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61: Number Ones

 

00:00:00   the incomparable contest number 61 to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/0">TS</a>]

00:00:10   entry-level welcome to another edition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/10">TS</a>]

00:00:15   of the incomparable podcast i am jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/15">TS</a>]

00:00:18   Snell your host and i convened this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/18">TS</a>]

00:00:22   meeting of the comic book club joining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/22">TS</a>]

00:00:24   us today are two regular members of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/24">TS</a>]

00:00:27   comic book club introduce them now first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/27">TS</a>]

00:00:30   jason reitman hi Jason pay for the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/30">TS</a>]

00:00:34   of this this episode I'm going to go as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/34">TS</a>]

00:00:36   the number-one Jason all right you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/36">TS</a>]

00:00:39   be the good Jason I'll be I'll be I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/39">TS</a>]

00:00:42   be even the letter A Jason how about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/42">TS</a>]

00:00:44   that area go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/44">TS</a>]

00:00:45   also joining us is Lisa Schmeisser hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/45">TS</a>]

00:00:48   Lisa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/48">TS</a>]

00:00:49   I gotta Jason Jason either Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/49">TS</a>]

00:00:52   adjacent either you know you're not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/52">TS</a>]

00:00:55   are coming to us live from your home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/55">TS</a>]

00:00:57   well yeah and we have two other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/57">TS</a>]

00:01:01   will say two depending on how much one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/61">TS</a>]

00:01:03   of them wants to talk one-and-a-half to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/63">TS</a>]

00:01:05   coming this is a big link-up between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/65">TS</a>]

00:01:08   uncomfortable and the great powers at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/68">TS</a>]

00:01:10   five by five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/70">TS</a>]

00:01:12   dan Benjamin the genius behind the five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/72">TS</a>]

00:01:15   by five podcast network and a comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/75">TS</a>]

00:01:17   nerd joins us as well hi Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/77">TS</a>]

00:01:19   hey are you Jason I'm doing well how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/79">TS</a>]

00:01:22   does it feel to be on the other end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/82">TS</a>]

00:01:24   the microphone I've guy can say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/84">TS</a>]

00:01:26   about time I mean not if I must say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/86">TS</a>]

00:01:29   shame on you for not inviting me sooner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/89">TS</a>]

00:01:31   but I'm glad to be here it's a thrill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/91">TS</a>]

00:01:33   it's great to have you and his faith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/93">TS</a>]

00:01:36   korpi there as well she is in there he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/96">TS</a>]

00:01:39   hanging out with income we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/99">TS</a>]

00:01:40   reading comic book you're reading comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/100">TS</a>]

00:01:42   that's what they do here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/102">TS</a>]

00:01:43   faith what what what is your title what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/103">TS</a>]

00:01:45   do you call yourself at five by five and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/105">TS</a>]

00:01:48   the producer you are the producer but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/108">TS</a>]

00:01:50   the Lord no Stan needs one so I sure do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/110">TS</a>]

00:01:53   I no restriction has no faith knows so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/113">TS</a>]

00:01:57   our topic today on the comic book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/117">TS</a>]

00:01:59   appropriate because recently in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/119">TS</a>]

00:02:03   five or six weeks DC Comics relaunched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/123">TS</a>]

00:02:07   its entire comic book line and what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/127">TS</a>]

00:02:10   did was they reset every issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/130">TS</a>]

00:02:13   you number one and released a whole set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/133">TS</a>]

00:02:15   of number-one so our topic today is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/135">TS</a>]

00:02:18   just the DC relaunch although I imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/138">TS</a>]

00:02:20   we might spend a lot of time on that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/140">TS</a>]

00:02:22   also the concept of a comic book number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/142">TS</a>]

00:02:25   one in general because we can talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/145">TS</a>]

00:02:27   maybe are our favorites if we have them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/147">TS</a>]

00:02:30   or even whether number ones are any good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/150">TS</a>]

00:02:32   which I i I'm showing my hand a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/152">TS</a>]

00:02:34   bit there so 02 to get started I i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/154">TS</a>]

00:02:39   want to talk about DC as we record this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/159">TS</a>]

00:02:42   they just released a bunch of number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/162">TS</a>]

00:02:44   two's this is not about number two is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/164">TS</a>]

00:02:47   this is about number one so I I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/167">TS</a>]

00:02:51   go around the virtual table and ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/171">TS</a>]

00:02:52   people for their thoughts about if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/172">TS</a>]

00:02:54   they've got a particular DC relaunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/174">TS</a>]

00:02:58   number one issue that they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/178">TS</a>]

00:02:59   highlight as as being particularly good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/179">TS</a>]

00:03:03   particularly enjoyable and I thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/183">TS</a>]

00:03:05   would start with mr. Brightman yes i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/185">TS</a>]

00:03:09   read all 52 number ones some of the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/189">TS</a>]

00:03:13   titles and characters i was familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/193">TS</a>]

00:03:14   with others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/194">TS</a>]

00:03:15   I never read or seen before and some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/195">TS</a>]

00:03:19   them were i would say huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/199">TS</a>]

00:03:22   disappointments and others intrigue me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/202">TS</a>]

00:03:24   enough that i would pick up number two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/204">TS</a>]

00:03:26   so I think ones that spring to mind that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/206">TS</a>]

00:03:30   were kind of intriguing were it once I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/210">TS</a>]

00:03:35   never would've expected like suicide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/215">TS</a>]

00:03:37   squad or batwing and once I expected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/217">TS</a>]

00:03:42   like and did were like action comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/222">TS</a>]

00:03:44   number one by Grant Morrison and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/224">TS</a>]

00:03:48   yeah in then omak number 10 mac mock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/228">TS</a>]

00:03:52   where and how you pronounce it the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/232">TS</a>]

00:03:54   man army corps yes the one man army [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/234">TS</a>]

00:03:56   corps was good but it is almost it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/236">TS</a>]

00:04:00   structurally the exact same as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/240">TS</a>]

00:04:01   original Kirby kind of number one as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/241">TS</a>]

00:04:04   well so that was more enjoyable in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/244">TS</a>]

00:04:06   pastiche kind of way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/246">TS</a>]

00:04:08   so yeah there's a there's quite a few i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/248">TS</a>]

00:04:10   would say a good ten or eleven that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/250">TS</a>]

00:04:12   would intrigue me enough to go on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/252">TS</a>]

00:04:13   then the majority made all the mistakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/253">TS</a>]

00:04:16   that a lot of number-one issues make in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/256">TS</a>]

00:04:20   in not having enough of a hook to kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/260">TS</a>]

00:04:22   of get you to get the next issue or care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/262">TS</a>]

00:04:24   enough about the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/264">TS</a>]

00:04:26   your story or plot or whatever to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/266">TS</a>]

00:04:29   onto a second issue because we really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/269">TS</a>]

00:04:31   face it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/271">TS</a>]

00:04:31   number ones are really really hard they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/271">TS</a>]

00:04:33   have a lot to do i think we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/273">TS</a>]

00:04:35   talk about that but first i want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/275">TS</a>]

00:04:36   around so Lisa do you have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/276">TS</a>]

00:04:37   particular favorites from the DC number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/277">TS</a>]

00:04:39   ones did you did you read some of the DC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/279">TS</a>]

00:04:41   number ones i have to show my hand here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/281">TS</a>]

00:04:44   and admit the only 1i check that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/284">TS</a>]

00:04:45   birds of prey because that was the windy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/285">TS</a>]

00:04:47   series i enjoyed regularly and i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/287">TS</a>]

00:04:50   curious to see how it would fare when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/290">TS</a>]

00:04:52   Gail Simone wasn't writing it and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/292">TS</a>]

00:04:56   initial response was that it's beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/296">TS</a>]

00:04:59   the art by AZ ascites is that how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/299">TS</a>]

00:05:02   say his name anyway did the artist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/302">TS</a>]

00:05:06   gorgeous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/306">TS</a>]

00:05:06   it's a beautiful book to look at i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/306">TS</a>]

00:05:09   not sold on the writing yet but i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/309">TS</a>]

00:05:12   think i'm going to be able to pass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/312">TS</a>]

00:05:14   judgment on it until it finishes out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/314">TS</a>]

00:05:16   first story arc and we get it I get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/316">TS</a>]

00:05:18   real sense for how consistently this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/318">TS</a>]

00:05:20   plans on establishing and maintaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/320">TS</a>]

00:05:23   characterization and relationships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/323">TS</a>]

00:05:25   between the characters so I'm surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/325">TS</a>]

00:05:28   you didn't read that girl since that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/328">TS</a>]

00:05:31   the the Gail Simone which you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/331">TS</a>]

00:05:34   opposed to what they did or oh I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/334">TS</a>]

00:05:38   very strong feelings about oracle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/338">TS</a>]

00:05:40   i'm going to stay away from that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/340">TS</a>]

00:05:43   until i can look at it with a less me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/343">TS</a>]

00:05:46   jerk reflexive angry mindset going into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/346">TS</a>]

00:05:50   it so it might be awhile before i take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/350">TS</a>]

00:05:52   look at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/352">TS</a>]

00:05:52   alright I sense that there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/352">TS</a>]

00:05:55   unresolved issues there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/355">TS</a>]

00:05:57   yeah yeah Tian Yu I know have devoured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/357">TS</a>]

00:06:02   these number ones you know you have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/362">TS</a>]

00:06:04   favorite yeah yeah yeah and I'm glad you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/364">TS</a>]

00:06:07   know trying to force me to just pick you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/367">TS</a>]

00:06:09   know pick one favorite because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/369">TS</a>]

00:06:11   would that would nearly kill me I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/371">TS</a>]

00:06:12   trying to be odd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/372">TS</a>]

00:06:14   yeah i mean if I honestly if I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/374">TS</a>]

00:06:16   pick if I had to pick one favorite I it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/376">TS</a>]

00:06:19   it it be a detective comics number one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/379">TS</a>]

00:06:22   mean I've always loved detective comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/382">TS</a>]

00:06:24   vol will always always love Batman so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/384">TS</a>]

00:06:27   and and I mean art in the work that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/387">TS</a>]

00:06:29   Daniels doing in there Tony Daniel is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/389">TS</a>]

00:06:32   just i mean that that in my mind that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/392">TS</a>]

00:06:35   sort of at least the first one which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/395">TS</a>]

00:06:36   yeah it is a dark story line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/396">TS</a>]

00:06:38   but I mean that just as laying down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/398">TS</a>]

00:06:40   gauntlet for you know okay kids pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/400">TS</a>]

00:06:42   attention this is this is how you do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/402">TS</a>]

00:06:43   number one and this is how you take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/403">TS</a>]

00:06:44   character that people have known for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/404">TS</a>]

00:06:47   forever and tell a story about him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/407">TS</a>]

00:06:51   that's new and intriguing and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/411">TS</a>]

00:06:53   know poses a lot of questions and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/413">TS</a>]

00:06:55   treats it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/415">TS</a>]

00:06:56   yes is a character everybody knows but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/416">TS</a>]

00:06:57   here's something new or here's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59   different take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/419">TS</a>]

00:07:00   and doing that without losing what makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/420">TS</a>]

00:07:03   Batman and detective comics together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/423">TS</a>]

00:07:05   great i think i think that's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/425">TS</a>]

00:07:08   winner for me but even just for getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/428">TS</a>]

00:07:10   this story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/430">TS</a>]

00:07:11   I'm cash looking at what like Williams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/431">TS</a>]

00:07:14   and black man is doing for batwoman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/434">TS</a>]

00:07:15   artwork i just look at that is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/435">TS</a>]

00:07:17   artwork take take the words out and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/437">TS</a>]

00:07:20   look at that as artwork it's it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/440">TS</a>]

00:07:22   some of the best artwork that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/442">TS</a>]

00:07:23   available in print today are you saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/443">TS</a>]

00:07:24   we need to take the words out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26   not at all I'm just saying looking at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/446">TS</a>]

00:07:28   as a war as a just a an illustrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/448">TS</a>]

00:07:31   work of art out but no I love the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/451">TS</a>]

00:07:33   i think i think the stories in a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/453">TS</a>]

00:07:35   these are great i think i think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/455">TS</a>]

00:07:37   been some disappointments to but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/457">TS</a>]

00:07:38   actually just picked up i missed getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/458">TS</a>]

00:07:40   out the first issue of swamp thing when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/460">TS</a>]

00:07:43   it first came out and I've got a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/463">TS</a>]

00:07:45   printing of it here that I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/465">TS</a>]

00:07:47   starting to read before before today and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/467">TS</a>]

00:07:50   actually somebody is sending it sending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/470">TS</a>]

00:07:52   an original you know like a first print [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/472">TS</a>]

00:07:54   to me the just being nice but again the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/474">TS</a>]

00:07:58   story and that looks looks great and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/478">TS</a>]

00:08:00   swamp thing has been so abused over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/480">TS</a>]

00:08:02   years I have you know I hope that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/482">TS</a>]

00:08:04   sleeper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/484">TS</a>]

00:08:05   that's my underdog alright one thing if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/485">TS</a>]

00:08:08   I can jump back in for a moment I might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/488">TS</a>]

00:08:09   actually go back and take a look for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/489">TS</a>]

00:08:11   authority first storm watches first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/491">TS</a>]

00:08:13   issue just because I've been following [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/493">TS</a>]

00:08:14   that series on and off since it came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/494">TS</a>]

00:08:16   and I'm kind of curious to see how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/496">TS</a>]

00:08:17   they're going to integrate into the DC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/497">TS</a>]

00:08:19   Universe this is hilarious because as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/499">TS</a>]

00:08:21   you guys can see jason reitman face but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/501">TS</a>]

00:08:23   I can and he is grimace repeatedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/503">TS</a>]

00:08:25   grimace at the DJ at that convention of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/505">TS</a>]

00:08:28   Detective Comics and again he tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/508">TS</a>]

00:08:29   wave you off Lisa from storm watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/509">TS</a>]

00:08:32   don't do it i would love to hear your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/512">TS</a>]

00:08:34   life skate that well this is Jorge's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/514">TS</a>]

00:08:35   stormwater will detective to me just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/515">TS</a>]

00:08:38   read a little bit more like they went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/518">TS</a>]

00:08:41   really dark and stuff which is I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/521">TS</a>]

00:08:45   find it but it's it's sort of it read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/525">TS</a>]

00:08:48   little bit more like angry baby are it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/528">TS</a>]

00:08:51   is it's not hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/531">TS</a>]

00:08:52   to go really dark with Batman and it'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/532">TS</a>]

00:08:54   be like all this energy with it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/534">TS</a>]

00:08:57   was sort of like naked violent Joker and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/537">TS</a>]

00:09:00   people dying and lots of blood and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/540">TS</a>]

00:09:02   didn't think that's what the comics all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/542">TS</a>]

00:09:05   about man that's what it said they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/545">TS</a>]

00:09:06   taking it they're taking it to all a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/546">TS</a>]

00:09:09   whole nother level it's it's it's a lie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/549">TS</a>]

00:09:11   i think it's a totally valid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/551">TS</a>]

00:09:12   interpretation but to me it seemed so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/552">TS</a>]

00:09:16   easy as a writer to do that and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/556">TS</a>]

00:09:19   nothing complicated nothing surprising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/559">TS</a>]

00:09:21   nothing hard nothing interesting about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/561">TS</a>]

00:09:23   it for me there they may have gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/563">TS</a>]

00:09:25   further with that take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/565">TS</a>]

00:09:26   but it wasn't new or different or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/566">TS</a>]

00:09:29   interesting enough to interest me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/569">TS</a>]

00:09:31   you kind of story while which one do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/571">TS</a>]

00:09:34   which one do you like the for me for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/574">TS</a>]

00:09:39   for they can sit in the first issue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/579">TS</a>]

00:09:41   what's exciting about first issues and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/581">TS</a>]

00:09:44   for me it's always you know you need you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/584">TS</a>]

00:09:46   have to establish the world the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/586">TS</a>]

00:09:47   characters the throw in a primary kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/587">TS</a>]

00:09:50   of motivation thing sort of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/590">TS</a>]

00:09:53   here's the world up something happens it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55   has to be sort of interesting enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/595">TS</a>]

00:09:56   then pick up the next issue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/596">TS</a>]

00:09:58   hopefully be a kind of a complete story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/598">TS</a>]

00:09:59   by itself and i would actually point to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/599">TS</a>]

00:10:01   as my favorite example of this when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/601">TS</a>]

00:10:06   Martin when peter milligan and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/606">TS</a>]

00:10:08   cauldron took over x-force before it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/608">TS</a>]

00:10:11   named ecstatic it it was x-force 116 but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/611">TS</a>]

00:10:16   it was the first issue because it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/616">TS</a>]

00:10:17   completely new team of characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/617">TS</a>]

00:10:18   completely different direction complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/618">TS</a>]

00:10:20   break from the past and they introduced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/620">TS</a>]

00:10:22   all of these characters through the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/622">TS</a>]

00:10:25   story it was kind of interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/625">TS</a>]

00:10:26   introduce all these characters i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/626">TS</a>]

00:10:28   like seven of them and by the last page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/628">TS</a>]

00:10:31   all but one was all but two were dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/631">TS</a>]

00:10:33   including the main character the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/633">TS</a>]

00:10:36   story focused on and two of the side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/636">TS</a>]

00:10:39   kind of characters were left alive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/639">TS</a>]

00:10:40   you're just like what it in shock shock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/640">TS</a>]

00:10:45   number one right where you're not seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/645">TS</a>]

00:10:47   the story you think you are right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/647">TS</a>]

00:10:50   I'd certainly picked up the second issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/650">TS</a>]

00:10:52   and kept going it was really really well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/652">TS</a>]

00:10:55   done now i want to say i like detective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/655">TS</a>]

00:10:59   comics I didn't love it and I i see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/659">TS</a>]

00:11:01   Jason's point there but I also see Dan's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/661">TS</a>]

00:11:03   point I like better than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/663">TS</a>]

00:11:05   man number one which i also read Batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/665">TS</a>]

00:11:08   number one to me suffers from a disease [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/668">TS</a>]

00:11:10   that I thought that DC was getting rid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/670">TS</a>]

00:11:12   of which they failed to get rid of which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14   is the kind of continuity reboot stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/674">TS</a>]

00:11:18   because i really expected them to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/678">TS</a>]

00:11:20   kind of a back to a kind of cop classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/680">TS</a>]

00:11:22   Batman story and instead in Batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/682">TS</a>]

00:11:25   number one you get you know you get his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/685">TS</a>]

00:11:27   son is Robin and their former Robbins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/687">TS</a>]

00:11:30   running around under new identities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/690">TS</a>]

00:11:31   which i know is part of the continuity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/691">TS</a>]

00:11:33   but to me I felt like that was a that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/693">TS</a>]

00:11:36   was a mistake that they that they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/696">TS</a>]

00:11:38   trying to replicate parts of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/698">TS</a>]

00:11:40   universe that they want to keep on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/700">TS</a>]

00:11:42   they want to keep alive when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/702">TS</a>]

00:11:44   probably would have been better off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/704">TS</a>]

00:11:45   going back to basics detective comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/705">TS</a>]

00:11:47   because there is none of that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/707">TS</a>]

00:11:48   Wayne family interplay in fact it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/708">TS</a>]

00:11:51   essentially I think Bruce Wayne is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/711">TS</a>]

00:11:53   uncounseled for one panel it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/713">TS</a>]

00:11:56   about Batman and I like the twist where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/716">TS</a>]

00:11:59   there's this question of is the Joker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/719">TS</a>]

00:12:01   the victim or the killer or a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/721">TS</a>]

00:12:03   of both that I that I really like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/723">TS</a>]

00:12:05   my favorite but i'll defend it a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/725">TS</a>]

00:12:07   bit because I I it it gave me more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/727">TS</a>]

00:12:11   what I expected from a kind of history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/731">TS</a>]

00:12:14   free Batman story then Batman number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/734">TS</a>]

00:12:18   did what i felt weighed down by the DC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/738">TS</a>]

00:12:19   continuity I don't wanna get too far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/739">TS</a>]

00:12:21   into this before asking faith what she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/741">TS</a>]

00:12:23   liked from the the the number ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/743">TS</a>]

00:12:25   we've seen in the last month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/745">TS</a>]

00:12:27   okay well I have to admit that I'm new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/747">TS</a>]

00:12:30   DC comics so I do I've sort of been ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/750">TS</a>]

00:12:34   cool cool because there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/754">TS</a>]

00:12:36   converts out there really i was always a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/756">TS</a>]

00:12:38   Marvel die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/758">TS</a>]

00:12:39   I mean I read Batman but that was it yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/759">TS</a>]

00:12:41   I i'm using this is my jumping off point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/761">TS</a>]

00:12:43   right that i am free of the continuity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/763">TS</a>]

00:12:45   because i don't understand it and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/765">TS</a>]

00:12:46   want to see and that's why I reacted so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/766">TS</a>]

00:12:49   badly to Batman number one I think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/769">TS</a>]

00:12:51   like I I knew that they had done stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/771">TS</a>]

00:12:53   like this and there are many robins and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/773">TS</a>]

00:12:54   his son is around but you know I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/774">TS</a>]

00:12:57   know I that's notthat doesn't fit with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/777">TS</a>]

00:12:59   my kind of idealized view of Batman as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/779">TS</a>]

00:13:01   jumping-off point so go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/781">TS</a>]

00:13:03   oh no so the first one I read was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/783">TS</a>]

00:13:06   the Justice League One which i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/786">TS</a>]

00:13:08   like but I was a little overwhelmed why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/788">TS</a>]

00:13:10   I guess by the sheer number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/790">TS</a>]

00:13:12   characters in it and then I'm kept it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/792">TS</a>]

00:13:16   mean there weren't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/796">TS</a>]

00:13:17   wasn't the whole justice league right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/797">TS</a>]

00:13:18   was essentially Batman with green [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/798">TS</a>]

00:13:20   lantern and then early age of Superman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/800">TS</a>]

00:13:23   so it was they were trying to keep it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/803">TS</a>]

00:13:24   simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/804">TS</a>]

00:13:25   certainly yeah there they were trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/805">TS</a>]

00:13:28   that one yeah yeah other than that Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/808">TS</a>]

00:13:31   has sort of been like oh here read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/811">TS</a>]

00:13:33   one read this one read this one so i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/813">TS</a>]

00:13:36   getting a little which was the one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/816">TS</a>]

00:13:37   you were really excited about Dan swamp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/817">TS</a>]

00:13:39   swamp thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/819">TS</a>]

00:13:40   no I thought you said Aquaman oh yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42   think aqua thanks for bringing that up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/822">TS</a>]

00:13:44   Aquaman's great that's great i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/824">TS</a>]

00:13:47   read more Aquaman never picked up a copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/827">TS</a>]

00:13:49   Aquaman my life i want to see number two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/829">TS</a>]

00:13:51   I'd agree with that too Aquaman was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/831">TS</a>]

00:13:53   really good and well I want to finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/833">TS</a>]

00:13:55   won him over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/835">TS</a>]

00:13:55   yeah I i totally agree with that Aquaman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/835">TS</a>]

00:13:58   number one was really good and swamp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/838">TS</a>]

00:13:59   thing everyone was surprisingly good as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/839">TS</a>]

00:14:01   a as well so I'm on board with dan now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/841">TS</a>]

00:14:06   oh good now you know you safe you're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/846">TS</a>]

00:14:08   board with that fit so faith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/848">TS</a>]

00:14:10   um one animal man oh I did read Animal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/850">TS</a>]

00:14:14   Man um we will only breed a state which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/854">TS</a>]

00:14:17   a tradition one either Jason Jason's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/857">TS</a>]

00:14:22   actually I liked animal man I i liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24   the ending of animal man i had i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26   read a review of it before reading it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/866">TS</a>]

00:14:29   I knew what the ending was but I I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/869">TS</a>]

00:14:32   still thought it was kind of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/872">TS</a>]

00:14:32   impactful interesting ending that we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/872">TS</a>]

00:14:35   me intrigued enough to read the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/875">TS</a>]

00:14:37   issue i never even heard animal man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/877">TS</a>]

00:14:40   everybody's I've got I've got one into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/880">TS</a>]

00:14:41   sitting on the desk I haven't written in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/881">TS</a>]

00:14:43   my to-read pile i would go back and look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/883">TS</a>]

00:14:45   for the grant morrison run on animal man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/885">TS</a>]

00:14:47   because that was to me the definitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/887">TS</a>]

00:14:49   run on the character and I'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/889">TS</a>]

00:14:51   interested to see what they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/891">TS</a>]

00:14:51   with it now and they're doing a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/891">TS</a>]

00:14:54   bit of the grand more because grant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/894">TS</a>]

00:14:56   morrison made it the the gun very meta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/896">TS</a>]

00:14:59   story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/899">TS</a>]

00:15:00   yeah like in Grant Morrison's rent run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/900">TS</a>]

00:15:02   the grant morrison as the author was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/902">TS</a>]

00:15:04   talking to animals animal man in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/904">TS</a>]

00:15:07   story yeah by the end of it was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/907">TS</a>]

00:15:08   very hey why are you doing this to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/908">TS</a>]

00:15:11   yeah and this has some of that vibe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/911">TS</a>]

00:15:12   though it doesn't go in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/912">TS</a>]

00:15:14   direction so it still feels kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/914">TS</a>]

00:15:15   refreshing and unique [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/915">TS</a>]

00:15:17   oh yeah I so the ones that i looked at I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/917">TS</a>]

00:15:22   like i did kinda like the Justice League [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/922">TS</a>]

00:15:25   two two faiths point as a jumping-off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/925">TS</a>]

00:15:28   point i like that they were kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/928">TS</a>]

00:15:30   restrained think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/930">TS</a>]

00:15:31   would have just had it be two pages on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/931">TS</a>]

00:15:33   each member or something instead it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/933">TS</a>]

00:15:34   really Batman who is I think maybe their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/934">TS</a>]

00:15:37   best character and he got time and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/937">TS</a>]

00:15:39   they bring green lantern and he's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/939">TS</a>]

00:15:41   some ways comic relief because he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/941">TS</a>]

00:15:42   portrayed as being a big lummox which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/942">TS</a>]

00:15:45   wich Green Lantern is it it is al Jordan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/945">TS</a>]

00:15:49   it's held your house or okay yeah he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/949">TS</a>]

00:15:53   but he's a lummox and Batman outsmart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/953">TS</a>]

00:15:55   him and takes his ring in fact which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/955">TS</a>]

00:15:57   hilarious yeah yeah and Superman is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/957">TS</a>]

00:15:59   mysterious alien force which I like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/959">TS</a>]

00:16:01   mystery and Superman I thought that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/961">TS</a>]

00:16:02   cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/962">TS</a>]

00:16:03   I don't handle easily he says I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/963">TS</a>]

00:16:05   action comics I thought action comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/965">TS</a>]

00:16:08   number one was really good and I'm not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/968">TS</a>]

00:16:09   Superman fan and you know i love i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/969">TS</a>]

00:16:13   Superman being like a guy who has was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/973">TS</a>]

00:16:16   character and he has he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/976">TS</a>]

00:16:17   vulnerabilities and doesn't really know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/977">TS</a>]

00:16:20   what he's doing and is figuring it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/980">TS</a>]

00:16:22   that's just so much more compelling I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/982">TS</a>]

00:16:26   and the other ones I like that girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/986">TS</a>]

00:16:28   which witchly lisa is you know Gail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/988">TS</a>]

00:16:30   Simone to do a good job you i know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/990">TS</a>]

00:16:31   may be offended that she's not oracle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/991">TS</a>]

00:16:33   anymore although that seems to have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/993">TS</a>]

00:16:35   integrated someone into the storyline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/995">TS</a>]

00:16:36   because it's a mystery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/996">TS</a>]

00:16:37   she was paralyzed and now isn't which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/997">TS</a>]

00:16:39   kind of interesting and I want to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/999">TS</a>]

00:16:41   a little bit of a claim for a blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:44   beetle only because i like the Blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:47   Beetle general I actually have read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49   Blue Beetle comment before but what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:51   really like about the Blue Beetle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:52   and this I think brings us to another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:54   question about number one is blue beetle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:56   felt like a number one to me it felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:58   like a fresh origin and new direction in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:02   a way that some of the established [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:04   comics felt like they were number ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:06   with new continuity but it was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:08   the old continuity kind of kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:09   whitewashed and they didn't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:11   with Blue Beetle they did do a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:13   origin that they changed his origin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:15   because originally it was part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:16   final crisis or one of the crate the not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:19   final the one before final crisis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:21   semifinal yeah which apparently they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:23   wiped out crisis from all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:26   continuity but I so I like those you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28   know I like the I like the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:30   that blue beetle was fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:34   self-contained mean there's a story arc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:35   there but really by the end of the issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:37   you-know-who Jaime Reyes is and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:39   his friends and you know he lives in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:41   texas and you know that he got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:43   this you know power accidentally he gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:46   this power accidentally from this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:48   of crashed you know space spaceship or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:51   remnants of a space warrior and and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:54   you're off for the next adventure which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:56   you know one of the problems I had with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:58   some of these and I think modern comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:01   being so decompressed is that you end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:05   with you know you don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:08   so here it is who had the over-under on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:09   micronauts at a at 20 minutes my micros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:15   number one might want to my new favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:17   comics of all time the entire premises [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:19   set they have battles and they leave the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:21   planet never to return in 22 pages and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:25   not one of the DC Comics but uh ultimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:28   spider-man number one came out in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:30   last month too and that kids not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:33   to put on the spider-man costume until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:35   like issue 5 it's not even because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:38   so decompressed and there was a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:39   that in the DC stuff too and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:40   little frustrating because I shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:43   tell me what you think shouldn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:45   number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:47   tell tell you enough to get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:49   intrigued and I think that sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:50   they they they fail because they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:54   too short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:54   you're my criteria for a good number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:56   is it has to set up the premise so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:59   if someone says oh what are you reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:00   about you can say oh I'm reading about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:01   an alien has put on the K or oh I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:04   reading about this guy whose parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:05   were killed and now he solves crimes or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:07   what have you and they also need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:10   introduce the primary character and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:12   should make you want to read ahead those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:16   those are my big baseline criteria for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:18   any number one issue didn't into in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:21   preparation for this i went back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:22   reread fantastic for number one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:24   amazing spider-man number one and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:27   amazing fantasy 15 i think it was which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:29   is the original the introduction of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:31   spider-man or that was the whole you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:34   find out you meet Peter Parker he become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:36   spider-man his uncle dies with great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:38   power comes great responsibility it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:40   16 pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:41   yeah and it was complete story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:44   you're like I like this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:46   I want to learn more about him and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:48   more of his adventures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:49   yeah and I don't know the DC most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:52   DC issues lived up to that in a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:55   complete a lot of them didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:57   complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:57   stories and a lot of them didn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1197">TS</a>]

00:20:00   necessarily set up a premise for a story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:02   really well because you can't get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:04   that decompress way you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:05   Jason they are you get a lot of it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:08   oh the first five issues or six issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:10   here will be a complete story and I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:12   like the opening not even a complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:15   opening chapter of this story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:17   see this is why I like waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:19   trades at this point is because this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:20   that's this way I don't have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:22   frustrated by the incremental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:23   storytelling pace i can just pick up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:25   complete Ark and and have done with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:28   dan faith what do you guys think as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:31   as your criteria for a good yeah what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:33   makes the number 144 you and did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:35   feel like there was enough in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:37   number one's for you to keep reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:40   that's a great question there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:42   handful of them that maybe I mean on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:45   one hand you want you want to identify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:47   the character the main character when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:49   identify the setting you want to bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:51   people in that's the real thing is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:52   mean honestly if you look at this from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:55   the story standpoint you can go over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:57   look what they're doing with ultimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:58   spider-man you can say they're building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:00   a story i got the first two issues that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:01   thing and you know they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:04   building the character they're spending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:05   time building the character setting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:06   scene you get the daddy got the uncle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:08   you know I mean and he's got this sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:10   of power and you get the friend who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:12   tells him how cool it is that he's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:13   power and he's working out that he has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:15   power whether it's really i mean on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:16   divide spider-powers I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:18   immediately start using mine i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:20   don't know why comic book characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:23   always have a problem when they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:24   powers especially when the powers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:26   you can kind of get under control pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:28   quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:29   you know I would like EW I wouldn't mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:32   having the power to take the power given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:34   the powers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:35   I'll try I'll try some powers I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:37   like them I like the bestest Deacon do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:40   you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:40   decompression i actually liked that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:41   story but as a number one you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:44   nothing really happens and then they put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:45   a picture of him in a spider-man costume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:47   on the cover and it's like being on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:48   where is it lets see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:50   yeah how does he get to that point how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:51   many ever get this rate it'll take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:53   1500 issues before you don't figures out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:56   how to make a web and they you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:58   I I think it's just changed too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:00   racket so much for a common cause you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:02   know what I'm saying I think number ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04   really have to be it's it's a first date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:06   you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:08   against like that you got a-you got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:10   little bit of romance a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:12   intrigue a little bit of mystery you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:14   have to get to that second date with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:15   person and can you go to can you go too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:17   far in the first comic book date you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:20   the possible going how you how do you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:21   too far your I think that's what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:23   didn't like about about the detective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:25   comics it went too far free but it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:27   that just went too far in a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:29   genre that I find like you date a girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:32   and meet you know she seems nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:34   then you know you find out what she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:36   wears combat boots and the the my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:39   probably the detective comics was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:41   about like you know when bad writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:43   that using gore to cover bad writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:45   it's just like using Nazis as the bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:47   guy it's not hard you put something not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49   uniformly up bad guy and and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51   lazy writing speaking of combat boots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:53   this met this a metaphor that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:55   using this frightening me by the way his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:57   first dating I actually I liked it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:59   first and now it's getting right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:00   kind of gone it's uncomfortable and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:02   isn't know what to your point about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:05   amazing fantasy 15 or spider-man number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:08   one or something like that is in the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:10   days you could tell a complete story in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:12   and now you know people they don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:15   that right and and so that I guess the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:17   question is you either start off a 5x5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:19   issue story arc in order to force them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:22   to come back through plot right instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:23   of it being I want to know more about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25   these characters that may still be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27   too but all of these number ones from DC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:29   that i read it was really a cliffhanger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31   that would give you mystery about where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:33   the plot was going to go next and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:35   was the thing that would get you back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:36   not the not the characters necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:40   because you could have done it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:42   number one that was a standalone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:44   then people would have to judge it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:46   entirely based on whether they wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:47   come back and enjoy another story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:49   instead of find out what happened which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:51   is a big difference I think again we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:53   back to where back to Aquaman because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:55   Aquaman sets the scene tells the heck of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:58   a lot about the character he says almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1438">TS</a>]

00:23:59   nothing in the whole book says almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:02   nothing but like that's the 1i keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:04   coming back and thinking about because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:06   there was a sense of fun there's a sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:07   of of awareness to it and he's barely do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:11   i think that the kana couple guys in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:13   truck like he what he did wasn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:15   that big of a deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:16   relatively speaking didn't save the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:17   world but yet that's the one I'm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:20   kind of interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:21   and isn't it interesting that in a genre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:25   that's it's all about character all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:28   books were the most of the books focused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:30   on plot right and we were not that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:35   kind of bad writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:37   well I mean it's it may be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:39   about the intrusion of of commerce on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:41   the on the writing to that they feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:44   like they need to do that although i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:46   think that's great i didn't read Aquaman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:48   I feel like that girl actually did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:50   little bit of that too where there is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:53   ongoing plot that is supposed to be kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:55   of interesting and mysterious and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:58   got some character background but at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1498">TS</a>]

00:24:59   same time I felt like most of the pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:01   of Batgirl were spent introducing us to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:05   this character and she's got this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07   know she's kind of scarred because she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:09   had something happened to her and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:11   was unable to walk for some period of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:13   time and she's only now kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:15   reentering the world and we're kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:16   with her as she reenters and puts on her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:19   costume for the first time since the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:21   accident and we you know and we meet her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:23   dad who's the commissioner and all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:25   things and I like that because it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:29   way that I didn't like some of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:31   books even though I I i like them they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:34   were carrying me along with the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:36   whereas with that girl I felt much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:38   connected and that is right it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:40   just good writing but it's also a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:41   choice i think 22 time into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:44   character because you know good writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:46   and a good character will get me to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:49   a number two more than a kind of insane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:51   cliffhanger will because if I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:53   really enjoy the point up to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:55   cliffhanger i'm not sure i would buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:56   number to any of you read batwing now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1556">TS</a>]

00:26:03   alright so no comments on all answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:06   once the premise of Pat wing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:08   apparently is when Batman and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:10   previous continuity was going around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:12   world and creating other little Batman's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:14   everywhere i'm in the Batman Inc grant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:17   morrison storyline is batwing was one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19   those characters and he is in Africa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21   forget which country in africa methods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:25   the Congo but he's a the African Batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:28   and interestingly in the story i haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:32   read anything about him previously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:34   they didn't really focus on him he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36   kind of narrating stories from his point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:38   of view but you really get introduced to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:39   this other cop character and it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:43   about the police forces corrupt in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:45   African nation and he's wondering about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:47   this this woman and whether she's on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:50   side of angels or corrupt and then some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:52   stuff happens you do you get introduced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:54   to his sort of guy friday character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:57   Batman makes a quick appearance but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1617">TS</a>]

00:27:01   was almost as if the if as if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:02   writers new people new this character so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04   they focused on other characters to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:06   bring new audience in you sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08   introduced to the world through his eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:11   and I didn't really get to learn about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13   him but I didn't care because these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:14   other characters were kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:15   interesting and it was a softer story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:20   and as far as things happening but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22   were enough character interesting stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:26   no i don't know how i feel about picking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:27   up a book called batwing it's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:31   best title of the world on the wings of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:33   color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:37   yeah it was a good story Lisa well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:43   haven't so Lisa you we haven't talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:45   about red hood and the outlaws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:48   yeah and we also haven't talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:52   what was the what was the other one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:54   got them in trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:55   Catwoman will be that woman yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:58   bought both of those mostly just to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:00   the train wreck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:01   oh it's really don't reward it uh-huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:05   you know I had died I had a podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:07   coming up I felt like I needed to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:08   them in order to understand how bad they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:11   were but you know for those who don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:12   know this is you know Richard me out was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:16   robbed it reboots Starfire from the Teen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:20   Titans and and it's Robin who's now or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:22   no it's one of the Robins it's jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:24   todd right switch it goes back to Batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:26   continuity being very confusing and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:28   supposedly clean slate and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:31   cross controversy about it because in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33   she's basically I candy and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:37   she's got big boobs and she's posing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:39   supposedly talking to to the men in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:42   frame but she's actually just posing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:43   the people looking at the frame and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:47   considers all men interchangeable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:49   just wants to have sex with them which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:51   is uh yeah you know sort of got them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:53   singled out as being perhaps not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:56   clean slate in terms of finding a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:59   audience that that people might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:02   expected and it's not even that shocking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:04   an idea or a character conceit it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:07   actually been really played out because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:09   back before they did the reboot Gail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:13   Simone's brown on secret six she had two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:15   characters one was knock out who was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:18   fellow female fury she and big particles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:21   coming from apocalypse and knockout was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:24   partnered with some vandal savages are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:27   scandal savage you know I say that out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:30   loud just sounds so dump anyway the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:32   point is is that knockout at this very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:34   very cavalier attitude towards sex and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:37   she was like Bay Street her whole mo was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39   if i have an edge it's going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:41   scratched and i'm just going to grab the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:42   nearest bipedal hominid with a heartbeat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:46   and go for it and and so you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:49   is already kind of established and so to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:51   have poor sweet Starfire basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:54   acting like a human realdoll they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:56   human but inhuman real doll was was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:58   kind of really really if it's been done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:01   it's boring and I don't think it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:03   much to advance the character because at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:05   least in secret six it was seen as kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:07   of a character defining trait in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:09   sense that look you know I don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:11   what you think this is how I roll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:13   whereas in this case it was oh my gosh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:15   it's a gorgeous woman had a bikini and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:17   crazy eyes and who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:20   wow it yeah it felt elated in cheap as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:23   opposed to something that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:24   explain where characters mindset came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:26   from you do it was bad writing right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:28   mean there are better ways to tell that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:30   even if you want to make this alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:32   character who's got very broad ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:36   about sex and love will just show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:39   different people leaving room in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:40   background panels or something over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:43   there are ways to do it that that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:45   make her seem like a blow-up doll which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:47   is a which is you know what they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49   do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:50   it's just it's just lazy writing I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:52   it'sit's if you wanted to to titillate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:54   the you know thirteen-year-old boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:57   audience and comics are still written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:58   for you do that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:00   are they are they written for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:02   thirteen-year-old audience or are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:04   written for the 30-year old ovens I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:06   gonna ask the same question so what who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:08   what audiences this is this written for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:10   because none of this stuff that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:12   identifying as being a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:15   I mean this is none of this is is new I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:19   mean it maybe it's new for DC to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:21   but it's not need to the comics genre as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:23   a whole is my point but the way it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25   being written is they took away this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27   this characters agency where all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:30   sudden she's put on the defensive where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:31   she has to explain her sexual philosophy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:33   and it is judged in the framework in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:36   context of a bunch of male characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:38   and so the message that sends out is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:41   that however she feels or whatever role [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:43   she serves it's going to be wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:45   because it wasn't defined by the men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:46   that she interacts with whereas when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:49   Simone did this with knockout never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:50   female Furies it was it was pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:53   look this is this is what I do this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:55   how I roll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:56   I'm sorry if you don't like it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:58   realized it was a cultural clash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1918">TS</a>]

00:31:59   um I'm not changing but it's not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:01   to happen again with you and it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:03   comes down to running in perspective you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:06   know knock it was written as a woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:07   with sexual agency and star far was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09   written as a sex object there's a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:11   difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:12   it comes down to without you respect the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14   character enough to give them a mind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:15   their own as opposed to making them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:17   somebody else's prop I guess my am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:20   concerned about this is I mean there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:24   larger issue of sort of sexism and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:25   comics and and what our audience are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:28   pandering to and and and the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:30   the thing that I'm shocked me about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:33   is that we know we talked earlier about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35   and faith you mentioned this that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37   are new to DC comics and haven't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:40   these comics before when they're trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:43   to reach a new audience and got TV ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:48   actually saying you can go download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:50   these things on your iPad or you can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:52   to a comic book store whatever you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:53   get them they're trying to reach a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:55   audience and then to come out with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:58   tissue like like Catwoman number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:00   where she starts out naked and slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:02   put very slowly puts on her underwear as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:05   the issue goes along or red hoodie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:08   outlaws with with Starfire how she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10   treated I I you know I i look at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:13   thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:14   you are pandering to your traditional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:16   comics audience and you're and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:17   not going to turn off people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:21   your new audience I you know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23   know if favored and you've got any any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:26   thoughts about that i mean do you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:29   think they are trying to get like people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:31   who haven't picked up the comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33   ever because I i would question the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35   likelihood of that happening i'm new to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:37   DC comics but I'm not knit new to comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:40   so I mean I am very familiar with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:42   fact that typically report the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:45   proportions of a woman's body or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:47   accurately portrayed yeah yeah yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:55   mean i would question that like someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:57   who has never picked up a comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:59   would be going near these I do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:00   they are there they're trying to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:02   that audience that goes and sees you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:05   know the movies that are out now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:06   Batman movies that did the ten or eleven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:08   people who saw the green lantern film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:10   that they're trying to get those new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:11   those people who are familiar with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:14   characters may be familiar with comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:17   or at least comic strips from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:18   newspaper and trying to get them to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20   up something new so i would argue there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:22   they are trying to expand the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:23   they have to because the the comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:26   market is so small it may also be step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:30   one is get back the people who have read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:34   comics in the past and it's just too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:36   inconvenient but they've got an ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:38   right there or a computer that they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:40   just view them on the computer and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:43   and get them back it just you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:44   surprises me when they talk about going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:46   mainstream and DC you know has talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:48   about saying we want to be able to do TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:50   ads that they made the creative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:54   decisions i don't know i don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:55   anybody else read those issues but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:57   maybe I'm the only one who was enough of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2097">TS</a>]

00:34:59   a sucker to buy red hood me outlaws and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:01   by Catwoman number one just to see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:03   just to see how bad it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:05   yeah i bought cab Catwoman number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:08   before I heard there is any big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:10   about it and when you think you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:11   was here I was expect to be honest I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:14   expecting that from everyone I mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:17   that's that's kind of what Catwoman has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:18   always been about I mean I was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:21   expecting Catwoman to have sex with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:22   man on the last panel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:24   I mean like if you think back to the tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:27   burton area of Batman movies I I try not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:31   to think about that returns clubs about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:33   oh ok but I mean that was that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:35   Catwoman that was her back then I with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:38   Michelle Pfeiffer and enroll and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:42   thought it was great when it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:43   Michelle Pfeiffer and it wasn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:45   that different from what we're seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:47   now I mean you know sure you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:48   question the the last page and certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:50   had my question whether the TT plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:53   audience i think at least in the Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:55   side T plus is like 13 and up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:58   I don't you know I don't know if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:00   was the kind of comic that my parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:02   would have especially wanted me to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:05   when I was 13 years old i'm not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:07   that you know kids don't find ways to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:09   read things behind their parents back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:11   but i'm not saying i would buy this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:13   my thirteen-year-old but that said like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:16   again I I don't know if that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:18   audience that its intended for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:20   rating system is kind of arbitrary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:21   anyway but if you assume that this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:24   comic telling it and but maybe a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:26   adult story it's not for kids if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:28   take that off if you read this thing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:30   whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:31   I'm would it would it be as big of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:33   deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:34   you know i think you're right that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:36   it's somewhat expected for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38   characters i think it's it the way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40   was portrayed was interesting in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:41   almost that watchman way where was about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:45   the characters as in costume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:48   you know they don't take their costumes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:50   off as they start making Whoopie and pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:54   it had that it was that had nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:59   interesting kind of personality who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:02   the real character whose to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:03   secret-identity all that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:04   layering that watchman did so well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:08   other books have been applied it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:09   Batman and Catwoman and and the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:11   that they were hooking up that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:12   surprising it's been hinted at forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:14   it's just a bit more graphically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:16   portrayed a question the need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:18   graphically portray it no oh yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:22   know I don't think it i don't think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:23   don't think it was a it was a I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:28   groping for the right word here and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:30   don't think it did bad things for cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:32   your cat woman's character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:33   they're the same way up or start forgot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:35   it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:36   the art frankly looks like fanfiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:39   type art you know if it does i've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:43   a lot of people have said that a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:44   you that last panel is really not very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:46   well-executed I looked at it and thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48   well I know what did right across here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50   but we're where it was kind of like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52   took me a moment to kind of figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:54   where the body parts were going and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:56   know which one should be but it failed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:58   an artistic level 20 but i think there i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:02   think there was a way again there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:03   way you could have done it where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:05   didn't come off as the female character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:08   being put on display for an audience to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:11   judge her and user as a sex object in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:13   their own mind and and that's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:17   that bothers me in both cases is the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:19   that the female characters are framed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:21   and depicted on the page there they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:25   not really being presented as characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:27   with with agency and motivation and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:30   incentives of their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:33   it's rather here is something for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:35   go look at now teehee and it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:39   yeah it didn't didn't throw me but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:41   has been common i think maybe maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:43   just that it's it's always been like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:45   that with with so many comics and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:47   guess maybe I just thought with DC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:50   saying they were trying to reach a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:51   broader audience or bring people back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:53   into the fold and advertises on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:55   television a nationwide created girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:58   geek culture is you think they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2338">TS</a>]

00:38:59   have talked to some women about how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:01   felt about this this long-standing comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:03   book convention of women being the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:05   objects and the and the add-ons and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:06   tokens in the books you know but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:09   they didn't change right i mean it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:11   is it is what kind of you would expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:14   which is i just i was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:15   disappointed by it now before we get off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17   too far on the horrible crippling sexism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19   of DC in a couple issues which we did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:24   want to talk about Jason mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:26   watchman number one and i want to see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:28   you guys had any thing to say about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:32   I already dropped the micronized bomb a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:33   little while ago about about other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:35   classic number-one issues that you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:38   her or or didn't like and you know since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:41   Jason mentioned amazing fantasy 15 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:43   and fantastic for number one and i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:46   going to mention watch men number one as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:47   well which is a great example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:49   something that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:50   reveal all the characters and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:51   storyline yet but it gives you enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:53   that you are in this rich world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:56   it sets the initial mystery and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:59   know makes you have to come back for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:01   more and that that I was hooked I heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:03   knew nothing about watchmen other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:05   that it was severely hyped and i bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:08   watchman number one because i am that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:10   ancient and was blown away and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:13   know that was it I was sold on the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:14   on the whole series but i'm wondering if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:16   you guys have some other examples of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:19   favorite first issues from the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:22   dan how about you mm I was I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:26   actually afraid you're gonna start what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:27   you want to pass now I don't pass to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:30   canopy limited series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:31   sure yeah i mean i plied rebel army and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:33   limited Wolverine limited series number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:35   one back in the eighties still got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:38   still got arrangements nodding they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:40   don't get totally rocked that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:41   great why can't I want totally won the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:43   faith people have totally won the sky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:45   over yeah he's totally in my court now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:47   could say anything now and he could come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:49   on board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:50   I've got I've got the book right here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:52   I've got it right here in my box right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:53   by the dad is that a original original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:55   worry miniseries chris claremont Frank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:58   Miller yeah yeah it's not in great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2458">TS</a>]

00:40:59   condition but I mean look at that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:03   that book is amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:04   everything about it cover the cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:07   forget everything forget they don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:08   open it just look at the cover this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:10   james a bad its iconic now it's the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:14   what are you gonna say I mean that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:15   favorite number one gotta be alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:19   fair enough faith do you have a favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:22   number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:23   uh-huh I mm no no wonder what dad wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:30   to answer for our flight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:32   I just have a feeling she's in sapphire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:33   yeah sure you can't be Canadian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:37   superheroes actually you can you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:40   beat them senseless but good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:45   I mean how can you beat this yeah he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:48   you can't see this but he's like waving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:50   around his will be generally very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:52   gently very gently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:53   it's like that you think like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:54   shrink-wrap you don't harm now it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:56   a bit just in a bag can't believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   champey read you can't even look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:00   look away again then can be viewed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:03   so I'm gonna go outside of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:06   mainstream genre with number ones stray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:08   bullets number one by a david lapham [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:12   came out you can get them all in trade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:15   now and i encourage the audience to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:17   them up every issue is almost a number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:20   one because every issue was a complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:23   story and he'd introduce a new character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:24   so you have to kind of get to know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:26   character the world the whole thing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:28   was almost mostly seventies pulp fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:32   type stories but after four or five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:35   issues you started realizing there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:38   big story going on and all these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40   are connected even though they weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:43   in there but you got to start seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:45   other parts of the same town or same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:47   storyline going on and other things from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:49   other characters perspectives and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:51   like oh wait i thought i was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53   reading interesting character pieces and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:54   now there's this bigger picture going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:56   and it was each story by itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:58   great story and then bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:01   meta-narrative amazing but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:03   cheating because you've just said every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:04   issue is number one but there was only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:06   one number one and you can tell from it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:07   that every other issue is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:08   interconnected know that you can't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:10   number one a red cover a little kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:14   dressed up for Halloween as a ghost and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:17   has to cover great story just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:20   each one is complete story was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:21   number one issue is fantastic one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23   best number ones I've ever read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25   fair enough Lisa what about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:28   I'm going to slightly different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:30   direction and make an argument that as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:32   publishing arm vertigo actually tends to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:35   have a very strong number one issues on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:37   most of their books if it's the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:39   book for example I thought that bill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:41   williams fables has a really strong and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:43   compelling number one issue because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:46   started off right away with a murder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:48   mystery and they do and they World build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:50   around the murder mystery at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:51   time and it was one of those where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:55   put down you just want to read more more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:56   more and then going way way back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2636">TS</a>]

00:44:01   your gay men's first issue black orchid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:03   is definite again what does it kills off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:06   a main character and then you know kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:09   of reboots the premise all the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:11   issues that's another one that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:12   fun and powerful to read and the work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:14   that bryan cave on has done for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:16   vertigo again almost always number ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:18   have been really good really strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:20   jumping into the wayback machine as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:25   middle schooler I think when the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:30   issue of xmas Newton's came out I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:35   that oh yeah I love that number one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:37   think that is fantastic and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:40   definitely set a tone for the series and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:42   then had a story and did a great job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:43   introducing characters within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:45   framework of an already established a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:46   fictional universe and so I'd argue that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:49   that's a really strong number one shoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:50   didn't do mutants get kicked off by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:53   graphic novel though and then there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:54   the number one I don't remember to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:57   honest with the other members is sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2697">TS</a>]

00:44:59   down with a stack of of the of the of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:01   the comic books at the comic issues and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:03   reading through some pretty sure yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:06   think that i think we launched it with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:07   with a graphic novel and then they went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:09   to number one but i do remember reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:10   that number one a million times because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:13   it we as somebody who discovered a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:17   of these comics obviously most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:19   discover comics not with issue number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:20   one but with issue number 138 yeah uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:23   and so being in on the ground floor of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:26   you know the next x-men basically when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:30   didn't get a chance to do that before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:32   because I was too young to reject anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:35   around 16 yeah it was exciting and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:39   that's you know me I think that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:41   purpose number ones surviving we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:44   number ones again and again comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:46   companies reset the numbering whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:48   they feel like it in order i guess you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:51   know collectors want to collect them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:52   they will not send a message about it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:55   how it's a new story and that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57   the next thing i want to bring up which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:59   is our how important our number ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:03   really because don't most of us and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:06   is bisko's for origin stories to don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:08   most of us fall into a story in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:10   middle anyway I mean how often is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:12   that we start with we see number one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:14   we start with number one unless we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:15   discovered some other part of the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:18   and then have decided to backtrack to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:19   i think i think they're important but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:22   listen talking about this fables thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:24   the other day look at the cover this new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:26   fable side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:28   this thing looks good I want to get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:29   and I said to the person in the storm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:32   like well can I just jump into haha you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:36   can't just jump into that they like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:37   oh no you can't go no and then they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:40   they said here's where you want to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:42   and they took me back and they have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:43   entire like wing of this comment is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:46   big that whole wing devoted to just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:49   straight paperback to this thing I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:50   never get caught up in by others there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:53   this book but right now the series there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:55   and this not give anything away that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:58   first arc of the series of the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:00   giant art that takes up like seven or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:02   eight or nine trade paperbacks concerns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:04   a giant war and you can totally skip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:07   over that and jump into the universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:08   after the war is done and you're you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:11   know all you're missing is some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:12   backstory and easter egg has dropped in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:14   but that's your entry point if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:16   want to go back and read and it and drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:19   a boatload of money on trades and spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:21   the entire weekend catching up on that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:23   actually the good things about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:25   series is it seems like Willingham is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:26   riding along arcs and while you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:29   like the series enough to encourage you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:31   to read them you can totally jump in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:32   after the war's over and and you'd still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:35   have a really rewarding experience with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:36   the serious that's one of the things i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:38   think that series is doing right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:39   providing a lot of natural tapering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:41   points have we gotten spoiled have we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:43   gotten too much information to the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:45   where back in the day if you had seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:47   you know hey this table is a cool comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:50   pickup issue number 128 and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:53   wouldn't have said well i can get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:55   trade paperback I can go on Wikipedia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:56   and look at the story arc and maybe i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:58   just start with number one and work my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:00   way up and back then you know not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:03   sound again like an old man back then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:05   maybe we're a little more innocently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:07   saying you know whatever i'll just pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:08   up this issue i found out of the at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:09   supermarket and I'll figure it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:11   because I think we're all capable of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:13   figuring out where the what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:15   the story i'm not sure we all need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:16   start with number one but I feel like at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:20   this point that's the society we live it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:22   is we have so much information at their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:23   disposal that you know why would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:25   ever start at number eighteen when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:27   could start at number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:29   one of the things that jim shooter was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:32   always really big on and pushed his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:34   writers and editors to do was every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:37   issue is somebody's first so you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:39   have enough things in the story that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:41   anybody picking up the story can pick up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:43   the world and the characters and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:45   which is why every issue of x-men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:48   wolverine head Wolverine say I'm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:50   best there is at what I do and what I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:51   isn't very nice which is all you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:53   know about the character and as a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:55   time reader reading in a trade paperback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:57   now it's really annoying but in the days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:59   of those single issues on newsstands and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:01   you know you pick up one in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:03   of the story it told you everything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:05   you look at any issue Fantastic Four and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:07   it was you got every issue was sooo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:11   referred to johnny is her brother Reed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:14   referred to the accident was generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:16   referenced read referred to sue is his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:18   wife like just through the dialogue you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:20   got who all the characters were and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:22   writers don't do that today they tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:24   the beginning of like you know an issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:25   of ultimate spider-man they have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:26   little blurb about ultimate who ultimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:28   spider-man is and what happened in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:30   previous issue to help with it but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:32   used to be built into the stories which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:34   is kind of annoying and trade paperbacks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:36   that we live in today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:37   alright that's that jason reitman has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:41   dropped some history on us there I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:42   actually grew up reading gym shooters a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:44   marvel comics and and I I did feel that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:47   way that was that works for me because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:49   that's how i got into comics was not by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:51   digging up old issues but just dropping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:53   into those those issues and being like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:54   okay I get through the x-men are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:56   generally I kind of figured out who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:58   kitty pryde is and why she down in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2998">TS</a>]

00:49:59   tunnels with the Morlocks you know I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:02   didn't need to read that issue 12 issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:04   ago I I i could piece it together and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:07   also used to the asterisks to cross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:09   hospital i love the footnotes and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:12   one you could actually hunt them down if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:14   you're interested in them to my very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:15   first comic book was uncanny x-men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:17   annual number five which Boone oh yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:21   would allow the dude yeah we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:23   discussed what a jerk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:25   re Richards's on it anyway of course oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:28   that's my favorite topics of you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:30   eight anyway the point is I'm not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:33   do they do the thing where you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:34   introduced to everybody they do with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:35   x-men to wear like storm can you sum up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:37   some wins for us of course I care and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:39   but they also explained to the boon R&Y [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:44   Professor Xavier's girlfriend is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:46   alien and so on and so forth we got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:48   footnotes aplenty and so you know as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:50   as a 5th grader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:51   not only did i do I get this instant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:54   comprehension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:55   of this this fictitious world I was also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:57   really hooked on the idea that there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3057">TS</a>]

00:50:58   back reading to do or or that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:01   this world radiated out to other books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:02   that i could hunt down as well and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:04   was just a beautiful balance of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:06   self-contained story and I look into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:09   wider world and i do think that despite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:13   the plethora of crossover events that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:15   most comic book publishers put out today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:17   I think we've all I i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:19   storytelling his ship to the point where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:20   it doesn't do that as elegantly as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:22   used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:23   I don't know why but I think we've lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:25   a little bit of that style and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:27   pity the my first issue was x-men 1 99 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:32   and it was wearing Rachel summers became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34   phoenix and I had no idea who any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:37   these characters were or phoenix or any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:39   of that stuff but the issue like I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:41   this character is going to his major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:43   transformation and her mom but she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:46   been altered reality but her mom also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:48   had gone through this and then did very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:49   very bad things and she has a lot to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:52   to live up to and makeup for and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:55   introduce me to one issue to this entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:57   world and I got it was like a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:59   story and intriguing enough then to kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:01   of investigate this world and discover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:03   all of it was amazing and and it's it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:06   kind of what first issues need to do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:08   I don't know that any of the DC one's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10   really rose to that level it does anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:15   disagree i didn't read enough them to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:18   able to do agree or disagree so I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:20   going to take your word for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:21   alright so before we go though I wanna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:25   turn Jason's question on it a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:28   i'm interested to know from all of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:31   this is where i actually i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:33   put you on the spot finally one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:35   nice things about DC to go about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:37   number ones is if we were to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:38   somebody this week that one DC comic was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:42   good they wouldn't have to go back a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44   hundred hundred and twenty issues they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:46   could go back to last month or just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:49   downloaded on their iPad and start with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:51   issue 1 and then probably immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:53   move on to issue 2 and then that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:54   be it may have to wait a month so i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:56   going to put you on the spot and ask if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:59   for our blisters out there if there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:01   one DC number one that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:04   recommend they try to see about this new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:07   DC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:08   the stuff 52 number-one issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:12   what would it be and i'll start and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:15   going to start with the Blue Beetle it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17   which i mentioned before because it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:19   true origin story which is fun i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:22   the Blue Beetle does not get enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:23   credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:24   I am a sucker for the teenage kid with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:26   problems who get superpowers genre i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:28   love invincible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:29   I love ultimate spider-man and blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:32   beetle is the DC ultimate spider-man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:35   he's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:36   it's a great comic and the new comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:39   looks to be just as good as got this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:41   whole cosmic soldier kind of thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:43   i'm a sucker for the space superhero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:46   genre to and blue beetles got all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:48   that so that's what i recommend it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:51   you haven't I ever heard the Blue Beetle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:53   before I say check it out because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:56   will get the whole story of who the blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:57   beetle is and what he's all about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3237">TS</a>]

00:54:00   i'm going to be going to be reading that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:02   one Jason what about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:03   I don't think almost depends on who I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:06   talking to and what kind of genre they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:07   like because I think to DC's credit they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:09   hit lots of different genres and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:11   something for almost everyone if I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:14   just doing the my top one I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:17   probably go with the flow Mach omak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:18   number one because it it was so much fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:22   and and it started to introduce a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:25   character and its hapless office worker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:27   gets zapped by brother I satellite and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:31   turned into this killing machine for but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:33   for a purpose because omak has an agenda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:35   for the satellite has an agenda which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:37   you don't know what it is but you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:38   there's an agenda and then there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:40   monsters that are bigger than life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:42   destruction and mayhem and a girlfriend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:45   who's worried about her hapless office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:47   boyfriend who's disappeared during all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49   of this carnage because he's making at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:50   night it was a fun kind of light story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:54   and faith what about what you guys do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:58   you have a recommendation if you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:00   only recommend one comic for somebody to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:02   try from the new DC what would it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:04   mm that's it is such a tough when I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:08   of agree that you know might depend on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10   the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:11   yes yes but i am asking tough questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:12   you got you got to answer only one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:17   you know I mean this is gonna die i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:22   really like the the way swamp thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:24   starting out but i really like Batman to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:26   i have to pick one you do not Batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:27   Aquaman rather I wouldn't put that man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:29   on they're for the average person I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:34   don't miss a swamp think that that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:35   sleeper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:36   that's my underdog I didn't even read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:38   that one because i am so attached to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:39   that Alan Moore run on this one thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:41   I'm interesting island i'll check it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:43   I like hearing positive things about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:45   because I i do love that that character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:48   at least as Ellen were kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:49   reinventing him and I i I'm I'm I so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:52   intrigued now so i will take your advice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:53   you should know before you jump in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:56   kind of completely undoes everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:58   eleanor did that's fine i'm expecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:01   there to be dead continuity now which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:03   a that that's ok I'm ok with that faith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:06   what about you I probably say batgirl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:09   because that's the only one I've read so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:11   far where I thought I want to read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:14   good 1i like that when she's not she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:16   not she's not hung up on the Oracle or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:19   anything else because she didn't read in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:20   the Bible and read that I know about me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:22   so you gotta at we're telling you Lisa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:25   you should read that girl number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:26   it's good great and you know you get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:28   see the human side of of one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:30   heroes who is not afraid at least in her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:31   own personal thoughts and our own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:33   personal thoughts to admit to herself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:35   now I don't know what I'm to what am i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:38   doing am i doing out here in this outfit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:40   ok alright alright have you had I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:42   been press-ganged into submission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:45   Oh your baby is also telling you to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:48   back I I speak baby so I can you hear in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:51   the background I owe a little bit she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:54   says it's delightful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:55   I'd ask i'd ask you Lisa but you hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:58   you've only read the one right so are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:00   you gonna are you gonna go out and get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:03   girl number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:04   you know i might read it in the store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:06   for I'm I'm quitting the tangents today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:10   but part of my problem number one is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:13   don't want them hanging around the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:15   afterwards what I'd rather do is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:16   see which book shake out in which ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:18   are going to get trades and by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:20   trades if i'm going to buy and read them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:21   I don't like being single issues anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:24   which i think is another podcast another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:26   time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:27   yeah i'm doing i'm i'm doing that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:28   I'm doing it all on the ipad now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:31   no that's the only single issues i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:32   buy will be on the ipad yeah if if we an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:35   ipad for non-work related purposes or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:38   through not work related channels and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:40   i'll probably start dropping money on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:42   single issues again but not the physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:44   objects now so I've got all my mom would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:50   you like to start them to me know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:53   know because i really like i really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:54   having them in me it's great it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:56   to collect and you know I mean I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:58   time away from devices in the audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:01   should go i believe November they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:03   coming out with a hardcover collection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:04   of every single number you know fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:07   two number ones in one hardcover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:10   collection that's actually a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:11   smart move because I can energize people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:12   to do the books that would read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:14   otherwise yeah that's a really good idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:17   really good idea and if you can go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:19   dance house if you'd like to read them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:20   now because Dan is keeping the shop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:22   alive and good for him that's right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:24   you're spending time away from devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:26   day and I never spend time away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:27   devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:28   I i fall asleep with my ipad under my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:31   pillow until you're going to say on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:33   far and that my kids on my forehead the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:36   ipads under the pillow that's how that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:37   works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:38   alright well this has been fun we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:41   some technical issues but we managed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:42   have a conversation anyway which is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:45   anyway I until the next time the comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:47   book club convenience which I hope is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:49   soon at i would like to thank my comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:52   book club members we all have our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:53   membership cards new member is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:55   indoctrinated and indoctrinated inducted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:58   today you'll you'll receive your up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:00   hazing ritual later Dan Benjamin and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:02   faith korpi thank you for being here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:04   thanks so much for having us yeah thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:06   so much i'm glad it's not normally this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:10   chaotic and things don't normally break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:12   this badly he said you know police and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:15   Jason lecture right sure Jason brightman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:19   thank you for thank you for for being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:21   here again and talking about so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:24   number ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:25   it's always great to be here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:26   and Lisa Schmeisser from home with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:30   the baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:30   thanks for thanks for dialing and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:32   really appreciate it I had a great time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:34   thank you all right until the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:36   meeting of the comic book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:38   this is jason l for the incomparable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:40   wishing you farewell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:51   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:58   that's the weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58   that's the weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:00   sign off I've ever done but you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:01   guess I like that one adios courage to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3601">TS</a>]

01:00:05   help Ryder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbcV3Oo/3605">TS</a>]