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00:00:00 ◼   ► controllable contest after sold 29-20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/0">TS</a>]

00:00:09 ◼   ► LMAO welcome back to the uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/9">TS</a>]

00:00:11 ◼   ► podcast i am your host Daniel one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/11">TS</a>]

00:00:14 ◼   ► sitting in for Jason's now who for once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/14">TS</a>]

00:00:17 ◼   ► has not read the book that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/17">TS</a>]

00:00:18 ◼   ► subject of our talk tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/18">TS</a>]

00:00:20 ◼   ► now who is illiterate anyways i'm joined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/20">TS</a>]

00:00:25 ◼   ► by a gallery of rogues as you might say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/25">TS</a>]

00:00:27 ◼   ► we have Scott McNulty I Scott hello and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/27">TS</a>]

00:00:32 ◼   ► John siracusa hi John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/32">TS</a>]

00:00:34 ◼   ► hello everybody and the three of us are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/34">TS</a>]

00:00:37 ◼   ► here convening this sort of ad hoc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/37">TS</a>]

00:00:39 ◼   ► meeting at the book club to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/39">TS</a>]

00:00:41 ◼   ► Patrick Rothfuss 'as debut fantasy novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/41">TS</a>]

00:00:45 ◼   ► from 2007 so you know where we're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/45">TS</a>]

00:00:47 ◼   ► little bit behind time I guess it's hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/47">TS</a>]

00:00:49 ◼   ► off the presses the name of the wind and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/49">TS</a>]

00:00:54 ◼   ► part of the reason we're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/54">TS</a>]

00:00:54 ◼   ► it now is that the books sequel The Wise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/54">TS</a>]

00:00:57 ◼   ► Man's Fear just came out what two weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/57">TS</a>]

00:00:59 ◼   ► ago or so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/59">TS</a>]

00:01:01 ◼   ► alright so we're we're here to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/61">TS</a>]

00:01:02 ◼   ► wet your appetite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/62">TS</a>]

00:01:05 ◼   ► if you have not read this series well be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/65">TS</a>]

00:01:09 ◼   ► aware that we are going to have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/69">TS</a>]

00:01:11 ◼   ► spoilers from the first book we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/71">TS</a>]

00:01:12 ◼   ► to try to avoid spoilers from the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/72">TS</a>]

00:01:14 ◼   ► book we haven't all finished reading it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/74">TS</a>]

00:01:15 ◼   ► I think Scott's finish it i'm about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/75">TS</a>]

00:01:17 ◼   ► halfway through John however you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/77">TS</a>]

00:01:19 ◼   ► ten percent i'm a celeb rater it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/79">TS</a>]

00:01:21 ◼   ► it's a long book to it is a half diva [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/81">TS</a>]

00:01:23 ◼   ► it's a lot of its a lot of kindle dots I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/83">TS</a>]

00:01:25 ◼   ► don't know what that means but well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/85">TS</a>]

00:01:28 ◼   ► first one was no was no short one either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/88">TS</a>]

00:01:30 ◼   ► so let's let's just dive right I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/90">TS</a>]

00:01:32 ◼   ► gonna have a heads fire off the spoiler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/92">TS</a>]

00:01:34 ◼   ► harm right now for anybody who has not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/94">TS</a>]

00:01:36 ◼   ► read the name of the way this podcast is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/96">TS</a>]

00:01:38 ◼   ► going to be one probably fairly large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/98">TS</a>]

00:01:40 ◼   ► boiler for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/100">TS</a>]

00:01:42 ◼   ► we will at the end reveal the name of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/102">TS</a>]

00:01:46 ◼   ► the wind it's it's bob bob bob is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/106">TS</a>]

00:01:49 ◼   ► name of the wind up with how hard was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/109">TS</a>]

00:01:51 ◼   ► that I could have been a lot shorter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/111">TS</a>]

00:01:52 ◼   ► book very short book two pages so too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/112">TS</a>]

00:01:57 ◼   ► let's get a little low overview of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/117">TS</a>]

00:01:59 ◼   ► plot of the name of the wind now this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/119">TS</a>]

00:02:01 ◼   ► a fantasy book in some ways I think what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/121">TS</a>]

00:02:04 ◼   ► would interested me about it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/124">TS</a>]

00:02:06 ◼   ► well it has some of the tropes of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/126">TS</a>]

00:02:08 ◼   ► traditional fantasy book it also feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/128">TS</a>]

00:02:10 ◼   ► not entirely like you know your standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/130">TS</a>]

00:02:14 ◼   ► fantasy book I think he plays with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/134">TS</a>]

00:02:17 ◼   ► of the conventions which is nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/137">TS</a>]

00:02:18 ◼   ► it's the story of a man named clothes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/138">TS</a>]

00:02:22 ◼   ► job on that could yeah thanks y'all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/142">TS</a>]

00:02:25 ◼   ► mean he does a good job of pointing out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/145">TS</a>]

00:02:27 ◼   ► in somewhere in the book I think what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/147">TS</a>]

00:02:28 ◼   ► the pronunciation is at some point the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/148">TS</a>]

00:02:30 ◼   ► air corrects somebody a man named for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/150">TS</a>]

00:02:34 ◼   ► both who is kind of a legendary hero and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/154">TS</a>]

00:02:39 ◼   ► the other thing I really love about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/159">TS</a>]

00:02:41 ◼   ► book is that the layering of the stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/161">TS</a>]

00:02:43 ◼   ► in that we get the bulk of it through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/163">TS</a>]

00:02:46 ◼   ► coat size like he's relating this story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/166">TS</a>]

00:02:49 ◼   ► and it's being written down by another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/169">TS</a>]

00:02:52 ◼   ► man who subscribe and so you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/172">TS</a>]

00:02:55 ◼   ► have it it's all sort of tinged with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/175">TS</a>]

00:02:57 ◼   ► memory of how he came to be this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/177">TS</a>]

00:02:59 ◼   ► legendary hero but in that ad that adds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/179">TS</a>]

00:03:03 ◼   ► this interesting this interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/183">TS</a>]

00:03:05 ◼   ► dynamic because we also have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/185">TS</a>]

00:03:06 ◼   ► framing story in which he's doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/186">TS</a>]

00:03:07 ◼   ► relating and it's also there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/187">TS</a>]

00:03:09 ◼   ► other stuff going on with you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/189">TS</a>]

00:03:12 ◼   ► way that the the world is this fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/192">TS</a>]

00:03:14 ◼   ► world is going which is to say not very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/194">TS</a>]

00:03:16 ◼   ► not very well I don't know if there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/196">TS</a>]

00:03:19 ◼   ► good way of summing up sort of what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/199">TS</a>]

00:03:21 ◼   ► what the plot of name of the wind is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/201">TS</a>]

00:03:23 ◼   ► though I don't you guys either of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/203">TS</a>]

00:03:25 ◼   ► have sort of like a like a pity one word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/205">TS</a>]

00:03:28 ◼   ► sentence summary or something because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/208">TS</a>]

00:03:30 ◼   ► would have trouble wrapping up in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/210">TS</a>]

00:03:31 ◼   ► what the plot is if you take out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/211">TS</a>]

00:03:34 ◼   ► whole device of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/214">TS</a>]

00:03:35 ◼   ► the kind of suddenly a bookend but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/215">TS</a>]

00:03:38 ◼   ► know the kind of flashback story it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/218">TS</a>]

00:03:40 ◼   ► fairly straightforward right at the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/220">TS</a>]

00:03:42 ◼   ► otha is that a psychopath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/222">TS</a>]

00:03:44 ◼   ► he is born have a gypsy right and so is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/224">TS</a>]

00:03:48 ◼   ► peace his parents are traveling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/228">TS</a>]

00:03:50 ◼   ► entertainers and he's in this troop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/230">TS</a>]

00:03:53 ◼   ► threw he has some adventures and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/233">TS</a>]

00:03:55 ◼   ► loves his parents and he meets some guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/235">TS</a>]

00:03:57 ◼   ► who can name things and does went to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/237">TS</a>]

00:04:01 ◼   ► University which is this the one school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/241">TS</a>]

00:04:04 ◼   ► in this world I guess where people find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/244">TS</a>]

00:04:07 ◼   ► out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/247">TS</a>]

00:04:07 ◼   ► arcane things and by the way that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/247">TS</a>]

00:04:10 ◼   ► they're having a lot of spoilers in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/250">TS</a>]

00:04:12 ◼   ► one sentence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/252">TS</a>]

00:04:13 ◼   ► huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/253">TS</a>]

00:04:13 ◼   ► [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/253">TS</a>]

00:04:21 ◼   ► and then just passed get killed by these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/261">TS</a>]

00:04:24 ◼   ► with a whole troop gets killed by these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/264">TS</a>]

00:04:27 ◼   ► mysterious yeah kind of fairytale beings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/267">TS</a>]

00:04:31 ◼   ► that comical everyone except for Devon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/271">TS</a>]

00:04:34 ◼   ► third whatever the hell his name is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/274">TS</a>]

00:04:36 ◼   ► because he's out in the forest or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/276">TS</a>]

00:04:39 ◼   ► something and so he comes back you find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/279">TS</a>]

00:04:40 ◼   ► everyone dead he's very sad he goes to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/280">TS</a>]

00:04:43 ◼   ► city he lives as a street urchin for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/283">TS</a>]

00:04:46 ◼   ► couple of years and then he meets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/286">TS</a>]

00:04:48 ◼   ► somebody who inspires him to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/288">TS</a>]

00:04:51 ◼   ► University himself he's accepted to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/291">TS</a>]

00:04:53 ◼   ► University he's a shockingly he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/293">TS</a>]

00:04:56 ◼   ► stellar student at the University he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58 ◼   ► great aptitude he meets a rich guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/298">TS</a>]

00:05:02 ◼   ► is doesn't like him because he's poor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/302">TS</a>]

00:05:03 ◼   ► and he knows a lot more than rich guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/303">TS</a>]

00:05:05 ◼   ► and there you go that's a bit more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/305">TS</a>]

00:05:09 ◼   ► one sentence but but it is a reason on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/309">TS</a>]

00:05:12 ◼   ► said it was it with yeah that's a bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/312">TS</a>]

00:05:14 ◼   ► a comma splice yeah but I think you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/314">TS</a>]

00:05:16 ◼   ► did a good job of telling you know sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/316">TS</a>]

00:05:18 ◼   ► of hitting the high notes there I but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/318">TS</a>]

00:05:20 ◼   ► you know it's not necessarily because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/320">TS</a>]

00:05:22 ◼   ► this is the first book in a series you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/322">TS</a>]

00:05:25 ◼   ► know obviously we don't get like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/325">TS</a>]

00:05:26 ◼   ► everything you know this is only the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/326">TS</a>]

00:05:28 ◼   ► first a part of the art like we service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/328">TS</a>]

00:05:31 ◼   ► were sort of in the name of the when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/331">TS</a>]

00:05:32 ◼   ► you're getting his rise but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/332">TS</a>]

00:05:34 ◼   ► necessarily you know the middle or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/334">TS</a>]

00:05:38 ◼   ► end of the story although you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/338">TS</a>]

00:05:39 ◼   ► impression from the framing story where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/339">TS</a>]

00:05:41 ◼   ► we having both relate this to his his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/341">TS</a>]

00:05:45 ◼   ► scribe that he's sort of come down in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/345">TS</a>]

00:05:49 ◼   ► the world instead since the frame store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/349">TS</a>]

00:05:50 ◼   ► he's an innkeeper and there is some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/350">TS</a>]

00:05:53 ◼   ► suggestion later on at least towards the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/353">TS</a>]

00:05:56 ◼   ► end of the book that he'd these powers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/356">TS</a>]

00:05:58 ◼   ► these amazing powers which made him this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/358">TS</a>]

00:06:00 ◼   ► legendary hero are no longer available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/360">TS</a>]

00:06:02 ◼   ► to him but it was like I said one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/362">TS</a>]

00:06:07 ◼   ► things I really like about it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/367">TS</a>]

00:06:08 ◼   ► sort of the layering of the stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/368">TS</a>]

00:06:10 ◼   ► there i don't know if there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/370">TS</a>]

00:06:11 ◼   ► something in particular they cut you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/371">TS</a>]

00:06:12 ◼   ► guys in terms of why you find this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/372">TS</a>]

00:06:15 ◼   ► assuming you you you like to the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/375">TS</a>]

00:06:17 ◼   ► what about it caught your attention and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/377">TS</a>]

00:06:19 ◼   ► sort of set it apart for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/379">TS</a>]

00:06:21 ◼   ► well I I have a confession to make i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/381">TS</a>]

00:06:23 ◼   ► a very enthusiastic about doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/383">TS</a>]

00:06:25 ◼   ► show this book on the podcast most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/385">TS</a>]

00:06:28 ◼   ► people just want to be on a book podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/388">TS</a>]

00:06:30 ◼   ► and you guys read books way too fast for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/390">TS</a>]

00:06:32 ◼   ► me and I already read this one side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/392">TS</a>]

00:06:33 ◼   ► it was a great opportunity so you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/393">TS</a>]

00:06:35 ◼   ► think I'd be a all set to say lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/395">TS</a>]

00:06:37 ◼   ► wonderful things about this book but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/397">TS</a>]

00:06:39 ◼   ► fact i come here not to praise this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/399">TS</a>]

00:06:41 ◼   ► but area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/401">TS</a>]

00:06:42 ◼   ► oh but it and yet you are reading the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/402">TS</a>]

00:06:45 ◼   ► second one though so that's an injured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/405">TS</a>]

00:06:47 ◼   ► if you didn't like the first one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/407">TS</a>]

00:06:49 ◼   ► yeah so I heard about this book I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/409">TS</a>]

00:06:52 ◼   ► remember her through the internet and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/412">TS</a>]

00:06:54 ◼   ► hadn't read a fantasy book in a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/414">TS</a>]

00:06:55 ◼   ► time and people are making a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/415">TS</a>]

00:06:56 ◼   ► noise about the you know this new guides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/416">TS</a>]

00:06:58 ◼   ► his first book it's a great facebook you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/418">TS</a>]

00:07:00 ◼   ► should read it so I said fine I'll give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/420">TS</a>]

00:07:01 ◼   ► it a try and i started reading it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/421">TS</a>]

00:07:04 ◼   ► the reason i'm reading the sequel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/424">TS</a>]

00:07:06 ◼   ► the reason I'm part of the reason things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/426">TS</a>]

00:07:08 ◼   ► anyways there were a lot of things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/428">TS</a>]

00:07:09 ◼   ► recommend this book I guess I'll start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/429">TS</a>]

00:07:11 ◼   ► before i start shredding at the bits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/431">TS</a>]

00:07:12 ◼   ► with my favorite parts of the book my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/432">TS</a>]

00:07:15 ◼   ► favorite parts about you guys touching a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/435">TS</a>]

00:07:17 ◼   ► lot of them already won i really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/437">TS</a>]

00:07:19 ◼   ► the the whole magic system in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/439">TS</a>]

00:07:23 ◼   ► that the idea of sympathy and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/443">TS</a>]

00:07:26 ◼   ► kind of like the the lame magic where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/446">TS</a>]

00:07:29 ◼   ► you can't really do anything too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/449">TS</a>]

00:07:30 ◼   ► exciting and everything is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/450">TS</a>]

00:07:31 ◼   ► balance by semi physical forces and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/451">TS</a>]

00:07:34 ◼   ► there's like the real magic where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/454">TS</a>]

00:07:35 ◼   ► have that where you're naming things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/455">TS</a>]

00:07:38 ◼   ► that's much more mysterious and not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/458">TS</a>]

00:07:40 ◼   ► commonplace that whole mechanism and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/460">TS</a>]

00:07:42 ◼   ► takes up a lot of the beginning part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/462">TS</a>]

00:07:44 ◼   ► the book that that stuff I like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/464">TS</a>]

00:07:46 ◼   ► thought it was interesting and original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/466">TS</a>]

00:07:48 ◼   ► and a dry like books that do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/468">TS</a>]

00:07:50 ◼   ► interesting with the magic system and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/470">TS</a>]

00:07:54 ◼   ► that pulled me into it but as i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/474">TS</a>]

00:07:56 ◼   ► reading the book you know said that God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/476">TS</a>]

00:07:58 ◼   ► gave a good summary of like gypsy dude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/478">TS</a>]

00:08:01 ◼   ► big bad thing happens to the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/481">TS</a>]

00:08:03 ◼   ► of the book everybody killed then his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/483">TS</a>]

00:08:05 ◼   ► you know down period where he's living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/485">TS</a>]

00:08:07 ◼   ► in the streets and stuff like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/487">TS</a>]

00:08:09 ◼   ► then sort of his rise up through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/489">TS</a>]

00:08:10 ◼   ► university but as I was going through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/490">TS</a>]

00:08:12 ◼   ► the book in in ebook form i was looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/492">TS</a>]

00:08:15 ◼   ► at the little progress meter to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/495">TS</a>]

00:08:16 ◼   ► certain point I realized wait a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/496">TS</a>]

00:08:17 ◼   ► there's no way they can wrap this up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/497">TS</a>]

00:08:20 ◼   ► like this is just gonna end I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/500">TS</a>]

00:08:23 ◼   ► rapidly approaching the end of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/503">TS</a>]

00:08:24 ◼   ► and almost nothing has happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26 ◼   ► how ya gonna get it is the first book in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/506">TS</a>]

00:08:29 ◼   ► the series so if that's not that big of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31 ◼   ► a deal but it kind of bothered me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/511">TS</a>]

00:08:34 ◼   ► little bit and I was like well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/514">TS</a>]

00:08:35 ◼   ► just keep going to apply the rest of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/515">TS</a>]

00:08:37 ◼   ► throat by the time i was done i had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/517">TS</a>]

00:08:40 ◼   ► lot a lot of complaints about this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42 ◼   ► and I couldn't believe people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/522">TS</a>]

00:08:43 ◼   ► raving about it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/523">TS</a>]

00:08:44 ◼   ► because this great fantasy novel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/524">TS</a>]

00:08:45 ◼   ► maybe that is hadn't read fast and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/525">TS</a>]

00:08:47 ◼   ► in a long time this is actually an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/527">TS</a>]

00:08:50 ◼   ► excellent example of the genre and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/530">TS</a>]

00:08:52 ◼   ► just remember the other ones family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/532">TS</a>]

00:08:53 ◼   ► because I was a younger person when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/533">TS</a>]

00:08:54 ◼   ► read them I don't know but before I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56 ◼   ► through my list of things can you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/536">TS</a>]

00:08:58 ◼   ► think of anything about the book that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/538">TS</a>]

00:08:59 ◼   ► you didn't like what do you think I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/539">TS</a>]

00:09:00 ◼   ► gonna complain about besides that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/540">TS</a>]

00:09:02 ◼   ► plot stuff that I just did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/542">TS</a>]

00:09:04 ◼   ► well I for one hit this is another so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/544">TS</a>]

00:09:06 ◼   ► what's included both is a I can't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/546">TS</a>]

00:09:10 ◼   ► his name so i don't like that be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/550">TS</a>]

00:09:12 ◼   ► ah he's another one of these main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/552">TS</a>]

00:09:14 ◼   ► characters that is incredibly good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/554">TS</a>]

00:09:16 ◼   ► everything right which I find a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/556">TS</a>]

00:09:18 ◼   ► annoying everything he tried she like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/558">TS</a>]

00:09:20 ◼   ► the best flute player in the world that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/560">TS</a>]

00:09:23 ◼   ► he writes all these songs that everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/563">TS</a>]

00:09:25 ◼   ► knows and he's the best in this class at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/565">TS</a>]

00:09:27 ◼   ► everything and it gets to be a bit much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/567">TS</a>]

00:09:29 ◼   ► because he has all these these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/569">TS</a>]

00:09:31 ◼   ► challenges that are set before him right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/571">TS</a>]

00:09:33 ◼   ► but you know he's going to successfully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/573">TS</a>]

00:09:35 ◼   ► overcome them because he's the smartest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/575">TS</a>]

00:09:37 ◼   ► person in the book he's the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/577">TS</a>]

00:09:38 ◼   ► talented freshmen in the book he has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/578">TS</a>]

00:09:41 ◼   ► best voice in the book maybe a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/581">TS</a>]

00:09:43 ◼   ► flaw here in there wasn't a lot i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/583">TS</a>]

00:09:45 ◼   ► think i think baby at least i'll counter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/585">TS</a>]

00:09:47 ◼   ► that by saying that I think that any is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/587">TS</a>]

00:09:49 ◼   ► definitely true you know he's definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/589">TS</a>]

00:09:50 ◼   ► plays pictured as this character is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/590">TS</a>]

00:09:52 ◼   ► incredibly clever i like the times when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/592">TS</a>]

00:09:55 ◼   ► his cleverness doesn't do it for him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/595">TS</a>]

00:09:58 ◼   ► he's like he's shown it like getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/598">TS</a>]

00:10:00 ◼   ► ahead of himself I think there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/600">TS</a>]

00:10:02 ◼   ► couple of good examples one of which in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/602">TS</a>]

00:10:03 ◼   ► his sort of read his report a with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/603">TS</a>]

00:10:06 ◼   ► he really wants to study under the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/606">TS</a>]

00:10:08 ◼   ► who who is the master of the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/608">TS</a>]

00:10:10 ◼   ► esoteric naming magic who is a bit of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/610">TS</a>]

00:10:13 ◼   ► was he's crazy I'll put it that way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/613">TS</a>]

00:10:16 ◼   ► I think you know that guy in I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/616">TS</a>]

00:10:18 ◼   ► this comes more in the second book but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/618">TS</a>]

00:10:20 ◼   ► you know that is the sort of the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/620">TS</a>]

00:10:22 ◼   ► thing that seems to elude him and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/622">TS</a>]

00:10:25 ◼   ► think you know the it illuminates a part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/625">TS</a>]

00:10:28 ◼   ► of his character where he is not a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/628">TS</a>]

00:10:30 ◼   ► he's he's smart but he lacks a bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/630">TS</a>]

00:10:33 ◼   ► common sense he's always doing things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/633">TS</a>]

00:10:35 ◼   ► rushing in he's a bit impetuous and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/635">TS</a>]

00:10:38 ◼   ► sometimes they get him in trouble and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/638">TS</a>]

00:10:39 ◼   ► think that's that's sort of what i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/639">TS</a>]

00:10:41 ◼   ► about him is that he is as smart as he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/641">TS</a>]

00:10:43 ◼   ► is he is very often it seems too smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/643">TS</a>]

00:10:46 ◼   ► for his own good but perhaps that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/646">TS</a>]

00:10:49 ◼   ► me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/649">TS</a>]

00:10:50 ◼   ► alright so that was on my list i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/650">TS</a>]

00:10:52 ◼   ► expound on morning you guys covered the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/652">TS</a>]

00:10:54 ◼   ► basic points anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/654">TS</a>]

00:10:56 ◼   ► I let's see what else i didn't like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/656">TS</a>]

00:10:58 ◼   ► look i don't know i understand all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/658">TS</a>]

00:11:00 ◼   ► things that I i should say that I did in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/660">TS</a>]

00:11:02 ◼   ► fact enjoy the book was given before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/662">TS</a>]

00:11:04 ◼   ► like John's got you on his side he sucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/664">TS</a>]

00:11:07 ◼   ► you into the city you tonight as not too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/667">TS</a>]

00:11:09 ◼   ► hard to turn Scott to the negative side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/669">TS</a>]

00:11:11 ◼   ► it's true I am generally more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/671">TS</a>]

00:11:14 ◼   ► predisposed to not liking something so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/674">TS</a>]

00:11:17 ◼   ► the other thing i did not like is what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/677">TS</a>]

00:11:19 ◼   ► the the character and Dina Dana whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/679">TS</a>]

00:11:22 ◼   ► has the the little love interest i found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/682">TS</a>]

00:11:25 ◼   ► that whole dynamic annoying i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/685">TS</a>]

00:11:27 ◼   ► if you guys do remember but yeah so so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/687">TS</a>]

00:11:30 ◼   ► guess i'm not entirely crazy because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/690">TS</a>]

00:11:31 ◼   ► that my two of my three pillars of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/691">TS</a>]

00:11:35 ◼   ► things that didn't like about this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/695">TS</a>]

00:11:36 ◼   ► for one the plot but just when / where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/696">TS</a>]

00:11:38 ◼   ► that it didn't seem like it was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/698">TS</a>]

00:11:39 ◼   ► anywhere especially since it had those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/699">TS</a>]

00:11:40 ◼   ► like side adventures with the Dragon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/700">TS</a>]

00:11:43 ◼   ► he's often that town there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/703">TS</a>]

00:11:45 ◼   ► University section was like lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/705">TS</a>]

00:11:46 ◼   ► interconnected short stories but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/706">TS</a>]

00:11:48 ◼   ► was no like overall arc and you can even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/708">TS</a>]

00:11:50 ◼   ► see like the beginning of an arc like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/710">TS</a>]

00:11:52 ◼   ► where it's going to go because it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/712">TS</a>]

00:11:53 ◼   ► framing stories so far down the road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/713">TS</a>]

00:11:55 ◼   ► from his various adventures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/715">TS</a>]

00:11:57 ◼   ► yeah that you just I can't connect the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/717">TS</a>]

00:11:59 ◼   ► dots yet maybe it's gonna be 20 book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/719">TS</a>]

00:12:00 ◼   ► series so in which case you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/720">TS</a>]

00:12:02 ◼   ► it's going to be a three-book series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/722">TS</a>]

00:12:04 ◼   ► will be dead by the time he finishes at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/724">TS</a>]

00:12:05 ◼   ► this right but that's so the character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/725">TS</a>]

00:12:08 ◼   ► is another thing you know that the Mary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/728">TS</a>]

00:12:10 ◼   ► Sue disease that he was that right on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/730">TS</a>]

00:12:12 ◼   ► the head he's good at everything every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/732">TS</a>]

00:12:15 ◼   ► woman he meets loves him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/735">TS</a>]

00:12:16 ◼   ► you know it is flawed yet it's more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/736">TS</a>]

00:12:19 ◼   ► like it you know its laws that he's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/739">TS</a>]

00:12:21 ◼   ► smart for his own good but i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/741">TS</a>]

00:12:23 ◼   ► that's not a great when you're an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/743">TS</a>]

00:12:24 ◼   ► interview and they say well what's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/744">TS</a>]

00:12:26 ◼   ► greatest weakness I work too hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/746">TS</a>]

00:12:28 ◼   ► sometimes I'm just too clever for my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/748">TS</a>]

00:12:30 ◼   ► good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/750">TS</a>]

00:12:31 ◼   ► yeah yeah but the worst part the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/751">TS</a>]

00:12:34 ◼   ► that gave me that the worst taste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/754">TS</a>]

00:12:36 ◼   ► throughout the entire book which it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/756">TS</a>]

00:12:38 ◼   ► still bothers me is the treatment of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/758">TS</a>]

00:12:40 ◼   ► women this book should really should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/760">TS</a>]

00:12:42 ◼   ► have a course and you know creative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/762">TS</a>]

00:12:43 ◼   ► writing courses of how not to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/763">TS</a>]

00:12:45 ◼   ► women because women only exist in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/765">TS</a>]

00:12:47 ◼   ► book as sexual objects and every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/767">TS</a>]

00:12:52 ◼   ► they come on the scene they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/772">TS</a>]

00:12:54 ◼   ► described in terms of their beauty and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/774">TS</a>]

00:12:56 ◼   ► attractiveness to the character and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/776">TS</a>]

00:12:58 ◼   ► that's the only value they add even as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/778">TS</a>]

00:13:00 ◼   ► this den a person or whatever she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/780">TS</a>]

00:13:03 ◼   ► she's a horrible person there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/783">TS</a>]

00:13:04 ◼   ► to recommend her there's no reason he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06 ◼   ► should be a tractor and anyway but every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/786">TS</a>]

00:13:08 ◼   ► architects fellow-feeling or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/788">TS</a>]

00:13:10 ◼   ► like any any female character Debbie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/790">TS</a>]

00:13:12 ◼   ► that the moneylender anytime they come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/792">TS</a>]

00:13:14 ◼   ► on the screen so to speak it there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/794">TS</a>]

00:13:16 ◼   ► immediately described in terms of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/796">TS</a>]

00:13:17 ◼   ► attractive they are and very sexual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/797">TS</a>]

00:13:20 ◼   ► innuendo and if it was done in either an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/800">TS</a>]

00:13:23 ◼   ► omniscient narrator or first person from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/803">TS</a>]

00:13:26 ◼   ► the perspective of the young one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/806">TS</a>]

00:13:27 ◼   ► maybe you could excuse that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/807">TS</a>]

00:13:29 ◼   ► that's like maybe 18 year old Sol have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/809">TS</a>]

00:13:30 ◼   ► AC women you know when you're that age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/810">TS</a>]

00:13:32 ◼   ► or however old you supposed to be but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/812">TS</a>]

00:13:33 ◼   ► it's being told by the older wiser one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/813">TS</a>]

00:13:35 ◼   ► he's the one relaying the tail as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/815">TS</a>]

00:13:37 ◼   ► can't come up with any sort of rational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/817">TS</a>]

00:13:39 ◼   ► explanation for how horrible women are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/819">TS</a>]

00:13:41 ◼   ► treated in this book and it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/821">TS</a>]

00:13:43 ◼   ► great sonmi and it's like if we can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/823">TS</a>]

00:13:45 ◼   ► any women characters know they only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/825">TS</a>]

00:13:47 ◼   ► exist as pleasure centers and desire you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/827">TS</a>]

00:13:51 ◼   ► know tiny pinpoints of desire for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/831">TS</a>]

00:13:54 ◼   ► male characters in the book and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/834">TS</a>]

00:13:56 ◼   ► more than anything else just like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/836">TS</a>]

00:13:58 ◼   ► bothers me immensely i don't know why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00 ◼   ► bother maybe it was the same and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/840">TS</a>]

00:14:01 ◼   ► other fantasy books i read and i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/841">TS</a>]

00:14:03 ◼   ► notice but I noticed that a lot in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/843">TS</a>]

00:14:04 ◼   ► one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/844">TS</a>]

00:14:05 ◼   ► well that I mean that'sthat's a I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/845">TS</a>]

00:14:07 ◼   ► that's very often a criticism of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/847">TS</a>]

00:14:09 ◼   ► fantasy and science fiction genre in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/849">TS</a>]

00:14:11 ◼   ► general and you know there's obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/851">TS</a>]

00:14:13 ◼   ► could probably spend almost entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/853">TS</a>]

00:14:15 ◼   ► podcast discussing why that's the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/855">TS</a>]

00:14:17 ◼   ► but we won't dealt too much into scifi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/857">TS</a>]

00:14:20 ◼   ► find it less because sci-fi friends away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/860">TS</a>]

00:14:23 ◼   ► i think it really depends on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/863">TS</a>]

00:14:24 ◼   ► you-know-what syfy reading but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26 ◼   ► that in the in the very like sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/866">TS</a>]

00:14:29 ◼   ► violence a traditional but like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/869">TS</a>]

00:14:31 ◼   ► that's one of the tropes I feel like of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/871">TS</a>]

00:14:33 ◼   ► science fiction and fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/873">TS</a>]

00:14:35 ◼   ► well but then again that's problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/875">TS</a>]

00:14:36 ◼   ► primarily a male-dominated field i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/876">TS</a>]

00:14:39 ◼   ► gonna say like the most damning thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/879">TS</a>]

00:14:40 ◼   ► can say about the women in this book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/880">TS</a>]

00:14:41 ◼   ► that talking has better women characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/881">TS</a>]

00:14:43 ◼   ► he's got like three thousand facebook at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/883">TS</a>]

00:14:46 ◼   ► least his characters like least they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/886">TS</a>]

00:14:49 ◼   ► relate to the world and the other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/889">TS</a>]

00:14:50 ◼   ► in the book as something other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/890">TS</a>]

00:14:52 ◼   ► sexual objects they have their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/892">TS</a>]

00:14:54 ◼   ► motivations their own feelings their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/894">TS</a>]

00:14:56 ◼   ► you know agendas and every single one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/896">TS</a>]

00:14:59 ◼   ► them isn't immediately described in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/899">TS</a>]

00:15:01 ◼   ► terms of how they are attracted to or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/901">TS</a>]

00:15:03 ◼   ► track or you know drawn towards that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05 ◼   ► male characters how the male characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/905">TS</a>]

00:15:07 ◼   ► drawn to them now that and I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/907">TS</a>]

00:15:10 ◼   ► to go on playing about this book saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/910">TS</a>]

00:15:11 ◼   ► horrible Derek is obviously i'm reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/911">TS</a>]

00:15:13 ◼   ► the sequel so it must be something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/913">TS</a>]

00:15:14 ◼   ► recommend it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/914">TS</a>]

00:15:15 ◼   ► and i think the the set the interest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/915">TS</a>]

00:15:18 ◼   ► the setting and the fact that the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/918">TS</a>]

00:15:20 ◼   ► book didn't go anywhere makes me makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/920">TS</a>]

00:15:22 ◼   ► me want to know where it's going like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/922">TS</a>]

00:15:23 ◼   ► because that they teased you know those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/923">TS</a>]

00:15:24 ◼   ► those evil guys who kill this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/924">TS</a>]

00:15:26 ◼   ► troop that if we don't know anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/926">TS</a>]

00:15:27 ◼   ► about that we spent the whole first book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/927">TS</a>]

00:15:29 ◼   ► trying to study them but wasn't allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/929">TS</a>]

00:15:30 ◼   ► in the library for the whole book for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/930">TS</a>]

00:15:32 ◼   ► name you know bad sitcom reasons if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/932">TS</a>]

00:15:37 ◼   ► that's another thing with it right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/937">TS</a>]

00:15:38 ◼   ► there are coincidences books that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/938">TS</a>]

00:15:39 ◼   ► be clear its situations books will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/939">TS</a>]

00:15:41 ◼   ► cleared up with just a simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/941">TS</a>]

00:15:42 ◼   ► explanation but you know the master was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/942">TS</a>]

00:15:43 ◼   ► like nope don't want to hear about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/943">TS</a>]

00:15:45 ◼   ► don't wanna hear about any of this yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/945">TS</a>]

00:15:46 ◼   ► he gave youcandl no but I don't hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/946">TS</a>]

00:15:48 ◼   ► about that all tough luck the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/948">TS</a>]

00:15:49 ◼   ► the book you're not learn anything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/949">TS</a>]

00:15:50 ◼   ► them so i guess what the way to book to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/950">TS</a>]

00:15:52 ◼   ► learn anything you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/952">TS</a>]

00:15:55 ◼   ► yeah so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/955">TS</a>]

00:15:58 ◼   ► things like that are teased and and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/958">TS</a>]

00:16:01 ◼   ► keeps me wondering like alright so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/961">TS</a>]

00:16:02 ◼   ► he's got a really good idea about these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/962">TS</a>]

00:16:04 ◼   ► guys maybe the overall story is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/964">TS</a>]

00:16:05 ◼   ► clever because I've learned so little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/965">TS</a>]

00:16:06 ◼   ► about it that I'm willing to go on so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/966">TS</a>]

00:16:09 ◼   ► i'll read the second book and still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/969">TS</a>]

00:16:11 ◼   ► nothing happens the end of the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/971">TS</a>]

00:16:12 ◼   ► book i'll probably start to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/972">TS</a>]

00:16:13 ◼   ► frustrated you will start to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/973">TS</a>]

00:16:16 ◼   ► frustrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/976">TS</a>]

00:16:16 ◼   ► yeah i mean the thing is that the fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/976">TS</a>]

00:16:18 ◼   ► read like all these things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/978">TS</a>]

00:16:19 ◼   ► wrong with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/979">TS</a>]

00:16:20 ◼   ► they are typical the fantasy genre and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/980">TS</a>]

00:16:22 ◼   ► find that you know it's a fast read and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/982">TS</a>]

00:16:24 ◼   ► you don't have doesn't take too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/984">TS</a>]

00:16:25 ◼   ► mental energy to read through it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/985">TS</a>]

00:16:28 ◼   ► people like reading about these sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/988">TS</a>]

00:16:29 ◼   ► power fantasy books where the guy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/989">TS</a>]

00:16:31 ◼   ► wonderful couldn't everything and he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/991">TS</a>]

00:16:33 ◼   ► opposed by unfair forces of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/993">TS</a>]

00:16:35 ◼   ► rich guy picking on the poor guy or he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/995">TS</a>]

00:16:37 ◼   ► always needs money we can all relate to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/997">TS</a>]

00:16:39 ◼   ► that and you know but he's really clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/999">TS</a>]

00:16:41 ◼   ► and good stuff so he overcomes it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:43 ◼   ► know it's it's a easy to digest story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:46 ◼   ► they could probably made into an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:47 ◼   ► interesting movie that would be easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49 ◼   ► digest but it's not it's not sort of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:51 ◼   ► adult sophisticate story I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:54 ◼   ► yeah i mean there there's certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:56 ◼   ► something to be said that in that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:58 ◼   ► you know the plot the obstacles that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:00 ◼   ► faces are are fairly mundane it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:03 ◼   ► like 4a for fantasy book for especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05 ◼   ► for something would you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:06 ◼   ► implies there is this grand scale I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:09 ◼   ► yes you know there is the issue of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:10 ◼   ► family being killed but you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:12 ◼   ► you said a lot of the wedding struggles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:14 ◼   ► with his is like money problems and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:16 ◼   ► being harassed by this guy at school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:18 ◼   ► this is not a chasing that girl who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:20 ◼   ► write worth chasing well which is none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:22 ◼   ► of which is necessarily your typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:24 ◼   ► like you know fantasy right you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:26 ◼   ► they seem a lot more like teenage and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28 ◼   ► course our character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:29 ◼   ► he's also you know precociously young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:30 ◼   ► right he's like like 16 or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:33 ◼   ► then things mixed in with that they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:35 ◼   ► that story that you hear about like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:37 ◼   ► the legendary backstory of these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:39 ◼   ► in the kings and that's like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:40 ◼   ► that's fantasy book type stuff for he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:42 ◼   ► talks all about you know that the king [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:45 ◼   ► who goes blind and the various deals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:46 ◼   ► they made in the origin of these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:48 ◼   ► will kill that is just a hundred percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:49 ◼   ► hardcore epic fantasy but then you come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:52 ◼   ► back as like that and it was just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:53 ◼   ► story so now i need to try to get some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:55 ◼   ► more money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:55 ◼   ► well and that is one of the things i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:58 ◼   ► enjoy about the book at least was those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1078">TS</a>]

00:17:59 ◼   ► layering of stories where you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:02 ◼   ► i said we already have this framing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:03 ◼   ► story in this guy relating a story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:05 ◼   ► then inside of that we often have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:06 ◼   ► another layer of story that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:08 ◼   ► comes in there and I think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:10 ◼   ► clearly rock this has an interest in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:11 ◼   ► sort of delving into the lore of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:14 ◼   ► world that he's created in a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:16 ◼   ► times that's you know that's fun and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:18 ◼   ► interesting you know sort of side trip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20 ◼   ► even if it is always tangential to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:22 ◼   ► story itself i'm curious i mean is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:25 ◼   ► anything in particular that stood out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:27 ◼   ► you as you know moments that you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:31 ◼   ► really enjoy John McHugh flip this on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:33 ◼   ► your head is like there anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:34 ◼   ► particular tales yeah well yeah I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36 ◼   ► favorite scene that I should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38 ◼   ► written down was thinking last night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:40 ◼   ► angel was over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:41 ◼   ► no i didn't i didn't like that I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:43 ◼   ► like that bookend thing where they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:44 ◼   ► there with a prologue and epilogue or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:46 ◼   ► like the same except for a couple words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:47 ◼   ► with little change in perspective I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:49 ◼   ► don't think he pulled that off was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:52 ◼   ► favorite scene I that probably my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:53 ◼   ► favorite scene was when he's on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:55 ◼   ► rooftop with the Loudoun or whatever his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:56 ◼   ► name is and he's trying to you know get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:58 ◼   ► them to come on board he tells me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:00 ◼   ► jump off the roof and he doesn't cuz i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:03 ◼   ► got a chuckle out of that just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:04 ◼   ► that that's that's an example of why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06 ◼   ► like this book because it it plays on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:09 ◼   ► the on the conventions in any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:11 ◼   ► fantasy book you know he would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:12 ◼   ► jumped off and been caught in the air by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14 ◼   ► magic approved it's worth or not jumped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:16 ◼   ► off and I guess what jumps off it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:17 ◼   ► breaks his legs or whatever happened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:19 ◼   ► my I remember it vaguely but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:21 ◼   ► interactions with him tend to not be as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:26 ◼   ► stereotypical and and it is because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:28 ◼   ► situation which he doesn't have all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:30 ◼   ► answers I don't know what I still think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:33 ◼   ► the character is so very Merry situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:35 ◼   ► i don't think this counts as a character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:36 ◼   ► flaw but at least he has genuine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:38 ◼   ► interactions in a situation where ma or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:41 ◼   ► whatever saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:42 ◼   ► the dramas were two characters one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:44 ◼   ► character want something at the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:45 ◼   ► the scene he doesn't get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:46 ◼   ► that's pretty much every scene between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:48 ◼   ► growth and Ellen if I'm mispronouncing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:50 ◼   ► both of those names so I enjoy all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:52 ◼   ► interactions and the roof seen in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:54 ◼   ► particular with other yes i would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:56 ◼   ► said that was among my favorites too i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:58 ◼   ► think another one of my another one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:01 ◼   ► I really enjoyed from the first book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:03 ◼   ► the the the first scene where he gets in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:05 ◼   ► the first service team we have to prove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:07 ◼   ► himself to be admitted to the University [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:09 ◼   ► any part of what i liked about that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:11 ◼   ► that you know yes he's very clever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:13 ◼   ► that's that's the scene where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:14 ◼   ► demonstrates again that is clever but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:16 ◼   ► think one of the other things i kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:17 ◼   ► liked about that was that he also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:19 ◼   ► there's a whole point made out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:20 ◼   ► fact that he kind of cheats in that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:22 ◼   ► sits he sort of sneaks into this place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:24 ◼   ► and and listen to everybody else's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:26 ◼   ► questions to see what they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:28 ◼   ► ask before he does that and I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:30 ◼   ► know to me that speaks to one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:32 ◼   ► things that I that I like about quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:34 ◼   ► that is not necessarily just that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:35 ◼   ► says you know you so smart and clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:37 ◼   ► but he cheats right you know he tries to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:40 ◼   ► figure out shortcuts and I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:42 ◼   ► one of those flaws that I that I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:44 ◼   ► liked about him that's his kobayashi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:46 ◼   ► brew moment that says that's a street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:49 ◼   ► urchin thing like that's that's the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:51 ◼   ► interesting part of this character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:52 ◼   ► because he's insufferable when he's with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:53 ◼   ► his family is like over wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:55 ◼   ► gypsies were artists and we all love art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:57 ◼   ► and we're happy and my parents loved me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:59 ◼   ► in there there you know these they're 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:00 ◼   ► feet tall and towering above me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:02 ◼   ► giving me advice about it you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:05 ◼   ► he goes through that experience living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:06 ◼   ► on your pretty excited when they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:07 ◼   ► murdered huh yeah i got those guys are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:11 ◼   ► dead the murder didn't hit me that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:12 ◼   ► because it's like they're just they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:15 ◼   ► visible problems characterization every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:17 ◼   ► characteristic of the main characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:18 ◼   ► really cookie cutter like think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:19 ◼   ► his friends like sim and whoever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:22 ◼   ► friends and they're just there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:24 ◼   ► to them they're they're barely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:25 ◼   ► characters if you have to say what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:27 ◼   ► distinguishes one of his friends from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:28 ◼   ► the other and same thing with the girls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:30 ◼   ► are just you know that this is not a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:33 ◼   ► there in the same was true of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:34 ◼   ► parents so I didn't hit me that hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:35 ◼   ► when he died because i didn't buy into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:37 ◼   ► the whole like I've analogous to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:39 ◼   ► seem real but when he's down and out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:41 ◼   ► as sort of a homeless kid and I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:43 ◼   ► through all those troubles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:44 ◼   ► everything that adds an aspect of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:46 ◼   ► character is more interesting i think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:47 ◼   ► should focus more on that if they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:50 ◼   ► to like you know enhances character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:52 ◼   ► flaws and believable way that things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:54 ◼   ► where he does things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:55 ◼   ► you know morally ambiguous it's you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:57 ◼   ► ahead and that seemingly doesn't regret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1317">TS</a>]

00:22:00 ◼   ► them you know and he does that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:03 ◼   ► doing that in the second book now tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:04 ◼   ► me how to continue to do things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:06 ◼   ► aren't particularly heroic or Noble or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:10 ◼   ► that his parents went to grow but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:11 ◼   ► isn't they don't seem to bother amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:12 ◼   ► of he's a sociopath or they're just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:14 ◼   ► just not very big on introspection you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:16 ◼   ► know they want my dad think if he knew I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:18 ◼   ► was cheating to get into the sea he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:20 ◼   ► raised me so well and honorably or just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:21 ◼   ► you know all gypsies sheets are Gypsy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:23 ◼   ► listeners for the stairs at the risk of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:26 ◼   ► you know making us sound like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:30 ◼   ► practiced all totally in the pit of not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:33 ◼   ► liking things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:34 ◼   ► well its got diseases or anything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:36 ◼   ► particularly that stood out to you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:37 ◼   ► you did like I know we talked a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:39 ◼   ► bit about what you didn't like well I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:42 ◼   ► i did--like i read the book when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:45 ◼   ► first came out so i don't remember any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:46 ◼   ► particular scenes but I did like the how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:50 ◼   ► he goes about building his I mean this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:52 ◼   ► is kind of a term tossed around in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:54 ◼   ► science fiction and fantasy world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:56 ◼   ► building right so i think that he does a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:58 ◼   ► good job of I may not like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:00 ◼   ► characters but i think the world that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:02 ◼   ► puts them in is very interesting and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:05 ◼   ► does he built that world in such a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:07 ◼   ► of not really telling us about it my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:10 ◼   ► kind of having his characters interact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:11 ◼   ► in it and then you know telling stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:14 ◼   ► about the world and setting it up so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:15 ◼   ► don't really see much of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:17 ◼   ► because you only see what could both is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:20 ◼   ► is interacting with but you know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:23 ◼   ► a lot more stuff out there and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25 ◼   ► kings and there are their stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27 ◼   ► happening that you don't really see so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:29 ◼   ► think that it makes the setting very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31 ◼   ► interesting to me i think that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:33 ◼   ► you know and traditionally that's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:35 ◼   ► part of fantasy right is world-building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:36 ◼   ► that's why many of us read these these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:39 ◼   ► fantasy books to sort of see what on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:41 ◼   ► what other worlds that these writers can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:43 ◼   ► put together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:44 ◼   ► I you know I think that there's a lot I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:48 ◼   ► mean despite John's misgivings I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:50 ◼   ► our are you know some of them are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:52 ◼   ► accurate i think there are there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:53 ◼   ► definitely shortcomings in the book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:55 ◼   ► I mean I'm going to get the Bible slacks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:57 ◼   ► and seduces first book but you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:59 ◼   ► know there's definitely room for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:00 ◼   ► improvement and you know it's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:04 ◼   ► things I've been looking forward to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:05 ◼   ► reading the second book for awhile i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:06 ◼   ► came across this book first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:08 ◼   ► actually the year it came out i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:10 ◼   ► because it was the onion AV club's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:14 ◼   ► Book of the Year like the best book they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16 ◼   ► read in 2007 see never how could that be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:19 ◼   ► possible that's that's probably a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:21 ◼   ► what's happening here is the overhyping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:22 ◼   ► like I read it after so many people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:24 ◼   ► said so many things about it so I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:26 ◼   ► really expecting something special and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:27 ◼   ► you know for all the good things like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:30 ◼   ► I'd come in unknown on and i probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:31 ◼   ► would have been up on those bugs i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:33 ◼   ► thought this book was gonna be another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:34 ◼   ► garbage fantasy but actually had some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:36 ◼   ► interesting things instead i'm coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:37 ◼   ► into it as this is the best fantasy book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:40 ◼   ► in the past 10 years and every did say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:41 ◼   ► no it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:43 ◼   ► well i was thinking about that as I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:45 ◼   ► know we're prepared for this podcast I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:47 ◼   ► i sat in a quiet room and just pondered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:49 ◼   ► the book as I often do and I after I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:52 ◼   ► finished reading it I thought to myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:54 ◼   ► I remember thinking very clearly this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:56 ◼   ► unlike any fantasy book i have ever read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:58 ◼   ► you think it's unlike unlevel that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:01 ◼   ► what I after i read it that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:03 ◼   ► thought but then through the years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:05 ◼   ► thinking about what happened in the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:06 ◼   ► I thought to myself this is pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:09 ◼   ► what fantasy books are starting to shine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:12 ◼   ► think about because I mean the story is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:14 ◼   ► very traditional right you know it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:17 ◼   ► guy who overcomes lot of challenges and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:19 ◼   ► becomes this legend but i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:22 ◼   ► interesting part of it and i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:24 ◼   ► if this happens in the first book but so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:26 ◼   ► it definitely in the second book he kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:28 ◼   ► of in the the book and a story he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:32 ◼   ► relates how he kind of he himself during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:36 ◼   ► when he was a kid created these legends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:38 ◼   ► about himself that you then here later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:40 ◼   ► on so like you know he started spreading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:42 ◼   ► the rumors about you know the various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:44 ◼   ► powers that he had that he didn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:45 ◼   ► have but he just kind of planted those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:48 ◼   ► stories and well yea yea that there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50 ◼   ► really good scene in the first book that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:52 ◼   ► I quite liked where's the he gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:54 ◼   ► punished for doing something at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:55 ◼   ► University and he gets whipped and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:58 ◼   ► makes a point of taking this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:01 ◼   ► drug or whatever that will prevent him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:03 ◼   ► from bleeding so he doesn't you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:07 ◼   ► has included so essentially is a point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:09 ◼   ► of not showing weakness is the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:10 ◼   ► he sees it and so that sort of urns in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:13 ◼   ► this code both the Bloodless about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:16 ◼   ► that's you know then becomes a larger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:19 ◼   ► part of this legend like all you know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:20 ◼   ► new here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:21 ◼   ► that he doesn't he doesn't bleed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:23 ◼   ► that's kinda one of the fun parts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:25 ◼   ► this is that in this framing story he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:27 ◼   ► an innkeeper having sort of resigned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:29 ◼   ► from this life of heroism and yet all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:32 ◼   ► the people come into the in know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:34 ◼   ► legendary figure they don't know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36 ◼   ► that the innkeeper is the legendary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:38 ◼   ► figure but they'll be telling stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:40 ◼   ► about him and you'll see the as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:41 ◼   ► story progresses as the story that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:43 ◼   ► hear from clothes progresses you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:45 ◼   ► start to recognize like the stories that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:48 ◼   ► the the people in the indoor telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:50 ◼   ► about clothes this legendary figure you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:53 ◼   ► start to see the seeds of that in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:54 ◼   ► story that that were sort of getting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56 ◼   ► real story but they're totally blown out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:58 ◼   ► of proportion which is I think one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1618">TS</a>]

00:26:59 ◼   ► the things I liked about it like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:01 ◼   ► if there's definitely a strong element [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:03 ◼   ► of like what storytelling is and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:06 ◼   ► making you know what exactly a legend is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:09 ◼   ► right and i think that was my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11 ◼   ► favorite part of the book and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13 ◼   ► what I think made it so unique because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:15 ◼   ► you know the story is pretty much a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:17 ◼   ► fantasy story the magic system is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:20 ◼   ► different than a lot of other stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:21 ◼   ► I mean the overall arc in the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:23 ◼   ► kind of there's nothing too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:25 ◼   ► extraordinary about them or i should say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:28 ◼   ► nothing to stand out about them but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:30 ◼   ► think that the whole like like Dan said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:32 ◼   ► the whole you know telling a story about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:33 ◼   ► storytelling is is interesting i started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:37 ◼   ► off two minds on the framing saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:39 ◼   ► because on the one hand i almost think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:41 ◼   ► especially in the first book that if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:43 ◼   ► series that started straight where I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:45 ◼   ► third pressure on mission narrator no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:48 ◼   ► framing story start with the kid who's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50 ◼   ► gypsy and just gone through the story in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:53 ◼   ► the linear fashion like that and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:55 ◼   ► ended i guess in the same spot for after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:57 ◼   ► finding out nothing new about these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1677">TS</a>]

00:27:59 ◼   ► people and saving in town from a dragon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:01 ◼   ► you know you'd be like it would would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:03 ◼   ► read more like like the first harry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05 ◼   ► potter book cord where it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:07 ◼   ► discovering the world and what you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:10 ◼   ► do in it and a little bit of adventure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:13 ◼   ► and stuff like that but nothing that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:14 ◼   ► apple's book because I thought there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:17 ◼   ► so little of the framing story it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:18 ◼   ► just it was like almost like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:20 ◼   ► distraction I could come back to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:21 ◼   ► have that argument between a vast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:23 ◼   ► the chronicler and like I felt like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:25 ◼   ► was just wasting time but on the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:26 ◼   ► hand since the frame story is there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:28 ◼   ► we know he ends up its asset innkeeper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:30 ◼   ► dude i hope that in the later books they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:33 ◼   ► don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:34 ◼   ► and maybe in a second most men don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:35 ◼   ► pull punches and it's not just that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:37 ◼   ► retired from heroism but that he ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:40 ◼   ► up doing some really bad things because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:43 ◼   ► that will add a lot of interest to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:44 ◼   ► character I think I don't want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46 ◼   ► like that he did heroic stuffin even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:48 ◼   ► know didn't turn out the way he wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:49 ◼   ► he always had the best intentions I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:51 ◼   ► to see him you know either become mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:53 ◼   ► with power or make some really bad moves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:56 ◼   ► or do something out of jealousy or just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:57 ◼   ► basically mess things opportunity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:59 ◼   ► already you know imply that has caused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:01 ◼   ► this big war that sort of in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:02 ◼   ► background or whatever I want to see him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:03 ◼   ► do bad things I'm sort of downfall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:06 ◼   ► you know I don't want to see him try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:08 ◼   ► be the earth throughout the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:09 ◼   ► just like he tries to be in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:11 ◼   ► book and just like Oh through bed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:12 ◼   ► coincidences and mean people doing mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:14 ◼   ► things to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:16 ◼   ► things didn't turn out that well I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:18 ◼   ► to see some serious you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:21 ◼   ► emotional wrenching problems happen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:24 ◼   ► him and the frame started kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:26 ◼   ► promises that so I have my fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:27 ◼   ► crossed CC when I think that's what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:29 ◼   ► the framing story really kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:31 ◼   ► separates and elevates this book from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:34 ◼   ► the heart which I I despise harry potter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:36 ◼   ► so I never read them always in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:39 ◼   ► movies but i haven't read them for I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:41 ◼   ► the I was the only one on the harry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:42 ◼   ► potter podcast here is that whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:45 ◼   ► and I i don't i don't care for it so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:47 ◼   ► have only read the first one everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:49 ◼   ► says oh they get so much better and if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:50 ◼   ► don't like the first one I'm not reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:52 ◼   ► 6 more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:52 ◼   ► I'm sorry but anyway so i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:54 ◼   ► that framing story really kind of it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:57 ◼   ► be a trick like a writer trick but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1797">TS</a>]

00:29:59 ◼   ► don't think it's going to get really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:00 ◼   ► elevates the whole thing and because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:03 ◼   ► know how the story is going to end it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:05 ◼   ► really makes the story which is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:08 ◼   ► running the middle story much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:10 ◼   ► interesting for sure like what how does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:11 ◼   ► he get from from this little kid who you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:14 ◼   ► know is great and everything to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:16 ◼   ► innkeeper who is kind of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:17 ◼   ► seemingly washed up or is he hiding out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:20 ◼   ► or what's going on with it and you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:22 ◼   ► find out he's so cautious about laying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:24 ◼   ► out details I worry about Dark Tower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:27 ◼   ► disease the first Dark Tower had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:29 ◼   ► little bit of that to where it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:30 ◼   ► interesting word you want a world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:32 ◼   ► you want to know more about it but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:33 ◼   ► tell you almost nothing so it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:36 ◼   ► removed it's a big big tease and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:39 ◼   ► leaves you wanting more but then then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:40 ◼   ► you've got to pay off eventually you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:42 ◼   ► know in the seven books you have to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:44 ◼   ► something about this world and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:45 ◼   ► the harder part so in the first one it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:46 ◼   ► is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:47 ◼   ► have a little bit easier to say we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49 ◼   ► gonna have this framing story and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:50 ◼   ► know something happens to my hands up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:51 ◼   ► here but we're not even going to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:53 ◼   ► you what we're not even gonna tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:54 ◼   ► whether he's like he's like you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:56 ◼   ► know if he's hiding because people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:57 ◼   ► trying to do something bad to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:59 ◼   ► something good did he just give up we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:01 ◼   ► don't know what happened to him only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:02 ◼   ► thing we know is that he lives through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:04 ◼   ► well we get the impression from the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:07 ◼   ► of the first the end of the frame store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:10 ◼   ► from the first book that he can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:12 ◼   ► magic anymore but yeah that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:15 ◼   ► the body because he's depressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:17 ◼   ► I hope it's because you can ever imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:19 ◼   ► he was lying the whole time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:20 ◼   ► unreliable narrator well hey I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:23 ◼   ► that's that might be you know that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25 ◼   ► that would be arguably very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27 ◼   ► disappointing in some ways but also very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:28 ◼   ► interesting another way because we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:30 ◼   ► get this whole thing through his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:31 ◼   ► perspective like there's and clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:33 ◼   ► he's a good storyteller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:34 ◼   ► so you know what if he is he claims he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:37 ◼   ► is not you know embellishing it but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:39 ◼   ► if he was you know like that would be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:40 ◼   ► interesting understand this in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:43 ◼   ► world i mean if in the University magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:45 ◼   ► is kind of commonplace but once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:46 ◼   ► leave even like I looks it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:48 ◼   ► you walk like three steps from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:50 ◼   ► University and everyone has never heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:52 ◼   ► of magic so if you can accuse you of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:54 ◼   ► consorting with demons 10 letters and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56 ◼   ► liked how they mix it with technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:58 ◼   ► because like it's it is magic and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:00 ◼   ► there's this other thing which is their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:02 ◼   ► equivalent of technology and and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:05 ◼   ► haven't heard of it because they're you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:06 ◼   ► know the same way farmers have been her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:07 ◼   ► transistor radios when it first appeared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09 ◼   ► but like the second book now this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:11 ◼   ► spoiler but someone's gotta love a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:12 ◼   ► refrigerator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:13 ◼   ► basically it's made from these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:15 ◼   ► little magic more or less strips of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:19 ◼   ► metal but it's just a refrigerator and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:21 ◼   ► it's it's just as magical to him as as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:24 ◼   ► real fridge would be and that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:26 ◼   ► that's that's the one side of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:28 ◼   ► technology that's it's boring like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:30 ◼   ► people like all you got one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:31 ◼   ► magic refrigerated likes not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:33 ◼   ► it's not that interesting vs naming the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35 ◼   ► wind John where you were you were you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37 ◼   ► disappointed when it turned out he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:39 ◼   ► also you know like an excellent fridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:41 ◼   ► repair man at a certain point you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:43 ◼   ► assume it's going to be good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:44 ◼   ► everything he is going to the University [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:46 ◼   ► but it may seem so easy just right stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:49 ◼   ► on little pieces yeah but that's totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:51 ◼   ► different than the that that's there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:54 ◼   ► that has like you know you get three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:55 ◼   ► steps outside no one's even heard that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:56 ◼   ► is like sympathy lights wow it's magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:58 ◼   ► but the real magic is still as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:01 ◼   ► far along as I am in the second book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03 ◼   ► still very mysterious and very powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:04 ◼   ► and very scary even within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:06 ◼   ► university it's not like Harry Potter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:07 ◼   ► weather like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:08 ◼   ► now kids raised you want we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10 ◼   ► learn now even within the university [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12 ◼   ► it's kind of hard corn and that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:13 ◼   ► everyone respect the crazy professor guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:15 ◼   ► because he's the one guy who's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:17 ◼   ► professor of that real magic stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:19 ◼   ► the other guys it more like a scientist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:21 ◼   ► my professors in actual University who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23 ◼   ► do one respects just just like an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:27 ◼   ► university exactly where that I can hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:29 ◼   ► someone's got at once killings got that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:31 ◼   ► shop for people are building things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33 ◼   ► woodshop class is dangerous chemicals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35 ◼   ► it's basically science without having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:37 ◼   ► worry about it being science that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:39 ◼   ► it's much more you know work a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41 ◼   ► metric is this very interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43 ◼   ► the magic of engineering yeah and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:45 ◼   ► think that's my favorite part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:46 ◼   ► whole thing is that split between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:48 ◼   ► technology magic and magic magic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:51 ◼   ► especially since the stories they tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:53 ◼   ► of like long ago and the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:55 ◼   ► demons and the deals they make and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:57 ◼   ► magic magic like even within this world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2037">TS</a>]

00:34:00 ◼   ► with this kind of magic technology is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:02 ◼   ► creeping up they still have these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:02 ◼   ► amazing tales of when there was real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:04 ◼   ► magic let me tell you kids and it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:06 ◼   ► this stuff for we write little ruins on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:09 ◼   ► pieces of metal make it hot no let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:10 ◼   ► tell you it was real magic and the few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:13 ◼   ► hints of that I get with him calling the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:15 ◼   ► wind and the let that legend that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:17 ◼   ► thing I think ties the first book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:18 ◼   ► together because lord knows the plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20 ◼   ► doesn't tied together in fact that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:22 ◼   ► the fact that it's called the name of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:23 ◼   ► the wind and the real magic is is sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:26 ◼   ► of going to be at the heart of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:28 ◼   ► journey to power and that he you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:30 ◼   ► here is about in the beginning and does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:32 ◼   ► it at the end that ties it together and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:34 ◼   ► makes it sort of a book for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:36 ◼   ► well then and there are a lot of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:38 ◼   ► that are hinted at and you know I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:39 ◼   ► of I don't know I i find myself a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:43 ◼   ► surprise I know Scotty much as before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:44 ◼   ► that it's you know sort of envision that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:47 ◼   ► say peers as a three-book series but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:50 ◼   ► seems like and again I'm only halfway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:52 ◼   ► through the second book seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:53 ◼   ► there's a lot more material in here that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:55 ◼   ► then that's gonna fit in three books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:57 ◼   ► right yeah i mean i finished the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2097">TS</a>]

00:34:59 ◼   ► second book and I don't I if the third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:01 ◼   ► book is going to be maybe forty eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:03 ◼   ► hundred pages long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:04 ◼   ► maybe I don't know because there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:05 ◼   ► of other words facing right that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:07 ◼   ► the first one I said I kept reading and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:09 ◼   ► reading gone dude you're not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:10 ◼   ► finish let me tell you like he's using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:12 ◼   ► you're not going to finish it at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:13 ◼   ► University what's gonna happen is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15 ◼   ► can discover anything about these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:16 ◼   ► his whole mission of the first ones i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:17 ◼   ► gotta find out about these people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:18 ◼   ► kill my parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:19 ◼   ► you don't have enough pages left dude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:21 ◼   ► you're not gonna find anything out so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:22 ◼   ► guess you chase after dragon for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:24 ◼   ► addressing dragon and then we'll end the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:26 ◼   ► book The End call the wind en su but I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:31 ◼   ► have i have trouble following like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:33 ◼   ► chronology so i read a blog post about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:35 ◼   ► this where someone said that in the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:37 ◼   ► innkeep like in his innkeeper in the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:39 ◼   ► bookend thing they think he's like 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:42 ◼   ► years old and I imagine too much older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:44 ◼   ► than that I don't need and I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:45 ◼   ► was like 60 yeah I think he's now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:48 ◼   ► think I mean that they're kind of big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:49 ◼   ► about it you know that but people come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:52 ◼   ► into the inner kind of vague about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:53 ◼   ► little one of them doesn't you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:55 ◼   ► lose some points to him being can't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:58 ◼   ► that old you know basically I mean of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2158">TS</a>]

00:35:59 ◼   ► course the story we're getting from him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:00 ◼   ► is he's like 16 and so you know by that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:04 ◼   ► point I guess you know 30 might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:05 ◼   ► really old and fantasy world where four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:07 ◼   ► people seem to die pretty on your way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:09 ◼   ► get noticed that he walked like an old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:11 ◼   ► man but looks like a young man like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:12 ◼   ► moves like one of the comments one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:14 ◼   ► the people who have the first or second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:15 ◼   ► book was that you move like an old man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:17 ◼   ► but you look like a young man and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:18 ◼   ► you don't have life expectancy was 40 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:20 ◼   ► maybe he is getting on in years I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:22 ◼   ► don't think the time gap is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:24 ◼   ► important but it's kind of like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:25 ◼   ► bothers me about Star Wars a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:27 ◼   ► too and that within a single generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:28 ◼   ► people like Jedi who is that and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:31 ◼   ► know just previously 10 years ago there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:33 ◼   ► are swarming all over every planet solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:35 ◼   ► everybody's problems like I never heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:36 ◼   ► a Jedi don't believe in the force was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38 ◼   ► ever you know you believe in the force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40 ◼   ► of their Jedi all over the place just 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:42 ◼   ► years ago you know people don't forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:44 ◼   ► that soon so if this guy did all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:45 ◼   ► amazing exploits and cause all these big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:47 ◼   ► problems in like the past five or ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:49 ◼   ► years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:50 ◼   ► well yeah I mean you picture it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:52 ◼   ► you're picturing him as a legend in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:54 ◼   ► terms of like you know shrouded in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:56 ◼   ► mists of time or whatever there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:57 ◼   ► definitely seems like there needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:59 ◼   ► time for that to sink in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:01 ◼   ► unless you just a legend in this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:02 ◼   ► little town plus the university town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:03 ◼   ► legend in his own mind that that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:07 ◼   ► stuff stuff to work out especially since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09 ◼   ► this guy seems to suggest pages come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:11 ◼   ► of him but he doesn't make progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:12 ◼   ► maybe group does not planted that well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:15 ◼   ► and he's gonna I don't know if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:17 ◼   ► the time lines all worked out but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:19 ◼   ► would think after working on the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:20 ◼   ► book for seven years or something he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:22 ◼   ► should take the time to do a little time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:24 ◼   ► line chart and figure out okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:26 ◼   ► he's this old this point I gotta get do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:27 ◼   ► all these events happened to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:29 ◼   ► between here and now it doesn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:30 ◼   ► sense for the townspeople like not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:32 ◼   ► wreck another to have photography and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:33 ◼   ► stuff but he's a guy with the red hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:35 ◼   ► and I don't know that if it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:39 ◼   ► hiding by weight and second red hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:43 ◼   ► didn't like dryer and put on the glasses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:44 ◼   ► and it's like you know Superman where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:46 ◼   ► did you go this just this guy here with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48 ◼   ► glasses well and there's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:49 ◼   ► there's a there's a funny scene in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:52 ◼   ► second book where he tries to convince [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:53 ◼   ► one of the one of the NTSA i just got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:56 ◼   ► through that scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:57 ◼   ► yeah and I felt like it was not possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:59 ◼   ► that he couldn't convince them of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:00 ◼   ► but I mean I don't know I i agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:03 ◼   ► because I think there's something II and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:05 ◼   ► you know maybe that's still to be borne [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:06 ◼   ► out by by the rest of the story but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:08 ◼   ► think there is something like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:09 ◼   ► if somebody walks up to you and tells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:11 ◼   ► them tells you that they're like Merlin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:13 ◼   ► or whatever like it you know even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:14 ◼   ► they got a long white beard and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16 ◼   ► seem to look like you know wizard you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:18 ◼   ► probably going to be a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:20 ◼   ► skeptical i met Merlin just the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:23 ◼   ► day and let me tell you meet a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:25 ◼   ► interesting people until they did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:26 ◼   ► tell you it was magic everywhere but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:29 ◼   ► these people believe in magic though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:30 ◼   ► it's not the same as Maryland it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32 ◼   ► be like someone who looks just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:33 ◼   ► Robert Downey jr. but looked a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:35 ◼   ► bit scruffy here came up to you and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:37 ◼   ► no seriously i'm robert downey jr and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:39 ◼   ► you like get out of here and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:40 ◼   ► look at him close and you feel like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:42 ◼   ► I guess you want well and then I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:44 ◼   ► there is some question of the depth like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:46 ◼   ► the definition of the world of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:48 ◼   ► framing story right because there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:50 ◼   ► there is the there's that encounter at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:53 ◼   ► the end of the book where there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:54 ◼   ► guy is basically like a demon possesses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:57 ◼   ► some guy and patron you know comes into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2337">TS</a>]

00:39:00 ◼   ► the inn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:00 ◼   ► and they're all trying to stop him but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:02 ◼   ► none of them quite believe that it is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:04 ◼   ► fact a demon until after they gave you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:07 ◼   ► know tried to kill it in several ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:08 ◼   ► and have failed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:10 ◼   ► I mean I think it's in there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:12 ◼   ► suggestion that that that is uncommon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:14 ◼   ► but you're right that there's there's we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:17 ◼   ► don't necessarily have a clear picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:18 ◼   ► of how the world in that in that future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:20 ◼   ► or in presence i guess from the framing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:23 ◼   ► story like how commonplace all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25 ◼   ► things are and then they are kind of in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:27 ◼   ► a backwater town or even though they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:29 ◼   ► they talk about the legend stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:31 ◼   ► they're not sophisticated people the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:33 ◼   ► chronicler is more of a sophisticated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:34 ◼   ► person and is you know and it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36 ◼   ► friend of the two of them are more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:39 ◼   ► worldly and know about these things with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:41 ◼   ► the town spoke just seemed to not know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:43 ◼   ► about anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:43 ◼   ► another thing I liked about the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:45 ◼   ► technology angles that the demons you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:47 ◼   ► kill them with iron some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:49 ◼   ► allegory about technology and systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:51 ◼   ► and superstition or maybe just reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:52 ◼   ► too much into it well that's that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:54 ◼   ► that's a classic it's a classic sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:56 ◼   ► truck that goes back i think even to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:57 ◼   ► fairy tales cold iron is usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2397">TS</a>]

00:40:01 ◼   ► considered I think Shakespeare lose that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:03 ◼   ► like there's a there's a scene in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:05 ◼   ► midsummer night's dream or something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:06 ◼   ► think so nice piece of Lord though they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:08 ◼   ► had good scenes without like strapping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:09 ◼   ► him to the big iron wheel and putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:11 ◼   ► the pit and everything all that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:12 ◼   ► would be good on film I feel like yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:14 ◼   ► mean would you make a movie out of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:15 ◼   ► it seems like it would be it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:17 ◼   ► it wouldn't work right it wouldn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:19 ◼   ► with some seams in it work like that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:20 ◼   ► whole at the backstory scene would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:22 ◼   ► kind of like the backstory seen in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:24 ◼   ► fellowship of the ring without telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:26 ◼   ► the story about the the original battle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28 ◼   ► with everything was cut off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:29 ◼   ► star-spangled learn everything that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:30 ◼   ► little backstory segment that story they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32 ◼   ► tell about almost the legends and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:35 ◼   ► would fit in that style and the scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:36 ◼   ► with a demon being strapped to an iron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:38 ◼   ► wheel and speaking in tongues and trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:40 ◼   ► to convince you to lighten free that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:41 ◼   ► that's that's triple a cinema there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:43 ◼   ► then everything else around that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:45 ◼   ► like I don't make a movie out of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:46 ◼   ► weekend it's not your traditional is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:49 ◼   ► definitely not your to structured like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:50 ◼   ► your traditional playa the movie would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:52 ◼   ► end of people like what wait what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:54 ◼   ► happened and then the magic isn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:57 ◼   ► show you so I mean it's not like he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:59 ◼   ► yeah people don't want it like that work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:00 ◼   ► about and definitely works well in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:02 ◼   ► book all the explanations of the magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:03 ◼   ► and everything if you're kind of a geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:04 ◼   ► or a science geek or whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:06 ◼   ► it's like a different world system you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:08 ◼   ► but i like reading about that it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:09 ◼   ► little bit tiresome reading about it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:11 ◼   ► second time in the second book but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:13 ◼   ► that's a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:13 ◼   ► podcast we can discuss that how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:16 ◼   ► know that it wouldn't be so interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:18 ◼   ► to see him you know crafting a sympathy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:20 ◼   ► lab been explaining how it works i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:22 ◼   ► watch that sounds riveting I i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:25 ◼   ► watch it to it does sound interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:26 ◼   ► but for most people not ask myself my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:29 ◼   ► favorite parts of the book one is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:31 ◼   ► lab and explain the principles and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:33 ◼   ► demonstrating my love that stuff not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:37 ◼   ► interfere too much of the RF field but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:40 ◼   ► was curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:41 ◼   ► John uses only earlier about like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:43 ◼   ► know this wasn't this wasn't you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:45 ◼   ► best fantasy book of the past decade i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:46 ◼   ► curious if there's something in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:47 ◼   ► particular that stands out to you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49 ◼   ► was that you felt like pick up the slack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:51 ◼   ► and places where this was lacking yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53 ◼   ► i've barely read fantasy books now so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:56 ◼   ► i'll just surmising that there had to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58 ◼   ► a better book mostly what what we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:01 ◼   ► of it because yeah I that's why can't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:03 ◼   ► another book episodes because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:05 ◼   ► read that much and what I do read is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:07 ◼   ► like stuck in this Stephen King year's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:09 ◼   ► best science fiction ghetto have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:12 ◼   ► read have you read george RR martin song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:14 ◼   ► of ice and fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:15 ◼   ► you know I haven't haven't read any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:16 ◼   ► his books alright i'll probably come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:18 ◼   ► in a future podcast since the TV show is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:21 ◼   ► coming out next month i did I can give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:23 ◼   ► an example are really you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:24 ◼   ► fantasy books that are better than this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:26 ◼   ► that had been in my lifetime obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:28 ◼   ► looking at the lord of the rings out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:30 ◼   ► there is ridiculous but obviously you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:31 ◼   ► know that's that's my favorite fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:33 ◼   ► book of all time that's a whole other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:34 ◼   ► category but not a big such a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:37 ◼   ► Stephen can King fan his one fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:40 ◼   ► book I thought eyes of the dragon was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42 ◼   ► great example of why people buy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:45 ◼   ► numbers straightforward fantasy that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:49 ◼   ► lots of interesting things to recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:51 ◼   ► like it wasn't amazing and fantastic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53 ◼   ► transcendent but it was it was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:55 ◼   ► bit paint by the numbers but i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:58 ◼   ► like that I thought it was at and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:00 ◼   ► ears a nose was not typical Stephen King [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02 ◼   ► you can redo a kid or whatever I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04 ◼   ► look to that as my sort of benchmark for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:06 ◼   ► top-quality not not amazing but not bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:12 ◼   ► fantasy and I judge all the fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14 ◼   ► books by you know is it better or worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:15 ◼   ► than eyes of the dragon and in every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17 ◼   ► regarding this is worse than I the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:19 ◼   ► dragon almost every regard but better in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:21 ◼   ► those highlight aspects of like had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:24 ◼   ► better world more interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:26 ◼   ► ideas about the epic story and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:29 ◼   ► it's a much bigger and much bigger story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:31 ◼   ► that has yet to be told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:33 ◼   ► ok how he's got well i will admit that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:36 ◼   ► when i was in high school I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:39 ◼   ► burnt out on fantasy books i read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:41 ◼   ► whole bunch of pretty crappy fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:43 ◼   ► books like a lot of them and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:45 ◼   ► stopped reading fantasy because I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:46 ◼   ► sick of it it's always the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:48 ◼   ► you know there's some extraordinary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:49 ◼   ► person in need to find something and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:52 ◼   ► know sleigh and evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:54 ◼   ► so this book actually has been at these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:56 ◼   ► two books i think the best fantasy books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:58 ◼   ► i read in the last few years of course I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:02 ◼   ► haven't read much fantasy so I'm not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:04 ◼   ► good judge of the best science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:06 ◼   ► best fantasy the last year's fair enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:09 ◼   ► about yourself down are you a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:11 ◼   ► fantasy person I I kind of like you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:13 ◼   ► like I read a lot of it i mean i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:15 ◼   ► the thing that killed a lot of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:16 ◼   ► fantasy interest was a robert jordan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:17 ◼   ► personally personally responsible for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:20 ◼   ► killing much my fantasy interest which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:21 ◼   ► books that i think i read the first six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23 ◼   ► maybe seven books in that series and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:25 ◼   ► that i read up to the point like where i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:27 ◼   ► think i was in high school and I read up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:29 ◼   ► to the point where like he had written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:31 ◼   ► at that time and was like well yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:33 ◼   ► was pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:34 ◼   ► like you know although i'll read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:36 ◼   ► next book when it comes out and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:37 ◼   ► next book came out like years later and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39 ◼   ► i was like i don't remember a thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:41 ◼   ► happened in there and I become sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:43 ◼   ► disenchanted with it in the meanwhile I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:45 ◼   ► was like I'm never going to reread it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:46 ◼   ► to figure out what happened and then i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:48 ◼   ► would read some you know care criticism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:50 ◼   ► of it from other people like it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:51 ◼   ► that's another good example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:54 ◼   ► well you know the female characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:56 ◼   ► being locally sort of two-dimensional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:59 ◼   ► and they're just for the that the men's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:01 ◼   ► interest in them and I think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:03 ◼   ► that sort of run home at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:04 ◼   ► after i was at more of a distance and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:07 ◼   ► and that sort of held me off for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:09 ◼   ► i've come across a couple fancy books in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:11 ◼   ► the past years that I really liked one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:12 ◼   ► of them was this one at least before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:14 ◼   ► start talking job got it John has ruined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:17 ◼   ► it for everyone but the other ones being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:20 ◼   ► I have enjoyed George RR Martin's song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:22 ◼   ► of ice and fire to lift up until the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:24 ◼   ► point where is and there's a I guess the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:26 ◼   ► next book is due out in the summer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:28 ◼   ► I've read to actually read the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:30 ◼   ► three books in that series twice because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:31 ◼   ► i read them again when the fourth book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:33 ◼   ► came out and they're very good i hope he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:35 ◼   ► doesn't fall into the robert jordan trap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:37 ◼   ► of sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:38 ◼   ► spinning this story out forever and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:40 ◼   ► he has a good ending point because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:42 ◼   ► there's some really good stuff in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:43 ◼   ► it's a very brutal you know series of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:46 ◼   ► books it's got a lot of stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:47 ◼   ► focuses on things more like political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:49 ◼   ► intrigue there's not a lot of magic or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:51 ◼   ► other worldliness and so it makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:53 ◼   ► that much more interesting when that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:54 ◼   ► comes up that's true i had forgotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:56 ◼   ► about Jordan I will second that and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2756">TS</a>]

00:46:00 ◼   ► the other book which i came across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:01 ◼   ► roughly the same time i came across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:03 ◼   ► name of the wind is a book called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:04 ◼   ► lies of locke lamora which has some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:08 ◼   ► things that are very similar to the name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:11 ◼   ► of the wind especially in that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:13 ◼   ► the sort of the main character is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:14 ◼   ► very clever fellow he's a thief though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:17 ◼   ► and this is this book is is it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:20 ◼   ► different in some ways it's a lot darker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:22 ◼   ► the end of that book is very dark like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:26 ◼   ► John John start talking about like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:27 ◼   ► wanted to see like the actual meaningful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:29 ◼   ► loss and stuff like that i started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:31 ◼   ► thinking about that book because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:32 ◼   ► really is a lot of that book that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:33 ◼   ► feel sort of like wow that did not go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:36 ◼   ► well for that guy and that had a sequel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:40 ◼   ► called a red seas under red skies and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:42 ◼   ► think there's another book do this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:44 ◼   ► or or sometime soon and so that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:46 ◼   ► the other series that i read started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:48 ◼   ► reading few years ago and thinking wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:49 ◼   ► this is this is really good i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:51 ◼   ► like this you know you know it also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:53 ◼   ► throughout their I was thinking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:55 ◼   ► picking up ere it and I mentioned doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:57 ◼   ► before I don't get called fantasy or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:59 ◼   ► sci-fi is kind of in the middle but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:00 ◼   ► thought my favorite book in the dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:02 ◼   ► tower series reads like a fantasy book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:04 ◼   ► wizard and glasses my favorite one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:06 ◼   ► that reads like a more-or-less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:07 ◼   ► self-contained fantasy but can I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:09 ◼   ► that was head and shoulders above its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:11 ◼   ► really that's a really coherent like out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:14 ◼   ► as opposed to a lot of the other books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:15 ◼   ► in that series which are kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:17 ◼   ► this weird pastiche mix-match of genres [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:19 ◼   ► Wizarding glasses really really coherent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:21 ◼   ► and like sort of focused on this story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:25 ◼   ► and again it's sort of a it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:26 ◼   ► flashback right because its role in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:28 ◼   ► telling the story of yeah very little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:30 ◼   ► framing story and that one but mostly in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:32 ◼   ► the world bulb and then it's been retold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:34 ◼   ► that they sort of told three different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:36 ◼   ► lens in the Sudan doing a graphic novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:38 ◼   ► version of that and it's sort of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:42 ◼   ► telling some of the same story or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:43 ◼   ► the story of sort of young Roland which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:45 ◼   ► is again interesting i think that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:46 ◼   ► agree that the world that world i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:49 ◼   ► enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:50 ◼   ► and wizards and glasses a pretty pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:52 ◼   ► good book and you have to call that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:53 ◼   ► fantasy right especially that old world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:55 ◼   ► stuff is a kind of headlines and nights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:56 ◼   ► an email they have done and seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:58 ◼   ► westerns right right well it's kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:00 ◼   ► mix-match of those two bowls of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:01 ◼   ► college more of the Western [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:03 ◼   ► self-contained book will that and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:05 ◼   ► definitely a Western yeah well western / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:07 ◼   ► syfy vs right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:09 ◼   ► western / fantasy and I can study and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:12 ◼   ► that's one of the things I love about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:13 ◼   ► the dark tower is that it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:14 ◼   ► embrace all those things but I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:15 ◼   ► again something probably for another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:17 ◼   ► podcast yeah but i would but i would put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:19 ◼   ► that up there is like it was trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:20 ◼   ► think of fantasy books i read i always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:22 ◼   ► try to read those years best fantasy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:24 ◼   ► know just like I read the year's best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:25 ◼   ► sci-fi stuff and for some reason have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:27 ◼   ► much easier time reading the year's best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:29 ◼   ► sci-fi short stories and the fancy ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:31 ◼   ► I just I just peter out and don't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:33 ◼   ► it through the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:35 ◼   ► yeah I don't know what the I i'm trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:38 ◼   ► to think of other fantasy books I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:39 ◼   ► read in the last few years i think some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:40 ◼   ► of them a lot of the other ones that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:42 ◼   ► really like are things that have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:43 ◼   ► around for awhile that are i mean for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:46 ◼   ► example i love love Terry Pratchett who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:48 ◼   ► writes in a fantasy world but it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:49 ◼   ► means community right it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:51 ◼   ► different thing that's like saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:52 ◼   ► exactly like science fiction so I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:54 ◼   ► the hitchhiker's guide that so that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:55 ◼   ► has a general to himself and so does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:57 ◼   ► terry pratchett I love him too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:58 ◼   ► yeah so i'm trying to think if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:00 ◼   ► anything else that was really like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:01 ◼   ► would jump out at me from the past 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:03 ◼   ► years and yeah I there are some that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:06 ◼   ► the they're very like I everyone smile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:08 ◼   ► see things come across but they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:09 ◼   ► always sound like very traditional sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:11 ◼   ► of fantasy books of the type that I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:13 ◼   ► know didn't really like that much so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:15 ◼   ► that I had one of the things I liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:18 ◼   ► about the name of the wind i think in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:19 ◼   ► sort of coming back around to that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:21 ◼   ► that like Scott said that it didn't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:24 ◼   ► too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:25 ◼   ► while it has a lot of the tropes of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:27 ◼   ► fantasy novel it has enough different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:29 ◼   ► going for it that I i found it kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:33 ◼   ► departure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:34 ◼   ► it's kind of a fresh take on it's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:36 ◼   ► because it's not the same thing over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:39 ◼   ► over again like when I was a kid argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:41 ◼   ► your case i read a lot of david eddings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:44 ◼   ► so I was obsessed with David a text i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:46 ◼   ► read he had a 10 book series and I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:49 ◼   ► the whole thing and then he came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:50 ◼   ► with a new series and i read that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:51 ◼   ► five books they came up with another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:53 ◼   ► series and slowly dawned on me that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:56 ◼   ► was telling the exact same story with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:58 ◼   ► slightly different characters over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:00 ◼   ► varying numbers of books and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:02 ◼   ► stopped read that but this this was kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:04 ◼   ► of a similar story but had a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:05 ◼   ► different viewpoint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:07 ◼   ► ya know I i agree with that I i never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:11 ◼   ► read a lot of those ones that were big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:13 ◼   ► when I was a when I was in high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:15 ◼   ► like terry brooks and Terry good kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:17 ◼   ► and all that I never never got into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:19 ◼   ► those who I return good can then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:20 ◼   ► started getting very he sido un osito [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:25 ◼   ► masochistic it was weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:28 ◼   ► there are women who had pain sticks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:31 ◼   ► they wore red leather outfits so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:33 ◼   ► when blood splashed on them wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:34 ◼   ► show up it got to be a bit much working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:38 ◼   ► out some personal issues sure exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:42 ◼   ► yeah i think that everything else that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:45 ◼   ► I'd you know a lot of the other stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:46 ◼   ► that i enjoyed as much older stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:50 ◼   ► you know I think there's always there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:51 ◼   ► a very porous you know border with a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:54 ◼   ► of the science fiction and fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:56 ◼   ► things that I'll but I've wiped from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:57 ◼   ► that era out but yeah there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3057">TS</a>]

00:51:01 ◼   ► but it's it's an interesting uh it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:04 ◼   ► interesting dilemma when you have these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:06 ◼   ► sort of well-established genre with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:08 ◼   ► these well-trod story type so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:11 ◼   ► always nice to see somebody break free a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:12 ◼   ► little bit and well John I hope that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:15 ◼   ► hope the second book treats you better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:16 ◼   ► than that than the first one is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:18 ◼   ► released maybe you can you you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:20 ◼   ► it through to the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:21 ◼   ► vibrations you are not going to like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:23 ◼   ► nah I don't call me crazy but I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:26 ◼   ► thinking that you know it probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:27 ◼   ► doesn't go anywhere either with I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:29 ◼   ► know at this point I'll just because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:31 ◼   ► read a lot of books that are not great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:33 ◼   ► like I read almost everything Stephen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:34 ◼   ► King does and almost everything he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36 ◼   ► is not great but there are certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:38 ◼   ► writing styles and authors that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:41 ◼   ► somehow the pages keep turning and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:42 ◼   ► go through you know I'm in the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:44 ◼   ► like there's the problem of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:46 ◼   ► e-readers maybe Scott has this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:47 ◼   ► too i don't have a lot of e-readers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:49 ◼   ► compared to him but i do have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:50 ◼   ► devices where I can read and I'm in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:53 ◼   ► middle like nine books it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:56 ◼   ► too many when i was doing paper book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:57 ◼   ► that was always one of the time but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:59 ◼   ► it's like what I'm in the mood to read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:01 ◼   ► lot of them are nonfiction and those i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:03 ◼   ► feel like i could stop and start at any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:04 ◼   ► time but even the fiction books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:07 ◼   ► I'm just in the middle so many of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:08 ◼   ► and like maybe do i remember i am in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10 ◼   ► this book yep i'll read a few chapters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:11 ◼   ► of this and this is why I never make any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:13 ◼   ► progress in my books moment when these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:15 ◼   ► books come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:15 ◼   ► these name of the wind things I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:17 ◼   ► pretty much for that straight through to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19 ◼   ► the end and i'll probably do the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:20 ◼   ► thing with the sequel because even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:22 ◼   ► anything happens there are amusing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:23 ◼   ► scenes and you want to see what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:25 ◼   ► and it's not you know the same reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:27 ◼   ► you watch bad sitcom TV like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:29 ◼   ► entertainment for a few minutes but when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:31 ◼   ► it's over I do feel a little dirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:33 ◼   ► yeah and I think Jack slur every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:38 ◼   ► yeah but the Lord yeah I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:39 ◼   ► we're helping like it's hard to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:40 ◼   ► people on this podcast to read a fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:42 ◼   ► book right so it's just the three of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44 ◼   ► one guy was never on a book episode and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:46 ◼   ► the and the two guys who read everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:47 ◼   ► this podcast is not going to help us get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:50 ◼   ► people on the beach you know the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:51 ◼   ► fantasy football guess but for God's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:53 ◼   ► sake people read the dark tower so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:54 ◼   ► can talk about it it's only 8,000 pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:57 ◼   ► are you waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:59 ◼   ► would you here's the question for both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:01 ◼   ► you and then would you recommend this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:03 ◼   ► book if someone you're with your friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:05 ◼   ► computer says hey I want to read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:07 ◼   ► fantasy book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:07 ◼   ► what would you recommend you read of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:09 ◼   ► recent vintage i'd recommend i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:13 ◼   ► recommended this book a to a few people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:15 ◼   ► and and most of them will have I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17 ◼   ► enjoyed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:18 ◼   ► although I have some friends who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:20 ◼   ► very wary of that whole like george RR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:22 ◼   ► martin robert jordan disease of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:24 ◼   ► going two years and years before the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:26 ◼   ► know the final book in the series comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:28 ◼   ► out now but this is definitely one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:31 ◼   ► i've recommended to several people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:32 ◼   ► that they seem to mostly enjoyed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:35 ◼   ► lies of locke lamora as i mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:36 ◼   ► before is another one that I often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:38 ◼   ► recommend and then probably you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:41 ◼   ► george RR martin you know in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:43 ◼   ► recent stuff but there's definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:44 ◼   ► older stuff i like it i'm a big fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:46 ◼   ► dark hour tom has as John i know is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:51 ◼   ► i'm trying to think after that again if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:52 ◼   ► there's anything else that would really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:53 ◼   ► come up there like like terry pratchett [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:57 ◼   ► put you know he's kind of in a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:58 ◼   ► class i wouldn't recommend this book to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:01 ◼   ► someone who want to get a fantasy just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:02 ◼   ► because I don't think it's I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:05 ◼   ► it's representative of the genre i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:07 ◼   ► try to look for more prototypical book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:08 ◼   ► you know even if it was one that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:11 ◼   ► hadn't registered was more typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:13 ◼   ► because this is kind of weird off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:14 ◼   ► beaten path and flabby and just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:17 ◼   ► if you're not into the fantasy genre you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:19 ◼   ► want something that's gonna like hook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:20 ◼   ► them and get them into I like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:22 ◼   ► example i would definitely recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:22 ◼   ► eyes the dragon we just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:24 ◼   ► my first fantasy book really simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:27 ◼   ► Wizards little bit of magic but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:29 ◼   ► basically just like a simple story with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:31 ◼   ► a beginning middle and end that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:33 ◼   ► self-contained it's not a book is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:35 ◼   ► book 120 book series or anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:37 ◼   ► that that's the type of book I recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:39 ◼   ► if I knew more fantasy books i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:41 ◼   ► probably have a much better example that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:42 ◼   ► I that's that I have mentioned this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:44 ◼   ► other people most of the time saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:46 ◼   ► that I that I thought it had some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:47 ◼   ► interesting elements but had many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49 ◼   ► bad things are and so far it hasn't made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:52 ◼   ► any of the people i've mentioned it due [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:53 ◼   ► to go out and buy it and read it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:55 ◼   ► wonder why but I mean you never know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:58 ◼   ► like i said i said the same thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:00 ◼   ► a friend of mine I told him about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:02 ◼   ► dark tower series and talk about not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:06 ◼   ► wanting to get committed to something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:08 ◼   ► that's just going to be this gigantic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:09 ◼   ► loose conglomeration of stuff that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:12 ◼   ► have spans 30 years that's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:15 ◼   ► commitment but yeah there is enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:18 ◼   ► recommend that he actually go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:20 ◼   ► and read the whole thing i feel kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:21 ◼   ► bad about that put its you never know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:24 ◼   ► like I i want to i want to give an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:25 ◼   ► accurate picture of a book that I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:26 ◼   ► to see what people are getting into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:27 ◼   ► someone was like I'm i might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:29 ◼   ► interested in fantasy i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:31 ◼   ► don't know if i would recommend this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:32 ◼   ► book but if I given what i think is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:34 ◼   ► accurate description of what they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:35 ◼   ► decide on their own if there was this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:37 ◼   ► what they want to sign up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:39 ◼   ► well that's a that's a fair point out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:42 ◼   ► you you imagine you saying if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:44 ◼   ► to read a crappy book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:45 ◼   ► not if you say so you're saying you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:48 ◼   ► like us if you read a lot of fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:50 ◼   ► books and you feel kind of burned out on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:51 ◼   ► it and you want to like read something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:53 ◼   ► to like maybe try to read fantasy again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:55 ◼   ► that will keep your interest like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:57 ◼   ► that's what it did for me because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3357">TS</a>]

00:55:58 ◼   ► hadn't read fantasy and years and years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3358">TS</a>]

00:55:59 ◼   ► and every time i tried i didn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:00 ◼   ► anywhere in this book maybe read through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:02 ◼   ► it and i'll take the flip side of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:04 ◼   ► and say that you know there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:05 ◼   ► people there are certainly a stigma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:06 ◼   ► attached to a fantasy in some settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:08 ◼   ► like you know I have friends who like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:10 ◼   ► now I can comment about magic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:12 ◼   ► wizards and Dragons and I think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:13 ◼   ► nothing here that's not sort of doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:16 ◼   ► fall into those typical tropes and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:18 ◼   ► writing is very accessible and fun like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:21 ◼   ► it is like John says it's paige Turner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:22 ◼   ► if nothing else and i think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:24 ◼   ► that's something that often recommends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:26 ◼   ► itself to people who are like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:27 ◼   ► maybe mom might be a little like shy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:29 ◼   ► away from your traditional fantasy books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:31 ◼   ► because of the stigma attached to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:33 ◼   ► yeah we should all go out and recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:35 ◼   ► 22 all our friends and relatives and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:37 ◼   ► if anyone actually see you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:38 ◼   ► reads it and what they think we'll find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:41 ◼   ► a control group and let's be scientific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43 ◼   ► about this want to pick something off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:45 ◼   ► the street see if they liked it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:46 ◼   ► we can determine been from that whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:47 ◼   ► or not it was a good book i think all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:50 ◼   ► all things told any book that I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:53 ◼   ► entertaining and then i read and makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:55 ◼   ► you want to read the second book even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:56 ◼   ► though it's four years in between is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:59 ◼   ► successful book and i would recommend it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:00 ◼   ► so I say good job Patrick Rufus or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:05 ◼   ► whatever the heck you had job on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:07 ◼   ► pronunciation first of all why didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:08 ◼   ► you pick your last name better exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:11 ◼   ► the first problem you you couldn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:13 ◼   ► your character names and you picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:14 ◼   ► names that we can find a lightweight i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:16 ◼   ► guess we should be blessed there are no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:17 ◼   ► posture peace in the name that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:19 ◼   ► and i actually thought he did a good job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:21 ◼   ► if I never had to pronounce the names i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:23 ◼   ► talk names in a book about naming I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:25 ◼   ► thought the names were very good yes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:27 ◼   ► I'm pretty weird every once in a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:29 ◼   ► there's a scene in a second book where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:30 ◼   ► he's telling a story or something in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:32 ◼   ► your and one like talking to some kid or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:34 ◼   ► something they refer to as Jimmy and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:36 ◼   ► was like every once in a while that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:38 ◼   ► throws in a name that you're just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:39 ◼   ► that so yeah that was that was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:43 ◼   ► funny but yeah I would agree with Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:45 ◼   ► an overall think that this is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:46 ◼   ► def book that I read twice actually and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:49 ◼   ► enjoy because i read my so now the truth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:51 ◼   ► comes height i read the second time this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:54 ◼   ► year before because i wanted to read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:55 ◼   ► because I have a very bad memory for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:56 ◼   ► these books like Scott I ready to cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:58 ◼   ► several years ago and so I reread it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:00 ◼   ► before the second book came out because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:01 ◼   ► I sort of wanted to pick up the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:03 ◼   ► book like a continuation of the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:04 ◼   ► book and I cannot imagine doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:06 ◼   ► it's pretty good the second time i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:09 ◼   ► enjoyed i remembered i remembered some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:10 ◼   ► of it but not all of it when he posted a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:13 ◼   ► recap in cartoon form on his blog so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:17 ◼   ► read that and that was very helpful to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:18 ◼   ► get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:19 ◼   ► previously on the neighborhood wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21 ◼   ► exactly there's very few books that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:23 ◼   ► reread they've gotten better or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:25 ◼   ► stayed the same on second reading most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:26 ◼   ► the time and second reading they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:27 ◼   ► worse because the second reading I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:29 ◼   ► what's going to happen so my brain has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:31 ◼   ► more leftover cycles to to analyze the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:34 ◼   ► the you know the mechanics of the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:36 ◼   ► and the writing and end up let not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:38 ◼   ► liking it as much as I going one book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:39 ◼   ► that I read multiple times that does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:41 ◼   ► get worse on multiple readings and sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:43 ◼   ► of the ranks which I've read many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:45 ◼   ► times and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:45 ◼   ► you get better on multiple rings but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:47 ◼   ► doesn't it works either tasting I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:49 ◼   ► gonna have a podcast and there's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:51 ◼   ► be a podcast for John and I talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:52 ◼   ► Lord of the Rings and I tell him how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:53 ◼   ► much I really don't like lord of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:55 ◼   ► rings that I i can and i understand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:57 ◼   ► reasons why people don't like it I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:59 ◼   ► just saying for me it doesn't get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:01 ◼   ► doesn't get it doesn't get worse and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:03 ◼   ► feel like to say the same words might I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:05 ◼   ► don't hate it but I i read the books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:07 ◼   ► themselves or not the stories are ok the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:09 ◼   ► book sorry it's not it's not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:11 ◼   ► for it's not for everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:13 ◼   ► the writing and everything at the store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:15 ◼   ► I don't make the cut i guess but now it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:18 ◼   ► just it's just what you're interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:20 ◼   ► like if you for example you ever read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:21 ◼   ► Michael Palin so nonfiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:23 ◼   ► no well if you like he just travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:27 ◼   ► writing and I feel like you like travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:29 ◼   ► writing you probably like lord of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:30 ◼   ► rings because a lot of it reads like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:32 ◼   ► fiction time here see sort of scenic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:37 ◼   ► Mordor seriously this huge swathes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:39 ◼   ► that but they're just people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:40 ◼   ► walking across the landscape and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:42 ◼   ► described in the landscape and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:43 ◼   ► ridiculous detail and if recommending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:46 ◼   ► restaurants which always thought was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:47 ◼   ► weird but have you at the White Tower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:49 ◼   ► and minus fear is it's great i mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:51 ◼   ► the ribs if you haven't read if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:54 ◼   ► Michael Palin but you should at least I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:56 ◼   ► think our netflix you should leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:57 ◼   ► swatch some of the video because he goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:59 ◼   ► around the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59 ◼   ► around the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00 ◼   ► travels and and films it and the books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02 ◼   ► are a little bit thicker than the travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:04 ◼   ► videos but they the show's themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3604">TS</a>]

01:00:06 ◼   ► are actually very entertaining great for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:07 ◼   ► long plane flight for something so are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:10 ◼   ► those are there's our fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:11 ◼   ► recommendation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:12 ◼   ► yeah Michael Palin full circle or any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:14 ◼   ► those other is very serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:16 ◼   ► alright well the robotic buzzing of John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:19 ◼   ► Syracuse's voice tells me that it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:21 ◼   ► that we've hit our our our long mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:22 ◼   ► here so I'm going I'm going to wrap up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:25 ◼   ► and thank my guests Scott McNulty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:28 ◼   ► the pleasure was all mine and john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:31 ◼   ► surtees this microphone better net ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:33 ◼   ► later just in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:35 ◼   ► just a little and thank you all for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:37 ◼   ► listening I'm being more and we'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:39 ◼   ► we'll see you next time on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:41 ◼   ► we'll be watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:45 ◼   ► [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:49 ◼   ► I remember reading Lord of the Rings on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:52 ◼   ► a 160 x 160 pixel screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3652">TS</a>]

01:01:04 ◼   ► I'm full of corned beef [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3664">TS</a>]