00:00:11 ◼ ► well so we're back on the uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/11">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► podcast and I convene intercession this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/13">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► meeting of the comic book club who come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/16">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► to the club member say I i if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/19">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► I'm Jason snow and the other members of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/24">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► this comic book club are jason reitman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/26">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► hello hey thanks for having me back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/27">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► it's good to have you here in this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/30">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► this strange place where we're recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/31">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► this which used to be her office and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/33">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► Lisa Schmeisser who and you with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/35">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► was never your office now and you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/37">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► never even worked on this floor know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/39">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► so there I was gentrified out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/41">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► office so we can have a podcast was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/43">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► yeah to a deal exit apartment in the sky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/46">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► jeffersons podcast coming soon so today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/50">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► what we thought we would talk about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/52">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► this was a plot hatched in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/54">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► Fantastic Four and all its forms the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/57">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► Fantastic Four were the original marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/59">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► comic the in the Marvel Universe even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/62">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► though everybody thinks of spider-man I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/65">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► think this as the the beginning of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/67">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► the Fantastic Four came first and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/70">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► have been a stalwart part of what Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/73">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► has done over the last however many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/76">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► decades it is what 40 or 50 years now 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/77">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► yes sixties wasn't 623 yeah yeah so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/82">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► interesting but I've never been you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/86">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► top-of-mind i think in in the culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/89">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► either of comic book readers or of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/93">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► general pop culture that they have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/95">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► a couple fantastic for movies and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/97">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► was the Fantastic Four and made serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/99">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► which would maybe we will talk about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/101">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► little bit always been hurt several and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/103">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► yes that's true actually I'm thinking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/107">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► the one from from original sixties early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/108">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► seventies that one was actually my first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/111">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► introduction of the Fantastic Four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/113">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► they've been around but but they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/116">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► never been a huge huge deal and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/119">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► kind of interesting that they are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/123">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► the Fantastic Four is iconic and yet not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/124">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► as well known as others it's the source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/127">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► for a lot of stuff i think we can write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/129">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► incredibles is based largely on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/131">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► ordinary family into ordinary family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/135">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► with its interesting thing they've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/137">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► been that sort of commercial success but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/138">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► they are sort of like the quintessential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/142">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► superhero group that everything else is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/144">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► based on right and they've got the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/147">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► of family dynamic going on because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/148">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► a friend and why do wonderful family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/150">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► dynamics is why they didn't catch on as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/153">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► much because when you think about Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/155">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► alternative to DC where Marvel's in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/158">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► real world and they had aggressively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/159">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► positioned a lot of their their books to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/161">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► countercultural readers and then to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/166">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► this family unit where it was evident to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/168">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► all to any reader that all four people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/171">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► in that unit value the family and would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/173">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► resonated with a fourteen-year-old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/177">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► reader the same way that you know we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/178">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► certainly didn't with me growing up you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/182">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► know reading the x-men and all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/184">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► cool comics Fantastic Four was so lame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/185">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► and dumb and silly and but yeah we heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/188">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► smoking his pipe right but now actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/191">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► that I'm older and I just went back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/194">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► reread some of them and I have a family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/196">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► I appreciate that family dynamic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/198">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► story and first now I don't think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/200">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► yeah I i started reading Fantastic Four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/203">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► during John Burns run after he left the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/205">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► ax men and what I what the reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/207">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► liked it is because it was you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/209">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► I've mentioned before in this podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/212">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► that I love the Micronauts and it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/213">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► sci-fi comic i loved nova which was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/215">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► seventies Marvel invention that was ace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/218">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► marvel's green lantern basically but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/223">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► sci-fi comic and the thing I loved about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/224">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► the burn Fantastic Four was that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/226">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► that was a sci-fi that what that was we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/229">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► build spaceships and have crazy science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/232">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► and go to the negative zone and i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/234">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► that that was what i liked about that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/237">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► fantastic four is they give you these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/240">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► great explanations for example Reed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/242">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► Richards oh you know every cell in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/244">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► body has been converted to bacterial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/246">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► stack you no longer need to eat breathe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/248">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► collection of scientific anomalies in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/251">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► your brain can stretch itself in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/253">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► direction before we continue along those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/255">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► lines I just need to point out that yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/256">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► for those following at home we did go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/258">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► nearly four minutes and 30 seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/260">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► before Jason mentioned the Micronauts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/262">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► it's good i think the over-under was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/264">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► always choose the under when it comes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/268">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► the Micronauts gonna have to have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/270">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► all microns parties and Don Harris [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/272">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► realized it was into a sci-fi thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/273">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► always loved the sci-fi comics and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/275">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► were that many of the mountain and AFF [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/277">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► especially in the 30 run like to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/281">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► today you get that too on Marvel and DC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/283">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► they have you can be cosmic superheroes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/284">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► and actually I'm Kirkman with invincible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/286">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► is doing the story arc right now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/288">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► hilton ride war which is a cosmic war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/290">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► kind of story again always love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/293">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► stuff that's why I like Nova so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/296">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► it thats that's where the eff kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/298">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► came in before we get too far off here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/300">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► we do actually have a relatively modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/302">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► relatively self-contained Fantastic Four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/304">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► related book that we wanted to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/308">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► about that we all read which is they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/310">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► should do that which will start with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/312">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► that as a jumping-off point that gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/314">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► everybody out there something that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/316">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► can read two other than just saying read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/317">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► published and watch those terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► movies and watch rather be a robot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/322">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► come back in like six years so and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/324">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► uh which is unstable molecules which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/326">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► hadn't even heard of before it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/328">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► mentioned in the last podcast or after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/331">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► the last podcast was over maybe write it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/334">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► unstable molecules came out a few years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/336">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► back when Marvel was still in bankruptcy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/339">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► and Bill Jameis had taken over as Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/340">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► editor-in-chief and it was sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/346">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► time when they were doing all these kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/347">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► of experimental weird off-the-wall kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/349">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► miniseries was written by tooth 2003 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/353">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► written by a guy named term who actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/360">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► is big in the indie comics world he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/364">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► the golems mighty swing which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/367">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► graphic novel he might think most famous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/368">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► for James Stern yes and now teaches at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/370">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► the cartooning school in vermont i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/373">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► believe this is available as a trade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/376">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► paperback is and yes that i read it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/377">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► right it was easy pickup on amazon for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/379">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► yeah is a four-issue series which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/383">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► always appropriate for this and that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/385">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► sort of shifting viewpoints of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/386">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► characters across the four before issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/389">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► but what what's fascinating about it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/391">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► that it's not really about the Fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/392">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► Four and yet it is it is about comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/394">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► in a America in the late fifties it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/399">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► got almost a madman kind of feel to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/403">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► watched mad men and so watching that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/407">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► series in conjunction with reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/410">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► unstable molecules you get the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/412">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► repressive pneus oh yes you and an issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/416">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► two sous trauma who is the model for 46 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/419">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► storm obviously is she's basically Betty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/422">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► Draper yeah she's current just crushed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/425">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► by not not so much by read her boyfriend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/428">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► now I just society yeah mhm and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/431">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► know perhaps that perhaps this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/434">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► result of Justine reading too much into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/436">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► the subtext but i did find it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/439">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► homosexual subtext associated with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/442">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► character who is known in the comics for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/444">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► saying flame on gonna constantly yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/445">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► yeah Johnny I mean so basically the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/448">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► the story works is that the premises [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/450">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► that the the Fantastic Four are inspired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/452">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► that there's actually a scene at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/456">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► of the fourth issue where did they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/457">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► alleged are deadly and jack kirby and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/460">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► couple other guys meet these characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/462">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► yeah and so that the theory is that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/466">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► but they have been basing some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/468">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► characters that have existed in San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/470">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► these new characters the Fantastic Four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/471">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► on these other characters so there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/473">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► guy named Reed Richards who is this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/474">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► of snooty scientist who's lost in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/476">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► work at Columbia University they're sooo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/479">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► strong who is his girlfriend she's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/481">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► little brother Johnny who is rebellious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/484">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► rebellious teenager and their parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/486">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► had died in a car crash and then there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/488">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► been great been busy been grammar is he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/490">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► does he have another name but hes b is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/492">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► the Ben Grimm analog and he is a friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/494">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► of reeds from college and and he has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/496">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► sort of carries a torch for there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/499">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► huge torture see he has a boxing gym [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/501">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► yeah and he's and he's the earthy guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/504">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► from Brooklyn that you guys back TM the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/507">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► analog of a been accepted these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/509">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► people in basically the real world right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/511">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► and and and therefore had my comes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/514">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► their family ties are nowhere near as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/517">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► characters and that's saying something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/521">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► given the drama and the storm and wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/523">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► that goes on with your usual fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/525">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► for title but that was the thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/527">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► happy everybody agrees with everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/532">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► else can be the subtitle of it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/534">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► true story of the world's greatest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/536">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► yeah yeah yeah yeah and it's not of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/539">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► course not true but in the end I yea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/542">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► sorry I hate to break it to you but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/544">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► president reductions and post scripts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/548">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► where the that they kind of do this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► postmodern oh this is how this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/552">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► inspired by the characters biographies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/554">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► you just read his reference material in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/556">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► the back yeah it's it's it's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/558">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► yes it acts as if it is truly true and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/561">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► that they've got the one of the nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► things about it is that it does cut back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/566">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► and forth between this this comic strip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/568">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► color comic book called vapor girl when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/572">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► is theoretically written by Stanley that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/574">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► is that in the story the artist of vapor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/578">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► girl was a neighbor i think yes of sooo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/581">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► strong and he's the reason that the all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/585">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► the Marvel Comics guys come to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/587">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► party and and that's used that cuts back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/588">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► and forth between her sort of terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/591">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► life and the life of the damage the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/593">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► tribulations of vapor girl that's its do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/596">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► the only person who seems really happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/599">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► with his life in the series is read and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/600">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► I think it's just because he's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/603">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► intellectually disconnected from it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/604">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► realize what he what he does or doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/605">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► want right because you take a look and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/607">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► thinking I never asked to be the parent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/611">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► the biggest reason she got together with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/615">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► Reed was because she was hoping he'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/617">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► provide a father figure for Johnny so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/618">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► that seems to imply that there's she she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/620">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► isn't feeling particular connection to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/623">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► him she was just kind of playing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/624">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► long con is that were johnny hates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/625">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► everything about his life because he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/627">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► teenager and his some situations all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/629">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► screwed up Ben can't connect with women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/631">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► because he dumps them after one month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/633">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► because their fingernails are square [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/634">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► where they do your table manners or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/636">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► whatever and trim your fingernails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/637">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► family and because he's there because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/638">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► idealized sooo yeah and yeah it's a but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/643">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► there's a scene that back to the cabin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/646">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► reed is trying to figure out how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/647">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► propose to see when he's abstracted into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/649">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► cabbies like do you love her tell her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/652">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► that and just ask her to marry you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/654">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► yeah it's it's it's it's really i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/659">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► very impressed i think it's really well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/662">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► and it it's definitely interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/664">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► say okay people who are knowledgeable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/667">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► about superhero stories and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/668">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► that we're going to take that knowledge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/670">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► and tell a story about people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/671">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► doesn't involve powers or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/673">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► beyond the beyond the real world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/675">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► these people are kind of miserable and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/677">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► just find it interesting story of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/679">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► year and just say that their parts of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/681">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► that are funny i love the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/683">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► throughout all four we see the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/684">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► ongoing adventures of Johnny and his and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/686">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► his friend who who are believed by these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/689">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► guys but get a little bit of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/692">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► revenge that they give is still the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/693">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► didn't necessarily give as good as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/695">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► get but yeah they take the brake off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/696">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► car and then later they steal this guy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/698">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► car and then I get the crap beat out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/700">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► him but it you know the defiance that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/702">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► yeah yeah now it's so that was some some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/706">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► not necessarily comic relief but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/708">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► little kind of adventure and fun of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/710">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► showing that these guys aren't going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/711">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► take it that I that I kinda like but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/713">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► yeah it's it is sort of miserable people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/714">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► in a min in bad situations and and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/716">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► the end I think that's that sooo ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/720">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► kind of breaking free from her condition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/723">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► whereas sort of read ends up as this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/725">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► kind of miserable user in the lab in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/727">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► well be interesting to see if you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/730">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► take that the basic premise behind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/731">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► switches take away the superpowers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/733">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► these the dynamics and the personalities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/735">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► that play out and I'd love to see how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/736">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► that would get applied to other Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/738">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► properties for example what if daredevil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/739">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► didn't have his super enhanced senses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/743">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► and all you have basically is a blind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/745">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► lawyer who has this out outside sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/747">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► screwed up relationships with women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/751">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► maybe they were there was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/753">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► another Marvel series called powerless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/755">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► there's a four-issue series i think each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► issued out with a different Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/759">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► character remember a spider-man Peter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/760">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► Peter Parker being on the cover of one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/762">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► think it started following those themes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/764">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► but i haven't read it and it was already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/765">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► came out right around the same time so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/770">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► wonder if that's what they were doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/771">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► yeah it's interesting because you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/773">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► that you know the character dynamics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/774">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► right yeah man and then so that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/776">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► question is if you pull the superhero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/778">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► aspect out what's left i mean you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/781">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► argue that them in spider-man 2 i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/783">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► is actually a pretty good movie but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/786">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► really a movie i think i might have said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/787">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► this on a previous podcast it's really a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► movie about a guy who's got problems who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/791">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► happens to be a superhero right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/794">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► that's the superhero just get you in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/795">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► not really i just realized the Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/798">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► Marvel more they've launched the nor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/800">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► random i had of course picked up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/803">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► x-men run and it's pretty much the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/805">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► thing we have these characters they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/806">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► don't have powers and they transpose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/807">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► some of the traits and it basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/811">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► takes those themes and what are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/813">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► dynamics like when you take the mutant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/814">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► powers or the crazy situations out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/816">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► the equation right stick into different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/819">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► historical context of the thing I IA i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/821">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► liked about unstable molecules it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/824">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► really taking the fantastic out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/825">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► started thinking about because it ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/831">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► meeting and so in your mind you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/834">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► created the Fantastic Four and we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/838">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► know that originally Kirby and Stan Lee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/840">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► kind of run and artwork and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/842">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► fantastic and then that sort of imagery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/844">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► and like what I brought to the table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/847">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► with the history the Fantastic Four and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/849">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► how like fantastic and cosmic at all is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/850">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► really brought the fact this was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/852">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► people's daily lives will use your body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/856">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► for right had made that contrast so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/858">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► great and then you compare to your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/861">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► life and like why people started reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/862">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► the comics for escapism to begin with uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/864">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► yeah when I was really interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/866">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► I'm which johnny and his friend do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/869">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► think conversations of right about about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/871">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► the comics and identify this comic from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/874">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► me describing this panel and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/876">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► that that's definitely a part of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/878">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► I would love to know if the writers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/881">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► influenced by the sopranos because one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/882">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► of the things that one of the themes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/885">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► that arc through that entire series was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/886">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► that no matter how much you may want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/888">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► change your basic nature it is your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/889">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► basic nature you know and that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/892">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► despite being in therapy for years Tony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/896">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► never really changes he just has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/897">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► better vocabulary for figuring out who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/899">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► he is and it seemed like this with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/901">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► unstable molecules every change these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/904">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► guys made was a result of who they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/907">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► already not who they wanted to be or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/909">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► you know they were limited by they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/911">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► limited by the nate by the very nature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/914">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► which is almost the opposite of any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/917">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► other superhero comic which is oh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/919">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► can fly the world is your oyster or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/921">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► construction any direction you can solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/927">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► and all right because that's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/929">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► that's the Marvel way right as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/931">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► powers are sort of formed with the with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/933">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► the character and you along with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/935">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► character you don't get the you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/937">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► get the powers then that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/939">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► always get the powers that you you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/941">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► maybe you get the powers you deserve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/945">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► yeah i know that this is sort of Stanley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/946">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► model i think in some ways which is why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/948">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► it's kind of fascinating that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/951">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► invisible girl the 1960s because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/952">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► really wonder what sort of feminist to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/954">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► subtext there is to that you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/957">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► which is address after dead-on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/958">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► enable medical schools where she feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/960">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► sometimes she's visible and invisible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/962">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► yeah exactly and there's the terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/965">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► women and in the Bookroom rato gentle it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/967">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► oh man I mean it fits that's where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/971">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► yeah yeah oh I i'm also i mean obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/975">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► one of the things that that unstable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/978">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► molecules is about is about the creative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/979">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► process it is about taking elements from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/981">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► a world and its reverse engineering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/985">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► right but it's taking elements from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/987">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► real world and then how do you as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/989">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► creator weave these into that thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/990">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► that is fantastic and amazing and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/993">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► throughout how do you take these crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/995">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► lives and turn them into escapist fare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/997">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► well right and so and it's funny because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/998">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► you're playing spot the reference but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► the same time it really makes you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► that not only do you have these four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► characters but you've got in in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► first issue I think Reed is talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► about how he's getting sued by a former [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► lab assistant of his who's like victor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► von domm or something like that and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► very obvious that that's like he tells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► the story about how he's got this awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► guy who came from Eastern Europe and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► stole his stole his ideas and and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► because dr. doom and Johnny's buddy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► sort of short and fat becomes like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► mole man analog and and throughout just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► like how-to writers take bits of real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► life and turn them into something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► is altogether or mostly different anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► wow I just a blown your minds ok let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► talk about her being really concur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► yeah we concur and looking for what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► ok please to be you know guy davis and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► think is one of the most underrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► business now and he certainly he's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► best one of the best storytellers if not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► the best storyteller working his panel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► to panel flow is is so seamless that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► don't even really notice the transitions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► that you just kind of read through very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► smoothly and it's like you're watching a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► scene play out you know he don't lie i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► think he's not as big as other artists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► because he draws real people and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► real in the Bryan Hitch ultra-realistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► they're all 20 pounds overweight dumpy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► nobody is fantastically beautiful the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► no not at all yeah he's currently he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► universities a regular artist on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► and his own mark mark ebook which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► excellent but you know for this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► story that's like about real people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► architecture and the clothing and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► expressions and is his artwork is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► on the sort of side of cartoony but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► flows it has just enough lines to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► the kind of mood across like a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► cartoonist and just the story flows from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► panel to panel to panel beautifully it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► also borrows pretty heavily from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► comics conventions of the 1960s in a no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► Marge way without completely replicating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► them which I really liked and whoever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► the colorist is on this did a brilliant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► job as well because the colors also have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► that great late 1950s early nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1137">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► sixties atomic pastels feel to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► something I noticed in the art is that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► think there's a dual reference here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► sue has has created this party for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► all of reeds people from the University [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► and he hasn't even shown up yet and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► see her stressing out before everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► gets there in the next time we see her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► she's had a few martinis and she's tipsy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► and what the way it's portrayed she has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► these bubbles over her head which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► funny first I thought well this is kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► like the mundane version of the kirby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► krackle you know you get those little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► Bob bubbles all over somebody and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► they're pulsating with with up with our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► strange energies from beyond writer yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► and it also of course is the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► obvious one that I came to later was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► it's also that was the invisible girls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► power right was to make little bubbles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► and in this case she's got a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► all around here but they just mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► she's soused it's very good but uh but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► it's it's good i mean it's good stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1197">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► and it does not look like anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► modern which is which is part of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► the really nice thing about the art is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► that it works really well it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► good but it doesn't look even remotely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► like something from the 21st century [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► which was published in 2003 I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► that's why I remind me so strongly of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► madness because it's bad men as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► um this does the same thing except it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► doesn't quite hit you over the head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► would look how effective we are looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► at atlantic we are it instead what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► they've done is they've recognized that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► for modern comics readers are used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► illustration styles and then it somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► manages to marry those back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► things that people are reading in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► nineteen fifties and sixties and it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► gives it this really beautiful period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► feel without it feeling anachronistic if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► mhm it's almost if if you weren't paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► attention you wouldn't notice you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► just go with it but when you start to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► pay attention there's all those layers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► there that's actually this I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► actually signed a really good comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► illustration is when it takes you awhile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► to unpack it and realize exactly how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► well it's done as opposed to people you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► know they would look my costume has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► patches look right which is anyway I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► think guy davis is one of the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► I think I think there's an argument to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► be made that comics are always met made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► to be read more than once because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► a kid and you get it and you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► know what happens and you rip through it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► right so first time a can help you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► what's on the next page of somebody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► fighting over there i got a hurry to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► through it all and that's read one right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► and then and then I maybe I i assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► people do this when it's not just me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► then you go back and then you you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► what's gonna happen but now you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► really making the journey and in digging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► yes sadly I think that less true did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► with today's comics that are written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► more for the the trade paperbacks then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► it was you know back when we were kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► reading comics the i/o if you read an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► issue of the Mighty Avengers today and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► then read it again in a week and another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► I'm another week i'm not sure you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► get more nuanced out of it because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► already compressed or because it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► decompressed that you don't like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► in the decompression process all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► those nuances float away and have have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► gone out because it's about more big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► splashes and explosions and the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► that artists are paid by the page and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► our writers so the more volume right if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► you write less stuff but make it on more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► yeah i can see that i mean i still think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► that there are just start the pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► have detail that if you're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► reading through and sort of saying okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► and he says this and then fight and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► he says this and then this happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► thing happens you know you're you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► necessarily going to drink in what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► actually on the pages i think that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► the just the going back and noticing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► that the nuances of the art but you me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► and some people don't do it right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► think that's the other part of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► some people just kind of ripped through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► it and get the story and they move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► and they're not focused on now I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► jump onto a comic store and let my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1378">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► opinion note I guess I guess what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► saying is that it's just something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► really can unfold in the rereading it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► doesn't necessarily not everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► necessarily doesn't unfold and not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► many readers necessarily do it but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► I think there's there's some natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► levels there by the way I had I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► interviewed the in advance new york [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► comicon interview the president of dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► horse and the richardson yes and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► he was talking about their the digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► comics initiative which is now old news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► although i think it's being announced in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► about two hours as we record this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► it's old news by the time you listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► this dear listener but he referred to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► what what you call the flimsies he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► referred to them as pamphlets right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► which is a common term actually in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► industry which is which is a good term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► and it gets the same thing across so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► that that person on Twitter who said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► stop calling them limbs you're driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► me crazy it's all right we'll call an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► yeah but because that's what they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► always think of pamphlets and think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► like Revolutionary War I was just signal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► which were basically the difference if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► you ever read those though a common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► oh I've skimmed it and I'm done it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► it's a pretty hefty work so yeah let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► bring back pamphlet is a descriptive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► term 444 serialize yes pamphleteers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► necessary for serialize publications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► looks ya dead tree edition versus the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► digital edition so to get back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► Invisible Woman the bubbles and so on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► and so forth one of the things I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► always wondered about is she really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► doesn't use your powers for a whole lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► other for a whole lot beyond purely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► defensive maneuvers and you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► usually i was super quick block these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► bricks from playa in a class the classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► uses right I don't think some reason i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► have been a car more offensive well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► reason i bring that up is because when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► you read I'm rising stars one of the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► Straczynski jet just rozinsky is rising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► star series one of the characters little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► dark Haven her power is being able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► create very small force fields or or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► she's my staff she becomes a trained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► assassin because the carotid artery is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► about as big as her force field extends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► and that got me thinking you know I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► this may be because i haven't widely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► read the the Fantastic Four but why have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► has it never occurred to sue storm that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► she's got this tremendous offensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► power that she could use i think in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► the in preparation for this podcast i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► reread the burn run which is of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► the second greatest run of the Fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► Four after the kirby lee run and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► reread the hitch will our run which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► more recent one and in the the hitch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► more run if she does I believe uses her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► invisible that's making them blind and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► and so some more things along those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► lines not killing people because yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► that actually does your planetary to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► wear her in a lot where where the storm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► this is from analog in planetary because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► her optic nerves have become invisible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► her husband has to build her a pair of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► goggles that she can actually see and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1557">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► was just the thought the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► someone thought this through the logical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► you're right if you turn invisible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► you're stomping around like a around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► unless you take your retinas visible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► in which case your your easy to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► loading disk so we're not sugar but she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► said I mean I remember things where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► like I create a force field and use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► to punch reading it matters that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► it's not particular day basically she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► a telekinetic intresting alright because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► The Voice founders are probably a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► problematic character I mean there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► there's a reason why they it's it's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► it's violet in the incredible yeah has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► who has the senior who wishes she could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► be I'm singled and she's all and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► all defensive to she's she's making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► bubbles just protect the family that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► yeah I find vilest problematically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► character because again when you're 14 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► years old there are times when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► like oh if only the earth would open up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1617">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► and swallow me and this kid can have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► happen so in some ways it's it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► wish fulfillment it's also a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► metaphor for learning how to grapple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► with your adolescent demons right when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► you're talking about a grown woman it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► more it's more awkward in especially as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► society has evolved since the early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► sixties to have a grown woman mother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► because of course the family dynamic has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► yes Tom and have her still be the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► know my power is to hide like I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► I've always wanted to be a problematic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► character actually being five or six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► years old and watching the Fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► Four animated series and this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► believed not sticks in my head 30-odd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► years later we're sooo goes to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► portrait taken and so it in an evening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► gown no less and it turns out it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► elaborate ruse by dr. doom to kidnap her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► I had no Doctor Doom has his own photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► studio that during raids well this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► the thing it was a camera where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► minute the minute the lens snap these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► ropes came out and bounds to head to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► foot and offers out of the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► yes yes and she freaks the hell out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► pardon my language and they spend the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► rest of the episode trying to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► rescue her and I even as a five-year-old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► I was all what the fudge why mention my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► way she's forced to behold the face if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► you will that sounds like a platform in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► squares i have this normal object know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► haha there are ropes that was better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► than you are mine and yeah it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► like dr. doom agassi dr. doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► cartoon series was kind of like a wily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► coyote feelin and anyway yes everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► yeah it was every scheme no matter how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► elaborately setup and always failed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► that's what makes these cartoons not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► sophisticated no sixties and seventies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► really card us so maybe it's the cartoon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► impression it's always you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► look at su with a sort of but even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► you go back and take a look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► seventies or sixties you had a role [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► monroe and Jean Grey and Kitty Pryde and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► all of them seem to have a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► autonomy and a lot more respect from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► their colleagues / friends and Sue Storm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► ever gets you know I was like oh come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► you know you're super powered and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► best you can do is complain that no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► one's coming to dinner so one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► things that i liked about ultimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► Fantastic Four is that not only did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► replace the older man younger woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► relationship with two people of the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► age but he sue is the field leader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► because that is is a leader and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► really smart and is actually if not if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► not on par with read she is just a one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► scientific smarts department and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► she's got all of these other skills and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► she you know she she kicks ass and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► that in and it's a it was interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► see the choices that they made to really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► reset the dynamic there and how how in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► 20th 21st century context perhaps that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► relationship a little bit make them more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► witness the return elastic stretchy dude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► and visit land you're going to do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► actually read is portrayed an ultimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1798">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► Fantastic Four especially as being kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► of a kind of a screw-up now and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► that you know he is father can't stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► to be socially incompetent he's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► isolated as he gets them almost killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► ultimate Fantastic Four almost as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► they will they know they changed the age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► of Reed & and did that you brought you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► up to try to explain the relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► where if you look at the mill our hitch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► run again at which interestingly enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► was they had just come off the ultimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► and it was like all this publicity the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► next book they're gonna do and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► start putting out teaser images of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► panels and and the next book was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► Fantastic Four and I think the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► couple issues sold really well and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► it basically tanked because people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► weren't interested in the characters or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► whatever but I happen to think that run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► is so great because it focuses on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► family dynamic and the introduces old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► character whose name I forget which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► su refers to her as mrs fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► she's essentially Reed Richards as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► woman and a tjs she was back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► original kirby lee Ron she's an old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► character was like he dated in college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► and she was his equal and super smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► and she's doing this big scientific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► thing in in the comics and here of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► course runs off with her and there's a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► lot of the story is about y su isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► interesting things the relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► between Sue and read and they kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► elevate it and make it work and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► another even opposites attract like she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► grounds him kind of thing but she's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► that earthy with mine it wasn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► like that it was Arabic writing book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► learning it was it was it was a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► subtler than that but they did it in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► such a way that she came off as a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► strong female interesting character that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► you have a late and it made sense why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► Boober genius read was attracted to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► and she didn't have to be super genius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► for him to be attracted to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► relationship work they clicked and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► was awesome seeing if it was their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► anniversary dinner just one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► nice quiet moments in a comic but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► don't rarely do anymore it was their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► anniversary he went back in time took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► her to a restaurant back in time so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► could sit in the restaurant she's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► why'd you bring me here we go what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► significance and he's like a look and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► shows them it's basically the younger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► them on the street meeting for the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► first time and so that was his romantic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► gesture was like bringing them back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► so they could watch their first meeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► and I was like wow that's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► really very thoughtful very thoughtful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► relationship work without having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► change it like Ultimates did because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► couldn't figure out how to make it work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► that's why i say ultimate is kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► cheat it's easy to make them the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► you make them equal sure now they can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► together but to do it in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► relationship works which also could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► why you know it didn't sell very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► well it is the ultimate is a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► dynamic I I mean ultimate is in itself a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► achieve it by that definition because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► the whole idea is we take this and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► kind of reimagining it and so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► balance of power shifts and ultimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► Fantastic Four Sue's dad is the general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► and he's the one who gets them the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► distance a building that they can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► all their labs and we're as ready as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► sort of a self-made man in many ways and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► family has disowned him and last time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► checked he had died i think he blew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► himself up and they killed him and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► some marvel ultimate event he's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► still alive is he still alive but sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► to the negative zone or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► that I don't think he's secretly working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► in a lab at this point or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► that of course because they wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► actually have the guts to kill the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► even in the ultimate university that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► the second-stringers like the the lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► got eaten by the blob and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► no its disgusting yeah anyway so I hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► different dynamic and I have that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► thought if the point of the Ultimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► Universe is to say well what if we did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► what if we reimagine how this might work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► different and have and say let's explore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► different dynamic for the fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► right I thought that really worked and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► thought the ultimate Fantastic Four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► started out really promising Lee didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► start out strong and then kind did start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► strong write as many of the old Mick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► titles did yeah this is the minute you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► villains I or or oh it's von doom or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► you know in the case of the ex minute he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► started bringing back sinister whoever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► like here we go this is a nod to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► continuity people right ultimate version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► of X alright you know for example to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► next one I thought was a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► interesting when it turned out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► Logan had infiltrated the team because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► he was on someone else's payroll and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► screwed the dynamics and the trust and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► hey it's resolved let's move on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► something else right and those with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► stuff is better when it's things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► kitty pryde moving next door Peter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► Parker and getting him because like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► that would what that that's impossible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► that could never happen and like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► right that that that kind of stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► you're right they have a tendency to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► back it off and say well no we we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► want to go down these roads which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► whole point of the alternate universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► and the weird thing is although i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► like the Fantastic Four I think the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► character that I don't kind of cock an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► eyebrow tis is the thing just I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► Benjamin Graham is a fantastic character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► inside and out and he's the only one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► don't really feel ambivalent about for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► example with well because yeah I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► what you said because with Johnny Storm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► it no matter what iteration you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► easy he's always kind of a self-involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► sure quite an almost every student that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► are really actually in the the yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► best single line in the the hitch malhar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► book was as he was going off to join [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► this new band and talk to his publicist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► and all this stuff is sue says my god my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► brother is Harris Hilton Paris Hilton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► yeah he could be very serviceable from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► whoshere the Melbourne has helped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► exactly anything when you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► that is like yet that's Johnny Storm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► that's actually not an uninteresting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► character in that kind of content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► writers kind of exasperated in a way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► I I guess you're thinking about Ben [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► Grimm which is always fascinated me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► in many ways I feel like he's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► the most heroic of the four of them kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► of lute ly you've got a guy who doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► he can never blend he's never going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► be able to disguise himself and walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► among the normals and he is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► forces of will that keeps this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► cobbled family together despite having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► the length of the lease sturdy claim to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► any of them I mean he's not married any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► of them he's not related by blood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► no he just a schoolchild just flew a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► rocket for his buddy and what we got for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► he's kind of like a meteorite mixed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► a doula and if it and he's got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► wisdom of Brooklyn behind him yes he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► got this really large battle story where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► you know he's got this really rich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► backstory where it turns out he's Jewish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► and shiver for people and he actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► had a bar mitzvah when he spent his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► first 13 years is the thing because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► figured you know today I became a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► man compared to when I was just benjamin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► graham and that kind of selflessness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► they do a really the reddest voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► always did a really good job of not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► beating you over the head with it where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► you know it's kind of submerged and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► he loves Pete said he loves to arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► wrestle with Colossus and he's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► quickie and again I feel like he's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► real unsung hero of the series and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► always kind of baffled me that Reed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► Richards is always the leader of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► team when he's the idea guy for the team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► everybody else kind of does the heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► lifting when it comes to execution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► been sort of the moral is the grounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► one right i mean you have to say it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► that's sort of the idea identities that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► he's the earthy grounded got some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► sterile analogues to Earth Wind to earth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► I guess he is the grounded one asked me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► to see the earth analog and reduce the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► water analog and soon as the air analog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► you know in back in the mid-70s a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► recognized he was the most important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► character and made a cartoon of just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► thing if you don't remember max here I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► would have loved to see that but i dont [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► even Marvel team-up to write you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► who works better with others than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► thing about her man would be it you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► Wolverine for some reason to and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► different marble teams this point right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► for this was different i think it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► loner thing is also on the Avengers now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► but the thing cartoon you should youtube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► it because of course you took the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► and made him a teenager who had thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► rings that you would put together and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► would say thing rings do your thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► he would become the big rocky guy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► kind of undercuts the essential tragedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► the character because if you can turn it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2277">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► yeah he also had a dune buggy which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► remarried is the best parts of boys it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► was the it was the thing Flintstones our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► system and in the opening animation you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► have fun with Fred Flintstone and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► teenager with his thing rings doing his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► thing and grim the teenager I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► glad you too much so I would learn too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► late they took to grasp that right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► oh and i was like one day I did look on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► oh I hope it gets to hulu at some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► every or that the Japanese spider-man is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► was my find on the internet if you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► marvel.com was actually streaming that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► for he had the big robots 00 it is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► like it's like a manatee of Agriculture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► man or anything like that extent our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► Rangers considered accepting spider-man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► oh no I when he can't beat the villain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► he gets into his giant spider man robot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► yes seriously there there so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► ambivalence about robots and comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► culture anyway so why not make it better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► so Marvel had this whole the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► period in the sixties and seventies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► world where they did the licensing need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► a live-action stuff and they're Japanese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► all these cartoons and I you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► the original spider-man cartoon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► spider-man and his amazing friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► the Fantastic Four cartoon where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► dropped the human torch because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► themselves on fire and stuck in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► robot and had her beautiful bottoms dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► ya see that it right the whole and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► Herbie was evil when controlled by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► time computer that's right and they also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► had that kid who did who is a fan of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► human torch in the comic who lit himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► I say and then one of those heartwarming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► so they went through that period and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► then Marvel had been it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► financial problems and some bad deals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► and didn't do anything for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► and then it came out of that the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► the nineties and started again with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► another wave of things like the x-men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► movies in the spider-man movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► horrible and we will Fantastic Four to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► Fantastic Four movie I dragged my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► husband to the first one that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► payback thing for you owe me and and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► going to make you suffer through this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► and i didn't realize i would also be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► yes heard bad i actually thought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► second was better than the first one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► I said yeah right because somebody asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► me about this and no no I'm not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► it's good i'm just saying it's better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► than the right the first ones we have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► the first one is so abysmal amazingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► terrible that it's mind-boggling at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► least the second one has sort of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► laurence fishburne is the voice of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► silver surfer Andre Braugher is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► general yeah there's there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► some Galactus stuff although they below [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► the Galactic story by making it not it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► as interesting as the either ultimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► Fantastic Four's Galactus or the regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► Galactus it's just kind of a flock of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► black sea galley things that it sits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► right I think that's fantastic for movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► was the incredibles be incredible yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► well the the live action one with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► strangers they got so much of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► for example i will i will argue that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► and Griffin could have been a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► mister mister fantastic and i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► argue exactly the haha because he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► has that as a screen presence he always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► has that kind of remove any way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► it's it's sort of that mmm yes sir i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► floating in the ether of my big thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► and and I thought that presence work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► well but he just connected with nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► but i see i actually didn't get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► sort of ether edge got that he was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► slight both physically like his if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► had such a slight president yeah and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► don't think of your injury does even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► though Reed Richards is often his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► hair back to that doctor who had podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► matt smith's rendition of the doctor is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► much more mr. fantastic then that guy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► was as mr. fantastic you're right you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► you know your sort of Rights that sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► of scattered and i'm not entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► connected to humanity write the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► Chris Evans who plays the human torch i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► actually thought encapsulated some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2518">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► that I'm are on my amateur common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► rockstar right i don't care who you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► and you simply science has an obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► that right let's go check it was a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► thing and which is why it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► strange in because i started watching no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► ordinary family right which is basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► it's almost another dimension we posted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► a podcast about how did I wish I'd yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► made the time for that but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► which is basically a variation on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► yes and what it is so it's a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► of a cognitive distance to have Chiklis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► is it playing again the thing except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► without the big scaling right stuff in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► rocks this time yet rocks are expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► yeah but you know I thought chipper was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► great i will make the argument for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► and Griffin I think Julian McMahon was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► very good as dr. doom because he sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► traffic's not kind of medicine tourism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► didn't want to say anything I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► you know maybe it's because i also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► watched nip talk and he was really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► as as just a complete moral voice on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► that show so so that carried over was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► why I was was horribly constructed where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► he was just like a a wrong guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► wanted to steal the Terran I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► documents are you to do one film why and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► I've been in hollywood filled with lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► and lots of blonde waspy starlets do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► go with Jessica Jessica Alba so yes in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► jessica alba was the biggest she's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► vapid right and soon let's just go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► the road that invisible in a second to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► first off you take you take the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► hot girl who's who's famous because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► she's hot and you make her in visible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► yeah right and and then you know okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► dr. that already has some problems as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► we've discussed with with how she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► portrayed and what her role is and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► you give that part to somebody who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► capable of standing there looking pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► tiny that's the aside from checklist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► they really didn't hire actors who could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► act they hired pretty people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► good at being pretty which works for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► human torch I i argue right so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► that was just now that I can't look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► it anymore after america which I those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► yeah I don't know yeah I'm nervous about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► that casting as well yeah I just think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► they missed the mark where the knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► the x-men which that those films had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► some problems to it always bothered me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► that Hugh Jackman doesn't look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► wolverine he's not what he seems way too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► tall and all the others a ranking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► andrena right now he got he nailed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► right even though good actor he didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► you like it to me but he was will bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► right that is the higher good actors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► sort of role for superheroes Fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► Four just missed that like day in class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► with ya the studio's higher good actor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► yeah well to sidebar from and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► things there's a story circle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► circulate last week about hiring jon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► hamm to play Superman and in the i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► was well you'd have to go with some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► the Superman is obviously age since jon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► Hamm's very visibly in his late thirties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► 20-somethings that have occupied the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► world before the whole key of Superman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► yeah but he needs to yeah well that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► yeah and it got me thinking about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► difficult it is actually to cast for any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► of these any of these things because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► comes down to the tension between really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► attractive people because let's face it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► most superheroes are our pen ready brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► x we're good-looking me giving well they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► anti-gravity breasts are apparently just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► a superpower every woman so you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► do you find somebody who is presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► attractive enough to to be physically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► believable and yet capable of managing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► to act and it's it's gotta be tough but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► you just hire actors who can play the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► parts like you know you can say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► Downey jr. there doesn't actually look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► like a tony stark or multi-millionaire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► that's right the busted but that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► whole thing you totally believe it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► commented that if Hollywood was casting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► race blind he would have been a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► Superman and the more I thought about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► the more I thought that yeah absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► I would have totally I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► totally bought Denzel Washington is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► Superman especially since I was on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► Denzel Washington is james bond that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► it has that calls you always have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► and your husband cast the the black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► now we on I just I know you guys like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► play casting case isn't ever could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► explain okay so i'm giving her a blank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► ok sidebar the sidebar my husband and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► were talking after with the denzel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► washington movie i began ranting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► raving about how there's an entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► generation of minority actors who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► superheroes for example i was i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► arguing that Dwayne Johnson could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► plausibly play Superman like character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► I mean he's got charisma the--in yang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► the man can rock spandex as we saw from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► his WWE days you know and he's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► yeah so that and what this turned into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► is is my husband saying okay let's turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► back now into an african-american [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► character which again is very similar to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► what J michael Straczynski did with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► squadron supreme pizzas that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► budget supreme and I thought okay Don [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► Cheadle Batman that's obvious and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► instead of being rohde & and be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► machine and I'm you have to get that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► we went and we basically the casting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► everybody from there and I said this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► nationwide casting game is so much fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► yeah is that it brings out sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► everybody's vision everybody's carrying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► really right way but i think is their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► sample else argued the Queen Latifah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► could be Commissioner Gordon because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► she's just got the best i'm down like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► I'm yeah yeah yeah I'm and Andre has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► sounds like a seventies not my patient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► my dream actually I think it's better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► because i thought well you know you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► Andre Braugher as the riddler because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► the way you would write this Riddler is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► he'd be so much smarter than the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► humanity feel profoundly isolated and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► resentful and he'd be acting on that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► Andre barrister kind of actor who can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► convincingly you know portray that while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► i slowly know that he's cuckoo for cocoa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► since this is an interesting thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► explore because there are characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► many many many different interpretation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► right are all valid Batman last Michael [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► Ryton fell Kilmer language Clooney but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► you know that you have super detective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► Batman the world's greatest detective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► you also have my parents were killed I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► a psychopath Batman and everything in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► that would be a social activist he'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► rich either through his own making or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► through inherited money and he'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► taking a look at his disintegrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► Gotham which is a Baltimore analog or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► Detroit analog and he'd be like clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► the system isn't working on making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► myself the system and but you have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► to read for the wire version that man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► without a consignment Batman but the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► thing is fantastic for me to bring this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► back full circle of fantastic for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► doesn't have those different versions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► know it's a reason there's many villages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► Richards is Reed Richards let you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► iterations so which makes casting hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► you wouldn't think fantastic for which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► has no iterations really like everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► Ben Grimm is Ben Grimm and there isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► like there was the happy Ben Grimm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► the difficulty is Reed Richards kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► a tough character crack and I think some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► of that well I mean he's he's a he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► an egghead he's a leader sort supposedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► he's a man of action because he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2936">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► I think one of the reasons that it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► be hard to cast Reed Richards is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► that character is kind of a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► amalgam of traits and and some creators [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► have done better with him than others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► right you know Ben Grimm is easier right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► sooo i think you know just we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► miss with just cal but they were there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► are better options that the actor Reno [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► Robert Downey jr. could probably even do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► are you guys familiar with the site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► mighty God king.com know it's a Canadian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► Christopher Byrd and he blogs about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► comics a lot of the site called mighty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► God king.com and back when Marvel did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► Civil War arc and all the titans he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► really basically rewrote the dialogue is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► a parody and satire and the reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► bring this up is because i actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► think he's got one of the most spot on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► Reed Richards where he's managed to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► get to the heart of the the guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► completely different plane as the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► of us where the very last issue that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► rewrote his Reed Richards writing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► letter to see which is we have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► children don't worry i think the girl in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► the boy if that's what they are I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► they miss you and you and I go to end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► its hilarious at the same time without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► yeah this guy has managed to nail his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► character and that's part of the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► is American cinema has kind of been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► reflexive tendency to really dislike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► intellectuals like they just think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► audiences can connect with them right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► and there has to be there has to be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► than being huge brain it no not always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► sometimes you just have somebody who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► really smart and they're much smarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► than you are and yeah I'm not sure I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► believe will get that that read in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► live-action fantastic four movies was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3038">TS</a>]
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00:50:43 ◼ ► told us he was smart I think that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► they try think that's where Howard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► Griffin was trying to play it as though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► you know I think my lofty thoughts and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► don't think through the consequences and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► so I spent a lot of time looking stunned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► in the headlights that mark guy because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3053">TS</a>]
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00:50:59 ◼ ► time both movies just kind of like Shh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3059">TS</a>]
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00:51:03 ◼ ► before projections didn't take this into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► account even if you're that smart they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► yeah it's the thought 36 things down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3067">TS</a>]
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00:51:16 ◼ ► think about this their digital Einstein [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► your you know I checked you're right we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► do values to pity George would work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► the people who wanted the people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► artists one nothing with Stephen Colbert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► to right right yeah we're smart enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► without the need of fat readiness and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► yes that truthiness is what is important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► yeah i think you know so I think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► what I know it's what I feel in here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► yeah i feel that i might know thanks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► evidence so so before we go because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► um I wanted to get Jason you seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► have done the most homework here what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► essential reading if they want to if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► they're struck by this podcast to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► back and read some fantastic four will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► throw in any way to spend well I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3117">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► stupid unstable molecules worth a look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► unstable molecules i think is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► just a good comic if you like comics I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► great nothing to do with the Fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► Four it's just a good read it is now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► original you read the original leaker p [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► no yeah no it doesn't hold up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► sense that you know you would put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► against like comics today as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► storytelling and paste and all that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► for like a view of sixties mentality you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► know that they're getting into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► rocket and those original strips there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► a great panel were like yeah I think Ben [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► Graham says oh you know maybe I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► know if this is ready yet and Reed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► Richards response do you want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► commies to beat us you are you Howard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► you so just the sort of Cold War sixties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► mentality in the comic it's great and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► Kirby's artwork is fantastic and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► that's considered to be their best work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► right meow again and the introduction of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► the silver surfer and Galactus and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► there's some great stuff right in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3177">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► but it's more anthropological like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► how does the burn run hold up burn run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► holds up really really well in my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► that's like it has a set different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► science fiction it also has those great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► although it doesn't hold up as them as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► family as much more interested in them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► as individuals and the science-fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► she-hulk into yeah that was kind of fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► isn't just a do not everybody there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► so many stories and like you had in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► eighties we're halfway through the issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► you're like is this one issue because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► beginning middle and they go somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► the introduces new science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► concepts and some alien has taken over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► whatever and they're like all caught and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► then they're escaping and then they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► out you're like holy shit that was 22 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► also watch the doctor who references [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► because john byrne being canadian grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► experiment a lot of Doctor Who and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► there are so many doctor who references [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► that he sort of lifts actually he were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► sort of steals things from dr. and puts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► them in fantastic four students it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► that after the kirby run which you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3237">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► paperbacks which are like 14 box or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► hundred-dollar oversized hardcover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► edition the burn run you can get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► trade paperbacks I think there's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► nine of them though it was a pretty big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► yeah run and then i would say the mill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► our hitch which is much more recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► modern storytelling pacing field which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► max but to show how bad did commercially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► they didn't never did like the hardcover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► oversized which they don't have every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► other hitch artwork because here the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► artwork is beautiful but they didn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► it with that they did solicit it but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► never came out with on orders were that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► low which is chalking I think those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► three there's an interesting uh nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3280">TS</a>]
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00:54:46 ◼ ► listeners out there that you should get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3286">TS</a>]
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00:54:51 ◼ ► check out youtube for a thing ring do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3291">TS</a>]
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00:54:59 ◼ ► the website you just mentioned mighty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► look for the Civil War PDFs that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► got there because they're just fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► they were very funny and then we didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► really touch on it but so do we we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► talk about 1600 do more the game the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3312">TS</a>]
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00:55:17 ◼ ► gonna have to do just a planetary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► podcast on giants worthless own but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► planetary had to take on the Fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► Four in 1602 i really liked how that how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► they had read and and and dr. doom and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► and that was Neil came in right now we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► haven't even yeah yeah he really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► ideas because stock-in-trade he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► playing and donated all of the proceeds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► to that one to his the comics legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► defense fund for a miracle man marvel is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► basically a finger to segment not Seth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► MacFarlane todd mcfarlane I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► other McFarland the finger because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► don't think family guy's funny but sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► everybody but Todd McFarland yes who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3347">TS</a>]
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00:55:52 ◼ ► really going at it and it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► happening anyway 1602 is great i bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► the heart number of that it is our and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► another again another nice standalone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3358">TS</a>]
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00:56:01 ◼ ► know anything about continuity but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► you ever read Marvel Comics you will get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► a kick out of seeing these characters in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► a seventeenth-century setting early 17th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► century setting it is brilliant the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► Daniel given guy he's he's good he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► going places her head of my things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► pretty good if he if he works hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► wheaties right comes up with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► yep alright well thank you the comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► book club members once again for coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► in Jason private thanks a lot thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► Lisa Schmeisser thank you for coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► thank you and I'm Jason Snelling until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► next time thanks for listening to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYfcTWE/3393">TS</a>]
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