55: If a Show Never Airs, Can It Be Cancelled?
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uncomfortable podcast over 55
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September's plenty
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it's time for another edition of the
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uncomfortable today we're going to be
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talking about television but we're gonna
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do something a little different we are
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going to hold the draft for those of you
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who do not follow the sports draft is
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when for example football teams will
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pick players from college football
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we'll take turns one of the time they'll
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they'll take a pic you can't pick the
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same player twice only one team gets
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each player what we're going to do here
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is we're gonna pick cancelled TV shows
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and the premise hit is pick your
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favorite brilliant but cancelled TV
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shows so it should be a trip down memory
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lane a painful trip about shows that
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died too soon
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joining me to take this trail of tears
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are my panelists Dan Morgan hello hi
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jason this is a big z relational this is
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really emotional from hey whoa
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but we're not comparing sizes of list
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but my head's at least like it doesn't
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i'm sure keen sure 2075 I don't have a
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big fan of failure so I mean I know it's
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paused failure my entire life as Scott
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will tell you got Mykelti as as just
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referenced is also here hi Scott
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hello I i only watch television for the
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articles excellent also here is Glenn
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fleischmann hello are you watching
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television
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I no longer but i only watch shows that
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I believe will be cancelled good that it
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saves time that way
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that's right and serenity Caldwell hello
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hello all of my shows get cancelled its
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IDs I'm sensing a theme here this this
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may just be a a podcast of shows we
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watch so it really doesn't remember a
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time before there was television no wait
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a minute or cancellation shows yes my
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day shows went on forever until that the
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cast members died and they just fill
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their bodies they did 700 episodes of
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season and then like it and they loved
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alright so we are going to begin the
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draft and I imagine that there will be
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some shows that will go quickly so once
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they're taken you can't take them with
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your choice get everybody just assumed
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that everybody else is going to pick
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fireflies and I just thought you should
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we just site Firefly and spot it
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saying like number one is firefly but
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and none of us are gonna pick it I think
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it kind of goes without saying that
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everybody knows that Joss Whedon's sci
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fi Western e thing firefly got cancelled
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way too soon and was really quite good
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and it died young and left a beautiful
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but you know like somebody wants to
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wants to pick it we can do that but
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otherwise i'm willing to just put it up
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on the board let's let's take it as read
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was it not on anybody's let's do it was
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not on my list because i do not like it
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but times i'm an online you always gonna
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be sky-high no yeah anything anybody's
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yeah I assumed everybody else but Scott
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would pick it will see their Scott you
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get firefly i will likely to firefly on
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the board you know we talked about it
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before in previous podcast what so so
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what can you say about it was great it's
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too bad that didn't get it got like it
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didn't get 13 episodes did it didn't air
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13 episode they made they made 13 I
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believe all right now although when all
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is said and done but it did not err all
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of them
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we're going to start with Scott McNulty
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know because the first pick in the
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brilliant but canceled draft not sure
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how I got the first pick but I am
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honestly thought you were wearing you
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there was a lottery and Scott as the
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lowest-scoring and I don't know what I
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just did a reverse lunge auction
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yes i'm going to pick my then you know
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this the the the draft format put a
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little pressure on so I'm gonna have to
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pick my favorite won first place so that
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no one else gets it which would be
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pushing daisies 0 crossing it off my
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yeah mine to do I i win I've done heard
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I should sign off pushing daisies a link
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two seasons on ABC created by Bryan
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Fuller i'm reading the wikipedia entry
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right now even like the show anymore
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I've never seated I just I knew dad
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liked it so I picked it
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Mykelti about the pie maker and he
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touches people and they and they come
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back to life briefly exactly but it yes
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so he is the pie makers essential
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character he has this power where he
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someone are
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dead thing if you touch a dead thing it
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comes back to life for a minute I think
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I and but if they are alive for a minute
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and then if it touches them again they
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die so if he touches the person again
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before the minutes elapsed is that they
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die permanently and he can't bring the
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back if they stay alive longer than a
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minute something else nearby dies to
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compensate and kind of you know balance
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the universe opposed and so it starts he
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finds out he has this power because his
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mother dies he touches her cheek
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infected life I his next morning and he
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doesn't know about the whole minute rule
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so that his next-door neighbor's a
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father dies because his mother has been
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resurrected and it's very sad because at
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the end of that night his mother toxin
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into bed kisses him on the forehead and
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dice again so bad but by kind of darkly
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funny kitten that I think things up the
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the whole show as sad but darkly funny
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and and so ends the brilliant Joe and
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the first time I saw it its kind of its
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it's whimsical and it's surreal and the
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first episode that i watched ice after
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the end of it I thought I enjoy that
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show and it will be cancelled so I was
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quite i was excited that I got a second
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season at the very least I believe that
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was during the other writers strike
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right somehow they ended up with a short
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season and then they got back for a
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second season and then that because of
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the strike in the time off the ratings
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weren't as good so it died and not to be
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brought back to life
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no yeah the the sad thing about pushing
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daisies is that the first you know ten
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episodes that were aired had really high
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ratings and ABC was very very buoyant
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about the shower is like look Bryan
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Fuller made a show that's not going to
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get cancelled and then the writers
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strike happened although to beaten to be
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fair i watched the first season of
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pushing daisies and i liked it i always
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when I saw the pilot I was really
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worried that it was going to be kind of
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overly I don't know just the super
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saturated colors and the narrator and it
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seemed like it was maybe going to be too
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much but I never I never thought it got
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to be too much in that first season when
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it came back to the second season I i
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watched the first I think episode or two
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and I thought oh that did not like this
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show and it just didn't work
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me I don't know whether it was just that
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it was worse or whether the spell was
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broken but that second season I i gave
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up is so I never even watched the whole
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second season
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that's a shame it's not i mean i would
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say it's probably not as good as the
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first season but it's still very good
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and it's better than a lot of was on air
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and plus I mean it's kind of a kind of
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you now because now you have like good
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television that's left that you'll never
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walk through just waiting around for
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Eddie Caldwell you get the second pic oh
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ok so Dan Martin will take all my shows
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so I'm actually going to go for a show
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that I don't even know if he's watched
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yet which is kings which is actually
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fairly my list haha
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mm-hmm and they're all night doing
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anyway or Indiana and what you get for
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having a picklist in so kings is a
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unique kind of thing in that it was only
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about 13 episodes and as it is it could
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stand alone as a 13-episode miniseries
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but the premise and the weary like the
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way it went
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made it so great is basically a show a
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modern-day David and Goliath in an
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alternate reality universe where
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religion was still very big but it's but
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it's not you know it's it's not a
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religion heavy show in the way that you
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watch it you're like oh this is touched
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by an angel or anything like that it's
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it's very intricate it's kind of like
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when i was first pitching it to people i
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call it as an intersection between the
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west wing and you know even in a way
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Star Wars just it's it's it's not
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necessarily so it's not necessarily
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sci-fi per se but it's it's fascinating
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it was it was such a fun show to watch
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and the way they ended the 13th episode
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it made you just go I want to see more
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I want to see more why is there not more
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and it was of course terribly low rated
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because because NBC did not pitch it at
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all the way they should have so that is
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my pic it was a difficult to pitch I
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mean what I agree with you that they it
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it's very much a political drama in many
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ways which is a hard it's a harsh on
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route 22 short takeoff and especially
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because it's the sci-fi elements that
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were very very subtle
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I mean it's just that it was you know it
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was more fantastic maybe I mean it's not
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set in our universe but it has a lot of
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the trappings of our universe
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it said that you know there's a there's
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this war between these two countries and
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its kind of loosely like you know based
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on as read the Old Testament but it's
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really well done it's got a fantastic
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Cassian machine is taking antacids yeah
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he is a lot of other like character
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actor show up in secondary roles Dylan
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bakers in there
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macaulay culkin shows up Macaulay
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Culkin's Sebastian Stan lately seen in
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captain america as Bucky Barnes plays
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the sort of stuck up prints and brian
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cox is Abaddon is great
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yes it's an ex it's extremely well done
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i know i was not sure that it would take
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off but having you know i also watched
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all of it and thought every time i watch
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the episodes of this show it's really
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good but it's no one's watching it it
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was good it looked good and I love the
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fact that it's the I just thought the
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idea that it's basically like an
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American city like New York I mean it's
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not but it's like that except it's a
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kingdom and so you've got this you know
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really interesting kind of smashing
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together of of all these different ideas
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and you're right i think political drama
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set in and in a you know sort of like
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fantasy universe that's not not our own
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world kind of a hard sell right because
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even the people who might be interested
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in it from a West Wing kind of
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perspective then they get there they're
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like what he's a king where is this is
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this made-up United III don't know if
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the general audience we go for it and it
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enables things that I hate to say but i
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to explain to people why they should
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oh yeah it's so too many things are
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yes America way and it aired on sunday
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about has butterflies three butterflies
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you like their world aside everything
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doesn't we all live love butterflies all
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right with the third pick in the
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cancelled TV show draft Glenn
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fleischmann i am going to pick a flawed
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show that I really liked defying gravity
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who nobody else's list is not on my list
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interesting watching I never saw it is
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and it was the as with many television
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shows that
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cancel their science fiction and
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canceled the network did everything it
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could to confuse people by showing
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things out of order it was shot in HD
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which in HD in Canada they didn't show a
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couple episodes and show them late and
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whatever and you know there's some
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hackney parts to it but the idea is that
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for what seemed to be you know this
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plausible reasons and the it's someone
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the future but not crazy like decades in
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the future when science has advanced
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well but not ridiculously so we're not
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living in some you know arthur c clarke
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future it's like what we have now very
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very recently I thought pushed in the
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future and you know some improved
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nuclear reactor technology and they've
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developed a multi-stage spaceship that
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can do a grand tour of the plants are
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going to all seven planets I believe
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besides earth i think it was already
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been demoted in this universe and it
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gradually emerges that it's not it's not
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like warp drives and crap like that it's
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gonna take a long time it's going to
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take eight seven or eight years i think
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in the context of the show which is a
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nice arc for a multi-season drama and
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apparently they plotted out the pretty
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good outline of the entire you know what
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the Ark of the show was going to be
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because they had the planets to hang us
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all off of and the idea was you know
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that the soon-to-be this perfectly
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science-driven thing in the corporate
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sponsorship for it and the astronauts
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gonna shoot some ads it was very clever
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but beneath the surface it turned out
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there was a reed completely ulterior
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motive that there were some alien force
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not a force for bad but a force that was
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beyond explanation and ridiculously
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powerful that was driving the mission
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almost by implication by misdirection
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and there's a grand conspiracy but not
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to do evil it was just confusing so as
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the show the first season evolved very
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complicated relationships to go through
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astronaut training which seemed very
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serious it seem like the kind of thing
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you would have in real astronaut
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training with your washing out accidents
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that cause someone to get off the
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mission and so forth and a very
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complicated and rich show with deep
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characters and actors i really like like
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Ron Livingston from office space was on
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it i love and then from oh what's the
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what's the show which the girl is dead
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it's another show with someone is dead
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that like me dead like me there is an
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actress who was on that show as an
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extremely annoying character and her
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name is which one was she
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our Harris yes I very annoying on that
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show lovely on this show
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beautiful woman and complex relations
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complex things happen and so it went for
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they managed to get through i think 13
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and just 13 episodes I think and I don't
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even know if the 13th was aired in the
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US it was an extremely expensive show to
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produce clearly a must have cost
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millions of dollars in episode and I
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can't see how they could never have made
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it cost-effective lots of CGI lots of
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separate interiors and very interesting
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to find gravity also on my list and once
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again the first time episode i saw i
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thought they're going to cancel this
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immediately because a it's well-written
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and b is way too expensive to be a
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science fiction show on a regular react
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that was exactly what that's it
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co-produced in with canadian TV LCD TV
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and ABC did it so they thought they
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could raise enough money to do it but I
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think it just didn't catch on it was
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cerebral there was some real science in
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it was geeky it was too much like an
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advanced version of reality instead of
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something that was totally fantastically
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driven with fake science nobody will
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believe that there are Canadian
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astronauts with that they were American
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yeah they're worth they're worth one
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point two American astronauts and that
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is the network ABC it was on ABC and
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they moved it around so you have to
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figure out you had said you know get
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like your astrolabe to figure out where
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and when the show was going to be there
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to only when the International Space
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Station was passing overhead exactly
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streamed directly bounced off the
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station to your television set and and
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likely headed out of order and the worst
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possible thing they cancelled it which
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is fine you know cancel it but they did
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not err the last episode that was always
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your hands did not add ok that's just
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everything they always they always do
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that and it's so irritating it's like
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you're not going to use this for
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anything else sometimes the studio that
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has the has the show asks that if shows
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going to be cancelled they leave
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episodes not aired so that when they
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inevitably out an ad they can have
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unaired episodes another dinner they did
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last upsetting in
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canada yeah they've done it for stuff
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two words like its net Big Show is never
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coming out on the right we have 13
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episodes it but it was it was so it was
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really beautiful in a way that you know
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what's nice is the fellow who wrote the
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series showrunner I think and believe
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the same guy who wrote directed he was
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too good things about sorry boy here he
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revealed the rest of the plot like he's
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like as never coming back so here's what
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the next seven years would have been
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like and didn't give away all the
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secrets because some of them and figured
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out but give a rough outline like okay
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that's actually really satisfying
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because I kind of wanted to know and I
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would never know it's possible novelized
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there's something that's a good story
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and the other thing is this great little
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bit which is that there's a guy plays a
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TV reporter in it who is the is a really
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aggressive nasty british tabloid TV
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reporter who's trying to figure out all
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the details and hanging around there all
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the time sorting it out and he's in fact
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the director of sliding doors and I
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don't know what is directing credits
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like how he became an actor also laura
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is primarily after that the only movie
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director don't forget
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alright we are going to move onto our
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our fourth pick of the first round of
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the cancelled TV draft and of course
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that will be dan moore and Dan go for it
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I i have to also pick I think my
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favorite among all these shows or at
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least one that I just it pains me that
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they didn't continue it and that is a
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short-lived one season 13 episode show
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that aired on of all networks ABC family
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called the middle middle middle and oh
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it's one of the best shows to air in the
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last year's and like nobody saw it it's
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okay so basically the premise of it is
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that in some ways it's kind of a little
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bit like an American doctor who it's
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about this guy
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the middleman who is charged by a
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mysterious agency to sort of deal with
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all the weird the things that go bump in
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the night the aliens vampires zombies
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you know everything that you've you've
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read about in comic books and in science
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fiction is real and the shows the first
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episode starts off with him recruiting
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this young woman Wendy Watson to become
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his apprentice sidekick what-have-you
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companion
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at the she's a little more active than
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your average companion but what's great
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about the show is that it's all Maj to
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like all these other science fiction
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classics there are a number of doctor
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who jokes there are no jokes about Star
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Trek there are jokes about pretty much
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any science fiction you can imagine
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there are there are sort of global
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decides to comic books all of this it's
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a wonderful show that it's just it's
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it's totally over-the-top and can't be
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but the writing is so good that i just
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rewatched the entire thing recently and
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I've forgotten how how much it makes me
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laugh out loud it's just there's
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something about it that perfectly tweets
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my sense of humor and every episode kind
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of takes on a different genre so i'll
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have you know that the alien abduction
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episode and the zombie episode the ghost
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episode and i'll have like jokes to
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things that are reference to that Ghost
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episode has all these jokes to
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Ghostbusters including like the fake
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names of the characters use and it's
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it's just such a wonderful show and the
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unfortunately the its left with sort of
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a cliffhanger episode at the end there
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although that was resolved in a graphic
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novel they made a graphic novel
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13-episode to sort of tie up some of the
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plot lines though not all of them and
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just all in all a great show but it was
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on a weird network it was on it i think
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friday nights or something it has a you
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know a cast that nobody's ever heard of
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and I think of unfortunately had a lot
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going against it but it was amazing that
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it got made in the first place and that
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they made 13 episodes so i highly
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recommend that if you have not already
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seen the middleman you check it out
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alright yeah i love the middleman that's
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a great great show there's nothing
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there's nothing not to like about it
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you're right it is like Doctor Who in
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the sense that it is a family-friendly
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fun it's not particularly dark it's not
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particularly liked it you know it's it's
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got violence but it sort of fantastical
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and silly and every episode has a
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Wilhelm screen and it's not like that
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tells you later we're expecting they're
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always they're always hit there might
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just be off you know slightly off screen
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but um and just great some great cameos
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and guest stars i particularly love ya
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Kevin Sorbo kevin sorbo as a previous
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middleman and I know they're doing that
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no but my favorite episode i think
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perhaps of all of them is the vampire
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episode which involves vampire puppets
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yes the thing i recently watched the
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middle and the thing that really sort of
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makes it for me is the dialogue where
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they just managed to play around the
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word place so much and especially
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because the shows on ABC family it's
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all-american guy and so he's always
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saying like phooey and kali gee-whiz but
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person but you know the sidekick
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yeah there's a couple scenes where she
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swears her head off but they bleep it
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swearing you know covered up as it might
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be in in a show on a family network
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well it's kind of like yes we know this
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actually happens so we're not going to
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really disguise it except for the fact
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that were required to all right i am for
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my pick in the first round of the draft
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here to close out the first round I'm
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gonna go way back to the delightful
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decade of the nineteen eighties and you
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all know what's coming
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it aired I think 12 episodes and also
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have an unaired episode because that's
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what they do the 12-episode wonder that
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is my beloved max headroom oh yes so max
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headroom mid-eighties that free whereas
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Edison Carter and matt and Max Headroom
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Amanda pace looking about as lovely as
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any woman has ever looked in any TV show
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as his controller the the hacker who
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runs his uh his connection to the
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internet basically fiora and is that why
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are fewer is called peora it is indeed
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actually my on your Escalade or s4
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theory Jones for maximum eq and they
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work at Network 23 the producer is
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Jeffrey Tambor to play his name is Marie
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on the show and it is if you go back I
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mean it is it is dated it was from the
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eighties but so many things that that
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show has to say about media mass media
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journalism TV news
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even even things like politics and and
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privacy and security and computer
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security have all come true
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it's kind of amazing at the time it
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seemed kind of visionary but also a
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little bit of a knockoff of a lame get
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some kind of neuromancer thing but I'm
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telling you there are so many things
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that got right and so many smart things
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that had to say about about mass media
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while being a network TV show which is
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just kind of amazing to me a lot of fun
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for a show that that I think when it
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started to come on the air
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everybody just assumed it would be
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something kind of silly and ridiculous
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because it features this you know this
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computer-generated except not actually
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head who makes jokes and his encode
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commercials and yet it turns out that
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it's actually this media satire about
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these people who are our reporters for a
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TV network that is slightly into the
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future 20 minutes into the future as the
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show says last well last two very short
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seasons the ratings were started out ok
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went too bad I don't even know why i got
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renewed but it did and then they they
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put a stop to it midway through the
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second season but love love love max
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headroom one of my favorite shows of all
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time and it is just came out on DVD and
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it's a crying shame that they didn't
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make more oh well I should say Morgan
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Shepherd whose in everything is blank
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reg in max headroom which is a great
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character he's got a mohawk and he he's
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a very cory doctorow s kinda figure he's
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a UH he's blanked all of his personal
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information and isn't in the system
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anymore because he doesn't want to be
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tracked by the by the man so Max
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Headroom is my pick because it had to be
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you kids weren't alive when Max Headroom
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was on but I'm telling you he's writing
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to be honest i only remember from the
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commercial yeah so i recommend i mean
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even though it even though it is
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definitely an artifact of the eighties
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there's a lot of smart stuff that it
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says so
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so check out the dvds of Max Headroom
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now that they're finally available after
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like 20 years in limbo while they argued
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over the rights to it
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ok we'll move on to the second round
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Scott what's your second selection my
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second selection is
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it's tough i have two half-hour shows
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that i want to pick and I don't know
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what I'm gonna pick the one that I think
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less people have seen wonderfalls
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anybody o amor Bryan Fuller yeah that's
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all right choices on my list whether you
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so wonderful is a fantastic brief the
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short-lived show about a kind of a
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stereotypical nineties a slacker kind of
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went to college graduated moved back to
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her hometown of Niagara in New York and
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works at a gift shop by the Niagara
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Falls you know Paul's think the
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waterfall
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ok you may have heard of it I added is
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suddenly inanimate objects start talking
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to her and giving her cryptic things
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that you think she's going crazy but the
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inanimate objects are actually giving
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her clues to help people and it's it's
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it's a wonderful show and lasted 13
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episodes and features the pieman as a
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her brother lipe yes of which 44 aired
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for he said and has my favorite I think
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my favorite theme song of any show about
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us I brought that on itunes look after
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next you see right now it is yes it's a
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fantastic excellent and very much my
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wife crazy listening to it over time as
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I cry and watch episodes of wonder why
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the one
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no that's it that's an awesome show it
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was ya again another show that is so
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bizarre in its premise that it's seems
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like it's doomed to failure and well it
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was but it was it was so well done and
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so well written i agree so delightful
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serenity Caldwell you're up what's your
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second selection
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oh god all right to my second selection
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is a show that I actually haven't seen
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some time but it stands out so vividly
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on me from my childhood that I have to
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mention it which is eerie indiana which
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was a 19 episode show that aired first
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on NBC in the very early nineties which
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is where i remember seeing most of it
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and on Fox and late nineties and kind of
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syndicated after-school television which
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i think when i saw it again and actually
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remembered it and it's basically the
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premise is this kid moves to eerie
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indiana with his parents and quickly
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discovers the town is in fact pretty
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eerie and he meets up with this kid and
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together they basically basically try
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and solve these very weird things that
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happen in the town like they find
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tupperware that allows anything to stay
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alive forever so it's forever where and
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like rabid dogs and things like that it
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was the premise was you know fairly
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typical kids find weird things that are
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semi supernatural nature but the writing
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was very funny and I just like the
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picture of the show lasted for me years
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after i saw to the point where I hadn't
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seen you know I haven't really watched
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the show since they aired in you know 91
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90 97 and then i was reading AV Club for
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something and they had a retrospective
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on one of the area Anna eerie indiana
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episode which is like parallel universe
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eerie indiana and as i was reading I was
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like all right this show was amazing and
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i had to stop like I was halfway through
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the article i had to stop i had to find
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it online and had to rewatch that
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episode because it's just it's one of
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those things that's in the back of your
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head and you don't really realize that
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it's affected you until someone says hey
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you remember that show and you're like
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yes this affected my entire childhood so
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it's great glen fleischmann it's your
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what what obscure show will you talk
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about now Quinn peaks are ya na these
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Peaks you know that was watched in
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college would get around gather around
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the old coal fire television set and
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watch we have some cherry pie and watch
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26 so you know it's I think the show for
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those people who are unaware sit
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permitted popular culture is david lynch
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it was a was part of the David Lynch
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subconscious that he's unleashed on to
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us and many of his films and watered
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down for television to be somewhat less
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disturbing although exceeding stripping
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it was a soap right so we sort of david
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lynch's sensibility combined with that
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kind of you know Dallas dynasty kind of
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soapy element which is such a weird
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combination
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yeah it was ever talked about a lot of
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us on this podcast like shows that take
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somewhat more ordinary situations and
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combine them with with surreal elements
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and good writing so you know they're
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there to I believe twin peaks is on for
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two seasons and select right and the
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first season had a story arc that was
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similar so that the confusing thing
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about it is you know you open up with
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this young woman has died this teenagers
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died and no one knows why and it seems
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like there must be some kind of crazy
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murderer and as it develops more the
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realize or supernatural elements at work
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that terrible things are you know a deep
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forces that are beyond the scope of
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anyone can are in this little town
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centre there and the story centers
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around al kooper DB cooper of course who
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comes to town to from the FBI to
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investigate the case and then winds up
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practically moving in together I'll kyle
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maclachlan and the role of the lifetime
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real Portland man typically convoluted
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showing so that the thing that was
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confusing at twin peaks of course is
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that they made a two-hour movie that was
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that kind of the pilot with a rather
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ordinary creepy ending to it that was
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shown in Europe if i recollect the
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original 18 the pilot they shot an
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ending for it in case it didn't get
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picked up and that was shown to Europe
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though when you're up to like David
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Lynch aficionados as if it was a david
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lynch Phil right so in the in the TV
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series was much more complicated
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involved you know people being possessed
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and midgets dancing and all usually the
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sign up some midgets and all the usual
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paraphernalia did but but it was
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fascinated with something you want and
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you don't think it was the lost of its
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day that you couldn't figure out what's
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going on normal you sure that anyone
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could there are things that are
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presented with were so confusing that
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they're supposed to be like a dream
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state you weren't sure there was an
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answer so the first season but more or
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less follow the Ark of the movie and
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you're you find out who killed Laura
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Palmer although it's rather disturbing
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and confusing and not a resolution all
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in the second season fuck you know what
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goes into this plot involving Dale
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Cooper former partner the FBI who is
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somehow super mystical and really crazy
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and killed the love of dill Cooper's
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life so and it the show ended like David
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Lynch new the service is ending and so
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the last episode is
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yeah well and totally unsatisfied also
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guess which is one so you know I missed
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have this error on broadcast television
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amateurs heather graham and a sherilyn
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oh god what was I have another city lara
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flynn boyle orphan boil right Peggy
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Lipton is a collector now John Chen who
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did more later piper laurie was one of
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her great later rolls wise great flavor
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wise the fellow who was in all the David
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Lynch movie they died a number of years
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ago now always that fellow's name who's
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a put a crazy role in this movie like he
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always did it lead guy in eraserhead was
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in a trust and Raven yeah Russ Tamblyn
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two people in this in twin peaks were in
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the the movie of West Side Story the
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original movie of that side gallery
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richard beymer and and rust and so it's
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very a very interesting cast great cast
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can David and David Duchovny as a
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cross-dressing FBI agent a couple years
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before the x-files that's right that's
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right the at Twin Peaks great show it
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the second season was uneven although it
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didn't go off a cliff quite as much as I
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think some people remember it now I
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think they made it was kind of a mess
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but there were some great episodes in
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there and even though you always have to
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ask the question what would that third
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season have been like boy I i just i
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remember watching that last episode and
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isn't coming back because it was just so
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interesting and weird and compelling and
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my favorite thing in the whole show is
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Don Davis who was later on Stargate as
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general Hammond he was a he was the dad
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of the football hero and he was a he was
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like in the military and the line that
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gives me the chills even now as he
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leaned in to Dale Cooper and eat whisper
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the Owls are not what they seem
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oh and over time the suggestion was that
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like the owls were
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temptation of like aliens or demons or
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something really weird and supernatural
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and it was the crazy show that was the
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average alright the colonel occurrence
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role and he was running out what they
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thought was an observatory listening to
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a space astronomy is great
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yeah pointing the way they're pointing
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the it to the ground and looking at that
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bound the earth this and also might put
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a Don Davis then had a wreck
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essentially the same role with salinas
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weirdest in X Files playing the the
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presently and dad
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yes Kelly's dad was instead of the
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colonel he was Admiral or something
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yeah so rent Dan Scott did you ever even
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see twin peaks i have i've never seen
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two peaks though i'll have to admit I do
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watch if you've ever seen the show psych
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they did a twin peaks episode called
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dual spires which is all involves like
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seven of the cast members from twin
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peaks and it was very like bizarre its
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whole area i mean even if you don't
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there's a lot of stuff apparently
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there's a whole wikipedia entry on this
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is like the only episode of psych that
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gets its own entire weekend I need to
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point out to this is one of these things
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that it was a cultural phenomenon this
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is what's weird about twin peaks is the
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first I'm hearing about it people were
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freaked out in the whole like before
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this was before the internet was before
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any kind of mass communication i don't
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know if you remember this before any
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kind of mass communication that besides
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media I people would watch in labor they
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would go to diners because there's a
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diner that figures and people would go
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to diners and watch to show in the diet
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and other phases this whole plot who
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killed Laura Palmer was like an
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international phenomenon for a year and
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it's like oh I'm not going to spoil it
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killed her and then went to the second
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season people like well that's over and
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it was like it's like the who shot mr.
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burns thing like landing it's been like
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20 years are we not we're not going to
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spoil who killed Laura Palmer it's been
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20 years father did but he was best buy
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but he was possessed by killer Bob a
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decent can jump between from body to
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body so it wasn't actually her father
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after all
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in other words the boys from
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Supernatural needed to his name is Bob
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we lived over what you call a
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convenience store
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yes sorry just call back okay me
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yeah little scary and Dan Morgan it's
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your turn I'm frightened
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help i'm extremely frightened let's make
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something a little less frightening
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I'm gonna go out with a short-lived NBC
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series about time travel because I'm
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trail is a journey man its journey male
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chorus it's Jenny man journey man was a
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show basically about this
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this guy just do in San Francisco pisa
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he's a dude he's a journalist and I'm
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traveling your journey man general but I
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mean basically he becomes you know sort
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of unstuck in time yes to take reminders
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I'm yeah and so he travels back to
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certain periods in history and he ends
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up you know as the series progresses you
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start to realize that he's going to
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places that have there's some meaning
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there's some underlying pattern to the
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to the people and that he meets when
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he's traveling through time in the
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places that he goes and and well it sort
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of started out kind of kind of blindly I
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was like any that sounds mildly
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interesting i watched answer to and I
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think I ended up watching out most of it
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on hulu at the time but I'm what was
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sort of struck me with that as the show
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goes on
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I think they go in some really
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interesting directions with it in
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particular i'm remembering an episode in
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which he leaves something in the past
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that then changes the future but the way
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it changes his present is in some ways
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very it'sit's major but it's also kind
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of like it's not like oh my god now
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we've got flying cars which is about to
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basically to spoil it
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he has a he has a son i believe in the
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indeed in his own universe and so he
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could leave something future end it
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the chain of events that sets off
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through chaos theory you know sort of
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ends up with his son was not conceived
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that day so he you know he he added they
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had a child conceived on another day and
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ends up being a daughter but what super
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creepy about this episode is that his
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wife in the you know alternate timeline
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that's created who knows everything
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about his time traveling like all that
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is still consistent like realizes what
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he's going to do and is like fighting
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him tooth and nail on this because it's
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like it's her daughter it's like heard
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the only child that she knows and that
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it was extremely
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kind of affecting creepy as an episode
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when it made you actually think about
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well he doesn't know this this child at
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all despite the fact that you know he's
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her father and all he wants is to get
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his son back but like you know his wife
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has no memory of their son and is very
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fixated on this and I think those those
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interesting drawing of conclusions
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really fascinated me and as the show go
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on you also realize there are there are
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some there's at least one additional
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time travel right around and there's
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also potentially there's the scientists
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who knows more than he's letting on
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right and this is where it got
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frustrating when they canceled after a
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season because they had set up all these
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plot lines and it started to really kick
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into gear with this on with this this
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character arc and then you know that was
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and so we never found out why he was
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traveling through time or what made him
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travel through time or whatever and so I
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think it was an excellent show though I
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really it really got to me after a while
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and of course you know i'm sure Jason
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will tear the geography to shred since
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it's a lovely San Francisco wasn't bad
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actually the geography wasn't bad at all
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III didn't
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the only thing I didn't like about it
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was the was read dymond from homicide as
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the who is he was Mike Kellerman cop on
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the edge on homicide and here he was his
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brother-in-law cop on the edge and i
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didn't i didn't like that character at
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all he was like mr. I thought it was
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rather his actual brother right
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yes he's he's like there to be a plot
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convenience and or impediment as
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necessary and he felt very artificial to
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oh yeah that's my that's my pick for
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round two ok excellent my friend to pick
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is yet another Fox show is not funny but
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it's a sitcom but it's a funny strange
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weird to come i am going to pick the
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tick starring patrick warburton I was on
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my list i wish that oh I wish the show
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it lasted
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so there was the animated tick and then
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they did the live-action tech patrick
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warburton as the tick is fantastic i
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also want to call out Nestor Carbonell
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who would later go on to be lost as
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Batman way
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no such a great character and the show
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was hilarious and and one of the funny
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things about is because it was a sitcom
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was a lot of wacky dialogue they were in
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the pilot i think has an action sequence
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in it but basically the action happened
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kind of off-screen they would they would
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say that there was a horrible villain or
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a monster somewhere and then and then
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they go off and you wouldn't really see
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it because that wasn't the point
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this was like Seinfeld with superheroes
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in it and they hung out in a Chinese
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restaurant and you know Arthur is the
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tix roommate the tickets sort of very
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focused on justice and Arthur is an
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accountant is concerned with his his
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life and how they're going to pay their
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bills remember the ground the gifts on
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the first steps in episode christopher
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lloyd talking to Arthur Arthur is moth
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costume at the accountancy and grace
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wants to leave to become a superhero
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christopher lloyd says remember what
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happened Johnson and they cut to the
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scene of another account dressed in
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superhero outfit being beaten up right
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from the rice and that was that was the
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the thing that was always great about
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the tick in in in comic book form and
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and TV forum as an animated show and
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then as a live-action show is just very
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funny you know using all the superhero
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kind of references and you know the cast
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was great there writing was great
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benefit land who created the tick for
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the comics and has gone on to write for
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local guy actually I'm because the take
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was published through New England comic
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righteous one of our local comic scenes
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when I was growing up so I actually have
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several of the original 19 years of the
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of the comic which only the comic only
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ran like 13 issues it was canceled
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before its time so it's it's it's yeah
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it's a great show and it lasted again I
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think 10 to 10 12 episodes and and barry
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sonnenfeld i think was behind that like
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like he was a producer on Pushing
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Daisies i'm not mistaken and it said
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that same super stylized kind of look
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but on a comedy it was wacky and I I
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miss it I i will go back and watch those
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episodes again and it died too soon that
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was a that was just a fantastic show
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so the tickets my pic you remember the
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the the line that been like had is like
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when they were negotiating the rights
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for the anime TV show his lawyer so I
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keep something back and they're like oh
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let's keep the live-action writes back
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and who knew who knew yeah so we're
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going to shift into the lightning round
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now because we're gonna run out of time
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otherwise so in this third round I want
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you to give me the name and a brief
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synopsis and we're gonna blast through
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another couple of rounds before we go so
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Scott McNulty all my ex pic Qwik that I
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the pressure is too much better off ted
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is and why was that you know I always do
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yes so it the this is a half hour should
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come two seasons that followed the
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adventures of a J Harrington's character
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Ted crisp in as they worked in a giant
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company called Veridian dynamics it and
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i think one of the best aspects of the
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show I mean it was you know high jinks
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and and surreal things happening because
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they have these two scientists that
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create you know meatless meat and things
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like that but they also had Veridian
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dynamics commercials that would so they
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would go to commercial and you'd be
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watching regular commercials and then
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they go back to the show but the show
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with this the segment of the show would
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start with a Veridian dynamics
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commercial which looked exactly like a
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commercial for like GE Energy has these
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commercials about wind turbine were all
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these better
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exactly it's over tibet in this
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commercial you watching it be you know
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for the first 10 seconds very believable
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and then they you know talk about I
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don't know protecting the world from
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alien overlords or you know we make wind
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turbines and train engines and cows will
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not cows because no one makes cow stupid
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and things like that so that's my pic
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all right
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read your turn right and that quick
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alright Clone High what's good yeah good
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Nick I've never heard of that time I yes
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very short-lived animation series which
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admittedly i've only so hold a like
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Abraham Lincoln is a clone high school
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it's a it's a high school and early
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probably
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cyclones and things people and on MTV
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about about 10 years ago
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it's hilarious created by the guy wrote
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scrubs bill lawrence excellent
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alright come on that's my neck and
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Fleischmann andy richter controls the
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universe anywhere yeah which in which is
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a great little crazy show that i had a
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winning season half I think they're 20
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episode something like that in any
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record plays a guy working at a company
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that's making military equipment like
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torpedoes and things which they have
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this written is written by the same guy
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friends headed ya better of ted is
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basically andy richter controls the
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universe without andy richter right so
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it has little fantasies in his head it's
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not Herman's head but he has little
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hilarious very surreal things in his
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head he walks through the halls of this
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old company in which he talks the
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long-dead founder of the firm is a
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horrible bigoted racist sexist pig and
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there's a nice little thing is it's like
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crazy serial stuff in a very nice little
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compact cast and full of a surprising
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things and beautifully paget Brewster is
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fantastic and now that she's fast she's
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a crackerjack it's funny because she's
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very funny in that everything else I've
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seen her in I've never liked her very
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much but in that she's like a total
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crackerjack 1940 style comedian dan
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moore and lightning
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alright I'm going to pick a british show
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that aired for six episodes please do
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not confuse it with the terrible movie
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of the same name which is in no way
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related to show is called ultraviolet
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ultraviolet is kind of an understated
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vampire show starring jack davenport
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from coupling on idris elba who would go
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on to be in the wire and a number of
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other things an excellent six episodes
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it's all about just this you know this
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British sort of agency government agency
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that hunts vampires and it's got some
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legitimately creepy episodes it also
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actually leave my favorite thing about
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this is that his best friend
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the main character best friend who gets
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turned into a vampire was this little
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known actor who then went on to be a in
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a show called True Blood playing a
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vampire but is it's excellent
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unfortunately ends with sort of a
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cliffhanger results most of the stuff in
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the first season
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but is it is quite good and there's at
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least one scene i believe it's an
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episode 5 with the jury sailboat that
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just like we'll have you on the edge of
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your seat
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it's so good dramatically so highly
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recommended if you can find it it's
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fantastic
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alright my pic cases is for lightning
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round is Cupid the ABC hour-long drama
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tea from the 90 starting jeremy piven
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little Marshall lasted 12 episode set in
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Chicago he may be crazy he may actually
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be Cupid sent down from Mount Olympus
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for some sort of crime he claims to be
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Cupid and that he needs to match a
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hundred true love's together before he
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can return to Mount Olympus and stop
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being human and she and Paul Marshall is
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a psychologist who is assigned to his
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case because they think he's crazy and
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yet so it's this romantic comedy premise
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and yet it's also got this wacky science
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fictional or fantasy premise of Jeremy
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print Piven who sort of has powers but
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you never really quite know whether he
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really does or not they've danced that
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line really finely ground it's actually
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by the the center is rob thomas did
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Veronica Mars indicate they attempted to
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bring it they didn't react and it was
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terror like three episodes i like that
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show too I don't think anyone else has
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ever seen it felt like it was very
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underwater all cupid it was very under
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watched and yet you know you go on the
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internet cancellation you can go on the
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internet and download these incredibly
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low quality versions of the episodes i
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hope it comes out on DVD sometime but
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i'm not really encouraged because rob
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thomas claims that he actually bought
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his copies on the on ebay hey to get
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copies of it on DVD from someone who is
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he and Jesse James Ryan fully should
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make a show
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seriously it'll get canceled network was
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invaded they have negative episodes some
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a man from the network would come in rip
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the scripts out of their hands while
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they were writing it and tear it up
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that's how it would happen they should
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just go to kickstarter and they could
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fund episode that's all anyway Cupid
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good i cannot say enough about how great
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that show was as a it's kind of a
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romantic comedy with a great edge to it
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because of the relationship between
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those two actors between
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jeremy piven and Paul Marshall so Cupid
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all right up now with our since you all
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have list i thought we would go around
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again but this time you all have still
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have shows on your list right yeah
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oh yes ok so this time we're going to do
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a couple a couple final rounds where you
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have to just say the name of the show
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and the rest of us will just react
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oh man nobly and Rhaegar and we'll see
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how this is so Scott McDonnell t can ask
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you questions to what we need well then
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i have i think the perfect shot for this
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John from Cincinnati did everybody hate
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that show
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exactly that's what was canceled this
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especially this is the show that that
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day that david milch made instead of
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doing more seasons of Deadwood
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ah yes and it was a surfer Jesus maybe
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he's got maybe he's maybe he's not who
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knows nobody knows what I watched the
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whole thing i liked it i have no idea
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what happened to it
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ok alright then uh Caprica really yeah i
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say that i'm not having seen battlestar
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galactica Caprica Caprica slow at first
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and then the last five episodes are so
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amazing that I'm very angry didn't get a
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second season the first episodes were
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horrible
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yeah they were slow they weren't they
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were worse than slow anything about it
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was not good but i will agree with you
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the last I was in the last three
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episodes fantastic huh
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I should go back and watch those that
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glamming after the itis a Eureka is in
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campus yet agency i just got canceled
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like antes ago it's been instances it
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had it didn't two full seasons of all
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the no it's not it's not the best in the
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world but it had a lot of charm to that
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was surprised how much I would go back
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and watch it because it had Joe Morton
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it who I love and I could watch Joe
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Morton standard a blank screen for 30
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minutes and he do that in Terminator 2
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you're pretty good match
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alright Dan Morgan I'm gonna chisel heat
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vision and Jack are you gonna show you
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that we have everything there
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canceled I mean technically i cancel
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right never
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even aired the pilot that picked up the
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pilot for that is amazed is Liz it's
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hilarious it's a man in the world
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opportunity for its advantages talking
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motorcycle the man is Jack Black
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he's an astronaut he's super smart but
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only when the sun is up and oh my gob
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and it's mike is motorcycles voice by
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owen wilson been getting your hands on
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the pilot you find the pilot its holder
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wrote and directed and directed it yes
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we should check which surprises me like
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why would know what like all those
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people were very very popular at that
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time I'm surprised that no one was like
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yeah someone will watch this
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yeah but still very funny ok funny i
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will say freaks and geeks the chest
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CJ Apatow great cast a pall yeah Paul
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Feig to was involved in that great show
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one season sort of the perfect season
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I'm not sure whether the second season
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would have been able to match up but
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that first season is a thing of
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perfection and it you can watch it and
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don't have any sharp objects nearby when
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that's not my list i well I liked it
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Scott I thought it was funny
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the x-files and the episodes i loved
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were the ones that had the lone gunman
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serious i was six publisher 12 as guys
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like everything from crew members who
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since you cheated Jason we have to
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mention arrested development because
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what do you mean Jude well with freaks
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additional ok fine
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it's in the title but you can do it but
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I've arrested development covers the
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gamut on geeky and nerdy and crazies
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gotta finish remember it does have a
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magician and George Michael so there
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yes and Jeffrey Tambor who has been one
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of the show's dimension so there's a
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connection with Max Headroom connect yes
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but arrested development it's great
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there will be a movie made eventually
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someday maybe if we want to reach
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michael was 15 years old by Jason to sit
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still going on today
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shake ya you'd say that great show
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yep any of that show Glenn Greg the
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bunny mom tees Seth Green right yeah it
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was and extend uh Eugene Levy I'm sorry
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who played such grandfather up its
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filthy mouth puppets bring the body is
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Petey was as it was the Muppets were
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sort of living creatures among us from a
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exile from some far-off land it was
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hilarious incredible friend Sarah Sarah
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and she was sort of a straight woman in
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that amazingly enough
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alright Greg the bunny that was a fox
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show to lasting sorry I damn or I'm
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stuck with that would have a list of
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things that are like cancelled in great
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but I don't want to like but are out of
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the genre so I'm gonna go with something
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that was a ok no no do something good
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looking good that's not not geeky yeah I
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cancelled it was so good though it was a
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great 13-episode rap besides say it was
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a great show didn't really do anything
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it is that was a good show and the theme
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song was great and my first selection is
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now and again
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anybody remember that no Eric clothes
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it was it's it's the show where John
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government scientists retrieved his
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brain and implanted in the body of a
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genetically engineered super man Dennis
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created the generally genetically
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the air closes the body with John
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Goodman's brain it basically so anyway
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John Goodman or heir clothes hehe wants
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to go home to his family his his wife
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and kids but the government they think
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he's dead and the government doesn't
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want to let him leave because he's just
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sort of a test subject and it's actually
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kind of an action superhero show with
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this other kind of romantic element
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because he's trying to he could see his
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wife sometimes but he can't say who he
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great show ends on a cliffhanger where
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he basically goes to their house takes
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his family and they run away and the
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show never came back
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but great show so the show ran away no
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did rather effective room and I was
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going Gordon Karen who created
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moonlighting and then went on to create
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not the ghost whisperer the other one
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medium medium mentally in fact just
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pitched API so yeah so a show like
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medium which I found to be kind of
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mediocre and not any good luck runs for
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like a billion years but now and again
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which was unique and really cool like
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lasted for one season
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I don't understand to network now
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welcome to television Jason I watched a
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lot of medium because my wife really
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liked videos and I think we should just
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call the mediocre it's no good
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it's no good but speaking of my wife she
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did what I told her the topic of this
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podcast is she demanded that i mentioned
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my so-called life
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of course mentioning myself like okay
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we're gonna stop it there
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we've given you food for thought so I
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think we've learned a lot about shows
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that died before their time I thought
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this was a lot of fun
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I so I want to thank again the
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participants in the in the draft Scott
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McNulty I think you drafted well I think
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you're your team is solid
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thank you i tried my best serenity
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Caldwell you did excellent work as well
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as a very nice selection much more
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varied than Scott who kept going back to
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bryan fuller well he took all my Bryan
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Fuller so i had to be more creative
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Scott's team name is the bryan fuller
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obscure and you do you look at and
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better yet you brought you drop shows
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that that from the past like me and so
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then I didn't feel as old thank you for
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the all shows from the blue from the
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deep past time deep the Twin Peaks
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panels are living tools to 10 very I
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Love Lucy could have got many more oh oh
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honey motors there were any episodes
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about honey but I miss jack benny yeah i
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miss check then let's bring him back
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he's still like 39
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that's right after 39 forever third and
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I said that's a terrible story by the
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way if you go to the mall don't go into
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forever 30 that's why it's overpriced
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dad more'n thank you for your long long
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list of exactly
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sadly my team will make it halfway
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through the season and enclose yes yes
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they'll be asked to leave that we asked
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to leave
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yes the fantasy and cancel TV show
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League ends after 12 besides never seen
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everyone could have a plan i don't know
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who wins I get to the movie
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no nobody wins nobody on a blog post
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afterwards that says you to read the
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comic yes explain tunnel
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all right on the enough silliness until
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next time or until we're cancelled
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releases the income travelpod can ask
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jason still thanks for listening
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always go with the eyebrows
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from Ghostbusters and ghostbusters from
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eugene levy I'm sorry who played
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sunscreens father died but I got your
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breath the guy who's not recommending
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the guy without the eyebrows would be
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remember the commercial me to even
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remember the commercials
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season except they made it only in
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canada and it wasn't your young adario
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I'd be offended
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understand that yes my relatives can
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never let into the show because they
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don't have the internet for Kennedy used
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to be glad Internet in general
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