The Incomparable

55: If a Show Never Airs, Can It Be Cancelled?


00:00:00   uncomfortable podcast over 55 [TS]

00:00:07   September's plenty [TS]

00:00:11   it's time for another edition of the [TS]

00:00:15   uncomfortable today we're going to be [TS]

00:00:16   talking about television but we're gonna [TS]

00:00:19   do something a little different we are [TS]

00:00:21   going to hold the draft for those of you [TS]

00:00:23   who do not follow the sports draft is [TS]

00:00:25   when for example football teams will [TS]

00:00:28   pick players from college football [TS]

00:00:30   we'll take turns one of the time they'll [TS]

00:00:33   they'll take a pic you can't pick the [TS]

00:00:34   same player twice only one team gets [TS]

00:00:36   each player what we're going to do here [TS]

00:00:38   is we're gonna pick cancelled TV shows [TS]

00:00:42   and the premise hit is pick your [TS]

00:00:44   favorite brilliant but cancelled TV [TS]

00:00:47   shows so it should be a trip down memory [TS]

00:00:50   lane a painful trip about shows that [TS]

00:00:54   died too soon [TS]

00:00:55   joining me to take this trail of tears [TS]

00:00:57   are my panelists Dan Morgan hello hi [TS]

00:01:02   jason this is a big z relational this is [TS]

00:01:05   really emotional from hey whoa [TS]

00:01:06   but we're not comparing sizes of list [TS]

00:01:08   but my head's at least like it doesn't [TS]

00:01:09   i'm sure keen sure 2075 I don't have a [TS]

00:01:12   big fan of failure so I mean I know it's [TS]

00:01:16   paused failure my entire life as Scott [TS]

00:01:18   will tell you got Mykelti as as just [TS]

00:01:22   referenced is also here hi Scott [TS]

00:01:24   hello I i only watch television for the [TS]

00:01:26   articles excellent also here is Glenn [TS]

00:01:31   fleischmann hello are you watching [TS]

00:01:33   television [TS]

00:01:34   I no longer but i only watch shows that [TS]

00:01:36   I believe will be cancelled good that it [TS]

00:01:39   saves time that way [TS]

00:01:40   that's right and serenity Caldwell hello [TS]

00:01:42   hello all of my shows get cancelled its [TS]

00:01:46   IDs I'm sensing a theme here this this [TS]

00:01:48   may just be a a podcast of shows we [TS]

00:01:51   watch so it really doesn't remember a [TS]

00:01:53   time before there was television no wait [TS]

00:01:55   a minute or cancellation shows yes my [TS]

00:01:57   day shows went on forever until that the [TS]

00:01:59   cast members died and they just fill [TS]

00:02:01   their bodies they did 700 episodes of [TS]

00:02:03   season and then like it and they loved [TS]

00:02:05   it [TS]

00:02:06   alright so we are going to begin the [TS]

00:02:09   draft and I imagine that there will be [TS]

00:02:11   some shows that will go quickly so once [TS]

00:02:15   they're taken you can't take them with [TS]

00:02:17   your choice get everybody just assumed [TS]

00:02:19   that everybody else is going to pick [TS]

00:02:20   fireflies and I just thought you should [TS]

00:02:22   we just site Firefly and spot it [TS]

00:02:25   saying like number one is firefly but [TS]

00:02:28   and none of us are gonna pick it I think [TS]

00:02:30   it kind of goes without saying that [TS]

00:02:31   everybody knows that Joss Whedon's sci [TS]

00:02:33   fi Western e thing firefly got cancelled [TS]

00:02:36   way too soon and was really quite good [TS]

00:02:38   and it died young and left a beautiful [TS]

00:02:40   corpse [TS]

00:02:41   but you know like somebody wants to [TS]

00:02:42   wants to pick it we can do that but [TS]

00:02:44   otherwise i'm willing to just put it up [TS]

00:02:46   on the board let's let's take it as read [TS]

00:02:48   was it not on anybody's let's do it was [TS]

00:02:50   not on my list because i do not like it [TS]

00:02:52   but times i'm an online you always gonna [TS]

00:02:55   be sky-high no yeah anything anybody's [TS]

00:02:58   yeah I assumed everybody else but Scott [TS]

00:03:00   would pick it will see their Scott you [TS]

00:03:03   get firefly i will likely to firefly on [TS]

00:03:06   the board you know we talked about it [TS]

00:03:09   before in previous podcast what so so [TS]

00:03:11   what can you say about it was great it's [TS]

00:03:13   too bad that didn't get it got like it [TS]

00:03:15   didn't get 13 episodes did it didn't air [TS]

00:03:17   13 episode they made they made 13 I [TS]

00:03:20   believe all right now although when all [TS]

00:03:22   is said and done but it did not err all [TS]

00:03:23   of them [TS]

00:03:24   we're going to start with Scott McNulty [TS]

00:03:28   know because the first pick in the [TS]

00:03:30   brilliant but canceled draft not sure [TS]

00:03:32   how I got the first pick but I am [TS]

00:03:34   honestly thought you were wearing you [TS]

00:03:35   there was a lottery and Scott as the [TS]

00:03:37   lowest-scoring and I don't know what I [TS]

00:03:42   just did a reverse lunge auction [TS]

00:03:43   yes i'm going to pick my then you know [TS]

00:03:47   this the the the draft format put a [TS]

00:03:50   little pressure on so I'm gonna have to [TS]

00:03:51   pick my favorite won first place so that [TS]

00:03:53   no one else gets it which would be [TS]

00:03:55   pushing daisies 0 crossing it off my [TS]

00:03:59   list [TS]

00:03:59   yeah mine to do I i win I've done heard [TS]

00:04:03   I should sign off pushing daisies a link [TS]

00:04:07   two seasons on ABC created by Bryan [TS]

00:04:12   Fuller i'm reading the wikipedia entry [TS]

00:04:14   right now even like the show anymore [TS]

00:04:18   I've never seated I just I knew dad [TS]

00:04:20   liked it so I picked it [TS]

00:04:21   Mykelti about the pie maker and he [TS]

00:04:26   touches people and they and they come [TS]

00:04:28   back to life briefly exactly but it yes [TS]

00:04:30   so he is the pie makers essential [TS]

00:04:32   character he has this power where he [TS]

00:04:34   someone are [TS]

00:04:36   dead thing if you touch a dead thing it [TS]

00:04:37   comes back to life for a minute I think [TS]

00:04:40   I and but if they are alive for a minute [TS]

00:04:43   and then if it touches them again they [TS]

00:04:45   die so if he touches the person again [TS]

00:04:49   before the minutes elapsed is that they [TS]

00:04:51   die permanently and he can't bring the [TS]

00:04:53   back if they stay alive longer than a [TS]

00:04:55   minute something else nearby dies to [TS]

00:04:58   compensate and kind of you know balance [TS]

00:05:00   the universe opposed and so it starts he [TS]

00:05:04   finds out he has this power because his [TS]

00:05:05   mother dies he touches her cheek [TS]

00:05:07   infected life I his next morning and he [TS]

00:05:10   doesn't know about the whole minute rule [TS]

00:05:11   so that his next-door neighbor's a [TS]

00:05:13   father dies because his mother has been [TS]

00:05:16   resurrected and it's very sad because at [TS]

00:05:19   the end of that night his mother toxin [TS]

00:05:21   into bed kisses him on the forehead and [TS]

00:05:23   dice again so bad but by kind of darkly [TS]

00:05:27   funny kitten that I think things up the [TS]

00:05:30   the whole show as sad but darkly funny [TS]

00:05:32   and and so ends the brilliant Joe and [TS]

00:05:36   the first time I saw it its kind of its [TS]

00:05:38   it's whimsical and it's surreal and the [TS]

00:05:41   first episode that i watched ice after [TS]

00:05:44   the end of it I thought I enjoy that [TS]

00:05:46   show and it will be cancelled so I was [TS]

00:05:48   quite i was excited that I got a second [TS]

00:05:50   season at the very least I believe that [TS]

00:05:52   was during the other writers strike [TS]

00:05:53   right somehow they ended up with a short [TS]

00:05:56   season and then they got back for a [TS]

00:05:57   second season and then that because of [TS]

00:05:59   the strike in the time off the ratings [TS]

00:06:01   weren't as good so it died and not to be [TS]

00:06:04   brought back to life [TS]

00:06:05   no yeah the the sad thing about pushing [TS]

00:06:07   daisies is that the first you know ten [TS]

00:06:10   episodes that were aired had really high [TS]

00:06:12   ratings and ABC was very very buoyant [TS]

00:06:15   about the shower is like look Bryan [TS]

00:06:17   Fuller made a show that's not going to [TS]

00:06:19   get cancelled and then the writers [TS]

00:06:20   strike happened although to beaten to be [TS]

00:06:22   fair i watched the first season of [TS]

00:06:25   pushing daisies and i liked it i always [TS]

00:06:27   when I saw the pilot I was really [TS]

00:06:29   worried that it was going to be kind of [TS]

00:06:30   overly I don't know just the super [TS]

00:06:33   saturated colors and the narrator and it [TS]

00:06:35   seemed like it was maybe going to be too [TS]

00:06:37   much but I never I never thought it got [TS]

00:06:39   to be too much in that first season when [TS]

00:06:41   it came back to the second season I i [TS]

00:06:43   watched the first I think episode or two [TS]

00:06:45   and I thought oh that did not like this [TS]

00:06:48   show and it just didn't work [TS]

00:06:49   me I don't know whether it was just that [TS]

00:06:50   it was worse or whether the spell was [TS]

00:06:52   broken but that second season I i gave [TS]

00:06:55   up is so I never even watched the whole [TS]

00:06:57   second season [TS]

00:06:58   that's a shame it's not i mean i would [TS]

00:07:01   say it's probably not as good as the [TS]

00:07:03   first season but it's still very good [TS]

00:07:04   and it's better than a lot of was on air [TS]

00:07:06   and plus I mean it's kind of a kind of [TS]

00:07:08   you now because now you have like good [TS]

00:07:10   television that's left that you'll never [TS]

00:07:12   walk through just waiting around for [TS]

00:07:15   Eddie Caldwell you get the second pic oh [TS]

00:07:17   gosh [TS]

00:07:17   ok so Dan Martin will take all my shows [TS]

00:07:20   so I'm actually going to go for a show [TS]

00:07:22   that I don't even know if he's watched [TS]

00:07:23   yet which is kings which is actually [TS]

00:07:26   fairly my list haha [TS]

00:07:27   mm-hmm and they're all night doing [TS]

00:07:30   anyway or Indiana and what you get for [TS]

00:07:32   having a picklist in so kings is a [TS]

00:07:35   unique kind of thing in that it was only [TS]

00:07:38   about 13 episodes and as it is it could [TS]

00:07:41   stand alone as a 13-episode miniseries [TS]

00:07:44   but the premise and the weary like the [TS]

00:07:47   way it went [TS]

00:07:48   made it so great is basically a show a [TS]

00:07:51   modern-day David and Goliath in an [TS]

00:07:53   alternate reality universe where [TS]

00:07:55   religion was still very big but it's but [TS]

00:07:57   it's not you know it's it's not a [TS]

00:08:00   religion heavy show in the way that you [TS]

00:08:02   watch it you're like oh this is touched [TS]

00:08:04   by an angel or anything like that it's [TS]

00:08:06   it's very intricate it's kind of like [TS]

00:08:08   when i was first pitching it to people i [TS]

00:08:10   call it as an intersection between the [TS]

00:08:13   west wing and you know even in a way [TS]

00:08:17   Star Wars just it's it's it's not [TS]

00:08:18   necessarily so it's not necessarily [TS]

00:08:20   sci-fi per se but it's it's fascinating [TS]

00:08:24   it was it was such a fun show to watch [TS]

00:08:25   and the way they ended the 13th episode [TS]

00:08:29   it made you just go I want to see more [TS]

00:08:32   I want to see more why is there not more [TS]

00:08:34   and it was of course terribly low rated [TS]

00:08:36   because because NBC did not pitch it at [TS]

00:08:39   all the way they should have so that is [TS]

00:08:42   my pic it was a difficult to pitch I [TS]

00:08:43   mean what I agree with you that they it [TS]

00:08:46   it's very much a political drama in many [TS]

00:08:48   ways which is a hard it's a harsh on [TS]

00:08:51   route 22 short takeoff and especially [TS]

00:08:52   because it's the sci-fi elements that [TS]

00:08:54   were very very subtle [TS]

00:08:56   I mean it's just that it was you know it [TS]

00:08:57   was more fantastic maybe I mean it's not [TS]

00:08:59   set in our universe but it has a lot of [TS]

00:09:01   the trappings of our universe [TS]

00:09:03   it said that you know there's a there's [TS]

00:09:05   this war between these two countries and [TS]

00:09:07   its kind of loosely like you know based [TS]

00:09:09   on as read the Old Testament but it's [TS]

00:09:12   really well done it's got a fantastic [TS]

00:09:13   Cassian machine is taking antacids yeah [TS]

00:09:17   he is a lot of other like character [TS]

00:09:20   actor show up in secondary roles Dylan [TS]

00:09:22   bakers in there [TS]

00:09:23   macaulay culkin shows up Macaulay [TS]

00:09:25   Culkin's Sebastian Stan lately seen in [TS]

00:09:27   captain america as Bucky Barnes plays [TS]

00:09:29   the sort of stuck up prints and brian [TS]

00:09:33   cox is Abaddon is great [TS]

00:09:36   yes it's an ex it's extremely well done [TS]

00:09:38   i know i was not sure that it would take [TS]

00:09:39   off but having you know i also watched [TS]

00:09:41   all of it and thought every time i watch [TS]

00:09:43   the episodes of this show it's really [TS]

00:09:45   good but it's no one's watching it it [TS]

00:09:47   was good it looked good and I love the [TS]

00:09:50   fact that it's the I just thought the [TS]

00:09:52   idea that it's basically like an [TS]

00:09:54   American city like New York I mean it's [TS]

00:09:57   not but it's like that except it's a [TS]

00:09:58   kingdom and so you've got this you know [TS]

00:10:01   really interesting kind of smashing [TS]

00:10:03   together of of all these different ideas [TS]

00:10:05   and you're right i think political drama [TS]

00:10:07   set in and in a you know sort of like [TS]

00:10:10   fantasy universe that's not not our own [TS]

00:10:12   world kind of a hard sell right because [TS]

00:10:14   even the people who might be interested [TS]

00:10:15   in it from a West Wing kind of [TS]

00:10:17   perspective then they get there they're [TS]

00:10:18   like what he's a king where is this is [TS]

00:10:20   this made-up United III don't know if [TS]

00:10:23   the general audience we go for it and it [TS]

00:10:24   enables things that I hate to say but i [TS]

00:10:26   think it sadly was a little too smart [TS]

00:10:28   for network television [TS]

00:10:29   yeah maybe too complicated premise yeah [TS]

00:10:32   I enjoy the show there was a difficult [TS]

00:10:34   to explain to people why they should [TS]

00:10:35   want [TS]

00:10:36   oh yeah it's so too many things are [TS]

00:10:38   going on but i just want to say it's [TS]

00:10:41   good watch it [TS]

00:10:42   yes America way and it aired on sunday [TS]

00:10:44   about has butterflies three butterflies [TS]

00:10:46   you like their world aside everything [TS]

00:10:49   doesn't we all live love butterflies all [TS]

00:10:52   right with the third pick in the [TS]

00:10:55   cancelled TV show draft Glenn [TS]

00:10:57   fleischmann i am going to pick a flawed [TS]

00:11:01   show that I really liked defying gravity [TS]

00:11:03   who nobody else's list is not on my list [TS]

00:11:07   interesting watching I never saw it is [TS]

00:11:09   on my list I i really i really loved it [TS]

00:11:12   and it was the as with many television [TS]

00:11:15   shows that [TS]

00:11:16   cancel their science fiction and [TS]

00:11:17   canceled the network did everything it [TS]

00:11:19   could to confuse people by showing [TS]

00:11:21   things out of order it was shot in HD [TS]

00:11:23   and I think not shown HD United States [TS]

00:11:25   which in HD in Canada they didn't show a [TS]

00:11:28   couple episodes and show them late and [TS]

00:11:30   whatever and you know there's some [TS]

00:11:32   hackney parts to it but the idea is that [TS]

00:11:33   for what seemed to be you know this [TS]

00:11:37   plausible reasons and the it's someone [TS]

00:11:42   the future but not crazy like decades in [TS]

00:11:44   the future when science has advanced [TS]

00:11:46   well but not ridiculously so we're not [TS]

00:11:48   living in some you know arthur c clarke [TS]

00:11:49   future it's like what we have now very [TS]

00:11:52   very recently I thought pushed in the [TS]

00:11:54   future and you know some improved [TS]

00:11:56   nuclear reactor technology and they've [TS]

00:11:58   developed a multi-stage spaceship that [TS]

00:12:01   can do a grand tour of the plants are [TS]

00:12:03   going to all seven planets I believe [TS]

00:12:06   besides earth i think it was already [TS]

00:12:07   been demoted in this universe and it [TS]

00:12:10   gradually emerges that it's not it's not [TS]

00:12:12   like warp drives and crap like that it's [TS]

00:12:14   gonna take a long time it's going to [TS]

00:12:15   take eight seven or eight years i think [TS]

00:12:16   in the context of the show which is a [TS]

00:12:19   nice arc for a multi-season drama and [TS]

00:12:22   apparently they plotted out the pretty [TS]

00:12:24   good outline of the entire you know what [TS]

00:12:27   the Ark of the show was going to be [TS]

00:12:28   because they had the planets to hang us [TS]

00:12:29   all off of and the idea was you know [TS]

00:12:34   that the soon-to-be this perfectly [TS]

00:12:35   science-driven thing in the corporate [TS]

00:12:36   sponsorship for it and the astronauts [TS]

00:12:39   gonna shoot some ads it was very clever [TS]

00:12:40   but beneath the surface it turned out [TS]

00:12:42   there was a reed completely ulterior [TS]

00:12:44   motive that there were some alien force [TS]

00:12:46   not a force for bad but a force that was [TS]

00:12:49   beyond explanation and ridiculously [TS]

00:12:52   powerful that was driving the mission [TS]

00:12:54   almost by implication by misdirection [TS]

00:12:56   and there's a grand conspiracy but not [TS]

00:12:59   to do evil it was just confusing so as [TS]

00:13:02   the show the first season evolved very [TS]

00:13:04   complicated relationships to go through [TS]

00:13:06   astronaut training which seemed very [TS]

00:13:08   serious it seem like the kind of thing [TS]

00:13:09   you would have in real astronaut [TS]

00:13:11   training with your washing out accidents [TS]

00:13:13   that cause someone to get off the [TS]

00:13:14   mission and so forth and a very [TS]

00:13:16   complicated and rich show with deep [TS]

00:13:17   characters and actors i really like like [TS]

00:13:19   Ron Livingston from office space was on [TS]

00:13:23   it i love and then from oh what's the [TS]

00:13:26   what's the show which the girl is dead [TS]

00:13:28   it's another show with someone is dead [TS]

00:13:30   that like me dead like me there is an [TS]

00:13:32   actress who was on that show as an [TS]

00:13:35   extremely annoying character and her [TS]

00:13:36   name is which one was she [TS]

00:13:39   our Harris yes I very annoying on that [TS]

00:13:41   show lovely on this show [TS]

00:13:43   beautiful woman and complex relations [TS]

00:13:46   complex things happen and so it went for [TS]

00:13:47   they managed to get through i think 13 [TS]

00:13:50   and just 13 episodes I think and I don't [TS]

00:13:52   even know if the 13th was aired in the [TS]

00:13:54   US it was an extremely expensive show to [TS]

00:13:57   produce clearly a must have cost [TS]

00:13:59   millions of dollars in episode and I [TS]

00:14:01   can't see how they could never have made [TS]

00:14:02   it cost-effective lots of CGI lots of [TS]

00:14:05   separate interiors and very interesting [TS]

00:14:08   to find gravity also on my list and once [TS]

00:14:11   again the first time episode i saw i [TS]

00:14:13   thought they're going to cancel this [TS]

00:14:15   immediately because a it's well-written [TS]

00:14:16   and b is way too expensive to be a [TS]

00:14:19   science fiction show on a regular react [TS]

00:14:22   that was exactly what that's it [TS]

00:14:23   co-produced in with canadian TV LCD TV [TS]

00:14:26   and ABC did it so they thought they [TS]

00:14:28   could raise enough money to do it but I [TS]

00:14:29   think it just didn't catch on it was [TS]

00:14:31   cerebral there was some real science in [TS]

00:14:33   it was geeky it was too much like an [TS]

00:14:37   advanced version of reality instead of [TS]

00:14:39   something that was totally fantastically [TS]

00:14:41   driven with fake science nobody will [TS]

00:14:43   believe that there are Canadian [TS]

00:14:44   astronauts with that they were American [TS]

00:14:47   yeah they're worth they're worth one [TS]

00:14:48   point two American astronauts and that [TS]

00:14:51   is the network ABC it was on ABC and [TS]

00:14:53   they moved it around so you have to [TS]

00:14:55   figure out you had said you know get [TS]

00:14:57   like your astrolabe to figure out where [TS]

00:14:59   and when the show was going to be there [TS]

00:15:02   to only when the International Space [TS]

00:15:03   Station was passing overhead exactly [TS]

00:15:06   streamed directly bounced off the [TS]

00:15:08   station to your television set and and [TS]

00:15:11   likely headed out of order and the worst [TS]

00:15:13   possible thing they cancelled it which [TS]

00:15:14   is fine you know cancel it but they did [TS]

00:15:16   not err the last episode that was always [TS]

00:15:18   your hands did not add ok that's just [TS]

00:15:20   everything they always they always do [TS]

00:15:23   that and it's so irritating it's like [TS]

00:15:25   you're not going to use this for [TS]

00:15:26   anything else sometimes the studio that [TS]

00:15:29   has the has the show asks that if shows [TS]

00:15:33   going to be cancelled they leave [TS]

00:15:34   episodes not aired so that when they [TS]

00:15:36   inevitably out an ad they can have [TS]

00:15:38   unaired episodes another dinner they did [TS]

00:15:40   last upsetting in [TS]

00:15:41   canada yeah they've done it for stuff [TS]

00:15:44   two words like its net Big Show is never [TS]

00:15:46   coming out on the right we have 13 [TS]

00:15:48   episodes it but it was it was so it was [TS]

00:15:50   really beautiful in a way that you know [TS]

00:15:51   what's nice is the fellow who wrote the [TS]

00:15:54   series showrunner I think and believe [TS]

00:15:57   the same guy who wrote directed he was [TS]

00:16:00   too good things about sorry boy here he [TS]

00:16:02   revealed the rest of the plot like he's [TS]

00:16:04   like as never coming back so here's what [TS]

00:16:07   the next seven years would have been [TS]

00:16:08   like and didn't give away all the [TS]

00:16:10   secrets because some of them and figured [TS]

00:16:11   out but give a rough outline like okay [TS]

00:16:13   that's actually really satisfying [TS]

00:16:14   because I kind of wanted to know and I [TS]

00:16:16   would never know it's possible novelized [TS]

00:16:18   there's something that's a good story [TS]

00:16:19   and the other thing is this great little [TS]

00:16:21   bit which is that there's a guy plays a [TS]

00:16:22   TV reporter in it who is the is a really [TS]

00:16:25   aggressive nasty british tabloid TV [TS]

00:16:28   reporter who's trying to figure out all [TS]

00:16:29   the details and hanging around there all [TS]

00:16:31   the time sorting it out and he's in fact [TS]

00:16:33   the director of sliding doors and I [TS]

00:16:35   don't know what is directing credits [TS]

00:16:37   like how he became an actor also laura [TS]

00:16:41   is primarily after that the only movie [TS]

00:16:43   director don't forget [TS]

00:16:44   alright we are going to move onto our [TS]

00:16:47   our fourth pick of the first round of [TS]

00:16:49   the cancelled TV draft and of course [TS]

00:16:51   that will be dan moore and Dan go for it [TS]

00:16:54   I i have to also pick I think my [TS]

00:16:57   favorite among all these shows or at [TS]

00:16:59   least one that I just it pains me that [TS]

00:17:01   they didn't continue it and that is a [TS]

00:17:03   short-lived one season 13 episode show [TS]

00:17:06   that aired on of all networks ABC family [TS]

00:17:08   called the middle middle middle and oh [TS]

00:17:12   it's one of the best shows to air in the [TS]

00:17:16   last year's and like nobody saw it it's [TS]

00:17:20   okay so basically the premise of it is [TS]

00:17:23   that in some ways it's kind of a little [TS]

00:17:24   bit like an American doctor who it's [TS]

00:17:27   about this guy [TS]

00:17:28   the middleman who is charged by a [TS]

00:17:30   mysterious agency to sort of deal with [TS]

00:17:32   all the weird the things that go bump in [TS]

00:17:34   the night the aliens vampires zombies [TS]

00:17:37   you know everything that you've you've [TS]

00:17:39   read about in comic books and in science [TS]

00:17:41   fiction is real and the shows the first [TS]

00:17:44   episode starts off with him recruiting [TS]

00:17:45   this young woman Wendy Watson to become [TS]

00:17:48   his apprentice sidekick what-have-you [TS]

00:17:50   companion [TS]

00:17:52   at the she's a little more active than [TS]

00:17:54   your average companion but what's great [TS]

00:17:56   about the show is that it's all Maj to [TS]

00:17:58   like all these other science fiction [TS]

00:18:00   classics there are a number of doctor [TS]

00:18:02   who jokes there are no jokes about Star [TS]

00:18:04   Trek there are jokes about pretty much [TS]

00:18:06   any science fiction you can imagine [TS]

00:18:08   there are there are sort of global [TS]

00:18:09   decides to comic books all of this it's [TS]

00:18:12   a wonderful show that it's just it's [TS]

00:18:15   it's totally over-the-top and can't be [TS]

00:18:17   but the writing is so good that i just [TS]

00:18:21   rewatched the entire thing recently and [TS]

00:18:23   I've forgotten how how much it makes me [TS]

00:18:25   laugh out loud it's just there's [TS]

00:18:27   something about it that perfectly tweets [TS]

00:18:29   my sense of humor and every episode kind [TS]

00:18:31   of takes on a different genre so i'll [TS]

00:18:33   have you know that the alien abduction [TS]

00:18:35   episode and the zombie episode the ghost [TS]

00:18:38   episode and i'll have like jokes to [TS]

00:18:39   things that are reference to that Ghost [TS]

00:18:41   episode has all these jokes to [TS]

00:18:42   Ghostbusters including like the fake [TS]

00:18:45   names of the characters use and it's [TS]

00:18:47   it's just such a wonderful show and the [TS]

00:18:50   unfortunately the its left with sort of [TS]

00:18:53   a cliffhanger episode at the end there [TS]

00:18:55   although that was resolved in a graphic [TS]

00:18:57   novel they made a graphic novel [TS]

00:18:58   13-episode to sort of tie up some of the [TS]

00:19:02   plot lines though not all of them and [TS]

00:19:05   just all in all a great show but it was [TS]

00:19:07   on a weird network it was on it i think [TS]

00:19:09   friday nights or something it has a you [TS]

00:19:11   know a cast that nobody's ever heard of [TS]

00:19:13   and I think of unfortunately had a lot [TS]

00:19:16   going against it but it was amazing that [TS]

00:19:18   it got made in the first place and that [TS]

00:19:19   they made 13 episodes so i highly [TS]

00:19:22   recommend that if you have not already [TS]

00:19:23   seen the middleman you check it out [TS]

00:19:26   alright yeah i love the middleman that's [TS]

00:19:28   a great great show there's nothing [TS]

00:19:30   there's nothing not to like about it [TS]

00:19:31   you're right it is like Doctor Who in [TS]

00:19:33   the sense that it is a family-friendly [TS]

00:19:35   fun it's not particularly dark it's not [TS]

00:19:38   particularly liked it you know it's it's [TS]

00:19:41   got violence but it sort of fantastical [TS]

00:19:44   and silly and every episode has a [TS]

00:19:46   Wilhelm screen and it's not like that [TS]

00:19:48   tells you later we're expecting they're [TS]

00:19:50   always they're always hit there might [TS]

00:19:52   just be off you know slightly off screen [TS]

00:19:54   but um and just great some great cameos [TS]

00:19:57   and guest stars i particularly love ya [TS]

00:20:00   Kevin Sorbo kevin sorbo as a previous [TS]

00:20:02   middleman and I know they're doing that [TS]

00:20:05   no but my favorite episode i think [TS]

00:20:06   perhaps of all of them is the vampire [TS]

00:20:08   episode which involves vampire puppets [TS]

00:20:11   yes the thing i recently watched the [TS]

00:20:14   middle and the thing that really sort of [TS]

00:20:16   makes it for me is the dialogue where [TS]

00:20:19   they just managed to play around the [TS]

00:20:21   word place so much and especially [TS]

00:20:23   because the shows on ABC family it's [TS]

00:20:25   like all right we cannot get away with [TS]

00:20:27   swearing we can't get away with anything [TS]

00:20:29   else so we're just gonna find creative [TS]

00:20:31   ways around it [TS]

00:20:32   well plus the main character is this [TS]

00:20:34   sort of he supposed to be this wholesome [TS]

00:20:35   all-american guy and so he's always [TS]

00:20:38   saying like phooey and kali gee-whiz but [TS]

00:20:41   he's kinda like this very clean-cut [TS]

00:20:43   person but you know the sidekick [TS]

00:20:45   yeah there's a couple scenes where she [TS]

00:20:46   swears her head off but they bleep it [TS]

00:20:48   and put like a black bar over her mouth [TS]

00:20:50   but like there's a surprising amount of [TS]

00:20:52   swearing you know covered up as it might [TS]

00:20:54   be in in a show on a family network [TS]

00:20:57   well it's kind of like yes we know this [TS]

00:20:59   actually happens so we're not going to [TS]

00:21:00   really disguise it except for the fact [TS]

00:21:02   that were required to all right i am for [TS]

00:21:05   my pick in the first round of the draft [TS]

00:21:07   here to close out the first round I'm [TS]

00:21:09   gonna go way back to the delightful [TS]

00:21:13   decade of the nineteen eighties and you [TS]

00:21:16   all know what's coming [TS]

00:21:17   it aired I think 12 episodes and also [TS]

00:21:20   have an unaired episode because that's [TS]

00:21:21   what they do the 12-episode wonder that [TS]

00:21:24   is my beloved max headroom oh yes so max [TS]

00:21:29   headroom mid-eighties that free whereas [TS]

00:21:33   Edison Carter and matt and Max Headroom [TS]

00:21:35   Amanda pace looking about as lovely as [TS]

00:21:38   any woman has ever looked in any TV show [TS]

00:21:40   as his controller the the hacker who [TS]

00:21:43   runs his uh his connection to the [TS]

00:21:46   internet basically fiora and is that why [TS]

00:21:50   are fewer is called peora it is indeed [TS]

00:21:53   actually my on your Escalade or s4 [TS]

00:21:55   theory Jones for maximum eq and they [TS]

00:21:57   work at Network 23 the producer is [TS]

00:22:00   Jeffrey Tambor to play his name is Marie [TS]

00:22:03   on the show and it is if you go back I [TS]

00:22:06   mean it is it is dated it was from the [TS]

00:22:07   eighties but so many things that that [TS]

00:22:11   show has to say about media mass media [TS]

00:22:15   journalism TV news [TS]

00:22:18   even even things like politics and and [TS]

00:22:20   privacy and security and computer [TS]

00:22:24   security have all come true [TS]

00:22:26   it's kind of amazing at the time it [TS]

00:22:29   seemed kind of visionary but also a [TS]

00:22:31   little bit of a knockoff of a lame get [TS]

00:22:33   some kind of neuromancer thing but I'm [TS]

00:22:35   telling you there are so many things [TS]

00:22:37   that got right and so many smart things [TS]

00:22:41   that had to say about about mass media [TS]

00:22:44   while being a network TV show which is [TS]

00:22:47   just kind of amazing to me a lot of fun [TS]

00:22:50   for a show that that I think when it [TS]

00:22:52   started to come on the air [TS]

00:22:54   everybody just assumed it would be [TS]

00:22:55   something kind of silly and ridiculous [TS]

00:22:57   because it features this you know this [TS]

00:22:59   computer-generated except not actually [TS]

00:23:01   head who makes jokes and his encode [TS]

00:23:04   commercials and yet it turns out that [TS]

00:23:07   it's actually this media satire about [TS]

00:23:09   these people who are our reporters for a [TS]

00:23:12   TV network that is slightly into the [TS]

00:23:13   future 20 minutes into the future as the [TS]

00:23:16   show says last well last two very short [TS]

00:23:19   seasons the ratings were started out ok [TS]

00:23:22   went too bad I don't even know why i got [TS]

00:23:25   renewed but it did and then they they [TS]

00:23:26   put a stop to it midway through the [TS]

00:23:28   second season but love love love max [TS]

00:23:31   headroom one of my favorite shows of all [TS]

00:23:33   time and it is just came out on DVD and [TS]

00:23:36   it's a crying shame that they didn't [TS]

00:23:37   make more oh well I should say Morgan [TS]

00:23:39   Shepherd whose in everything is blank [TS]

00:23:42   reg in max headroom which is a great [TS]

00:23:44   character he's got a mohawk and he he's [TS]

00:23:46   a very cory doctorow s kinda figure he's [TS]

00:23:49   a UH he's blanked all of his personal [TS]

00:23:51   information and isn't in the system [TS]

00:23:53   anymore because he doesn't want to be [TS]

00:23:54   tracked by the by the man so Max [TS]

00:23:58   Headroom is my pick because it had to be [TS]

00:24:00   you kids weren't alive when Max Headroom [TS]

00:24:04   was on but I'm telling you he's writing [TS]

00:24:06   to be honest i only remember from the [TS]

00:24:08   commercial yeah so i recommend i mean [TS]

00:24:10   even though it even though it is [TS]

00:24:12   definitely an artifact of the eighties [TS]

00:24:13   there's a lot of smart stuff that it [TS]

00:24:15   says so [TS]

00:24:15   so check out the dvds of Max Headroom [TS]

00:24:17   now that they're finally available after [TS]

00:24:20   like 20 years in limbo while they argued [TS]

00:24:22   over the rights to it [TS]

00:24:24   ok we'll move on to the second round [TS]

00:24:25   Scott what's your second selection my [TS]

00:24:28   second selection is [TS]

00:24:30   it's tough i have two half-hour shows [TS]

00:24:34   that i want to pick and I don't know [TS]

00:24:35   what I'm gonna pick the one that I think [TS]

00:24:38   less people have seen wonderfalls [TS]

00:24:40   anybody o amor Bryan Fuller yeah that's [TS]

00:24:44   all right choices on my list whether you [TS]

00:24:47   so wonderful is a fantastic brief the [TS]

00:24:51   short-lived show about a kind of a [TS]

00:24:54   stereotypical nineties a slacker kind of [TS]

00:24:59   went to college graduated moved back to [TS]

00:25:02   her hometown of Niagara in New York and [TS]

00:25:07   works at a gift shop by the Niagara [TS]

00:25:09   Falls you know Paul's think the [TS]

00:25:13   waterfall [TS]

00:25:13   ok you may have heard of it I added is [TS]

00:25:16   suddenly inanimate objects start talking [TS]

00:25:20   to her and giving her cryptic things [TS]

00:25:23   that you think she's going crazy but the [TS]

00:25:24   inanimate objects are actually giving [TS]

00:25:26   her clues to help people and it's it's [TS]

00:25:29   it's a wonderful show and lasted 13 [TS]

00:25:32   episodes and features the pieman as a [TS]

00:25:36   her brother lipe yes of which 44 aired [TS]

00:25:40   for he said and has my favorite I think [TS]

00:25:43   my favorite theme song of any show about [TS]

00:25:45   us I brought that on itunes look after [TS]

00:25:48   next you see right now it is yes it's a [TS]

00:25:51   fantastic excellent and very much my [TS]

00:25:54   wife crazy listening to it over time as [TS]

00:25:56   I cry and watch episodes of wonder why [TS]

00:25:58   the one [TS]

00:25:59   no that's it that's an awesome show it [TS]

00:26:01   was ya again another show that is so [TS]

00:26:05   bizarre in its premise that it's seems [TS]

00:26:08   like it's doomed to failure and well it [TS]

00:26:10   was but it was it was so well done and [TS]

00:26:13   so well written i agree so delightful [TS]

00:26:16   serenity Caldwell you're up what's your [TS]

00:26:19   second selection [TS]

00:26:20   oh god all right to my second selection [TS]

00:26:21   is a show that I actually haven't seen [TS]

00:26:23   some time but it stands out so vividly [TS]

00:26:27   on me from my childhood that I have to [TS]

00:26:28   mention it which is eerie indiana which [TS]

00:26:31   was a 19 episode show that aired first [TS]

00:26:35   on NBC in the very early nineties which [TS]

00:26:38   is where i remember seeing most of it [TS]

00:26:40   and [TS]

00:26:40   and on Fox and late nineties and kind of [TS]

00:26:43   syndicated after-school television which [TS]

00:26:45   i think when i saw it again and actually [TS]

00:26:48   remembered it and it's basically the [TS]

00:26:51   premise is this kid moves to eerie [TS]

00:26:54   indiana with his parents and quickly [TS]

00:26:56   discovers the town is in fact pretty [TS]

00:26:59   eerie and he meets up with this kid and [TS]

00:27:01   together they basically basically try [TS]

00:27:05   and solve these very weird things that [TS]

00:27:07   happen in the town like they find [TS]

00:27:08   tupperware that allows anything to stay [TS]

00:27:11   alive forever so it's forever where and [TS]

00:27:14   like rabid dogs and things like that it [TS]

00:27:17   was the premise was you know fairly [TS]

00:27:19   typical kids find weird things that are [TS]

00:27:22   semi supernatural nature but the writing [TS]

00:27:25   was very funny and I just like the [TS]

00:27:28   picture of the show lasted for me years [TS]

00:27:31   after i saw to the point where I hadn't [TS]

00:27:33   seen you know I haven't really watched [TS]

00:27:35   the show since they aired in you know 91 [TS]

00:27:37   90 97 and then i was reading AV Club for [TS]

00:27:41   something and they had a retrospective [TS]

00:27:43   on one of the area Anna eerie indiana [TS]

00:27:46   episode which is like parallel universe [TS]

00:27:48   eerie indiana and as i was reading I was [TS]

00:27:51   like all right this show was amazing and [TS]

00:27:53   i had to stop like I was halfway through [TS]

00:27:55   the article i had to stop i had to find [TS]

00:27:57   it online and had to rewatch that [TS]

00:27:58   episode because it's just it's one of [TS]

00:28:01   those things that's in the back of your [TS]

00:28:02   head and you don't really realize that [TS]

00:28:03   it's affected you until someone says hey [TS]

00:28:06   you remember that show and you're like [TS]

00:28:07   yes this affected my entire childhood so [TS]

00:28:11   it's great glen fleischmann it's your [TS]

00:28:13   turn [TS]

00:28:14   what what obscure show will you talk [TS]

00:28:16   about now Quinn peaks are ya na these [TS]

00:28:19   Peaks you know that was watched in [TS]

00:28:22   college would get around gather around [TS]

00:28:23   the old coal fire television set and [TS]

00:28:26   watch we have some cherry pie and watch [TS]

00:28:28   26 so you know it's I think the show for [TS]

00:28:31   those people who are unaware sit [TS]

00:28:33   permitted popular culture is david lynch [TS]

00:28:35   it was a was part of the David Lynch [TS]

00:28:36   subconscious that he's unleashed on to [TS]

00:28:39   us and many of his films and watered [TS]

00:28:41   down for television to be somewhat less [TS]

00:28:44   disturbing although exceeding stripping [TS]

00:28:46   it was a soap right so we sort of david [TS]

00:28:49   lynch's sensibility combined with that [TS]

00:28:51   kind of you know Dallas dynasty kind of [TS]

00:28:54   soapy element which is such a weird [TS]

00:28:57   combination [TS]

00:28:58   yeah it was ever talked about a lot of [TS]

00:29:00   us on this podcast like shows that take [TS]

00:29:03   somewhat more ordinary situations and [TS]

00:29:04   combine them with with surreal elements [TS]

00:29:06   and good writing so you know they're [TS]

00:29:08   there to I believe twin peaks is on for [TS]

00:29:10   two seasons and select right and the [TS]

00:29:13   first season had a story arc that was [TS]

00:29:15   similar so that the confusing thing [TS]

00:29:17   about it is you know you open up with [TS]

00:29:19   this young woman has died this teenagers [TS]

00:29:21   died and no one knows why and it seems [TS]

00:29:23   like there must be some kind of crazy [TS]

00:29:24   murderer and as it develops more the [TS]

00:29:26   realize or supernatural elements at work [TS]

00:29:28   that terrible things are you know a deep [TS]

00:29:32   forces that are beyond the scope of [TS]

00:29:34   anyone can are in this little town [TS]

00:29:37   centre there and the story centers [TS]

00:29:40   around al kooper DB cooper of course who [TS]

00:29:43   comes to town to from the FBI to [TS]

00:29:45   investigate the case and then winds up [TS]

00:29:47   practically moving in together I'll kyle [TS]

00:29:49   maclachlan and the role of the lifetime [TS]

00:29:51   real Portland man typically convoluted [TS]

00:29:54   showing so that the thing that was [TS]

00:29:55   confusing at twin peaks of course is [TS]

00:29:56   that they made a two-hour movie that was [TS]

00:29:59   that kind of the pilot with a rather [TS]

00:30:01   ordinary creepy ending to it that was [TS]

00:30:04   shown in Europe if i recollect the [TS]

00:30:06   original 18 the pilot they shot an [TS]

00:30:08   ending for it in case it didn't get [TS]

00:30:09   picked up and that was shown to Europe [TS]

00:30:12   though when you're up to like David [TS]

00:30:13   Lynch aficionados as if it was a david [TS]

00:30:15   lynch Phil right so in the in the TV [TS]

00:30:17   series was much more complicated [TS]

00:30:19   involved you know people being possessed [TS]

00:30:21   and midgets dancing and all usually the [TS]

00:30:24   sign up some midgets and all the usual [TS]

00:30:26   paraphernalia did but but it was [TS]

00:30:27   fascinated with something you want and [TS]

00:30:28   you don't think it was the lost of its [TS]

00:30:30   day that you couldn't figure out what's [TS]

00:30:32   going on normal you sure that anyone [TS]

00:30:34   could there are things that are [TS]

00:30:35   presented with were so confusing that [TS]

00:30:38   they're supposed to be like a dream [TS]

00:30:39   state you weren't sure there was an [TS]

00:30:40   answer so the first season but more or [TS]

00:30:42   less follow the Ark of the movie and [TS]

00:30:44   you're you find out who killed Laura [TS]

00:30:46   Palmer although it's rather disturbing [TS]

00:30:48   and confusing and not a resolution all [TS]

00:30:50   in the second season fuck you know what [TS]

00:30:53   goes into this plot involving Dale [TS]

00:30:55   Cooper former partner the FBI who is [TS]

00:30:57   somehow super mystical and really crazy [TS]

00:31:00   and killed the love of dill Cooper's [TS]

00:31:01   life so and it the show ended like David [TS]

00:31:05   Lynch new the service is ending and so [TS]

00:31:06   the last episode is [TS]

00:31:07   of season two is particularly confusing [TS]

00:31:10   and ends in Indiana clear [TS]

00:31:12   yeah well and totally unsatisfied also [TS]

00:31:14   guess which is one so you know I missed [TS]

00:31:17   I i think the show had room to grow it [TS]

00:31:19   was it was a fascinating exercise to [TS]

00:31:22   have this error on broadcast television [TS]

00:31:24   and I don't know where it would have [TS]

00:31:27   gone because you've got to come up with [TS]

00:31:28   ever more implausible and peculiar [TS]

00:31:30   situations but a lot of terrific actors [TS]

00:31:32   of cycle through that show too amazing [TS]

00:31:34   amateurs heather graham and a sherilyn [TS]

00:31:38   fenn is in there uh-oh what's her name [TS]

00:31:41   oh god what was I have another city lara [TS]

00:31:43   flynn boyle orphan boil right Peggy [TS]

00:31:45   Lipton is a collector now John Chen who [TS]

00:31:49   did more later piper laurie was one of [TS]

00:31:52   her great later rolls wise great flavor [TS]

00:31:55   wise the fellow who was in all the David [TS]

00:31:58   Lynch movie they died a number of years [TS]

00:31:59   ago now always that fellow's name who's [TS]

00:32:01   a put a crazy role in this movie like he [TS]

00:32:03   always did it lead guy in eraserhead was [TS]

00:32:06   in a trust and Raven yeah Russ Tamblyn [TS]

00:32:09   two people in this in twin peaks were in [TS]

00:32:11   the the movie of West Side Story the [TS]

00:32:14   original movie of that side gallery [TS]

00:32:16   richard beymer and and rust and so it's [TS]

00:32:18   very a very interesting cast great cast [TS]

00:32:21   can David and David Duchovny as a [TS]

00:32:24   cross-dressing FBI agent a couple years [TS]

00:32:26   before the x-files that's right that's [TS]

00:32:28   right the at Twin Peaks great show it [TS]

00:32:31   the second season was uneven although it [TS]

00:32:32   didn't go off a cliff quite as much as I [TS]

00:32:34   think some people remember it now I [TS]

00:32:36   think they made it was kind of a mess [TS]

00:32:38   but there were some great episodes in [TS]

00:32:39   there and even though you always have to [TS]

00:32:42   ask the question what would that third [TS]

00:32:43   season have been like boy I i just i [TS]

00:32:46   remember watching that last episode and [TS]

00:32:48   and just thinking I can't believe this [TS]

00:32:51   isn't coming back because it was just so [TS]

00:32:53   interesting and weird and compelling and [TS]

00:32:56   my favorite thing in the whole show is [TS]

00:32:58   Don Davis who was later on Stargate as [TS]

00:33:01   general Hammond he was a he was the dad [TS]

00:33:03   of the football hero and he was a he was [TS]

00:33:06   like in the military and the line that [TS]

00:33:09   gives me the chills even now as he [TS]

00:33:11   leaned in to Dale Cooper and eat whisper [TS]

00:33:13   the Owls are not what they seem [TS]

00:33:16   oh and over time the suggestion was that [TS]

00:33:19   like the owls were [TS]

00:33:20   temptation of like aliens or demons or [TS]

00:33:24   something really weird and supernatural [TS]

00:33:26   and it was the crazy show that was the [TS]

00:33:28   average alright the colonel occurrence [TS]

00:33:30   role and he was running out what they [TS]

00:33:32   thought was an observatory listening to [TS]

00:33:34   a space astronomy is great [TS]

00:33:36   yeah pointing the way they're pointing [TS]

00:33:38   the it to the ground and looking at that [TS]

00:33:40   bound the earth this and also might put [TS]

00:33:43   a Don Davis then had a wreck [TS]

00:33:45   essentially the same role with salinas [TS]

00:33:48   weirdest in X Files playing the the [TS]

00:33:50   presently and dad [TS]

00:33:51   yes Kelly's dad was instead of the [TS]

00:33:54   colonel he was Admiral or something [TS]

00:33:55   yeah so rent Dan Scott did you ever even [TS]

00:33:58   see twin peaks i have i've never seen [TS]

00:34:01   two peaks though i'll have to admit I do [TS]

00:34:03   watch if you've ever seen the show psych [TS]

00:34:05   they did a twin peaks episode called [TS]

00:34:07   dual spires which is all involves like [TS]

00:34:11   seven of the cast members from twin [TS]

00:34:13   peaks and it was very like bizarre its [TS]

00:34:15   whole area i mean even if you don't [TS]

00:34:16   there's a lot of stuff apparently [TS]

00:34:18   there's a whole wikipedia entry on this [TS]

00:34:20   is like the only episode of psych that [TS]

00:34:21   gets its own entire weekend I need to [TS]

00:34:24   point out to this is one of these things [TS]

00:34:25   that it was a cultural phenomenon this [TS]

00:34:27   is what's weird about twin peaks is the [TS]

00:34:29   first I'm hearing about it people were [TS]

00:34:30   freaked out in the whole like before [TS]

00:34:32   this was before the internet was before [TS]

00:34:34   any kind of mass communication i don't [TS]

00:34:36   know if you remember this before any [TS]

00:34:37   kind of mass communication that besides [TS]

00:34:39   media I people would watch in labor they [TS]

00:34:42   would go to diners because there's a [TS]

00:34:43   diner that figures and people would go [TS]

00:34:45   to diners and watch to show in the diet [TS]

00:34:48   and other phases this whole plot who [TS]

00:34:50   killed Laura Palmer was like an [TS]

00:34:52   international phenomenon for a year and [TS]

00:34:55   it's like oh I'm not going to spoil it [TS]

00:34:57   killed her and then went to the second [TS]

00:34:59   season people like well that's over and [TS]

00:35:01   it was like it's like the who shot mr. [TS]

00:35:03   burns thing like landing it's been like [TS]

00:35:04   20 years are we not we're not going to [TS]

00:35:06   spoil who killed Laura Palmer it's been [TS]

00:35:08   20 years father did but he was best buy [TS]

00:35:10   but he was possessed by killer Bob a [TS]

00:35:12   decent can jump between from body to [TS]

00:35:15   body so it wasn't actually her father [TS]

00:35:17   after all [TS]

00:35:18   in other words the boys from [TS]

00:35:19   Supernatural needed to his name is Bob [TS]

00:35:23   we lived over what you call a [TS]

00:35:25   convenience store [TS]

00:35:26   yes sorry just call back okay me [TS]

00:35:30   yeah little scary and Dan Morgan it's [TS]

00:35:33   your turn I'm frightened [TS]

00:35:34   help i'm extremely frightened let's make [TS]

00:35:36   something a little less frightening [TS]

00:35:39   I'm gonna go out with a short-lived NBC [TS]

00:35:42   series about time travel because I'm [TS]

00:35:45   trail is a journey man its journey male [TS]

00:35:48   chorus it's Jenny man journey man was a [TS]

00:35:50   show basically about this [TS]

00:35:53   this guy just do in San Francisco pisa [TS]

00:35:56   he's a dude he's a journalist and I'm [TS]

00:35:58   traveling your journey man general but I [TS]

00:36:01   mean basically he becomes you know sort [TS]

00:36:03   of unstuck in time yes to take reminders [TS]

00:36:07   I'm yeah and so he travels back to [TS]

00:36:10   certain periods in history and he ends [TS]

00:36:14   up you know as the series progresses you [TS]

00:36:17   start to realize that he's going to [TS]

00:36:18   places that have there's some meaning [TS]

00:36:20   there's some underlying pattern to the [TS]

00:36:23   to the people and that he meets when [TS]

00:36:25   he's traveling through time in the [TS]

00:36:26   places that he goes and and well it sort [TS]

00:36:29   of started out kind of kind of blindly I [TS]

00:36:31   was like any that sounds mildly [TS]

00:36:32   interesting i watched answer to and I [TS]

00:36:35   think I ended up watching out most of it [TS]

00:36:36   on hulu at the time but I'm what was [TS]

00:36:40   sort of struck me with that as the show [TS]

00:36:42   goes on [TS]

00:36:44   I think they go in some really [TS]

00:36:45   interesting directions with it in [TS]

00:36:47   particular i'm remembering an episode in [TS]

00:36:50   which he leaves something in the past [TS]

00:36:53   that then changes the future but the way [TS]

00:36:56   it changes his present is in some ways [TS]

00:36:59   very it'sit's major but it's also kind [TS]

00:37:01   of like it's not like oh my god now [TS]

00:37:02   we've got flying cars which is about to [TS]

00:37:06   basically to spoil it [TS]

00:37:07   he has a he has a son i believe in the [TS]

00:37:11   indeed in his own universe and so he [TS]

00:37:15   could leave something future end it [TS]

00:37:16   the chain of events that sets off [TS]

00:37:17   through chaos theory you know sort of [TS]

00:37:19   ends up with his son was not conceived [TS]

00:37:21   that day so he you know he he added they [TS]

00:37:24   had a child conceived on another day and [TS]

00:37:25   ends up being a daughter but what super [TS]

00:37:27   creepy about this episode is that his [TS]

00:37:29   wife in the you know alternate timeline [TS]

00:37:31   that's created who knows everything [TS]

00:37:33   about his time traveling like all that [TS]

00:37:34   is still consistent like realizes what [TS]

00:37:37   he's going to do and is like fighting [TS]

00:37:40   him tooth and nail on this because it's [TS]

00:37:42   like it's her daughter it's like heard [TS]

00:37:43   the only child that she knows and that [TS]

00:37:46   it was extremely [TS]

00:37:48   kind of affecting creepy as an episode [TS]

00:37:50   when it made you actually think about [TS]

00:37:51   well he doesn't know this this child at [TS]

00:37:54   all despite the fact that you know he's [TS]

00:37:55   her father and all he wants is to get [TS]

00:37:59   his son back but like you know his wife [TS]

00:38:01   has no memory of their son and is very [TS]

00:38:03   fixated on this and I think those those [TS]

00:38:06   interesting drawing of conclusions [TS]

00:38:07   really fascinated me and as the show go [TS]

00:38:10   on you also realize there are there are [TS]

00:38:12   some there's at least one additional [TS]

00:38:14   time travel right around and there's [TS]

00:38:17   also potentially there's the scientists [TS]

00:38:19   who knows more than he's letting on [TS]

00:38:20   right and this is where it got [TS]

00:38:22   frustrating when they canceled after a [TS]

00:38:24   season because they had set up all these [TS]

00:38:25   plot lines and it started to really kick [TS]

00:38:30   into gear with this on with this this [TS]

00:38:31   character arc and then you know that was [TS]

00:38:34   it [TS]

00:38:34   and so we never found out why he was [TS]

00:38:36   traveling through time or what made him [TS]

00:38:40   travel through time or whatever and so I [TS]

00:38:42   think it was an excellent show though I [TS]

00:38:43   really it really got to me after a while [TS]

00:38:45   and of course you know i'm sure Jason [TS]

00:38:47   will tear the geography to shred since [TS]

00:38:49   it's a lovely San Francisco wasn't bad [TS]

00:38:51   actually the geography wasn't bad at all [TS]

00:38:53   III didn't [TS]

00:38:54   the only thing I didn't like about it [TS]

00:38:55   was the was read dymond from homicide as [TS]

00:39:01   the who is he was Mike Kellerman cop on [TS]

00:39:03   the edge on homicide and here he was his [TS]

00:39:06   brother-in-law cop on the edge and i [TS]

00:39:10   didn't i didn't like that character at [TS]

00:39:12   all he was like mr. I thought it was [TS]

00:39:14   rather his actual brother right [TS]

00:39:15   yes he's he's like there to be a plot [TS]

00:39:20   convenience and or impediment as [TS]

00:39:23   necessary and he felt very artificial to [TS]

00:39:26   me [TS]

00:39:26   oh yeah that's my that's my pick for [TS]

00:39:28   round two ok excellent my friend to pick [TS]

00:39:31   is yet another Fox show is not funny but [TS]

00:39:37   it's a sitcom but it's a funny strange [TS]

00:39:39   weird to come i am going to pick the [TS]

00:39:41   tick starring patrick warburton I was on [TS]

00:39:45   my list i wish that oh I wish the show [TS]

00:39:48   it lasted [TS]

00:39:49   so there was the animated tick and then [TS]

00:39:50   they did the live-action tech patrick [TS]

00:39:52   warburton as the tick is fantastic i [TS]

00:39:55   also want to call out Nestor Carbonell [TS]

00:39:57   who would later go on to be lost as [TS]

00:39:59   Batman way [TS]

00:40:00   no such a great character and the show [TS]

00:40:04   was hilarious and and one of the funny [TS]

00:40:06   things about is because it was a sitcom [TS]

00:40:07   and it didn't have a huge budget there [TS]

00:40:10   was a lot of wacky dialogue they were in [TS]

00:40:13   the pilot i think has an action sequence [TS]

00:40:15   in it but basically the action happened [TS]

00:40:18   kind of off-screen they would they would [TS]

00:40:19   say that there was a horrible villain or [TS]

00:40:22   a monster somewhere and then and then [TS]

00:40:23   they go off and you wouldn't really see [TS]

00:40:25   it because that wasn't the point [TS]

00:40:26   this was like Seinfeld with superheroes [TS]

00:40:28   in it and they hung out in a Chinese [TS]

00:40:31   restaurant and you know Arthur is the [TS]

00:40:35   tix roommate the tickets sort of very [TS]

00:40:36   focused on justice and Arthur is an [TS]

00:40:39   accountant is concerned with his his [TS]

00:40:41   life and how they're going to pay their [TS]

00:40:43   bills remember the ground the gifts on [TS]

00:40:45   the first steps in episode christopher [TS]

00:40:47   lloyd talking to Arthur Arthur is moth [TS]

00:40:49   costume at the accountancy and grace [TS]

00:40:53   wants to leave to become a superhero [TS]

00:40:54   christopher lloyd says remember what [TS]

00:40:56   happened Johnson and they cut to the [TS]

00:40:57   scene of another account dressed in [TS]

00:40:59   superhero outfit being beaten up right [TS]

00:41:02   from the rice and that was that was the [TS]

00:41:03   the thing that was always great about [TS]

00:41:05   the tick in in in comic book form and [TS]

00:41:08   and TV forum as an animated show and [TS]

00:41:10   then as a live-action show is just very [TS]

00:41:12   funny you know using all the superhero [TS]

00:41:16   kind of references and you know the cast [TS]

00:41:19   was great there writing was great [TS]

00:41:20   benefit land who created the tick for [TS]

00:41:23   the comics and has gone on to write for [TS]

00:41:25   a supernatural right down and as well as [TS]

00:41:28   just an elaborate out he's a he's a [TS]

00:41:32   local guy actually I'm because the take [TS]

00:41:34   was published through New England comic [TS]

00:41:35   righteous one of our local comic scenes [TS]

00:41:37   when I was growing up so I actually have [TS]

00:41:38   several of the original 19 years of the [TS]

00:41:41   of the comic which only the comic only [TS]

00:41:42   ran like 13 issues it was canceled [TS]

00:41:45   before its time so it's it's it's yeah [TS]

00:41:48   it's a great show and it lasted again I [TS]

00:41:49   think 10 to 10 12 episodes and and barry [TS]

00:41:53   sonnenfeld i think was behind that like [TS]

00:41:55   like he was a producer on Pushing [TS]

00:41:56   Daisies i'm not mistaken and it said [TS]

00:41:58   that same super stylized kind of look [TS]

00:42:01   but on a comedy it was wacky and I I [TS]

00:42:04   miss it I i will go back and watch those [TS]

00:42:06   episodes again and it died too soon that [TS]

00:42:09   was a that was just a fantastic show [TS]

00:42:11   so the tickets my pic you remember the [TS]

00:42:14   the the line that been like had is like [TS]

00:42:16   when they were negotiating the rights [TS]

00:42:17   for the anime TV show his lawyer so I [TS]

00:42:20   keep something back and they're like oh [TS]

00:42:21   let's keep the live-action writes back [TS]

00:42:23   haha [TS]

00:42:25   and who knew who knew yeah so we're [TS]

00:42:29   going to shift into the lightning round [TS]

00:42:30   now because we're gonna run out of time [TS]

00:42:32   otherwise so in this third round I want [TS]

00:42:34   you to give me the name and a brief [TS]

00:42:36   synopsis and we're gonna blast through [TS]

00:42:38   another couple of rounds before we go so [TS]

00:42:40   Scott McNulty all my ex pic Qwik that I [TS]

00:42:44   the pressure is too much better off ted [TS]

00:42:47   is and why was that you know I always do [TS]

00:42:51   yes so it the this is a half hour should [TS]

00:42:54   come two seasons that followed the [TS]

00:42:56   adventures of a J Harrington's character [TS]

00:43:00   Ted crisp in as they worked in a giant [TS]

00:43:03   company called Veridian dynamics it and [TS]

00:43:06   i think one of the best aspects of the [TS]

00:43:07   show I mean it was you know high jinks [TS]

00:43:09   and and surreal things happening because [TS]

00:43:12   they have these two scientists that [TS]

00:43:14   create you know meatless meat and things [TS]

00:43:16   like that but they also had Veridian [TS]

00:43:20   dynamics commercials that would so they [TS]

00:43:23   would go to commercial and you'd be [TS]

00:43:25   watching regular commercials and then [TS]

00:43:26   they go back to the show but the show [TS]

00:43:28   with this the segment of the show would [TS]

00:43:29   start with a Veridian dynamics [TS]

00:43:31   commercial which looked exactly like a [TS]

00:43:34   commercial for like GE Energy has these [TS]

00:43:36   commercials about wind turbine were all [TS]

00:43:38   these better [TS]

00:43:39   exactly it's over tibet in this [TS]

00:43:41   commercial you watching it be you know [TS]

00:43:43   for the first 10 seconds very believable [TS]

00:43:45   and then they you know talk about I [TS]

00:43:48   don't know protecting the world from [TS]

00:43:50   alien overlords or you know we make wind [TS]

00:43:54   turbines and train engines and cows will [TS]

00:43:57   not cows because no one makes cow stupid [TS]

00:43:59   and things like that so that's my pic [TS]

00:44:02   all right [TS]

00:44:03   read your turn right and that quick [TS]

00:44:05   alright Clone High what's good yeah good [TS]

00:44:09   Nick I've never heard of that time I yes [TS]

00:44:12   very short-lived animation series which [TS]

00:44:15   admittedly i've only so hold a like [TS]

00:44:17   Abraham Lincoln is a clone high school [TS]

00:44:19   it's a it's a high school and early [TS]

00:44:21   probably [TS]

00:44:21   cyclones and things people and on MTV [TS]

00:44:24   about about 10 years ago [TS]

00:44:26   it's hilarious created by the guy wrote [TS]

00:44:30   scrubs bill lawrence excellent [TS]

00:44:32   alright come on that's my neck and [TS]

00:44:35   Fleischmann andy richter controls the [TS]

00:44:38   universe anywhere yeah which in which is [TS]

00:44:41   a great little crazy show that i had a [TS]

00:44:45   winning season half I think they're 20 [TS]

00:44:47   episode something like that in any [TS]

00:44:48   record plays a guy working at a company [TS]

00:44:51   that's making military equipment like [TS]

00:44:53   torpedoes and things which they have [TS]

00:44:55   this written is written by the same guy [TS]

00:44:56   friends headed ya better of ted is [TS]

00:44:59   basically andy richter controls the [TS]

00:45:00   universe without andy richter right so [TS]

00:45:02   it has little fantasies in his head it's [TS]

00:45:04   not Herman's head but he has little [TS]

00:45:06   hilarious very surreal things in his [TS]

00:45:08   head he walks through the halls of this [TS]

00:45:10   old company in which he talks the [TS]

00:45:12   long-dead founder of the firm is a [TS]

00:45:14   horrible bigoted racist sexist pig and [TS]

00:45:17   there's a nice little thing is it's like [TS]

00:45:19   crazy serial stuff in a very nice little [TS]

00:45:21   compact cast and full of a surprising [TS]

00:45:24   things and beautifully paget Brewster is [TS]

00:45:27   fantastic and now that she's fast she's [TS]

00:45:29   a crackerjack it's funny because she's [TS]

00:45:31   very funny in that everything else I've [TS]

00:45:32   seen her in I've never liked her very [TS]

00:45:34   much but in that she's like a total [TS]

00:45:35   crackerjack 1940 style comedian dan [TS]

00:45:39   moore and lightning [TS]

00:45:40   alright I'm going to pick a british show [TS]

00:45:42   that aired for six episodes please do [TS]

00:45:44   not confuse it with the terrible movie [TS]

00:45:46   of the same name which is in no way [TS]

00:45:48   related to show is called ultraviolet [TS]

00:45:50   ultraviolet is kind of an understated [TS]

00:45:53   vampire show starring jack davenport [TS]

00:45:55   from coupling on idris elba who would go [TS]

00:45:58   on to be in the wire and a number of [TS]

00:46:00   other things an excellent six episodes [TS]

00:46:03   it's all about just this you know this [TS]

00:46:04   British sort of agency government agency [TS]

00:46:06   that hunts vampires and it's got some [TS]

00:46:09   legitimately creepy episodes it also [TS]

00:46:11   actually leave my favorite thing about [TS]

00:46:13   this is that his best friend [TS]

00:46:15   the main character best friend who gets [TS]

00:46:17   turned into a vampire was this little [TS]

00:46:19   known actor who then went on to be a in [TS]

00:46:22   a show called True Blood playing a [TS]

00:46:24   vampire but is it's excellent [TS]

00:46:29   unfortunately ends with sort of a [TS]

00:46:30   cliffhanger results most of the stuff in [TS]

00:46:32   the first season [TS]

00:46:33   but is it is quite good and there's at [TS]

00:46:35   least one scene i believe it's an [TS]

00:46:37   episode 5 with the jury sailboat that [TS]

00:46:38   just like we'll have you on the edge of [TS]

00:46:40   your seat [TS]

00:46:41   it's so good dramatically so highly [TS]

00:46:43   recommended if you can find it it's [TS]

00:46:46   fantastic [TS]

00:46:47   alright my pic cases is for lightning [TS]

00:46:50   round is Cupid the ABC hour-long drama [TS]

00:46:54   tea from the 90 starting jeremy piven [TS]

00:46:56   little Marshall lasted 12 episode set in [TS]

00:46:59   Chicago he may be crazy he may actually [TS]

00:47:04   be Cupid sent down from Mount Olympus [TS]

00:47:07   for some sort of crime he claims to be [TS]

00:47:10   Cupid and that he needs to match a [TS]

00:47:12   hundred true love's together before he [TS]

00:47:15   can return to Mount Olympus and stop [TS]

00:47:17   being human and she and Paul Marshall is [TS]

00:47:19   a psychologist who is assigned to his [TS]

00:47:23   case because they think he's crazy and [TS]

00:47:27   yet so it's this romantic comedy premise [TS]

00:47:31   and yet it's also got this wacky science [TS]

00:47:33   fictional or fantasy premise of Jeremy [TS]

00:47:37   print Piven who sort of has powers but [TS]

00:47:39   you never really quite know whether he [TS]

00:47:41   really does or not they've danced that [TS]

00:47:43   line really finely ground it's actually [TS]

00:47:45   by the the center is rob thomas did [TS]

00:47:48   Veronica Mars indicate they attempted to [TS]

00:47:51   bring it they didn't react and it was [TS]

00:47:52   terror like three episodes i like that [TS]

00:47:55   show too I don't think anyone else has [TS]

00:47:56   ever seen it felt like it was very [TS]

00:47:57   underwater all cupid it was very under [TS]

00:48:00   watched and yet you know you go on the [TS]

00:48:02   internet cancellation you can go on the [TS]

00:48:05   internet and download these incredibly [TS]

00:48:06   low quality versions of the episodes i [TS]

00:48:08   hope it comes out on DVD sometime but [TS]

00:48:10   i'm not really encouraged because rob [TS]

00:48:11   thomas claims that he actually bought [TS]

00:48:13   his copies on the on ebay hey to get [TS]

00:48:16   copies of it on DVD from someone who is [TS]

00:48:19   he and Jesse James Ryan fully should [TS]

00:48:21   make a show [TS]

00:48:21   seriously it'll get canceled network was [TS]

00:48:23   invaded they have negative episodes some [TS]

00:48:25   a man from the network would come in rip [TS]

00:48:27   the scripts out of their hands while [TS]

00:48:29   they were writing it and tear it up [TS]

00:48:31   that's how it would happen they should [TS]

00:48:32   just go to kickstarter and they could [TS]

00:48:33   fund episode that's all anyway Cupid [TS]

00:48:36   good i cannot say enough about how great [TS]

00:48:39   that show was as a it's kind of a [TS]

00:48:40   romantic comedy with a great edge to it [TS]

00:48:43   because of the relationship between [TS]

00:48:44   those two actors between [TS]

00:48:46   jeremy piven and Paul Marshall so Cupid [TS]

00:48:49   all right up now with our since you all [TS]

00:48:52   have list i thought we would go around [TS]

00:48:54   again but this time you all have still [TS]

00:48:59   have shows on your list right yeah [TS]

00:49:00   oh yes ok so this time we're going to do [TS]

00:49:02   a couple a couple final rounds where you [TS]

00:49:04   have to just say the name of the show [TS]

00:49:05   and the rest of us will just react [TS]

00:49:08   oh man nobly and Rhaegar and we'll see [TS]

00:49:11   how this is so Scott McDonnell t can ask [TS]

00:49:13   you questions to what we need well then [TS]

00:49:15   i have i think the perfect shot for this [TS]

00:49:16   John from Cincinnati did everybody hate [TS]

00:49:20   that show [TS]

00:49:21   exactly that's what was canceled this [TS]

00:49:25   especially this is the show that that [TS]

00:49:27   day that david milch made instead of [TS]

00:49:29   doing more seasons of Deadwood [TS]

00:49:31   ah yes and it was a surfer Jesus maybe [TS]

00:49:35   he's got maybe he's maybe he's not who [TS]

00:49:37   knows nobody knows what I watched the [TS]

00:49:38   whole thing i liked it i have no idea [TS]

00:49:40   what happened to it [TS]

00:49:41   ok alright then uh Caprica really yeah i [TS]

00:49:50   say that i'm not having seen battlestar [TS]

00:49:52   galactica Caprica Caprica slow at first [TS]

00:49:57   and then the last five episodes are so [TS]

00:49:59   amazing that I'm very angry didn't get a [TS]

00:50:01   second season the first episodes were [TS]

00:50:04   horrible [TS]

00:50:05   yeah they were slow they weren't they [TS]

00:50:08   were worse than slow anything about it [TS]

00:50:09   was not good but i will agree with you [TS]

00:50:12   the last I was in the last three [TS]

00:50:13   episodes fantastic huh [TS]

00:50:15   I should go back and watch those that [TS]

00:50:17   glamming after the itis a Eureka is in [TS]

00:50:22   campus yet agency i just got canceled [TS]

00:50:24   like antes ago it's been instances it [TS]

00:50:27   had it didn't two full seasons of all [TS]

00:50:29   the no it's not it's not the best in the [TS]

00:50:32   world but it had a lot of charm to that [TS]

00:50:34   was surprised how much I would go back [TS]

00:50:35   and watch it because it had Joe Morton [TS]

00:50:38   it who I love and I could watch Joe [TS]

00:50:40   Morton standard a blank screen for 30 [TS]

00:50:42   minutes and he do that in Terminator 2 [TS]

00:50:44   you're pretty good match [TS]

00:50:45   alright Dan Morgan I'm gonna chisel heat [TS]

00:50:49   vision and Jack are you gonna show you [TS]

00:50:52   that we have everything there [TS]

00:50:54   canceled I mean technically i cancel [TS]

00:50:58   right never [TS]

00:50:59   even aired the pilot that picked up the [TS]

00:51:01   pilot for that is amazed is Liz it's [TS]

00:51:04   hilarious it's a man in the world [TS]

00:51:05   opportunity for its advantages talking [TS]

00:51:07   motorcycle the man is Jack Black [TS]

00:51:09   he's an astronaut he's super smart but [TS]

00:51:11   only when the sun is up and oh my gob [TS]

00:51:14   and it's mike is motorcycles voice by [TS]

00:51:16   owen wilson been getting your hands on [TS]

00:51:18   the pilot you find the pilot its holder [TS]

00:51:21   wrote and directed and directed it yes [TS]

00:51:23   we should check which surprises me like [TS]

00:51:26   why would know what like all those [TS]

00:51:27   people were very very popular at that [TS]

00:51:29   time I'm surprised that no one was like [TS]

00:51:31   yeah someone will watch this [TS]

00:51:34   yeah but still very funny ok funny i [TS]

00:51:37   will say freaks and geeks the chest [TS]

00:51:43   CJ Apatow great cast a pall yeah Paul [TS]

00:51:47   Feig to was involved in that great show [TS]

00:51:50   one season sort of the perfect season [TS]

00:51:53   I'm not sure whether the second season [TS]

00:51:54   would have been able to match up but [TS]

00:51:56   that first season is a thing of [TS]

00:51:58   perfection and it you can watch it and [TS]

00:52:00   don't have any sharp objects nearby when [TS]

00:52:03   you watch these episodes because they [TS]

00:52:04   are both wonderful and horribly painful [TS]

00:52:07   to watch because it's so true was using [TS]

00:52:11   a reddish show Rachel dungeons and [TS]

00:52:12   dragons the greatest Dungeons and [TS]

00:52:14   Dragons seen in any in any any show ever [TS]

00:52:18   and i think it's-- dandy episode is [TS]

00:52:20   pretty good Yeah Yeah right so [TS]

00:52:21   undeclared is the one claimed you were [TS]

00:52:23   thinking of communication I'd like it [TS]

00:52:24   was great but James Franco as Carlos the [TS]

00:52:27   dwarf in the last episode of freaks and [TS]

00:52:31   geeks I love it I love it so I miss it I [TS]

00:52:34   wish it was still yeah I cast that it [TS]

00:52:36   gave us many many well-known family had [TS]

00:52:38   a single and Medicare traigo indifferent [TS]

00:52:41   about Seth Rogen yeah throwin exactly [TS]

00:52:44   one more round [TS]

00:52:46   Scott I i will go with the lone gunman [TS]

00:52:50   oh it's on my list [TS]

00:52:52   that's not my list i well I liked it [TS]

00:52:55   Scott I thought it was funny [TS]

00:52:57   I don't know it was i I was forced to [TS]

00:52:59   watch the x-files which I didn't I mean [TS]

00:53:01   I liked but I didn't love it [TS]

00:53:04   I was the girl I was going out with in [TS]

00:53:05   college was a big x-files fan so i watch [TS]

00:53:08   the x-files and the episodes i loved [TS]

00:53:10   were the ones that had the lone gunman [TS]

00:53:11   in it and then they got their own [TS]

00:53:14   serious i was six publisher 12 as guys [TS]

00:53:17   like everything from crew members who [TS]

00:53:19   got recruited into the shoddy work love [TS]

00:53:21   that and they were all just exactly who [TS]

00:53:23   they were i love that all right rim and [TS]

00:53:26   since you cheated Jason we have to [TS]

00:53:28   mention arrested development because [TS]

00:53:30   what do you mean Jude well with freaks [TS]

00:53:32   and geeks freaks and geeks is McGee show [TS]

00:53:34   additional ok fine [TS]

00:53:36   it's in the title but you can do it but [TS]

00:53:39   I've arrested development covers the [TS]

00:53:41   gamut on geeky and nerdy and crazies [TS]

00:53:43   gotta finish remember it does have a [TS]

00:53:45   magician and George Michael so there [TS]

00:53:47   yes and Jeffrey Tambor who has been one [TS]

00:53:49   of the show's dimension so there's a [TS]

00:53:51   connection with Max Headroom connect yes [TS]

00:53:53   but arrested development it's great [TS]

00:53:55   there will be a movie made eventually [TS]

00:53:56   someday maybe if we want to reach [TS]

00:53:58   michael was 15 years old by Jason to sit [TS]

00:54:01   still going on today [TS]

00:54:02   shake ya you'd say that great show [TS]

00:54:06   yep any of that show Glenn Greg the [TS]

00:54:09   bunny mom tees Seth Green right yeah it [TS]

00:54:13   was and extend uh Eugene Levy I'm sorry [TS]

00:54:17   who played such grandfather up its [TS]

00:54:19   filthy mouth puppets bring the body is [TS]

00:54:22   Petey was as it was the Muppets were [TS]

00:54:24   sort of living creatures among us from a [TS]

00:54:26   exile from some far-off land it was [TS]

00:54:28   hilarious incredible friend Sarah Sarah [TS]

00:54:31   Silverman and sort of a straight role [TS]

00:54:33   and she was sort of a straight woman in [TS]

00:54:34   that amazingly enough [TS]

00:54:35   alright Greg the bunny that was a fox [TS]

00:54:37   show to lasting sorry I damn or I'm [TS]

00:54:41   stuck with that would have a list of [TS]

00:54:43   things that are like cancelled in great [TS]

00:54:45   but I don't want to like but are out of [TS]

00:54:47   the genre so I'm gonna go with something [TS]

00:54:48   that was a ok no no do something good [TS]

00:54:51   looking good that's not not geeky yeah I [TS]

00:54:54   levski that's fine right now for example [TS]

00:54:56   in that case in point out terriers [TS]

00:54:58   ya hear [TS]

00:54:59   is ok which was with my favorite of last [TS]

00:55:02   year they got canceled I blame you Dan [TS]

00:55:03   for making me watch it and there was [TS]

00:55:04   cancelled it was so good though it was a [TS]

00:55:08   great 13-episode rap besides say it was [TS]

00:55:11   a great show didn't really do anything [TS]

00:55:13   it is that was a good show and the theme [TS]

00:55:17   song was great and my first selection is [TS]

00:55:20   now and again [TS]

00:55:23   anybody remember that no Eric clothes [TS]

00:55:25   and oh who wasn't market Colin maybe and [TS]

00:55:30   it was it's it's the show where John [TS]

00:55:33   Goodman is hit by a subway train but [TS]

00:55:37   government scientists retrieved his [TS]

00:55:39   brain and implanted in the body of a [TS]

00:55:42   genetically engineered super man Dennis [TS]

00:55:46   Haysbert is the scientist who has [TS]

00:55:48   created the generally genetically [TS]

00:55:49   enhanced Superman and uh and their [TS]

00:55:53   closest the the body of these big hits [TS]

00:55:56   the air closes the body with John [TS]

00:55:57   Goodman's brain it basically so anyway [TS]

00:56:00   John Goodman or heir clothes hehe wants [TS]

00:56:02   to go home to his family his his wife [TS]

00:56:05   and kids but the government they think [TS]

00:56:08   he's dead and the government doesn't [TS]

00:56:12   want to let him leave because he's just [TS]

00:56:13   sort of a test subject and it's actually [TS]

00:56:15   kind of an action superhero show with [TS]

00:56:18   this other kind of romantic element [TS]

00:56:20   because he's trying to he could see his [TS]

00:56:22   wife sometimes but he can't say who he [TS]

00:56:24   is [TS]

00:56:24   great show ends on a cliffhanger where [TS]

00:56:27   he basically goes to their house takes [TS]

00:56:29   his family and they run away and the [TS]

00:56:31   show never came back [TS]

00:56:32   but great show so the show ran away no [TS]

00:56:35   did rather effective room and I was [TS]

00:56:37   going Gordon Karen who created [TS]

00:56:38   moonlighting and then went on to create [TS]

00:56:40   not the ghost whisperer the other one [TS]

00:56:42   medium medium mentally in fact just [TS]

00:56:45   pitched API so yeah so a show like [TS]

00:56:48   medium which I found to be kind of [TS]

00:56:49   mediocre and not any good luck runs for [TS]

00:56:51   like a billion years but now and again [TS]

00:56:53   which was unique and really cool like [TS]

00:56:55   lasted for one season [TS]

00:56:56   I don't understand to network now [TS]

00:56:58   welcome to television Jason I watched a [TS]

00:56:59   lot of medium because my wife really [TS]

00:57:01   liked videos and I think we should just [TS]

00:57:03   call the mediocre it's no good [TS]

00:57:05   it's no good but speaking of my wife she [TS]

00:57:07   did what I told her the topic of this [TS]

00:57:09   podcast is she demanded that i mentioned [TS]

00:57:11   my so-called life [TS]

00:57:12   of course mentioning myself like okay [TS]

00:57:15   we're gonna stop it there [TS]

00:57:16   we've given you food for thought so I [TS]

00:57:19   think we've learned a lot about shows [TS]

00:57:21   that died before their time I thought [TS]

00:57:22   this was a lot of fun [TS]

00:57:23   I so I want to thank again the [TS]

00:57:25   participants in the in the draft Scott [TS]

00:57:28   McNulty I think you drafted well I think [TS]

00:57:30   you're your team is solid [TS]

00:57:31   thank you i tried my best serenity [TS]

00:57:35   Caldwell you did excellent work as well [TS]

00:57:37   as a very nice selection much more [TS]

00:57:39   varied than Scott who kept going back to [TS]

00:57:41   bryan fuller well he took all my Bryan [TS]

00:57:43   Fuller so i had to be more creative [TS]

00:57:45   Scott's team name is the bryan fuller [TS]

00:57:47   eens Glenn thank you very much you were [TS]

00:57:50   obscure and you do you look at and [TS]

00:57:53   better yet you brought you drop shows [TS]

00:57:55   that that from the past like me and so [TS]

00:57:58   then I didn't feel as old thank you for [TS]

00:58:00   the all shows from the blue from the [TS]

00:58:03   deep past time deep the Twin Peaks [TS]

00:58:05   panels are living tools to 10 very I [TS]

00:58:08   Love Lucy could have got many more oh oh [TS]

00:58:11   honey motors there were any episodes [TS]

00:58:13   about honey but I miss jack benny yeah i [TS]

00:58:17   miss check then let's bring him back [TS]

00:58:19   he's still like 39 [TS]

00:58:21   that's right after 39 forever third and [TS]

00:58:23   I said that's a terrible story by the [TS]

00:58:25   way if you go to the mall don't go into [TS]

00:58:27   forever 30 that's why it's overpriced [TS]

00:58:31   grumpy [TS]

00:58:34   dad more'n thank you for your long long [TS]

00:58:38   list of exactly [TS]

00:58:39   sadly my team will make it halfway [TS]

00:58:41   through the season and enclose yes yes [TS]

00:58:43   they'll be asked to leave that we asked [TS]

00:58:45   to leave [TS]

00:58:46   yes the fantasy and cancel TV show [TS]

00:58:48   League ends after 12 besides never seen [TS]

00:58:51   everyone could have a plan i don't know [TS]

00:58:52   who wins I get to the movie [TS]

00:58:54   no nobody wins nobody on a blog post [TS]

00:58:57   afterwards that says you to read the [TS]

00:58:59   comic yes explain tunnel [TS]

00:59:01   all right on the enough silliness until [TS]

00:59:05   next time or until we're cancelled [TS]

00:59:07   releases the income travelpod can ask [TS]

00:59:10   jason still thanks for listening [TS]

00:59:18   [Music] [TS]

00:59:28   always go with the eyebrows [TS]

00:59:30   from Ghostbusters and ghostbusters from [TS]

00:59:33   eugene levy I'm sorry who played [TS]

00:59:35   sunscreens father died but I got your [TS]

00:59:39   breath the guy who's not recommending [TS]

00:59:41   the guy without the eyebrows would be [TS]

00:59:42   more identifying I think he's the guy [TS]

00:59:45   with the eye / house he had hair and [TS]

00:59:47   features [TS]

00:59:52   I confess never having seen it i [TS]

00:59:54   remember the commercial me to even [TS]

00:59:56   remember the commercials [TS]

00:59:57   I like spooky Ohio better remember the [TS]

00:59:59   reaping [TS]

00:59:59   reaping [TS]

01:00:00   an initial letters creepy Iowa that [TS]

01:00:02   stuck with me today saying that is this [TS]

01:00:04   just something i did in my head or was [TS]

01:00:06   the theme song to that Gary Indiana but [TS]

01:00:08   with fury in it [TS]

01:00:10   I don't remember because that's what [TS]

01:00:12   please in my head in the end I think we [TS]

01:00:16   have had absolutely yeah yeah [TS]

01:00:18   yes that's a little creepy but yeah I [TS]

01:00:20   think the worst part of the show though [TS]

01:00:22   is that they did they made a sequel [TS]

01:00:24   season except they made it only in [TS]

01:00:25   canada and it wasn't your young adario [TS]

01:00:28   you don't substandard eerie manitoba [TS]

01:00:32   your monitor reminded towba ya decide [TS]

01:00:38   hear you say e this is why we have no [TS]

01:00:43   comedian listenership I don't know why [TS]

01:00:46   I'm on this God if I were half canadian [TS]

01:00:48   I'd be offended [TS]

01:00:49   it's the our google analytics map shows [TS]

01:00:51   a big black space for candidates i [TS]

01:00:53   understand that yes my relatives can [TS]

01:00:55   never let into the show because they [TS]

01:00:57   don't have the internet for Kennedy used [TS]

01:00:58   to be glad Internet in general [TS]

01:01:01   yeah because whatever they needed for [TS]

01:01:03   caribou place p conversion hate you all [TS]