00:00:00 ◼ ► the impound horrible comcast number 32 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/0">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► welcome back to be uncomfortable podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/13">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► i am doing smell your host i am joined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/15">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► today by our usual book club rogues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/17">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► gallery if you ignore the last book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/20">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► podcast which I wasn't on and in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/23">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► only listened to yesterday but let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/25">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► ignore that because i had more in on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/28">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► so our usual our usual book club rogues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/31">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► gallery Glenn Fleischman joins us hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/33">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► Glenn hi thanks for having me thanks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/35">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► yes yes you have read the book I concur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/42">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► alright thank you for confirming and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/47">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► joining us yet another person who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/48">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► capable of reading things and speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/51">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► about them you wouldn't think this would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/53">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► thank you too Lisa Schmeisser who joins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/57">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► us again today I learned how to read for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/59">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► this podcast that's right reading will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/62">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► get you far and you know why because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/64">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► take a look at it in a book a Reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/68">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► Rainbow mhm so our subject today on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/71">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► book club is actually short stories and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/75">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► in particular we're going to look at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/78">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► short story collection along with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/79">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► believe seattle-based author is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/84">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► right Glenn that is my understanding i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/86">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► know people who know him a guy named ted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/88">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► chang who doesn't ted chang doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/90">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► a massive output of writing he seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/93">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► be a slow writer a methodical writer but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/98">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► he released just a few years ago a short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/101">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► story collection called stories of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/103">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► life and others and it was recommended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/105">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► to be by Greg NOS our good friend and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/108">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► member of the podcast you decided not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/110">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► thanks Greg but teaching has been has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/114">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► been critically acclaimed he's won the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/119">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► award has been nominated for lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/122">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► fiction writing community and he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/125">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► good writer so I thought we would we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/128">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► would talk a little bit about these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/130">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► error that the short stories if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/133">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► haven't read them I I doubt we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/134">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► get some deep down into the spoilers but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/136">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► if so will fire off the spoiler horn but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/138">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► with so many short stories it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/141">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► not about the big magic nations of plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/143">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► like it is with novels it's a lot about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/146">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► just a sort of taking that that journey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/147">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► and and and getting a little nugget of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/150">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► the story so so anyway Ted Chang I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/152">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► we've all read some or all of the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/156">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► approach this guy i don't really want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/160">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► go down a bulleted list of of every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/162">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► single short story he's written although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/164">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► we could maybe start by talking about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/166">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► interesting in some way and I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/171">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► throw to glen because he's in seattle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/172">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► we should talk we can talk about themes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/176">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► after we talked about stories i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/178">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► it's a lot of things run through this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/179">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► but I think story of my story of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/180">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► life is to me it's one of the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/183">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► pieces that story in this collection is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/186">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► one of the best pieces of writing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/188">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► I've read ever have to say because it he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/191">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► does something that I have the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/194">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► feeling when i read certain you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/196">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► terrifically cerebral science-fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/198">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► authors like I'm looking I'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/203">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► across the room at the massive anthem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/204">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► which has its own bookshelf for instance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/207">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► the extensions and FM i think it's i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/209">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► think it takes up a quarter of the space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/211">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► of my living room to hold it and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/212">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► when i read an mi felt like oh it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/216">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► painful to read initially because he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/218">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► rewriting my brain as i wrote as i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/220">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► it and i felt too much smaller extent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/222">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► story of your life requires that you as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/225">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► you read it you are a dealing with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/229">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► different tenses that the first person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/232">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► professor of linguistics opposes maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/237">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► that the best way to describe her and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/239">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► she she's talking about the future as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/242">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► the present and the past sort of as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/246">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► past and it's confusing where she's at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/249">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► and she seems to be talking to an infant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/252">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► and as a story involves she's moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/254">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► backwards and forwards through time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/257">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► you think always this one of these time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/259">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► travel stories you get precognitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/261">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► powers and what it turns out to be is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/263">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► like most mundane and remarkable at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/266">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► same time that it's I find it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/269">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► mind-blowing like I've never read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/271">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► that's so beautifully encompass the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/274">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► notions of free will and predestination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/276">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► and all that stuff while also being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/279">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► good story and being good sci-fi and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/282">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► really moving me one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/285">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► that's it i think this is a classic ted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/287">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► narrator is not to be trusted but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/291">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► not an unreliable narrator in the sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/294">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► of like everything she says is a lie but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/295">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► more like you really have to read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/297">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► carefully because she's telling you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/299">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► things that seem to be absolute facts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/300">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► and then anybody in the story like wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/302">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► a minute and i think i've read some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/304">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► these stories three or four maybe this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/305">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► one probably five times as many more I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/306">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► over the years and on multiple readings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/309">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► are like she she refuses to knowledge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/313">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► how she's changed reality how she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/316">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► changed from future you know she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/319">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► saying it's impossible and that's part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/320">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► writing is that he is really fascinated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/324">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► with the notion of how much is under our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/326">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► own control how much to outside forces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/328">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► whether it's God or aliens or God aliens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/330">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► you know God kings and King gods are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/333">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► charge of us are robots human beings and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/336">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► their power is derived from strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/339">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► motive force like all these things but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/341">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► what is actually allowing us to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/343">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► decisions what we think is along this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/345">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► make decisions and how do we ascend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/347">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► beyond that and so this is I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/349">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► is like the perfect gem of a story both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/352">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► collections to it's funny that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/356">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► hacking your brain a little bit like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/360">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► like you you said about an mi believe on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/361">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► not because that he's got me that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/365">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► actually the that's actually the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/367">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► of the story as well is that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/369">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► main characters brain is hacked by her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/373">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► understanding of this language which as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/377">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► an old com major I I throw it back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/379">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► the sapir-whorf hypothesis that the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/381">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► becomes the way you view the world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/385">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► it's taken to this kind of wacky sci fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/388">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► xtreme here where you've got an alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/390">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► race that doesn't essentially doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/392">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► believe in linear time there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/394">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► whole concept that you know the universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/396">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► history of the universe before you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/401">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► simultaneously and is sort of part of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/405">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► crystal or something like that and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/407">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► their concept of past present future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/408">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► doesn't really exist and so as she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/411">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► learns their language this is which has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/413">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► got some crazy name it's like every race [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/415">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► her perception yeah it changes her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/418">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► actual perception of time so that by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/420">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► learned heptapod be she good and she can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/424">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► no longer perceive time when she can she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/428">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► can perceive time in both ways because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/431">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► she's learning this language but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/433">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► far out man but it's it's in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/437">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► it's just what a good short story should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/440">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► do right which is change your way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/442">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► thinking in some way except on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/444">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► crazy you know sci-fi scale with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/446">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► personal touch of her talking to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/449">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► child also throw in so there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/452">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► stuff in the blender the thing i noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/454">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► when i was reading through the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/456">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► stories is I came to think of three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/457">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► stories as sort of an interrelated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/460">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► triptik on understand which is about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/462">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► intelligence it's what it's like flowers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/471">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► for algernon yeah to the 10th power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/473">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► yep you know only without the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/475">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► without the hideous regression but I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/477">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► understand story of your life and 72 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/479">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► letters as complementary works and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/482">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► reason I saw them Leslie is because in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/485">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► every single one of them the power of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/487">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► language to shape reality and to shape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/490">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► perception is a pivotal part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/493">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► story and what it reminded me of was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/495">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► plot point in snow crash where well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/498">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► know when when it turns out that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/501">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► is the generative grammar at the union [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/503">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► Steffensen bars very heavily from noam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/505">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► chomsky early on linguistic theories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/507">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► that you know there's a generative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/509">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► generative grammar that is used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/511">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► describe reality as we know if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/512">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► hack the grammar you can have human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/514">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► behavior and i found that those ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/515">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► were very subtly interwoven especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/518">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► through understand where the whole point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/520">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► of the story is that the protagonist is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/523">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► taken down by somebody who's grasp the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/525">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► rules of the grammar faster than he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/527">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► protagonist at the center of it learns a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/532">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► whole new grammar thanks to pod be and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/534">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► that radically altered her perception of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/537">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► space and time and then in 72 letters it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/539">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► was the ability to assign a specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/543">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► etymology to a phenomena that is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/546">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► to change the way an entire species [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► reproduces and is going to fundamentally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/552">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► alter human society couple generations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/553">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► down the line and I found it fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/555">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► that he kept returning to this theme of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/557">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► you know once you can decode the grammar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/561">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► you can take you can decode reality or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► once you alter a language you can alter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/566">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► the outcome of reality it seems very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/568">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► very much reflective of his day job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/570">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► which is as a technical writer who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/573">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► documents code you know it it deals with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/575">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► closed systems and the idea that once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/577">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► mystified the system and set down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/581">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► boundaries and what the outcomes are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/582">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► going to be in order to change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/584">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► outcome all you have to do is is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/586">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► understand manipulate the parameters i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/587">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► want to read a very short passage to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/590">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► carefully marked stuff in previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/594">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► podcast to read on this this requires a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/595">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► spoiler or I think it does get away with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/598">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► more of the story of your life away but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/600">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► it says them it's a I don't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/601">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► uh-huh and it's the this the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/606">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► person narrator narrator is talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/609">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► language and have to plot B is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/612">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► written language that they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/613">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► concept all at once but you seem to need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/617">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► to know the entire outcome to write the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/619">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► idea Graham that the sort of resident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/622">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► rub presentation of the idea such as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/625">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► before I learn how to think and heptapod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/627">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► be my memories crew like a column of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/629">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► infinitesimal sliver of combustion that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/633">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► sequential present after I learned at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/636">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► the top heptapod be new memories fell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/638">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► into place like gigantic blocks each one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/640">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► measuring years in duration and though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/643">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► they didn't arrive in order or land [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/645">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► continuously they soon composed a period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/646">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► of five decades is the period period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/649">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► during which i don't have to hide be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/651">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► well enough to thinking it starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/652">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► during my interviews with flapper and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/654">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► raspberry the two aliens and ending with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/655">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► and for me that encapsulates the stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/658">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► just terrifying thing where she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/660">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► gaining not only the perception of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/662">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► future but the perception of how she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/664">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► perceives the future as well it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/666">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► beautiful passages and it's also one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/669">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► the things I've noticed his linguistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/672">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► seems to be something that several sites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/674">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► by authors tend to return to over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/676">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► over again for example r us at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/677">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► familiar with from suzette elgin Hayden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/681">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► don't know what naughty that's not us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/685">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► not even Scott you stop the band Lisa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/688">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► she wrote a trilogy although the third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/691">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► book as is the case in many trilogies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/694">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► the book was many many years after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/696">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► first two and goes off in the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/697">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► wacky we're direction but the premise of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/699">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► her first two books is that alien races [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/702">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► have made contact with humans and as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/705">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► I like that imagine academics must love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/713">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► well in there i think one of the reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/720">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► she's not widely known is because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/722">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► also set in a dystopian future where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/724">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► women have been reduced to legal channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/726">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► and so what the books talk about is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/728">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► way women create a subversive language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/731">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► of their own to foment social rebellion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/733">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► and it actually fails but aside from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/735">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► that down or outcome what's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/738">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► fascinating is how interwoven through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/739">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► the books um is the contention that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/741">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► more aware you become of how language is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/745">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► put together the more where you become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/748">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► of how your perceptions of the world are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/750">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► assembled and that by altering one or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/752">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► altering the other you know you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/754">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► changes the way you communicate or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► can change the way you communicate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/759">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► perceptions and create a feedback loop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/762">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► that alters the outcomes of what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► want to do i think not surprising the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/766">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► writers would get into this stuff given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/768">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► something is to put words in a sequence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/772">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► reaction and behave in a certain way or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/778">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► think in a certain way that is what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/781">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► writer does so you know but you but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/783">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► know the way Chang does it as he puts it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/786">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► in this kind of amazing a very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/788">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► I was going to say sci-fi trapping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/791">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► although a lot of his stuff is is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/794">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► understand is a very almost cyberpunk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/798">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► infiltrates the computer networks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/803">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► because he's super intelligent and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/806">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► essentially have this little motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/810">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► high-speed simultaneously dual-band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/812">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► story of your life has wacky aliens who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/815">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► appear and our are like big octopus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/818">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► aliens but he's got some other other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/821">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► stories that are in a very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/825">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► tower of Babylon and a story that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/828">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► in his collection the merchant at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/831">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► alchemist gate are both stories that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/833">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► have a middle eastern flavor and our are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/836">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► clearly sort of sci-fi or fantasy in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/839">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► way and yet in and they don't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/842">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► entirely different much more exotic you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/846">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► know not your usual setting for a for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/848">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► sci-fi story so we kind of goes all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/851">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► yeah and i will say that the tower of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/854">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► Babylon was my least favorite story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/856">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► it is the first one in the compilation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/860">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► so I thought folks this is not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/863">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► well you know I you warned me about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/865">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► and I went back some like life all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/867">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► stories were great and then went back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/869">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► was like oh yeah that one's a little you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/870">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► ascending the tower and it goes on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/876">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► does go on to build and then at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/879">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► there kind of is this where it went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/881">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► oh you know it kind of reminded me of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/885">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► some of James Morrow's work are you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/888">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► familiar jamesemorrow know it's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/890">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► dream only but only got daughter where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/892">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► somebody raises the the immaculately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/895">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► conceived daughter of god on telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/898">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► Jehovah Jehovah more jobs body falls to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/901">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► he's one of my favorite authors he did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/906">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► stories for adults where he also has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/909">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► oh yeah oh yeah except James burrows a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/916">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► lot angrier than Ted chanc so it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/919">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► feeling bad about yourself for Humanity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/923">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► because you'll end up just you know Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/925">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► what is the what is the meaning of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/926">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► all but he's worth reading if you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/928">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► if you're in a calm emotionally level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/930">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► because they you know he got dies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/936">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► remind his corpse floating in the ocean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/939">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► just amuses me so so Lisa to you have am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/940">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► is your is your sort of pick for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/946">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► story that you found most interesting is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/948">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► that is that understand or is it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/949">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► trip ticket or do you have something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/951">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► the triptych i thought was fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/953">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► automatic perspective and I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/954">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► perhaps tells you a lot about ideas that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/957">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► that the author is perpetually chewing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/959">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► over my favorite story out of all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/961">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► them and i'm not sure this wasn't the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/963">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► collections exhalation right I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/965">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► that's not in the collection yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/968">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► really enjoyed exhalation a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/970">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► process of this this piece that an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/973">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► anatomist from its particular species [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/976">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► like the robots with the iron lungs is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/978">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► that you under yeah who undertakes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/980">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► detect his own brain and and discovers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/982">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► that their unit that the universe is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/984">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► fact shrinking it was a chase and thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/985">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► you for sucking all the beauty that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/988">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► general practice with what is good god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/990">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► nominee there's a hugo and how many last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/994">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► year and I and I got to the list and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/996">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► got to that one like no Chet chang and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/998">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► red nose like wow this is a story about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► some sentient robots who are who have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► evolved from an iron lung machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► yeah okay and they use gold and they use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► gold to conduct their thoughts and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► figures that a relationship and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► says okay by the way we're all doomed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► eventually our universe is going to wind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► different species will find us and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► was the combination of the investigative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► spirit in the story and the tragedy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► an entire species dying due to the law [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► of physics and the hopefulness of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► discovery and I thought wow this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► pretty much encapsulated so what one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► would hope would be the best of any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► sentient species so i really liked the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► story i think i think it has a lot in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► common with his most recent work the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► lifestyle goals lifecycle of software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► objects in that and going back to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► being a tech writer it is about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► process and and you know there is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► something technical about some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► he writes especially those two stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► where it's about investigating and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► developing software or being this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► sentiment among machine that learns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► I'm sorry that I sucked everything out i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► didn't i didn't really I didn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► like that story it was i was in it and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► think i was actually so excited it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► by ted chang and I read it and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► that kind of a letdown but I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► was very creative i I think that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► a little bit mind-blowing in the sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► that it is about this really weird alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► what you know creature who is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► striving to understand the universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► around it but would you agree that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► characteristic is that it's clear he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► always exploring an incredible creep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► conceit and sometimes it's like a sketch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► like you look at an artist working it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► like that's the pencil they didn't fill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► it in but it's still sort of interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► and are in writers don't usually have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► their writers notebooks get published or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► they talk about their ideas and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► understanding works as we started out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► very deliberately so this is the body of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► his work and you know you're pissed i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► sort of guy like I wish I'd novels from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► this fellow and I don't think he works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► that way but I think some of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► stories like that it's like this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► fascinating idea sketched out briefly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► and a in a well-written fashion but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► not a story you know it's an idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► it's a conceit and all of the stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► had a great conceit at the center and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► think that you know how that's a common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1137">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► complaint with sci-fi authors in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► right that their ideas are better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► no I didn't we say that you get you end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► up with one good idea and you read if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► you're lucky and you put a novel around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► it because that like the first podcast i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► think it's true i'm still waiting for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► good idea but I think that changs hit he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► is such a good writer and his ideas are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► so unique that I think that like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► said I think it's a shame that he hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► written a novel sure how would we care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► about them i think the lifecycle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► software objects which is a very long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► work actually shit makes me wonder what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► the tip the the theoretical ted chang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► novel would would be like because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► think lifecycle of software objects is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► not one of his better works it's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► his longer works but I I'm not sure I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► actually prefer it to some of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► 3i it feels like a very thin idea spread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► out it's like a Saturday Live sketch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► turned into a movie it's a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► loud last night at the roxbury thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► yeah night at the Roxbury 00 and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► thought meet with the iron lung machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► was hard but I had to try to top you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► some authors who are much better with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► their ideas because they're in this tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► little bubble and you know just enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► about it to get you sinking into the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► what if and and it lets you explore the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► idea but there's not so much detail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► where you can pay attention to whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► this this world is built out of plywood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► or wow this item is another profound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► isn't supposed to be what we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► great pitching stories this world is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► built out of plywood no matter what my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► classic example of that is Nancy crisis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► beggars in spain which is a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► marbella um you know it's basically what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► happens if you create a class of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► antennae and it's a fantastic short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► story and velour novella but when she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► stretched out to a novel and then again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► made a trilogy you lost the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► cool idea which is how fundamentally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► altered someone's character when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► don't have that downtime when they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► dream when they're constantly 24-7 you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► lose that really cool idea and it turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► instead into this really weird this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► mishmash of bioengineering and class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► warfare and and americans are dumb and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► consume too much and I would have rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► that she had just stopped with the short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► story you know Greg bears great novella [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► blood music got turned and he turned it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► into a novel and exactly the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► happened he added some some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► dubious action scenes and he starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► earlier in the story and does a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► expansion of of stuff that you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► the short story or or novella novelera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► you know whatever the smaller work is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► pared back to the things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► required to tell the story and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► know it may not necessarily be that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► if you start with a novel but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► start with a short story and expanded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► you can you can sort of see that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► it's really the stuff that would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► thrown out right at the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► wasn't essential and suddenly it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► padding and it's kind of disappointing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► or you don't like the direction it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► in for example David Mary second one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► my favorite short story authors for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► science fiction and one of the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► poignant science fiction short stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► of a red titled we were out of our minds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► with joy and i love that story if it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► stuck with me ever since I read it back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► in 1995 i will occasionally read it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► still get choked up over it it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► first chapter of his 2005 novel counting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► heads and you know I ran out paid for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► the hardcover which i never do read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► disappointed because he took well he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► took the short story it was of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► the first chapter of the book and don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► get me wrong i think he did some very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► creative things in the book and I admire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► that he had the courage to take his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► characters and pushed in different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► directions but it they weren't the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► directions and the ideas that I had sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► of taken away from the short story they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► were his vision and as a result its I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► sort of had a bad taste in my mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► because you know you finish the short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► story and you've had this little shared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► experience and you've got your little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► bubble of perception about how you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1378">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► digested the story and the author sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► has their bubble of perception but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► have this nifty Levin diagram that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► overlaps whereas with a novel that every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► of overlap becomes much much smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► relative to the size of the work so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► disappointment on the readers part that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► is interesting is I have I read that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► oh maybe two years ago and i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► liked it and I had no idea it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► short story but he had written any kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► oh yeah he's got a collection that came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► out like 2007 but we're out of our minds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► of joy think it first appeared in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► um I remember reading an idiot eat it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► might have been in the year's best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► science fiction anthology but i do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► definitely remember reading I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► remember which anthology i read in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► first so Scott you had no idea that no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► had and I thought the the novel was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► great so clearly i'm glad i didn't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► the short story because they looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► no I like the novel on one level but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► was terribly disappointing and another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► level that makes sense well because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► because you know you're seeing you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► necessary for the what you felt was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► main thrust of the you know the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► lifecycle software objects i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► think you can argue that one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► reasons that it might be a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► disappointing i'm not sure if everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► I mean Glen and I seem to think that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► is is that there's a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► misdirection because i think because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► sci-fi trope that's on display there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► official intelligences and you know do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► that we've seen I mean they're Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► episodes about this right is it alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► and doesn't have rights and all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► things and in the end I sort of felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► like what I was actually reading and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► actually like the story better if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► think of it this way is it's about it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► literally about the abandonment of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► software and not about people at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► it's about the fact that technology and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► software you know even things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► incredibly well loved and popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► inevitably there is the there is the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► yeah where they where where nobody uses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► everybody this is my problem with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► toys story to the one problem i had with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► this will sound like i'm talking like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► just woke up in the middle of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► conversation LOL when looking back was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► no was the what's the connection is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► jesse idea yet you have a bit where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► she's thrown into a box and abandoned on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► the side of the road was this horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► like I watched and I was filled with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► this this horrible void filled universal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► dread that was because it was like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► know there's already this huge conceit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► that the toys are only sort of alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► when they're around kids or when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► experience their lives only through this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► mediation of children and then it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► goodbyes pulling out the window you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► not important anymore and it sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► toy story 3 I haven't seen it yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► starts with a little bit of that same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► throughout honestly fifties and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► something about that like where where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► you're the kind of empathy you have with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► I mean I think life cycle of software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► objects i don't mean to compare tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► the rocks breaks it's not horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► anymore like it has that sense of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► stretched way too thin to transparency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► but he has that idea of like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► this incredible loyalty between the that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1557">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► designers and Donna and and the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► that she makes because the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► she makes becomes real as real as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► anything else so i think that i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► you're right that it actually is trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► to represent that feeling of a banding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► stuff that still may be used for what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► you think it's things like you know hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► here's this ipod that I i used in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► delivery room when we had you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► we had one of our kids you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► there's this level of sentimentality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► over or it's like oh yeah i used to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► that computer i use that program you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► technology a2 and not just sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► inanimate objects like like a stuffed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► animals you know you have this sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► personifying and these artificial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► intelligence creations that makes an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► interesting sight again it with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► interesting sci-fi wrapper around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► something else is trying to say but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► the end I thought it was actually like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► me the the most this is another one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► those where I'm liking it more now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► actually reading it it's it's it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► describe this sort of natural process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► that things things move on and although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► they seem important eventually we we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► just abandoned them and it's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► they'd it's not the story of everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► dies because that's different this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► eventually everything that we make is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► abandoned and and you may get you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► you may be on the end of the bell curve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► with it like those people who have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► the Apple to convention every year and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► the human convention every year but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► HyperCard forever yeah but in the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► but you know just like the ai's in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► life cycle of software objects and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► the greatest supporters of of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► technology and as it becomes outmoded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► hardware and all these things that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► computer users no happen you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► they just you know they fade away and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► and in this case it's poignant because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► they're sort of these sentient creatures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► who basically get put in a box and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► not like they died as much as they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► ceased to move forward and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► sentimental story I thought and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► saying a lot given that the collection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► also features of a parent group grieving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► uh-huh regretting the idea i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► there was something I thought that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► thought there was some elements of pesos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► in that were perhaps not necessary and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► understand they may be there to amplify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► his point because changa said well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► wrote this book this story to point out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► i don't think a is going to work until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► people value that value it enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► pour in a lot of time and effort and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► love into what they're doing man and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► think it's an admirable point but when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► you make the delay is incredibly cute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► and you give them a pigeon grammar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► because all they're just learning how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► speak and you know it looks like wacky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► lovable cartoon characters but yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► at the end and they have an adorable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► they have adorable little avatar that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► are specially printed before them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► another day another would've worn by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► way which is not great I think he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► really putting a lot of that they're put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1738">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► in porn event yeah right resolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► independent but I'm still really cute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► and really dependent so and there's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► a lot of buttons being pushed there at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► that I thought way not to mention the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► romantic subplot what you felt was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► you know again we service all very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► you're not content on consummated or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► even fulfilling and all but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► it's the old like why do people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► ladybugs and hate cockroaches because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► okay yeah or disrepute well so cute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► cockroaches what's wrong with you well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► this story also points out what I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► to think of as the animal problem in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► um which is that a lot of authors tend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► to assume know in the future things will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► be extinct in the future animals will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► not be up something people even think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► about anymore i can remember the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► time I read count 0 by william gibson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► there was a throwaway line about horses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► going extinct that just threw me for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► loop because I I was like can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► imagine a world without horses and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► that was supposed to do in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► courses they're extinct and in you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► this chanc story on ax is a zoo keeper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► who is obviously rendered obsolete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► either because the user closing down or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► animals r dot have died or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► I just keep wondering why there can't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► good science fiction where there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► why do we have to kill other species [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► Williams heptapods will occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► you'll get to occasional get dolphins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► for example like how it turns out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► aliens have been talking with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► David Bradley is David wrote a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► series of we should all about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► I did too in high school my god yes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► high school now I feel really amateur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► right yeah i just discovered them and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► i love i love the alien love scenes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► the seventeen-year-old girl reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► about lifting dolphins all my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► gorillas don't forget the ground was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► dragons are gonna rip we're all going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► regress and talk about their future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1857">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► popular because clearly i think mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► McNulty is not be consultants favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► story at however i was going to ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► I'm sorry what ah that is true so i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► to that I like what's expected of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► which is probably the shortest shorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► underneath those in the was it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► no it's only extended part of its not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► the so the one that is a good story it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► basically you know it's about they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► create this to someone crazy device that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► all you do is push a button and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► lights up a light but the twist is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► the light lights up right before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► push the button and that leads people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► down the road they realized that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► don't have free will and beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► society crumbles and people kill each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► they fall into catatonia exactly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► something like a page and a half long so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► they're say there's a a story in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► year's best scientific every year I by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► the gardener on a precipice because this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► is it desired is I don't know but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1917">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► one of those it's could be friendship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► could be americanized but the year's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► best science fiction anthology which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► great read it's worth you know I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► highly recommend it sits at you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► get 30 short stories that you can take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► whole year to read them if you want and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► just partial amount and there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► really mind-blowing stuff in there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► there's a story in there and i can't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► can't think of the name of it now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► basically it's premise is very similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► which is the that uh that there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► studies that suggest which is true that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► when they monitor somebody and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► going to make a decision like to reach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► out and press a button that they there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► the moment where they decided to press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► the button and reach out and press it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► they're already moving to press it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► the idea is that that our consciousness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► is not actually the decider of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► happens but more like the record keeper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► of the decision so and what they what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► they say in the short story is that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► that we're like the the Queen in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► castle and all of her servants come and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► report to her about what's going on but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► I you know but the servants do all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► work so we you know we're not in charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► were just the the the like the minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► of the meeting executive function and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► and in short story what happens is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► there's this drug that makes you forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► that gets you high that kids take and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► you overdose on it it basically wipes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► out your you're the queen of the castle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► and so then a new person comes in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► they have all your memory all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► memories of this other character but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► it's not the same person but very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► similar in in like 15 times the length [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► Scott of the story that same idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► that you know is it free will is it not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► are you really the person who's making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► any of the decisions or you or you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► the the the receipt right and I my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► favorite part of the the story is at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► end so basically it's a letter basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► that sent from the future to the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► warning people about this and at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► you know he said you don't have free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► will so why am I telling you this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► and the last line is something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► because I have to because he has no free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► will so he has to send this letter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► because it is predestined and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► that he can't do anything about well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► know what this reminds me of is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► it's an isaac asimov story forgotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► it's a classic story where this guy is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► history professor studying like he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► trying he spent his whole career trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► to dispute the fact that Carthaginians [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► eight babies or something when they went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► to war or something like that and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► finds there's some kind of institute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► that's that uses from like time viewing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► and they can look at events in the far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► past and but they keep blaming it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► time for him that his pursuits 22 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► trivial and so he meets a physicist at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► party this young guy and guys like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► you know if someone can do it this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► this video is the argument the argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► something if you don't know how then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► go and figure out how to do it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► someone else has and which has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► repeated throughout the history of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► software hardware development sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► for someone thinks someone else is done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► breakthrough so in this story this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► business is like well I should be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► hard because they've already done it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► they figure out he figures out a way he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► the researcher managed to create a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► machine less than view but the trick is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► it doesn't feel the distant past he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► back like one-second anywhere in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► world so they get burst in at the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► minute I like the time police you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► time place the time you are police were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► like oh my god you know what you've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► you spread this knowledge now we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► live in a glass bubble always no one's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► actions will ever be unnoticed again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► because everyone can have one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► things and then you know the twist was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► they only talked about things happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► in the far past the people wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► think about turning the time you're back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► one second you've destroyed us all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► oh so what's your other pics my other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► favorite as hell is the absence of God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► really want you can get through that 1i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► I like a I was raised Roman Catholic so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► I like things with religion goes hardly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► haha that's why we're gonna get through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► another former Catholic somebody got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► that's the one where the guy's wife is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► yeah like an angel appears and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► there's collateral damage she gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► yeah so finally in the in the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► setting of the story angels appear on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► semi-regular basis and they you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► bring tidings from God and they also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► happen to cause earthquakes and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► kinds of things and people died and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► think their act of god they're not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► Bob exactly which is I think of anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► throw a part of the whole story and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► the end and so people died and then i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► guess during when you want an angel is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► around and someone dies you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► where their soul goes so they know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► someone is going to heaven or hell and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► it's very depressing story if you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► all the way to the end but yeah I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► we'll see that's anxious because you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► black heart because they have like an 18 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► and there's a character who was born so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► it there's another part of the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► where people go to where they think an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► angel is going to appear because when an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► angel appears the light of God proceeds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► it and when light of God hits people it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► can cure them of disease or it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► so that bad things happen and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► character in the story who was born [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► without legs and so she refuses to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► after an angel because she wants to she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► wants people to accept their limitations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► and be happy with who they are living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► their life trying to come across a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► random event that will make their life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► better and then through a series of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► events she happens to be in an area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► where an angel appears and she gets her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► legs back and everyone's like oh now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► you're you know you're it kind of ruins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► your whole character and then later on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► she's an angel again and her she becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► blind but not only blind she becomes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► creature who never had site so i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► that she lost her eyes but she never was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► she never had site uh-huh that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► that's a really weird story is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► here stupid but I like weird stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► good for you it's nothing like that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► he reminds us of the short stories that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► he's written in this collection we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► talking earlier about other kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► short story collections and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► that again and again azimoff reference i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► think i read too much as them off of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► I don't anything everything this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► future is all about psychohistory if not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► go history think of zero at wawa serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► about Susan Calvin for president but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► thing I was thinking about was his he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► had a short short collections but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► cannot which were super short stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2338">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► like a page and sometimes less and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► love their sort of a regressive tendency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► is that you know there's sort of this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► the reason short stories involve was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► that there were magazines too pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► short stories that they weren't there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► were the one amazing and all these great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► science fiction magazines for thriving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► in the thirties through the early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► sixties or seventies that the they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► place people to write a certain length [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► that so much they could afford to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► and people can better write that link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► that ring novel length and you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► being able to sell massive numbers of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► science fiction novels this great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► and in science fiction but i love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► fact that like people also write these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► crazy short things that are like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► know and then the regressive parties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► like between twitter and i think was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► wired magazine had a five-word fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► contest that which was great and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► one of them was about the future i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► to go look it up with something about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► like time of us even five words told the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► whole story that time wraps around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► it was like the best of the best one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2395">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► baby shoes unused that doesn't take up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► on the anyway which is great which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► yeah that's it that's it so that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► you need right six words explore 548 was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► a man of few words to yeah but I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► that thing that you can have many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► honorary higher because we like short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► stories required short stories require a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► lot of inference like a novel you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► stretch out and reckon you can learn the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► landscape and the language and have your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► brain rewired but a short story you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► to have sort of one central concept you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► have to have to concede or some concedes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► you have to tell it and we fill in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► rest you know that's I think what least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► it was talking about like when you take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► the short story two novel link all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► stuff we filled in becomes explicit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► you know becomes over and becomes less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► interesting so I love these super short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► swear it's like in like 200 words have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► told this entire universe see when i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► in high school and college all I wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► short stories and when i first tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► write a novel it was fascinating because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► direction when the short story you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► want to be concentrated here's my idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► I need to get from point A to point B [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► i'm going to do all the pieces that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► get me from point A to point B and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► done where is it a novel it's like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► okay I sort of know where I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► there a whole lot of characters i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► going to detail all the all the steps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► and I was surprised how easily i went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► the longest story i had ever written was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► about 10,000 words or nine thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► words and you know and in 30 days i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► wrote 50,000 and the the novel ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► being a hundred and fifty thousand words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► so you know but I think that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► difference is if you go into it knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► you're writing that length your approach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► is very different and that's maybe where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► the expansions fall apart is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► know you're taking a short story premise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► and just kind of inflating it instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► saying no no this isn't that this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► uh-huh + 10 + 140 quatloos on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► newcomer but he has the ideas for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2516">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► really I mean he is you know he's he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► science-fiction writers and readers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► that's like Chang is the science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► writers writer like he's the guy they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► all like oh its head sank because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► writes so beautifully because he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► every story writes is a different story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► even if there's some of the concept we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► talking common he doesn't seem to reuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► central conceit even if there's any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► the themes are big but the conceits are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► different so they're always like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► read about people but it's like all back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► I like that kind of found an interview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► with him where he said he was asked if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► he has a novel in many said i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► if i get an idea for one sure but I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► don't ever expect to make a living being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► a writer so I'm happy to just sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► crank out a short story every now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► then which is interesting he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► have any aspirations even though he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► this you know really praised writer he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2577">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► like yeah you know I'm not gonna I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► gonna do that may just be that he knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► that the volume that is required is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► something he can do i don't know well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► some of some of us are Stephen King and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► some of us are touch and sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► wonder if the if there is an inherent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► tension between telling a good story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► exploring the limits of an idea within a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► storytelling context because for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► i will argue with Harold Bloom even that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► Stephen King is a fantastic story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► terrible a short story on both in short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► story and even novelistic form and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► think one of the reasons he is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► he doesn't necessarily necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► together event event event event event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► so it in such a way where you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► whereas when you're exploring an idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► it's a different well and here we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► back to the beginning of the podcast is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► a different framework of perception [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► because what you're trying to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► up against the sides of the idea and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► what about this oh there that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► but what about that oh that's how that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► carries out and you're taking the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► to its logical conclusion but that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► necessarily the same thing as crafting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► linear narrative that is riveting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► makes people want to find out what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► next step is Harold Bloom up by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► also failed to show up for the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► tonight so well he forgot his microphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► I think he also failed Jim Scott were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► uh yes I was speaking you know thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► about novels as commerce i can imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► you know there's a lot of work to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► threat level after I've ever written but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► attention as we you know establish takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► a long time to write so he would have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► put a lot of effort into it and frankly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► i'm sure it would be a lovely novel but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► I don't think it would sell all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► well just because it's not i don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► musician's musician right exactly what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► don't think this is not gonna be a harry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► potter right so why don't we go here we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► exploration of ideas versus the ability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► to craft a compelling narrative right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► it's drama that's what i'm going to wear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► this actually reminds me a bit of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► assume all of you already seen the Funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► yes yes yes so they're actually reminds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► me like the ted chang around to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► little that it's like you know he could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► take these incredibly like beautiful sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► subtle ideas and turn into a novel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► then if you just have that one idea like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► the Empire's he could make a million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► like all I guess that won't work well it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► so i want to mention my to ted chang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► stories because we don't ask you I i I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► just sitting right over here Jason that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► social your favorite what are your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► favorite oh it doesn't matter now you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► destroyed everything you ruin every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► muscle is not a more adult i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► go in my room probably pick bad ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► exactly actually what's funny as i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► going to mention two stories that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► none of you mentioned I was waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► the inevitable somebody to mention these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► stories and nobody did one of them i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► mentioned earlier which is the merchant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► and the alchemist gate which I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► it's about a guy who goes into a shop in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► Baghdad and a man is there who has this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► arch and the arch will take you 20 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► into the future and and theoretically it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► will take you 20 years into the past but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► only after it's been operational for 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► logically but he came his son runs a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► shop in Cairo that also has an arch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► that's been in operation for a while so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► you can go forward or backward in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► and then the main character ends up well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► first there are amusing scenes where he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► sticks his arm through it and waves it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► doesn't come out the other side and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► of that and they look through and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► see who's on the other side it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► the guy but he's all 20 years older but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► he ends up his wife died 20 years before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► and a horrible accident and so he goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► to Cairo and goes back through to 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► years in the past and then comes back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► Baghdad and you know it is on one level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► it is just sort of how many different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► explorations can we have the idea of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► know you can go forward or backward in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► time 20 years but the the way that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► done in this almost Arabian Nights sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► of style and there are these these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► legendary tales that the man who runs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► characters and the whole you know sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► of horrible tragic things that happen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► them when they went through into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► past or the future just you know and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► really i really like it it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► not like a lot of his other stories and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► that it is this kind of fantastical you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► know a kind of amusing also somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► tragic but also some parts of it are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► kind of funny and anyway I like it a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► I think I that stuck with me I I in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► i'd look back and realize that that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► a ted chang story because I hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► realized that but so I love that story I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► don't know if you guys read that but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► love that story i read i just went today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► for the first time and I I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► was it was a beautifully self-contained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2877">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► it's his take on arabian nights and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► i really i really enjoyed that part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► it with a time portal my only problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► why would the main character after he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► talks to the the shopkeeper any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► shopkeeper tells these stories where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► didn't work out the way anyone thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► and yet he still goes through and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► know it's not going to work out the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► he thinks is going to but then I saw you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► light went on and he had to push the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► button exactly is going to say but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► then this is this theme that touching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► explorers and that you don't really have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► free will and everything is predestined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► so no matter what you do it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► matter because it's going to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► anyway hope is the engine that pushes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► you forward but it has no impact on what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► happens when that everything ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► tragically assistant his worldview the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► ted chang worldview so the other story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► that I really like is liking what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► see a documentary Rosalia which is which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► is about the concept that they're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► is this procedure that can be done where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► they put this little helmet on you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► it basically it flips a switch in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► brain and you can no longer you can no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► longer detect whether somebody is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► attractive or unattractive it's shallow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► helped em I suppose if we want to catch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► generally brother's involved along with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► the night at the roxbury sure but i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► going to raise the tone of his condition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► i really thank you and now you used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► give us crazy words that are only in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► dictionary and now you bring up movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► like I've suffered brain damage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► obviously they put on the little helmet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► this is like this is like the worst-case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► scenario when you read that Chang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► stories instead of an alternate your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► brain for the better with expanded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► difference even to an aficionado of SNL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► movies it's so off so like what like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► what you see and it's on a college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► campus and there's some sort of politics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► about about this that there's just some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► of the students who went to schools I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► think of private schools where where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► this procedure was mandatory and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► ideas imagine going to high school and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► having nobody be able to tell the pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► people from the average looking people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► from the ugly people that they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► all people and you have to judge them on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► their personality which is interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2997">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► you know in and of itself that is taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► to this other level which is that at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► this college campus they are talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► about making it mandatory or not and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► some of the kids who are coming from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► these private schools are debating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► whether they should have it turned off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► or not and there's the whole issue of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► this pace of asymmetry right where we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► like this apparently with one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► she's beautiful her boyfriend was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► high school is unattractive but she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► loved him and didn't realize he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► unattractive and she but she doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► she's now sort of thrown in with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► sharks because there are people there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► who are talking to her not because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► her personality but because she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► beautiful and she doesn't even realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► she's beautiful and I just I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► exploration of that again that core idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► technology available to make what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► would think would be like a perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► thing which is to eliminate judging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► people by their looks and then take it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► to the extreme of well it would really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► be that simple and they would actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► be kind of a mess and there are lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► ramifications which is something science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► fiction does really well and I i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► enjoyed that about it was interesting as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► its told in this documentary fashion and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► I was actually thinking that might make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► that might have actually made a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► novel in the sense that you could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► I suppose it wouldn't have been had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► impact because it would have probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► been more like I try to picture a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► sort of imagine it being like a Robert J [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► Sawyer kind of novel there's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► kind of you know overly expanded and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► more young adults and I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► whether you know it would have worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► but I could see it because you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► talk about the you know the kids in high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► school and their relationship and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► talk about them coming to college and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► and it's not told him that way it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► holding this kind of quick cut soundbite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► documentary style of these little bits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► of clips later against each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► the neat part of it too is that I'm one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► movie part is that he's got it's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► his more you more interesting narrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► devices stories that uses but you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3117">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► not just the issue of some of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► technology to remove people's ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► you know see what they see how people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► really look for or against perceived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► beauty right that's the thing is yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► its preceding beauty comes with a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► word what is the word is callie callie's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► what they call it read like Ali agnosia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► which i think is exactly well I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► it's an actual thing that that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► they can be you have a stroke or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► something like that where where it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► turns off this thing in your brain and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► then you can tell it's like the oliver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► sacks kind of thing but there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► actual story just like this that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► have people have a prospect nausea which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► the inability to recognize faces right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► so you can see features but you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► just be all over South the man who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► mistook his wife for a hat and you was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► part of that part of that thing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► very interesting once once you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► discover that some he thinks that five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► to ten percent of the population in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► US has some form of it and once you read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► about prospect nosy it's like reading a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► touching story suddenly got metal ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► the people you know who have it by how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► they behave towards you before you talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► conversation however that said if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► said one of the things that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► underlying so we're talking about one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► thing this cali going to turn on and off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► so that you can proceed whether other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► people are beautiful or not or what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► look like I guess if you've received [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► some perception of their attractiveness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► I then at some point store you find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► that this this consortium that's trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► to advertise trying to lobby against the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► college and in cali has developed this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► new even more horrible technology that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► allows them to directly influence people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► probably right add at the college that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► leaves everyone voting against turning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► kalyan as a mandatory thing and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► it's discovered that the the advertising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► firm is just horrible new thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► never needs to get total ban against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► because it will allow you know every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► dictator in the world to absolutely rule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► yeah because it bypasses your rational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► brain goes straight to the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3237">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► you're hardwired to recognize attractive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► or influenza 00 so like the route all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► the the root language that we speak in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► our brains strange yeah strange attach a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► story all that the thing I was gonna say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► by the way is so there is a real there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► nonfiction bits about a woman who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► she's a beautiful woman has no idea she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► is now a model i believe and she falls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► in love the guy she was in love with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► this origin is a clown because feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► so he is this feature so malleable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► broadly he's apparently a really goofy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► looking guy who cares I'm like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► awesome but why is that awesome you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► start to examine the reasons for it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► becomes extremely convoluted perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► it's because I look like a clown i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► wearing a red button nose right now as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► Crossing your body shoes whenever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► other that's right maybe we all say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► know it's all unfair you should judge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► neta and that story it's like well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► grade but it kind of doesn't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► it's not so simple and if you do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► then there is the flip side which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► they that that woman gives a speech and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► she's right we should do what she says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► and it turns out that they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► all being influenced the other way so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► but before we wrap up I wanted to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► everybody a chance if they if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► something out there that they that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► short story not by ted chang that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► want to to mention a favorite or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► favorite author who does short stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► or potpourri really now it's now's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► anybody have anything i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► recommend David are you sec um it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► because everybody should read we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► out of our minds with joy and he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► have a short story collection on I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► also recommend reading James Morrow's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► Bible stories for adults but again read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► it when you're not in a bad mood and on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► final guys that is that because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► going to put you in a bad mood or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► there-there was married when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► headed toward a bad mood now they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► fantastic stories I mean he has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► beautiful story about a couple that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► inadvertently gives birth to a planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► and it is one of it is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► sweetest stories i have ever read about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► what makes a family and what people do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► for their children and and what it means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► to have to let the child go and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► it's I'd like to before I had children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► and now that I have a daughter and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► reread the story it was a big lump in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► the throat moment so but again there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► some remarkably better stories in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► so you kind of have to watch what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► doing um and I'm going to also put in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► plug for an old-school story collection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► that I I like to read whenever I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► feeling perversely in the mood for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► pickup which is a william gibson's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► collection burning chrome hmm good stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► in there there are there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► good stories in there i especially like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► the one about and event against if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► sounds depressing but it's not really i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► especially like the one about the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► who have to bring back who have to bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► back the astronauts who were picked up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► and abducted by aliens on rapid olga and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► her Stoga olga and her seashell but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► I would if you're looking for sci-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3417">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► horror story collections start with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► alright that's a fascinating story i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3421">TS</a>]
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00:57:07 ◼ ► there they're very much a product of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3427">TS</a>]
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00:57:12 ◼ ► Soviet technology and and the perception [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► of how things are going to shake out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► of course the Japanese are going to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► the world but at the same time a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► the ideas that he follows from point A [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► to point B i find very timeless and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► so then what about you I was gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► recommend something any more broadly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► which is the James Tiptree awards the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► it's a website tiptree dot RG and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3456">TS</a>]
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00:57:41 ◼ ► one of my favorite favorite authors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► eventually will organize enough of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► with some agenda to read tipsy and talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► about her work has her work and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► awards are given two stories and novels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3471">TS</a>]
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00:57:58 ◼ ► is not just like gender bending but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► things that bring up and twist subvert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► explore issues of of the nature of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► gender and so they're not all in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► what's great is the ones they pick that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► up i think three anthologies and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► also give awards have used to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► winners each year they produced looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► like three anthologies and some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► stuff that comes out and that stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► are just sometimes excerpts from novels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► sometimes stories and their marvelous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► stuff that it's it's not pedagogical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► everyone has three genders and why it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► all really subtle interesting things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► particular been trying to figure out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► name of it that some of these funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► things I it's um I believe it's by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► it's a story called looking through lace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► and when you read this story you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► that it'sit's again about linguistics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► about linguists going to other planets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► and the roof nest of all is the name and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► it's um what's great about the story is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3537">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► this woman lands this planet there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► this old cranky linguist has been there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► for a long time sort of mastered it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► like the research university back home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► is like all his work so she goes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► there you find she finds out he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► entirely entirely supported the research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► not just by being a man but by entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► putting it through the filter of his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► gender bias and it's a beautiful story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► and you're reading along certain like Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► over the whole thing just flipped over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► and now it all becomes clear like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► language becomes clear the culture this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► guy's bigotry and there's a great little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► kicker at the analyst literally else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► kicker is a spoiler and for it so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► recommend those collections at all all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► available libraries from the last year's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► know that in the Miles Vorkosigan books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► actually handled very interestingly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► the kind of in interim gender character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► so it's out there and what ursula leguin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:58 ◼ ► left hand of darkness is all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3598">TS</a>]
00:59:58 ◼ ► left hand of darkness is all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3598">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► a strange kind of gender mixings and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3600">TS</a>]
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01:00:07 ◼ ► thoughts for us i don't really read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► short stories all that much i am more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► a I like to read novels but i do stovl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3612">TS</a>]
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01:00:25 ◼ ► far too like the the offer to land all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► out for me so don't have to think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► can you wanted all spelled out for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► I'm a single man at length with time on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► yeah i will mention a short story that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► mentioned in a previous podcast that did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► in fact have an effect on me and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► turned into a novel which wasn't very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3648">TS</a>]
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01:01:01 ◼ ► forty thousand books but sometimes right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► right with one hand a manuscript while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► typing a manuscript with the other takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► here's the thing you can say about being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► a dedicated as laughs reader is i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► read as much as any man is true so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► read all the foundation stuff and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► whatever the robot detective stories and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3681">TS</a>]
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01:01:27 ◼ ► story which was fantastic and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► the novel that he did with opportunity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► silverberg which was less fantastic but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► the basic idea is it's not a planet that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► that is has three sons so it's never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► really night except for one time every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3702">TS</a>]
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01:01:55 ◼ ► society just freaks up to check it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3715">TS</a>]
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01:02:05 ◼ ► eye i have a bunch so I'm gonna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3725">TS</a>]
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01:02:10 ◼ ► loved so much when I read it in analog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3730">TS</a>]
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01:02:18 ◼ ► hindsight by Eric Iverson but that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► believe that's actually like harry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3743">TS</a>]
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01:02:27 ◼ ► a pseudonym but it's a great short story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3747">TS</a>]
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01:02:40 ◼ ► highlight of of science fiction short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► story writing and the end the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3762">TS</a>]
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01:02:57 ◼ ► can't write as a woman and she's riding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3777">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► the short stories and nobody's heard of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3781">TS</a>]
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01:03:17 ◼ ► day trying to explain bits of of history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3797">TS</a>]
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01:03:31 ◼ ► Abraham Lincoln they don't have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► president's I don't know what there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3813">TS</a>]
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01:03:38 ◼ ► back in time not his recent spate of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► those and try and says Thomas Jefferson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3821">TS</a>]
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01:03:47 ◼ ► that is seal the retains its carbonation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► like I believe us its ok so in hindsight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► that the to the real killer moments are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3831">TS</a>]
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01:04:03 ◼ ► of star wars in and they don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3843">TS</a>]
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01:04:08 ◼ ► describes what she's doing you realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3848">TS</a>]
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01:04:12 ◼ ► presses play and Star Wars comes on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► their first thought is oh my god it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3855">TS</a>]
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01:04:21 ◼ ► thought is is that Alec Guinness which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3861">TS</a>]
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01:04:26 ◼ ► talking and she reveals because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► all kind of offended that she's she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► not actually coming up with clever idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► she's stealing ideas from her past and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► that's their future and and she says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► some of them are mind yeah they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► yeah you know that Ted offensive story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► and the Watergate story we knew those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► anyway so I love that story it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► this little short story but I love it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► just pushes all the right buttons for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► about like time travel and showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► historical figures things from our time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► and how cool that would be i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► gardener does noise does well whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► anthology is highly recommended comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► out of every July lots of great stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► and that's where I've read a lot of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► short story writers we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► hearing it in that anthology it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► well done hee-hee-hee preface it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► this kind of ridiculous and boring of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► summation of the year where he like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► lists everything that was ever released [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► in any medium in sci-fi which is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► skip it but I i really love the stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► and then last because I cannot believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► this person's name we have talked for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► hour about sci-fi short stories and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► haven't mentioned this person's name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► whoo-hoo Harlan is a new channels AFC me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► ask you this incredibly nice because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► Oeneus I don't buy my one of my junior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► english teachers who was a sci-fi not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► a renaissance fair person she told us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3957">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► the story about in this isn't the 80,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► your eye or late seventies release in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► that she really is anyway she said in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► the seventies like Harlan Ellison was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► divided to eugene oregon where I grew up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► and he was staying with his family and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► he was so profoundly foul but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► parents couldn't have met their dinner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► tables she had him over to dinner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► because he couldn't sit at a table with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► chairs they say life is nasty brutish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► insured and so is Harlan Ellison but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► that all said that guy that guy can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► write and that guy can make sure it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► the right and some of the most amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► and affecting stories it's not only the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► famous older stuff like repent Harlequin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► or just to drift off the aisles of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► language yeah you know the deathbed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► stories but i really love the shattered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► a collection including saturday and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► paladin lost our which were made into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► new twilight zone episodes that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► actually pretty good but uh his book I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► think it's angry candy which is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4017">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► his recent one of it one of his more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► sort of latter day collections some some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► amazing stuff including a story called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► the function of dream sleep that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► just rip your heart out and another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► story that when both of my kids pass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► my wife and I spent an entire year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► talking about which is a story called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► Jeff ds5 which is about the kids that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► Jeff ds5 he's always five seriously you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► know if you haven't read the short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► stories of Harlan Ellison for pete's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► sake just you know find find one find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► one of the collections and and buy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► disappointed because not only is he an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► amazing stylist but some of the ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► and some of those surgeries are so crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► and it's all kind of magic realism it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► it you know II but it's it's amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► stuff so he is he's not a best short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► story writer i have ever read now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► little-known fact this is a well-known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4077">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► listeners underwear is that Harlan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► Ellison does not revive so all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► stories were written extensively in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► single draught and never revised yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► I'm not sure I so he could believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► but claimed he claims a lot of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► that he wants but but but he has his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► famous only have written for having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► written he used to do this thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► he would write short stories in windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► yeah and that he would write them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► then that would be it and I do believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► that but those aren't his best stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► which is why i don't believe that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► doesn't revise them but and he's he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► getting up there and and he's he wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► something last year that basically said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► I'm gonna die soon and I'm not quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► sure whether that's true or whether he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► just you know what got a complex about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► it but you know he he's got enough stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► in print now I think all of his stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► back in print in fact now I bought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► all when it was all in used bookstores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► and of course now it's all back in print [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► but lot of great collections angry candy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► shattered a desperate stories lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► good stuff out there and if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► see more of Harlan Ellison the man can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► check out Harlan Ellison dreams with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► sharp teeth which is a documentary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► oh my god him available on the character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► is a character there's also there's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► a website run by other people i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► this was designed not just designed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► 1996 what I think designed in a previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► epic like before the wedding yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► designed it thinking the web might work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► yes it's bizarre alice in wonderland you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► mean yes it's very straight and she sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► his desk and get oh yeah it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► it's he said he's a issues i actually i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► actually bought the the city on the edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► of forever the star trek episode that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► wrote i bought the book it's the the his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► original screenplay which is which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► can see why they changed it just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► there's a drug dealers on the enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► but but he's got a whole story about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► getting screwed by the man it in having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► his story changed and the funny thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► about it is that in the process of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► writing this special edition with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► these these comments he discovered the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► Dorothy Fontana who was one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► script of just four star trek and a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:04 ◼ ► friend of Harlan's for all this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4204">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► she's the one who rewrote his episode go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► ahead and he he's almost all most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► fortified not possible to actually be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► mortified if you're Harlan else but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► almost mortified that the person that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► he's been saying I don't know who would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► hack destroyed my episode is this person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► who was his friend for the you know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► the past 20 years and she basically says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► well of course I didn't tell you it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► me you know but so anyway it is possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► that by booking his name is possible he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► will listen you were looking for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► podcast and call us up angrily which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► well can I wanted to actually mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► another at a different editor who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► collections of short stories are worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► reading who I'd forgotten about until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► you guys are talking a few minutes ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► ok song with the past mike resnick be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► alright with mike resnick back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► eighties and nineties pulled together a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► bunch of different collections called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► alternate outlaws alternate heroes or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4256">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► alternate tyrants my favorite that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► collections actually alternate Kennedy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► and as you can imagine all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► historical syfy we're basically someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► says what if X happens instead of Y and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► then takes its logical conclusion such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► as what if mother Theresa became a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► gun-wielding bank bank robber on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► awesome the alternate Kennedy's is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► favorite collection just because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► most of the stories take place in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► fairly recent American epic so if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► moderately familiar with American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► history you can enjoy the riffing such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► as when the Kennedys become a beatles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► s-band oh yeah and and you figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► which one is which one is the John which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaJXnJU/4300">TS</a>]
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