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6: Go Ahead, Lisa, Destroy My Childhood

 

00:00:00   the incomparable podcast number six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/0">TS</a>]

00:00:04   September 2010 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/4">TS</a>]

00:00:06   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/6">TS</a>]

00:00:08   we're back on the incomparable podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/8">TS</a>]

00:00:14   I'm Jason Snell the topic today is comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/14">TS</a>]

00:00:16   book club yay and joining me are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/16">TS</a>]

00:00:19   fellow members of the comic book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/19">TS</a>]

00:00:21   jason reitman a and Lisa Schmeisser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/21">TS</a>]

00:00:23   hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/23">TS</a>]

00:00:24   alright so we're back we managed to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/24">TS</a>]

00:00:27   it to a second one that is always a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/27">TS</a>]

00:00:28   milestone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/28">TS</a>]

00:00:29   that's right we're doubling its easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/29">TS</a>]

00:00:31   do one it's like the first annual now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/31">TS</a>]

00:00:33   it's a recurring feature it is here now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/33">TS</a>]

00:00:36   we don't know recurring right I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/36">TS</a>]

00:00:39   issue to sales drop well yeah after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/39">TS</a>]

00:00:41   after an issue one that's the sophomore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/41">TS</a>]

00:00:43   slump but you figure after five or six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/43">TS</a>]

00:00:45   podcast we can release the trade version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/45">TS</a>]

00:00:47   of the podcast where it's all bound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/47">TS</a>]

00:00:49   together one long conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/49">TS</a>]

00:00:50   alright we can sketch in some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/50">TS</a>]

00:00:52   stuff we cut out of the podcast because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/52">TS</a>]

00:00:55   it wasn't worth listening to and we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/55">TS</a>]

00:00:57   stick it in the end and call it added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/57">TS</a>]

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00:01:17   comic book up public lat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/77">TS</a>]

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00:01:21   like that anyway welcome thanks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/81">TS</a>]

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00:01:29   when we record these podcast many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/89">TS</a>]

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00:01:33   their little homes and and use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/93">TS</a>]

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00:01:41   young future comic book reader on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/101">TS</a>]

00:01:44   way you so so that will be a challenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/104">TS</a>]

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00:01:51   know one on maternity leave so that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/111">TS</a>]

00:01:53   can know Lisa still reading comics sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/113">TS</a>]

00:01:56   yes all timely references have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/116">TS</a>]

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00:02:04   that about this kid pride gonna stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/124">TS</a>]

00:02:06   with the x-men gonna be very well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/126">TS</a>]

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00:02:10   the same story every decade or so so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/130">TS</a>]

00:02:13   still be very timely yes example good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/133">TS</a>]

00:02:15   cables on the rise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/135">TS</a>]

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00:02:22   start out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/142">TS</a>]

00:02:22   I thought we would talk about TV I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/142">TS</a>]

00:02:25   this is not the TV podcast is the comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/145">TS</a>]

00:02:28   book club but the worlds of TV and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/148">TS</a>]

00:02:31   movies and comic books are colliding in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/151">TS</a>]

00:02:33   fact some might say that the comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/153">TS</a>]

00:02:36   industry is rapidly becoming an R&D lab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/156">TS</a>]

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00:02:43   the publishing aspect of it is more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/163">TS</a>]

00:02:46   an adjunct tenant and a little niche [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/166">TS</a>]

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00:02:51   and I don't think this is unreasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/171">TS</a>]

00:02:52   to say this but the main business of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/172">TS</a>]

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00:03:00   mean why disney by Marvel around you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/180">TS</a>]

00:03:02   your they wanted these these characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/182">TS</a>]

00:03:04   and they've got more storylines that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/184">TS</a>]

00:03:06   they can work into TV shows and they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/186">TS</a>]

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00:03:15   post on the beat today that was taking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/195">TS</a>]

00:03:16   look at the salary breakdowns and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/196">TS</a>]

00:03:18   they're currently paying editors about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/198">TS</a>]

00:03:20   30 to 45 thousand dollars see and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/200">TS</a>]

00:03:23   they're paying Community Managers twice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/203">TS</a>]

00:03:24   that alright with it and that's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/204">TS</a>]

00:03:26   a shocking thing about the comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/206">TS</a>]

00:03:28   companies how little these people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/208">TS</a>]

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00:03:35   any of these editors complained and was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/215">TS</a>]

00:03:37   like I need more money and less like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/217">TS</a>]

00:03:39   lucky break the job there's also like 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/219">TS</a>]

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00:03:43   the hill to be in that seat the argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/223">TS</a>]

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00:03:52   a writer or an editor is especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/232">TS</a>]

00:03:53   writer like Oh everybody's a writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/233">TS</a>]

00:03:55   everybody is willing to be a writer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/235">TS</a>]

00:03:57   it may not be good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/237">TS</a>]

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00:04:06   there was a kind of natural affinity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/246">TS</a>]

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00:04:10   both of them tend to rely on very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/250">TS</a>]

00:04:12   episodic storytelling we're even if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/252">TS</a>]

00:04:14   have self-contained issues or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/254">TS</a>]

00:04:16   self-contained episodes of a TV show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/256">TS</a>]

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00:04:34   interesting though I think that's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/274">TS</a>]

00:04:35   of switched in a way in that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/275">TS</a>]

00:04:37   historically comics were that very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/277">TS</a>]

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00:04:41   x-men for 20 years and chris claremont [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/281">TS</a>]

00:04:43   may or may not have finished the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/283">TS</a>]

00:04:45   plotline idea where television in was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/285">TS</a>]

00:04:49   everything I'd like a reset switch at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/289">TS</a>]

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00:04:53   matter if you missed a few because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/293">TS</a>]

00:04:54   characters really don't change and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/294">TS</a>]

00:04:56   television he really is doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58   rewarding you know in the last decade or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/298">TS</a>]

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00:05:06   to be those long rewarding stories and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/306">TS</a>]

00:05:09   that if you keep following it they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/309">TS</a>]

00:05:10   have those lights subtle quiet moments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/310">TS</a>]

00:05:12   and economics have almost become TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/312">TS</a>]

00:05:13   seasons whereas TV season's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/313">TS</a>]

00:05:15   become long-form comic books yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/315">TS</a>]

00:05:17   that they have come together right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/317">TS</a>]

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00:05:22   well I mean there are a few examples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/322">TS</a>]

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00:05:36   third season now and she'll say oh so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/336">TS</a>]

00:05:37   that's where they ended this time huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/337">TS</a>]

00:05:39   because there is no ending but most TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/339">TS</a>]

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00:06:43   I said you could diet yeah if you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/403">TS</a>]

00:06:45   a comic book store and seek out that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/405">TS</a>]

00:06:47   we don't get shot now you see these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/407">TS</a>]

00:06:49   tremendous promotional blitz for things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/409">TS</a>]

00:06:51   but haven't helped if you don't pick up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/411">TS</a>]

00:06:52   in the first issue of that plot line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/412">TS</a>]

00:06:54   because you're lost or if there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/414">TS</a>]

00:06:57   callbacks two previous runs or previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59   plot developments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/419">TS</a>]

00:07:01   there's never an astrocyte see issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/421">TS</a>]

00:07:03   number extra why I looked through my new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/423">TS</a>]

00:07:06   mutants classic trades and what's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/426">TS</a>]

00:07:08   kind of funny about those as they still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/428">TS</a>]

00:07:10   have the footnotes in there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/430">TS</a>]

00:07:11   reference all of the other series that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/431">TS</a>]

00:07:13   they were tied into it the time to those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/433">TS</a>]

00:07:15   will be and that's the initial run of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/435">TS</a>]

00:07:17   the mutants we have picked a sunspot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/437">TS</a>]

00:07:19   cannonball magma the app where that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/439">TS</a>]

00:07:22   it they were basically you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/442">TS</a>]

00:07:24   Savior's like well i have a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26   guys that I lost in a cave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/446">TS</a>]

00:07:28   let us at the reboots which surely don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/448">TS</a>]

00:07:30   come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/450">TS</a>]

00:07:31   yeah let's hit the radio savage Landor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/451">TS</a>]

00:07:34   wherever they were right let's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/454">TS</a>]

00:07:35   let's have kitty pryde interact with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/455">TS</a>]

00:07:37   their peers and have it go badly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/457">TS</a>]

00:07:38   Oh what they were in space with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/458">TS</a>]

00:07:39   brood and the starjammers right was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/459">TS</a>]

00:07:41   when they found the New Mutants was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/461">TS</a>]

00:07:43   sorry I'm you know I can't remember if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/463">TS</a>]

00:07:45   it's lost in the cave or in space with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/465">TS</a>]

00:07:46   the new mutants if they were in space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/466">TS</a>]

00:07:48   with the starjammers in the brood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/468">TS</a>]

00:07:49   because then they can't the x-men came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/469">TS</a>]

00:07:51   back and they fought for at least four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/471">TS</a>]

00:07:52   panels with the new modalities gray is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/472">TS</a>]

00:07:55   the new mutants didn't know that who the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/475">TS</a>]

00:07:56   x-men were and there was a brood hiding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/476">TS</a>]

00:07:58   in one of the back corridors because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/478">TS</a>]

00:08:00   doesn't have to fight us right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/480">TS</a>]

00:08:02   exactly yes so good and then your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/482">TS</a>]

00:08:04   enemies kicked out of the x-men yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/484">TS</a>]

00:08:05   it's got someone's father is around for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/485">TS</a>]

00:08:07   a few episodes reviews jerk classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/487">TS</a>]

00:08:10   stuff but all interlocked and lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/490">TS</a>]

00:08:11   footnotes because that was part of and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/491">TS</a>]

00:08:13   it's actually looking back on that sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/493">TS</a>]

00:08:15   of sweets like they had two comics now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/495">TS</a>]

00:08:17   they're like hey I got an idea let's do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/497">TS</a>]

00:08:19   a second comic that set and more or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/499">TS</a>]

00:08:21   the same place and will refer back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/501">TS</a>]

00:08:22   forth one of course now you'll you end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/502">TS</a>]

00:08:24   up with ten that are all trying to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26   god yes it's no longer enjoyable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/506">TS</a>]

00:08:29   well I don't do those big events anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31   because if i were a regular serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/511">TS</a>]

00:08:33   writer why would I want to invest extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/513">TS</a>]

00:08:34   time and money and picking up that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/514">TS</a>]

00:08:36   variance entire for example samsung next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/516">TS</a>]

00:08:39   one reader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/519">TS</a>]

00:08:39   why would I also want to pick up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/519">TS</a>]

00:08:40   Avengers four-issue miniseries on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/520">TS</a>]

00:08:43   whatever the big event is plus the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/523">TS</a>]

00:08:44   planets and daredevil grace spider-man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/524">TS</a>]

00:08:47   plus the runaways plus you forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/527">TS</a>]

00:08:50   ok so before we get too far off track i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/530">TS</a>]

00:08:51   want to bring back bring back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/531">TS</a>]

00:08:53   marble we could go we have to go on well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/533">TS</a>]

00:08:56   yes so so too i think bits of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/536">TS</a>]

00:09:00   interesting TV news regarding comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/540">TS</a>]

00:09:03   adaptation for TV and there are other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/543">TS</a>]

00:09:04   directions we can take this conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/544">TS</a>]

00:09:06   for example there are there's a comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/546">TS</a>]

00:09:08   book at least one maybe two comic like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/548">TS</a>]

00:09:10   in terms of topic new TV shows like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/550">TS</a>]

00:09:13   ordinary family with Michael Chiklis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/553">TS</a>]

00:09:15   which is sort of the incredibles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/555">TS</a>]

00:09:16   live-action version case was coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/556">TS</a>]

00:09:18   areas American here on the Cape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/558">TS</a>]

00:09:19   yeah we also have some TV series that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/559">TS</a>]

00:09:22   have turned into comics you see that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/562">TS</a>]

00:09:24   little bit i think the most interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/564">TS</a>]

00:09:25   example for me is Buffy Season eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/565">TS</a>]

00:09:27   where you actually had the creative team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/567">TS</a>]

00:09:29   in large part of a TV series after after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/569">TS</a>]

00:09:32   the show has ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/572">TS</a>]

00:09:33   continuing on in there have been some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/573">TS</a>]

00:09:34   other graphic novel continuations to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/574">TS</a>]

00:09:36   believe edward james olmos was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/576">TS</a>]

00:09:38   discovered that if you want to tell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/578">TS</a>]

00:09:39   story what happened to Commander Adama [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/579">TS</a>]

00:09:40   after the last episode of battlestar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/580">TS</a>]

00:09:42   galactica all you need to do is talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/582">TS</a>]

00:09:44   some web-sites a graphic novel and magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/584">TS</a>]

00:09:46   things will happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/586">TS</a>]

00:09:48   I'm not sure that's such a great idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/588">TS</a>]

00:09:49   but but that but the primary focus is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/589">TS</a>]

00:09:52   the walking dead which premieres on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/592">TS</a>]

00:09:55   halloween on AMC an adaptation of Robert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/595">TS</a>]

00:09:58   Kirkman's an excellent black-and-white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/598">TS</a>]

00:10:00   comic book series although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/600">TS</a>]

00:10:02   nightmare-inducing they'll never great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/602">TS</a>]

00:10:04   yeah it's great great for a great issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/604">TS</a>]

00:10:06   48 is great for the pregnant ladies I oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/606">TS</a>]

00:10:09   I read through my brother had how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/609">TS</a>]

00:10:12   my brother had collected most all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/612">TS</a>]

00:10:15   trades up to November last year and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/615">TS</a>]

00:10:17   i visited for thanksgiving i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/617">TS</a>]

00:10:18   through them all in like a two-day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/618">TS</a>]

00:10:20   stretch and then had nightmares for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/620">TS</a>]

00:10:21   next two nights just because i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/621">TS</a>]

00:10:22   mainline this coming for two days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/622">TS</a>]

00:10:25   straight and couldn't get out of my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/625">TS</a>]

00:10:26   before that's like that's how I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/626">TS</a>]

00:10:28   yeah yeah I just as well i bought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/628">TS</a>]

00:10:31   here's a tip for people who haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/631">TS</a>]

00:10:32   gotten into the walking dead if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/632">TS</a>]

00:10:34   to take a chance your best value is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/634">TS</a>]

00:10:37   there's an omnibus and I home and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/637">TS</a>]

00:10:40   all 48 issues the first 48 issues of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/640">TS</a>]

00:10:43   story with a very fitting and dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/643">TS</a>]

00:10:45   conclusion right story line at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/645">TS</a>]

00:10:47   of it and it's it's a it's like 20 bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/647">TS</a>]

00:10:49   it's really cheap 448 issues of a comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/649">TS</a>]

00:10:52   right and it's great-looking distracted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/652">TS</a>]

00:10:53   by how he draws children and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/653">TS</a>]

00:10:55   building smiley that's my only complaint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/655">TS</a>]

00:10:57   is is charles charles adler dizzy is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/657">TS</a>]

00:11:00   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/660">TS</a>]

00:11:00   yeah because I've always had a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/660">TS</a>]

00:11:01   he draws kids and he's got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/661">TS</a>]

00:11:03   proportions off they're almost like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/663">TS</a>]

00:11:04   middle-aged representation work shrunken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/664">TS</a>]

00:11:06   adults but once you once you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/666">TS</a>]

00:11:08   past that you're here like wow this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/668">TS</a>]

00:11:10   really great yeah the just going on with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/670">TS</a>]

00:11:13   that hold the Omnibus 448 issues if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/673">TS</a>]

00:11:15   don't like your comics as one giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/675">TS</a>]

00:11:17   telephone book size kind of addition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/677">TS</a>]

00:11:20   seriously they big telephone right ma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/680">TS</a>]

00:11:23   curtain is awesome in that they released [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/683">TS</a>]

00:11:26   the walking dead in pretty much every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/686">TS</a>]

00:11:28   format you can get hardcover you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/688">TS</a>]

00:11:30   hard covers that cover a year of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/690">TS</a>]

00:11:31   issue so in fact that 48 issue thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/691">TS</a>]

00:11:33   it has four hardcovers or you could get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/693">TS</a>]

00:11:36   it as a trade paperbacks yeah or to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/696">TS</a>]

00:11:39   personal favorite the two absolute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/699">TS</a>]

00:11:41   editions which was sort of like the DC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/701">TS</a>]

00:11:43   absolute collections where these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/703">TS</a>]

00:11:45   oversized almost 11 x 17 hardback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/705">TS</a>]

00:11:47   slipcase hundred-dollar beautiful coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/707">TS</a>]

00:11:50   table they weigh a million pounds really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/710">TS</a>]

00:11:52   portable not portable but an awesome way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/712">TS</a>]

00:11:54   to read it and experienced in the art so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/714">TS</a>]

00:11:56   big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/716">TS</a>]

00:11:57   yeah I decided to go for the Omnibus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/717">TS</a>]

00:11:59   this yeah so so AMC the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/719">TS</a>]

00:12:02   brought you such heralded TV series as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/722">TS</a>]

00:12:05   Mad Men and Breaking Bad have committed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/725">TS</a>]

00:12:08   to the walking dead series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/728">TS</a>]

00:12:10   rumor has it that they've even gone so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/730">TS</a>]

00:12:12   far as to commit to a second season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/732">TS</a>]

00:12:14   although it may be that they're waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/734">TS</a>]

00:12:15   for the ratings before they officially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/735">TS</a>]

00:12:16   related I've seen conflicting reports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/736">TS</a>]

00:12:19   there but it's a six-episode season so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/739">TS</a>]

00:12:21   it's pretty short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/741">TS</a>]

00:12:22   I think they were you hesitant to to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/742">TS</a>]

00:12:24   a long run but the buzz is really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/744">TS</a>]

00:12:28   as as people who read the walking dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/748">TS</a>]

00:12:30   though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/750">TS</a>]

00:12:31   what do you think about prospect of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/751">TS</a>]

00:12:32   is a series is this a the right kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/752">TS</a>]

00:12:35   graphic novel comic series they always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/755">TS</a>]

00:12:37   the marketing people always know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/757">TS</a>]

00:12:38   graphic novel i love into its comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/758">TS</a>]

00:12:40   must be the mystery science theater 3000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/760">TS</a>]

00:12:42   joke where it i forget which robot it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/762">TS</a>]

00:12:45   was that read them and get into graphic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/765">TS</a>]

00:12:47   novel comic book for stickin ceramic not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/767">TS</a>]

00:12:50   the graphic novel but regardless what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/770">TS</a>]

00:12:52   you think about walking dead as a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/772">TS</a>]

00:12:55   show instead of as a complex series i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/775">TS</a>]

00:12:59   would say that walking dead is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/779">TS</a>]

00:13:00   the the sort of comic properties that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/780">TS</a>]

00:13:02   makes the most sense as a TV show it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/782">TS</a>]

00:13:05   so episodic and so much about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/785">TS</a>]

00:13:08   development of these characters and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/788">TS</a>]

00:13:09   really get into sort of the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/789">TS</a>]

00:13:11   lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/791">TS</a>]

00:13:12   and that scene when they forget after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/792">TS</a>]

00:13:15   they've gone through so much trauma and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/795">TS</a>]

00:13:17   stuff and they get to that prison and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/797">TS</a>]

00:13:18   they have that sort of relief like here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/798">TS</a>]

00:13:21   have truly working spoiler right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/801">TS</a>]

00:13:24   but they were isn't sequence and raise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/804">TS</a>]

00:13:26   is like a high point in the series for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/806">TS</a>]

00:13:27   me when when they come over the hill and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/807">TS</a>]

00:13:29   there's that prison and I like we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/809">TS</a>]

00:13:31   be safe here their study notice this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/811">TS</a>]

00:13:32   prison is salvation yeah the subsequent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/812">TS</a>]

00:13:35   stories in it again na right explores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/815">TS</a>]

00:13:37   the the meaning of what it really means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/817">TS</a>]

00:13:38   to be incarcerated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/818">TS</a>]

00:13:40   it's not a throwaway that they find a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/820">TS</a>]

00:13:41   prison rail it is like when Kirkman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/821">TS</a>]

00:13:43   takes them to the prison you do get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/823">TS</a>]

00:13:45   sense that he's committed to exploring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/825">TS</a>]

00:13:47   all of the variations of what does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/827">TS</a>]

00:13:49   mean to be setting up a civilization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/829">TS</a>]

00:13:52   inside this prison instead of what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/832">TS</a>]

00:13:54   might get somewhere else which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/834">TS</a>]

00:13:56   prison and then we were there for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/836">TS</a>]

00:13:58   couple issues and then we left and went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/838">TS</a>]

00:13:59   and moved on as an oz viewer you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/839">TS</a>]

00:14:01   the whole time i was when i was reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/841">TS</a>]

00:14:03   through the prison issues i was i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/843">TS</a>]

00:14:04   kind of thing about always in the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/844">TS</a>]

00:14:06   of my head and the fact that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/846">TS</a>]

00:14:08   these people who are civilians to all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/848">TS</a>]

00:14:09   a sudden move into the prison and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/849">TS</a>]

00:14:11   run into the cons and you think these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/851">TS</a>]

00:14:13   are almost like two separate species of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/853">TS</a>]

00:14:14   individual and how are they ever going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/854">TS</a>]

00:14:16   to connect how are they going to band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/856">TS</a>]

00:14:17   together against a common enemy if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/857">TS</a>]

00:14:19   did the walking good as a movie he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/859">TS</a>]

00:14:22   wouldn't do your point would be a zombie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/862">TS</a>]

00:14:23   movie right we just be there would be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/863">TS</a>]

00:14:25   action arc and that there be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/865">TS</a>]

00:14:27   characters and so I think that goes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/867">TS</a>]

00:14:28   the heart of what you say about him it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/868">TS</a>]

00:14:30   being appropriate a TV show is it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/870">TS</a>]

00:14:32   is about characters right what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/872">TS</a>]

00:14:34   to the characters and none of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/874">TS</a>]

00:14:35   you doing the same right and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/875">TS</a>]

00:14:37   actually also what worries me a bit is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/877">TS</a>]

00:14:40   one of the interesting things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/880">TS</a>]

00:14:41   walking dead is all the characters to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/881">TS</a>]

00:14:42   develop characters that you love and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/882">TS</a>]

00:14:43   invest time in spoiler alert they die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/883">TS</a>]

00:14:47   we have lots and anybody's right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/887">TS</a>]

00:14:50   that they you know you get the sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/890">TS</a>]

00:14:51   after a while that no one is safe and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/891">TS</a>]

00:14:53   when you have a TV show with main actors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/893">TS</a>]

00:14:56   and stars and secondary thing you always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/896">TS</a>]

00:15:00   know that like well nothing really Bad's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/900">TS</a>]

00:15:01   gonna happen that's the main character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/901">TS</a>]

00:15:02   of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/902">TS</a>]

00:15:03   yeah we're in the comic oh that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05   true and so how is that going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/905">TS</a>]

00:15:07   translate into television is it gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/907">TS</a>]

00:15:09   you take the main character one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/909">TS</a>]

00:15:11   main characters and well I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/911">TS</a>]

00:15:13   they're they're no longer have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/913">TS</a>]

00:15:15   ability to do that because they've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/915">TS</a>]

00:15:16   the blueprint of the comic series they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/916">TS</a>]

00:15:18   can say hi character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/918">TS</a>]

00:15:20   we're hiring you just so you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/920">TS</a>]

00:15:22   gonna get killed at the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/922">TS</a>]

00:15:23   second season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/923">TS</a>]

00:15:24   sorry that we're gonna decide for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/924">TS</a>]

00:15:26   first two and then you're gone or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/926">TS</a>]

00:15:28   first three and then you're gone right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/928">TS</a>]

00:15:30   that gives me that that they know where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/930">TS</a>]

00:15:32   the story is going in a way that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/932">TS</a>]

00:15:34   regular TV writer wouldn't that the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/934">TS</a>]

00:15:36   things I'm really curious about our one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/936">TS</a>]

00:15:38   how are they going to handle the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/938">TS</a>]

00:15:39   ceaseless tension because if it's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/939">TS</a>]

00:15:41   thing that I think about the walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/941">TS</a>]

00:15:42   dead is almost never any relief even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/942">TS</a>]

00:15:44   when a plot arcs to a complete finish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/944">TS</a>]

00:15:46   you don't have that oh well that's okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/946">TS</a>]

00:15:49   and now they're off to new adventures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/949">TS</a>]

00:15:51   no they're still stuck on a planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/951">TS</a>]

00:15:52   that's filled with zombies and right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/952">TS</a>]

00:15:54   life is hard life is life is never going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/954">TS</a>]

00:15:56   to get easier it's it's a pretty grim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/956">TS</a>]

00:15:58   series and it's not that funny and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/958">TS</a>]

00:16:00   worry no no the reason is because when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/960">TS</a>]

00:16:03   you have something is unrelentingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/963">TS</a>]

00:16:05   tense there there's often a temptation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/965">TS</a>]

00:16:06   to throw in some comic relief or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/966">TS</a>]

00:16:08   something just so people laugh and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/968">TS</a>]

00:16:09   the rent and release out how are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/969">TS</a>]

00:16:11   going to handle this on TV where people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/971">TS</a>]

00:16:13   actually do tune in for some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/973">TS</a>]

00:16:15   catharsis right and I i think some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/975">TS</a>]

00:16:17   the interesting stuff that happens in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/977">TS</a>]

00:16:18   the book with what the characters go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/978">TS</a>]

00:16:20   through and some of the way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/980">TS</a>]

00:16:20   characters hook up in all is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/980">TS</a>]

00:16:23   breaking that tension that they all feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/983">TS</a>]

00:16:25   and as a reader when you're reading this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/985">TS</a>]

00:16:27   series it's hard to put down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/987">TS</a>]

00:16:28   yes you feel that tension too and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/988">TS</a>]

00:16:30   just want to ride it out to see what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/990">TS</a>]

00:16:32   the second thing wondering about is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/992">TS</a>]

00:16:33   an incredibly violent series just just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/993">TS</a>]

00:16:36   incredibly gruesomely violent and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/996">TS</a>]

00:16:39   are they going to handle it when there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/999">TS</a>]

00:16:40   are people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:41   spoiler alert when there are people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:42   using plastic pliers to pull the teeth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:44   that amount of zombie children or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:46   gruesomely torturing folk or just all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:49   the various gonna play that results in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:51   kapil's parts of the murders suicides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:52   had he's yelling apart right yeah or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:55   there was some outcome was a blank here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:57   is it Sharona Siobhan the one who made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:59   it through to the prison by against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:01   whereby maniacally some zombies 2 we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:03   using them as as his shield yes as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:06   shield like how how did you swing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:08   and I hope though they don't use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:10   comic as too much of a blueprint and use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:13   it as the basis and then do what works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:15   in TV in a way and because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:17   different mediums and the same story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:19   lines for Batum aren't going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:21   translate what right i think following [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:23   the plot arc and saying people here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:25   what's going to happen they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:26   he's gonna go into this into the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28   he's going to meet people they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:29   to end up on this on the road they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:30   gonna find a prison there's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:32   stuff in the prison and there's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:33   be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:34   then it's going to be a community nearby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:35   because every post apocalyptic story has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:37   that like militaristic community that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:39   sometimes runs into his rented by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:41   dictator always happens and I was sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:43   of sad when i saw that in the walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:44   dead but they handled it really well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:45   yeah but you know so and then and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:48   you can go on from there and say one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:49   then and then down the road we'll talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:51   about like taking another road trip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:52   trying to find the source of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:54   maybe how this happened or where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:55   government is and all of that those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:57   points along the way are probably good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1077">TS</a>]

00:18:00   to have like i said to give them an idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:02   of direction but the details i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:04   you're totally right hand details need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:06   to happen in the contract with TV one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:08   thing I hope it doesn't become though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:09   you know why did this happen how did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:11   this happen let's try to solve that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:12   mystery mystery and I think that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:14   not in the comic that's like mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:16   maybe twice ever in just a couple I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:18   sandals they're like we're a little busy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:19   trying not to be eaten be right over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:21   here when I'm not even to the evenings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:23   but what are we gonna eat and how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:25   go anywhere because the highways are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:27   clogged with cars and now there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:28   gasps there's no working society is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:30   working in that structure right that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:32   so interesting and from a character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:34   standpoint which is again that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:35   brilliance of the walking dead is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:37   it does what most ami stories don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:39   which is deal with these larger issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:41   of how do we survive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:43   can we survive can we raise children in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:46   this it at comic-con there was a panel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:50   of teachers and librarians talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:53   using comics in classrooms and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:55   the things they talked about was using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:57   the walking dead with with teenagers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1137">TS</a>]

00:19:00   yeah yeah such fifth grade my god no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:04   need to talk about questions of culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06   and Emma question there was about zombie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:08   post zombie apocalypse culture and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:11   characters in The Walking Dead or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:12   worried that their kids are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:13   grow up not just worried that the kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:15   are going to grow because they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:16   get eaten by a zombie but they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:17   to grow up in a in a culture without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:20   knowing what all the trappings of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:22   previous culture were and like how do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:24   keep the culture alive and that is stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:26   that you just don't as much fun as some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:29   kind of traditional zombie movies can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:31   as action vehicles and the fact is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:35   is a lot of time spent mourning for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:36   dead culture and wondering how you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:38   possibly survive in a world where all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:40   the cars are filling the the lanes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:42   highways and there's no gasoline and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:44   there's no food and there's nothing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:45   that and and so to get to that and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:47   you know this isn't just about surviving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:49   it's also about it or not just about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:51   killing zombies it's also about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:53   surviving in the long term and how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:54   heck do we do that and get along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:55   together that's a great thing about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:57   happened did and that Batman that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:59   core of drama right right and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:01   what works why it works pretty good yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:03   featured steady existential you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:05   basic existential like will we be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:07   to continue existing kind of core drama [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:10   right it's their one of the genius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:12   things with the walking dead is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:13   basically the stand with zombies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:15   yeah because when you think about this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:17   lot doesn't remember no and without some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:19   of the mystical about Randall Flagg but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:21   there's something you know there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:22   of this if you went back and reread it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:24   my last vacation and there's just a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:26   of time that Stephen King actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:27   devotes to talking about how lost people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:30   are with their infrastructure goes away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:31   where there are people who have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:32   how to get running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:33   just just look at new orleans after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:35   katrina society is very fragile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:37   oh yeah first World Western societies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:39   really fragile x 1 i'd be curious about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:41   I don't know and I don't think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:42   ever going to do this in the walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:43   dead because there's how could you swing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:45   it but I'd love to find out how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:47   network everybody is fine exactly hahaha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:49   they did that and y the last man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:50   remember the very yeah against Cuellar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:52   at the very end of it you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:54   like it turns out the women on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:55   plains of Africa were fine because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:57   were already used to be hunters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:58   gatherers they just picked up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1258">TS</a>]

00:20:59   carried on it was you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:01   interdependence societies ever host so y [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:03   the last man is going is in movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:05   development isn't it with the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:08   that that's what I actually think we'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:09   be better as a TV show isn't true i said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:11   this about watchmen for a long time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:13   I mentioned this on our in our movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:15   podcast have been 12 issue HBO series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:18   that kind of thing where it's you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:20   12-episode like the band of brothers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:23   event where it's it's one and done you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:25   know and something like something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:26   self-contained like why I could I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:28   see again as a series because there's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:30   much story there that that you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:33   tell it was a movie if you only took the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:34   first couple of trade paperbacks maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:36   then it's an amazing i'm doing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:38   right that's why I comics in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:40   probably work better as a serialize TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:42   show then a two-hour movie because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:45   they're they're written with the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:46   interstitial storytelling right at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:47   at least all these kind of good books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   from kirk manner von that we're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:51   about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:51   well not to get back to Buffy which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:54   mentioned earlier but Joss Whedon has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:56   said on many occasions that Buffy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:58   buffy TV series and talk about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:00   to work better as a TV show the movie by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:02   the way is greatly is really his version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:06   of spider-man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:07   yeah except taking hold of some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:09   superhero trappings away and having it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:11   be the strong female character but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:13   it is Peter Parker in in high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:16   with all of the social complications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:18   plus superpowers which makes it even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:20   more complicated and and that's what why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:22   i love that show is because i always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:24   love that aspect of the spider-man story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:26   group and then Buffy really is that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:28   I know Marvel's talking about now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:29   they're part of disney making more comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:32   based TV shows and I suspect it's only a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:34   matter of time before we see the Peter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:36   Parker TV series isn't aren't they doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:38   the new spider-man film is sort of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:40   ultimate spider-man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:41   yeah I'll removed as opposed to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:42   really work better as a TV show my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:44   argument is you can look at something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:45   like Buffy and say I think I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:47   spider-man or at least the I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49   smallville would be the example right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:50   words what if we took a my comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:52   superhero and made his high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:55   period the the the subject of on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:58   long-running TV show where you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:00   really get into those issues and small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:02   has been on the air since the forties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:03   right at this point and welding has lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:05   his teeth and it's very sad but that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:07   having only seen like one episode that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:09   that was the premise of that show to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:11   write with an ok so let's talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:13   some failures like the words of prey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:16   ok i was thinking you and next oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:19   which I don't actually ever watched an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:21   episode of to pray you and you love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:22   comic right one of the comic i really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:25   it would within the TV show anything to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:28   do with the comic-con vaguely other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:30   the traditional have a man appear in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:32   comic at any point that man has appeared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:35   in gross army not in the comic in the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:37   show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:37   not one don't know don't nobody say bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:39   but it wasn't the main person in the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:41   show the daughter of Batman and Catwoman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:44   know what they did what they did and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:46   this was just it was one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:48   where if you're if you're into any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:49   resembles a continuity you're tearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:51   her again that's not how it's supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:52   to go is you have of course oracle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:55   she's the titular protagonist random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:57   things resolved revolve what they did is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:59   they took the daughter of the Black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:00   Canary that the daughter that Black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:02   Canary had with green arrow and she goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:04   into the family business sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:05   unleashes profoundly ambivalent about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:07   because they needed to have they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:09   basically tried to set the maiden mother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:10   krone dynamic with with three women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:13   damned you have to have your maiden and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:15   that has to be the the new Black Canary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:17   and it was just oh here Ricky will teach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:21   you the ropes of fighting crime in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:22   city and by the way my shrink happens to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:26   be Harley Quinn in her spare time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:29   yeah and it was just it was made it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:32   if it works like a change everything if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:33   it worked right and a big problem was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:35   that it didn't work out but one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:38   things that made one of the reasons i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:39   like birds of prey at the girls even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:42   trucks and run to be fair but one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:43   reasons of birds of prey actually worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:44   was because you had a group of women who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:47   were professional colleagues and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:49   had and they had to work together and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:52   the friendships are valuable but often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:54   secondary or you know sometimes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:56   interpersonal relationships got in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:58   way of doing a professional job there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1498">TS</a>]

00:24:59   was a brief plot point in the gail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:01   simone where power girl has a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:02   falling-out with the birds of prey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:03   because she doesn't like how she's being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:04   asked to work and has to work being out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:07   fighting crime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:08   yeah okay because Oracle has methods and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:10   Power Girl disagreed with them and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:12   turned into a thing and it affected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:14   their friendship as well as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:15   professional relationship and whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:18   this was I think like a WB series seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:20   hours it was basically the baby was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:23   the in after smallville was a successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:25   yeah but they would do another DC and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:27   was kind of like sex in the city meets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:29   spandex it was really just yeah and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:32   was it was it was it was less about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:35   fact that these women saw themselves as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:37   okay clearly I have the ability to kick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:39   somebody's butt or clearly I have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:41   ability to find any information anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:43   and let's see if i can make money off of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:45   that more along the lines of oh I'm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:46   conflicted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:48   I'm a woman and a superhero however like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50   however will I cope and it was just bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:53   all had survived i think better part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:56   the season and then never intended even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:58   automated a full season it was it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:00   pretty early casualty from what i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:01   remember Jason any any memorable TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:05   comic book failures on your list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:08   well there was I mean the mute next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:10   thing so thinking nette-c realized chris [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:13   claremont approach like oh the x-men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:14   unions that would might make a good TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:16   show and then I remember they tried that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:17   with even x which loosely I think tied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:22   to the comic Mutant X which was later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:24   spin-off of like the secondary act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:26   factor team with traffic and and I where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:29   it was actually a some sort of legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:31   deal there where they had did sold the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:33   rights to the x-men you to a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:35   studios I couldn't do an x-men comic but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:37   they could do for xmas show but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:39   could do a mutant x show and then there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:40   was a lawsuit right there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:42   weird and I never actually watched any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:43   of it but it didn't last very long but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:45   it was you know mute didn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:47   a mutant Academy kind of again but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:50   felt when i visit to have to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:51   superpower people in a high school say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:53   I'm right but that's the whole idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:55   250,000 novel about that actually so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:57   it's in troy what strangers is a common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1617">TS</a>]

00:27:00   is a comic they've they've rebooted that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:02   new x-men concept a bunch of times and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04   then grit and then grant Morris had his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:06   new x-men run we're basically he took it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:09   back to the Academy and put all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11   classic excellent background with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13   exception of Scott Emma and focused on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:15   new class of people and once you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:18   finished that run someone hit the reset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:20   button and isn't the problem with TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22   shows doing classic superheroes those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:24   classic defined as classic sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:27   superheroes style is that actors don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:30   look good in spandex and they don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:32   so you have to read you have to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:34   this is where we have the black leather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:35   models do the reactors don't and uh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:39   that superpowers are hard to show in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:41   like that right more this way ETA I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:43   the practical effects and so you find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:45   cartoons work well well and that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:47   think ultimately joss whedon did what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:49   did with Buffy which is like well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:50   can't really do spider-man but I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:51   do this where they read where regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:53   she's really fight and she could find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:55   she can fight she can kick ass and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:57   that's what she can do and that's her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1677">TS</a>]

00:27:58   power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1678">TS</a>]

00:27:59   what we're saying that we like about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:00   comics is that the sort of personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:02   drama stuff absent you can do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:05   superhero but you have it is like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:06   extreme background like those smallville [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:08   you know it's there yes way behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:10   because you can't know usually I'm on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:12   budget because what i was saying was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:13   it's such a great idea and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:15   we're talking about the the new x-men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:17   and and all the stuff and yet for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:19   reason isn't it doesn't have traction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:20   with comic audiences and actually wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:22   if it's gonna if it would have better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:23   traction on TV because again it is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:26   character-driven for the most part and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:28   you don't have to worry about oh we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:30   going to blow FX budget this week on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:31   floating brain walking down the hall you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33   can just you know modify it to be right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:35   no dl floating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:37   in episode all right jack and it hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:40   floating brain flies in a Zeppelin and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:42   then I'm there's a little show everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:45   that comes up with bring yeah all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:48   so the other TV show that they've talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:50   about being in development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:51   The Sandman yes that was a good idea bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:55   idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:56   I'm really intrigued to see how they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:58   do it because I've actually given this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:00   lot of thought believe it or not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:01   one of those you know you're on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:02   stationary bike and you start thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:03   what would happen it was thinking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:06   only way to do it successfully as if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:08   basically cut out every other trade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:09   because the way that no because the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:11   they wrote that because the way no game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:12   throughout the series is you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:14   have a book where the plot advance and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:16   then you have a book was basically a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:17   roundup of oh this is dream back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:19   Shakespearean x 0 this is and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:22   know another book with the plot advances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:24   and then another round up of fables or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:25   whatever and if you can cut out those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:28   fables and and one shots and just focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:31   on the story of a guy who's basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:32   could be trying to prompt the universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:34   and to help him commit suicide that then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:36   you've got your series is interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:38   way to look at the series that the easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:40   you think about it he every step he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42   takes over the course of the series is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:44   him doing something that's blatantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:46   against the self-interest here though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:48   that the show ends up being a incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:50   hulk style anthology series God that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:53   know where the same man has to go from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:56   town to town and collect his items [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:59   well you know whose it was just that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:01   anyway and and learned important lessons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:03   and business hours for good and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:06   moves on ya i think that's yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:09   thought Sandman is about that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:11   you have to change or die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:13   yeah and what happens when you make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:15   choice and essentially that's because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:17   chooses not to change basically um I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:20   also like the family drama a spicy so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:22   what you could have I was thinking that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:23   you could TV do that kind of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:26   whole different cast of characters a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:27   whole different story every episode in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:29   our series of episodes me with that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:31   of family drama on top or in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:33   background latest in the series and was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:35   like no that can't possibly be done and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:37   then I remembered doctor who doctor who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:40   does pull off having a completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:41   different show you are virtually pulls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:44   off having a different show every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:46   episode so yeah so the fact that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:49   some episodes could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:50   very little about dream and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:52   episodes can be a lot about dream or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:54   family and that hopefully you wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:55   see the family very often because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:57   something that that works well but only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:59   in small doses and this became like hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:01   your body at the endless to do you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:04   it would we did just ridiculous right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:07   but I mean that that's where you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:08   into it's more of an anthology series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:10   with a through line which is rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:13   a standalone in ecology serious right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:15   because it at least you could you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:17   somebody to track that was that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:19   that's your premise of the incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:20   home gonna hate to say it except that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:22   there's probably a better modern example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:24   where there's a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:24   maybe the x-files before it disappeared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:27   up its own backside was like now where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:28   we sort of a monster-of-the-week with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:31   through him to karen is doing that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:33   now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:33   yes I find out where can it can be done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:36   right but i'll show you shouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:38   right good part of what the Sandman did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:39   well was take all those old seventies or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:42   sixties DC characters like the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:45   enable and use them and I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:46   that would work in television the way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:49   working well yeah there's not there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51   also because i was there are some plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:52   lines that seemed made for TV like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:54   there's that whole I think was the dolls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:55   house plot line where you find out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:57   rose Walker is that what is the word for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1917">TS</a>]

00:32:00   it she's some nexus between the dream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:02   world in the waking world and when she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:03   has the names and she drags and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:05   everybody her boardinghouse and you find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:07   out all of their backstory for the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09   in the Golden Age Sandman you who ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:12   up being the parents of Danielle who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14   ended up being anyway spoiling it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:17   there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:17   the serial killer convention would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:18   great arc as well and that's that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:20   a great two story beginning to end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:23   yeah anyway because it's just someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:25   couldn't really say never ever pull any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:28   of that off i think the trick would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:29   subtle tea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:31   you know the the research showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:32   restraint in the stories i guess the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:34   question what to say that is because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:37   depends on what the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:38   making a TV show want from the TV show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:39   for example walking garnish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:41   well the government that the guy who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:43   linked to this is no is the showrunner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:45   of supernatural yeah who is what I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:48   seen is generally thought to be a fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:49   stand-up guy who kinda gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:52   genre TV and androgen source material it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:55   is the thing it was Sandman was one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:58   the reasons it was quite successful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1978">TS</a>]

00:32:59   interesting was it it was shara bending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:02   as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:03   yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:04   how do you do that and Jonna if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:05   approach it as a genre i don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:07   it's gonna work because the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:09   about the Sandman is it talked about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:10   it in its own narrative talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12   narrative and storytelling and it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14   story within a story and all those sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:16   of things that's so interesting to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:18   and think about but seeing it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:20   screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:21   it's much harder also it's not exactly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:24   linear story because even write it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:26   bounce back and forth you get a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:28   flashbacks to a lot of different periods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:29   and the whole missing brother thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:33   oh yeah that's the thing is that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35   dream and delirium go looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:36   destruction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:38   that's basically a cross B hope road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:41   trip right there it's really it's a well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43   it's a really funny sequence and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:45   would make a really funny plotline over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:47   the course of a couple episodes but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:50   is the method will beat it depends it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:51   could be played like three or four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:52   different ways on TV and some of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:53   could be great but otherwise it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:55   look their wacky huh and now they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:57   found their brother who want something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:58   to do with them and has a talking dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2038">TS</a>]

00:33:59   you know it'sit's I smell series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:02   yeah there's delirium alone would make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:04   great series and she's just wackiness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:06   ensues CI I've only read the first like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:11   this even met the family yet yeah no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:13   that's the thing that the family is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:15   interesting I wanted to be used very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:18   very very infrequently one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20   that game it does really well for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:21   entire series he drops enough clues to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:23   keep utilized about some of these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:24   more characters but he never gives you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:26   an explanation for example the youngest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:29   one delirium was originally delight and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:30   then one day she turned into the she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:32   turning into delirium and he never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:34   explains why that happens it just did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:35   but it was a bad thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:37   yeah and and there's so there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:39   it's actually reference where he teases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:42   the reader towards the end of it where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:43   she pulls her head together for a moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:44   and asks her brother do you know why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:46   turned into delirium and he's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:48   actually now and she said well there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:50   things outside your world will never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:51   know and that's basically game in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:54   telling the audience get used to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:56   where did I get all the and I wonder if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:58   TV audiences are ok with that because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2098">TS</a>]

00:35:00   you know we're talking about a culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:01   where people right endlessly blog and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:04   and recap shows to try to ring every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:06   center of meaning of how are they going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:08   to do if you've got source material that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:10   admits hey I'm not going to give you all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:12   the answers because i don't think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:13   need them well they might like a gazelle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15   then be able to project their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17   right and talk about an endlessly on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:19   internet about what it means yeah well i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:21   think the producers of lost spending the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:23   last year that shows the on the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:24   saying they weren't going to answer all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:26   the questions and the result was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:27   everybody yelled at them for not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:29   answering all the questions right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:30   all right well this is an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32   issue is is there is a storyteller ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:34   contractually obligated to give you all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:36   of the answers absolutely not no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:38   yeah but something still so she could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:40   sense of entitlement among TV viewers a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:42   lot of the time that every piece has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:44   have seven meaning it has to make sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:45   because most of TV isn't challenging or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:48   and they've been trained to expect TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:50   did too to give it to them in this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:52   of comfortable package but that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54   like 20 minutes and one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:56   that killed me about the criticism loss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:58   there are lots of great reasons to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2158">TS</a>]

00:35:59   criticize last I think loss was a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:00   show i think was I I'm willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:02   forgive its faults for it the ambition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:04   that they had with it but the fact was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:06   negatively they they were treating it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:09   like a novel and one of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:11   great novels do is frustrate you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:13   the difference is if you end a chapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:15   with a frustrating cliffhanger and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:16   you see that the next chapter is about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:18   different character and that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:20   gonna have to wait multiple chapters to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:21   get back to the thing that's frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:23   you you can power through and keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:25   reading whereas on TV it's the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:28   the episode and you have to wait a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:29   and then if the first scene of the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:31   episode shows you that they're not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:32   to talk at all about what you saw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:34   last know what you're angry that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:37   episode and then for the next time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:38   you're carrying around which actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40   happened on lost in that last season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:41   they did a whole episode that was just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:43   flashback episode and people were up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:44   arms made the torches and pitchforks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:46   this is why you just watch TV on DVD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:48   because yeah because as a novelist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:51   I mean novice they they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:53   frustrate the reader that's that's part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:56   of the storyline it had you have to kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:58   of what they doing it right but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:01   actually one of the reasons why comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:02   work differently is a different media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:04   then television even though on paper it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:08   since you can kind of think it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:09   same because they both have storyboards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:11   writing comics a storyboard for film but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:13   the difference in the comics is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:14   control the time and in a movie or TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:17   show you don't and that means different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:20   narrative choices yet which is why Alan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:23   Moore was always the watchman is not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:25   know can't be a film know and I reviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:27   read anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:28   I have you read anything by david lapham [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:30   david lapham the name is familiar but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:32   is not a lot of things but one of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:34   best works as a series called stray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:36   bullets which was his creator-owned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:38   which followed some interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:40   characters and bad things happening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:42   them and it came out around the time of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:45   pulp fiction and that sort of John was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:49   as popular media and David lapins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:51   storytelling was very much had that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:53   of sense to it and started in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:55   seventies it kind of jumped all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:56   time wise but it was a group of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:57   characters that followed as very really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:59   good and interesting and he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:01   approached by a lot of Hollywood to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:04   stray bullets into a film because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:06   kind of already right eye and he said no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:10   then stray bullet is a comic it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:12   only work as a comic I'm i'll happily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:14   write you a film that has this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16   thing in it but not stray bullets and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:20   probably have a lot more money now had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:22   he done that sure but I respect totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:25   respected that he's like no stray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:27   bullets as a comic and will only work as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:29   a comic and I had to do with some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:30   that time and how you can manipulate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32   time and play with it and how the reader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34   bring stuff to it that you can't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36   when you because in a way comic reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:38   is an active activity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:40   yeah we're television watching a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:42   watching as a passive activity so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:46   it's hard to Marshall McLuhan actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:48   broke it down differently where he'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:50   differentiate between movies and TV and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:52   I can remember the argument for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:53   different engagements but the others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:54   when you're reading a comic I agree that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:56   it's definitely more of a sense of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:58   have you have control over how you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:00   consume the narrative and with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:02   television you again unless you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:04   watching on DVD if it's your wedding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:06   from episode to come every week you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:07   at the mercy of someone else's schedule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:09   and pacing and storytelling in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:10   that that can be incredibly emotionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:13   frustrating fully invested in it so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:16   even even in the within the confines of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:19   the story you know you can you at your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:21   own pace and take your time or leap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:24   ahead and and one second is one second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:26   on TV with bacon do some compression but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:29   they do the compression and make control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:31   when it happens right that said you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:33   the TV and movies are are vastly more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:36   popular media know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:38   and comic books and I'm also the one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:41   the criticisms I would have about about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:43   that that statement about the well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:46   know you can adapt this is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:47   everything is an application so it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:49   be true but if so it's sort of true for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:50   everything I mean nothing is that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:52   talked about the walking dead earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:54   the walking dead on AMC is not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:56   be Robert Kirkman's the walking dead it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:57   can't be even even even that watchman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2397">TS</a>]

00:40:00   movie which was about his faithful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:02   attempt to right to the source material [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:03   as possible and shows it can't be it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:06   not the same it is impossible so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:09   always going to be a different thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:11   think what you take out of an adaptation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:12   is you maybe take some of the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:14   points to take some character names take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:15   the look I mean that you take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:17   storyboard sometimes a lot of the promos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:19   for i'm walking dead are essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:21   like panels from the walking dead staged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:25   as as photos as posters with live-action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:28   characters so you can take bits and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:30   pieces of it but in the end it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32   know it's gonna be with walking it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:34   gonna be frank darabont really kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:36   putting together what the show is as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:37   opposed to what Robert Kirkman did with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:40   the and his artist with a comic just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:43   think of the most successful partner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:44   watch more than where the opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:45   credits which are basically stage like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:47   moving comic when you think about right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:49   right it's a montage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:50   yeah right and its narrative and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:52   works really really well and it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:54   real comic feel that the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:55   movie simply does not so whether a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:57   property is successful it going from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2457">TS</a>]

00:41:00   comics to TV or film comes down to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:02   choices the producers and directors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:05   actors make in that adaptation i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:08   say that that's accurate that yet it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:09   it is in the details and it's not about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:12   comics being fundamentally unfilmable or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:15   filmer below [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:15   I think comics lend themselves really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:17   well to that I think there are comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:20   that would never ever work as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:22   adaptation for example i'm thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:23   about anything Alex Ross ever works on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:25   because kill the kingdom come for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:27   example that would be just a horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:29   adaptation I think we'll keep the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:31   interesting the no Kingdom Come was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:32   seeing the future of all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:33   characters and I don't have any of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:35   history is much less interesting but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:37   something like Marvel's we have you kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:39   of walk through the history of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:42   with the superhero like holy cats these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:44   people are emerging and yet that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:45   be an interesting TV show told from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:47   point of view of the photographer really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49   i was thinkin be a nightmare to produce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:51   just because one of the ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:52   marvel's works so well is because again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:53   you got that beautiful alex ross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:54   painting and composition and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:57   photorealism or whatever you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2517">TS</a>]

00:41:59   call it where it's obvious he's painting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:00   models and how are you going to get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:03   sense of hyper reality when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:05   shooting on TV it would be with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:06   whole thing was filmed in HDR oh god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:08   they're a lot to tell to show you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:11   that you can do that though one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:13   favorite episodes to my top 10 of buffy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:16   is never so called the Zeppo and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:19   entire premise of the Zeppo is you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:21   following along one of the supporting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:23   characters and the main plot involving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:25   the hero dispatching a villain that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:27   going to destroy the world if they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:29   stop them happens in the background and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:32   occasionally the main the the supporting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:33   character will wander into the scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:35   where there's a giant tentacle packing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:37   then there's a flames and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:39   that but he's got to go over here and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:40   this other thing and it's great that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42   works as a change of pace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:43   I'm not sure whether something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:44   Marvel's would work as its own thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:46   because it is again so I think depending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:49   on the on the mythology and and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:52   backstory but you know I think those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:54   those the Alex rasta I mean that is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:57   different from taking something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2577">TS</a>]

00:43:00   that those are those are very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02   different works i think that most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04   stuff that you see with it an albatross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:06   it's also very old faithful to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:07   history in the the the legacy of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:10   characters and stuff if you go in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:12   other direction and do more of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:13   misty shears sort of great American hero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:15   which takes the various genres elements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:18   and kind of makes fun of them in place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:19   with them or something that does it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:21   perhaps less cynicism the tick the tick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:24   I was going to see you you teach the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:25   subject to which is which which actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:28   works really well when all of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:29   without all of its adaptation right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:31   there was a very successful election yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:33   very unsuccessful live action although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:36   really could really final element in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:39   the way that mattered most which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:40   that it was good right yeah a 100 and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:43   really special style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:44   yes which which is important because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:46   that's actually one of the irrational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:48   bugbears i have is if you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:49   take a visual medium like collect comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:51   books and then push it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:52   TV then by God think about how you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:54   it to look what if you're going to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:56   that already know story a guy in a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:59   blue superhero suit you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:01   embrace the fact that it is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:02   seem kind of ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:04   yeah and and just look at everything so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:06   with the tick there's that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:08   they're the the robot that was built to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:10   set the Russian robot Soviet robot built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:12   to assassinate jimmy carter a pilot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:14   then I much cuter than jimmy carter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:17   there's a battle in an elevator and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:18   there's you know it's one shade away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:20   from being a fight in the sixties Batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:22   series right but you know under a sheet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24   in half an hour played for laughs oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:26   right but what about this is why i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:29   never take Nestor Carbonell seriously as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:31   a bad guy to use is Manuel exact time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:33   anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:33   batmanuel to me so but yeah you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:36   that didn't take is an awesome example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:38   of adaptation both because from the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:40   to the cartoons they have like that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:43   a great car to write you haven't seen it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:44   is worth for grown-ups get it all on DVD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:47   read it and aid and put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:49   closed-captioned because we're closed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:50   captioning for the theme song alone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:52   actually really really funny yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:54   then and then they had to adapt it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:55   for television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:56   yeah and they have like the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:57   archetypes are there even though the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2697">TS</a>]

00:44:59   characters names or rights issues change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:01   captain captain Liberty instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:03   american-made and red and that Manuel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:05   which is what a triangle to the later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:08   rounds right yeah deflator mouse to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:09   Batman well yeah this is such a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:12   just as many character flaws but Latin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:14   another fairly successful adaptation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:18   which is really into the radar was when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:21   MTV around the max way back in the early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:22   nineties i never because that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:25   nothing actually did see but on DVD of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:27   that think it was part of their late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:29   they would run on late-night first was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:31   part of liquid television and then just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:32   ran as a standalone bumped up against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:34   beavis and butt-head because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:36   your natural constituency and Tom but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:39   had never read anything by sam kieth i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:41   just watched the series and then I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:43   back and read the comics and was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:44   there surprised at how nimbly he took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:46   all of the the strength of comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:48   was that written by mezclar lobe turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:51   and drawn by sam kieth I don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:55   just understand he's being associated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57   with her hundreds of uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:58   comics listeners saying the answer right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:02   there listening but sadly we it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:04   podcast you can't let us go ahead and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:05   shout guys yes that was loud as you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:07   show i'm sorry it was the 90s it was on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:09   @midnight I didn't pay attention to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:11   credits before we go I I one more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:13   question which is if there was a comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:15   that's laying out there somewhere that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:16   you would recommend say uh you happen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:19   run into a friend of yours from high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:21   school and it turns out there a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:22   producer and they're looking for new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:23   properties they say you're into comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:25   you have anything i should look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:27   anything that we might be something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:29   we could turn into a a sellable kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:32   property [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:33   do you have anything off the top of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:35   hand that you would you tell this person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:36   that you just ran into on the sidewalk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:38   if you're your enemy from high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:40   who now is looking for a a tip about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:42   about comics you can think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:45   well i think i have to ask for talking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:47   limited run series for something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:48   they want if they want a syndicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:50   resistance that isn't specific hey there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:52   just looking for anything that they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:54   pick up their bosses they don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:55   fired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:56   oh I know Sandman mystery theater than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:59   nineteen thirties Sandman by a guy davis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:02   and Matt know the ponytail did the mage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:08   the writer important the ponytail man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:13   also did Grendel wrote you guys are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:17   there be there shaking their heads of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:18   many people who are listening to this he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:20   did great back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22   ah his name is on the tip of my tongue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:23   on that Murdock no that's not right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:25   it'll come to me it's like all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:28   he's blond created Grendel and mage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:30   now is writing Madame Xanadu or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:34   oh you see my friend Madame zat Arras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:37   right to the guy yeah okay I know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:40   talking about a mystery theater but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:42   is actually great because it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:43   there isn't a superhero costumes it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:46   really about the relationship between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:47   Wesley Dodds and Diane what's her name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:50   and that relationship is so beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:53   and amazing and told so magical agner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:57   matt wagner thank you you're welcome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2877">TS</a>]

00:47:59   google yeah but it's developed so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:03   well and how she goes from this sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:06   your girl he meets it was almost told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:08   from her point of view a lot and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:10   how she becomes a full part of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:12   relationship in his Sandman and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:14   great series and I think would make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:17   good television show in a Louis and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:19   Clark II kind of way but without without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:22   teri hatcher yeah that's what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:23   thinking you got ya see ya all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:26   Lisa any thoughts you know I'm actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:29   i would pitch Tim Hunter because it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:31   back it goes back to the whole well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:35   a couple hot points we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:36   which is what you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:37   somebody who is struggling with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:38   slings and arrows of adolescence because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:40   you know over the course of the over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:42   course of serious from this gawky 12 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:44   13 year old kid to being 17 or 18 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:46   old and he has to come into his powers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:49   and he's got a messed-up family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:49   situation has to try to unravel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:52   there's a woman here there's a girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:53   falls in love with who gets screwed over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:54   by somebody who may or may not be Tim's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:56   mother and it could also work as one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:59   those oh here's our caper of the week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:01   where this week we're done with fairies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:02   or this week we're dealing with somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:04   who wants to do the targets of Beltane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:06   in the public park or whatever and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:10   would work again because you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:12   the overarching Who am I with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:14   whether Tim Hunter themes and you also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:16   have the the the episodic here's how he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:19   solves this problem magic and it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:22   be cheap because you wouldn't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:23   rely on too many special effects because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:26   that's the problem with a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:26   superhero ones is certainly true I i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:30   i'm drawing a blank here i actually had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:32   a very clever and question I I I now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:34   got nothing I was so blown away by your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:36   by your answers that I have completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:40   invincible that you go to answers and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:43   do love invincible but it's absolutely a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:46   nightmare but they would be that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:47   thatthat's animated let's go with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:49   enemy yeah one of the yes it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:51   beautiful animated series such gorgeous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:54   start the effort anyway if you could get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:56   that emotion wow so since I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:59   completely lost the train of thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:01   there i'm going to shift gears one last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:03   time and and say Clancy Brown is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:06   ville termites oh my gosh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:07   hey Lisa did you read those uh those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:10   micronauts comic books i love you i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:12   i did read them what did you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:15   from from the perspective of somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:16   you probably didn't read them in 1978 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:19   you know I didn't but if you had handed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:22   them to me and said guess what year they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:23   were written in I could have um like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:27   so this would be late seventies early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:29   release just based on the art alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:31   which was a nice trip down memory lane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:34   I get the feeling i had destroyed my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:36   childhood know what I was gonna say is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:37   get that feeling i would have gotten a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:38   little bit more out of them if I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:40   have cross-referenced them with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:41   actual toys because there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:42   technologies that came up and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44   and many other jobs as much as you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:46   it was in the terms of a TV or a toy by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:50   in microns ended up being pretty far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:52   away from the toys just because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:54   were it was pretty limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:56   that said there was some pretty there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:57   were there was something that i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3057">TS</a>]

00:50:58   like such as the character who foresees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:00   a human now he's a centaur then he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:02   human again then he's a center when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:03   feels like it for prints are gone his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:06   sentence at Baron cars has brought body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:07   banks you see ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:09   the body begs her to a centaur because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11   the toy you could take the white horse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:12   and that and the guy and you can take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:14   the legs off the guy instead of the body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:15   banks are really cool idea the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:17   you have this rich / class that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:18   basically has has guaranteed themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:20   immortality by taking surface and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:24   know borrowing their bacon over using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:25   their body parts it's like that novel / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:28   movie just commit never let me go where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30   Oh congratulations poor people your job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:32   is to provide fodder for the decadent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34   rich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:34   yeah that mean the mean old the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:37   patrician lady yanking out a young young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:40   body in the body banks and she picks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42   sadly she picks the name of the woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:44   who is the rebel leader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:46   oh god yeah the toad or splitter with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:48   slug slug that's her name yes yes but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:51   was a bad one horrible coincidence there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:53   one of things i love about that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:54   what is that they set up this whole Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:56   Wars plot and then they immediately blow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:58   you into earth so that because like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:00   Star Wars plotters part 1 part 2 is ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:02   but I love your time sequence or how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:04   make them tiny and we send into florida [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:06   and there's that there's the the moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:08   that really sets the stage about when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:09   this is taking place is that they knock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:10   out the power in daytona beach florida [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:12   and the guy random guy shouts I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:16   watch donnie and marie yeah like wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:18   okay it is the seventies alright but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:21   then it ends up with the NASA astronauts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:23   and there's the crazy nasa astronaut who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:25   part machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:26   I mean we got the Prometheus pit where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:29   where he can fling things into alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:31   universes and Aaron Carter comes out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:33   he's the size of a human and and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:35   the direction of captain universe which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:37   thrown in there means else's shoes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:39   it is insane let me let me pretend to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:42   the voice of the audience uh who those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:45   listening may not have read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:48   Micronauts recently or just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:49   everything the is there any way I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:52   get this fabulous thing aside from ebay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:56   well okay so the best places you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:58   get this uh there's there's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3178">TS</a>]

00:53:00   adjacent there's the bill torrentget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:01   torrent yeah if you want to pirate it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:04   not actually available for rights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:05   reasons I don't think you could feel to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:07   set and if you do look for the Maginot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:08   special edition bittorrent I'll get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:10   the first 12 issues in their recolored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:12   kind of very nice redone version the on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:15   otherwise checker the checker publishing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17   never did a micro Nazi took a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:20   these yeah your property i think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:22   no way I think there's no collection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:24   beyond the the five special edition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:26   issues because you could get on ebay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:27   would you say the economic store for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:29   cheap because the rights issues are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:30   muddled and nobody knows exactly who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:32   the rights to do watch that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:33   probably means there's nobody to see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:36   if you bittorrent uh i would hate it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:39   would we are not lawyers we cannot give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:41   legal yes I would hate to promote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:43   bittorrent on this on this episode other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:46   than to say that it is available and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:49   sure those issues are readily available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:50   on bittorrent and it may or may not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:52   true that one of them one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:54   Micronauts issues on bittorrent was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:56   missing a page and that i scanned and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:57   sent of the guy who was doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:58   torrent probably not true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:01   probably not true probably night he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:02   probably didn't do that h8 of didn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:05   try any of this at home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:06   that's a great missing page which I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:09   because i have all those issues anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:10   it is it is a I'll obviously it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:13   for me to to take my childhood out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:15   the equation but i love the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:17   saying your comic book writer and you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:19   got these toys and you get star wars is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:20   really big and make something up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:24   where those first 12 issues that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:26   that that that they did a bill manlo who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:29   had the crazy imagination and Michael [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:31   golden who is the artist on those first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:33   12 issues it's just it's unlike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:35   classroom much else that I've seen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:37   it's funny because it could have easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:38   just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:39   tiling things on it got revolutions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:41   going on they've got and as I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:43   they've got they've got you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:45   resides the integrated it'sit's yeah oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:47   yeah oh yeah there's the battle have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49   alibi don't have it off your and his kin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:53   his brother who is the albino want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:55   remembered it's nice to hear that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:56   child had keeping your living up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:59   expectations still because I did but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:01   that childhood comic for me was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:03   x-men and when i go back and reread some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:05   of those issues now I just I after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:08   reading a few of my stock so i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10   never go back and read in acts because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:11   my memory of it is so much better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:13   the actual like x-men 1 99 when Rachel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:16   became phoenix and i just love it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:19   now it doesn't have the same Wolverine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:22   saying for the hundredth time I'm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:23   best there is at what I do and I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:25   very nicely to me when I was a kid that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:26   was like how I thought oh he's resigned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:28   himself to his dark fate and right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:30   it's yeah having fun to read i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:32   that jason recently helped me find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:34   first comic book i remember buying which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:37   was manual x manual number 5 193 la soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:42   where they often said I think they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:45   some that some of the fantastic four get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:46   abducted by the boon and so the x-men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:48   have to step in and help out Reed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:50   Richards the biggest douche in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:52   episode VII and sweat and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:56   word I I don't like to eat a douche i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:58   don't like to use that word but in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:00   case that I mean in the splash page at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:02   least there with his with a pipe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:05   oh yeah like that hot little serpent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:07   search and see because he's ignored the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:09   dinner she made and matt said well this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:12   is interesting is I went back and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:14   reread it as an adult and I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:15   actually find that the the hooks in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:18   comic that that resonated with me as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:19   kid and honestly I think the reason it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:21   got me hooked is because that's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:22   a comic where storm and Kitty Pryde kick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:25   a lot of ass is from from the page 3 on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:28   and so you can kind of overlook the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:31   that Cyclops is running around a cravat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:33   and making that up yeah and at times and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:38   there's and it's just a really it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:41   frankly it's a stupid story but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:42   are parts of it were you know by my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:44   fifth-grade imaginations like wow and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:47   welcome back and reading it I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:48   figure out that that's what happened and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:50   that's what matters of things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:51   those annuals back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:52   from that period too is that you had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:54   self-contained story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:56   yeah it was letter than your story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:59   because days before pages right so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:01   could end up i think about backups in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:02   but yeah it was it was as they also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:04   president that the the Savior with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:07   love affair with the princess of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:08   Shiar Empire thing was interwoven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:09   through it too right but it was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:11   could read it without and it was big and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:13   it is meant to be kind of a widescreen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:14   spectacle which I mean the 22 you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:17   mentioned doctor who earlier it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:18   doctor who christmas special is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:20   the rules are not the same because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:21   meant to be seen by a broader audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:23   the thing wrestling with with Colossus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:26   at the end of it tonight all right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:28   all in video and mud wrestling Colossus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:30   another they wear on their arm wrestle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:33   out and then Kitty Pryde comes out in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:35   bikini distracts Colossus and again in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:37   fifth grade--well say that's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:39   yes why what'd ya mean a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:41   fifteen-year-old can't ride in a bikini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:43   yeah well it was the fact that she could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:44   that the boys were interested in her it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:46   was the hole right now she can kick butt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:48   and boys liked her and that was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:49   a that was kind of a different message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:51   than the one that a lot of girls receive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:53   with the pop culture they get you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:54   when preadolescent period so that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:56   right if the boy's reaction to Kitty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:58   Pryde was a bit different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:00   yeah they're women out there who are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:02   keys around me look at what was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:04   gonna say wow she looks good in a bikini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:06   and she kicks ass yeah right and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:08   my age and she's mine temporary that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:11   right yeah well I mean this is why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:13   will you will find a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:14   30-somethings and 40-somethings who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:16   really like kitty pryde is because she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:18   was RP writer contemporary people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:19   outside of joss whedon in michael bendis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:22   although again well I mean that's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:24   the reasons that I i love when I here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:26   just wait and talk about katie price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:27   because he and I have apparently had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:29   exact same experience with the x-men and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:31   you know that's the other piece of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:33   buffy puzzle writing spider-man premise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:35   with Kitty Pryde is the lead was sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:38   and can I just say I loved it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:39   ultimate spider-man universal spider-man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:41   kitty pryde got together I want my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:42   favorite things about advanced did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:44   yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:45   kitty part of peters world in high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:47   school writing was his connection to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:50   that it was like she was also Jewish and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:53   that was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:54   I'm going to hurt Brian Brian Brian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:56   Michael Bendis talk about that she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3536">TS</a>]

00:58:58   like get a crush on her but it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3538">TS</a>]

00:58:59   partly because she was Jewish like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:01   Jewish kid no hi or so when she was and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:03   she was from Susan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:04   should get a Midwest yeah i'll go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:06   because she went back to Chicago and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:07   the-the-the normal yeah actually that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:09   what I miss about comics from now from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:11   like the eighties is like we know Katie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:13   Price hometown with Chicago and I any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:15   the modern characters you have there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:17   isn't that sort of level of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:19   completeness about them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:21   maybe maybe it's there and we just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:22   know it I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:24   no it's not there now but that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:26   the example I mean Ben's doing that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:28   the ultimate spider-man it's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:29   these actually very TV like to bring us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:31   back all the way around creation of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:33   ensemble cast that you you would expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:36   in a comic book like that and yet you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:39   know ultimate spider-man is really kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:40   of an ensemble series now where it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:44   big beefy he could he would rename it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:46   Aunt May's house of wayward superheroes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:49   because that is what that comic is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:50   sure there is TV adaptation there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:52   usually right yeah right yeah I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:55   mind that you know nice man is here now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:57   great whenever it's like it's like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:59   old spider-man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59   old spider-man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00   this amazing friend or two and where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:01   they have them statute that you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3601">TS</a>]

01:00:02   turn and they have to swing in teenagers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:04   the better show yeah all that all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3604">TS</a>]

01:00:08   well I think we've run out of of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:10   and yes don't use bittorrent kids unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:13   you want to download the Micronauts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:15   anyway until next time i'm jason l and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:20   i will be next time to actually and I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:23   like to thank my guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:25   jason reitman thank you thanks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:27   coming over and Lisa Schmeisser thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:29   you very well try to have you a few more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:30   times before you have to be tried banks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:33   um well I actually kind of fun if I if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:35   login i'll sleep deprived and and and oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:38   yeah my head with hot guys with the baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3638">TS</a>]

01:00:40   asleep until it until enjoy a site where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:44   they babies are predictable that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:46   oh yeah oh yeah you you know you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:48   look at a baby and say oh yeah she'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:49   down for that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:51   now if I understand the whiskey works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:54   parenting tips not serious okay too many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3654">TS</a>]

01:01:00   such misers parenting tips podcast it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:03   will be a short broadcast in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:05   authority until next time we faithfully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:09   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:16   hello ladies look at your podcast then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:19   look at the uncomfortable podcast then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3679">TS</a>]

01:01:20   back at your parkas then back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:22   uncomfortable podcast sadly your podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:24   is not being comfortable podcast but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:26   you visit the in topical com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:32   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaTQ8j4/3692">TS</a>]