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00:00:00   it's September 2010 this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/0">TS</a>]

00:00:05   incomparable podcast we're back on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/5">TS</a>]

00:00:09   incomparable podcast the topic today is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/9">TS</a>]

00:00:11   movies it's free form because we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/11">TS</a>]

00:00:13   lots of really grand designs big plans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/13">TS</a>]

00:00:16   and pants to match and they they failed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/16">TS</a>]

00:00:19   miserably so instead that it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/19">TS</a>]

00:00:22   potpourri category of the uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/22">TS</a>]

00:00:24   i'm jason l joining me today on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/24">TS</a>]

00:00:27   podcast we have from the wilds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/27">TS</a>]

00:00:29   Massachusetts and more'n I'd and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/29">TS</a>]

00:00:32   nice to be back it seems like it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/32">TS</a>]

00:00:34   so long since the last time i was on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/34">TS</a>]

00:00:36   podcast you're like on the podcast every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/36">TS</a>]

00:00:37   week now what's that about you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/37">TS</a>]

00:00:39   almost everyday really use that your for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/39">TS</a>]

00:00:42   tool hehe podcast guy I got it all and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/42">TS</a>]

00:00:45   joining me from the wilds of Southern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/45">TS</a>]

00:00:47   California is ben boychuk hi Ben [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/47">TS</a>]

00:00:49   hello my fine feathered friends there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/49">TS</a>]

00:00:52   are no feathers here this is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/52">TS</a>]

00:00:54   feathery podcast that's a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/54">TS</a>]

00:00:56   podcast oh darn I think I supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/56">TS</a>]

00:00:57   on a different call up so movies movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/57">TS</a>]

00:01:00   at the topic and I know you guys are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/60">TS</a>]

00:01:02   movie lovers i would actually thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/62">TS</a>]

00:01:04   would start by bringing up the topic of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/64">TS</a>]

00:01:06   movie music because that's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/66">TS</a>]

00:01:08   double bonus of geekiness and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/68">TS</a>]

00:01:11   particular i was going to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/71">TS</a>]

00:01:12   since this is the incomparable podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/72">TS</a>]

00:01:14   music in genre movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/74">TS</a>]

00:01:16   Ben and I have had a running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/76">TS</a>]

00:01:18   conversation about the star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/78">TS</a>]

00:01:19   soundtracks that is exactly what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/79">TS</a>]

00:01:22   just thinking when you said that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/82">TS</a>]

00:01:23   i have i have opinions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/83">TS</a>]

00:01:24   yeah that's that's good and then my no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/84">TS</a>]

00:01:26   Daniel a big john williams fan and a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/86">TS</a>]

00:01:29   star wars and indiana jones fan as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/89">TS</a>]

00:01:30   so we can talk john williams who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/90">TS</a>]

00:01:32   never scored a star trek movie by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/92">TS</a>]

00:01:35   way he has not but he has scored many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/95">TS</a>]

00:01:36   other large franchises and parts of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/96">TS</a>]

00:01:39   was like the star wars and indiana jones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/99">TS</a>]

00:01:42   and he did the first 3i believe Harry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/102">TS</a>]

00:01:44   Potter movies at least the first two I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/104">TS</a>]

00:01:46   think I think he did the third one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/106">TS</a>]

00:01:48   well I think that was the last one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/108">TS</a>]

00:01:49   he did was did he do that or did they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/109">TS</a>]

00:01:51   just sort of play cues from the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/111">TS</a>]

00:01:53   movies starting and starting in four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/113">TS</a>]

00:01:54   they actually play cues from like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/114">TS</a>]

00:01:56   you know it's other composers using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/116">TS</a>]

00:01:58   themes that he established in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/118">TS</a>]

00:02:00   three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/120">TS</a>]

00:02:00   nice nice sorry motif session say if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/120">TS</a>]

00:02:03   want to sound all sophisticated so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/123">TS</a>]

00:02:06   this discussion of composers where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/126">TS</a>]

00:02:08   guys are probably more much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/128">TS</a>]

00:02:09   well-versed in i am going to i'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/129">TS</a>]

00:02:10   throw out the first name here which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/130">TS</a>]

00:02:12   michael giacchino who is an excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/132">TS</a>]

00:02:15   composer not only of the latest Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/135">TS</a>]

00:02:19   Trek movie the JJ Abrams Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/139">TS</a>]

00:02:20   reboot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/140">TS</a>]

00:02:21   lots of the recent pics ours which are I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/141">TS</a>]

00:02:24   think excellent the incredibles is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/144">TS</a>]

00:02:25   great score up as a very good score [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/145">TS</a>]

00:02:28   he scored ratatouille to did yes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/148">TS</a>]

00:02:30   also scored lost which i think is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/150">TS</a>]

00:02:33   the best scored TV shows of all time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/153">TS</a>]

00:02:35   it's interesting because the the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/155">TS</a>]

00:02:37   on lost is very subtle righty like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/157">TS</a>]

00:02:39   almost don't notice that they're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/159">TS</a>]

00:02:40   is except one goes yeah I mean it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/160">TS</a>]

00:02:43   it's very weird show in that regard that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/163">TS</a>]

00:02:45   was my jakey no there there yes because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/165">TS</a>]

00:02:48   it they only use it very sparsely and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/168">TS</a>]

00:02:51   it's very subtle when it comes up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/171">TS</a>]

00:02:53   you don't always think about it i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/173">TS</a>]

00:02:54   that's that's good like because of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/174">TS</a>]

00:02:56   show it would be very easy for it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/176">TS</a>]

00:02:59   distracting or overwhelming or take you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/179">TS</a>]

00:03:01   out of the moment but if they do such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/181">TS</a>]

00:03:04   he does such a great job thereof of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/184">TS</a>]

00:03:06   reinforcing the feelings that you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/186">TS</a>]

00:03:08   to experience the sort of the mystery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/188">TS</a>]

00:03:10   the suspense aspects of it and yet there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/190">TS</a>]

00:03:12   are those moments where it comes to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/192">TS</a>]

00:03:13   fore and sometimes I i guess this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/193">TS</a>]

00:03:15   would be a good question to ask you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/195">TS</a>]

00:03:17   in general that scores mostly for films [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/197">TS</a>]

00:03:19   because you don't usually talk about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/199">TS</a>]

00:03:20   although we could talk about it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/200">TS</a>]

00:03:21   lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/201">TS</a>]

00:03:22   do you notice the music in the film and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/202">TS</a>]

00:03:23   think oh wow that's a really nice piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/203">TS</a>]

00:03:25   of music or do you say well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/205">TS</a>]

00:03:27   you're not really doing your job if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/207">TS</a>]

00:03:28   noticing the music and not what's on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/208">TS</a>]

00:03:30   screen because there are some moments in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/210">TS</a>]

00:03:32   Los where I actually felt like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/212">TS</a>]

00:03:33   night and i liked it i didn't dislike it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/213">TS</a>]

00:03:36   that when they launched the the raft at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/216">TS</a>]

00:03:37   the end of the first season in there yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/217">TS</a>]

00:03:39   incredibly uplifting score and i felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/219">TS</a>]

00:03:41   myself thinking wow this is great music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/221">TS</a>]

00:03:44   for what's going on it took me out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/224">TS</a>]

00:03:46   the moment maybe a little bit but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/226">TS</a>]

00:03:47   didn't care because it was such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/227">TS</a>]

00:03:48   beautiful piece of work so is that valid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/228">TS</a>]

00:03:50   to appreciate the music while you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/230">TS</a>]

00:03:52   watching something or is that a failing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/232">TS</a>]

00:03:53   of either the music or the movie i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/233">TS</a>]

00:03:55   so i know i think so i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/235">TS</a>]

00:03:57   it's at its best score can be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/237">TS</a>]

00:04:01   another character in the film or can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/241">TS</a>]

00:04:03   really really compliments the film in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/243">TS</a>]

00:04:05   that was some of the most memorable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/245">TS</a>]

00:04:06   films you'll see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/246">TS</a>]

00:04:09   you often associate with music I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/249">TS</a>]

00:04:12   you could think of course of Star Wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/252">TS</a>]

00:04:13   and and the inner Indiana Jones movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/253">TS</a>]

00:04:16   and I think I think certainly the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/256">TS</a>]

00:04:18   star trek film with the cheeky no star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/258">TS</a>]

00:04:21   trek is another great example of that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/261">TS</a>]

00:04:23   mean that was a I read an article not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/263">TS</a>]

00:04:26   too long ago about how he approached it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/266">TS</a>]

00:04:29   and and he had said chiquinho did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/269">TS</a>]

00:04:32   he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/272">TS</a>]

00:04:34   little bit overwhelmed because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/274">TS</a>]

00:04:35   there's a there's a great tradition of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/275">TS</a>]

00:04:36   jerry goldsmith did all you know of some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/276">TS</a>]

00:04:39   of the original scores and then james [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/279">TS</a>]

00:04:42   horner did two very very good scores for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/282">TS</a>]

00:04:44   four star trek to and star trek 3 and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/284">TS</a>]

00:04:47   he had that you know very much on his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/287">TS</a>]

00:04:49   mind and he was sort of struggling with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/289">TS</a>]

00:04:51   it and then sat down with Abraham's JJ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/291">TS</a>]

00:04:54   Abrams and and they talked about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/294">TS</a>]

00:04:55   they decided that this this movie was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/295">TS</a>]

00:04:57   going to be a departure from that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/297">TS</a>]

00:05:00   that he should really approach it not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/300">TS</a>]

00:05:02   a space adventure film but as a film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/302">TS</a>]

00:05:06   about friends about these these friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/306">TS</a>]

00:05:10   who would become lifelong friends and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/310">TS</a>]

00:05:12   how they got together and so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/312">TS</a>]

00:05:15   know that that necessarily comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/315">TS</a>]

00:05:18   when you see the movie but if you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/318">TS</a>]

00:05:19   about it knowing that and you listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/319">TS</a>]

00:05:22   it again you you get some of that some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/322">TS</a>]

00:05:25   of that pathos and some of that high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/325">TS</a>]

00:05:27   adventure stuff and I think it works i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/327">TS</a>]

00:05:29   think it works very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/329">TS</a>]

00:05:30   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/330">TS</a>]

00:05:51   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/351">TS</a>]

00:05:54   yeah i like to I like GQ school actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/354">TS</a>]

00:05:57   pop this the new star trek score [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/357">TS</a>]

00:06:00   oh not too long ago and I like it though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/360">TS</a>]

00:06:03   I think that the soundtrack via the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/363">TS</a>]

00:06:04   album version that i bought which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/364">TS</a>]

00:06:06   bought from itunes felt very disjointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/366">TS</a>]

00:06:08   to me and that's difficult i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/368">TS</a>]

00:06:11   think soundtrack albums or score albums [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/371">TS</a>]

00:06:12   have really have a have a problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/372">TS</a>]

00:06:14   that sometimes in that they get sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/374">TS</a>]

00:06:16   chopped up and the ques aren't always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/376">TS</a>]

00:06:19   exactly the same as they are in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/379">TS</a>]

00:06:22   movie because in the movie they're also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/382">TS</a>]

00:06:23   edited to fit various seen lengths and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/383">TS</a>]

00:06:25   stuff like that and so I found that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/385">TS</a>]

00:06:27   star trek album to have a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/387">TS</a>]

00:06:29   outstanding tracks on it but at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/389">TS</a>]

00:06:32   time to feel very disjointed for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/392">TS</a>]

00:06:36   you know the use of some of the central [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/396">TS</a>]

00:06:38   themes which I remember very vividly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/398">TS</a>]

00:06:41   from the movie because they really stood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/401">TS</a>]

00:06:42   out for me seem to only come up a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/402">TS</a>]

00:06:44   times in the kate in the course of Billy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/404">TS</a>]

00:06:47   entire album array whereas I felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/407">TS</a>]

00:06:49   they happened more in the movie and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/409">TS</a>]

00:06:51   right you know a little business on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/411">TS</a>]

00:06:52   where we're going is so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/412">TS</a>]

00:06:54   affecting in the movie and and effective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/414">TS</a>]

00:06:56   and it on the soundtrack you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/416">TS</a>]

00:06:59   almost missed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/419">TS</a>]

00:06:59   I I kept saying oh yeah that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/419">TS</a>]

00:07:01   spot game and we'll never hear there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/421">TS</a>]

00:07:02   a there is a deluxe version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/422">TS</a>]

00:07:05   soundtrack it came out words and it went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/425">TS</a>]

00:07:08   out of friend after about five minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/428">TS</a>]

00:07:09   because they only pressed 5000 copies of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/429">TS</a>]

00:07:12   it but I got one and it's it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/432">TS</a>]

00:07:16   complete score in order of appearance in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/436">TS</a>]

00:07:19   the film and it's awake i agree with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/439">TS</a>]

00:07:22   completely that the standard album [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/442">TS</a>]

00:07:24   version is kind of a disappointment in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26   that respect the deluxe version is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/446">TS</a>]

00:07:28   and if you can get help get ahold of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/448">TS</a>]

00:07:30   more power to you I'm going to look on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/450">TS</a>]

00:07:32   amazon right now okay you might be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/452">TS</a>]

00:07:35   to anyway yeah you might have to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/455">TS</a>]

00:07:36   ebay for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/456">TS</a>]

00:07:37   alright well that's good i'm glad to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/457">TS</a>]

00:07:39   know that something like that exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/459">TS</a>]

00:07:40   because i find that that's a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/460">TS</a>]

00:07:42   problem i mean like movies were talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/462">TS</a>]

00:07:44   you know movies that are a couple hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/464">TS</a>]

00:07:45   long and you know a soundtrack that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/465">TS</a>]

00:07:48   hour short you know that they might sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/468">TS</a>]

00:07:50   of hit the high notes as it were for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/470">TS</a>]

00:07:52   pardon the expression but the I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/472">TS</a>]

00:07:54   feel like there's so much missing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/474">TS</a>]

00:07:57   it's it's great when you can get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59   larger version of the you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/479">TS</a>]

00:08:02   contains the entire score i had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/482">TS</a>]

00:08:04   issue and i will bring up a score that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/484">TS</a>]

00:08:06   really like oranges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/486">TS</a>]

00:08:07   serve as an aside was for a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/487">TS</a>]

00:08:10   movie is the Phantom Menace core which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/490">TS</a>]

00:08:11   is actually a very good score on CD yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/491">TS</a>]

00:08:14   that's a great sports it's sort of john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/494">TS</a>]

00:08:16   williams getting to revisit that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/496">TS</a>]

00:08:18   language that he he hadn't spoken in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/498">TS</a>]

00:08:21   years and it was really nice really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/501">TS</a>]

00:08:23   more to the point there's a double CD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/503">TS</a>]

00:08:25   edition of back that is vastly superior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/505">TS</a>]

00:08:27   to the single the mission just but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/507">TS</a>]

00:08:29   terrible movie but a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/509">TS</a>]

00:08:34   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/514">TS</a>]

00:08:54   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56   speaking of great scores for for bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/536">TS</a>]

00:09:00   films i mean our star trek is concerned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/540">TS</a>]

00:09:03   there is a deluxe edition of the star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/543">TS</a>]

00:09:05   trek 3 soundtrack that just came out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/545">TS</a>]

00:09:08   couple months ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/548">TS</a>]

00:09:09   terrible movie but it's a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/549">TS</a>]

00:09:11   score and in some i add in some ways I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/551">TS</a>]

00:09:14   think it maybe even a little bit better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/554">TS</a>]

00:09:15   than Star Trek to because both of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/555">TS</a>]

00:09:18   were composed by james horner in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/558">TS</a>]

00:09:21   early part of his career before he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/561">TS</a>]

00:09:22   started repeating himself and and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/562">TS</a>]

00:09:26   there's some notice some really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/566">TS</a>]

00:09:28   nice stuff on there and the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/568">TS</a>]

00:09:30   between Star Trek to start 3 at least as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/570">TS</a>]

00:09:32   far as the soundtrack goes is I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/572">TS</a>]

00:09:34   order had a larger orchestra to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/574">TS</a>]

00:09:36   with 43 than he did with two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/576">TS</a>]

00:09:40   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/580">TS</a>]

00:09:50   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/590">TS</a>]

00:09:57   you get the sense from the liner notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59   of the special edition of the star 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/599">TS</a>]

00:10:02   soundtrack that corner was sort of hired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/602">TS</a>]

00:10:04   because he was young and she and didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/604">TS</a>]

00:10:06   give him anything to do there and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/606">TS</a>]

00:10:07   with the third one there like all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/607">TS</a>]

00:10:09   kid you proved yourself here have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/609">TS</a>]

00:10:10   orchestra right and it and it shows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/610">TS</a>]

00:10:13   in particular the queue where they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/613">TS</a>]

00:10:16   stealing the enterprise from oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/616">TS</a>]

00:10:18   that that's a great great q and so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/618">TS</a>]

00:10:21   alone was was worth buying the deluxe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/621">TS</a>]

00:10:24   edition for since the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/624">TS</a>]

00:10:25   soundtrack disc is long out of print but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/625">TS</a>]

00:10:29   the the deluxe edition just came out I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/629">TS</a>]

00:10:30   think it's still available i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/630">TS</a>]

00:10:32   reasonably priced wow I had both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/632">TS</a>]

00:10:34   those on tape on connecticut back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36   day but but search or three not terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/636">TS</a>]

00:10:39   by the way I think it's mediocre but I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/639">TS</a>]

00:10:41   don't think it was a terrible start to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/641">TS</a>]

00:10:42   fly and which actually had Jerry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/642">TS</a>]

00:10:44   Goldsmith revisiting his Star Trek the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/644">TS</a>]

00:10:47   motion picture score now that's bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/647">TS</a>]

00:10:50   now let me tell you that the Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/650">TS</a>]

00:10:51   the motion picture score i maintain is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/651">TS</a>]

00:10:53   an awesome score and I have the two-disc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/653">TS</a>]

00:10:56   set of that came out a couple several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/656">TS</a>]

00:10:58   years ago now and I think that and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/658">TS</a>]

00:11:02   recently ripped it to my it to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/662">TS</a>]

00:11:03   computer since i rarely play CDs anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/663">TS</a>]

00:11:05   and i just love that I mean not only for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/665">TS</a>]

00:11:08   the fact that goldsmith created the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/668">TS</a>]

00:11:10   theme that would then go on to be used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/670">TS</a>]

00:11:12   as the theme for the next generation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14   even fact I think goldsmith version in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16   the motion picture is slightly different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/676">TS</a>]

00:11:18   and superior i would argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/678">TS</a>]

00:11:19   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/679">TS</a>]

00:11:36   but the whole sort of experimental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/696">TS</a>]

00:11:39   aspects with the electronic aspects and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/699">TS</a>]

00:11:42   you know dealing with the soundtrack for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/702">TS</a>]

00:11:44   feature and all of the the sort of wacky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/704">TS</a>]

00:11:47   parts i love i think it's great i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/707">TS</a>]

00:11:49   it is a fantastic score so i can't speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/709">TS</a>]

00:11:51   highly enough of that score though again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/711">TS</a>]

00:11:53   the movie itself is weird and kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/713">TS</a>]

00:11:57   mediocre yeah yeah that's the movie that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/717">TS</a>]

00:12:00   really needed an editor at like one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/720">TS</a>]

00:12:03   then they released the special edition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/723">TS</a>]

00:12:04   and it might want two minutes more high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/724">TS</a>]

00:12:06   bias [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/726">TS</a>]

00:12:07   oh yeah yeah but the beauty of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/727">TS</a>]

00:12:09   flyby shots is that the music is quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/729">TS</a>]

00:12:12   quite points for entertaining and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/732">TS</a>]

00:12:14   been trying to on your recommendation i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/734">TS</a>]

00:12:16   do not actually own a copy of the star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/736">TS</a>]

00:12:18   trek to score which I keep trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/738">TS</a>]

00:12:20   find but it's not available anywhere as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/740">TS</a>]

00:12:21   a electronic download right it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/741">TS</a>]

00:12:23   the silver screen music CD the last CD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/743">TS</a>]

00:12:26   that's the only CD I bought in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/746">TS</a>]

00:12:27   three years is that is that because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/747">TS</a>]

00:12:29   was only available on CD is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/749">TS</a>]

00:12:31   frustrating i hate it when that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/751">TS</a>]

00:12:32   but I thought I always thought was funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/752">TS</a>]

00:12:34   because you mentioned that the tape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/754">TS</a>]

00:12:35   score and i remember that when i was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/755">TS</a>]

00:12:37   high school my friend Evan had a the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/757">TS</a>]

00:12:40   tape of the star trek motion picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/760">TS</a>]

00:12:42   score and I borrowed that from him for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/762">TS</a>]

00:12:44   really long time and I think I even dug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/764">TS</a>]

00:12:46   my own copy of it at one point onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/766">TS</a>]

00:12:48   cassette tape because i loved it someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/768">TS</a>]

00:12:50   here's a little-known fact and actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/770">TS</a>]

00:12:51   I don't know if been even knows this i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/771">TS</a>]

00:12:53   was disappointed when they did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/773">TS</a>]

00:12:55   complete star trek to CD though that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/775">TS</a>]

00:12:58   it's missing a track that was on my tape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/778">TS</a>]

00:13:00   what's really on at the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/780">TS</a>]

00:13:02   second side of the cassette of the star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/782">TS</a>]

00:13:04   trek to soundtrack boy were deep in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06   weeds aren't we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/786">TS</a>]

00:13:07   it you know how on cassette tapes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/787">TS</a>]

00:13:09   records at the time but especially tapes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/789">TS</a>]

00:13:11   you have side one inside too and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/791">TS</a>]

00:13:13   would be not quite the same length and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/793">TS</a>]

00:13:15   you end up with like a big gap anh anh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/795">TS</a>]

00:13:16   at the end of the tape that you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/796">TS</a>]

00:13:18   fast-forward through if you have it over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/798">TS</a>]

00:13:19   and listen again after about I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/799">TS</a>]

00:13:21   several minutes of silence at the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/801">TS</a>]

00:13:24   the star 2 soundtrack there's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/804">TS</a>]

00:13:25   three minute track that is like a pop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/805">TS</a>]

00:13:28   remix of the theme of star trek to with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/808">TS</a>]

00:13:31   drum machines and it's like up it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/811">TS</a>]

00:13:34   don't know where it came from i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/814">TS</a>]

00:13:35   know who did it but my friends and I in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/815">TS</a>]

00:13:38   high school thought it was really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/818">TS</a>]

00:13:40   and we like a friend of mine made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42   montage of the best scenes of star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/822">TS</a>]

00:13:44   to and and dubbed it over that that pop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/824">TS</a>]

00:13:48   remix thing how is that not made it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/828">TS</a>]

00:13:50   youtube as well i don't think i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/830">TS</a>]

00:13:52   copy of it anymore but but um uh or it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/832">TS</a>]

00:13:56   would be on YouTube now but I it's funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/836">TS</a>]

00:13:58   and I so hoping somebody would explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00   the liner notes of what the heck that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/840">TS</a>]

00:14:01   was even was because I don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/841">TS</a>]

00:14:03   if it appeared on the record but I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/843">TS</a>]

00:14:04   that it was hidden away with a secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/844">TS</a>]

00:14:06   bonus track on the tape of star trek to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/846">TS</a>]

00:14:08   suit maybe james horner knows maybe he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/848">TS</a>]

00:14:10   doesn't ever want that to be heard again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/850">TS</a>]

00:14:13   yes I don't know ok let's talk Jackie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/853">TS</a>]

00:14:15   know for one more minute though I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/855">TS</a>]

00:14:16   wanted to i'm curious what you think his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/856">TS</a>]

00:14:19   best work is because he's done a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/859">TS</a>]

00:14:21   different film work now with Pixar with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/861">TS</a>]

00:14:23   with Star Trek and and on on TV with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/863">TS</a>]

00:14:26   lost any any opinions about that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/866">TS</a>]

00:14:29   I think incredible is the one that kills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/869">TS</a>]

00:14:31   me because that's like I know perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/871">TS</a>]

00:14:33   i'm john barry askah James Bond score [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/873">TS</a>]

00:14:37   with the brass and I i love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/877">TS</a>]

00:14:39   incredibles I don't own a lot of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/879">TS</a>]

00:14:41   albums but i will say that from you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/881">TS</a>]

00:14:43   my memories of watching the movie i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/883">TS</a>]

00:14:45   thought that the score top was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/885">TS</a>]

00:14:47   fantastic and also just because i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/887">TS</a>]

00:14:51   you know my given my surpassing familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/891">TS</a>]

00:14:54   with Jackie no I think that was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/894">TS</a>]

00:14:55   different from anything else I'd heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/895">TS</a>]

00:14:57   from at that point which was primarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/897">TS</a>]

00:14:59   like lost right and I and I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/899">TS</a>]

00:15:02   you know the up score would was so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/902">TS</a>]

00:15:05   was so sweet and and melodious and fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/905">TS</a>]

00:15:08   so well with the story that it really I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/908">TS</a>]

00:15:11   really there's you know the theme that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/911">TS</a>]

00:15:13   they played and you know the Oscars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/913">TS</a>]

00:15:14   whenever they show a clip and they play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/914">TS</a>]

00:15:15   sort of the central motif of that of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/915">TS</a>]

00:15:18   movie and it's just it's such a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/918">TS</a>]

00:15:20   such a note-perfect beautiful little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/920">TS</a>]

00:15:22   little piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/922">TS</a>]

00:15:23   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/923">TS</a>]

00:15:40   I just saw an interview with him where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/940">TS</a>]

00:15:45   where I'm not sure whether it's it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/945">TS</a>]

00:15:48   could misinterpret what he said or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/948">TS</a>]

00:15:49   whether he actually made it this way but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/949">TS</a>]

00:15:50   the impression I got was that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/950">TS</a>]

00:15:52   believes that his score saved that movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/952">TS</a>]

00:15:57   because he believes that he tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/957">TS</a>]

00:16:00   what he said was something like if I if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/960">TS</a>]

00:16:02   I don't score the the montage right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/962">TS</a>]

00:16:06   where you really forget feel the emotion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/966">TS</a>]

00:16:09   of of the guy and his wife and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/969">TS</a>]

00:16:12   life together in him losing her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/972">TS</a>]

00:16:14   he said by the time you get to the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/974">TS</a>]

00:16:16   where there are dogs hijacking airplanes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/976">TS</a>]

00:16:18   you're just gonna be checked out and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/978">TS</a>]

00:16:20   and I thought it was really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/980">TS</a>]

00:16:21   and i'm not quite sure whether he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/981">TS</a>]

00:16:23   misquoted or what's going on because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/983">TS</a>]

00:16:25   he's essentially saying any maybe right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/985">TS</a>]

00:16:27   is that unless you make that emotional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/987">TS</a>]

00:16:29   investment in that montage which is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/989">TS</a>]

00:16:31   of amazing in which the music is a major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/991">TS</a>]

00:16:32   part of because there is no dialogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/992">TS</a>]

00:16:35   there it is just the music and visual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/995">TS</a>]

00:16:36   right right that that movie might not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/996">TS</a>]

00:16:38   play as well if you if you don't get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/998">TS</a>]

00:16:40   emotional investment to ground you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:41   before you have talking dogs who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:44   running around a a dirigible a Zeppelin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:47   if you will that makes that makes a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:50   of sense to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:51   yeah I think this is probably my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:53   favorite and for just that reason I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:55   it really that you know that that first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:59   six seven minutes so that you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:01   that montage it just rips your heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:03   right out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:04   it was just so good second second place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:07   might be the the ratatouille score which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:09   is just so charming and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:11   locative of this this world that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:14   create in Paris but now i want to put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:17   the good word for for the music that God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:20   had noticed which was his videogame work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:22   and the Medal of Honor series which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:26   guess is like that you have 12 or 13 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28   years old now and that that first medal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:31   of honor score which is on CD it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:33   pretty easy to get i think it's even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:34   downloadable is really good and it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:36   know it's really sounds like a film and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:38   it's really just it's really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:40   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:54   actually Jason I like the incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:57   score but I I'm kind of its kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1077">TS</a>]

00:17:59   third tier for me precisely because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:02   a little bit too derivative of John be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:04   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:05   this is true this is true I i see what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:07   love I love it I and I part of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:09   that i love that movie yeah and then one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:12   more thing that for time there I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:13   have said that that it would be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:15   difficult for him to go wrong and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:19   interesting that you brought up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:20   interview which i'd love to track down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:22   and look at the you know that his music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:24   saved may have saved help save up which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:27   is interesting because his worst score [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:30   by far has got to be landing lost which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:34   was abysmal e bad and the music sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:38   like it's written to the material if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:41   if you hear it so he wasn't trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:43   save it he was just going with i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:46   so i saw the movie months after I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:48   because i have this kind of funny habit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:51   i tend to buy soundtracks before I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:54   movies and sometimes I never get around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:57   to seeing the movie but i have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:58   soundtrack but that was one where i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:02   i bought the soundtrack the day it came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:04   out i downloaded from itunes the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06   came out and then saw the movie when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:09   came out on DVD in it and almost didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:11   finish it it it's really terrible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:15   the music is about this it's very uneven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:19   that's sort of you know he goes from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:21   slapstick to and it just feels like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:23   kind of phone do then and the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:25   about like that to dan you were saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:27   that you've been listening to the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:29   temple of doom soundtrack yeah i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:31   had that on this afternoon actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:33   well you're to go they released a box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:35   set of all full of all that was all for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:37   you know I hate to admit this is worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:39   that there's for the leader going on but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:42   of all ps4 Indiana Jones that come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:46   yeah yeah I don't know it had something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:48   to do with that others Arthur said there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:50   was a skull and on there i have this box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:53   that has the scores for all for Indiana [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:55   Jones movies and so I you know had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:57   ripped them off my computer and I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:58   to find that they're really helpful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:00   working just because there's not there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:01   no words or anything so you know you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:03   kind of zone out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:04   have that running in the background and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:06   so I the Temple of Doom is the one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:08   I am beast familiar with because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:10   actually already owned copies of raiders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:12   and last crusade at you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:14   album versions of those at when before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:17   even got the box set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:19   I like that i was listening temple you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:21   because I don't know it as well as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:22   others and I think you seen that movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:24   recently by the way I tell you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:27   I'm not gonna lie i've actually only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:28   seen it maybe 15 only seen it once I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:32   it's never had a desire to revisit my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:34   now wondering if it's as bad as i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:35   remember honestly the first day I might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:38   with a very funny experience I had with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:39   this was that when i was in high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:41   we used to do these like movie marathon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43   nights for my friends birthday and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:45   one times like will do you know we did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:47   Star Wars last year will do Indiana [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:48   Jones this year and so we watch traders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:51   and then we put in Temple of Doom and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:53   watch the first 10 minutes right up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:56   the part where they jump out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:57   plane and then they said the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:58   this movie is no good he started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:00   everything we went on to Last Crusade i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:02   did see the first 10 minutes of it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:03   on cable and i watched it up until they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:05   jump out of the plane and and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:07   said alright that's that entire first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:09   scene is fantastic and actually on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:11   soundtrack i really loved the cake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:13   capture singing the Chinese version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:15   anything-goes which is just kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:18   it's a bizarre little kind of fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:21   musical number one of the funniest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:23   things and in the entire Indiana Jones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:25   series is that is the moment I love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:28   moment where he's standing at the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:29   of the plane having finally escaped and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:31   he shouts nice trial oj and closes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:34   door to reveal that he's on a lounge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:36   chair freight plane i love that it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:39   funny and then there in the plane and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:41   they jump out and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:42   yeah i mean age actually the movie is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:44   not awful there are some great sequences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:46   in but it's still a pretty good score [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:48   all things considered I don't think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:50   resonates with me quite as much as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:52   other two because i love those movies so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:54   much but i think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:57   say what you will and i know a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:58   people you know don't necessarily have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:00   the all-embracing love John Williams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:03   that i have but i think you know even at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:06   his worst you know the worst you can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:08   about a John Williams score is that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:10   you know constantly professional scorer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:13   you know it may not be one of his best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:15   works but at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:17   I it's john williams and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19   automatically for me put it a cut above [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:21   most most things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:29   if we had talked about scott pilgrim I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:32   would have talked about the scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:33   pilgrim music was there haha yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:35   good music good you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:36   although let me tell you inception has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:37   music haha inception has music that beat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:41   you over the head until you are dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:43   did you see that the youtube video about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:45   it though no this is a kind of all just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:48   because this is actually gonna talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:50   about spoilers for inception but I but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:51   the music is is who is the composer Hans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:55   Zimmer oh it's hans zimmer yes and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:57   what's fascinating about this that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:58   somebody notices so you know the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:00   the main queue for that movie you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:03   the dawn dawn it's sort of like having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:07   ponderous background and bring into your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:10   head turns out that's actually so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:14   know in the music they use a in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:15   movie they use the there's an Edith Piaf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:18   song that they used to synchronize I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:22   don't try to do this I can't wait to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:23   spoiler I'm to synchronize the the kick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:27   yes right if you take the beginning of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:29   that song and slow it down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31   that is what it sounds like and he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:34   that kind of on purpose as it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:35   fascinating go look at the there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:37   youtube video online somewhere of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:39   comparing the two and it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:41   quite clever when you think of it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:42   way i know it is kind of a we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:45   we're not particularly melodious a piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:47   of music but I kind of appreciated it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:50   for that aspect of it i was going to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:53   who wrote it for him sing well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:58   obviously was that Edith Piaf song just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:00   slow down right we'll see that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:01   entire score you know it's to our two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:03   and it's like it's like that justin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:05   bieber song on twitter that that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:08   slow down so it's 18 minutes long and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:10   suddenly it's a pure moods half an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:12   long and it's great and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:15   attacked guitar oh it's great it's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:17   of the most relaxing things I've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:19   in years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:21   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:32   actually heard the it's the doctor who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:36   theme slow down to 110 that speed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:38   that's great too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:39   that actually is you can tell where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:41   are in the theme but you know it'll take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:44   45 minutes to get through it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:45   fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:49   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:59   more music should be played at 17 the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:02   speed perhaps except from Hans Zimmer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:05   yeah maybe not so much although I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07   love his idea of his score for the rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:10   you love the rock though i do that do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:12   that might be on my list of terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:13   movies i was gonna say what's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:15   suggestion was we should talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:17   movies that other people don't like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:18   you like that's not even the worst movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:21   that I like that other people hate sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:23   I could go all around i think the rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:24   was ok but I know there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:26   people who it's it's it's you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:28   will say this it's michael bay's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:29   it's michael bay's best work which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:31   cannot say much but or ok Dan you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:35   intrigue me with your words that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:36   suggests that there are other movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:37   that you like the people hate anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:40   i'm gonna get castigated for this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:42   one of my favorite movies of all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:44   possibly of all time is a terrible bruce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:48   willis vehicle called hudson hawk is up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:52   is a fan decks significant because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:55   so so bizarre it is a movie that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:58   surreal and kind of you know filled with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:01   terrible like plays on words and and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:06   sorts of like slapstick humor and yet I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:09   find utterly delightful and it was when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:13   it came out as i believe it was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:15   roundly panned by are pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:18   everybody for being like you know Bruce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:20   Willis trying to basically make his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:23   character movie franchise and and sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:27   of like it was a vanity piece basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:29   but a friend of mine introduced me to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:31   either in high school or college and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:34   don't know it's just it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:35   over-the-top and so campy that I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:39   find it utterly you know delightful to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:41   watch and and kind of ridiculous eclairs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:44   it's a no and for those of you not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:46   familiar with it basically bruce willis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:49   plays a thief reform thief is so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:52   starts with him getting out of prison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:53   who is then sort of hired by this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:56   mysterious benefactor to to steal things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1616">TS</a>]

00:27:00   that belong to me in our davinci [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:02   actually sounds plausible but the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:05   the best part of this is that so his his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:08   partner his in crime is played by danny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:12   aiello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:12   and they do their robberies by a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:16   their robberies synchronizing them by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18   singing songs so there's this great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:22   number where they're robbing uh an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:24   auction house and singing swinging on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:27   star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:28   dad it's fantastic and so it is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:32   strange and entertaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:34   I don't know it's that's one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:35   guilty pleasure I saw it for the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:37   time this year actually some friend of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:41   mine said you got to see this now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:43   really not as bad as it is as you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:45   heard it wasn't as bad as I've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:48   okay i'll give you that and and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50   particular robbery scene is one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:52   kind of sticks in my mind but then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:55   got Sandra bernhardt in there you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:57   chewing up the scenery and yeah you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1677">TS</a>]

00:28:00   kind of see why it was really so reviled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:03   but at yeah it isn't it isn't as bad as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:07   as it's been made out to be but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:09   doesn't make it any good but it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:13   delightful little turns from my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:15   being james coburn as a his uh his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:19   character's name but he is it George [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:22   cabin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:23   yeah it's an homage to North by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:24   Northwest and the just call yourself a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:27   fan I just like it slipped my mind and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:30   all the heat because i have to defend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:32   this movie with my with my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:34   you're out of the hudson hawk fan club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:36   now what I'm the old any president and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38   founder of secretary-treasurer yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:41   you're out anyway so right now there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:44   nobody anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:45   who let you in it's my turn off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:47   lights yeah it's a it's a it's a fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:49   ridiculously terrible me and and you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:52   to the end and there's a there's a scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:53   which makes it all worthwhile because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:55   you can basically tell that they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:57   know that this movie is is not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:59   remotely serious where a character who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:02   you think is dead after seeing them like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:05   go off a cliff with like an exploding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:08   car so you know rides up of course kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:10   of city and everything and they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:11   oh my god you're alive like how did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:14   get out of the fire and they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:16   sprinkler system and they're all like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:18   that's got to be it you know that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:21   like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:22   I love that sort of sheer joyful moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:24   of B we don't even believe this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:26   ourselves but we're having a good time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:28   wow well dan I might be want to be on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:33   story podcast side I don't think I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:36   don't I've got the 1i i'm such a are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:40   rugged individualist that I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42   don't know whether people like movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:44   that I like nor do i care but i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:46   that everybody hates em night Shyamalan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:48   and really why not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:51   but not only did I kind of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:52   village but I love unbreakable which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:54   think is generally thought to have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:56   a failure because it was just follow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:58   to the sixties I thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1798">TS</a>]

00:29:59   well-received there but it's kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:01   cult classic and i'll say that a cult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:03   classic seaside also want to note I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:05   gonna file that under cult classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:07   because I I talk about unbreakable with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:08   some people in there like ugh you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:10   just oh come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:12   but I thought it was a great I one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14   the better superhero movies ever to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:16   made because it wasn't you don't go in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:17   understanding that it is a superhero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:19   movie and it's only later that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:21   discover that Bruce Willis there he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:23   again is actually poncho man and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:26   just didn't even know that poncho purple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:28   punch oh man was a superhero because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:30   wasn't until you saw the movie and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:32   realize that i will say that it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:34   fantastic movie let me try another one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:36   then I didn't think that watchman was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:38   terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:39   oh I although although that scene in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:42   it with the music playing and with uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:45   what is it hallelujah which is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:47   destroyed that a that music entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49   where they're having sex in the AL ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:51   up in the sky was so terrible and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:54   think there's some questionable casting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:55   decisions but you know I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:57   thought that was not I i I've lived with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1857">TS</a>]

00:31:01   that comic book for a long time and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:02   actually thought that that as film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:04   adaptations of I've imagined go it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:06   probably have been it was not not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:09   complete disaster i thought that it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:11   its heart in the right place and parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:13   of it worked pretty well and then other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:15   yeah they have any should've cast real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:17   actors instead of pretty on unknown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:19   people who were they should spend less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:21   money on some of their green screen work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:24   and maybe a little more money on alcohol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:25   though it had to you know I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27   was a movie that was flawed but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:28   ambitious and as a result I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:31   know there's something to be said for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:32   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:33   it also does have a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:34   markable terms I thought out Jackie are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:37   highly as Rorschach is nicer a fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:41   and probably the best performance in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:42   that entirely as opposed to the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:45   performance in the entire movie which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:46   it a toss up between melon acre melon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:49   and who is you can't act her way out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51   a paper bag and matthew goode who is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:54   a bad actor but you've hit the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56   biggest but he get in my face probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:58   his accent changes like every five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:00   minutes in that movie and he just looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:02   he just can't yell it in English its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:04   German its American it is English its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:07   but i agree that it's not it's not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09   awful movie I wouldn't say that I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:10   liked it loved it or anything but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:12   know I agree that it was kind of a noble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14   failure that movie for me that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:16   diminished source material haha because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:21   I i left that I saw with a friend of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:23   mine yet you can look at Lori now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:25   without thinking of mail & Ackerman no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:27   vacant eyes of man cannot be best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:30   this is that no it actually 2222 see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:35   that movie on screen is to understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:38   why more thought it couldn't and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:40   shouldn't have been made into a film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:42   because the to actually see it play out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:46   that way is to realize that there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:48   some real incoherent aspects of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:52   story so it sort of exposes it exposes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:55   parts of the story that maybe we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:57   hidden in the in a comic write it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:59   that but there are some real sins in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:01   that film that the greatest of which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03   to give to mail & Ackerman the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:06   important Lyle in the entire book which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:09   was dr. Manhattan's line at the very end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:11   hey I remember what John said to me once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:14   about something that was none related to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:15   this at all one thing ever never ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:17   really over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:18   no nothing's ever really / you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:20   told me that once haha yeah alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:22   that's a no you want to eat i'm hungry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:25   that's gonna like let's do i'm gonna dye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:28   my hair and moved to California so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:30   that yeah it had a lot of loss i said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:34   for years that the only way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:35   watchman should ever be made into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:37   anything would be a 12-part like HBO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:41   series miniseries where they could do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:44   in the twelve parts and tell these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:45   individual sort of story chunks with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:47   those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:47   endings and the cliffhangers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49   happened at the end of the chapters the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:51   issues from the comic there is some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:54   attempt you know the game of thrones by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:56   george RR martin is being made into an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:58   HBO series and I I look at that and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:01   now that's I think that's how you how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:03   you have to do it or if you some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:05   band of brothers are the Pacific where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07   there's a essentially a big mega [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:08   miniseries I just think that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:11   concept was just going to be too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:12   expensive for them to do it so they end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:14   up making this movie instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:15   and it's funny when you say that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:16   the first thing I thought when you when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:18   you mentioned watchman is that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20   my feeling on it's like wow you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:21   this movie the best thing I can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:23   about this movie is it makes me long for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:24   the day when they eventually we might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:26   not as a TV series in the Indian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:28   depreciated category and throughout kiss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:30   kiss bang bang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:31   how is that uh appreciate that's that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:33   like one of the best movies like nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:35   even knows that exists right Shane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:37   Black's uh directed and written and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:40   got a bad reputation right from the sum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:42   of the didn't you do last action hero or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:44   something or you did some day he's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:46   bad like personal rep I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:48   because I think he went through some bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:49   stuff in the eighties but he also wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:50   I mean the original lead away which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:52   actually a pretty darn good movie but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:54   that's that's a welcomer and robbins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:57   junior that's managed on him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2097">TS</a>]

00:34:59   no I haven't and send the cue but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:02   very mellow yeah yeah I we recommended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:04   race on shocked the country actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:06   because I didn't have high expectations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:08   I i had recommended by somebody in and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:10   was i could not believe how good it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:12   that was one of the last movie I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:14   multiple times in a movie theater i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:15   think i actually saw three times because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17   i kept dragging other people to it being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:18   like you got to see this movie and last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:20   on my list of course spider-man 3 which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:22   is no I can't even he can't even pretend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:24   that this terrible funny though because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:27   you mentioned Sean and I was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:29   say not only do i like the village and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:30   unbreakable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:31   I like lady in the water and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:32   definitely in the minority there I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:34   didn't although i will say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:35   happening is a terrible movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:38   I haven't seen it happening that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:39   wear my own just don't know it's so bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:42   it's a terrible movie I will I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:44   argue that shaman is a is an excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:46   an extremely talented filmmaker I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:49   if you look at any of his movies not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:51   just you know from a writing perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:53   but from the perspective of a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:55   an officer the the films that he put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:58   together our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2158">TS</a>]

00:35:59   so well they're well shot ya know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:02   deliberate yes it's got you know really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:04   great total consistency for the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:07   part he's just an excellent filmmaker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:09   but you know for whatever reason his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:11   last couple movies I mean I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:13   unfortunate because like you said I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:14   think so much got banged on the name you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:16   know like after he made his reputation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:18   with six cents like everybody got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:20   expecting a certain type of movie from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:23   the total and that lucky especially the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:25   whole like twist ending thing I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:27   that unfortunately kinda kinda you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:29   not enough foot yeah yeah because like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:32   mean and and to be fair six cents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:33   unbreakable has a great twist ending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:36   that I you know I will say I did not see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:37   coming at all yet and that seems still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:39   gets me every time I last scene where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:41   it's just like oh my god you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:44   was not a coincidence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:45   yeah and so I mean I think he he makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:47   great films and I think you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:50   certainly don't think we've heard the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:51   last of him he's got this but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:54   know he's got this knight chronicles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:56   thing going which is I guess he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:59   producing these films and they're sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:01   of based on maybe some of his ideas but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:04   he's letting other people right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:06   directed my first one of these is devil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:08   which is coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:10   I don't know when it's coming out this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:12   it's coming out soon yeah i mean i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:15   to interject there because i went to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:16   went to the movies last week and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:19   played the trailer for this right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:21   arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:22   oh yeah and that the text came up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:24   because they don't say that he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:25   directing it you tried my internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:27   channel and from the mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:29   yes and he moves people booed it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31   good yeah it was booed when i was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:33   everyone goes OH really you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:36   and and I'm surprised because this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:37   not like a Peter where that I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39   there's there's a lot of bed often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:40   happening but man we all my friends and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:43   our kind of looked at each other like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:44   holding out we didn't realize that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:46   know i mean we know that he's using his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48   reputation and credibility has gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50   downhill but that was pretty brutal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52   that's too bad i mean he's a he's a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:53   who's right for a comeback if he gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:55   there although if you see the online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:57   there's a parody so that movies about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:58   like you know a bunch of people get shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:00   like stuck in an elevator in a tall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:01   building and there's like a demon or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:03   something in there with them I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:04   know Devil's you be heated a parody of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:06   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:07   um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:08   with people trapped on including himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:10   in it of people trapped on an escalator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:12   which is actually pretty funny so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:15   there's like a two minute trailer of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:17   this movie about these three people get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:18   stuck on an escalator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:20   ya know canvas career be saved I I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:23   he's got the talent so it's gonna give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:25   him five to ten years to sort of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:26   know cool off fine go find himself and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:29   think I think you'll see him come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:31   with something that that will everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:33   will go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:33   hey remember I'm not java on that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:35   bet you thought he was like dad or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:37   something out in this movie is good that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:40   that's that's the hope is us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:42   occasionally talk about I think he took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:43   it as a personal affront that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:44   unbreakable wasn't a hit but he noted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:47   talking occasionally about about doing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:49   sequel which I would love because I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:50   the first movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:51   yea though I heard last I heard was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:53   one of the ideas for this Knight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:55   Chronicles series was going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:57   somebody doing you know taking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2337">TS</a>]

00:38:59   idomeni he had taken the idea he had for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:02   a sequel and turning it into a separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:05   unconnected movie cells too well he also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:07   said he still wants to do the sequel but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:09   that is idea is one idea for a villain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:12   that you had briefly thought about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:14   including in the first movie was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:16   to be broken off but he said so because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:19   i think i saw the same interview I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:20   you're talking about and I think he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:22   so the unbreakable sequel will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:24   something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:25   so that's you know that's promising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:27   maybe they'll be nice i mean like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:28   think the big as you said I think he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30   took it very personally my cousin who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:32   a huge movie aficionado you know will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:34   always point the scene and Lady of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:35   water where that basically involves the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:38   sort of brutal killing of a film critic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:40   and say there's something wrong yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42   you've got to put that into a movie like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:44   clearly you know you have some issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46   that you need to work out and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:48   he's probably not wrong about that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:50   and I hope that he works through those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:52   issues because again i do think he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:54   really talented filmmaker yeah I yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:56   let's hide that that seem that seam is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:59   mystifying and terrible and in otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:03   wonder movie that i really like but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:05   know well again it had its faults it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:07   it's a it's interesting because it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:11   sort of parable fairytale kind of movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:12   all that it was not marketed as such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:14   which was one of the big reasons I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:16   it fly faster but Stardust was better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:18   start us was I like to start us but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:21   don't know there's something about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:22   leaving the water that it may have just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:23   been you know the point at which i saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:25   or you know what was feeling good that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:28   day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:28   yeah i don't know i mean i really i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:30   thought it was really good and speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:31   of movies with a great score it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:33   fantastic score by James Newton Howard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:34   who does i think almost all the nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:37   John with stuff i think i think it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:38   involve yeah i like the young guy like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:40   the ingredients for yeah that's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:42   scores well he did that he did that too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:44   i think that they're good they're good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:46   pair i was thinking that you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:48   about about Shana I was thinking I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:50   wonder if I wonder if Robert Rodriguez [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:52   is so entering that period where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:57   know some of his material is just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2457">TS</a>]

00:41:00   little bit too self-indulgent and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:02   not-so-great he's in his comfort zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:06   right because he's just making movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:07   for himself down in the down in Austin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:09   like your eyes in his house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:11   I i mean i'll say I liked I liked both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:13   Rodriguez half of a grindhouse and I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:17   machete this past week and actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:18   thought it was pretty darn good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:20   I mean it's set up to do a certain thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:22   and I think it really did that pretty I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:24   am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:24   no I i actually yeah I liked planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:27   terror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:28   I mean of the two parts by the terror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:31   was the tighter and less sprawling of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:34   the two and i did see machete and I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:36   I liked it more or less likely said he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:38   was a little bit little bit long little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:40   bit episodic but yeah I didn't I enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:43   it a great deal and i i i i laughed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:47   throughout and and i've since i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49   i've read a lot of a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:51   criticism of in particular some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53   political criticism of men and it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:55   of like a little bit too much but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:59   not bad it could be probably half an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:02   hour shorter than it is but yeah my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:04   friend said that cut 10 minutes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:06   people talking and replace it with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:08   no more killing people can be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:10   yeah that's right that's right for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:12   movie that started as a joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:14   yes oh yeah joke time it fulfilled on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:17   exactly the movie you wanted to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:20   after that trailer which was pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:22   impressive is he and host or is he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:24   a wrong guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:26   no no easy he's wrong he's an expert on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:28   ladies who has been left for dead and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:30   write comebacks comes back with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:32   mature for revenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:34   right you know what else is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:35   you know what else is getting made hobo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:37   with a shotgun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:38   yes I heard that with whatever our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40   director our looking about a hundred and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42   fifty-five years old but and he's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:44   day over a hundred and seventy-five I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:46   seen hobos on fire by the Grail road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:49   gate 5 i've heard the cries of a shotgun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:53   freaking out that have been in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:55   identifying release too many times I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:57   to cash in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2577">TS</a>]

00:42:59   I had a conversation with somebody about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:01   blade runner the other day saying I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:03   know maybe for me it's never been one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:05   those like you know a lot of people side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07   is such a great guy like me I i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:10   it's I've enjoyed the one version of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:13   that I've seen which was the director's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:15   cut version so i guess that's the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17   version the version that was not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:18   theatrical release for the voiceover but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:20   the version that was not the final cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:21   that was really later it's like let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23   tell you that's a movie that's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:24   released [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:25   way too many times now and and also I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:27   really dislike ridley scott from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:29   meddling in i think you know I'm very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:31   strong believer that once the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:33   leaves the hands of the filmmaker and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:34   enters that the audience that basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:36   you should shut the hell up as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:38   filmmaker I like the idea of saying look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:40   at that we hit we all hated the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:42   voiceover let's try it without right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:44   i've heard people who say that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:45   really like the voice-over version and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:47   that to them is a pure version because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:49   it was sort of the original and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:50   think that you know there's a there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:52   aspect of the noir hard-boiled more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:55   detective to it that makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:57   I've seen the original and the final cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2637">TS</a>]

00:44:00   of Blade Runner and so one with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:02   narration and one without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:04   and what I'll tell you is while I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:05   appreciated things about them and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:08   of the dialogue and and the art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:09   direction i find both of them sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:13   inducing and in fact both times i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:15   inflicted this moving on my wife she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:17   fell asleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:18   both times that's a that's a perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:21   batting average of putting my wife to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23   sleep and really driving me close to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:25   edge of sleep to I if we were talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:27   about movies that i think are overrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:28   i have to say it I think blade runner's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:30   is as fascinating as it is or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:33   psychologically they had I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:36   really like it based on a book that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:38   that is very different from the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:41   yeah very clearly has a very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:43   vision from philip k dick original novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:46   and I think that's again the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:47   the reason that I mean I just don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:50   you know really Scott basically came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:52   one point said I think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:54   decorative woman you know i won't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:56   which way not going to sense come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:58   you're not gonna sound this point no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2698">TS</a>]

00:44:59   I'm not that old he thinks the doctored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:01   was a replicant right yeah and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:03   well I mean I you know I respect that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:05   his own interpretation but i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:07   you know it's basically again once it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:09   out of your hands like you know shut the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:11   hell up and let the audience like I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:13   because the movie leaves it kind of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:15   know ambiguous and well I know the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:18   15 years I knew about that movie I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:21   didn't even give that a serious bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:23   consideration as possibility so I i find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:25   it ambiguous yeah okay that's very did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:28   but I mean I think you know I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:30   it should be left up to the audience to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:32   make their own interpretation that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:33   that's my opinion that you know the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:36   that the filmmaker should not interfere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:38   with that right but you know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:40   score holds up pretty well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:41   see that's part of the reason that I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:43   pass out when i try to watch it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:45   there's no Angeles yeah to put me just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:48   wants me to pull it's actually not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:50   it's actually just his chariots of fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:52   theme slowed was gonna say that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:54   awesome be awesome you just remade that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:56   movie with the chariots of fire theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:58   and said no now let's know it 17 species [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:01   into the score listen to the score on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:03   its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:03   let's go to score on sounds trip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:07   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:14   are there any movies that are that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:17   on the way or that you've seen recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:18   that are coming to video that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:20   like to recommend to our massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:21   incomparable movie audience who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:23   already shut off their ipods and putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:25   them into the sea because this podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:27   has gone on too long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:28   kickass kick-ass just add on well DVD i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:31   think it's big enough now for a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:33   time people here is probably what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:34   month six weeks but so you like kick-ass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:36   with the tablet with a foul mouth little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:38   girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:39   yeah yeah and actually that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:40   thing where I i wasn't really familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:43   with the graphic novel on which it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:45   based but um read the graphic novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:47   before I saw the movie and so I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:49   a new kind of what to expect going in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:51   and it it improved some things on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:55   graphic novel and it and it makes some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:58   compromises but I think for the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2818">TS</a>]

00:46:59   part of the improvements outweigh the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:02   deficiencies and I thought it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:05   really good and kind of looking forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:08   to the sequel i will say that i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:09   the first two-thirds of it is excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:11   and then I think it kind of last act it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:13   loses its way a little bit a bit a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:16   but it if it's such a great like parody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:21   not like parody satire on on the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:24   superhero genre for about the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:26   two-thirds three-fourths of it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:28   the last act really turns it into wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:30   now you're actually making a superhero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:32   movie and so you kind of become the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:34   thing that you're satirizing and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:35   that's where it lost me but i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:36   the first two-thirds of it is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:38   really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:39   ya know and the actors are great in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:42   and you know Nick Cage hams it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:45   beautifully and now it's um it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:49   well worth seeing and I'm gonna watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:52   again on DVD pretty soon but too well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:55   worth it not worth it all right what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:56   about you Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:57   I'm sort of flipping through and seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2877">TS</a>]

00:47:59   with what's coming out soon because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:00   think there were a couple things coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:01   out in a in the next month or two that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:04   did want to see you want to see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:05   movie about the owls that saved the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:07   magical fairyland that was totally one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:09   of them how did you know in a way where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:12   this razor one with chihuahuas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:14   I I don't share their personal foul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:18   remotely was with two was in it I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:21   the two that I sort of see as I flipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:22   through what's coming out is there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:25   movie coming out called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:27   hold up buried with ryan right yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:30   which has a it's basically about a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:33   who gets you know sort of the divers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:34   like a military contractor and iran iraq [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:36   i think it's like kidnapped and buried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:38   basically in a coffin and it's got this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:40   fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:41   it's got some great trailers to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:43   very atmospheric there's an aspect of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:46   that you know they've been really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:47   playing up in a lot of the posters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:49   and trailers almost AAA saul bass sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:53   of like ethic design ethic that reminds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:55   you of like the old Hitchcock openings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:57   and I think there is something sort of i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:59   like to be I love those movies that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:01   based on those really really constrained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:03   sets i think of I think again of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:06   cock movies like a rope and lifeboat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:09   where it's really confined into ace a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:12   single location and it and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:14   especially for a movie that is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:16   clearly a little really claustrophobic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:19   I think that that that's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:20   interesting idea so I have no idea if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:22   it's good or not but it said it strikes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:25   me as something that's that's different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:26   and unique and I don't know if Reynolds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:29   has what it takes to pull it off but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:32   think that's I would certainly be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:34   interested finding out and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:36   other thing i think i was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:37   interested in seeing was actually the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:39   social network because i think i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:41   like David Fincher I think he's a he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:43   very talented director and it strikes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:46   and I like the guy who they get slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:48   to jesse eisenberg who last year was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:50   zombieland and did a fantastic job in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:52   that movie and if you ever want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:55   him in another really good roll movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57   called rodger dodger that he did many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:58   years ago with Campbell Scott is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:00   really good and so those are converted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:02   the interesting intersection of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:05   along with this story of I don't know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:07   the story of facebook is really that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:08   interesting but the idea that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:11   it interested both venture and aaron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:13   sorkin who wrote the screenplay enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:15   to make a movie out of it suggests to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:16   that there is there something there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:18   news broke this week or or maybe last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:28   week as you're listening to this dear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:30   listener for that a deal has been cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:33   between Stephen King yes soul and Brian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:38   Grazer and Ron Howard and they are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:40   to make the dark tower not as a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:43   and not as a TV series but as a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:46   and a TV series in another movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:49   another season of a TV series and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:51   another movie this is this is the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:54   ambitious thing I've heard since the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:55   week before when they announced that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:57   they were going to turn Sandman into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3057">TS</a>]

00:50:58   TV show and then we'll save that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:01   another podcast yeah we'll save that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:03   another podcast but still i love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:05   dark tower and and I you know if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:09   going to be done then I agree that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11   needs to be done in a suitably sprawling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:13   epic fashion and honestly I could spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:15   an entire podcast talking about the dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:16   tower but not this but not this one but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:19   you know a separate separate the road I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:22   I just in some ways even with the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:24   know people like Ron Howard you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:26   names like that behind it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:28   part of me wonders if this will ever get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:29   done just because it's so ambitious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:32   yeah and and there's a lot of talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34   it and and previously in fact the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36   rights were held by JJ Abrams and garlic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:41   you say yeah and so they couldn't figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:43   out how to get a handle on it and after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:45   several years and so you know i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:48   Howard's you know Ron Howard is a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:51   know has made some good movies in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:52   past but he's also you know turned out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:53   lot of really really bland studio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:56   pictures in recent years and so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:58   it's a weird pairing from that regard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:01   see him involved in that and akiva [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:03   goldsman who is the writer has quite a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:07   spotty resume in space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:11   I believe those who wrote the Batman and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:14   Robin Thicke get lost in space Batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:16   and Robin but also beautiful mind a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:19   beautiful mind and actually is already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:21   gun parts of French yeah actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:23   brought some so up and down up and down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:26   yeah but interesting I I think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:28   great idea and the idea that they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:29   cast they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:31   cast the people and they would be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:33   movies and TV shows and they would shoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:35   it I presumably in advance my guess is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:37   to the TV series would be one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:38   13-episode jobs and not like a full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:41   sprawling 22-episode kind of thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:43   that they would shoot in an extended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:45   period of time they would shoot a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:47   and some episodes and then another film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:49   with the same crew and cast which is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:52   think never been done so and yeah any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:55   obviously that would be a lot for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:56   actor to to commit to so I find it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:58   i'm gonna find it really interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3178">TS</a>]

00:53:00   see what they get for that i read an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:01   interview with Stephen King today asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:03   him about it and asking him one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:06   questions they asked him was well how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:07   you feel about this on you know NBC as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:10   opposed to something like HBO because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:11   this is you know the dark tower is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:13   pretty grim at times violent and brutal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:17   a piece of work and you know can you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:21   that justice on on broadcast television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:23   as opposed to on you know what something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:24   like HBO and he said well you know every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:27   time I i feel like i've worked on in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:29   environment like that which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:30   constrained me a little bit really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:32   challenges me to find a creative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:33   solution and so I think he seemed sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:36   of intrigued in the challenges that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:38   would raise me i'm on a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:40   skeptical maybe of how that's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:43   pan out but I i think it will it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:45   certainly be interesting to see all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:47   right I predict we'll all be mummies by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:49   the time comes yeah that's that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:52   but the good news ben is that mummy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:55   vision will launch by then and we'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:57   able to see it in our tombs in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:59   sarcophagi well you know that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:01   to put on the 3d wrap around your head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:03   see it in full 3d in my vision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:06   alright well I think that we've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:08   enough damage for one day until the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:10   installment of the uncomfortable podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:12   i want to thank my guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:14   dan born thank you you're welcome that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:18   wait that doesn't make any sense and ben [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:20   boychuk thanks for having me thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:22   very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:23   this is jason smell thanks for listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:25   to the incomparable see you next time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:29   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:33   this has been the incomparable podcast I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:36   can't believe down Lauren life Hudson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3276">TS</a>]

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00:54:41   incomparable diet time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:45   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZaw9po/3285">TS</a>]