The Incomparable

4: This Film Presented in Mummy-Vision


00:00:00   it's September 2010 this is the [TS]

00:00:05   incomparable podcast we're back on the [TS]

00:00:09   incomparable podcast the topic today is [TS]

00:00:11   movies it's free form because we have [TS]

00:00:13   lots of really grand designs big plans [TS]

00:00:16   and pants to match and they they failed [TS]

00:00:19   miserably so instead that it's like the [TS]

00:00:22   potpourri category of the uncomfortable [TS]

00:00:24   i'm jason l joining me today on the [TS]

00:00:27   podcast we have from the wilds of [TS]

00:00:29   Massachusetts and more'n I'd and it's [TS]

00:00:32   nice to be back it seems like it's been [TS]

00:00:34   so long since the last time i was on a [TS]

00:00:36   podcast you're like on the podcast every [TS]

00:00:37   week now what's that about you got [TS]

00:00:39   almost everyday really use that your for [TS]

00:00:42   tool hehe podcast guy I got it all and [TS]

00:00:45   joining me from the wilds of Southern [TS]

00:00:47   California is ben boychuk hi Ben [TS]

00:00:49   hello my fine feathered friends there [TS]

00:00:52   are no feathers here this is not the [TS]

00:00:54   feathery podcast that's a different [TS]

00:00:56   podcast oh darn I think I supposed to be [TS]

00:00:57   on a different call up so movies movies [TS]

00:01:00   at the topic and I know you guys are [TS]

00:01:02   movie lovers i would actually thought I [TS]

00:01:04   would start by bringing up the topic of [TS]

00:01:06   movie music because that's like the [TS]

00:01:08   double bonus of geekiness and in [TS]

00:01:11   particular i was going to talk about [TS]

00:01:12   since this is the incomparable podcast [TS]

00:01:14   music in genre movies [TS]

00:01:16   Ben and I have had a running [TS]

00:01:18   conversation about the star trek [TS]

00:01:19   soundtracks that is exactly what I was [TS]

00:01:22   just thinking when you said that because [TS]

00:01:23   i have i have opinions [TS]

00:01:24   yeah that's that's good and then my no [TS]

00:01:26   Daniel a big john williams fan and a big [TS]

00:01:29   star wars and indiana jones fan as well [TS]

00:01:30   so we can talk john williams who has [TS]

00:01:32   never scored a star trek movie by the [TS]

00:01:35   way he has not but he has scored many [TS]

00:01:36   other large franchises and parts of that [TS]

00:01:39   was like the star wars and indiana jones [TS]

00:01:42   and he did the first 3i believe Harry [TS]

00:01:44   Potter movies at least the first two I [TS]

00:01:46   think I think he did the third one is [TS]

00:01:48   well I think that was the last one that [TS]

00:01:49   he did was did he do that or did they [TS]

00:01:51   just sort of play cues from the other [TS]

00:01:53   movies starting and starting in four [TS]

00:01:54   they actually play cues from like that [TS]

00:01:56   you know it's other composers using the [TS]

00:01:58   themes that he established in the first [TS]

00:02:00   three [TS]

00:02:00   nice nice sorry motif session say if i [TS]

00:02:03   want to sound all sophisticated so in [TS]

00:02:06   this discussion of composers where you [TS]

00:02:08   guys are probably more much more [TS]

00:02:09   well-versed in i am going to i'm gonna [TS]

00:02:10   throw out the first name here which is [TS]

00:02:12   michael giacchino who is an excellent [TS]

00:02:15   composer not only of the latest Star [TS]

00:02:19   Trek movie the JJ Abrams Star Trek [TS]

00:02:20   reboot [TS]

00:02:21   lots of the recent pics ours which are I [TS]

00:02:24   think excellent the incredibles is a [TS]

00:02:25   great score up as a very good score [TS]

00:02:28   he scored ratatouille to did yes and [TS]

00:02:30   also scored lost which i think is one of [TS]

00:02:33   the best scored TV shows of all time [TS]

00:02:35   it's interesting because the the music [TS]

00:02:37   on lost is very subtle righty like you [TS]

00:02:39   almost don't notice that they're there [TS]

00:02:40   is except one goes yeah I mean it's very [TS]

00:02:43   it's very weird show in that regard that [TS]

00:02:45   was my jakey no there there yes because [TS]

00:02:48   it they only use it very sparsely and [TS]

00:02:51   it's very subtle when it comes up and [TS]

00:02:53   you don't always think about it i think [TS]

00:02:54   that's that's good like because of that [TS]

00:02:56   show it would be very easy for it to be [TS]

00:02:59   distracting or overwhelming or take you [TS]

00:03:01   out of the moment but if they do such a [TS]

00:03:04   he does such a great job thereof of [TS]

00:03:06   reinforcing the feelings that you want [TS]

00:03:08   to experience the sort of the mystery [TS]

00:03:10   the suspense aspects of it and yet there [TS]

00:03:12   are those moments where it comes to the [TS]

00:03:13   fore and sometimes I i guess this is [TS]

00:03:15   would be a good question to ask you guys [TS]

00:03:17   in general that scores mostly for films [TS]

00:03:19   because you don't usually talk about it [TS]

00:03:20   although we could talk about it with [TS]

00:03:21   lost [TS]

00:03:22   do you notice the music in the film and [TS]

00:03:23   think oh wow that's a really nice piece [TS]

00:03:25   of music or do you say well you know [TS]

00:03:27   you're not really doing your job if I'm [TS]

00:03:28   noticing the music and not what's on the [TS]

00:03:30   screen because there are some moments in [TS]

00:03:32   Los where I actually felt like that [TS]

00:03:33   night and i liked it i didn't dislike it [TS]

00:03:36   that when they launched the the raft at [TS]

00:03:37   the end of the first season in there yet [TS]

00:03:39   incredibly uplifting score and i felt [TS]

00:03:41   myself thinking wow this is great music [TS]

00:03:44   for what's going on it took me out of [TS]

00:03:46   the moment maybe a little bit but I [TS]

00:03:47   didn't care because it was such a [TS]

00:03:48   beautiful piece of work so is that valid [TS]

00:03:50   to appreciate the music while you're [TS]

00:03:52   watching something or is that a failing [TS]

00:03:53   of either the music or the movie i think [TS]

00:03:55   so i know i think so i think i think [TS]

00:03:57   it's at its best score can be like [TS]

00:04:01   another character in the film or can [TS]

00:04:03   really really compliments the film in [TS]

00:04:05   that was some of the most memorable [TS]

00:04:06   films you'll see you [TS]

00:04:09   you often associate with music I mean [TS]

00:04:12   you could think of course of Star Wars [TS]

00:04:13   and and the inner Indiana Jones movies [TS]

00:04:16   and I think I think certainly the last [TS]

00:04:18   star trek film with the cheeky no star [TS]

00:04:21   trek is another great example of that I [TS]

00:04:23   mean that was a I read an article not [TS]

00:04:26   too long ago about how he approached it [TS]

00:04:29   and and he had said chiquinho did that [TS]

00:04:32   he was [TS]

00:04:34   little bit overwhelmed because you know [TS]

00:04:35   there's a there's a great tradition of [TS]

00:04:36   jerry goldsmith did all you know of some [TS]

00:04:39   of the original scores and then james [TS]

00:04:42   horner did two very very good scores for [TS]

00:04:44   four star trek to and star trek 3 and so [TS]

00:04:47   he had that you know very much on his [TS]

00:04:49   mind and he was sort of struggling with [TS]

00:04:51   it and then sat down with Abraham's JJ [TS]

00:04:54   Abrams and and they talked about it and [TS]

00:04:55   they decided that this this movie was [TS]

00:04:57   going to be a departure from that and [TS]

00:05:00   that he should really approach it not as [TS]

00:05:02   a space adventure film but as a film [TS]

00:05:06   about friends about these these friends [TS]

00:05:10   who would become lifelong friends and [TS]

00:05:12   how they got together and so I don't [TS]

00:05:15   know that that necessarily comes out [TS]

00:05:18   when you see the movie but if you think [TS]

00:05:19   about it knowing that and you listen to [TS]

00:05:22   it again you you get some of that some [TS]

00:05:25   of that pathos and some of that high [TS]

00:05:27   adventure stuff and I think it works i [TS]

00:05:29   think it works very well [TS]

00:05:30   [Music] [TS]

00:05:51   [Music] [TS]

00:05:54   yeah i like to I like GQ school actually [TS]

00:05:57   pop this the new star trek score [TS]

00:06:00   oh not too long ago and I like it though [TS]

00:06:03   I think that the soundtrack via the [TS]

00:06:04   album version that i bought which i [TS]

00:06:06   bought from itunes felt very disjointed [TS]

00:06:08   to me and that's difficult i think i [TS]

00:06:11   think soundtrack albums or score albums [TS]

00:06:12   have really have a have a problem with [TS]

00:06:14   that sometimes in that they get sort of [TS]

00:06:16   chopped up and the ques aren't always [TS]

00:06:19   exactly the same as they are in the [TS]

00:06:22   movie because in the movie they're also [TS]

00:06:23   edited to fit various seen lengths and [TS]

00:06:25   stuff like that and so I found that the [TS]

00:06:27   star trek album to have a couple [TS]

00:06:29   outstanding tracks on it but at the same [TS]

00:06:32   time to feel very disjointed for example [TS]

00:06:36   you know the use of some of the central [TS]

00:06:38   themes which I remember very vividly [TS]

00:06:41   from the movie because they really stood [TS]

00:06:42   out for me seem to only come up a couple [TS]

00:06:44   times in the kate in the course of Billy [TS]

00:06:47   entire album array whereas I felt like [TS]

00:06:49   they happened more in the movie and so I [TS]

00:06:51   right you know a little business on [TS]

00:06:52   where we're going is so I think [TS]

00:06:54   affecting in the movie and and effective [TS]

00:06:56   and it on the soundtrack you know you [TS]

00:06:59   almost missed it [TS]

00:06:59   I I kept saying oh yeah that was the [TS]

00:07:01   spot game and we'll never hear there is [TS]

00:07:02   a there is a deluxe version of the [TS]

00:07:05   soundtrack it came out words and it went [TS]

00:07:08   out of friend after about five minutes [TS]

00:07:09   because they only pressed 5000 copies of [TS]

00:07:12   it but I got one and it's it's the [TS]

00:07:16   complete score in order of appearance in [TS]

00:07:19   the film and it's awake i agree with you [TS]

00:07:22   completely that the standard album [TS]

00:07:24   version is kind of a disappointment in [TS]

00:07:26   that respect the deluxe version is great [TS]

00:07:28   and if you can get help get ahold of it [TS]

00:07:30   more power to you I'm going to look on [TS]

00:07:32   amazon right now okay you might be able [TS]

00:07:35   to anyway yeah you might have to go to [TS]

00:07:36   ebay for that [TS]

00:07:37   alright well that's good i'm glad to [TS]

00:07:39   know that something like that exists [TS]

00:07:40   because i find that that's a huge [TS]

00:07:42   problem i mean like movies were talking [TS]

00:07:44   you know movies that are a couple hours [TS]

00:07:45   long and you know a soundtrack that's an [TS]

00:07:48   hour short you know that they might sort [TS]

00:07:50   of hit the high notes as it were for [TS]

00:07:52   pardon the expression but the I always [TS]

00:07:54   feel like there's so much missing that [TS]

00:07:57   it's it's great when you can get a [TS]

00:07:59   larger version of the you know that [TS]

00:08:02   contains the entire score i had this [TS]

00:08:04   issue and i will bring up a score that i [TS]

00:08:06   really like oranges [TS]

00:08:07   serve as an aside was for a terrible [TS]

00:08:10   movie is the Phantom Menace core which [TS]

00:08:11   is actually a very good score on CD yeah [TS]

00:08:14   that's a great sports it's sort of john [TS]

00:08:16   williams getting to revisit that that [TS]

00:08:18   language that he he hadn't spoken in in [TS]

00:08:21   years and it was really nice really [TS]

00:08:23   more to the point there's a double CD [TS]

00:08:25   edition of back that is vastly superior [TS]

00:08:27   to the single the mission just but a [TS]

00:08:29   terrible movie but a terrible [TS]

00:08:34   [Music] [TS]

00:08:54   [Music] [TS]

00:08:56   speaking of great scores for for bad [TS]

00:09:00   films i mean our star trek is concerned [TS]

00:09:03   there is a deluxe edition of the star [TS]

00:09:05   trek 3 soundtrack that just came out a [TS]

00:09:08   couple months ago [TS]

00:09:09   terrible movie but it's a really good [TS]

00:09:11   score and in some i add in some ways I [TS]

00:09:14   think it maybe even a little bit better [TS]

00:09:15   than Star Trek to because both of those [TS]

00:09:18   were composed by james horner in the [TS]

00:09:21   early part of his career before he [TS]

00:09:22   started repeating himself and and if [TS]

00:09:26   there's some notice some really really [TS]

00:09:28   nice stuff on there and the difference [TS]

00:09:30   between Star Trek to start 3 at least as [TS]

00:09:32   far as the soundtrack goes is I think [TS]

00:09:34   order had a larger orchestra to work [TS]

00:09:36   with 43 than he did with two [TS]

00:09:40   [Music] [TS]

00:09:50   [Music] [TS]

00:09:57   you get the sense from the liner notes [TS]

00:09:59   of the special edition of the star 2 [TS]

00:10:02   soundtrack that corner was sort of hired [TS]

00:10:04   because he was young and she and didn't [TS]

00:10:06   give him anything to do there and then [TS]

00:10:07   with the third one there like all right [TS]

00:10:09   kid you proved yourself here have an [TS]

00:10:10   orchestra right and it and it shows and [TS]

00:10:13   in particular the queue where they're [TS]

00:10:16   stealing the enterprise from oh yeah [TS]

00:10:18   that that's a great great q and so that [TS]

00:10:21   alone was was worth buying the deluxe [TS]

00:10:24   edition for since the original [TS]

00:10:25   soundtrack disc is long out of print but [TS]

00:10:29   the the deluxe edition just came out I [TS]

00:10:30   think it's still available i think it's [TS]

00:10:32   reasonably priced wow I had both of [TS]

00:10:34   those on tape on connecticut back in the [TS]

00:10:36   day but but search or three not terrible [TS]

00:10:39   by the way I think it's mediocre but I i [TS]

00:10:41   don't think it was a terrible start to [TS]

00:10:42   fly and which actually had Jerry [TS]

00:10:44   Goldsmith revisiting his Star Trek the [TS]

00:10:47   motion picture score now that's bad [TS]

00:10:50   now let me tell you that the Star Trek [TS]

00:10:51   the motion picture score i maintain is [TS]

00:10:53   an awesome score and I have the two-disc [TS]

00:10:56   set of that came out a couple several [TS]

00:10:58   years ago now and I think that and i [TS]

00:11:02   recently ripped it to my it to my [TS]

00:11:03   computer since i rarely play CDs anymore [TS]

00:11:05   and i just love that I mean not only for [TS]

00:11:08   the fact that goldsmith created the [TS]

00:11:10   theme that would then go on to be used [TS]

00:11:12   as the theme for the next generation and [TS]

00:11:14   even fact I think goldsmith version in [TS]

00:11:16   the motion picture is slightly different [TS]

00:11:18   and superior i would argue [TS]

00:11:19   [Music] [TS]

00:11:36   but the whole sort of experimental [TS]

00:11:39   aspects with the electronic aspects and [TS]

00:11:42   you know dealing with the soundtrack for [TS]

00:11:44   feature and all of the the sort of wacky [TS]

00:11:47   parts i love i think it's great i think [TS]

00:11:49   it is a fantastic score so i can't speak [TS]

00:11:51   highly enough of that score though again [TS]

00:11:53   the movie itself is weird and kind of [TS]

00:11:57   mediocre yeah yeah that's the movie that [TS]

00:12:00   really needed an editor at like one and [TS]

00:12:03   then they released the special edition [TS]

00:12:04   and it might want two minutes more high [TS]

00:12:06   bias [TS]

00:12:07   oh yeah yeah but the beauty of those [TS]

00:12:09   flyby shots is that the music is quite [TS]

00:12:12   quite points for entertaining and I've [TS]

00:12:14   been trying to on your recommendation i [TS]

00:12:16   do not actually own a copy of the star [TS]

00:12:18   trek to score which I keep trying to [TS]

00:12:20   find but it's not available anywhere as [TS]

00:12:21   a electronic download right it was just [TS]

00:12:23   the silver screen music CD the last CD [TS]

00:12:26   that's the only CD I bought in the last [TS]

00:12:27   three years is that is that because it [TS]

00:12:29   was only available on CD is so [TS]

00:12:31   frustrating i hate it when that happens [TS]

00:12:32   but I thought I always thought was funny [TS]

00:12:34   because you mentioned that the tape [TS]

00:12:35   score and i remember that when i was in [TS]

00:12:37   high school my friend Evan had a the [TS]

00:12:40   tape of the star trek motion picture [TS]

00:12:42   score and I borrowed that from him for a [TS]

00:12:44   really long time and I think I even dug [TS]

00:12:46   my own copy of it at one point onto [TS]

00:12:48   cassette tape because i loved it someone [TS]

00:12:50   here's a little-known fact and actually [TS]

00:12:51   I don't know if been even knows this i [TS]

00:12:53   was disappointed when they did the [TS]

00:12:55   complete star trek to CD though that [TS]

00:12:58   it's missing a track that was on my tape [TS]

00:13:00   what's really on at the end of the [TS]

00:13:02   second side of the cassette of the star [TS]

00:13:04   trek to soundtrack boy were deep in the [TS]

00:13:06   weeds aren't we [TS]

00:13:07   it you know how on cassette tapes and [TS]

00:13:09   records at the time but especially tapes [TS]

00:13:11   you have side one inside too and they [TS]

00:13:13   would be not quite the same length and [TS]

00:13:15   you end up with like a big gap anh anh [TS]

00:13:16   at the end of the tape that you have to [TS]

00:13:18   fast-forward through if you have it over [TS]

00:13:19   and listen again after about I think [TS]

00:13:21   several minutes of silence at the end of [TS]

00:13:24   the star 2 soundtrack there's like a [TS]

00:13:25   three minute track that is like a pop [TS]

00:13:28   remix of the theme of star trek to with [TS]

00:13:31   drum machines and it's like up it i [TS]

00:13:34   don't know where it came from i don't [TS]

00:13:35   know who did it but my friends and I in [TS]

00:13:38   high school thought it was really cool [TS]

00:13:40   and we like a friend of mine made a [TS]

00:13:42   montage of the best scenes of star trek [TS]

00:13:44   to and and dubbed it over that that pop [TS]

00:13:48   remix thing how is that not made it to [TS]

00:13:50   youtube as well i don't think i have a [TS]

00:13:52   copy of it anymore but but um uh or it [TS]

00:13:56   would be on YouTube now but I it's funny [TS]

00:13:58   and I so hoping somebody would explain [TS]

00:14:00   the liner notes of what the heck that [TS]

00:14:01   was even was because I don't even know [TS]

00:14:03   if it appeared on the record but I know [TS]

00:14:04   that it was hidden away with a secret [TS]

00:14:06   bonus track on the tape of star trek to [TS]

00:14:08   suit maybe james horner knows maybe he [TS]

00:14:10   doesn't ever want that to be heard again [TS]

00:14:13   yes I don't know ok let's talk Jackie [TS]

00:14:15   know for one more minute though I i [TS]

00:14:16   wanted to i'm curious what you think his [TS]

00:14:19   best work is because he's done a lot of [TS]

00:14:21   different film work now with Pixar with [TS]

00:14:23   with Star Trek and and on on TV with [TS]

00:14:26   lost any any opinions about that because [TS]

00:14:29   I think incredible is the one that kills [TS]

00:14:31   me because that's like I know perfect [TS]

00:14:33   i'm john barry askah James Bond score [TS]

00:14:37   with the brass and I i love the [TS]

00:14:39   incredibles I don't own a lot of his [TS]

00:14:41   albums but i will say that from you know [TS]

00:14:43   my memories of watching the movie i [TS]

00:14:45   thought that the score top was really [TS]

00:14:47   fantastic and also just because i think [TS]

00:14:51   you know my given my surpassing familiar [TS]

00:14:54   with Jackie no I think that was very [TS]

00:14:55   different from anything else I'd heard [TS]

00:14:57   from at that point which was primarily [TS]

00:14:59   like lost right and I and I thought that [TS]

00:15:02   you know the up score would was so it [TS]

00:15:05   was so sweet and and melodious and fit [TS]

00:15:08   so well with the story that it really I [TS]

00:15:11   really there's you know the theme that [TS]

00:15:13   they played and you know the Oscars [TS]

00:15:14   whenever they show a clip and they play [TS]

00:15:15   sort of the central motif of that of the [TS]

00:15:18   movie and it's just it's such a it's [TS]

00:15:20   such a note-perfect beautiful little [TS]

00:15:22   little piece [TS]

00:15:23   [Music] [TS]

00:15:40   I just saw an interview with him where [TS]

00:15:45   where I'm not sure whether it's it i [TS]

00:15:48   could misinterpret what he said or [TS]

00:15:49   whether he actually made it this way but [TS]

00:15:50   the impression I got was that he [TS]

00:15:52   believes that his score saved that movie [TS]

00:15:57   because he believes that he tell you [TS]

00:16:00   what he said was something like if I if [TS]

00:16:02   I don't score the the montage right [TS]

00:16:06   where you really forget feel the emotion [TS]

00:16:09   of of the guy and his wife and their [TS]

00:16:12   life together in him losing her [TS]

00:16:14   he said by the time you get to the point [TS]

00:16:16   where there are dogs hijacking airplanes [TS]

00:16:18   you're just gonna be checked out and say [TS]

00:16:20   and I thought it was really interesting [TS]

00:16:21   and i'm not quite sure whether he was [TS]

00:16:23   misquoted or what's going on because [TS]

00:16:25   he's essentially saying any maybe right [TS]

00:16:27   is that unless you make that emotional [TS]

00:16:29   investment in that montage which is kind [TS]

00:16:31   of amazing in which the music is a major [TS]

00:16:32   part of because there is no dialogue [TS]

00:16:35   there it is just the music and visual [TS]

00:16:36   right right that that movie might not [TS]

00:16:38   play as well if you if you don't get the [TS]

00:16:40   emotional investment to ground you [TS]

00:16:41   before you have talking dogs who are [TS]

00:16:44   running around a a dirigible a Zeppelin [TS]

00:16:47   if you will that makes that makes a lot [TS]

00:16:50   of sense to me [TS]

00:16:51   yeah I think this is probably my [TS]

00:16:53   favorite and for just that reason I mean [TS]

00:16:55   it really that you know that that first [TS]

00:16:59   six seven minutes so that you know what [TS]

00:17:01   that montage it just rips your heart [TS]

00:17:03   right out [TS]

00:17:04   it was just so good second second place [TS]

00:17:07   might be the the ratatouille score which [TS]

00:17:09   is just so charming and you know [TS]

00:17:11   locative of this this world that they [TS]

00:17:14   create in Paris but now i want to put in [TS]

00:17:17   the good word for for the music that God [TS]

00:17:20   had noticed which was his videogame work [TS]

00:17:22   and the Medal of Honor series which I [TS]

00:17:26   guess is like that you have 12 or 13 [TS]

00:17:28   years old now and that that first medal [TS]

00:17:31   of honor score which is on CD it's [TS]

00:17:33   pretty easy to get i think it's even [TS]

00:17:34   downloadable is really good and it you [TS]

00:17:36   know it's really sounds like a film and [TS]

00:17:38   it's really just it's really cool [TS]

00:17:40   [Music] [TS]

00:17:54   actually Jason I like the incredible [TS]

00:17:57   score but I I'm kind of its kind of [TS]

00:17:59   third tier for me precisely because it's [TS]

00:18:02   a little bit too derivative of John be [TS]

00:18:04   right [TS]

00:18:05   this is true this is true I i see what I [TS]

00:18:07   love I love it I and I part of it is [TS]

00:18:09   that i love that movie yeah and then one [TS]

00:18:12   more thing that for time there I would [TS]

00:18:13   have said that that it would be very [TS]

00:18:15   difficult for him to go wrong and it's [TS]

00:18:19   interesting that you brought up the [TS]

00:18:20   interview which i'd love to track down [TS]

00:18:22   and look at the you know that his music [TS]

00:18:24   saved may have saved help save up which [TS]

00:18:27   is interesting because his worst score [TS]

00:18:30   by far has got to be landing lost which [TS]

00:18:34   was abysmal e bad and the music sounds [TS]

00:18:38   like it's written to the material if you [TS]

00:18:41   if you hear it so he wasn't trying to [TS]

00:18:43   save it he was just going with i guess [TS]

00:18:46   so i saw the movie months after I [TS]

00:18:48   because i have this kind of funny habit [TS]

00:18:51   i tend to buy soundtracks before I see [TS]

00:18:54   movies and sometimes I never get around [TS]

00:18:57   to seeing the movie but i have the [TS]

00:18:58   soundtrack but that was one where i had [TS]

00:19:02   i bought the soundtrack the day it came [TS]

00:19:04   out i downloaded from itunes the day [TS]

00:19:06   came out and then saw the movie when it [TS]

00:19:09   came out on DVD in it and almost didn't [TS]

00:19:11   finish it it it's really terrible and [TS]

00:19:15   the music is about this it's very uneven [TS]

00:19:19   that's sort of you know he goes from [TS]

00:19:21   slapstick to and it just feels like he [TS]

00:19:23   kind of phone do then and the movies [TS]

00:19:25   about like that to dan you were saying [TS]

00:19:27   that you've been listening to the word [TS]

00:19:29   temple of doom soundtrack yeah i just [TS]

00:19:31   had that on this afternoon actually [TS]

00:19:33   well you're to go they released a box [TS]

00:19:35   set of all full of all that was all for [TS]

00:19:37   you know I hate to admit this is worth [TS]

00:19:39   that there's for the leader going on but [TS]

00:19:42   of all ps4 Indiana Jones that come out [TS]

00:19:46   yeah yeah I don't know it had something [TS]

00:19:48   to do with that others Arthur said there [TS]

00:19:50   was a skull and on there i have this box [TS]

00:19:53   that has the scores for all for Indiana [TS]

00:19:55   Jones movies and so I you know had [TS]

00:19:57   ripped them off my computer and I like [TS]

00:19:58   to find that they're really helpful [TS]

00:20:00   working just because there's not there's [TS]

00:20:01   no words or anything so you know you can [TS]

00:20:03   kind of zone out [TS]

00:20:04   have that running in the background and [TS]

00:20:06   so I the Temple of Doom is the one that [TS]

00:20:08   I am beast familiar with because i [TS]

00:20:10   actually already owned copies of raiders [TS]

00:20:12   and last crusade at you know that the [TS]

00:20:14   album versions of those at when before I [TS]

00:20:17   even got the box set [TS]

00:20:19   I like that i was listening temple you [TS]

00:20:21   because I don't know it as well as the [TS]

00:20:22   others and I think you seen that movie [TS]

00:20:24   recently by the way I tell you know I [TS]

00:20:27   I'm not gonna lie i've actually only [TS]

00:20:28   seen it maybe 15 only seen it once I [TS]

00:20:32   it's never had a desire to revisit my [TS]

00:20:34   now wondering if it's as bad as i [TS]

00:20:35   remember honestly the first day I might [TS]

00:20:38   with a very funny experience I had with [TS]

00:20:39   this was that when i was in high school [TS]

00:20:41   we used to do these like movie marathon [TS]

00:20:43   nights for my friends birthday and so [TS]

00:20:45   one times like will do you know we did [TS]

00:20:47   Star Wars last year will do Indiana [TS]

00:20:48   Jones this year and so we watch traders [TS]

00:20:51   and then we put in Temple of Doom and [TS]

00:20:53   watch the first 10 minutes right up to [TS]

00:20:56   the part where they jump out of the [TS]

00:20:57   plane and then they said the rest of [TS]

00:20:58   this movie is no good he started [TS]

00:21:00   everything we went on to Last Crusade i [TS]

00:21:02   did see the first 10 minutes of it again [TS]

00:21:03   on cable and i watched it up until they [TS]

00:21:05   jump out of the plane and and then I [TS]

00:21:07   said alright that's that entire first [TS]

00:21:09   scene is fantastic and actually on the [TS]

00:21:11   soundtrack i really loved the cake [TS]

00:21:13   capture singing the Chinese version of [TS]

00:21:15   anything-goes which is just kind of a [TS]

00:21:18   it's a bizarre little kind of fun [TS]

00:21:21   musical number one of the funniest [TS]

00:21:23   things and in the entire Indiana Jones [TS]

00:21:25   series is that is the moment I love that [TS]

00:21:28   moment where he's standing at the door [TS]

00:21:29   of the plane having finally escaped and [TS]

00:21:31   he shouts nice trial oj and closes the [TS]

00:21:34   door to reveal that he's on a lounge [TS]

00:21:36   chair freight plane i love that it's so [TS]

00:21:39   funny and then there in the plane and [TS]

00:21:41   they jump out and it [TS]

00:21:42   yeah i mean age actually the movie is [TS]

00:21:44   not awful there are some great sequences [TS]

00:21:46   in but it's still a pretty good score [TS]

00:21:48   all things considered I don't think it [TS]

00:21:50   resonates with me quite as much as the [TS]

00:21:52   other two because i love those movies so [TS]

00:21:54   much but i think you know [TS]

00:21:57   say what you will and i know a lot of [TS]

00:21:58   people you know don't necessarily have [TS]

00:22:00   the all-embracing love John Williams [TS]

00:22:03   that i have but i think you know even at [TS]

00:22:06   his worst you know the worst you can say [TS]

00:22:08   about a John Williams score is that it's [TS]

00:22:10   you know constantly professional scorer [TS]

00:22:13   you know it may not be one of his best [TS]

00:22:15   works but at the same time [TS]

00:22:17   I it's john williams and that [TS]

00:22:19   automatically for me put it a cut above [TS]

00:22:21   most most things [TS]

00:22:29   if we had talked about scott pilgrim I [TS]

00:22:32   would have talked about the scott [TS]

00:22:33   pilgrim music was there haha yeah that's [TS]

00:22:35   good music good you [TS]

00:22:36   although let me tell you inception has [TS]

00:22:37   music haha inception has music that beat [TS]

00:22:41   you over the head until you are dead [TS]

00:22:43   did you see that the youtube video about [TS]

00:22:45   it though no this is a kind of all just [TS]

00:22:48   because this is actually gonna talk [TS]

00:22:50   about spoilers for inception but I but [TS]

00:22:51   the music is is who is the composer Hans [TS]

00:22:55   Zimmer oh it's hans zimmer yes and so [TS]

00:22:57   what's fascinating about this that [TS]

00:22:58   somebody notices so you know the sort of [TS]

00:23:00   the main queue for that movie you've got [TS]

00:23:03   the dawn dawn it's sort of like having a [TS]

00:23:07   ponderous background and bring into your [TS]

00:23:10   head turns out that's actually so you [TS]

00:23:14   know in the music they use a in the [TS]

00:23:15   movie they use the there's an Edith Piaf [TS]

00:23:18   song that they used to synchronize I [TS]

00:23:22   don't try to do this I can't wait to a [TS]

00:23:23   spoiler I'm to synchronize the the kick [TS]

00:23:27   yes right if you take the beginning of [TS]

00:23:29   that song and slow it down [TS]

00:23:31   that is what it sounds like and he did [TS]

00:23:34   that kind of on purpose as it's [TS]

00:23:35   fascinating go look at the there's a [TS]

00:23:37   youtube video online somewhere of [TS]

00:23:39   comparing the two and it's actually [TS]

00:23:41   quite clever when you think of it that [TS]

00:23:42   way i know it is kind of a we [TS]

00:23:45   we're not particularly melodious a piece [TS]

00:23:47   of music but I kind of appreciated it [TS]

00:23:50   for that aspect of it i was going to say [TS]

00:23:53   who wrote it for him sing well I [TS]

00:23:58   obviously was that Edith Piaf song just [TS]

00:24:00   slow down right we'll see that's the [TS]

00:24:01   entire score you know it's to our two [TS]

00:24:03   and it's like it's like that justin [TS]

00:24:05   bieber song on twitter that that they [TS]

00:24:08   slow down so it's 18 minutes long and [TS]

00:24:10   suddenly it's a pure moods half an hour [TS]

00:24:12   long and it's great and it's not [TS]

00:24:15   attacked guitar oh it's great it's one [TS]

00:24:17   of the most relaxing things I've heard [TS]

00:24:19   in years [TS]

00:24:21   [Music] [TS]

00:24:32   actually heard the it's the doctor who [TS]

00:24:36   theme slow down to 110 that speed and [TS]

00:24:38   that's great too [TS]

00:24:39   that actually is you can tell where you [TS]

00:24:41   are in the theme but you know it'll take [TS]

00:24:44   45 minutes to get through it [TS]

00:24:45   fantastic [TS]

00:24:49   [Music] [TS]

00:24:59   more music should be played at 17 the [TS]

00:25:02   speed perhaps except from Hans Zimmer [TS]

00:25:05   yeah maybe not so much although I do [TS]

00:25:07   love his idea of his score for the rock [TS]

00:25:10   you love the rock though i do that do [TS]

00:25:12   that might be on my list of terrible [TS]

00:25:13   movies i was gonna say what's your [TS]

00:25:15   suggestion was we should talk about [TS]

00:25:17   movies that other people don't like that [TS]

00:25:18   you like that's not even the worst movie [TS]

00:25:21   that I like that other people hate sure [TS]

00:25:23   I could go all around i think the rock [TS]

00:25:24   was ok but I know there are a lot of [TS]

00:25:26   people who it's it's it's you know i [TS]

00:25:28   will say this it's michael bay's right [TS]

00:25:29   it's michael bay's best work which [TS]

00:25:31   cannot say much but or ok Dan you [TS]

00:25:35   intrigue me with your words that [TS]

00:25:36   suggests that there are other movies [TS]

00:25:37   that you like the people hate anymore [TS]

00:25:40   i'm gonna get castigated for this but [TS]

00:25:42   one of my favorite movies of all of [TS]

00:25:44   possibly of all time is a terrible bruce [TS]

00:25:48   willis vehicle called hudson hawk is up [TS]

00:25:52   is a fan decks significant because it's [TS]

00:25:55   so so bizarre it is a movie that it's [TS]

00:25:58   surreal and kind of you know filled with [TS]

00:26:01   terrible like plays on words and and all [TS]

00:26:06   sorts of like slapstick humor and yet I [TS]

00:26:09   find utterly delightful and it was when [TS]

00:26:13   it came out as i believe it was you know [TS]

00:26:15   roundly panned by are pretty much [TS]

00:26:18   everybody for being like you know Bruce [TS]

00:26:20   Willis trying to basically make his own [TS]

00:26:23   character movie franchise and and sort [TS]

00:26:27   of like it was a vanity piece basically [TS]

00:26:29   but a friend of mine introduced me to it [TS]

00:26:31   either in high school or college and I [TS]

00:26:34   don't know it's just it's so [TS]

00:26:35   over-the-top and so campy that I just [TS]

00:26:39   find it utterly you know delightful to [TS]

00:26:41   watch and and kind of ridiculous eclairs [TS]

00:26:44   it's a no and for those of you not [TS]

00:26:46   familiar with it basically bruce willis [TS]

00:26:49   plays a thief reform thief is so it [TS]

00:26:52   starts with him getting out of prison [TS]

00:26:53   who is then sort of hired by this [TS]

00:26:56   mysterious benefactor to to steal things [TS]

00:27:00   that belong to me in our davinci [TS]

00:27:02   actually sounds plausible but the best [TS]

00:27:05   the best part of this is that so his his [TS]

00:27:08   partner his in crime is played by danny [TS]

00:27:12   aiello [TS]

00:27:12   and they do their robberies by a time [TS]

00:27:16   their robberies synchronizing them by [TS]

00:27:18   singing songs so there's this great [TS]

00:27:22   number where they're robbing uh an [TS]

00:27:24   auction house and singing swinging on a [TS]

00:27:27   star [TS]

00:27:28   dad it's fantastic and so it is so [TS]

00:27:32   strange and entertaining [TS]

00:27:34   I don't know it's that's one of my [TS]

00:27:35   guilty pleasure I saw it for the first [TS]

00:27:37   time this year actually some friend of [TS]

00:27:41   mine said you got to see this now it's [TS]

00:27:43   really not as bad as it is as you've [TS]

00:27:45   heard it wasn't as bad as I've heard [TS]

00:27:48   okay i'll give you that and and that [TS]

00:27:50   particular robbery scene is one that [TS]

00:27:52   kind of sticks in my mind but then you [TS]

00:27:55   got Sandra bernhardt in there you know [TS]

00:27:57   chewing up the scenery and yeah you can [TS]

00:28:00   kind of see why it was really so reviled [TS]

00:28:03   but at yeah it isn't it isn't as bad as [TS]

00:28:07   as it's been made out to be but that [TS]

00:28:09   doesn't make it any good but it's very [TS]

00:28:13   delightful little turns from my favorite [TS]

00:28:15   being james coburn as a his uh his [TS]

00:28:19   character's name but he is it George [TS]

00:28:22   cabin [TS]

00:28:23   yeah it's an homage to North by [TS]

00:28:24   Northwest and the just call yourself a [TS]

00:28:27   fan I just like it slipped my mind and [TS]

00:28:30   all the heat because i have to defend [TS]

00:28:32   this movie with my with my life [TS]

00:28:34   you're out of the hudson hawk fan club [TS]

00:28:36   now what I'm the old any president and [TS]

00:28:38   founder of secretary-treasurer yeah [TS]

00:28:41   you're out anyway so right now there's [TS]

00:28:44   nobody anymore [TS]

00:28:45   who let you in it's my turn off the [TS]

00:28:47   lights yeah it's a it's a it's a fun [TS]

00:28:49   ridiculously terrible me and and you get [TS]

00:28:52   to the end and there's a there's a scene [TS]

00:28:53   which makes it all worthwhile because [TS]

00:28:55   you can basically tell that they they [TS]

00:28:57   know that this movie is is not even [TS]

00:28:59   remotely serious where a character who [TS]

00:29:02   you think is dead after seeing them like [TS]

00:29:05   go off a cliff with like an exploding [TS]

00:29:08   car so you know rides up of course kind [TS]

00:29:10   of city and everything and they're like [TS]

00:29:11   oh my god you're alive like how did you [TS]

00:29:14   get out of the fire and they go [TS]

00:29:16   sprinkler system and they're all like [TS]

00:29:18   that's got to be it you know that it's [TS]

00:29:21   like that [TS]

00:29:22   I love that sort of sheer joyful moment [TS]

00:29:24   of B we don't even believe this [TS]

00:29:26   ourselves but we're having a good time [TS]

00:29:28   wow well dan I might be want to be on my [TS]

00:29:33   story podcast side I don't think I I [TS]

00:29:36   don't I've got the 1i i'm such a are a [TS]

00:29:40   rugged individualist that I actually [TS]

00:29:42   don't know whether people like movies [TS]

00:29:44   that I like nor do i care but i know [TS]

00:29:46   that everybody hates em night Shyamalan [TS]

00:29:48   and really why not [TS]

00:29:51   but not only did I kind of like the [TS]

00:29:52   village but I love unbreakable which i [TS]

00:29:54   think is generally thought to have been [TS]

00:29:56   a failure because it was just follow up [TS]

00:29:58   to the sixties I thought it was [TS]

00:29:59   well-received there but it's kind of a [TS]

00:30:01   cult classic and i'll say that a cult [TS]

00:30:03   classic seaside also want to note I'm [TS]

00:30:05   gonna file that under cult classic [TS]

00:30:07   because I I talk about unbreakable with [TS]

00:30:08   some people in there like ugh you know [TS]

00:30:10   just oh come on [TS]

00:30:12   but I thought it was a great I one of [TS]

00:30:14   the better superhero movies ever to be [TS]

00:30:16   made because it wasn't you don't go in [TS]

00:30:17   understanding that it is a superhero [TS]

00:30:19   movie and it's only later that you [TS]

00:30:21   discover that Bruce Willis there he is [TS]

00:30:23   again is actually poncho man and you [TS]

00:30:26   just didn't even know that poncho purple [TS]

00:30:28   punch oh man was a superhero because he [TS]

00:30:30   wasn't until you saw the movie and i [TS]

00:30:32   realize that i will say that it's a [TS]

00:30:34   fantastic movie let me try another one [TS]

00:30:36   then I didn't think that watchman was [TS]

00:30:38   terrible [TS]

00:30:39   oh I although although that scene in the [TS]

00:30:42   it with the music playing and with uh [TS]

00:30:45   what is it hallelujah which is just [TS]

00:30:47   destroyed that a that music entirely [TS]

00:30:49   where they're having sex in the AL ship [TS]

00:30:51   up in the sky was so terrible and I [TS]

00:30:54   think there's some questionable casting [TS]

00:30:55   decisions but you know I actually [TS]

00:30:57   thought that was not I i I've lived with [TS]

00:31:01   that comic book for a long time and I [TS]

00:31:02   actually thought that that as film [TS]

00:31:04   adaptations of I've imagined go it would [TS]

00:31:06   probably have been it was not not a [TS]

00:31:09   complete disaster i thought that it had [TS]

00:31:11   its heart in the right place and parts [TS]

00:31:13   of it worked pretty well and then other [TS]

00:31:15   yeah they have any should've cast real [TS]

00:31:17   actors instead of pretty on unknown [TS]

00:31:19   people who were they should spend less [TS]

00:31:21   money on some of their green screen work [TS]

00:31:24   and maybe a little more money on alcohol [TS]

00:31:25   though it had to you know I thought that [TS]

00:31:27   was a movie that was flawed but [TS]

00:31:28   ambitious and as a result I think you [TS]

00:31:31   know there's something to be said for [TS]

00:31:32   that [TS]

00:31:33   it also does have a couple [TS]

00:31:34   markable terms I thought out Jackie are [TS]

00:31:37   highly as Rorschach is nicer a fantastic [TS]

00:31:41   and probably the best performance in [TS]

00:31:42   that entirely as opposed to the worst [TS]

00:31:45   performance in the entire movie which is [TS]

00:31:46   it a toss up between melon acre melon [TS]

00:31:49   and who is you can't act her way out of [TS]

00:31:51   a paper bag and matthew goode who is not [TS]

00:31:54   a bad actor but you've hit the two [TS]

00:31:56   biggest but he get in my face probably [TS]

00:31:58   his accent changes like every five [TS]

00:32:00   minutes in that movie and he just looks [TS]

00:32:02   he just can't yell it in English its [TS]

00:32:04   German its American it is English its [TS]

00:32:07   but i agree that it's not it's not an [TS]

00:32:09   awful movie I wouldn't say that I really [TS]

00:32:10   liked it loved it or anything but you [TS]

00:32:12   know I agree that it was kind of a noble [TS]

00:32:14   failure that movie for me that actually [TS]

00:32:16   diminished source material haha because [TS]

00:32:21   I i left that I saw with a friend of [TS]

00:32:23   mine yet you can look at Lori now [TS]

00:32:25   without thinking of mail & Ackerman no [TS]

00:32:27   vacant eyes of man cannot be best [TS]

00:32:30   this is that no it actually 2222 see [TS]

00:32:35   that movie on screen is to understand [TS]

00:32:38   why more thought it couldn't and [TS]

00:32:40   shouldn't have been made into a film [TS]

00:32:42   because the to actually see it play out [TS]

00:32:46   that way is to realize that there are [TS]

00:32:48   some real incoherent aspects of the [TS]

00:32:52   story so it sort of exposes it exposes [TS]

00:32:55   parts of the story that maybe we're [TS]

00:32:57   hidden in the in a comic write it but [TS]

00:32:59   that but there are some real sins in [TS]

00:33:01   that film that the greatest of which is [TS]

00:33:03   to give to mail & Ackerman the most [TS]

00:33:06   important Lyle in the entire book which [TS]

00:33:09   was dr. Manhattan's line at the very end [TS]

00:33:11   hey I remember what John said to me once [TS]

00:33:14   about something that was none related to [TS]

00:33:15   this at all one thing ever never ever [TS]

00:33:17   really over [TS]

00:33:18   no nothing's ever really / you know he [TS]

00:33:20   told me that once haha yeah alright [TS]

00:33:22   that's a no you want to eat i'm hungry [TS]

00:33:25   that's gonna like let's do i'm gonna dye [TS]

00:33:28   my hair and moved to California so yeah [TS]

00:33:30   that yeah it had a lot of loss i said [TS]

00:33:34   for years that the only way that [TS]

00:33:35   watchman should ever be made into [TS]

00:33:37   anything would be a 12-part like HBO [TS]

00:33:41   series miniseries where they could do it [TS]

00:33:44   in the twelve parts and tell these [TS]

00:33:45   individual sort of story chunks with [TS]

00:33:47   those [TS]

00:33:47   endings and the cliffhangers that [TS]

00:33:49   happened at the end of the chapters the [TS]

00:33:51   issues from the comic there is some [TS]

00:33:54   attempt you know the game of thrones by [TS]

00:33:56   george RR martin is being made into an [TS]

00:33:58   HBO series and I I look at that and say [TS]

00:34:01   now that's I think that's how you how [TS]

00:34:03   you have to do it or if you some of the [TS]

00:34:05   band of brothers are the Pacific where [TS]

00:34:07   there's a essentially a big mega [TS]

00:34:08   miniseries I just think that the the [TS]

00:34:11   concept was just going to be too [TS]

00:34:12   expensive for them to do it so they end [TS]

00:34:14   up making this movie instead [TS]

00:34:15   and it's funny when you say that because [TS]

00:34:16   the first thing I thought when you when [TS]

00:34:18   you mentioned watchman is that that is [TS]

00:34:20   my feeling on it's like wow you know [TS]

00:34:21   this movie the best thing I can say [TS]

00:34:23   about this movie is it makes me long for [TS]

00:34:24   the day when they eventually we might [TS]

00:34:26   not as a TV series in the Indian [TS]

00:34:28   depreciated category and throughout kiss [TS]

00:34:30   kiss bang bang [TS]

00:34:31   how is that uh appreciate that's that is [TS]

00:34:33   like one of the best movies like nobody [TS]

00:34:35   even knows that exists right Shane [TS]

00:34:37   Black's uh directed and written and he's [TS]

00:34:40   got a bad reputation right from the sum [TS]

00:34:42   of the didn't you do last action hero or [TS]

00:34:44   something or you did some day he's got a [TS]

00:34:46   bad like personal rep I feel like [TS]

00:34:48   because I think he went through some bad [TS]

00:34:49   stuff in the eighties but he also wrote [TS]

00:34:50   I mean the original lead away which is [TS]

00:34:52   actually a pretty darn good movie but [TS]

00:34:54   that's that's a welcomer and robbins [TS]

00:34:57   junior that's managed on him [TS]

00:34:59   no I haven't and send the cue but it's [TS]

00:35:02   very mellow yeah yeah I we recommended [TS]

00:35:04   race on shocked the country actually [TS]

00:35:06   because I didn't have high expectations [TS]

00:35:08   I i had recommended by somebody in and i [TS]

00:35:10   was i could not believe how good it was [TS]

00:35:12   that was one of the last movie I saw [TS]

00:35:14   multiple times in a movie theater i [TS]

00:35:15   think i actually saw three times because [TS]

00:35:17   i kept dragging other people to it being [TS]

00:35:18   like you got to see this movie and last [TS]

00:35:20   on my list of course spider-man 3 which [TS]

00:35:22   is no I can't even he can't even pretend [TS]

00:35:24   that this terrible funny though because [TS]

00:35:27   you mentioned Sean and I was going to [TS]

00:35:29   say not only do i like the village and [TS]

00:35:30   unbreakable [TS]

00:35:31   I like lady in the water and I'm [TS]

00:35:32   definitely in the minority there I [TS]

00:35:34   didn't although i will say that [TS]

00:35:35   happening is a terrible movie [TS]

00:35:38   I haven't seen it happening that will [TS]

00:35:39   wear my own just don't know it's so bad [TS]

00:35:42   it's a terrible movie I will I will [TS]

00:35:44   argue that shaman is a is an excellent [TS]

00:35:46   an extremely talented filmmaker I mean [TS]

00:35:49   if you look at any of his movies not [TS]

00:35:51   just you know from a writing perspective [TS]

00:35:53   but from the perspective of a you know [TS]

00:35:55   an officer the the films that he put [TS]

00:35:58   together our [TS]

00:35:59   so well they're well shot ya know so [TS]

00:36:02   deliberate yes it's got you know really [TS]

00:36:04   great total consistency for the most [TS]

00:36:07   part he's just an excellent filmmaker [TS]

00:36:09   but you know for whatever reason his [TS]

00:36:11   last couple movies I mean I think it's [TS]

00:36:13   unfortunate because like you said I [TS]

00:36:14   think so much got banged on the name you [TS]

00:36:16   know like after he made his reputation [TS]

00:36:18   with six cents like everybody got to [TS]

00:36:20   expecting a certain type of movie from [TS]

00:36:23   the total and that lucky especially the [TS]

00:36:25   whole like twist ending thing I think [TS]

00:36:27   that unfortunately kinda kinda you know [TS]

00:36:29   not enough foot yeah yeah because like I [TS]

00:36:32   mean and and to be fair six cents [TS]

00:36:33   unbreakable has a great twist ending [TS]

00:36:36   that I you know I will say I did not see [TS]

00:36:37   coming at all yet and that seems still [TS]

00:36:39   gets me every time I last scene where [TS]

00:36:41   it's just like oh my god you know this [TS]

00:36:44   was not a coincidence [TS]

00:36:45   yeah and so I mean I think he he makes [TS]

00:36:47   great films and I think you know I [TS]

00:36:50   certainly don't think we've heard the [TS]

00:36:51   last of him he's got this but I don't [TS]

00:36:54   know he's got this knight chronicles [TS]

00:36:56   thing going which is I guess he's [TS]

00:36:59   producing these films and they're sort [TS]

00:37:01   of based on maybe some of his ideas but [TS]

00:37:04   he's letting other people right and [TS]

00:37:06   directed my first one of these is devil [TS]

00:37:08   which is coming out [TS]

00:37:10   I don't know when it's coming out this [TS]

00:37:12   it's coming out soon yeah i mean i have [TS]

00:37:15   to interject there because i went to see [TS]

00:37:16   went to the movies last week and they [TS]

00:37:19   played the trailer for this right right [TS]

00:37:21   arm [TS]

00:37:22   oh yeah and that the text came up [TS]

00:37:24   because they don't say that he's not [TS]

00:37:25   directing it you tried my internet [TS]

00:37:27   channel and from the mind [TS]

00:37:29   yes and he moves people booed it was [TS]

00:37:31   good yeah it was booed when i was there [TS]

00:37:33   everyone goes OH really you know like [TS]

00:37:36   and and I'm surprised because this was [TS]

00:37:37   not like a Peter where that I feel like [TS]

00:37:39   there's there's a lot of bed often [TS]

00:37:40   happening but man we all my friends and [TS]

00:37:43   our kind of looked at each other like [TS]

00:37:44   holding out we didn't realize that you [TS]

00:37:46   know i mean we know that he's using his [TS]

00:37:48   reputation and credibility has gone [TS]

00:37:50   downhill but that was pretty brutal [TS]

00:37:52   that's too bad i mean he's a he's a guy [TS]

00:37:53   who's right for a comeback if he gets [TS]

00:37:55   there although if you see the online [TS]

00:37:57   there's a parody so that movies about [TS]

00:37:58   like you know a bunch of people get shot [TS]

00:38:00   like stuck in an elevator in a tall [TS]

00:38:01   building and there's like a demon or [TS]

00:38:03   something in there with them I don't [TS]

00:38:04   know Devil's you be heated a parody of [TS]

00:38:06   it [TS]

00:38:07   um [TS]

00:38:08   with people trapped on including himself [TS]

00:38:10   in it of people trapped on an escalator [TS]

00:38:12   which is actually pretty funny so [TS]

00:38:15   there's like a two minute trailer of [TS]

00:38:17   this movie about these three people get [TS]

00:38:18   stuck on an escalator [TS]

00:38:20   ya know canvas career be saved I I think [TS]

00:38:23   he's got the talent so it's gonna give [TS]

00:38:25   him five to ten years to sort of you [TS]

00:38:26   know cool off fine go find himself and I [TS]

00:38:29   think I think you'll see him come back [TS]

00:38:31   with something that that will everybody [TS]

00:38:33   will go [TS]

00:38:33   hey remember I'm not java on that you [TS]

00:38:35   bet you thought he was like dad or [TS]

00:38:37   something out in this movie is good that [TS]

00:38:40   that's that's the hope is us [TS]

00:38:42   occasionally talk about I think he took [TS]

00:38:43   it as a personal affront that [TS]

00:38:44   unbreakable wasn't a hit but he noted [TS]

00:38:47   talking occasionally about about doing a [TS]

00:38:49   sequel which I would love because I love [TS]

00:38:50   the first movie [TS]

00:38:51   yea though I heard last I heard was that [TS]

00:38:53   one of the ideas for this Knight [TS]

00:38:55   Chronicles series was going to be [TS]

00:38:57   somebody doing you know taking the [TS]

00:38:59   idomeni he had taken the idea he had for [TS]

00:39:02   a sequel and turning it into a separate [TS]

00:39:05   unconnected movie cells too well he also [TS]

00:39:07   said he still wants to do the sequel but [TS]

00:39:09   that is idea is one idea for a villain [TS]

00:39:12   that you had briefly thought about [TS]

00:39:14   including in the first movie was going [TS]

00:39:16   to be broken off but he said so because [TS]

00:39:19   i think i saw the same interview I think [TS]

00:39:20   you're talking about and I think he said [TS]

00:39:22   so the unbreakable sequel will be [TS]

00:39:24   something else [TS]

00:39:25   so that's you know that's promising [TS]

00:39:27   maybe they'll be nice i mean like i [TS]

00:39:28   think the big as you said I think he [TS]

00:39:30   took it very personally my cousin who's [TS]

00:39:32   a huge movie aficionado you know will [TS]

00:39:34   always point the scene and Lady of the [TS]

00:39:35   water where that basically involves the [TS]

00:39:38   sort of brutal killing of a film critic [TS]

00:39:40   and say there's something wrong yeah and [TS]

00:39:42   you've got to put that into a movie like [TS]

00:39:44   clearly you know you have some issues [TS]

00:39:46   that you need to work out and I think [TS]

00:39:48   he's probably not wrong about that and [TS]

00:39:50   and I hope that he works through those [TS]

00:39:52   issues because again i do think he's a [TS]

00:39:54   really talented filmmaker yeah I yes [TS]

00:39:56   let's hide that that seem that seam is [TS]

00:39:59   mystifying and terrible and in otherwise [TS]

00:40:03   wonder movie that i really like but you [TS]

00:40:05   know well again it had its faults it's [TS]

00:40:07   it's a it's interesting because it's the [TS]

00:40:11   sort of parable fairytale kind of movie [TS]

00:40:12   all that it was not marketed as such [TS]

00:40:14   which was one of the big reasons I think [TS]

00:40:16   it fly faster but Stardust was better [TS]

00:40:18   start us was I like to start us but I [TS]

00:40:21   don't know there's something about [TS]

00:40:22   leaving the water that it may have just [TS]

00:40:23   been you know the point at which i saw [TS]

00:40:25   or you know what was feeling good that [TS]

00:40:28   day [TS]

00:40:28   yeah i don't know i mean i really i [TS]

00:40:30   thought it was really good and speaking [TS]

00:40:31   of movies with a great score it has a [TS]

00:40:33   fantastic score by James Newton Howard [TS]

00:40:34   who does i think almost all the nice [TS]

00:40:37   John with stuff i think i think it does [TS]

00:40:38   involve yeah i like the young guy like [TS]

00:40:40   the ingredients for yeah that's a great [TS]

00:40:42   scores well he did that he did that too [TS]

00:40:44   i think that they're good they're good [TS]

00:40:46   pair i was thinking that you're talking [TS]

00:40:48   about about Shana I was thinking I [TS]

00:40:50   wonder if I wonder if Robert Rodriguez [TS]

00:40:52   is so entering that period where you [TS]

00:40:57   know some of his material is just a [TS]

00:41:00   little bit too self-indulgent and [TS]

00:41:02   not-so-great he's in his comfort zone [TS]

00:41:06   right because he's just making movies [TS]

00:41:07   for himself down in the down in Austin [TS]

00:41:09   like your eyes in his house [TS]

00:41:11   I i mean i'll say I liked I liked both [TS]

00:41:13   Rodriguez half of a grindhouse and I saw [TS]

00:41:17   machete this past week and actually [TS]

00:41:18   thought it was pretty darn good [TS]

00:41:20   I mean it's set up to do a certain thing [TS]

00:41:22   and I think it really did that pretty I [TS]

00:41:24   am [TS]

00:41:24   no I i actually yeah I liked planet [TS]

00:41:27   terror [TS]

00:41:28   I mean of the two parts by the terror [TS]

00:41:31   was the tighter and less sprawling of [TS]

00:41:34   the two and i did see machete and I and [TS]

00:41:36   I liked it more or less likely said he [TS]

00:41:38   was a little bit little bit long little [TS]

00:41:40   bit episodic but yeah I didn't I enjoyed [TS]

00:41:43   it a great deal and i i i i laughed [TS]

00:41:47   throughout and and i've since i have [TS]

00:41:49   i've read a lot of a lot of the [TS]

00:41:51   criticism of in particular some of the [TS]

00:41:53   political criticism of men and it's kind [TS]

00:41:55   of like a little bit too much but it's [TS]

00:41:59   not bad it could be probably half an [TS]

00:42:02   hour shorter than it is but yeah my [TS]

00:42:04   friend said that cut 10 minutes of [TS]

00:42:06   people talking and replace it with you [TS]

00:42:08   no more killing people can be there [TS]

00:42:10   yeah that's right that's right for a [TS]

00:42:12   movie that started as a joke [TS]

00:42:14   yes oh yeah joke time it fulfilled on [TS]

00:42:17   exactly the movie you wanted to see [TS]

00:42:20   after that trailer which was pretty [TS]

00:42:22   impressive is he and host or is he just [TS]

00:42:24   a wrong guy [TS]

00:42:26   no no easy he's wrong he's an expert on [TS]

00:42:28   ladies who has been left for dead and [TS]

00:42:30   write comebacks comes back with his [TS]

00:42:32   mature for revenge [TS]

00:42:34   right you know what else is something [TS]

00:42:35   you know what else is getting made hobo [TS]

00:42:37   with a shotgun [TS]

00:42:38   yes I heard that with whatever our [TS]

00:42:40   director our looking about a hundred and [TS]

00:42:42   fifty-five years old but and he's not a [TS]

00:42:44   day over a hundred and seventy-five I've [TS]

00:42:46   seen hobos on fire by the Grail road [TS]

00:42:49   gate 5 i've heard the cries of a shotgun [TS]

00:42:53   freaking out that have been in [TS]

00:42:55   identifying release too many times I'm [TS]

00:42:57   to cash in [TS]

00:42:59   I had a conversation with somebody about [TS]

00:43:01   blade runner the other day saying I you [TS]

00:43:03   know maybe for me it's never been one of [TS]

00:43:05   those like you know a lot of people side [TS]

00:43:07   is such a great guy like me I i think [TS]

00:43:10   it's I've enjoyed the one version of it [TS]

00:43:13   that I've seen which was the director's [TS]

00:43:15   cut version so i guess that's the middle [TS]

00:43:17   version the version that was not the [TS]

00:43:18   theatrical release for the voiceover but [TS]

00:43:20   the version that was not the final cut [TS]

00:43:21   that was really later it's like let me [TS]

00:43:23   tell you that's a movie that's been [TS]

00:43:24   released [TS]

00:43:25   way too many times now and and also I i [TS]

00:43:27   really dislike ridley scott from [TS]

00:43:29   meddling in i think you know I'm very [TS]

00:43:31   strong believer that once the movie [TS]

00:43:33   leaves the hands of the filmmaker and [TS]

00:43:34   enters that the audience that basically [TS]

00:43:36   you should shut the hell up as a [TS]

00:43:38   filmmaker I like the idea of saying look [TS]

00:43:40   at that we hit we all hated the [TS]

00:43:42   voiceover let's try it without right but [TS]

00:43:44   i've heard people who say that they [TS]

00:43:45   really like the voice-over version and [TS]

00:43:47   that to them is a pure version because [TS]

00:43:49   it was sort of the original and they [TS]

00:43:50   think that you know there's a there's an [TS]

00:43:52   aspect of the noir hard-boiled more [TS]

00:43:55   detective to it that makes sense [TS]

00:43:57   I've seen the original and the final cut [TS]

00:44:00   of Blade Runner and so one with [TS]

00:44:02   narration and one without [TS]

00:44:04   and what I'll tell you is while I [TS]

00:44:05   appreciated things about them and some [TS]

00:44:08   of the dialogue and and the art [TS]

00:44:09   direction i find both of them sleep [TS]

00:44:13   inducing and in fact both times i [TS]

00:44:15   inflicted this moving on my wife she [TS]

00:44:17   fell asleep [TS]

00:44:18   both times that's a that's a perfect [TS]

00:44:21   batting average of putting my wife to [TS]

00:44:23   sleep and really driving me close to the [TS]

00:44:25   edge of sleep to I if we were talking [TS]

00:44:27   about movies that i think are overrated [TS]

00:44:28   i have to say it I think blade runner's [TS]

00:44:30   is as fascinating as it is or [TS]

00:44:33   psychologically they had I I don't [TS]

00:44:36   really like it based on a book that is [TS]

00:44:38   that is very different from the movie [TS]

00:44:41   yeah very clearly has a very different [TS]

00:44:43   vision from philip k dick original novel [TS]

00:44:46   and I think that's again the [TS]

00:44:47   the reason that I mean I just don't I [TS]

00:44:50   you know really Scott basically came out [TS]

00:44:52   one point said I think you know [TS]

00:44:54   decorative woman you know i won't go [TS]

00:44:56   which way not going to sense come on [TS]

00:44:58   you're not gonna sound this point no no [TS]

00:44:59   I'm not that old he thinks the doctored [TS]

00:45:01   was a replicant right yeah and it's like [TS]

00:45:03   well I mean I you know I respect that as [TS]

00:45:05   his own interpretation but i think that [TS]

00:45:07   you know it's basically again once it's [TS]

00:45:09   out of your hands like you know shut the [TS]

00:45:11   hell up and let the audience like I feel [TS]

00:45:13   because the movie leaves it kind of you [TS]

00:45:15   know ambiguous and well I know the first [TS]

00:45:18   15 years I knew about that movie I [TS]

00:45:21   didn't even give that a serious bit of [TS]

00:45:23   consideration as possibility so I i find [TS]

00:45:25   it ambiguous yeah okay that's very did [TS]

00:45:28   but I mean I think you know I think that [TS]

00:45:30   it should be left up to the audience to [TS]

00:45:32   make their own interpretation that's [TS]

00:45:33   that's my opinion that you know the way [TS]

00:45:36   that the filmmaker should not interfere [TS]

00:45:38   with that right but you know what the [TS]

00:45:40   score holds up pretty well [TS]

00:45:41   see that's part of the reason that I I [TS]

00:45:43   pass out when i try to watch it is that [TS]

00:45:45   there's no Angeles yeah to put me just [TS]

00:45:48   wants me to pull it's actually not it's [TS]

00:45:50   it's actually just his chariots of fire [TS]

00:45:52   theme slowed was gonna say that would be [TS]

00:45:54   awesome be awesome you just remade that [TS]

00:45:56   movie with the chariots of fire theme [TS]

00:45:58   and said no now let's know it 17 species [TS]

00:46:01   into the score listen to the score on [TS]

00:46:03   its own [TS]

00:46:03   let's go to score on sounds trip [TS]

00:46:07   [Music] [TS]

00:46:14   are there any movies that are that are [TS]

00:46:17   on the way or that you've seen recently [TS]

00:46:18   that are coming to video that you would [TS]

00:46:20   like to recommend to our massive [TS]

00:46:21   incomparable movie audience who is [TS]

00:46:23   already shut off their ipods and putting [TS]

00:46:25   them into the sea because this podcast [TS]

00:46:27   has gone on too long [TS]

00:46:28   kickass kick-ass just add on well DVD i [TS]

00:46:31   think it's big enough now for a lot of [TS]

00:46:33   time people here is probably what a [TS]

00:46:34   month six weeks but so you like kick-ass [TS]

00:46:36   with the tablet with a foul mouth little [TS]

00:46:38   girl [TS]

00:46:39   yeah yeah and actually that was the [TS]

00:46:40   thing where I i wasn't really familiar [TS]

00:46:43   with the graphic novel on which it was [TS]

00:46:45   based but um read the graphic novel [TS]

00:46:47   before I saw the movie and so I kind of [TS]

00:46:49   a new kind of what to expect going in [TS]

00:46:51   and it it improved some things on the [TS]

00:46:55   graphic novel and it and it makes some [TS]

00:46:58   compromises but I think for the most [TS]

00:46:59   part of the improvements outweigh the [TS]

00:47:02   deficiencies and I thought it was it was [TS]

00:47:05   really good and kind of looking forward [TS]

00:47:08   to the sequel i will say that i think [TS]

00:47:09   the first two-thirds of it is excellent [TS]

00:47:11   and then I think it kind of last act it [TS]

00:47:13   loses its way a little bit a bit a bit [TS]

00:47:16   but it if it's such a great like parody [TS]

00:47:21   not like parody satire on on the whole [TS]

00:47:24   superhero genre for about the first [TS]

00:47:26   two-thirds three-fourths of it and then [TS]

00:47:28   the last act really turns it into wait [TS]

00:47:30   now you're actually making a superhero [TS]

00:47:32   movie and so you kind of become the [TS]

00:47:34   thing that you're satirizing and I think [TS]

00:47:35   that's where it lost me but i think that [TS]

00:47:36   the first two-thirds of it is really [TS]

00:47:38   really good [TS]

00:47:39   ya know and the actors are great in it [TS]

00:47:42   and you know Nick Cage hams it up [TS]

00:47:45   beautifully and now it's um it's it's [TS]

00:47:49   well worth seeing and I'm gonna watch it [TS]

00:47:52   again on DVD pretty soon but too well [TS]

00:47:55   worth it not worth it all right what [TS]

00:47:56   about you Dan [TS]

00:47:57   I'm sort of flipping through and seeing [TS]

00:47:59   with what's coming out soon because I [TS]

00:48:00   think there were a couple things coming [TS]

00:48:01   out in a in the next month or two that i [TS]

00:48:04   did want to see you want to see that [TS]

00:48:05   movie about the owls that saved the [TS]

00:48:07   magical fairyland that was totally one [TS]

00:48:09   of them how did you know in a way where [TS]

00:48:12   this razor one with chihuahuas [TS]

00:48:14   I I don't share their personal foul [TS]

00:48:18   remotely was with two was in it I think [TS]

00:48:21   the two that I sort of see as I flipping [TS]

00:48:22   through what's coming out is there's a [TS]

00:48:25   movie coming out called [TS]

00:48:27   hold up buried with ryan right yeah yeah [TS]

00:48:30   which has a it's basically about a guy [TS]

00:48:33   who gets you know sort of the divers [TS]

00:48:34   like a military contractor and iran iraq [TS]

00:48:36   i think it's like kidnapped and buried [TS]

00:48:38   basically in a coffin and it's got this [TS]

00:48:40   fascinating [TS]

00:48:41   it's got some great trailers to you know [TS]

00:48:43   very atmospheric there's an aspect of it [TS]

00:48:46   that you know they've been really [TS]

00:48:47   playing up in a lot of the posters and [TS]

00:48:49   and trailers almost AAA saul bass sort [TS]

00:48:53   of like ethic design ethic that reminds [TS]

00:48:55   you of like the old Hitchcock openings [TS]

00:48:57   and I think there is something sort of i [TS]

00:48:59   like to be I love those movies that are [TS]

00:49:01   based on those really really constrained [TS]

00:49:03   sets i think of I think again of his [TS]

00:49:06   cock movies like a rope and lifeboat [TS]

00:49:09   where it's really confined into ace a a [TS]

00:49:12   single location and it and i think [TS]

00:49:14   especially for a movie that is this is [TS]

00:49:16   clearly a little really claustrophobic [TS]

00:49:19   I think that that that's a really [TS]

00:49:20   interesting idea so I have no idea if [TS]

00:49:22   it's good or not but it said it strikes [TS]

00:49:25   me as something that's that's different [TS]

00:49:26   and unique and I don't know if Reynolds [TS]

00:49:29   has what it takes to pull it off but i [TS]

00:49:32   think that's I would certainly be [TS]

00:49:34   interested finding out and then the [TS]

00:49:36   other thing i think i was really [TS]

00:49:37   interested in seeing was actually the [TS]

00:49:39   social network because i think i really [TS]

00:49:41   like David Fincher I think he's a he's a [TS]

00:49:43   very talented director and it strikes [TS]

00:49:46   and I like the guy who they get slightly [TS]

00:49:48   to jesse eisenberg who last year was in [TS]

00:49:50   zombieland and did a fantastic job in [TS]

00:49:52   that movie and if you ever want to see [TS]

00:49:55   him in another really good roll movie [TS]

00:49:57   called rodger dodger that he did many [TS]

00:49:58   years ago with Campbell Scott is also [TS]

00:50:00   really good and so those are converted [TS]

00:50:02   the interesting intersection of that [TS]

00:50:05   along with this story of I don't know is [TS]

00:50:07   the story of facebook is really that [TS]

00:50:08   interesting but the idea that you know [TS]

00:50:11   it interested both venture and aaron [TS]

00:50:13   sorkin who wrote the screenplay enough [TS]

00:50:15   to make a movie out of it suggests to me [TS]

00:50:16   that there is there something there [TS]

00:50:18   news broke this week or or maybe last [TS]

00:50:28   week as you're listening to this dear [TS]

00:50:30   listener for that a deal has been cut [TS]

00:50:33   between Stephen King yes soul and Brian [TS]

00:50:38   Grazer and Ron Howard and they are going [TS]

00:50:40   to make the dark tower not as a movie [TS]

00:50:43   and not as a TV series but as a movie [TS]

00:50:46   and a TV series in another movie and [TS]

00:50:49   another season of a TV series and [TS]

00:50:51   another movie this is this is the most [TS]

00:50:54   ambitious thing I've heard since the [TS]

00:50:55   week before when they announced that [TS]

00:50:57   they were going to turn Sandman into a [TS]

00:50:58   TV show and then we'll save that for [TS]

00:51:01   another podcast yeah we'll save that for [TS]

00:51:03   another podcast but still i love the [TS]

00:51:05   dark tower and and I you know if it's [TS]

00:51:09   going to be done then I agree that it [TS]

00:51:11   needs to be done in a suitably sprawling [TS]

00:51:13   epic fashion and honestly I could spend [TS]

00:51:15   an entire podcast talking about the dark [TS]

00:51:16   tower but not this but not this one but [TS]

00:51:19   you know a separate separate the road I [TS]

00:51:22   I just in some ways even with the you [TS]

00:51:24   know people like Ron Howard you know [TS]

00:51:26   names like that behind it [TS]

00:51:28   part of me wonders if this will ever get [TS]

00:51:29   done just because it's so ambitious [TS]

00:51:32   yeah and and there's a lot of talk about [TS]

00:51:34   it and and previously in fact the the [TS]

00:51:36   rights were held by JJ Abrams and garlic [TS]

00:51:41   you say yeah and so they couldn't figure [TS]

00:51:43   out how to get a handle on it and after [TS]

00:51:45   several years and so you know i think [TS]

00:51:48   Howard's you know Ron Howard is a you [TS]

00:51:51   know has made some good movies in the [TS]

00:51:52   past but he's also you know turned out a [TS]

00:51:53   lot of really really bland studio [TS]

00:51:56   pictures in recent years and so it's [TS]

00:51:58   it's a weird pairing from that regard to [TS]

00:52:01   see him involved in that and akiva [TS]

00:52:03   goldsman who is the writer has quite a [TS]

00:52:07   spotty resume in space [TS]

00:52:11   I believe those who wrote the Batman and [TS]

00:52:14   Robin Thicke get lost in space Batman [TS]

00:52:16   and Robin but also beautiful mind a [TS]

00:52:19   beautiful mind and actually is already [TS]

00:52:21   gun parts of French yeah actually [TS]

00:52:23   brought some so up and down up and down [TS]

00:52:26   yeah but interesting I I think it's a [TS]

00:52:28   great idea and the idea that they would [TS]

00:52:29   cast they were [TS]

00:52:31   cast the people and they would be in the [TS]

00:52:33   movies and TV shows and they would shoot [TS]

00:52:35   it I presumably in advance my guess is [TS]

00:52:37   to the TV series would be one of these [TS]

00:52:38   13-episode jobs and not like a full [TS]

00:52:41   sprawling 22-episode kind of thing and [TS]

00:52:43   that they would shoot in an extended [TS]

00:52:45   period of time they would shoot a movie [TS]

00:52:47   and some episodes and then another film [TS]

00:52:49   with the same crew and cast which is I [TS]

00:52:52   think never been done so and yeah any [TS]

00:52:55   obviously that would be a lot for an [TS]

00:52:56   actor to to commit to so I find it in [TS]

00:52:58   i'm gonna find it really interesting to [TS]

00:53:00   see what they get for that i read an [TS]

00:53:01   interview with Stephen King today asking [TS]

00:53:03   him about it and asking him one of the [TS]

00:53:06   questions they asked him was well how do [TS]

00:53:07   you feel about this on you know NBC as [TS]

00:53:10   opposed to something like HBO because [TS]

00:53:11   this is you know the dark tower is a [TS]

00:53:13   pretty grim at times violent and brutal [TS]

00:53:17   a piece of work and you know can you do [TS]

00:53:21   that justice on on broadcast television [TS]

00:53:23   as opposed to on you know what something [TS]

00:53:24   like HBO and he said well you know every [TS]

00:53:27   time I i feel like i've worked on in an [TS]

00:53:29   environment like that which is [TS]

00:53:30   constrained me a little bit really [TS]

00:53:32   challenges me to find a creative [TS]

00:53:33   solution and so I think he seemed sort [TS]

00:53:36   of intrigued in the challenges that that [TS]

00:53:38   would raise me i'm on a little more [TS]

00:53:40   skeptical maybe of how that's going to [TS]

00:53:43   pan out but I i think it will it will [TS]

00:53:45   certainly be interesting to see all [TS]

00:53:47   right I predict we'll all be mummies by [TS]

00:53:49   the time comes yeah that's that's right [TS]

00:53:52   but the good news ben is that mummy [TS]

00:53:55   vision will launch by then and we'll be [TS]

00:53:57   able to see it in our tombs in our [TS]

00:53:59   sarcophagi well you know that you have [TS]

00:54:01   to put on the 3d wrap around your head [TS]

00:54:03   see it in full 3d in my vision [TS]

00:54:06   alright well I think that we've done [TS]

00:54:08   enough damage for one day until the next [TS]

00:54:10   installment of the uncomfortable podcast [TS]

00:54:12   i want to thank my guess [TS]

00:54:14   dan born thank you you're welcome that [TS]

00:54:18   wait that doesn't make any sense and ben [TS]

00:54:20   boychuk thanks for having me thank you [TS]

00:54:22   very much [TS]

00:54:23   this is jason smell thanks for listening [TS]

00:54:25   to the incomparable see you next time [TS]

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