00:00:00 ◼ ► the incomparable pod test number 37 may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/0">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► welcome back to the incomparable I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/14">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► Jason smell i'm joined today by Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/16">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► hello Jess and it's so nice to be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/21">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► this podcast with you after so long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/23">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► since i was last on a podcast video also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/25">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► joining me today is Scott McNulty hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/28">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► incomparable book club so John Scalzi is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/42">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► award-winning I believe science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/47">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► writer president of the science-fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/51">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► writers association of america i believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/53">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► it's okay i hope to someday be a member [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/56">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► of the Association working working hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/57">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► that would be that would be good you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/60">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► need to write more science fiction I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/61">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► oh maybe everything from science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/63">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► yes well you can always aspire we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/65">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► all aspire damn i aspire to that to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/69">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► top great he has so he's in the news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/72">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► he's got a new book coming out called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/75">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► buzzy nation fuzzy nasally nation which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/76">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► is a which is a recasting I guess of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/80">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► yeah so that's interesting we'll start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/84">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► we'll start there why not if there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/86">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► book called little fuzzy which is by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/87">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► beam Piper H beam Piper from the sixties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/91">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► and it's a very sort of sixties book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/95">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► where there's a protagonist with a pipe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/98">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► and easie he's healthy discovers he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/100">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► you had me at protagonist of the pipe is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/107">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► a savvy guy and what's funny is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/109">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► believe little fuzzy is in the public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/115">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► domain but here is some sequels that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/118">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► under copyright and scalzi help H beam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/122">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► Piper did so scalzi decided for unto it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/126">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► i think unexplained reasons I think he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/130">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► was just kind of in a funk and so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/131">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► decided to write basically as fanfiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/133">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► a a reboot of of little fuzzy basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/135">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► a modern john scalzi type retelling of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/139">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► the story of that of that book and by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/142">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► the time you get to the end he says that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/145">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► somebody approached the estate of Piper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/150">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► and asked if they could have permission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/154">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► to publish it and they said yes so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► book that was sort of written on a lark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/158">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► is is now the new john scalzi novel i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/160">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► find that kind of a fascinating idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/164">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► interesting you know I think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/169">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► there's so much function you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/172">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► much attention on being original which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/173">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► is which is great i think obviously it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/175">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► always cool to see new stories but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/178">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► the same time we all know as anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/179">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► who's written anything knows when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/181">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► get down to the base of it there are no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/183">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► new stories so I think there's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/184">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► it's always interesting to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/187">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► some of our favorite works i think and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/188">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► wonder how how could that have gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/190">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► differently or you know what what if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/192">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► change this one thing would make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/196">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► story really different or not i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/197">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► think that's a fascinating thing to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/199">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► play around with and I think it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/201">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► that at the root of sort of what makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/202">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► emblematic of a lot of you know sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/206">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► the modern genre of science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/208">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► writers which is a lot of it is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/209">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► a mosh and pastiche in some ways to two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/211">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► things that have gone before because so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/215">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► much of it is so established at two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/216">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► words with a French pronunciation think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/219">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► I can I think I can do this all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/221">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► guess the effects of people that i wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/222">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► i could say with this podcast is over in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/225">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► French but I don't even know what okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/226">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► if you need dick doesn't that mean this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/228">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► place is dead but i'm really speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/231">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► well yeah but as you say also reminds me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/234">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► of them another writer but not as big a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/236">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► fan of charles stross who I think a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/238">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► of his writing a lot of his stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/240">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► borrow or tip their hat two things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/243">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► came before he's got for example series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/247">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► that that plays sort of broadly in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/249">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► Lovecraft you know world and so the it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/252">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► interesting to see them sort of a not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/255">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► necessarily appropriate but but build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/256">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► off of these these older public-domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/258">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► works and create something that's new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/260">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► but also kind of old took and borrowed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/263">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► book from 50 years ago and basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/267">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► science fiction writer do with the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/271">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► story but you know with very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/273">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► kind of expectations for what a modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/276">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► science fiction novelist it's much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/278">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► derstand it's more sort of political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/281">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► stuff happening and and and and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/283">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► interesting although he said he read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/286">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► repeatedly as a kid but when he came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/289">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► time to write it he didn't read it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/291">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► so it and apparently it diverges in many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/293">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► ways from the book because then he read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/297">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► version of it was like oh I have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/300">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► memory of this part so it's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/301">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► it's sort of like his retelling of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/303">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► memory of the book and not the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/305">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► book it's kind of a good idea i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/308">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► is but yeah I mean you could see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/312">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► with I I'm surprised it doesn't happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/313">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► more but you know books are owned by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/317">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► writers and or or if they passed away by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/320">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► their estates and so you don't see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/323">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► you see with movies and TV shows where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/326">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► Corporation owns the rights and use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/327">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► as an asset for them to repurpose in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/331">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► some way and so you see reboots and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/334">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► remakes of movies and TV shows all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/336">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► time but you don't see it with books and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/338">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► it's actually kind of funny it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/340">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► occasion I mean think of all very rare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/343">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► well but you mean you think of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/346">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► states that sort of you know they dub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/347">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► you know Aaron's parents to following [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/349">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► story you know how many people right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/351">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► Robert Ludlum novels your wounds right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/353">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► yeah that's not the same as I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/355">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► imagine a modern sci-fi novelist doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/357">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► dune right i mean Lois McMaster Bujold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/361">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► dune right fuck starting battles for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/364">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► well sure fighting Paul would be miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/369">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► writer now she's capable enough to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/371">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► an interesting characters but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/374">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► imagine something like that where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/375">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► take a modern sci-fi writer and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/377">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► classic that was written so long ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/379">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► that presumably it would be told in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/381">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► very different way now this is which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/383">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► this is a game that we should start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/384">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► that's a good a shots of older science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/386">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► fiction with newer all that I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/388">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► lois mcmaster bujold is doing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/390">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► starship troopers who that's pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/399">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► how about Nick Hardaway's foundation who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/402">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► actually that would be I would probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/410">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► hey right foundation although a classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/415">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► is you know all the Asimov stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/417">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► really you know he's got his he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/419">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► his issues he there things that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/422">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► doesn't do well as human relationships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/424">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► are often kind of bland and he's got big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/425">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► ideas but the people are often kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/428">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► cardboard and you know it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/430">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► fascinating to see somebody who's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/431">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► different skill set take you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/433">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► the interesting stuff for massive mob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/436">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► and do something different with it or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/437">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► any of his authors from 50 years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/439">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► well but within the Foundation series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/442">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► they did have three books that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/444">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► written by three different science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/445">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► fiction authors modern-day science right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/447">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► weren't very good so let's yeah just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/451">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► goes to show you i guess i would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/454">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► see somebody we take on some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/456">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► works of philip k dick like CA and fax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/457">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► it works Anthony's yeah well speaking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/460">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► which there is no model scalzi wrote a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/464">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► book called Androids Dream which I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/466">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► not read but it's on my kindle and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/468">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► it's it's much more of a it's much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/472">TS</a>]
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00:08:04 ◼ ► what's the idea behind the android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/484">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► stream it involves with the these aliens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/485">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► I'm trying to remember all i remember is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/490">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► there's something very there so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/494">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► a major plot point I feel like they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/496">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► to deal with like flatulence yes because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/497">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► the aliens communicate using sent as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/500">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► well as a speech is that not agent to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/504">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► no that's all we know maybe that maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/511">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► I have a red agent to the stars although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/514">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► that was the first one I ever heard of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/516">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► him with because the my crew like from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/517">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► penny arcade the cover when he released [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/522">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► shareware yeah originally which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/526">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► another inch that mean like i'll say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/530">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► this I one of the things I really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/531">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► he plays around with all this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/534">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► right he's not he's he's very involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/536">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► and engaged in what is the modern form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/538">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► right of a book or or you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/542">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► I know he for a my favorite thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/548">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► he's done recently out of either did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/551">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► read on the on April fools day he wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/553">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► this prologue so that is the backup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/559">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► oh I think I covered got his tour book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/562">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► store books did an analysis at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/564">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► the shadow war of the night dragons and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/572">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► so John Scalzi wrote are like he wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/577">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► the first comment on the post were they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/580">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► were they wrote about this egg I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/583">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► write this series you can just back the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/585">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► dump trucks of money up to my door now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/587">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► and then for april fools day he actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/588">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► wrote the prologue to books the shadow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/591">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► war of the night dragons book1 the Dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/595">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► City and if you haven't gotten a chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/597">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► go read this it is hilarious it is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/601">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► of the funniest things i've read in ages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/604">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► because he clearly just started like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/606">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► what's the most ridiculous thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/607">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► know i could write and then just kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/610">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► going and building on it and like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/613">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► gets more and more ridiculous and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/614">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► it's so perfectly constructed mockery of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/616">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► you know all the things that that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/620">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► love to make fun of about fantasy I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/622">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► got the the first paragraph of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/625">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► shadow war of the night dragons up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/628">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► I just want to be the first the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/631">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► sentence which is a paragraph knighted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► come to the city of school and Aria the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/634">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► sort of night with such a quality of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/637">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► black to it that it was as if Blaque [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/639">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► Cole had been wrapped in black as velvet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/640">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► bathed in the purple black ink of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/642">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► demon squid trindle and flung down a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/644">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► black well that descended toward the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/647">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► deepest black as crevices of drinkable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/648">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► phangan another world ruled by dribble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/650">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► in which the sinful were punished the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/653">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► black of which was so legendarily black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/654">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► that when the dreaded trindle thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/656">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► flag in the ravenous blind black badger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/659">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► trolls of dribble thinkin with feast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/661">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► upon the uselessly dilated eyes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/663">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► damned the abandoned would cry out enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/665">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► as the dreadful thing in flag in morton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/667">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► feared black spoons of the journal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/670">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► thingy flagon pressed against the optic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/672">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► nerves giving them one last sensation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/674">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► light before the most absolute blackness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/676">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► fell upon them made yet even blacker by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/678">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► the injuries sustained from a falling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/680">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► pink Bates velvet trapped old yaxha he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/682">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► said he's got a great sense of humor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/690">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► you see that I think most of us work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/692">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► not all of it but most of whom have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/693">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► guys read the God engines which was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/696">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► novella that he published it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/698">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► hilarious it was off it was a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/700">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► menomonie that was not funny it was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/702">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► familiar but I did read it it was good i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/705">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► thought it was weird way it's it's sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/708">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► of like there's a their priests who have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/710">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► a spaceship and they capture demons to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/713">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► travel from star system to star system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/716">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► and and that the demons are Devils or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/718">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► whatever they are are sort of tricksters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/720">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► and not to be trusted and yet they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/722">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► sort of torn tortured and tormented and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/724">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► and some I think the captain has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/727">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► crisis of faith at one point and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/730">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► smacked down by God and it's it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/732">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► religion as the propulsion system for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/736">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► these spaceships and it it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/740">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► that they're horribly exploiting various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/742">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► populations and its really dark and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/746">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► funny i was good and weird and not funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/749">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► good visitor since it is that supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/752">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► to be funny as I guess what I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/756">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► it shows that he doesn't always do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► light-hearted that is true is a very it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/759">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► was a much darker book that his other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/762">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► yeah but it was good it was that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/765">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► got some range so so the thing that John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/767">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► Scalzi is most famous for which I figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/770">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► we spend most of our time talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/772">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► we got into it last which is interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/774">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► this is his reboot of the forever war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/776">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► oh I said it caves of steel John skull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/779">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► does the caves of steel i would read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/785">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► that as well very easy to please see I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/787">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► just I'm just coming up with them you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/791">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► know you are you're much better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/792">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► this is a fun game we should open this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/793">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► up to the podcast listeners to send in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/796">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► their own reboots of modern science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/798">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► science-fiction novels of old just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/803">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► make sure to enclose a check with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/807">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► yes and a self-addressed stop stamped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/810">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► unable to be uncomfortable right Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/812">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► four of the world's oh I've got a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/815">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► good plot for that whole all right but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/818">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► suspect it weird that i was something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/821">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► else yes sir john scalzi is most well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/823">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► known for his old man's war series which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/826">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► is actually for books the original old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/829">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► man's war highly acclaimed and i believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/833">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► has just been optioned is probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/836">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► possibly going to be made into a major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/838">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► motion picture I've heard but that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/840">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► that you know that's a good book i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/845">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► assume you guys have have read that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/847">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► have you right now all those PS i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/850">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► all four alright i thought i read all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/853">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► four of them but it turns out there the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/856">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► first 10 it seems like a little too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/857">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► close too close or or I i read the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/860">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► everything but also old man's war the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/865">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► premise if it's been a little while now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/869">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► is that when you're on earth and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/871">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► you can sign up to basically join the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/875">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► space army and if you join the space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/878">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► army they grow you a new clone body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/880">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► that's young and healthy so that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/883">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► plus because otherwise you're gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/886">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► it and it's green so it's green but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/887">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► downside is you can never go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/890">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► earth and because the Space wars are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/892">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► really tough you'll probably just died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/895">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► in battle but you'll have it has its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/897">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► pros and it's comes but you know so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/901">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► and that's how it starts like the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/905">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► chapter right where this guy John joy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/907">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► out of promise right yeah yeah a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/910">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► people if it's funny it gets it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/915">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► compared a lot 22 ender's game and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/917">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► think that's because there are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/920">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► superficial similarities and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/924">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► sort of high-concept pitch that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/926">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► often hear it it's like ender's game but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/928">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► with old people and I think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/930">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► it's funny because a one of my good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/933">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► friends he had put off reading it for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/935">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► long time and then you just recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/938">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► started reading it goes wow this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/940">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► is much better I kept putting it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/942">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► because people kept comparing to ender's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/943">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► game he said like you know which I liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/944">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► but like I didn't necessarily want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/946">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► you know am and I think they're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/948">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► are at the kind of does the book of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/950">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► service because although i really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/952">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► ender's game and think is it one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/955">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► most seminal books with the last science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/956">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► fiction books the last like you know 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/958">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► years or so they are very different in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/960">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► tone if nothing else the style is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/963">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► high line like which I you know I look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/965">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► at the wikipedia entry and people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/967">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► yes if people are mentioning the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/969">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► books that I was going to mention it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/971">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► like which is starship troopers in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/972">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► forever war and there is so much high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/974">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► line that runs through especially this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/976">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► series it's definitely an homage to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/978">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► ya know i think that's that's definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/981">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► lighter to me then then some of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/987">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► other other books I mean a lighter than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/989">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► the forever war yeah just a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/991">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► uh-huh the downer also just in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/993">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► the narrative in terms of the the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/997">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► know the protagonist viewpoint that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► I don't know I i find it maybe just more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► something about his writing that is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► is very colloquial is very accessible by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► having an old man who turns into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► soldier you get you get to tell that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► that almost like starship troopers you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► get to tell a war story with this funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► viewpoint which is a an old man so he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► got a whole life's worth the worth of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► experiences and although he's not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► know used to being out in space and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► that he's not a wet-behind-the-ears kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► either and it's a great you know it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► it's a great little combination where he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► you know and there are some interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► characters and it is even though as his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► his compatriots get you know killed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► these horrible firefighters from time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► time it is still there's sort of a light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► aspect to it to right and there's other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► i don't know i mean you know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► there's sort of this whole like culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► shock sort of with the whole when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► put them in the new bodies all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► sudden you know there is this moment of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► hey we're all young again you know let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► take advantage of everything the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► has to offer us basically so but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► doesn't ignore that they actually set it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► up we're like there's a period of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► with a water traveling to wherever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► they're going to get slaughtered where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► it's basically party on the ship because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► new bar in their new young bodies young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► athletic like super soldier body's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► like yep you know what to do and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► and then you know in a couple of days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► we'll go down on the planet and most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► you will get killed for the glory of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► yeah well I mean and that's where that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► where the sort of i feel like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► where it gets a little more complexity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► you know along the lines of some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► those other books in terms of why is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► this war began and I think that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► intensifies as the books go on right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► rise this war being fought who are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► fighting exactly you know and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► there's some really interesting like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► point out that about them not going back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► to earth which as I recall was a sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► like a political move right basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► because you know in theory these guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► are like genetically engineered better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► than all the people on on on earth so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► wouldn't really be you know they're kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► of worried that these these super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► soldiers might turn on member something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► eventually when they they want to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► as it turns out but the politicians sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► of want to keep the earth under their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1137">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► thumb and answer so what is almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► a it's not quite as zoo but it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► like that where it's like you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► your honor if you're on earth and once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► you leave her if you don't go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► you see it's just like a little preserve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► of where all the original humans live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► and then there's the big wide the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► bite world which I love the widescreen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► aspect of it to where they're a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► different alien races and there and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► they're they're sort of different human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► groups as well and there's like search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► for territory and and they try to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► planets and take them back so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► like the politics that's going on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► there's the the especially the CIA kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► of military intelligence that's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► so it's not just the the grunts and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► fact the character kind of works its way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► up and gets a to peek inside the though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► the way the war machine works so so he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► not just an infantry guy all right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► as we as we progress you know as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► follow them throughout the series he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► gets two more increasingly important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1197">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► roles to the point where was the third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► book that he become sort of the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► leader of this colony or one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► major people like sort of founding a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► colony which is kind of any i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► there is this whole again like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► talking about the land grab type thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► and then the earth takes it to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► the next logical step in some ways to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► how are they going to found a colony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► that is not in danger of being attacked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► and and occupied by these other aliens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► and that is you know it's basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► let's let's not tell anybody where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► they're going like let's convince the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► overall going one place and then send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► them someplace totally else so that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► yeah thatthat's a there there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► so much going on then in the last colony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► the third book the second book the ghost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► brigades scott i know i read it and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► look at the description of its kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► edible though and I don't remember it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► set in the same world but really there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► are only a couple characters it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► in in common variant well there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► main ki mean the main the main virtue of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► it is that one of the characters that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► comes out of it becomes very important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► in the third book and in fact the fourth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► book is told from her perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► mmm do I certainly have read the fourth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► book and i don't think i've read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► third book said I can't tell if I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► oh yeah well the fourth in the third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► books tell the same story from two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► yeah so the funny thing about this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► that Zoe's tail the fourth book which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► interesting because it's almost like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► young adult retelling of the third book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► from the daughters perspective that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► the first one of these that i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► because it was nominated for a hugo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► it was in the hugo packet and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► really liked it to the point where i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► went back and read the other three and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► the funny thing about reading in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► he manages to pull off the fact that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► think the third and the fourth book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1318">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► despite telling essentially the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► story are still engrossing even when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► think you sort of know what's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► I because it if there's more to it than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► just the plot being the interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► points in the character development or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► interesting seeing these things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► there are some fairly important things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► that you see in that fourth book that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► you don't get to see their sort of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► screen in the third book so so in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► second book what happens is that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► this this this trader and the memories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► are implanted and all the stuff and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► get a Zoe who gets adopted by by the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► man from the first book and by jane who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► she is it's a clone of his wife because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► you get you to grow your clone but while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► the cones were cool growing his wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► died right she signed up to be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► military as well but she died before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1377">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► they left Earth basically and so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► still had a clone body for her but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► have no brain no mind to go into it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► so they just sort of they have like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► artificial like intelligence generator I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► basically they grow a brain from like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► you know she's basically said it starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► out with her being more I mean they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► basically take a brain and let it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► develop inside this body right its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► personality so it's sort of her but sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► yeah it's really creepy it it is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► all torino 10 now will end but shes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► photos dead so it's not dead but she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► sort of thinks like his dad why are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► heroes so because she's got the brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► but it's not his dead wife because she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► doesn't have the memories and so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► yeah it's it's a really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► thing and that that's the fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► thing about the last colony which I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► after reading is always tell which tells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► perspective the adopted daughters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► perspective but it's funny because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► you've got these two characters that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► so different from how they are earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► as it turns out when they're when there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► are soldiers and now they're kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► retired and trying to run this colony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► and so you got wacky characters that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► they're trying to keep you know in line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► and then all of a sudden there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► essentially a galactic incident and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► they're going to all die unless state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► they uh but it turns out what that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► daughter is being protected by this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► alien race that her father created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► writer or made sentient yes and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► made by anybody who hasn't read these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► books is going to be like whoa what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► hell are you talking that that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► what I'm seeking it also kind of it also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► kinda follows that mean thatthat's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► thatthat's the sort of fascinating thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► about is there are these wacky aliens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► and and there are essentially this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► little this little girl has these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► kind of like strange i don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► how to describe them they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► puffball alien X there aren't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► really like badass they're like really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► dangerous but there but they just follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► her around and videotape everything she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► does because she's a hero or she says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► she's a God basically because her father [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► created these these aliens or gave them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► yeah and so so you know she goes off in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► a spaceship and that story is told him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► up in the fourth book yeah that's it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► that's a pretty major point right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► disappear off the stage in book 3 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► then she shows up as almost sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► a deus ex machina out at the end but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► then that whole segment is fleshed out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► in the fourth book and I think that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► really interesting because the it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► sense that would say it's not entirely a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► deus ex machina it's just the story is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► meanwhile i have to say that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► without getting too damned these details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► it's fun you know the spaceship and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► space battles are fun the the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► alien diplomacy is hilarious and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► believe in is the last colony or is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► so easy tale where there's a duel to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► humanely and various aliens and they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► this thing where diplomacy fails and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► they're like let's duel and and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► have to kill a certain number of aliens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► and then you win and they do and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► win and it's just hilarious that mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► it's written seriously but at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► time it's just such a great ride it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► like sure why not a duel to the death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► let's do that it it's very entertaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► in a way that I mean I feel like so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► times their people think like a book can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► intellectually stimulating like make you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► think and I I feel like he does a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► good job of measuring those two so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► it's not totally cerebral and making you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► like Mass this is this is full of very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► deep thoughts I must I must meditate on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► these deep thoughts but I mean you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► there's there are interesting ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1617">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► woven within a story that is engaging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► and kind of a page-turner and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► that's a hard combination to pull off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► Scott you should read them apparently I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► have no idea why I guess I was not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► impressed with a old man's war and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► didn't feel I should read the rest i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► know it's not in its 19th century New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► York there's no detective just tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► so I you know it'sit's old man's war is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► a lot of fun but i think is funny the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► I think that my phone with old man's war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► is that i liked the forever war so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► oh yeah that can have you read Forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► War i'm familiar with it but I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► read it you know how i will how can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► be familiar with a pen haha oh I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► he's aware of its existence it is it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► well i mean i know people often talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► about sort of a diametrically opposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► did they put in contrast to the like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► starship troopers type thing I hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► those are sort of the two dipoles of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1677">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► whole you know the 67th Easwar that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► Rob the internship troopers like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► skill Elliot's and the forwards like war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► why it's a waste of time yeah I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► that was that the reason i didn't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► it was over yep agree board are done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► don't know seriously now forever war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► forever works great i read it maybe 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► years ago and one of the things about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► that's amazing is that to me it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► modern even now is written in 1974 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► it still feels modern because the plot I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► mean it's crazy it's it's like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► time dilation so they have every jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► they do you know hundreds of years pass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► or dozens of years pass and and so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► the the reason why they're fighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► keeps changing and kind of goes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► forever and the it's a it's amazing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► it's it really is an amazing book Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► agreed to disagree i totally great seeds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► it's a fantastic book and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► should you should totally read it it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► not uplifting but it is i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► important work and possibly one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► most important science fiction books of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► yeah I think you told me while I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► reading it right now I'm not reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► right now but i will read it I won't end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► yeah it's it's it's really good and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► not you know it's not attract right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► not a yo man war is regulars which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► sucky and we shouldn't fight band we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► should all love each other it's it's um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► nobody it's got the it's got the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► action of the war but it's also got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► impact on the soldiers because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► science fictional kind of affects the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► time dilation and light speed and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► and so society changes and so and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► the Vietnam parallel is that they come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► back the every time they come back into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► a world that day don't belong in right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► now but it actually sent out again to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► fight for it and then they come back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► again what they fought for is changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► yeah it's it's fascinating but on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► science-fiction level it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► interesting to say well you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► would happen if you got you return home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► everything was different you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► would be a really interesting thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► the enemy of the veterans that when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► reenter society I mean they are people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► at a time and there and it's very hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► for them to to adapt like I as i recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► don't when they return home isn't isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► heterosexuality is the dominant form of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► sexuality because they want to reduce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► population growth and so exactly so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► they become horribly like disaffected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► and yet there are also encouraged to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► have this like is there like surgery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► that they're inverses your sexual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► orientation and they're feeling through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► its wildlife it is it is really a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► mind-blowing kind of book it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► but it's good it's not definitely not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► preaching so yeah I totally recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► the forever war so it has similar themes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► yeah an old man's what I think is a fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► book in and of itself but when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► I don't think he can pick compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► the forever war as as a model not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► inspires necessarily to that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► think it's nice i mean i think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► what you know at least that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► enjoy about to a certain extent is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► it is it seems to be comfortable with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► its place which is to say you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► a good story and not to say there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► larger messages that you can take away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► from it but again contextually also it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► written in a very different era from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► something like the forever war which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► know clearly has all these you know tuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► close ties to the experience in Vietnam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► whereas you know the old man's work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► I know it was written in a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► presumably a wartime environment it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► not the same war and it i don't think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► necessarily tries to make me IE maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► it's just a book of its time in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► well I like about elements wars that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► doesn't flinch away from killing lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► yeah despite being an entertaining an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► entertaining story it's not without its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► darker moments and without its you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► sadness and other emotions as well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► just that it's well there's that core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► dwindling away the morning if I i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► that a lot of its to the purpose of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► telling the story and not necessarily to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► the purpose of telling a message if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► difference can be made ya know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► centered it's an entertainment more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► entertaining and i am a i'm a sucker for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► the the widescreen you know different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► star systems and and and in this case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► alien races with strange cultures that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► you know a lot of times just a proxy for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► our own like sort of culture clashes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► that we have and yet you know on earth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► but it's just fun to see all that mixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► up and and told and sort of unashamedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► just saying yes i'm going to write up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► you know different star system space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► opera kind of setting for this novel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► I think honestly that i enjoy reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► I do his books also let's talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► that he hasn't he has a blog that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► updates regularly but he should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► reading his books Georgia are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► should show him a thing or two about now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► it's called whatever do you say i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► regularly i read it when it's often when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► it's linked to I've read a few things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► written on there but I don't follow it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► I i have subscribed to it so I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► whenever he post something and I just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► he's a good i mean he is a good writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► and he any rugby blogs regularly which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► I imagine it's quite hard for somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► who's supposed to be actually you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► all right he's been it's a long-running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► blog right i think it predates is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► published fiction it in fact I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► that's not who he became a published [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► author because he wrote whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► agent to the stars and then he posted it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► on his blog and the rest as they say is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► a cleaning it is is a series of novels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► exactly I anything more to say about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► John Scalzi anything you want to bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► up i mean i wrote I wrote him a letter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► once who did you know is that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► argue with him like there is material [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► are lighter of am in fact he didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► write back means little said about not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► he wrote a very interesting blog post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► addressing sort of the idea why so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2097">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► of the new quote unquote writers in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► science fiction were you know people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► their thirties as opposed to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► young talent in their twenties and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► think most of it was talking about look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► because when you're in your twenties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► unless you know one of those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► who's like genius whatever you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► writing a lot of crap and sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► learning and getting that out of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► system and so you see these first quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► unquote novels from new writers in when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► they're in their thirties because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► they've you know been working on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► stuff all along and finally produce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► publishing and i was very good piece it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► would be made a lot of sense i mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► also echoes you know my own experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► which have heard a lot of crappy novels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► in my twenties and now that I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► I'm in my thirties I've I'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► grabbing us but they're getting less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► crappy job and so I said I wrote him an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► email about that just saying I I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► was interested in his this piece and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► theory there and never heard back but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► but you know that's alright and how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► get some ice to follow on twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► oh I don't follow me on Twitter but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► think that his blog is very interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► to someone who is interested in writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► and the business of writing in public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► and publishing because that's here i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► doubt about that and his thoughts about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► you know ebooks and self-publishing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► all that kind of stuff and that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► that i'm very interested in so i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► I don't know if you saw Scott the couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► weeks ago he did one about where his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► yes that was really interesting he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► this whole pie is all these pie chart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► percentage of my income that came from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► the royalties from the novel's selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► the options for the movie you know I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► accusing consultant on stargate universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► you know like and he chose these guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► i'll divide up as a pie is like so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► point being you know if you're a writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► you need to diversify because some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► these streams could just go away and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► don't know you know when that's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► happen and if you want to you know make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► you need to be able to make sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► even if that chunk of your revenue drops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► off you're still making enough money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2217">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► from other projects that you can still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► you know get by which was I mean which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► is totally true and i think it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► really interesting to see someone who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► well-known popular author talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► you know these it's not just write a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► gazillion dollars and you're set for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► so where does he make his money i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► a lot of a decent chunk of it in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► of like the recurring revenue comes from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► things like royalties but like you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► for example like I think it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► last year his biggest chunk came from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► this movie option for old man's war and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► he said well yeah that's great you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► I made a lot of money from it last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► but that's not something that's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► get repeated year after year so I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► necessarily count on that next year so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► have to make sure that i'm still doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► other things so easy he writes a column [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► for he was calm for a film site i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► animallsex.com yeah so I think he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► bounced around the places you did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► consulting gig for stargate universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► he's got he says he said I think he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► a consulting gig for some other company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► that he won't talk about i mean like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► bunch of different like little projects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► all on the side but i think the bulk of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► it still comes from from the books now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► see here sixty-three percent from books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► 23% from her from film option right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► that's is the old man's war film option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► six percent from consulting on stargate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► universe and for four-point-seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► yes I mean like I you know and Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► says like that's really interesting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► the business of someone who you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► people working as writers are interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► in working as a professional writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► it's really illuminating to see ya it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► straightforward as you might think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► that's true because my books are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► making me even like three percent so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► doing something horribly wrong and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► neither am i are making 0% Oh what might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2337">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► Oh take that hoe ? shyness reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► nobody cares about this looks that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► really what i hear lots of people care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► about wordpress to present my wife is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► writing a cookbook which is exciting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► her and in for me you know but and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► whenever anyone anyone ever hears that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► they're all very excited and I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► you know I've written like 45 police and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► nobody cares but you keep doing it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► manhattan on the head and I walk out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► room crying that's that's what gets me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► you your persevere someday full credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► to you Scott because i co-wrote over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► half of one book in like nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► ninety-five I think and it was it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► huge amount of work to write a technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► book and you know I got half of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► advanced for it and i calculated out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► later that I i would have if I'd taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► the money or if i take of a time that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► spent I don't think I want to hear the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► rest of this networking that breast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► worked at minimum wage i would have made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► twice as much money just remember i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► you sent around an email once of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► are in our day jobs saying oh yeah these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► people are looking for somebody to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► technical edition of this book and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► think I ask you about it you're like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► know it's probably not worth route just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► in terms of like how much it takes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► how much time it takes and how much you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► get out of it yeah i think what i said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► is it you kind of scared me all my stock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► answer is if you if you wanna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► experience of doing a book and be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► to say that your name is on a published [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► book do it if i doing it I not not on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► that but if you're doing it for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► don't do it good or don't do it for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► body no you notice I haven't given up my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► day job to write novels yet thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► that's why i write those letters to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► publisher saying damned organism that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► there no writer don't publish know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► would be great if I if I ever get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► something published in the first thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► I'm going to do is tell my agent hey I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► know a guy who has books you should look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► at what we got we got it we gotta make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► his name is Scott McNulty see what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► well I served at the novelization of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► WordPerfect celebrate you gotta run home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► hey so uh hey what are you reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► i thought i would ask the musical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► question what are you reading you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► reading anything interesting this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► have you stopped reading I am I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► rereading classic book just because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► happened i bought it on Mike on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► kindle app for my iPad because i found a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► copy of it for like a dollar and are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► excited I it's the second book in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► mystery series written in the nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► thirties got the way and it set and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► and certainly in in England Dorothy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► stairs who is a great classic mystery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► writer who writes about the detective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► named Lord Peter Wimsey one of the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► of the inspirations actually four miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► for clothes again but a book that I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► or a series that i read growing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► because my mother is a huge mystery fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► like that's her she only reads mysteries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► will not only but she mostly read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► mysteries and so I grew up reading a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► classic you know Agatha Christie or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► conan doyle Dorothy stairs etc and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► I'm rereading a couple of books because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► it's been many years since i read them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► and I'm finding them delightfully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► entertaining but part of that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► sort of in a holding pattern because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► there are several books coming out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► i'm looking forward to reading including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► fuzzy nation I don't pick up even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► presentation but it's got up protagonist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► with a pipe who finds fuzzy aliens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► what are you reading scott i'm reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► currently a the river river of God's by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► ian MacDonald who is his most recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► book a dozen fish house was is nominated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► yes yes very good by the way if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► haven't read it at least 200 pages in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► its good could go all horribly wrong and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► speaking of miles force however the head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► girls marcos again because again there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► you go i finished all of those so I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► finished crying burn the lat 0 in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► series so far last night in fact finish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► quickly that is not as my heartbreak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► heartbreaking any so so you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► coming but it's your kind of friend you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► know it's coming and I mean I knew and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► knew what the line was going to be read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► well because they refer to it early he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► yes someday some poor guys gonna come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► to me and say account for cosine work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► goes again but it's still a brother I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► teared up a little bell getting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► just because I you know and ended then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► the leper blogs after that as well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► mean I thought and I i think it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► interesting to see i want i really want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► to see where we're this good this new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► chapter of his life leads in but we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► have to wait a little while for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► oh I think that high jinks was soup is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► probably so she wrote like a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► fantasy series in between the latter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► yes it's ok so it wouldn't be I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► be at the top of my list but yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► just funny that so she really seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► like she was really cranking on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► proposed again stuff in the nineties and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► after diplomatic immunity and she didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► write another book for eight years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► yeah diplomatic immunity came out when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► was first reading my way through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► series which was in college I came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► what 2003 and yeah i just finished like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► I sort of caught up as that came out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► then I had to wait many many years for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► yeah and now and now that's so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► know if she's just lost some enthusiasm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► for what I think she you know and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► heard her talk about it and I think part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► of it is you know miles getting older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► he's you know he's a character wages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► realistically and I think part of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► she's told a lot of the stories that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► wanted to tell and she just you know she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► has no need to feel compelled to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► stories of the moment unless she comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► up with something she really wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► write about order know that she needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► when I well yeah she writes funny others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► that she ready for book you know sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► fantasy series he wrote a whole nother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► separate fantasy series and i know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► the 1i saw her speak last fall she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► previewed the first chapter of a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► that she's writing about Ivan the miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► yeah which and I think she know she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► like oh I've got a story I want to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► that you know in which Ivan would be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► protagonist and I think that's great i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► would like I'm looking forward to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► that I hoping that she finishes it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► it gets published because it sounded it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► was very entertaining the bit that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► heard so yeah I mean I guess that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► kind of the way it goes i will say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► instantly another book that look forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► to a former book club topic China [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► Mieville has another book coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► understand it is sort of his take on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► space opera so that I am extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► interested in reading as well I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► that comes out in a couple weeks and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► can you can read the first 50 pages on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► tours website it delivers becomes so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► lots of stuff coming out soon we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► wow there is a lot of stuff coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► so it's not george RR martin with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► 1600 page that did is that what I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► today that it's going to be like sixteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► hundred pages town like it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► on Twitter told us it's what it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► they would like to ask out now Carol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► understand why it took him so long as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► that it's actually as long as five books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► and part of me wants to say well yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► that's because he didn't stop at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► point that you know what that's a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► maybe i can get the next one out like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► three years stretch the nice thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► actually I liked about about reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► crab earnest if she never writes another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► miles book i'll be sad but but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► there's a good end it is it's every most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► of its wrapped up books all have endings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► right exactly i was going to say that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► the problem miles Syrah although i get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► flack i did enjoy it obviously because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► read so all of them and they're also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► their self-contained and they build on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► each other and that's very but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► satisfied because it's a good story if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► you pick up one of George RR Martin's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► books in the European you know why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► don't even try yeah that's the challenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► of writing series i feel like it's is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► you know how do you make I i mean i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► that sort of that plot of you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► continuing Adventures of so and so and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► so you can read an adventure and still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► sort of have an idea what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► if you read other adventures of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► characters you will know more you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► get a little more out of it but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► won't be entirely lost if you have never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► read anything else whereas these long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► sort of sagas that that jumped from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► know that are thousands of thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► pages long if you haven't read all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► way from beginning your your kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► kind of a creek i will give george RR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► martin incredible he does not fall for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► everything that's happened previously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► just goes right into that will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► I don't need the recap would be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► half the length yeah its first 800 pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► of the book and just be like a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► boring Lee written revision the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► and then they did this and any what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► doesn't kill this night this night did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► this and this guy did previously on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► game of thrones know if there is too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► let me sum up there are dragons and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► somewhere White Walkers the others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► that's all you need to know it's yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2937">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► here we go no here's how you do it go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► the first started there just they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► you open it up it should be like us on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► don't buy this book almost you bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► the other books by opening this book you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► atmosphere that explains how he makes so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► much money it will apparently all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► other books are back on the New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► Times bestseller list yeah he holds a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► picture of HBO lots of money and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► researches all the characters for his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► novels know the crowd burn you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► interesting because having she hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► written a book in this universe and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► long that I thought it was kind of funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► that it clearly was something that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► an idea like like we talked about in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► mouse podcast ethan of athos which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► didn't like I thought it was really bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► but it was clearly about something right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► ramifications of having the uterine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► replicator so that you don't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► need women to have babies and cry Auburn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► was very much like that in the sense not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► message that was bad because i liked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► but it in the sense that it was about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► something which is what what is the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► of the ramifications of the cryogenic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► system that she put in that saved my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► life we can freeze people and bring them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► back later and there's this planet where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► the voters are large leaf frozen corpse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► this and they've got voting rights and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► there's a-there cryo tombs and and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► love the the economic hijinks that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► don't ruin it for everybody but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► the whole idea of what happens is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► yeah it's one of the ways it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► like there's a nefarious plot right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► yeah it's fascinating in the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► yeah and in the end you know it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► hangs on the coincidence that this kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► finds miles when he's stumbling around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► in the street and the kid happens to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► the mother or the the son of the his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► mother is like the key pivotal figure in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► so there's some there's some you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► boy that was lucky that that kid fella [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► thing but that's just a little as 14 lat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► yeah but after that I mean it's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► like a whole like cryogenic lab that set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► up an abandoned building and I mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► wacky it's but it was it was a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► fun and you could tell that she enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► having as well done together you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► yeah and you get to see some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► other characters pop in mark pops in for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► yeah yeah there's some you know i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► the character the character who i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► thought i would really dislike the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► oh he turned out to be very good future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► doesn't look very pretty cool actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► although i did that the the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► ending where he falls in love with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► what's-her-name I saw that coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3117">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► yes I was a little it was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► telling but still I I like that he ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► that you know you think he's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► one of those bureaucratic guys who miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► so often encounters he's just going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► be a pain in the ass and gets forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► it's right what really turns out to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► kind of a useful sympathetic character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► they expected to be the obstructionist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► bureaucrat be or as they say in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► simpsons it means it gets results you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► stupid chief right you expect him to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► it's like he stops the cop from the cop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► on the edge there are buildings by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► loose cannon and that's right hand in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► your badge and gun my desk but and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► you get you get some nice time with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► it's a nice time with ronak who I grown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► to really really like right as a series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► has gone on and a couple nights you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► I mean I enjoyed especially because she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► takes the time to tell the story from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► what's-his-name the kids point of view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► option is jen yeah you get you get an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► perspective right on miles is a special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► exactly exactly mr. Solomon just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► little fellow he's always like that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► I have an idea about a child as a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► little digression there i have to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► insurance order I I liked it a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► better than I liked diplomatic immunity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► which is one of my least favorite books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► in this area actually is that the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► with the wacky shenanigans with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► butter but listen no no that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► civil campaign i love so okay greats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► what's diplomatic immunity diplomatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► immunity is the one before it where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► and there's qualities is that the it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► an attempt to do like sort of a murder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► mystery but it also it just didn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► was so divorced from everything that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► kind of interesting there were so few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► characters I felt like that the stove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► you the familiar characters in it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► some ways that it felt really like alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► oh and they end up in there there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► showdown in the spaceship where yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► yeah it was not my favorite I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► has its moments ago we have am I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► yeah well I mean that was Stephen only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3237">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► loosely even a mile yeah now it's not i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► enjoyed even eventos I thought was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► alright showdown go fight the jet that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► that's my only argument all right take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► that no you didnt Scott haha dough you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► ah you should you should tell us what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► you've been reading Jason yes well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► finish briber which again starting with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► that I our way we mentioned that earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► i believe if i recall correctly and i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► reading a book called the hidden reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► where is it it is all around us the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► closet check the clock that it's by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► brian greene who is a fast and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► elegant science books that i like and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► wrote the elegant universe which is as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► confused people who want to know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► string theory in much the same way if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► it's Stephen Hawking's book a brief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► history of time confuse people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► wanted to know about relativity I like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► loved that book actually and and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► his third I think of these popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► science books and it's about parallel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► universes and how they could actually be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► scientifically possible and it's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► it's good it's not topical it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► it's hard rowing in a sense that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► know it's physics and you've got a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► can't exactly be listening to a baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► game while you're reading it as somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► who tried this York it can't be done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► something on you about well if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► if it's an infinitely expanding universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► that means there's an infinite expanse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► in the universe which means there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► infinite number of galaxies and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► that's true and it's truly infinite then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► there's another planet somewhere out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► there in the universe that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► hours did you know there is in fact an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► infinite number of them and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► what I have to turn off the baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► oh but it's good stuff it's it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► bringing these but mind-blowing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► that are happening and in modern physics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► and trying to explain it it with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► know some analogies and try to get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► understand what an 11 dimensional string [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► theory based space-time would would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► like which is really hard but he does a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► pretty good job so i recommend the Brian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► Greene you know his series start with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► the elegant universe which is excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► about string theory if it has been a the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► Pluto files by neil degrasse tyson i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► haven't although I I should because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► read i think i spent on an earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► podcast i read Mike Brown's book how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► killed Pluto and why it had it coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► which is a lot of fun about being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► working astronomer and finding these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► deep solar system objects but i haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► it's a lo lot of fun because he gets a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► so Neil deGrasse Tyson runs the Hayden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► Planetarium planetarium exactly so here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► representation of the solar system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► material out and grouped with other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► other things because they group the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► planets in the ways that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3417">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► grouped with celestial objects and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► then that kind of started this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► thing about him killing Pluto and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► push the original saludo killer he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► and your favorite pounds that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► getting like letters from four-year-olds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► written in crayon accusing him exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► why did you need dear dr. Tyson neil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► degrasse tyson why did you kill flew to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► open i am very sad sad face here exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► yeah I know he's a funny guy I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► follow him on twitter and he has he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► very smart and funny guy and I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► to the Hayden Planetarium and I saw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► diorama and afterward i thought you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► i think that i think that's the place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► where they killed Pluto are there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► there a little chalk outline exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► little circle at the underfloor but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► did read the reason Empire has anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► heard of this by scott westerfeld who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► on the Twitter I i enjoyed it he scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► westerfeld is probably best known for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► his young adult fiction now so he wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► Leviathan and behemoths and some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► I an adult center but the the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► Empire is his he explains on his website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► that he wanted to write the space opera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► that he wanted to read when he was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► fourteen-year-old so he wrote the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► empire which is a fascinating book about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► this empire called the reason empire who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► they figure out how to cheat death by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► creating this viet that will give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► eternal life but the problem is you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► to be dead before it can be implanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► into you so kind of resurrects you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► then there are other races that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► solved the problem of immortality in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► interesting book but you should read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► there are two books that were actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► written as one book so if you decide you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► want to read the reason Empire make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► you get the sequel because it is in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► one book and the first bar ends very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► abruptly ah that seems to get around now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► if you know we're going in it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► it's if you don't get going in yet why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► that's dangerous no residents to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► happened to me with the economy blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► I like mattered man she's running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► children pages they're not gonna get out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► ok guess that just stops right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► this is basically this book stops like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► in the middle of the climactic battle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► and it's just stops sure that is awkward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► alright i like talking about books I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► wish I read more books it's hard to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► time to read so many good books that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► out there that I hear about on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► podcast and some mediocre ones i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► yeah I don't know I I it's hard to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3593">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► you know like if there's an author the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► way that I follow and like anything come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► up with a new book i almost always read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► it but I'm very skittish sometimes about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► about reading new unproven mother's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► unproven to you or unproven in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► oh yeah self-centered self-centered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► self-interested egotistical arrogant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► yep that kinda stuff if so yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► me alright well thank you for joining me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► and talking about books it's so nice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► feel as if I am surrounded by people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► are literate my friend got a fortune and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► misfortune cookie the other night that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► said you are not illiterate while high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► backhanded couple in bed haha how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► gold that is why Scott McNulty is here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► also because he read lots of books it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► alright well thanks to everybody for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► joining us on the podcast tonight thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► to my compatriots although we aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► compatriots we are still looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► that some patriotic it's dan more'n [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► thankyou thankyou results and Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► hello it's a pleasure as a until next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► time this is justin still for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► I have never picked up one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► books they are not good but I read them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZUffw8/3698">TS</a>]
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