00:00:11 ◼ ► we're back on the uncomfortable and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/11">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► is time for the book club or at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/13">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► the literacy club because we might even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/15">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► talk about some things that aren't books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/16">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► I'm Jason style i'm your host i'm joined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/18">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► by the members of the literacy club Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/20">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► Morris here hide am I is glad to be here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/23">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► but I are glad I are glad to be here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/27">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► Jason on and Fleischmann also joins us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/30">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► hi i can recognize at least 20 letters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/34">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► well you gotta work there 10 more miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/37">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► or extra are you working on the vowels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/39">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► i'm working on the right girl you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/41">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► the sniper of Internet podcast comedies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/45">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► wait for it here he comes it's copic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/49">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► I have nothing to say to that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/55">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► the greatest introduction ever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/56">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► wait here it comes that's a jarhead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/60">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► college people would introduce i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/67">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► introduce me to someone and they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/70">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► here Scott he's very funny and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/71">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► would look at me and wait for me to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/74">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► something mr. rubber chicken man except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/77">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► watermelon your hammer my friend tony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/79">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► has a as a default response to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/81">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► which is just go glam makeup pics he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/83">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► yes so anyway we're not talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/89">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► that or are we may be so this is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/92">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► so the number one item on the agenda in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/94">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► novels that were nominated for the hugo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/100">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► award which is given out every year to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/102">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► generally it's sci-fi although there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/104">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► some fantasy stuff that creeps in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/107">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► too and that they did this year there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/108">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► are five nominees for the best novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/110">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► Hugo we have collectively read all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/113">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► them some of us have read some of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/117">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► some of us have not I i read all of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/119">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► i put in the water yeah yeah but aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/121">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► you voting as well Jason I am voting now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/124">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► they're gonna ask my ballot so we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/127">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► going to talk about these novels and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/128">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► we're going to take them in turn and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/130">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► may throw in some short stories and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/132">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► novels that came up as part of the hugo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/134">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► processes well and so five best novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/136">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► nominees i guess i'll just take them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/138">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► order and we can talk about them those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/141">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► who have read them may speak about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/143">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► first one up those who have not read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/145">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► them silence another shot outside and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/147">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► actually I'd love to hear what you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/149">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► to say having not actually read that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/152">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► book is great that would be a new kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/153">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► of podcast we could do this once we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/156">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► haven't read my favorite opinions are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/157">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► uninformed picture no book club blackout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/159">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► and all clear two novels by connie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/163">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► willis you know who is author author of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/165">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► many good novels we talked about before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/168">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► and she's won the hugo award before so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/170">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► two novels it's really one story which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/172">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► is why I was generated to get it i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/174">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► a funny story about that which is I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/176">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► the first book and I got to the like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/177">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► was getting close to the end oh it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/179">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► long book is a big it's a big book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/181">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► i'm getting closer onli and they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/183">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► gonna have to work fast to wrap this up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/185">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► i did not know until I got to the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/187">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► last page that there was a second part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► coming look quite literally they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/191">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► took a novel and cut it yes basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/193">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► shit into books it's yeah it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/195">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► feeling you get when you're 48 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/197">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► realize oh no this is not going to end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/200">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► this is going to be to be continued yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/203">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► yeah so so its second world war two it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/206">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► about time travelers who go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/209">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► study itself in the same universe is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/211">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► say nothing of the dog and domesday book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/212">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► and the domesday book say nothing of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/214">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► dog very funny good book Tuesday book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/217">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► other end of the spectrum that very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/219">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► depressing also very good about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/221">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► black disc this was somewhere in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► middle for me really like it's not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/225">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► got some very serious points right in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/227">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► discussion of you know more time and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/230">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► know the prices people pay but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/234">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► it wasn't as Holy depressing as doomsday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/237">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► book was no there's some there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/240">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► amusing parts and then there's the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/242">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► kind of carrion spirit that's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/244">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► during the Blitz and it really is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/246">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► outlets right i mean that's you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/252">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► these these people from the future who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/254">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► are stuck there but they're they're so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/256">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► mired in real time that they just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/258">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► to live through the Blitz and so you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/261">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► got you know all these sort of slices of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/263">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► life of people going around in London [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/265">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► and out in the countryside and and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/267">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► working for the army during the Blitz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/270">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► and as such it is interesting because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/272">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► impression of the interminable nature of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/275">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► I you know there's so many the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/278">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► the story is arranged narratively you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/281">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► feel like you're undergoing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/283">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► you know if something traumatic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/285">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► catastrophic because it keeps dragging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/286">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► on and we have this sort of plot line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/289">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► for these characters who are stuck in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/290">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► keep thinking oh well we'll be rescued [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/292">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► soon and then it keeps going a lot but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/295">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► one of the funny things happen is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/300">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► sort of these alternating timelines and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/301">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► it's kind of hard to perceive of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/305">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► what's exactly going on that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/307">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► they're telling sort of stories from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/309">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► from earlier in the war and later in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/311">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► war and it turns out you know not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/314">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► I you know we maybe we can avoid the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/319">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► spoiler here but it turns out that some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/321">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► of the characters you see are actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/324">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► it you see in the toward the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/327">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► war or actually characters you've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/330">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► earlier in the war going under assumed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/332">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► names so yeah that was kind of a that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/334">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► did definitely confused me when it when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/337">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► it finally got to be like because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/338">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► start you know very much that you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/340">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► the heads of these three characters are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/342">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► so who are really like you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/343">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► realized okay they're from the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/345">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► historians they're there to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/348">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► research and then there are a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/349">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► chapters thrown in where you're like but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/351">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► who is who is this person like you all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/354">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► the sudden you're not in their head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/356">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► right you just observing them as they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/357">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► strange funny things they also seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/360">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► know things right occasionally that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/362">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► know there's definitely an air and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/364">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► couple of places of like something's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/365">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► quite right with this parade or they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/367">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► you get the sense of foreboding that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/370">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► that something's really wrong and at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/372">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► end of the first book you definitely get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/373">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► the feeling like you know something's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/375">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► gone wrong and having trouble getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/376">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► back to the to the future and it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/377">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► know and that's and that's fine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/382">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► there in the second book I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/383">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► toward the end the you know she she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/385">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► not afraid to put characters in peril [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/387">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► ramifications of of that I i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/392">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► this book ended really well i was almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/395">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► ready to give us it late in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/398">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► book in early in the second book and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/401">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► feel you know we can always talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/402">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► how we could do a podcast about series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/405">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► that disappoint us after the first book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/407">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► this is a book that could be the start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/409">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► cast which is books that needed an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/412">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► editor yes books that needed a freaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/413">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► because this is too huge book it did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/418">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► need to be two books it was not two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/421">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► books were yeah it absolutely non-book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/423">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► really that could have been it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/425">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► have been trimmed down considerably and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/427">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► I understand like I'm saying you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/429">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► think there was a idea of like getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/431">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► across you just how scary and terrifying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/433">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► it was to be stuck with no way out but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/435">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► there were so many there's so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/436">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► arranged like yeah there's so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/438">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► arranged like closed mrs. Wright in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/441">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► cases where they're like oh now these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/444">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► two characters are going to meet up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/446">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► everybody the same town and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/447">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► just miss each other and you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/449">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► actually find each other you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/454">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► some of those crosses are are funny and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/456">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► some of them are are infuriating like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/459">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► stretch things out the thing that got me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/463">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► though that thing that really drove me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/464">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► to almost operating was um you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/466">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► these people are from the future and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/470">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► they're concerned that even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/471">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► everything we've learned in all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/474">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► books about how going back in time is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/475">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► that the universe doesn't allow you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/478">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► change change the timestream that if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/479">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► you were going to do something to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/483">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► time you just won't be able to go there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/484">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► to do it so so you when you're a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/486">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► traveler you want to be careful but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/488">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► can't really change the future and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/490">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► one of these characters in this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/492">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► yeah spends chapter after Chapter after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/494">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► we're all she's thinking is oh I need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/499">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► reach this person I need to tell him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/502">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► this but I can't tell them this because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/503">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► what if he knows this and I can't tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/505">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► and I'm I'm serious hundreds of pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/507">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► ramifications about time travel that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/513">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► almost certainly not true and i just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/516">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► was it was a tricky like it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/520">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► notes as the problem right to hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/522">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► same notes after time after time endless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/524">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► yeah I really did feel like a dragon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/527">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► i agree like there's a great so I tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/529">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► mike should i not tell my co i can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/531">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► does he know does he does he no no he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/534">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► doesn't know but I can't tell them yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/536">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► it got it got a little bit got a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/538">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► bit frustrating and that's one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/540">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► things where it's like it could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/541">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► been there is a good story in here there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/542">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► needed to be shout the the non sci-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/545">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► elements are 50 they fascinate and as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/548">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► historical fiction right it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/551">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► fascinating like this you really get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/553">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► that inside view and the drum at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/555">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► where there are real stakes and kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/558">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► really real sacrifices made toward the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/560">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► end so that they can get home and and or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/562">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► or have their story resolved in some way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/566">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► you know rear end and then there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/569">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► more kind of ships into into not not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/572">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► their home future but you see things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/575">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► sort of in the kind of our present-day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/577">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► where they do some other characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/579">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► travel in there to try and do some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/582">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► research about what happened to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/583">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► because they're trying to find them you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/585">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► know that stuff was great too it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/587">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► that there's that chunk in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/589">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► where it's just let's dwell on the worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/591">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► yeah and I and I think to a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/598">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► degree a lot of this was accomplished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/600">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► better in her previous books to write i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/602">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► agree i mean she covered a lot of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/605">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► ground and to say nothing of the dog in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/606">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► don't domesday book are both excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/608">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► excellent books much better than this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/610">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► one although this has got you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/612">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► a little like a mash-up that's it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/613">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► like those two books mashed-up it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/615">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► then lots of historical stuff about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/617">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► yeah so but yeah perplexing that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/619">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► ended up into books and that there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/622">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► nobody to say you know this should just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/624">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► be shorter it's hard I mean I the ice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/627">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► I imagine that after you you know she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/629">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► fairly accomplished as ray she's written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/631">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► a lot of great books and I think it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/632">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► certain point maybe if you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/633">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► the the editor who's willing to stand up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/634">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► to you you know or a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/636">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► assume all you know she knows what she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/638">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► writers need editors from time to time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/641">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► alright so so that's blackout and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/643">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► clear redeeming redeeming qualities but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/645">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► would that be kind of your site where i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/651">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► would agree i would agree i I'm glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/652">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► that I'm not the only person who felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/654">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► that way because i was like maybe I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/655">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► just not getting it like maybe I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/656">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► not as involved in this is I should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/658">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► but I I there was a lot there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/660">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► couple points that really shine through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/662">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► but if it did feel like that repeated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/663">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► hammering of this point yes we get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/665">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► ok move on third the last third of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/668">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► clear is just amazing it really is when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/672">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► when it comes time to actually resolve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/676">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► page-turner at that point right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/680">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► yeah but it's just you have to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/682">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► through whatever 800 pages of Eileen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/683">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► worrying about whether she should tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/686">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► Mike about that she saw a guy down by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/687">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► it's like wow no much too much too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/691">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► alright so we'll move on our next novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/695">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► is cry burn which is a miles for Kosygin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/698">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► book by lois mcmaster bujold so Dan and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/701">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► scott and i have read crabber and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/705">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► is the you know obviously the latest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/707">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► Vorkosigan saga which we all I think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/712">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► bond and excellent recommendation we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/715">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► read these books and enjoy them and did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/717">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► so Dan as the as the one who's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/720">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► reading this book the longest want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/722">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► give us your take first on on cry i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/723">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► really liked cry Auburn I I don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/726">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► know it's not my favorite in the series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/728">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► but coming on the heels of i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/730">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► was in like 2003 that the last one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/731">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► diplomatic immunity came out and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/733">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► book i thought was an absolute i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/736">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► it was one is probably my least favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/739">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► of the actual books that involve miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/741">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► and this one I thought was wasn't it an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/744">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► interesting setting which is it takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/749">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► place on this world where being frozen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/751">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► in like you know cryogenic storage is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/754">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► like this really you know it's part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► society essentially and and all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/759">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► people get some essentially are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/762">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► you're frozen storage and the company or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► whatever that you've you know that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/766">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► storing you get your votes or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/768">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► you know it's it's it's right so you end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/770">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► up with his corporate kind of grammar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/772">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► it's that use frozen people as political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/774">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► chefs yeah and and so there and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/777">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► intrigue that of course mile gets drawn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/781">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► into I mean we kind of start it starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/783">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► off with this kind of strange like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/786">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► gets kidnapped right and it starts off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/788">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► with him sort of breaking out of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► this kidnapping he befriends this young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/791">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► child sort of street urchin kid and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/794">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► get we get a whole bunch of chapters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/797">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► from this kids point of view which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/798">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► kind of interesting I thought in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/800">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► of having like miles is in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/801">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► interesting character to see through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/805">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► someone else's lens especially when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/806">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► a kid who has this like well there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/809">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► definitely not a child and he seems very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/814">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► straight bitch and I kind of enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/816">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► that i enjoyed some of the character I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/820">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► think some one of the things i like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/822">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► that a lot of its secondary characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/824">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► who could have easily become cookie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/825">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► cutter characters they actually fleshed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/828">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► there's the which is for Lincoln who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/830">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► sort of this the the political guy on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/833">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► the console on the planet or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/835">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► and he he could have very easily been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/836">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► set up as just a straight file like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/839">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► guy you know you're a loose cannon you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/841">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► know but he he actually becomes a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/842">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► sympathetic character and you know takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/845">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► on an interesting sort of a role in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/848">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► response two miles there you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/850">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► are heroic who's kind of his bodyguard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/853">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► I think it's flush out a lot more and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/856">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► quite enjoy his his his chapters that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/857">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► are narrated from his point of view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/861">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► different perspective on this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/863">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► affair and so you know in general I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/864">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► would say it was you know like a solid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/867">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► solid b-plus the ending in particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/869">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► though like you know pumps it up for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/871">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► a little bit like that it because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/874">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► kind of know it's coming but at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/876">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► time if you've been reading the series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/878">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► as long as I have you know it was still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/879">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► heart-wrenching it was a heart-wrenching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/882">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► end so basically you've got you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/883">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► it's kind of a fun adventure and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/886">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► some really clever stuff but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/887">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► when the plot is resolved then they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/891">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► sort of like the payoff of the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/892">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► who've been reading all the books where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/894">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► there's you know sort of secondary thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/895">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► which is major life events for miles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/897">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► his family that only really make sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/900">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► if you've read all the other books and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/903">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► thinking thinking about it gives me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/905">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► goosebumps just in terms of like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/907">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► that that's the story that I you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/908">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► some ways that's the story I really want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/910">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► to read is the thing that comes after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/912">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► this right there is that nice little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/913">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► epilogue where they sort of delve into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/915">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► how several of the characters the majors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/917">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► yeah but it really just that last line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/922">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► in the book because you kind of even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/925">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► like once it hits you i just found it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/929">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► found it very heart-wrenching yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/931">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► but the actual adventure you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/934">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► not my money and yeah there's a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/935">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► like if there's a caper and they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/937">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► go switch bodies out and then solve a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/939">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► mystery of like why is this person than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/941">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► that this is a UH there's like a major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/946">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► coincidence that has to happen where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/949">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► miles happens to escape from being there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/951">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► trying to kill them or whatever and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/954">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► kid happens to find him and it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/956">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► involved in the conspiracy that interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/962">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► miles and that keeps him around you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/965">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► you get it kind of a lot to get there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/967">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► your butt like once they said it once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/970">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► you sort of get past that premise like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/972">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► that that's you know the setup i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/973">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► downhill a little better but I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/977">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► miles being put in with these people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/979">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► are like really poor and they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/981">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► squatters in this old factory because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/982">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► he's so he moves in in big circles right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/984">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► he moves in in in nobility right he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/989">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► he's a one of the privileged class of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/992">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► the galaxy and so could have him be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/995">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► basically like he's got nothing and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/998">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► with these squatters and then when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► finally gets to call on some of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► resources these squatters are like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► wow you know they really appreciate it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► because he has power and these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► are completely powerless and he's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► using his power to get to bring the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► hammer down a little bit yeah and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► like a righteous thing because he you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► know these people have been oppressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► and exploited for so long and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► know he's making trouble on their behalf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► these two being miles on their behalf to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► for their benefit that was a fun take on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► one miles Scott what do you think well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► thought it was fun read but i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► think that it would have been nominated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► for Hugo had the other novels existed if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► that makes sense i mean if they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► exist obviously she wouldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► written this book but taken by itself i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► do not think it's a hugo caliber novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► in given the context of the series you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► know your opinion can change but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► if I were voted for the Hugo's i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► have to look at each novel on its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► and this novel yes I don't think meets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► nominated nothing i would agree that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► definitely books in the series that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► think you know have deserved that more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► that honor more and it's not necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► you know yeah it's fun that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► agree agree with both of you i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► think it's a fun fun read surprised that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► got nominated well i guess not too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► surprised because many miles books have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► been nominated a few of them of one but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► you know yeah it absolutely is not of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► caliber to really be considered like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► best novel of the year just because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► you know I knew not miles novel is fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► and i look forward to the next one but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► you know it was just you know a fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► adventure rump and you know had some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► interesting ideas but yeah that was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► yeah i-i-i thought a lot of it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► I mean everybody yeah you know in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► same time and I think it tickles that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► part of you that likes that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► there's a part of me that read the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► is like all man i see what's government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► and Kyrie I still really enjoy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► did you read the book yet you you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► looking for that kind of thing in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► the miles saga right because your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► character you're comfortable with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► know kind of how he relates with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► world and it's interesting to see him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► kind of screw-up everybody else's plans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► and just kind of you know cause trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► yeah agreed alright so we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► move onto a book that Glen has read part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► of who the Dervish house by eve and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► mcdonald I'd be happy to sever the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► actually stop reading this book and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► honey just ran out of time and time it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► um yes very i mean i look forward to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► it's interesting i think i tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► start it several times and it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► know it's a little of flowery and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► difficult at first I can't quite figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► it's like listening to music in using a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► different chromatic scale than you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► used to your studio used to Western [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► allottees and you listen to something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► you're like I can't quite figure out if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► this is good or noise and it took me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► number of pages to get into it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► I started to fly along and ran out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► alright well Scott and I read the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► um no I you know I thought it was a I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► thought it was really good although it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1197">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► definitely not like super easy light I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► mean like I blew through cry over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► dervish house took more work but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► really liked it Scott what did you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► I am a huge fan of diverse house and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► and uh MacDonald in general he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► someone who I hadn't read until recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► and for some reason I got in my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► that a previous one of his books was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► kind of a prequel to dervish house was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► so i said i have to read the river of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► God's for readers house because it's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► story and they are completely unrelated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► universes both universes being our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► universe but so you don't have to eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► both of them to enjoy this story at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► i don't know what i was thinking but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► what I love about him well I think he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► a great writer and he sets his stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► like Glenn you were talking about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► know different chromatic scale he sets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► his settings are non-western which makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► it very interesting to me because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► an alien culture and yet it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► still humans so in a dervish houses case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► yep in the near future and like what 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► 20-25 minutes the it's it's me rish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► yeah it's great because i have no idea i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► don't know the cultural enough to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► what is actually current behavior I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► know the technology of course but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► don't know what's current behavior and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► what's supposed it feels it feels very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► genuine so even if it's wrong and feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► displacement and a travel log kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► feel to it was like this is cool i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► learning things that may or may not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► true but I'm i feel like i'm learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► things about Turkey and about this sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► of it you know attitude of the Turks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► toured europe and do they face toward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► Europe or do they face away from Europe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► and that's all going on in there which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► which is really interesting and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► there's the whole sci-fi element on top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► of them and the the story of the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► mellah fide man i don't know which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► which is like again i don't know if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► true or not but it's the the somebody he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1317">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► eats honey until he dies and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► put him in a stone casket full of honey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► and they stored away in the ground and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► he turns it's like his body turns into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► honey and then it's supposed to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► have magical healing properties of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► course i love that word i was this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► like well I want to know what that is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► I talk to somebody who is frustrated by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► this book and um because they're stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► yes or near future turkey Nana there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► like nano technology nano technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► startups are happening and and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► investments and there's like gasps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► investors and all this stuff and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► enter these multiple stories and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► eventually converge but it takes a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► time for them to converge and it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► oh and there's the kid who's got his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► robot is nanorobot and the old man who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► used to be like an academic and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► connected to the government who kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► the friends the kid and the kid can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► hear not because he can't hear but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► because loud noises will cause his heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► to stop just a video crate crazy amounts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► oh and the man who the man who sees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► Jin's oh yeah so so so it all starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► with a terrorist bombing in a tram where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► nobody dies except the bottom which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► seems strange and to me it was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► clear that that was important and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► everything was going to come from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► and yet I talk to somebody who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► frustrated by that i mean the amazing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► have a suicide bomber who is literally a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► suicide bomber not a homicide bombers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► that is an extraordinary thing in itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► right but there's something that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► because of that leads to all these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► events to happen including the guy who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► like a petty criminal basically an air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► hallucinating that he's seeing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► sort of religious figures all around him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► ada and and the fact that the the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► who sees the religious figures and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1437">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► kid who saw the bombing from his room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► via his robot and then it's followed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► another robot that tries to destroy his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► robot and then the gas investors are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► gonna try to sell irradiated gasps yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► right because Iran has had their nuclear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► complex bombed by the Americans like 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► years before and they've got all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► gas but it passes through the radiation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► zone and just all of this stuff that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► so densely packed in there and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► characters are the characters are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► interesting although i did I to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► characters of women characters have very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► similar names and i got really confused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► about which one was which but you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► figured it out eventually because one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► them had a one of the husband and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► other one didn't have a husband or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► family's help to get a job right but uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► and and was walking past the tram when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► it got bombed trying to get to a job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► interview right so and then it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► connected i can see how it's different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► the names are kind of difficult to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► strategies they were for me to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► straight all the names because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► so they're not Western name is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► exactly so i have no real context for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► them but i think i just really love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► way he writes and the stick it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► river of God's he also which is I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► twice the size of the Jewish house and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► probably has four times as many plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► elements that all seem unrelated until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► the very end he just knows how to weave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► this very intricate story that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► really know what why you're reading 5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► different stories that seem not related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► whatsoever until the last maybe ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► percent of the book and you're like uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► it all makes sense down well and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► fact that they the plot comes together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► like that which is really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► but also that he you know and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► some really beautiful descriptions just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► adjust descriptions of of turkey of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► Istanbul and the river and the bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► over the river and all that and some you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► interesting characters and then if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► step back the themes that he's talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► about you know he's talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► identity on a lot of different levels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► right there's Turkish identity and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► and how you know on one side of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► river you're in europe and on the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► side you're in Asia but also there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► this whole identity issue with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► nanotechnology has to do with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► modifying the identities of people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► there's a characteristic debate like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► erasing the memory of a friend of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► with this nanotechnology just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► it's such it's something that only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► science fiction can do and it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► one of the reasons why really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► science fiction is so great and why i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► love reading it is that you know to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► all of these tools to talk about culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► and identity and technology and how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► and and and then speculate a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► about a future where the hots the hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► tech startups are outside of istanbul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► turkey instead of in Silicon Valley is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► uh you know it's really it is just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► much to it and it sits there it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► real joy to read it and I want some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► those nanobots toys that kid has yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► he's got the it turns into a monkey and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► a rat and a snake and I mean there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► action to I shouldn't say this is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► complex meditation on identity because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► while it is that there's also like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► great action stuff where the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► the monkey robot has to like free a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► and they're doing like hand signals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► because the guy was being held by these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► terrorists and that he acted it works on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► many levels and maybe there's the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► mellah five-man which is such a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► thing really is not very important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► whatsoever to little overall plot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► story but it's got some great raiders of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► the lost ark kindness is that has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► open their tracking it down and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► you get that whole concept of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► architect who laid out in Istanbul and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► who wanted to spell the name of God out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► who did apparently well in this book he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► spilled up a name of God and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► how they kind of have to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► where the mellah fide man was and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1677">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► fanatic who once he saw the name he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► carries acid on him as we can burn his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► so the last thing he sees is the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► word of the name of God and then he'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► burn his eyes out exactly so much to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► like and it's not very long book either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► so I he packs it all it it's really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► very good book one of the better books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► that I've read and and in quite a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► yes and if it does not win the hugo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► yeah I great so highly recommended from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► let's check it up and if if you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► like it you should start read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► directions first because it is short and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► pick up the river gods which is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► fantastic but much longer and much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► dense alright we will we will move on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► our next hugo nominees selection we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► just blowing through the books after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► band knocking them down if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► really goes much faster yes yes haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► feed by mirror Grant who read fee i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► mean for shot and neither of us liked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► ok so let me talk about food for manage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► and winding up can you give you hear it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► oh yeah I i have so many problems with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► this book i will let you go first okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► let's see if I can hit the problems that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► you've got her if you've got your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► defeated by mere Grant who is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► mirror grant is actually a pseudonym for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► a writer of other novels called I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► her name is Shawn Maguire and she wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► this under a pen name she's a she's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► sci-fi writer of some sort of position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► yeah and I think she's just I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► she's generally liked and she wrote this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► it baffles me anyway so that before i go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► about bafflement let's just talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► the book feed is is a novel about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► bloggers yes who are essentially news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► reporters of the future and this is set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► technology is a little more advanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► also there's been a zombie apocalypse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► zombie apocalypse there's a you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► virus or actually a a virus and a cure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► for the common cold that meat and create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► yes and everybody who dies becomes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► if by a zombie you die and then your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► zombie and an interesting but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► that her world building was interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► so you can also since the the whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► the the zombie particle or whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► wanna call it has been around it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► virus yet the virus that's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► better is it so it's in everyone and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► can just spontaneously activate so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► don't have to be bitten by a zombie you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► can just spontaneously turn into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► zombie and animals also turned into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► zombies over 40 pounds or something so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► right there's like there's a law that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► you can't have a pet that's over 40 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► pounds because it could spontaneously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► Marmaduke but think how Bad's Ombey like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► mosquitoes would be zombie one rat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► that's why you can't do that yet so but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► so here's the thing though she you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► the the world-building the world she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► builds is interesting who her world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► building skills are poor because the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► the world gets built in the story is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► that somebody will like say something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► another character and then they'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► four pages of explanation of what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► means and how this happened in history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► and how it all came to be at which point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► you will then immediately go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► oh right i was in the middle of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► conversation before there were five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► pages of exposition it's kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► yeah yeah and so rather than dropping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► kind of these these hints and clues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► about how it's going to work throughout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► she just sort of lays it all out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► the dialogue is is poured the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► you know a couple of the characters are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► interesting but mostly the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► are cardboard cutouts I think she's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► some kind of interesting things to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► about the media and blogging as people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► who work in primarily electronic media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► she's trying to get some of what she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► says it's kind of interesting and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► she envisions as mass media but most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► it is so simplified and sort of silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► and it seems it feels to be like if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► was a book written by someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► discovered blogging in like 1996 and r [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► is setting out a world where that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► you believe that bloggers are actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► credible now its creation and I'm like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► can't believe it because I'm living in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► that world right as if that happens so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► the characters are not great that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► dialogue is bad there's huge amounts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► exposition so my other problems with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► there's a political story the story is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► the bloggers get to cover up hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► presidential campaign tag along on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► with one of the candidates with with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► improbable e nice candid he is he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► they don't believe how night had not how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► nice goodie is so you know that in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► how could he be nice and good because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► he's so perfect well the answer is he so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► character and he just as perfect as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► president but he doesn't have to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► any imperfections because his running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► mate becomes the stock evil general so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► I fire off the spoiler horn but honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► the law of the economy of characters is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► which is there's only one person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► could be the bad guy and it's the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► beginning Nov and redeeming values and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► yes spoiler alert he is the bad girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► because of course he's the bad guy he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► the only bad guy in the book yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► he's a nice old mustache twirling he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► snidely whiplash of fundamentalist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► Republican presidential candidate who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► becomes a vice-presidential candidate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► and is plotting the death of his running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► president of the United States awful so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► I i'm trying to think what else I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► ok so I have a couple of other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► she so it annoys me in general I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► books you know I started to beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► and read through it and I noticed some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► authors traditional you know that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► how i do it call me crazy and as I do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► I remember even though I have this weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► book amnesia as i'm reading a book i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► generally remember what i'm reading and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► so I notice if an author is using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► same phrase over and over and over again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► and apparently this author really likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► the phrase poke it with a stick because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► like every other page poke it with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► I don't understand why you keep coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► back to poke it with a stick it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► nothing to do I understand you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► there are literary techniques where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► repetition it builds it up but poke it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► with a stick with the wine-dark mine it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2096">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► ok with a stick and then I I i work in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► IT you know specifically insecurity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► right so there's a there's a character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► in this book who is given you know these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► mythical IT abilities right and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► built the system that no one can hack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► and it's impenetrable and she you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► spoiler alert after the fact with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► leaving leaving no pet leaving no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► password behind ever know she left a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► password behind and so the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► like message from the grave exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► characters like oh well let me just log [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► into the system that no one could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► now I'm like what the hell is going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► how did you know what my password once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► thats it was it was infuriating to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► because it was just so ridiculous and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► and the end so the two main characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► are brother and sister and they have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► I kept waiting for them to have sex so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► did I it was so we're super creepy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► was like Angelina Jolie and her brother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► kind of yeah this is it was creepy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► it was it was not it was distracting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► honestly from the rest of the story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► it didn't have to be now but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► because it was just so weird i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► think it ended me to Scott that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► really weird i did so i'm gonna fire off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► the spoiler is it's not going to win a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► no I want to talk about the one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► that I appreciate about this book which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► I was why I have to fire off the spoiler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► horn what I appreciate about this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► is that eighty percent of the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► through it the protagonist is killed em [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► and her brother takes over as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► viewpoint character for the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► book she she gets hit by a dart full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► zombie venom or whatever it is and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2217">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► there's a very interesting scene where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► she is doing her last message as the as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► as her brain slowly starts to shut down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► and become zombified and then he blows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► her brains out and then the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► story and the rest of the plot results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► itself with the brother who is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► I like the fact that she had the guts to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► go through almost the whole book but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► till the end kill off the main character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► and have the resolution have to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► from her brother who is very upset that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► that hit the protagonist in the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► that he was in has died so he has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► become the protagonist because he didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► sign up for this crowd and he just wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► yeah exactly so that I like that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► one if you gotta say something positive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► about I like that that was a that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► narrative decision and you know so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► but otherwise this was really not very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► good know it was I mean it would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► I cannot believe I actually i look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► nominated for hugo award was there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► there a campaign was there astronaut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► earlier they had the computer the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► computer genius hacked the voting system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► while your password and it isn't it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► unbreak so secure the shugo voting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► yeah I don't just be I don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► a world where this book and the Dervish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► house and even you know a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► thousand kingdoms and and a cryo burn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► can be considered in the same group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► it's just the gap is so why don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► zombie demographic they vote I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► zombie I I actually you know Scott I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► believe the dream of perpetual motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► would have been eligible this year right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► about 14,000 times better than feed yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► this is the thing that gets me is is I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► perpetual motion for all of its you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► interesting challenges it is roughly an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2336">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► infinite amount times better than busy i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► think so i haven't even read feed but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► I don't worry we read it was months ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► I still a book still occupies my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► part at times very so so Dan and Glenn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► what what can I tell you you gotta reach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► oh I'm gonna go right out i'm so glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► that I didn't just like go on mute for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► this and then come back and guys like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► totally read happy sucker and the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► part is it's the first book in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► trilogy so of course after so I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► to the I should say i'm going to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► Reno con the innovation which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► world con this year in in reno nevada [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► lovely summer in reno nothing better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► of course all the hugo nominees going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► be there and I'm actually hoping to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► to the hugo ceremony awkward and punch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► out the authors write and here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► thing is I'm going to see her there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► shaker that'd be like I gotta walk away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► Jason if you have nothing nice to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► because i haven't read any of your other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2397">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► books but the one book i read then punch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► them in the face yeah you could say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► protagonist yeah that's right that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► right i thought it was very brave of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► to kill your protectiveness most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► way through your novel and what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► think about the rest of my book did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► I wish you I wish you had killed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► alright i I'm glad you didn't make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► thank you yeah well it always it always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► someone's book so harshly because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► spent so much time writing it and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► can tell she was really invested in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► but it's not very good I'm sorry no it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► hey is your nomination sell enough it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► not it's not only not in the class to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► a hugo nominee it's not in the class to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► be considered a good but now it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► bad and frankly it cheapens the hugo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► award for heavy and not really does i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► don't and it's a parasite is hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► thousand hundred thousand kids how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► kingdoms yr a hundred Lee out hundreds a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► big planet I think that's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► kingdoms it is alright did everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2457">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► NK Jameson's hundred thousand kingdoms i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► read this book and I read the sequel by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► this book is a hundred thousand times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► better than feed so feeds like feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► like one Kingdom is that what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► saying and feed it feed is half a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► Connecticut negative negative zombies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► three kingdoms these zombie-infested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► blogger infested king that's right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► is very secured i think let's think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► that's where we're going I have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► I thought hundred thousand kingdom out i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► know i see i read it without thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► about the fantasy about Hugo issue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► the fantasy sci-fi thing and it's it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► fantasy with a 0.001% science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► thrown in to make it feel a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► more sci-fi I mean there is a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► of sci-fi overtone like to like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► a little taste of it in there but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► really fantasy but I thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► quite a beautiful novel I i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► yeah i was drawn into it right away it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► very complicated she's fully populated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► world starting from scratch he has this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► world of richness of gods and man you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► like wait a little bit about what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► well so the idea is that they live in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► universe that this HR the book is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► essentially a other bloggers say happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► other plugins tell his other side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► hell is other planters zombie blogger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► the book is about a woman a girl who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► lives in a distant Kingdom from sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► the center of the world is practically a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► legitimate center of the world which all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► the power resides and she's called by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► her grandfather she's a sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► half-caste she's called but a prominent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► she's called to the central Kingdom and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► her grandfather is it is named here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► one of his heirs three potential errors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► and will be some kind of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► there's imagination there but she finds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► out very quickly spoiler horn that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► really she's there to die because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► someone has to die in order for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► accession ascension to happen for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► next ruler of the kingdom but here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► thing you know a lot of kingdoms a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► of novels talk about the gods and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► sometimes they're made manifest in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► the gods are no real and palpable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► they're in the captain the cash will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► trapped right because there's other was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► an epic battle between the three Creator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► of sorts of different ages in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► universe are three legitimate creator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► gods and one of them two of them were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► lovers a third came along a to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► male entities were lovers and friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► and foes at third came along and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► provided a balanced and then sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► poison entered one of their hearts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► the one who is the white is the light he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► manages to kill the sort of woman who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► symbolize are the goddess who symbolizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► all of growth in creation and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► enslave the one who is the symbol of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► darkness and so the darkness and all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► his children and all of those related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► are all now subject there under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► thumb of this ruling family essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► can order them around and make them do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► their will and it's there all humiliated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► and have been for some I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► thousands of years at that point right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► it's a couple thousand you and me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► so it's a beautiful thing it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► gods are made manifest and yet there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► change their suffering but they're need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► you know if released they would destroy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► everything and and this woman comes into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► this environment she's the outsider lets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► us have the perspective we get to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► exposition thank you for the expedition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► because she's coming in without any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► knowledge beyond sort of distant stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► about what the situation is it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► complicated it's very well realized and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► I think it's um it's so subtle so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► things happen in the novel that I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► some of the plot points are very broad i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► would argue but some of the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► events the way in which people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► totally unexpected to me and I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► love the narrative i love the University [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► immediately went and bought and read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► second book and there's a third in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► trilogy coming out this October I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► enjoyed it very much actually I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► this is probably my second right after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► dervish house if drivers house was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► nominated I think this would probably be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► the one I would think should get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► hugo it was unlike any fantasy book i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► think i've ever read very enjoyable well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► written i like the interaction with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► I like the the idea that they their City [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► sky that hovers I guess above the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► kingdom or something and this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► family lives there and you have to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► part of the family to live there because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► if you're not you can't get this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► symbol on your like implanted on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► the the captured gods that roam the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► hallways so that they can go just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► just kill you because they're angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► they're and they're sort of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► capricious and so even though they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► under the thumb of you say something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► like get get me away from here they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► might send you to the bottom of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► you have to be very precise it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► genie is you have to be very precise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► with you ask because if you ask me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► emphasize they are then still within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► rule of the law of this sort of balls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► been laid down by this Elder God but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► look funny about it setup we started out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► you're like well they're so this is sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► of the usual thing there's a sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2757">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► white lie to God and there's fallen dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► demons and so forth and really quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► like wait a minute this is not anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► it's very complicated and you know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► is redemption and loss and hatred and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► whatever its and things happen that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► can imagine within the structure the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► university created suddenly happen she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► breaks it open cracked open and reforms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► and it's um I can't believe this is her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► first novel isn't it unbelievable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► beautiful just like a she's like a job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► counselor such a bar because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► second one she I mean this equal thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► think the second one action some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► universe already exists and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► inside of it instead of having to invent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► the universe and it's not about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► ruling class i think my second one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► stronger stand down on the question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► first one is first one is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► rulers of this of this planet and or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► kingdoms and a lot of atoms and the gods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► that the other like a hundred thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► of them with but it's I i love the God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► dynamic the fact that the gods there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► were rules about how the gods they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► they were mad right so is so they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► going to be capricious they have good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► reason to be they've been sort of bound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► and tied down to earth and now they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► to follow the you know that created they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► are their parents created the universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► and yet they have to follow the rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► the orders of the members of this family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► and and then there's the white God whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► up in heaven and he is you know not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► doesn't seem to be very nice right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► basically that's what he's got going for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► him and yet and that you know so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► character comes on and there are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► I i guess on one level you could view it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► as being very traditional it's outsider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► she doesn't seem like she's important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► turns out she's very important she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► learns all about it that's that same old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► story except the way it's told it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► didn't feel like that to me it felt much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► more like this was a real voyage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► discovery because you know it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► not just about her it was about the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► know how the gods were trying to use her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2877">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► and her family was trying to use her and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► so even though all the trappings it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► have that sort of traditional structure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► just like it'sit's fantasy but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► like any fantasy novel i've ever read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► it also has its the same structures like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► Harry Potter it's not for Star Wars yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► but it but it doesn't feel like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► because there's so much originality to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► it that I never felt like oh yeah I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► what she's doing here in fact there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► a couple twists in it that i was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► surprised it's like oh I didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► that was gonna happen to this character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► that's like so she'd represent something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► different than I think there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► actually a not appealing per se but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► fact that you know the worlds that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► sort of primitive sort of a fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► world meets like medieval times the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► guild the culture of things and it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► fact that it's not sugarcoat it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► people going haha I'm an evil person or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► whatever it's just it's the casual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► contempt of the ruling class for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► peasants and people are miss malformed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► and kill the known and the really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► question he cares because those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► don't count and I think there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► incredible like Ferris million students [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2937">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► corruption of the family has been ruling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► has landed they are they are so corrupt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► and just depraved in so many different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► ways and that's well well done there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► they're quite depraved it is it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► there but they're not just like single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► note characters they all have depth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► so they have their you can kind of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► understand they all have this underlined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► depravity right but they have other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► things that make them interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► yes who's your favorite character is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► question of those of us who read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► book who is the standout character for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► you can I got one but i'm curious the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► other files i like the the old dying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► leader dude all interesting ok but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► grandfather having really running the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► kingdom try to run the kingdom at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► character is her mother who is never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► seen because she's already dead and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► she said she sort of plan has plotted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► out the entire thing that's fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► i was i was going to say the the low-key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► like character the the eternally young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► the first time he's the first child of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► yeah and he and that is I think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► remarkable character because she's able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► to simulate this you know it's it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► a doctor who is sort of thing in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► ways like someone who is simultaneously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► infinitely old billions of years old and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► yet is absolutely child-like in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► nature right he doesn't just look like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► child he thinks like a child because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► wants to be a china in the Sun bit but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► he like wants to communicate with her he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► wants to comfort himself as if she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► his mother and their spoilers there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► mr. won't even say but but and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► whatever and then she takes his army is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► no he is like a child even though he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► no 4 billion years old or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► that kind of thing like there's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► in so much of what you read this fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► and science fiction is so much binary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► stuff black-and-white lack of subtlety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► and I just thought the book was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► beautifully shaded throughout even when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► there is some you know dopey things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► instead of the the sister the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► sisters an error the I guess half-sister [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► whatever of the our primary character or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► she is sister i don't even know anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► has some husband whenever she's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► a set of siblings who are heirs to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► throne this upstart is brought in as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► third legitimate one and the sisters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► playing pretty broad strokes but she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► she's cool and capricious but she sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► completely dissipated they're sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► the weakest characters they have to sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► of fill a role but even with that said I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► mean that's such a minor criticism of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► the overall just gorgeousness of of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► it's not overwritten either she writes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► beautifully without feeling that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► reading something that's supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► beautiful prose on the Nightlord the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► character of all night Laura right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► mean that that every security we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► skipped right over him but it's such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► great character he's in the daytime he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► kind of suppressed by the light because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► representative of the white God who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► suppressing them but at night he's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► black God he's the opposition but he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► bound now he comes you know much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► powerful at night and has all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3116">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► he's not he's not the devil right i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► he's he's dangerous and can do horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► things but yet you know he's got his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► perspective too and it's just it is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► very well done and very evocative and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► and you know the attraction that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► protagonist feels for him is not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► you know it's not like twilight was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► all vampire boys i love you you're so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► shiny darkens it's it's um it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► interesting and really horrible he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► yeah it's great you know I think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► that I'm the notion of that like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► York set up to expect this is additional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► light and dark and black and white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► blonde there's like there's a third got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► it was not following me so captain and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► they had this great creative thing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► universe was created through sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► fights of the white and the Dark Gods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► and the creative forces the third god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► that was woman who comes in a female [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► force she's like the mother of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► living things she's the green energy in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► the world and create the procreative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► energy and it's just AIT's I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► I can't say that I've ever read any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► fantasy or even mythology in which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► have these roles occupied in this sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► of distinct interesting way it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► very it's a great mythology someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► could make a religion out of this it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► interesting with the so you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► third God wanted to create order and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► bring about life and the other two gods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► were kind of like I don't think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► we're having so much fun doing all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► yeah we don't want to create life like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► new message no I think we should have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► i think we should have some life messy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► it's a part of the universe's mind and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► i'm going to create life and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► gonna have to cope with that and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► it's interesting that so the white God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► who is you know kind of distant doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► make it appear until the the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► book and but he influences everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► and the main character through her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► journey finds out that this God that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► she's worshipped perhaps is not as great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3237">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► as you know as pure as a shepherd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► thought but yet she still has this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► programming a loving him and she she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► finds it very difficult to go against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► who her whole culture and her the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► should have brought up and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► that kind of attention was was done very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► well yeah there's no the harry potter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► ickiness of like why did they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► say random weird words to get things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► happen it's like the universe's ordered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► it makes sense within constraints that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► are don't have to be explained but don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► I'm sorry I like Harry Potter but ideal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► campaign Gladish incantation think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► me so big thumbs up for the hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► surprised I you know I I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► be too much better because obviously i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► did not i read about half of it and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► will go back to at some point and finish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► it but I was not impressed with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► first half of this but the next fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► thousand really good so tell us and I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► forgotten that you you you like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► Glenn with the Dervish house or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► partial yeah I i started it and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► know maybe i just read better fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► than you guys earlier in my life I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► know they're just fighting words i tend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► to read more stuff that you know is was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► you know more complex as I didn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► surprising or new or different to me it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► really felt I don't know I felt kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► cold to it i didn't even the part where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► we sort of hit that and I hit that twist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► character and sort of when you figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► out her nature of her and i was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► okay you know like it didn't really it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► didn't really shocked or surprised me or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► make me revisit that character anyways I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► feel like that's something I've you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► that's that seems like a device i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► come across before I mean I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► i think i agree that she's she has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► very you know good command and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► setting up this world I just felt very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► cold to it did not really implement any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► any sort of response in me and and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► found the way I mean I understand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► rationale for the romantic aspect of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► but it felt melodramatic to me it felt a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► little overplayed and overwrought and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► and you know maybe again I i will finish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► the book at and I will you know perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► that will change my impression that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► just speaking from having read the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► half i just i mean i put it down to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► because i had to read something I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► I still because I got embassy sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► like a really interesting this and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► I and then I had not felt a desire to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► no you know dan you should check out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► feed because I think you like that haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► you know what's funny i was quite a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► of fantasy although I probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► sounds like you were deeply right but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► you know everyone is younger than a ton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► of fantasy and I always felt enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► read much less of it as I've got older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► my turn more of sci-fi but I always felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► there was even the best fantasy I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► there was some lot of shallow thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► of the universe was created in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► make put magic in it as opposed to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► principals in which people function and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► the magic sort of the structure of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► you know it's like a like this idea for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► how we structure university know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► a story that should come first I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► here the narrative is very strong and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► the universe sort of was built around it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3417">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► and and consistently influenced the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► no I was really skeptical going into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► I was like really I you know I i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► know i just even when i started reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► it and it said that was part of a series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► and I thought really if there's more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► these and it's sort of fantasy and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► know and within like three chapters I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► was I was like all right this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► good stuff this is I was i buy with body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► and and I don't came at a similar way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► because I just have this prejudice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► against fantasy I guess after reading so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► much bad fantasy when I just assumed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► that this would just be bad fantasy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► was short so i would read it and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► glad it because it was really good i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► recommend book 22 it's a book to is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► very different story for smaller story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► and you get more of the get more stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► about people but there's a big you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► universe destroying business in it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► well as there has to be in these kinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► of stories of but it's a it's a quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► different quite interesting as well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► like the protagonist blind woman is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► alright my ballot by the way and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► will come as no surprise given if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► listen to this is the Dervish house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► kingdoms followed by no award I i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► nominees here really really don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► deserve an award by auburn would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► been next then blackout all clear and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► course last would be feed less that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► really think duration hundred thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► kingdoms the only ones even worthy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► yeah those are those I think I've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► kinda Wilson the other one but i figured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► additional shorter pieces of fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► rekha nominated for the hugo awards this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► yeah let's let's mention a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► standouts really quickly before before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► we conclude the hugo portion of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► program girl and I never read anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► by Rachel sports key before I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► she's written a fair amount is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► right the woman realia the lady who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► plucked red flowers beneath the Queen's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► window fantastic that got my vote for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► yeah and essentially a very complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► and stunning realization of light and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► you can read it online for free into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► lot of two it's like you know it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► world again world with magic and but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► passage of enormous scope of time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► while woman is a magician or which sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► of you know put into a form which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► can be called up at will by people with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► the right incantation and comes in two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► different cultures past civilizations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► rise and fall there are you know sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► a new civilization Rises which they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► her help to change things and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► refuses because they're not women and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► selling women's magic and it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► marvelous it's like even though it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► fantasy it's a story about immortality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► yeah in the truest sense which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► immortality doesn't mean yeah I get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► live live my life that I have now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► forever it means that like in 10,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► years when you can't recognize anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3594">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► and that's what happens with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► character she keeps getting really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► summoned and you know it's for fastening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► she's like whatever happened to the hill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► people like I have no idea what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► talking about anyway we have a question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► for you and she's you know this is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► she all she can do is get these glimpses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► of these various cultures as she sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► fast-forwards through you know through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► basically many fantasy novels that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► happening and you get a little fraction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► of it while she's there and then off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► she's off to the next thing you have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► others that you read that you thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► were particularly interesting well I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► really liked chang who we talked about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► different podcast lifecycle of software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► objects I'd say we talk about that then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► is uh it's a it's a good story but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► feels more like a rumination instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► a short story or a novella rather its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► interesting i mean i enjoyed reading it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► but i think that since one of completion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► was like oh this was a great story with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► fully realized characters in it was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► like what a bunch of interesting ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► how fascinating a lot of these nominees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3657">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► are online and we'll post a link in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► show notes on the incomparable com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► so you can go and find some of the hugo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► nominated stories because they they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► put a lot of them up as PDFs or just on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► web pages and so you can get a chance to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► to read them the ones that stood out for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► me other than the lady who plucked red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► flowers beneath the Queen's window which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► is a really great story historical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► troika by alastair reynolds which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► Scott Scott Malastare Reynolds book on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► his on his bookshelf or on his desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► terminal world now so I'd never read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► anything by alastair reynolds I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► that maybe an occasional short story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► torque is really good it's um it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► strange story about Russians russian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► cosmonauts in a reform Soviet Union who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► gets sent to this weird object that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► artificial in nature and but it's sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► told from the perspective of the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► one of them who is still alive and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3717">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► in a mental institution and he is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► Siberia and he escapes to try and find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► it's cool it's crazy and it's good it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► one of the novel at nominees plus or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► minus by james patrick kelly which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► about people on a spaceship this crew on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► a spaceship and there there's a an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► accident and it's very much like cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► equations kind of story there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► accident they have to figure out what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► they're going to do to survive it while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► they're on this spaceship so that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► suffocate that I thought was pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► and and a story called eight miles by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► Sean McMullen which is basically about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► guy who's a balloonist in i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► 19th century and he i'm interested he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► commissioned to take the balloon eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► breathability area for people and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► the reason is that there's this creature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3777">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► who looks like a human being but was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► found at high elevation and the the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► who found who think has a theory that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► they take her up to eight miles high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► she will be able to communicate because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► she will be no longer be drunken by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► thick atmosphere of Earth surface and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► it's it and it's really cool it's a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► a great idea and and it is it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► it's very retro it's very you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► what what would it be like if there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► people who lived on Mars where the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► is thinner than it is on earth and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► short stories like there's one Kerry Von [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► have a shirt circled amaryllis which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► kind of interesting about people on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► ship in the future with their resource [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► constraints and they want to have a baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► and and a story by Peter what's called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► the things which i really like to which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► is the story of the movie the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► where there's there in Antarctica and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► there's this alien thing and it takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3836">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► over people's bodies and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3837">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► that you very well-known movie this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► short story about that same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► basically from the perspective of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► alien and it's really quite good so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► frozen like there's a story a Grendel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► you know which is payable tall candles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► and classic high school reading material [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► African glasses so the bonus that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► didn't get to hear is that we want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► talk about China Mieville book embassy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► town which there are some very strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► opinions on this among our panel I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► but we're gonna have to save it for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► future podcast dear listener if you some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► of us enjoyed embassy town and think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► should read it and then two and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► tune in to our podcast where we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► dan moore and however suggest that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► don't you suggest you buy a copy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► librarians I would never ever get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► burning books acceptance return a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► yes yes donated anyway it uh until next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► time when we will discuss wide and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3897">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► in heitz embassy town and all other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► no I feel bad that you hated because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► it's not so much long as its dense he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► gonna come and beat up and it's not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► long as usual kind of meatballs a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► scary-looking he's a brutally as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► you could take you out your scrawny then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► it's fun being in a book club but now we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► dear listeners I i'm jason l and i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► Fleischmann thank you for being here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► Glenn thank you so much Dan Morgan thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► thanks Jason and Scott McNulty thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► Jason you have won the hugo of my heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► and and Scott you can't see it but i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► I feel touched right the hug awards huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► yes and on that note farewell everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► and hope you read some of these books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► and like them not feed but don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► think that just turned to it until next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbAGJrE/3956">TS</a>]