00:00:00 ◼ ► the in tom purple Todd test number 20 a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/0">TS</a>]
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00:00:20 ◼ ► hope I'm not offending anybody by saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/20">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► that I there was a time in my life when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/22">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► I was a teenager in the eighties where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/25">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► i guess i would be offended if somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/26">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► said my interests were geeky although if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/28">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► I was standing there wearing a doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/31">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► who t-shirt then I would be have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/32">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► defense i would be a supposed to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/35">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► your son exclude driver and teach them a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/38">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► yes I didn't have a scrubbing sonic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/40">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► screwdriver i did have actually even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/42">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► worse it was a glow-in-the-dark Doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/45">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► Who t-shirt with the five doctors ormond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/47">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► this is presumably so you can see how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/50">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► many girls were not impressed by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/52">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► t-shirt at you why was I was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/53">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► mention barrels at least in the context [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/55">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► of I did wear to high school a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/57">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► times and I know I never dated anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/59">TS</a>]
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00:01:12 ◼ ► from from the lovely silver city of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/72">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► hello also joining me today is John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/78">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► you know I think this is kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/82">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► eventually everybody has to be on a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/86">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► every permutation must be explored so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/90">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► excellent excellent and our very own Ted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/93">TS</a>]
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00:01:38 ◼ ► hello who have nothing in response to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/98">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► that I get you shouldn't you should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/102">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► offended you should shout this podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/105">TS</a>]
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00:01:49 ◼ ► thank you that's right always keep the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/109">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► red button I'm ready to be pushed so our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/110">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► topic today is a different one for us a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/113">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► Lisa send a message to our our little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/116">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► incomparable mailing list talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/119">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► geek culture as a concept in general and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/121">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► culture is a secret culture or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/127">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► was it accidentally secret was it secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/129">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► because nobody really cared to join me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/131">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► so we were all alone in it and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/133">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► the one of the articles that came up was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/136">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► a piece that ran and wired a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/140">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► Oswalt very funny fellow who those of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/145">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► you who are not familiar with his comedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/147">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► may know as the voice of the the remedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/149">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► you may also know him as the although i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/154">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► don't know many kings of king of queens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/157">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► incomparable but if you are a a king of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/160">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► queens viewer he was on that sitcom as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/163">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► very funny fellow and as it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/167">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► remarkably nerdy which I I wasn't aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/169">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► of that he wrote a piece and wired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/172">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► called wake up geek culture time to die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/175">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► which itself is a blade runner reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/177">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► by the way and in it he talks about nerd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/180">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► culture and how back in the day and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/184">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► eighties he felt that he was part of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/186">TS</a>]
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00:03:12 ◼ ► Monty Python references and and Princess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/192">TS</a>]
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00:03:20 ◼ ► Dungeons and Dragons and and refer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/200">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► specific Star Trek episodes and was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/202">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► reading not just the watchman but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/204">TS</a>]
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00:03:28 ◼ ► preceded the watch men and how in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/208">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► day of Internet a knowledge and in many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/212">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► ways a celebration of the culture that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/217">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► this has been lost now some of what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/218">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► writes it's sort of silly but some of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/220">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► i think is also very serious and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/223">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► will link to it in the show notes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/226">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► you might want to stop and read it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/227">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► then come back if you have that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/229">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► multitasking podcast person but so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/230">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► with that said I i wanted to start by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/235">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► getting reactions to to what Patton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/237">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► Oswalt road and also maybe a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/241">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► about sort of your looking back on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/243">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► Lisa I you you're the one who brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/249">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► this to our attention you know where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/251">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► I i have to admit i'm a big patton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/255">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► oswalt family I have all of his albums i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/257">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► read this essay right after I finished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/259">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► reading his books Dombey spaceship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/262">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► apocalypse and the premise of which can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/263">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► apocalypse premise there because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/268">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► seems pretty self-explanatory 10 there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/271">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► are actually three separate concepts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/273">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► oh yeah you know as Walter Isaacson that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/275">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► most fantasy and sci-fi folk can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/277">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► divided into one of three tribes those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/280">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► who connect with zombie stories those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/282">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► who connect with spaceship stories and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/284">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► post-apocalyptic landscape stories and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/287">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► his premise is that how you connect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/290">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► actually says a lot about you as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/292">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► person for example people who connect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/293">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► with spaceships stories tend not to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/295">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► very interested in solving problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/297">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► where they are because they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/299">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► screw this i'll just find another space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/300">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► system and in real life they tend to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/301">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► pretty self-contained they tend to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/304">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► prepared for everything because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/305">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► have that on a spaceship mentality and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/306">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► he alleges that most comedians connect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/309">TS</a>]
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00:05:17 ◼ ► disintegration chaos of society and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/317">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► already begun working on a sort of nerd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/321">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► taxonomy and then this article came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/324">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► and I I see him sort of codifying his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/327">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► argument even more and I think the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/330">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► that rubs me the wrong way is it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/333">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► nostalgia soaked piece in the sense oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/337">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► was in to watch my back before it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/339">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► byword for a spectacularly bad movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/341">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► it's it's kind of doing the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/344">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► that the social groups who really did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/350">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► ostracized ostracized nerds and geeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/352">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► did to us back in the eighties which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/354">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► it's creating a hierarchy putting people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/355">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► in it and assigning value judgments to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/357">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► it and its complaint as well you people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/359">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► who are geeks today aren't geeky enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/361">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► because you don't have to work that hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/362">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► yes exactly um I can remember going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/367">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► virginia tech in 1990 and meeting up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/370">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► with a group with a mutual friends group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/372">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► of friends who were huge into this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/374">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► this icon circuit and they had all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/377">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► these in jokes that you would know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/379">TS</a>]
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00:06:25 ◼ ► the eighties and somehow in order to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/385">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► part of this group I was going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/387">TS</a>]
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00:06:37 ◼ ► was like the first last time I hung out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/397">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► with these folks but well I mean come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/399">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► uh it's just that the the notion that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/402">TS</a>]
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00:06:51 ◼ ► something i can see keeps coming up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/411">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► it is it's just an idea that rubs me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/413">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► well it's not a jock is not a joke move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/415">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► i'm right i mean i mean is not have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/417">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► try a 13 exclude an exclusive excluding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/419">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► people because they're not cool enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/422">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► and I don't pass for your membership [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/423">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► test is is I mean it sounds like a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/425">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► actually and you can also get a band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/429">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► geek / drama club move because you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/431">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► to have some monochrome of talent or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/433">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► some cult of personality aspected that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/434">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► lets you run around with the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/436">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► are always putting on coffin our place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/438">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► and I thought it's it's very typical of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/439">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► people of a geeky orderly persuasion to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/444">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► want to assign hierarchies because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/447">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► you take a look at the passions that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/449">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► drive people like Dungeons and Dragons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/451">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► or comic book collecting or Star Wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/452">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► there there's part of the appeals is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/456">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► this Universal internal consistent rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/458">TS</a>]
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00:07:42 ◼ ► understandable impulse I just think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/462">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► reprehensible when it comes to human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/463">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► remarkably unselfconscious when you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/468">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► come on the part of being a geek or nerd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/472">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► was you had a degree of ostracize ation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/474">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► which led you to observe other social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/478">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► groups and see how they function so why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/481">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► aren't you turning that on to your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/483">TS</a>]
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00:08:08 ◼ ► seems to be saying is that the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/488">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► that that people got into these kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/489">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► key topics because they were not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/492">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► discussed and widely known and and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/495">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► read that and thought that I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/498">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► that's the case at all i think that I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/499">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► think it was the reverse I think that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/501">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► was interested in things that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/503">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► narrower than than what other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/505">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► were interested in not because they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/507">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► narrow but be just because I I i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/509">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► them so my question is you know it do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/511">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► like reading about you know hearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/513">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► stories about about people on spaceships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/516">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► are on other planets because we're where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/518">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► you know we want to be separate from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/520">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► crowd or just because we like that extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/522">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► something like sci-fi or fantasy can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/527">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► give us that some stuff that's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/530">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► I don't think patent was saying that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/533">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► are there narrow his the beginning part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/538">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► of that sa was all tangled up into these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/542">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► conclusions that I totally disagree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/546">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► a minute veered off into this comedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/548">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► thing so it's hard to it's hard to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/550">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► because he'd go from one party to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/554">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► next you just throw something out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/556">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► completely unsupported just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/557">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► saying it as if it's a fact then move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/559">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► to his next point and almost all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/561">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► points early works better spoken in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/563">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► stand-up routine i would think yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/565">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► because then you can laugh and he but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/566">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► you know if you think about any of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/568">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► out sticking and that you can sink into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/570">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► the rhythm and make center and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/571">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► saying like you know is it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/573">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► they're narrow you're trying to examine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/575">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► his earlier argument as if they're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/577">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► logically constructed and try to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/578">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► of some sort of underlying he might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/580">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► and I think there's a decent argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/583">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► here which is you know d is nerd culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/584">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► exciting because it gives the Nerds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/587">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► something that only they know that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/590">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► all the other people don't know or is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/592">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► just the way it is because that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/594">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► stuff that being nerdy being geeky means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/596">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► you were interested in in in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/598">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► things you know just because you are it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/601">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► has nothing to do with excluding other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/603">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► people i think it's a little bit i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/604">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► it's a little more a little more dire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/607">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► than that and that i think the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/609">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► who are geeks in high school are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/611">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► people who are who don't have the tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/614">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► or are not successful at the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/616">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► social game that sort of defines high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/621">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► school right and for whatever reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/623">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► they're just you know they're shy there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/625">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► they're awkward they're they're insecure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/628">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► they have some sort of problem that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/630">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► keeps them out of the larger social game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/631">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► that's that the the norm right and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/633">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► think once you're out of that game you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/637">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► accelerator to be interested in you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/642">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► have more time for other things now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/643">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► say that because i think that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/645">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► spaceships robots you know fantasy novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/649">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► stuff like that that stuff is if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/653">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► pretty much evenly distributed across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/657">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► all kids of that age I believe but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/658">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► only manifests in the people who are who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/661">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► don't do well in the social structure of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/664">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► of that that time period of their lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/667">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► and they you know dive right into ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/669">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► just and and that ties back into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/672">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► panel's thing always talks about the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/673">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► dude in the gym who's got the above that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/675">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► thing on his sleeve is lifting weights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/677">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► and he was the jock who is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/679">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► beating up on high school but now he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/680">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► thinks he can co-opt both that an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/682">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► I think he liked both it just as much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/685">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► you did he just wasn't is dedicated and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/686">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► obsessed right in in high school and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/689">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► that's what I think it is i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/692">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► it has to do with were more interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/694">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► in these topics and other people you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/696">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► know obviously this visit i could hit a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/697">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► dedicated ourselves more to it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/701">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► we didn't have other things to dedicate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/703">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► relationships or anything like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/706">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► they're so so this is the thing that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/708">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► could master whereas somebody else might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/709">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► just think it was cool I i do i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/712">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► like what you said there because i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/714">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► that there's truth in that that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/717">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► appreciated by lots of people I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/720">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► anybody's actually made this accusation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/725">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► but i felt a little of it coming from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/726">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► Oswalt that that the reason people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/727">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► decided to retreat from reality and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/734">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► that's the only reason you'd like them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/736">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► is because you're an outcast which just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/738">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► like no wrong or you like them because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/739">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► they're because they're narrowly I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/741">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► if anything geeks to meet these geeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/743">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► wanted to be part of the group why would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/745">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► they seek out something that took them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/747">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► away from the group you know they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/748">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► to this just means that's just not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/749">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► impulse you know there they were looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/751">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► for any other kid who played the india [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/752">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► with them in honey you know I I i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/754">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► i was just completely clueless when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► think back to high school but when I put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/759">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► on that glow in the dark doctor who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/760">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► shirt I was just like I thought it was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/762">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► didn't think it was cool it's just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► liked it and so I wore it and i think if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/766">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► i had been more aware of how to build up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/768">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► I would have known that that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/774">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► really bad idea and I figured that out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/775">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► much later denied all knowledge of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/777">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► it's likely that you're bad you're not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/781">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► second you were not able to successfully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/783">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► navigate the social structure of high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/784">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► school for whatever reason you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/786">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► just didn't have until they clicked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/788">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► cluelessness more than anything else I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/791">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► didn't was like well I can master Doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/792">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► Who because nobody else will have me it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/795">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► was more like I just I was like oh this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/796">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► is cool not aware that it was so not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/798">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► so it and if you have found other doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/801">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► who fans you ever like yes you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/803">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► you about Doctor Who I love it I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/805">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► you'll love it too and that you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/806">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► wouldn't like heart jealously as if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/808">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► here we want like no you can't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/809">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► about doc Oh God let me tell you John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/811">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► there was another doctor who fan in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/815">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► no no he was the geekiest person at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/821">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► high school he oh my god he was your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/823">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► stereotypical a geeky guy nerdy guy he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/827">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► hehe was super super like science guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/832">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► and he will actually wore he wore the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/836">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► Tom Baker scarf around all the time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/838">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► and even I knew that was a faux pas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/843">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► socially so i couldn't i I couldn't bear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/845">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► to have any sort of alliance with him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/847">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► even though he was kind of a kid's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/849">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► kindred spirit and we occasionally he'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/851">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► be like oh you like Doctor Who to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/853">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► uh yeah I got a thing I gotta go because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/854">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► he was so far out there so I I feel bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/858">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► about it now but he was just like no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/861">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► that way lies madness so but it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/862">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► because you felt like now that another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/866">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► person interested in it lessens the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/868">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► attraction of Doctor Who to me it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/869">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► affect your attractive doctor who at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/871">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► no sadly did there was actually kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/873">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► a dividing line between geek experiences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/875">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► we're in high school I i agree with John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/879">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► that some of some of the the the geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/883">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► set as it were if you have to put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/887">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► parentheses around certainly comes from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/888">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► not being able to navigate high school's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/890">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► rules and structures which I want to add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/891">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► is not necessarily a bad thing but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/895">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► college I noticed a lot of geeks were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/899">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► very very rigorous about reinforcing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/901">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► what they thought the parameters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/903">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► boundaries of geek culture were and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/904">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► were very quick to throw you out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/906">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► or call you as a fraud if you couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/907">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► princess bride with the group that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/916">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► were if you can answer Monty Python [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/917">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► quote with a corresponding quote or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/919">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► you couldn't keep track of whether that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/922">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► Jean Grey was alive or dead on a given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/923">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► day up which is hard you for Furyk for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/925">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► example in high school the guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/928">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► English class was also the school pot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/932">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► dealer so he kind of move back and forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/935">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► different interests so he could you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/937">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► could get your own you can hook you up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/939">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► with health quest or with pop well if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/940">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► something there is a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/944">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► chemical you gonna say I'm gonna say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/945">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► it's hard to say which one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/948">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► HealthQuest gasps colors and that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/952">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► comic that makes a lot more sense like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/954">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► the hair dissolving sudden start to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/956">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► together whereas again in college and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/957">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► again this at people who were in Society [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/962">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► for Creative Anachronism would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/964">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► never ever been caught dead hanging with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/965">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► the people who are doing homegrown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/968">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► pharmaceuticals and again you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/969">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► Conn crowd which would darkly Lou 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/971">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► that thing Harlan Ellison did back in 86 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/974">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► and all cackle and then look at you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/976">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► terrible when you could not have given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/979">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► two graphs with Harlan also have done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/981">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► back in 1986 and senses Harlan Ellison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/983">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► the list is long so it's it's the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/985">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► it as well refers to so talking words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/990">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► out since our little world and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/993">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► that can roll around the minutiae and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/994">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► you really master a subject in Johnson's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/996">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► well yeah that's because you really have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/998">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► nothing else going on and I thought well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► hostility where you're like oh you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► well i'm just going to just to show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► i'm going to master elvish and write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► long saugus about how much you suck in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► elevation it is a hospital with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► references to or is it I mean I since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► I've got this defensive pneus I've gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► you know I've got to I've got two little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► kids you know you get kids kids kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► want to master something and and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► some of it is that you know if if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► world is kind of not understandable you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► know as a kid you might you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► memorize 13 work around it is yeah all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► the kind of training or all the cuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► Star Wars cards or you know you can pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► it's like as a kid you don't just one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► moment is so popular is because exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► yeah my pokemon so popular is because as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► a child you can figure out okay this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► that classification system right this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► part of the world i can understand these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► are the rules this all makes sense that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► yeah yeah yeah I think that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► drives sort of that kind of kiki drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► to to do that is sort of like to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► understanding and control over it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► my main problem with this whole idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► geek culture is that it is somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► separate from normal culture right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► are obsessed with a variety of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► well that's what also wants that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► he says you know but people are geeking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► out over that Real Housewives of Beverly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► baseball not exact and I think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1078">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► I think that so a lot of geek culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► depends on technology and the written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► word which is a form of Technology right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► and so the only reason and I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► thinking of this right now since make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► absolutely no sense but i think the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► reason that Sports is not considered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► geeky is because people have been doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► it for so much longer so it's just part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► of the culture and it's okay to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► sports because we've been doing it since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► humans have been you know cognizant of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► being humans because you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► running from a tiger something that then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► becomes a an event that's playing sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► not being a sports fan no I saw an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► interview with the woman who who got in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► the news because she wanted to wear her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► star trek uniform too when she was on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► I saw it and and what she made a point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► that i have not been able to refute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► which is why is it weird for me where my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► star trek uniform but it's not weird for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► a guy to wear a baseball team or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► football team uniform to a baseball game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► and it's like well you know I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1136">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► it's true that's why i'm so confused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► like let's take baseball for example not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► to you know ostracize any particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► numbers of this podcast but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► baseball is probably the creepiest sport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► oh yeah the world it is right because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► yeah it's absolutely it's incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► boring it's in there are people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► it's like a man or get exactly and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► all the fans fans are obsessed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► statistics that you can't get geekier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► yeah well that's that's that's why i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► tell it not to take a little tiny peek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► into Lisa's private life but Lisa is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► member of a comic book club and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► she goes cheap she will haunt local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► comic book stores and her husband [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► couldn't know the Floyd he does now know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► more about comic books because his wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► has has taught him well but not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► and so you can have that moment of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► offense it's like why there aren't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► many women who appreciate comics and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► this guy he's not worth but you know her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► Lisa's husband loves baseball and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► one of the things that he does have kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► of geeky street just runs two different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► things and you could argue that baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► his appreciation for baseball is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► appreciation for comic books although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► i'm sure he would beat me up and now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► told him that actually now I think we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► actually come to the agreement that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► they're pretty parallel and I've also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► known people who have managed to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► for lack of a better word parallel geeky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► passions for example my brother who also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► has a comics podcast strangely enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► classical musician he's very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► passionate about dr. so my brother isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► it is a vagner opera teak as well as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► being a massive geek about the flash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► series of DC comment on how hard it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► would be to get into that into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► little little circle the bogner circle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► you say one wrong thing to the Brahms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► installing your gods are horrible and no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► classical music people are are just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► that that's a whole that's a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► different game I mean yeah I i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► humbled world amateur now consider if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► oh we are so so what raw what led me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► because they think they talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► things that happened in the eighteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► subculture one of the things that Patton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► Oswalt talks about that i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► is an interesting point which is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► different environments and you know East [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► Coast and West Coast and big cities and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► small towns and but one thing that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► Internet has done is eliminated the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► sense that you are the only or one of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► interested in anything right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► what used to be it's just me or it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► just two or three people you go on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► internet now and you realize it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► just you it's you and like a thousand or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► ten thousand other people which you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► I I do feel like Oswalt's right when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► says you know will never again have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► feeling of kind of like near isolation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► that I discovered this thing because now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► you can go out there and get the faq [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► that tells you everything you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1318">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► know about that thing and a mailing list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► isolation is a bad thing though I agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► the isolation is bad i mean that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► what spawned those groups that are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► hostile to outsiders because if you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► through that experience where where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► where you're ostracized in high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► you have and you get a chip on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► shoulder that when you finally meet up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► with more like people in college you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► be more inclined to make an exclusive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► group that is hostile to outsiders and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► so on and so forth I think the Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► is breeding a that's why did you hear ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► series of geeks I think the geeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► they're growing up today i have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► benefit of not having that horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► experience because they don't have they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► could never even imagine that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► alone and that by the time they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► older they won't have that you know sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► of chip on their shoulders they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► seek out revenge or exclude people the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► way they were excluded and that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► think you see geek culture spreading so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► much because people who are growing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► in the age of the Internet don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► these problems and it becomes more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► normal everybody plays video games of if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► we have I should put in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► for this the penny arcade strip was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► way back 2001 where they did a strip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► about adds to the original playstation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► basically look like you know a hip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► happening good looking teenagers the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► people that who actual video gamers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► hated and that's Tony was advertising to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► me the games were going mainstream and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► they have a problem that's what like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► wait a second these guys weren't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► know playing nes in the basement with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► they were out playing football why do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► they get to be part of games well that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► sort of democratization of geek culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► I think we'll it is as a result of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► becoming clear that this is not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► and just think it's kind of like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► you have all these little islands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► people who are you know if their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► geeks in their own high schools they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► could imagine that they were the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► ones but once you start connecting those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► people they sort of like a look around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► and see each other and rise up you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► it's like a rebel forces kept separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► once they're joined together you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► they cannot go here and do something as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► a group bicker amongst each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► yeah well you know that that's part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► it but that's I mean people arguing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► whatever you know in your high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1438">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► the entire time you're there sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► teams constant struggle that but no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► is arguing over you know a DD vs AD&D [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► except for you and your two friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► right yeah well not my high school but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► went to an incredibly key high school so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► yeah they really thought I was gonna say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► that the beginning really does depend on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► where you've grown up because I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► talked to a lot of people and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► experience varies wildly some people go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► to like you know schools for gifted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► children where everybody's playing D&D [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► and you know it's it's not a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► and something that other people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► who's ever heard of dnd and I i was i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► was saying as I was listening to our our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► role playing podcast that that I I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► the guy who had all the books and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► and could never get a game together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► because there weren't enough people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► are not enough people in your entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► school see it honestly never occurred to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► me the DVD was nerdy and the reason is i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► know that i wanted you or did you grow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► up xavier school for the gifted no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► actually no it's the it's the US Navy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► because my dad brought dnd into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► house and my dad used to go out on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► nuclear subs because he was he worked as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► a songwriter engineer and so he would go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► out nuclear subs and dulce trials for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► weeks at a time and dnd was actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► huge among Navy submarine crews and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► contractor for the defense contractor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► workforce and they brought home to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► families and when I grew up and so when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► I was in Middle School my dad help me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► roll a couple characters and he'd have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► me play with the guys in the Navy and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► would play my character for me on lunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► breaks and I never thought of it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► nerdy I just thought it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► something that people just did and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► was it wasn't until you can i switched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► high schools that i realized that no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► this is actually considered kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► oh and this is why all new nuclear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► submarines are equipped with magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► thank ya good this is why there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► paladin of every crew but when you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► about it it's I don't know if tsr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► actually went after the submarine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► audience or if it was like a happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► mark no I don't think that was part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► their marketing plan submarine I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1556">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► I i watch two things that they did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► should because honestly because honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► it should have been you've got a group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► of people who are underwater for three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► to six months out of the year active [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► audience all men they got a big market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► they'll really you know they'll already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► love it they are already loving her well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► family with ranking capriciousness as so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► you know why not give them the cake pops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► and work on that I mean because it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► boring down there and these guys like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► being able to have the the games that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► both instructions provided the room for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► improvisation it's like it was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► perfect marriage of a entertainment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► audience i do think that the that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► the democratization of geek culture is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► good thing I mean you look at something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► that began as as a very niche thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► you know what is comic-con now I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► first time she okay yeah well for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► first time last year and it's it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► know a little bit on the geeky side and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► you still got your your areas that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► comics focus but you know they're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► are people cast members from TV shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► that have no even remote connection to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► get culture who were there and and but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► think it's a good thing that the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► that the entertainment weekly does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► stories about things that are happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► in comics you know the fact is star wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► changed I think the way our culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► views science fiction we can argue about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► the the pros and cons of Star Wars Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► Wars isn't like serious science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► that you read a novel but the fact is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► now every summer blockbuster basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► is sci-fi or or a superhero or fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► or something like that and and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► changed the way that the general culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► of use those kind of stories it's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► everybody's rushing out and buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► serious sci-fi novels but it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► changed you know it's changed the way we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► view that kind of genre because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► then it is the genre 44 film if not for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► TV and books it is for film i wonder how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► much that has to do with what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► still grappling with the fact that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► American frontier is closed in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1677">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► because when you think about it if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► look at the trajectory of of popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► attitudes over the 20th century at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► very beginning of the 20th century one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► of the American identity crisis was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► fact that there were no more territories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► to homestead and and the frontier was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► closed we hit the Pacific you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► Alaska most was already more Alaska was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► basically the end of the line as it were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► and there was a wave of popular culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► nineteen-thirties where people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► trying to figure out what it meant is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► the country once you literally ran out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► and in a way outer space especially from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► the fifties on outer space provided a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► frontier exploration and conquest and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► cast a wider and I wonder how much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► that we're still feeling because we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► such a small and interconnected world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► right now thanks to the internet and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► does feel like it's a it does feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► a tiny planet in many ways I mean we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► all look at protests going on in Libya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► in ways that would have been just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1737">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► 5-minute sniff it on the news even 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► years ago and so because the world feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► small and it feels very easy to master [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► maybe we're all looking again we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► casting RI outward because we also have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► that urge for exploration frontiers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► the idea that you can hop on a spaceship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► and find something else is tremendously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► appealing I'd be as some adventure and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► technology to help with that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► before you had Cowboys right because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► was technology and then you had jungle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► adventures exploring africa right but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► soon as we got more technology that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► went right from the cowboy becomes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► jungle adventure becomes the astronaut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► it's just the view the vehicle they ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► on the tools they used to do their job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► but it's also one exploring so i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► know if it turned as geeky as it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► the thing the geeks were into like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► you're if you're a kid you know decades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► ago you would be into Roy Rogers because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► Cowboys were the best guys or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► you'd be into you know that the British [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► explorers exploring you know the lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► continent in the jungles of africa but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► that as soon as someone gets on a rocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1797">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► thats it thats you know did all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► kids just switch immediately from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► jungle Explorer from the cowboy to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► and then ended but now it changes honors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► now it's sci-fi right now it's not your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► cowboys warrants I fibers they were real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► cowboys and jungle explorers were even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► though the jungle explorers you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► we're always finding dinosaurs or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► you didn't call it science fiction then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► but it was just detected you sprinkle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► technology on and people think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► changes into a different thing but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► exactly the same story is you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► kids fantasizing about nights in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► Middle Ages and it's the same thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► they're all of the stories that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► mentioned have this element of I've left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► the structures of society and I am free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► to write my own narrative and to blaze a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► path that other people will have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► follow and it's just like you said the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► technology's changed there's a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► telling moment up when you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► I'm going to explore the jungle and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► going to discover new species and boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► won't people be impressed when I bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► it back and if that's not a form of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► geekery which has the element of boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► won't be people be impressed by my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► mastery because there is some of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► seven-year-olds want to make sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► the planet goes back to geeks who want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► to set up a hierarchy of you-know-who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► who is the the quite solid rock of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► know the local high school and all goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► back to you boy you'll all be sorry I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► happy I'll show you you know this world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► has nothing for me i will dream of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► they called me mad at the academy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► saviors Academy plus uplands who I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► grow up in West Chester's you did grow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► up in Westchester well I did you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► run into kitty pryde how she doing she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► haha oh haha got me actually gone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► that school from what i heard of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► childhood where everyone's playing D&D [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► and they're all you know just geeking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► out 24 hours Dave that's right it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► was paradise my Mutant want to know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► his power was it was it wasn't one of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► one of things when I think back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► stuff i was interested in high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► and that sort of experience I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► think the thing that amazes me now is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► that these things are celebrated in ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► that i didn't realize that I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► I think that's true it has to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► feeling at the time like maybe there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► were some people who are interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► the stuff but basically it was just me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► and there was it was sort of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► feeling of isolation like God why does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► nobody else care about this stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► and you look at it now and like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► know what there's that the weezer song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► in the garage which is basically like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► taking off all the boxes of everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► seventies or eighties would be into you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► know and and you know they bring back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► doctor who and break I I they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► regular people who are like oh I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► the new doctor who was like the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► Doctor Who well let me tell you but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► don't know it's a new doctor who they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► don't know they don't they just think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► it's doctor who is make sure it's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► I tried to explain to my mother that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► was on the sixties I blew her mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► yeah William Hartnell yes it came on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► right after the Kennedy assassination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1978">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► said no this is the new show i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► oh yeah so but now so that that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► thing that kind of amazing and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► heartened by that I i I'm I'm i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► it's great that these are things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► because the bottom line for me was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► i'll appreciate those kinds of stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► and those kind of worlds and actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► sort of felt sad that more people didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► interesting and cool and why would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► like them and one of the nice things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► about being in a connected world like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► are is that you can see that other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► people not only do you find other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► who like them but I think it also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► wouldn't you know be into it my wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► wasn't into sci-fi or anything like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► but but she loves some of the sci-fi TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► and Doctor Who and things like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► it's like you know ya see it is good it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► is really I wasn't wrong i was a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► actually kind of a reverse effect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► because you say like why weren't those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► people into scifi like i said before i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► don't think it's because that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► didn't like spaceships and didn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► lightsaber stores or how about I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► it's because the that subject matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► became linked with the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► bad at high school and you didn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► to associate with those people and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► you for you even though you watch Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► you're not going to wear the Star Wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► shirt to school or admit that you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► like Star Wars you may like it even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► than that geeky guy just because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► know that would push you down and social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► standing and and that's why all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► people didn't like it did you say bad at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► yes I've actually been surprised by how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► many of my girlfriend's her sister who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► I've been surprised at how many of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► are completely fluent Star Trek The Next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► Generation like I know a lot of women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► who know that show inside and out who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► are like the were the last people you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► think of his geeky and yet they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► Starfleet captains and rank them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► order of preference and it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► delightful you know without that was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► of my that was one of those those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► moments where I realized that that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► geekiness was not was not a lonely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► pursuit anymore was that in college we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► remember I remember going to basically a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► party for the Deep Space nine Premier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► where they were like 21 when hero land [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► and it was like more than half women and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► you-know-what Picard appears his cameo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► or whatever and that was when I realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► wow this is not you know me in my room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► by myself watching Star Trek this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► life everything happens uniform in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► well he never had a captain's uniform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► sadly but my parents did by me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► enterprise from the Franklin Mint who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► which i still have when I was a grad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► school I shared a house with six other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► people and two of them were going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► through the MBA program and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► also heading up the rowing team on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► MBA program so you're talking about two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► incredibly athletic very specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► stereotypical beast be school students [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► and there was a math PhD who is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► not really living in this world because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► he was living in his beautiful numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► planet and an architect and engineer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► a recent Russian me great and I and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► would get together every Sunday night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► and watch Star Trek The Next Generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► to get it was like this big family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► dinner type thing we cook for each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2158">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► and sit down and bear in mind we barely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► had two things to say to each other the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► rest of the week but every Sunday night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► come hell or high water all of us were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► sitting in that living room with our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► plates balance in our laps talking all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► the way through the show and watching it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► was just this really social experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► exaggerated was a was a real it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► perfect show for that and it was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► had a broadening effect of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► because people star trek permeated the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► culture a lot with the that the reruns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► have been out there for all that time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► and kids have grown up with them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► then there were the movies and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► the way the show was done you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► was it wasn't really heavily serialize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► it was really pretty accessible the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► characters where you could get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► characters and it was a good show and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► think you put all those things together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► and end and a lot of people even now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► mentioned Star Trek The Next Generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► and people are like oh yeah they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► take off episodes and it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► amazing how broad that show ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► being a bronze reach was oh yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► that isn't isn't the difference between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► so and i don't know if this turn up i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► think it's an artificial difference but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► he patent as well as making a difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► between pop culture and geek culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► right i think the only difference is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► that of how deep you go into something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► right so you can be you can enjoy Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► Trek and that maybe a geeky thing unto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► itself but I don't think liking star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► really like I have behind me 6,000 star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► trek the collectible card game cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► that is kinky so if i said to you well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► you know not only do i liked the episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► where the card is trapped on the alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► planet with the other captain but then i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► say well it's Darmok it's like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► that's another level and I say well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► know the alien captain was played by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► paul winfield who also played the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► captain of the reliant and start to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► wrath of khan i said and i already knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► that so we heard around the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► example and written by German oski who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► ended up being a producer and star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► voyager which was not a very good show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► by the way but other limits because what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► you're talking about these different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► levels of involvement but if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► Twilight we're talking about where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► there's somebody who's gone through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► harry potter right and one of the one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2277">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► the recurring members of our little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► podcast crew here wrote Harry Potter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► fanfiction I mean that's not her prop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► Potter is a passive mainstream success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► twilight is a massive success but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► there's a major amount of geekery the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► gloves on but the thing is up and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► hearing groping toward a unified theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► one of the things about decrease i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► cut always comes back to it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► the subject that tend to attract geeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► tend to have incredibly consistent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► internal rules in order and if you take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► a look at harry potter you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► about a woman who filled up notebooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► and spend about 10 years thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► this university ahead while she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► riding it and has spread spreadsheets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► for God's sake where she brought out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► chronology of people's genealogies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► what happened after the books and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► like that so she had this universe with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► incredibly consistent internal histories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► and rules and I think for for geeks be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► understand the universe was created by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► somebody else is is part of the appeal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► so what I'm wondering is if you can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► well this person is really to twilight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► but they're never ever gonna be geeky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► about twilight because it doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► the same baseline get criteria of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2337">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► complicated internal system that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► still be grasped by outsiders or it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► entry-level code phrases or or knowledge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► that that people exchange to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► I basically want to have some things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► just never going to be key no matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► your level of engagement is 22 yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► this is the same twilight is a shallow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► how's that just think this statement is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► there any world building and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► writing like you know a trashy teenage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► yeah there's only you can only dig so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► deep that you hit the bottom of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► things right and so that if this depth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► then you can get into it so don't bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► ski career away maybe I mean just think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► of it we're talking about like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► if you are the star trek casual start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► water or the star trek geek sports is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► the best example because everybody some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► kind of sports fan like it just vaguely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► Oh pick a team from your hometown I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► Red Sox fan or whatever but that goes so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► deep in terms of like can you name the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► RAS of the of the last 27 starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► pictures of your favorite team people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► can rattle that like that rabbit hole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► goes way down farther than you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► anything like that because sports has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► been around forever in there so much to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► know I don't know about to further the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► dumb and Tolkien actually well you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► that said that hold still pretty forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► to think about how many years have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► been playing baseball in this country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► and how many stats there are in every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► screaming like a management moves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► trades and just like there's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► there's just too many numbers on it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► much it's not just the numbers to John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► it with baseball you've got the there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► like the society for american baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► research and there's this group called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► retro see retro sheet and they actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► do things like pull out the microfilm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► from newspapers from the eighteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► play-by-play of games that didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► modern box scores and everything so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► so it's yeah you can't just make stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► up they have to go off reality talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► at least could do world-building any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► just make stuff like they they're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► we've got hundreds of years of actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► history of every single out and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2457">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► single game and every single player and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► what they did and what you can know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► about them in the drama's between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► teams and moving teams from states [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► there's no fanfic and baseball they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► realize fantasy baseball you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► no I want to grab these people from this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► team and put the Great's of every error [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► combined but you know there was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► designated hitter but the pictures are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► allowed to use tools that makes it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► makes a really great point because while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► I've been sitting here detailing off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► ways which I was an incredibly geeky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► person in high school which I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► one of the other things that I did in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► high school was I was in a dice baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► league and we played we have a league we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► have players it was based on a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► called sports illustrated baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► but it was all you had little player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► cards and you had died so i didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► dnd but I had fake baseball and we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► play at lunchtime and we will play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► baseball games and so that was a sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► geeky thing but if you took the sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► part out of it why couldn't it have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► does the Dragons except i was Babe Ruth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► instead of you know paladin with my plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► 2 sword now you'll find that the group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► the rule set is very flexible you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► apply it to baseball easily excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► driver to make a saving throw to catch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► I'm sure someone has made a role-playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► game based on baseball collectible card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► google google it but if I google it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► patton oswalt will be mad at me all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► potential baseball cards of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► you've cracked the otaku how dare you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► break into their perfect seal world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► yeah I don't know I I can come back that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► I know how seriously i can take any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► that because 50-percent through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► article goes off into just a comedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► yes so happy so can you take the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► part seriously at all it's almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► just like this elaborate setup you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► I think that was an interesting question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► even if he's not entirely taking it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► seriously right i mean that the i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► fascinated by the idea that you know our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► our our geeky things geeky because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► nobody cares about them you know or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► and it hasn't been as the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► ruined being a geek which I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► is true but i think it's an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► question the whole article can see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► could be summed up with get off my lawn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► right you did anybody has any key didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2576">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► commit to that it's more like a troll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► it's like make something that I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► will get people riled up because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► myself don't agree with it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► continue on to my comedy routine its its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► its form like a pretty classic internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► troll anywhere i just don't get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► feeling that he believes any of it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► he says ridiculous controversial things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► that will get people riled up and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► just never minus the comedy routine so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► John zombie spaceship or wasteland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► yeah that is my question here we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► go around the room I you know you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► understand so you're on the team that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► did the territory of the pyro everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► but me most is have you read the road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► speaking of mainstream posted it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► be argued as being shandra the road is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► whoo boy it but I love it but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► that's a mainstream that was an open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► book club selection book that is in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► you cannot say that it's not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► science fiction essentially writer or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► of that kind of thing right now it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► have used some quote characters i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► thought well Cormac McCarthy rights in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► the way that he writes he doesn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► comment that got an open little club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► because they don't dwell on the science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► character study and that stuff is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► background so it gets wise people is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► interested in what happened to the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► where is the sci-fi fan like if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► to tell me about the world now i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► accept the chapter of exposition but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► if I was ok with I mean I i love that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► was just in a different world are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► know I like to understanding that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► have a high tolerance for that type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► thing whereas over the book club who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► just wants to you know see the wrenching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► human drama happens you know Dan more'n [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► because we have to mention him even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► he has another podcast he's written two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► books of a I think trilogy hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► Oprah fanfiction that our witness that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► are open fanfic city has gonna admit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► post-apocalypse tears are real future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► don't kid yourself that's right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► Oprah why we overthrow Oprah and create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► the apocalypse that's how that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► but no dance written a couple novels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► that are in an apocalyptic wasteland so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► you should heat you see you feel well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► although being hypocritical you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► you might be afraid I've asked a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► times he doesn't want ah ok fair enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► just for you Scott yeah there's a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► people but yeah yeah I feel honored that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► saw zombie spaceship wasteland Scott did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► you just call me Zod me I mean before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► i think it's obviously i am a spaceship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► I have a spaceship come aboard the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► feeling I was gonna put you on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► apocalypse after all your tales of anti [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► social gaming behavior with geeks but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► maybe that's just one aspect of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► life that I am I am only that mean when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► I am Adi app or a player I guess play or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► really it's a spaceship spaceship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► faraway places and adventures on world's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► not before seeing i guess i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► don't even know if I am I think I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► against this classification is what i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► trying to say well i think i need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► have a better definition says we heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2757">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► apocalypse when I just guessed that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► it's closed society has broken down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► after scape has happened and your job is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► to run the landscape avoiding the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► avoiding the bands of people who want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► petrol and empty house last how is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► how is that different from zombie I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► believe zombie is that everybody else is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► a zombie and it's you versus nature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► whereas apocalypse is there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► you're on your own you it's it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► it's you looking around at the broken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► maniacally to yourself as you master it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► oh that was that was my take so at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► zombie spaceship or wasteland well I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► know I've actually thought about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► question since reading the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► essay and I was the kid who really loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► the mist mixed-up files of basil leaf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► miss Battley frankweiler because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► fantasy of living in a museum like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► I was little I used to fantasize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► someday I come all ye everybody out my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► can live in the Smithsonian and then i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► will admit the stand is beach reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► because I kind of love with a plague in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► the world empties out we'll see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► happens when an apocalypse person with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► definitely because the stand was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► oh my god I love that book still um but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► I have to admit there's actually also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► something tremendously appealing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► the whole spaceship I've stopped my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► little vessel and i'm off in search of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► yes so step one is just a spaceship it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► that's right it's a broken spaceship as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► cheesy as it sounds as cheesy as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► sounds I think having a baby may have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► wasteland metaphor over to the spaceship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► metaphor possible because I feel better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► about putting a baby on a spaceship than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► i do strapping her to my back and movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► across the wasteland she could end up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► Superman you know that's what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► when you put a baby on a spaceship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► that's true so Jason Jason are you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► zombie a spaceship or whatever the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► one was we always manage to police i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► want i think i'm on the spaceship I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► I'm on the spaceship like i said is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► a Zeppelin is just a spaceship that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► hasn't reached orbit yet but definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► the I would i wrote a piece for the late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► great website TV that we used to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► about Star Gate when it first came on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► and that that's a franchise that as many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► do degraded over time but one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► class stargate universe one of it one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► the things I was a stargate universe is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► better than the other spin-off but and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► john scalzi was involved and I like his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► book so I charitable toward it but um uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► huh but the original stargate what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► loved about it was something that I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► like even start record lost after they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► built up too much of the universe and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► you weren't out on the fringes anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► which was with stargate just had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► barest of and there's no spaceship by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► the way but still it had that idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► they turn this device on and you took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► step through it and you're on another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► adventure way to do there and you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► never been there before and I that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2937">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► tremendously appealing that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► thing you know that show ended up being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► there's a conspiracy and a government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► bureaucracy and all these just things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► spaceship at one point just terrible but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► but when it was the purity of just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► know we've got a gadget that will let us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► step through to other planets and we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► have adventures there i love that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► that kind of pure concept and anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► that includes MacGyver house but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► sliders and MacGyver yes and when it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► over sliders and also here's the here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► another thing that was great about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► slightest well-shot sliders cheesier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► than Stargate my wife loves Stargate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► i've only seen one episode of stargate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► and I thought it was awful but when told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► that i saw a bad episode so it's i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► say that at least half of them are awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► because the show lasted like ten years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► and only the first five were really any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► good i saw where they traveled back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► the sixties or something and yeah future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► podcast top equation talking about sighs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► sci-fi actors and why some actors are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► permanently left in in the sci-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► circuit yellow these names yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2997">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► have been speaking of stargate because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2998">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► you ended up with the characters from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► the actress from farscape first game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► against a woman show and bed router and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► claudia black both ended up on Stargate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► and I felt like really you know Brett [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► been prouder I thought he was a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► good leading man and he knew kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► never made aware as you have nathan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► fillion got out of the ghetto and is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► yeah or or add involved one who's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► get out his shows right castles you love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► cast literature you think he got out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► a ghetto I think he would her into all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► neighborhood would you rather be on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► hit sci-fi show with a cult following or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► it's not a nobody or no i don't watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► development often John he's castle heaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► castles got ratings that keeps getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► renewed and you know what that means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► that means nathan fillion is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► pretty soon he's gonna have enough money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► to buy the rights to find it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► yeah well Adam Baldwin sort of bounced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► in and out because you know people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► like oh it's animal mother and then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► was in firefly in there he's on shop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► which is kind of geeky show but it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► big step down compared those characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► that make sense before compare these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► characters which is the better character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► if you were an actor would you be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► happier playing Jane or playing whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► the heck that guy seemed as on Chuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► Casey I'm Casey see this is hard because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► they get and I feel like this is geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► heresy we're getting off the podcast i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► not a huge firefly fans so it's hard by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► us either last is over his pocket but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► fire/5 not so good if oh I'm wounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► Firefly is not bet that by good I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► always suspected that if they're like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► league of lady geek side be kicked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► just because I've never really connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► with any weed and stuff but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► it's about it'sit's i would also be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► kicked out of the leading league of lady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► cakes for the same reason for just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► reason just that really the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► yeah because there's this new i see are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3117">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► you guys aware that there's a site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► called the Mary Sue that just launched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► its supposed to be a celebration of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► women and geeks and geeky lady culture i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► have not heard about yeah it's called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► it's called the Mary Sue and and this it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► actually ties into this topic because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► get the sense it's trying very hard in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► way yeah but I think there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► to the case that there is a sort of new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► generation of of women i mean i alluded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► to that point with doctor who i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► introduced lots of women friends of mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► to the new doctor who and they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► generally loved it and it's a lot looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► a lot of the same people who love Buffy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► and and you know part of that is my just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► are women watching Jean Run shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► because of course when I was in high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► school we hello girls anywhere LOL yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► so but I so I think there is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► to that in fact the point now where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► think there is a probably a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► subculture of of woman oriented geeky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► stuff and and knowing you Lisa I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► surprised that you might kind of lifts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► probably play and it i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► probably just maybe a function of age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► if what is so great about everybody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► logs that they don't want people if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► are our lawns not you're so get off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► we've mastered the 1i know where every I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► know the history of every kind of blade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► of grass cuts on it I think I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► think the objection i have to too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► self-consciously positioning lady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► cassandra is I is it's using jet it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► using jet genders a differentiator and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► the reason I object to that is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► you're instantly setting it up where if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► a not be one-half there they're working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► in opposition to each other so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► implies one is better than the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► either by virtue of exclusion by virtue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► of the other I mean it goes back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► simone de beauvoir and gender theory and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► all that and i just have to raise the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► question why bother gendering your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► well I'm have scott wants to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3237">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► why should it matter that he's a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► yeah yeah because I have to be honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► growing up with that one of the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► ways i talk to boys growing up to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► honest was was because we could talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► about things like Dungeons and Dragons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► or the science fiction books were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► already or comic books or things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► that um that was that was common ground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► where I felt comfortable discussing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► with him and I would hate to think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► this stuff being you know thrown into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► gender get out one way or another and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► honestly is a five-year-old getting into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► Star Blazers in battlestar galactica [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► which like air back-to-back on some TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► I'll start coming back i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► going to be on TV again we're going back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► on TV I hope so I would love to i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► haven't seen that in years i would love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► to see how it matches up but it never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► will never look bored yeah you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► never occurred to me at five that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► wasn't supposed to like these shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► space or or that they were boys or girls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► shows they were simply think that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► uncomfortable with attaching gender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► labels to it because i feel like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► know you're trying you're sticking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► people in a box or yourself or if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► like all this asset for girl geeks what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► that suggests is that it's not normal to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► be a girl who's into geeky things and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► youryour either you know as subliminally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► enhancing this sense of abnormality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► people have or you're trying to create a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► sense of anxiety that something is or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► so just trying to cash in on the lady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► celebrities that you want for harry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► potter yeah so that's why this with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► oh I he doesn't do it for me so maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► can't connect with that now he well I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► got there's a picture on my flickr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► account of my wife standing in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► experienced lebanon at it and unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► your dad your own different ways trucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► different strokes different but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► think it's I don't think the caster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► because the ladies like them i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► don't want to be good at this so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► something to that if you look at all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3357">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► shows that that women tend to like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► and that obviously I was gonna say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► before the gender thing about the girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► shorthand is the other way its cause and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► effect is the other way is that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► are things that typically women like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► I you know interpersonal relationships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► instead of power fantasies or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► just hard sci-fi or whatever dialogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► character yet and they take any show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► strongly in it and they say oh now this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► is great this is your girl's fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► because it doesn't but it's you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► works both ways it guys like that too is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► just you know it's a continuum of one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► direction so as soon as you cross over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► that line of having just too much love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► interest or too much you know personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► drama or emotional stuff and not enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► explosions or teleportation or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► stuff like that then it becomes a girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► fantasy and then you're like hey we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► market this and put it in a pink box we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► can say it's you know it's it's a girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► fantasy doing when really it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► sci-fi story with less one thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► more of another yeah we're just just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3417">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► weed my mean are not to get back to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► reputation for being a girl Kate well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► he's got he's got a feminist message and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► everything he doesn't have a strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► women characters and and that women like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► his shows and that's that's fine but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► firefly had great women characters but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► it with a male lead Buffy had a female [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► lead but as a guy who discovered Buffy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► there's something for everyone in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► Buffy Buffy not unattractive and many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► the other women women on that show where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► were we were quite attractive and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► were male kind of geek wish-fulfillment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► characters like sander in particular so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► you know he had something for everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► but and again so why yeah why draw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► lines I i do think sometimes it's okay i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► would say like i'll be at stuff and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► firefly because I can almost pushed over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► into if you have to label them girl get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► your geek you label them girl geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► because all those shows were about human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► drama and not about like firefly wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► about what made the spaceship fly or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► what kind of technology was going on or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► what happened to the universe that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► completely a character drama and buffing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► was like you weren't really interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► that much in like a no vampires how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► they work was the character drama [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► coming-of-age story so those you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► you had two categories and you'd have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► call them girl geek luckily they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► do that but you can see some cynical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► person wrapping these up and saying oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► you know like twilight was heavily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► marketed because there's like nothing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► there for the guys you know so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► that's obviously way over the other side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► of the spectrum but it's more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► marketing decision i think then saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► all guys aren't going to like firefly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► relationships no guys love it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► they like all that stuff to write but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► was the accusation you know Russell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► Russell Davis got about a doctor who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► forty-year-old or 40 or 50 year old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► doctor who fans from the old days you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► said I'm tired of seeing all this soap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► opera and soap opera was code for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► characters with actual life thoughts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► emotional resources yeah and another in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► a backstory and a family and a life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► they're like I don't want that I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► bedded rubber suits like what you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► famous just stand around and look pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► it's doctor who you'll get the robot men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► and rubber seals have feelings but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► you're gonna put your memory and do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► not bleed rubber they have feelings but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► they don't backstories will we be sad if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► they died that that would be extending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► I don't want to be sad when they kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► the monster I just want them to kill the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► alright what have we learned we learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► anything or did we just go around Big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► ok no one agrees no one agrees with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► anything in the article i think it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► class now I i do think that we can agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► that the article was geeky in the sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► that you know once again you have a geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► who's attempting to put a framework [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► around something because it's a it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► handy way of understanding the world so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► we just integrate the framework i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► it was trolling in controlling is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► yeah yeah or maybe it was a way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► promote this book I mean we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► zombie invasion place Landers got to I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► sure was a way to promote this book but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► I know it was you know it was it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► provocative and even if it was silly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► into a wacky wacky comedy routine which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► I you know I didn't think it was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► funny that in the end of the only comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► book that remains is Steve goes around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► on shade the changing man I mean that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► funny in a way but it's you know not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► particularly deep that's ok he sold some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► books right I didn't buy his book he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► got all that he saw one bookcase he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► got all that ratatouille money to fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► ratatouille don't listen to Patton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► yeah dad that's something I was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► mention early on is is those are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► separate spheres no don't don't listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► to the Patton Oswalt of here if you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► kid who likes funnier at movies i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► recommend i recommend the secret of him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► if you like like fighting rodent themed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► kids movies and you should check out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► George Carlin stand up if you like road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► themed movies and on that note i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► going to declare this a zombie wasteland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3656">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► Chloe look spectacular space images we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► fled to the spaceship and left the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► zombie wasteland behind so until next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► time i'd like to thank my delightful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► Lisa thank you and thanks for suggesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► the topic well I had fun with everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► i was placed to podcast with people John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► siracusa thank you for being here as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► yes great having you and Scott McNulty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► thank you very much you made me laugh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► again thank you Jason you will always be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► my lady geek until next time on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHmGFU/3689">TS</a>]