The Incomparable

00:00:04 ◼   ► the incomparable contest number already [TS]

00:00:07 ◼   ► made 2011 [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► we are back on the incomparable podcast [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► and it is once again time I know that [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► you're gonna find this hard to believe [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► but it is once again time for the comic [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► book club the comic book club is back [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► its back in session [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► alright art so joining me are my [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► faithful members of the comic book club [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► will we're gonna maybe we'll find a way [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► to add somebody else at some point I [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► don't know but we've got a solid three [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► we went not need anymore [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► Joyce joining me as always jason reitman [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► hello hey and Lisa Schmeisser i'm [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► already plenty initiation rites for the [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► new remember oh yeah yeah we're going to [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► have to make him read everything we've [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► already read something horribly thats [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► good know how to read the entire run of [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► micronauts to satisfy me how bad I just [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► for punishment [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► wow that was probably the club the [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► fastest mentioned in the microphones in [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► any of if you have one minute and the [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► over-under you if you if you chose one [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► minute you win the lottery and the [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► drinking game [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► yes that's right i had to I had to get [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► in there what better recognize me [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► because micronauts really has nothing to [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► do with planetary um so planetary was [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► the choice that we made like a million [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► years ago to talk about and we're [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► actually going to talk about it [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► especially not it's still feel like we [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► should wait another 10 years just met [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► yeah you can see how long they took [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► planetary to come out with the 26 issues [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► yeah i was shocked to discover that it [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► took them [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► it took them tell you we had 10 years to [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► go 27 issues 26 issues something like [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► that yeah shocking because i read it all [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► i think i read the last date issues [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► today and it's sort of unfair you do get [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► the sense that I I did realize at some [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► point when i started reading it it was [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► clearly set right before the turn of the [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► millennium and then as i'm reading the [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► later issues they're talking about how [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► it's already past and I'm like did I [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► miss that or did this just takes so long [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► to come out which which brings up some [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► interesting continuity issues with the [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► Millennium babies that were characters [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► in a lot of war analysis stuff that kind [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► of glossed over because I actually meant [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► to the Millennium babies because that [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► was a huge component of the Holy that [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► was a huge component of a whole universe [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► when they first started you had Jennie [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► sparks with the authority and Elijah [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► snow and the two of them obviously know [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► each other right and there was a [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► potential and they had the one crossover [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► comic with the two of them but they took [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► that really great idea of of a planetary [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► defense system and just dropped it so so [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► let's back up a second because as [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► somebody who you [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► guys really know this stuff and I have [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► I'm a babe in the woods when it comes to [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► this as with many things I I never I [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► never I think I've heard of this but i [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► knew nothing about it so it's it's a [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► wild storm in print book right which is [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► DC basically but it's a specific like [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► what do you see misty significant yeah [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► while slamming mr. me and wild storm was [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► Jim Lee's studio that was part of Image [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► Comics huh and everything started that [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► way at some point many years ago DC [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► bought wildstorm so they left just moved [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► over to DC they were their own universe [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► a year or two ago then DC folded the [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► universe into the DC Universe and just [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► last year they I or maybe was earlier [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► this year they've cancelled all of the [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► wild storm titles [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► ah alright so so started image move to [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► DC its own universe [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► I've read something in this universe [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► before because i read the authority [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► yes which is any sparks and then this [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► has a large snow which is an another one [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► of these Millennium Bridge century [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► babies are essentially baby yeah we [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► could there be rolled on New Year's Day [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► 1982 almost to live a hundred years and [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► I yeah right so yeah which is [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► complicated because you know is the [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► planetary ends up being after the end of [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► the century but Elijah's still ok i [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► thought well he didn't he obviously [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► skated on that one so so 26-27 something [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► like that issues over the course of 10 [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► years we state by warren ellis and John [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► Cassady who I actually first saw his art [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► with Joss Whedon be starting actually [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► yes and that's one of the reasons [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► planetary took so long as he left to go [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► do that Mary started before that and [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► finished it [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► afghan planetary started and then there [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► were 24 issues of astonishing x-men and [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► then they finished the 25 issues of [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► planetary wow so i have to say have [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► being the one who just read this this is [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► this thing you had me read this is one [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► of the craziest things I have ever ever [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► read crazy as comics certainly really it [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► is it is crazy in a good [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► way but it is because it's this I mean [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► how many layers are going on here [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► let's let's let's break it down because [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► otherwise I my head will explode a whole [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► underlying thing here is that we're [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► looking at analogues of other not even [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► superheroes other heroic kind of [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► archetypal let's not even archetypes [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► they're like ver altered versions of [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► heroic famous characters but they're [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► archetypes I mean is there's the [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► superman and wonder woman right we ready [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► right and the reason to send the spoiler [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► horns or something similarly the floor [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► spoiler horn [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► because there's that one mission where [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► they kill Superman and Green Lantern [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► Wonder Woman same issue [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► yeah all right and it's a great she [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► wanted when I realized they're not like [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► they're not actually Superman right by [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► your side just be a benefit from outer [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► space who comes down to earth and make a [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► woman from island to come yes save [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► mankind bracelets so some of them are [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► are are analogues their parallels to [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► existing ones and then you've got some [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► characters a character who is kind of [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► like the shadow but he's also kinda like [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► the green hornet right and there's a [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► ghost writer and all alone the lone [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► ranger is the one that blew in and then [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► there's a where where I'm sitting there [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► was reading the story thinking wow this [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► is pretty wacky he's out in the desert [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► and his body's been dumped but he's not [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► quite dead and the Indian pumps him full [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► of hallucinogens and all of a sudden [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► he's like the biggest rally make silver [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► bullets and put sash around his eyes and [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► he's the ghost Ranger Wow [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► and then what was the other one of the [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► other crazy one main antagonist of the [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► Fantastic Four well thats oh so we [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► always comes back to the Fantastic Four [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► with us so i find it funny that that I [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► assume would be another one of these [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► analogs in me and go there with the are [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► our friends at home listening to this [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► the the way planetary setup is each [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► issue is a self-contained story [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► essentially and that up to still be [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► until the end and all these characters [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► that were talking about these analogs [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► they introduced it's like one issue [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► typically sometimes more but it's sort [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► of there's a complete story line there [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► where the the planetary is a planetary [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► organization planetary agency planetary [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► group with governing body whenever they [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► yeah they are [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► explore archaeologists of the unknown [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► they're weird about discovering the [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► secret history of the planet [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► their job is to curate mysteries [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► basically yeah and so each time they [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► they find this mystery like in the the [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► Hulk story it was this town in New [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► Mexico that was used for bomb [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► experiments and then they find this very [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► deep pit that this person who became the [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► incredible hulk analog the government [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► dug a really big hole and put it in and [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► then it was about how it took him 60 [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► years to starve to death and you know [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► essentially most of these analogs end up [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► dying tragically as if they if Godzilla [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► and logged eyes tear it another terrible [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► way [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► yeah it's sort of if these people really [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► existed what would d write the governing [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► bodies do to them and literary world [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► helbred kill them right away I and then [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► it turns out that the people organizing [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► this or that fantastic for analog which [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► have been sort of retarding the growth [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► of humanity for the last 60 years or so [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► in like taking all these extraordinary [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► things that could be gifts to mankind [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► and either burying them killing them [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► hiding them [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► yeah i think it's interesting because [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► they introduced the Fantastic Four [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► analog and I kind of expect again that [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► will be a one-shot deal and I and I say [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► oh I see what they're doing and there's [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► a4 and there's the scientist and his [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► girlfriend and a rough-and-tumble test [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► pilot and the kid brother and they go [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► and then they they come back and and [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► they've got you know some recognizable [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► powers that's like clearly the Fantastic [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► Four and look and they're they're [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► horrible and they're not just horrible [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► they become again we've already fired [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► the spoiler horn here they are the [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► villain of the of the story arc of this [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► 25 issue limited series there the super [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► super bad guys and which I thought was [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► kind of brilliant because the whole rest [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► of the run i'm sitting there kind of [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► laughing as i read thinking oh the [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► Fantastic Four very very bad people [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► because there's also the identity [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► mystery that starts off for Elijah snow [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► is just trying to figure out why he's [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► lost so much of his memory and who is he [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► what is what is he doing what is this [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► connection and said it was the fourth [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► man [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► yes the planetary is made up of three [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► right three individuals and then the [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► fourth man is the mysterious benefactor [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► who runs the planetary organization and [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► then you find out a lot of snow is the [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► fourth man and it was actually just like [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► this on memory yeah and the question is [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► who's the real fourth man and that's [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► when they have the the very last issue [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► which is sort of here and now the gang [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► is back together right and i have to [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► admit i love this series III love this [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► series as a whole but the last issue is [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► kind of problematic for me because it [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► feels a little bit too like the rear is [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► well it's like it's like a reunion just [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► like a seasoned it's like a cedar sonali [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► we're all shocked is getting married and [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► we brought back this guy from his [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► international totally how it felt to me [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► is it's the coda where we get to see [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► everybody and everybody gets a kind of [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► an ending and [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► and an ACN being a huge fan of time [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► travel all that meta discussion about [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► that was so the world could collapse in [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► time machine was built in and going into [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► kind of the pseudoscience of that is [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► awesome so create a speaking of crazy [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► one of the things that I thought was [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► really crazy as this idea that that is [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► based on some if not scientific facts [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► and some valid scientific theory which [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► is that they're you know it's a [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► snowflake in a several thousand [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► dimensional universe and that we're [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► actually not in a three-dimensional [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► universe but our holographic projection [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► on a two-dimensional universe i just [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► read a book which I mentioned on the [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► previous podcast by brian greene that's [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► about parallel universes that talks in [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► detail about this idea the holographic [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► theory that that three dimensions are [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► actually just an effect of a [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► two-dimensional surface and that's in [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► planetary throughout they keep talking [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► about the two-dimensional information [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► set and there are a bunch of a stack of [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► universes and it's pretty you can read [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► it as just being sort of like ridiculous [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► comic mumbo-jumbo except is actually [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► isn't and it's kind of fascinating on [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► the idea that the drummer kinda can tap [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► into the information source and that [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► they're all sort of the reason there are [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► the the century babies is because [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► they're kind of generated out of the [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► information playing in order to protect [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► things and be error correction and it's [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► it's it's crazy but it's not just like [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► ridiculous flight of fancy it there's [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► something to it it was that's the two [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► points with that the first is it a lot [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► of great writers are able to do that [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► sort of thing like the warren ellis alan [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► moore back to the original comic writers [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► in the sixties he doesn't like [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► Frankenstein Mary Shelley trans person [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► because the Invisibles has a lot of that [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► to where there's the extra dimensional [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► black brother extra their extra [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► dimensional worlds that are basically [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► pure information and a lot of what goes [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► on to the Invisibles comes down to who's [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► trying to control the information and [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► alter reality as we understand it and [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► the last issue of that series pretty [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► much ends with them having effectively [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► hacked reality change the whole world [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► perceptions and then the last the last [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► page is one of the characters holding [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► his hand and saying oh where we go what [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► we do and so when I was reading through [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► planetary over 10 years i would add [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► uh-huh I thought they were actually kind [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► of a lot of parallels to the Invisibles [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► in the sense that there are structures [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► within structures things that you can [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► perceive things outside your perception [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► and what happens this was something [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► outside your perception ships into your [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► perception it's dealing with the reality [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► Fallout and the i was reading some meta [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► stuff into it as well we're talking [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► about the the two dimensional planes 3d [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► people standing on them i was thinking [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► the two dimensional planes were the page [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► that i was looking at them on and that [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► information stack is the stack of papers [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► making up this comic book i'm reading [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► now and that they were sort of at some [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► level talking about where characters in [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► this book the same way grant narrow [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► Morrison always talks about characters [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► in a narrative and what makes it more [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► exciting is what you bring to it is i'm [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► excited about your idea because there's [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► what you bring to it as a reader to as [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► you're reading it you're also thinking [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► about different comics you've read and [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► have it all ties in so you're bringing [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► even more dimensions of information as [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► well and when I have to reach that level [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► there is not level to where they talk [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► about the though the realm of fiction [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► which is actually a little bit similar [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► to the the unwritten we talked about in [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► our first comic book club where there's [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► a realm of fiction and there's somebody [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► who comes out of it and they go back [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► into it there's like a universe that's [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► created and and they they tie that in at [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► the end and they say well you know if [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► you've got this kind of two-dimensional [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► Arizona of information from which [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► everything is all the universes are [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► generated then you're not just it's not [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► some necessarily fantastical land of [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► fiction it could you know writers create [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► a universe it could be a real universe [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► that created that it is reality it's not [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► just a flight of fancy [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► it's real which is which ties into that [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► which is a like I said crazy but it's [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► it's really cool [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► um time-travel you mentioned and that [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► was another on my list of things that I [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► i just took my head was like wow there's [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► so much here is so dense that you you [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► you mentioned it in in the finale [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► basically there's this whole idea about [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► you can create a time machine but when [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► you create a time machine [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► you can't travel further back than the [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► creation of the time machine which is an [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► idea i don't know if you guys have seen [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► the movie primer yep which is a [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► low-budget brilliant crazy also crazy [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► low-budget sci-fi movie about these [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► these guys in a office [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► parking rocks austin texas who build a [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► time machine invented a time machine and [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► it's a it's a you can watch it like 10 [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► times and still not know what's going on [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► because they keep on going back over [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► each others time lines but I that I [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► thought about that because it's a [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► similar kind of premise but what they [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► take it to is the next level and say [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► right now it's all possibilities but [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► once you create a time machine it [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► flattens all the possibilities and just [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► creates a single true reality because [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► they can all travel back and and they [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► all will travel back to the earliest [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► point they can and you know there's no [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► real resolution to that other than maybe [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► that's not the way it works and Elijah [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► snow doesn't care he's gonna we're gonna [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► do the time-traveling anyway and then [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► suddenly analogues of themselves [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► dozens of analogs of themselves from the [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► future appear to watch them as soon as [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► he presses the button which is you know [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► a great scene again i'm not quite sure [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► whether I parsed how much sense it makes [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► or not but it's sort of chilling to [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► watch it in a way that the way they are [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► laid out very very artfully about how [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► they do the time sequence where you see [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► them appear which I was impressed [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► throughout i think that the the way that [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► it's the way that it's drawn in the way [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► the sequence of the panel's even our are [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► so cinematic and that there's lightning [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► is really i mean sometimes there's a [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► page in one of the latter issues which i [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► thought you know this is just brilliant [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► timing it's four panels and the dialogue [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► is on the third panel and it's entirely [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► built so that you have that pause where [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► where [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► pause for the joke and then the joke [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► it's or the punchline um kind of amazing [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► but the time travel was the one that [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► really impressed me there and I read [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► that seen similar to when we did the [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► first nuclear bomb tests and there was a [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► very real possibility that there be a [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► chain reaction and it would ignite the [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► atmosphere and all life on earth would [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► end and you know they thought it was [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► worth the risk and Elijah snow knowing [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► that during the time machine [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► there's a very real possibility flattens [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► all of reality and the universe [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► attention implodes and everything is [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► over the minute you turn on the time [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► machine but it was worth the risk to [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► save the third yeah and he was like I [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► don't care [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► push the button and it turns out they [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► were wrong [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► to yeah right right he would take the [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► risk and that was just great i mean it [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► is feel like a series finale but I a and [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► it's weird because the main arc is over [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► but at the same time I kinda like the [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► the whole idea of its a guy who can [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► control physics and so he stops time and [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► he creates a little bubble bubble where [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► time doesn't move but how do you get him [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► out of it if you can't go into it [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► because there's no time inside the [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► bubble and so it was like well now that [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► we've had the end of our series and [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► we've reached this exalted position [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► what do we do there and rather than take [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► that you know for another 20 issues over [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► the next 50 years they decide well [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► here's an example of the kind of stuff [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► that is in the life of planetary now [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► that they've defeated the four is [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► they're gonna do stuff crazy stuff like [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► this and you can kind of only imagine [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► what other crazy stuff they do when you [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► the one not one but one of the redeeming [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► graces of the last issue tues at one [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► level planetary is also about Elijah [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► snow emotional journey right because [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► either he deliberately regress tour [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► there was something kind of broken him [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► when he did agree to be mindwiped by the [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► four and over the course of the series [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► you find out the things that drove the [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► young man the heartbreak he endured with [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► to keep his mom and by the end of it [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► he's the kind of guy who's like I have [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► no problem like the University it means [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► saving a friend and that's something [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► that Elijah snow would probably not have [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► done it earlier points in the in this in [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► the story but over the course of 26 [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► issues you see how he begins to put in [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► heavy emotional lifting and work on on [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► how i feel about these people that I'm [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► working with and and what kind of steak [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► do I haven't been in their happiness in [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► mind and they comment on that [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► like that whole last issue all of his [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► friends are actually the last couple [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► issues friends are like all right he's [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► changed so much but they were kind of [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► afraid right him and what he's seen so [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► much the mind wipe and he says no no you [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► know i have changed but that's not why [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► yeah right yeah and it's actually one of [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► the one of the characteristics about [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► wildstorm I always felt is that it's not [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► a warm and mushy type of universe is not [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► overly emotional or filled with a lot of [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► sincerity it's it's characterized by [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► kind of a reflexive irony and grim sense [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► of purpose and that can be a lot of fun [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► to read for example when they had storm [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► watches a series of the the [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► a dialog and the the crazy ambitions [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► people had were two of the feelings with [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► the characters about storm watches the [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► storm watches with Christian Sabbath or [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► authority right and then an authority [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► you have one of the things that was [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► driving that was the rock-hard [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► conviction all the characters that hey [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► we're superheroes we we can clean up the [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► world and no one's going to stop us so [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► let's do it which is actually one of the [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► reasons why i wasn't disappointed at one [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► point at which planetary ends yeah [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► because you could do it another series [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► about what happens when they read reach [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► that exalted position if they did it and [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► it's the authority that's what that's [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► about [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► yeah right one is also that in this case [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► the ones who had reached an exalted [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► position where the four right and [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► initially it was in right because they [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► make this deal in the morning race to [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► that will return our planets growth rate [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► lock twist and we'll set you guys up and [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► we'll set it up for easy invasion and oh [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► by the way let's without another planets [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► population to store our weapons right [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► like that's one of the most indelible [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► panels of the series for me is when [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► they're standing and they realize that [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► they're just standing in a sea of bones [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► because the four had such contempt for [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► life of any form they couldn't even be [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► bothered to clean up their mess they [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► just left it right there and right but [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► in a way because one else created the [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► authority as well yes and you know in [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► some ways I think planetary was a almost [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► an admission that if the authority [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► existed like the four ya another group [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► would have to take them now like that [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► you can't be allowed to continue [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► there's a planetary authority crossover [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► just there is one option yep and you see [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► that the authority has turned into just [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► this horrible collection of cyborgs and [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► Lynn reptilian figures that goes from [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► universe to universe destroying the [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► planetary organization everywhere it [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► goes huh [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► and so in planetary finally shuts them [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► down so it does play out that tension [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► between unchecked power versus idealism [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► but you know looking back round the [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► original point actually think I'm [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► planetary is one of the most humane [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► books when you think about it in the [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► wild storm universe because again you've [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► got people who are doing things added a [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► genuine sense of compassion and [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► curiosity and wonder as opposed to I can [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► shoot fire from my fingertips [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► how can I use this against genocidal [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► dictators right there is that the the [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► whole idea of an archaeologist and there [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► is a detachment and the [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► sort of observation of of that all that [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► kind of cynicism and we've you know we [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► found this woman who came to save [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► mankind so we kill her [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► yeah like they the book and get that [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► across but not lose any of that hope [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► your idealism because the characters who [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► are sort of discovering this are doing [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► it from the outside [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► Yeah right there their job is to me the [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► story arc is a hole right you start [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► their job is done on earth the the [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► evidence of what happened and observe it [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► right and and the story arc really comes [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► from the fact that by collecting all of [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► that information their route something [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► is revealed that they can't not take [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► action so so you know in the end they [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► can't be just observers of this stuff [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► but that's sort of the initial thing is [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► that you know they're not they're not [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► really rendering judgment they are just [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► discovering what happened and then [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► putting into their planetary guides [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► right right we should then accumulates [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► to the point where it becomes quite [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► clear that something is going on that [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► they need to do something about it and [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► that kicks off the ark it's quite clever [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► because you you think what you're seeing [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► is almost an anthology series and then [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► it turns out that it's actually you've [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► actually been seeing huge just seeds of [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► story arc that will then largely get [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► paid off right i mean it [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► most of that stuff does get paid off its [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► not just sort of there for fun generally [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► you get toward the end of an issue and [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► you realize oh that's why the story is [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► important instead of just being like [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► well that was interesting as an huh well [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► with the spaceship is my favorite where [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► they send the thing character away [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► well and not just that you've got the [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► guy who agrees to basically give up his [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► humanity in his life to write to steer [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► the ship as well and even when they do [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► do that the issue where they said that [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► thing away they have the recording [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► angels who are going to go to their [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► deaths and all the all the expresses [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► gratitude for the opportunity to be able [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► to record the experiences they go and [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► there's all these little humbling [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► moments that are just scattered to the [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► whole series where the there's kind of a [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► sense of joy of discovery throughout it [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► where we have all these people who were [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► like yes they're all this is not the [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► life I would've chosen but think about [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► what I'm going to get out of what I'm [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► doing now and it's incredibly optimistic [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► it is [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► yeah you know for those [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► I I imagine they're probably some people [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► listening I would cut quite who haven't [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► read it yet and that's okay because I [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► mean hey the good guys one of the end [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► big shock but home but how they do it is [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► it really is about the journey what I'd [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► say is that this is this book really [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► hits the sweet spot if you're somebody [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► who likes superhero comics and likes the [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► kind of sci-fi website my comics or [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► other side kind of sci-fi stuff which i [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► always i was loved to and for me this is [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► this great combination of that because [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► they are these crazy science fictional [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► concepts throughout and yet it's also [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► all about iconic heroes not just [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► superheroes but you know like The Lone [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► Ranger and things like that too and [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► Tarzan and you put it all together in a [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► in a blender and it's you know it's a [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► great combination to get both of those [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► things I think it would appeal to people [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► who like some of those sort of mysteries [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► like x-files or lost because there is [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► that that that discovery aspect in that [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► on yelling kind of always think this is [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► almost the x-files done right where [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► you've got the you've got the soft [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► contains stories but there's a myth in [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► an origin story that artists throughout [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► and there's an actual satisfying pay off [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► as opposed to and now we ended in a cave [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► yeah right lost its like lost in the [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► sense that that all the TV shows that [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► try to replicate lost made a mistake of [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► having crazy sci-fi art stuff happened [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► in the first episode we at with lots of [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► time discontinuities and stuff like that [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► and if you look at the first season of [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► lost what got people hooked on lost is [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► that it was slow there were very few [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► genre things introduced at all and it [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► was all about characters and telling [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► stories and then they would continually [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► Ratchet it up and you know and they lost [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► some people and other people in the [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► audience stayed fair you know there's a [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► whole argument to be made about lost in [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► a different podcast but that's what [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► struck me about planetary I now that you [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► mention it is it it takes its time like [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► that and whatnot you don't you don't say [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► this is going to be a complicated story [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► arc about this group and this group [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► battling each other over the fate of the [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► planet instead you say hey there's this [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► group who learned these interesting [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► stories we're going to tell those [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► stories and then as you see the stories [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► it starts to come together and you [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► realize there is something bigger that [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► you know that sort of stealth approach [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► if you did the story you're reading is [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► not a story you think you're reading so [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► much more effective and you know I go [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► back to the lost knock [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► I swear they didn't get it that you know [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► go jumping to the end doesn't make you [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► get to satisfaction faster it destroys [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► all the satisfaction because you you [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► know you don't have that moment of [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► discovery because I freely admit as a [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► reader reading the back third planetary [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► was really really exciting I mean I got [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► into a pretty much when it started and [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► 1600 it's fun to read whatever but when [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► i would say in the last six or seven [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► issues for coming out i was i would [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► practically skip home from the comic [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► book store because I was just so excited [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► to see what the payoffs would be those [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► last six issues came out over the course [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► of seven years [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► yes it was but it was the race between [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► that and rising star is honestly to see [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► which one would address so i was so [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► bitter about that but it was the if [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► reading through that series is so [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► satisfying especially if you did sink in [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► again ten years by the time you're at [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► the end of it you're like oh my gosh [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► they think they've pulled this reference [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► out they've tried this back in and you [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► see all these pieces fall into place and [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► i'm not sure how much of that is a side [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► effect of well they've had this leisure [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► of time and space to wrap things up and [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► really thinking through and how much of [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► it they had planned out and then [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► surprise other projects got in the way [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► but either way it makes for really [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► gratifying experiences a reader it [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► didn't I would think of all the comics [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► I've read and then when you are asked [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► that desert island question if you have [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► one series you know for the rest of your [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► life this is the only comic you're ever [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► going to read I think planetary would be [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► wow it to meet has certainly a lot there [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► right a lot they're entering the the [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► tone was just so pitch perfect and [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► you're talking about it earlier with [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► like the art and the pacing in this [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► cinematic miss of the whole thing it's [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► just pitch perfect tone and it's so [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► beautiful to look at I mean Cassidy's [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► art is just sublime that he's great i [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► recommend buying it in the the two [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► absolute collection CM because then you [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► have the large oversized start it's just [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► gorgeous and the good news is when you [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► order those they come and they don't [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► wait 10 years right [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► that's seriously from for those who who [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► didn't see it all the way through [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► now you can just watch it I mean that [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► that is the advantage of of waiting the [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► disadvantages that you don't get to see [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► a while it's happening because you can [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► get it all wrapped up [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► that was my philosophy my stock much [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► battlestar galactica was I wanted to [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► make sure the whole series wrapped up [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► and people are satisfied with it before [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► it started [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► did wrap-up and some people were [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► satisfied and some people some people [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► well I say that about loss to write lost [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► wrapped up in a lot of people were [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► dissatisfied I thought it was both of [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► those series I thought the last season [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► was a disappointment and at the end i [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► thought you know i wasn't as down on the [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► end I I guess I must be forgiving of [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► series finales because you know it's [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► tough to do a big finish and I didn't [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► think they completely either of them [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► completely blue and I thought the state [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► i thought that the last episodes of both [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► of those shows were were maybe good unto [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► themselves but perhaps failed in living [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► up to the series that came before so [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► that as an episode was like oh I see [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► it's not a bad way to end it but you [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► know then I'll look back on all the [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► stuff that they had set up and and and [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► then you kind of get disappointed by it [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► bindings are really really hard they're [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► really hard because witnesses talking [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► about the very last issue of planetary [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► right but to me although it's the [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► next-to-last issue that sort of the [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► climax right here in the last issue is [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► cool that the the next-to-last issue [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► I you know the kind of wrap up the whole [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► story arc in 33 pages right that's where [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► there's a he snaps his fingers dropped [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► the body and write that I don't know [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► what the the last two members of the [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► four were dispatched a little too easily [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► considering how built up it was for so [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► long I felt an unbeatable enemy right [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► that but he has a plan exactly which is [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► it is interesting thing about the [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► character the entire time allows us know [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► once he figures out who he is that he is [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► the guy with the plan [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► yeah I'm and things through the angles [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► and and at the end is willing to take [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► risks but it did seem those last three [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► pages of the the second-to-last issue [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► kind of was oh they need to wrap this up [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► because they're ready to end the series [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► right and kind of abrupt it was abrupt [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► the that's why i was happy that they had [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► the last issue because the last issue [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► actually redeemed a lot of it because I [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► got to see sort of the aftermath and if [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► it had just ended with that you know [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► that the final resolution it would have [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► been actually a real downer because it's [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► been like really that's it and now [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► you're done that's the whole that's how [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► you tell the story right because it [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► doesn't generally resolve Elijah's arc [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► right i mean you need to see his [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► emotional resolutions hit in the last [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► issue and to me that's the last issue i [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► liked so much more than this [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► second-to-last way which is a nice trick [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► right they so they didn't quite stick [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► the ending but it wasn't the ending they [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► got to do a little bit more as like Lord [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► of the Rings there are several and like [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► your adventure with the endings you're [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► not quite that bad right [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► I don't know because it made sense there [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► without it there was the plot ending in [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► a second to last issue where they [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► dispatch the bad guys and then the sort [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► of more emotional character arc ending [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► of the last issue right if you view the [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► next-to-last issue from the character [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► perspective that's about the other two [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► members of planetary coming to accept [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► that Elijah is gonna do what he's gonna [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► do when they need to trust him [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► yeah that's that's the the character [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► thing that happens in that episode is [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► like we're gonna I you know we're going [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► to invest our trust in this guy and it [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► pays off [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► you know but plot-wise yeah it was it's [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► always the danger that women biggest [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► danger on on TV shows to you know with [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► this happened are you a lot you create [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► this huge villain you know dr. Buffy [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► means having lots of TV shows huge big [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► bad you build them up and then you got [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► to resolve it and unless you will have [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► an incredibly ambitious you know [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► multi-part TV episode or issue or [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► whatever you know teardown takedown of [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► that big bad if you're doing it you know [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► in in the rear regular format it's going [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► to be yeah 56 pages of the takedown the [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► and you're always almost always left [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► with wondering how big and bad were they [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► if that's what this is it what you want [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► and you get this like on the what's [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► widely considered one of the best [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► episodes of Doctor Who that Castro lava [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► which dispatch the fifth doctor [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► oh no caves of Androzani case of a yes [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► thank you yeah managers on everybody [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► dies right well I think that's something [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► like if you that it's not about taking [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► down the bad guy or how fast or how hard [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► it's what were the consequences if you [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► brought up the bad guy there has to be [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► consequences there has to be sacrifices [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► and actually really thats they're doing [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► this in fables though where they have [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► the war and they dispatched the the big [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► bad Emperor the the enemy and Bill [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► Willingham has been basically playing [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► out what happens afterward where people [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► are like okay the photo was conquered [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► oak rap what we do now [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► recommendation building is really hard [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► yeah and and if you had a sense of [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► purpose where my sense of purpose is to [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► vanquish this evil force and all of a [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► sudden the force is gone and there's [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► still these things that are broken in [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► your life you have nothing to blame that [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► those problems on anymore so what do you [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► do and you know i'm i'm i'm delighted by [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► what they're doing with fables right now [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► and in that sense where against the [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► nation building there's always different [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► factions that are not either coalescing [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► are splitting apart as people try to [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► regain their moral footing and try to [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► reconfigure their futures and I wish [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► more comic books would do that or or [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► more or more series in general because [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► as you said so many times it's we have [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► this this force that we have two more [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► this person we have to vanquish that we [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► have triumphed and smash cut fade to [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► black as opposed to tonight we have [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► triumphed and then along comes an [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► insurance adjuster who's like okay and [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► who's gonna clean all this up [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► well actually one of the things I liked [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► about Babylon 5 which I watched [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► religiously was they had a couple of [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► story resolutions in the middle [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► basically the end of the third year they [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► resolve this entire story arc with the [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► earth government being you know turning [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► into a kind of a dictatorship and what [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► was interesting about that is that they [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► that allowed them to play out what the [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► aftermath of that was and then I think [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► more or less by accident they ended up [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► rushing their story resolution and their [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► fourth year because they were afraid [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► they were gonna be cancelled and they [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► got a fifth-year was a great season but [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► it was still kind of fascinating in the [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► sense that it was about what happens [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► when the battles that you spent the last [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► years fighting are over and it's what [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► you're left with is a mess and you're [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► the ones who have inherited it how do [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► you put it back together and they didn't [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► you know the execution of that wasn't so [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► great but the execution of the aftermath [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► of the the Civil War episodes they did [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► actually pretty pretty cool and I like [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► that approach of saying you know when [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► the when when the big bad is defeated [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► it's not the end it's the beginning and [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► the some of the best drama isn't how you [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► cope with the aftermath and so this and [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► like he always did that to where they [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► would usually have the big bad defeated [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► in the penultimate episode of the season [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► and in the last episode was you know [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► rather than doing a season-ending [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► cliffhanger they did that sometimes but [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► they also did it where the last episode [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► was the fallout it was it was a [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► the characters like planetary and not [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► really about the the story arc which I [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► already was going to point out in [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► planetary they don't just barely do that [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► as well then because they the last issue [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► doesn't deal with the aftermath of what [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► is community do now they're not being [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► repressed anymore [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► it deals more with the individual [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► characters and right [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► however they change right but like I [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► said I'm sorry for land i sort of feel [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► like those themes were so we're so done [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► in the authority that it's almost like [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► they were saying well you know we're not [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► gonna talk about that here that would be [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► at that's a whole other that's a whole [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► other series also don't think we don't [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► have a really strong narrative tradition [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► in in serial drama of any type that deal [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► look deals with the aftermath I mean [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► most of the strength of narrow of serial [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► drama tends to be here is a situation [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► here is an antagonist here is how we [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► build our case and here's how we will [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► ultimately prevail and the series ends [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► but you never have one that starts off [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► with well we've got a mess we we no [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► longer have a common enemy so how are we [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► supposed to bond with each other [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► there was a peter david has a comic [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► writer Ellie Alex other things [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► xfactor i love his ex factor yeah he [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► will he wrote a series of Star Trek [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► novels called the new frontier and was [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► like a whole different crew and stuff [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► and with the interesting thing was the [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► main character the captain was from this [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► planet or something and he his people [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► were slaves or something and he'd led a [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► rebellion on the planet when he was like [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► 20 21 and became the whole leader of [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► this rebellion that overthrew this [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► entire empire that had been there [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► forever and you follow that up and then [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► the the joint Starfleet poorly he he [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► tried anything because essentially like [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► his life had peaked at ya 21 and now he [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► was in his forties and you know he [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► wasn't part of the government he wasn't [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► that wasn't his thing and I those [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► aspects of the character were so [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► interesting to me because it was sort of [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► what do you do after yeah you've you've [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► done this [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► yeah how do you top it where you go on [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► with your life and and the thing that [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► you succeeded at is done and they don't [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► need that anymore [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► yeah i think it's now president [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► president mean George Washington [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► thumbs-up good job is generally the guy [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► who leads the revolution is probably not [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► who you want as your leader after a [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► razor revolution right [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► what he's good at it yeah they're good [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► at the the you know organizing the [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► factions and and for overthrowing the [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► bad guys not necessarily governing I'd [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► love to see a series about someone who's [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► trying to figure out what the heck [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► they're doing now that the revolutions [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► over or now that they vanquished um I'd [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► read The Hunger Games that the Y a [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► trilogy while i was on maternity leave [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► and then I went and read other people's [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► reactions to that book and a lot of [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► people really hated the ending of the [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► third book which makes total sense from [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► a purely logical and practical [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► perspective I feel like we should do the [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► spoiler horn for this too I can hear the [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► spoiler horn now [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► she lives but she basically has put out [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► to pasture by the government because [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► she's no longer politically useful and [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► she goes back to her village needs a [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► very quiet life and people are [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► complaining all my god and i thought no [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► this makes perfect sense you have a [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► highly unstable 17 year old killer [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► you're not gonna make her the minister [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► of culture [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► I mean you're basically going to make [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► sure that she can't embarrass you and [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► and be sure to wish you don't [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► necessarily want to be in that position [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► anywhere she really messed up and we can [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► just go home but it's it's winston [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► churchill like this happens in the real [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► world in a minute world war two was over [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► they got rid of him [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► oh yeah they came back later but it was [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► pretty disasters i said you know I [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► vaguely remember i read a book of [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► British history also maternity leave but [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► that's just a big Pink's there to arrive [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► blur everything which people in it [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► that's how we know something about a [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► blitz no apparently yeah but maybe that [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► is a strength of this series is that [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► they really don't show you that the [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► cleanup effort is at words it's it's [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► just it's one man's emotional journey [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► from point A to point B he creates the [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► surrogate family and oh by the way they [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► happen to overflow the sinister cabal [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► that's been 40 humanity's progress 119 [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► immortal super-powered man's emotional [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► hey I guess what's gonna happen to him [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► now it is the 21st century so is he just [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► going to keep on going [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► evidently he see dual century to century [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► guy while he's he's supposed to be the [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► ghost of the 20th century which I always [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► felt was like a nice cheat where they [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► could say he lives on me because he's [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► the ghost of the 2000s watching guy [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► yeah because back in my day that's right [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► ballparks dies and she the jet engine [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► stops dead and turn of the century yet [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► another shitty quantum and they had a [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► plotline think authority where they went [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► back and they got to meet Jimmy fire and [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► Jenny steam engine ecole power and data [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► not Jenny coal power which any fire was [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► a cro-magnon which I thought was just [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► delightful [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► Jenny Jenny paddlewheel they believe [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► that they may have actually had [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► something like that the idea was that [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► all of that the cognitive and [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► technological leaps that shape [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► civilization there was there was a [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► general like figured that helped put all [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► the pieces together the concept behind [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► that the planet is a sort of living [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► organisms that creates the creatures on [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► it in a way and that the planetary [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► defense system is these century babies [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► yeah it creates its own immune system [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► effectively [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► and that was only that's actually [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► another thing about planetary and [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► authority the rest of the hell these [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► beautiful throwing ideas out there they [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► just kind of casually mentioned where [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► you could spin entire series right more [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► analysis like an idea factory in these [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► amazing [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► yeah so any other last words about [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► planetary before we move on I will never [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► ever get the image of those children's [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► heads blowing up out of my mind [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► oh that's such a crazy again cinematic [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► to right where the row of children [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► working at the computers and they all [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► got these kind of the controllers around [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► their necks and they press day they have [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► a fight and try to keep the guy from [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► pressing the red button and press the [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► red button and they but basically blow [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► up all the kids heads except the one kid [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► who is close enough that they can pull [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► it off yeah where his head but yea [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► horrifying and i will never forget it i [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► think it's interesting that we've been [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► talking about the whole series we didn't [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► talk about the fact that the three main [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► characters have powers are we briefly [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► mentioned but it's almost like a side [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► thing the fact that Elijah snow can [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► makes free stuff [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► yeah I would never think of him as like [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► an analog to the Iceman or something [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► like that is just add whatever that's [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► not his [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► what's the functional house is that he's [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► got power and that he's old and knows [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► stuff right right name it was yeah like [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► you said the function personally the [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► same way where chiquita Wagner may have [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► superhuman strength and and on your [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► invulnerability to pain but a real power [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► is the fact that she's just relentlessly [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► fearless and and for the drummer who I [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► just stuff is really opaque yeah he was [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► a hard character to get a grasp on for [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► me [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► well he in some ways he's the exposition [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► character yeah he he knows stuff when [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► they needed to know stuff and you can [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► explain stuff when he needs he was comic [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► relief because there's that all you kids [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► today [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► yeah fast but like I said I felt like he [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► was the hardest one to get a grasp on [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► but still the same time it wasn't the [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► fact that the man is basically living [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► breathing computer it's it's that you [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► know he can actually translate what he [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► knows to to language that people can [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► understand i like when they treat the [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► powers its just oh he's left-handed he [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► can shoot fire from the fingertips right [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► now it's gonna be gifted graphic artist [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► and he has laser vision as often happens [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► in so I'm what else are you guys reading [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► these days haha [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► well it turns out there's not a lot of [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► good things out there really so it's not [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► just me then [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► no I did just finish literally this [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► morning the y the last man [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► oh you finally finish that I finally we [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► should do a whole which is doing all the [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► Oddcast about what about what about that [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► last issue and i was so disappointing [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► for me it that stuck with me for days [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► but probably not for the intended reason [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► alright so we'll say that yeah I think [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► maybe that could be our next topic in [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► fact yeah I would love to go back and [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► read those again because I those a [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► couple years ago [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► why is not a recent series didn't know [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► it's not know but that's ok i actually [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► think they're there they're ongoing and [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► their their stories that are kind of [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► playing out and there are things that [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► are out there and some ways i would [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► think for the great incomparable [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► listenership as well that you go out and [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► get and read write instead of trying to [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► find back issues and future things and [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► wait around for six months or 10 years [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► for it to finish you can just go out and [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► buy the book and read it [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► there's something to be said for that [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► and y the last man is what 50 issues yes [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► and and has a resolution whether it's [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► satisfying or not it has an ending and [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► that's the end of the story i really [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► loved that book but yeah the ending and [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► eggs are hard right things are really [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► having a hard [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► yeah and it's did you did you did you [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► read ex machina forex market everything [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► I I haven't finished it I haven't [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► finished it either [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► ok cuz they should do that too yes I'd [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► really interesting never shies away from [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► the ending and I've heard that the [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► ending had really mixed reactions and so [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► I'm dying to take when it comes out and [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► train i'm gonna grab it right and that's [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► another bryan cave on buck right [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► y the last man right the super mayor yep [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► yeah the Delta hint at the ending in the [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► beginning they do like basically that's [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► it supposed to be forced foreshadowed is [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► a tragedy and right I've been driving [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► myself kind of crazy because I'm right [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► now at the part with the the crazy Pope [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► conspiracy around not there yet only [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► read the first not really giving away a [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► whole lot of crazy Pope conspiracy [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► what else is new another crazy Pope [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► conspiracy and of ongoing series is I [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► picked up the new moon night number one [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► sonu night series which made a great [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► character from the 7d lovely little sick [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► of it [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► yeah I'm like at night and an [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► interesting in a superhero archetype [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► that he's kind [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► the Batman character but also has [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► multiple personalities just like Batman [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► except even crazier than he had the [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► mercenary guy the mark Specter the Jake [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► Lockley who drove a cab and the rich guy [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► Langley or something was his name [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► so he's had a lot of a series and [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► cancellations in series at one point he [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► was in moon knight armor and you know [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► crazy stuff so Brian Michael Bendis has [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► a new series out with that artist he did [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► careful with his name is escaping me [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► right now but the whole idea is they've [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► taken multiple personality and they've [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► gone further with it so now he's got a [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► spider man living in his head and a [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► Wolverine living in his head and a [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► captain america living in his head [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► huh and he can mimic all of their [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► abilities who as well as other [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► personalities and then they've hinted [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► there may be more and so that aspect is [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► really interesting social economy [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► picking up in the artwork is beautiful [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► but the first issue I what's the word [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► not good bad only because it's it's sort [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► of like the opening paragraph of a book [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► like it's not a complete story it's not [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► like planetary did so well at having [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► complete satisfying story / issue you [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► have been just basically write some [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► groups of four issues right so i don't [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► recommend picking it up because yeah [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► although there was some neat hints and [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► stuff but overall nothing happened right [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► no real sense of what the point is just [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► terrible [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► this is why it off by single issues [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► anymore right I know i-i-i try that too [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► I i made a mistake I i started flying [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► single issues on my iPad that's where [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► I'm that's where i'm buying single [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► issues now and i'm reading because there [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► are some day and date comics on the ipad [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► now i'm reading invincible day and date [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► on the ipad and thank you Lisa for for [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► turning me on to that and i'm reading [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► ultimate spider-man Marvel's one of [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► marbles marbles i'lli'll have ultimate [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► Spidey day and date is they decided more [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► they're gonna try it and trying it with [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► a couple of the ultimate titles and [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► ultimate spider-man is one of them so [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► i'm reading those as they come out now [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► and they're there now in this weird [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► death of ultimate death of Spiderman arc [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► which is like they did they how many [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► times they already said they were going [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► to kill him and didn't kill him and this [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► is next they're going to also say they [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► are [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► to kill them and they're not really [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► gonna kill them and when they really [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► gonna kill him [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► I've got of course not you know how [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► could they do that they'll find maybe [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► this time it's real [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► they'll fit about it but actually that [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► this arc has been funny and tying it in [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► with this avengers vs. Ultimates thing [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► thats that's terrible i bought a couple [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► of those issues and those are those are [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► just embarrassingly nonsensical but that [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► part of the arc that I liked recently an [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► ultimate spider-man which i love [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► I mean there and very similar to [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► invincible in some ways is that after [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► all this time of shield being aware of [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► Who Peter Parker is that he spider-man [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► and that he's this kid and they've [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► always had the attitude like this kid is [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► spider-man you know he's too young he's [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► too powerful [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► he's kind of you know not trustworthy [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► loose cannon at some point carol danvers [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► i think is in charge of shield now says [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► says basically we don't trust you [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► anymore [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► you are gonna were either gonna shut you [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► down lock you up or you're gonna take [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► superhero lessons from The Ultimates and [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► so and and they have a vote about like [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► what to do in Captain America's like no [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► no just just just lock him up and and [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► and some of the other like Iron Man [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► really likes him in and tony stark kind [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► of relates to him so that silly them so [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► they said well yeah and so there's no [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► it's it's pretty funny and they send [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► Tony Stark and Iron Man 2 repeaters [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► house and he just iron man appears of [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► peter's house and people like in order [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► here I have a secret identity getting [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► out i'll meet you somewhere go away and [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► Captain America was very reluctant he [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► shows up at one point and and and you [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► know give him a hard time and says how [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► he shouldn't be doing this and you [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► really need to be more responsible and [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► all these things that's a great arc [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► that's actually really enjoyable because [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► it's playing off of this fundamental [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► idea that series that i love which is [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► heated he's a kid he does have these [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► powers [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► he's trying to navigate his complicated [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► kind of kids social life as well as the [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► bigger adult world of the superheroes [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► that stuff is great now this and then [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► yet every issue is got death of [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► Spiderman slapped on it and I just roll [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► my eyes and think you know you're [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► telling good stories do you need to to [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► lay these kind of crazy story arc stunts [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► on top [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► and the storytelling are actually pretty [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► good but they're going to mess it up and [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► it's gonna take me a year to get back to [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► status quo [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► presumably they will mean like the big [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► flood like the big flood was totally [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► changed everything about the ultimate [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► universe except didn't do anything ever [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► had some troubles you got it put jonah [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► Jameson in charge of a website instead [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► of a newspaper [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► they've just got you a job offers yeah [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► since we lost our print analog a while [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► back [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► that's that's right you and you and [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► jenna jameson by the way follow I a [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► healing my favorite twitter twitter [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► twitter twitter yesterday morning always [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► follow jenna jameson on twitter you nod [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► to all of his tweets are in all capital [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► letters and he basically yells at this [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► brand this brand and and they they [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► changed without his avatar to me but I [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► don't like his new avatar like the old [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► leather I love it because that's the [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► Egyptian from the nineteen sixties and [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► spiderman cartoon and when they did that [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► they also did some tweets where he [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► complained about teenagers which is [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► actually all that jonah Jameson does in [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► the original Spiderman animated show is [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► is complaining about you know this brand [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► I'm tired of these teenagers like Parker [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► getting in my way [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► sample sample point is i have just found [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► out what-what a lady gaga is kill it [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► kill it with fire haha there was one [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► after Osama bin Laden was was was killed [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► he tweeted the attention President Obama [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► i can think of another menace that now [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► also needs your attention [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► he's in New York i can tell you where he [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► is nice [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► the only follow of comic characters on [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► Twitter I only follow drunk hulk drunk [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► hulk is good [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► jenna jameson matter all right Jenna [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► James delightful i'm going there now [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► anything Lisa that you're that you're [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► reading my of newer old when i read the [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► second volume of unwritten or the second [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► train i should say haha [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► and that actually continues a lot of the [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► themes where it's the idea that when you [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► remake stories you can remake history [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► because they end up in a bunch of Third [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► Reich propaganda and yeah i'm gonna read [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► that soon because as a hugo voter i will [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► get the hugo packet with all the hugo [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► nominees and becoming you get it and it [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► got nominated for four Hugo word for [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► actually to be a hugo voter all you have [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► to do is become a supporting member of [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► the world con science fiction convention [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► which is in reno this year so i'm [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► actually going but you can also add the [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► last couple years I've been up [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► older you pay sort of half price of the [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► convention fee 22 so you don't have to [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► attend if you don't want to but you can [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► vote so easily by your bed yeah at you [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► you buy you buy a vote and and you get [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► you by voting you get uh the packet and [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► the packet usually contains all of the [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► novel's better nominated all the short [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► stories and all the all the graphics not [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► always all but most of them so i got [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► fables as a PDF last year and I got ya [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► the Batman art by a by Neil Gaiman last [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► year as it turns out i am also reading [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► fables i highly recommend becoming a [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► supporting member and getting the human [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► me so I'll read the unwritten black to i [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► get to vote for the eyes nurs but we [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► don't get free comics shameful ice it's [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► wrong [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► yeah it is absolutely wrong if you're [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► gonna vote on something you need to hold [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► the digital the digital revolution has [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► changed things where you know i'm sure [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► they didn't give out free books before [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► but now that now they can just simply [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► afternoon about ya of a nominated book [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► or a PDF of the nominated comic and so [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► it works pretty well and no unwritten [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► fables and i have a bunch of gail simone [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► books on my Amazon wish list i'll [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► probably go through and clean out soon [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► because I follow her slavishly alright [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► so next up let's talk y the last man try [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► to do that so read that if you haven't [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► and until then and we're going to try to [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► do this every month now we're gonna [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► we're going to set something up so we'll [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► be back sooner than this last gap was or [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► the one before that I thought that gap [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► is appropriate for planetary it was very [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► mad [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► that's it was all intentional folks yeah [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► all intentional in the next one it's [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► just gonna be the women [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► ok i'll be talking to myself the whole [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► hour until then this has been the comic [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► book club for the uncomfortable not the [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► planetarium [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► comfortable I'm Jason snail and thank [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► you to jason reitman thank you very much [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► and too leishman is always a pleasure [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► until the next edition of the [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► uncomfortable and the next [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► soon-to-be-released edition of the comic [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► book club we promise [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► thanks for [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]