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50: We Apologize for the Extinction of the Clownfish

 

00:00:00   the incomparable podcast number 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/0">TS</a>]

00:00:08   artists 2011 back for part two of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/8">TS</a>]

00:00:13   copper bowls you into the films of pixar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/13">TS</a>]

00:00:16   animation studios [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/16">TS</a>]

00:00:18   so we're going to get back into our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/18">TS</a>]

00:00:20   likes or dislikes seems that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/20">TS</a>]

00:00:22   creeped us out stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/22">TS</a>]

00:00:24   i'm joined again I'm Jason Snelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/24">TS</a>]

00:00:26   hosted the incomparable i'm joined by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/26">TS</a>]

00:00:27   Steve let's your back for more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/27">TS</a>]

00:00:29   punishment welcome aged one week since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/29">TS</a>]

00:00:31   the last time we supposed to fix her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/31">TS</a>]

00:00:33   it's funny how that works and again John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/33">TS</a>]

00:00:36   siracusa John thanks for coming back for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/36">TS</a>]

00:00:39   part two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/39">TS</a>]

00:00:39   I don't know if I can remember what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/39">TS</a>]

00:00:41   were talking about what we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/41">TS</a>]

00:00:42   in part 10 i don't know i think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/42">TS</a>]

00:00:45   something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/45">TS</a>]

00:00:47   yeah it's all a blur now I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/47">TS</a>]

00:00:50   all about steve jobs and EDD Catmull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/50">TS</a>]

00:00:51   that's what it was involuntary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/51">TS</a>]

00:00:53   Katzenberg but yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/53">TS</a>]

00:00:55   Pixar pixar right yeah all right let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/55">TS</a>]

00:00:59   get back to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/59">TS</a>]

00:01:00   let's go around one more time more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/60">TS</a>]

00:01:01   quickly to to do this is our lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/61">TS</a>]

00:01:04   round another movie that you'd like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/64">TS</a>]

00:01:06   say something kind of in favor of the to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/66">TS</a>]

00:01:08   Pixar movie Steve do you have another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/68">TS</a>]

00:01:09   one you'd like to call out just for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/69">TS</a>]

00:01:11   few words of encouragement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/71">TS</a>]

00:01:13   yeah it's a actually in the run-up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/73">TS</a>]

00:01:17   this podcast as i said i just watched up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/77">TS</a>]

00:01:19   for the first time a couple nights ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/79">TS</a>]

00:01:20   and i actually just watch wall-e about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/80">TS</a>]

00:01:24   two weeks ago and i really liked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/84">TS</a>]

00:01:28   I get where you're coming from John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/88">TS</a>]

00:01:30   reset the messages heavy-handed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/90">TS</a>]

00:01:31   definitely goes off the rails in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/91">TS</a>]

00:01:33   second act I think it was a bit jarring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/93">TS</a>]

00:01:35   to have real-life people as much as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/95">TS</a>]

00:01:38   like Fred Willard regular have him be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/98">TS</a>]

00:01:41   the video screens and then have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/101">TS</a>]

00:01:43   people be animated is just kind of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/103">TS</a>]

00:01:45   weird cognitive dissonance there that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/105">TS</a>]

00:01:46   did throws me for a bit of a loop but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/106">TS</a>]

00:01:49   that opening sequence with with wall-e [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/109">TS</a>]

00:01:52   and Eve and then the subsequent sequence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/112">TS</a>]

00:01:54   in space where they're doing their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/114">TS</a>]

00:01:55   little dance through space is just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/115">TS</a>]

00:01:57   beautiful that it it it's a near [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/117">TS</a>]

00:02:00   masterpiece I think to me that is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/120">TS</a>]

00:02:02   only really ruined by a slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/122">TS</a>]

00:02:06   disappointing ending that this cleaned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/126">TS</a>]

00:02:08   up maybe a little too too too rapidly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/128">TS</a>]

00:02:11   and quickly and you don't really have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/131">TS</a>]

00:02:12   enough time to get fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/132">TS</a>]

00:02:13   for the villains in the the other human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/133">TS</a>]

00:02:16   characters but but that Wally and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/136">TS</a>]

00:02:19   and and Eve sequences and and just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/139">TS</a>]

00:02:21   way that they they brought Wally life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/141">TS</a>]

00:02:23   and made him so relatable is just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/143">TS</a>]

00:02:26   impressive to me that that I i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/146">TS</a>]

00:02:30   enjoyed the film and and I definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/150">TS</a>]

00:02:32   think it deserves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/152">TS</a>]

00:02:34   if not masterpiece status than very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/154">TS</a>]

00:02:37   close to it i agree about i mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/157">TS</a>]

00:02:39   opening is I you know I could argue that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/159">TS</a>]

00:02:43   yeah the first 10 or 15 minutes of Wally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/163">TS</a>]

00:02:44   is the best 10 or 15 minutes the Pixar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/164">TS</a>]

00:02:46   is done and it's hard it's kind of hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/166">TS</a>]

00:02:48   to top and the plot is harmless and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/168">TS</a>]

00:02:52   the message was a little over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/172">TS</a>]

00:02:53   overbearing I i think i might argue that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/173">TS</a>]

00:02:57   that's the best-looking Pixar movie i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/177">TS</a>]

00:02:59   love how it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/179">TS</a>]

00:03:01   the whole thing from the i love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/181">TS</a>]

00:03:04   design of the spaceship i love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/184">TS</a>]

00:03:06   design of the the the you know wrecked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/186">TS</a>]

00:03:09   dirty earth that's being picked up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/189">TS</a>]

00:03:11   Wally's little shed and the robots and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/191">TS</a>]

00:03:15   it sounds great i mean it's such as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/195">TS</a>]

00:03:17   made a roach likable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/197">TS</a>]

00:03:19   yeah yeah yeah it's such a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/199">TS</a>]

00:03:20   technical achievement and end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/200">TS</a>]

00:03:23   silent opening it you know the dialogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/203">TS</a>]

00:03:26   this opening is so brilliant that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/206">TS</a>]

00:03:28   know I'm willing to forgive it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/208">TS</a>]

00:03:30   it's missteps you know plot-wise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/210">TS</a>]

00:03:35   it's sort of a little you know a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/215">TS</a>]

00:03:37   too much heavy-handedness with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/217">TS</a>]

00:03:39   message just because it is so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/219">TS</a>]

00:03:43   it's Wally is so likeable you know your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/223">TS</a>]

00:03:46   main character that can't speak and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/226">TS</a>]

00:03:50   there's so much good in it even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/230">TS</a>]

00:03:52   it's much more like that kind of movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/232">TS</a>]

00:03:54   right where it's where it's kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/234">TS</a>]

00:03:56   got some good and some bad rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/236">TS</a>]

00:03:57   it just being solid all the way through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/237">TS</a>]

00:03:59   and i also want to mention just a quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01   shout-out to something that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/241">TS</a>]

00:04:03   usually kind of ignored but the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/243">TS</a>]

00:04:05   sequence over the end credits at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/245">TS</a>]

00:04:07   of Wally i think is really really strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/247">TS</a>]

00:04:09   beautiful where they go through the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/249">TS</a>]

00:04:11   cave paintings and sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/251">TS</a>]

00:04:12   resurgence of man is he is he becomes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/252">TS</a>]

00:04:15   goes through his various stages of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/255">TS</a>]

00:04:17   growth again over the peter gabriel's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/257">TS</a>]

00:04:19   are you know right which yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/259">TS</a>]

00:04:21   which-which is a little distracting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/261">TS</a>]

00:04:23   because it's one of those things where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/263">TS</a>]

00:04:24   you know it's clearly Peter Gabriel but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/264">TS</a>]

00:04:26   then again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/266">TS</a>]

00:04:27   it's not Randy Newman so I guess that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/267">TS</a>]

00:04:28   it was gonna get that but I mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/268">TS</a>]

00:04:31   Italian that song really kind of match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/271">TS</a>]

00:04:33   I mean that that's a case where they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/273">TS</a>]

00:04:35   some work with the lyrics really match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/275">TS</a>]

00:04:36   what you're seeing in the right in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/276">TS</a>]

00:04:38   in the credits and yeah that it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/278">TS</a>]

00:04:42   really well can I say bad things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/282">TS</a>]

00:04:43   Wally before saying really something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/283">TS</a>]

00:04:45   else so I'm a little i have a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/285">TS</a>]

00:04:47   more trouble forgiving Wally mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/287">TS</a>]

00:04:50   because like you mentioned that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/290">TS</a>]

00:04:51   designs and everything is good movie i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/291">TS</a>]

00:04:53   agree except humans and I don't want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/293">TS</a>]

00:04:56   humans in a movie right because i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58   interested in the robot and this future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/298">TS</a>]

00:05:00   dystopia and his problems and I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/300">TS</a>]

00:05:04   I didn't see a place I don't think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/304">TS</a>]

00:05:05   needed humans in there i would just been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/305">TS</a>]

00:05:07   happy a big fat human blobs right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/307">TS</a>]

00:05:10   it almost would have been better if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/310">TS</a>]

00:05:11   have been brought to the spaceship in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/311">TS</a>]

00:05:12   the intake could have come up with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/312">TS</a>]

00:05:13   clever way to avoid ever seeing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/313">TS</a>]

00:05:15   humans while still knowing they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/315">TS</a>]

00:05:17   there or just have them being like cryo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/317">TS</a>]

00:05:19   freeze all the humans are gone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/319">TS</a>]

00:05:21   robots are there and it's the robots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/321">TS</a>]

00:05:23   were sent down because the robots are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/323">TS</a>]

00:05:24   trying to recolonize and he would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/324">TS</a>]

00:05:25   rejoined by robot like his dilemma our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/325">TS</a>]

00:05:27   main character they're with is I'm alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/327">TS</a>]

00:05:30   I'm in a bad time in this bad place and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/330">TS</a>]

00:05:32   I'm trying to do all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/332">TS</a>]

00:05:34   do what I think i'm supposed to do but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/334">TS</a>]

00:05:36   it's just a an impossible task and now a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/336">TS</a>]

00:05:38   visitor comes and finally i'm not alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/338">TS</a>]

00:05:40   but it's intriguing and she's different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/340">TS</a>]

00:05:41   than like that's the story I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/341">TS</a>]

00:05:43   to hear about fat people who don't float [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/343">TS</a>]

00:05:45   around on chairs I don't want to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/345">TS</a>]

00:05:46   about pollution you know where you fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/346">TS</a>]

00:05:48   Ratzenberger and then if you do that uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/348">TS</a>]

00:05:50   yeah there's always a place you can take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/350">TS</a>]

00:05:52   the fred willard I so I don't know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/352">TS</a>]

00:05:54   got back on Wally too much because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/354">TS</a>]

00:05:56   first half really is great i know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/356">TS</a>]

00:05:58   right they could just have them be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/358">TS</a>]

00:06:00   cryo suspension and have it be like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/360">TS</a>]

00:06:02   you know people they were good people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/362">TS</a>]

00:06:04   got fat and tired and we just what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/364">TS</a>]

00:06:06   decided to wait it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/366">TS</a>]

00:06:07   you don't even need to do the fat thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/367">TS</a>]

00:06:09   that the people could all be dead and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/369">TS</a>]

00:06:10   you could have a an emergence of a hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/370">TS</a>]

00:06:12   but the whole thing is about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/372">TS</a>]

00:06:14   because we do we need people we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/374">TS</a>]

00:06:16   these characters who we relate to who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/376">TS</a>]

00:06:18   have everything that people have there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/378">TS</a>]

00:06:20   no reason that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/380">TS</a>]

00:06:21   well this is something that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/381">TS</a>]

00:06:22   mentioned in your in your hypercritical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/382">TS</a>]

00:06:24   podcast is is the question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/384">TS</a>]

00:06:28   they've got this whole story process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/388">TS</a>]

00:06:30   that picture they do seem to take risks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/390">TS</a>]

00:06:32   they make these amazing movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/392">TS</a>]

00:06:33   sometimes you wonder if they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/393">TS</a>]

00:06:35   quite take enough of a risk and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/395">TS</a>]

00:06:36   this is one of those cases where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/396">TS</a>]

00:06:38   there as they did they felt like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/398">TS</a>]

00:06:40   took a risk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/400">TS</a>]

00:06:41   it's almost like mitigated their lack of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/401">TS</a>]

00:06:43   risk-taking in the whole movie by doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/403">TS</a>]

00:06:45   the big risk with the dialogue list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/405">TS</a>]

00:06:47   first 15 minutes but the real risk would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/407">TS</a>]

00:06:50   have been to say you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/410">TS</a>]

00:06:52   there are no people there is no dialogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/412">TS</a>]

00:06:55   it is all robots and they didn't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/415">TS</a>]

00:06:58   they kind of stuck the fat people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/418">TS</a>]

00:07:01   there with a fairly easy kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/421">TS</a>]

00:07:04   satirical message and you know i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/424">TS</a>]

00:07:07   sure it was really necessary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/427">TS</a>]

00:07:09   you know I don't think having no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/429">TS</a>]

00:07:10   dialogue without much of a risk because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/430">TS</a>]

00:07:12   kids of all people get me tom and jerry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/432">TS</a>]

00:07:14   has no dialogue and one of my son's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/434">TS</a>]

00:07:16   favorite cartoon kids of all people get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/436">TS</a>]

00:07:18   ya pantomime and like they don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/438">TS</a>]

00:07:20   dialogue dialogue distraction for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/440">TS</a>]

00:07:22   and their the risk wasn't so much that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/442">TS</a>]

00:07:24   they weren't going to have people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/444">TS</a>]

00:07:24   because you know cars has no people toy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/444">TS</a>]

00:07:27   story has limited people like that toy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/447">TS</a>]

00:07:29   the thing is that pixar tends to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/449">TS</a>]

00:07:31   inanimate objects or other things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/451">TS</a>]

00:07:33   aren't people people like but these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/453">TS</a>]

00:07:34   robots and Wally were not people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/454">TS</a>]

00:07:36   and you're like they were I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/456">TS</a>]

00:07:38   obviously they were content with being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/458">TS</a>]

00:07:40   an actress but but they were they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/460">TS</a>]

00:07:43   different they were alien some somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/463">TS</a>]

00:07:45   they didn't act exactly like people they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/465">TS</a>]

00:07:47   didn't talk they didn't express things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/467">TS</a>]

00:07:49   the same way you know what he didn't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/469">TS</a>]

00:07:50   anything at all eve spoke very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/470">TS</a>]

00:07:52   differently and had very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/472">TS</a>]

00:07:53   attitude you know they had personalities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/473">TS</a>]

00:07:55   but the head machine personalities and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/475">TS</a>]

00:07:57   that would have been the risk to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/477">TS</a>]

00:07:58   we're not going to take a robot and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/478">TS</a>]

00:08:00   it just like your neighbor gym is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/480">TS</a>]

00:08:02   going to be neighbor Jim robot robots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/482">TS</a>]

00:08:03   robots and they are intelligent beings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/483">TS</a>]

00:08:06   in this universe and infinitely emotions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/486">TS</a>]

00:08:08   they have feelings and emotions but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/488">TS</a>]

00:08:10   they're a little bit different than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/490">TS</a>]

00:08:11   a little bit alien that would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/491">TS</a>]

00:08:13   you know the suspending someone an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/493">TS</a>]

00:08:14   entire movie where everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/494">TS</a>]

00:08:16   slightly alien that probably would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/496">TS</a>]

00:08:17   been a risk and interested just doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/497">TS</a>]

00:08:20   since we talked about the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/500">TS</a>]

00:08:21   hyper-girl give it a quick summary of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/501">TS</a>]

00:08:23   here and then the cars two things with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/503">TS</a>]

00:08:25   my argument was that pixar before cars 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/505">TS</a>]

00:08:30   by making a series by never making a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/510">TS</a>]

00:08:32   movie they had figured out how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/512">TS</a>]

00:08:34   engineer the process to avoid making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/514">TS</a>]

00:08:36   bad movie but it was preventing them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/516">TS</a>]

00:08:38   from make a trend making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/518">TS</a>]

00:08:39   transcendently good movie and my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/519">TS</a>]

00:08:41   comparison was that have you asked John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/521">TS</a>]

00:08:43   Lasseter have you ever made a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/523">TS</a>]

00:08:44   that's better than the best miyazaki [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/524">TS</a>]

00:08:46   movie I think he would say no and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/526">TS</a>]

00:08:48   because miyazaki is not afraid to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/528">TS</a>]

00:08:50   stinky movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/530">TS</a>]

00:08:51   his great movies are really great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/531">TS</a>]

00:08:53   because he's willing to try and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/533">TS</a>]

00:08:55   things that are way outside the norm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/535">TS</a>]

00:08:57   whereas I feel like Pixar keeps itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/537">TS</a>]

00:09:00   within semi well-defined boundaries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/540">TS</a>]

00:09:02   making a series of great movies in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/542">TS</a>]

00:09:04   really great ones but the best of pixar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/544">TS</a>]

00:09:07   in my opinion and I think in the opinion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/547">TS</a>]

00:09:09   of the people who work at Pixar is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/549">TS</a>]

00:09:11   better than the best miyazaki movie they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/551">TS</a>]

00:09:13   just have a massively higher average is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/553">TS</a>]

00:09:15   probably some sports analogy the Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/555">TS</a>]

00:09:17   can make at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/557">TS</a>]

00:09:18   yeah its value over replacement player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/558">TS</a>]

00:09:20   with a park neutral now I got to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/560">TS</a>]

00:09:24   the odds you're gonna make some Yankee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/564">TS</a>]

00:09:25   slow the only argument I'd make is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/565">TS</a>]

00:09:27   is the is the incredibles is a great i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/567">TS</a>]

00:09:32   think a great movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/572">TS</a>]

00:09:33   oh yeah now i'm not saying i just i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/573">TS</a>]

00:09:35   such a but it's not in such a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/575">TS</a>]

00:09:36   miyazaki fan and you know it John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/576">TS</a>]

00:09:38   Lasseter that's why I'm making that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/578">TS</a>]

00:09:40   particular comparison and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/580">TS</a>]

00:09:41   incredibles i think one of the reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/581">TS</a>]

00:09:42   its greatest that it's got its got Brad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/582">TS</a>]

00:09:45   Bird right i mean but it is a it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/585">TS</a>]

00:09:48   one example if you look at the wikipedia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/588">TS</a>]

00:09:50   page for pics are listed pixar films you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/590">TS</a>]

00:09:53   know it's the only movie that they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/593">TS</a>]

00:09:54   made where the writer and director and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/594">TS</a>]

00:09:57   story is one guy and it's brad bird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/597">TS</a>]

00:10:01   that's his movie he made that movie he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/601">TS</a>]

00:10:03   owns it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/603">TS</a>]

00:10:04   it's his and I think that maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/604">TS</a>]

00:10:07   reason one of the reasons why it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/607">TS</a>]

00:10:09   great it's not that it wasn't a team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/609">TS</a>]

00:10:11   effort but there was actually some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/611">TS</a>]

00:10:13   singular vision in it right in a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/613">TS</a>]

00:10:16   by committee and he and brad bird had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/616">TS</a>]

00:10:18   come to Pixar right so he hadn't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/618">TS</a>]

00:10:20   there before he wasn't part of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/620">TS</a>]

00:10:21   glass eyes so it that in itself is maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/621">TS</a>]

00:10:24   telling that their greatest work is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/624">TS</a>]

00:10:27   outlier and a and it's not up a result [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/627">TS</a>]

00:10:30   of the process in the same way that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/630">TS</a>]

00:10:32   the other movies are all i would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/632">TS</a>]

00:10:34   like it you said I was not a movie by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36   committee if you look at that same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/636">TS</a>]

00:10:37   wikipedia page and lists like that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/637">TS</a>]

00:10:39   hell of a committee I mean we can bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/639">TS</a>]

00:10:40   about you know Canada yet John Lasseter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/640">TS</a>]

00:10:43   and Peter doctor and you know it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/643">TS</a>]

00:10:45   and read and understand me if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/645">TS</a>]

00:10:47   to have a committee of three or four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/647">TS</a>]

00:10:48   people it's not bad having them in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/648">TS</a>]

00:10:49   government and that's why they make all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/649">TS</a>]

00:10:51   good want to make that's my good movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/651">TS</a>]

00:10:53   and most of the time in a great movie so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/653">TS</a>]

00:10:55   but they you know to punch through you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/655">TS</a>]

00:10:58   you need to be able to do you need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/658">TS</a>]

00:10:59   willing to risk make a duck because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/659">TS</a>]

00:11:01   Miyazaki's made some movies that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/661">TS</a>]

00:11:03   just like you didn't quite make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/663">TS</a>]

00:11:05   quite connector is just a little bit too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/665">TS</a>]

00:11:06   weird or it fails in one obvious way or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/666">TS</a>]

00:11:09   another that any of these story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/669">TS</a>]

00:11:10   committees of these three or four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/670">TS</a>]

00:11:12   amazingly talented pixar guys would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/672">TS</a>]

00:11:13   would have told me sake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/673">TS</a>]

00:11:15   here's where your movies falling apart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/675">TS</a>]

00:11:16   and would have tried to fix it but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/676">TS</a>]

00:11:18   doesn't happen it's doing here generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/678">TS</a>]

00:11:20   apparently and you just got to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/680">TS</a>]

00:11:22   whatever you want it let him make those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/682">TS</a>]

00:11:23   transcended ones and the whole thing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/683">TS</a>]

00:11:25   like all you're just asking for failure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/685">TS</a>]

00:11:26   with cars to it isn't that your failure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/686">TS</a>]

00:11:28   that you wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/688">TS</a>]

00:11:29   I haven't seen cars to yet if cars to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/689">TS</a>]

00:11:31   fail because it was too ambitious than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/691">TS</a>]

00:11:33   yes but i have a feeling it did not fail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/693">TS</a>]

00:11:35   because it was ambitious i found a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/695">TS</a>]

00:11:37   feeling its I don't think it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/697">TS</a>]

00:11:39   gonna be a failure at all when i watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/699">TS</a>]

00:11:41   i think i'm going to say that was an ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/701">TS</a>]

00:11:42   movie i think it was just probably to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/702">TS</a>]

00:11:45   conventional right too timid to i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/705">TS</a>]

00:11:48   know i haven't seen it it's hard for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/708">TS</a>]

00:11:50   to say but my and I haven't seen it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/710">TS</a>]

00:11:51   either i was disappointed when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/711">TS</a>]

00:11:53   trailer came out because i wasn't aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/713">TS</a>]

00:11:54   that they were actually making cards too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/714">TS</a>]

00:11:56   and I was disappointed because I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/716">TS</a>]

00:11:58   that was a failure of ambition not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/718">TS</a>]

00:12:00   because the movie wouldn't necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/720">TS</a>]

00:12:01   be creative and it sounds like they made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/721">TS</a>]

00:12:04   a very different movie from cars that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/724">TS</a>]

00:12:06   it's more of a sort of spy inflected and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/726">TS</a>]

00:12:08   international kind of movie and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/728">TS</a>]

00:12:10   maybe it's a lot of fun but it and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/730">TS</a>]

00:12:13   know some people with Pixar but I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15   don't know any behind-the-scenes and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/735">TS</a>]

00:12:17   feel you know I it's difficult for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/737">TS</a>]

00:12:19   put to make a guess about what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/739">TS</a>]

00:12:22   internal struggle is about this but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/742">TS</a>]

00:12:24   very hard for me to look at cars tues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/744">TS</a>]

00:12:26   existence and not think well cars was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/746">TS</a>]

00:12:29   the pet project the guy who runs the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/749">TS</a>]

00:12:30   studio John Lasseter it's he's a car nut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/750">TS</a>]

00:12:34   it's his favorite subject and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/754">TS</a>]

00:12:36   they're making a sequel hard for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/756">TS</a>]

00:12:39   not look at that and say maybe they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/759">TS</a>]

00:12:41   not making this for the right reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/761">TS</a>]

00:12:42   maybe they're making this because he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/762">TS</a>]

00:12:44   the boss and he loves this and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/764">TS</a>]

00:12:48   going to do it again at part of its cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/768">TS</a>]

00:12:50   is my least favorite Pixar movie by far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/770">TS</a>]

00:12:52   not that it's bad but it's my least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/772">TS</a>]

00:12:55   favorite and of all the movies for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57   to make a sequel to next for it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/777">TS</a>]

00:13:00   cars like really when you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/780">TS</a>]

00:13:02   monsters incorporated when you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/782">TS</a>]

00:13:04   the incredibles you know it you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/784">TS</a>]

00:13:08   so many other choices and its cars to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/788">TS</a>]

00:13:11   just seems so easy and it's got you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/791">TS</a>]

00:13:13   marketing potential because kids can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/793">TS</a>]

00:13:15   make you know you can make cars that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/795">TS</a>]

00:13:17   kids can play with and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/797">TS</a>]

00:13:18   and and you know again it just seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/798">TS</a>]

00:13:21   like such a safe choice for them when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/801">TS</a>]

00:13:23   they ought to be doing more original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/803">TS</a>]

00:13:26   things while the money angle is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/806">TS</a>]

00:13:28   one convincing part of that not so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/808">TS</a>]

00:13:30   the bosses wins it's just that car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/810">TS</a>]

00:13:32   merchandise has been selling just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/812">TS</a>]

00:13:35   its opening weekend for the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/815">TS</a>]

00:13:37   cars for years it's not like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/817">TS</a>]

00:13:39   the movie comes out every by the dolls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/819">TS</a>]

00:13:41   and you forget about your car's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/821">TS</a>]

00:13:42   merchandise is still selling strongly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/822">TS</a>]

00:13:44   we've got and we've got two majors in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/824">TS</a>]

00:13:46   our house but i'd rather me when my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/826">TS</a>]

00:13:48   girls I have so the fact that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/828">TS</a>]

00:13:50   merchandise has been selling so well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/830">TS</a>]

00:13:52   years after the movie has been out you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/832">TS</a>]

00:13:55   know without even the sequel hyping it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/835">TS</a>]

00:13:57   up or anything you consider this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/837">TS</a>]

00:13:59   this is their funding the rest of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/839">TS</a>]

00:14:01   more ambitious projects and the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/841">TS</a>]

00:14:03   about cars 2 is when I saw their wedding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/843">TS</a>]

00:14:04   card too I felt the same way but then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/844">TS</a>]

00:14:06   thought well they made toy story 2 and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/846">TS</a>]

00:14:08   thought that was going to be a disaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/848">TS</a>]

00:14:09   yeah sure as heck wasn't you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/849">TS</a>]

00:14:11   why don't make sequel itís don't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/851">TS</a>]

00:14:12   sequels it also i said we'll find I i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/852">TS</a>]

00:14:15   going to give this movie the benefit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/855">TS</a>]

00:14:16   the doubt because I you know I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/856">TS</a>]

00:14:19   toy story 2 is going to be stupid and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/859">TS</a>]

00:14:20   why make a sequel or toy story three for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/860">TS</a>]

00:14:22   that matter they're making a third moist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24   or not they have enough for stories but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26   against and maybe we should wait for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/866">TS</a>]

00:14:27   purportedly on the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/867">TS</a>]

00:14:28   yeah yeah so I mean you know until they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/868">TS</a>]

00:14:31   make a bad one you know but it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/871">TS</a>]

00:14:32   because this is a sequel it I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/872">TS</a>]

00:14:35   don't fault them for because you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/875">TS</a>]

00:14:36   make sequels good and again I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/876">TS</a>]

00:14:38   seen the movie but even if it just turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/878">TS</a>]

00:14:40   out to be a so-so kids movie if it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/880">TS</a>]

00:14:44   a lot of money and it funds the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/884">TS</a>]

00:14:45   ambitious projects i'm all for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/885">TS</a>]

00:14:47   it didn't start talking about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/887">TS</a>]

00:14:48   without seeing it I don't think it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/888">TS</a>]

00:14:50   make my eye I think it's an outlet for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/890">TS</a>]

00:14:52   your toys not the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/892">TS</a>]

00:14:54   oh yeah that's true don't know where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/894">TS</a>]

00:14:55   real money from the movie is made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/895">TS</a>]

00:14:57   come on merchandising now John do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/897">TS</a>]

00:15:00   have a another picture that you'd like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/900">TS</a>]

00:15:02   to touch on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/902">TS</a>]

00:15:03   yeah that the 1i want to talk about is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05   finding nemo and I its i love Finding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/905">TS</a>]

00:15:10   Nemo I think it's a great movie i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/910">TS</a>]

00:15:11   it's one of the one of the funniest pics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/911">TS</a>]

00:15:13   are i find myself laughing at Ellen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/913">TS</a>]

00:15:16   DeGeneres nothing more than an where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/916">TS</a>]

00:15:19   should you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/919">TS</a>]

00:15:21   the I don't know if it's been riding her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/921">TS</a>]

00:15:24   delivery I just find it very funny and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/924">TS</a>]

00:15:26   think her performance was great but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/926">TS</a>]

00:15:28   that's not what i want to highlight this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/928">TS</a>]

00:15:29   movie I want to highlight it because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/929">TS</a>]

00:15:31   marks the first time that I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/931">TS</a>]

00:15:32   noticed pics are really coming into its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/932">TS</a>]

00:15:35   own deciding that they were going to so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/935">TS</a>]

00:15:38   previously had been using animation for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/938">TS</a>]

00:15:40   things and animation is good at and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/940">TS</a>]

00:15:42   finding nemo they said you know what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/942">TS</a>]

00:15:45   can do the things that people who make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/945">TS</a>]

00:15:47   like historical pictures or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/947">TS</a>]

00:15:50   romances or travel movies can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/950">TS</a>]

00:15:54   having beautiful things having the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/954">TS</a>]

00:15:56   scenery be beautiful and having that add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/956">TS</a>]

00:15:58   to the movie like when you're watching a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/958">TS</a>]

00:15:59   particular movie show a sunset or people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/959">TS</a>]

00:16:00   are driving through Africa or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/960">TS</a>]

00:16:02   that adds to the movie and they said we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/962">TS</a>]

00:16:04   don't have to be timid making rigidbody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/964">TS</a>]

00:16:05   things inside a building with lighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/965">TS</a>]

00:16:08   from a light bulb in the middle of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/968">TS</a>]

00:16:09   room we can make beautiful natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/969">TS</a>]

00:16:11   things we can have and that can add to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/971">TS</a>]

00:16:13   the movie not just you know don't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/973">TS</a>]

00:16:16   do enough to get it done make shots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/976">TS</a>]

00:16:18   where you dwell on look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/978">TS</a>]

00:16:20   beautiful places where these things live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/980">TS</a>]

00:16:21   and even though it's not like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/981">TS</a>]

00:16:23   wasn't the focus finding nemo and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/983">TS</a>]

00:16:24   wasn't about the beauty of the ocean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/984">TS</a>]

00:16:25   that's the first time that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/985">TS</a>]

00:16:28   they're their technology and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/988">TS</a>]

00:16:29   ambition combined to let them realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/989">TS</a>]

00:16:31   that they can do that with movies that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/991">TS</a>]

00:16:33   you know that everybody doesn't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/993">TS</a>]

00:16:35   be about that but that but that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/995">TS</a>]

00:16:36   do that so if it's appropriate for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/996">TS</a>]

00:16:38   story it had the equivalent of the magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/998">TS</a>]

00:16:41   hour in your movies because it adds to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:43   the experience and everyone I think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:45   finding less what I think about i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:46   about those various water seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:48   inefficient even during the credits they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:50   had that little scenes with the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:52   waving in the water and everything I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:54   think that makes it stand out from and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:56   hope i hope they're going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:57   something similar with brave because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:59   they have a similar type of environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:00   there but we'll say a beautiful movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:03   and the the fact that you never really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05   forget that you're in the water but II [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:09   and the quality of the water the quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:11   of the fish tank with the junk in it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:14   I mean that's just yeah they're in nemo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:16   it i believe was it was a number one for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:21   a while was the highest-grossing Pixar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:24   movie until story story story three came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:26   out and and it you know rightfully a hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:30   because yeah it's a it's it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:33   great movie i think it's easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:34   overlook at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:34   because you know well it's nemo but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:37   it's it's great and my kids to this day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:40   can't see a clown fish in a fish tank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:43   without app proclaiming it Nemo there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:49   a problem we apologize for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:51   extinction of the clownfish but uh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:57   and funny and again you get the picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1077">TS</a>]

00:17:59   has this tendency to time kind of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:02   think say well we were going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:03   alternate between the kind of main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:05   storyline and be kind of wackier zanier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:08   story which might not work as a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:10   story but we were gonna have it and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:12   Nemo himself in the fish tank with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:15   cast of wacky characters like Allison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:18   Janney is in there and brad garrett is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20   in there and but Jesus willem dafoe yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:22   i thought was willing to follow as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:23   leader of the fish tank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:26   you know that's wacky with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:28   interesting characters that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:29   like really kind of wacky stuff and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:33   then there's the main kind of quest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:35   story which is also got Ellen DeGeneres [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:38   he's really funny and Albert Brooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:39   again well-known person comedian funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:42   but not you know just they're being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:46   Albert Brooks and no kid no kid knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:48   who Howard process know now he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50   invented what we'll we'll make a fortune [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:52   but have Albert Brooks headline on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:54   animated kids movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:56   brilliant alright well for my second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:58   round pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1138">TS</a>]

00:18:59   I am gonna go with I'm gonna go with toy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:02   story 2 to our point about sequels and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:07   being disappointed sequels this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:09   going to be a direct-to-video sequel I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:11   think and at some point somebody saw it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:14   and said no this is good this should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:15   an actual might even bid Steve John as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:18   it was it was the reverse that a disney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:20   was going to make toy story 2 and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:22   a piece of crap and they said let's make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:25   an actual toy story to tell a story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:27   through is even worse we're through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:29   entire movie yes I story to was sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:31   the plan was to make it crappy and pixar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:34   second and we're not we're not we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:36   make a crappy we're going to go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:37   story three they started to make you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:39   happy movie actually had a garden and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:41   throughout the crappy movie version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:43   our toy story toy story 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:48   interesting you know they went back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:50   they made bikes like my like we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:51   back we're making a sequel to toy story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:53   but it it tells a new story it expands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:59   the world it is the first punch in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:05   gut of many to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:07   yes with that and one of the best I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:09   think maybe the bit when she loved me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:11   the song by Randy Newman is performed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:13   sarah mclachlan / / Jessie the cowgirl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:16   story of you know basically toy story 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:20   is that song in an entire movie with and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:26   and if it's you know in minutes that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:29   sad that points to but it that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:32   the first time we've got that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:34   unexpected punch in the gut emotionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:36   and you know it's got Kelsey Grammer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:40   it lives in a box and it's got way night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:44   as the crazy collector which says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:46   something about like how not to view a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:48   toy have a have a toy on my shelf in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:51   in my house that's a it's it's a micro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:54   not actually but it's a replica and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:57   still in the box and every time my kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:59   say we need to get that out of the box i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:01   think god i i i i am like the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:05   prospector and toys to return to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:07   bodies kids never been opened its a toy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:09   that hasn't been played with it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:11   horrible perversion and I ought to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:13   rip it out of the box you are stinky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:15   Pete the podcaster I am I am stinky Pete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:19   that's right the stinky Pete the plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:21   against hot caster so a toy story 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:25   didn't didn't have to be it didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:27   to be good at all i believe it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:28   hundred percent rotten tomatoes right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:29   it's not just good it's great it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:32   got emotional depth at the first movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:34   didn't didn't even have it still I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:38   one of Pixar's very best which is saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:42   a lot because it was early and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:43   it's to be preferred over toy story 3 as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:45   well yeah I like toy story 3 a lot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:48   there's a scene you know the one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:51   most recent punches in the gut is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:53   seen toy story three at the end where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:56   basically something else my wife and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:59   were talking about it that's the scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:00   that basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:01   he is we're all gonna die there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:03   nothing you can do about it you might as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:05   well make friends with the people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:06   you've gotten life because in the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:07   we're all gonna die and there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:09   you can do and it's inevitable and oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:10   god oh god were doomed and they actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:12   have that whole moment and then it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:14   like oh and then there and then kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:16   they're saved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:17   that's right everything will be fine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19   they will live happily ever after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:20   meanwhile the parents the movie like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:22   god do is ruined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:26   yeah see the thing was three for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:28   though is the same thing that the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:29   issue that I sort of have with up which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:32   is that were bookended by these really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:33   great emotional moments and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:35   middle is this kind of pedestrian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:37   jailbreak movie and and so much of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:41   just a rehash of the character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:43   interactions that we've seen the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:44   David baby is like a statistically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:46   manipulative teddy bear I mean right no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:50   no that's great very good that that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:52   it's a very good jailbreak film but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:55   contrast a toy story 2 which i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:57   strong and end and carries that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1377">TS</a>]

00:23:00   emotional depth is kind of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:01   undercurrent you're obviously peaking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:03   the when she loved me moment but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:06   that the the whole film is kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:08   mean as soon as as we we have a woody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:13   meeting the rest of the roundup gang you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:14   know you've got this this sense of loss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:16   and loneliness and and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:19   abandonment that the other characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:22   felt you know when when everybody loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:24   woody and nobody cared about bullseye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:26   and stinky Pete and Jesse Jesse Jesse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:28   Jesse yes and in it i think it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:32   just so much stronger film because it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:34   holds onto that the whole way whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:36   toy story 3 you know again i think is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:38   in parts that good and then kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:43   loses it for me in the middle so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:45   it's easily the strongest I think of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:46   toy stories and that's the problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:49   the Toy Story franchise is that they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:50   they're running out of things for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:53   characters to do first movie was about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:54   was about woody you know and the invader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:57   buzz second movie had wooden bus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:59   together facing a challenge but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:00   secondary characters have always kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:03   been there for gags and we're kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:04   running out of we're running out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:06   character development for forwarded how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:09   many more slinkies are long jokes can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:11   you make ya for Woody and Buzz were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:13   running out of things to their character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:14   to do they both have relationships that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16   have sort of been established with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:17   other you know people in a way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:19   everything but at and but decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:21   characters had never been truly solid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:23   characters and they needed to give them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:24   something to do in toy story 3 but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:26   story three was more about Andy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:27   relationship with the toys you know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:31   pantomimed through the toys actions you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:34   know it was kind of a mirror image where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:36   at the end of the movie the boy has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:38   go through the same type of thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:39   slice themselves have to go to being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:40   abandoned so on and so forth but if in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:42   for what do you do with these characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:44   like the ones that we cared about were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:46   woody buzz his relationship with Andi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:49   and Andy's fan like that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51   everything seems to be all tied up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:53   now you have to like come up with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:54   sort of news that seems like a mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:56   to me Toy Story the next generation a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:59   whole new group until is now the girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:02   that they're left within in the box at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:04   the end of toy story 3 now she'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:06   going off to school and will be sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:09   again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:09   yeah I like it but now they're old hat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:11   like now they've been through it before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:12   now they're more of the grizzled veteran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:14   toys where they understand that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:16   this was their first owner you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:18   impression and he was their first owner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:20   addresses the sort of the Ark of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:21   toys life and encountering these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:23   toys who have been through that arc once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:25   before and come out worse for it shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:28   like now here's are our heroes coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:29   out of it and understanding that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:31   don't have to be bitter like the Baron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:33   you know it just seems like there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:34   much for them to go i don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:37   much of a new place them to go with a 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:38   right well my really think you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:40   really do is introduce a whole batch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:41   new characters and and that's gonna be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:43   disaster before it even starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:45   yeah well i mean if you make a new cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:47   cast of characters you if you decide to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:49   make an entirely new movie that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:51   just kind of making a new movie happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:53   to using toys as actors you could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:55   that successfully and just capitalized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:57   in Toy Story brand but i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1557">TS</a>]

00:26:00   think the other thing i want to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:00   speaking of the montage with jesse is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:04   my challenge to Pixar is the things they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:06   do in those montages I with is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:10   music and and scenes and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:12   where you're you're experiencing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:14   something that they're trying to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:16   you the loss of you know loss of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:17   innocent people getting all that type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:18   thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:19   look viewed from the perspective of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:22   have a situation that will never will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:23   never be in so it's like kind of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:25   allegory like a toy the person growing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:27   up not want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:28   play with the toy people can relate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:30   to real situations in their life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:31   their own relationships but it's but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:33   it's it it's by way of an analogy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:36   it's under montage my challenge that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:37   would to be to do a scene like that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:41   has a similar message but not as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:44   montage and head on and that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:47   hard to do like the greatest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:48   greatest movies have emotional scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:50   between peoples we're really talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:51   about what they're talking about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:52   it's not reminding you of something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:55   because it's an allegory or fable or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:59   fantastical situation it's like a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:00   one or whatever I think they they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:03   there shying away from but i think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:05   can do it like you can make you can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:07   that the text and not have it be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:09   subtext I and still pull it off I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:12   totally believe that they have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:13   strength to that's thus far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:15   maybe it's because they make kid movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:16   or whatever they mostly shied away for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18   the most of come at an angle sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:19   when you come in an angle that's how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:21   catches you because like we don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:23   that this toy is missing its owner like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:25   Arizona is growing up and not being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:27   interested in playing with it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:28   because we know where that's not the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:32   text of the story is not what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:33   getting upset about its the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:34   you-know-whats relating to if you gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:37   us a real scene where someone was in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:40   relationship that was drifting apart or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:42   whatever a home movie about that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:45   will accept that too is just so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:47   harder to do so I not that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:49   cheating so much but that the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:51   backed montage triggering childhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:55   feelings is even though they do it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:58   well it's there's a degree of difficulty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:01   that's not there that you know they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:03   to go to the next level deck do it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:04   real do it head-on make that the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:06   right and probably the closest they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:08   come to that with it would be with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:10   incredibles with the whole dynamic that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:12   that the that mr. incredible inelastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:15   will have it at home and I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:17   probably why that is so strong right or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:21   again they're elastic are wrapping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:23   around the people like that's that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:25   that's head-on that's not reminding you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:27   of what it's like to protect your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:28   children its that's the story she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:30   doing that in the story so one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:33   questions I that I was gonna get to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:35   very and i thought i'd ask now because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:37   of what John just said which is what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:41   want to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:41   you think pixar should do next not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:44   necessarily they're very next movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46   because we know that's going to be brave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:47   which is set in Scotland as a female [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:49   protagonist and I it looks like going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:53   the wikipedia and wikipedia doesn't lie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:55   there is a monster's inc sequel in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:57   offing I'm just looking more generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:59   where should pixar go next what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:02   you like to see pics are do maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:04   outside their comfort zone a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:06   what you know what would you like to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:08   from them that you know as a as the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:13   big thing that makes you sit up and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:14   all I you know this is something new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:17   from pixar one of things i think john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:19   mentioned in his podcast that I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:21   thought about is doing something that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:23   really a through-and-through a PG movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:26   or p or even our but let's just say PG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:29   because I think you'll ever do in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:30   but a PG movie something that is in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:33   genre that they're not comfortable with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:35   I mean John mentioned you know that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:37   took a shot at a romantic comedy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39   ended up kind of killing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:41   aurorae a kind of a kind of Moorish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:44   detective kind of thing I just I wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:46   if they there is something outside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:49   their comfort zone that they that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:52   could do that would be you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:55   interesting to see i'm also interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:57   in the fact that andrew stanton is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1797">TS</a>]

00:29:58   directing John Carter of Mars I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:01   has directed which is coming out next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:02   year that's for disney so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:06   really pixar but there are not a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:08   pics our names in the credits and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:10   a live action sci-fi movie and it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:13   you see the trailers and I did I did Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:15   Riggins has come a long way from Dillon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:17   Texas tunis that's pulling me out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:20   a little bit to Mars but but on one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:23   level I I'm fascinated by that because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:25   wonder is this in some ways the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:28   live-action Pixar movie a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:30   maybe you maybe just a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:32   and I think doesn't Brad Bird have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:35   live-action movie to that he's working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:36   on so I'm kind of fascinated by that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:38   these animations Edwards doing a mission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:40   impossibles any you're right he is he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:43   doing mission impossible 4 which which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:46   wouldn't be excited about but when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:47   think mission impossible from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49   director of the incredibles interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:51   Redbird Redbird can do anything i watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:53   this play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:54   ya on that level but some suggestions I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:56   made in my podcast kind of still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:58   standing I was what i was trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1858">TS</a>]

00:30:59   online was come up with the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:01   ridiculous things I can think of like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:04   was immediately say you know go radar i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:07   go photorealistic which no one dares do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:11   because it's so hard to do but like at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:13   certain point it's going to be there for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:15   the taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:16   you know and not cartoonish things real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:19   anatomy real physics hundred percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:21   photorealistic wally was really close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:23   it's easier to do machines but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25   opening sequences of Wally most nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27   on the screen really reads as a cartoon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:29   even the cockroaches pretty realistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:31   looking but eventually it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:34   sitting there right in front of you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:35   somebody like so do we know we can do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:37   now we've got subsurface scattering we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:40   can do skin that doesn't look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:41   plastic do we wanna go full photo but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:45   but but i thought now we're thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:46   more about this is that it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:49   best for them to sneak up on it and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51   the easiest way for them to transition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:53   into things that are outside their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:55   comfort zone I feel like is sci-fi and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:58   it's not hard sci-fi but serious syfy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:02   where there is yeah at least the serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:06   i is say like the wrath of connor empire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:09   strikes back where you have to fund [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:10   relatively light hearted movie but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:13   not really a kids movie it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:15   bit too intense for kids and give it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:18   sort of a dark sci-fi premise that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:22   be a way I think pixar can find its way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:24   out of the child movie ghetto by having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:27   a pg-13 or PG but have it be sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:32   gritty dark sci-fi action adventure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:35   movie that reads like the you that you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:38   watch the same way you would watch you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:39   know empire strikes back or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:41   like that I can't think of a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:42   darker so maybe later mate runner but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:44   not that dark like not only piece like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:47   Blade Runner like you know justjust a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:49   good a sci-fi movie for teenagers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:54   adults that's not not for kids and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:57   sci-fi is not that far from their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:58   comfort zone I feel and they haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:00   really done with the exception of Wally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:01   they haven't really really done that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03   like a new IP you know or don't or make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:07   it up make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:07   a making an adaptation of something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:10   that's not well-known don't pick another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12   philip k dick story and just come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:15   with something like that to to say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:17   boy this is really great sci-fi movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:19   that's it's not like transformers that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:21   an actual great movie and also happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23   to be science fiction that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:24   science-fiction fans like sort of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:26   game of thrones is done for fantasy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:28   know what I mean we're Game of Thrones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:29   is a fantasy thing but it's it raises [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:33   the level of the best of television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35   dramas well they can make a sci-fi movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:37   that raised the level of the best of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:40   know action adventure science-fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:42   human drama was it just happens to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:44   sci-fi that I think is their way in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:46   verses going all the way for the I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:49   know for the realistic murder mystery to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:51   our thing which I think might be because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:54   the people would say like all we can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:56   take it seriously like you can't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:57   know is it you know make schindler's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:59   list but with CJ you gotta go get there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:02   in a world that is not even close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:04   being our world so people are a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:06   more accepting of the deviations from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:07   reality right suspension of disbelief is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:10   already there right but still have it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:12   you know a real real live movie for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:16   adults not kids movies and very you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:18   do with trying to do with no comedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20   relief like that would be the challenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:21   pixar expects are everything they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:23   there's something like funny awry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25   it can you make a good quality movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:27   without lots of humor it's possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:29   especially in sci-fi you can make a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:30   exciting action adventure sci-fi movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:33   that's not funny joke time right you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:36   have some jokes in it but it needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:38   more than that like serenity is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:40   a pretty good movie but it's got its got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:42   jokes in it but miles up with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:44   wheeling the whedon is deep down and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:47   he's had everything we needed service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49   uncensor I could remember I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:51   advocate serenity being the model for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:53   picture sci-fi movie but it's to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:55   springs to mind is a fun sci-fi movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:57   that still got some jokes in it but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2097">TS</a>]

00:35:00   not the not the point it i get on back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:02   to Empire which will eventually podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:04   about which has jokes in it and is funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:06   but takes itself a hundred percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:07   seriously like it its it takes itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:09   seriously as a movie and all possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:12   levels and I think they can make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:13   science-fiction movie that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:16   derivative anything that if they again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:18   if they get an equivalent of brad bird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:19   who has this great idea for an awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:21   sci-fi movie that takes itself seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:22   and he's super talented like brad bird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:25   there you go alright well i doubt i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:29   pick up where you left off Jason and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:30   I'd like to see what would happen if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:31   they tried their hand at a live-action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:32   film I mean obviously the animation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:35   is what they became known for and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:37   really their calling card and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:39   they've excelled at it to such an extent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:41   that you almost watch the film and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:44   forget that it's animated at times it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:46   and that's really what's so impressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:47   about it he'll step back once in awhile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:50   you look at the of the same like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:52   Paradise Falls vista and up or again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:55   although the great underwater stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:57   finding nemo and you go wow that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:58   that's really impressive stuff but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:01   reason pixar films are so great is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:03   because of the animation it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:04   because the animation is so fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:06   and well done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:07   it's because the story and the process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:09   that they they put together to come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:10   with a story and the scripting and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:12   characters is is so fantastically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:15   conceived and I'd be really curious to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:18   see what would happen if they took that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:19   same process and and applied it to live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:23   action and we've seen you know how close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:26   to two storyboards films can look these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:30   days with CGI and whatnot you know with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:32   a with watch man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:33   watchmen and other comic book films that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:34   are almost no for no copies from comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:38   panels for instance you know so i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40   i think they could really almost go down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:43   to that level that they do with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:44   animation where they a storyboard every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:46   single singing every single you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:47   facial tic and and I don't know maybe to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:52   some extent the actors would repeal the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:53   fact that they were being told you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:55   follow such a strict formula but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:59   they could end up with something very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:01   interesting if they went down that path [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:02   I what you said actually makes me think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:05   the other the other thing they could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:06   and I'm not sure whether there's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:07   creative reason to do this or not but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09   you know history is littered with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:10   attempts to combine live action with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:12   animation and roger roger rabbit is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:15   example and you don't do and Ike dancing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:18   with ya know that I think they pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:21   much peaked with that with that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:22   incredible mr. limpet and it's all been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:24   downhill since then well I anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:25   something like what if she's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:27   have to count a good world you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:29   was sky captain interesting what if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31   found a a good way to kind of mix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:34   together beyond Fred Willard showing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:36   on a on a screen some way to 300 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:39   yeah well I mean yeah there are lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:42   think of example there are lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:43   theoretically live-action movies that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:46   are out of a CG practically a mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48   star wars sorry the Star Wars prequels i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50   have to mention it here with their whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52   sections of that I look at my just think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:55   you know the bladder is this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:57   animated feature at this point yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:59   race [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2279">TS</a>]

00:37:59   yeah some of the stories that i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:01   the most successful because like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:03   close-up scenes of that stupid kid look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:05   horrible and the whole rest of the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:07   which only exists in a computer looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:09   great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:09   yeah yeah so you know it wouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:13   that much for them to cross over into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:14   something that is indescribable about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16   whether it's an animated film or live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:18   action but you're still saying human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:20   human actors you're still saying like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:21   that's that's the where the line is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:23   drawn it's like what your main character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:24   is a human being and maybe you filmed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:26   front of a green screen and it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:27   stylized like 300 or our sin city or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:30   something like that or maybe that's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:31   lifetime movie where it's where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:33   their human characters who are humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:35   but there are alien characters who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:38   going to be CGI anyway except that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:39   they're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:40   pixar animated characters i saw that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:44   though the waters of mars i saw John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:46   Carter of Mars or John Carter whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:48   they're playing cards so that trailer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:49   and that was much that didn't look too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:51   great to me like no i don't i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:53   rather see them do the final fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:56   experience within thing the right way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:58   two decades three decades later like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:00   holy spirit of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:02   yeah that eventually it's gonna be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:03   for the taking it don't make it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:05   humans if you're afraid make the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:07   thing make like you know a deepness in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:09   the sky but with no humans you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:11   if you're afraid of making human right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:12   pick something else first but or make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:14   your humans slightly stylized or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:17   something but but look like reliving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19   things like Bobby or something you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:20   like they're strange-looking if we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:22   I believe the highest grossing film of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:24   all time is essentially a sci-fi movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:25   with live-action and maybe people put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:28   together which is avatar so maybe that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30   been done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:31   yeah well I'm it i just think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:33   harder to do I think pixar strength is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:35   because that's the whole thing all their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:37   worlds other piece and consistent friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:39   will decide you know that there are also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:42   automatic brother will eventually for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:46   guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:47   eventually why is that red Willard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:49   should be John Ratzenberger damn it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:52   should be anybody you know speaking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:54   that the first time I saw it yeah I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:55   like what the hell right but the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:57   time I thought didn't even register [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2397">TS</a>]

00:39:59   didn't register that it was live action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:01   I guess I had already gotten over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:02   shock and somehow actually fit into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:04   movie the second and third and fourth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:06   time like I don't know why it fits in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:07   and I the fact that they picked him as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:09   the actor that fits to like he does a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:11   little stick I'm like yeah you know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:13   my favorite human in the movies i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:15   actually thought it was pretty cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:16   until I say until I realized we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:17   going to see animated people later and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:19   that's what killed it for now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:21   last thing I wanted to to do is go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:23   around and talk about i want to turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:25   negative i want to go i wanna go- [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:27   full-on negative I I want you to select [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:29   a movie or part of a movie some put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:32   something in pixar that we haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:34   covered yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:35   ideally that is your least favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:39   thing that Pixar has done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:41   who would like to be negative alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:42   I'll go first I've gotta this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:46   probably isn't fair because i've only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:47   seen his movie I think twice maybe three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:51   times but it's not one that we own so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:53   haven't seen it a thousand times but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:54   can see this movie sticks with me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:58   least I and i don't i don't think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:01   bad movie like it's not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:03   actively bad and nothing in it i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:06   point to it that the just it just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:08   just doesn't work for me I guess my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:09   movies ratatouille [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:10   that's the only movie we haven't yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:12   mentioned all this time talking at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:13   hasn't come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:15   yeah now that it has its moments it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:17   certainly looks beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:19   I I appreciate what it's trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:21   but it just does not hold together as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:23   cohesive movie for me that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:25   interested in or that i find myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:26   thinking about are coming back to or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:28   wanted my children to watch or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:30   like that so that's like the worst thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:32   you can say about it's just it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:33   blonde again I haven't seen cars to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:35   maybe cars 2 will have the same effect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:37   on me i don't know but i hate cars which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:40   I've seen billions of times it it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:43   certain charm to it that you know and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:46   I'm a car guy so maybe that helps a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:48   little bit too it's certainly not their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:49   best work but ratatouille is flat from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:53   flatter than cars even so that is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:55   that is my bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:56   I'm it again and maybe it's not fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:57   maybe we need to watch it a few more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2517">TS</a>]

00:41:58   times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2518">TS</a>]

00:41:59   and refresh myself on it but just just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:01   given my personal impression of its and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:05   stay with me all right Steve I I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:08   hard to come up with the the worst thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:10   i can say which probably my least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:13   favorite film is it might not be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:14   popular choice I i think one it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:17   do it for me the most is probably toy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:20   story huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:22   and that's it's it's very cool was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:25   innovative for the time I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:27   problem for me was I didn't actually see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:29   toy story until i had already seen a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:31   bug's life I i think it was after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:34   finding nemo that i finally got around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:35   to watching the first toy story and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:39   much of it is just pics are finding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:41   their feet and so much it there's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:44   much reliance on the toy ponds which are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:46   good they're funny and the timeless puns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:48   as timeless as pleasant as can be i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:52   a joss whedon jokes and that one too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:53   right but at the same time there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:56   narrative isn't that strong the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:58   look funky you know I i don't think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:02   characters really come into their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:03   until the second film and a lot of ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:06   it is it is they're figuring things out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:08   right and it's not sure I can forgive it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:10   for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:11   yeah but but it's just it doesn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:13   doesn't do the same thing for me as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:15   other ones too and it's it's largely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:16   because the narrative just isn't strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:18   and they haven't really gotten that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:19   whole they're starting to you know with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:22   the scene with the with the buzz trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:25   to take flight and not being able to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:27   it and then the irritating randy newman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:29   tinkling along the background there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:31   they're starting to get that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:32   emotional resonance thing going but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:34   just not really that strong yet and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:38   think even ratatouille i think is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:40   better for me while i agree with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:42   that it'sit's kind of blah overall as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:44   film it does have kind of a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:46   emotional resonance in places and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:48   somehow for some reason even though i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:52   not that invested in the character that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:53   the scene where the food critic each the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:56   ratatouille and he's immediately brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:58   back to his childhood that that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:00   nails me for some reason it almost makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:02   the rest of the film uh you know much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:05   more tolerable for me and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:07   nothing like that in Toy Story I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:09   it'sit's just not it's not there yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:11   it's still great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:13   but it's just not on a par with the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:15   of the film's I was going to mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:18   ratatouille as well there's a scene i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:23   thinking of a particular although you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:24   mentioned the critic is interesting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:26   is a really careful line they walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:28   because there are movies where there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:31   characters of critics and they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:34   savage as being talentless people who do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:37   nothing but tear down other people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:38   work and every time I see that in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:40   movie I want to throw something at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:42   screen because you know again criticism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:44   uh because because I I am I in my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:49   there is nothing more classless then a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:54   maker of movies getting revenge at movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:58   critics by by insulting them in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:02   next movie and you see this hat it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:05   happens right at tooheys depiction of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:07   that critic is right on the edges peter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:09   o'toole i think is the voice of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:10   critic um because on one level he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:13   portrayed as being this just miserable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:15   son of a gun who hates everything and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:19   he's mean and you know and you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:21   please him and and yet when you finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:25   see him there is that scene where he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:28   taken back to the reasons that he always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:30   loved food in the first place and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:33   he raves about it and it humanizes him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:35   on one level where i kinda want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:36   forgive it on another level though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:38   feel like what it's really saying is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:41   only critics would remember that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:43   love watching movies they would stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:46   criticizing it and being so mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:48   which is just a biggest load of horsemen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:51   that you could possibly imagine and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:54   and I you know honestly it as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:57   education as i have heaped upon brad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2757">TS</a>]

00:46:00   bird for the incredibles um if he if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:04   he's the guy who hatched that concept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:07   he should be embarrassed for himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:08   because it's it's it's it's ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:12   people you know you know what your movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:16   maker people get to criticize your work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:17   suck it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:19   so anyway that that's an offense me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:22   that's not the scene that bothers me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:23   most about to we've seen that bothers me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:25   the most in ratatouille [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:26   the scene that I think undercuts the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:28   entire premise of the movie i believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:30   that they're in this fantasy world where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:31   a rat to grab onto a kid's head and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:35   him make food by a real filled with hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:39   it connects to his limbs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:40   it's amazing of the hair pulls on his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:44   brain and his anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:46   that alone should be public health and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:48   undercuts p hair stuff to cook so public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:51   health hazard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:52   it's the scene where they bring all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:54   rats from the sewers of Paris into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:56   kitchen because the kitchen staff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:58   quit and you and there's a moment where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:01   I'm sitting here thinking well this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:02   odd because these are the vermin is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:04   in the kitchen but the rats are friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:06   so it's okay that part doesn't bother me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:08   what bothers me is in an attempt to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:10   think to smooth out people's concern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:12   about rats in the kitchen they show a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:14   scene where the rats are sterilized by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:16   being run through the dishwasher and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:18   then the rats come out of the dishwasher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:20   and I think we're meant to think is oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22   what a relief the rats are clean now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:24   instead all I think is wow that ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:27   smelly wet wraps in the kitchen and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:30   at that moment the entire movie just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:32   completely careens off the rails because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:34   I've it took me like 10 minutes to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:36   back to accepting what this movie was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:38   because it completely blew me out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:40   premise ipad that way you apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:42   didn't wear underwear that lemon fresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:43   joy is actually a cure for the black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:45   Pike wet rats in the kitchen it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:48   the wet rats it was even the rats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:50   it was the wet rats in the kitchen just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:52   push me over the edge a wet rat will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:54   make you dinner now sir mr. but Mr film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:56   critic or mister mister critic who is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:59   miserable sob because he doesn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:01   anything because all he does is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:02   criticize it good news the white rats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:05   are making your dinner tonight will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:06   excellent and the idiot kid who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:10   controlled by his hair anyway so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:12   I'm saying is the cars is my least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:14   favorite of all but you hate everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:18   is your critic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:19   no I I you know cars just lays there for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:22   me Brett relatives got highs and lows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:24   there's some good stuff in it i like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:26   like some of the stuff with Remy the rat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:27   and his family and there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:28   kind of rat jokes and you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:31   romantic element with the kid and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:32   girl in the it doesn't really work that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:35   well but you know some stuff with patton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:37   oswalt you know he's likeable and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:41   characters is interesting cars is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:44   one that feels just kind of artificial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:46   and and blame to me and but you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:50   I still it's fine i have the DVD of it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:52   not like I hate it but I would rank cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:54   beretta to a just hate the wet rats and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:57   ratatouille hate it when i mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2937">TS</a>]

00:49:00   that tonight anyway I want to thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:04   guys for being a part of this marathon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:05   yet another marathon two-part and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:07   comfortable podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:08   wow I can't shut up it just can't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:11   can't end now let's talk about future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:13   now but let's talk about the shorts will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:15   mention all the pixar shorts and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:17   wanted to get to the shore to dammit i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:19   forgot about that will have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:20   importantly really been a pause in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:21   action i would've brought that up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:23   third half of the show we rock style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:25   ah yes exactly uh anyway so pixar makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:31   great movies and if you're jaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33   childless person who has never seen them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:35   what is wrong with you why did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:37   listen to this podcast but you should go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:38   see them now because it generally pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:40   good except for the ones that we said 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:43   k alright so thanks to everyone for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:45   listening i would also like to thank my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:47   guest Steve let's thanks very much thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:50   you sir and John syracuse oh thanks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:52   being here thank you and until next time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:55   I'm chasing snow for the uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57   thanks for listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/2997">TS</a>]

00:50:09   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:19   well it's it's the new hope of pixar a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:22   new hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:23   toy story co co this is flipped around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:27   now don't know this is exactly what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:29   say about your help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:30   yeah I I didn't listen that pocket haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:35   ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZWGVug/3035">TS</a>]