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00:00:00   the incomparable part number 42 lately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/0">TS</a>]

00:00:15   welcome back to the incomparable podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/15">TS</a>]

00:00:18   I'm going fleischmann hosting this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/18">TS</a>]

00:00:20   in for Jason Snell who is also here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/20">TS</a>]

00:00:23   hello we're talking this week this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/23">TS</a>]

00:00:25   episode 42 and for the one person in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/25">TS</a>]

00:00:29   million who could possibly be listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/29">TS</a>]

00:00:31   to this podcast we hope to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/31">TS</a>]

00:00:32   million listeners someday who does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/32">TS</a>]

00:00:35   know what 42 is it's all about douglas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/35">TS</a>]

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00:00:48   celebrate his life and career and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/48">TS</a>]

00:00:51   that honor and because it's episode 42 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/51">TS</a>]

00:00:53   we have a cast of characters drawn from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/53">TS</a>]

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00:01:00   much of the spectrum i guess but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/60">TS</a>]

00:01:01   across something I welcome Jason smell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/61">TS</a>]

00:01:04   than usual host of the incomparable i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/64">TS</a>]

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00:01:11   an undisclosed location talking on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/71">TS</a>]

00:01:13   iPad hello Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/73">TS</a>]

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00:01:16   adams probably would have enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/76">TS</a>]

00:01:17   knowing that I sitting in a hotel on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/77">TS</a>]

00:01:20   wireless device that sitting in my lap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/80">TS</a>]

00:01:21   playing his his interactive fiction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/81">TS</a>]

00:01:26   and podcasting while on the loo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/86">TS</a>]

00:01:28   he's multitasking and Greg now stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/88">TS</a>]

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00:02:47   bunch of X TV people got pulled in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/167">TS</a>]

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00:02:59   who was one of the main TV techies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/179">TS</a>]

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00:03:04   which Douglas was creative director is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/184">TS</a>]

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00:03:13   pictures and flicker of the set design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/193">TS</a>]

00:03:15   that he did for that with the the amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/195">TS</a>]

00:03:17   of stuff he kept in his basement and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/197">TS</a>]

00:03:19   people laughed at him until the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/199">TS</a>]

00:03:21   premiered and it was all unleashed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/201">TS</a>]

00:03:23   television exactly and this in season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/203">TS</a>]

00:03:26   one there's god we got this there's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/206">TS</a>]

00:03:28   my father-in-law's commodore pet has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/208">TS</a>]

00:03:30   priced quite a place on the season one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/210">TS</a>]

00:03:32   set it to 0 I i love that i had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/212">TS</a>]

00:03:35   commodore pet when I was a kid but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/215">TS</a>]

00:03:36   that's the really old model it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/216">TS</a>]

00:03:38   like metal keep tiny metal keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/218">TS</a>]

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00:03:42   IT crowd episode made maybe you can so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/222">TS</a>]

00:03:45   that Commodore 64 week well I've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/225">TS</a>]

00:03:48   transition to pet the Pet Sounds one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/228">TS</a>]

00:03:50   his first computers used was a Commodore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/230">TS</a>]

00:03:51   bet apparently according to his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/231">TS</a>]

00:03:53   biography I it is now his biography use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/233">TS</a>]

00:03:56   the Macintosh later but so Douglas Adams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/236">TS</a>]

00:03:58   douglas adams is an unwieldy person to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/238">TS</a>]

00:04:01   talk about not just because he was over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/241">TS</a>]

00:04:03   six feet tall and spindly not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/243">TS</a>]

00:04:05   because he was interested in everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/245">TS</a>]

00:04:06   but the man my god every time I look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/246">TS</a>]

00:04:09   douglas adams I think I know what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/249">TS</a>]

00:04:11   actually did with his life he died at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13   young age cited 49 and i always think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/253">TS</a>]

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00:04:17   toddler was no cup singing music in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/257">TS</a>]

00:04:19   nineteen fifties and he had this line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/259">TS</a>]

00:04:21   when he was about 35 he said it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/261">TS</a>]

00:04:23   sobering thought that when Mozart was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/263">TS</a>]

00:04:25   age he had been dead for two years and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/265">TS</a>]

00:04:28   think that about douglas adams now he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/268">TS</a>]

00:04:29   got six years only when he died but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/269">TS</a>]

00:04:31   think if i could do a fraction with and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/271">TS</a>]

00:04:33   he wrote for doctor who he was worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/273">TS</a>]

00:04:36   with graham Khaleesi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/276">TS</a>]

00:04:37   was appeared Monty Python he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/277">TS</a>]

00:04:39   collaborated with musicians he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/279">TS</a>]

00:04:41   stephen Fry's very good friends early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/281">TS</a>]

00:04:43   macintosh user he did a documentary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/283">TS</a>]

00:04:45   about hypertext in 1990 you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/285">TS</a>]

00:04:48   that's in addition to what he's of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/288">TS</a>]

00:04:50   course best known for The Hitchhiker's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/290">TS</a>]

00:04:51   Guide to the galaxy squad rolla gee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/291">TS</a>]

00:04:53   Quinn ecology which is actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/293">TS</a>]

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00:04:57   start with you know what the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/297">TS</a>]

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00:05:02   influenced our lives we remember him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/302">TS</a>]

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00:05:10   why don't you start to know you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/310">TS</a>]

00:05:11   that an email that Douglas is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/311">TS</a>]

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00:05:15   your life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/315">TS</a>]

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00:05:18   because an influence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/318">TS</a>]

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00:05:23   hitchhiker's guide because i was into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/323">TS</a>]

00:05:24   interactive fiction and I was big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/324">TS</a>]

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00:05:29   had never heard of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/329">TS</a>]

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00:06:36   described as humor i suppose and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/396">TS</a>]

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00:07:08   is to know that that Douglas Adams also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/428">TS</a>]

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00:07:29   about right that saying that writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/449">TS</a>]

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00:07:33   until your forehead that is excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/453">TS</a>]

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00:07:49   sick from school and my mom was tired of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/469">TS</a>]

00:07:51   me just moaning quietly to myself and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/471">TS</a>]

00:07:53   she went to the library and she just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/473">TS</a>]

00:07:55   pick something and she picked us she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/475">TS</a>]

00:07:57   picked something off the shelf at random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59   and it turned out it was the third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/479">TS</a>]

00:08:01   hitchhiker book and she brought home to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/481">TS</a>]

00:08:02   me and she dropped in my lap and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/482">TS</a>]

00:08:03   said shut your pie hole and read and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/483">TS</a>]

00:08:06   read and it made no sense at all because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/486">TS</a>]

00:08:09   it starts off with Arthur on prehistoric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/489">TS</a>]

00:08:11   earth and I I picked the story of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/491">TS</a>]

00:08:15   literally two-thirds of the way through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/495">TS</a>]

00:08:16   and I was absolutely blown away it I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/496">TS</a>]

00:08:19   read it all that day and then I read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/499">TS</a>]

00:08:21   whole book and then i read it again the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/501">TS</a>]

00:08:23   next day and there are a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/503">TS</a>]

00:08:25   points where my life feels like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/505">TS</a>]

00:08:27   pivots when I was young and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/507">TS</a>]

00:08:31   afternoon reading that book totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/511">TS</a>]

00:08:34   changed the way I approached writing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/514">TS</a>]

00:08:36   comedy and really what was possible when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/516">TS</a>]

00:08:42   you start putting words together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/522">TS</a>]

00:08:43   Steve talked about the sentence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/523">TS</a>]

00:08:44   structure what struck me was his gift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/524">TS</a>]

00:08:46   for metaphor and simile and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/526">TS</a>]

00:08:49   something that's so pedestrian is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/529">TS</a>]

00:08:52   comparing one thing to another thing can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/532">TS</a>]

00:08:54   be made brand-new if you do it the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56   way i mean the the classic example from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/536">TS</a>]

00:08:59   the beginning of the first book is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/539">TS</a>]

00:09:01   Vogon ship hovers in the air much the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/541">TS</a>]

00:09:02   way a brick does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/542">TS</a>]

00:09:04   which it its it's perfect in so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/544">TS</a>]

00:09:08   ways and it's hilarious and I ape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/548">TS</a>]

00:09:12   douglas adams for roughly the next 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/552">TS</a>]

00:09:14   years trying to produce something a 10th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/554">TS</a>]

00:09:16   is good and I don't think I've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/556">TS</a>]

00:09:19   really succeeded but my favorite parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/559">TS</a>]

00:09:22   of writing are coming up with just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/562">TS</a>]

00:09:25   right metaphor to describe something in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/565">TS</a>]

00:09:27   a way that people wouldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/567">TS</a>]

00:09:29   anticipated so it's funny at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/569">TS</a>]

00:09:30   time I had that moment recently when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/570">TS</a>]

00:09:33   was reading something for the Economist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/573">TS</a>]

00:09:35   letterpress and my editor changed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/575">TS</a>]

00:09:37   my description of letterpress paper you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/577">TS</a>]

00:09:39   know hitting including paper like not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/579">TS</a>]

00:09:43   like a a French kiss but like a nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/583">TS</a>]

00:09:46   supposed to be a light touch like a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/586">TS</a>]

00:09:48   brush on the side of the cheeky change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/588">TS</a>]

00:09:50   french-kiss to snog and I was so very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/590">TS</a>]

00:09:52   very happy for that word choice that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/592">TS</a>]

00:09:56   think the analogy work much better yards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/596">TS</a>]

00:09:59   now you knew douglas adams you work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/599">TS</a>]

00:10:00   him a bit and and so your memories your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/600">TS</a>]

00:10:02   memories of those atoms are actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/602">TS</a>]

00:10:05   memories of douglas adams yes yes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/605">TS</a>]

00:10:07   fact douglas adams my father sorry i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/607">TS</a>]

00:10:11   just very special incomparables yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/611">TS</a>]

00:10:14   was it was always wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/614">TS</a>]

00:10:16   well it was my mother who introduced me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/616">TS</a>]

00:10:18   to hitch hikers she was something about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/618">TS</a>]

00:10:22   sci-fi fan and she was listening to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/622">TS</a>]

00:10:24   radio a story that starts that way is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/624">TS</a>]

00:10:25   very differently so it's where radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/625">TS</a>]

00:10:33   three such you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/633">TS</a>]

00:10:34   yes home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/634">TS</a>]

00:10:39   yeah and and to be on well it she what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/639">TS</a>]

00:10:42   she did she bought the she takes on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/642">TS</a>]

00:10:46   radio series but my first instruction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/646">TS</a>]

00:10:48   was one of the lesser-known versions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/648">TS</a>]

00:10:50   the cannon which is the LPS oh yes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/650">TS</a>]

00:10:56   there were recorded vinyl LPs which are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/656">TS</a>]

00:11:00   not the radio series they are a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/660">TS</a>]

00:11:02   new recording but with the same i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/662">TS</a>]

00:11:05   an almost identical cast and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/665">TS</a>]

00:11:08   recorded shortly after the radio they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/668">TS</a>]

00:11:09   were recorded the head unfit herbs I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/669">TS</a>]

00:11:12   mean they went because douglas adams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/672">TS</a>]

00:11:13   they went to exactly the full-length [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/673">TS</a>]

00:11:15   that was possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/675">TS</a>]

00:11:16   I'll be recording technology if i recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/676">TS</a>]

00:11:18   practically down to the second yes yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/678">TS</a>]

00:11:20   exactly exactly and they went so long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/680">TS</a>]

00:11:22   that some of them the the needle keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/682">TS</a>]

00:11:25   coming off games references for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/685">TS</a>]

00:11:26   thing finished but the whole the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/686">TS</a>]

00:11:29   continual joke about actually was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/689">TS</a>]

00:11:31   officers upper arm are ya was what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/691">TS</a>]

00:11:33   the Bruce was one of the bruises on yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/693">TS</a>]

00:11:35   yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/695">TS</a>]

00:11:37   right exactly um so uh and then I listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/697">TS</a>]

00:11:41   listen to that there was a hitchhiker's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/701">TS</a>]

00:11:43   double LP and there was a restaurant the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/703">TS</a>]

00:11:44   interviews first single LP and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/704">TS</a>]

00:11:47   the single player is the first place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/707">TS</a>]

00:11:49   where the handles get replaced by hop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/709">TS</a>]

00:11:51   like crazy otto and disaster area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/711">TS</a>]

00:11:53   I think but um sorry now Madison now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/713">TS</a>]

00:11:57   must be really arguing i'm gonna argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/717">TS</a>]

00:12:00   is yes but I also listen to some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/720">TS</a>]

00:12:04   radio series which scared the shit out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/724">TS</a>]

00:12:06   of me because the audio production is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/726">TS</a>]

00:12:08   good they serve some bit especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/728">TS</a>]

00:12:09   later on in the second series like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/729">TS</a>]

00:12:13   Marvin is stuck down this massive shaft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15   that has been formed by him plummeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/735">TS</a>]

00:12:17   into the surface of the planet which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/737">TS</a>]

00:12:19   have a planet the bird planet and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/739">TS</a>]

00:12:22   afford and say for coming along this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/742">TS</a>]

00:12:25   starliner that's been waiting for moist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/745">TS</a>]

00:12:28   lemon soap paper napkins are several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/748">TS</a>]

00:12:30   millennia and the audio is so terrifying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/750">TS</a>]

00:12:34   you know and so used to stand i was only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/754">TS</a>]

00:12:37   like seven or eight years old my stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/757">TS</a>]

00:12:38   at the edge of the room just so i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/758">TS</a>]

00:12:39   not run out of the bottle scary and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/759">TS</a>]

00:12:42   you read the books and I yeah I loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/762">TS</a>]

00:12:46   most TV series i loved that I think my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/766">TS</a>]

00:12:50   favorite novelist up gently overall but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/770">TS</a>]

00:12:54   also have a great fondness for a last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/774">TS</a>]

00:12:57   chance to see and then in a 97 I was 96 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/777">TS</a>]

00:13:05   96 when i graduated from computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/785">TS</a>]

00:13:07   science university college london and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/787">TS</a>]

00:13:10   saw on Sunday morning program dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/790">TS</a>]

00:13:12   are being interviewed by somebody and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/792">TS</a>]

00:13:14   was mentioned his new his new company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/794">TS</a>]

00:13:15   the digital village that was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/795">TS</a>]

00:13:17   internet stuff and went and wandering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/797">TS</a>]

00:13:20   around college one day shortly after I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/800">TS</a>]

00:13:22   graduated I bumped into somebody called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/802">TS</a>]

00:13:25   andreas who was who are nice like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/805">TS</a>]

00:13:28   thinking going on at all it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/808">TS</a>]

00:13:29   interesting i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/809">TS</a>]

00:13:30   that the company traditional village and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/810">TS</a>]

00:13:32   he said oh yeah i'm setting up network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/812">TS</a>]

00:13:33   and so he introduced me to the CTO rich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/813">TS</a>]

00:13:37   terrace and then with the traditionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/817">TS</a>]

00:13:40   glacial speed we had hiring people for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42   me a six months later I was I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/822">TS</a>]

00:13:44   disabilities first dedicated web tacky I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/824">TS</a>]

00:13:47   was the backend makes your code number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/827">TS</a>]

00:13:51   on and i worked on the cipher starship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/831">TS</a>]

00:13:55   titanic after the very first thing i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/835">TS</a>]

00:13:57   was a mini site which is still up and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/837">TS</a>]

00:14:01   can tell during World time this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/841">TS</a>]

00:14:02   conversation is going to be continued [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/842">TS</a>]

00:14:04   referencing things that we need to then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/844">TS</a>]

00:14:05   publishes URL and something shown a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/845">TS</a>]

00:14:07   little risk there's those are ovulation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/847">TS</a>]

00:14:08   all get closer as many URLs as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/848">TS</a>]

00:14:11   to be the show notes later around our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/851">TS</a>]

00:14:12   website excellent arm so let's go off in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/852">TS</a>]

00:14:15   front of Jason I'm trying to live up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/855">TS</a>]

00:14:19   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/859">TS</a>]

00:14:19   that's right um so yeah we did a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/859">TS</a>]

00:14:24   cuz the radio forward was expecting bits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26   of last chance to say and we did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/866">TS</a>]

00:14:29   little mini site for with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/869">TS</a>]

00:14:32   that was the first thing I just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/872">TS</a>]

00:14:33   HTML friends in 97 yeah and we we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/873">TS</a>]

00:14:36   realized our hang on a minute the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/876">TS</a>]

00:14:37   chance to see a multimedia cd-rom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/877">TS</a>]

00:14:40   because that was one of the first one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/880">TS</a>]

00:14:43   that was one of the early you know big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/883">TS</a>]

00:14:45   early nineties cd-rom productions where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/885">TS</a>]

00:14:48   they just let's just throw everything on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/888">TS</a>]

00:14:49   the cd-rom loaded graphics loads of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/889">TS</a>]

00:14:51   everything and his company called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/891">TS</a>]

00:14:53   Voyager did it and then we said okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/893">TS</a>]

00:14:56   who's got one does didn't nobody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/896">TS</a>]

00:14:59   had we found one mail order company in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/899">TS</a>]

00:15:02   virginia that had it and we got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/902">TS</a>]

00:15:05   shipped over so that the graphics off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/905">TS</a>]

00:15:07   except it turns out that the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/907">TS</a>]

00:15:09   that made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/909">TS</a>]

00:15:09   I now found many years later one per [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/909">TS</a>]

00:15:11   cycle Kevin marks who was like things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/911">TS</a>]

00:15:14   are unremarkably empower i'm looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/914">TS</a>]

00:15:15   him and when are right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/915">TS</a>]

00:15:17   tweet them just by exactly Kevin and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/917">TS</a>]

00:15:19   have weirdly intersected in loads of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/919">TS</a>]

00:15:22   ways that we've only just realized in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/922">TS</a>]

00:15:25   each other's careers and one of the ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/925">TS</a>]

00:15:26   that we've inspected is that he worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/926">TS</a>]

00:15:28   on that CD rom and had and was living in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/928">TS</a>]

00:15:33   London the time so if we didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/933">TS</a>]

00:15:35   about it we could have just popped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/935">TS</a>]

00:15:36   across London to get a copy but so and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/936">TS</a>]

00:15:40   he also worked played with my morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/940">TS</a>]

00:15:42   presence server that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/942">TS</a>]

00:15:43   I'm yes but so did various things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/943">TS</a>]

00:15:47   such a platonic website and the bizarre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/947">TS</a>]

00:15:52   way we put the novel online which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/952">TS</a>]

00:15:55   entirely in alphabetical order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/955">TS</a>]

00:15:57   we did the doctors com site we did h2g2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/957">TS</a>]

00:16:01   that this was much more involved in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/961">TS</a>]

00:16:02   starship titanic then he wasn't a stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/962">TS</a>]

00:16:04   shit actually parked there for a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/964">TS</a>]

00:16:06   we're talking before the absolute before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/966">TS</a>]

00:16:07   the show started it should do this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/967">TS</a>]

00:16:09   the easy 2.com which is now the BBC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/969">TS</a>]

00:16:11   still own it or these sell it now so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/971">TS</a>]

00:16:14   it's interesting that this is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/974">TS</a>]

00:16:16   still under negotiation because i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/976">TS</a>]

00:16:19   there too and shutting it down because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/979">TS</a>]

00:16:20   they could save some massive sum of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/980">TS</a>]

00:16:22   hundred pounds or something by not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/982">TS</a>]

00:16:23   operating any further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/983">TS</a>]

00:16:25   ya hu this was this was a wikipedia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/985">TS</a>]

00:16:28   before there's wikipedia essentially was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/988">TS</a>]

00:16:30   a mass off kind of uh alright but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/990">TS</a>]

00:16:33   it was a massive depository of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/993">TS</a>]

00:16:35   information kind of a hitchhiker's guide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/995">TS</a>]

00:16:37   style or conceit but it was real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/997">TS</a>]

00:16:40   information had a but you could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:42   people could edit people could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:43   contribute it was less than anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:46   much that was a pocket full or at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:47   wildly inaccurate it contained much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:50   certainly a launch time it contained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:51   much that was people doing really bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:54   dog impressions you know this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:58   thing that happened what one thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1018">TS</a>]

00:16:59   found is that any time you put up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:00   community related to douglas in some way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:02   to get swamped because there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:03   massive myth that that it's a very that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:08   Douglas humor is a very cold thing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:09   a very specific thing and this thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:11   if you if you like it then you want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:12   very select type and you'll meet people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:14   of your kind and of course it's bollocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:15   Douglas humor in the whole reason so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:17   successful is very Universal and trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:19   me up been exposed to enough fans of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:21   Douglas work but that there really isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:25   that much in common with the whole world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:26   it's funny we can talk about that when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28   was interviewing for an article someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:29   to go is there that that's what is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:32   great things you think you're in a tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:34   club that's like five other nurturing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:36   you and you have found this remarkable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:38   special thing and it turns out there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:40   a hundred million people in that Club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:41   you just don't see them all the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:42   time completely and it's also because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:45   when we'll be talking about the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:46   even and great for mentioning about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:48   aspects of Douglass's writing techniques [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:51   that they really loved one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:52   that it was really brought home to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:54   when seeing people do bad bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:56   impression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:56   is that a lot a lot of ducks writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1076">TS</a>]

00:18:01   especially for saying can be lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:03   run-on sentences and really quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:05   convoluted things but a lot of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:07   also incredibly concise the impact of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:11   lot of one of his best jokes comes from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:13   incredible conciseness and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:17   something that people get massively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:18   wrong they think of it maybe they hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20   Peter Jones voice in their head and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:22   go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:23   these wild run on convoluted sentences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:25   and they just die on the vine so badly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:27   having and you know dr. skill was either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:30   in you know anything down so tightly to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:34   have maximum impact or in possibly even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:37   harder being able to maintain a run-on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:39   sentence while maintaining your interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:41   and still making it fine you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:43   anything it's that he has that he has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:46   style that it makes people think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:48   he's doing something different is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50   because he's so quotable and you can the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:52   the credibility of it makes it seem a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:54   lot more trivial but that he's doing he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:56   sort of being silly with language and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:58   actually is something that you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1138">TS</a>]

00:18:59   about what we're talking about is his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:01   sentence structure really resonates with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:04   me because I think that you missed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:07   point if you think i can write a run-on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:09   sentence and have it be this crazy kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:11   of discursive sentence and throw a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:14   of wacky things and will be funny when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:16   in fact a guy and I think this is why he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:18   struggled so much to write at a at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:21   decent pace is because those sentences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:24   that he wrote were constructed very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:27   particularly so that every clause that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:30   got added had a particular comedic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:33   effect and this is what Steve was saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:34   that it was about a piling on it what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:37   you thought it was about a and now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:38   think it's about be and even with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:41   something like the spaceships hanging in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:43   the way in the air the way a brick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:45   doesn't you know every word of that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:49   crafted so that the meaning can change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:52   on the last word in the sentence right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:54   and that that's that was the power of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:56   his style and I think it's so easy for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:59   people who are trying to ape it too just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:02   to miss it to miss the fact that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:04   so much that goes into that structure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:05   it's not just a rambling run on its very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:08   specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:10   you know you can tell that he agonized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:12   over those sentences if you if you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:14   at employees there's one of one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:15   favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:17   yeah but one of the lines of thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:18   one of my favorite lines from older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:20   books is actually from from mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:22   harmless when he's describing New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:24   in the fall when they saying that the s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:27   males like someone's been frying coats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:28   in it and the only way to breathe is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:30   open the window and stick your head in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:32   the building which is just if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:35   that the perfect you know example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:37   like the punchline but completely flips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:40   it is ground you cheat Jason that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:41   haven't had a chance to talk about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43   what what led you to the cult of mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:46   Adams I actually think the way work for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:48   me was was similarly backward to some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:51   the other ways although I not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:52   backward as reading the third book or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:54   reading or doing the hypertext infocomm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:58   game i saw i thought i came to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:00   backwards in terms of like maybe just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:02   came to it sideways my local PBS station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:05   when I was growing up ran doctor who on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:08   saturday nights and and that's where i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:11   watch the you know the tom baker and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:13   peter davison years Doctor Who weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:14   you out on saturday night IE in in high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:18   school and parties with other people i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:19   know i was watching Doctor Who what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:21   you talking about and the list two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:23   things are our I which came first the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:25   chicken or the egg before doctor who won [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:28   one night there was this other british [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:31   sci-fi show and it turned out it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:35   hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:37   adaptation from the early eighties so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:41   watch that and I recorded that on a VHS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:43   tape and I must watch that thing I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:47   know how many times over and over again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   because it was so unlike anything I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:50   ever seen before and um and I actually i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:55   was i think i was like in 8th grade or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:56   freshman in high school and I i took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:58   speech class in high school and we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:01   to memorize a dialogue and i ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:04   memorizing the dialogue between Arthur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:06   debt and mr. Prosser as Arthur is laying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:09   in the in the mud between the bulldozer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:11   and his house having an entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:14   conversation about how he's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:17   go up that leads eventually to him 22 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19   Ford convincing him to mr. Prosser lay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:22   down in the mud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:23   and I can still I think at times recite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:26   that from memory so that's how I that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:27   how I discovered it and so it was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:29   it was the dialogue which was really you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:31   know very representative as it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:33   that struck me about it in the crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:35   ideas and so from there I went to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:37   books and also discovered at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:39   that he was about that same time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:42   his episodes his season of doctor who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:44   was on and he wrote a couple episodes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:48   that so I remember seeing the episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:50   the pirate planet which is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:51   ridiculous and it turns out the episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:53   that i really like from that season was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:55   called the city of death which has got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:57   Leonardo DaVinci any pot paints multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1377">TS</a>]

00:23:00   Mona Lisa's so they could be taken and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:02   chickens and a yes that's true plan it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:05   is true it's not a camera not a key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:07   point but it is there but the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:09   that can pop your time-travel one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:12   things you might do is go back in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:13   and convince Leonardo DaVinci to pet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:15   paint 647 model places so that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:18   sell them all but that doesn't work if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:20   the Mona Lisa's still hanging in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:22   Louvre so what you need to do is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:23   then steal the real Mona Lisa or one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25   the many Mona Lisa's then you can sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27   all of them and this is the plot of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:29   episode it was by a guy named David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31   Agnew but it turns out that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:32   pseudonym because he wrote it basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:35   he he rewrote parts of it from an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:38   earlier screenplay and that's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:40   best original you know classic Doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:43   Who episodes and then watch that we sing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:45   and then I am for years just read Julian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:47   Glover is in that it is a wacky wacky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:50   episode and then only later did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:52   discovered that there was also an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:54   unfinished douglas adams an episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:57   doctor who called sada which it's funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1437">TS</a>]

00:24:00   because by the time I saw they actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:02   have done a kind of a reconstruction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:04   parts of the location footage was never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:06   shot because of a BBC strike my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:09   understanding is actually coming out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:10   the DVD next year or later this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:13   oh wow but with some bridging material [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:16   and some redone special-effects trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:17   to make it as complete as they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:18   without that missing footage but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:20   funny they today right so they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:23   the DVD and presumably expanding it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:24   further and there's actually an audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:26   adaptation that they did Big Finish did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:28   starring paul mcgann that's very funny I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:30   mean that's sort of the pure a complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:32   douglas adams script but the funniest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:34   thing about it to me is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:36   and when i read Dirk Gently holistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:38   detective agency i discovered that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:39   Douglas Adams not wanting to leave that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:42   unfinished episode just sort of sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:44   there at once since it was perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:45   good recycle large portions of it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:49   novel yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:50   Dirk Gently and city city o def and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:52   as well there's elements of both frame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:54   right so so basically i got into douglas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:57   adams from seeing these TV adaptations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:58   and then went back from there to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:01   books and only in the last couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:03   years that I really realized i had never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:06   heard the radio plays and those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:07   fantastic but hey i'm out i'm a late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:09   comer to those which is ironic since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:11   those rubber the originals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:14   maybe the the TV adaptations are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:17   available for streaming on that they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:19   oh and in fact I've just been watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:21   the first three or four of them I as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:23   prep for this podcast and so you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:26   for the whole story you know that wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:27   there's already another fascinating you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:31   know that they did actually show some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:33   the shark material in another doctor in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:35   the in the anniversary special and Tom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:37   Baker didn't want to go in they pulled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:38   the scene out of it and write slapped in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:41   there right in that the lysol yes yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:44   Tom Baker is the only one of the five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:45   boxes and do you know why he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:47   appear he refused to do and he refused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:50   to do it because he was still really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:51   pissed off a doctor who at the concept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:53   of doctor who party because i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:55   getting typecast but mostly because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:57   had an unhappy love affair specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1557">TS</a>]

00:25:59   with lot of wars who was that he'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:01   married romana la reward and they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:04   been married for like 16 months and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:06   they split up and he was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:07   heartbroken about it and he didn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:09   to do any more doctor who until much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:11   later when he finally got back into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:13   loll award who ended up married to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:15   Richard introduced by Douglas Adams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:17   introduced bipartisan group yes all go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:21   back to Douglas out solutions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:23   here's the funny thing i i'm i'm sooo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:24   myself for last I actually picked up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:27   first the hitchhiker's guide book the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:29   original one in junior high and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:31   the first exposure to douglas adams and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:33   I fell in love in the first page so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:35   have this extremely boring story i saved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:36   it for last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:37   i started at the beginning it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:39   weird i know what is wrong with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:41   that's what it's looking like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:43   technically listen to the radio show on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:44   the BBC would be right it's true start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:48   but and i'm sure i remember coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:49   back to remember reading the books and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:51   then hearing 30 shows had come out and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:53   think I listened to some of the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:54   shows but not much either LLP's as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:57   but the American releases which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:58   believe are somewhat different think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:00   have the British releases of the of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:03   LPS and thinking was sort of fun but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:06   know I didn't quite capture what the joy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08   the radio once were and then I later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:10   read the radio plays I've heard some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:12   the radio adaptations are the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:13   sin like all those were much more fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:15   and they were crazy when i was reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:17   the real game and wrote the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:19   version of the don't panic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:21   biography which i recommend i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:23   had guys you never talk about this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:25   four major overhauls over 20 hours and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:28   each of them in it was great as if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:30   read the book i read i just read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:32   latest version of it which is just a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:34   years old and there are four levels of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36   footnotes where do game in the human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:38   state will say something in some more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:40   comments become Talmudic with all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:42   while he was the apocryphal other detail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:45   around off its nobody's allowed to raise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:48   the previous well thank you overhaul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:49   original native ads and stuff but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:51   it's really fun but you get from reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:53   those we all know we've talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:54   already this episode and douglas adams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56   was had legendary inability to meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1676">TS</a>]

00:28:00   deadlines what's everyone knows the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:01   quoted some i love the sound of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:03   deadlines especially as they go whizzing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:04   past me is a that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:06   whooshing noises like yeah so so in when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:10   he's doing radio plays I mean he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:12   be literally I believe in a control room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:14   somewhere right in the dialogue that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:16   about to be recorded as the actors are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:18   speaking the previous lines that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:20   just written just about and monumentally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:23   monumentally late so explain some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:25   craziness and the original research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:27   shows these always fixing and every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:29   you have the opportunity to do a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:31   edition of hitchhikers guide or do some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33   revision he always made changes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:34   always try to improve on it and refine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:36   that the core ideas and take out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38   things he thought were sloppy or loser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:41   or hazardous and so it triggers guide if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:44   you read different editions of any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:45   her different things it changed over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:47   years to until it reaches sort of i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:49   think a definitive edition i just got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:52   this crazy thing is illustrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:53   Hitchhiker's Guide yeah yeah like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:56   moment's notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:56   yeah it's crazy it's the photography is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:58   really bizarre and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:00   it's kind of fun but it's really it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:02   one of the weirdest things I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:04   because it sort of I don't they went off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:06   and shot you know photography of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:08   ocean for some weeks or months to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:10   this pod coffee table book one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:13   things about the illustrated guide is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:15   that they have been several designs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:17   Marvin over the years and i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:20   the mob in the illustrated guide is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:22   closest to what Douglas actually saw was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:24   Marvin he always hated the original TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:26   series Marvin bit because actually just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:29   going to speak in favor of the time i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:31   love this very serious my i really love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:33   that you know it's funny because in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:35   book he was he was amusing but he got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:37   tedious after a bit and then there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39   just something so depressing about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:41   TV series Marvin that I just never get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:44   tired of me watch dead and the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:46   four episodes now it's just I finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:48   Larry is the way walks and even signed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:51   depressingly I mean it's boxy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:52   ridiculously ok if you contrast so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:54   know we we should talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:55   triggers guide movie also which I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:57   liked to have gotten so we gave it to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1797">TS</a>]

00:29:59   as a gift to get on DVD and the Marvin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:01   there i think is also wonderful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:03   totally different conception as well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:06   what I sort of love is that the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:08   series Zaphod his second head it'd never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:11   work right and they spent some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:12   ridiculous amount of money for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:13   mechanical head for the TV show it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:16   terrible and it occasionally spits out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:18   something in the actor ethic was losing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:20   the use of his arm because it kept going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:22   numb and the blood was cut off was tied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:24   behind him and then the movie they kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:25   of make the two heads work and it sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:27   of I i think that the movie was much so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:29   much more polished that I think the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:31   heads working seems so disappointed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:33   it was actually such a good head for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:35   much of the film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:36   yeah right i didn't write the movie at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:38   all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:39   share with us our whois record yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:42   didn't like the movie at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:43   I mean in fact even the TV series and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:46   it's certainly better than the movie but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:47   I don't like visual representations the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:50   coffee table book doesn't work for me i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:52   would much rather have this stuff in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:54   head because it's so inventive that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:56   see somebody else you know render it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:59   into reality and it's wrong i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:04   like in the original TV series forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:07   and Arthur are perfectly cast but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:09   trillion was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:11   yeah yeah it's just drama as a mother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:15   sharon and I've been for but for North [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:17   are dead on the TV so yeah god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:19   especially especially Arthur who's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:22   I mean I it was the same act right Simon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:24   Jones from the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:26   oh man he's phenomenal I mean anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:30   the movie he wrote and moving always the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:32   user would see the movie I've forgotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:33   he's the micros via recorded message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:37   yeah but I would much rather have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:39   douglas adams on the page or in my ears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:41   that in front of my face just because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:43   is so inventive and so out there that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:46   it's just that it from my perspective it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:48   will be wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:49   I'm sure somebody working very very hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:50   on it and they spend a lot of money to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:52   make it exactly what they wanted but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:53   it's just not right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:55   well that the thing I liked about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:57   movie i have to say is that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:58   different than the book so I didn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:00   the same feeling of disappointment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:01   because I thought they'd be conceived of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:04   of things a bit then try to be a slavish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:06   and then of course i read not that long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:08   ago I don't think I understood this that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:09   the movie that movie was in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:11   biography that the movie that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:13   doesn't actually worked on the movie i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:15   mean i know it worked on it but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:16   what made the screen was not too far for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:19   his conception it wasn't oh I filmmakers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:21   took i have no doubt literally the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:22   douglas adams i have read is now mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:24   and it's been in my head for 30 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:28   and I respect douglas adams vision but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:32   he gave that to me 30 years ago and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:35   wrong but what i have in my head is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:38   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:39   marito shot exactly it's what i have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:42   my head is arvind was boxes never felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:44   as far as I'm concerned that's Marvin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:46   didn't have a shape he wasn't box he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:48   wasn't around he was Marvin and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:50   never nailed that down and so to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:52   somebody take stabs at it just feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:54   uncomfortable this is your characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:57   that I love in situations that i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:59   and you give me a perfect transition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:01   which is I want to talk about since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03   we're talking about the books five books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:04   right five books the increasingly in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:06   accurately named trilogy and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:08   talking largely about the first one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:09   that's what the movie is really sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:12   mostly about the first with elements of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:13   all kinds of other stuff and the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:15   series was was really the was the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:17   and restaurant the universe is part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:19   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:20   two members in the series include the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:21   restaurant answer that yes not like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23   cocl bit but I do appreciate it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:27   around the TV star first two books so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:28   but I'm you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:29   toilet flushing sound at the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:30   universe hehe but i would say start fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:34   my favorite character across all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:36   books identify with them it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:38   greatest name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:39   yes in your name is not important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:42   he says yeah what it's like you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:47   have that he came up with the name was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49   Douglas wrote down he do basic breakdown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:53   a whole lot of roots words you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:54   think of I think he came up with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:55   fucking balls and then he basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:58   chopped up all the phonemes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:00   syllables and just rearranged everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:02   until he had something that he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:04   allowed to say on the radio but still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:06   sounded complete that's like most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:08   gratuitous use of the word belgium it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:10   did you tell me the one about that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:12   also hated the Secretary was making fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:13   of the Secretary had a type of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:15   scripts because she had to keep typing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:17   start fast he said he wouldn't tell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:19   name so the Secretary's type of way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:20   Slartibartfast are fast in the scripts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:22   and the character is not using his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:24   name for this whole exchange shot a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:27   stipend over maybe that's into a panic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:30   but i like i love bill nighy so I loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:33   his portrayal the movie but i always i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:34   thought you know they'd be brought back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:36   started our fast in book 3 becomes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:39   know more of a crusader but i just love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:40   this man who's loaded devoted his life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:42   to making you know nice crinkly fjords [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:44   and the fiddly bits and it's going out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:46   of style and you're not a word he wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:49   to but it turns out to be nice for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:50   friendly guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:51   sorry bar fast you know it gives them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:53   the flyer to get away when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:55   escaping from the goon squad on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:57   Magrathea trying to slice and dice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2097">TS</a>]

00:35:00   Arthur's brain and who else it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:02   people must have favorite characters i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:05   hear a lot of Marvins in this discussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:07   Arthur to identify with only a big head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:10   yes perhaps depressingly cell and it put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:14   upon every man who is totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:15   overwhelmed by events yeah that's me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17   that's that's why i never liked the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:19   fourth book because so much of a partier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:22   is darker is happy he is and how long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:25   yeah he's not meant to be happy he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:27   been to be frustrated and put them on by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:30   everybody around him he is he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32   meant for happy and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:33   and hence why i think i said earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:35   podcast I maybe didn't make the final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:37   cut that that I love the ending of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:40   mostly harmless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:42   oh that's what i have to say i I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:44   never read the book a second time I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:45   so depressed by it but i understand that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:47   yeah for the authors happy because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:50   douglas adams was happy with that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:52   book five Douglas was very depressed but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54   mostly harmless so the book is like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:56   remember reading an interview with him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:57   later saying I you know I wasn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2157">TS</a>]

00:36:00   great mood when i wrote that I got that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:01   impression and it to me so much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:03   douglas adams work and maybe this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:05   reflection on just a state of mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:07   throughout much of his life but was was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:10   based on just utter frustration it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:14   mean Arthur I don't know to what extent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:17   douglas adams kind of saw parallels in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:20   in Arthur but I i think that's also why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:23   the the games are so freaking hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:27   The Hitchhiker's Guide game to say is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:29   fairly commonly consider our record is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:32   sooo bureaucracy which was all about me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:34   the whole game is about frustration I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:37   ironically it was considerably easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:38   than the Hitchhiker's Guide game but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:41   mean that was sort of with that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:42   people want to know your common sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:44   that you know i never got that far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:47   through the hitchhiker's game if I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:48   this guy you know if i recall whether it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:50   was it wasn't exactly was it feudal was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:52   our goal there was a way to win the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:54   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:55   it actually wasn't that difficult game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:57   but it wasn't very first interactive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:58   fiction game that intentionally lied to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:00   you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:01   okay i dont they detect that prince will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:05   come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:05   I was an infant on beta tester in high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:07   school Wow and I did Hollywood hijinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09   and ballyhoo and all Wow lurking horror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:13   and Hitchhiker's Guide handsome they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:15   eventually offered hints to beta testers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:18   who couldn't get off the heart of gold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:20   I think that was kind of our first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:23   things I remember where they actually in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:25   the manual came out and said this is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:27   you get through this puzzle before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:28   even start the game haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:30   the idea was automatically babbling but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:34   the table's puzzle but uh yeah that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:37   think they're probably too sticking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39   points that people reference when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:40   talk about how how ridiculously hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:42   that was one of the tables puzzle which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:45   is difficult but not impossible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:47   because at that point you haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:48   collected so much stuff that he can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50   really figure out what you need to drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:51   in front of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:52   yeah and then the other idea because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:54   microscopic basically the witch which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:58   I think you're on board and it swallowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:01   by a dog and you have to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:02   connection that way way back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:05   first few scenes of the game you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:07   distract ya we only kill the dog can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:11   cough or other girl can't swallow the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:12   free trade right without actually cheese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:14   sandwiches full if I may do a reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:17   yeah actually there's an app called wats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:21   available in reference to a spell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:23   enchanter that allows you to play old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:26   info con games and I have it sitting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:27   my ipad now and and open to a select [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:31   page of The Hitchhiker's game pray read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:34   to a while telling the silicon shell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:37   it's like a sphere so initially there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:39   a description of the cheese sandwich and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:40   and this is I think what a great example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:42   of of what i think is the genius of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:44   atoms and is his way of just sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:47   stretching out a sentence and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:49   pitching things so perfectly for maximum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:50   impact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:51   so what the input is by cheese sandwich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:54   and the output you get is the barman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:57   gives you a cheese sandwich the bread is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2337">TS</a>]

00:39:00   like the stuff that stereos compact in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:02   the cheese would be great for rubbing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:03   out spelling mistakes and margarine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:05   pickle have performed an unedifying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:07   chemical reaction to produce something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:09   that shouldn't be but is turquoise since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:12   it is clearly unfit for human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:14   consumption you are grateful to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:15   charged only a pound for it a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17   further down if you're wise enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19   give the cheese sandwich the dog you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:21   told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:22   the dog is deeply moved with powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:25   sweeps of its tail it indicates that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:27   regards this cheese sandwich is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:29   the great cheese sandwiches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:31   nine out of ten pet owners could happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:33   by at this point expressing any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:35   preference they pleased but this dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:36   would spurn both them and all their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:38   teens this is a dog which has met its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:41   main sandwich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:42   it eats with passion and ignores a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:45   passing microscopic space fleet but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:49   think i still had the fluff that came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:52   with the game like a little flat and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:53   there was in fact a microscopic Spacely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:55   which was in fact just a cell phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:57   package it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2397">TS</a>]

00:39:58   oh that's when plastic bag yeah Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:01   has faced blade on a bit of cardboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:02   that stayed out there and thinking I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:03   loved infocomm feelings now that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:06   good but no yes since you actually grew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:08   up in Blade II was the food that bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:11   then was the food that bad when I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:14   know i don't think it's high season to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:16   spend a lot of my time you spend a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:18   of my time currently defending British [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:20   food to people who i am now it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:22   ending matter and it's a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:24   matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:24   well he's been living here for well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:26   there's a whole gastropub i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:27   gastropubs and there's certain things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:29   that I really missed from britain now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:31   live in San Francisco living in Texas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:33   gets past five years and i really miss a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:35   nice banoffee pie which is the non it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:38   sounds like the sort of thing you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:39   get very cheaply and Francisco certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:42   parts and yes except that it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:46   different experience and you kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:48   wake up with all these kind of with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:49   bruises but I'm but did you see and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:52   given roadside I mean I think it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:55   I have to say of all the things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:57   most foreign to me about the books which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:59   is you know I i feel like i have a some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:01   understanding of the culture and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:02   been to England a few times and so forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:04   but but it's the Buddhist adam talks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:06   about the terrible the sheer awfulness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:08   of the food so often i think is it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:11   the food he ate or I get them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:13   resonate with you being stuffed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:14   black pudding at age seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:16   I get the impression of the food me when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:18   you was at some point little generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:21   terrible but I'll i said i've been four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:23   times in the last 10 years and it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:24   great so something happened but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:27   was a time certainly I mean for partners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:30   pub food was that bad and legendarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:32   British Rail food they had legendarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:35   bad sandwiches I mean they were really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:37   want to start with loads of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:39   didn't count it was a constant source of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:41   sorts of humor but now that we've now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:43   that we know we've had privatization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:44   everything everything is is bad whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:47   other neway at about the good thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:50   it is now been outsourced to multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:52   different companies so they can compete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:53   on innovating whole new ways of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:55   bad which i think that's that's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:59   things that we quote in the in the trade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:00   all the time I think Jason and i were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:02   talking about this not too long ago is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:04   the phrase about the Sirius cybernetics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:06   corpse new traumatic machine which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:09   produces a substance almost but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:11   quite entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:12   unlike t it in the related related a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:15   with the machines that they make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:17   that the they have so many major design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:20   flaws that once you overcome them you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:21   so overjoyed getting the thing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:23   anything that you overlooked the minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:24   design flaws which is I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:26   majority of products reviews seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:28   fall into that category is for those who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:31   just finished reading up on the games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:33   one thing that can point to as well is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:35   the year in the various links is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:38   hour-and-a-half session we have Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40   maretskiy who did who coded the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:43   hitchhiker's game with Douglas and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:45   Michael by water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:46   who is he wrote parts of he wrote most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:52   of bureaucracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:53   actually he was pulled into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:54   rightmost proxy instead of Douglas and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:57   he also wrote big chunks off starship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2577">TS</a>]

00:42:59   titanic and the bump around it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:01   various other interactive fiction games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:04   that have nothing to do with Douglas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:05   there's a company called magnetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07   Scrolls which did a back in kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:11   late eighties early nineties did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:13   number of very popular 16-bit adventure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:15   games that have amazing graphics and use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17   some of that stuff and he's also most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:20   famous connection is that he is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:22   person on whom the character of dirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:23   Gentiles base and he's so you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:28   this and a half recording of the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:29   thing and it's what because daughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:31   because michael is fantastic rack onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:33   her and they do a whole load of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:35   reminiscing about infocomm especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:38   and so something like I have that link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:41   for you and I think the show notes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:43   should be a lot of fun too and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:46   why I think this is part of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:47   remarkable thing about the list is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:48   he I mean we've talked to us if we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:51   a lot of the books and movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:52   whatever it's like we're not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:53   talking about you that the in the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:55   games but also in text games he was such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:58   an early computer user and he was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2638">TS</a>]

00:43:59   pressing about he seemed to have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:02   user experience in my life he actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:03   understood what people might want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:05   besides organized recipes in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:07   kitchen and I recall buying the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:09   first edition of Dirk Gently the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:10   detective asian we came out I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:12   graphic design major in college I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:14   been a typesetter I've trained a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:16   typesetter high school of you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:17   not 90 years old but strangely have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:20   career and I got to gently detective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:22   agency open it up and I'm like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:23   bastard typeset himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:25   if I could tell on the first page and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:28   you read it and you know you read that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:29   he was so phenomenally late with Dirk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:32   Gently that he had to not just write the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:35   book but set it and output on his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:37   laserwriter and I think dashing across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:38   town you know to get it to the printers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:40   to get out and in later editions were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:42   types of a little more superiorly but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:44   but this that once backfired really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:47   spectacularly in the book of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:50   novelization of start a panic which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:52   written by terry jones because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:54   originally doctor said he didn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:56   write it and we tossed around like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:58   people to write it and then doctor said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2698">TS</a>]

00:44:59   he didn't want to write it and then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:01   spent a whole year not writing it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:02   then it got to 3 weeks before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:05   deadline and i said yeah i can write it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:08   and so we pulled in terry jones who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:09   reportedly brought the entire book in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2709">TS</a>]

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00:45:13   you know he turned out a book in three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:15   weeks and it's pretty good for a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:16   that was turned out in three weeks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:17   Douglas introduction and then sent the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:21   file obviously remarkably laid off to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:23   the printers and it comes out and look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2723">TS</a>]

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00:45:26   giants waves of white space and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:30   think is this some kind of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:31   house of leaves style a poetry thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:35   going because they look fairly poetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:37   with these huge optics ways of white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2737">TS</a>]

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00:45:40   typesetters didn't didn't load the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:43   correctly or some somehow it got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:45   corrupted and the types was just going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:47   out we thought you wanted it to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:48   like that so beautiful but I recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:51   stephen fry wrote something i think when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:54   that was when they transcribe when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:55   came out he was something on this blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57   about whenever new software came out he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:59   would you know dash down the street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:01   knock on the door and say hello to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:03   notice his wife and say can I can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:05   upstairs studies there run upstairs with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:06   a floppy disk made plug it in and do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:09   latest thing you know that wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:10   actually work and be frustrated with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:11   bang on the machine all day going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:13   something but I i think it was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:15   extraordinary for an author in those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:17   days and somebody who wasn't necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:19   technologist the what he understood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:21   about was going on with technology how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:23   people would use it in the future the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:25   hyper landing a notable example hyper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:28   you know a special about hypertext [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:30   essentially before anyone had really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:32   most people put hands on a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:34   sophisticated computer and personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:37   computers are out but they're mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:38   doing sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:39   boring things nothing quite like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:41   and nothing that interactive with other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:43   people or information but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:46   desktop publishing is early with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:47   interactive fiction all these sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:49   things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:50   no he was he was definitely not only in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:53   technology enthusiast but but could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:56   write just so well about in your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:59   your line earlier about his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:02   understanding of the compromises that go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:05   into technology products especially in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:07   that he he took this he was incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:09   enthusiastic about them but also really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:10   perceptive about the failings of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:13   and how they failed in spectacular and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:15   absurd ways he wrote a bunch of columns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:18   for various magazines in that period in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:21   the eighties and nineties and and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:23   were always hilarious that which is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:25   surprising because this Douglas Adams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:27   but they were hilarious also because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:29   was so knowledgeable he was clearly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:31   fan and he had this great enthusiasm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:34   and so could be critical in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:36   only a true fan can be and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:39   that's one of the things that that I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:41   miss the most about about him being gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:44   is that I keep thinking about new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:46   technologies and what he would say about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:49   them and anion honestly will admit when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:51   I held that held the ipad for the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:53   time and was looking things up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:55   Wikipedia or other things in the a.m on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:58   a wireless connection on an ipad i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:00   thought i was struck almost immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:02   by the fact that i was in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:04   using the thing closest to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:06   hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:08   had arrived and that Douglas Adams would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:10   never get a chance to see it although he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:12   did basically envision it himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:15   I think that having his science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:17   is good science fiction and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:20   independent of all the parity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:21   humorous aspects of it only one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:23   reasons is because he's such a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:24   technologist hitchhiker's guide the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:27   is not not the novel the the device in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:30   the story is a terrific science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:33   trope it serves a lot of fictional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:35   purposes but you could see that existing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:37   because hey here it is in front of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:39   Steve's talking on it and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:41   that the infinite improbability drive is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:44   a great science-fiction idea how it came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:47   about I was just reading a book physics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:50   book I talk about this on them on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:51   previous podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:52   and it's all about parallel universes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:54   and probabilities and high you know did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:57   do when when two things can happen do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:59   both things happen and create parallel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:01   universes and as I'm reading through he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:03   starts to talk about probability and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:04   this crazy like cutting edge physics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:07   above probability of multiple universes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:08   and all of a sudden I realized it oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:11   God he's talking about the infinite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:13   improbability drive here it's amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:16   it's one of the improbable infant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:19   probability drive i think is my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:21   MacGuffin out of all the books and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:24   agree story because it's the way he cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:28   the famous story about how we can't came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:30   up with it was that he had just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:33   he was making everything up as he went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:34   along he had just thrown author and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:36   forward out of open airlock to die in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:39   the vacuum of space which was a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:41   idea part of the factory had no idea how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:44   to rescue them and the trouble was he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:46   came up with all these different ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:47   and was defeated by the shearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:49   probability of them because that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:52   know space being besides it is can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:54   just have another spaceship magically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:56   turn up you if you know that you is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:58   brightly Douglas was smart enough about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:00   space in the class i know this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:02   impossible and so we got very depressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:03   about this and sat down to watch TV and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3003">TS</a>]

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00:50:09   is that you use your opponent's weight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3009">TS</a>]

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00:50:12   wrestler after the other council members [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:13   are throwing themselves at you and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3013">TS</a>]

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00:50:16   they weigh 300 pounds becomes their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:18   problem not yours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:19   and so you turn the problem against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:22   itself and so he said I was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:23   probability is the problem therefore it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:26   should be solution and so but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:27   that that's the story around it but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:29   thing about it is the way but not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:31   as it served its purpose there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:33   continually throughout the various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:34   stories in that suddenly it's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:38   things I love most about this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:42   analogy of I've never any sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44   Douglas a sci-fi writer I think he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:46   satirist who happens to be really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:48   at using set sci-fi to drive comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:50   with although all the mechanisms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:52   sci-fi mhm exactly exactly but that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:56   know you have this sci-fi universe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:57   fittings but at the heart of it SAT up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3057">TS</a>]

00:50:59   and the heart of gold is a spaceship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:03   that looks like a normal space ship but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:04   at the heart of it is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:06   completely ridiculous and it's this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:10   of he has given himself ultimate license [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:14   in a way that you now only have with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:17   know that it's finally been explained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:19   the TARDIS to have the ship take its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:23   characters around into the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:25   ridiculous situations for the helmet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:26   looks like it's patrick mcgoohan being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:29   able to write the prisoner TV series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:31   that is you know a skewering and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:33   satire and a deconstruction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:36   subversive version of his previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:37   series about a special in a secret agent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:39   the same thing as Douglas Adams had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:41   work on Doctor Who in order to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:43   something so ridiculous that that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:48   could be could have access to all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:50   tropes of science fiction but everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:51   is familiar with and then turn them all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:53   on their head and to say well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:54   instead of being too Wiggly what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:56   no doctor who is actually become very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:57   much more like a trucker's guide over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3117">TS</a>]

00:52:00   the years as a result i mean i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:02   more modern series are sillier about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:05   certain aspects of Technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:06   wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey thing as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:08   more diverse atoms that original Doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10   Who I wanted to learn to speak in a min [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:13   well speak positively about my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:17   thing that in the hitch-hiker serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19   which is actually I know it's easy to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:21   this because we're we're doing a podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:23   number 42 of the uncomfortable but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:25   story of the building of deep thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:27   you know it is it is brilliant in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:32   of Technology it's brilliant in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:34   satire i would argue that if that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:36   short story it would be legendary as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:39   short story because it is so funny and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:43   so true and in some ways then I also one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:48   of the things that i love about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:50   maybe my favorite revelation and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:52   entire series is that much later there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:55   an even bigger punch line when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:57   discovers that this entire final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3177">TS</a>]

00:53:01   computer that will come after deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:03   thought has been messed up by the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:06   that that that the humans have come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:08   the planet the the telephone sanitizers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:11   and hairdressers and the punch line is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:13   that the question that there they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:16   come up with 442 is what what is eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:19   times seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:20   if it's like I always remember something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:23   fundamentally wrong aren't this says so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:25   that hold the whole thing I mean and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27   there's a reason 42 has a residence that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:29   story is so fantastic and it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:31   crushing because it is a failure of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:33   imagination of the people who build it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:35   it's a failure of technology it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:38   just such a fantastic story so I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:40   wanted to to do some some drive-by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:42   praise of it because it is it's easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:45   it's easy to just take it for granted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:46   and it is it is brilliant and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:49   brilliantly I think realized given the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:51   budget especially in the in the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:54   series but it's just such a such a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:56   thing that building the greatest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:57   computer ever and it gives you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:59   answer you want and it's completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:01   useless all it's also full of so many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:04   those great lines on your advocacy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:05   probably not you know he might talk the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:07   legs off a nocturnal make a donkey but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:09   only I can make him get up and take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:10   walk later and just this you endless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:12   series of little jokes and puns and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:14   Philosopher's we just thought we we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:17   demand originally defined areas that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:19   Alan tonight and it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:21   well I mean by location rates the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:23   religious satire and and the flock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:25   philosophical satire and the egg so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:27   romantic i really just after all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:29   together up just about the absurdity of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:31   the whole thing and searching for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:33   kind of unanswerable the answer to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:36   unanswerable questions and I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:38   philosophically I really appreciate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:41   it is you know of course we're always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:43   going to be questing for this but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:45   reality is it can't be answered or if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:48   is inserted we won't understand what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:49   answer is anyway i will point out one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:52   the the the superior things that movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:54   that is not on the books but it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:56   very Douglas is the bit where there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:58   the point of view God is not the weapon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:00   in the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:01   yeah a fun and he had that kicking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:03   around but many creations little records [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:05   usually story it's a familiar and so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:08   bit where they finally get it and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10   trillion fires a father he says all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12   kinds of things that he grabs and fires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:14   that her he says it didn't work and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:16   says of course that I'm a woman and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:18   just thought that was a person walks off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:21   so perfect it's like I already know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:23   everybody else feels thank you very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:25   i love my way i did want to mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:26   something else about the BBC series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:28   which as I said I've just watched the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:30   first time a few days ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:32   the TV's yes uh and and Jason you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:37   have actually missed this having viewed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:38   on PBS but pretty early on in the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:41   episode they're going through the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:42   long the whole long monologue about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:46   everybody on earth is unhappy and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:48   sort of working up to the bit where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:49   woman in the cafe I in rickmansworth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:52   suddenly realizes what it's all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:54   and then suddenly the planet is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:55   demolished which I guess it's kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:57   nice little mirror story the whole deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3357">TS</a>]

00:55:59   thought think but I was rather surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:03   to find a cameo from douglas adams in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:06   that in that episode and more more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:09   specifically his naked bomb peers looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:15   like i was amused to see him looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:17   depressed and and holding a lot of cash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:19   and then I was made I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:21   dismayed is the word i guess more amused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:24   to see him turn away from the camera and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:27   walk naked Lee into the sea you know his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:31   his pale British cheeks flapping in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:34   breeze and India tell that moment I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:38   never really understood just exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:40   what a critical piece of equipment towel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:42   really is haha that joke about the woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:46   who figures it all out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:48   it's like a fourth paragraph of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:49   first page of the first book is is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:51   right that's our first inkling that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:53   things aren't going to go where I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:55   never figure out where the monologue fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:57   because they move around depending on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3417">TS</a>]

00:56:58   which verse its yeah it is yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:01   it's it's true i said on two previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:03   podcast now but just to restate i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:05   the fact that this is so funny and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:07   so dark that he he has the bold stroke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:10   of destroying planet Earth immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:12   it's just you get another way and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:15   you can just move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:16   I like that he was trying to challenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:17   himself I mean you guys mentioned that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:19   that he he rejects Arthur and forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:21   into space and doesn't know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:23   resolve it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:24   I I did feel like in some ways that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:26   a motivator for him to keep writing what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:29   a ball plus you need cliffhangers for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:31   the radio show but it's the idea is I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:32   just going to do this and that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:34   force me to figure something else out so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:36   i'm going to destroy the earth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:37   I'm not gonna be able to go back there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:39   I'm just gonna have to figure out what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:41   i'm going to do next what a what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:43   marvelous comment on the man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:45   and his attitude is that he has his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:48   cameo you know as big a meal with i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:50   remembers and he uses it to show i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:52   remember the naked man do you remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:54   the naked man its i just did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:57   remember that it was Douglas Adams so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:58   it's it's called not all of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:00   you also mentioned Terry Jones running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:02   nude before and monty python's appears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:04   nude playing the key the the organ not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:09   his own Oregon battery in uh yeah what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:12   marked have one explicit at the opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:15   of Monty Python you don't sound as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:16   walking nude into the ocean it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:19   it's all plants resources with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21   British people like and well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:24   since your carrots over here and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:26   all terribly repressed yea and amen amen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:29   and everybody joyously throws their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:32   clothes off and run into the ocean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:34   the other thing with the Explorer end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:38   the the the movie about the moment where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:41   the earth is destroyed leaving out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:42   moment moment that the earth is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:44   destroyed and you see everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:46   panicking and screaming and then there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:48   a moment we see one ultimate sitting at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:49   a café looking around and just paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:52   no attention at all and going back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:53   reading a paper that is the hallmark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:55   that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:57   yeah but they was the movie has loads of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3537">TS</a>]

00:59:00   these kind of bizarre things in it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:02   loads of references to talking to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:04   about it leading up to the movie's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:05   release everybody was saying yo solo two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:09   variations on I don't care what it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:11   in the movie as long as it's got X if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:13   your ex is in the movie then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:14   probably liked it and if it isn't then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:16   you don't always thought I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:17   infuriated the beware of the leopard was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:20   my actually it might be my very favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:22   line okay is it all of the books but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:24   remember what isn't I mean I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:25   the light them mostly harmless line is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:27   not in the final I think it's in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:29   deleted seems most of the rest of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:32   there's no not again is in the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:36   yes what yes and Bill Bailey Turner's as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:39   the while which is wonderful it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:41   critical that i was one of the greatest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:42   it's one of its part of that crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:44   things like what happens to the missiles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:45   oh well they're turned into a giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:47   whale and our part 2 engines course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:50   oh no not again the part of petunias [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:52   thanks to itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:54   well I think this brings us to the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:56   of another mighty mighty via comparable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:59   but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59   but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00   no not again I believe Oh before his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:03   podcast will repeat in that bbc3 before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:07   we close our I i mean i discovered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:12   douglas adams a long time ago and I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:14   to meet him once very briefly at a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:15   signing where I was a grinning at I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:17   remember the day that the news broke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:20   that he had died and I was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:22   heartbroken I mean I had I'd read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:27   everything he's ever written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:29   you know I've listened to it in every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:30   and watching every media I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:32   he's had this enormous influence on who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:36   I have become who i want to become how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:39   want to write and and how I want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:41   funny and what defines my personality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:45   and and how I communicate with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:47   friends even and then he was dead and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:54   couldn't have the BBC was very annoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:57   I'm he was was he late on delivering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3657">TS</a>]

01:01:00   something at that point is certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:02   worth it was but now it was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:05   because that when they made the deal to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:07   buy h2g2 off the digital village which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:10   was you know basically had run out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:12   money they also got a deal that Douglas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:15   to do several series for them on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:17   something and then suppose it'll get out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:19   of writing one time later early he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3679">TS</a>]

01:01:24   still working on things I remember that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:26   day to very clearly my boss at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:29   was a huge Douglas Evans family and had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:31   I think edited a couple of his things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:33   for various técnicas means and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:37   very sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:38   in the intervening 10 years and it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:40   been 10 years now what comforts me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:44   just the fact that after 10 years I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:46   like after he died people were able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:50   reflect a little bit about what his work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:54   was and you know I feel now 10 years on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:58   like the hitchhiker's guide to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3718">TS</a>]

01:01:59   galaxy in some form is going to be it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:03   part of what the plastic and be regarded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:05   as a classic for a long time to come and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:08   not just sort of the silly comedy thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:10   that happened in the nineteen eighties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:12   and that really warms my heart to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:15   that because he deserves it because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:16   is it is of it is a one-of-a-kind and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:20   is brimming with ideas and is fall down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:23   funny and so that's that's great i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:27   sure i have an omnibus of all the books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:28   I sort of feel like perhaps the cooler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:31   heads will prevail and maybe constrain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:34   it to the first three but uh huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:36   in terms of the cannon but some amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:39   stuff and I so that makes me feel better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:40   about it at ten years on is that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:42   he's going to be remembered and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:44   appreciated for a long time to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:46   her that there was i do remember i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:51   the the night i found out that Douglas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:55   died it was it was on a Friday night and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:57   um a couple of TV colleagues drover arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3777">TS</a>]

01:03:02   in tears and we've basically suspend the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:05   evening sitting and reminiscing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:06   him and only these two my continued [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:10   regret that I didn't actually spend that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:12   much time with him when he was alive not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:15   after he's dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:16   yeah we never hang out all the time over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:19   to her boss rush up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:22   it's a heat gun was surprised when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:24   atheists they have the it was but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:28   that i can't remember which if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:31   saying sorry we're saying it but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:33   the whole thing every time there is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:36   amazing new device especially from Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:37   you know the iphone and the ipad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:40   look at it and just go just this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:42   desperate wish that Douglas was around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:44   here and there was some there was Shawn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:48   who I mentioned earlier on so like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:49   colleague a TV has was actually came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:51   over friday night arm tweeted the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:54   day on the anniversary of his death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:55   wondering what does sort of thought of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:58   Twitter thinking that Douglas probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:00   would have loved it and anybody actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3840">TS</a>]

01:04:03   trying to get into some work would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:04   hated it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:05   it's funny because that the one place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3845">TS</a>]

01:04:07   that I was thinking where the we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:11   learning from douglas adams about how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:13   just perfectly structure a comedy bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:15   into the smallest get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:18   the one place where that's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3858">TS</a>]

01:04:19   helped is on Twitter we only have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:22   hundred and forty days and you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:23   make every character count [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:25   it's dogs perfect medium you know he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:29   one of the things that he was so good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:31   was compressing an idea right down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3871">TS</a>]

01:04:34   two a key senses something that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:38   Apple actually took one of his lines and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:41   used it a new advertising campaign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:43   coming up to the 2,000 talking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:47   shouting about how a mac OS was was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:51   fully y2k compliant they used to quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:53   from Douglas which was something lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:55   of year there's not a lot we know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:57   the future but we should have guessed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3897">TS</a>]

01:04:58   the century was going to end the memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:02   was scarce and programmers cursory well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:07   I think we have to reduce to close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:08   gentleman will lift a lift virtual toast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:10   to the memory of douglas adams a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:13   man and all people i always say there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:15   an atheist because I would like him to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:17   be in heaven right now that's a that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:19   the the don't that's an Irish toast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:21   reverse I think it's a reverse Irish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:23   toast that will do the reverse polish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:26   notation the next episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:27   thank you very much gentlemen Greg NOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:30   thank you for being on this bike and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3930">TS</a>]

01:05:31   thank you glenn Steve let's thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:33   for springtime from your undisclosed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:35   location in a hotel using an iPad over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:38   Wi-Fi and skype and I've been Angeles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:41   for the last 40 minute to respond to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:44   library and in honor again of a douglas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:47   adams getting taste and smell thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:50   for joining us and thank you for having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:52   me well hosted sir thank you and yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:54   thank you for being our special guest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:56   tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3956">TS</a>]

01:05:57   thank you so much for inviting me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:58   put out with my relentless rounding this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3958">TS</a>]

01:06:01   is the nature of this podcast that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:03   felt right at me so thank you all when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3963">TS</a>]

01:06:06   placement signing off for our episode 42 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3966">TS</a>]

01:06:10   of the couple podcast back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:12   thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:21   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa1cLC8/3981">TS</a>]