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293: I Think I`m Still Confused

 

00:00:03   the incomparable number 293 large 2060 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3">TS</a>]

00:00:10   welcome back everybody to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/10">TS</a>]

00:00:11   uncomfortable i'm your host Jason L we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/11">TS</a>]

00:00:13   are here to convene another edition of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/13">TS</a>]

00:00:15   our comic book club we're going to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/15">TS</a>]

00:00:17   about the weekend in the divine by karen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/17">TS</a>]

00:00:20   gillan and Jamie McKelvie published by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/20">TS</a>]

00:00:22   image comics we're going to be delving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/22">TS</a>]

00:00:23   into the first two trades will blow the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/23">TS</a>]

00:00:26   spoiler horn before we get into a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/26">TS</a>]

00:00:28   detail about them so you can run away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/28">TS</a>]

00:00:30   that there are three trade paperbacks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/30">TS</a>]

00:00:31   available so you can we like a in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/31">TS</a>]

00:00:34   book club to make it so that you can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/34">TS</a>]

00:00:36   out and buy a trade paperback or two and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/36">TS</a>]

00:00:39   have a good reading experience without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/39">TS</a>]

00:00:41   requiring you to read like 800 issues of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/41">TS</a>]

00:00:44   something anyway joining me to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/44">TS</a>]

00:00:46   about the wicked and the divine I i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/46">TS</a>]

00:00:49   some excellent members of comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/49">TS</a>]

00:00:50   club this time Lisa Schmeisser as always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/50">TS</a>]

00:00:53   hello hi I'm said that we're doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/53">TS</a>]

00:00:55   I it's good it's good to have the comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/55">TS</a>]

00:00:56   book club back in session [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/56">TS</a>]

00:00:58   mhm the Tony centralized out there hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/58">TS</a>]

00:01:00   Tony hello nerds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/60">TS</a>]

00:01:02   I we got a hell on earth from Tony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/62">TS</a>]

00:01:04   answer again but some people want for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/64">TS</a>]

00:01:06   some reason a more new comic book reader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/66">TS</a>]

00:01:10   but she's back for more complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/70">TS</a>]

00:01:12   action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/72">TS</a>]

00:01:13   it's a lien sims welcome back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/73">TS</a>]

00:01:15   comic book club hi i need to catch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/75">TS</a>]

00:01:17   phrase fruit any did need to workshop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/77">TS</a>]

00:01:19   that later you hear hello nerds sweeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/79">TS</a>]

00:01:22   the nation so I've heard that but I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/82">TS</a>]

00:01:25   feel like that's already a strong brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/85">TS</a>]

00:01:27   association is probably does this trip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/87">TS</a>]

00:01:29   I'm very litigious he's got the backing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/89">TS</a>]

00:01:34   of the future Batman behind him too so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/94">TS</a>]

00:01:35   you gotta be careful there who yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/95">TS</a>]

00:01:37   and also joining us Sheamus others hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/97">TS</a>]

00:01:40   Lefty keys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/100">TS</a>]

00:01:41   welcome back to the comic book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/101">TS</a>]

00:01:43   thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/103">TS</a>]

00:01:44   uh was not long ago and actually well as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/104">TS</a>]

00:01:47   the as the recordings go was very long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/107">TS</a>]

00:01:48   ago that we were we were talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/108">TS</a>]

00:01:50   miss marvel but that episode didn't post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/110">TS</a>]

00:01:53   too long ago so it seems to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/113">TS</a>]

00:01:55   listeners like we were just here like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/115">TS</a>]

00:01:57   month ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/117">TS</a>]

00:01:58   the boys are back so this image comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/118">TS</a>]

00:02:01   the wicked in the divine this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/121">TS</a>]

00:02:02   really interesting series wikipedia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/122">TS</a>]

00:02:05   tells me it's largely influenced by pop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/125">TS</a>]

00:02:07   music okay good thanks Wikipedia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/127">TS</a>]

00:02:12   an ancient religions it well done that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/132">TS</a>]

00:02:15   it right so the idea here is that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/135">TS</a>]

00:02:16   that there are these gods who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/136">TS</a>]

00:02:18   reincarnated and they live for a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/138">TS</a>]

00:02:20   of years and then they die and then go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/140">TS</a>]

00:02:22   away for 90 years in it and it uh it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/142">TS</a>]

00:02:24   repeats and so we are introduced to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/144">TS</a>]

00:02:28   but not all at first of the 12 people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/148">TS</a>]

00:02:31   the pantheon of reincarnated gods and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/151">TS</a>]

00:02:35   then there's a there's a we learn about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/155">TS</a>]

00:02:38   the system the they call the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/158">TS</a>]

00:02:41   what-is-it the the recurrence where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/161">TS</a>]

00:02:45   live and then they die they discover who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/165">TS</a>]

00:02:47   they are sort of as teenagers or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/167">TS</a>]

00:02:50   thereabouts-- thinking they're normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/170">TS</a>]

00:02:52   people up until then and then there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/172">TS</a>]

00:02:53   sort of picked and added to the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/173">TS</a>]

00:02:55   Pantheon and then they live for a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/175">TS</a>]

00:02:56   of years and then they die they're told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/176">TS</a>]

00:02:58   what is that they will some will love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/178">TS</a>]

00:02:59   you someone hate you you'll be dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/179">TS</a>]

00:03:00   within two years and I and and so thats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/180">TS</a>]

00:03:04   pleasure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/184">TS</a>]

00:03:04   that's part of the story and you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/184">TS</a>]

00:03:06   that upfront and then there's also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/186">TS</a>]

00:03:08   kind of motivating plot thread that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/188">TS</a>]

00:03:09   begins with some some deaths of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/189">TS</a>]

00:03:13   and people being framed potentially for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/193">TS</a>]

00:03:16   murder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/196">TS</a>]

00:03:16   so there's a mystery at its heart which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/196">TS</a>]

00:03:18   actually remind reminded me a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/198">TS</a>]

00:03:20   of watchmen a little bit in that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/200">TS</a>]

00:03:24   there's a rich world but there's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/204">TS</a>]

00:03:26   kind of a motivating did detective plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/206">TS</a>]

00:03:30   essentially at the center of it which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/210">TS</a>]

00:03:32   think is kind of interesting before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/212">TS</a>]

00:03:34   get into the plot though and blow the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/214">TS</a>]

00:03:37   spoiler horn I wanted to see if any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/217">TS</a>]

00:03:39   you had some some kind of a big thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/219">TS</a>]

00:03:41   about what what this what this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/221">TS</a>]

00:03:44   story is and and what makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/224">TS</a>]

00:03:46   interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/226">TS</a>]

00:03:47   I will be honest and say up front that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/227">TS</a>]

00:03:49   one of the things that sort of kept me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/229">TS</a>]

00:03:51   going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/231">TS</a>]

00:03:52   reading this was actually looking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/232">TS</a>]

00:03:54   pretty pretty art and usually it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/234">TS</a>]

00:03:57   other way for me usually it's the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/237">TS</a>]

00:03:59   that grabs me and sometimes the arts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01   great and sometimes I sort of grit my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/241">TS</a>]

00:04:04   teeth because I'm not enjoying the art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/244">TS</a>]

00:04:05   but keep going because the story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/245">TS</a>]

00:04:07   this time it was a bit the opposite i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/247">TS</a>]

00:04:09   felt like i was having to juggle a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/249">TS</a>]

00:04:12   lot of characters all of a sudden but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/252">TS</a>]

00:04:16   they were very pretty to look at so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/256">TS</a>]

00:04:17   kept reading agree with that and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/257">TS</a>]

00:04:21   gorgeous i read it on my iPad so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/261">TS</a>]

00:04:23   didn't have to deal with like pesky paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/263">TS</a>]

00:04:26   wines in the way and and it's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/266">TS</a>]

00:04:29   I found myself just stopping and staring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/269">TS</a>]

00:04:31   at some of some of the the pages like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/271">TS</a>]

00:04:33   the full pages because they were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/273">TS</a>]

00:04:35   gorgeous and so artfully done like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/275">TS</a>]

00:04:38   one of the earlier pages is kind of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/278">TS</a>]

00:04:40   our main character in an audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/280">TS</a>]

00:04:43   i'm in a performer onstage and trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/283">TS</a>]

00:04:45   not to be spoilery hand and just the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/285">TS</a>]

00:04:48   that they Illustrated that like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/288">TS</a>]

00:04:50   could see like you could see her but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/290">TS</a>]

00:04:52   wasn't like they put a spotlight on her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/292">TS</a>]

00:04:55   and it was just beautiful beautiful art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/295">TS</a>]

00:04:57   I had to read it a couple of times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/297">TS</a>]

00:04:58   because i was really confused i had and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/298">TS</a>]

00:05:01   as with most things with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/301">TS</a>]

00:05:02   incomparable I just kind of dive and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/302">TS</a>]

00:05:04   like yeah I'll do that and they came to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/304">TS</a>]

00:05:06   dive in and do it and I don't have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/306">TS</a>]

00:05:08   expectations going in so I I didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/308">TS</a>]

00:05:10   what the pretext was they didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/310">TS</a>]

00:05:14   hey I had no knowledge and so it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/314">TS</a>]

00:05:16   I have no idea what's happening and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/316">TS</a>]

00:05:20   don't know if you're one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/320">TS</a>]

00:05:21   readers and you're like this is really i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/321">TS</a>]

00:05:23   have no clue go through and read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/323">TS</a>]

00:05:25   again because it's worth it a second and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/325">TS</a>]

00:05:26   third time and and there's a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/326">TS</a>]

00:05:30   at the end so i bought mine on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/330">TS</a>]

00:05:31   comixology and so they have kind of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/331">TS</a>]

00:05:34   that back material and they included [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/334">TS</a>]

00:05:37   kind of their promotional materials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/337">TS</a>]

00:05:38   which which I could have used at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/338">TS</a>]

00:05:40   front of the book and think I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/340">TS</a>]

00:05:41   been on board faster so if you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/341">TS</a>]

00:05:44   like the first volume and go read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/344">TS</a>]

00:05:47   back of the book in circle around again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/347">TS</a>]

00:05:50   because I found that really helpful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/350">TS</a>]

00:05:51   after I found it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/351">TS</a>]

00:05:52   yeah similarly i actually went hunting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/352">TS</a>]

00:05:55   online this afternoon and evening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/355">TS</a>]

00:05:57   looking for annotations like no like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/357">TS</a>]

00:05:59   mice and men experience was I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/359">TS</a>]

00:06:01   Sandman but once i found annotations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/361">TS</a>]

00:06:03   that explain the things i didn't get I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/363">TS</a>]

00:06:04   loved it even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/364">TS</a>]

00:06:05   yeah so we're looking unfortunately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/365">TS</a>]

00:06:07   there's not no unified nobody's doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/367">TS</a>]

00:06:09   like a really thrown unified annotation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/369">TS</a>]

00:06:12   jetta found a couple of tumblers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/372">TS</a>]

00:06:13   have done some of the issues and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/373">TS</a>]

00:06:15   helped because especially references to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/375">TS</a>]

00:06:18   the London geography this is set in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/378">TS</a>]

00:06:20   England there were some things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/380">TS</a>]

00:06:23   didn't pick up on just because I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/383">TS</a>]

00:06:24   never been there yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/384">TS</a>]

00:06:25   I was I was I was looking for that too i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/385">TS</a>]

00:06:27   remember reading Alan Moore's League of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/387">TS</a>]

00:06:30   Extraordinary Gentlemen and there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/390">TS</a>]

00:06:31   website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/391">TS</a>]

00:06:32   has like the undressing yes like panel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/392">TS</a>]

00:06:35   by panel level like autopsy of what's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/395">TS</a>]

00:06:37   there and I was looking for that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/397">TS</a>]

00:06:39   this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/399">TS</a>]

00:06:40   there's also one for jet for Kingdom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/400">TS</a>]

00:06:43   Come that is meticulous panel by panel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/403">TS</a>]

00:06:45   yeah this is gonna watch I 12 you and me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/405">TS</a>]

00:06:48   from hell that that demands the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/408">TS</a>]

00:06:51   annotations practically and I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/411">TS</a>]

00:06:52   admit like Shannon like the first their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/412">TS</a>]

00:06:54   first time I read through this i bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/414">TS</a>]

00:06:57   the trade the paper trades because I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59   do like being able to stick my thumb at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/419">TS</a>]

00:07:01   like one part of the book and foot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/421">TS</a>]

00:07:02   forward and flip backwards which is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/422">TS</a>]

00:07:03   i found myself doing a lot with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/423">TS</a>]

00:07:06   title pages that have that the title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/426">TS</a>]

00:07:09   pages have like the little love you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/429">TS</a>]

00:07:11   the circles and circles that resembles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/431">TS</a>]

00:07:14   my little circles up and I found myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/434">TS</a>]

00:07:16   flipping back and forth to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/436">TS</a>]

00:07:18   okay this is what symbol is this what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/438">TS</a>]

00:07:20   this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/440">TS</a>]

00:07:21   I'm trying to match up with characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/441">TS</a>]

00:07:22   and anyway my mother and I pulled out my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/442">TS</a>]

00:07:24   phone and began googling for annotations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/444">TS</a>]

00:07:27   and Tumblr posts and things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/447">TS</a>]

00:07:28   because it's so it's so deep that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/448">TS</a>]

00:07:31   on my second read through I i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/451">TS</a>]

00:07:33   reading picture the graphic the trades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/453">TS</a>]

00:07:35   and I had my phone with Wikipedia open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/455">TS</a>]

00:07:37   to look up like all the good God names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/457">TS</a>]

00:07:39   because I was like there's clearly stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/459">TS</a>]

00:07:41   in here that maybe I'm supposed to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/461">TS</a>]

00:07:43   that like where these characters in are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/463">TS</a>]

00:07:45   getting and I am NOT getting and i'm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/465">TS</a>]

00:07:47   glad you brought up Sandman too because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/467">TS</a>]

00:07:49   it was like that like the first time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/469">TS</a>]

00:07:50   read Sandman you can read it by itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/470">TS</a>]

00:07:52   like this is pretty cool and then you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/472">TS</a>]

00:07:54   back and you read it with annotations or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/474">TS</a>]

00:07:56   with knowledge of all the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/476">TS</a>]

00:07:57   he's bringing in the mythology that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59   begun to reference even casually and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/479">TS</a>]

00:08:00   throw away and I like what stance and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/480">TS</a>]

00:08:03   men like oh my god the depth and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/483">TS</a>]

00:08:05   thought that went into that and this has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/485">TS</a>]

00:08:08   a really similar field because as it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/488">TS</a>]

00:08:10   you're going through the beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/490">TS</a>]

00:08:11   beautiful art to see you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/491">TS</a>]

00:08:13   character they've chosen to make look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/493">TS</a>]

00:08:14   like Rihanna Rihanna the one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/494">TS</a>]

00:08:16   they've chosen to make a David Bowie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/496">TS</a>]

00:08:17   prestige the one they've chosen as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/497">TS</a>]

00:08:20   Tory a MOS knock off you know and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/500">TS</a>]

00:08:26   you figure okay this all the baggage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/506">TS</a>]

00:08:27   that those pop stars bring into it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/507">TS</a>]

00:08:29   then you combine it with the daddies are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31   supposed to represent and it's just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/511">TS</a>]

00:08:34   smart and uh huh yeah that's a good word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/514">TS</a>]

00:08:37   now to be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/517">TS</a>]

00:08:38   I think they give us just enough in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/518">TS</a>]

00:08:41   story without annotations I mean you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/521">TS</a>]

00:08:44   just enough to at least you can sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/524">TS</a>]

00:08:47   place what's going on and they try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/527">TS</a>]

00:08:49   make the connections for you as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/529">TS</a>]

00:08:50   like you know certain deities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/530">TS</a>]

00:08:51   representing certain concepts that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/531">TS</a>]

00:08:54   important to the mystery for example but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56   yeah if we have you read it through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/536">TS</a>]

00:08:59   first time and then go back the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/539">TS</a>]

00:09:00   time with some kind of support some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/540">TS</a>]

00:09:03   of research it really it really does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/543">TS</a>]

00:09:06   make it a lot better this book series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/546">TS</a>]

00:09:08   also strikes me as sort of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/548">TS</a>]

00:09:11   side of the coin to the other series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/551">TS</a>]

00:09:13   that mckelvey and and killing have done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/553">TS</a>]

00:09:16   which is phonogram and the premise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/556">TS</a>]

00:09:19   behind that series is that there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/559">TS</a>]

00:09:21   group of formerly young people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/561">TS</a>]

00:09:23   brands a formal young people because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/563">TS</a>]

00:09:25   they were young during the Britpop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/565">TS</a>]

00:09:27   explosion of the nineties and during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/567">TS</a>]

00:09:29   that period they discovered that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/569">TS</a>]

00:09:30   were photo mancers I people who could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/570">TS</a>]

00:09:32   use magic if they tapped into music in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/572">TS</a>]

00:09:34   very specific way and there's and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/574">TS</a>]

00:09:38   phonogram talks about music as a way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/578">TS</a>]

00:09:41   channeling the divine in changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/581">TS</a>]

00:09:43   reality and this series is about fandom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/583">TS</a>]

00:09:46   as a way of being changed by the divine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/586">TS</a>]

00:09:49   and then going out and changing reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/589">TS</a>]

00:09:51   around you and I thought okay there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/591">TS</a>]

00:09:53   there minding the same time attic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55   territory they're just coming out from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/595">TS</a>]

00:09:56   completely different angle and so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/596">TS</a>]

00:09:57   kind of enjoyable to read the series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59   back to back to to take a look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/599">TS</a>]

00:10:01   different approaches and see what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/601">TS</a>]

00:10:03   same which is that the creators of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/603">TS</a>]

00:10:05   unshakable conviction that music is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/605">TS</a>]

00:10:07   really a force above and beyond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/607">TS</a>]

00:10:09   it may be created or channel by humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/609">TS</a>]

00:10:11   but they seem to regard music is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/611">TS</a>]

00:10:12   something that like exists its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/612">TS</a>]

00:10:14   separate almost magical entity and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/614">TS</a>]

00:10:17   they take the reactions that people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/617">TS</a>]

00:10:19   to music very very seriously like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/619">TS</a>]

00:10:22   really get the idea of what it means to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/622">TS</a>]

00:10:25   lose yourself in a creative work and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/625">TS</a>]

00:10:27   find yourself in the process of losing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/627">TS</a>]

00:10:29   yourself and and I really enjoy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/629">TS</a>]

00:10:31   about this both this book and phonogram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/631">TS</a>]

00:10:33   let's take a brief break to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/633">TS</a>]

00:10:35   something that's not in the pantheon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/635">TS</a>]

00:10:37   although maybe it's in my personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/637">TS</a>]

00:10:38   pantheon because I sleep on it every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/638">TS</a>]

00:10:40   night it's casper mattresses yes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/640">TS</a>]

00:10:42   guessed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/642">TS</a>]

00:10:43   casper mattresses are obsessively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/643">TS</a>]

00:10:44   engineered american-made mattresses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/644">TS</a>]

00:10:46   they're available shockingly fair price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/646">TS</a>]

00:10:48   and now you can get fifty dollars off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/648">TS</a>]

00:10:51   any mattress purchase by going to Casper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/651">TS</a>]

00:10:53   calm / smell and using code smell that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/653">TS</a>]

00:10:57   check out we all spend about a third of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/657">TS</a>]

00:10:59   our lives sleeping some a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/659">TS</a>]

00:11:01   less some little bit more but really you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/661">TS</a>]

00:11:03   would go insane if you didn't sleep so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/663">TS</a>]

00:11:06   let's make sure you sleep on a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/666">TS</a>]

00:11:08   mattress so that you feel refreshed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/668">TS</a>]

00:11:10   active in the morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/670">TS</a>]

00:11:12   Casper has two different technologies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14   that they put together for better nights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/674">TS</a>]

00:11:15   and brighter days there's a latex foam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/675">TS</a>]

00:11:17   and memory foam latex foam gives it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/677">TS</a>]

00:11:19   really pleasant feeling on the top and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/679">TS</a>]

00:11:23   memory foam you've got support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/683">TS</a>]

00:11:25   underneath they call it just the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/685">TS</a>]

00:11:26   thing just the right balance my old bed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/686">TS</a>]

00:11:28   felt like a trampoline I'd sit on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/688">TS</a>]

00:11:29   macat would be ejected from the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/689">TS</a>]

00:11:31   side of the bed this new bed it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/691">TS</a>]

00:11:33   really nice i've been using it for more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/693">TS</a>]

00:11:35   than a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/695">TS</a>]

00:11:36   it's a Casper mattress and it is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/696">TS</a>]

00:11:38   great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/698">TS</a>]

00:11:39   they've got a risk-free trial and return [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/699">TS</a>]

00:11:40   policy so if you don't like it I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/700">TS</a>]

00:11:42   imagine that but if you don't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/702">TS</a>]

00:11:44   you basically say hey Casper take this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/704">TS</a>]

00:11:46   away and they give you your money back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/706">TS</a>]

00:11:47   and you can do that not just for a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/707">TS</a>]

00:11:49   or a month but for up to a hundred days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/709">TS</a>]

00:11:52   and it comes to you in a box it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/712">TS</a>]

00:11:54   delivered straight to your door from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/714">TS</a>]

00:11:55   from I think it's ups doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/715">TS</a>]

00:11:58   matter a partial service delivery person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/718">TS</a>]

00:12:00   will bring it to your door you open it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/720">TS</a>]

00:12:01   up it expands to its full size and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/721">TS</a>]

00:12:04   you don't like it you can send it back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/724">TS</a>]

00:12:05   they will take it away at a store you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/725">TS</a>]

00:12:07   might lay down for a minute or two and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/727">TS</a>]

00:12:09   salesperson will come over and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/729">TS</a>]

00:12:10   here's a sucker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/730">TS</a>]

00:12:11   I mean hello sir how can I help you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/731">TS</a>]

00:12:14   and/or hello ma'am how can I help you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/734">TS</a>]

00:12:17   and regardless you are laying there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/737">TS</a>]

00:12:18   thinking is this comfortable i have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/738">TS</a>]

00:12:21   idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/741">TS</a>]

00:12:21   can I lay here for eight hours no well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/741">TS</a>]

00:12:23   I'll give it a try it's not fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/743">TS</a>]

00:12:25   what I'm saying is I hate going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/745">TS</a>]

00:12:27   mattress stores the Casper you get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/747">TS</a>]

00:12:29   sleep on it literally sleep on it five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/749">TS</a>]

00:12:31   hundred dollars for a twin up to 9 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/751">TS</a>]

00:12:33   for a king compared to industry averages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/753">TS</a>]

00:12:35   that's actually an outstanding price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/755">TS</a>]

00:12:37   point and you can get fifty dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/757">TS</a>]

00:12:38   toward any mattress purchase by going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/758">TS</a>]

00:12:40   Casper calm / smell and using code smell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/760">TS</a>]

00:12:43   at checkout terms and conditions apply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/763">TS</a>]

00:12:45   thank you to catch her for sponsoring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/765">TS</a>]

00:12:47   being comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/767">TS</a>]

00:12:48   well there's a lot here we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/768">TS</a>]

00:12:50   probably blow the spoiler horn and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/770">TS</a>]

00:12:52   into it in more detail gonna we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/772">TS</a>]

00:12:54   we're going to do that right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/774">TS</a>]

00:13:00   spoiler horn probably a reference in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/780">TS</a>]

00:13:03   some way to David Bowie because it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/783">TS</a>]

00:13:06   isn't everything Lucifer is definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/786">TS</a>]

00:13:08   the thin white duke David Bowie and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/788">TS</a>]

00:13:10   read after David Bowie died i read an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/790">TS</a>]

00:13:11   interview where they said that they at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/791">TS</a>]

00:13:13   one point considered having all 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/793">TS</a>]

00:13:15   members of the Pantheon be different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/795">TS</a>]

00:13:17   aspects of David Bowie because they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/797">TS</a>]

00:13:19   they could totally have done it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/799">TS</a>]

00:13:21   wow it's they went another way but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/801">TS</a>]

00:13:25   Lucifer is definitely David Bowie so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/805">TS</a>]

00:13:29   yeah this is funny that you mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/809">TS</a>]

00:13:31   the annotations and all that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/811">TS</a>]

00:13:32   this is this is the first book in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/812">TS</a>]

00:13:33   while where I felt like I was reminded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/813">TS</a>]

00:13:36   of when i read read watchmen and I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/816">TS</a>]

00:13:40   that that is it's almost tired to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42   that be a touchdown but that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/822">TS</a>]

00:13:43   first time I really read a comic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/823">TS</a>]

00:13:44   felt like I need to take notes and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/824">TS</a>]

00:13:47   wanted footnotes and I I knew that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/827">TS</a>]

00:13:50   were so many layers and that also I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/830">TS</a>]

00:13:53   was intrigued by the fact that there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/833">TS</a>]

00:13:55   a and continue telling there was a plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/835">TS</a>]

00:13:57   that was going to drag me through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/837">TS</a>]

00:13:59   story and it might not even be the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/839">TS</a>]

00:14:01   of the story as much as it is and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/841">TS</a>]

00:14:03   much work of fiction as the you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/843">TS</a>]

00:14:06   the thing to drag drag me through from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/846">TS</a>]

00:14:09   the beginning to the end and so in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/849">TS</a>]

00:14:10   case ya in this case we get the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/850">TS</a>]

00:14:13   death of the the judge when Lucifer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/853">TS</a>]

00:14:17   snaps fingers and she's blame for it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/857">TS</a>]

00:14:20   says she didn't do it and it's a godly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/860">TS</a>]

00:14:22   act so some other one of the gods must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/862">TS</a>]

00:14:25   have done it and she's put in jail and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/865">TS</a>]

00:14:27   it it leads to it at a chain of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/867">TS</a>]

00:14:29   unfortunate events and creates this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/869">TS</a>]

00:14:32   mystery i'm and and also there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/872">TS</a>]

00:14:34   mystery of who the rest of the members [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/874">TS</a>]

00:14:36   of the Pantheon are some of them died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/876">TS</a>]

00:14:38   some of them haven't yet been revealed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/878">TS</a>]

00:14:40   and so there's that mystery happening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/880">TS</a>]

00:14:42   my even like that there's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/882">TS</a>]

00:14:44   little mysteries about like we know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/884">TS</a>]

00:14:46   this is this this member of the Pantheon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/886">TS</a>]

00:14:48   is this God but which version of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/888">TS</a>]

00:14:50   God is right ball followed the question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/890">TS</a>]

00:14:53   which ball ball which one are you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/893">TS</a>]

00:14:55   he's like i identify with this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/895">TS</a>]

00:14:57   enough that wide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/897">TS</a>]

00:14:58   maybe Bob who is sort of Kanye West's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/898">TS</a>]

00:15:01   kind of as a path to say except except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/901">TS</a>]

00:15:03   for David Bowie all the other pop music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/903">TS</a>]

00:15:06   references are completely lost on me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/906">TS</a>]

00:15:08   well well this Prince there's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/908">TS</a>]

00:15:09   who looks exactly like prince who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/909">TS</a>]

00:15:11   yeah highness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/911">TS</a>]

00:15:12   yeah okay yeah we um the wooden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/912">TS</a>]

00:15:15   character is sort of the doctor okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/915">TS</a>]

00:15:18   yeah he's one of the Deaf bugs and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/918">TS</a>]

00:15:22   read that the Emirati was actually sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/922">TS</a>]

00:15:24   of lawrence somewhere between florence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/924">TS</a>]

00:15:26   welch and Stevie Nicks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/926">TS</a>]

00:15:28   oh so you have a good point there I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/928">TS</a>]

00:15:30   had identified her as a Tori Amos sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/930">TS</a>]

00:15:33   of character because of the great hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/933">TS</a>]

00:15:35   the long red hair and the the abandoned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/935">TS</a>]

00:15:37   with what she finds herself around on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/937">TS</a>]

00:15:38   stage but I think Stevie Nicks is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/938">TS</a>]

00:15:41   another although personally I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/941">TS</a>]

00:15:43   Stevie Nicks should be out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/943">TS</a>]

00:15:44   Pantheon because she's a law unto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/944">TS</a>]

00:15:45   herself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/945">TS</a>]

00:15:46   ok but yeah but ok there were 31 more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/946">TS</a>]

00:15:53   the rave dude the one who has my list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/953">TS</a>]

00:15:57   yes Dionysus who has been alone inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/957">TS</a>]

00:15:58   his head for is emo be lets say yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/958">TS</a>]

00:16:01   thanks hehe look very young mobile yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/961">TS</a>]

00:16:03   yeah that's looking at school care using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/963">TS</a>]

00:16:05   up one of the joys and this is is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/965">TS</a>]

00:16:07   seeing these gods put in in these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/967">TS</a>]

00:16:10   putting putting a modern context and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/970">TS</a>]

00:16:12   also the idea that if you had gods in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/972">TS</a>]

00:16:14   the modern world they would be stars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/974">TS</a>]

00:16:17   like literally there's a convention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/977">TS</a>]

00:16:19   celebrating you and everything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/979">TS</a>]

00:16:22   they're stars the fandemonium that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/982">TS</a>]

00:16:25   fancy on right in San involved to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/985">TS</a>]

00:16:28   and so that's so great that you get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/988">TS</a>]

00:16:30   idea that if God's God's in a modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/990">TS</a>]

00:16:32   context for rock stars so i guess the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/992">TS</a>]

00:16:33   reverse would be true that we treat rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/993">TS</a>]

00:16:35   stars like gods but here it's literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/995">TS</a>]

00:16:37   the gods are wrong stars enjoy that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/997">TS</a>]

00:16:40   Norns our golf like they're even work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:42   often the Morrigan yes yes with ragnarok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:47   roc a because it's a rock concert you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:50   see huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:53   it's it's such it's such a pretty booked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:57   like you said it reminds me almost of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:58   the needle paintings of the nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1018">TS</a>]

00:16:59   eighties and one of those on the cup and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:01   why does it was a cover for for real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:03   which was one of the first albums i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05   bought with my own money so i have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:06   inextricable music artists och [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:09   it's so smart um I love the the multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:15   mysteries that are unfolding around it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:17   I i wish that they would kind of explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:21   more about the mechanisms of fandom like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:22   how do these kids keep finding these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:24   music happenings are you know is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:26   through text is it through through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28   bulletin boards it through word-of-mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:30   like there's like an undercurrent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:32   social media technology happening but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:35   it's not really as much to the forefront [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:37   as it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:38   yeah and that's that's a good point so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:40   what do we think about the SR main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:42   character is not one of the is not one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:45   of the gods or is she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:48   and it is is Laura she's she's a fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:51   the Pantheon and she becomes kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:54   swept up in the inner workings of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:56   Pantheon she kinda guessed she used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:59   be like a b-list celebrity in the yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:01   she's sort of like Kim Kardashian in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:03   paris hilton day yeah yeah yeah so she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:06   she gets swept up into this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:08   befriends Lucifer which is important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:09   because then when when Lucy is accused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:12   of blowing up the the judges head and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:14   all of that she becomes a key witness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:18   essentially 22 Lucifer's escape and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:21   there's the suggestion that Lucifer sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:24   of left something behind for her after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:27   we did we didn't mention there's uh what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:31   is a non k who is the who is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:33   like the old she liked the Krone who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:36   also like the controller of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:37   and-and-and-and-and watcher for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:41   college thing into being right she calls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:44   them into being and then the way this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:46   series begins in the very first few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:48   panels of the very first issue use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:51   well actually the very first time for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:53   few first issue but like right beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:55   there's that the whole scene where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:58   incarnations from the 1920s the Jazz Age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:02   yeah which is another moment of cultural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:04   people were there are there's this table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:07   there are eight schools one of which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:09   in a dreadful state which is just a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:11   violent data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:12   yeah and then there are four of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14   left and i found myself trying to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:16   out like who was who because we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:18   that one of them was I'm they even give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:20   you a circle for the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:22   with different icons then we get in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:24   modern yawns like we know one of them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:26   Minerva just because the ike the out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:28   like on a similar and one of them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:30   Susanoo who is you know Japanese God who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:33   by the way was also featured in Sandman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:35   but like we don't get we don't get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:39   neat one-to-one match up and I found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:41   myself wondering why these for how did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:43   she get them in one place and how does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:45   she manage to coerce them into killing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:47   themselves and so when you start with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:49   something like that and then you move to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:51   end these are pop stars with built-in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:52   expiration dates it gets like I love a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:57   good mr. like that because i just wanna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:58   find out why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1198">TS</a>]

00:19:59   like how does she accept this whole what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:01   why do they agree to this what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:03   if a God fights back do you ever find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:04   out right because when we see the gods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:07   from the twenties the last thing they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:08   is the three surviving member snap their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:10   fingers in their building there in blows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:12   up so the implication there is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:14   their wings you're not going to live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:16   past two years the the you could read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:19   that as being you know they will expire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:21   naturally or something but that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:23   what we see we see them a lot of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:26   are already dead and then the last three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:27   basically blow themselves up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:29   yeah for that was for that was more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:31   12 tonight for ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:34   what 21 to 34 so that you've got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:36   fourth they've got the 44 beat authority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:38   starting with sort of procedures rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40   and roll when you think about it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:41   know Dionysus Israel later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43   yeah and I don't know how accurate this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:45   is this was on wikia some peeps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:48   somebody started constructing wicked in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:50   divine annotations there they identified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:53   the african-american in the twenties as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:56   another ball and then the white-faced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:59   girl with the mask is another otsuka the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:02   makeup is a bit similar so we're Lord so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:05   we're looking at because the demand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:07   Susanoo based on the a light so parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:09   apparently your summer reruns and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:11   there's sometimes no one's get in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:13   mix and so yes that the the flapper is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:15   Minerva and it's worth noting that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:17   this incarnation this Minerva is dressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:19   like one of the Beatles and she's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:22   12 years old also worth mentioning is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:25   that Lucifer which is not Lucifer was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:27   actually and eleanor rigby yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:29   because her parents were major beatles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:31   fans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:32   yeah yeah they're they're so I mean I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:35   mentioned an Aikido is too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:36   say that in the end I what happens is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:41   that Laura is left with this sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:42   like trace of Lucifer and wants to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:45   what happened to Lucifer because a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:47   non-key catches up with her after she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:48   broken out of jail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:49   and-and-and-and blows her head off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:52   so the mystery suddenly transforms into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:54   not who set up Lucifer but really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:57   who like setup Lucifer and led to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1317">TS</a>]

00:22:00   death and then that since Laura on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:02   kind of interesting journey it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04   like a I don't know how to describe it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:07   think there's a word for it in fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:09   but it is she's taking a journey it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:11   little bit like it's a little bit like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:12   almost like the odyssey or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:14   like candied where she is she's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:16   traveling through the circles of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:18   bizarre things that are happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:19   culturally around all these different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:22   gods as she is trying to gather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:24   information about what's going on which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:26   i think is a really cool way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:27   introduce us because we're throwing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:29   without much of a map and then and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:31   she does lead us through she gets in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:34   this very special position where she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:35   gets access than a normal person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:37   wouldn't and then starts to learn about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:39   what the is going on with the Pantheon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:41   and what's interesting about the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:43   access thing is she also has a frenemy i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:47   guess you'd say Cassandra who's the jerk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49   who's the journalist the skeptical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51   journalist names who's sort of angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:56   about the access that fans get compared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:58   to journalists and has a real chip on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1378">TS</a>]

00:22:59   her shoulder until Medicaid decides to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:02   20 your oh you're a loser and earlier or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:05   murder because I i know the D is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:07   actually brown stuff from Wales English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:09   anyway she's one of the Norns and her to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:11   cameraman get turned camera ladies get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:13   turned into the other Norns and part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:16   me is wondering if comic con que can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:19   strategically deploy and defended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:22   deployed divinity where it suits her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:24   long her her long-term needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:27   yeah that's kind of opened a question I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:29   think I don't know if later episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:30   later issues will clarify that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:33   on the one hand it does feel like she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:36   you know able to sort of pick and choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:38   we have the bit where Mary Marion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:42   becomes the more again and then is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:44   an Cameron come can Cameron come to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:48   wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:49   this bathroom it but on the other hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:50   what she says to Cassandra sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:52   implies that she's got to like sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:54   hunt and discover them right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:56   mm what I'm wondering about is if these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:59   divinities come through or she's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:00   okay you have a combination of traits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:02   that that can-can are our divinity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:05   compatible and here you go because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:08   event that ends the second book and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:10   realize we've done the spoiler horn but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:12   the event that is the second book with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:13   first she I'm so here you are in she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:17   basically indulges in a wish fulfillment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:20   exercise and then a murder and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:23   to myself did you do that to disarm this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:26   person or this divinity on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:29   her actions are very opaque and very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:32   strategic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:32   yeah it puts a lot of especially because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:34   she's kind of one of the like sources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:37   for a lot of like the rules of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:39   yeah and then those actions in that last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:41   issue it's like well how much of what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:44   were told you I still a hundred percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:45   right believe right yeah i mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:48   this on when i mentioned i was reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:49   this in our last comic book club that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51   feel like the ending of of the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:55   trade is a brilliant cliffhanger because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:58   in those last few pages what happens the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:01   entire premise is called into question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:03   about how that happens you did this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:05   character who have been sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:06   introduced to suggest you know she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:08   kind of creepy but she sort of like has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:10   a lot of knowledge she drops enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:13   knowledge for you to make you question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:15   exactly what her role is here and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:18   main character is who we've established [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:20   is not actually one of the Pantheon is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:24   told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:24   oh no you actually are the 13th member [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:26   of the Pantheon and then is murdered so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:29   you've lost use the main character the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:32   entire premises questioned and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:34   the end of the second trade it's a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:36   shot great ending but it's certainly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:38   great cliffhanger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:39   I also son is really slice of version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:42   the Mary Sue trope as it were because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:45   you have a fan who is so involved and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:47   yeah this world is such wish fulfillment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:49   and then when they finally do get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:51   become the minute they remember their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:52   fandom boom they're killed by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:54   creator and I was funny because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:58   chip-chip warned me he actually read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1558">TS</a>]

00:25:59   this before I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:01   and he had it on his iPad and is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:03   shining ipad pro and he told me before i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:07   started reading okay you cannot go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:10   george RR martin on this and throw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:12   ipad against the wall when Josh don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:14   know you've been and to be frank I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:17   didn't feel like doing that i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19   speculations since the chosen goddess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:23   identity for laura is Persephone and 470 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:27   sort of has a cycle thing going on so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:29   you know I I didn't immediately feel the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:32   same way as I did with Martin when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:34   actually didn't have to deal with Martin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36   killing off characters even though i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:37   love how he will do that kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:40   it was because the second shoe that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:44   first she was like in the first pages of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:46   the first book and it took three books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:47   to get to the second shoe and that's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:49   long but that's totally off topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:51   sorry mo but yeah but I was not as upset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:56   as chip expected me to be reading that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:58   and there are things that I really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:00   and things that are important to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:01   seemed to be important to you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:04   team like a like I'm glad I mean I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:08   have been kinda cool to see all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:09   Gods is different iterations of bowie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11   but I'm glad that they went another way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13   and that they've got you know different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:16   genders and different races and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:17   different you know they've got a a gay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:19   character there's a transgender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:21   character like and it's not a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:23   like when Cassandra is revealed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:25   trans it's just like and you know Lucy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:29   like oh I said this thing to hurt you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:30   and she's like it did and that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:32   it's not about my god and I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:35   really loved that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:36   yeah that's a real big strength to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:38   books in my opinion and my trans friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:41   love it and i absolutely love it so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:44   not and I feel confident and like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:46   this is representation done right and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:49   that can do it gives me more motivation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:51   to continue reading to you know it's um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:53   I i think it's hot it's a hard read i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:57   would six against for somebody for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1677">TS</a>]

00:27:59   somebody i was thinking about you while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:00   I was reading it because because moline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:02   because as a relatively new comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:04   reader it is dense it is that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:06   kept coming back to watch men is it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:08   the same thing where I feel like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:10   time I read it i'm noticing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:12   different and that's definitely how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:13   was the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:14   billion times i read watchmen where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:16   there's what's the other the words on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:18   the page and then there's the art and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:19   then there's the things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:20   embedded in the art and they actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:22   mean something they're not just there to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:25   make a pretty background they are things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:27   that will take you to interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:29   shadings of meaning of the story if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:31   were looking at them so it really it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:35   survives multiple readings and in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:37   almost demands multiple readings and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:40   if that does make it dents and it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:42   it isn't very welcoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:44   i would say you suit sort of have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46   with it and hope hope to catch up later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:48   and admitting that I think it attaches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:51   to the plot to where Laura until she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:54   kind of falls all the way in and get at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:57   and you get your bearings a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:59   which of course is swept away from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:00   at the end of volume to it you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:03   are you are lost in the world because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:05   she doesn't have enough information and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:07   she's really are members into our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:08   representative in this world so it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:10   tough night I mean it's it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:12   challenging and dense you know in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:14   that I'm not a lot of comics that ivory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:16   actually I feel like I hadn't been kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:18   of challenge this way by a comment on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:20   long time I was kind of having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:22   reminders of when I used to reach a ton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:24   of vertigo stuff and it really helped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:26   like that but matically and density [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:29   I you know one of my favorite comics is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:31   a hundred bullets and every time a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:34   volume would come out i would reread all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:36   the previous volume again in preparation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:39   for reading it so like I've read volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:40   one of a hundred bullets more than 13 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42   times because they're 13 right and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:46   that's a comic I love it's not a comic I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:47   recommend to a lot of people because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:49   don't think it has broad appeal but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:50   a super-dense um but I mean it's nice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:54   be challenged by but it was also like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:56   this is this is an unfamiliar feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:58   like I don't know if I dislike this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1798">TS</a>]

00:29:59   this is you know this isn't something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:01   comics have really pushed on me in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:02   while you're right that this is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:04   vertical feeling read though because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:07   is it celebrates it celebrates the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:09   culture that is not necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:11   mainstream and that culture has its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:12   rules and its own rewards and it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:16   the argument that people who are called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:18   people who choose that culture are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:20   inherently worthy of you no interest in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:22   love and respect and all those other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:24   things as well they're not just people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:25   who look weird have strange interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:27   really like and like I mean in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:29   it's it like there's some stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:31   going back likes that's in that Sandman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:33   didn't stories that was kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:34   revolutionary this time that feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:37   you know some of it is great and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:39   doesn't still holds up and some of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:40   like kind of very dated in terms of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:42   the society in terms of when it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:44   written so it's nice to see something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:45   you know that's that's taking on some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:47   those those attitudes that you know in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49   more modern way right and my style for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:53   reading comic books because I'm a I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:55   reader first and foremost rate is I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:57   through and I read the words and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:58   go through a second time and I i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:00   the words and look at the art and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:02   not a very patient reader just so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:06   think that was i I actually don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:10   how much the art helps in like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:13   conceptual things and as you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:16   along but and it's I mean it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:20   definitely add depth to the story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:23   but yeah i was i was confused a lot that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:28   yes i have really make their points when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:30   I was confused and had to reread a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:32   couple of pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:33   yeah yeah and i think i'm still confused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:35   yeah together certainly things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:37   still need to be answered together and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:38   think you know some of that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:40   you're supposed to be confused some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:41   it I don't know but I mean depends on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:44   stick the landing right yeah yeah we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:46   should say that they they have said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:48   this is there is a story the this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:51   closed-ended somewhere between 30 and 60 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:54   issues you know I think that's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56   professional comics professionals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:58   admitting that the story can sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:00   get away from you a little bit mob or it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:03   becomes unprofitable one of those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:05   approaching it with the stress in ski [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:06   method yeah exactly right we got no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:08   wheels will spread our the middle and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:11   end or contracting as nice as we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:14   Oh God releases thinking of the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:17   terrace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:19   oh so what people think of the of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:23   i'm going to ask about the sex and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:26   going to ask about the gore so let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:27   start with the gore what what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:29   feel about the heads exploding and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:32   neck with without a head on it and on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:36   the cover of the last issue of vol.2 too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:40   much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:40   not part of that part of the story I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:43   thought it was I noticed that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:45   kind of unflinching and its depiction of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:47   people getting stuff blown-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:49   unflinching yes but this this is where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:53   think Mack all these art helps it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:58   least personally for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:00   um I did not think it was nearly as gory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:04   as it genuinely was because the art is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:07   so clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:08   the art is so smooth it did not it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:12   not bother me as much as it might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14   say somebody actually filming this or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:17   another person style of art might do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:20   um so yeah that the gore did not bother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:22   me nearly as much as it could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:24   yeah I I kind of agree i we have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:27   watching the clone wars and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:30   there have been things that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:31   bothered me more in the Clone Wars then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33   like seeing someone's head explode and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:36   the panel where the judges had exploded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:38   as a little like that yeah I was behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:40   I'm like I maybe could have done without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:43   that but it's not a realistic thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:46   it's my that it's its stylized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:50   yeah if it were more like like The [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:52   Walking Dead sometimes when i read i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:54   have trouble looking at some of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:56   panels and unfortunately it's not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:58   color so that helps a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:00   I had stopped reading the walking dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:02   because of the way they depicted a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:03   of the stuff we actually yeah I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:05   it'sit's graphic and it's gritty I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07   trying to remember now i can't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:08   the name of the series that's American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:11   vampire you been stealing your whining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:14   love this story but some of the art I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:16   was just like who don't miss the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:19   walking dead i would i would say was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:22   when it's ugly it's like it when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:25   was graphic it's ugly and women in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:27   divine is not something I would ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:29   call ugly even when it's wrong laughing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:31   it's sort of beautifully graphic but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:34   still can be gross and unpleasant and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:36   they're definitely panels in this that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:37   that I find kind of yucky but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:40   doesn't mean that I don't think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:42   they're beautifully rendered in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:44   that that the walking dead you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:46   was gross stuff render dug in an ugly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:48   way I thought a lot of the time now i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:51   should add that to my all-time favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:53   series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:54   are the authority and preacher oh so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:58   so my tolerance for how much gore is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2098">TS</a>]

00:35:03   acceptable in a comic book me a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:06   maybe a little bit hot wire for the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:08   of this but um I think in the context of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:15   this book the gore is shocking because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:18   I'm the art is so beautiful and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:22   not a particularly gritty world you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:25   I mean even when you're in Subway's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:27   is still like you're focusing on how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:30   beautifully composed each panel is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32   how like there's a lot of that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:35   they do a lot of visual imagery that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:36   weighs on some very romantic notions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:39   what it's like to be in a train station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:40   what it's like to be in a darkened and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:42   empty public space and so because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:46   so beautiful and so meticulously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:48   composed and so romantic that it's feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:52   jarring when you do see like a headless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54   stuff neck because like oh I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:56   recall that in any of the millions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:59   rock videos i mean line on MTV or any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:02   the tumblers I follow or anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:03   that just like oh you know whereas like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:06   if I saw a shot like this authority I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:08   be like well Frank Quitely is going easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10   on us this month so that's our what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:16   about the what about this sort of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:18   not just sex but but all of the section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:22   hedonism this is about God's and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:24   Pantheon and famously you know I mean we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:27   we have Dionysus in here for pete's sake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:29   right with their there so I'm curious i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:31   really i also want to mention in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:33   particular the rave issue which is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:38   all bright colors and laura gets really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:43   kind of candy car caught up in it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:45   it's terrifying ultimately but but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:48   very interesting in a in a different way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:51   there's also a scene that we see very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:54   briefly of a of an orgy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:56   that's being put on by one of the Gods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:59   to so i'm just i'm curious what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:00   what people think about how that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:02   is portrayed in this if you've got any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:03   thoughts about that i partly because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:06   think so early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:07   on its kind of established that one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:10   the things that these reincarnated gods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:12   are doing is having all the sex all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:15   time that that it didn't surprise me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:19   therefore I was just I kept reading I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:23   don't remember being phased by by it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:26   terribly much mean they're teenagers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:28   with two years to live there was sex is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:30   consensual and I'm a lot less bothered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:32   by that I was by the first by one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:35   first few instances of sex is on Sandman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:37   for example where it's much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39   disturbing especially the 24 hours in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41   the diner episode issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:43   yeah oh yeah he's like oh my god yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:47   yeah yeah I'm you know you know and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:50   sex drugs and rock and roll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52   yeah i mean that that's definitely the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:55   theme here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:56   no I mean I think the thing that bothers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:57   me more than anything else if i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:59   to read is is the the creeping more to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:02   is the fact that you have a god that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:05   people are fighting who is a 12 year old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:07   child and everybody is is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:09   ignoring the fact that she's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:10   dead before she's 15 and interrupting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:13   her parents are rope making as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:14   money as possible or their hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16   dollars you get a personal blessing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:17   member yeah it's but I get the the her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:19   fellow gods are protective of her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:22   yeah i think there's one taking care of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:24   his best again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:25   yeah and she's aware that's the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:27   thing we hear from her and she's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:29   know in and as they take Laura back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:33   kinda meet some of these gods when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:35   Lucy's in jail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:36   she's like I'm gonna be dead before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:38   know what I'm 14 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:39   you don't like the first first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:41   introduction we get to her those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:43   some of the first words out of her mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:45   yeah that's the interesting thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:48   this setup right is that the idea is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:50   that there are people but they're also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:51   gods and there's that duality there in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:53   the cod portion of them with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:55   unclear right whether they're always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:57   gods and just are wide awake into it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2337">TS</a>]

00:38:59   whether they're there or is this more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:01   sinister where they are sort of chosen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:03   and the God essence is going to pour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:05   into them and print them out after two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:06   years the gods are immortal and they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:09   come back in 90 years but those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:11   in this lion are gone and do do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:14   have the ability to steal years from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:16   each other do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:18   yeah well the that this is the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:20   I'm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:21   guys we haven't seen the phrase human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:22   sacrifice put into context yet because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:24   that's what these children effectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:26   are is they're human sacrifices to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:29   notion that the divinity is supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:31   touch everybody around them and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:34   how the world gets changes people come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:35   away from their experience with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:36   ground changed it ripples out one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:41   things we're talking about now I promise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:43   this is not spoiler but one of the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:45   the things you're talking about with out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:47   whether or not these people are like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:50   effect of being a god on the person like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:52   there's a there's an issue in the third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:54   trade that goes into that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:55   excruciating detail and it's a beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:57   and horrible issue help the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2397">TS</a>]

00:39:59   and like I had to go right I i had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:01   like put down that the book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:02   decompress after reading it but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:04   like oh my god this is so smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:06   let's hide it so you won't have that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:10   look forward to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:10   i guess.i guess well we'll get there i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:13   wanted i want to mention i thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:15   was really interesting but the at the at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:19   the convention there is a panel that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:22   former girlfriend of Woden is on MH and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:26   he walks in and basically tempts her to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:30   come back into his circle and is it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:34   she has to admit that everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:35   terrible she's saying about him is a lie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:37   and then he and then he makes the his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:41   little pink suit thing evaporate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:44   walks out on her and that publicly yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:47   that's a really important is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:49   interesting characters here we don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:50   his face hehe implies that he's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:52   horribly horribly scarred and and can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:56   be right upon and he's also the one who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:59   is sort of like shamelessly just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:00   building a harem and wants to have sex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:03   with as many women as he can before he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:05   dies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:06   yeah again and plus he doesn't seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:08   be doing much in the way of performing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:10   he's like the Builder he's the one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:12   anon k comes to when he's helped me he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:16   helped do things but he's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:17   front-and-center the way some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:19   others are no it's just it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:22   interesting character and he does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:23   seem like a particularly pleasant person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:26   Ellen on any level but he is shiny and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:29   you know and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:31   I i mean i think yeah I i think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:34   that's interesting too that he is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:35   very notably interesting-looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:37   character kind of more traditional comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:40   booky looking than anybody else in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:43   pantheon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:44   but he's all he's kinda awful staff from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:48   he's very easy that daft punk where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:50   identity play as part of the mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:52   that goes with it but he's also don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:54   need submit yeah everybody hates him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:56   fearsome and they're fascinated by him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   yeah I dr. doom seen some more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:00   sense of humor about himself than this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:01   I suppose that's true it sounds very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:04   unpleasant but the horribly scarred and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:06   wearing a cool outdoor thing fits when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:08   you with that this this this series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:10   makes me wish I were more of a music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:12   nerd because i have a feeling if I were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:14   I would be just tripping out over what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:17   what the writers are saying about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:19   specific musicians with her choosing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:20   depict or what God through their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:22   choosing to to parent channel with at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:25   the same time I feel like I'm missing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:27   dimension of the book because I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:29   big into either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:31   well I mean I like music but i'm not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:32   huge music there and I don't have a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:33   of music insider lure gospel my back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:36   pocket and that's the one area where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:38   feel like I'm missing out on a facet of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40   this this experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:41   mm do you think it's intentional that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:43   like that that all the fan group seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:45   I mean not exclusively but are primarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:47   young people I wondered if that was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:51   like Laura's view on things or or some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53   kind of commentary there because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:55   my big question is like that we now are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:57   in a world where the gods come back but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2577">TS</a>]

00:42:59   like but everybody else is still like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:01   going to work and stuff it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:02   college kids who are like cutting class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:03   they bring that out a bit with some the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:06   character that one of the likely 200 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:09   viously one of the ranking rocks yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:11   this gentleman you know being all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:13   cynical about yeah you kids today are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:15   the kids today don't understand or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17   appreciate arm so you've got at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:21   one character voicing that kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23   and of course we know we've got a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:26   adults that show up whether it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:29   police officers or firemen or the those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:32   sort of people you know they're trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:34   to treat these kids as kids and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:36   somebody you know somebody finally tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:39   somebody else look the these these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:41   dangerous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:41   these are not within your experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:44   back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:44   off so you know even even Laura's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:48   parents it's like you know they're these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:49   like super well-meaning super supportive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:51   to the point where she's trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:54   repeal just to make them mad because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:56   they never get mad so yeah that it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2636">TS</a>]

00:44:00   seem extremely tightly focused on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:02   youth generation and and what adults are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:06   there are not very helpful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:09   it's like a nun case the most mother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:11   figure that prompted that pantheon has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:14   because you know every time one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:16   you want every time she wakes up one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:17   them I missed you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:19   and then when anyway I love you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:22   you're gonna die no more wire hangers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24   and I'm to know more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:26   this is this is for your own goal I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:30   think i was actually thinking fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:32   dynamic something Shannon said there i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:33   was reminded and Iago Erica's not here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:35   I'm gonna bring up doctor who only to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:37   say if you've got something like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39   where you've got people who are not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:41   kids of the of the current generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:43   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:44   obviously there's going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:45   subculture of the Pantheon that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:48   residue of the last appearance they made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:50   and although all the people from men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:51   have died out there is apparently enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:53   knowledge about this idea you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:56   cassandra is able to research it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:57   you know people who are just old enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2697">TS</a>]

00:45:00   of it right yeah their professors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:02   research previous you know the nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:04   twenties and earlier so but but when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:06   they appear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:07   it's like it's not for them it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:09   it's for the current generation and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:11   a new generation of fans essentially and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:14   i think i think that is something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:16   is touched on and in this at least a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:18   little bit is this idea that there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:19   schism between like you know yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:22   great that you studied this and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:24   but these are these are the new ones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:26   this is our this is our pop music that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:29   you know this is our fandom we you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:31   we're the ones who are here and that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:34   know your interests in the pantheon but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:35   you know you're not part of our group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:38   your euro notes that's the perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:40   metaphor for music I mean every every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:42   generation has the music that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:45   they grew up we know whether it's he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:48   knows that you 13 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:49   that's their music and later music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:52   business good this is a theme they mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:54   and phonogram to is it something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:57   this is like one of the center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:58   no promises a phonogram is as you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2758">TS</a>]

00:45:59   older your music loses the cultural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:02   power and the cultural currency it once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:04   had and you know this is why is it this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:08   is why I feel like you kind of have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:09   both but both books like either in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:11   conjunction with one another or one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:13   then the other is because phonogram is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:15   also about the magic of music and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:17   it's highly specific to certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:19   generations and certain societal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:21   conditions and I like honestly I like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:25   here that its young people because um it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:29   goes down to people who are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:31   teens and young adults using music as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:33   way to figure out who they are and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:35   forge their tribal identity and to forge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:37   their cultural identity and be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:38   say yeah this is when i turned into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:40   person with my own thoughts and likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:42   and dislikes and this is the soundtrack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:43   that listen to while i did it and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:45   idea of having a divinity that helps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:47   Midwife that process I think that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:48   really interesting idea and kind of wrap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:52   it and kind of radical i look forward to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:53   seeing you know that thing that I look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:56   forward to seeing as I'd love to see an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:57   issue where you have somebody who lived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:59   out the most of the span their lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:01   between the periods of divinities like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:03   do they feel like they've missed out or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:04   are they i was just going to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:05   radically different like what is what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:08   their experience a person had like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:09   compared to somebody who is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:12   through this in the UK which also raises [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:16   from another question like why is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:17   phenomenon just isolated to Britain is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:19   it because the the Raiders are good i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:21   don't think i think they make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:23   reference that pops up other places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:25   right does yes there's us there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:26   South American one and this one is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:30   is Skip sometimes that bothered me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:32   that it seemed to be focused so tightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:35   on not just England but London and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:37   know all of these divinities or in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:39   London and yeah there was that one brief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:41   mention about South America although if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:43   i remember correctly that was like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:45   one of the deities participating at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:48   point was from South America was from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:51   South American mythology but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:52   necessarily that that that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:56   phenomenon happened there so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:58   unclear to me and when we meet and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:02   one who looks like Prince and bad name's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:03   Donna and Donna yet so when we meet him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:07   and he talks about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:10   it's good to see you again Laura and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:12   she's like oh you remember me from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:14   know a couple months ago a couple weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:17   ago and he's like no I remember you from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:18   a year ago and at the at the conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:24   and she was angry instead of because one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:27   of the panelists at this panel she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:29   attending was going on about how great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:31   like this generation doesn't deserve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:34   this and maybe this will be one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:36   times where it skips a generation or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:38   maybe it'll be like somewhere else and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:40   and they mentioned like other I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:43   China and South America or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:45   so there's there's an allusion to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:48   being more and more widespread thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:52   not necessarily consistent thing either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:54   and I don't know what plays into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:56   I'm coming to pass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:58   i also don't know how much of this is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:00   is British comics culture in a way cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:03   you think about like I'm thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:05   the authority in the premise that every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:07   hundred years of the beginning of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:09   century the earth gives birth to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:10   quote-unquote century babies who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:13   performed the third immunity system with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:15   next 100 years and they are the spirits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:17   of the technology that will transform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:19   culture which is why you have Jenny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:21   sparks the beading 20th century and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:23   Jenny quantum the beginning 21st and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:25   this seems to be something that's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:27   not peculiar but I've noticed a lot with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:30   British comic writers is they do enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:33   cyclical themes and I don't know if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:34   because you get raised on a diet of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:36   Arthurian legends or what but this seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:39   to be part of it to where there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:41   whole implication that it's cyclical and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:42   it's a culture and it's paired with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:44   cultural upheaval and I don't think he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:48   I again I wonder if nationality plays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:50   into this and the reason why is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:52   largest is because we're approaching it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:54   from a really American perspective where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:56   you know the answer has always been one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:58   in doubt find a frontier as opposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:02   if you stay on this island long enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:04   Arthur will come back I've got a million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:08   hail from lots of British haha that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:12   while they're going to also tell us but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:13   we just completely missed all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:14   important British references that are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:16   the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:16   that probably we probably did yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:19   hope you to one of the Americans they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:21   always wanted one of the annotations I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:23   saw mentioned how the building that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:26   hosts the convention that apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:28   there's some cable car thing now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:31   you can like right across the Thames and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:32   it's not there and the person annotating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:36   it was wondering if it was because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:37   the Member of Parliament behind it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:41   really big in a jerk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:42   so who knows that's because there are no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:45   gods in the actual London and so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:47   obviously a different world then yeah um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:51   anything more about the wicked and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:54   divine i'm looking forward to reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:55   vol 3 which I have not read yet because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:57   i was saving it until after this podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3057">TS</a>]

00:50:59   so I wouldn't like violate the the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:03   spoil the results in some way so I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:07   is sitting on my iPad ready for me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:10   gave in after least was encouraging that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:12   you know after I'm finished second so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:14   yes i-i've read the the three volumes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:16   and i'm probably going to dig up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:18   issues that are currently out as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:20   Singleton's you listen to lisa lisa is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:22   nibbler she doesn't think it all started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:24   tonight that is what we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:26   yeah yeah I'm really enjoying it i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:30   know if it's a comic that I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:31   recommend to a lot of people um as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:33   as other comics that I won't show up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:35   two people about so I like it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:38   don't know if this is one that I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:39   like be running running around hitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:41   people over the head with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:42   yeah this one it rewards being smart it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:45   rewards being knowledgeable and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:47   not everybody looks at comics for that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:49   thought you're gonna say something about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:50   me know what we said about it being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:55   dense and looking at footnotes and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:57   that is not what i would certainly have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:59   I think you've got to be a well I i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:03   the interesting what a lien has to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:05   about this and she already touched on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:06   little bit i would recommend this much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:07   more to somebody who is a bit more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:09   veteran comic book reader who is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:12   a confident in their ability to dive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:14   into something super dense this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:17   other the ramp up on this is a is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19   or somebody is a music nerd and we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:21   take some more references you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:23   really misses vertigo because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:25   such a dude this is such a vertical book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:28   and I think back to all well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:30   this one that I felt like I had to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:31   this much homework on and I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:33   homework in a good way was the unwritten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:35   mi querido yeah yeah yeah yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:38   that's another one like oh god oh god oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:40   god this makes me feel really bad for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:42   for AP testing out of all of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44   literature requirements in college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:45   because I could have used another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:46   literature class but if you like to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:48   us talk about the unwritten by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:50   you can tune into in comfortable episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:52   number two way back in awhile way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:56   matters to me is that episode about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:59   all of comics was that back when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:01   recover yet so always about it was about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:02   the unwritten although i think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:04   descended into discussions of vertigo in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06   general at that point but yeah but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:07   was very specifically the unwritten was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:09   what we were reading which is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:11   that's a good that's a good comic I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:12   like a lot of my carry stuff only image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:14   comics is kind of turning into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:16   vertigo of this decade could be a lean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:19   so overall would you as a as I a newer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:22   comic reader would you steer people away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:24   from with the wicked the divine if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:26   weren't confident in their comic reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:28   skills or what is it ok i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:30   honestly i I just I think it depends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:33   upon the person I i wish i could say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:35   yepper note but i think and i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:39   if it's a person who is patient and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:41   willing to go back and read it again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:43   mr maybe is better at me than me than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:46   looking at the artists they go or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:48   whatever then you know definitely go for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:50   it and it's definitely not as light as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:54   you know getting into marvel comic books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:56   where you can just have to dive in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:57   read and not you know like Miss Marple I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:59   love miss marvel I don't have to think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:01   whole lot when i read the smartphone but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:04   but what you want yeah great unless I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:06   want you and you definitely can't and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:08   but with this it was it was just like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:11   need to be in the mood for something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:12   more and intellectual I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:17   that's quite the right word but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:19   just just need to sit down and think and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:21   be able to pay attention it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:23   something I can do half way and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:25   think that would be my criteria more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:27   than you know whether their veteran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:28   reader of comics or not or look inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:31   yourself cereal part of the Pantheon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:34   it's true then continue and and read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:40   weaker than the divine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:41   any other final thoughts about about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:43   this this comic before we remove i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:46   going to be a ridiculous geek and say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:48   now have a second favorite letter in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:51   comics the first is talk wine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:53   clayton cows is now my second favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:55   yes he's doing great work yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:57   different styles here and there he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:59   fluctuates between who's speaking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:02   home and Laura's thoughts versus the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:05   actual narration and you can always hide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:08   it so i noticed i mean i usually don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10   notice lettering but you know I noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12   Todd klein and Sandman and other works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:14   he's done yet and I was noticing Clayton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:16   cowls and his work all the way through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:18   I've actually put down books because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:20   couldn't stand the lettering so I end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:22   with you on this I appreciate that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:24   just wanted to talk about the art just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:26   second more because there are so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:28   different not the different styles but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:31   that coloring I think rather than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:33   art is what i'm looking more like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:35   look at one of the first and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:38   first panels in the second volume is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:43   kind of like a flashback 21 when Lucy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:46   dies in the art style and that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:48   white with like neon colored lines and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:53   the art style can on those panels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:55   where the judges again the judges had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:57   explodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3357">TS</a>]

00:55:58   you know it's it's different and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:01   and it's a really interesting contrast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:04   that I'm not seeing and maybe this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:06   the vertigo style that you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:07   about but it's a contrast that I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:08   seeing in kind of superhero comics that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:11   i'm reading or you know again the what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:12   black-and-white walking dead you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:14   volumes so I don't know it just never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:17   really loved it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:18   yeah I think you're right on that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:20   the art that they are doing things with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:22   art to emphasize what's going on in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:25   plot what's going on with the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:27   like we mentioned with the Dionysus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:29   issue of just how everything is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:30   cotton candy pink um during the rave and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:33   everything is going on that just um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:35   really typifies what's what's happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:37   in the story but something that you made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:41   reminded me of there's an issue in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43   second volume and you may be the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:44   you're talking about where they actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:46   deliberately made most of the story by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:49   recycling previous panels they actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:52   like went and scavenger hunted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:54   through all of those previous things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:57   made almost the entire issue with no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3417">TS</a>]

00:57:00   brand new art which was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:02   interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:03   yeah i just i think that it's I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:05   it's great let's uh let's move on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:08   talk about if there are other comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:10   that you have read recently this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:12   shot in the dark but it usually gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:13   usually Lisa tells us things we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:15   read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:16   let's just call this Lisa tells us what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:18   to read but if there is what what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:20   there are any other comics are reading i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:21   would love to hear about Alisa what-what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:24   do what are we reading next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:26   what do you tell what do you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:27   liking now ok i just finished unbeatable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:31   schoolgirl volumes 1 & 2 & comment and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:36   then I read them to my daughter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:37   she's 5 and she now love squirrel girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:41   passionately like sleeps with the sleeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:44   with the the issues under her under her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:46   pillow and the reason i would recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:49   this to both adults and as a family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:51   friendly book is because the way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:53   book is structured is you can read to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:55   kids and it's just as very cheery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:59   positive joyful book about being a young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:04   woman who loves being in college and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:07   loves being a superhero at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:09   and there are all of these really clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:12   extra textural jokes and then these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:15   footnotes at the bottom of the page that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:16   are just downright hysterical so it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:21   can be a fast and funny and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:22   non-challenging right if that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:23   you're into or it can be a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:25   more of a deep dive if you're like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:26   turned out so loved and read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:29   unbeatable squirrel girl right after I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:32   went to see hell Caesar I when I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:35   all three volumes of at brubakers on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:38   our book the fade out which centers on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:41   the murder of a Hollywood starlet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:43   nineteen fifties the fixer who may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:47   actually not be responsible and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:49   crosses over into the impact of the Red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:51   Scare on Hollywood and what it's like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:54   be a writer who's living with PTSD in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:57   time when like nobody knew what that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:59   or even identified it its it's nourish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:01   and because I'm somebody who likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:03   Raymond Chandler novels a lot i liked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:06   and I thought the fit-out was a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:07   nice total counter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:08   point to the common brothers take on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:12   same period in inhale Caesar else that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:16   read recently the third trade paperback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:19   for God hates astronauts came home and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:22   that is one of the most exuberantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:23   stupid books and comics like it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:26   dumb it is it is it is ryan braun is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:29   like is is a sivaji it is a lot when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:33   comes to doing really unrepentantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:38   stupid hilarious stuff I hadn't come I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:42   mean you have you have a king tiger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:45   eating a cheeseburger who and who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:47   launches invasion against earth using an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:49   army of crab people who can be eaten the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:53   lead character who had his head punched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:55   off in like the first trade and merged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:57   with the ghost cow is still you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:57   with the ghost cow is still you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3597">TS</a>]

01:00:00   fully done with his with his wife who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:01   was also super hero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3601">TS</a>]

01:00:03   it's it's it's a book that makes almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:05   no sense if you haven't been reading it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:07   from the first trade and i love it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:09   much because it is just so so broad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:12   video and um Lexi and I finally finished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:16   the she-hulk run done by kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:21   Lincoln's last name sue shoot souls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:23   Charles Charles souls i finally finished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:25   the she-hulk round that he did and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:28   had a lovely and satisfying ending and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:30   I'm sorry that he's not continue on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:31   book and I hope that someday she hulk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:33   gets the gets the Hawkeye experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:37   where the right team like the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:39   audience finds the book and embraces it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:41   and sort of carries it forward because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:43   it was a lot of fun and they actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:45   show doing a lot of Lord lawyer type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:47   stuff and they made that pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:49   interesting which is which is a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:50   challenge so those are the books I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:53   been reading recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:54   alright okay I Tony what are you reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:58   well I'm i also read the the intro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3658">TS</a>]

01:01:03   breaker book that uh Lisa was reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:05   which I also i read as a follow up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:07   fate al which is his with the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:10   author I breaker and an artist I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:14   Shaun Phillips which is basically kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:16   of AR Anwar with mixed with the lumix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:20   which was interesting i also mentioned i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:23   just recently read those recommended to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:26   me by a librarian so i'll share that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:28   recommendation on to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:29   Southern Cross is a kind of of murder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:32   mystery set in space about a woman who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:36   is looking for her sister who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:37   disappeared on a tanker flight to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:40   the moon of Titan and I like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:44   something space i really like the fuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:46   which is murder mysteries in space and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:48   seven crosses a little bit more of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:50   with some kind of weird kind of trippy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:52   70 style art so that was pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:54   interesting read the first following [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:55   with that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:56   and looking forward to more volumes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:58   that I had I haven't started a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:00   series a long time and I just already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:02   squirrel girl because Lisa told me to so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3722">TS</a>]

01:02:04   badly so she does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:07   so Shannon do you have anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:09   you'd like to recommend that you've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:10   looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:11   well unfortunately i have been so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:13   swamped at work i have gotten very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:14   little reading done in general and most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3734">TS</a>]

01:02:17   of it's been for the foot podcast but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:19   did manage to finally get Sandman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:23   overture done in red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:26   yes it took me this long but yes to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:29   because i am all things a man i'm a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:32   fan of gaming and anything game and does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:34   so once this was completed in a trade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:38   paperback format [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:39   I I I grabbed it and i bought it in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:43   I enjoyed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:44   alright and leave anything other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:46   the things that we assigned you for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:47   this anything else that you've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3767">TS</a>]

01:02:49   reading and liking and agent same as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:52   last episode honestly and miss marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:54   the German hologram squirrel girl i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:56   really like i really love her approach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:58   to problem solving and because she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:01   doesn't just like beat him up she she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:04   solves problems and I appreciate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:06   and I have the 2014 round of Black Widow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:11   which i haven't dived into quite yet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:15   and then yeah that's about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:18   alright and then for me i'll say in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:22   addition to yes the wicked the divine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:23   I've been reading only one of midnighter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3803">TS</a>]

01:03:28   the Joe orlando comic about the from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:31   from from the pages of the authority and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:35   I think he's an interesting guy i it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:39   it's violent but funny and kind of weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:42   and I find him enjoyable and that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:45   is the midnight or after he and he and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:47   his husband have a split up and so he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:51   he's like on his own and has his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:53   everybody knows he's the midnighter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:56   he's on tinder or Grindr or whatever as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:58   the midnighter and he just dates dates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:01   people and is the midnighter and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:03   fascinating and interesting and strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:06   and I like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:08   thanks to thanks to Joe steal for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:10   recommending that actually on Twitter so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:13   quick question do they explain why the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:15   marriage falls apart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:16   no it's not dealt with it all in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:18   first issue and and this is like new 52 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3858">TS</a>]

01:04:20   stuff so for all i know everything's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3860">TS</a>]

01:04:22   been red card out of existence i have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:24   idea all i know is he's single and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:26   coming out of a bad relationship and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:28   still like beaten people up and killing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:30   them and stuff because they're bad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:33   has a computer in his head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:35   actually the the theme of my last couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:36   months of comic reading has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:38   revisiting it's sort of like what Tony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:39   said about you you get new issues and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:41   you have to read the old issues again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:44   did that with saga it turned out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:45   there are about eight issues of saga [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:47   that I just lets it because I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:48   got soggy it out after a while and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:51   went back to the beginning I read all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:53   saga and then read the last year's worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:55   of issues that i hadn't read and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:57   really enjoyable I think I found my love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3897">TS</a>]

01:05:00   of Frank avon saga and Fiona staples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:03   saga again after putting iikind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:06   overdosed on it so i put it aside for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:08   for like a year away where you left it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:10   because that's that's where things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:11   always are yeah that's what you looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:12   at i just put it on you know what no i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:14   wasn't i had to start from the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:15   again because I totally lost I literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:17   could not remember where I even left off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:19   its it was only this the last place you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:21   look now and then are similarly and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:24   pointedly for morning glories which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:26   really like but we have that one day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:28   cannot it it's so wildly complicated a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:32   story and it's convoluted and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:34   time travel and three-time loops and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:37   just crazy stuff happens in morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:39   glories and I i read i inhaled like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:43   first for trades or something and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:45   it's been like a year or so year or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:47   and I realized that I had no idea i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:49   picked up one of the issues i haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:51   read and realize that no idea what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:52   going on so I went back to the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:53   and read from the start all the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3953">TS</a>]

01:05:55   through the current issue which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:57   number 49 and number 50 comes out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:59   like a week or two and it closed it caps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:02   and arc and it's very exciting and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:04   you're a fan of I'd say lost is the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:07   analog it's like lost the comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:09   except set in a in a boarding school but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:12   it is like lost it has stuff where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:15   you're like what just happened and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:17   that time travel and it's quite a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:20   so if you're a fan of that kind of crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:23   twisting too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:24   doing stuff morning glories uh but I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3984">TS</a>]

01:06:26   did have to go back for both of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:28   and really just start from the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:29   and read them from scratch it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:30   delight to do that because they're both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:32   good books all right I think we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:34   reached the end of the comic book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:35   how about that but that's okay because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:37   we'll all be reincarnated in 90 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:39   and return to the comic book pantheon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:41   this know maybe this I don't know people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:42   be reading comics in 90 years i'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:44   be beating them to each other using a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:46   pair of their brain simply streaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:48   images to reach an executive branch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:51   the brand's yeah we animated images [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:53   Nellis yeah probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:55   well I'd like to thank my panelists for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:57   joining me to read and discuss what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4017">TS</a>]

01:06:59   given the divine there's a lot of fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:00   Shannon soda thanks for being here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:02   always a pleasure only in Sims thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4022">TS</a>]

01:07:04   thank you Tony single are made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:07   Batman be with you and with you and Lisa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:10   Schmeisser is always a pleasure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:11   if you come up with that was great to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:15   yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:15   oh I had a great time thank you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:19   became a bad man be with all of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4039">TS</a>]

01:07:21   how fair right Tony right yeah I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:25   know I'm gorgeous typical in the flash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4045">TS</a>]

01:07:27   at this point it doesn't matter it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4047">TS</a>]

01:07:29   dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:30   she's their tragedy of these he's you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:32   always within the within like five feet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:33   of Batman he's just always nearby just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4053">TS</a>]

01:07:35   in their rush you can't see them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4055">TS</a>]

01:07:37   what the footprints art where you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4057">TS</a>]

01:07:39   walking on a beach and then when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:40   look there's only one set of footprints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4060">TS</a>]

01:07:41   but there's also the Cape line behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4061">TS</a>]

01:07:43   them gently racism if they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:45   that man is always with us thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:48   everybody for listening we will see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:49   next time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4069">TS</a>]

01:07:59   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYQjuFI/4079">TS</a>]