The Incomparable

00:00:00 ◼   ► the following podcast is about a movie [TS]

00:00:01 ◼   ► that's rated R as a result it does [TS]

00:00:04 ◼   ► include some salty language if your ears [TS]

00:00:07 ◼   ► are sensitive or if the ears of those [TS]

00:00:09 ◼   ► around your sensitive please use caution [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► while listening to this episode [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► incomparable podcast number 74 December [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► from the penthouse high atop to tell me [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► power [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► it's the uncomfortable podcast i am your [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► host Jason snow we are joined today by [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► Steve let's hello Steve [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► hellooo and Dan Morgan I like to think [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► of myself as the the john mcclain to [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► your Hans Gruber if you are huh [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► oh do you now and then who steve is he [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► like samuel l jackson from die hard with [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► a vengeance [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► I a magical veljohnson and don't forget [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► it all right he's yeah and playing [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► playing the part of Argyll trapped in [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► the basement inmate parking garage is [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► greg Moss who says he'll join us but is [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► out buying a Christmas tree now just [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► something appropriate [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► that's right there's a there's a [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► Christmas tree and diehard so the topic [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► today if you haven't guessed already is [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► the classic heartwarming holiday film [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► diehard from 1988 starring bruce willis [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► znowu you maybe you may be saying how in [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► the world is diehard up a christmas [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► movie and in fact I was taken aback on [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► Twitter the other week when Dan more'n [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► declared boldly that die hard is the [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► greatest christmas movie of all time [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► dan explain yourself oh well i mean [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► first of all I mean obviously since [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► diehard takes place at Christmas that's [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► what gives it it's Christmas flavor but [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► it's not just like a a backdrop like oh [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► yeah Christmas sort of part of it i mean [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► Christmas plays a pretty a pretty [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► crucial role in this entire plot not [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► only from the premise but also you know [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► the the very resolution in fact the [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► climax of the whole film is due to to [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► wrapping materials so you know i think i [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► think it is intrinsically a Christmas [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► movie and some people make my point to [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► you know tape it might add [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► yes it is some wonderful Christmas only [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► wrapping materials known as take ya to [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► help is available at the time I believe [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► it is christmas themed tape it does say [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► Christmas greetings or something on it [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► is every kindness [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► I'm just saying but you know nonetheless [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► yeah but you don't have to like wrapping [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► tape sit [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► around come on come on ok so so let's [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► start this from the beginning John [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► McClane New York cop he's a cop on the [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► edge and he's flying he's flying in to [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► LAX with his with his gun on his person [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► in order to see his estranged wife who [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► is now going by her maiden name and [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► range due to his own failings and [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► rightly rise key right that that she got [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► this great job offer and he was [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► unsupportive and and so and so she took [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► the job and brought the kids and came to [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► LA and he would stay back in New York [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► what I think is interesting is that [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► Holly his wife played by bonnie bedelia [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► is a little surprised to see him which I [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► never read quite understood how she was [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► surprised to see him and yet apparently [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► mr. Takagi her boss had sent a limousine [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► to pick up his his VP's estranged [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► husband location is covered [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► yes she knows he's coming but like she [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► doesn't expect him to come to the party [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► the party I think takagi basically [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► interception like hearing he's going to [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► be in town [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► it's like oh I'll send a limo bring him [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► to the party but it is true that mr. [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► Hogg is sort of like mr. kind of [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► romantic setup guy where he's like oh [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► I'll said I'll send a limousine you see [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► where that gets I mean I really I'll [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► about you know through about the first [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► 15 minutes [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► this could be a romantic comedy right [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► you know there's there's sort of a pivot [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► point there at one point [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► well there-there is the then there's the [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► scene where we see Alan Rickman as hot [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► grouper and then it's not a it's what i [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► mean i want to point out that that I [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► think one of the things that makes that [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► hard such a great movie and this is just [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► you know an overall thing is that it has [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► got a super-tight script like it's one [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► of those scripts that sort of perfectly [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► follows that whole pattern of like he be [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► here when you're your beats come like [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► because really like 15-minute mark rolls [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► around and that's the first time you see [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► you like mud the truck that like all the [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► villains are coming in like driving down [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► the street and everything in it is like [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► really paste and really [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► you know really tight there's a there's [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► an economy all the stuff that you need [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► to know that it's like set up in the [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► first 15 minutes [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► things are alluded to ahead of time like [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► there's there's an economy in the script [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► of everything that you need to know is [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► mentioned at some point and so there's [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► not a lot of like that came out of left [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► field or more stuff like that there [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► there's a lot of a lot of setup for it [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► and it's really well done that this [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► there's not a lot of extraneous material [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► like that whole long speech i just gave [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► which was full of extraneous material [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► and yes it's a it's not a short film for [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► all of that but it feels like it goes by [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► darn fast [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► oh yeah don't worry about two hours and [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► fifteen or something yeah it's about two [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► and a quarter i was watching it with my [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► I actually convince my parents to watch [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► it the other night which is kind of [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► interesting sort of coup but I you know [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► we we want about an hour of it while my [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► mother was decorating the Christmas tree [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► and then after dinner we're going back [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► to call how much is left like like half [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► an hour 45 minutes like actually like an [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► hour and a quarter left like really like [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► what we only just got to like this point [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► but one of the things that I find funny [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► about this movie is that there are these [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► strange characters that are our have a [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► small part to play and uh i think in a [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► lot of modern movies especially action [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► movies first off you would see the [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► villain even earlier but you would also [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► not have these characters that kind of [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► pop in and then pop away again and I'm [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► thinking particularly about there's Al [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► the the sergeant who doesn't even show [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► up for like when a live man it's an hour [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► yeah yeah yeah he only has the one seen [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► with bruce willis the rest of it he's [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► you know in the parking lot with the FBI [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► guys and and the with the applicative [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► eighties dickhead actors yes deputy [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► police chief 20 Robinson that's Tracy [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► and the incomparable william atherton [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► who is well tastic I was gonna say the [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► yes the incomparable william anthony [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► joins us now for about ready yet so we [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► imagine he's another one of these [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► characters that sort of like doesn't [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► show up for a long time William Atherton [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► ok let's let's let's stop for a second [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► way masterton this man is like the home [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► run hitter [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► of-of jerk villain figures in eighties [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► movies and this is like his I guess this [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► is sort of a capper because previously [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► he appeared in ghostbusters as as Walter [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► Peck the EPA man [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► yes it's true this man has no dick and [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► and my personal favorite and also one of [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► my personal favorite films of all time [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► real genius where he brought his Jerry [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► Hathaway the science professor who gets [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► his students to develop death race for [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► the government while he's hosting a [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► public TV show it in in which by [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► contrast he could actually hammer a [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► 6-inch spike through a board with his [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► dick [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► yes that's very dresser him that's yeah [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► so your hammer later and in this he's [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► the vein TV reporter and he reprises his [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► role i guess in die hard to but boy I [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► that guy I really i mean what i want a [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► fantastic actor doing a I just a series [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► of horrible horrible characters so well [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► on me and you match that in with with [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► Paul Gleason who plays 20 Robinson who [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► also is the principal in the breakfast [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► club Bible you mess with the bull you [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► get the horns up I mean what a great [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► combo right there and I guess characters [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► you know who I don't think interact at [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► all in die hard but like they're kind of [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► like a one-two punch it doesn't get [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► better than that it reminds me of my [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► dream of the of a sitcom involving [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► Norman fell and vic tayback is [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► mismatched roommates i'm sure it doesn't [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► get better than that [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► yeah we also the FBI man now agent [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► Johnson and special agent John Doe relay [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► no relation to Johnson's sure I mean [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► they're really don't like what great [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► characters though because you know of [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► course they show up very late in the [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► film and they have kind of a you know [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► climactic it's sort of about the reward [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► is for their exit but they had which is [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► the best line in the entire film to my [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► mind [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► well I guess we're gonna need some more [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► FBI guys for right right because they [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► decide to take a ride on the helicopter [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► which is like Vietnam basic [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► I was in one of our high school we we [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► may we may end up just quoting dialogue [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► from this movie that would be extremely [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► well written though I mean like that for [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► its kind of the seminal like you know [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► action movie right i mean well certainly [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► write a it is the model because they [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► were how many movies that were diehard I [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► on a bus and die hard work but I was [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► trying to think [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► earlier today what really came before [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► that was similar to die hard I mean was [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► it really a turning point for action to [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► end things like like that the Poseidon [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► Adventure in my sure you have weirdo [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► films with huge set pieces and the [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► showers and never know [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► kind of yeah but you also be action [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► movies like Rambo or or predator or you [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► know things like that were you know [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► action movies but but Dinah and you can [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► point to cop movies like like bullet or [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► dirty harry you know for a certain type [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► of it but this isn't really act like a [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► cop movie right like he's not doing [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► anything a cop would do he's just the [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► wrong guy in the wrong place right and [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► he's very much in every man whereas you [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► know you look at something like Rambo [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► it's this this guy who can take out [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► entire villages with his flight [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► I mean that whole point where he's like [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► you know I love you know the first time [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► I remember seeing this and i love the [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► whole thing with you where you get a [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► certain way into the film and then [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► really realize the he's been running [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► around with no shoes for the last hour [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► and then of course the scene where they [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► shoot the broken glass out to try and [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► prevent him from sure you know the gloss [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► run across Jesus I'm stuff that it's [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► more so speaking of bad German that's [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► the other thing that this movie has in [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► common with raiders of the lost ark in [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► addition to the bed German is why i was [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► watching it I i realized that Bruce [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► Willis it in this movie does a lot of [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► the same things that that Harrison Ford [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► doesn't raise the lost art these are [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► heroes who were kind of reluctant and [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► get their butts kicked and are in pain [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► it and are not having a good time [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► they're vulnerable absolutely not [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► they're not Superman at all know that's [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► one of the great things about is the [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► John McClane is out of sorts and even [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► though he does these kind of super [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► heroic things and he's smart [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► you know he also does some things where [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► he almost dies and in hindsight he [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► realizes were bad ideas but love that [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► scene where he talks to himself like the [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► big my favorite team meeting you [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► what when he's on the roof and he ties [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► the fire hose around himself and he's [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► like started talking to fuck you doin [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► John you know [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► yeah and there's the scene where he's [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► down in the in the the dance of course [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► because there are always fence [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► this must be this must be the seminal [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► event movie at least write the ground [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► through those got events there's [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► somebody and action this one time harden [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► a building [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► yeah it is it is well I laughed when I [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► saw the credits roll and I saw that I [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► think beyond dubont is the [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► cinematographer on this movie director [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► of photography who went on to two rappy [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► grade which is a die-hard on a bus [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► more or less right pretty much yeah [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► with fewer events yes yes but more [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► windows and although he doesn't make [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► quite a bit of use of the floor panels [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► in that film so I think floor panels [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► with the new vents right whatever speed [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► came out that's a that's a that's good [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► knowledge there I'll one of the UM so [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► that so there's the holiday party that's [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► happening very eighties one of the [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► things i noticed watching it again last [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► week is that it's very eighties in its [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► attitude toward a sort of the American [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► attitude toward the world in the [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► eighties which was that everything was [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► going to be about the Germans and the [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► Japanese and so in this in a future [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► belongs to the Germans the Japanese so [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► in this movie we have the giant Japanese [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► firm run by the guy from Japan even [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► though he went to Harvard and [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► yadda-yadda we get the whole back story [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► before he gets killed and the Germans [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► are the robbers and they're the bad guys [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► but it's this I was sitting there [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► thinking well yeah in 1988 we thought [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► that was what the 21st century was going [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► to be it so we're very forward thinking [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► it's gonna all be about the Germans and [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► the Japanese which didn't happen you [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► know so it's very eighties they got that [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► they got the Christmas party going on [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► but it doesn't get much more eighties [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► than the Japanese guys saying we got you [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► with tape decks haha [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► another great line it will be a day very [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► soon when no one knows what the hell [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► that means some nice Alice another [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► character who is interesting and he he's [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► got a lot of a lot of cocaine going on [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► so that's the eighties right there are [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► so I is speaking of speaking to the [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► takagi those interesting point in terms [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► of history of the flipside of a lot of [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► the other characters and that we get a [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► whole lot of [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► like about him up front right yeah and [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► he gets shot like half an hour into the [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► movie [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► yeah he's the janet leigh of the film [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► it's more that's what you took on he's [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► going to be important [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► no not so much yeah he's the guy that we [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► were supposed to be leave all he can't [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► get shot because he's got this much you [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► know he's got all this backstory right [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► well he exists you just email us how [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► ruthless like horses right but um so one [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► of the things that surprised me about [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► this when you watch it back knowing [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► what's going to happen you can sort of [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► see how they're setting this up but I i [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► think one of the things that I always [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► thought was clever about die hard was [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► the fact that you are set up to believe [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► that the bad guys are terrorists [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► alright who want to do you know do [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► create a terrorist incident and that's [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► what they're all about their radical [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► left wing terrorist group and I and in [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► fact they end up doing that with the [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► cops and using that to their advantage [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► but you discover that they're just [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► leaves and icing over that very early [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► yeah I was a project to realize that way [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► back to in that like we the audience [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► find that out a lot earlier than I [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► remembered [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► it'sit's pretty upfront in the movie I [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► mean like that obviously the rest of the [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► characters are sort of kept in the dark [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► and are figuring it out but we as the [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► audience already in on that fairly early [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► on in the movie but there's a really [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► nice moment where where where there's [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► that realization of you know you guys [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► are just you know criminals they're just [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► thieves you're not you know stand for [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► anything but they still made exceptional [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► thief [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► yeah I but it it also provides great [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► moments 44 Rickman to really I i love [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► the scene where he's demanding the [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► release of all the political prisoners [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► and he's just starts naming these guys [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► because is my friends in the Asian dawn [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► and lieutenants and rotation along with [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► agent i read about them in time magazine [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► like that-that great i must only 60 [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► minutes [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► there's lots of those kind of a joke [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► obviously [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► Hans grouper who I almost called John [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► group of there by the way [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► Hans Gruber is is very savvy about about [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► American culture as he as he steals the [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► bearer bonds from the vault that is [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► being protected by eight seals seven of [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► which are apparently operated by a max [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► headroom computer [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► I was the eighties everybody had an [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► accent which can do forward with some [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► variety of large industrial drill [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► yes yes I mckenna and and digits [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► although again in that you've got the [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► very clever build-up where there's that [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► last one and he keeps saying you know [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► the last 1i can't do anything about the [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► last one it it you know while they tell [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► you very early on like the power it has [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► to be the cut power has to be cutting it [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► can't be done locally [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► yeah like that setup in the first like [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► like five minutes at the bad guys appear [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► and then you spend all that time being [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► told no no that's the hard one that's a [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► hard 1i want to go after what a miracle [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► i give you the f.b.i no stop [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► Hans grouper is a is a smart guy and I [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► guess that's the point of the movie is [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► he would have gotten away with it if it [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► weren't for you meddling John McClane [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► although his plans really start going [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► awry extremely early in the film and [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► just get just gets worse and worse as it [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► goes along and yet what's interesting is [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► that his plan continues to unfold in [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► almost exactly the way he had hoped it [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► would I I do notice that they seem and [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► watching it again that they seem a lot [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► less concerned about the fact that many [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► of their compatriots in this mission are [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► dead as it goes along like that you know [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► really in the end the four core guys are [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► like yeah you know other than one who [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► loses his brother right everybody else [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► is like yeah Carl is very upset about [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► other guys are dead back and yet more [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► than a film car almost blows the whole [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► thing by cutting through the pipes with [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► his chainsaw what the other guys still [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► working on the phone lines [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► yeah that's he never made really that [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► much sense to me you know why he wants [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► to move it along [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► so he's just gonna cut it and make the [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► other guy work more work faster [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► yeah it's a sibling rivalry yeah that's [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► what it ok so where there's a lot of [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► depth here that I don't think we've [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► explored so so so argyle what's the deal [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► with what's the deal with argyle well [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► emmanuel lewis was looking for a roll-on [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► god no no it's not Emanuel Lewis out [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► well now you're gonna tell me the other [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► guys and Steve Urkel backer that that [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► know that circle [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► yeah yeah LOL Reginald veljohnson was [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► the tip-off yeah exactly [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► arca I mean he's sort of their for comic [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► relief right by Yogi and a lot of he'll [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► spend a lot of the movie not doing [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► much no he's down there talking to his [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► girlfriend and whining about her hair [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► drinking out of the borrower could live [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► bear what role the bear play I mean come [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► on [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► stuffed bear in the back of a limo the [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► guy who plays the barest great it's a [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► great pair now I'm trying to remember if [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► there's if the bear makes an appearance [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► in the final scene when they get into [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► the limo instead of an ambulance for [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► some reason and drive off [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► there's all everything if you had the [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► choice a rex limo to like how far I mean [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► it becomes manageable for the little [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► crap it's a little moisture in the front [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► but come on [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► yes true he piles into the van he drives [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► through the gate which for some reason [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► it stopped him previously when he was [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► when he realized the terrorists had [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► taken over the building was your body [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► for writing the limo them that was [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► wrapped right so i'm not sure that you [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► questioning our girls judgment [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► no I'm not argyle is e is infallible [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► yeah I mean yes to invoke it just like [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► the poke [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► that's right maybe just juiced up [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► because he took out the the other do the [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► Urkel yeah child star on child star [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► violence is really ugly do i gotta say [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► so [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► al Powell are Reginald veljohnson right [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► as are acting unbelievably incidentally [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► all but he's great he's wonderful [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► I wouldn't have it any other way but his [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► line readings are so over-the-top and [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► and he's like the most he's the typical [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► cop right he's the fat don't shot a kid [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► buying Cobb that but that man surprised [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► that he didn't shoot a kid on like the [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► day before the kid was going to retire [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► so they can teach you almost anything at [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► the academy but they can't teach you how [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► to move on [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► whatever it is live with a mistake live [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► with a mistake [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► that's right right we meet him at the at [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► the convenience store buying junk food [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► right but immediately even though he is [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► the typical cop right like that's kind [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► of diffused by the fact that you know it [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► brings all the stuff in you that the guy [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► behind the counter looking at him like [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► about you guys just a donuts for my wife [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► she's pregnant [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► uh-huh whatever like you know that it [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► kind of acknowledges ok we're kind of [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► being seen [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► typical but you know this guy is it [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► really stereotypical accept Tia's he [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► kinda he's competent right he's [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► competent compared to everybody else at [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► the parking lot [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► well everybody else is ridiculously in [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► kept the car get the car wasn't in the [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► car [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► my favorite thing is that the the SWAT [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► team is totally incompetent right [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► there's a scene where they walk through [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► like like rose bushes already have roots [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► out not really [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► this is the worst SWAT team ever write [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► like they do not come off well at all [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► I mean you know and that's one of those [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► elements that you sort of makes this all [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► its it's very you know i'm not sure i [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► would give enough credit to say it's [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► very satirical and in its outlook of [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► like the police but it's certainly in [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► complementary oh I would I would I i [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► think actually one of the things that [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► surprises me and watching this movie now [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► is just how much of it is a satire [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► because it's not just the cops right if [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► there's this whole media satire where we [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► keep coming back over at the station [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► I mean it's at least fifty percent a [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► comedy movie i'm even the actually sleep [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► with liners that little Scott this [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► because he was he was the comedian at [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► the time right here is exact he was [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► moonlighting yeah right i mean vision [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► this is the movie that made him an [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► action star previous to that he was not [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► really bankable as a as any sort of [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► action star it's the movie that gave him [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► a career beyond what he was destined for [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► at that point which was maybe I don't [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► know another year and a half of romantic [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► comedies before he got to ball to make [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► that work [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► right right so i really hope he says [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► joel silver a real nice Christmas card [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► every every year you get the fruit [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► basket Hanukkah card or whatever the UH [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► so that the TV news what is fascinating [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► because they've got this really broad [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► I'll silky sweet [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► yeah well thats oh so the first off late [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► stockholm said yes right right so they [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► call it to Helsinki syndrome which is [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► weird and then we'll says I think [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► they're making fun of the expert there [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► before they get to making sure that the [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► new I know if they're that or they're [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► just trying to like maybe we shouldn't [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► talk about Stockholm Syndrome it's very [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► weird right right it's been it's [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► confusing and and but the the anchorman [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► is an idiot and and then there's William [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► Atherton who seems smarter but he's a [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► jerk and he's of course because its way [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► pathogen and he's feuding with the with [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► the anchorman for some reason and [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► Shanghai is a camera crew and they have [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► been severely reacts hell of a lot worse [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► to eat it Harvey than any man really [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► should I end of all my conversations [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► with that [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► greg kosc joins us argyle has returned [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► from the parking garage [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► welcome to the plot eval thank you [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► it's some of the movies tend to blur [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► together a bit my head they're being you [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► know model except the last one which [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► although not it's not as terrible movie [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► as I thought it would be is by far the [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► worst of the poor you really think so [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► you really take that the die-hard live [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► free or die hard is worse than die hard [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► with a vengeance [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► oh yeah yeah yeah totally i read a [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► review i was reading a post on this the [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► other day and I you know I can't [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► remember most of what happened in live [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► free or die hard and like it's you did [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► their computers and computer hackers I [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► mean at least at least die hard with a [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► vengeance head tamil Jackson jeremy [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► irons you know it had running around New [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► York you know with those heard of [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► puzzles and stuff like that [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► it also had you know the bank heist had [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► some really good lines but what's really [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► a pity they chose to kill off Alan [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► Rickman up with old spoiling the end of [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► diehard while my god be with you [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► they never show his body that he also [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► fingerling every great villain like [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► every great villain he dies by following [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► from something really tall right-hander [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► really would want him to live that would [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► ruin the movie you know you could've [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► thought he died and then have him [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► reappear know that's what Karl's yeah [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► actually I was going to say that one of [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► the most ridiculous thing in this movie [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► for me is the fact that they killed Carl [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► and he just randomly comes back to life [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► so that they could kill him again [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► I didn't actually I've never thought [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► about how ridiculous that was until this [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► time because my parents watching it sort [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► of rolled their eyes at this like really [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► I'm like I remembered that he came back [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► but I I always sort of forgot when he [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► came back how badly [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► mclean had beat the crap out of him [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► right he like he raps a chain around his [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► neck and threw husband gets the wall [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► could that the when he did he did less [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► than he said he would he told me he was [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► gonna fucking kill him fucking click him [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► and rocky fuckin eat him [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► the only thing he said he wouldn't do is [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► fucking shit amount and fucking clear [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► his stink molecules with some fucking [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► late air freshener they missed a product [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► placement [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► I always thought it would be good if at [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► the end you know that whole triumphant [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► scene where Carl appears and then and [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► then al you know gets his mojo back in [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► and takes him out [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► you know I having cleared his finally [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► cleared his mistake of shooting the kid [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► if it turned out that car was [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► brandishing a toy gun let me let me let [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► me postulate not again this is going to [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► hold Mommy's you can see this whole [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► movie as though Carl is the [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► protectiveness whole I just blow your [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► mind [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► I'm not seeing that Dan know his brother [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► gets killed man it's about vengeance he [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► wants blood it's die hard with a [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► vengeance [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► yeah that's the third is his brother [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► gets killed two bag three [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► that's not possible because there's [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► whole generations of terrorists that are [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► going to come after john mccain there's [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► anything good about Carl it's that he [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► was played by the delightful Alexander [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► good enough apparently wasn't good [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► enough to go on to anything else was a [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► dancer [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► yeah that was his gig yeah a very [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► well-known very good one too [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► yes i did he did not get to showcase [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► that at all really [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► we get some nice my kicks in at the end [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► in his fight with the with John yeah I [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► guess I i don't--hey he's one of those [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► immortal action movie villains to you [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► know I guess you gotta have that [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► well you got that you have a rainy guy [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► and then you got the brawny i right [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► like the henchmen yeah then but then [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► you've got a half-dozen sort of [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► completely convertible Eurotrash [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► villains who are there are some of your [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► on some of them are Italian some of the [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► German you really have every Eurotrash [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► archetype going on there [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► get your big bulky german guys you're [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► sort of Russian he dude so so here's a [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► scene that I i really appreciated that I [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► am in watching it again was there's the [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► scene where the guy skills the candy [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► what what yeah the Syrian guys gonna [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► steal the candy but likely he gets he [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► gets the kitty for the little shop in [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► the in the in the lobby of the plaza and [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► then runs back to his post and that is [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► killed but he dies he's driving i'm [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► showing sonu get and a big race every [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► bar yeah that is strange that wasn't [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► what I was thinking [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► dan but that I hit didn't hijack a very [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► strange scene [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► no we're uh we're alan rickman does [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► American accent and and throws himself [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► upon the mercy of John McClane as [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► somebody who's escaped from the bill [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► clay yeah that that's uh that's a great [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► scene and i like that scene because [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► they're not only do we have a what's a [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► really smart plot twist which is a you [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► know showing that hunts Gruber is it's a [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► very smart guy and he's figured out a [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► way to to to get one over on John [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► McClane but that you also see you know [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► well this is McLain gonna figure this [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► out which he does when does he [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► and then there's the interplay when [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► they're trying you know to sort of feel [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► each other out and see if you know if [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► he's really who he says he is [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► that's just such a great scene it's one [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► of the few scenes where the where [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► they're face-to-face if not you know the [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► only one of the things I like about that [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► scene is that when Hans Gruber claims to [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► be built clay John McClane looks over at [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► him and a like a interactive building [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► address board and there's a William clay [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► there and you know to check out the name [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► is real but that means Hans had the [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► foresight to go ahead and look at that [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► like as he walked into the room or just [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► as part of the ambient what he's noticed [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► that right because he's clearly not [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► looking at it in that scene right he [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► can't even see it he's in he's not he's [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► sort of enough it just is next to it and [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► facing away from it's a great city which [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► is that fleshes out his background every [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► room he walks into he Scouts the room [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► for when he's going to need something [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► later but it really is like he's the [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► mastermind right like it's totally he's [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► his operation secondly here it's all [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► planned like everything is sort of [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► perfectly [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► I mean without being like saying [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► stereotypically German but like there is [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► that whole like it's like clockwork [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► right you know his whole this is the [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► plan [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► we're gonna wait for the FBI guys show [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► up they're gonna cut the power that's [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► gonna let us get in here we're gonna [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► blow up the roof so that they think [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► we're all dead we're going to take the [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► the car truck or the ambulance and drive [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► out you know nobody will know we were [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► here he is almost brilliant most [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► efficient most vicious unluckiest [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► terrorists and not even a terrorist just [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► a fake fake terrorist I got invited to [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► the party by accident if mclean had [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► missed his plane or been in traffic or [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► the whole plot goes perfectly well it's [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► really mr. Takagi doesn't think I've got [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► my dr office and argyle to pick him up [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► and bring him to the park [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► ready because Holly's been working very [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► hard and also as a as a Japanese [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► businessman i feel very strongly that [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► the estranged husband and the wife [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► should get back together I don't really [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► know but Takagi's motivation in hiring a [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► limo or worries little dazed argyle just [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► a friend I skies are gonna rent a limo [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► driver or c2 kagaz limo driver it is his [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► first time driving a limo right right [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► used to be a tat used to be a cab driver [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► well its new your it's our Christmas Eve [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► right so how many maybe just falling in [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► is a Christmas Eve yeah that or is it [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► y'all [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► I was Christmas Eve it's the holiday [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► party before Christmas but i'm not sure [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► attack no one does it on Christmas Eve [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► though reading the Japanese only in [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► gremlins where the kids are going to [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► school course but there's nobody else [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► there right like the whole building shut [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► down nobody else around [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► well it's there it's a little direction [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► right America they're building it so [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► it's not completed yet which is why [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► there's all that room for action scenes [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► up in the upper floors [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► I want to put in a good word in this [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► might sound strange but I want to put in [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► a good word for Ellis oh he's lost [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► despite being a stupid like a god damn [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► stupid schmuck [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► haha on co does do he has one very [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► redeeming quality which is that he [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► doesn't give up Holly right in that he [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► he claims to Hans when trying to [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► negotiate and get sort of John to like [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► you know give himself up so that they [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► can all try to go home or whatever or so [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► he's misguided plan is we just actually [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► wind up getting him killed as is right [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► we'll keep tellin Hans has a the John's [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► a friend of his you-know-what find [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► somebody you do care about [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► yeah I don't give them to you he says it [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► and you you are led to believe that [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► Ellis is selling out Holly because he's [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► had this conflict with holly was like [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► guys because your husband he's ruined [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► everything but he doesn't sell he [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► doesn't sell him out he doesn't sell her [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► out that and you know so he's a jerk but [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► he doesn't turn Holly into a hostage and [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► he gets a he gets going he does [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► Selma clean because he gives it all [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► absolutely right but not until Holly out [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► because he's trying to get in your pants [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► so i'm not sure you can really call that [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► a positive that's a hero man now it's [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► the harder i think of diehard has a [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► problem it's that a lot of these [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► ancillary characters [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► that the the douchebags are complete [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► irredeemable douchebags that makes it so [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► great that the Deputy Police the [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► reporter with the FBI guys Ellis they [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► they are i mean well i think McClain and [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► Hans are really really well fleshed out [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► realistic peoplesmart guys everybody [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► else's is almost parody well that that's [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► the you know something that we might [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► have been talking about before you came [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► on as this this strange dichotomy in [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► this movie where there are parts of it [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► that are pretty straight and actually [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► and really great and then there are [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► these parts that are really weird broad [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► satire and funny but a little bit by [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► dissident from the rest of the movie [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► because the elbow cop is that way to [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► robocop has huge wide satire and then [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► there's some really great action scenes [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► baby feels like two different movies not [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► die hard so much petrol become well i [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► mean i think the part of that were [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► diehard comes from the fact that this [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► was adapted from a book basically which [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► was a lot more straight-laced as far as [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► it goes [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► I went and read about this before you [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► know it in in looking stuff up about [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► this because yeah there's a whole [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► different inserted it borrows very [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► heavily from the book but they changed [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► very like certain key things including [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► like instead of Hollywood isn't it the [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► Holly character is actually his daughter [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► instead of his wife and Alice's her [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► boyfriend [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► basically but a lot of the characters [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► are actually pretty similar and they [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► apparently take a lot from it but i [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► guess i think a lot of the satire [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► elements probably came in later on in [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► the process and so I think there is a [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► reason that feels very very conflicted [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► about that in some ways [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► did you know that the book is a sequel [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► to another book that was the source for [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► a 1968 Frank Sinatra movie I did not [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► Frank Sinatra was the original John [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► McClane wow you just in my mind it's [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► called the detective it's not supposed [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► to be very good [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► the guy who wrote the book that the [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► detective was based on wrote the second [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► book as a sequel intending to make it [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► into a movie and Sinatra past and then [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► 20 years later Bruce Willis made it [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► wow they're very much like those too yes [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► it was able to record albums they both [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► acted if you know they're both 20th [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► century American men they both had [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► people killed [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► I i like that further than that die hard [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► 2 is also based on a book by a totally [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► different author yeah it's like they [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► couldn't just come up with an idea for [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► we've already making the first book p [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► but look what they did when they came up [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► with ideas the third and fourth movies [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► I'd much rather have a book that has [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► somebody like a good deal interested in [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► the franchise building a plot one of the [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► things that makes diehard standout for [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► most action movies is the plot makes [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► sense now that everybody's smart it has [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► to stand alone as a book without the [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► whole apparatus of a movie stars and and [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► franchise around it and then if you [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► start with that you can go ahead and [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► make a good movie after you attack all [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► the other crap on do i think i think one [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► of the reasons why we saw so many movies [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► that were diehard in them in an ex right [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► afterward is is the e I'm not sure [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► whether it's true or not but I think [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► there's a perception that the the fact [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► that this is set in a confined space [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► with a confined set of characters and [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► the fact that this movie has a very type [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► of plot and it goes through a stage play [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► it goes from item to item to item and [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► then whether those two are perfectly [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► connected or not I think it's arguable [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► but I think that's why we saw a lot of [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► this is because that's one of the great [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► strengths of diehard right is that it [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► all you know it all follows and and [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► every action that happens really leads [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► to the next action and you never you [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► never have that real sag I think we're [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► thinking about well now what and then [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► there's a new complication that comes in [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► i mean the ester the police come but you [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► know that they're always going to come [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► and they come fairly early so as it [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► turns out necessary [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► yes as it turns out because the police [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► are pretty useless actually also [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► completely I that they need but I guess [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► you gotta get one before you get the [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► other alright and that that plays [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► against the ipod that plays up how what [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► a genius Hans Gruber is right because he [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► wants the police to come [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► he wants them to call the police he [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► wants the police to be there he wants [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► the FBI to come and so all these action [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► movie tropes of like you know we gotta [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► get out of here oh no the cops are here [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► now we're trapped in the bank [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► for khan's grouper he he wants all of [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► the bad things to happen because he's [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► that smart is that he's playing against [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► the expectations that's one of the great [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► things about the movie and then of [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► course there's Bruce Willis who's the [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► monkey in the wrench you can see the [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► monkey in the wrench at the lie that's a [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► lie in the only he's applying the [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► ointment but my okay right right up in [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► the conference room [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► that's right um Alex that's clue [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► the other thing that I don't know if you [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► guys have covered this but the other [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► thing i like about this movie it [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► compared to other action movies of the [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► era is that Bruce Willis appears to be [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► at least marginally human that this is [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► the same thing with Indiana Jones is hot [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► he can get scared he can you [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► yes we do this you've been over this so [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► yeah that's a no that's okay we can we [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► can go back there to it because you're [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► welcome to the party again pal [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► haha no you're exactly right that the [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► it's the vulnerable hero where he there [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► there's some there's a scene where he's [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► like punching his way through a a wall [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► or a piece of glass or something like [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► that you can see him wince and he like [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► doesn't want to do it but he knows he [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► has to you know what the whole audience [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► cringes every time he pulls the glass [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► out of his home God whom [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► yeah and and that's so great to have the [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► vulnerable hero he smart he's vulnerable [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► he's confident because he's like this [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► cop but you know that's not that [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► explains why he can do gunplay and they [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► have some he's not alone but he's not [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► Schwarzenegger right Bobby let's get him [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► in that last scene right worries comes [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► down on you know you got my crap kicked [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► out even shot by that point to get shot [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► in the shoulder he'd been beaten the [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► crap out of my car like in that whole [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► like you know like brawl in the in that [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► room with all the pipes from the boards [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► or whatever I mean you'd run over glass [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► you you know you've done everything [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► there's a scene in the second movie [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► where they're escorting people down this [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► empty airport hallway and well the [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► second movie [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► how can the same thing happened the same [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► guy twice okay why does this keep [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► happening to us and the terrorists are [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► fake painting crew and they opened fire [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► in this ambush and McClain is trapped [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► under would i think the the painting [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► scaffolding and the gun is out of reach [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► and the terrorist is walking down the [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► moving hall with moving stairway moving [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► walkway towards him and he flips the [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► power on and the gun starts moving [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► towards him and that was my favorite [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► scene in the second movie because it was [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► something that was so unexpected as a [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► moviegoer but totally natural and [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► totally something smart character would [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► absolutely smart so what we what we [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► think of area that second movie I you [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► know I think if the time people were [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► impressed that was actually a pretty [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► good movie when everybody assumed the [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► sequel's were going to be lousy and it [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► is impossible in in many ways that this [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► would happen to that guy again but you [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► know it was a very successful movie on [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► top of everything else mean it's not [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► it's it's obviously I think we most was [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► probably agree it's not to the same [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► caliber as die hard but it's still [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► entertain much better than it could have [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► been the sole thing I remember about it [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► having seen it in the theater and then [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► not sense is that it wasn't complete [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► crap that's it stabs a guy in the face [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► with the idea with an icicle some point [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► there's a plane what I remember that [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► whatever made with the the plane crash [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► was I mean devastating at the time it [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► was I remember coverage of how violent [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► movies were that season and they rank [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► the body count of all the action movies [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► that came out and diehard ranked up in [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► the 300 because of the jumbo jetliner [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► crash right flown by colm Meaney by from [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► Star Trek for Brian crashes a plane [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► everybody dies and when that guy is a [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► loser cleans wandering through the [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► racers Richard Thornburg which is pretty [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► great [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► oh yeah yeah William Atherton got I love [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► that guy he is so great in in all its up [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► hehe i just saw him he was on an episode [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► of lost and I you you're not going to [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► believe this but he was playing a kind [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► of a jerk find that hard to believe [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► you're right it's amazing in mind below [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► 0 that that guy so the original the [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► original diehard was directed by john [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► mctiernan who also directed die hard [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► with a vengeance i believe [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► mhm and and then I think recently did [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► some time and is now out on bail [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► there's a great reference to him if you [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► ever watched them do you ever watch [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► alias yesterday rancho absolutely a [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► reference in one episode that's a [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► die-hard light episode where so there [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► pull up and like a like a he hvac like [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► van or something and it's called like [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► McTiernan repairs or something [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► either nice little you know the head so [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► so i guess if we talk about the cultural [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► significance of diehard beyond being the [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► greatest christmas movie ever [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► right then yeah absolutely you know [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► families gather around the hearth on [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► Christmas Eve to watch Bruce never sung [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► a rousing round of your PKA mother I [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► have okay now before so before I get [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► what I was gonna say i'm going to point [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► out if you haven't seen the die-hard [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► music video on youtube by the the band [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► guys night visit that is a great video [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► please go see it because it's an [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► original song about the die hard [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► franchise including those famous words [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► as the chorus and boy try to listen to [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► that man not singers the next five days [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► and they will get out at one point to [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► which was really frustrating because all [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► the clips than the they had a music [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► video with the clips and everything onto [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► the ball it's all back up [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► alka including the 4th verse for [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► die-hard with revenge s or lip print [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► lifted and I hardware they say we don't [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► we have really seen it but we're pretty [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► sure that John McClane kicks ass [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► that's how the song have you talked [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► about have you guys talked about the [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► fifth one yet i was now didn't I know [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► they are diehard movie they've been [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► talking about the what huh [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► now is this like the crystals comments [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► and practical joke of it doesn't really [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► exist [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► yeah this is the caddyshack to of die [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► hard films so there are they doing in a [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► you know how I enjoyed the fourth one as [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► an action movie just as a [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► straightforward actually happy I you [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► know I would I think that's I I'm ok I'm [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► ok with that Bruce Willis is a lot of [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► fun [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► they are currently working on the script [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► Justin Long was not terrible [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► no no I actually really guy i will say [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► my credit goes to mary elizabeth [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► winstead who played John plays out the [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► grown-up Lucy McClane john mccain's [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► daughter and really and more recently [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► was in Scott poker and she's um she's uh [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► what what uh what's-his-name just along [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► as her boyfriend right [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► so in in the night at the beginning not [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► to be i mean no there's no do they do [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► they owe that's right ok but they [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► learned important lessons about each [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► other during the mid 30 * that's what I [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► was gonna say I was gonna comment based [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► on your years you said john tyler start [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► talking about John material directing [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► the first 1i think you know the second [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► one was directed by running hard [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► and we've directed and yet directed [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► highlander that correct and cutthroat [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► island so you know you can see you can [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► see sort of the pedigrees the so what i [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► was getting out earlier before we took [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► those tangents was the influence of this [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► movie in the sense that there were [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► countless movies and TV shows afterward [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► that basically took this plot of put a [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► kid put a hero put a character walk them [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► in a in a difficult situation in an [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► enclosed space and with bad guys and see [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► what happens [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► so Duffy yes there's an attraction for [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► this episode of buffy the vampire slayer [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► called school hard which is what you [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► think they've got locked in the school I [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► think of something completely different [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► when I hear that I know you do [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► see there you go Greg you got in there [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► you guys so to speak so to speak [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► oh this episode is rated r clearly uh [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► there's an episode of Star Trek The Next [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► Generation where Captain Picard and [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► locked on the enterprise all by himself [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► and has to have a house to well it's [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► being cleaned while it's being all [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► evacuated by a depth by the right [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► numbers right it kills everything [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► doesn't your laser goes around don't [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► forget episode that stairwell you climbs [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► up into the front of 10 forward to avoid [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► it right before it turns out i was good [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► i was gonna stay they have to run that [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► like every six months or ten forward [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► starts to smell like a small around that [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► being about it [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► you have no idea what going and keeps [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► the moment she's actually not very good [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► at her job and she's really old I mean [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► yeah it's not good at dr. Crusher's [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► quarters by the way proof that places [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► and some pics back it was sad when data [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► left his cat on board when they were [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► doing this he came back they were able [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► to get the pot was never seen again [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► it's about became a spot on the floor [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► yeah I was gonna say my favorite one of [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► my favorite diehard limoges was in the [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► short-lived series the middleman there's [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► an episode where they get locked in [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► their their headquarters [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► I'm gonna have to crawl through the [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► bread and it's full of impact die hard [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► references including my what a great [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► quote it's like diehard in a building [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► yeah and she crawls through the vents [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► that even does bruce willis impression [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► hey come out to the coast we'll get [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► together have a few laughs yeah good one [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► and then the most and then the [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► the paintball episode of community this [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► is Tom had a and a nice diehard bit [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► frightened of it right and I I think of [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► the the movies that have been made i [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► mean i mentioned speed earlier I think [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► speed is even though it's not quite the [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► same as the the movie i would say it's [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► almost like diehard in the sense that [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► not only was it a good movie but it was [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► kind of a kick into it in its [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► high-concept setup and yet also having a [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► payoff ebert gave die hard 2 stars out [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► of four when it first came out [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► complaining mostly about the broad [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► secondary characters and then he gave [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► speed to cruise control three stars haha [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► wow just goes to show you it's like die [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► hard on his high during the eighties the [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► cruise ship [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► yes we can't slow down to the boat it [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► explodes [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► well they had that there's a scene where [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► the cruise ship is coming at the dock [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► and it's supposed to be very exciting [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► except it looks like it's not moving at [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► all it can look like five miles an hour [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► I just scroll down the wikipedia entry [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► for die-hard and under the see also [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► section the first entry is die hard film [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► series fine [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► the second entry is films considered the [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► greatest ever not even the crib fit [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► greatest Chris what else is on that note [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► I was great I I mean I'm kind of scared [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► to click on that I'm worried that speed [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► to might also be honey is it maybe of [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► their kind of sort of crept off the end [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► of the screen there it is very extensive [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► wait Chris there's a Christmas section [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► oakley success with section that does [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► not have die hard in all geez [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► so since this is a holiday holiday movie [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► themed podcast i before we go I also [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► wanted to ask do you have any other if [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► diehard isn't let's put it in its own [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► category any other favorite Christmas [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► movies things that you watch on a [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► regular basis around the holidays any of [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► you [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► yeah well now yes I psychological drama [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► where Jimmy Stewart goes insane Harvey [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► it's written as the worst frickin life [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► ever and yet we are you that it is [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► wonderful I mean it's sort of one it's [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► it's all happening in his head as he [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► plunges to his death right that's yes [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► yes it's it's the occurrence at Owl [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► Creek Bridge with Clarence angel I will [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► you might my second favorite Christmas [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► movie of all time which is santa claus [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► conquers the martians wow it's drop oh [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► well yeah [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► Tropico and recycling yourself that mr. [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► Dora yeah as a child before before she [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► bought her golden globe [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► yes good knowledge i have idolized and [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► basically a greater 3000 i have I that's [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► the only person worth watching you know [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► at this point it's it's kind of pass a [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► to say Christmas story so I'll skip that [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► but i will say that i have recently [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► added to the list films that i watch [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► fairly regularly at all it is [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► l.o.l if we watch that we broke that out [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► with my kids last week who are 9 and six [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► and they thought it was hilarious and it [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► is a funny movie but the kids the kids [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► loved it too and it stuck with my son [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► because we were actually watching [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► Miracle on thirty-fourth Street which is [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► my wife's favorite holiday film and i [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► really like it a lot and there's a seen [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► a mailroom and my son says this isn't at [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► all like the middle room and else i will [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► say honest-to-goodness miracle third 43 [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► to the original is is probably my other [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► favorite way the original today remake [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► that one too many times for don't know [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► go to the original we actually have the [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► DVD and it offers the color versions yes [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► like a way for you call no letter which [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► is better now that the black my version [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► is superior black-and-white all the way [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► that's fine with that but elf is a great [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► help is a lot of a lot of fun although i [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► can't watch out without thinking that [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► james Kalm you know just needed the [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► money but he's good he's very good at [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► what you needed for imagine [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► yeah yeah it's just it's come to that [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► with james caan but maybe you know it's [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► a good film when the heart you know it's [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► got so much heart that the infernal [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► mugging of the Allies name not going to [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► Michael Daryl Daryl doesn't drive you [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► absolutely up the wall know that that's [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► one of the wind will Ferrell movies [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► where where it's it's a character that [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► it is a perfect fit for him committing [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► to just go all the way with it where [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► we're in other movies are like really [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► will ferrell that one you know buddy the [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► elf really is designed for somebody like [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► will ferrell and then what [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► Stewart is in that movie and there's a [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► lot of fun any other favorite a holiday [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► fare in a charlie brown wars holiday [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► special [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► oh how I i if I could reach you through [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► this look [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► definitely if you get the opportunity to [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► pick up and watch the rifftrax for that [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► it is phenomenal [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► really they're there i don't i don't [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► know like it's still put my put myself [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► through that yeah i was going to take [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► you've gotta like get the dr like [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► bittorrent though I they had it on [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► google video and it's you can find it [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► around that the beauty of it is they [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► actually do the commercials as well say [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► you've got you know these these look for [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► the union label kind of a you know Union [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► song ads that you don't get any more [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► that they back when there were unions of [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► course boy commercials for things that [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► just look unbelievably idiotic and they [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► point that out so it's it's a nice break [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► between be Arthur singing 45-minute [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► songs and Harvey Korman embarrassing [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► himself and and probably about five [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► future generations of Corman's ways [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► performance you remember when the Star [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► Wars Christmas special was the thing [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► that George Lucas had the most to be [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► embarrassed about [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► goodbye although the good old days are [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► you have to about 1998 he still thinks [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► it is that's how you know he's over the [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► edge [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► the doctor who christmas special count [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► yeah sure there are you dr. Kunze dr. [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► whoever you have a favorite I i think i [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► think the in some ways the first david [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► tennant Christmas invasion [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► yeah it's pretty great I just I like the [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► end of it I like that the david tennant [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► sort of you know he says the world and [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► in a pair of pajamas [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► well any also it's it's his defining [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► moment right as at dr is establishing [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► why he is not Christopher Eccleston and [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► he sort of discovering it at the same [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► time I always enjoyed that our second no [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► second chance i'm gonna i'm gonna bring [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► out a charlie brown just because I I [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► thought that the Charlie Brown which we [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► we all probably loved as kids and I can [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► just tell you from my kids that it still [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► works [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► it shocks me that a cartoon from the [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► late sixties would still work on kids [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► but pretty great it works [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► the grinch still works yeah i'm not sure [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► the rank is bass stuff from the [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► seventies still work [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► no with the forever Jim Carrey right [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► action grinches scared my children it [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► put them off movies for at least a year [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► and a half they were terrified scared me [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► what about I what the original Frosty [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► the Snowman [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► Oh God talk about terrifying i come on [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► you do both you and your in the Duchy [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► prosti our lives that we wouldn't lives [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► for a lot no burrows and brutal [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► ya know it's doing it he's the leader [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► and strangely sliding snowman and brutal [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► no I think the frosties / lives wasn't [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► all right now realize a silver and gold [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► and down find out he sings holly jolly [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► Christmas and and silver and gold i have [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► Rudolph he's had two on memories of [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► those and yet when I've seen them since [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► they're terrible wear while the Charlie [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► Brown i had fears would be the same way [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► and it's totally not the Charlie Brown [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► Christmas especially are you dissing the [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► heat miser you know I loved I back when [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► I i only had my memories of I mr. [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► heatmiser i'm mr. Sun I it was awesome [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► and then I saw the year without a santa [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► claus and it's richard it's terrible [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► did you see the utterly terrifying and [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► even more wretched live action one that [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► came out a few years mill good all my [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► god who I really hope that one ever sees [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► the library and oh yeah it was bad thing [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► John Goodman was one of the money mr. [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► food visor [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► yeah I i put a plug in for the original [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► home alone which is actually not a bad [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► movie I've never seen that I'm the only [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► person who was alive during the release [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► of home alone who did never see a home [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► loan is great it's quintessential john [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► hughes and a pretty great movie [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► i I can't speak to the seagulls but you [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► know I think at the end this may be the [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► podcast in which diehard was talked [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► about the league are we I don't know how [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► we got here [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► uh any any closing thoughts about about [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► die hard to to get us back very great i [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► want to tell an anecdote just because [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► the die-hard holds a special place in my [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► life because when it came out [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► I was I had dropped out of school [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► the girl i had dropped out of school for [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► had dumped me I was living with my [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► parents and working at a software etc [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► and the only comfort i had was that I [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► could put a gun in my mouth at any point [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► y and the the local movie theater [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► getting a little dark now it now it is [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► like Christmas and all this like that [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► hard like it's a wonderful life the the [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► the local movie theater at eleven [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► o'clock on tuesdays a buck for any movie [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► they were showing just because it was [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► totally empty and I had nothing else to [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► do and so I would go to the movies on [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► Tuesdays and I walked into die hard not [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► knowing anything about it and I came out [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► of the theater two hours later one of [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► the morning completely jazzed [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► I didn't know what to do with myself I [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► was I was quivering just so excited so [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► amped up and i ended up running up three [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► flights of metal stairs in the mall [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► where the movie theater was and I got to [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► the top of the stairs and I wanted to [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► burst out onto the roof and the door was [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► locked so I turned around and walked [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► back down but I remember that Android [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► metaphor for your whole life i'm just [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► picturing this whole seen Clarence [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► Clarence truth is a die-hard out that I [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► there's something to live for [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► let's play doh it excelled great just as [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► Brittles those pedals and on that note I [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► think we've reached the end of our time [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► here on the incomparable podcast or [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► perhaps we've passed the end circle back [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► around and reached again but in any case [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► I think we're done [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► so I'd like to thank my guests from down [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► in the basement is the back of the [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► limousine next to the bear argyle [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► himself greatness [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► thanks Greg thanks jason from I don't [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► even know from a from an air vent its [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► Steve let's thank Steve their welfare [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► and eating a twinkie down in the parking [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► or in the parking lot outside of [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► Nakatomi Plaza at stanmore and get BK my [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► friends haha [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► until next time this is jason still for [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► the incompetent podcast [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► happy new year happy holidays and we [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► will see you in 20 left [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► this happened the incomparable podcast [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► is it essentially in comfortable dot-com [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► I [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► or not but that it put that at the end [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► of the after you do all the outro music [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► or not or will we got all the [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► cliffhanger [TS]