The Incomparable

00:00:07 ◼   ► the incomparable podcast episode 64 [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► December 2010 [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► we're back on the incomparable podcast [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► I'm Jason Snell I'm apparently the host [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► of the podcast I viewed myself as one of [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► the cast of characters until then more [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► and referred to me as the host and him [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► is the guest host last time so all right [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► this week i'm the host of the podcast [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► until then more and opposes me and and [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► disposes of my body so I would like to [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► welcome the most dire the parasites [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► oh nice that's a nice metaphor that [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► Voice you heard is one of my guests [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► today because as the host I have guessed [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► Greg NOS who who has suddenly become a [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► regular fixture in this podcast [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► well yeah boy it's good to hear from you [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► Greg not that good though and also on [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► the line is John siracusa hey John [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► welcome back Jason I just hope you don't [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► let this hosting thing go to your head [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► yeah i had with power seriously well you [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► know I had a big deal more into host the [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► video game podcast mostly because i was [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► busy with the nanowrimo you know writing [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► a novel for the month and also because i [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► felt like i was a complete amateur when [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► it came to to video games out after [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► having heard the podcast I felt like [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► that stop yeah i really could have done [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► and you made a good point that I was a [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► total amateur when it came to horror [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► movies but I still hosted that podcast [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► that was largely because i couldn't get [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► very many people to be on it because all [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► of our podcast participants are wimps [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► and don't like we're moving so including [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► myself so I was stuck I was like a [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► seat-filler that any way across the [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► table for me here in San Francisco is [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► serenity Caldwell [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► hello welcome hello from across the [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► internet dan moore and joins us to hide [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► an hi Jason thanks for having me [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► so as we as we move toward the toward [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► the Christmas holiday we're in the [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► holiday season now Hanukkah has past [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► Christmases forthcoming the new year [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► that's how it works by the way if you [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► weren't aware the December there are [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► series of holidays some of which are [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► more real and summer kind of totally [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► made up getting the ones are made of [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► politics was my birthday which is your [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► birthday ass when is your birthday [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► birthday is on the fourteenth you'll be [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► 14 right [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► oh yes come on 15 sorry she said ok [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► blaring it really cure that I come out [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► really after the harry potter [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► fanfiction thing there's nowhere to go [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► but up no it's true i can just mock you [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► all for making fun of me yes please do [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► mockery we're no strangers to mockery in [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► Our Lives speaking of our childhood so I [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► want to talk about the holidays and [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► where I wanted to start really was with [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► with the holiday presents Christmas [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► presence i certainly have memories of [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► getting all sorts of gifts and also if [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► not getting gifts that I really [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► desperately wanted when I was a kid and [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► I i imagine that the people who [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► participate in this podcast would all [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► have memories of kind of a gift that in [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► hindsight were a little bit on the geeky [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► side that they that they received her or [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► even failed to receive so I thought I [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► would start there which is what what [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► geeky holiday gifts do you remember from [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► your from your childhood Greg nice i [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► hear you have a fantastic story to tell [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► tonight you're not been up to me you [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► just pointed to the left field bleachers [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► and i'm going to bunt [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► huh when I was a young and so I eighteen [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► fifties you may have been where you may [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► you may have guessed that I enjoyed [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► video games quite a bit and it was in in [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► October 1977 atari released the 2600 and [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► it was the hottest thing going and i [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► believe it was a year later I played the [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► friends I died you know it broken [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► several of the joysticks played combat [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► and adventure and all the great games [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► from the first year and I desperately [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► wanted one just because I knew that [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► that's what was going to be my entire [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► life was that single piece of hardware [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► and so roundabout November 1978 i began [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► a campaign of of desperately begging my [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► parents for it i don't remember how much [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► it was but it seemed like an infinite [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► amount of money but I said I want [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► nothing else I want nothing else for the [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► rest of the year my birthday is a month [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► later I don't know anything for that I [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► just want 2600 and and whatever [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► cartridges it came with and we'll worry [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► about other games later i can swap them [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► with friends and come Christmas Eve [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► there was a box that appeared under the [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► tree and it was exactly the right shape [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► and it was exactly the right size for [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► the 2600 and so before the word squee [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► was invented i actually went ahead and [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► squeeze need [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► we didn't have term a term for it back [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► then and I I had visions of sugarplums [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► dancing in my head and they were all [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► playing 2600 games and so I went to bed [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► in the next morning I woke up and I was [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► an activation game wasn't sugarplums was [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► evidently you were had sugar plums [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► thrown at you and they exploded [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► something like no low-resolution [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► explosions and do [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► yeah we had a very orderly christmas at [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► my house and we would take turns and one [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► person would get a gift and another [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► person would get a gift and another [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► person would get a gift and and digital [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► I nap hehe yes it was like Christmas in [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► east germany is sort of like a cafeteria [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► for presence [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► everything is just a stale bread and a [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► small piece of ham and finally it rolled [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► around to the last gift for me and what [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► i thought was the last gift for me and [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► so my mother goes over and picks up the [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► box from the back of the tree and she [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► carries it over to me and she puts it [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► into my hands and says Greg this is for [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► you to give to your sister [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► oh i thought well okay fine fine [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► they're making it hers I have no problem [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► with that i will get to play it it's in [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► the house everybody shares because we're [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► in the People's Republic of East Germany [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► and it is a socialist paradise and so I [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► handed her and she opens it up and it's [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► a pair of roller skates and you can [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► actually still here out in the deepness [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► of space my heart breaking [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► you couldn't tell the difference between [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► an atari 2600 and a pair of roller [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► skates what was the lightweight i was i [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► with the right away that's way too heavy [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► for 2600 I didn't know how much they [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► weigh to be reminded you did not hold [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► your present deduction skills as a child [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► I can see that they only had they had [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► its ears you know you could go and used [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► to play that series the series edition [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► of the 2600 but it was bolted down so i [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► couldn't pick it up and anyway that it I [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► I was I was it was the cruelest thing my [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► parents have ever done to me and to this [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► day I think they think it's funny and so [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► I went through the next year all of 1979 [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► desperate to get 2600 and then I got it [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► that year for Christmas before Christmas [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► yes one year later so you have an entire [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► year [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► where you're like your sisters roller [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► skates and cursing that they didn't play [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► combat the fire still burned your [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► parents know that you felt this way up [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► until that point or only I think they [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► felt I think they felt a little bad they [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► knew they were screwing with me but i [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► think they felt bad though [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► oh I doubt they still considered as [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► funny as and I think that's really [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► formed my parenting philosophy today it [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► is mocking derived and and torture your [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► children as much as possible do give [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► your kids a presence that are carefully [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► weighted to pose as other presidents i [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► make my kids by their own expensive [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► electronics [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► alright I spirit will they learn the [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► value of things then yes because and [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► they made my two eldest children just [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► bought themselves ipod touches the [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► fourth generation and we had a little [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► talk beforehand that they if they drop [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► them and broke them that was on them and [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► they went ahead and did it anyway so our [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► database timing around the house now [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► like so hey look at this cool thing i [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► found into the couch [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► yes and they play spy games with all [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► that someone will sneak into a room and [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► start surveilling someone else and [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► facetiming it going back to home base [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► what I was often get them ready for [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► their futures adults and 21st century [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► america i bet i just recently got back [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► from a business trip and i facetimed [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► with my children it was it was really [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► quite wonderful for the first 30 seconds [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► when they had something to say and then [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► they would get bored with me like in [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► person and wonder what they just like [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► lace half the ipod walk away if they [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► would start going they would go back to [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► watching TV or you no good having a [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► conversation with somebody else in the [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► room so did your parents were they [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► I in the video game podcast i think john [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► said that his parents were fundamentally [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► opposed to video games in the house [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► where your parents opposed to it or did [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► they just not want to get it or thought [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► it was too expensive i think it fell on [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► the this is a fad side [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► mmm i mean i had only really been hard [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► guide my first contact with computers [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► was going over to a friend's house who [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► had an apple to not an apple to plus but [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► an apple to and sitting there and [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► playing games for hours and hours and [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► hours and and that was to my memory [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► right before I started asking for the [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► 2600 and it built from there and I [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► thought you know so I was rabbit a few [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► months later when November rolled around [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► I started asking for this and they saw [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► that the price was like 200 [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► dollars in late seventies dollars which [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► is what thirty forty thousand dollars [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► today roughly and good math there but [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► when i had when i had fixated on this [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► thing for a full year that I think they [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► thought that I had I had earned it just [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► through my own desperation I and [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► coincidentally that's how i got married [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► as well [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► the power of desperation he seemed he [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► seems like an easy bet it the ROI on the [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► 2600 given that that it has shaped the [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► past 30 or so years and has been the [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► foundation of my career and I everything [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► that I have quoted received unquote [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► since then it was a pretty good [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► investment [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► yeah also I mean my dad didn't want us [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► to get one because you thought it would [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► break the TV i'm not going but I'm still [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► not clear on what he thought that what [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► you like it releases demon spirits into [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► the team you can no longer do anything [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► else would would brew the tea would be [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► confused that I'm not made for this [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► crazy video game stuff i made for live [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► action would break weather usually [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► beaverton dangers you could run a game [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► for too long with the static screens on [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► the 2600 nearly video i really doubt [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► that he was concerned about burn-in but [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► but he didn't think it would break the [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► TV and of course in those days you [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► didn't even have like a coaxial cable we [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► had like the little twin lead thing that [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► you to unscrew and then put in the [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► adapter that really our effort every [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► slide and then it would go to come on i [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► can't remember how old I was when when [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► we got an Atari but it was probably in [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► that it was probably like 80 or 79 or [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► something like that that's about right [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► so did you have a camera or is your dad [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► afraid it was still your spirit haha [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► good question and I don't know the [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► answer it didn't [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► yes but I let it out later delivery [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► you mentioned breaking atari joystick by [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► the way and this isn't a video game [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► podcast but still I i remember breaking [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► an atari joystick and desperately trying [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► to figure out how to fix it when you [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► opened it up right yeah white plastic [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► ring oh the white plastic ring yeah that [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► had snapped and you try and glue it back [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► together and you screw it back together [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► and it lasts for another 30 seconds and [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► it breaks again right and then you just [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► try to play the game knowing that if you [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► go with the top laughs wrestle her it'll [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► it'll sag and it might [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► work but it's not or you take it off [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► entirely and you've got those little [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► metal buttons the little metal buttons [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► and you just try to fake it with the [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► little buttons which does also doesn't [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► work a little membrane buttons [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► good times good that's I tried [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► everything I could to fix the joysticks [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► I i actually got out matches and tried [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► to melt the plastic wow yeah which the [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► fumes probably affected me just as much [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► as the video games kid [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► well they really didn't have a strong [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► roi then another lie that explains a lot [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► look at the colors so pretty and also [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► taught you about advertising on [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► television where you saw that crazy [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► commercial that would run with a guy and [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► the the hardhat stick into the IBM and [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► you like dammit that crazy-looking [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► definitely makes the story controller [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► you try yourself and you see that [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► sometimes sometimes things on TV don't [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► tell the truth speaking of Christmas [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► present there was a whole secondary [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► market for heavy-duty joysticks for the [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► 2600 I mean you can get joysticks that [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► weighed three or four pounds and had [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► arcade sighs buttons on them [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► Wow is that like the same market as the [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► the keyboards that make the really loud [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► noises that people people will be allies [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► now you're making fun of me because I [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► want one of those this year [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► oh really is that on your holiday list [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► for this year the they're like seventy [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► dollars the aftermarket clones of the [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► old IBM right huge keyboards that rich [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► single from barebone software has one of [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► those i believe i had i have no one to [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► twenty years ago at my first real [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► corporate job and you could hear me like [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► down the hall and around the corner [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► well I friends who love that keyboard or [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► the the athletic equipment and I say is [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► on my desk captn well at what I say to [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► them is I work in an office with people [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► I can't use that chief heard that humans [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► would come and kill me if i use that [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► they beat me to death with the keyboard [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► keyboard that you have to do that they [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► are ya [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► you added serious tapping and you just a [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► little self for trouble locking [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► clackety-clack I was watching you love [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► it is the tactile sensation of actually [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► pushing something down then clicks and [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► forces your finger back up because the [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► spring is so strong so that's what you [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► want it that's what i want for christmas [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► i want that an amazon gift cards lots of [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► amazon gift guides with which you can [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► buy more keyboards hot that's just after [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► SEIU's anymore is is is free money to [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► Amazon will dump the change in the house [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► and you take him to like coinstar and [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► you can either get cash [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► back at nine percent interest rate or p [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► or you can get free Amazon gift card [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► right right or itunes i think yeah I've [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► done that [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► hey that's fine i spent a lot of money [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► on amazon and itunes so that works then [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► what about you [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► you got a LG a particularly fund holiday [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► gift memory and Treadwell on the on the [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► theme of parents tricking children there [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► are there have been a couple because my [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► birthday is so close to christmas i [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► never ran into the problem where you [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► either got big birthday present or big [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► Christmas present and then one or two of [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► the holidays just kind of flopped [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► together [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► I was always able to kind of get like [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► separate little presence but I use it to [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► my advantage a lot to combine big-ticket [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► items that i knew i wanted that I knew I [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► couldn't get away with just to go to [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► Christmas and I think not the original [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► ipod cuz i got the original ipod i think [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► in I mean maybe early December but the [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► ipod photo when that came out I remember [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► being like all right you know it has a [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► color screen and if you do a little bit [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► of hacking to it you can actually maybe [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► make it play videos and oh it's so cool [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► and so I went around pastoring my father [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► for at least two or three months being [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► like yes please please please buy this [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► for me i know i I'm my original five [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► gigs just too small and too bulky and [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► what if someone at school steals it and [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► this one smaller I get made up all sorts [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► of different reasons and then I'd is [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► more valuable so nobody will steal [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► exactly sure let's let's go with that [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► but I didn't get it for my birthday so I [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► was like okay so they're probably [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► waiting for it for christmas which they [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► wish they did in the past I that's how i [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► got my first imac well I'm since my [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► friend in these stories after the [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► terrible things parents to their [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► children ok go ahead without so [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► Christmas morning rolls around they're [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► always runs a different things and I [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► like I knew exactly what the ipod photo [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► packaging looks like as I'd you know i [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► cased out the store and I was just like [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► all right fingers crossed and there was [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► no Ricky there was no square box under [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► under the tree they're just there a [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► couple of like big macy's boxes and [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► things like that so our last yet know [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► the last the last box is a big macy's [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► box and I'm like damn it i got a coat or [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► a you know like a hat or something [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► that's when I wasn't nearly as obsessed [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► about coats i was more blessed [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► or hats yeah it was more about [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► technology so I pick up the macy's box [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► and I open it and inside is a laptop box [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► and I'm like wait what I open i open the [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► laptop box and there's another box and I [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► opened that box there's another box I [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► open inside his Russian nesting dolls [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► pretty much inside for a human head [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► yeah inside of the ipod photo packaging [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► and I was like holy crap they got me an [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► iPod photo and I like I freaked out and [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► I you know open the packaging is as [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► delicately as I could because i still [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► like the packaging and open up the thing [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► and there's no ipod in the iphone whole [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► package it's a code it's just look at [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► socks [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► it's nothing and I got the ipod photo [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► marks they got a GI products [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► yeah you can put your old ipod in here [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► and pretend yes and so I i look at my [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► father who is this very devilish the [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► evil grin on his face and he's like well [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► you know I I I wanted to see if it was [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► just as good as you said it was and he [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► pulls it out of his pocket and he's been [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► playing with it for the last two hours [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► unbeknownst to me while we're opening [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► presence so he unwrapped the thing [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► rewrapped it without the item and had [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► the entire hit in his pocket the entire [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► time and so then he put it back in the [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► box and handed to you and said give this [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► to your sister [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► yeah i think i might have that is my [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► father has it has a long history of [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► doing that when I got my first guitar [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► there was a scavenger hunt in 14 parts [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► which which led to the trunk of his car [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► which sounds like actually there isn't [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► it was the body that goes with the head [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► that was not exactly in the nesting doll [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► back anytime buddy Adam my my dad likes [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► likes playing tricks and but that's yeah [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► lots lots of evil parenting stories on [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► the podcast today that's that is crazy [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► my parents never did I think anything [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► like that my uncle once brought me a box [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► that was enormous and it had eight boxes [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► inside with padding in [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► in the end what it was was a two-headed [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► nickel [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► yeah yeah and where two bodies in his [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► trunk yeah after he put a matter yeah [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► John what about you and remember bola [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► memorable stories from holidays gone by [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► I like that [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► start by thanking ran for making us all [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► feel old again because her childhood [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► story was about the i-pod photo class [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► that was like last year wasn't i was [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► added I was 15 I was at that apple event [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► with the with Bono and the edge of the [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► at the california theatre in san jose [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► when they rolled that thing out [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► oh I was just I was just looking at the [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► opening of the apple store today in two [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► thousand yeah everyone and I'm like hey [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► I went to I went to the glendale store [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► opening and then Dan more and says yeah [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► you were like 13 weren't you [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► and then I said no comment yeah our own [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► been boy jack will cover that event for [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► macworld I remember him him making [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► comments about the people in line [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► actually I'm a little afraid that [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► doesn't sound like Bennett no not at all [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► not at all okay so John yes the rest of [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► us we've established that the rest of us [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► are old i think we've established and [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► i'm almost every week but no one noticed [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► it wasn't for her because we all have [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► similar memories and I know follow that [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► it's like ran just play along and say [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► that you love in the macro carry out [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► your Atari your nintendo gameboy what's [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► that with Oh pawn your original pong [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► game i did get it a powerbook duo for [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► Christmas one year so i can i can talk [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► about my old Mac stuff [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► hand me downs but I can talk about them [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► like their new alright sure it's not [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► it's not working [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► John what about you practicing whatever [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► is back longer deeper into time yeah [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► well I've got two things one of them is [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► not really geeky but i have to throw it [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► out there and the other one is geeky so [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► the non-key one is to quote a christmas [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► story is the greatest Christmas gift [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► I've ever received or ever would receive [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► in contrast to all these parents who are [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► cruel and torture their children this is [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► the reverse type of story so when I was [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► about ten i wanted a bike for Christmas [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► but I didn't just want a regular bike i [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► was already corning my [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► taste for extremely expensive things and [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► I wanted a specific bike which was [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► nineteen eighty-four mongoose [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► Californian which I think was like two [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► hundred fifty dollars in nineteen [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► eighties money i don't know how much was [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► but since I was 10 years old it's just [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► an astronomical amount of money and I [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► remember I asked for it because i had [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► seen someone in the neighborhood had one [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► and I didn't expect to get it and spend [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► time begging I didn't you know I do all [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► the things that I would later do to [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► ensure that i got expensive presence and [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► I we went through the whole Christmas [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► morning and I didn't get it and then at [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► the end of Christmas morning they took [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► me out to the porch and there was the [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► bike and I still have the bike and it's [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► still in my basement and even though [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► it's not a gift to talk about it in a [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► literal mileage for a gift i rode that [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► bike for when i was ten years old until [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► practically I had no license to drive a [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► car and it went like six weeks just [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► about [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► I'm not New York you know when you're [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► seventeen seventy years is a long time [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► my formative years were spent on that on [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► the hard plastic seat of that bicycle [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► what kind of city was it was like a [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► banana seat or not we don't want to [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► start with your x-bike a mongoose you [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► know it's got the that ridiculously [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► uncomfortable hard plastic seat for [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► racing because it was lightweight but it [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► definitely gave me a taste for expensive [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► things because it was very different [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► from like that you know happy that you [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► would get down at toys r us or whatever [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► this was like a serious bike with ball [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► bearings and everything but you do drive [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► some crazy expensive car now i would if [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► i had the money feel free if anyone [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► would like me to drive you crazy [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► expensive color on those animals and [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► links on the podcast and instead of [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► driving a crazy expensive the car I i [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► read car magazines and I read about [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► crazy expensive cars not which I [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► actually own it so my second gift is [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► Giggy and this is long after the phase [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► when I had shifted into high gear in [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► terms of doing whatever it took to get [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► the increasingly expensive gifts that I [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► wanted and I like ran my birthday's in [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► december so I always pulled the [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► combination birthday Christmas thing to [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► get presence there were financially you [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► know unfeasible otherwise the way to go [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► it's like it's like something you'd see [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► on Wall Street where it's like well now [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► if we take a coupon from the birthday [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► and then we apply that to the Christmas [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► ya know [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► is it was there was a hard hard sell and [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► this is a special trip computer [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► equipment i was I always had my heart [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► set on computer equipment so i have like [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► months ahead of time i have the catalog [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► that have you know Mac user magazine [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► maybe with an article by old man Jason [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► Snelling it they would open up the net [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► connection page that was in the [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► beginning the seven page spread from [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► that connection remember that yeah [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► what's wrong with the headset she was my [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► warehouse not reason haha i bet on those [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► aster yeah so at any rate i would add [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► the the catalogs that would come in the [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► mail I would circle the stuff i would [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► find the best price you know and i would [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► say this is what I want and I know it's [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► a lot of money and the other thing I [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► would pull is that i would say look I [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► know this is really expensive but I got [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► Christmas I've got my birthday and i'll [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► pay for some portion of it with my own [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► money so i will also be saving my money [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► all year long to add to the giant pool [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► of money to pay for this thing [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► wow what the the what was this amazing [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► thing that I wanted for 450 dollars [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► again and you know 1986-87 mind just an [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► astronomical amount for an individual [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► person for a present under the tree like [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► a hard drive with an 800 k floppy drive [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► external hard drive for my mac plus and [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► you know why that was that was such a [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► significant gift because you wouldn't [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► have to swap discs you understand you [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► can put your OS disk in onedrive and [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► your applications the other drive and it [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► was like you had doubled the room to put [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► forget about hard drives are [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► entertaining fantasy part i have a mac [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► plus with one floppy drive that was 800 [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► k which was you know twice as big as [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► foreigners are pretty good but man if [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► I'd to 800 k discs i would just put two [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► discs in there and I would never need [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► anything else in my entire life so I i [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► burned through huge amount of goodwill [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► and nagging at the end of the time i got [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► a you know 800k floppy this drive for [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► 400 and something dollars and that was [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► probably the best gift I ever possibly [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► got that look back and I'm like oh how [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► could I have been so excited about a [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► floppy drive but I was man i was excited [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► more excited when I was in my hard drive [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► soon so upgrading from a cat cassette [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► tape to a disk drive changed my life [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► yeah but this isn't afraid it's very [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► very sad isn't it [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► when I think like what you can get for [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► 450 dollars you know get an entire ipod [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► touch that has more computing power and [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► storage than 70 Mac plus this pilot heap [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► can get two of them being the John so [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► while I'm I your story amazes and [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► confuses me [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► did you did you end up having to kick in [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► money of your own [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► oh yeah I kicked in over a hundred [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► dollars to get towards that presents a [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► serious and potentially cash value with [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► your parents [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► well i would say look here's here's the [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► best price i could find for it and you [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► know here is like the relative cost of [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► the gifts you getting for the other [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► children in the family [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► he's on an offset that yeah because he [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► couldn't be like I'm not gonna get you [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► you know well we know your sister wants [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► this and your brother wants that and you [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► want some 450 dollar computer thing that [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► I didn't understand the stuff they're [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► like we don't know what this is [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► we don't know why cost 450 dollars [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► what's wrong with the computer that we [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► have it already cost the Brazilians was [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► a presentation with like poster boards [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► on a tripod teachers look it was a cam [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► sister to talk up like to ask for [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► something really expensive because i [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► needed on top here that's not how it [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► worked and then they would do anything [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► to make sure that i didn't get this [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► because they thought they thought it was [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► done to me try explaining in any [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► eighties of floppy drive to anyone in [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► your family doesn't know anything about [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► computers connected already has a floppy [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► drive John what exactly one and that [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► computer costs like 25 hundred dollars [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► like astronomically expensive [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► twenty-five hundred dollars in a tease [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► money like we already bought this [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► expensive computer for the family [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► quote-unquote and i spent you know all [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► my time on it no one else was allowed to [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► touch it in or do they understand it but [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► now I want anything else eighties money [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► had a picture of rick astley on it was a [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► tease money like i had Michael J Fox on [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► it intensely is actually well rick [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► astley was on the two but Michael J Fox [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► was on the 50 [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► it's just it's funny because I did [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► something very very similar and on top [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► of that it's funny because my dad and I [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► were the two big technology geeks in the [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► family [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► his birthdays the day after mine so [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► sometimes like when my dad got the wall [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► street i remember he was basically [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► pestering my mother [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► unlike all right let's let's uh let's I [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► know this is a lot of money but let's [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► put it aside so I can buy this wall [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► street powerbook g3 because it's really [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► awesome and it's an upgrade from the duo [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► and I'm like okay I can get the duo if I [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► can pester mom to help you get the wall [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► street so it became kind of like a joint [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► tag-team effort and very very silly [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► things but totally with the with the [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► poster boards and the spreadsheets and [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► bargaining with the siblings always [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► happened every year [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► Wow ourselves a mercenary time in my [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► life definitely well I mean you gotta do [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► what you gotta do I'm just impressed [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► with your with your attention to detail [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► or something like that so we're talking [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► about a presence that we got our or [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► apparently negotiated or horrible things [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► our parents did to us to mock us and not [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► give us presents those are the various [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► topics that we've got on the podcast [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► Diane Warren what about you do you have [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► a particularly for horrifying or [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► gratifying story i have two stories that [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► I thought of my head one which was and [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► this is kind of indistinct because from [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► when i was younger i remember getting [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► some sort of transformer when I was [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► probably i don't know seven or something [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► seven or eight and i remember i have [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► very big memories all I remember is that [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► it turned into a car and it's like the [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► Micronauts right [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► transformers yeah i can just look under [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► before before Michael Bay decided to [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► just didn't you know desecrate my entire [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► childhood so we were having this and I [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► remember being in my uncle's place in [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► upstate New York where we spend [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► Christmas and I was like I'm so psyched [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► about this and i was driving it all [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► around the floors and everything and I [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► just thought this was the coolest thing [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► ever [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► and then on the way home we got a we got [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► a flat tire on the drive back to Boston [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► and it was dark it was right raining or [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► snowing or something we hammer we pulled [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► over understand this bridge and somehow [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► for some reason and i'm still unclear [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► how and why this happens in my memory [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► that the it got left behind at the place [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► we pulled over on the road and so I [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► never saw you like we're carrying around [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► and thought I think I must have been so [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► yeah anyways I don't even know why I got [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► out of my car frankly at that point but [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► I don't have a transformer and it's [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► raining outside and it turns into a car [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► and you're stopped on the side of the [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► road I mean but I mean we're talking [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► like like you know six seven o'clock at [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► night it's just pitch black outside to [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► like run around you know the mass pike [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► or something so it's not like the kind [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► of place you're going to get out and [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► play on the side of the road but anyway [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► repressed memory in there i think yeah [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► exactly what i would actually happen we [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► could do a whole movie out of this but I [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► mean I remember just being crushed is [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► the thing like I mean not physically [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► obviously but I I just remember being so [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► sad about this and you know wanting to [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► go back and look for it and and [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► well there's no you know we can't go [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► back there is no way to go back there [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► and then I was just I was just you know [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► inconsolable for four years afterwards [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► so I can't really remember what I got [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► for most of the rest of my childhood as [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► christmas brother sister should focus on [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► your transformer I was so focused that [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► lost it but i will say that the other [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► the other present that I got which was [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► later in my life this is you know after [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► this is like my junior year of college [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► was I you know I did the Christmas [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► morning with my parents and you know [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► that my mother put some stuff in the [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► stocking like normally awesome candy and [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► things like that and then headed soul [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► like little small Q boxes like few [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► inches by a few inches i assume you know [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► maybe she got me like a mug or something [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► and I opened it up and it was an [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► original ipod in the year that the [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► original ipod came out and this was a [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► total under surprised me i hadn't asked [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► for one [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► i mean like i had mentioned it to them [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► like because I remember this was the [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► year how's Marilyn yeah so it came out [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► like october and I was thinking actually [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► didn't didn't come out until now it was [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► announced it was now see in October [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► because i remember being in the library [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► at school when I when they announced it [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► yeah and I remember being in a room with [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► Steve genuine oh yeah I don't read that [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► in Jason yeah well anyway so we rubbed [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► it was a it was i I you know I think a [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► lot of times when I was a kid my parents [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► would ask me what i want for christmas [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► or I tell them you know I want this toy [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► or whatever and so there wasn't always a [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► lot it was like nice but that wasn't [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► always a lot of surprise to it right [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► this is probably the only gift i think [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► i've gotten ever in which I was really [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► just like shocked like speechless [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► because i could not believe because it [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► was so expensive for one thing like at [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► that point is like 500 bucks right [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► that's like I couldn't believe that they [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► would buy this for me you know [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► especially because it's like a luxury [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► thing and I just was sort of it totally [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► taken aback and but they totally right [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► there like odeon would love this [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► yeah absolutely nail like I was so [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► excited like I remember taking it home [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► like on the drive back to home in my own [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► car they were driving separately i try [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► plugged it in and it actually like [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► crashed place the look within the first [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► like five minutes of using it [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► I was like oh my god it's broken this is [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► terrible that's the worst thing ever so [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► I like pulled over into a gas station [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► and I might put up a meet back when they [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► still came with manuals like pulling out [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► the manual like flipping through like [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► there must be something I can do and I [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► finally figured out that you could like [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► restarted by holding down the menu [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► button in the center button and then it [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► came back up and I used it the rest of [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► the ride home and I was just like this [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► is this is the coolest thing ever and i [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► was i was so excited you're rich ipods [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► came with pre played like a playlist [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► right well that was I to know came with [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► the one that they I think the ones they [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► gave out if they're the ones yeah they [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► discussed once museum don't mind I have [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► my University's i have my laptop there [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► so i also had like like loaded up all my [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► stuff from my old powerbook g3 onto it [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► but it was just I was just blown away [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► with how cool this was like I can pick [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► whatever song I want to listen to i [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► didn't have to trade my cds and work [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► with all those burn cds i had made and [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► man it was just it was probably about [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► the coolest gift I've ever gotten so [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► basically any more interference win at [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► the end of that story and be that you [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► left it on the side of the road you try [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► again [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► oh my god i would have I just would have [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► not gone home and welcome no he would [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► have gotten off the mass pike and [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► doubled back and then going on that you [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► know that if you can't tell ya how are [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► ya yeah I mean I wait you're seven they [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► don't leave your I've that would be [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► unfortunate maybe we're chasing [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► girlfriend harm another a tractor at 7i [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► no no I didn't drive the tractor at [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► seven tractor who wants to drive the [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► tractor i drove the tractor it seven it [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► is fun to have we i drove the lawn mower [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► is a euphemism [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► yeah that's cause this code for [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► something that we had about my barn and [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► drove the tractor actually what I what I [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► because I pretty much drove the tractor [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► through my entire childhood I really [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► wish [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► here now because he could go off on that [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► and that would be that would be [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► enjoyable process i'm glad he's not here [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► because he would take that far too [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► extreme and on with it and run with it [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► into the born with the tractor dan it's [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► funny when you talk about not knowing [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► how that transformer got lost we my wife [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► is Jewish so we do Hanukkah and [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► Christmas and my son just got a kirby [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► speaking of video games again he got a [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► stuffed Kirby which he specifically [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► asked for [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► I think just in a litany of things that [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► he thought were great and then we got [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► him one he couldn't he was beside [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► himself it was the greatest present ever [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► cause it's like these exist and i have [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► one [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► how is that possible how are they [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► listening to me yes we were listening to [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► you son i but he takes that he took that [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► everyone to school they're not allowed [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► school stuffed animals can be at school [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► unless they just stay in your bag when [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► they're at school but he wanted to do [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► that thing has not left his side other [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► than going to school since we got it for [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► him and that's what I thought when you [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► talk about the Transformers like it's so [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► awesome you might not even realize that [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► you just got the death grip on it [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► what about the death grip because then [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► you can let it go and leave it by the [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► side of the road but you know just to [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► take it with you everywhere cause it's [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► so cool you didn't love the transformer [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► and I try there was the most i add slip [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► out of your hands [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► I'm thinking of a toy story montage [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► where a single tears rolling down the [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► Transformers cheap as you pull by this [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► as you know in toy story they just [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► turned into a car and drive away to the [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► yeah very small car [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► yeah very loving Autobots said if you [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► know it's it's funny because you [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► mentioned the the doing doing Hanukkah [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► and up my dad's Jewish my mother's loops [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► my mother celebrates Christmas and so I [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► had the same sort of like bargaining [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► thing with like well maybe I can get [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► this for hanukkah but maybe I can get [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► this for Christmas and I just suddenly [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► remembered when thinking about that I [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► wanted like because I would try to pole [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► I know John was talking about the [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► pulling the like the Christmas and [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► birthday present combined i would i [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► would try to pull the Hanukkah and [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► Christmas present combined like always [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► just getting this one thing and like you [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► don't need to get me any other Hanukkah [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► or Christmas presents and I remember [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► that the one thing that I wanted at one [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► point was a the castle from Ultron there [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► is this like place at Castle white white [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► Castle I just looked it up online [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► because I was like I had a memory of it [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► and looked it up like that is exactly [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► what it was like [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► except it looks much now i look at it [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► and go it looks really lame daddy crappy [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► toy I remember that but it looked [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► awesome at the time but you know I was [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► awesome was that were the metal diecast [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► of Ultron line yeah we important that [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► you get in the flea market I still have [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► those somewhere i had was drastic i have [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► the entire plastic Voltron as the [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► american one that's not yeah not as good [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► not as good but it's in pretty good [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► shape i think it's missing like one wing [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► or something [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► that's a bad thing about the diecast [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► metal ones they were delicate and broke [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► really easily [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► I remember my friend had one of those [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► couldn't you argue that that by saying [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► just don't give me any presents except [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► this one thing you're basically saying [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► hey cancel Hanukkah roll it all up in [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► Christmas well he's getting a double is [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► like hey I've got two different you know [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► all that is is not double the amount now [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► there's a time I mean as anyone relevant [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► as ever celebrate Hanukkah as a child [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► knows there's a time that you try to [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► string it out and get a present for [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► every day for all eight days and like [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► each day and like it's you know maybe I [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► think I might have pulled up once with [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► my parents gave me like a small thing [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► everyday but ok i'm also never have [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► always been spoiling our children [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► because we actually gave him something [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► everyday [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► nobody to love and you can just skip my [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► ass you know isn't Monica doesn't have [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► to look back at the biblical record and [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► you can see the macro phoenix at the [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► mcafee skip tonight I don't think so [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► maybe I didn't know they were there like [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► pineapple work so they were just about [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► to be slaughtered I don't know the kirby [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► stuffed animals figured Kurt Kirby [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► passed over the firstborn and I don't [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► know again I don't really know the [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► people very well you put the blood of [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► kirby on your friend haha wow it is [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► turning to the horror podcast all the [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► info from the video game podcast for the [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► horrifying car that's religion and I was [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► a fine line sometimes so so when I was [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► when I was a kid I I as Greg alluded to [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► earlier micronauts were my favorite toys [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► and my the one the big present to [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► mention this because i know it comes up [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► every now and then the the rocket tubes [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► I don't know if anybody remembers rocket [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► tubes what rocket tubes was it wasn't [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► even my crops for those figures rocket [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► tubes wasn't even like that it was like [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► they found a toy and said hey that's a [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► good idea let's make that a micronauts [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► toy and it was a bunch of plastic tubes [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► that you snap together and there was a [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► base this plastic base you plug in and [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► it basically had a fan inside of it so [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► you'd stick the tubes onto the base and [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► then and it was like almost like a [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► racetrack except it was a a tube of and [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► it had this little like capsule that was [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► a basically a plastic oval that fit of [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► micro not in it you could stick a micro [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► not inside and then you dropped it in [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► the tube and turn on the fan and it [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► created air [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► pressure inside the tube and it would [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► shoot the guy around like it was a [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► racecar except it was all air pressure [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► in this pneumatic tube [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► maybe they had like leftover pneumatic [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► tubes from them 15 like what the hell we [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► gonna do with pneumatic tube technology [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► nobody was that Hawaii thataway I [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► diecast plastic toy brilliant [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► let's play nineteen seventies [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► drive-through banking window so that [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► exactly what was the 70 so they just [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► listening party from flow bees maybe it [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► was just called banking window then Greg [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► because it was the seventies and and so [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► but the cool thing about it was that it [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► had two modes it had the mode where you [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► it was like a racetrack and you could [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► like shoot you you flip the switch and [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► the air would we go from being diverted [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► to being pumped into the tube in it and [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► the thing would shoot around and that [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► was kinda cool but it got boring but the [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► other thing you could do is it had a the [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► the place where you diverted it was on [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► top and it was also that same size kind [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► of plastic ring so you could take the [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► straight pieces and pop them on the top [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► and stick the guy down in and then flip [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► the switch and shoot the guy out with [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► air pad apparent fly across the room and [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► basically what happens when he reaches [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► the end of the track because it can't be [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► a certain way to pumping air pretty it [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► is it was a circle it was a circle i [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► think that was just-- and like a side [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► vent yapping yeah exactly [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► ok so it would go around it was slow [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► down and speed up and it would and you [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► know it was it was I think back down its [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► like none of the things that i liked [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► about the actual toys were in this [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► product and yet man that TV commercial [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► was awesome are the TV commercials [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► always the best part like you watch [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► those who like this thing looks so cool [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► and then get it rarely measures up so [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► can I see my style I supplies my kids do [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► that now and the worst part is my kids [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► don't have the immunity we all had the [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► immunity of like watching lots of [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► commercials and knowing well it's a [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► commercial but it looks cool my kids we [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► have you know tivo is my kids have no [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► commercial immunity at all so that they [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► will they will see a commercial and be [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► like I must have that right now it is [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► the greatest thing ever it's like no no [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► commercial commercial made it's kinda [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► scary though right guy like AC at though [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► well sporting events or occasionally [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► there's a lady or occasionally there's a [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► kids show and they don't date they get [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► bored and they don't or they're not [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► paying attention they don't fast forward [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► and in fact that's they [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► today when we're not around and they're [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► watching a kids show in the other room [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► because we're better sr they don't ask [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► for because the four sweet forbidden [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► fruit of the commercial that's kind of [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► scary though because it's one of those [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► things that point out just how effective [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► they are right like mine I like like [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► there should be warning labels it's like [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► mind control [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► it's amazing although my son that [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► happened once with my son where where I [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► was watching back the the ipad [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► introduction for work I was just because [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► I was there and I I you know when you're [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► covering it is dns you know especially [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► it's kind of a blur and then you go back [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► later maybe in low-level I've been to [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► Steve Jobs events yeah occasionally our [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► alright well that's true it's a blur [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► this is your proof mother is my [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► transformer anything anyway my my my son [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► I didn't realize was watching from [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► behind the couch and after i was done he [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► said daddy I have to have an ipad right [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► now I'm so I don't know he's in the [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► reality reality distortion field know [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► and but it turns out it's just a [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► commercial field he doesn't have any [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► isn't immunity everything that you're [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► trying to they're trying to sell the me [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► right like they're trying to make me [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► explain commercial six children when [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► they first saw them I said he was [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► watching a show and daddy what's this [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► because he'd never seen that car before [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► and I said I said the the commercials [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► that was the commercial says it's the [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► things they put on TV to make you buy [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► stuff and now he now he is first [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► impression of those that someone trying [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► to make him do something so that's how [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► he understands marshals and I don't [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► battle against the idea of someone [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► making him do anything that sounds like [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► how we would make him do something still [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► can't get pulled into the field but I [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► also taught them had a 30-second skip [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► very early on so he really does skip the [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► stuff on his own like that you have your [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► priorities in line i described [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► commercials to my children as they're [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► lying to you that takes it one step [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► further [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► ya welcome and you need to do that right [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► because there's that that expectation [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► gap where you seen on TV and it looks [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► really cool and then when you get it [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► you're like wow this is really growing [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► up though isn't it like you have to [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► learn that yourself and I make things [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► like mail-order freshwater humiliating [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► disappoint many ways own eight weeks for [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► deriving the mail and I were commonly [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► asked piece of crap that you saved your [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► allowance oh my god stop talking i said [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► in the world roxrite yeah i totally for [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► the battle [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► star Galactica play kit in whatever the [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► 1979 presumably and it took it was like [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► a lot of six to eight weeks for delivery [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► well first off that was a lie [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► it took like a 14 weeks for delivery and [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► when I got it was like pieces of [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► cardboard that you could fold into the [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► shape of a Viper pilots dashboard or [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► something [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► it was so disappointing and I i sent my [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► valuable box tops in for that people [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► saying shrimp are not actually mermen [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► what i will say that they be the [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► exception I roll my experience was used [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► to love when I was a kid we had all of [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► the like whenever you bought a set of [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► legos they would come with like the [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► catalog for all the lego sets and this [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► is back when the girls were still good [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► and wait and wait for legos not good [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► news [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► they're good to spend ok they're ok [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► they're not they're not what they used [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► to be [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► can you only buys the whole we have a [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► whole podcast about like all right okay [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► anyway so like I remember what I would [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► walk to school with my friends again the [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► elementary school and have all the [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► catalogs and they would divvy up and [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► someone will be like the space catalog [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► or like the town cataloguing the castle [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► catalog and what we would like flip [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► through those things and like pick out [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► all the awesome sets that we wanted and [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► I were that's that was the same sort of [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► thing like you had to like fill out like [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► an order form and make sure that you [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► were like I would like fill out the [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► order forms for my parents and be like [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► because United trust them right to get [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► the right sets and everything so I would [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► fill them all out and then they would [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► take like like six to eight weeks to [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► show up and it would just be like every [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► day coming home and lights and waiting [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► by the door for kids torture you and you [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► don't really realize mine is torture if [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► I can't wait the amazon prime [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► deliberately have two days have been [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► talking two days and they can't believe [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► that you're offering at the mouth by the [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► time the fedex guy showed up [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► dan didn't you want the princess castle [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► know what one of them [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► hello curse you I would be so sad you [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► can't trust your parents my parents my [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► parents were like hey you like it's the [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► 80s you like music here's a Thompson [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► Twins cassette like you can't just go to [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► go to the drugstore and buy a tape and [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► so yeah it's music from the eighties [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► were in the eighties now he's a kid [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► enjoy doesn't know dr. dog was it only [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► in the nineties where they would do like [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► if you signed up for a book fair at [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► school you could potentially get these [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► weird like special edition packets of [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► whatever seems things like I remember [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► using too easy to get like sign up for [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► the Star Wars special edition packet [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► where you get like a membership packet [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► every month if you paid 1295 and their [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► be maybe like a cute little cardboard [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► taught toy but also like special [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► exclusive content from George Lucas are [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► from like one of them was that only like [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► a nineties thing that we spent the past [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► ten years trying to not get special card [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► 4gb exactly the opposite you get to take [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► I find up and shove it back into George [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► Lucas there's a podcast wow i'm still [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► waiting for that movie by the way the [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► people versus George Lucas I don't know [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► if it's out yet but I'm I'm ready for [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► that one [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► there's a whole something on your [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► Christmas letters and yes they're too [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► man [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► we we we are gonna you know I have to [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► break it to the listeners of the [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► incomparable bad news we have lots of [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► ideas for topics we may be here for a [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► while so if you're waiting for us to [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► give up your dumb sorry we might not be [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► able to give up because we gotta cover [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► you know all the star wars' I just was [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► thinking when was talking about that I [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► was remembering Star Wars cards and then [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► it's like baseball cards and was like [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► that we had blue cards and then there [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► were the yellow cards in the red cards [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► and you open a package like oh these are [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► the greencards their crappy the moment I [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► call it a whole bunch of those later on [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► in like I remember what year when the [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► early nineties maybe that they must be [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► after that because they had these like [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► widescreen cards that tops came out with [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► that were all like scenes from the star [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► wars movie yeah that's it that was much [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► that was much later [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► hey I had a ton of us greg did you and I [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► were of the generation while you make [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► might have been a little tool for that [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► when when there's like the boba fett or [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► you're sorry [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► well I know maybe you were the right [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► generation when they're like promise to [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► boba fett but they didn't fire away [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► back or know what was it wasn't no star [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► wars action figures in 77 where the with [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► a wood saw an empty promise all the [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► action figures and you all you got was a [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► box with nothing in it and the promise [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► of action figures because they can't [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► read manufacture them in time for the [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► popularity of the movie so you go to the [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► store and what you buy with your money [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► was this empty cardboard box with little [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► pictures of the things that you might [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► get eventually I never bought action [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► figures but i do remember that friends [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► had like a Luke who had a lightsaber [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► stuck-up is only a little [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► yeah they were all nighter yeah that's [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► the anything about my parents also know [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► not what they didn't allow video games [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► they also my mother specifically did not [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► allow weapons [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► John and I have to call my dentist our [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► wires they took away all the guns I [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► think I money like that everywhere he [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► goes no I'm not Amish I'd just my mother [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► was a hippie but they couldn't take away [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► lightsabers because they're all inserted [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► into the arms a little bit well you can [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► pull it matters ever made like some yea [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► though they didn't read that but you [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► could like pull up the plastic insert [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► but the writing and lifesavers whatever [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► those little black but then later on [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► everyone [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► I don't like later on I had a Return of [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► the Jedi Luke that actually had like a [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► detachable white sangria that we're [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► gonna involve in figures and they got [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► over the years to 12-inch figures the [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► Barbie figures with the all the extra [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► accessories I modern tell you that I [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► loved that had like a removable helmet [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► when they were awesome [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► they were on the same scale as the [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► Barbies I i had actually thanks for [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► mentioning that ran because I i got one [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► Christmas I got AI got a Barbie [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► Winnebago and you may be asking Jason I [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► didn't know you play with Barbies I [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► didn't but my Captain Kirk mr. Spock [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► dolls were on the exact same scale so [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► Captain Kirk mr. Spock would take [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► adventures in their shuttle and have it [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► was a Winnebago and I think I inherited [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► that a bad room and and you could you [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► could you lift up it had a retractable [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► kind of metal roof yeah and I had that I [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► had is inherited that from 10 minutes [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► that was great Captain Kirk mr. Spock [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► the adventures they had that Winnebago [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► who I had a 12 pitch radar we can cancel [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► the most flash fiction know what since [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► last fall and that's all I had it I had [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► a 12-inch GI joe that had actual stubble [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► on his head and a scar on his face was [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► before they made him pitch friendly he [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► wasn't anything I was originally a toast [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► Vietnam g [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► I Joe my we started out before they [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► track him down into a quote-unquote [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► action figure because boys don't play [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► with dolls PDF flyer max to every once [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► in awhile he would go in slaughter [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► Superman punch back action [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► wow you Superman Superman had a rubber a [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► bicep muscle you could wrap a little [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► piece of silver plastic around and so [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► when you flex his arm it would pop the [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► steel band off their search are clever [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► in those days I feel like instead of [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► just relying on like battery power and [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► light up the whole transformers are [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► pretty clever over 24 hours were pretty [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► cool [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► yeah july gotta get out this form right [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► now we're terrible as again there are [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► plastic right and there didn't we were [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► not like metal ones when I was in we [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► send we spent last year a long time [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► trying to find transformer that was the [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► basic you know it's a it's a guy who [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► folds up into a car and we couldn't even [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► find any of them because now they're all [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► like in little pieces are you sticking [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► together with your animals and crap or [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► Orchestra tuning on the old ones where [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► they were my son had one that he kinda [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► like but it was super simple you can [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► push it together it was a car and then [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► it would press a button and it popped up [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► and it was a robot top in a car which is [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► not fun [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► so it's really the Transformers even you [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► know I blame Michael know that I still [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► have online identity now I should start [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► something to like pay for what 10 i'm [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► gonna go cry now [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► wow wow I do like a transformer so much [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► but you can't remember which one it was [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► so how much do you really like blocked [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► it out [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► seriously we'll just look at all your [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► Transformers now and see which one is [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► missing [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► aye aye aye aye win but I bought a micro [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► not on ebay a couple years ago no one [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► I've already bought like go on ebay [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► starting sighs and I I saved my biotron [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► now that's a you from missing and MIT [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► and yet hehe damage so I blame my [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► parents I think this room way and so I [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► went on on ebay and i found one and now [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► he's he stands up on the top of my [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► bookshelf in my bedroom and looks down [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► on me and says foolish foolish human i [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► am but a lump of plans i'm sure he's not [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► the only thing looking down here [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► no there's there's there's a bunch of [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► stuff looking down on me from up there [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► that's what you meant at night [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► yeah absolutely what I'm not you [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► familiar with all pretty much everybody [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► else on the podcast is looking down [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► Jason yeah after some of the stories I [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► heard today I i'm not sure about they're [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► on the same dirty plane [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► yeah yeah really so well I think that [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► we've done enough damage for one day so [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► I would like to thank my guests for [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► joining me today for this special [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► holiday filled edition of the [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► uncomfortable so thank you Dan Morgan [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► thanks for having me thank you John [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► siracusa thank you Greg NOS thank you [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► again [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► happy Holidays Happy Holidays and ran [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► called well thank you thank you pleasure [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► as always [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► alright and until next time this is [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► jason l thanks for listening to the [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► encounter [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► happy holidays Roman anyone at the [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► incomparable podcast visit us at the [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► incomparable dot-com [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► dan is coming that's why he's not here [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► yes thank you Wow we'll put that on the [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► end with all of the other any Syracuse's [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► slot as I'll now call it yeah I [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► appreciate that last time ago i think i [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► went a little long [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► just got to get the feet the little [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► nuggets like if someone makes a strange [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► noise during the finger says a weird [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► word just that one word can be the thing [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► or you can have two minutes of talk i'm [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► glad to have you here to explain the [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► proper format for the junk that gets [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► left at the end of an excellent source [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► of things other people should do that i [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► don't have to do one day we might have a [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► podcast where there isn't anything left [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► in the cutting room floor at the perfect [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► podcast sadly today is not that no today [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► we dream about it [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► listen to that I wonder what that means [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► it means it is time no see I can't say [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► that cuz there's no context right it's [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► time for the in pop imponderable podcast [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► I do that every time [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► stop stop stop stop with the music [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► yourself talking about the perfect vodka [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► i know i know you can talk about it [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► totally ruins it [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► okay feel better now excuse me the [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► spoiler horn has come in law [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► pace yourself pace yourself it's a long [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► podcast god that's everything long [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► podcast [TS]