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11: To Be Continued?

 

00:00:00 ◼   ► podcast episode 11 / 2010 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/0">TS</a>]

00:00:14 ◼   ► this is the uncomfortable podcast I call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/14">TS</a>]

00:00:16 ◼   ► this meeting of the book club to order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/16">TS</a>]

00:00:18 ◼   ► it is it made to order it when i get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/18">TS</a>]

00:00:22 ◼   ► choose I didn't choose actually i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/22">TS</a>]

00:00:23 ◼   ► what books we finally decided to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/23">TS</a>]

00:00:25 ◼   ► about this and didn't say I hate you all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/25">TS</a>]

00:00:27 ◼   ► that every podcast was supposed to let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/27">TS</a>]

00:00:28 ◼   ► me introduce all the people i hate today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/28">TS</a>]

00:00:30 ◼   ► first and foremost the voice you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/30">TS</a>]

00:00:33 ◼   ► heard Glenn fleischmann hi Glenn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/33">TS</a>]

00:00:36 ◼   ► hello there I also joining us today Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/36">TS</a>]

00:00:39 ◼   ► Morgan who's on every podcast idea i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/39">TS</a>]

00:00:42 ◼   ► on every podcast in the world that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/42">TS</a>]

00:00:45 ◼   ► right i don't know why but he is usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/45">TS</a>]

00:00:50 ◼   ► uninvited I really really bored clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/50">TS</a>]

00:00:52 ◼   ► also joining us today Scott McNulty who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/52">TS</a>]

00:00:57 ◼   ► will be with us for a while and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/57">TS</a>]

00:00:58 ◼   ► we'll duck out to do like exercise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/58">TS</a>]

00:01:01 ◼   ► stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/61">TS</a>]

00:01:01 ◼   ► yes I i'm a fat man who wants to be less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/61">TS</a>]

00:01:04 ◼   ► fat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/64">TS</a>]

00:01:05 ◼   ► well that's your holding down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/65">TS</a>]

00:01:06 ◼   ► Zeppelin right now exactly you can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/66">TS</a>]

00:01:08 ◼   ► lighter than air and also joining us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/68">TS</a>]

00:01:11 ◼   ► today for his first time on the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/71">TS</a>]

00:01:13 ◼   ► be gentle or or don't be gentle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/73">TS</a>]

00:01:16 ◼   ► Greg moss by Regis it's really nice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/76">TS</a>]

00:01:19 ◼   ► be here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/79">TS</a>]

00:01:19 ◼   ► that's right Kathie Lee will be joining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/79">TS</a>]

00:01:21 ◼   ► us worked me like a ham [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/81">TS</a>]

00:01:23 ◼   ► haha that's not not a euphemism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/83">TS</a>]

00:01:27 ◼   ► everybody workin him like a ham [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/87">TS</a>]

00:01:30 ◼   ► so we have three books to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/90">TS</a>]

00:01:31 ◼   ► today and first up is spin winner of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/91">TS</a>]

00:01:35 ◼   ► hugo award by robert charles wilson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/95">TS</a>]

00:01:37 ◼   ► published in 2005 on the hugo award in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/97">TS</a>]

00:01:40 ◼   ► 2006 it is apparently the first book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/100">TS</a>]

00:01:43 ◼   ► according to wikipedia in the spin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/103">TS</a>]

00:01:45 ◼   ► trilogy I've only read the first book so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/105">TS</a>]

00:01:47 ◼   ► I cannot speak to the other magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/107">TS</a>]

00:01:50 ◼   ► selections in this in this a in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/110">TS</a>]

00:01:52 ◼   ► astrology I believe several of you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/112">TS</a>]

00:01:54 ◼   ► finish this book I've read this ages ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/114">TS</a>]

00:01:57 ◼   ► I know you're talking about like five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/117">TS</a>]

00:01:59 ◼   ► minutes ago right looks like at least I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/119">TS</a>]

00:02:00 ◼   ► mean defensive we talked about in spin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/120">TS</a>]

00:02:02 ◼   ► time or a regular time is right for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/122">TS</a>]

00:02:04 ◼   ► inside the envelope or outside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/124">TS</a>]

00:02:06 ◼   ► envelope and Scott you just finished it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/126">TS</a>]

00:02:08 ◼   ► recently to write i finished last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/128">TS</a>]

00:02:10 ◼   ► wow I finished about two weeks ago so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/130">TS</a>]

00:02:13 ◼   ► apparently had a curve my goodness this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/133">TS</a>]

00:02:14 ◼   ► is like a real book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/134">TS</a>]

00:02:18 ◼   ► I i read it like two years ago but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/138">TS</a>]

00:02:20 ◼   ► that's okay that was you know I feel I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/140">TS</a>]

00:02:23 ◼   ► feel like I'm with it now we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/143">TS</a>]

00:02:25 ◼   ► start by asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/145">TS</a>]

00:02:26 ◼   ► didn't you read the next to is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/146">TS</a>]

00:02:27 ◼   ► indication of the books quality i bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/147">TS</a>]

00:02:29 ◼   ► a kindle and it's not available on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/149">TS</a>]

00:02:31 ◼   ► kindle and I decided I wasn't going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/151">TS</a>]

00:02:33 ◼   ► find paper and I haven't you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/153">TS</a>]

00:02:34 ◼   ► third one is not yet i bought it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/154">TS</a>]

00:02:37 ◼   ► there that would also be that would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/157">TS</a>]

00:02:38 ◼   ► small bottles of time and space which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/158">TS</a>]

00:02:41 ◼   ► are contravene in many parts of spin so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/161">TS</a>]

00:02:43 ◼   ► anyway to spin robert charles wilson the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/163">TS</a>]

00:02:46 ◼   ► premise is that what would happen if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/166">TS</a>]

00:02:49 ◼   ► earth kind of got enveloped by this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/169">TS</a>]

00:02:51 ◼   ► shell that turns out to be slowing its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/171">TS</a>]

00:02:55 ◼   ► passage through time so time and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/175">TS</a>]

00:02:57 ◼   ► rest of the universe is patched passing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/177">TS</a>]

00:02:59 ◼   ► much faster than it is on earth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/179">TS</a>]

00:03:02 ◼   ► there are some social ramifications and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/182">TS</a>]

00:03:05 ◼   ► there's some character ramifications and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/185">TS</a>]

00:03:07 ◼   ► then there's some interesting things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/187">TS</a>]

00:03:07 ◼   ► that happen when you when they start to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/187">TS</a>]

00:03:09 ◼   ► figure out that they can actually send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/189">TS</a>]

00:03:10 ◼   ► stuff outside of the bubble into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/190">TS</a>]

00:03:12 ◼   ► rest of the universe so i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/192">TS</a>]

00:03:15 ◼   ► don't know quite where to start uh we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/195">TS</a>]

00:03:18 ◼   ► circle back around to this at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/198">TS</a>]

00:03:19 ◼   ► but you know did you guys did you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/199">TS</a>]

00:03:22 ◼   ► like it and you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/202">TS</a>]

00:03:24 ◼   ► what did you like about it and what did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/204">TS</a>]

00:03:25 ◼   ► you not about let's go with dan who read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/205">TS</a>]

00:03:27 ◼   ► it the most recently by several minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/207">TS</a>]

00:03:30 ◼   ► yeah i'm struggling to digest this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/210">TS</a>]

00:03:32 ◼   ► entire book that i just finished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/212">TS</a>]

00:03:34 ◼   ► um I kind of give it a solid i liked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/214">TS</a>]

00:03:38 ◼   ► you know wasn't it wasn't like what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/218">TS</a>]

00:03:41 ◼   ► didn't love it I didn't think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/221">TS</a>]

00:03:42 ◼   ► like the best book I've read but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/222">TS</a>]

00:03:43 ◼   ► entertaining it was interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/223">TS</a>]

00:03:45 ◼   ► there's certainly a lot of great ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/225">TS</a>]

00:03:46 ◼   ► in here and he really does pack them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/226">TS</a>]

00:03:48 ◼   ► um I i guess when I felt like what kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/228">TS</a>]

00:03:51 ◼   ► of the weaknesses are some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/231">TS</a>]

00:03:54 ◼   ► characters are interesting but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/234">TS</a>]

00:03:55 ◼   ► very hard to identify with at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/235">TS</a>]

00:03:57 ◼   ► points more deliberately than others i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/237">TS</a>]

00:03:59 ◼   ► think you know especially when you talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/239">TS</a>]

00:04:00 ◼   ► about this these you could argue the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/240">TS</a>]

00:04:03 ◼   ► central character if not the protagonist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/243">TS</a>]

00:04:04 ◼   ► is is this guy Jason and he is terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/244">TS</a>]

00:04:08 ◼   ► and another one yeah yeah what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/248">TS</a>]

00:04:10 ◼   ► terrible i can't you just can't believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/250">TS</a>]

00:04:11 ◼   ► anybody with the name Jason no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13 ◼   ► untrustworthy but he's kind of intended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/253">TS</a>]

00:04:16 ◼   ► to be you know he sort of set up as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/256">TS</a>]

00:04:19 ◼   ► he's a genius you know he knows he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/259">TS</a>]

00:04:22 ◼   ► very intelligent he's been groomed from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/262">TS</a>]

00:04:23 ◼   ► a young age to really change the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/263">TS</a>]

00:04:27 ◼   ► somehow how many happens to find this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/267">TS</a>]

00:04:30 ◼   ► sort of you know he comes of age in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/270">TS</a>]

00:04:31 ◼   ► is perfect timing when he's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/271">TS</a>]

00:04:33 ◼   ► able to put himself in a position where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/273">TS</a>]

00:04:35 ◼   ► you can actually change the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/275">TS</a>]

00:04:36 ◼   ► arguably but he's also kind of this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/276">TS</a>]

00:04:39 ◼   ► screwed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/279">TS</a>]

00:04:39 ◼   ► screw double character who is very set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/279">TS</a>]

00:04:41 ◼   ► apart from a lot of the other characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/281">TS</a>]

00:04:43 ◼   ► including the narrator who is his best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/283">TS</a>]

00:04:45 ◼   ► friend and who is sort of the tempering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/285">TS</a>]

00:04:48 ◼   ► influence and sometimes but I'm also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/288">TS</a>]

00:04:51 ◼   ► seems to be on you know almost a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/291">TS</a>]

00:04:53 ◼   ► realistic plane but I guess I found you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/293">TS</a>]

00:04:56 ◼   ► know some of the characters harder to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58 ◼   ► identify with others the wilson a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/298">TS</a>]

00:05:02 ◼   ► his female characters especially are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/302">TS</a>]

00:05:04 ◼   ► very hate to say not known always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/304">TS</a>]

00:05:07 ◼   ► complimentary and not always as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/307">TS</a>]

00:05:10 ◼   ► drawn as i think i would like we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/310">TS</a>]

00:05:13 ◼   ► very much the idea of Jason's sister [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/313">TS</a>]

00:05:15 ◼   ► Diane like speed through the prison of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/315">TS</a>]

00:05:17 ◼   ► prism of the protagonist who is in love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/317">TS</a>]

00:05:19 ◼   ► with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/319">TS</a>]

00:05:19 ◼   ► so we get her drawn up a lot and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/319">TS</a>]

00:05:22 ◼   ► think that's necessarily always borne [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/322">TS</a>]

00:05:24 ◼   ► out by her actual portrayal is she not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/324">TS</a>]

00:05:26 ◼   ► Jenny from Forrest Gump I mean kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/326">TS</a>]

00:05:29 ◼   ► weird AC like goats on she's old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/329">TS</a>]

00:05:31 ◼   ► childhood friend and she's not here for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/331">TS</a>]

00:05:33 ◼   ► a lot of streets caught up in some crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/333">TS</a>]

00:05:35 ◼   ► fundamentalist religion stuff and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/335">TS</a>]

00:05:38 ◼   ► kind of a hippie well and MGM you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/338">TS</a>]

00:05:40 ◼   ► that's cute which I felt I I like given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/340">TS</a>]

00:05:43 ◼   ► the fact that she was put on such a high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/343">TS</a>]

00:05:44 ◼   ► pedestal i kind of expected more from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/344">TS</a>]

00:05:46 ◼   ► her like what is he really seen her like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/346">TS</a>]

00:05:48 ◼   ► you know they're there were definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/348">TS</a>]

00:05:49 ◼   ► some sparks of earlier on I guess in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/349">TS</a>]

00:05:51 ◼   ► relationship in terms of like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/351">TS</a>]

00:05:53 ◼   ► she set up to be kind of a parallel to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/353">TS</a>]

00:05:55 ◼   ► her brother but also always like a step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/355">TS</a>]

00:05:58 ◼   ► below him right and so i guess ii you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/358">TS</a>]

00:06:00 ◼   ► know it's hard for me to to sort of see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/360">TS</a>]

00:06:02 ◼   ► her the way that I think the protagonist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/362">TS</a>]

00:06:04 ◼   ► does I've seen this problem in a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/364">TS</a>]

00:06:06 ◼   ► of science fiction novels where there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/366">TS</a>]

00:06:08 ◼   ► a group of characters who started as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/368">TS</a>]

00:06:10 ◼   ► children and their super kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/370">TS</a>]

00:06:12 ◼   ► I mean you know they're going to span [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/372">TS</a>]

00:06:13 ◼   ► the entire course of the novel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/373">TS</a>]

00:06:15 ◼   ► they're going to change the world and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/375">TS</a>]

00:06:16 ◼   ► they don't they seem remote from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/376">TS</a>]

00:06:18 ◼   ► moment they're introduced yeah like hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/378">TS</a>]

00:06:21 ◼   ► identified because I mean I mean I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/381">TS</a>]

00:06:22 ◼   ► you guys I mean I wasn't super good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/382">TS</a>]

00:06:24 ◼   ► briefly but yes I guess it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/384">TS</a>]

00:06:27 ◼   ► easier to and you're still wear the Cape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/387">TS</a>]

00:06:29 ◼   ► there is that what they said it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/389">TS</a>]

00:06:30 ◼   ► have a little bit of the width of Endor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/390">TS</a>]

00:06:32 ◼   ► to him right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/392">TS</a>]

00:06:33 ◼   ► yes exactly that's a great compares true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/393">TS</a>]

00:06:34 ◼   ► both characters jerks haha look for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/394">TS</a>]

00:06:39 ◼   ► radar good arguably right like third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/399">TS</a>]

00:06:41 ◼   ► hurt so the rest of humanity doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/401">TS</a>]

00:06:43 ◼   ► have to live like jerks and enter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/403">TS</a>]

00:06:46 ◼   ► doesn't like died in the corner with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/406">TS</a>]

00:06:47 ◼   ► crystals growing out of his eyes now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/407">TS</a>]

00:06:49 ◼   ► right but where's the spoiler warning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/409">TS</a>]

00:06:51 ◼   ► always people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/411">TS</a>]

00:06:53 ◼   ► hey sorry we've already fired the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/413">TS</a>]

00:06:55 ◼   ► spoiler horn always have to remember to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/415">TS</a>]

00:06:57 ◼   ► put in virtual i only read the first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59 ◼   ► the under books to read it didn't stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/419">TS</a>]

00:07:03 ◼   ► there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/423">TS</a>]

00:07:03 ◼   ► this is part of our ongoing the ongoing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/423">TS</a>]

00:07:05 ◼   ► incomparable theme of only read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/425">TS</a>]

00:07:08 ◼   ► first book in any cereal 24 hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/428">TS</a>]

00:07:10 ◼   ► yeah is there any yet tell me about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/430">TS</a>]

00:07:12 ◼   ► second dune book how'd that work out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/432">TS</a>]

00:07:14 ◼   ► no yeah so Scott know what did you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/434">TS</a>]

00:07:18 ◼   ► I enjoyed the book a lot i did cut i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/438">TS</a>]

00:07:23 ◼   ► agree with Dan most of the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/443">TS</a>]

00:07:24 ◼   ► are not likeable and I kind of found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26 ◼   ► them it was the same Tyler time like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/446">TS</a>]

00:07:29 ◼   ► the protagonist of the narrator is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/449">TS</a>]

00:07:32 ◼   ► either well he's the we see the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/452">TS</a>]

00:07:34 ◼   ► from his point of view and he kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/454">TS</a>]

00:07:36 ◼   ► ideal hehe is like a farming puppy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/456">TS</a>]

00:07:40 ◼   ► this family of people who do not treat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/460">TS</a>]

00:07:42 ◼   ► him all that well but he just keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/462">TS</a>]

00:07:44 ◼   ► going back to them right uh which I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/464">TS</a>]

00:07:47 ◼   ► of annoyed me throughout the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/467">TS</a>]

00:07:48 ◼   ► because you know he's he's kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/468">TS</a>]

00:07:50 ◼   ► most relatable of the characters that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/470">TS</a>]

00:07:52 ◼   ► are all unrelatable so you kind of feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/472">TS</a>]

00:07:55 ◼   ► for him but then you think why do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/475">TS</a>]

00:07:57 ◼   ► keep going back to these situations with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/477">TS</a>]

00:07:58 ◼   ► these people don't seem to care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/478">TS</a>]

00:08:00 ◼   ► you and he's kinda cold to write like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/480">TS</a>]

00:08:02 ◼   ► they make a point of that a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/482">TS</a>]

00:08:04 ◼   ► different places in the book of him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/484">TS</a>]

00:08:05 ◼   ► being a little bit removed from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/485">TS</a>]

00:08:07 ◼   ► world right when he starts going out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/487">TS</a>]

00:08:10 ◼   ► with that woman who is and his coldness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/490">TS</a>]

00:08:12 ◼   ► it is justified because it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/492">TS</a>]

00:08:15 ◼   ► that woman is a secret double agent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/495">TS</a>]

00:08:18 ◼   ► yeah another one of the female [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/498">TS</a>]

00:08:20 ◼   ► characters whose not drawn exceedingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/500">TS</a>]

00:08:22 ◼   ► complement really it doesn't it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/502">TS</a>]

00:08:23 ◼   ► come off well we all know women are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/503">TS</a>]

00:08:26 ◼   ► about sex religion and betrayal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/506">TS</a>]

00:08:28 ◼   ► oh don't forget out we really don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/508">TS</a>]

00:08:31 ◼   ► haha drunk is drunk stupid and what else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/511">TS</a>]

00:08:36 ◼   ► is you've got to have that jaded I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/516">TS</a>]

00:08:38 ◼   ► I like this book but he did the mom of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/518">TS</a>]

00:08:41 ◼   ► the of the up Jason and Diane is a she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/521">TS</a>]

00:08:45 ◼   ► like you're jaded Washington alcoholic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/525">TS</a>]

00:08:48 ◼   ► housewife right with a secret deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/528">TS</a>]

00:08:51 ◼   ► secret that can only be revealed 5% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/531">TS</a>]

00:08:53 ◼   ► before the end of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/533">TS</a>]

00:08:54 ◼   ► yes exactly yeah if she gets a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/534">TS</a>]

00:08:57 ◼   ► Redemption a little bit of the air but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59 ◼   ► especially a central casting sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/539">TS</a>]

00:09:02 ◼   ► others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/542">TS</a>]

00:09:02 ◼   ► is one positive female characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/542">TS</a>]

00:09:04 ◼   ► malaysia right here malaysia and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/544">TS</a>]

00:09:05 ◼   ► indianola yes although you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/545">TS</a>]

00:09:07 ◼   ► Malaysian doctor and she is awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/547">TS</a>]

00:09:09 ◼   ► she's well-drawn she's fasting this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/549">TS</a>]

00:09:12 ◼   ► my problem with the book is that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/552">TS</a>]

00:09:13 ◼   ► much more interested in the secondary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/553">TS</a>]

00:09:15 ◼   ► characters then the main characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/555">TS</a>]

00:09:16 ◼   ► there's an incredibly strong plot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/556">TS</a>]

00:09:19 ◼   ► some really neat science like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/559">TS</a>]

00:09:21 ◼   ► really neat ways of like where you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/561">TS</a>]

00:09:23 ◼   ► starting to sound exactly the envelopes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/563">TS</a>]

00:09:25 ◼   ► about for the first time for the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/565">TS</a>]

00:09:26 ◼   ► then once all that's known i'm like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/566">TS</a>]

00:09:28 ◼   ► I really kind of like the Martian or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/568">TS</a>]

00:09:31 ◼   ► like you know that the double-crossing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/571">TS</a>]

00:09:33 ◼   ► betray Roman like she's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/573">TS</a>]

00:09:35 ◼   ► interesting or the fundamentalist guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/575">TS</a>]

00:09:37 ◼   ► who died in Mary's like he's passing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/577">TS</a>]

00:09:40 ◼   ► bizarre like all those people are drawn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/580">TS</a>]

00:09:41 ◼   ► and sketches much more richly if not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/581">TS</a>]

00:09:44 ◼   ► realistically than the primary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/584">TS</a>]

00:09:46 ◼   ► characters yeah i mean speaking I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/586">TS</a>]

00:09:48 ◼   ► speaking from a writer Lee perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/588">TS</a>]

00:09:49 ◼   ► and that's easier and a lot of ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/589">TS</a>]

00:09:51 ◼   ► right because when you have a character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/591">TS</a>]

00:09:52 ◼   ► who is such a major character they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/592">TS</a>]

00:09:54 ◼   ► to be so fleshed out you know just in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/594">TS</a>]

00:09:57 ◼   ► terms of their exposure in the book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59 ◼   ► have to be so developed and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/599">TS</a>]

00:10:00 ◼   ► three-dimensional to get you to really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/600">TS</a>]

00:10:01 ◼   ► be inside their head that it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/601">TS</a>]

00:10:04 ◼   ► tough because you can really see it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/604">TS</a>]

00:10:05 ◼   ► very close detail as opposed to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/605">TS</a>]

00:10:08 ◼   ► sketches that you get for those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/608">TS</a>]

00:10:09 ◼   ► secondary characters which are often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/609">TS</a>]

00:10:10 ◼   ► enough to get you let your imagination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/610">TS</a>]

00:10:13 ◼   ► soar to fill in the rest of the details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/613">TS</a>]

00:10:15 ◼   ► you don't necessarily have to go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/615">TS</a>]

00:10:16 ◼   ► their home life and like you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/616">TS</a>]

00:10:17 ◼   ► had a terrible childhood and all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/617">TS</a>]

00:10:19 ◼   ► stuff you can sort of get an idea from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/619">TS</a>]

00:10:20 ◼   ► them from just a brief you throwaway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/620">TS</a>]

00:10:23 ◼   ► lines and I i agree i think Wilson does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/623">TS</a>]

00:10:24 ◼   ► vary a great job with a lot of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/624">TS</a>]

00:10:26 ◼   ► secondary characters so you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/626">TS</a>]

00:10:28 ◼   ► book does have this interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/628">TS</a>]

00:10:29 ◼   ► back-and-forth device where you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/629">TS</a>]

00:10:33 ◼   ► the infield essentially billions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/633">TS</a>]

00:10:34 ◼   ► years in the future with the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36 ◼   ► characters that we we see in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/636">TS</a>]

00:10:39 ◼   ► when their kids and it goes back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/639">TS</a>]

00:10:41 ◼   ► forth and to glens point it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/641">TS</a>]

00:10:43 ◼   ► interesting that the the stuff that set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/643">TS</a>]

00:10:45 ◼   ► in the future feels very different some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/645">TS</a>]

00:10:48 ◼   ► of the characters they're very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/648">TS</a>]

00:10:49 ◼   ► interesting they're really on the run in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/649">TS</a>]

00:10:51 ◼   ► malaysia trying to get a boat to escape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/651">TS</a>]

00:10:54 ◼   ► and them and tyler is really sick and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/654">TS</a>]

00:10:57 ◼   ► don't really know why he's sick at first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/657">TS</a>]

00:11:00 ◼   ► and we discovered that very late and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/660">TS</a>]

00:11:04 ◼   ► I'll i really enjoy that time frame a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/664">TS</a>]

00:11:05 ◼   ► lot although it does have the flaw of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/665">TS</a>]

00:11:08 ◼   ► being a part of the story that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/668">TS</a>]

00:11:09 ◼   ► really have an ending right well I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/669">TS</a>]

00:11:12 ◼   ► the structure of the book if you ask me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14 ◼   ► is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16 ◼   ► kind of i'm guessing it's deliver in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/676">TS</a>]

00:11:18 ◼   ► this sense that it's kind of an arch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/678">TS</a>]

00:11:20 ◼   ► right because both of the things start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/680">TS</a>]

00:11:23 ◼   ► you start the beginning and then at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/683">TS</a>]

00:11:24 ◼   ► end the two narratives meet yes and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/684">TS</a>]

00:11:28 ◼   ► and of course you know there is an arch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/688">TS</a>]

00:11:30 ◼   ► in the book a giant arch a giant art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/690">TS</a>]

00:11:32 ◼   ► which is symbolic so I think I mean I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/692">TS</a>]

00:11:34 ◼   ► would not be surprised to find that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/694">TS</a>]

00:11:36 ◼   ► structure of the narrative was created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/696">TS</a>]

00:11:37 ◼   ► to sort of have a have a resonance with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/697">TS</a>]

00:11:39 ◼   ► that I'm like that whole development who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/699">TS</a>]

00:11:44 ◼   ► was disappointed by the ending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/704">TS</a>]

00:11:45 ◼   ► everyone everyone everyone follows its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/705">TS</a>]

00:11:49 ◼   ► already just what disappointed you about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/709">TS</a>]

00:11:50 ◼   ► it i want to do is I was fascinated by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/710">TS</a>]

00:11:52 ◼   ► the idea of the bubble and the physics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/712">TS</a>]

00:11:54 ◼   ► that went into it and how society [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/714">TS</a>]

00:11:56 ◼   ► reacted to it and like there were so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/716">TS</a>]

00:11:57 ◼   ► many possibilities once they establish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/717">TS</a>]

00:11:59 ◼   ► that it happened and then as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/719">TS</a>]

00:12:01 ◼   ► started resolving those possibilities at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/721">TS</a>]

00:12:04 ◼   ► as the number of things that it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/724">TS</a>]

00:12:06 ◼   ► collapsed down into specifics they it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/726">TS</a>]

00:12:09 ◼   ► was all really well done but you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/729">TS</a>]

00:12:10 ◼   ► just kind of left with oh okay I'll buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/730">TS</a>]

00:12:13 ◼   ► that and the Martian was interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15 ◼   ► okay it was fun to go and terraform mars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/735">TS</a>]

00:12:17 ◼   ► in the next couple of weeks and but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/737">TS</a>]

00:12:19 ◼   ► just it didn't seem to add up to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/739">TS</a>]

00:12:22 ◼   ► potential that the bubble had at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/742">TS</a>]

00:12:24 ◼   ► beginning of the book in which turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/744">TS</a>]

00:12:25 ◼   ► to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/745">TS</a>]

00:12:26 ◼   ► it's a universal literally universal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/746">TS</a>]

00:12:28 ◼   ► fidonet wow you want something that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/748">TS</a>]

00:12:33 ◼   ► over haha haha no it's not it's my new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/753">TS</a>]

00:12:37 ◼   ► machines on going over all the gallery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/757">TS</a>]

00:12:39 ◼   ► forward packet network and they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/759">TS</a>]

00:12:41 ◼   ► decided I mean the premise again spoiler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/761">TS</a>]

00:12:43 ◼   ► horn long ago was fired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/763">TS</a>]

00:12:45 ◼   ► the premise is that that uh he's looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/765">TS</a>]

00:12:48 ◼   ► for work now the that the that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/768">TS</a>]

00:12:52 ◼   ► yes thank you and I have I'm sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/772">TS</a>]

00:12:55 ◼   ► the premise here is that they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57 ◼   ► wrapping intelligent races in this spin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/777">TS</a>]

00:13:00 ◼   ► shell so that they can prepare the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/780">TS</a>]

00:13:04 ◼   ► galaxy of the universe for them in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/784">TS</a>]

00:13:07 ◼   ► way but it's going to take them awhile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/787">TS</a>]

00:13:09 ◼   ► so basically the the robot say okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/789">TS</a>]

00:13:11 ◼   ► we're going to slow you down for a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/791">TS</a>]

00:13:13 ◼   ► billion years while we do other stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/793">TS</a>]

00:13:16 ◼   ► and then we'll take you back out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/796">TS</a>]

00:13:18 ◼   ► then party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/798">TS</a>]

00:13:20 ◼   ► it's kind of a pre singularity novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/800">TS</a>]

00:13:23 ◼   ► right like you know your did the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/803">TS</a>]

00:13:26 ◼   ► leaves off at the point at which are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/806">TS</a>]

00:13:27 ◼   ► sort of human humanities enter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/807">TS</a>]

00:13:29 ◼   ► what ya popularly called the singularity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/809">TS</a>]

00:13:31 ◼   ► and that's why the ending didn't bother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/811">TS</a>]

00:13:33 ◼   ► me because I felt like you know it is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/813">TS</a>]

00:13:36 ◼   ► ending to say and he you know Tyler sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/816">TS</a>]

00:13:38 ◼   ► of makes his transition into this fourth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/818">TS</a>]

00:13:40 ◼   ► stage of life and you know he and Diane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/820">TS</a>]

00:13:44 ◼   ► go through the whatever-it-is the arch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/824">TS</a>]

00:13:47 ◼   ► to this new world and and humanity makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/827">TS</a>]

00:13:50 ◼   ► the transition to yeah it's definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/830">TS</a>]

00:13:52 ◼   ► an ending but it's still kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/832">TS</a>]

00:13:53 ◼   ► disappointing ending given the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/833">TS</a>]

00:13:54 ◼   ► possibilities that there were at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/834">TS</a>]

00:13:56 ◼   ► beginning of the book a quarter of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/836">TS</a>]

00:13:57 ◼   ► way through the way in whatever that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/837">TS</a>]

00:13:59 ◼   ► always going to be the case though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/839">TS</a>]

00:14:00 ◼   ► mean like you know when you have so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/840">TS</a>]

00:14:02 ◼   ► ideas so many possibilities and as those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/842">TS</a>]

00:14:04 ◼   ► get diminished I think oftentimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/844">TS</a>]

00:14:06 ◼   ► there's there is there is a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/846">TS</a>]

00:14:07 ◼   ► potential for disappointment there if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/847">TS</a>]

00:14:10 ◼   ► I just thought it felt it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/850">TS</a>]

00:14:12 ◼   ► we're going to hang out yeah like it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/852">TS</a>]

00:14:14 ◼   ► be you didn't bring a book it one day I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/854">TS</a>]

00:14:17 ◼   ► just it's like to get towards the data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/857">TS</a>]

00:14:19 ◼   ► moment it's like everything was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/859">TS</a>]

00:14:21 ◼   ► interesting that the book starts to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/861">TS</a>]

00:14:22 ◼   ► drain out the Martians killed Mars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/862">TS</a>]

00:14:25 ◼   ► becomes more ordinary you get this sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/865">TS</a>]

00:14:27 ◼   ► of potboiler thing like why they're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/867">TS</a>]

00:14:29 ◼   ► the run seems really interesting until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/869">TS</a>]

00:14:31 ◼   ► you discover that for arbitrary reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/871">TS</a>]

00:14:33 ◼   ► the government is just killing all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/873">TS</a>]

00:14:34 ◼   ► people who have gone through this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/874">TS</a>]

00:14:36 ◼   ► transformation you're like well what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/876">TS</a>]

00:14:38 ◼   ► doesn't make sense when they kill him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/878">TS</a>]

00:14:39 ◼   ► round them up using for their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/879">TS</a>]

00:14:40 ◼   ► purposes exist you know autopsy then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/880">TS</a>]

00:14:43 ◼   ► whatever but the like they're killing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/883">TS</a>]

00:14:44 ◼   ► them because they're something like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/884">TS</a>]

00:14:46 ◼   ► i don't get it i mean maybe let's get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/886">TS</a>]

00:14:48 ◼   ► little futurist at the end they sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/888">TS</a>]

00:14:50 ◼   ► like dumped a whole bunch of info on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/890">TS</a>]

00:14:51 ◼   ► your like this is happening in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/891">TS</a>]

00:14:52 ◼   ► tempted to do that little thai where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/892">TS</a>]

00:14:54 ◼   ► they get the two narratives time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/894">TS</a>]

00:14:56 ◼   ► together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/896">TS</a>]

00:14:56 ◼   ► there's a lot of a lot of that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/896">TS</a>]

00:14:59 ◼   ► reminded me a little bit of Darwin's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/899">TS</a>]

00:15:00 ◼   ► radio and the sequel to that by Greg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/900">TS</a>]

00:15:02 ◼   ► bear which it's the same sort of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/902">TS</a>]

00:15:03 ◼   ► which is throughout the book the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05 ◼   ► government is sort of this and maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/905">TS</a>]

00:15:07 ◼   ► don't know maybe there's yeah some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/907">TS</a>]

00:15:08 ◼   ► politics involved here but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/908">TS</a>]

00:15:09 ◼   ► government does lots of things and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/909">TS</a>]

00:15:13 ◼   ► sort of a shadowy conspiracy or there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/913">TS</a>]

00:15:15 ◼   ► they do it out of fear or their Craven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/915">TS</a>]

00:15:16 ◼   ► politicians and you have a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/916">TS</a>]

00:15:18 ◼   ► story that sort of being driven by kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/918">TS</a>]

00:15:22 ◼   ► of stupid government or politics and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/922">TS</a>]

00:15:26 ◼   ► know maybe that's realism but I i almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/926">TS</a>]

00:15:29 ◼   ► want a little more escapism I guess from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/929">TS</a>]

00:15:33 ◼   ► a sci-fi novel and and 442 just come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/933">TS</a>]

00:15:36 ◼   ► down to the fact that while they're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/936">TS</a>]

00:15:37 ◼   ► bunch of jerks in the government who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/937">TS</a>]

00:15:39 ◼   ► going to want to suppress this or use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/939">TS</a>]

00:15:41 ◼   ► for their own purposes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/941">TS</a>]

00:15:42 ◼   ► I'm not even doing that they just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/942">TS</a>]

00:15:44 ◼   ► to arbitrarily hunt the heroes for nope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/944">TS</a>]

00:15:46 ◼   ► yeah because that's because if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/946">TS</a>]

00:15:48 ◼   ► required for the end of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/948">TS</a>]

00:15:50 ◼   ► well Darwin radio is kinda or the sequel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/950">TS</a>]

00:15:52 ◼   ► to it is it's kinda like that to which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/952">TS</a>]

00:15:53 ◼   ► meant them all down at once it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/953">TS</a>]

00:15:56 ◼   ► good but I kind of like the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/956">TS</a>]

00:15:58 ◼   ► paranoia aspect in the beginning when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/958">TS</a>]

00:15:59 ◼   ► everybody talks about being paranoid and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/959">TS</a>]

00:16:01 ◼   ► they're like well I mean we kind of got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/961">TS</a>]

00:16:02 ◼   ► a good reason to be paranoid right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/962">TS</a>]

00:16:04 ◼   ► some unknown force has totally wrapped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/964">TS</a>]

00:16:06 ◼   ► our world and his bubble lookin is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/966">TS</a>]

00:16:07 ◼   ► totally doing something to us that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/967">TS</a>]

00:16:09 ◼   ► don't really understand so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/969">TS</a>]

00:16:10 ◼   ► paranoia seems to make it look I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/970">TS</a>]

00:16:12 ◼   ► talk about borrowing because i know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/972">TS</a>]

00:16:14 ◼   ► did like the book until the ending I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/974">TS</a>]

00:16:16 ◼   ► thought actually was very strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/976">TS</a>]

00:16:17 ◼   ► interesting and really unique voice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/977">TS</a>]

00:16:19 ◼   ► I was really compelled to get through it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/979">TS</a>]

00:16:21 ◼   ► but like thinking about it now since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/981">TS</a>]

00:16:23 ◼   ► I've got the perspective of two weeks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/983">TS</a>]

00:16:25 ◼   ► write a lot about it I feel like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/985">TS</a>]

00:16:28 ◼   ► almost everything in the book comes from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/988">TS</a>]

00:16:29 ◼   ► somewhere else like it really starts to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/989">TS</a>]

00:16:31 ◼   ► feel like a pastiche within the drawing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/991">TS</a>]

00:16:33 ◼   ► main characters like you know i was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/993">TS</a>]

00:16:35 ◼   ► looking up i remember the Commonwealth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/995">TS</a>]

00:16:36 ◼   ► Saget and avoid trilogy Peter F Hamilton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/996">TS</a>]

00:16:38 ◼   ► series that are going on where it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/998">TS</a>]

00:16:41 ◼   ► know portals between worlds in a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:44 ◼   ► kind of sophisticated Society out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:46 ◼   ► hyperion which were talking about with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:48 ◼   ► portals between worlds that's kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:49 ◼   ► common but it's still this arch thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:51 ◼   ► once you walk back and forth between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:52 ◼   ► different places the Ringworld anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:55 ◼   ► think about Ringworld they talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:56 ◼   ► the fourth age business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:58 ◼   ► the Martians life-extending and whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:00 ◼   ► these people become protectors you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:03 ◼   ► they have slightly different physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:04 ◼   ► attributes their attitudes are changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:06 ◼   ► their more protective when he stranger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:08 ◼   ► in a strange land [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:10 ◼   ► yeah yeah this doesn't right Martian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:12 ◼   ► comes through which you can understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:13 ◼   ► the echoes of stranger in a strange land [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:15 ◼   ► like that's you know very well and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:16 ◼   ► gets and get out to which is kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:18 ◼   ► nice nice moment where the Martian wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:20 ◼   ► to read all the Martian sci-fi yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:23 ◼   ► it's in there is i mean there's more to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:25 ◼   ► but I I cus i wasn't it was all recycled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:27 ◼   ► or purposely borrowed but at the end as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:29 ◼   ► like that you know this is this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:31 ◼   ► 10 or 15 different you know hunks of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:34 ◼   ► different books are you know even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:35 ◼   ► the Kim Stanley Robinson Mars series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:38 ◼   ► where it's like we're going to terraform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:40 ◼   ► it's like let's take all of that and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:41 ◼   ► in 25 pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:43 ◼   ► we're gonna send these seed ships off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:45 ◼   ► and then if everything goes well they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:46 ◼   ► be settlers there who advanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:48 ◼   ► definitely another help i have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:50 ◼   ► that there are two great ideas in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:51 ◼   ► book and one of them is what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:52 ◼   ► happen to society if if you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:54 ◼   ► Stars went out and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:55 ◼   ► is perhaps a suggestion that that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:58 ◼   ► generation on the planet would be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:00 ◼   ► last because then the Sun will swell and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:01 ◼   ► that will be the end you get an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:02 ◼   ► eschatological been to ya and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:05 ◼   ► the other nice word and the other big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:07 ◼   ► idea here is this time bubble and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:09 ◼   ► ramifications of sending people through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:10 ◼   ► it and there's a really nice moment that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:12 ◼   ► has stuck with me in the last couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:14 ◼   ► years since i read it which is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:15 ◼   ► there's a slight launch malfunction in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:17 ◼   ► one of the ships that's going to Mars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:18 ◼   ► and it launches like 15 seconds too late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:22 ◼   ► which means that because of the speed of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:25 ◼   ► the time bubble that one ship is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:28 ◼   ► to be like 10,000 years behind everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:31 ◼   ► else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:32 ◼   ► by the time it gets to Mars and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:34 ◼   ► theory the civilization there will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:35 ◼   ► completely forgotten about earth until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:38 ◼   ► these guys drop out of the world even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:40 ◼   ► though they left at the same time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:42 ◼   ► the whole kind of deep time what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:43 ◼   ► means to play off of tens of hundreds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:47 ◼   ► thousands or millions of years and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:48 ◼   ► quickly it happens to the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50 ◼   ► in the bubble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:51 ◼   ► I mean what a great idea so it's two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:53 ◼   ► great ideas and ya novel can probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:55 ◼   ► suit subsist on one and he has to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:58 ◼   ► what like glitter and glam was saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1138">TS</a>]

00:18:59 ◼   ► about like this being kind of a pastiche [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:01 ◼   ► I mean I think that's you know what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:03 ◼   ► say that and I think well that's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:04 ◼   ► premise for a book right there like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06 ◼   ► know from the perspective of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:07 ◼   ► Martians who have like going along with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:09 ◼   ► their ordinary little life in a rocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:10 ◼   ► drops out of this guy hey remember us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:12 ◼   ► and but I think at the same time as part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:15 ◼   ► of the galaxy book for yeah I i argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:18 ◼   ► that they know every good for many good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:21 ◼   ► science fiction novels and novels and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:23 ◼   ► arts works in general all build on these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:25 ◼   ► things you know borrowed ideas from from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:27 ◼   ► what's gone before and I think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:28 ◼   ► and clearly in this case a lot of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:30 ◼   ► Maj you know by the by the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:33 ◼   ► vocal call outs two things like Ray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:35 ◼   ► Bradbury and and Robert Heinlein and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:37 ◼   ► that stuff so you know that's okay it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:40 ◼   ► okay Scott do you think it's okay i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:42 ◼   ► think it's okay and when i was reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:44 ◼   ► the the book spin the scene where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:48 ◼   ► they're sitting on the lawn and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:49 ◼   ► stars disappear reminded me very much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:52 ◼   ► aiesec asthma short story nightfall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:55 ◼   ► anyone yeah really yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:57 ◼   ► yes which is a fantastic story if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:59 ◼   ► haven't read it you should stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:01 ◼   ► listening to this and read it right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:02 ◼   ► yes should go back to your childhood and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:04 ◼   ► read it and then come back to exactly so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:07 ◼   ► the premises that this planet has sick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:08 ◼   ► sons and it's never experienced full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:11 ◼   ► darkness and through a confluence of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:13 ◼   ► things it's going to go through full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:15 ◼   ► darkness and what's gonna happen so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:16 ◼   ► don't know what happens at the ended the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:18 ◼   ► darkness comes and he leaves it up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:20 ◼   ► you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:20 ◼   ► although i think that they wrote a novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:22 ◼   ► version as well that's yes robert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:25 ◼   ► silverberg maybe I don't but I very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:27 ◼   ► doll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:28 ◼   ► well there goes the movie to the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:32 ◼   ► was also dull respectfully so that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:35 ◼   ► another prestigious came through my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:37 ◼   ► and I thought I agree with Jason I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:39 ◼   ► that the the two great ideas of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:41 ◼   ► kind of make up for the lackluster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:44 ◼   ► characters and the kind of disappointing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:46 ◼   ► ending although i haven't read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:48 ◼   ► second book so I don't know how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:50 ◼   ► more disappointing it can be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:52 ◼   ► mentioned a few people mention the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:53 ◼   ► Martian I think the Martians a a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:56 ◼   ► cool character this idea that we leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:57 ◼   ► we let me fire off these rockets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:59 ◼   ► then like a couple days later a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:01 ◼   ► comes back is the result of this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:02 ◼   ► civilization that's more advanced than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:04 ◼   ► hairs that is the result of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:06 ◼   ► Rockets being fired off and he's human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:08 ◼   ► but he's been on Mars for so long that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:10 ◼   ► he's a he's essentially an alien he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:13 ◼   ► looking at us with a with some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:16 ◼   ► amusement and detachment which I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:18 ◼   ► was a great bet you know the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:20 ◼   ► history of science fiction that he makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:22 ◼   ► sure and notes that he's infertile even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:23 ◼   ► though no sex occurs between him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:25 ◼   ► other people huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:27 ◼   ► but it is noted because we need to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:28 ◼   ► you know that's be set up for future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:29 ◼   ► books that the the two great ideas in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:32 ◼   ► this book and I think you're right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:33 ◼   ► are two great is the problem with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:35 ◼   ► ending is that neither of them time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:36 ◼   ► the ending they're both concluded by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:38 ◼   ► end of the book you might as well have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:39 ◼   ► just had this arch appear by magic for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:41 ◼   ► all the impact that the two great ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:43 ◼   ► are born out of here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:44 ◼   ► I mean you could have just had it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:46 ◼   ► other than having a MacGuffin where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:48 ◼   ► have to get somewhere in in the indian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:50 ◼   ► ocean you know there's no reason for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:52 ◼   ► at all it could be equal that's why it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:54 ◼   ► there has been goes right the spin goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:55 ◼   ► away and that's it and now you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:58 ◼   ► now the universe is ready for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1318">TS</a>]

00:21:59 ◼   ► well crap what happens next right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:01 ◼   ► that isn't the whole function of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:03 ◼   ► spin that they put your planet in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:05 ◼   ► spin and then they you get to a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:07 ◼   ► point they build these arches for you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:09 ◼   ► that you can expand your civilization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:11 ◼   ► because one yeah its resources won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:13 ◼   ► support you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:14 ◼   ► I think that's the idea but the spoon is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:16 ◼   ► magic and so the arch could be magic it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:17 ◼   ► could have just appeared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19 ◼   ► there's no one would argue there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:21 ◼   ► there's no reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:22 ◼   ► and for the spin except as a great idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:24 ◼   ► and by the conclusion of the book it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:26 ◼   ► goes away the book would have been much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:28 ◼   ► shorter if our kitchen yeah yeah i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:32 ◼   ► that is a disappointing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:34 ◼   ► interleaving plot would have been boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:35 ◼   ► if they were just pretty much waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:36 ◼   ► around to catch a bus against your new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:40 ◼   ► planet this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:41 ◼   ► number 18 in local though it will take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:43 ◼   ► several chapters they could call it roll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:45 ◼   ► will be a picaresque story if i recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:48 ◼   ► right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:49 ◼   ► Wow all the words today this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:53 ◼   ► a no your words i know you guys can read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:56 ◼   ► stop with the crazy words Scott we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:59 ◼   ► have you from it much longer do you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:00 ◼   ► anything more you'd like to share about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:01 ◼   ► about spin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:03 ◼   ► oh uh try to think I think we've covered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:06 ◼   ► a life of knows everybody knows uplands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:09 ◼   ► uplands there's another aerostats though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:12 ◼   ► they're not Zeppelin's but the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:13 ◼   ► that's floating the apps and low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:14 ◼   ► altitudes a whole region area of low of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:16 ◼   ► high-altitude balloon technology yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:18 ◼   ► because satellites can't exist so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:20 ◼   ► sort of Zeppelin ask yes and I do love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:23 ◼   ► the fact that so at some point these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:24 ◼   ► giant cube devices appear above the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:28 ◼   ► poles of the planet hiring in space just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:30 ◼   ► like bricks don't exactly know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:32 ◼   ► everyone's freaked out by them and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:34 ◼   ► Chinese decide well why don't we shoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:36 ◼   ► some nuclear weapons and see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:38 ◼   ► happens which I thought sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:41 ◼   ► something the Chinese government would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:42 ◼   ► do ya sites to that they actually there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:46 ◼   ► has been a bit i think that has one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:48 ◼   ► the best images of the book in that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:49 ◼   ► when the new kits the the qubit it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:53 ◼   ► the sphere transparent for a while and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:55 ◼   ► they can see the stars wheeling past it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:58 ◼   ► at the rate of hundreds of thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:00 ◼   ► years and that's when everybody freaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:02 ◼   ► out right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:03 ◼   ► I say oh god what's happening and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:05 ◼   ► they know that time is moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:06 ◼   ► differently although they get the hint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:08 ◼   ► from e-rock with us and there were the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:10 ◼   ► Soviet yeah this with the Russian the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:12 ◼   ► astronauts entrants who were up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:14 ◼   ► for several weeks and then they come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16 ◼   ► down and it was like no time had passed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:17 ◼   ► and it was like you're crazy Russia's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:20 ◼   ► that's right Luke well I guess two of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:22 ◼   ► them died and one survives using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:24 ◼   ► hospital and it's kind of a throwaway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:26 ◼   ► think I you know I this is not true but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:29 ◼   ► but i'll just say that when I'm reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:31 ◼   ► it I I just written a novel for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:34 ◼   ► first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:35 ◼   ► and i read this book and I thought you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:36 ◼   ► know anybody can write a hugo winner of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:40 ◼   ► this is hugo winner and i don't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:41 ◼   ► that in a mean way because the ideas are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:43 ◼   ► great but the characters that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:45 ◼   ► mean it and the character yeah okay it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:47 ◼   ► kind of mean the characters the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:48 ◼   ► character interaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:49 ◼   ► I you know it didn't didn't seem special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:53 ◼   ► it-it-it this is a book that really gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:56 ◼   ► carried i think by those big ideas and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:59 ◼   ► and I can see why you'd be disappointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:01 ◼   ► at the end because it's true they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:02 ◼   ► ideas are sort of played out at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:04 ◼   ► and then it sort of teasing you toward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:07 ◼   ► whatever the next thing in the series is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:09 ◼   ► going to be set in the universe but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:11 ◼   ► not a continuation of a previous story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:14 ◼   ► because that story is over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:15 ◼   ► come follow the characters you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:17 ◼   ► care about what and you know the Hugo's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:20 ◼   ► I don't think they base many of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:22 ◼   ► Hugo's on actual writing frankly not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:25 ◼   ► there are well-written Hugo or award [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:28 ◼   ► winners but one this and this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:30 ◼   ► particularly poorly written either i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:31 ◼   ► mean you know it's got he can turn a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:33 ◼   ► phrase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:34 ◼   ► I mean sure it's a poorly written I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:36 ◼   ► saying that it did it didn't strike me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:37 ◼   ► lot of these a lot of especially the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:39 ◼   ► hugo books but books in general reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:41 ◼   ► I don't think dang you know this person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:42 ◼   ► is a is really talented and and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:44 ◼   ► I don't know if I could ever hope to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:45 ◼   ► write something like that where span was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:47 ◼   ► like I know how this book it seemed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:49 ◼   ► me like I understood how it was put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:50 ◼   ► together the structure seems very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:51 ◼   ► straightforward the character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:52 ◼   ► interaction seemed really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:53 ◼   ► straightforward i could see i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:56 ◼   ► could sort of see how it was assembled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:57 ◼   ► and and that was kind of interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1557">TS</a>]

00:25:59 ◼   ► that that do this is a UH award-winning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:02 ◼   ► novel and yet it didn't it didn't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:04 ◼   ► like magic right i mean the balls and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:06 ◼   ► like maybe you're standing you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:08 ◼   ► standing will sort of next to a stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:09 ◼   ► for a magic show and you can sign it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:11 ◼   ► kind of see what's going on behind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:12 ◼   ► scenes but it still makes you appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:13 ◼   ► the another craft that's willing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:15 ◼   ► everybody else and it's the penn and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:18 ◼   ► teller of Hugo winners it has a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:20 ◼   ► things in common with this terms of hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:21 ◼   ► science we should talk about these this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:23 ◼   ► pair it actually violates the law of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:25 ◼   ► second book is always horrible the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:28 ◼   ► forges got forge of God anvil of stars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:30 ◼   ► by Greg bear so 20 was a 20-plus year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:33 ◼   ► old set of books and the second book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:35 ◼   ► involves I mean it's this thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:37 ◼   ► it's your first parent / scenario in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:39 ◼   ► second book huge amounts of like physics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:42 ◼   ► and science extremely well-written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:44 ◼   ► compelling characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:46 ◼   ► and it has i think there's a similar i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:48 ◼   ► was a bit of a similar feel like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:50 ◼   ► all but hey even like a more more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:53 ◼   ► happening service of the plot but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:55 ◼   ► I think it might be it could be fun to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:57 ◼   ► talk about those especially relation to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:58 ◼   ► the issue of like good writing strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:00 ◼   ► plot the first the two books a hugo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:02 ◼   ► winner right name happened I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:07 ◼   ► so I i looked up what the other ebooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:09 ◼   ► that spin was up against in the hugo the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11 ◼   ► 2006 Hugo's just because I was curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13 ◼   ► so its up against learning the world by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:16 ◼   ► chemical McLeod's which I can never just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18 ◼   ► loud cloud whatever he's good writer i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:21 ◼   ► haven't read learning the world up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:22 ◼   ► feast for crows by george RR martin ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:25 ◼   ► but accelerometer co-vice charles stross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:28 ◼   ► oh and old man's war by well London is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:34 ◼   ► always better i would prefer i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36 ◼   ► salty old man's war right now is better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:38 ◼   ► book event where is good book but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:41 ◼   ► think that i think that the Hugo's often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:44 ◼   ► you come up with the most original idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:45 ◼   ► and you when Hugo and i have to say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:48 ◼   ► the the time shifting between the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50 ◼   ► spin membrane and the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:52 ◼   ► universe in the whole colonizing Mars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:54 ◼   ► thing is a fantastic idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:57 ◼   ► I agree I agree any ideas personal line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1677">TS</a>]

00:28:01 ◼   ► right decor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:03 ◼   ► that's what I wanted at two ideas that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:04 ◼   ► the other books only had one that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:06 ◼   ► right account for the heroes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:12 ◼   ► so next up on the agenda is yet another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:18 ◼   ► hugo winner where what we're doing cutie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:20 ◼   ► winners today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:22 ◼   ► Hyperion by Dan Simmons which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:27 ◼   ► released in 1989 won the hugo in 1990 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:30 ◼   ► and uh i really i really like this i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:36 ◼   ► really like this book so is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38 ◼   ► anybody who doesn't love Hyperion except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40 ◼   ► for the last spoiler horn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:46 ◼   ► two words up I we were the last two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:52 ◼   ► organizations did that they don't there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:54 ◼   ► are more of them haha yeah i got my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:57 ◼   ► opinion is like I just remember this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:59 ◼   ► thing we're talking about this an email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:00 ◼   ► it's that the stories the story about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:02 ◼   ► the million monkeys where this rich man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:05 ◼   ► develops a computer system this is from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:07 ◼   ► back in the fifties that will create you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:09 ◼   ► know every piece of literature and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:11 ◼   ► produces this you know randomly and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:14 ◼   ► sort stuff out it produces the greatest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:15 ◼   ► story ever written except it's missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:17 ◼   ► the last chapter and he tries to hire a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:19 ◼   ► writer friend of his to to finish it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:22 ◼   ► I was like that is what I feel about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:23 ◼   ► with Hyperion is like the one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25 ◼   ► finest most beautiful science-fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27 ◼   ► novels that ever read I mean doing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:29 ◼   ► terrific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:30 ◼   ► hyperion i think is gorgeous sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:33 ◼   ► like the sparrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:34 ◼   ► oh yes which is its image again don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:37 ◼   ► read number two in the sparrow I've read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39 ◼   ► that is horrible but the Hyperion is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:42 ◼   ► such a beautiful lyrical book and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:44 ◼   ► tells so many different stories each of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:46 ◼   ► them as its own voice and tone your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:48 ◼   ► thinking who is this guy where did he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:50 ◼   ► come from how do you create all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:52 ◼   ► universes this you know all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:53 ◼   ► different planets interactions this it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:56 ◼   ► as if he is living in a parallel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:57 ◼   ► universe it so beautifully described and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1797">TS</a>]

00:30:00 ◼   ► then what came after is so hideous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:03 ◼   ► there's no i don't i don't agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:05 ◼   ► that now but let's let's start at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:06 ◼   ► beginning here Hyperion is structured in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:09 ◼   ► a way where there's a framing story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:11 ◼   ► which is these pilgrims going to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:12 ◼   ► time tombs on the planet of Hyperion and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:15 ◼   ► then in between they are telling their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:16 ◼   ► individual tails so i guess you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:19 ◼   ► liken it to something like lost its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:20 ◼   ► really much more like like The [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:23 ◼   ► Canterbury Tales where you've got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:25 ◼   ► individual tales of the pilgrims on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:26 ◼   ► their way that's sort of that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:28 ◼   ► concept really and it's a and a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:33 ◼   ► i think from the perspective of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:35 ◼   ► ending is that this book is about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:39 ◼   ► stories told by the people on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:40 ◼   ► journey to the time tombs and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:43 ◼   ► get there and that's the end right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:44 ◼   ► because that's not what this book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:46 ◼   ► about it's about it is in a way about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:48 ◼   ► the setup but it's also about the that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:50 ◼   ► you know learning who these people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:52 ◼   ► on this journey and as that it is cut it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:55 ◼   ► is brilliant and it is brilliantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:56 ◼   ► written it's not just a bunch of good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:58 ◼   ► ideas in this book is over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1858">TS</a>]

00:30:59 ◼   ► going with good ideas but it's really s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:02 ◼   ► Simmons is such a great writer and I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:03 ◼   ► actually read some others of his stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:05 ◼   ► before i read this but it's it's just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:08 ◼   ► wonderfully written in so many great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:09 ◼   ► ideas but the ending has the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:11 ◼   ► opposite problem of spin is rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:13 ◼   ► being wound down and disinterested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:16 ◼   ► the character huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:17 ◼   ► you are incredibly wound up really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:19 ◼   ► interested in the characters and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:21 ◼   ► ends there's nowhere to go it's in rate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:24 ◼   ► I wanted to throw the book across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:25 ◼   ► room I kept saying he can't resolve this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27 ◼   ► in the next three pages he can't resolve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:28 ◼   ► that the next two pages he didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:30 ◼   ► resolve it the following the Aryan is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:32 ◼   ► how it was resolved i am actually angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:35 ◼   ► thinking about it it was a beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:36 ◼   ► book and I loved reading it and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:38 ◼   ► from the very beginning just the number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:41 ◼   ► and amount of ideas the pre story the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:44 ◼   ► first one that gets told is riveting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:46 ◼   ► all the way through and then you get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:48 ◼   ► the end and it you're you're suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:49 ◼   ► wily coyote hanging over the cliff with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51 ◼   ► a little yipeeeeee sign nowhere to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:54 ◼   ► but down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56 ◼   ► well or or you can read the sequel which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:59 ◼   ► glenwood tell you this is a book you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:01 ◼   ► have to stand alone object that should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:03 ◼   ► be next should have you had a new law [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:05 ◼   ► that assessment Simmons does this too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:07 ◼   ► because i read a book of his called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:08 ◼   ► ileum and yeah i think that I got to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:10 ◼   ► end it turned out it was two books it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:12 ◼   ► was one book split into two you get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14 ◼   ► the end of ilium and it's like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:16 ◼   ► you're not even at the anti-venom all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:18 ◼   ► you're like you're like and the battle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:20 ◼   ► begun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:21 ◼   ► we-well wait what the yeah and I i gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:23 ◼   ► say i have not read anything by him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:26 ◼   ► sense because i was so turned off by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:28 ◼   ► that approach and yet i did read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:30 ◼   ► Hyperion Books you go into lord of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:31 ◼   ► rings and you know what you're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:33 ◼   ► into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:34 ◼   ► yeah I think I think I knew that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:36 ◼   ► Hyperion was a to was a to at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:38 ◼   ► to book series and I was gonna probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:41 ◼   ► have to read the second i went i wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:43 ◼   ► i wanted to the i went to the broke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:44 ◼   ► cycle knowing what I was getting into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:46 ◼   ► and that I say you know a years-long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:47 ◼   ► investment in time I i read Lord of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:50 ◼   ► Rings and I don't know what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:51 ◼   ► after photo gets the ring it all turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:53 ◼   ► out well though right yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:55 ◼   ► everybody's happy like i was wearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:57 ◼   ► tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:57 ◼   ► rivendell and then wait a minute photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:59 ◼   ► gets the ring woods boiler horn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:02 ◼   ► yeah well I think I mean I PS contains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:05 ◼   ► spoilers Lord of the Rings it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:09 ◼   ► Arthur bruised his jaw so Simmons you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:12 ◼   ► know it is this it's the far future and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14 ◼   ► they're they're always throw in ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:15 ◼   ► like the all thing which is this like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:18 ◼   ► collaboration of mines and of artificial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:20 ◼   ► intelligences and and they've got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:22 ◼   ► farcaster portals which let you step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:24 ◼   ► through from one place to another which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:26 ◼   ► leads to the natural naturally the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:29 ◼   ► super-rich would have a have houses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:31 ◼   ► where each room was on a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33 ◼   ► planet that is far Kelly awesome that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:36 ◼   ► there would be a river that runs across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:38 ◼   ► multiple planets and through portals and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:41 ◼   ► we'll take boats down the river how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43 ◼   ► crazy is that you have to say like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:45 ◼   ► of Simmons is great abilities like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:47 ◼   ► can be incredibly self-indulgent writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49 ◼   ► and some of his writing I cannot stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:50 ◼   ► is soaked lying and do that but like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:53 ◼   ► best of it is he has you know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:56 ◼   ► actually know exactly as background but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:59 ◼   ► he must have been a classicist or he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:00 ◼   ► read everything written before you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:03 ◼   ► the year 500 CEO because his command of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:07 ◼   ► the past is so extraordinary and he can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:09 ◼   ► transmute that into both the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11 ◼   ► within the novel being aware of the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:13 ◼   ► that the stuff they're living through is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:15 ◼   ► an allusion to the past they create the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:16 ◼   ► river toughest because they call it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:18 ◼   ► this not because they forgot what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20 ◼   ► means will because that's what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:21 ◼   ► remember but you still get that ringing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:23 ◼   ► of like you know Plato in there as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25 ◼   ► I felt like Hyperion was like a at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:28 ◼   ► final exam for a liberal arts education [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:30 ◼   ► it every once in while you say hey I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:33 ◼   ► know what that means i get that reaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:34 ◼   ► when i was when i was in school i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:36 ◼   ► like my second year of college some pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:39 ◼   ► hipster thuy band came out with an album [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:41 ◼   ► called cloud cuckoo-land and I got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:44 ◼   ► reference to Aristophanes the birds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:46 ◼   ► I felt like my entire education had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:48 ◼   ► justified at that point because I got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:50 ◼   ► pop culture reference that eluded to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:52 ◼   ► classical education from some band but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:55 ◼   ► never sides in the where they know file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:56 ◼   ► yeah where are they now file and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:58 ◼   ► that's how I felt really high period may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2098">TS</a>]

00:34:59 ◼   ► have gotten one in ten references but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:01 ◼   ► felt incredibly smug everyday it's john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:03 ◼   ► keats he becomes a major character in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:07 ◼   ► the sequel by the way John Key is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:09 ◼   ► pretty major character in this one too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:10 ◼   ► well I suppose he is he's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:12 ◼   ► viewpoint characters sequel which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:14 ◼   ► strange but disciple and then in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:17 ◼   ► Shrike the Shrike is probably like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:20 ◼   ► tree of pain and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:21 ◼   ► it was around and the Shrike I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:24 ◼   ► again with the eye again with the ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:26 ◼   ► so not only is Hyperion really a set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:28 ◼   ► really strong novellas I mean they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:30 ◼   ► they're more than short stories so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32 ◼   ► like a series of novellas with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:34 ◼   ► incredibly strong backbone but you also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:36 ◼   ► have this idea all the ideas and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:37 ◼   ► Shrike is I think of across all four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:41 ◼   ► books even though i really hated them as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:43 ◼   ► in crippling the series further and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:45 ◼   ► further its form looks yeah they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:47 ◼   ► to drink a lot of Hyperion Endymion and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:49 ◼   ► rise i'm not going to read any of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:51 ◼   ► out of spite of you I well actually I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:53 ◼   ► think you might like the fall of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:54 ◼   ► hyperion I liked it and it's guys have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:56 ◼   ► an ending it is not horrible the fall of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:58 ◼   ► Hyperion is fine but it's Endymion and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:00 ◼   ► rise and Damien feel like feeble-minded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:02 ◼   ► sequels written by someone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:05 ◼   ► compared to the narrative richness of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:06 ◼   ► the first book but you're right a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:08 ◼   ► those six not the six essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10 ◼   ► novellas the six tails of the six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:11 ◼   ► characters in that in the book including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:14 ◼   ► one that we actually i had already read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:15 ◼   ► and what was an award-winning novell I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:17 ◼   ► believe all I free remembering serie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:19 ◼   ► great great stuff and then and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:24 ◼   ► you've got this journey to the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:26 ◼   ► tombs and the Shrike and a strike is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:27 ◼   ► this mythical but not mythical character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:30 ◼   ► who appears and and kills you except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:33 ◼   ► when he doesn't and the time tombs are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:36 ◼   ► one of the things that I really love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38 ◼   ► about this is the time tombs are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40 ◼   ► unknown structure from the future that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:43 ◼   ► is passing backward in time and then at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:45 ◼   ► some point in the past they will open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:47 ◼   ► contain and they contain things from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:50 ◼   ► future which is just as real head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:51 ◼   ► spinner of an idea that you're watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:53 ◼   ► an object that's traveling backward in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:56 ◼   ► time is a little like a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:57 ◼   ► happen there's a book called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:59 ◼   ► chronoliths by that by robert charles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:02 ◼   ► wilson to its been i think i think maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:04 ◼   ► it is where it's the same thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:06 ◼   ► you kind of turn your head you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:07 ◼   ► oh this is from the future and now has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09 ◼   ► come back to the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:11 ◼   ► it is like a head scratcher yeah I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:14 ◼   ► everybody make it used is it a visit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:16 ◼   ► weapon your it's unclear who's in charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:18 ◼   ► of the universe you know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:19 ◼   ► uncommon making my snuggle sandwich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:21 ◼   ► references as my wife but you know in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:24 ◼   ► the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:25 ◼   ► universe there actually is a guy in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:27 ◼   ► charge of the galaxy and you meet him at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:28 ◼   ► one point is very is very amusing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:31 ◼   ► not quite what you'd expect in here it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:33 ◼   ► like you know there are eventually I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:35 ◼   ► remember how far is that series of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:37 ◼   ► novels you understand that there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:38 ◼   ► vast powers at work that it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:40 ◼   ► local phenomenon a galaxy found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:42 ◼   ► something that's almost fundamental to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:45 ◼   ► nature itself there's a fight at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:48 ◼   ► of the universe and that's actually if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50 ◼   ► can talk about this little dudes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:51 ◼   ► double spoiler alerts they're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:54 ◼   ► problem with the Hyperion payer and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:57 ◼   ► Endymion pair and that you can read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:59 ◼   ► anywhere you read about Endymion is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:02 ◼   ► he writes the history of red Hyperion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:04 ◼   ► you read fall of Hyperion and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:06 ◼   ► self-contained set of stories then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:08 ◼   ► jump 200-something years in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:09 ◼   ► and it's like a whole other ball of wax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:12 ◼   ► and that thing you read in Hyperion it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:13 ◼   ► was so beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:14 ◼   ► well it wasn't really like that in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16 ◼   ► physical description that's in the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:17 ◼   ► that physical description was wrong but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:19 ◼   ► you can't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:21 ◼   ► I understand he wanted to change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:22 ◼   ► narrative but you can't say something in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:24 ◼   ► Hyperion that someone physically saw is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:27 ◼   ► now described differently i'm like i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:30 ◼   ► pick up the other book and read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:31 ◼   ► description is the book telling me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:33 ◼   ► other copy of the physical book in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:34 ◼   ► reality is wrong so that it's i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:37 ◼   ► just say well it's kinda like back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:38 ◼   ► the future to think I i don't disagree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:41 ◼   ► with a go back over it and like wait a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:43 ◼   ► second that's not exactly what I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:45 ◼   ► get the reward but I don't think see I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:47 ◼   ► gonna argue though and this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:48 ◼   ► recurring theme about sequels letting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:50 ◼   ► you down that it doesn't change how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:52 ◼   ► great this book is no and I think if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:55 ◼   ► go in knowing that it that it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:57 ◼   ► really have an ending in that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2337">TS</a>]

00:38:58 ◼   ► another book required to resolve the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:00 ◼   ► tales of the of the people it is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:04 ◼   ► ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:05 ◼   ► Greg I mean when you agree absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:06 ◼   ► unquestionably it's a terrific book I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:09 ◼   ► just wish there was another chapter we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:11 ◼   ► we shouldn't ones that are not a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:13 ◼   ► other book not three months just one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:14 ◼   ► more chapter to finish the freakin story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:17 ◼   ► that i started we should set up a list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19 ◼   ► of ultimately start developing a list of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:21 ◼   ► the books like the great not just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:23 ◼   ► greatest you know sci-fi which is hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25 ◼   ► to categorize but it's like you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:27 ◼   ► sparrow Hyperion and dune everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:29 ◼   ► should read them if they're interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:30 ◼   ► in sci-fi in the least are trying to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:32 ◼   ► into it like these three books are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:33 ◼   ► introduction to different aspects of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:36 ◼   ► sci-fi and they're fantastically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:38 ◼   ► interesting to read that's actually how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:40 ◼   ► I read Hyperion dune is some friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42 ◼   ► were appalled that I haven't read them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:43 ◼   ► and so they walked me through the hugo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:45 ◼   ► list instead circle them said this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:47 ◼   ► this one this one this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:48 ◼   ► I've been reading science fiction my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:49 ◼   ► whole life and I hadn't read some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:51 ◼   ► you know towering classics of the genre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:54 ◼   ► here's my review of dune it picks up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:58 ◼   ► after the after the first 200 pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:00 ◼   ► starts good at a dozen going to 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:04 ◼   ► minutes but in the desert yeah once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:06 ◼   ► using the desert it's a whole different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:07 ◼   ► book sure end of Barrow very Doria [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:09 ◼   ► wrestles the sparrow which we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:11 ◼   ► talk about it some point is it is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:12 ◼   ► the best book I've ever read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:15 ◼   ► however I will say that I think the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:16 ◼   ► hundred pages of it feels like she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:18 ◼   ► realized she needed to finish and get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:20 ◼   ► to a publisher and a lot of her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:22 ◼   ► description and detailed drops out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:24 ◼   ► it becomes about about plot resolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:26 ◼   ► yet but doesn't change the fact that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28 ◼   ► love that book it is a hit endings are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:30 ◼   ► talkin i mean III never look any further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32 ◼   ► than a real Stephenson is one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:34 ◼   ► favorite writers yeah it's very early a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:36 ◼   ► it seemed to have some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:38 ◼   ► congenital ending problem wishes kiddo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:41 ◼   ► crash he said that he right on the hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:44 ◼   ► he said that yeah I don't write I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:47 ◼   ► competent enough writer to write the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:48 ◼   ► ending i intend I wanted him that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:50 ◼   ► he's wrong about that one work then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:52 ◼   ► exactly yeah i mean snow crash is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:54 ◼   ► fantastic weekend i think one of the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:56 ◼   ► of the best books in the last you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:58 ◼   ► 30 years but it's just yes that it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:02 ◼   ► great it's great all the way up until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:04 ◼   ► about like the last chapter and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:06 ◼   ► just like wait what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:07 ◼   ► it's over soon okay chase giant screens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:10 ◼   ► vital organs destruction of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:12 ◼   ► government helicopter chase mafia zodiac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:14 ◼   ► is the only book he's ever written that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:16 ◼   ► is actually a coherent story with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:18 ◼   ► beginning a middle and an end in sight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:19 ◼   ► and I've ever do that if you take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:21 ◼   ► entire baroque cycle from beginning to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:23 ◼   ► finish that it takes one giant story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:25 ◼   ► which actually has a pretty decent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:27 ◼   ► ending it talk about taking 200 pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:29 ◼   ► 400 500 pages to get going i loved it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:31 ◼   ► you gotta warm up with three guys on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:33 ◼   ► Twitter page novel to get to the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:35 ◼   ► I've tried twice to start it and I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:37 ◼   ► failed i got a little for the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:39 ◼   ► time it's worth it's like absolutely i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:41 ◼   ► got to be so the undersea and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:43 ◼   ► all right I don't know what it is worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:45 ◼   ► that I love that I and i also love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:47 ◼   ► fact that I'm more sure to hook you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49 ◼   ► hook you he said he says you know early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:51 ◼   ► on I'm gonna have a big pirate battle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:54 ◼   ► and then there's like not that it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:56 ◼   ► nothing to do with basically the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58 ◼   ► the book but you know he throws it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2518">TS</a>]

00:41:59 ◼   ► the beginning to get you hooked a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:01 ◼   ► minutes a oh I'll ride for 3,000 pages I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:04 ◼   ► really dragged out and I was 405 ok now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:06 ◼   ► we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:07 ◼   ► yeah like two takes that long it takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:09 ◼   ► at least halfway through the first look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:11 ◼   ► there I was just like okay now we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:13 ◼   ► getting to it and then the second book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:14 ◼   ► is fantastic i thought my favorite of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:16 ◼   ► the entire series but yeah I fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:18 ◼   ► went numb and in the ice storm swept in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:20 ◼   ► and i just had to climb back down I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:22 ◼   ► couldn't do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:22 ◼   ► I i well knowing that there's 3,000 at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:25 ◼   ► least you knew there were 3,000 pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:26 ◼   ► but we got to the end of this story as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:28 ◼   ► opposed to something like Hyperion where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:29 ◼   ► you know you don't know that going in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:32 ◼   ► hurry and it can be kind of upsetting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:33 ◼   ► and it's nice if you're really desperate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:35 ◼   ► for something to read and you're like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:36 ◼   ► there's a drought of books coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:37 ◼   ► that I want to do something you just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:39 ◼   ► just sink yourself in that that's how i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:41 ◼   ► feel about that about the george RR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:42 ◼   ► martin I've got that look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:44 ◼   ► fourth book or whatever it is in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:45 ◼   ► series and I'm just that still salted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:47 ◼   ► away for a lean time because i know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:49 ◼   ► it's gonna be forever before regrets the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:51 ◼   ► next one oh yeah and the best part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53 ◼   ► that is you'll have to read the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:54 ◼   ► three before you can even read that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:55 ◼   ► you remember what happened doing these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:57 ◼   ► people again and and it's funny talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2577">TS</a>]

00:42:59 ◼   ► about Stephenson we may not get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:00 ◼   ► Michael shape on today I don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02 ◼   ► mean neal stephenson I I think zodiac is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04 ◼   ► a really good thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:06 ◼   ► Greg mentioned it that I i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:08 ◼   ► holds together and I think it's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:09 ◼   ► good piece of work and i really like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:11 ◼   ► diamond age actually i'm not sure i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:14 ◼   ► think snow crash the first half of snow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:15 ◼   ► crash is great but then I feel like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17 ◼   ► kinda repeats itself until it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:19 ◼   ► record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:21 ◼   ► really you know sort of skipping it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:22 ◼   ► until it's somebody listen up the needle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:24 ◼   ► at the end to you know the first half is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:26 ◼   ► great and then it kind of falls apart I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:28 ◼   ► wouldn't dug up the big you his first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:29 ◼   ► book and they're amusing scenes but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:31 ◼   ► it's not worth going to find acceptable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:33 ◼   ► with a brain surgery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:35 ◼   ► it's the one that is likely candidate no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:37 ◼   ► no that that was the one written under a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:39 ◼   ► pseudonym that came later and I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:41 ◼   ► what's called think the student named [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:42 ◼   ► off top even break hehe yeah the the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:45 ◼   ► you is written under his name but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:47 ◼   ► something he wrote in college and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:49 ◼   ► satire / parody of of like a mill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:53 ◼   ► college where the it's a like an office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:55 ◼   ► block that the college takes place in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:58 ◼   ► its just one giant building and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:01 ◼   ► were some nice scenes in there were some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:02 ◼   ► really great scenes but on the whole it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:04 ◼   ► was just a big mass zodiac is the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:07 ◼   ► where I i read zodiac after snow crash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:08 ◼   ► and I said wow this is great and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:10 ◼   ► you know setting the present day in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:12 ◼   ► boston and there's a guy with a red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:14 ◼   ► after nice the eco spiderman spiderman i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:17 ◼   ► also learned I learned what to do if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:19 ◼   ► get pc people arity pcp poisoning no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:22 ◼   ► uh-uh shukaku charcoal if you swallow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:26 ◼   ► Germany PCP is not the polygonal port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:29 ◼   ► but know that we see what's there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:32 ◼   ► pollution and the individual dust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:34 ◼   ► yeah maybe right we're just gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:36 ◼   ► along in the book it's pcbs PCB and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:40 ◼   ► chew carpet charcoal which later turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:41 ◼   ► out he was with the accuracy and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:43 ◼   ► learned a valuable life skill from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:45 ◼   ► book if you have if you hadn't talked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:47 ◼   ► create ways you can eat some charcoal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:48 ◼   ► thank you tell you can tell by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:50 ◼   ► backend charcoal charcoal is tasty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:53 ◼   ► alright so we talk about the image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:55 ◼   ► policemen's union woman new yeah I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:57 ◼   ► refresh my memory on it which is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2697">TS</a>]

00:45:00 ◼   ► about honestly say i'm reading whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:02 ◼   ► you make a peanut you can use it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:03 ◼   ► couple years ago when i read it but I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:05 ◼   ► loved it when i read it it was one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:06 ◼   ► favorite books that you're actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:08 ◼   ► recommended to my dad i recommend a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:09 ◼   ► of books to my dad but as he's Jewish i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:12 ◼   ► thought he and in like sort of you re [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:14 ◼   ► stuff I thought he would get a kick out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:16 ◼   ► of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:16 ◼   ► yeah so it's and it's it's it 11 Hugo it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:21 ◼   ► is a an alt history story which is why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:26 ◼   ► think it qualifies set in late forties I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:31 ◼   ► believe her early not notice it's is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:34 ◼   ► no it's later no it's uh it's modern age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:36 ◼   ► is elimination day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:38 ◼   ► yeah this is a vergence period is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:40 ◼   ► early forties that's really growing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:42 ◼   ► changes right they create a place for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:44 ◼   ► all the Jews in the world to go because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:46 ◼   ► Israel is doesn't work is destroyed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:50 ◼   ► so they all end up in Sitka Alaska and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:52 ◼   ► it's 50 years later and there's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:54 ◼   ► these like Hong Kong with a hundred-year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:55 ◼   ► least there's a 50-year lease on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57 ◼   ► space the space is about to be vacated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2757">TS</a>]

00:46:01 ◼   ► which means that all the Jews in Sitka [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:02 ◼   ► are having to find somewhere else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:04 ◼   ► somewhere else in the world it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:06 ◼   ► a new diaspora and in this there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:09 ◼   ► murder mystery that's told from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:11 ◼   ► perspective of the policeman who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:14 ◼   ► working in the last days of this Jewish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:17 ◼   ► enclaves existence if you got to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:20 ◼   ► Shamus if you've got a murder mystery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:22 ◼   ► you got you got you got to have it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:24 ◼   ► there's mysticism in it too so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:26 ◼   ► just the old history there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:27 ◼   ► the whole idea of a mystical kind of but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:32 ◼   ► it's just such a well-done homage to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:36 ◼   ► know youryour Raymond Chandler Dashiell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:38 ◼   ► and Hammett style detective novels oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:42 ◼   ► yeah it's 24 tits or LLL construct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:45 ◼   ► hard-boiled detective story except that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:47 ◼   ► it's got this quacky alt universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:51 ◼   ► setting right which is that I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:55 ◼   ► the fact that the you know one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:57 ◼   ► best writers in the English language is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2817">TS</a>]

00:47:00 ◼   ► playing in John was like this delight me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:02 ◼   ► to no end that he he is he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:05 ◼   ► you know you put him on the list he is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:07 ◼   ► would fight to the end of the earth to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:09 ◼   ► say that Michael Chabon is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:10 ◼   ► best writers period in the English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:12 ◼   ► language if not be besties in the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:14 ◼   ► five or ten and he writes young adult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:17 ◼   ► and sci-fi and think I'm gonna handle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:20 ◼   ► even and comic books and things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:21 ◼   ► kind of asked you and mashing up John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:23 ◼   ► Roos and then doing amazing man won a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:25 ◼   ► Pulitzer to ya for kept for Kavalier and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:27 ◼   ► clay would use this is fantastic but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:30 ◼   ► has the same capital and clay has this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:31 ◼   ► thing that it stung me when I read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:33 ◼   ► and it it also stunned me in English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:35 ◼   ► policemen is uh he's not writing as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:38 ◼   ► magical realism is running fully in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:40 ◼   ► alternative world that it creates a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:41 ◼   ► realistically defined world that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:44 ◼   ► parallels real development scattering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:46 ◼   ► clay it's you know it's a comic but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:48 ◼   ► a different duh set of which comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:52 ◼   ► heroes became big right instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:54 ◼   ► Superman it's the escapist and writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:56 ◼   ► that book there's a scene that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:57 ◼   ► remember a time it wasn't showing that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2877">TS</a>]

00:48:00 ◼   ► was just so stunned by it because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:02 ◼   ► reading along and he goes to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:03 ◼   ► cemetery and is trying to essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:05 ◼   ► commune with his stead have been sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:07 ◼   ► our main character whatever main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:08 ◼   ► characters turkey with is the dead music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:11 ◼   ► magician who trained him and he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:13 ◼   ► he's not going to show up he's not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:14 ◼   ► to show up and he didn't show up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:15 ◼   ► then he turns around there is and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:17 ◼   ► like oh wow he just want to just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:18 ◼   ► there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:19 ◼   ► he took me out of this be no it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:21 ◼   ► easter said we're in the real world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:22 ◼   ► people die and there's nothing else and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:25 ◼   ► then over here is the ghost and the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:27 ◼   ► thing use policeman where you're you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:28 ◼   ► sort of like this guy is not the Machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:30 ◼   ► he's not the Messiah this is all sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:33 ◼   ► fever dream and and all you know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:36 ◼   ► all these political plans and all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:38 ◼   ► other stuff going on like oh my goodness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:40 ◼   ► gracious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:41 ◼   ► he is perhaps you may be less i am maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:43 ◼   ► but he has the the scene when he when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:47 ◼   ► the wife of the of the rabbi of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:50 ◼   ► litter alli is recounting to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:55 ◼   ► detective that you know how our son [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:57 ◼   ► visited her right and the son who is may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2937">TS</a>]

00:49:00 ◼   ► or may not be the Messiah is able to eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:02 ◼   ► she thinks he's overweight woman and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:04 ◼   ► looks at him again and realizes that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:06 ◼   ► has no he just made her perceived that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:07 ◼   ► and you like what what is that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:09 ◼   ► you know a godlike power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:11 ◼   ► what is his role in Redemption and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:14 ◼   ► it's just it just breaks you out of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:15 ◼   ► hole you know realistic all history into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:17 ◼   ► something that's like magical realism it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:20 ◼   ► isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:20 ◼   ► Wow and that's the end of that seems the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:25 ◼   ► podcast looks like everyone's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:28 ◼   ► wrapped it right now you have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:30 ◼   ► moment where you bought into the premise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:31 ◼   ► and said this is a wacky premise but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33 ◼   ► it's being held [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:34 ◼   ► it's being handled in a real-world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:36 ◼   ► certain way and then there's that twist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:38 ◼   ► where he says ah but what if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:41 ◼   ► right and this guy is was is the Messiah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:44 ◼   ► and uh it's like the end of Miracle on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:46 ◼   ► thirty-fourth Street and the red calf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:48 ◼   ► has been born because there's a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:51 ◼   ► thing about the breeding the cows to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:53 ◼   ► the red calf that's truly have a redcap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:55 ◼   ► you know that's really good yet know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57 ◼   ► that you know I know it's kit comes up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:59 ◼   ► in the goddamn spirit as well there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:01 ◼   ► meme the red heifer must be bored the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:04 ◼   ► red heifer the red heifer in in hyper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:07 ◼   ► like nothing amusing that there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:10 ◼   ► messiah but not until Endymion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:12 ◼   ► ah but you know shape on the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:16 ◼   ► are great you do have that cannot neared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:19 ◼   ► well the pop and his partner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:24 ◼   ► I mean he's literally you know every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:26 ◼   ► private I you know from hardwell crime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:29 ◼   ► fiction right yeah he's got the ex-wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:31 ◼   ► and you know he's got you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:34 ◼   ► partner drinking problem drinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:36 ◼   ► problem chest problems got a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:38 ◼   ► chest problem huh what's got his court [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:40 ◼   ► right like every every detective always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:42 ◼   ► has there there's their little quirk and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44 ◼   ► i love i love how well that ship on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:47 ◼   ► sort of mixes the the language that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:50 ◼   ► uses in like the the the terminology in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:53 ◼   ► the vocab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:53 ◼   ► very mixing finish with in such a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:57 ◼   ► that it's so seamlessly comes off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3057">TS</a>]

00:50:59 ◼   ► sounding like hard-boiled detective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:02 ◼   ► speak right in the same way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:04 ◼   ► might call it on like a heater or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:05 ◼   ► something like it's a kind of all bleeds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:08 ◼   ► together in it totally works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:10 ◼   ► I just found that it so well done and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:13 ◼   ► engrossing in the way that he just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:15 ◼   ► know this is what would happen if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:17 ◼   ► had put all these that's very clunky an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:19 ◼   ► orange people like that in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:22 ◼   ► yeah and there's I mean it that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:24 ◼   ► comparison with the the whole you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:27 ◼   ► substituting sort of instead of the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:30 ◼   ► Jews having to deal with the a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:32 ◼   ► Palestinians who are their they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34 ◼   ► sharing this land with the Native [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36 ◼   ► Americans yielding all sorts of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:39 ◼   ► obviously parallel disputes and and sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:43 ◼   ► of interesting meshing of the the native [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:45 ◼   ► religion and Judaism and all these these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:48 ◼   ► conflicts and anyway you know and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:50 ◼   ► want the land and so does the American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:51 ◼   ► government right right is reminded of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:53 ◼   ► interesting things about the setting is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:55 ◼   ► that the the US government is basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:57 ◼   ► said it's funny because of course we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:59 ◼   ► have a US government that's a supporter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:02 ◼   ► of Israel and has been since it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:04 ◼   ► founded and in this novel the US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:06 ◼   ► government is basically telling all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:08 ◼   ► Jews on its soil get beat it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:09 ◼   ► we're done with you get you know it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:11 ◼   ► very stark contrast and the end you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:15 ◼   ► everybody's afraid of being left behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:17 ◼   ► and being essentially stateless which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:20 ◼   ► you know crazy but that's the situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:22 ◼   ► that they're in it such a contrast yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:27 ◼   ► it's me it's a great term as you get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:28 ◼   ► right about that you gotta write about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:29 ◼   ► at some level like the Palestinians or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:32 ◼   ► stateless people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:34 ◼   ► yeah but you know with this sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:35 ◼   ► unfamiliar place in the Jews to create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:37 ◼   ► Israel what things to the Jewish people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:39 ◼   ► are the Disraeli styling pioneers what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:42 ◼   ► did they do to make their state and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44 ◼   ► this case they were totally powerless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:46 ◼   ► like here's the notes godforsaken place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:48 ◼   ► the frozen north and and you know make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:51 ◼   ► something of it which they do for 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:53 ◼   ► years and then then get out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:54 ◼   ► mu mu nu no no more red how not the half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3174">TS</a>]

00:53:03 ◼   ► are not the half four different new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:05 ◼   ► alright we're communing with our with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:07 ◼   ► our Judaism apparently if you say so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:10 ◼   ► I'll run that by my wife Paula mentions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:13 ◼   ► written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:14 ◼   ► ah yes now you're speaking German prison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:17 ◼   ► or is it a little a little a little of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:20 ◼   ► both you can talk one way you can talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:21 ◼   ► to the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:22 ◼   ► alright Michael Chabon I'll throw it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:26 ◼   ► their Road up young adult novel in 2002 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:29 ◼   ► called Summerland which is fantastic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:31 ◼   ► features a fairyland where the fairies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:34 ◼   ► all play baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:35 ◼   ► it's always summer time and it is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:37 ◼   ► rotate a strange little book called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:40 ◼   ► applicable final solution about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:43 ◼   ► basically a detective a retired older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:47 ◼   ► detective who may be familiar if you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:48 ◼   ► read a lot of detective fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:50 ◼   ► uh-huh and he wrote he wrote a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:53 ◼   ► novel called gentlemen of the road world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:56 ◼   ► as we truly believe he said he's working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:58 ◼   ► title with something like jews in Asia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:00 ◼   ► and basically an accident it its attack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:03 ◼   ► or a ski is an action book and they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:05 ◼   ► got swords and they fight and they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:07 ◼   ► you think they're gonna die and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:08 ◼   ► they don't die and you think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:09 ◼   ► gonna die and they don't die and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:11 ◼   ► it's hugely fun I mean that's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:14 ◼   ► about this guy is is his books are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16 ◼   ► snoozes they are they're all really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:20 ◼   ► so you know I i actually just read his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:23 ◼   ► up essay collection manhood for amateurs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:25 ◼   ► and and that was great too so he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:27 ◼   ► he's one of my favorites and if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:30 ◼   ► going to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:31 ◼   ► I mean I guess you start with this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:32 ◼   ► and you start with the Amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:34 ◼   ► Adventures of Kavalier and clay which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:36 ◼   ► you won the Pulitzer for which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:37 ◼   ► terrific masterwork of a book a parallel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:41 ◼   ► book to that by the way is Carter beats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:44 ◼   ► the devil out nearly the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:46 ◼   ► finish tonight right that totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:48 ◼   ► underrated book and there are many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:49 ◼   ► things in common I think they're written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:51 ◼   ► almost the same you know the same here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:53 ◼   ► as Kavalier and clay but very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:55 ◼   ► underrated book again again with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:57 ◼   ► magical realism a little bit of it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:59 ◼   ► know a little goes a long way and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:01 ◼   ► a Glen David gold that's right that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:04 ◼   ► rather that I have a copy that i picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:05 ◼   ► this one of the ones i picked up just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:07 ◼   ► off a whim you know looking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:08 ◼   ► bookshelf and now you know i was at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10 ◼   ► point had like magicians was a very big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:13 ◼   ► interest of mine and and it looked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:15 ◼   ► has great you know cover and sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:17 ◼   ► this old-timey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:18 ◼   ► Houdini era poster it's just I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:22 ◼   ► know it's something about it intrigued [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:23 ◼   ► me and I picked it up and read it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:25 ◼   ► women and it was fantastic i would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:27 ◼   ► the two you can pick a better claim one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:28 ◼   ► hand car beats the devil on the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:30 ◼   ► and the very next books to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:32 ◼   ► back-to-back they're very similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:33 ◼   ► fundamental nature of the different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:36 ◼   ► writing styles both incredibly good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:38 ◼   ► reads all right I that's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:41 ◼   ► transition for me to ask you anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:43 ◼   ► that you've been reading or that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:45 ◼   ► would like to recommend a massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:47 ◼   ► incomparable list listening audience I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:49 ◼   ► keep putting books down I never do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:51 ◼   ► and I've been reading books at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:52 ◼   ► suggestion of people on Twitter and on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:54 ◼   ► this podcast and I got put down week i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:56 ◼   ► could not proceed through weekend was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:59 ◼   ► infamous for something no info quick i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:01 ◼   ► have now you know like I've got but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:03 ◼   ► haven't read way to come by robert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:04 ◼   ► sawyer i mentioned that was a hugo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:06 ◼   ► nominee and that's the blind as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:08 ◼   ► blind girl right with the emergent yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:10 ◼   ► internet I having trouble with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:12 ◼   ► windup girl to I'm partway into that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:13 ◼   ► I know we talked about that before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:15 ◼   ► it's very it's good it's very difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:17 ◼   ► time finding it's such a it's that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:20 ◼   ► the parts of snow crash or like the era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:22 ◼   ► the diamond age like this is well where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:23 ◼   ► there's parts that are so unpleasant and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:25 ◼   ► gritty actually parts of the girl with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:27 ◼   ► the dragon tattoo same thing it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:29 ◼   ► you're like man if I can get through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:30 ◼   ► this part maybe I could read more of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:32 ◼   ► but i'm not sure i have the wherewithal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:33 ◼   ► to like get through all this incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:35 ◼   ► gritty dirty sweaty awfulness but i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:38 ◼   ► try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:39 ◼   ► alright Dan i just read spin some kept i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:46 ◼   ► can't recommend this book enough but I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:49 ◼   ► just bought a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:51 ◼   ► um I know it's exciting i don't usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:54 ◼   ► buys i usually get stuff out the library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:56 ◼   ► but i just i had to head to finish been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:59 ◼   ► so i have been able to read this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:00 ◼   ► that i bought last week which i bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:02 ◼   ► at a book signing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:03 ◼   ► while i was previously california by one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:07 ◼   ► of my favorite it's not my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:08 ◼   ► author was a woman named Lois McMaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:11 ◼   ► Bujold write science fiction and fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:13 ◼   ► and this book is the latest in quarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:17 ◼   ► series called before cozy Gonzaga which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:21 ◼   ► is kind of a space opera / got pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:26 ◼   ► much everything like her books what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:27 ◼   ► greatest for books running run the gamut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:29 ◼   ► in terms of genre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:30 ◼   ► of them are sort of more space adventure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:32 ◼   ► ii some of them are war stories there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:33 ◼   ► are mysteries romances like it basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:36 ◼   ► follows one particular character through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:39 ◼   ► his entire life and she said during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:41 ◼   ► reading that I went to that she is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:44 ◼   ► much modeled after CS foresters Horatio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:47 ◼   ► Hornblower series and it definitely has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:50 ◼   ► a vibe like that but it's all set in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:52 ◼   ► space anyway sushi just released the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:54 ◼   ► most recent novel in the series which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:56 ◼   ► called cryo burn which i'm not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:58 ◼   ► read it because i was finishing spins I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:00 ◼   ► could talk to you guys about it so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:02 ◼   ► sitting there on my desk taunting me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:05 ◼   ► report back on that next time i will but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:08 ◼   ► i will say anyone who is not read her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:09 ◼   ► series of foreclosing so i got i highly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:11 ◼   ► recommend it and where we start with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:13 ◼   ► that one of the wall so it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:15 ◼   ► tricky because they're there's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:16 ◼   ► a pair of books that she wrote first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:17 ◼   ► that deal with the parents of the of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:20 ◼   ► person who goes on to be the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:21 ◼   ► character the rest of the series but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:23 ◼   ► you would like to start with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:23 ◼   ► Warriors apprentice which is depending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:25 ◼   ► on how you look at it the first or third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:27 ◼   ► book in the series and believable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:28 ◼   ► available as a free book it's available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:30 ◼   ► as a free even gonna baney library which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:33 ◼   ► is one reason i suggested friend is free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:36 ◼   ► first ones free mmm first book in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:38 ◼   ► series issue except unless it's Hyperion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:40 ◼   ► are doing or something like that after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:42 ◼   ► pay for it i forgot one we ever got one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:45 ◼   ► how to live safely in the science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:46 ◼   ► fictional universes always reading it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:48 ◼   ► am reading that too and we will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:49 ◼   ► talking about that a future podcast i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:51 ◼   ► assume perhaps so by Charles you i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:53 ◼   ► reading that right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:54 ◼   ► fascinating it is very strange yes or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:57 ◼   ► strange book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:57 ◼   ► Greg are you reading anything i'm kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:59 ◼   ► of impressed that I got a quiet hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:01 ◼   ► just to record this podcast my own would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:04 ◼   ► it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:05 ◼   ► anthem has haunted my nightstand for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:07 ◼   ► what two years now but it on my right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:10 ◼   ► side is holding everything down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:12 ◼   ► that's true that's helping i will read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:13 ◼   ► anything Neal Stephenson rights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:15 ◼   ► including like in the beginning was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:16 ◼   ► command line and mother earth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:17 ◼   ► motherboard and I just haven't been able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:20 ◼   ► to get to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:21 ◼   ► I for this twice and I was surprised the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:23 ◼   ► second reading held up very very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:25 ◼   ► and I actually in some ways liked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:27 ◼   ► better because it was less confusion and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:29 ◼   ► suspense about certain things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:30 ◼   ► confuse me and suspended me the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:32 ◼   ► time every time i'm confused by a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:34 ◼   ► that i enjoy i'll go back and reread it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:36 ◼   ► just because you're not so hung up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:38 ◼   ► the details of what's going on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:40 ◼   ► you're taking in the bigger picture i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:43 ◼   ► reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:44 ◼   ► I i am reading how to live safely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:46 ◼   ► science fictional universe i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:47 ◼   ► finished blackout by connie willis which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:49 ◼   ► is recommended by Dan more'n the sequel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:52 ◼   ► to to Hugo winners actually to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:54 ◼   ► nothing of the dog and domesday book but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:56 ◼   ► I in the theme of today's show it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:59 ◼   ► really one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59 ◼   ► really one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00 ◼   ► half of a larger novel or the good news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:04 ◼   ► is that the part second part all-clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3604">TS</a>]

01:00:06 ◼   ► came out this week or last week but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:10 ◼   ► gonna get get ahold of that recently and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:12 ◼   ► I knew that going in so i knew i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:14 ◼   ► sort of going to read have to see me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:15 ◼   ► call i was much better than when I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:17 ◼   ► not know that and in like got closer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:19 ◼   ► closer to the end of what is actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:20 ◼   ► pretty large book yeah I'm started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:22 ◼   ► thinking how that hello they ever gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:24 ◼   ► get active and it's funny because it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:26 ◼   ► you can sort of see where it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:29 ◼   ► with the science fictional aspect of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:31 ◼   ► plot was behind where his story but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:32 ◼   ► is a historical it's really a historical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:34 ◼   ► novel about the London Blitz that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:35 ◼   ► happens to have some time travelers who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:37 ◼   ► are witnessing it and you see it through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:39 ◼   ► their eyes but it's not i mean this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:41 ◼   ► point of the story is that different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:43 ◼   ► aspects of people living through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:44 ◼   ► Blitz and it's good but it's definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:47 ◼   ► not your rollicking time travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:49 ◼   ► adventure it is much more a a sci-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:52 ◼   ► novel that's really a historic it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:54 ◼   ► little more in the vein of the domesday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:56 ◼   ► book in some ways yeah out of the side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:59 ◼   ► note is I think we might discuss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:01 ◼   ► discussing anthologies and short-story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:03 ◼   ► collections I've read in the last couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:05 ◼   ► years I've read a few amazing collection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:07 ◼   ► of short stories by scifi writers who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:09 ◼   ► often don't write full-length novels or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:11 ◼   ► they're probably not their full-length [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:13 ◼   ► novels are not as well regarded as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:15 ◼   ► short stories and then maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:16 ◼   ► entertaining to discuss i agree in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:18 ◼   ► i I read a short story collection i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:20 ◼   ► thought was maybe was it in with DES [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:22 ◼   ► Greg recommended to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:24 ◼   ► Greg NOS was it you that depend on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:27 ◼   ► island yeah yeah i did i did like them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:30 ◼   ► yes it was me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:31 ◼   ► well then what was it do you remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:32 ◼   ► that thing you know with the guy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:34 ◼   ► the guys that too is terrific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:37 ◼   ► oh man I can't remember it now it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:39 ◼   ► was really great by a seattle-based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:40 ◼   ► writer it might be is it that he had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:43 ◼   ► story in there about someone who the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:45 ◼   ► story about the guy who said there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:47 ◼   ► mirror that you can step through and go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:49 ◼   ► back in time or forward in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:51 ◼   ► depending on when your army I go and no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:54 ◼   ► that was a wardrobe mirror anyway I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:56 ◼   ► alice in wonderland in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:58 ◼   ► and this is not a game show you going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:00 ◼   ► get me a calamity circus sounds like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:03 ◼   ► not the internet read the other book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:06 ◼   ► that I read was the disappearing spoon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:08 ◼   ► by sam keen and I recommend it highly it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:11 ◼   ► is popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:13 ◼   ► science nonfiction and it's a book about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:16 ◼   ► the periodic table of the elements and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:18 ◼   ► let me just say every element has at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:22 ◼   ► least a chapters worth of wacky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:24 ◼   ► historical anecdotes about it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:28 ◼   ► takes this kind of this veering bouncing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:30 ◼   ► around the periodic table to tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:32 ◼   ► about various scientists who learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:34 ◼   ► great things before they died young from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:36 ◼   ► horribly poisoning themselves with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:38 ◼   ► various elements that the time the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:41 ◼   ► disappearing spoon refers to an element [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3761">TS</a>]

01:02:44 ◼   ► and I can't remember which one now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa4Rsmg/3764">TS</a>]

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