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34: The Wrath of James Caan

 

00:00:07   the incomparable part test 234 april [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/7">TS</a>]

00:00:14   we are back on the incomparable i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/14">TS</a>]

00:00:17   jason l your host our topic today is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/17">TS</a>]

00:00:20   from page to screen we're going to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/20">TS</a>]

00:00:23   about books being made into movies or TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/23">TS</a>]

00:00:26   shows the good examples if there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/26">TS</a>]

00:00:29   such things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/29">TS</a>]

00:00:30   the terrible examples there are plenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/30">TS</a>]

00:00:32   of those and joining me today to discuss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/32">TS</a>]

00:00:36   this we have Dan Morgan hi Dan jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/36">TS</a>]

00:00:40   scott McNulty hello hello and John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/40">TS</a>]

00:00:44   siracusa good evening good evening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/44">TS</a>]

00:00:48   so this was a good idea brought up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/48">TS</a>]

00:00:50   actually by Scott McNulty so full credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/50">TS</a>]

00:00:52   to him with the game of thrones having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/52">TS</a>]

00:00:55   just premiered on HBO TV series based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/55">TS</a>]

00:00:59   a series of novels by george RR martin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/59">TS</a>]

00:01:02   and we're going to talk about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/62">TS</a>]

00:01:03   series probably a couple of times in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/63">TS</a>]

00:01:06   next couple of months but that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/66">TS</a>]

00:01:08   really as much the topic of tonight's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/68">TS</a>]

00:01:10   incomparable as it is a jumping-off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/70">TS</a>]

00:01:14   point now many of us I think have read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/74">TS</a>]

00:01:17   the novel game of thrones and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/77">TS</a>]

00:01:19   it's interesting that even after one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/79">TS</a>]

00:01:21   episode if you've seen it it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/81">TS</a>]

00:01:24   faithful retailing and actually i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/84">TS</a>]

00:01:26   get the heebie-jeebies from it like I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/86">TS</a>]

00:01:28   have with some other adaptations as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/88">TS</a>]

00:01:31   anybody else just really quickly as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/91">TS</a>]

00:01:33   anybody else seen the first episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/93">TS</a>]

00:01:34   Game of Thrones haven't actually watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/94">TS</a>]

00:01:37   you guys suck okay i don't watch it John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/97">TS</a>]

00:01:41   watched him i didn't have read the books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/101">TS</a>]

00:01:43   though so I'm coming into it ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/103">TS</a>]

00:01:44   interesting though I read the books and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/104">TS</a>]

00:01:47   I watched oh yeah what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/107">TS</a>]

00:01:48   so what did you think did it do the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/108">TS</a>]

00:01:50   faithful to faithful not faithful enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/110">TS</a>]

00:01:52   I i did not get any heebie-jeebies good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/112">TS</a>]

00:01:55   just kind of you and me behind that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/115">TS</a>]

00:01:59   thought was pretty faithful i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/119">TS</a>]

00:02:00   read the books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/120">TS</a>]

00:02:01   long long ago but it's it reminded me of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/121">TS</a>]

00:02:05   what was happening in the book so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/125">TS</a>]

00:02:08   seems good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/128">TS</a>]

00:02:09   I mean it with what it's an HBO series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/129">TS</a>]

00:02:10   so I think that kind of front-loaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/130">TS</a>]

00:02:13   some more sex than was perhaps in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/133">TS</a>]

00:02:15   first the beginning of the books to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/135">TS</a>]

00:02:18   people interested in the fantasy show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/138">TS</a>]

00:02:20   but other than that yeah you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/140">TS</a>]

00:02:23   think I think it was faithful I I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/143">TS</a>]

00:02:25   there's a lot of downloading to be done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/145">TS</a>]

00:02:27   there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/147">TS</a>]

00:02:28   about this world and i can understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/148">TS</a>]

00:02:30   that would be kind of hard to get it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/150">TS</a>]

00:02:31   I mean John you you haven't read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/151">TS</a>]

00:02:34   book but you watched it was it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/154">TS</a>]

00:02:36   seem like you could you could follow it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/156">TS</a>]

00:02:38   or was it sort of like wow without a map [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/158">TS</a>]

00:02:41   i have no idea what's going on here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/161">TS</a>]

00:02:42   it was okay for our first episode III [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/162">TS</a>]

00:02:45   didn't feel like it was racing away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/165">TS</a>]

00:02:46   my understanding i was but they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/166">TS</a>]

00:02:49   spend too much time dwelling on things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/169">TS</a>]

00:02:51   but they spent enough time that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/171">TS</a>]

00:02:54   understood the players were and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/174">TS</a>]

00:02:56   know how the pieces are arranged on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/176">TS</a>]

00:02:57   board sort of so i think it struck a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/177">TS</a>]

00:02:59   good balance in terms of exposition and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/179">TS</a>]

00:03:01   and drama [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/181">TS</a>]

00:03:03   yeah I will worry bicep I season three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/183">TS</a>]

00:03:05   or four lost Rajas too many characters I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/185">TS</a>]

00:03:08   i think that i would be worried normally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/188">TS</a>]

00:03:10   about about something like that having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/190">TS</a>]

00:03:12   read the book I'd watch that first step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/192">TS</a>]

00:03:13   of soda say wow this is dense are people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/193">TS</a>]

00:03:16   going to get this but you know it's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/196">TS</a>]

00:03:18   more dense than the wire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/198">TS</a>]

00:03:19   really yeah i mean there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/199">TS</a>]

00:03:20   plenty of TV shows that are out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/200">TS</a>]

00:03:22   and HBO is obviously a great example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/202">TS</a>]

00:03:24   org or something like madmen for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/204">TS</a>]

00:03:26   is just like where there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/206">TS</a>]

00:03:28   players but people are people are pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/208">TS</a>]

00:03:30   good at keeping those things straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/210">TS</a>]

00:03:31   especially if they do as they appear to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/211">TS</a>]

00:03:33   have done here such a good job with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/213">TS</a>]

00:03:34   casting to the point of you know really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/214">TS</a>]

00:03:37   finding people who look like these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/217">TS</a>]

00:03:38   characters and are different enough so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/218">TS</a>]

00:03:40   it doesn't look like it and Martin's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/220">TS</a>]

00:03:41   books have a wide enough range of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/221">TS</a>]

00:03:43   characters that it's not like oh it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/223">TS</a>]

00:03:45   another guy that I can't tell from any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/225">TS</a>]

00:03:48   of the other guys so in talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/228">TS</a>]

00:03:50   adaptations let's let's start with once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/230">TS</a>]

00:03:53   we think that are good and to to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/233">TS</a>]

00:03:55   about that i'm going to go to answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/235">TS</a>]

00:03:58   because I think of nobody who is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/238">TS</a>]

00:03:59   positive and and trying to illuminate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/239">TS</a>]

00:04:03   what's good in the world than john john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/243">TS</a>]

00:04:05   g houses some suggestions for good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/245">TS</a>]

00:04:08   adaptations i do I thought working some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/248">TS</a>]

00:04:11   negative stuff too because my good self [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13   my first one is dune and this is a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/253">TS</a>]

00:04:18   that wasn't from the eighties yes and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/258">TS</a>]

00:04:20   was long ago actually that was five I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/260">TS</a>]

00:04:22   believe yeah it was David Lynch was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/262">TS</a>]

00:04:25   short very strange director who has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/265">TS</a>]

00:04:27   lot of character released within a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/267">TS</a>]

00:04:30   couple weeks of one of the ones i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/270">TS</a>]

00:04:31   going to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/271">TS</a>]

00:04:32   strangely enough anyway and your image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/272">TS</a>]

00:04:34   and sting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/274">TS</a>]

00:04:35   yes yes so and Kyle make sure to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/275">TS</a>]

00:04:41   I'm not gonna hold up doing as like a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/281">TS</a>]

00:04:43   a great movie about this one thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/283">TS</a>]

00:04:46   can say about for doing is that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/286">TS</a>]

00:04:47   interesting there's very little and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/287">TS</a>]

00:04:50   movie that is expected or boring even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/290">TS</a>]

00:04:53   though it is a sci-fi movie so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/293">TS</a>]

00:04:54   everything about it is kind of weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/294">TS</a>]

00:04:56   like it should be in a David Lynch movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/296">TS</a>]

00:04:57   the character is a weird the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/297">TS</a>]

00:04:59   performances are weird the casting is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/299">TS</a>]

00:05:01   weird with that this thing doing there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/301">TS</a>]

00:05:03   the set design everything about it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/303">TS</a>]

00:05:05   weird now if you compare it to the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/305">TS</a>]

00:05:07   i know a lot of people really love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/307">TS</a>]

00:05:08   doing book but I didn't dislike I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/308">TS</a>]

00:05:12   I kind of did dislike the notebook is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/312">TS</a>]

00:05:13   i just don't like Frank Herbert is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/313">TS</a>]

00:05:15   writer I just think he's boring and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/315">TS</a>]

00:05:18   book he was so wrapped up talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/318">TS</a>]

00:05:20   planting intriguing idea that's our own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/320">TS</a>]

00:05:22   there i think that's unfair because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/322">TS</a>]

00:05:23   after the first 250 pages dude picks up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/323">TS</a>]

00:05:28   oh oh oh no you're right it'sit's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/328">TS</a>]

00:05:34   boring and then there's some action but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/334">TS</a>]

00:05:36   but seriously i looked and it was it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/336">TS</a>]

00:05:38   about 250 pages of just death before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/338">TS</a>]

00:05:40   get there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/340">TS</a>]

00:05:41   yeah and the thing about it is he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/341">TS</a>]

00:05:44   this very interesting world but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/344">TS</a>]

00:05:45   obviously david lynch didn't make up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/345">TS</a>]

00:05:47   source material so that the world that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/347">TS</a>]

00:05:48   Frank Harper made up and doing is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/348">TS</a>]

00:05:50   interesting and has lots of cool things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/350">TS</a>]

00:05:52   in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/352">TS</a>]

00:05:53   none of which he describes because he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/353">TS</a>]

00:05:55   more interested in describing the sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/355">TS</a>]

00:05:57   of political intrigue and he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/357">TS</a>]

00:05:59   describing any of the very interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/359">TS</a>]

00:06:01   aspects of the society or technology i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/361">TS</a>]

00:06:03   which is why when David Lynch made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/363">TS</a>]

00:06:05   movie he could make the characters the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/365">TS</a>]

00:06:08   settings the vehicles look like whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/368">TS</a>]

00:06:10   the heck he wanted other than the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/370">TS</a>]

00:06:11   that sandwich was probably look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/371">TS</a>]

00:06:12   worms everything else was up for grabs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/372">TS</a>]

00:06:15   so he said fine you're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/375">TS</a>]

00:06:16   describe anything your book i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/376">TS</a>]

00:06:17   make the ship's look like gigantic art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/377">TS</a>]

00:06:19   deco you know bed headboards or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/379">TS</a>]

00:06:22   something flying through the air and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/382">TS</a>]

00:06:23   going to make the navigators look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/383">TS</a>]

00:06:24   giant floating slug things and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/384">TS</a>]

00:06:26   he did just whatever that he wanted i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/386">TS</a>]

00:06:28   think that that freedom of frank herbert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/388">TS</a>]

00:06:30   not describing anything and not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/390">TS</a>]

00:06:32   being a writer's writer and david lynch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/392">TS</a>]

00:06:34   being absolutely crazy and a director's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/394">TS</a>]

00:06:36   director produced this wonderful strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/396">TS</a>]

00:06:39   movie that i think is better than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/399">TS</a>]

00:06:41   book and most of the ways that movie can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/401">TS</a>]

00:06:43   be better than the book I mean obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/403">TS</a>]

00:06:44   doesn't really hold together as a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/404">TS</a>]

00:06:46   and it's kind of nonsensical and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/406">TS</a>]

00:06:48   deviates from the book in many important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/408">TS</a>]

00:06:50   ways in terms of you know that the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/410">TS</a>]

00:06:53   and then and that the magic powers in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/413">TS</a>]

00:06:54   the plot but i but i'm watching I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/414">TS</a>]

00:06:56   I don't care go ahead David Lynch show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/416">TS</a>]

00:06:58   me what you've got and I just just get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/418">TS</a>]

00:07:00   good vibe out of it home i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/420">TS</a>]

00:07:01   that's one of the best examples of book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/421">TS</a>]

00:07:03   that was like okay it's alright it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/423">TS</a>]

00:07:05   some crazy things about and frank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/425">TS</a>]

00:07:07   herbert's kind of a boring writer if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/427">TS</a>]

00:07:09   put that kind of booked into the hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/429">TS</a>]

00:07:11   of a very yeah talented quirky director [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/431">TS</a>]

00:07:15   you get an interesting movie did you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/435">TS</a>]

00:07:17   the sci-fi miniseries of doom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/437">TS</a>]

00:07:19   unfortunately thanks Harvey I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/439">TS</a>]

00:07:23   we were going to TV if I had to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/443">TS</a>]

00:07:24   things I was doing goes to a movie you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26   get this very interesting movie from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/446">TS</a>]

00:07:27   david lynch then it goes to TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/447">TS</a>]

00:07:28   miniseries and if you're a big fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/448">TS</a>]

00:07:30   the book you're like all finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/450">TS</a>]

00:07:31   miniseries I give the room the books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/451">TS</a>]

00:07:33   room to breathe but you can see again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/453">TS</a>]

00:07:36   because there's no real descriptions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/456">TS</a>]

00:07:38   stuff in the book you can do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/458">TS</a>]

00:07:39   you want and the TV series what they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/459">TS</a>]

00:07:41   was made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/461">TS</a>]

00:07:41   things not very interesting and kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/461">TS</a>]

00:07:44   ugly and the reduction sort of felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/464">TS</a>]

00:07:46   you know of what you'd expect from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/466">TS</a>]

00:07:48   sci-fi channel show right it was sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/468">TS</a>]

00:07:49   like the sci-fi channel version of doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/469">TS</a>]

00:07:51   which is exactly what it was and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/471">TS</a>]

00:07:53   looked like that it felt like that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/473">TS</a>]

00:07:54   don't think it was that Latin it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/474">TS</a>]

00:07:56   it lived in the shadow of the David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/476">TS</a>]

00:07:57   Lynch 10 because he had such a defining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59   vision of what all this stuff is like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/479">TS</a>]

00:08:01   think that maybe was more entertaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/481">TS</a>]

00:08:02   but I it certainly didn't attempt to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/482">TS</a>]

00:08:06   anything interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/486">TS</a>]

00:08:07   now yeah I don't wanna fight i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/487">TS</a>]

00:08:10   don't think it was terrible as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/490">TS</a>]

00:08:12   sci-fi series go but it's really didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/492">TS</a>]

00:08:15   stick with me and it took Scott's point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/495">TS</a>]

00:08:17   the sequel was atrocious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/497">TS</a>]

00:08:19   so yeah I know source material is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/499">TS</a>]

00:08:21   atrocious I don't have enough to stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/501">TS</a>]

00:08:23   reading the source material for that do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/503">TS</a>]

00:08:24   not that after reading one Frank Herbert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26   book i was like he had enough of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/506">TS</a>]

00:08:27   guy so my second one should i do my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/507">TS</a>]

00:08:32   second year ago somebody else not go for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/512">TS</a>]

00:08:34   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/514">TS</a>]

00:08:34   ok so my second one this is an easy one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/514">TS</a>]

00:08:36   but what most people don't think of but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/516">TS</a>]

00:08:38   i do of course but such a big Stephen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/518">TS</a>]

00:08:40   King fan is Rita Hayworth and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/520">TS</a>]

00:08:41   shawshank redemption and I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/521">TS</a>]

00:08:43   a perfect example because so many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/523">TS</a>]

00:08:45   Stephen King's things have been made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/525">TS</a>]

00:08:49   into movies and so many of the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/529">TS</a>]

00:08:50   have been so terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/530">TS</a>]

00:08:52   now here's an example that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/532">TS</a>]

00:08:54   pretty much everyone can agree it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/534">TS</a>]

00:08:55   fantastic movie and the reason it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/535">TS</a>]

00:08:57   fantastic movie is a few things one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59   stephen king is an amazing storyteller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/539">TS</a>]

00:09:01   not an amazing writer but an amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/541">TS</a>]

00:09:02   storyteller and two it's a short story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/542">TS</a>]

00:09:05   it's not a novel so pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/545">TS</a>]

00:09:07   everything he put on the page you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/547">TS</a>]

00:09:08   room for a 22 and a half hour movie so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/548">TS</a>]

00:09:11   you get to take this story by a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/551">TS</a>]

00:09:14   storyteller and play it out exactly as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/554">TS</a>]

00:09:17   it is in the book without having to drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/557">TS</a>]

00:09:18   anything without having to crazy edits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/558">TS</a>]

00:09:20   and then the final thing is there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/560">TS</a>]

00:09:21   nothing supernatural in this story every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/561">TS</a>]

00:09:23   time the supernatural stuff in a stephen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/563">TS</a>]

00:09:25   king book it kind of goes off the rails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/565">TS</a>]

00:09:28   when they try to fill it because either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/568">TS</a>]

00:09:29   it's hokey and it only works when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/569">TS</a>]

00:09:30   write it but we try to film it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/570">TS</a>]

00:09:32   ridiculous or just they don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/572">TS</a>]

00:09:34   to film with the right way or it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/574">TS</a>]

00:09:36   supposed to be scary it just looks dumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/576">TS</a>]

00:09:37   you know it's very difficult to do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/577">TS</a>]

00:09:39   know supernatural horror very well in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/579">TS</a>]

00:09:42   film it's easier to do it in a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/582">TS</a>]

00:09:43   where you're writing about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/583">TS</a>]

00:09:45   so this this had no supernatural stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/585">TS</a>]

00:09:47   so they just ghosts from a straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/587">TS</a>]

00:09:48   story about people with no magic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/588">TS</a>]

00:09:50   you know a couple hundred pages and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/590">TS</a>]

00:09:52   just put direct the film and give it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/592">TS</a>]

00:09:54   good cast in a good director and makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/594">TS</a>]

00:09:56   an excellent movie you know another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/596">TS</a>]

00:09:58   chance to John's point I think he makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/598">TS</a>]

00:10:01   a really good point because I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/601">TS</a>]

00:10:03   about this in the past the short stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/603">TS</a>]

00:10:05   and movies are actually in some ways a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/605">TS</a>]

00:10:06   lot I feel like closer in in art form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/606">TS</a>]

00:10:09   than novels and movies and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/609">TS</a>]

00:10:12   because short stories are so economical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/612">TS</a>]

00:10:14   there's such a it so there's a unity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/614">TS</a>]

00:10:16   right of of point like it's very focused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/616">TS</a>]

00:10:19   it'sit's doesn't have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/619">TS</a>]

00:10:20   extraneous tangents you don't usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/620">TS</a>]

00:10:22   have like a dude you know tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/622">TS</a>]

00:10:24   characters if there's something very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/624">TS</a>]

00:10:26   focused about it whereas in a novel you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/626">TS</a>]

00:10:28   know I feel like in some ways novels are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/628">TS</a>]

00:10:30   better adapted to things like TV series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/630">TS</a>]

00:10:32   as you're doing that came two thrones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/632">TS</a>]

00:10:33   because they give you a little time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/633">TS</a>]

00:10:34   delve into the side plots and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/634">TS</a>]

00:10:37   characters with their own things going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/637">TS</a>]

00:10:39   on there's a little more room to work on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/639">TS</a>]

00:10:41   something like that then there is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/641">TS</a>]

00:10:43   condense into a knot into a movie in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/643">TS</a>]

00:10:44   which you know it's two hours two and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/644">TS</a>]

00:10:46   half hours you've got to take stuff out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/646">TS</a>]

00:10:47   you gotta throw out an entire train [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/647">TS</a>]

00:10:50   these things that are the takeaway from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/650">TS</a>]

00:10:51   the main plot of the movie and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/651">TS</a>]

00:10:52   like that so I think there is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/652">TS</a>]

00:10:54   very interesting about adapting a short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/654">TS</a>]

00:10:56   story to movie as opposed to a novel it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/656">TS</a>]

00:10:59   really depends on the author to because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/659">TS</a>]

00:11:00   I mean even though this is a short story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/660">TS</a>]

00:11:02   it's not like a you know 20 pager like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/662">TS</a>]

00:11:04   some people short stories it's a Steven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/664">TS</a>]

00:11:06   articles in nova or whatever button and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/666">TS</a>]

00:11:08   Stephen King world short as you know 200 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/668">TS</a>]

00:11:10   pages 250 pages and that's just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/670">TS</a>]

00:11:12   right length for a movie i probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14   can't get away with going doing ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16   fifteen thirty pager into into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/676">TS</a>]

00:11:19   feature-length movie or for most longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/679">TS</a>]

00:11:21   short stories from throw authors that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/681">TS</a>]

00:11:23   tend to produce thousand-page books that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/683">TS</a>]

00:11:25   perfectly in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/685">TS</a>]

00:11:26   and speaking of thousand-page books that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/686">TS</a>]

00:11:28   is my my final selection here which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/688">TS</a>]

00:11:31   Lord of the Rings I you pick me first to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/691">TS</a>]

00:11:32   get the ticket before everybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/692">TS</a>]

00:11:34   now i'm a big fan of lord of the rings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/694">TS</a>]

00:11:36   books and for many years everyone you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/696">TS</a>]

00:11:38   know help Lord of the Rings up this as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/698">TS</a>]

00:11:40   series of books they're basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/700">TS</a>]

00:11:42   unfilmable because they just they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/702">TS</a>]

00:11:44   just too much in them too many settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/704">TS</a>]

00:11:46   too much magic stuff too expensive but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/706">TS</a>]

00:11:48   through the magic of computer technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/708">TS</a>]

00:11:51   suddenly the unfilmable became film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/711">TS</a>]

00:11:52   alone are within our lifetime and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/712">TS</a>]

00:11:54   gave it to a director who dedicated his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/714">TS</a>]

00:11:56   you know many years of his life to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/716">TS</a>]

00:11:59   and they got actors who were similarly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/719">TS</a>]

00:12:00   able to dedicate themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/720">TS</a>]

00:12:02   animated series of movies out of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/722">TS</a>]

00:12:04   they weren't terrible which is quite a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/724">TS</a>]

00:12:07   feat considering like all the Lord of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/727">TS</a>]

00:12:09   the Rings fans like all please don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/729">TS</a>]

00:12:10   feel miserable just be horrible you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/730">TS</a>]

00:12:12   just be destroying these books I to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/732">TS</a>]

00:12:14   them not terrible i think what they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/734">TS</a>]

00:12:16   to do is decide you know this is a giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/736">TS</a>]

00:12:19   1,500 pages for the text or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/739">TS</a>]

00:12:21   we're gonna have to pick some part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/741">TS</a>]

00:12:23   to concentrate on the movies and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/743">TS</a>]

00:12:24   picked to concentrate on the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/744">TS</a>]

00:12:26   works well in the movies big epic quest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/746">TS</a>]

00:12:28   battles 12 characters that you follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/748">TS</a>]

00:12:31   through the whole thing and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/751">TS</a>]

00:12:32   everything else got cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/752">TS</a>]

00:12:33   Tom Bombadil cut all the whimsical stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/753">TS</a>]

00:12:35   got cut all the you know how about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/755">TS</a>]

00:12:37   family stuff got cut all you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/757">TS</a>]

00:12:39   just cut mercilessly remove everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/759">TS</a>]

00:12:42   that is you know that people love about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/762">TS</a>]

00:12:43   the books but just does not work in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/763">TS</a>]

00:12:45   movie and dedicate themselves fully to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/765">TS</a>]

00:12:47   the epic quest and sam and frodo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/767">TS</a>]

00:12:49   doing the whole story on there are lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/769">TS</a>]

00:12:52   of problems with those movies and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/772">TS</a>]

00:12:53   of the choices I made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/773">TS</a>]

00:12:55   I don't really agree with if we ever do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/775">TS</a>]

00:12:56   a lot of the Rings episode we can talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/776">TS</a>]

00:12:57   about them but to their credit i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/777">TS</a>]

00:13:00   they made probably the best movie you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/780">TS</a>]

00:13:04   could have made especially in a first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06   attempt at making movies of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/786">TS</a>]

00:13:07   maybe if I live to be a ripe old age of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/787">TS</a>]

00:13:09   95 some will try to refill these movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/789">TS</a>]

00:13:11   and have a different take and do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/791">TS</a>]

00:13:13   better so that those are good movies to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/793">TS</a>]

00:13:14   the point where my wife said I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/794">TS</a>]

00:13:17   read the book because I everything time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/797">TS</a>]

00:13:19   you describe it to me I'm terrified and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/799">TS</a>]

00:13:21   I like the movies so that's good enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/801">TS</a>]

00:13:23   i don't need anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/803">TS</a>]

00:13:25   that's enough we have the expanded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/805">TS</a>]

00:13:26   additions and although this goes to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/806">TS</a>]

00:13:28   point that there's more story there it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/808">TS</a>]

00:13:30   a long book 2 or series books if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/810">TS</a>]

00:13:32   want to be with that way it so they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/812">TS</a>]

00:13:35   three movies and in fact there's a tit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/815">TS</a>]

00:13:37   like a 10-hour cut of the framing tables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/817">TS</a>]

00:13:39   too and we want we actually do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/819">TS</a>]

00:13:41   every every Christmas we sort of do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/821">TS</a>]

00:13:43   little Lord of the Rings festival we I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/823">TS</a>]

00:13:45   think we didn't do last year but but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/825">TS</a>]

00:13:47   we try to do it every holiday for six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/827">TS</a>]

00:13:50   nights basically it's a disco night and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/830">TS</a>]

00:13:52   and you make your own little mini series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/832">TS</a>]

00:13:53   basically and it's great because those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/833">TS</a>]

00:13:55   are a really really fun and well well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/835">TS</a>]

00:13:58   made movies and I got a very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00   feeling watching the movies and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/840">TS</a>]

00:14:02   reading the book so much so that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/842">TS</a>]

00:14:04   they're just they're barely related to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/844">TS</a>]

00:14:06   my mind because when i read the books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/846">TS</a>]

00:14:07   i'm thinking of like returning to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/847">TS</a>]

00:14:10   world and then getting into all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/850">TS</a>]

00:14:12   sort of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/852">TS</a>]

00:14:13   folklore and then whimsical stuff or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/853">TS</a>]

00:14:16   whatever and the movies are much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/856">TS</a>]

00:14:17   about an adventure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/857">TS</a>]

00:14:19   alright everyone more thing before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/859">TS</a>]

00:14:21   move on this is just in general love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/861">TS</a>]

00:14:24   when i was reading a book I guess couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26   years ago I was thinking about things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/866">TS</a>]

00:14:29   that you can do in books that you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/869">TS</a>]

00:14:30   do in movies and then it most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/870">TS</a>]

00:14:32   don't think about this think about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/872">TS</a>]

00:14:33   other way things you can do in movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/873">TS</a>]

00:14:34   that can't be done in books because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/874">TS</a>]

00:14:36   just got words when you've got pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/876">TS</a>]

00:14:37   you can do so much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/877">TS</a>]

00:14:38   so I was reading a deepness in the sky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/878">TS</a>]

00:14:41   by vernor vinge hope you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/881">TS</a>]

00:14:42   episode on him eventually you will and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/882">TS</a>]

00:14:45   about half of that book is spent on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/885">TS</a>]

00:14:49   this alien world where the spider aliens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/889">TS</a>]

00:14:51   are and there are characters there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/891">TS</a>]

00:14:53   you follow their just as important as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/893">TS</a>]

00:14:55   the human characters and these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/895">TS</a>]

00:14:56   characters have a work life and jobs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/896">TS</a>]

00:14:59   and friends and family and romance and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/899">TS</a>]

00:15:02   as a government and they have you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/902">TS</a>]

00:15:03   society and everything down there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/903">TS</a>]

00:15:06   then not the space you've got the humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/906">TS</a>]

00:15:08   and it's kind of a split 50-50 between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/908">TS</a>]

00:15:09   these two things parallel storylines and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/909">TS</a>]

00:15:13   then later in the book eventually the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/913">TS</a>]

00:15:15   humans go down onto the planet and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/915">TS</a>]

00:15:17   meet these elements of the first times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/917">TS</a>]

00:15:19   and it's the first time that you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/919">TS</a>]

00:15:22   narration from the humans point of view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/922">TS</a>]

00:15:24   of what they see when they see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/924">TS</a>]

00:15:26   aliens and what they see is just like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/926">TS</a>]

00:15:28   shiny exoskeleton and like legs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/928">TS</a>]

00:15:30   everywhere and hissing and clicking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/930">TS</a>]

00:15:32   little letting emotions from their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/932">TS</a>]

00:15:34   eyelids and everything going different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/934">TS</a>]

00:15:36   directions and at that point the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/936">TS</a>]

00:15:38   you realize that the point of view from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/938">TS</a>]

00:15:42   the spiderlings for the whole rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/942">TS</a>]

00:15:44   the book you're everything was being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/944">TS</a>]

00:15:46   translated into human terms for you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/946">TS</a>]

00:15:48   know they didn't say in it when you when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/948">TS</a>]

00:15:51   they were describing the spider world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/951">TS</a>]

00:15:52   that the spider wave it slant na and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/952">TS</a>]

00:15:54   made this clicking noise around like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/954">TS</a>]

00:15:55   they just they just played out as if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/955">TS</a>]

00:15:57   there were humans and it made you relate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/957">TS</a>]

00:15:59   to them and only when the two things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/959">TS</a>]

00:16:00   come together do you realize how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/960">TS</a>]

00:16:01   incredibly alien these things are how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/961">TS</a>]

00:16:04   different they are from humans even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/964">TS</a>]

00:16:06   though from the spiders perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/966">TS</a>]

00:16:08   everything is normal from the human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/968">TS</a>]

00:16:09   perspective that just horrible hideous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/969">TS</a>]

00:16:11   creatures you know and this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/971">TS</a>]

00:16:14   moment you can't have a moment like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/974">TS</a>]

00:16:15   in a movie because either you show the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/975">TS</a>]

00:16:17   spiders from the very beginning as being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/977">TS</a>]

00:16:20   hideous spider aliens who don't speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/980">TS</a>]

00:16:21   and don't have normal language don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/981">TS</a>]

00:16:23   have normal gestures and you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/983">TS</a>]

00:16:25   you've already doing mid smells or wave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/985">TS</a>]

00:16:27   their tentacles around or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/987">TS</a>]

00:16:29   tennis whatever or you show them humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/989">TS</a>]

00:16:32   instead of spiders and then when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/992">TS</a>]

00:16:34   reveal that there spiders you know then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/994">TS</a>]

00:16:36   that the audience feels like it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/996">TS</a>]

00:16:37   cheat you know you could try to use some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/997">TS</a>]

00:16:39   sort of visual device to to say how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/999">TS</a>]

00:16:41   know you were showing them as humans to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:43   not put you off of them but really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:44   they're spiders the whole time and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:47   audience would not like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:48   so this lack of visuals in the book was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:51   not going to hide the fact that spiders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:52   in the book right from the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:53   they said yeah these are spider aliens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:55   and they just go on and draw you into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:56   the lives of these spider aliens the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:59   fact that there's no pictures constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:01   reminding you that these are spider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:02   aliens allows the book to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:05   you could never do in the movie because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:06   it doesn't have any pictures in at home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:08   and that one particular scene i was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:10   first time I realized that there was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:12   know something that besides length and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:15   you detail and stuff that you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:17   just because books are so much longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:18   than then the movies that you can do in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:20   books you actually can't do movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:22   because they lack pictures and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:24   my favorite moments of that that book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:26   there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:27   yeah and I i do think it is unfilmable a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:30   good story though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:31   yeah i mean that's on film over for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:35   other reasons too but but just for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:37   the spider aliens humanity thing just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:40   would not work i'm screaming there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:42   way to pull it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:43   you've got to stop right with that oh no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:46   it's not gonna happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:48   dan do you have a recommendation or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:51   of good adaptations i was looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:55   casting my sort of eyes over my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:56   bookshelf as I was sitting here trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:58   to think which of these books have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1078">TS</a>]

00:17:59   made into movies and and some of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:00   have actually there are several on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:03   bookshelf that are due to be made into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:05   movies which I'm interested to see but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:07   most of the ones that I'm coming up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:09   are not science fiction or fantasy books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:11   but like things like mysteries and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:13   another other sort of genre books and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:15   and so I feel you know I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:17   maybe it's a cheap but a one of my one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:19   of my favorite books by one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:21   favorite authors is the big sleep by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:24   raymond chandler which is a fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:26   mystery book circa nineteen forties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:29   leaving the 39 maybe was written it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:33   made into a movie in 46 with Humphrey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:35   Bogart and Lauren Bacall and it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:38   absolutely fantastic movie of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:40   absolute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:40   a fantastic book and i think it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:43   hard you'd be hard-pressed to do an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:46   adaptation maybe that's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:47   there's something about that that's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:49   much related to the time in which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:50   written or filmed but i feel like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:52   know it would be hard to do a modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:54   adaptation of today or to do it well but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:57   there's there's something that's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:59   challenge I think in many ways because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:01   the plot of a of something like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:04   Raymond Chandler mystery well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06   mysteries you often often think of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:07   as being related to the plot but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:09   such a big appeal from Chandler is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:11   language and you know as much as you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:13   translate some of that into dialogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:15   there's so much stuff that doesn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:17   me doesn't make that jump like John was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:19   saying like the you know unless you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:21   a voiceover narration which lends a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:24   whole different quality to your movie as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:26   you know anybody who's watched three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:28   different versions of blade runner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:29   wallet asked me if I may have stopped my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:31   short story or yeah actually or is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:33   an oval exactly what the ball two novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:36   i read I've read it Irene yes I've as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:38   well it seems like a shorter than shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:40   at redemption but I mean something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:43   that in terms of you know it's hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:45   film something like that relies so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:48   on on the pros right it's hard to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:51   great translation of that and yet the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:53   movie ends up being you know quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:55   gripping in its in its own way and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:59   that's that's one example of something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:01   that I that I quite enjoyed I'm trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:05   again I'm coming up with all this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:06   I feel like that that i really like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:08   is not did that is sort of out of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:10   DIY I've got an honor and my list too so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:13   don't have that so ok so altar and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:15   a couple of adaptations of works by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:18   corner with a salon y 0 0 which was we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:22   can't i can i'm going to 1 i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:24   say hi fidelity and we said about a boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:26   then because which is also also a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:29   movie yes an excellent movie and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:31   excellent book yeah and so again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:33   hornby someone else who's writing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:35   such a huge like you know he's got great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:37   prose absolutely really knows how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:39   craft a sentence as hard to make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:41   transition to film because you know his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:45   plots good news characters are good too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:46   which is what makes the film you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:48   about a boy so good you know enjoyable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:52   yeah but at the same time you you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:53   oh there's it's a totally different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:54   experience reading the book and so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:57   think i read the book after i had seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:58   the movie and you know there is that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:02   you're talking with your wife you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:03   there's that the disparities like wow I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:05   like the movie I mean maybe I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:07   book but you know my just gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:08   picturing the same characters and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:10   for me it was totally you know totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:12   different experience you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:14   yes it was a story although it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:17   same story and the same characters it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:19   feels like something it feels like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:23   different telling of the story of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:25   well they understand there are also some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:26   changes in the in the movement from from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:29   the book and likewise high-fidelity I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:30   mean first off and set in Chicago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:32   instead of in London and they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:34   there are other things about it that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:35   very different but in the same in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:38   same way i think both of those movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:39   have the have a sort of spirit of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:42   book and the heart of the book is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:44   where it should be and as a result they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:46   both work even though i'm a huge fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:49   his work and of those books and I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:51   didn't feel offended by the changes they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:54   made because I felt like they were they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:55   were smart changes made for adapting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:58   to a different medium which i Ken saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:00   that they respect the spirit i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:02   really important like they do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:03   somehow fit totally with with what he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:06   the story he's generally tell and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:07   would love to see he's written at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:09   three other books that i think would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:11   just excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:12   you know adaptations including a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:15   way down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:15   slam which always I'm gonna be great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:19   yeah and a podcast and his most recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:21   one Juliet naked which is a great just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:24   great lackeys an expert at crafting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:27   stories and and like like John saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:31   let's even kinghorn we can tell a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:32   story and I think that that have really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:34   helps when you're translating something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:36   from from page to screen trying to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:40   if there's one other thing on my so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:42   actually I'm going to let me let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:44   branch off of something you said there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:45   which is we're talking about these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:46   movies that made changes to the book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:47   i think it's worth at least touching on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:50   for a minute there can be adaptations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:52   that fail because they honor the source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:54   material too much and I think there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:56   medications that are successful because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:58   they don't know is whether the slavish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:02   adaptation right is yeah is a problem in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:06   some ways if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:07   if hearing so closely to the weather of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:09   the book that you miss a book is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:12   movie right you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:13   fundamentally two different forms like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:15   Dom saying there's things you can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:16   in a movie that you can do in a book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:18   vice versa and so you know if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:21   trying to get here so closely then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:23   loses it's like trying to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25   photocopy and you know you might get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27   sort of some of the fidelity but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:29   make a photocopy of a painting or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:30   something you know it's not you you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:33   trying to reproduce it so exactly that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:35   you're you lose something of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:37   original in that and and I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:40   you know best when you put it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:42   hands of somebody who's really an artist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:44   in their own particular you know media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:47   right I think that's case number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:50   item number one on the case against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:51   watchman is that is that he tried so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:55   hard to be faithfully you know including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:57   shot-by-shot recreations of panels and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1437">TS</a>]

00:24:00   in the end the most interesting thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:02   that movie and I don't think it's as bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:03   as most people think it is but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:06   enough saying parts of it are terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:07   but um but the most interesting thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:09   the entire movie I think that everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:10   seems to like is the opening credits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:12   where he does something different that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:15   fits the medium that he's in even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:17   he's telling the same story and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:19   opening credit montage is fantastic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:21   then you know but the rest of that movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:23   is with the exception of trying to fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:25   the the the ending which is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:27   broken in the original to its it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:31   it's honoring the the gravity which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:34   great and i love it so much so that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:37   think it stifles the movie i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:39   actually kills it and that is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:41   great you know example of that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:43   thing although it's going from film to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:44   film is Gus Van Sant's attempt to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:47   shop by shop remake of psycho which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:49   totally loses the thread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:53   I mean you know again what you're trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:55   to it there's a question of why but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:57   there's also a well clearly there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:59   something going out going on in you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:01   something on you know intangible going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:04   on in the original if you can copy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:05   shot-by-shot and you go from making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07   one of the like best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:09   you know thriller movies ever 21 works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:13   throughout the movies ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:14   clearly there's something that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:16   missing there and I think that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:18   danger of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:19   adapting a visual story to another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:22   visual medium right because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:24   graphic novels you have you can see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:26   so you're tempted I imagine I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:29   made it with me but I would imagine that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:30   I would be tempted i love this graphic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:32   novel so much I want to take like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:34   guys already laid out what it looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:36   so i can take that and just make it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:38   my movie and it should be perfect and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:41   sadly it is not that's kind of us are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:43   called because like at this point comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:46   especially about time watch men are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:47   being influenced by cinema so it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:49   it's a circle around where people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:50   putting in comic panels cinematic points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:53   of view or things that they've seen in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:55   movies and then that gets fed back into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:57   a movie that gets fed back into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1557">TS</a>]

00:25:58   comic books that are there are certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1558">TS</a>]

00:25:59   things that are standard for comic books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:01   things that are standard forms but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:02   this point they're so mixed up that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:05   like it for someone who hadn't read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:06   group The Watchmen graphic novel and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:08   saw the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:09   sometimes I could pick out obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:11   they doing that thing where they picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:12   a cell from that you know frame from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:14   comic book and they're doing on screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:16   but other points i could totally not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:17   telling only later when i went through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19   the graphic novel that I see how that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21   actually something from the novel i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:22   sure that was just something that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:24   put in the movie because it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:25   cinematic and and what I see in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:28   comic books like a freeze frame from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:30   movie instead of vice versa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:31   huh that's a good point that's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:34   point just got what about you do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36   have some sterling examples of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:38   adaptations for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:40   well sterling I don't know about butBut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:42   fun yes so and this one I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:45   it was going to Ruth you're not but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:47   did enjoy the most recent hitchhiker's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:50   guide to the galaxy movie which I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:54   get very good reviews and I heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56   someone say you so that was maybe as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:58   may be alone in this but i think yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:01   didn't I didn't I didn't load that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:02   don't think I felt badly about it is as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04   other people do but I you know it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:05   a perfect movie but I was disappointed I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:07   was disappointed by it more than and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:09   it's not love the source material so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11   much it did have its moments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13   that's why I enjoyed the moments I any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:16   movie that starts with dolphins singing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18   a song it's really okay in my book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:21   and so it can only go up from there or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:24   guess down from there you had never read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:25   a book do you think you would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:27   enjoyed the movie at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:28   I probably not i think that i love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:32   books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:32   much that it gained a halo effect and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:35   the because you know what they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:37   like they did select this seemed like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:39   was like selected scenes from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:40   hitchhiker's guide and if you ever read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:42   the whole thing the selected seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:44   oh yeah I remember that party during a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:45   movie now I look at it in a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:47   part you know but there was simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:49   didn't you know i can see that another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:51   example of a book that it you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:53   could argue is unfilmable and of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:55   you know maybe nothing's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:56   unfilmable in this day and age but again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:59   there's something so in eight in in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:02   way the Adams writes that well and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:05   the BBC series miniseries isn't it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:08   know is I think better you know tied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:12   into the well the novel that material is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:15   too long for a movie and the other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:16   is it's like then was saying that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:19   transitions in the book from one Rico's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:21   think the next happen because of douglas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:24   adams writing so he brings you from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:26   know 1 plus the other unless you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:27   going to translate his writing directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:29   into a voiceover and do it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:30   long-running miniseries this you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:32   visually transition from one set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:35   events together without Douglas Adam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:37   writing you through it tonight is toss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:39   up the guide in most cases and have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:41   guide you know and and that can work or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:43   not that happens in the in the TV series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:45   the BBC TV series as well we're all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:48   sudden you're back in the guide and I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:49   think of the movie they they they did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:51   pretty interesting job of trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:53   weave the hitchhiker's guide itself into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:55   the into the story but i suppose it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:57   might make no sense if you haven't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:58   the book and it takes you out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:00   movie experience that once you once even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:02   let us probably voiceover is there any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:04   sort of thing where you have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:05   title card right you're taking me out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:06   the cinematic experience and saying now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:08   we're going to read your blog and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:09   we're going to take your buddy Silver's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:10   yeah i mean this the shawshank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:12   redemption has voiceover I mean like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:14   know there is there yet but it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:16   time in place for them but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:18   voice-over is not from the book the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:19   voice-over is a device to make the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:21   work it's not like show crazy scene then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:24   grabbed three power is out of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:26   and put them up on the screen as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:27   voice-over and then show another crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:29   see you know but i think i think what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:31   they were trying to do in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:32   hitchhiker's movie is something it as i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:36   recall having only seen once something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:38   almost more like I like what they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:41   scott pilgrim where it's it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:43   trying to be kind of this overlay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:46   multiple you know where modern people we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:49   multitask and here's this crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:50   hitchhiker's guide because in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:51   the hitchhiker's guide as a concept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:53   makes more sense now than it did then in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:55   a way it's more real because we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:57   like Wikipedia and iPads and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1797">TS</a>]

00:29:59   that it's true and and so I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:02   think of it as like a at least in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:04   movie they kind of get like a pop-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:06   video kind of thing right so they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:08   be the the entry and hitchhiker's guide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:10   that Stephen Fry would read because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:12   was the voice of the trackers got in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14   movie was related to whatever action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:17   maybe not directly but in some way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:20   was happening in the movie so kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:21   gay and not you know i know this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:23   is not great but I enjoyed it so it kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:26   of gave people who haven't read the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:28   an idea of what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:29   all right at least that's what they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:31   trying any other suggestions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:34   Scott well i will suggest i only like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:38   this movie because i hated the book so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:40   much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:41   ah so I i will say harry potter i enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:44   the movie much more than I enjoyed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:46   book did you watch other harry potter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:48   movies i have watched all the harry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:50   potter movie is a matter of fact and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:52   refuse to read any of the books after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:54   the first one very interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:56   Scott and I to harry potter haters who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:58   have all seen all the movies it's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:01   I like Harry Potter even though I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:05   to admit this as i'm reading them out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:07   loud to my kids that she's really not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:09   very good writer she's a good thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:11   world builder and you can you know she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:14   good world builder and that comes across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:16   the movies and she I think she gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:20   better as a writer as she goes along she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:25   clearly learns are inherently podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27   talking talking about i think it does i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:29   think I hydrated editor more later but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:32   she's a better writer i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:34   it's this weird thing where she got less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:36   editing because she was famous but she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:37   was also actually working hard writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:40   these huge books and was just it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:42   getting better at her craft as she went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44   which is weird so she ended up being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:46   kind of like need still needing an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:47   editor but clearly being better what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:50   she's doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:51   then she was at the beginning but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:53   world building is great and that leads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:55   to these great movies that are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:56   fun because there is some so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:59   interesting stuff to base the movie on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:01   because it's she's got a plot and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:03   got an interesting world which is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:05   source material for a movie i was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:08   to hold these movies up as an example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:11   even though i haven't read the books as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:13   an example of movies that suffered from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:16   being too faithful for the book not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:19   they took everything that was in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:21   books and put it in there but they felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:22   the need to us at all we gotta have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:25   element X so we gotta have character why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:26   are we going to have elements see and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:28   they they did that too much they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:29   cut enough so what you end up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:31   especially for someone who hasn't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:32   the book and especially in later movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:34   are these movies where it's like Andrew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:36   this this character in this plot point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:38   and don't forget about this character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:39   this plot point and by the way this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:40   character this plot point and we'll hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:41   about this backstory but now it was too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:43   many little things that were to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:45   jointed because they could not bear to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:47   not have this thing in the movie when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:49   really to make a better movie you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:50   have cut those characters combined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:52   characters into one you know maybe I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:54   can see why you're saying that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:56   having read the books they actually do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:59   lot of that that I didn't have enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:00   they threw I think through as much out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:03   as they thought they could get away with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:04   a couldn't like combined characters for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:06   example but I I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:08   having just seen one of these the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10   day we my kids saw the fourth one for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12   the first time because we're watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14   them after we read the books and boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:16   they they did a lot of compression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:18   compression which was good because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:19   a really long book and a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:21   stuff could just get tossed out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:22   whole subplots get tossed out and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:24   get shortened down and simplified and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:26   you know what they couldn't actually did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:29   a pretty good job of the plot resolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:32   at the end because the book has got two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:33   chapters of just painful plot exposition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:36   at the end was like let me explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:38   everything that's been happening behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:39   the scenes while this entire book went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41   on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:41   it's so awful and in the movie it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:44   handled much more straightforwardly my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:46   wife was telling me that the big problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:48   from respect that because she's at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:49   basically Harry Potter scholar at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:51   point the box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:52   the big problem was that they started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:54   filming the movies before the books were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:56   done so because they didn't know where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:57   this series we're going they didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:59   what was important and by the time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:01   get three or four movies in you like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:03   didn't even show this in movies 1 and 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:04   because we didn't think it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:05   important but now in book five and six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07   becomes super important and now we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:09   to fill you know backfill i read an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:12   article on anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:13   weekly a few years back but said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:15   they actually had a few questions like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:16   that road and JK Rowling approves all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:19   the screenplays and she actually gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:21   them note saying no you can't get rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:23   this character here because they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25   important later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:26   even though she hadn't written and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:28   published all the books yet she knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:29   where the plot was going so they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:33   some of that at least where she was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:34   no no you can't take that out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:37   someone could have been worse but from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:39   it from my wife's percentage and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:40   that's what I'm saying it could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:41   been less interested there's the matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:44   of this week's podcast it could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:45   been worse along along those lines are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:49   really similar genre any-to-any CS lewis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:53   fans yeah I was a kid I read all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:56   books I mean I i really have a fun spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:58   for some of the books though going back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2098">TS</a>]

00:34:59   and reread them at you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:01   slightly older you know there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:03   there's a different reading you get when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:05   you have an adult reading I totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:06   missed the whole thing about ashlynn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:08   being Jesus yeah I think I i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:11   probably as it has a war you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:12   child of a family that didn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:14   know go to church have much in the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:16   of religious upbringing that totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:18   flew over my head as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:19   that said I still think Lewis is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:22   storyteller and several books on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:24   own are excellent excellent stories i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:28   mean the voyage of the dawn treader i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:29   have not seen the movie which is came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:30   out but you're like last year i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:33   but that book remains you know I'm very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:35   a it I idea has a very fond memory for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:38   me because it's very me and then later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:40   you know comparing with other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:42   that reminds me very much of something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:43   like The Odyssey and it's got this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:45   sort of a whole plot about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:48   going on this this lengthy boat ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:51   with all these adventures and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:52   that and i thought i only saw the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54   of the movies which was okay i think to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:58   a certain extent they do fall into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:00   trap of trying to remain a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:01   too faithful and and it comes across as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:04   somewhat bloodless yeah diversity there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:07   there are some good points in it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:11   there are some nice performances in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:14   you know a couple things elements that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:16   really did like but on the whole yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:20   does come across as a little bit too i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:23   don't know just maybe just a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:24   too bloodless and I did not see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:27   I heard the second one was better I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:28   didn't see it for a second was better on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:30   my I'm asking i say i was gonna say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:33   hit it right on the nose with blood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:34   listen that the first movie was the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:36   of them in terms of building the world's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:40   feel alive and making it feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:41   there's something at stake in making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:42   care about the characters in the red the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:44   second was their third movie I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:46   know if I've seen all them but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:47   the third they get progressively more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:49   generic and just nothing is at stake and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:53   you're not really excited about anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:55   that is going through the motions yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:56   that I'd argue that the best of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:58   books maybe the ones that are tangential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:00   to thats whole series which are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:03   horse and his boy and the magician's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:05   nephew in that they sort of they aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:08   about the characters that we follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:09   through the first three or four books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:11   and they kind of stand on their own a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:14   little better so i don't know if they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:16   get around you know if it was i suppose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:17   as long as those movies keep making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:19   money than they keep making them but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:21   don't know if they'll get around to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:22   those because they don't follow the sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:24   of main plot right so I've got I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:29   some things to speak of positively iíve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31   actually i'm slightly cheating i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:33   children's book a a non jon renau novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:38   and a graphic novel that I'll mention in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:40   turn the children's book is The Iron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:43   Giant based on the iron man i love this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:48   movie and you know at some point movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50   had some point we could even when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52   talk about children's movies which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:53   think we're going to do I can I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:55   rhapsodize about it more but i love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:56   movie I think it's a great movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:58   it's brad bird before he went to Pixar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:01   and made the incredibles and ratatouille [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:02   he made the Iron Giant and it sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:04   sticked at the box office but gosh it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:06   a great movie and and based on a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:10   know some source material that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:11   little bit different but a beloved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:13   children's book called the Ironman and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:16   so iron giant i think is a great example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:19   of again you've got a you've got a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:22   with illustrations and a story but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:24   not a particular you know it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:25   children's novel and then it's expanded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:29   on and and made into this great movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:33   I got ya i'm actually just getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:35   goosebumps when you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:36   just because I'm remembering the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:37   is such a great movie today and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:39   especially the you know the the climax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:43   in the end of that room gets a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:44   dusty at the end of that movie so it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:46   it is a little eyes get along bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:48   yes oh yeah it's it's well done though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:50   it's a very good movie i only saw it I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:52   first saw the movie just a few years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:55   I mean it came out when the nineties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:57   it's literally old i think i was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2337">TS</a>]

00:39:00   teenager or something when it came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:01   but I'm i saw just a few years ago and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:04   really I just really adored it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:07   movie and it features the the vocal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:10   stylings of hair country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:12   yeah generate jennifer aniston and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:14   commentaries elad the iron giant beast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:17   was the iron giant that's right a role [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19   he was our-our 1999 that that film came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:23   out another one that i love and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:26   talked about this earlier when I grabbed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:28   Dan high-fidelity unicorn be one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:31   favorite writers i love this movie to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:34   this is actually and and i love the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36   and they are different but you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:38   it's hearts in the right place the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:40   characters are strong john cusack is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42   exactly as much of a an idiot who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:47   got a lot to learn about life and about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:49   his relationship with other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:51   especially women and just does a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:54   job eh you know i think it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:57   great performance by him great direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2397">TS</a>]

00:39:59   by stephen frears of interesting so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:02   English director reset the movie into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:04   America and then have an English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:05   director love that movie I and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:08   one of those movies that i can watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:09   again and again and and and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:12   really liked it even though they made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:13   bunch of changes to it it's still really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:15   is holds up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:17   yeah and-and-and I'd hasn't changed my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:19   feelings about the book the book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:20   great the movies great they're a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:22   different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:22   they're both great and for the in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:26   graphic novel category i mentioned watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:30   men being a bit of a failure I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:34   to turn it around with another alan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:35   moore selection which is V for Vendetta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:37   which I really love it hits hits me just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:43   write it i really like that movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:46   I interesting affecting has some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:49   interesting things to say I think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:51   politics without being too preachy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:54   actually think that you can view it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:55   bunch of different ways and I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:57   makes them interesting statements about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:59   totality arianism ended yet it's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:01   1984 kind of vibe and a lot of nods to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:05   1984 it right down to the fact that John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:07   Hurt is in it who was in the movie 1984 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:10   and I've got the graphic novel and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:14   graphic novel is good but i think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:18   did a good job and in in translating it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:20   and and you know it it's easy to mess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:25   something like this up as watch Ben I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:27   think showed and I don't think they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:29   with the fervent vendetta in fact if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:31   view this it was directed by james [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:32   McTeague but it was produced by the wash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:34   house keys and if you view this through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:36   the lens of how how bad the matrix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:39   sequels were what-what-what matrix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:41   sequels if you view anything through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:44   that lens looks better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:45   that's that's true i think we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:49   talk about bad movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:51   let's get negative that's all i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53   think about who's all right I'll aalam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:56   i'm going to start and say that one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   the mood one of the books that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:00   actually have always enjoyed and was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:02   of my favorite books when I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:03   teenager is arthur c Clark's sequel to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:07   his novel 2001 called 2010 and I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:12   liked that book it's got a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:13   interesting stuff in it some interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:15   characters some interesting stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:16   happens and then they made the movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:18   it's not just the peter hyams is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:21   Stanley Kubrick but that movie is is bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:26   it's bad in lots of ways it takes some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:29   liberties when it shouldn't and then is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:32   devoted to the story in ways that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:34   shouldn't be and omits the best scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:38   which kills me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:39   probably for budgetary reasons the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:42   scene the scene that sticks with me more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:44   than any other the scene that gave me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:45   chills when I read when I reread it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:49   new year's eve 2010 I i spent a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:54   hours and i reread some of the novel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:58   I didn't they just didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2578">TS</a>]

00:42:59   they took it all out they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:01   try to film it or even mention it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:02   just took it all out butchered bad movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:05   enjoyable book think it's a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:08   reputation sequels the other sequels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:11   aren't as good but i really enjoyed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:13   book i think it was interesting to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:14   arthur c clarke kind of reclaim his part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:16   of the story separate from the movie but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:20   then they made a movie and a big mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:22   and bad movie and it came out within a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:24   couple weeks of dune by the way at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:26   point they were both playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:27   side-by-side in my local local adduplex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:30   movie house in the small town that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:33   grew up in I I you you remind me this by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:38   mentioning Eleanor and alan moore of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:40   course you famously does not want his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:43   name on any movie that is made out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:45   his his comic books but i will say keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:46   the league of extraordinary gentlemen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:49   it's a pretty good comic book on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:50   narrowboat movie that is one of the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:54   of the worst movies i may have ever seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:56   in a movie theater and again not for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2636">TS</a>]

00:44:01   lack mean not for lack of trying in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:03   ways I mean I do love to have a special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:05   place in my heart for Sean Connery and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:07   yet he does not that is not a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:10   revision in any way shape or form and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:13   Alan Moore's is right to have taken his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:16   name off of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:17   Scott can you be negative now I can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:21   negative so I i have to preface this by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23   saying that uh when I was younger I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:27   would follow I still do this I fall into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:29   certain moods and i obsessively read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:33   certain authors or genres and so at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:36   point i came across one of l ron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:38   Hubbard's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:40   he wants fiction writer before he was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:43   founder of a religion and I get your but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:47   you're not going to believe this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:48   scott but before I was deciding whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:50   i wanted to mention battlefield earth or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:52   let you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:53   ah really serious i wrote it down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:56   battlecruiser is a battlefield earth is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:58   going exactly the book it's i read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:01   book and I mean it's not a great piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:02   of literature but I'll ron Hubbard is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:05   not a great writer but he's a pulp you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:07   know a pulp sci-fi writer so his books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:09   are fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:10   I'm i Dianetics in those books are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:13   different kind of literature so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:17   battlefield earth as a book is a fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:18   book it's really long and then you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:21   John Travolta who is a devout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:24   Scientologist who wants to bring you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:27   know l ron Hubbard's masterpiece to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:30   through the screen right and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:32   speaking of slavish devotion to the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:34   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:35   he just films this i think it was 16 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:38   hours long movie that is just awful only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:42   seemed like it was that like that that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:43   tried to watch that movie in and just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:47   make fun of it with friends cars we end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:50   usually that goes pretty well we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:52   couldn't get through like however it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:54   so terrible that movie is so bad you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:56   can't even make promises i watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:58   whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2758">TS</a>]

00:45:58   no you know so bad it's funny this is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:00   bad it's funny that you haven't murdered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:02   yourself exactly i would be bad i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:08   not recommend that he would watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:09   battlefield [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:10   yeah no don't don't just hit you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:13   say to yourself well get the rifftrax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:14   and about no no don't it's not worth it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:17   read the book the book isn't all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:19   great but it's much better than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:20   movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:21   well he wasn't you know he was a pulp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:22   sci-fi writer before he was a founder of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:25   a religion and and its trip that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:28   he could do fun stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:29   yeah i mean i read a lot of his books he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:31   wrote a ten-part series mission earth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:34   which I read which is a lot of fun i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:36   hope John Travolta does not make any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:38   mission of movies i would i would i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:41   would like to see somebody going in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:42   other direction start religion and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:45   become a pulp science fiction author you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:47   know if Jesus is written top science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:49   fiction for example might have very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:51   different out he went under the sun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:53   under the pen-name ass land oh wait a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:57   second I see what you did there come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2817">TS</a>]

00:47:00   back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:02   that may be the worst movie ever made by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:04   anyone in the United I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:07   they made it all the way down the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:09   of the AMD bottom 100 but I about pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:11   sure it's in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:12   I'm just trying to think of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:13   terrible movies made throughout history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:14   and and imagining if they were novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:16   sprite it's like the guy the guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:18   wrote geely not always ago they messed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:20   up my book and read everything through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22   and my book the guy who wrote the novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:25   from Justin to Kelly he must be furious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:27   when they made that well that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:29   allergy or didn't want his name on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:31   movie because there's a great comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:34   now I mean well yeah but they took out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:37   the swamp thing entirely when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:38   remade this from Justin to Kelly it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:40   shame it did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:42   yeah I believe Justin he was the floor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:45   onic man in the original comic think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:48   that I think that's right yes starship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:50   troopers is also another movie that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:53   think not out clearly not as bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:56   battlefield earth i know i like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:57   movie I I don't have to analyze and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2877">TS</a>]

00:48:00   starship troopers it's it's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:03   though because in some ways it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:05   very antithetical I think point compared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:08   to the book like there's a movie that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:10   was made that has a you know kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:13   almost the opposite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:15   yes I don't think that looking i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:16   it's i think it's just morally I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:18   it's more of a satire and ave potatoes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:21   au gratin potatoes so far in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:23   direction like it takes an earnest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:26   message and does it even more earnestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:29   to the point you're like okay no one can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:31   be this earnest this must be a sad time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:32   right so right but i think i like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:34   think that I'm yeah I think that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:36   point right exactly i mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:37   highlands very serious about what he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:39   what he was talking about in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:40   you know the military whereas the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:42   know clearly the movie I mean get no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:44   farther than dressing up Neil Patrick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:46   Harris not basically a Nazi help like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:49   not all right you're making a point here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:50   yeah its memory is it's not a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:55   movie and someone's going to great movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:57   i like it because i like it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:58   Jughead to watch that movie think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:01   about how awesome the army if that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:02   favorite thing for me about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:03   propagates it's a satire that most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:05   people don't view as a sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:06   that's the most successful kind because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:08   you'll see tons of people like starship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:09   troopers is awesome man with those bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:11   and shoot them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:12   that's what the majority of the public i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:14   feel thinks about when they see starship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:16   troopers and i just missed the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:17   rest of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:18   one that i wanted to mention the golden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:21   compass anyone read that I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:24   available feel successful a movie that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:27   they didn't go on and make the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:28   that movie was awful and the book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:31   delightful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:32   I've heard I've heard that those those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:33   books are actually very good and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:35   been meaning to read those books I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:37   think they're they're deeply deeply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:39   flawed and and i think that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:41   first book there there's some great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:43   stuff in there but I that first book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:46   really problematic and I think they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:49   the movie wasn't any good either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:50   although it did have giant armored polar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:52   bears fighting at one point which if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:54   there's anything redeeming in that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:55   that movie it was that true about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:58   books like SuperDuper anti-religion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:00   that's why the movies were no good if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:02   that's the case because you can make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:03   movie that sense of religion because no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:04   one will go see it but apparently you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:06   can make a series of fantasy books and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:08   while auntie organized religion and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:10   people buy them yeah there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:14   stuff in that movie in those books that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:15   is this kind of I mean I you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:17   won't say that it wasn't successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:19   because it didn't sell but because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:21   there's up there's a problem with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:22   plot and character isn't he an issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:23   okay so it's not it's not necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:25   that it's preachy about what it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:27   well I think it's poorly i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:28   poorly written in some ways there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:29   there's some stuff that's not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:31   it's just there are some stuff in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:33   in those books that is is quite sloppy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:35   from a writing perspective in my opinion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:37   Scott did you like the books i did like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:39   the books I i don't recall anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:41   happened didn't but when i was on home i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:44   did enjoy them actually just a hypnotic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:47   suggestion that you will feel refreshed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:49   and enjoy the enjoyed the books accepted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:52   no actual plot no plot and I I the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:57   movies was awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3057">TS</a>]

00:50:58   the book was not all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:02   alright there's a lot of that there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:03   that there are more bad applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:05   than good adaptations for I think screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:08   there more but they're more bad movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:10   then there are good movies i think two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:11   is anyone seen screamers there's a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:15   movie based on and philip k dick short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:18   story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:20   philip k dick is really a and I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:23   rifle through every single thing he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:24   written now and turn it into a movie i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:26   think with with varying degrees of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:27   success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:28   yes right blade runner one ball total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:33   recall you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:34   Blade Runner is a good example of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36   taking taking a book are novel and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:40   making a movie that has the same title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:41   but had never entitled call you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:45   mean that we wanted android your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:47   electrical work if that but you know to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:49   me it's it's based on a novel but has so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:52   little to do with it that so level and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:54   that book are so far apart in tone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:57   message in plot in characters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3117">TS</a>]

00:52:00   everything is just like I guess you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:02   inspired by the everybody only dick the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:06   total total recall is interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:08   because there was this there is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:11   novella that turned into the movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:14   then the movie had a tie-in novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:16   novelization of course and also have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:19   that by piers anthony oh so from philip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:23   k dick you go all the way back and rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:25   adjusting it to me you know that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:27   is it secure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:30   you know so before we go I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:32   mention a novelization speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:36   novelizations that that I loved when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:38   was a teenager that was just a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:41   novelization so going back the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:42   direction which is one of my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:45   movies and Star Trek to and i bought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:47   novelization of that which is by vonda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:49   mcintyre who's won the hugo awards and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:51   there's a very good writer and I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:54   probably if I went back and read it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:56   I'd be deeply disappointed but I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:57   that thing like two or three times and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:59   it was a really good book largely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:01   because she expanded the screenplay into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:05   a novel's worth of of stuff it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:08   the reverse of what we were saying about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:09   harry potter where you have to throw a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:11   bunch of stuff out she's sort of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:13   know in star trek to when they go down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:14   to the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:15   the space station that's orbiting around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17   the asteroid they find all the dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:19   bodies hanging in there and it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:22   like oh those guys who were in that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:23   scene earlier in the background now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:25   they're dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:26   well whatever and in the novel they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:28   like all of these scenes with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:29   characters and their the scientists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:30   they're trying to figure out this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:31   problem and then they're running and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:33   they're trying to escape from con before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:34   he kills them all and they get ma died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:36   and they're coming up and it's very sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:38   and so every now and then I I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:41   at least when I was a when I was younger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:43   readers movie novelizations and most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:45   them were very bad but that was pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:47   good and I've got on my bookshelf here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:49   but still haven't read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:50   the out-of-print abyss novelization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:53   which is by orson scott card which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:55   actually supposed to be not actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:56   supposed to be not bad but strange and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:59   and I and I believe long out-of-print [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:02   which ice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:03   I may be the only person in the world to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:05   own a copy of the novelization of Hudson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:09   Hawk which was given to me by an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:13   ex-girlfriend who worked in a bookstore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:14   because she found it one day and onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16   that was book section that i have not I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:18   have not cracked it open but it the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:20   that they novelized that music to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:22   like who is the audience but because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:25   only liked it you know I wanted a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:26   people like the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:27   most people didn't like the movie and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:29   seems unlikely with novelizations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:31   fascinating Marco they thought people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:32   would like it right you gotta be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:33   gotta say this is gonna be a hit we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:35   gonna have a novelization out there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:37   can change novel is it novelizations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:39   fascinate me because they say look we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:42   think you're unlikely to watch the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:44   or something or you either you enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:47   the movie or we think you're unlikely to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:48   watch it but like what person says yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:50   you know what I don't really like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:51   will be all wait for the book right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:54   I don't think that's a big slice like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:56   it's your various people are waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:57   the related by the movie and you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3297">TS</a>]

00:55:00   read the book because the movie was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:02   great you want to read the book at him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:04   like usual a 210 mostly one more about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:06   their especially when they adapt books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:09   and then novel eyes them again because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:10   clearly the people who are considered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12   themselves too snooty 22 oh yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:14   was a much better book aren't gonna read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:16   a novelization yeah what do I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:19   you're the first people I've ever met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:20   who bought novelizations and rhythm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:22   always wanted to buys these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:23   novelizations movies there anybody out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:25   there looking for these but here we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:26   two people who willingly for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:28   you got novelizations of movies i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:30   buy one it was given mine was given i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:32   can't remember the last time i did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:34   but when i was when i was a kid in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:36   huge Star Trek fan and i would buy any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:39   Star Trek book that i could get my hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:40   on and then you know they came out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:42   a novelization of these books and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:44   that one I are in particular I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:46   because it was by an actually you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:49   good novelist and and she did a i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:52   a pretty good job and and that there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:54   some other some other really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:55   writers who have done novelizations of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:57   didn't Greg bear it great where does a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3357">TS</a>]

00:56:01   halo I think he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:03   hello yeah there's some strange so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:06   video game novelizations is also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:07   really big really big thing that you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:09   I was gonna say i have all the I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:11   actually have all the novelization of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:12   the Star Wars trilogy right which are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:15   odd and then the splitter in my mind's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:18   eye which is like in the nether regional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:20   which was written by the same guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:21   goes fairly lost star wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:23   yeah the star wars novelization the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:25   Stars the opposition is notable for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:27   in that it actually contains a reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:29   like obi-wan Kenobi talks about ducks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:31   which may or may not exist in the star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:35   wars universe it's unclear got arrested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:38   somehow you know exchange and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:40   by George Lucas right window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:43   hi George look it was by alan dean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:45   foster goes right but the first one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:47   actually credited to George Lucas what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:49   it is literally just behind a return of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:51   the jedi yeah i think they later on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:54   changing minor reprints of it they took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:57   off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3417">TS</a>]

00:56:58   they took off Lucas's name is khan you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:00   know it's not just not Jimmy combi ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:02   the the axon like misspelling wrath of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:05   ahs what is this Darth Vader guy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:09   wrath of james caan I've got a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:12   about a movie i would watch the rap of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:16   james caan by the way i would read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:19   novelization of the wrath of change come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:21   in misery also another I think movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:23   that did a good job of translating from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:25   a book to movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:26   speaking of James Caan and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:29   even King another one of Stephen King [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:30   shorter books only about an inch thick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:33   maybe less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:34   are there are there books that you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:36   should or need to be made it clear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:39   you would like to see as a movie I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:41   like to see The Dark Tower is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:43   miniseries and luckily i'm gonna always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:44   going to get that chance to tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:46   you're gonna get a movie and then a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:47   series and then another movie iron that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:49   I movie series i would like the dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:51   tower to get the Lord of the Rings type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:53   treatment and it won't fit in the series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:56   of movies so i guess they have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:57   some of the forms of they're gonna do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:58   as a miniseries and and and a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:00   movies then give it a try i hope it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:03   doesn't come out like the standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:04   miniseries which was a total disaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:07   so I've got my fingers crossed for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:08   dark tower they're making two other good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:12   neil gaiman works into into adaptations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:15   the Good Omens and the american gods are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:17   both being turned into I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:19   miniseries I'm both which are excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:22   books see I'm looking forward to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:24   and i would say I this actually came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:27   recently a cousin of my cousin's email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:29   me to say her husband was a huge film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:31   buff was talking to this guy who is who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:33   had made a fairly well-known movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:36   said this guy is looking for you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:38   his next sort of project and looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:40   something to adapt into a movie and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:42   she was asking us for suggestions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:44   one of the ones i came up with which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:46   a series of books that I mean for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:48   while by any mike carey who's a fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:51   well-known comic book writer has also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:52   written this series of novels about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:56   their kind of a new war supernatural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3536">TS</a>]

00:58:59   story and when they're about a guy who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:00   an exorcist but he's very much in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:02   mold of your sort of classic noir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:04   detective and I think those the they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:07   called the Felix caster series and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:09   think those would make very interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:11   either sort of seemed like a bad picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:13   them is like a BBC series type thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:16   with you know six episodes per season or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:18   something like that but it would be I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:20   would be really interested to see how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:21   they would adapt those um I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:24   think of the sci-fi novels of jack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:26   mcdevitt are all sort of widescreen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:29   sci-fi you know big big idea kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:33   rollicking space adventures and I i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:36   surprised that one of those hasn't made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:37   it into a a big-budget sci-fi movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:40   because the kind of mystery action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:42   you know spaceships flying around kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:45   of stuff so I'm a little surprised but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:48   would also go with you Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:50   I'd love to slam by nick hornby as a as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:53   a movie while Tony Hawk can still be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:56   himself as the as the appearance of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:59   good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59   good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00   post or astral projection or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02   of tony hawk as at leaving makeup looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:06   really good yeah that would make an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:08   excellent movie series i don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:11   you do it means miniseries now I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:12   that would be a public thing you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:13   that what that could work as a movie i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:15   think the miniseries it's unfortunate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:16   the main series gets a pretty bad rap in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:18   the US for the most part except for HBO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:20   communications like HBO basically was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:22   going to put the money into it but i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:24   slammed with work and it is genre in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:27   sense that there's like an alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:28   there's like it also is a sliding doors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:30   kind of thing where there's like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:31   alternate reality that he visits or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:33   something and then he comes back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:35   one reality and tony hawk is his spirit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:37   guide them it's funny it's good as i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:40   mentioned i whatever I get obsessed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:42   particular author so as I was a kid I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:44   was obsessed with Isaac as well and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:47   read the Foundation series which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:50   probably is better in my mom and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:52   memory than actually in reality but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:54   would be interested in some way that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:56   mean I would tap that i don't know i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:59   developed god I mean we didn't know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:01   mentioned i robot which is a terrible at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:03   it yeah well it's not even an adaptation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:05   really know although is everything a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:07   resident listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:09   yeah Allison screenplay which is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:10   good very very good if you if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:13   and get a chance to read it it's it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:15   published as a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:16   yeah harlan ellison's irobot screenplay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:20   he did a great job at trying to bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:22   all that together and and it's a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:24   know it's sort of a shame that never got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:26   made because it's way better like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:27   will smith movie photos my really like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:31   really liked is that his mystery series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:33   sci-fi mystery series the caves of steel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:34   the as mouth ones but there's a trail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:37   right i think i read four books that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:39   that tie in with foundation later on but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:41   I reliable those are kind of fun sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:43   pop boilers right about a rendezvous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:47   with rama which apparently will never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:50   actually be made into a movie but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:52   keep trying to make it into a movie they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:54   keep trying now I think cgi the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:56   advancements of special-effects has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:58   really made some of these unfilmable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3718">TS</a>]

01:01:59   sci-fi movies filmed yet but and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:01   know we saw with Lord of the Rings and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:03   and it goes from there I i'm skeptical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:05   ironical reforma could be ok but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:07   probably you know make it as you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:11   actually possible but really it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:12   people in a big too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13   taking a scary elevator is sort of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:15   that movie will screw it up but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:17   just fascinating because it's been in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:18   development hell for so long that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:20   like and how you're the point where i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:21   can't possibly be good but you just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:23   to see it get film just finally make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:24   so we can all get mad at it move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:27   yeah I'm interested to see they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:30   supposedly may also making a movie of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:32   john scalzi these old man's war the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:35   man's war wolfgang petersen i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:38   making it which is an interesting note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:41   that the skull see thing I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3761">TS</a>]

01:02:43   those are good books that whole series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:45   is really good and I can see how that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:47   could be a pretty cool pretty cool movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3767">TS</a>]

01:02:49   because again you got action you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:50   the whole kind of war backdrop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:52   you've got some interesting character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:53   stories about these old people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:55   become young people so that deadly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:58   threat cocoon but with guns yeah with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:00   the end big blue super strong soldier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:04   people and aliens and guns yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:07   great it's great it's a conspiratorial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:09   meets cocoon that's how you pick uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:11   that's why they're making it i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:13   it's because somebody said hey remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:15   that cocoon not amici wilford brimley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:20   could do that with guns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:21   that's right yeah actually if you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:24   given them all guns in that movie I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:26   might have watched that you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:28   best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:28   speaking of movies made it our books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:30   into movies the firm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:32   I you know I'm not going to say anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:33   positive about the movie or the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:35   other than to say that in the firm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:36   wilford brimley is kicked to death by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:38   Tom Cruise kicked to death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:42   it's the right thing to do and it takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:44   you way to do it is just up and on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:48   note thank you everybody for joining me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:50   on this on this exciting podcast about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3830">TS</a>]

01:03:53   movies and books and how they hate each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZzk4BI/3833">TS</a>]

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