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sorry this is like twice as the
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incomparable podcast number 47 july 2011
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we're back on the incomparable and yes
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this is the second part of our epic
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two-part discussion of Star Wars i will
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continue to be joined by John siracusa
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dan moore and Scott healthy and
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recognized and let's pick up the
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discussion so the millennium fawlcon
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comes out of hyperspace and finds the
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ruins of Alderaan also can i just say
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how awesome it is when the million
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fucking jump to Lightspeed that is the
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moment you know of any moment in the
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movie the one that might grab me was
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like holy crap i wish i lived in this
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universe the jump to light speed and
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it's such a simple effect but so
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affecting all the stars turning into
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lines it looks so often but it's still
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think it looks awesome
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it still does look awesome you know what
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makes it look awesome the twist at the
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end and that doesn't go watch back it to
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see that the magician's trick the slight
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that's what does it oh you mean when
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they get from the perspective outside
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when you seal it with a twist oh yeah
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star your lawyers and they do a little
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twist without the Swiss no good if you
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ever played star raiders on the atari
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8-bit you got to do it yourself at the
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exact same effect slightly isolated you
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need the sound and everything you need
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and that the interior which looks so
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real and the fact that you can do stars
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and have them look real business
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pinpoints of light that's just like the
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perfect union of like what was possible
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and what what's the coolest thing you
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could do that would look a hundred
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percent real and it was that affect
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anyone you know I'm in my thirties now
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and I still want i still want to jump to
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Lightspeed that's all I'm saying
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who wouldn't we all want you to jump to
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Lightspeed but don't don't live on
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Alderaan
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I you know I hear that incidentally
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though the real estate prices create
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yeah you know you know what's good about
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this movie that they would
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there's nothing they would have done
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they made Star Wars now they would have
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guaranteed they would have had some
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stupid scene showing people on Alderaan
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like with their families and their dogs
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and like their grandmothers an apple pie
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like guaranteed they would do that is
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like how can you feel any compassion for
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these people let's have let's have a dub
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montage not using weapons grandmother's
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eating apple pie that would be it
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yes holding American flags kissing
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babies with puppies in their hands cut
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to Princess Leia's grandmother adoptive
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grandmother eat
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by a cop is about to retire the next day
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she looks up and I planet was
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uninhabited like maybe we shouldn't feel
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so bad maybe they were lying about it
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being Alderaan
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I just saying that you know they didn't
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they had enough faith in the audience to
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realize that when they blow up the whole
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planet will feel bad for the people we
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don't need to see the people's home
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lives to like feel bad whereas nowadays
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in any disaster movie so they're going
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to blow up like you know it's like
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independence there one of those types of
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movies they're gonna blow up Japan they
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got to show us the Japanese family like
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cowering and feel like we understand
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there are people there don't wait let's
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not use your parents example
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yes soon and respecting like they always
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show you know the foreign cities and
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they can't just drives me nuts yeah I
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think you're absolutely right they would
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show a dog minimalism adopt-a-family a
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dog and a grandmother and behold Iranian
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dog that's the universal sign for doom
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that you made herself from scratch
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first he did it and we have any would-be
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product placement it would be like
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pillsbury pie crust
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oh wow well actually so you talk about
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that but that's one of the that's a
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strange segue but one of the things
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about having this be set in a galaxy far
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far away that it's an interesting choice
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that you know and i think they have to
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put that up front what they're really
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saying there is this is not a story
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about our future
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this is more mythical than that as a
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result though you know we're not
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anywhere where there's earth stuff which
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means that you can't cut any corners at
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by having some product or something
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that's recognizable from Earth at all
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because you're not anywhere in our
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future or anything which is a challenge
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well not intentionally anyway they did
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the opposite of product placement they
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they imported stuff from the star wars
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universe to our world our world to blow
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well you just blew my mind the first
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product placement and we pay them money
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so although apparently they do have
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functions in this universe as XKCD
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pointed sure what the hell is an
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aluminum falcon and see the great robot
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chicken line
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we may blew up the Death stop
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o.o is a what the hell is an aluminum
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falcon look at you I'm just dealing with
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a lot of crap right now it Death Star
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blown up by a bunch of teenagers you
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know I didn't mean to snap
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oh the Emperor is not pleased
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alright where are we dr. B movie tractor
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been no meme that's no moon
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so so great scene they come out of
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hyperspace and Ben obi-wan says that's
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no moon and and how solo expressing
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skepticism again because that's what he
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does and then there's that moral reasons
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I think the old man is from its let's
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get out of here and it's too late
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Oh stuck in a tractor beam look at
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meeting for next small moon think i can
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get it before yes there is almost in
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that's no moon
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it's a space station too big the space
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station
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very bad feeling a part on the ship
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I think you're right reverse joy lock in
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the auxiliary power
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why are we still going towards fun
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trying to harness and there's gotta be
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something you can do there's nothing I
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can do about him full power and Chester
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going to be related
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complan but the alternatives to fighting
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wonder where they got the idea for a
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tractor beam maybe you star trek oh this
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first movie has a lot of has a lot of
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Technology you never see again that
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you've got that circle-shaped blaster
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that its layout on attending singer
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that's just because you never see that
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again right you got the tractor beams
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not really about your games in the
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opening scene when they walk onto the
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ambassadorship yeah but they don't say
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you know I and I they don't have a
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visual effect the tractor beam anyway
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but it seems like there's a lot of
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things in this movie they decided were
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not at an important part of the star
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wars universe and we just wouldn't be
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seeing too much of again lightsaber is
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much more of those you know circle shape
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sunbeams not so much the Empire gave up
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on studying people you kill everybody
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another thing I love about that robot
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chicken noticed is that the guy says
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said set the set the blast study and
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play immediately like kills high like
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she doesn't care she's not being taken
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alive she's gonna kill all you for
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stupids bad shot stormtroopers
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stormtroopers a only Imperial
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Stormtroopers or so percent against you
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know the bar and that's that's the the
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ultimate question right the fight
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between the stormtroopers and the red
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shirts from Star Trek the rest he's got
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a guy in the river troopers gotta shoot
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some you know that they will kill
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themselves will be just a match to us
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our cable off a cliff here the red
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shirts with die of starvation and start
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to really sure that you just each other
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that's exactly what would happen
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sergeant so so when you talk again when
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you talk about loving the Millennium
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Falcon one of the things that i love
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about the Millennium Falcon is that it
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is the smuggling ship and so the when
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they get my cowboy the tractor beam
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they're gonna be brought in what's going
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to happen now how are they gonna get out
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of this one the answer is that they they
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basically close themselves up in little
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hidden compartments in the Millennium
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Falcon what else can it do that doesn't
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make any sense because in the beginning
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they scan the escape pods like oh
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they're no life-forms there and then
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later they scan and they're like oh look
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their droids look what get your scanner
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technology together shielded it's it's
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totally shield because it's a smuggler
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ship it's brilliant they've got a fake
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image of I don't know if something can
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droid machinery
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whenever something goes wrong and I'm
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just glad that those deck plates for
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things which are not probably intended
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to smuggle people have releases on the
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inside like like the trunk of your car
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and air holes in their holes they all
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held their breath only like three of
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them need to breathe but that moment
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always get cracks me up that like a the
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kind of classic movie vibe or so they
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have this game go in and then they bring
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the camera and you're like hey where are
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they right and they do the musical sting
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just a little crack on the floor comes
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up it's the so corny but like somehow
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you just buy it at this type of movie
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your cat's a you guys down there
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give us a hand yeah the storm the storm
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troopers are really not very competent
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wherever they are the worst lackeys ever
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i really enjoy in this movie that you
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get the little bits like I love the
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scene later where been deactivated
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attacked me the two guys it just like
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talking
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look at you see those new 238 yeah
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they're pretty cool like yeah that's the
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you know thing that the other things
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that were ruined
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you know what they should do is find one
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really good soldier and then clone him
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about you know what shut up now they
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will never wonder who those
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stormtroopers are we will never know we
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will never find know that they just
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walked by and they go hey did you see
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Vader he got he floated a cup of coffee
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/ friend history it's kind of like Apple
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employees talking about Steve Jobs
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behind his back as the vibe you do not
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want to be in a turbolift with there's a
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divide third theater where do you which
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level of the Death Star you recuperate
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what do you what exactly do you do there
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and overthinking at combat a whole one
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on what do the stormtroopers really
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think of Darth Vader it basically mining
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this territory of like today like him to
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make fun of him behind his back at the
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afraid of him
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you know I don't way what's the what's
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the deal there also they have the black
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storm troopers who are the pilots of the
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TIE fighter right so they're going to
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uniform is not a race that you don't
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like steel Jimmy Walker was gonna play
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that nobody got like it's like Darth
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Vader's a cousin or something
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it's just a suit dude well you're not
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going to get anywhere the same color
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the flight suits are black because it's
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camouflage in space it's also very spot
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pains me to say that at and it is very
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slimming because those guys are actually
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could drop a few pounds to fit into the
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TIE fighter
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well i have an explanation for those
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students for Jason if you really wanted
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the reason why they have the big full
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face mask you know like Darth Vader is
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because the inside of the TIE fighters
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don't have life support because they're
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built as cheaply as they possibly can be
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so there's no air in there and they're
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not pressurized so they need to be
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essentially wearing a spacesuit inside
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the fire they also have no ratio pink
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and black is slimming
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so why not exactly so that's the actual
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official Star Wars universe explanation
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the Empire loves its fashion also also
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it looks cool
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it does look cool so they the the
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stormtroopers are incompetent and they
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break into the death star and then goes
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off to turn off the tractor beam and and
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I think you'll find this pretty us time
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for fisticuffs
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it's never taken a space movie people
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going to punching each other yeah
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there'll be some fisticuffs sure and
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some blasters and and what and maybe my
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what I think it's the funniest scene in
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the movie which is a han Solo trying to
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explain to the guy on the other end of
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the radio what's going on w hen should I
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everything's under control
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situation normal what happened I like
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weapons malfunction but everything's
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perfectly all right now we're fine we're
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all fine here now
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thank you are you having a water-
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negative we have a reactor leak here now
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units lockdown largely very dangerous
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man what your operating number
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conversation anyway that is that is one
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of the one of the brief moments that
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reminds you that occasionally George
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Lucas could write a funny bit of
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dialogue I'm I always assume that our
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support and provide anything is fine
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kiss me and tell me how are you was
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added by him because it's not always all
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right with that
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yeah just like the I know in a later
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yeah I don't know yeah it seems like it
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seems like it's applet so garbage trash
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collector another memorable memorable
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set-piece and something that I also took
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away one with the two sons as a kid was
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the air down the garbage and there's a
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monster in the garbage with a you know
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and I there's that I mean this there's a
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couple of lines in that scene 2 i really
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enjoy the understand why there's a
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monster in the trash compactor
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I never did it's like rats you can't get
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rid of him but it's a trash compactor
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life finds away we learn anything from
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jurassic park like i loved what i love
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that i know guys they're everywhere
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he's not gonna have a very long life
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style lifespan and it will come from how
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often do they use the trash compactors
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apparently not long enough he started
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very small someone flushed them down the
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toilet like a pet alligator and then
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grows to a huge size and I like the fact
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that this garbage on the Death Star the
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vault the same thing with the University
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of course there would be garbage on the
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desktop / they do with it was compacted
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you know it as opposed to just being
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like everything is magic and it's the
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future and we don't have bathrooms are
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garbage or anything like that
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although started stories apparently
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shoot him in space before they jump into
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hyperspace
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once they turn on stanford a trash
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compactor the monster knows that it's
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gonna get squished and it leaves and
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co-star else you say somewhere else
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that's what saves Luke I think is that I
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thought were saved and then they realize
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they're going to be squished to death i
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do love that exchange though where he's
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got that the technical wrapped around
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his neck
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we're aware that that is a really funny
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segment all around because another great
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bit is that when they radio Threepio
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yeah he your dog and he saves them and
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he thinks that their shouts of
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excitement or they're horrible horrible
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death scripts because my metal body i
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was fast for three via always feeling
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the comments to it and and they do that
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they did they do a lot of stuff and like
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when your kid maybe you wouldn't get
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that part but also at that part they
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have the you know are two can't talk
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right you going here the reactions to
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them so the reaction of this point c-3po
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says i don't care what you know I don't
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care what the computer is telling you to
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shut down the guard you know they're
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basically relaying a piece of
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information about the the you know
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hyperdrive has been deactivated
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right right we're tracking has been
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played honestly say whatever i did but
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that's the regular text with the next
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movie mi the hyperdrive generator i
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think i do the same thing for the video
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whenever listen stars you need to know
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that while you know he has it he's
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inappropriate he has information
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inappropriate times but he keeps cursing
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and the only one who could understand
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them because counsel telling him to be
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quiet so what-what also while we're on
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the death star any any other topics that
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people want to bring up we got we gonna
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there's nobody see Ben Kenobi sneaking
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around has start he's everywhere
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he's usually the force he's using the
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clouding their mind
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hey he's city the sneaky guy he's
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wearing old man slippers you can hear ya
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well further proof of the stormtroopers
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in competences wen han solo around the
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corner and they're like 5000
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stormtroopers all trying to shoot him
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there another 5,000 check this out in in
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subversion over there are five that got
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apparently saw even so a couple of storm
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yeah there's i basically they hit a dead
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end and they turn around because they
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think they're being chased and it turns
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out it was only one guy chase but he was
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always great
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yeah I think that's a great scene i just
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went back and looked you're right i was
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misremembering the city central computer
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thing from Empire I'm ashamed I'm little
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disappointed you job
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Wow well I don't have as much as this is
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actually this movie is burned into my
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brain that other one even more so
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so it's hard it does tend to take over
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alright so so darth vader and obi-wan
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Kenobi have a have a climactic kinda
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boring sort they have something sword
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battle you do kind of wish they'd spend
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a little more time on the classical
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classical fencing backstage kind of what
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I would call it tepid lightsaber batting
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when they bat against each other i think
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there's anyone i see the obi-wan Kenobi
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shuffle in there is little scene is
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listening to every other little striking
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out yet
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it's hilarious yo Kenobi shuffle dance
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move that all the kids were doing and in
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the end he just sees Luke and says
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alright and then holds up his lightsaber
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and this is turn but he does that was
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like that's why Alec Guinness smile
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that's a more of a million bucks right
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there when he does that little smile
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we did a when I was a when I think camp
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as you okay we filmed I took like a
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video production class and we filmed
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like a parody of star wars and the only
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joking that i really enjoyed what you
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want to video camp now i just add a camp
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that had a video class anyways much
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the only part of that they only part of
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that parody that still makes me laugh a
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bit is that we had the scene where you
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know he gets you know that they're
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fighting and then he lets himself get
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cut down and we cut to a shot of just
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like robot the floor and then like out
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of frame this janitors broom comes and
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sweeps it up off-screen I i think it's
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interesting that they are there's the
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the shot of Vader stepping on it like
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what we're doing
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where to go I couldn't have killed him
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at badly and stepping on the row matter
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and wondering where where he went well
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shouldn't he know what happened to him
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yes but it's funny that it that he you
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know again strange things with darth
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vader and said something about becoming
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yeah what he's saying but he's saying
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when he steps on is like this can't be
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it's not there it's not there but i need
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some coffee so you want the robe fit me
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because I think what he's saying is true
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free lightsaber also like that he gets
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shot like they shoot the door and it
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closes in front of them and it's like
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dude he's got the force like you
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couldn't stop the door from closing
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he was tired from his yet from a
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strenuous battle yet this particular
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scene has some of the worst lightsabre
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effects to the other ones were in sort
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of dark rooms and they have better
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lighting but they were still going with
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practical effects with the head-spinning
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sticks with reflective beads on them and
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sometimes in this thing you can see a
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spending stick with reflective BTW when
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they pointed down to the the tip is
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towards the camera
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yes like a very thin little yeah yeah
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it's endearing in some ways but like
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it's clear that green they had a limited
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budget can only spend so much i think
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they spent very wisely on you know space
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models flying through space over a blue
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screen and you know stuff like and
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assets and the fact that lightsabers are
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not all that like people think Star Wars
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lightsaber but if you watch Star Wars
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the original Star Wars is so little
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lightsaber and they are so not the most
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exciting thing this movie in fact I
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would say it going back to the scene
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with a with Luke in the nobody wants a
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little hot there on on tattooing that
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the second they turn that thing on
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that's all they need to do for this
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movie turn that sucker on show kids with
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a lightsaber is their jaws dropped open
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and then that would sustain them for the
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rest of the movie and the fact that they
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were shown again briefly as you know I
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had a flashlight with a colored tube
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yeah also I mean that because that
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effect was was just unbelievably good
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compared to every other space type of
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effect on the whole idea of you know a
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laser sword type that's all they need to
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turn that sucker on wave it around every
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kid one of those in two seconds and they
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didn't need to have you didn't need Luke
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wielding it for the complex Lucas Lucas
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flying a spaceship for the climax
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this movie that sound would it would
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have been handy if he'd been carrying
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that lightsaber all around the desktop
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with him
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well yeah he didn't know how to use it
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he would it's like that thing went
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around the internet the other day of
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like about what you would do if you had
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it's like using the final you're only
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one person tonight
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ninety-nine percent immediate accidental
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amputation
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so moving forward again to let see they
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escaped and there's a there's that they
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jump into little cannons and do in some
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a world war two movie
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yeah unnecessary but Lucas loves the
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world war two stuff
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well that's great stuff I i love the
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answer between the two guys that you
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know you get seem like you know a little
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bit Millennium Falcon you know
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come on baby hold come on baby hold
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together plus they had to try and stop
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them and they had to shoot him I mean
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they let him go but they had to make it
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the escape seem believable there needs
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to be much so that shows layer being
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cynical that's one of my favorite at
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addition to her character is that after
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this big battle where the two men are
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like yeah we did it she goes for it let
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us go which is football cynical and
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deflates the two male heroes with her
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not a bad bit of rescuing huh you know
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sometimes I amaze even myself
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that doesn't sound too hard they let us
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the only explanation for the ease of our
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escape easy you call that easy
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they're tracking us not this sister
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although she gets into that her
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character is really developed in that's
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one of my favorite scenes the entire
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there walking down the hallway after
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pulling her out and and and they're
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trying to talk and it's basically
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establishing a relationship going on
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later she's testy and there you know
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spar with each other at this
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I don't know who you are where you came
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now on you do is lie to you k look your
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worshipfulness let's get one thing
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straight
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I take orders from just one person me so
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one day still alive
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somebody get this big walking carpet out
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of my way
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no reward is worth this that is great
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interplay and I think that's that
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dialogue you know clearly Carrie Fisher
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and Harrison Ford had had really good
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chemistry i think the most part that was
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that was like a Sorkin scene because
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they're walking and talking and it's
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just sparkling you know like the lines
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as written or not great but the
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performances Aaron circuit star wars and
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that was that was that seriously they're
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walking down the hallway and they're
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doing the little snappy with the
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dialogue and the writing is not that the
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lines are not that great with the
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delivery sells it
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this is the part of the movie where
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there's a very strange shift and you you
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end up on like the the moon and there's
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like a there's like a briefing don't
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like they're like it and would get our
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university basically i always think of
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it as rebel you because they've got that
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exterior shot of that huge building that
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looks kinda like maybe it's on a college
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campus you know you think about the
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scene and how like it's out there this
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university and they're talking about
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stuff but if you look at some of the
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things that they built this humongous
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set with life-size x-wing and why wings
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in it just for this like establishing
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shot showing here is the rebel fleet
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impressive now it's very they're
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scrapping it ya know I the time sequence
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here always confused me too because
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they're being tracked by the Empire
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presumably the death star takes a little
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time to move its kind of big
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that's true wait for it I don't know how
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it travels between solar systems but
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takes an hour to get in range of the
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well you can't get it can jump in the
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tender but remotely and then it has to
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kind of navigate they used older you
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know speed up jumping to the you can't
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exit hyperspace near gravity well Greg
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is right of course that starts large
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enough to have its own gravity well that
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they have to stop they get the Death
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Star gas station they come back with the
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plans and there and there immediately
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analyzed in the one flaw is found even
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though the Empire should have known then
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that there was a flaw shoddy
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construction government the lowest
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bidder built the best are
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scalpel it would have been really sad to
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say but along the way down that trench
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shot at it and it turned out that they
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fixed it
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yeah they patched it may be that star
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1.1 yeah combination shot this port just
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seems to be concreted over i got that
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bit ya know I am I missing something
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here great star wars fan rationalize
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that seems to be one of those strange
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points in the movie where explainers not
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rationalize errs the broader point is
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valid is that when you build something
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really large you're not thinking of
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threats from small things and mostly
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this is a bad strategy because of you if
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you only have a small fleet it's like
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we're going to pick them off it's the
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idea of the Nets attacking the giant
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where if you can you can do attack it in
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a way where its defenses were not set up
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for that type of attack so that's the
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only chance you have because you have a
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small fleet so that that type of
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scenario it is kind of plausible the
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exact way it's done with the tunnel that
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leads directly to the heart the
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vulnerable heart of the thing well you
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know that's poetic license but well yeah
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they made I mean they tried to make it
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like it's it's there's this tiny little
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flaw right like it's this tiny little
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flaw we need to get there and you need
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to be a super good shot they establish
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upfront it's not like you can just you
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know it's not easy to hit the many
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people make attempts at that you know
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you have to be amazingly skilled you
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might have to use the Force you know
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that's not there is a on the upside
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there's a trench that leads right to
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that sucker
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well this trenches all over the thing
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but that's a good design but and Luke we
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know you've never flown an x-wing before
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and because we're rebels we probably
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don't have that many x-wings use the
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moment whoppers st16 back home did you
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see 16 was in the battle but his dad was
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a really good pilot to their kind of
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short on pilots were the t16 controls
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similar to the x-wing control
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technically yes both are made by income
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it's just like driving a car man is like
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a steering wheel and three pedals you
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know or to peddle techniques and
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technically they are made by the same
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manufacturer of just saying that's right
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artoo is flying up it really is our take
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except he gets shot in the head doesn't
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eat and yeah
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alright is amazingly resilient though
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lots of redundancy in the arterial
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minutes
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I don't understand why the death star
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you know it's kind of basic military
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tactics are you have a giant target and
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then you have it's full of little tiny
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planes that will go out in patrol and
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then when they see the 30 played the 30
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starship coming they will attack them
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with their tie fighters they have
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million thousands of them
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it's like it's like an aircraft carrier
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because they come into low for the laser
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cannon turbolaser cabinets doesn't make
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any sense it doesn't the case was just
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like the cantina was set up for
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merchandising the trenching was set up
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for video games
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yeah I don't think they have that in
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mind thanks something's happened
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I can't listen to that music that the
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music in that scene and actually the
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music and the scene in the Millennium
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Falcon weather in the gun turrets too
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because I've heard those bits in various
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video games so much that it makes me
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sweaty when I hear it like a bit between
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x-wing and I target am a very tense
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oh well i just lost I lost levels in
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like x-wing TIE fighter so many times
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that they play that same music over and
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over and over again David segue between
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different sections yeah uh-huh well I
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say that that one effect that we think
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of it I don't remember not having seen
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this movie but i do remember the the
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biggest emotional moment for me was when
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they swoop that camera into that trench
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because previously this all like
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spaceship movies had looked fake or
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whatever and have been slow speed even
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today when i watch it
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even today when I see that camera move
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it is still like more exciting than
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ninety percent of the CD stuff that I
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say you've just taken that camera
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swooping into that trench they use that
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they reuse that that's used twice
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mmm yeah i was with many people go into
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the trench but i like it because it
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looks so real you know it was expensive
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film sure yeah and the thing is that
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it's the biggest cheat because if you
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want something to look real you know do
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it at night or in space and it do it you
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know like monochrome with harsh lighting
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like you don't have to look like a
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forest it's not it's not an alien
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creature it's the easiest thing you
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could possibly do but it looks so dead
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real and right-wing with into my job
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because it's also it's POV right again
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like your yeah it's we have a background
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so you get the impression of speed plus
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they're shooting at you with JT anybody
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excellent it was it even to this day I
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say that that is like so fast and so
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dramatic and it feels like you know that
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you are there and that's exciting and
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interesting much more so than they would
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like the third person shots nowadays
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where you pulled back and you see like
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the amazing jet fighter crashing into
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the buildings that you see it from a
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distance here you're you're in it you
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know what I mean
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good job yeah and I like in general i
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like the fact that the the trench run
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seen there there is a lot of jeopardy
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and we we do see we're right in the
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cockpit with some of these guys just as
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they get blown up but generally they're
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not afraid to kill people and kids
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moving everyone doesn't come out of it
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like everyone's fine all my friends are
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saved out a pretty much kill everybody
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looks like that almost everybody died
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including Porkins porking Lucas is never
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good at naming people but i feel that
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one is particularly cruel troll
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well that was his nickname they were
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they were a bunch of mean bastards in
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you have all the you have all the
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vestiges of the cutscenes in the
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relationship between Luke and Biggs yeah
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dammit pigs were ru or poo yeah we
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talked to do and then they cut they
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actually cut at some point too i think
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something that's like a little bit like
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there's abrupt end to one of those shots
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where that sounds like he's about to
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talk about something like pigs my best
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friend where are you know and they
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necessarily top but I thought home was
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your best friend
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yeah you guys just met you guys should
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be like bffs also the the pilot the TIE
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fighter pilot who bangs into Vader
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because he's so concerned the truth is a
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true hero of the movie i was going to
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get to that point there's a good article
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on cracked.com from last year saying
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that the true hero of Star Wars and hope
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it does not have a Kiki TIE fighter
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pilot and it's not on sold this house
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all comes in and he's got a clear shot
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they don't know is there does he shoot
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Darth Vader no he doesn't he could've
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picked any one of those typewriters
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should he shoots the guy next to Darth
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Vader who explodes
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then what happens then does issue Darth
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Vader know he does nothing else he talks
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over the intercom nothing going on then
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what happens
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the guy next to Darth Vader flips out
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crashing into darth vader and eyes and
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causing I just getting off that guy is
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so fired
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honda low on funny though possibly the
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worst choice ever in like I'm going to
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come save you I'm coming out
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don't be haha that was all that was all
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what he had planned he saw this chain
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reaction like four steps in advance if I
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got you shoot that guy over there is
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gonna be a lot easier to hit it if Hans
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doing what you suggest there's no
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sequels
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yeah we can't kill that's that's what
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that was totally on his mind getting
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your adventures that a shot at Vader and
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missed and just wing them an invader
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would have flipped out and his little
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tumbling thing the other two guys could
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have bugged out of here because I mean
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he's flying and shooting at the same
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time he might just you know people get
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off wanting my to his head
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anyway i'm playing with a little apple
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to Joystiq basically and as the story of
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this story points out the the TIE
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fighter who flips out has enough time to
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say over the intercom lookout as he's
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stumbling towards may not know he was
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totally unperturbed no one shot him
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didn't graduate anything he just looked
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out at lookout I'm coming with you
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there's no reason to live he's like my
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wingman Bob just got blown up
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yeah buddy just yeah just got you should
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have swerve towards the wall not towards
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vader i love Bader's grunt of surprise
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to and the other hooks winblows water
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hot i will say that that is one of my
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the the end sort of climax there's my
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favorite teams and i still get
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goosebumps at that Han Solo's you know
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yeah he comes out of the Sun that's
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another lesson of the scene where it's
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so easy to do you just do a spotlight
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for the Sun that the ship the ship model
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sort of stops the sunbeams a little bit
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yeah her face it is so easy to do with
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personal checks and they that they knew
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what would work
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you know sometimes I think they knew or
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work and they stuck to the sweet spot
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again i would say i challenge you to
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take computer and make a better looking
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version of that to second scene with
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computer online Falcon and compassion i
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will say that you know in the Death Star
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battle there are clearly from my mind
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you know there's a lot of rough edges
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there's a lot of scenes of people going
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in for attacks on the Death Star
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yeah and that they didn't have the money
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to do it the way they want to look at
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you know terrible there are a lot of
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things that look really good and I think
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that's why the terrible scenes look look
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sad look worse because they're put up
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against a lot of things that look really
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really quite impressive especially for
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the time and so you know later versions
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of special effects were they to exist if
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someone were to redo that section of the
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for example you know you could
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definitely make stuff that looks cool
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but you know at the same time I think it
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there there's definitely a nostalgic
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value an A and an appreciation value to
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a lot of those scenes even out there
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awesome struck by how well they cut
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together the limited footage they have
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because they only have so many foot
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pictures of and the ships are going to
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the trench and chasing them and they're
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going to the trench again and they reuse
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scenes but they entered the intercut
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with scenes from inside the cockpit
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where they move the camera as if like
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they're riding slow-moving bucking
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Broncos for every x-wing fighter is
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bouncing every excellent pilot is slowly
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bouncing up and down so they cut to the
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close-up of that cut the side view of
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them going to the chance to cut to the
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point of view from Vader you know that
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they are hiding the fact that none of
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these shots are as good as that one
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camera move into the trench right but
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i'm amazed at how well it holds up
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without any enhancement or anything like
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that where they just keep it moving fast
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enough and I music and the tension of
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the scene you know you're not you're not
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paying attention right like you're
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you're focusing on the plot and every
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right you're caught up you caught up in
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the moment and they you know they don't
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let them linger on any one bad shot
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enough to for you to get upset but you
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know there are a couple there are a
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couple really really bad shots where
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they like the x-wing swoops in and shoot
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something on the surface of the Death
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Star it's like that looks that's a model
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but the terrible little model City there
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to the surface of decimal things were
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all shot in daylight so a lot of my
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meeting education and it shows but again
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you know i would use that is it a
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drawing attention to you know compared
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to the next two movies which clearly
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they're like well we learned a lot from
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that things never to do again and the
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next two movies look you know by the
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time you hit Jedi you know the effects
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are just a those effects look perfect to
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me still
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yeah and and song this the kids showing
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this to my children I don't I was trying
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to quiz them and in and in a way they
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don't know they're being asked but I
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don't think they'd notice any difference
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and if you're my koala lights like
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pointing down at them
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what did you see well you know that they
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can't distinguish like these effects are
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better than those effects with this
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movie looks better than that what you
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know sometimes they can tell but for
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Star Wars I don't think they noticed a
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real big difference between you know
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Star Wars and return of the jedi in
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terms of the effects quality because
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when you again when your kid all they
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see is the emotion of that scene and
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attention and they have no idea about
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anything else and that's certainly how
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it was for all of us
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I i do remember when I was some when i
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was 14 or 13 and so return of the jedi
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actually noticed how much better the
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effects were because there were so many
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different things moving at once right
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but I'm so so at the end we have the the
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death star blows up spoiler horn like
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you have the great sex scene of the of
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the photon torpedoes going in wait what
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when looking i know is this
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although there is a nice detail married
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you can see where the first shot missed
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and then it doesn't impact on the
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surface Luca takes a deep breath and
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whenever its metals for everybody except
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you probably like rebels who can take
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time to make medals for people
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what is the real without racism he was
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just the copilot if you're going to give
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the melt all the copilot's to then just
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how many metals we have to buy now I
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mean these aren't you gonna get one he
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was the copilot there were three guys
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you survived we give them to the main
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character is how the number of chips on
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the hand
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aliens don't get medals we don't serve
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their kind here get everyone everyone
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who survived gets a medal this isn't
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like kindergarten where everybody gets a
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medal of start they helped this is a
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medal for that cheese from a bow and she
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has you knows it she has to walk behind
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like someone's wife too and they go down
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the aisle he's gonna walk a step behind
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i believe chewy gets a medal in the
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comic also also I believe r2d2 and c3po
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have had necklaces with a big medallion
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of feel they are nicely polished up for
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the final scene that's another thing
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that struck me from from the beginning
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to the end of this movie
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how how good the props for the droids
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look they look like shiny metal robots
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and I don't like it when they don't be
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able to make shiny metal anymore but
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they just look more shiny in metal then
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shiny metal things moves today
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well it's not it's not i think the point
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is they don't look shiny to me because I
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think that's a problem with the cg stuff
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well when they get polished at the end
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but even even in the beginning when
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they're all scuffed up they look like
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yeah well they're scuffed up but like
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they look like there's a dull sort of
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matte finish to like artis dome I think
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that looks it looks like metal but it
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looks like you know well-worn metal Nazi
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threepio's got like a dentist a dent in
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his head like and he's all dusty and
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I think they make them out
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plastic now maybe that's the problem
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they don't want it so easy to mold
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plastic that they didn't have some guy
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hammer out metal you know although i
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will say this time i did i don't know
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why but maybe because the pacing i
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laughed a kind of a previously at the
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part where they they take our two out of
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the x-wing afterwards and he's been shot
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by darth vader and looks terrible he's
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all blown up and everything and there's
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that brief my second of like oh no artoo
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and threepio goes on and then like like
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two seconds later
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everybody's like that will be by mr.
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robot isn't there a like a like a
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hard-bitten mechanic I this that's all
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right we'll get a patched-up without to
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that yeah but feel like they're like all
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right great glad to hear it let's go
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back to celebrate party we have it back
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in your mother for everybody's before
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they go into by we backed him up we
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totally backed him up beforehand so it
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will be fine also nobody seems to care
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about the the the like dozens of people
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the two dozen people who died and I've
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hack hero's of the rebellion
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yeah they're dead metals sprite more
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medals for me
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hey guys example we have extra metals
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here that the copilot's could get a
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except for that Wookiee room that scene
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has the worst line the entire movie for
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me tho you gotta do it well you let you
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get all the credit and take all the
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reward money they knew there was more to
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you than money you see what I'm saying
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here with this text that's an example of
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you know Arizona's great line George you
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can type the ship and you sure as hell
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can't say it but doesn't works written
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line not delivered well in the entire
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movie it's okay i do declare
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well that brings us actually John
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pointing that out i want i want you all
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to tell me something that you think is
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bad and Star Wars tell me somethin bad
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everybody who criticizes it is bad but
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they will never make another movie is
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good i think we covered a lot of stuff
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with the bad lightsabre effects some of
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the author the dialogue looping is bad
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sometimes that words coming out of my
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campers mouth don't match up with the
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word oh yeah the screen with a guy in
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Syracuse's bad the the death sentence on
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five planets or whatever he it's like
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almost nothing he says man
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just up with ya it's like they couldn't
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be bothered it ADR is a lost art or
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something and enough for a dr you know
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they're making all these crazy special
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effects in costumes i think they don't
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have time like something yeah something
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had to fall by the wayside there and if
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it's the loop and dialogue well nobody's
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really paying attention to their mouths
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you're ignoring his alien physiology he
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doesn't speak out of his mouth he speaks
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out of an organ lower down in his chest
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it doesn't necessarily match his lips
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that's racist years no metal for him
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then we don't look at me I know he'd be
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too on it with his chest mouth
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well I think it's funny that obi-wan
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Kenobi goes into hiding and he says i
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will use is assumed identity of Ben
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Kenobi know and we'll have a 5v what the
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Kenobi's are like the smiths of the
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Empire that's right yeah wizard Scott
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that was just a crazy old man okay well
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never finds get that line did he break
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that to that line of God in the other
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direction
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yeah that crazy old man is just a wizard
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now I don't argue it but he's still
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admitting he's a wizard either way it
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doesn't make sex crazy old with his head
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to marry and said very quickly so it's
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cause you don't have to think about is a
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wizard what I decide whether teachers
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always in all caps with periods between
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the letters that crazy old man is
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littered all right so my next my next
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round table question is I give me a
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favorite line from Star Wars your
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favorite line
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I gotta go with I find your lack of
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faith disturbing because it is one of
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the badass easiest of all badass lines
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delivered so calmly while talking
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someone without actually touching them
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without seemingly breaking a sweat sweat
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after the guys tried to chew you out you
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know it's like if the ultimate meeting
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scene like in your meetings at work and
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some guy knowing you and maybe your boss
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is getting on your case or whatever
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don't you wish you could force choke
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someone and calmly say I find your lack
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of faith in my plan to stick to hold
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their cup of starbucks cup of coffee
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that I gotta go with the way go with the
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line that i wrote on the back of the
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exam for my Christianity class in
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college which was hokey religions and
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ancient weapons are no match for a good
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blaster who said you found my professor
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professor didn't like that
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large on actually stole my answer so I i
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will agree with job plus 1 lots of words
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Greg yeah there's just there's too many
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but i'll go with John Wow
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come on guys this is your life and your
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lack of pants disturbing basically
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that's like it and if i had to go for a
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segment I would go for that walking down
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the hallway seen so many good lines that
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the Han Solo uh you know the baby ad lib
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dialogue when when she gets loose
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what I was gonna kill though I was like
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I'm gonna go with the wilhelm scream oh
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alright haha I you know everything
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really that you need to know in life I
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think you can learn from Star Wars for
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example I think you just got a book
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contract first find the controls that
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extend the bridge then shoot the control
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panel that advice will serve you and let
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me tell you come in handy more times and
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and the meta advice have a woman tell
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you what to do at all times
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there is a serious like workman's comp
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problem on the Death Star is being out
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with the classical chasms and the
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bridges but yeah they're carrying this
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number has no railings and all I mean I
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realize show would have our feet there's
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no place osha they were probably you
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know over budget and they gotta build
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the whole big ball when I ever met
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planet killing laser but there's no
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railings anywhere so you just you know
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you stepped through a door that's like
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whoa get to the end of the world they
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lose more stormtroopers that way but you
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know the Emperor had the Senate
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dissolved it stands to reason he's going
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to dissolve all related bureaucracies
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like the space IRS star wars it's not
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it's not it's not silly safety
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regulations what's really easy if you
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need to get rid of somebody's
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incompetent you just gotta be like hey
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joe is it over there and over your right
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it's just a painting on glass it's
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actually two feet it seems like a very
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odd safe workplace that's taking a
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picture of of all the mattresses that
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are under the yeah the antenna hanging
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off of the bottom of Cloud City yes
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yeah it it takes away some of the
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mystique well you know like they have
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the spaceports we're like the Millennium
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Falcon parks just open to space with
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magnetic shielding to keep for the
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vacuum of space and killing everybody so
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presumably you just walk to the edge
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there and check your body through the
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magnetic you know she'll be waiting
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plus there's like a 15 amp fuse that's
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holding the whole thing together or
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somebody plugs in their air conditioner
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on the Death Star hairdryers whatsoever
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we just vented a airlock to space along
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had just actually what happens is
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favored is brewing a new pot of coffee
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just goes off
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yeah I find your lack of voltage
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disturbing against regulation that's
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right this is really not up to code
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dan I know you mentioned this we should
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talk a little bit at least about about
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John Williams score for this i have I
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totally have a man-crush on John
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Williams true he's awesome isn't magic
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think you have still got tangles anytime
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I hear the star wars-themed startup I
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there's something something that has
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been hardwired into my brain I have a
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physiological reaction to it you should
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consult a neurologist
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I see them conduct the boston pops up
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with the star wars music anytime and
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it's just a fantastic experience but i
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mean i think this is one of the the
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earlier of his really sort of bombastic
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scores which I think then became sort of
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a a trademark perhaps overused later on
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but it's just is such a great sword and
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John talked a little bit before about
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filling out you know the soundscape and
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if without the music this this movie
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would not be the movie that it is i mean
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it just it would I think it would fall
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flat in a lot of places but there's
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something in the complexity of it the
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the interweaving all the motifs and the
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different themes for the different
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characters that really you know enhances
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the entire experience and and dare I say
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there are there are movies there are
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related movies that without dialogue
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could still be saved by the music
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yeah like the the music in this thing is
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it does acting for the
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actors who either can't or won't do it
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in particular seems and the one that
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comes to mind the clip that i picked for
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possibly bookending the show with is
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that the dual sunsets in Luke has no
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lines that scene in terms of facial
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acting he's not asked to do too much and
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in fact lead into that scene he does
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this child just kick the dirt
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frustration thing which doesn't look
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that great but the music is the actor in
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that scene like that that is like the
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heart of the movie of Luke you know
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wants to get off the planet
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he doesn't have any lines you didn't say
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anything the music does all the talking
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in that scene and that's that's the one
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musical cues home we not the bombastic
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opening that that always gets me is that
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the the binary son said you know strings
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thing with the crescendo that is just
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that's the best musical moment of this
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whole movie that's a group that's a
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great piece I mean that's my point in
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the entire series for me it just
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visually with the music that's the one
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that gets me so this is something
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special
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[Music]
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[Music]
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and no dialogue no acting it's all the
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music i actually went to tosha's station
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to get power converters yeah it makes us
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free makes us forget that whiny boy that
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yeah absolutely when I wouldn't listen
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the score you know that last bit too i
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think right at the death star you know
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right when all this sort of the tension
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is is all ramped up there's just a great
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moment there i think in the music as
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well that like I can listen to that
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music and it's hard for me to listen to
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music and do something else at the same
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time because immediately I'm transported
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to the Death Star trench and like oh my
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god this is it does i got to make this
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shot you know and i think it's just it
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raises the tension so much it's so it's
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so evocative that I think it just it
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just transports me how did Lucas and get
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these people and one knows bribery
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blackmail
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I think you you know he has the American
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Graffiti you
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Thank You American Graffiti that's the
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that's his whole résumé other than his
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college movies but he gets people who
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are just absolutely brilliant at what
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they do with he knew lots of people here
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including Francis Ford Coppola and you
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know hehe so he had connection American
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Graffiti made a lot of money and i'm
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american graffiti was a huge hit on a
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lot of these people were not you know
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the people there John Williams while a
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great composer was not right on Williams
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haven't you know to get John Williams
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before he's John Williams is it is a
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bigger achievement than getting him
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after his John Williams yeah true i I've
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like like jason said United he had the
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connections he was in with that
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community and I think they're just you
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know maybe someone it's just luck
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they're like you got Mark Hamill right
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but then also got everything forward so
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you don't know which one is going to
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turn out to be the Harrison Ford and
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which one is going to be the mark hamill
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although I shouldn't say bad things
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about Mark Hamill because i have good
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things to say about him because his
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Joker in Batman the series right there
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you go that I was gonna say anybody who
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says Mark Hamill is not a good actor
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that's just proof that you know you can
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go he can still do some some he's got
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some chops they just happen to be in a
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different direction so the I think it's
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time for us to break the glass and
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discuss the fact that these movies were
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then sort of jute we do her as this for
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our three
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well I'm hoping
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will be the last topic of this special
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two-part uncomfortable i hope it's two
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parts because i was those are great way
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to wreck on
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yes special editions
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I'm just gonna throw it out there
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because we pretend they don't exist but
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I think we have to talk about them they
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made special editions where they cleaned
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up a lot of stuff so a lot of it looks
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better but they also made changes and
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then they did some things that don't
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that are very different and don't
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necessarily look better and i know there
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are some strong feelings about this
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well I want to give some good feelings
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about the special editions this is
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saying that i have good feelings with
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the pickles here's my good feelings
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about the special launch their accuses
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bad 100 now let's this is 0 you'll feel
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better after it so star wars we've all
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seen it and lived in whatever and
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hitting on away and we knew they were
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doing these prequel things the prospect
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of which was unbelievably exciting to
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all of us right because we didn't know
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I'm whoa whoa they did they did what
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yeah so but they have these ads in the
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movie theater for the special editions
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and what they would show is a look at
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one of the one i remember is they show a
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little television screen with our or
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playing on it saying this is how you
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remember Star Wars people because you
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probably didn't see in the theater
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because you were just born around that
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time and i have liked any mono audio
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coming out of it and then they have a CG
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x-wing come flying out of the screen
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shoot a TIE fighter and fly through the
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resulting explosion with all the
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surround sound on and it was like that
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was like you know that little thing to
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show the TV screens like that's not how
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I remember star wars and then exploded
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into that it's like yes that's how I
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remember star wars and they showed us
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the CG and next the typewriters
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everything and it was an exciting
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feeling of like I'm going to get to see
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Star Wars again in the theater
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little did we know what they would do to
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the movie all we knew is that you know
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that explains look really good
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yeah those were really effective ads but
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that's an artifact of the cultural
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ubiquity of Star Wars i mean i remember
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star wars in the theaters that's my
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memory stores not on the TV screen but I
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mean there's a generation of people like
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me who did wrong as the most of it will
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not turn off i'm saying it was exciting
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we were excited to see these special we
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were excited to see if they just
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re-released in theaters period we've
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been great but we're excited to see this
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special new edition of Star Wars and
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they didn't show you all the horrible
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things that they
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due to the movies individuals at that
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point you thought like hey cool we see
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you know it's like Star Wars but better
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and like so let's take let's check them
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off one of the horrible things that
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we're done reduces first I have says the
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worst 320 shoot cars that's the worst
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terrible and it's worse because so
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needless to say then reconnected to
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having it be sort of like get hit on
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kind of twitches and and they shoot
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someone that was in the original special
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edition looks terrible there it's bad
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technically it's bad plot-wise yeah okay
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so there's there's a doubles there's
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their little creatures underfoot
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everywhere there's little flourishes
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they're just extraneous like throughout
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the entire movie establishing shot of
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Mos Eisley when they fly in and they
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have a big dinosaur by and I guy punches
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a robot out of the air and all sorts
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yeah there is a shot
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there's one shot that I really love from
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the special edition which you know it
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doesn't bother me that it's not in the
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the original movie like I'm fine without
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it but like as a shot i love the shot of
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the phone can actually taking off from
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authorized Lee there's like an overhead
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shot that looks better than the original
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shot yes it's just a great-looking shot
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and it's kinda again i said i just love
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the Millennium Falcon so much like it
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just it's so cool to see it like in
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it's a little early 90 CGS a lot of
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these things I mean it's not yeah a lot
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of it looks dated now which is they
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don't look as good on Mike
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no they don't I didn't mind the Haunted
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job scene just because it had a Harrison
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Ford you know it had been shot original
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I don't think it's necessary and I think
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job looks pretty bad but it was the clip
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of Harrison Ford from the original
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filming that we hadn't seen before but
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it looks like a deleted scene you know
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well it looks like something we
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shouldn't be seen because this
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performance is not that great and the
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horrible effects and walking over and it
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lately duplicated in the in the grito
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seem it's like it's some the Lucan big
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scene though that they didn't know
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eventually found its way to youtube from
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on Tatooine
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yeah that didn't add anything it like
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that's the stuff they cut it for a
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reason you know right right of course
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but it's still need to see it you've
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seen every year you know square
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centimeter of this movie again and again
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because it doesn't need to be in the
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movie though
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and you're right i just ate it's an
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extra scene collectors thing I have a
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copy of you like the role playing game 4
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star wars and they had like photo in
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certain parts of it and there's a photo
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in there of a scene that I couldn't
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remember from the movie which is from
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Jedi it's like a sandstorm we're getting
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back on the money fuckin and like which
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i think is a cutscene from Jedi and I
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was just like well where is this from
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like how can i find this where is it
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like that and to see a movie that like
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like greg did like you know inside and
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out like you know every scene every line
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every little detail and all of a sudden
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someone tells you about the way there's
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this other hole like you know a
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10-minute scene and you'll be like what
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it's like looking at looking at the
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storyboards or the the production art
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you know it's like oh wow you know I
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collected all that the cards bedsheets
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the double album that folded open this
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the visual book that was just a
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collection of stills from the movie I i
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devoured this stuff and then the special
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editions came along and and just kind of
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shit all over it
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I mean you know and I was an age where
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like I was 17 or something and so you
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know watching that was it was really
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exciting at the time and I think it took
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a while before we started to think like
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one you know maybe this is her tampered
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with something I think you know it sort
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of felt wrong right away the ring they
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put around the death star explosion of
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some stuff that's all wrong i don't like
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all wrong way although we did we did
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take delight in coming out of the movie
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theater from watching star wars and
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saying loudly to everybody I can't
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believe the death star actually blew up
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the moon this time we were assholes i
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did like the the the idea of the the
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things they couldn't do in the dogfight
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that they try to do better
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that was a noble effort I so I think the
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cg dated too badly for really but at
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least at least that was like you can
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imagine that they would have filmed that
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scene like that whereas for example the
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establishing shot mostly they never
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would have found that like that with
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those camera moves and always kept it
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was generally never thought I was just
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showing off right and that that feels
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that feels cheap yet and it's not it
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doesn't fit in with the movie they would
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have shot those angles they wouldn't
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shop those those actions they would have
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done those camera moves just from a
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different movie it's it doesn't belong
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there at all yeah so the I think see I
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don't even have the originals in any
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form now i think the the DVD
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transference of the laser disc is what i
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have in those
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you know i think i have those and I may
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have those somewhere that's what I used
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to have now they did actually release a
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DVD version right that that has the
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original untampered versions on it
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yeah they're not like its standard-def
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horrible quality
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well it's exactly what my understanding
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is it's exactly what's on the laser
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yeah but his worst quality than
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laserdisc quality like they heavily
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heavily compressed inch and shoved it on
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my just watched it on a laserdisc and i
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will say the quality is not that great
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know about the quality of my DVD as i
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have the DVD transfers of that when i
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watch that as compared to the hidden
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original new hope that's on one of my
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official star wars dvds that the
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transfers look better I don't they clean
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them up or something that it's they that
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is surprising to me I mean I know
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they've already went on HDTV and they're
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all standard yeah you know I have to
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zoom in on mine just take it even fill
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up the screen because it's widescreen
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it's a widescreen format laserdisc but
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laser discs were only 43 so you get bars
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all the way around
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what is best in your mind if I can't
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really watch it as easily in my no oh
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yes you can write i believe when they
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release the blu-rays they're going to
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release a version of the movie but it's
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not going to be cleaned up in any way of
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the original I don't think that's the
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case i'll be very surprised i mean they
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really so there's also technically
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there's another edition right like there
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because there's the specialist and I
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have like a set i have two sets of VHS
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tapes i have the original like you know
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early nineties version i guess and then
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these but i do have a special edition
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them because yet I for example they have
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hayden christensen in there there's an
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ultimate edition i guess is what I'm
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Hayden so maidens con Hayden Planetarium
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i don't know i keep forgetting that
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version and that's the version that I've
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got your brain protecting you from it's
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a leave the fact i actually don't even
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own star wars on DVD which feels weird
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wow I mean I bought the laser discs with
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the extent of transferring them to my
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computer and making dvds out of them and
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then was stymied on several occasions
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where i try to actually do that's just
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go download them they're easier to find
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for now yes but I own the
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I got a you have no idea so I acquired a
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laserdisc player that my best friend's
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dad just happened to be throwing away
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after i already had the laser discs and
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was like how the hell am I ever coming
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so i have this latest player which is
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dedicated to playing Star Wars it sits
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on a shelf unless it's fucking stuck for
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Wow yes that's commitment that is
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commitment i should be committed
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yes that is for sure well what else any
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anything that we haven't already covered
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for for this in our special epic
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two-part podcast almost certainly but
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we'll have to just come back into a star
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trek is still better
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oh no how you just wait you just SAT
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through two hours just so you can pop
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that out didn't you
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victory is mine haha
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can you imagine having a two-hour
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conversation about any of the Star Trek
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movies seriously stuck no its got milk
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is bad huh
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he's almost as bad as Stockman healthy
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guy is pretty much worse
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that's the less interesting one who
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wears a shirt with no patterns on the
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stock McNulty I mean don't get me wrong
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I like Star Wars it's very nice but uh
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huh and scrapping all these bad but it
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never really get it so I'm excited to
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rewatch Star Wars movies right and then
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when i rewatch them there's always parts
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where i am incredibly bored and I think
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this is much better in my mind then was
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supposed to star trek one you know
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well start required which is riveting
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still going on it let's not lower
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celebrating his level
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yes oh I'm not saying it's bad i'm just
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saying that it is not i don't have a
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special laser disc player to watch for
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example i admit that i am a little bit
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on the obsessive side just a time tab so
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it's fun and it's fine but it's just
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that it never really get captured my
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imagination I'm a Star Trek fan I have
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imagination I'm a Star Trek fan I have
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breitling like most of you I've written
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to star trek spec script
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uh-huh Star Wars is a seminal cultural
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event know and i agree with you and I
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think that it changed the world
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I think that the star wars as a cultural
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phenomenon is more interesting than the
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movies themselves the movies are you
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trying to include the second movie in
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that and even our own exists because of
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the movies i know but it's it's taken
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out a greater importance than the movies
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itself there's a lot of people who are
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wrong and they say empires a better
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movie than Star Wars now there and know
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how to run because because when you had
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going into Empire you are coming from
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Star Wars going into Star Wars you're
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coming from zero your grading on degree
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of difficulty will discuss in the next
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episode if you could be on the go from a
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world without star wars is not this is
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not diving there's no degree of
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difficulty because into a world with
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Star Wars it changes everything
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yes if you're doing the back half gainer
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its core differently than if you just
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doing straight you know yeah but on a
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diving term yeah could you try i wanted
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to back out of the ordinary game woman
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yes but we understand the concept degree
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of difficulty and this is the argument
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being made
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yes I design because it matters if you
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do with this is that it's not just a
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movie that's not how that's not how
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things are graded and how life works
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oh it is how life works it's the impact
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thankies don't get half a World Series
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win because they had babers get the
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whole win
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not in my world they don't want it is
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easier for you had babe ruth so we're
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going into a third hour then no no it
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will save that save that for the Empire
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podcast we can discuss its place in the
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pantheon with the McLaughlin group of
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Star Wars long goes on forever
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all right or wrong alright well I feel
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as if we've barely scratched the surface
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but we we've we've spent a lot of time
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scratching that certain so what we're
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gonna we're gonna have table it here the
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surface was itchy
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thus ends our epic Star Wars podcast
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until we do a revisiting we will we will
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we will talk the Empire strike strikes
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back in the next little while so stay
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tuned for that
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and until next time I want to thank my
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John siracusa thank you for being here
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force be with you always
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how did Dan Morgan thank you mm-hmm
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Scott fixed LT thank you but I knew he
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was gonna do our 2 i've got nothing to
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do an English accent Greg 3030 quickly a
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thank you Jason when I got nothing
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that's good you could you could have
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just said see drinking coffee
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yeah that's this I find your lack of
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cream disturbing you could have gone
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with a female choice
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the more you tighten your grandfather
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started yet sleep through your things
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through your fingers there is it there's
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at least three women in the Star Wars
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trilogy ok
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and on that note thanks everybody for
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listening to this edition of the
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uncomfortable we'll see you next time
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[Music]
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but now i'm perfectly willing to believe
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that everything on the west coast looks
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like Star Wars yes it does i go i drive
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to work every day in a in a ja sam
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speeder and your house is this little
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this little igloo that is miraculously
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large inside like the tarts it's TARDIS
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yeah that's exactly what it is and i
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have a protocol droid who serves BTW and
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smile but it speaks bocce and the binary
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language of moisture vaporators generous
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very similar to very similar to the
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little sisters
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yeah load literacy rate loaders load
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lifters do they left a l'eau de l'eau to
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lift you get out guys that will be all
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this will be a edit this part
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note to self and put it back in and
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extend this scene
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yeah it'll be much better sound effects
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