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9: Get the Bone Saw!

 

00:00:00   do you have your blue blankie handy in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/0">TS</a>]

00:00:04   case things get a little too scary on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/4">TS</a>]

00:00:06   this podcast i can hide under the desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/6">TS</a>]

00:00:09   that's good I i could pull the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/9">TS</a>]

00:00:10   microphone down there too but if I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/10">TS</a>]

00:00:12   to continue podcasting while while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/12">TS</a>]

00:00:15   hiding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/15">TS</a>]

00:00:16   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/16">TS</a>]

00:00:26   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/26">TS</a>]

00:00:30   this is the incomparable podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/30">TS</a>]

00:00:33   fantastic and the subject today as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/33">TS</a>]

00:00:36   headed on toward halloween is all thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/36">TS</a>]

00:00:38   Carrie and the only people i could get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/38">TS</a>]

00:00:40   to come on this podcast are two of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/40">TS</a>]

00:00:43   scariest people i know Steve let's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/43">TS</a>]

00:00:45   ben boychuk thank you sir appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/45">TS</a>]

00:00:48   that assessment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/48">TS</a>]

00:00:49   yeah well you're very welcome banner you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/49">TS</a>]

00:00:51   was still alive review been horribly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/51">TS</a>]

00:00:53   killed by a an axe murderer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/53">TS</a>]

00:00:56   don't be alarmed his call is coming from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/56">TS</a>]

00:00:59   inside for coming tomorrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/59">TS</a>]

00:01:01   oh I am alarmed i'm horribly alarmed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/61">TS</a>]

00:01:05   so we have actually had an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/65">TS</a>]

00:01:06   email thread when we were putting this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/66">TS</a>]

00:01:08   together which it was that I'm it turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/68">TS</a>]

00:01:10   out that a lot of our regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/70">TS</a>]

00:01:11   contributors to the podcast are afraid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/71">TS</a>]

00:01:13   of are afraid of being scared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/73">TS</a>]

00:01:15   which you know i guess i can guess and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/75">TS</a>]

00:01:17   then there was this whole conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/77">TS</a>]

00:01:18   about like good horror and bad horror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/78">TS</a>]

00:01:20   and what makes a good kind of scary or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/80">TS</a>]

00:01:23   horror movie versus what you know which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/83">TS</a>]

00:01:27   ones are bad and I'm just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/87">TS</a>]

00:01:29   curious what you guys think what what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/89">TS</a>]

00:01:32   an example of of something if somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/92">TS</a>]

00:01:35   wants to watch something that is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/95">TS</a>]

00:01:36   to put them in the Halloween spirit with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/96">TS</a>]

00:01:38   the kind of stuff they should be going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/98">TS</a>]

00:01:39   for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/99">TS</a>]

00:01:40   well it again it depends largely on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/100">TS</a>]

00:01:42   whether you're the kind of candy ass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/102">TS</a>]

00:01:44   that apparently the rest of the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/104">TS</a>]

00:01:45   people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/105">TS</a>]

00:01:46   yes 10 20 Hertz or if you're into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/106">TS</a>]

00:01:49   something maybe a little more gruesome a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/109">TS</a>]

00:01:51   little more gory I think just in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/111">TS</a>]

00:01:54   most people will say or at least will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/114">TS</a>]

00:01:56   only admit to appreciating films that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/116">TS</a>]

00:01:58   are a little more subtle little less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/118">TS</a>]

00:02:00   blood intensive and I can sort of see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/120">TS</a>]

00:02:03   their point there although and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/123">TS</a>]

00:02:04   personal opinion is any horror is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/124">TS</a>]

00:02:06   generally good horror and even bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/126">TS</a>]

00:02:08   horror is is frequently entertaining to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/128">TS</a>]

00:02:11   some extent you can watch these classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/131">TS</a>]

00:02:14   seventies Italian gorefest and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/134">TS</a>]

00:02:17   laugh your ass off for an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/137">TS</a>]

00:02:19   see now it's funny that you mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/139">TS</a>]

00:02:20   that I i was going to say that the times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/140">TS</a>]

00:02:22   that i have watched something that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/142">TS</a>]

00:02:23   be classified as horror or kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/143">TS</a>]

00:02:25   horror like the ones that I've enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/145">TS</a>]

00:02:28   are the ones where i felt like i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/148">TS</a>]

00:02:29   laugh and not just you know I guess it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/149">TS</a>]

00:02:32   a combination right it's sort of a laugh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/152">TS</a>]

00:02:33   as a release from what you're seeing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/153">TS</a>]

00:02:35   also that they they can be really funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/155">TS</a>]

00:02:37   and have a sense of humor and for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/157">TS</a>]

00:02:38   that can make the difference between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/158">TS</a>]

00:02:40   something being kind of just deadly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/160">TS</a>]

00:02:43   being entertaining LOL frequently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/163">TS</a>]

00:02:45   they're just so bad for you but yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/165">TS</a>]

00:02:48   mean a lot of actually a lot of recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/168">TS</a>]

00:02:50   releases since I guess the dawn of irony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/170">TS</a>]

00:02:53   in the last couple of decades no irony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/173">TS</a>]

00:02:57   yeah well you know it has spawned some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/177">TS</a>]

00:02:59   good things like it's some decent horror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/179">TS</a>]

00:03:02   movies with some some actual humor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/182">TS</a>]

00:03:05   content to them there's generally some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/185">TS</a>]

00:03:06   good dark humor involved you know I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/186">TS</a>]

00:03:10   back maybe to the screen series as as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/190">TS</a>]

00:03:12   the first good example of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/192">TS</a>]

00:03:14   yeah yeah and then and a few more recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/194">TS</a>]

00:03:17   entries like Ginger Snaps was I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/197">TS</a>]

00:03:19   very funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/199">TS</a>]

00:03:20   now what does that tell me about that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/200">TS</a>]

00:03:21   a werewolf movie that likens the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/201">TS</a>]

00:03:25   lycanthrope e turning into a werewolf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/205">TS</a>]

00:03:27   business to the onset of puberty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/207">TS</a>]

00:03:29   particularly in the case of girls so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/209">TS</a>]

00:03:33   there's a young young last named ginger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/213">TS</a>]

00:03:37   ah yes yeah I think I see where you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/217">TS</a>]

00:03:39   going here at the wesley that's the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/219">TS</a>]

00:03:41   of hilarious glorious holiday i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/221">TS</a>]

00:03:43   talking about so not very similar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/223">TS</a>]

00:03:46   she and her sister are young goth teens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/226">TS</a>]

00:03:49   who are very into the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/229">TS</a>]

00:03:51   over-the-top gore and I think the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/231">TS</a>]

00:03:54   the the sequence over the credits is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/234">TS</a>]

00:03:57   them basically staging glory deaths for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/237">TS</a>]

00:03:59   themselves because they're both don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01   think your listeners and they like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/241">TS</a>]

00:04:04   sit around in their room and think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/244">TS</a>]

00:04:06   how they're going to die horrific Lee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/246">TS</a>]

00:04:07   any day now and the one girl happens to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/247">TS</a>]

00:04:11   get her period and immediately after she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/251">TS</a>]

00:04:15   and her sister are walking through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/255">TS</a>]

00:04:16   park and they're attacked by a werewolf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/256">TS</a>]

00:04:18   so over the next few days weeks whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/258">TS</a>]

00:04:21   the that the girl begins to transform in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/261">TS</a>]

00:04:26   a multitude of ways and it draws some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/266">TS</a>]

00:04:32   interesting parallels i think in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/272">TS</a>]

00:04:34   addition to being just a genuinely scary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/274">TS</a>]

00:04:36   werewolf movie with the eye with non CGI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/276">TS</a>]

00:04:39   effects which is also a positive thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/279">TS</a>]

00:04:41   in this day and age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/281">TS</a>]

00:04:43   so I i highly recommend it it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/283">TS</a>]

00:04:46   it's scary it's funny the werewolf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/286">TS</a>]

00:04:48   action is not as cheesy as one has come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/288">TS</a>]

00:04:51   to expect and and like my idea of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/291">TS</a>]

00:04:54   other layer there i mean that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/294">TS</a>]

00:04:56   that's what hooked me on the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/296">TS</a>]

00:04:57   season of buffy the vampire slayer which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/297">TS</a>]

00:05:00   was really low budget and what I when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/300">TS</a>]

00:05:02   got out of it was that they were taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/302">TS</a>]

00:05:03   some of these classic horror movie kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/303">TS</a>]

00:05:06   of scenarios and you know playing them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/306">TS</a>]

00:05:08   as having their equivalents in kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/308">TS</a>]

00:05:11   team in highschool angst and and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/311">TS</a>]

00:05:13   was a that was a good call that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/313">TS</a>]

00:05:15   worked for sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/315">TS</a>]

00:05:16   yeah and I think it has a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/316">TS</a>]

00:05:17   parallels to to Buffy in that respect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/317">TS</a>]

00:05:20   and it's also very smart which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/320">TS</a>]

00:05:23   something you don't often get the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/323">TS</a>]

00:05:25   dialogue is sharp the girls don't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/325">TS</a>]

00:05:27   shaky the acting is very good both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/327">TS</a>]

00:05:29   the girls particularly the the sister [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/329">TS</a>]

00:05:31   who basically is charged with making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/331">TS</a>]

00:05:34   sure that her werewolf a sibling doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/334">TS</a>]

00:05:38   mall the whole school she's fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/338">TS</a>]

00:05:41   emily perkins is your name and she's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/341">TS</a>]

00:05:43   don't think she's gone on to do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/343">TS</a>]

00:05:44   but other than the two sequels which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/344">TS</a>]

00:05:48   guess declined in quality pretty rapidly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/348">TS</a>]

00:05:50   as they tend to do but yeah just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/350">TS</a>]

00:05:53   excellent film i would recommend that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/353">TS</a>]

00:05:54   one recent I think it's about 2003 call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/354">TS</a>]

00:05:57   Canadian so you know it has that going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/357">TS</a>]

00:06:00   against it but yeah yeah so they say all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/360">TS</a>]

00:06:02   sorts of a suspicious things like a boot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/362">TS</a>]

00:06:05   and indeed and in fact I think perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/365">TS</a>]

00:06:07   the most controversial thing is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/367">TS</a>]

00:06:09   movie does include scenes of field [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/369">TS</a>]

00:06:11   hockey so yeah you gotta be prepared for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/371">TS</a>]

00:06:14   that was writing thanksgiving happens in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/374">TS</a>]

00:06:17   october and it's very mysterious why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/377">TS</a>]

00:06:18   that is never explained it's a mystery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/378">TS</a>]

00:06:24   um I that's great i'm going to put that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/384">TS</a>]

00:06:27   on my list that's actually i'm excited i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/387">TS</a>]

00:06:29   was going to say the only things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/389">TS</a>]

00:06:30   would even classify as remotely can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/390">TS</a>]

00:06:32   could be considered horror that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/392">TS</a>]

00:06:34   I've seen in the last 10 years are well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/394">TS</a>]

00:06:38   you know is let the right one in really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/398">TS</a>]

00:06:40   really horror I mean it's kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/400">TS</a>]

00:06:43   us a Swedish drama that happens to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/403">TS</a>]

00:06:46   a vampire in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/406">TS</a>]

00:06:48   yeah I haven't actually seen it in its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/408">TS</a>]

00:06:50   entirety yeah it's good I liked it a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/410">TS</a>]

00:06:53   ahead of me and what looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/413">TS</a>]

00:06:55   the-the-the ravaging of the film by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/415">TS</a>]

00:06:58   whatever the new let me in that rise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/418">TS</a>]

00:07:01   come out I've seen the ads for that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/421">TS</a>]

00:07:03   sort of shaking my head thinking well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/423">TS</a>]

00:07:04   this looks like a coupling all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/424">TS</a>]

00:07:08   again and what that that's always the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/428">TS</a>]

00:07:10   fear although i've seen some positive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/430">TS</a>]

00:07:11   things about you I don't know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/431">TS</a>]

00:07:13   Let The Right One In was really good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/433">TS</a>]

00:07:15   any other two that i guess i would put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/435">TS</a>]

00:07:16   in this category are 28 days later and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/436">TS</a>]

00:07:20   Shaun of the Dead which again more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/440">TS</a>]

00:07:22   prepared and start yet but still a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/442">TS</a>]

00:07:24   great movie and 20 days later I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26   liked him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/446">TS</a>]

00:07:26   I think one of the reasons i liked it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/446">TS</a>]

00:07:28   that it was almost like a in an action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/448">TS</a>]

00:07:31   movie with horror pieces in it and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/451">TS</a>]

00:07:33   sort of your your your usual like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/453">TS</a>]

00:07:35   stereotypical horror kind of setup sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/455">TS</a>]

00:07:39   you have also mentioned cloverfield [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/459">TS</a>]

00:07:42   right Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/462">TS</a>]

00:07:43   yeah well what would you I mean that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/463">TS</a>]

00:07:44   monster movie i love cloverfield i'm one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/464">TS</a>]

00:07:47   of those people who thinks be and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/467">TS</a>]

00:07:49   the guy who directed the let the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/469">TS</a>]

00:07:51   one in remake actually the same guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/471">TS</a>]

00:07:53   believes yeah and I'll of cloverfield [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/473">TS</a>]

00:07:55   which I know a lot of people complain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/475">TS</a>]

00:07:58   because it's this sort of you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/478">TS</a>]

00:08:00   that 20-somethings at a party and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/480">TS</a>]

00:08:03   their home video footage and yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/483">TS</a>]

00:08:05   true but for me the idea of saying okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/485">TS</a>]

00:08:08   after nine eleven we've really seen what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/488">TS</a>]

00:08:10   massive destruction in a major city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/490">TS</a>]

00:08:12   really looks like in real life so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/492">TS</a>]

00:08:16   if there was a giant godzilla-like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/496">TS</a>]

00:08:17   monster walking through a city it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/497">TS</a>]

00:08:19   be pretty horrific and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/499">TS</a>]

00:08:21   buildings with building's coming down as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/501">TS</a>]

00:08:24   a lot of effect beyond what it did when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26   it was a guy in a suit in a styrofoam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/506">TS</a>]

00:08:28   tower you know flew off in a block and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/508">TS</a>]

00:08:31   found that really effective that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/511">TS</a>]

00:08:33   know we you know you you take a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/513">TS</a>]

00:08:35   monster and put them in New York and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/515">TS</a>]

00:08:37   we know what's going to happen and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/517">TS</a>]

00:08:38   going to be terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/518">TS</a>]

00:08:40   that's my clover field tonight and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/520">TS</a>]

00:08:41   has yeah the benefit and we'll go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/521">TS</a>]

00:08:44   i was just gonna say it has the benefit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/524">TS</a>]

00:08:46   over the classic Japanese horror movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/526">TS</a>]

00:08:47   and not having tiny japanese boys and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/527">TS</a>]

00:08:50   very small disturbing shorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/530">TS</a>]

00:08:52   yes also know Raymond Burr members [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/532">TS</a>]

00:08:55   present always a plus bi I would count [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/535">TS</a>]

00:08:57   that against it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/537">TS</a>]

00:08:58   alright well he's he's um he's dead now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/538">TS</a>]

00:09:01   so we're going to horrific reanimated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/541">TS</a>]

00:09:03   corpse of rain well okay i might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/543">TS</a>]

00:09:04   batted in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/544">TS</a>]

00:09:05   actually yes that would have been that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/545">TS</a>]

00:09:07   would have put it over the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/547">TS</a>]

00:09:09   cloverfield over-the-top if the zombie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/549">TS</a>]

00:09:11   zombie Raymond Burr appears at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/551">TS</a>]

00:09:13   and says this has been a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/553">TS</a>]

00:09:15   mistake and has tried to do things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/555">TS</a>]

00:09:17   he should never have tried and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/557">TS</a>]

00:09:19   cloverfield was the result [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/559">TS</a>]

00:09:21   now I must go any brains I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/561">TS</a>]

00:09:25   understand why you know what the hell's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/565">TS</a>]

00:09:27   the matter with these geeks what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/567">TS</a>]

00:09:30   you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/570">TS</a>]

00:09:31   ok so think about all the sort of horror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/571">TS</a>]

00:09:36   sci-fi crossovers that all the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/576">TS</a>]

00:09:40   people who regularly participate on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/580">TS</a>]

00:09:42   podcast have seen and could talk about i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/582">TS</a>]

00:09:46   know i mean think about like I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/586">TS</a>]

00:09:48   for example you guys I think you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/588">TS</a>]

00:09:50   talking about saw scared them scared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/590">TS</a>]

00:09:53   them well yeah i'm going to bring us all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55   until long after everybody had already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/595">TS</a>]

00:09:57   stepped up as being punk ass pumps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59   yes you think it would think about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/599">TS</a>]

00:10:02   alien mean there you got it you got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/602">TS</a>]

00:10:04   sci-fi horror that's more of a mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/604">TS</a>]

00:10:07   really it's more of a horror film one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/607">TS</a>]

00:10:09   those is absolutely a horror movie on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/609">TS</a>]

00:10:12   spaceship but that's that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/612">TS</a>]

00:10:14   really a horrible when it's a great one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/614">TS</a>]

00:10:15   but i think you know honestly Ben I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/615">TS</a>]

00:10:19   think one of the reasons that this came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/619">TS</a>]

00:10:21   up and we can talk about saw and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/621">TS</a>]

00:10:24   movies like that if if you want to but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/624">TS</a>]

00:10:26   think what this started with is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/626">TS</a>]

00:10:28   especially when we were you know teenage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/628">TS</a>]

00:10:31   movie goers the the whole run of friday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/631">TS</a>]

00:10:34   the thirteenth and halloween and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/634">TS</a>]

00:10:38   know all of those kind of really cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/638">TS</a>]

00:10:40   schwake horror movies I think made a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/640">TS</a>]

00:10:45   of people including myself say well I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/645">TS</a>]

00:10:47   not interested in that stuff and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/647">TS</a>]

00:10:48   that's not to say that we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/648">TS</a>]

00:10:49   interested in scary movies or even kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/649">TS</a>]

00:10:52   of bloody awful horror horrible movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/652">TS</a>]

00:10:55   it's just that you know some of it got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/655">TS</a>]

00:10:57   that taint of and i like to say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/657">TS</a>]

00:10:58   that ate that's where you see if he'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/658">TS</a>]

00:11:01   appreciate that of of you know just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/661">TS</a>]

00:11:05   schlock of you know Freddy Krueger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/665">TS</a>]

00:11:07   nightmare on elm street part 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/667">TS</a>]

00:11:10   well that's but that's always been the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/670">TS</a>]

00:11:12   case and still is today I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14   if you and that's true with any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16   film you're gonna have one or two gems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/676">TS</a>]

00:11:19   in the mountain of crap so even as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/679">TS</a>]

00:11:22   were getting the you know friday the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/682">TS</a>]

00:11:24   13th part 37 Jason goes to receita you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/684">TS</a>]

00:11:29   know we also had the know that's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/689">TS</a>]

00:11:31   we had poltergeist which was a fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/691">TS</a>]

00:11:33   movie I still considered amongst the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/693">TS</a>]

00:11:36   best that I've at least in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/696">TS</a>]

00:11:39   scariness that I've ever seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/699">TS</a>]

00:11:41   we had that without there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/701">TS</a>]

00:11:45   classic skating eighties films that none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/705">TS</a>]

00:11:47   of which are jumping to mind at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/707">TS</a>]

00:11:48   moment of course because we're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/708">TS</a>]

00:11:50   think of the point is that in any genre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/710">TS</a>]

00:11:51   you're going to get the flock and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/711">TS</a>]

00:11:53   gonna get the flock that people know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/713">TS</a>]

00:11:54   and becomes popular because that's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/714">TS</a>]

00:11:56   of the reasons it becomes popular is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/716">TS</a>]

00:11:59   of them hits and then they run into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/719">TS</a>]

00:12:00   ground in order to make money at it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/720">TS</a>]

00:12:02   it's not necessarily those of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/722">TS</a>]

00:12:04   movies that are the best representatives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/724">TS</a>]

00:12:06   of the genre there there's the ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/726">TS</a>]

00:12:08   everybody hears about that give the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/728">TS</a>]

00:12:09   Sonora bad name right i mean you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/729">TS</a>]

00:12:12   about and we could run down friday the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/732">TS</a>]

00:12:15   thirteenth and and Nightmare on Elm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/735">TS</a>]

00:12:17   Street but I mean for the first the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/737">TS</a>]

00:12:19   first and second but really the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/739">TS</a>]

00:12:21   friday the 13th really good that was and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/741">TS</a>]

00:12:25   you know and the first nightmare as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/745">TS</a>]

00:12:26   and the first nightmare was magnificent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/746">TS</a>]

00:12:29   and you know we they sort of became self [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/749">TS</a>]

00:12:33   parodies after after four five or six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/753">TS</a>]

00:12:36   and i think in part that was why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/756">TS</a>]

00:12:37   were so popular because they are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/757">TS</a>]

00:12:39   weren't frightening in any way people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/759">TS</a>]

00:12:41   would go to one with their friends and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/761">TS</a>]

00:12:42   they sit around and laugh because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/762">TS</a>]

00:12:44   knew basically it was going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/764">TS</a>]

00:12:45   Seventeen's die one survives and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/765">TS</a>]

00:12:49   know there really isn't anything to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/769">TS</a>]

00:12:50   concerned about because you already know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/770">TS</a>]

00:12:52   what's going to happen right right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/772">TS</a>]

00:12:55   and and so a lot of that stuff you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/775">TS</a>]

00:12:58   I I have very fond memories is seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/778">TS</a>]

00:13:02   those know what I was a when I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/782">TS</a>]

00:13:04   teenager that the movies that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06   stick in my head though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/786">TS</a>]

00:13:07   mino-the-cat are kind of the movies that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/787">TS</a>]

00:13:10   that i ran across women when I was maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/790">TS</a>]

00:13:12   11 or 12 or 13 years old on cable should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/792">TS</a>]

00:13:17   we should we be veering off into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/797">TS</a>]

00:13:19   territory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/799">TS</a>]

00:13:20   I thought this was about horror movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/800">TS</a>]

00:13:22   oh yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/802">TS</a>]

00:13:23   yeah i'll probably but c'mon man we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/803">TS</a>]

00:13:28   didn't have those channels that we did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/808">TS</a>]

00:13:30   but they were on the UHF channels and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/810">TS</a>]

00:13:32   they were scrambled so right so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/812">TS</a>]

00:13:33   only hear them right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/813">TS</a>]

00:13:34   I spent all my time trying to squeeze my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/814">TS</a>]

00:13:36   eyes did exactly the right angle so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/816">TS</a>]

00:13:38   the green twisted boob would form into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/818">TS</a>]

00:13:41   an actually you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/821">TS</a>]

00:13:42   normal human looking but you got to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/822">TS</a>]

00:13:45   a lot of music with the want people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/825">TS</a>]

00:13:46   it and it always is he didn't other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/826">TS</a>]

00:13:49   noises you didn't understand but no I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/829">TS</a>]

00:13:52   thinking if I mean I think of stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/832">TS</a>]

00:13:54   remember the old z channel I'm did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/834">TS</a>]

00:13:57   guys ever have those each I was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/837">TS</a>]

00:13:59   wasn't so that was an LA thing i know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/839">TS</a>]

00:14:00   don't think i ever and I think so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/840">TS</a>]

00:14:02   yeah that you know and we had to the Z [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/842">TS</a>]

00:14:04   gentleman you know in the late seventies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/844">TS</a>]

00:14:06   and early eighties and you know HBO and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/846">TS</a>]

00:14:08   showtime so run across movies like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/848">TS</a>]

00:14:13   ghost story changeling which i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/853">TS</a>]

00:14:16   saw probably 25 tile of the changeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/856">TS</a>]

00:14:20   so tell me about that and it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/860">TS</a>]

00:14:22   clear here there is angelina jolie is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24   not involved in any way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26   no no this was this was the start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/866">TS</a>]

00:14:29   George see Scott who is often mistaken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/869">TS</a>]

00:14:31   for Angelina Jolie well you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/871">TS</a>]

00:14:33   understand the lips and the changeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/873">TS</a>]

00:14:38   came out i think in that I think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/878">TS</a>]

00:14:40   19-8 i want to say d1 yeah 80 or 81 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/880">TS</a>]

00:14:46   start George see Scott moves into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/886">TS</a>]

00:14:50   this old mansion which was previously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/890">TS</a>]

00:14:53   occupied by the family of this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/893">TS</a>]

00:14:56   powerful United States Senator in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/896">TS</a>]

00:14:59   strange things start to happen a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/899">TS</a>]

00:15:02   ways you know that you know since it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/902">TS</a>]

00:15:04   sort of a clichéd ghost type of movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/904">TS</a>]

00:15:08   you know with things that go bump in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/908">TS</a>]

00:15:10   night right no he's just starts to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/910">TS</a>]

00:15:13   things and hear things and in the Attic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/913">TS</a>]

00:15:15   upstairs and he starts to piece together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/915">TS</a>]

00:15:18   the history of this house who live there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/918">TS</a>]

00:15:21   now is he staying in the house because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/921">TS</a>]

00:15:22   it was willed to him by a relative who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/922">TS</a>]

00:15:24   said he had to stay there one night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/924">TS</a>]

00:15:26   before he could inherit of and he's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/926">TS</a>]

00:15:28   like this is actually they're here this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/928">TS</a>]

00:15:29   is his wife and daughter get killed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/929">TS</a>]

00:15:32   the opening frame to the movies right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/932">TS</a>]

00:15:34   yeah that's right hit by a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/934">TS</a>]

00:15:36   it there i think their cargoes out in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/936">TS</a>]

00:15:38   snowstorm and they're hiking to a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/938">TS</a>]

00:15:40   or something and turns around and sees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/940">TS</a>]

00:15:42   his wife and daughter getting barreled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/942">TS</a>]

00:15:43   over by a by a semi and so yeah there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/943">TS</a>]

00:15:46   a lot of emotional resonance in the film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/946">TS</a>]

00:15:48   because he's dealing with the death of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/948">TS</a>]

00:15:49   his wife and daughter and yet there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/949">TS</a>]

00:15:50   this spirit of what turns out to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/950">TS</a>]

00:15:53   very young child that's right sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/953">TS</a>]

00:15:56   calling out to him through his grief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/956">TS</a>]

00:15:58   huh yeah and it's that there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/958">TS</a>]

00:16:00   banging on the pipes in the house and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/960">TS</a>]

00:16:03   think there's a great scene where a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/963">TS</a>]

00:16:05   rubber ball that I think belong to his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/965">TS</a>]

00:16:07   daughter I comes rolling down the stairs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/967">TS</a>]

00:16:11   bouncing down the stairs yeah and and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/971">TS</a>]

00:16:13   throws it in his rage that you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/973">TS</a>]

00:16:16   it's his daughter and he has these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/976">TS</a>]

00:16:17   memories he throws it down the hall and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/977">TS</a>]

00:16:20   he goes back and sits down and tries to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/980">TS</a>]

00:16:22   start writing again and he hears the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/982">TS</a>]

00:16:24   ball come rolling down the stairs again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/984">TS</a>]

00:16:26   right it's a great scene and pen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/986">TS</a>]

00:16:29   its the hole filled up is just filled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/989">TS</a>]

00:16:31   with spots like that just kind of make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/991">TS</a>]

00:16:34   your your spine quiver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/994">TS</a>]

00:16:36   yeah and you know and they're there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/996">TS</a>]

00:16:39   elements of that film in particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/999">TS</a>]

00:16:40   everyone you when you find out you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:43   what happened to the child and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:45   know there's no Senor the climax of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:48   movie where you kind of you don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:51   know you see this this small child's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:54   fist banging against the side of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:57   bathtub and that's kind of a banging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:59   that he's been hearing throughout this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:00   whole picture and it you know it hits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:03   you what is happening and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05   that's the horror of the thing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:07   the horror picture and you realize when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:10   you want you realize what has happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:12   and and those are the kind of horror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:15   movies and I that I really liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:17   we talked about this Jason we when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:21   did the infinite monkeys podcast about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:23   year ago talking about these pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:25   and one of the things that came up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:27   that was this idea of the things unseen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:31   are almost you know as horrible or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:34   more horrible than the sort of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:36   that you see on screen now within a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:38   of these core pictures and you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:40   the horror of of this this child being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:43   murdered in a tub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:45   you know it's stuck with me now for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:48   for 30 years more so than any sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:52   you know so some guy getting is giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:55   his head blown off or anything yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:57   right yeah yeah i mean do you agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1077">TS</a>]

00:18:01   that Steve I mean I i know you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:02   slightly different take on on some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:04   the you know some of the saw pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:06   and hostile thing ya know I do agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:08   with that I i think that it plays I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:12   think more on the sort of the the fears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:15   that we had when we were kids you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:17   when we'd be walking down a dark hole in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:19   our house in the middle of the night and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:20   we'd hear something move and of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:22   we never see it because it was now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:24   I the air-conditioning kicking on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:26   blowing something over or something but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:28   it's just made all the tariff all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:32   more terrifying by that fact i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:34   probably the best example of that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:35   that i can think of is is the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:38   haunting which is josh i think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:42   actually rated g I mean there's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:43   nothing in there that's that's gory or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:46   even all that frightening certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:47   nothing in your face and there's scene i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:50   remember from when I was a kid that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:52   it's really nothing I go back and look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:54   at it today but there's just again with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:57   some there they're staying in this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:58   haunted house and and there's just this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:03   banging going on arm again you know not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:07   screaming not not anything that sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:09   like anything that would be scary but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:11   the same time it's just you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:12   banging is going on over and over again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14   and the camerawork they just sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:16   zoom in on this section of the wall and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:19   there's really nothing there but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:21   you're watching and you're hearing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:22   banging and the characters in the room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:24   are starting to get increasingly freaked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:26   out by this banging you kind of think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:28   you can see this face in the pattern on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:30   the wall but it's it to this day I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:33   still not really sure it was there or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:35   whether i was just sort of imagining it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:37   and I i think those eyes those tend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:39   be a lot more effective simply because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:41   you know you don't really have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:44   payoff of seeing you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:46   bloody entrails like you do with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:48   zombie film you just have to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:50   continue after you've seen the film to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:53   think about it and kind of wonder what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:54   the hell was bad so I think it sticks in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:56   your mind a bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:57   yeah I think that's right i think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:59   right and and I think that mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:02   you know I like I do like some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:04   some of the gore films and we did chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:07   about this on on on email before we did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:11   this and I and I I the soft films don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:14   do anything for me and then and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:16   hospital pictures don't do anything for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:18   me that there have been a few that i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:21   really liked and I do love you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:24   going back to what we were discussing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:25   earlier you know that some of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:27   films from the eighties some of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:29   sequel some of those bad friday 13 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:31   sequels or actually more than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:33   nightmare on elm street sequels to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:35   the dream warriors effect that this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:42   know that you can kind of see where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:44   know Craven was already leaning to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:48   on the screen pictures in those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:49   nightmare films i think you know became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:52   sort of self-consciously i'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:55   how many of those he actually even held [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:57   I think he gave up after the second or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:58   third film and just sort of how you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:00   you may be right i don't remember who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:01   did that the dream wars won I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:04   remember seeing that the theater bell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:06   and I remember the soundtrack for it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:08   remember is I think somebody actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:10   semi-famous was in that last shoot I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:16   don't have it at my disposal so I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:18   thinking about other movies that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:20   seen that I might I might drop into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:22   category and actually while you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:24   looking that up because I can hear the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:26   sounds of the Internet in the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:28   I'll Patricia Arquette believe she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:31   going to meet the mute girl right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:34   the blonde mute girls that's right cam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:36   exploit yeah apparently Laurence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:38   Fishburne made an appearance this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:40   podcast brought to you by IMDb yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:44   oh you internet so celebrating 20 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:46   of being the best side of the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:49   anyway go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:50   well the original terminator if we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:52   about is this action movie franchise now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:54   but that original terminator movie is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:57   actually I think structurally maybe more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:59   of a horror movie because it's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:01   unstoppable killing machine and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:02   it's coming from the future but it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04   it's dark and kind of gritty and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:06   driving his car into the police station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:09   and he you know he won't stop until he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:11   killed everybody and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:13   I I mean the only genre is run together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:15   but when i watch that movie I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:17   was not just an action movie but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19   know it was it was scary because Arnold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:21   Schwarzenegger who is you know kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:23   taken away from that in the second one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:26   right where they make him the good guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:27   but in the first one is just horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:29   right he's he's he's scary is the scary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:32   endless immortal killing machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:36   yes no yeah no I'm with ya yeah i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:39   so i think there's something to that I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:42   don't ice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:42   I don't see it in quite the same way as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:45   maybe some of these other well no but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:48   I'm just trying to justify that i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:50   a you know I I that I've actually seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:53   movies that might qualify but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:55   so few that how about that how about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:57   zombie movies now I'm I've seen a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:59   but I'm i know this is an entire genre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:01   and it's I I feel like zombies are gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:04   be the next vampire I cannot wait too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:06   late for that they're almost over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:07   exposed now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:09   yeah well I'm going to this vampires are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:10   completely overexposed right mommy's are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:12   headed in that direction this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:14   this hipster zombie thing going on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:16   I'm I'm not really really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:18   all that into hipster zombies yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:21   whenever somebody's not this army [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:22   themselves are hipsters but the hipsters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:24   are big into zombies now huh cheapens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:27   the currents it really does i mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:29   not as bad as say between you know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:32   our vampire fans but I trust it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:35   sort of obnoxious so what if if one was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:39   going to to shop for a a good zombie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:43   movie to watch on what that what Donna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:46   the dad dad was really going on to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:48   dead is it and it has also the advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:52   that it'sit's really also more of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:53   action movie than a horror movie in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:55   lot of ways there's a lot of commandos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:58   running through the mall blowing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:00   heads off a zombie zombies themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:02   are are sort of comical in a way I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:04   they they lumber around they have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:08   kind of bluish cast to the skin so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:10   they almost are more cartoonish than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:12   really horrific and and it has also this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:15   nice undercurrent of George Romero's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:18   social commentary which is a big plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:22   basically the whole thing is the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:23   on consumerism but a pretty good one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:26   think it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:27   the gunk and it has the gonk which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:29   yeah easily the best most iconic horror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:32   tune ever i think with the possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:36   exception of the halloween Thames I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:39   thought the remake those for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:40   Snyder's we make it was pretty good yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:43   but again I expected to dislike it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:45   because of the the whole fact that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:47   turned into the the running zombies as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:48   opposed to the lumbering zombies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:50   yes that's that's the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:53   philosophical today it's the 28 days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:55   later style right zombies action zombies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:57   but a it ended up being a great film in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1497">TS</a>]

00:25:00   its own right i think it would probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:01   have improved a lot of people's views if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:05   they hadn't used the dawn of the dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:06   name i think they were there using that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:08   to get butts in seats but had they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:09   called it something completely different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:11   I i think it would have been a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:14   acclaimed by at least people in horror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:16   community I certainly would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:17   more likely to watch it early on rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:20   than grudgingly and with the expectation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:22   that i was going to hate it but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:24   turned out to be as an excellent film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:25   and its own right and also a lot of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:27   a lot of action / horror i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:31   one of the great opening sequences in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:33   recent memory haha because we see ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:35   head shot just in the hell's that guy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:38   name used to torture us in the 830 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:41   Thursday slot on NBC all the time Justin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:43   Lewis who is he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:45   oh he's one of those bit sitcom guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:48   that would show up in the in the 830 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50   slot on NBC along with the comments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:53   along with Jonathan Silverman he was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:55   of those guys that would show up as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:56   supporting character and and he bites it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:59   and then at the opening the one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:01   early early scenes he ends up getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:03   consumed by his young daughter and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:06   a wonderful thing yeah yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:09   for those of us who've just loads his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:12   visits for years upon years what about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:15   I'm zombieland if you see map have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:17   heard that yeah holiday in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19   apparently there's yes it's not yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21   another horror comedy but that's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:23   famous star in it playing himself as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:26   well I won't spoil it but yeah but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:28   very good i don't want to spoil it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:30   it's Bill Murray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:30   haha i think i did there ok he spoiled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:35   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:35   yeah yeah but you don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:37   happens to them I won't tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:39   zombieland was a lot of fun i hear they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:42   make I think they're thinking about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:43   sequel that I don't think that's such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:45   good idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:45   that's yeah yeah I like the I like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:48   said i like the horror comedy thing I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:50   that works for me the idea of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:53   shot Sean of the Dead is such a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:54   movie and I know you know what all but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:55   you know what all the all the gags are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:58   the sort of standard gags but it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:00   legitimately funny and I and has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:02   legitimate scary stuff in it to win it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04   sort of surprises me in a way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:06   were that you appreciated Shauna that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08   much as you did because I think to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:09   really appreciate that movie you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11   be intimately aware with this sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13   zombie clichés that see I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:17   gonna be I think that zombie clichés [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:19   have have have reached down sort of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:21   reach and i'll show ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:24   yeah I think so I think so i'm i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:27   really looking forward to in fact to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:30   walking dead which premieres on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:31   halloween on AMC based on Robert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:33   Kirkman's comic book series which I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:36   read and which is great and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:38   again it's using the trappings of horror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:40   and and they're definitely there i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:42   sure in the show there will be lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:44   zombies getting their heads blown off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:46   but you know it's also a drama about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:48   what happens to the people who were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50   trying to survive the zombie apocalypse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:51   some and I'm looking forward to it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:54   hope they don't mess it up because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:55   comic is very good and i have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:58   followed the comic because i can't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:00   but right uh but yeah that that that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:04   previews look phenomenal for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:06   yeah that's a good idea i mean it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:08   it's a great concept it's a perfect kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:10   of vehicle for a TV show and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:11   doing well six episodes i guess the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:13   first season 6 episode that sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:15   they were really convinced and now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:16   buzz is so good and you know the rumor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:18   is that they've already picked it up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:19   another year because they are so happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:22   with it while so yeah i'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:24   forward to that too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:25   alright I've got the credit of one read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:27   that Justin Lewis here and maybe maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:30   this will always be something on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:32   memory some of his credits include two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:35   guys a girl and a pizza place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:37   I think that was just a guest spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:39   Battery Park which I think lasted one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:41   episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:42   good morning miami on we can't close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:45   that let's see the fighting Fitzgerald's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:48   he was Jim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:50   the level of the gym micro me show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:53   hidden hills how you know that the love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:58   it's doug barber of Hidden Hills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1738">TS</a>]

00:28:59   apparently lasted 17 episodes that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:02   interesting and then he then he got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:03   eaten on dawn of the dead so kudos to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:08   well played sir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:11   zack snyder you're not to like I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:13   get my kudos to our yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:14   yeah your main man matt frewer was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:17   briefly in that we make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:21   oh yeah well that's good well he is zack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:23   snyder seems to use them a lot because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:24   he's also in and watch men as its Moloch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:28   and then here's the trashcan man in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:32   ABC shiny series of this of the stand I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:35   that's what it was he was trying to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:38   know I just stand and saying yeah what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:40   up Stephen Stephen King III guess what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:44   guess we should talk about the shining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:45   though I you know Stanley Kubrick horror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:48   movie director yes no a decent I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:53   know it wasn't shining know it was all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:55   about what I read on the internet it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:59   must be true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:00   yeah it was either about it was either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:03   about how cubic was responsible for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:06   faking the moon landing or a it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:10   completely a metaphor for the American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:13   massacre of the American wow yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:17   that's not all comes from the scene with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:19   the scatman crothers getting hit with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:21   axe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:23   that's supposed to represent a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:24   tomahawk or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:26   no actually no it is there's a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:28   things there's one scene where where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:30   Danny is wearing like a NASA shirt and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:33   that's supposed to be the tip-off that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:35   the moon landing when he was shooting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:38   2001 had he had time to to fake moon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:42   landing for the u.s. government that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:44   nice going to drop those little hints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:45   for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:46   yeah and then there's and then I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:48   there's there's kids throughout that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:50   it's really not about Jack Torrance it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:53   all about we did that things anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:56   that's me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:57   i read it on the Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:58   okay yeah I can't argue with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:03   yeah I like been rejected me I must have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:05   seen it probably 20 times when I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:07   kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:08   Bob and but you know there isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:10   anything that stands out as particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:12   scary in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:13   i I really appreciate a lot of the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:15   long shots which of course is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:18   much what you get with cubic write those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:20   slow steady cam shots yeah i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:23   whole opening is up this long trek up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25   the mountain to get to the Overlook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27   Hotel and that's that's pretty striking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:30   and of course the big pans down the long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:32   hallways are interesting mean it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:34   not particularly true to the text of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:36   book but it's beautifully directed but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:39   again not terribly scary i mean there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:41   a few scenes that I think people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:42   remember just because they saw it when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44   they were young that I guess the blood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:46   rolling out of the elevator and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:48   two little twins twins right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:50   22 and then those of us who are a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:51   older when we saw it appreciated the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:54   naked lady getting out of bathtub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56   yeah but then that we really really it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:58   did as it usually does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:00   so yeah a good film not really a high on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:05   my list but good i do want to go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:08   the saw and hostel that had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:10   mentioned earlier torture porn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:12   yeah I have to but i have to mention it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:15   because I know that that term really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:17   turns you on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:18   well it's just one of those blanket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:19   terms that gets applied to a vast swath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:23   of horror cinema kind of unfairly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:26   think just because there are squeamish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:27   people who don't want to watch this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:29   stuff and so you know i did not a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:33   fan of of terms like that but and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:36   saw in particular I'm not sure really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:38   deserves it because you don't really see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:40   much of anything and saw largely because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:42   it's constant jump cuts and you have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:44   freaking clue what's going on in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:46   moment in the film but I've only seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:50   the first two saw films and both of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:51   basically you're looking at these sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:54   of elaborate traps that have been set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:56   for for the jigsaw killers victims and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:59   very rarely if at all i think do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:01   ever see any of the actual results of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:04   his contraptions but the horror is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:06   situation there right in where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:08   and generally have off your arm in order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10   to escape right whatever it is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12   generally it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:13   it cuts away and you hear scream and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:15   and that's pretty much it so I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:18   sure torture porn really was ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:20   relevant to those those films are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:23   any good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:24   shitty movie was relevant could do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:28   the first film in particular which has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:31   some of the worst acting I think I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33   ever seen a horror movie and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35   that's saying a lot because I've watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:37   a lot of Italian flicks but yeah a 1l is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:40   is miserable he's one of the I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:41   directors and writers of the film and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43   the other one is a guy from the princess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:47   bride westley from the princess bride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49   ariel with cary elwes oh my God he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:51   he's over the top and his accent is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:55   magnificently bad and he's trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:58   an American accent but he slips into his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:00   British frequently and man it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:04   bad stuff and then of course the jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:07   cuts which kind of ruin everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:10   so so so saw but as it to be condemned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:14   because it's bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:15   not because it's torture porn agreed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:17   it really the it's particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:19   disappointing because it's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:22   concept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:23   I mean that it kind of stolen from seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:26   in a lot of ways with good execution it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:29   could have been a good film and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:31   execution was far from good hostel on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:34   the other hand which does show a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:37   more of the blood and gore i think is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:39   quite a good film it is fairly gross but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:43   a lot of the subtext of it is is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:46   less of a hey look at the blood and guts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:48   isn't that great and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:51   this is what happens when you treat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:52   people as things so what's the premise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:56   of hostile the premise of hostel which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2096">TS</a>]

00:35:01   hate to ruin in case there's anybody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:02   hasn't already heard the presence that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:03   the time the premise of hospital but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:06   there's two young Americans and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:10   a Norwegian guy or something that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:12   traveling europe post-college and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:16   kind of making the way from town to town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:17   and having their way with the women and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:20   basically being ugly americans and/or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:23   Norwegians as the case may be and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:25   somebody directs them to some some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:30   former russian state can't recall which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:34   one it is at the moment to a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:37   town in this state and into a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:39   hostile there so they they hear that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:42   know this is basically off the hook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:43   there's wild sex and drugs and so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:45   immediately get on a train and head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:46   there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:47   well it turns out this hospital is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:49   basically a front for an organization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:52   that allows rich rich perverts to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:56   violently murder people of various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:59   nationalities I think you pay a premium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:02   for Americans so it's it's like the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:06   dangerous game comes in a way but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:08   there's nobody gets a running start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10   basically they're lured in by basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:14   loose women that are pulling in a kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:19   of a bounty for attracting the guys and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:22   drugging them and then they end up you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:24   know in the torture chamber where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:26   whoever the highest bidder is gets to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:28   come in and have their way with them you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:30   know one of them's more interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:32   unit from kind of a surgery perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:34   so there's a guy who comes in any sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:35   of practices his surgery on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:37   unsuspecting guy and but they're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:40   are there's genuine horror in it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:44   not i think that where it's gotten a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:47   rap is just because it involves torture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:49   but in fact it's not it's clearly not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:51   glorifying torture in any way I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:54   you're you're you're obviously watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:56   the thing you're supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:57   disgusted with what's going on and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:59   are you know I'm sure there are a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:02   audience members that are sitting around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:04   you know with it with a very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:06   view of things but it also has some some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:10   really good direction that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:12   surprised me coming from eli roth has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:14   only really done i think two films at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:16   that point there's one in particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:19   that I think of where we discover what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:23   been going on this whole time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:25   and in our sort of protagonist who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:29   really is kind of a scumbag is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31   dragged down this hallway towards his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:33   chamber and as he goes down the hall he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:36   gets glimpses through open doorways of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:38   what's going on kind of shadow off in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:40   the distance in other rooms and we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:43   there's just kind of all sorts of weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:45   twisted stuff going on you can't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:46   see what it is but it's got this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48   great fun house atmosphere to it means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:53   nothing fun is happening but it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:55   it's got that it i find it hard to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:57   into words but it's it's it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:59   twisted and it's kind of got its classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:01   I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:02   alright so that's hostile yeah i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:04   it's it's a better film that has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:05   given credit for is what i'm trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:06   say don't you think though that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:10   when Ross did that mean specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:15   what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:15   well I mean when you have a shot like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:18   that with you know going down a hallway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:20   with the funhouse like atmosphere mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:23   don't you think that mean part of that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:26   think I mean he he gets off on that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:29   think don't you think don't you think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:31   will because you think we're given only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:33   think there's there's an audience that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:35   gets off on that too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:36   I don't doubt that there is but i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:39   think that's what he's shooting for me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:41   obviously I don't know what's in Eli [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:43   Ross head but it's it's pretty clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:46   just from the the way that the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:49   organization is is a is portrayed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:52   they're not they're not the heroes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:54   this piece mean there were supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:56   be disgusted with them and that's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:58   particular I don't think is is meant to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:00   appeal to sort of your print desire to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:03   see people dissected because we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:07   seeing things from a distance we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:08   seeing any blood and guts up close we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:10   just seeing stuff that again is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:13   it's too distorted to really see what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:16   going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:17   so if you're working world in again yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:20   exactly you'll realize that it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:21   just the one room that this is this film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:24   is actually happening ten times over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:26   simultaneously exactly and that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:28   so horrible 22 imagine right and it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:32   you see more and more of these it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:33   becomes more like you realize how casual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:37   this is to the the organization you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:39   they've got ten torturing is going on at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:41   a time and it's it's a it really builds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:45   tension more than it does sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:48   disgust you because again you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:50   really seeing anything that's happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:51   you're sort of filling in the blanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:53   with your your brain did you see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:56   second 1i have not seen the second one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:58   understand it's a more of the same well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:01   there I I've only seen three minutes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:04   the second one but the three minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:06   that I saw are nothing like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:09   description that you would give to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:12   first really yeah i mean there was this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:14   the scene that I happened to catch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:16   against flipping through the channels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:17   late one night involved you know I a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:22   nude woman suspended over another nude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:25   woman sitting in a in a tub who slashed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:28   the throat of this other woman and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:30   bathed in this other women in another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32   woman's blood it was just it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:33   disgusting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:36   it was it but but but it was done and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:39   mean you could it was quite clearly done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:43   to appeal to somebody's prurient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:46   interest mean if you saw you you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:48   what i mean so I mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:52   so when I when I would apply you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:56   that you with the pejoratives to two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:59   films like like hostel hostel two and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:02   some of the others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:03   that's kind of what I'm thinking right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:04   well in that there is some of that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:06   hospital as well i'm in the first one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:08   but it's not really the focus it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:12   certainly not to the point where where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:15   it should be dismissed as pure schlock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:18   just because of the fact that it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:20   some of that in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:21   alright i wanna i want to shift gears a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:23   little bit and talk about a a modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:25   horror classic we're really some of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:29   greatest fears and our greatest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:30   mythological horror figures are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:33   catapulted to the forefront and in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:36   film that really made all of America sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:38   up and take notice of the death I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:41   refer of course to jennifer aniston [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:44   leprechaun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:47   I really have nothing to say here other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49   haven't been I you notice that they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:52   the horror movies that are that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:55   have high hopes for come out in October [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:56   and the ones that they don't come out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   january and i think it was march around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:01   st. Patrick's for leprechauns that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:03   everyone I'm not sure was that that late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:05   i think im gonna be like january 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:07   through something you know what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:08   still bitter about leprechaun I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:10   paid to see that piece of crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:11   wow what yeah well you know what we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:14   sitting around our newspaper office in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:16   college we had this this comic book that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:19   was released by the production company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:21   that I presumed was based on kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:25   detail that we would see unfolding in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:27   the film and it was sort of entertaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:31   and it did had some kind of creepy stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:33   in it and then I went to film and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:36   discovered my head for a horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:38   feeling that well that's Jennifer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40   Aniston notwithstanding it was smoking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42   hot in that movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:43   wow I think I think the implants are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:46   ready with that time so yeah a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:48   the rapper and barely been taken off but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:51   yeah I mean it's it's basically a pun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53   filled extravaganza of awful slick troll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:58   to its no one's not quite on that level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:01   of bad i mean there's a coherent plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:03   and make the monsters in fact the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:06   leprechaun and and not a goblin which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:08   think was one of the complaints about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:09   troll isn't Warwick Davis just running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:12   around the whole film saying where's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:13   Mego hoping that was a question that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:16   what was in the comic book and we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:18   hours of fun just walking around saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:20   we're starting a chord and then as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:23   turned out I think he'd said it maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25   once in the film but he does recite some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:27   great irish leprechaun poetry as I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:30   he's a jumping on a guy's chest with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:33   pogo stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:36   now you see I'm very glad product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:38   leprechaun and then there is a scene i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:39   think where he's driving down the road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:41   in this tiny go-kart and I think he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:43   going like 90 miles an hour and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:45   it's hilarious it's got to sort of three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:46   stooges vibe to it it's it's a beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:50   thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:50   are there Shirley's I don't recall if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:54   there are any shillelaghs it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:56   there must be our they're armed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:58   limericks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:01   yeah I believe his poetry is is is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:04   the Limerick meter yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:05   ah that i think the the the best use of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:08   the Leprechaun myth and i have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:10   whether this is actually part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:12   Leprechaun it or not is is it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:15   that the Leprechaun can be thwarted by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:19   distracting him with shoes if he sees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:22   shoes if he if he runs across the shoe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:25   he will have to stop and clean the chute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:28   until it's shiny and so at one point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:31   course the heroes discovered this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:33   they basically stopped him in his tracks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:35   by taking off their shoes in her little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:37   bit but now that that is a fine film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:41   no it's not it has its moments it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:44   their gayness gosh I don't know but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:47   was interviewed it did you drink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:48   Guinness when before you went to see I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:51   don't think this was the college days so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:52   Guinness was sort of out of our range i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:55   think it was the the white can with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:56   blue striped just said beer on it which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:59   you know so it's basically to every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:01   irish stereotype possible pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:04   nice and then I thought they actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:06   ended up doing I think three or four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:08   sequels of that film of course they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:10   including I think leprechaun in the hood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:11   which is supposedly sort of good i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:15   heard what is it just like a leprechaun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:17   warning everybody now I it's I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:19   know it's kind of a hip-hop leprechaun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:21   is I brutal social commentary about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:24   inequality and there's on singleton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:26   directive I heard that yet sitsit sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:31   of heartbreaking at the end with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:32   Leprechaun doesn't get to go to college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:34   because he gets a shot to drive by he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:37   had such potential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:39   they're always after me playing I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:42   there's a leprechaun in space as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:44   well of course there was that's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:47   they live in in space Ireland then do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:52   you have any particular favorites that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:54   you'd like to recommend people put on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:56   there are on their netflix queue or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:59   know see before Halloween [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:02   well my perennial favorite this time of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:04   year is always return of the living dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:06   if for no other reason that I get to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:09   over and over and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:12   get the bone songs nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:14   you probably will have a good with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:16   memories of linnea quigley as well yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:20   why she didn't age 10 people but that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:25   a good it's it's a it's it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:28   even a zombie movies goes it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:30   hold up but it's what I one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:33   movies again I think I saw when I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:35   want to come out 87 716 no I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:37   does hold up extremely well I saw that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:40   you know we did with we did this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:42   halloween podcast last year and infinite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:44   monkeys and we talked about it i watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:46   again almost immediately after that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:48   thought yeah I mean there's some bits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:52   that are great and you know the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:53   stuff basically anything that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:57   involve the kids is great right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:59   and anything that involves zombies i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:01   love all those scenes where you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:03   know you know send more comments send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:06   more paramedics and more products yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:08   love that there's some really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:10   funny stuff and I love you know anytime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:12   you nucca Lexington Kentucky you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:13   absolutely right but it's but thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:16   saves return of the living dead i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:18   from from falling completely out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:20   favors is it went for a light-hearted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22   tone yeah yeah I know it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:25   really it was clearly meant to be right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:27   more of a constant you can't really I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:30   don't think he can dismiss it completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:32   because it wasn't really going for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:33   seriousness and and I think it works no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:35   no it's not that i think i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:37   frankly i think that the hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:40   well it works well as a period piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:41   though yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:43   yes it's um someday they'll tell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:45   historians will put that in a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:46   capsule to explain who the Vandals were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:48   so that's that's my film 44 how arises [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:52   it's it's good ridiculous fun can return [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:57   of Living Dead return of the living dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2877">TS</a>]

00:47:59   yeah get the bone song if the box so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:02   Steve I can't believe you haven't seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:04   let the right one and you really should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:05   see that I've seen the first 10 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:06   of it via netflix and then I had to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:09   something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:10   alright good because you were scared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:13   yeah I was terrified by a chicken that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:16   the little girl they look freakishly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:17   androgynous blonde boy was the film's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:20   protagonist yes and and the Swedish is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:25   the digits get a dub version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:26   subtitle person I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:27   I it this would be the subtitled and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:29   apparently the good subtitles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:31   yeah yeah but the the androgynous boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:35   awaken some feelings in me I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:36   entirely compatible with fair enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:38   fair enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:39   it's it's a good movie and I like one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:41   things i like about it is in many ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:42   it is the anti Twilight and that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:44   really does go over the that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:47   immortality premise and what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:49   actually means for the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:52   passing through the lives of a vampire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:54   while they just never age and stay the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:56   same age and you know there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:58   there's some really good stuff the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:00   hydrogen this boy is a is a bullet as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:03   you might expect and it turns out he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:05   got a friend who's a brutal killer so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:08   always applied interesting things occur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:11   and it's all in in the cold dark of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:15   Scandinavian winter so everybody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:17   depressed and it's cold out miserable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:20   it's good while we're on the subject of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:22   sort of offbeat non-traditional vampire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:25   films i should probably put in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:26   recommendation for a movie called Martin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:29   which was another early George Romero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:32   film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:33   oh yeah and less of a vampire film then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:38   kind of a an examination of a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:40   troubled youth but there's it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:42   follows a young lad named Martin in very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:45   impoverished city somewhere I forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:49   whether it's probably Pittsburgh because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:50   everything is Pittsburgh one is Romero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:52   and it's never really entirely clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:55   whether he's actually a vampire and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57   is the way he goes about attacking his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/2997">TS</a>]

00:50:01   victims he actually uses a razor blade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:02   miss Rindge and it's it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:05   interesting largely because you never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:07   entirely sure whether this is just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:09   twisted sort of a murderous serial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:12   killer type or whether he's actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:14   vampire that sort of moved on to more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:15   efficient techniques and he's he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:19   living with his grandfather who was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:20   convinced that the kids vampire and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:23   always walking around the house with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:24   across sort of following him around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:27   that's an interesting film definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:30   worth checking out a little slow by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:32   today's standards i think you know your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:34   average solve you or would probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:36   have the patience for it but definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:39   worth checking out very unconvincing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:41   Nolan very I think smart did you see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:44   dissent have not seen again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:47   alright on my kid thinks about that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:49   yeah and pans labyrinth for sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:53   feels sort of feels like a horror movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:55   to me even though it's kind of not but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:57   it kind of is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3057">TS</a>]

00:50:58   I well I like Pan's Labyrinth a lot even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:02   though acquaintances my have problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:05   with the politics of the picture I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:07   sure I I thought it was I thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:10   great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:10   top to bottom even you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:12   notwithstanding the politics even with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:14   the pi thought it was I thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:15   terrific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:16   I I I saw it in the theater and i bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:19   the DVD the first day it came out I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:21   it say it is a magnificent fairy tale is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:25   what it is but it's but it's that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:27   know it's the good kind of the dark and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:29   very kind which is why I met the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:31   kind of that in other words what yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:33   that's exactly right now I'm standing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:35   back on if you've not seen it Steve you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:37   must must have heard good things but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:40   don't get out much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:41   well they have these machines that allow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:43   you to play movies in your home now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:44   really yes they're called super 8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:47   projector how do those things we did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:49   turn the crank and and and moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:51   pictures appear on your wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:53   yes awesome so check it out with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:55   netflix you could do netflix too if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:58   want to go that way I this is netflix so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:01   what else have anything we haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:03   covered anything you think you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:05   get out there in a tutu the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:08   massive incomparable podcast listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10   audience before before halloween night I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:14   don't think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:15   I i think i think we've covered all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:17   good stuff you know what the hell's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19   matter of these geeks right Tom zombies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:23   potentially over overexposed kept going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:28   on as much as vampires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:29   not as much as vampires but but possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:31   but we're looking forward to the walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:33   dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:34   yes and we should we should watch alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:37   again because that's a good sci-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:39   horror kind of thing and get the bone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:43   saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:43   I think that pretty much don't and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:44   steve what was the the name of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:46   werewolf movie again your snaps ginger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:48   snaps it's a little hard to find because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:50   it is again a canadian film and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:52   try to bury those as soon as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:53   because I think I that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:56   Canadians I think their films are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:58   subsidized by the government right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3178">TS</a>]

00:52:59   believe that not sure they are think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:02   i think that a good percentage that film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:04   was made on the dole so and I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:07   have to tape over the video tapes they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:09   used to make them because they don't buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:11   new ones so they have to recycle them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:14   they playing for a while and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:15   take them they have their sent to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17   Toronto their demagnetized and there we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:19   reused yeah that's correct that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:22   how Canadian now filmworks that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:24   understanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:25   I could be wrong anyway highly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:26   recommended probably of the the newer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:28   films that I would recommend that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:30   amongst the batch of the ones that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:32   seen lately particularly for those of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:35   you who aren't you aren't big on Gor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:36   babies ya punk-ass yeah alright well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:42   I'm glad that we had this conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:45   I felt like I felt like we worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:46   through a lot of issues it is it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:50   podcasting as therapy and I've got some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:53   things to put a mind to my netflix queue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:55   and now i understand more why i'm a i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:57   a big baby who's afraid of horror movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3237">TS</a>]

00:54:00   let's talk about the understanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:02   really yeah well that's how you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:04   the learning and growing is is with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:06   understanding horror is our friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:11   yes it really is really the one thing we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:13   haven't talked about really is why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:15   people are are too gutless to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:18   horror movies or did we didn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:20   cover that anymore why or why they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:22   to watch them i mean right i mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:24   their argument if I can represent my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:27   people who aren't on the podcast with us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:31   is why would I want to see that stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:33   you know it's icky I don't want I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:35   want to see it you can flip it around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:36   and say why do you want to see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:40   well the same reason that people go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:42   see tearjerkers mean you go to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:44   movies generally to elicit some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:46   an emotional response right and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:51   don't all have to be uplifting or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:53   know who that guy is having trouble in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:56   his job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:57   it could also be the simple kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:59   fight or flight of oh my god I almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:01   died or if somebody tried to kill me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:04   I think it's a lot harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:05   for a filmmaker to successfully scare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:08   you than it is for them to make you sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10   I mean you know they throw a dead kid at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:11   you and all of a sudden you're you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:13   you're weeping but to successfully scare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:16   person I think takes a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:17   ingenuity a lot more technique right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:20   the dead kid is a zombie and he's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:21   thrown at you in a catapult then you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:23   some horror of that then you got some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:25   awesome dead kids and catapults that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:27   zombies be kidding me i don't think i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:29   ever seen if that can i was a ninja [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:31   pirate that's like the best thing ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:34   ninja pirate dead kids ambiance a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:36   catapult my catapult so yeah I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:40   kind of admire the technique of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:42   horror film particularly the ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:43   are genuinely scary and the the reaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:48   I get from a horror you know I enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:50   good to keep tearjerker to but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:53   I get a little more of a charge out of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:55   good scare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:56   I think it it reaffirms why we're alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3356">TS</a>]

00:56:01   I and another way but better them than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:04   us exactly i mean it's good to be in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:07   mortal fear every once in awhile and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:09   good horror film will do that it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:11   put you in the shoes of the protagonist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:13   so that you know you you're you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:15   feeling as though you're in in mortal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:18   terror right everybody in the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:20   theater gets out alive in an hour and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:22   half later you you feel pretty damn good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:24   because you survived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:25   it's a rush yeah it's an escape that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:28   makes a lot of sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:29   alright you explain yourself I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:30   know if I've explained explain the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:33   people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:33   Davis sticky they don't like it I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:36   know what the key part i get that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:38   people that just they don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:39   stomach for blood and gore I i get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:41   completely I mean you know some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43   just can't take the side of that that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:45   understand the ones who just shy away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:47   from even the films that are relatively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:50   bloodless but it just scary that scary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:53   juniors here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:54   yeah scary is good i think yeah i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:57   i'm not a big fan and as I am older and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3417">TS</a>]

00:57:00   have kids you know the the the blood and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:03   gore level that i can take is gone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:06   now that you had kids you seen a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:07   worse things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:08   yeah that's true i've seen Horrors her i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:12   believe her has a face or immoral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:15   terrible terror we could probably do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:17   whole podcast on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:18   just the the variance in child's diaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:20   output over the course of the first year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:22   you know it's horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:24   you don't need to leave you know horror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:26   that's just horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:27   yeah that's right that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:29   children's diapers and and honestly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:32   miracle birth itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:33   yeah now we got some horror wow I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:37   involves a lot more of the diaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:39   material than I was led to understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:40   yes any has the PS the I know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:45   you're talking about there for her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:47   I'm not gonna sleep tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:50   this got really wrong really fast haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:55   and on that note I want to thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:57   everybody who's still listening to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:59   podcast but it's over now I'd like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:01   thank Steve let's thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:03   you got a man and ben boychuk from his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:07   lair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:08   yeah i'm going to hide under the bed now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:11   alright wise decision as always i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:14   jason l for the uncomfortable podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:17   we'll see you next time up I this has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:22   been the incomparable podcast is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:25   sadly incomparable dot-com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:28   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbxmOvM/3508">TS</a>]