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327: This Robot is Eisenhower

 

00:00:00   submitted for your approval one Rod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/0">TS</a>]

00:00:02   Serling rumbles television writer who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2">TS</a>]

00:00:04   gained a sort of immortality by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4">TS</a>]

00:00:06   appearing on camera introducing an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/6">TS</a>]

00:00:07   anthology series that would go down in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/7">TS</a>]

00:00:10   history as one of the finest of all time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/10">TS</a>]

00:00:12   his story was not an amazing story in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/12">TS</a>]

00:00:14   order to take viewers to the outer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/14">TS</a>]

00:00:16   limits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/16">TS</a>]

00:00:17   instead it took them to the heart of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/17">TS</a>]

00:00:19   human nature one of the darkest corners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/19">TS</a>]

00:00:21   of the twilight zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/21">TS</a>]

00:00:24   the incomparable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/24">TS</a>]

00:00:28   number 377 November 2016 welcome back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/28">TS</a>]

00:00:37   everybody to the uncomfortable i am your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/37">TS</a>]

00:00:39   host Jason smell and we're here in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/39">TS</a>]

00:00:41   episode to talk about classic television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/41">TS</a>]

00:00:43   series from long ago for more than 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/43">TS</a>]

00:00:46   years ago but you probably know it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/46">TS</a>]

00:00:49   if you haven't seen it you know what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/49">TS</a>]

00:00:51   probably still know it because of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/51">TS</a>]

00:00:54   the references [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/54">TS</a>]

00:00:55   it's so influential and funny thing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/55">TS</a>]

00:00:59   often rerun over the holidays in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/59">TS</a>]

00:01:02   marathon which is one of the reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/62">TS</a>]

00:01:04   we're doing it right before Thanksgiving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/64">TS</a>]

00:01:05   it's the twilight zone we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/65">TS</a>]

00:01:08   enter our dimension not only of sight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/68">TS</a>]

00:01:10   and sound but of mind dude and introduce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/70">TS</a>]

00:01:13   my panelists dune computed he is fresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/73">TS</a>]

00:01:22   out of the asylum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/82">TS</a>]

00:01:23   so let's put them on an airplane it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/83">TS</a>]

00:01:25   david lower hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/85">TS</a>]

00:01:27   submitted for your approval a playwright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/87">TS</a>]

00:01:29   surrounded by cornfields reaping what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/89">TS</a>]

00:01:32   sowed in the twilight zone also as Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/92">TS</a>]

00:01:35   let's hear it's good that you're here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/95">TS</a>]

00:01:37   it's really good Steve it's great that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/97">TS</a>]

00:01:38   you're here it's a real good podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/98">TS</a>]

00:01:41   you're making your Jason real it's real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/101">TS</a>]

00:01:42   good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/102">TS</a>]

00:01:43   it's it's really good make him stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/103">TS</a>]

00:01:45   doing it make him stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/105">TS</a>]

00:01:47   somebody hit the podcast host over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/107">TS</a>]

00:01:49   head with something hard while I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/109">TS</a>]

00:01:51   distracted and now I first time on as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/111">TS</a>]

00:01:57   panelist although you've heard his voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/117">TS</a>]

00:01:58   before in some of our listener feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/118">TS</a>]

00:02:00   episodes he's also the host and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/120">TS</a>]

00:02:02   relevant of the random sterling podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/122">TS</a>]

00:02:05   it's a it's it's dan where's dan I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/125">TS</a>]

00:02:11   talky Tina and i'm going to introduce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/131">TS</a>]

00:02:13   you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/133">TS</a>]

00:02:15   look mom Santa Claus is loaded and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/135">TS</a>]

00:02:19   I was going to introduce our next guest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/139">TS</a>]

00:02:22   with some dialogue from the classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/142">TS</a>]

00:02:25   Twilight Zone episode the invaders but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/145">TS</a>]

00:02:28   there isn't any its Frank whoo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/148">TS</a>]

00:02:31   Frank welcome thanks i love the twilight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/151">TS</a>]

00:02:34   zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/154">TS</a>]

00:02:34   I am so psyched about this I cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/154">TS</a>]

00:02:38   express in words because we're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/158">TS</a>]

00:02:40   about that so that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/160">TS</a>]

00:02:41   like I can I got president words just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/161">TS</a>]

00:02:43   how awesome this this is I i love this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/163">TS</a>]

00:02:46   show since I was little and ah yes now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/166">TS</a>]

00:02:50   see thanksgiving is not my twilight zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/170">TS</a>]

00:02:52   holiday it is right for me it was always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/172">TS</a>]

00:02:55   a fourth of july i know that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/175">TS</a>]

00:02:57   probably are some places some weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/177">TS</a>]

00:02:59   places where thanksgiving is the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/179">TS</a>]

00:03:01   for the twilight zone marathon but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/181">TS</a>]

00:03:03   was always at least in the LA area he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/183">TS</a>]

00:03:05   was always a the fourth of July [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/185">TS</a>]

00:03:07   independence that's just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/187">TS</a>]

00:03:08   conversation around the table with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/188">TS</a>]

00:03:09   inlaws that's what Thanksgiving is I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/189">TS</a>]

00:03:13   just we know you did this when we set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/193">TS</a>]

00:03:15   this episode of Steve III did my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/195">TS</a>]

00:03:17   research and the toilets and marathon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/197">TS</a>]

00:03:19   originated on Katla in la at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/199">TS</a>]

00:03:22   Thanksgiving of 1980 so it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/202">TS</a>]

00:03:24   thanksgiving marathon before it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/204">TS</a>]

00:03:26   fourth of July Wow in your face get on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/206">TS</a>]

00:03:28   KTLA no kidding well they changed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/208">TS</a>]

00:03:30   they changed it then very easy steve-o [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/210">TS</a>]

00:03:32   my recent it was always a new years day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/212">TS</a>]

00:03:35   marathon bag yeah it's a holiday thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/215">TS</a>]

00:03:37   to it so anything could think of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/217">TS</a>]

00:03:39   marathon about regardless yeah it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/219">TS</a>]

00:03:41   better for the fourth of july though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/221">TS</a>]

00:03:42   because there's nothing else going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/222">TS</a>]

00:03:43   the fourth of July you don't have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/223">TS</a>]

00:03:45   meals to prepare anything just sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/225">TS</a>]

00:03:47   around waiting to blow stuff up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/227">TS</a>]

00:03:48   evening and well it's there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/228">TS</a>]

00:03:50   homespun americana yeah and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/230">TS</a>]

00:03:53   there all episodes about how messed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/233">TS</a>]

00:03:54   america is just too far more twilight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/234">TS</a>]

00:03:57   zone episodes are set in summers gone by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/237">TS</a>]

00:03:59   than any other season so there's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01   one summer to every customer Jason I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/241">TS</a>]

00:04:04   just thinking that you know you can put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/244">TS</a>]

00:04:06   something on the stove and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/246">TS</a>]

00:04:08   thanksgiving and then watch all an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/248">TS</a>]

00:04:09   entire episode and then come back and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/249">TS</a>]

00:04:11   wouldn't be done yet because these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13   these are these are quick there Pacey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/253">TS</a>]

00:04:15   the fastest are fast there in and out 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/255">TS</a>]

00:04:17   minutes they're done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/257">TS</a>]

00:04:18   I got through these ones we watch for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/258">TS</a>]

00:04:19   this in just lickety-split [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/259">TS</a>]

00:04:21   yeah it's fast speedy speedy it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/261">TS</a>]

00:04:24   of nice instead of watching the movie it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/264">TS</a>]

00:04:26   goes on for three hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/266">TS</a>]

00:04:27   I don't make them like this anymore we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/267">TS</a>]

00:04:30   watched six episodes and we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/270">TS</a>]

00:04:31   talk about it but I thought we would get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/271">TS</a>]

00:04:33   I thought we maybe get started by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/273">TS</a>]

00:04:35   talking about the twilight zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/275">TS</a>]

00:04:36   more generally you know it is it is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/276">TS</a>]

00:04:38   in in people's memory they know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/278">TS</a>]

00:04:41   maybe the voice of Rod Serling and him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/281">TS</a>]

00:04:43   appearing in a suit and introducing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/283">TS</a>]

00:04:46   that every every introduction ends with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/286">TS</a>]

00:04:48   a littlie a little uh mention of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/288">TS</a>]

00:04:51   twilight zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/291">TS</a>]

00:04:53   and how does he work that in and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/293">TS</a>]

00:04:55   does that all fit in the theme song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/295">TS</a>]

00:04:56   super creepy there are lots of really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58   interesting opening credits it's all in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/298">TS</a>]

00:04:59   black and white at lots of amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/299">TS</a>]

00:05:02   actors showed up in it and of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/302">TS</a>]

00:05:05   it's famous for its surprising twist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/305">TS</a>]

00:05:08   endings that happen a lot i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/308">TS</a>]

00:05:10   sticks in our minds this is a this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/310">TS</a>]

00:05:12   one of these these things that 55 60 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/312">TS</a>]

00:05:15   years later it's still quite memorable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/315">TS</a>]

00:05:17   the the all of these stories as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/317">TS</a>]

00:05:20   anthology series especially it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/320">TS</a>]

00:05:22   little surprising their know like sink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/322">TS</a>]

00:05:24   in indelible characters like Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/324">TS</a>]

00:05:26   or something like that it's just these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/326">TS</a>]

00:05:27   stories and and and yet it remains i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/327">TS</a>]

00:05:32   would say i don't know if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/332">TS</a>]

00:05:33   influential but it's certainly strong in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/333">TS</a>]

00:05:35   memory they don't make shows like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/335">TS</a>]

00:05:36   anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/336">TS</a>]

00:05:37   well but you know separately mirror-like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/337">TS</a>]

00:05:39   rehash that gets created about every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/339">TS</a>]

00:05:41   every 20 years yeah but even even there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/341">TS</a>]

00:05:44   you've got it is influenced episodes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/344">TS</a>]

00:05:47   other shows it is important for sure it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/347">TS</a>]

00:05:49   has influenced the style of shows like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/349">TS</a>]

00:05:51   The X Files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/351">TS</a>]

00:05:52   I mean what is the x-files but just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/352">TS</a>]

00:05:54   really long Twilight Zone that kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/354">TS</a>]

00:05:57   meanders and gets lost in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/357">TS</a>]

00:05:59   technology halfway through the show but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/359">TS</a>]

00:06:00   anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/360">TS</a>]

00:06:00   well the simpsons halloween episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/360">TS</a>]

00:06:02   wouldn't exist without the top it's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/362">TS</a>]

00:06:04   right there almost more of the men are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/364">TS</a>]

00:06:06   twilight zone episodes at this point to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/366">TS</a>]

00:06:08   you know and and part of the reason it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/368">TS</a>]

00:06:10   endured where things like science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/370">TS</a>]

00:06:13   fiction theater and even the outer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/373">TS</a>]

00:06:14   limits the outer limits are still kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/374">TS</a>]

00:06:16   of popular but you know anthologies were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/376">TS</a>]

00:06:19   big thing at the time the reason this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/379">TS</a>]

00:06:21   one indoors i think is because most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/381">TS</a>]

00:06:23   those were about quick scares and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/383">TS</a>]

00:06:27   not it's not just hates monster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/387">TS</a>]

00:06:29   ah and trying to deal with monster or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/389">TS</a>]

00:06:31   hey its invaders from space right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/391">TS</a>]

00:06:33   there's more to it it's about the fear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/393">TS</a>]

00:06:36   of the unknown at work on a normal human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/396">TS</a>]

00:06:39   being and almost every episode does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/399">TS</a>]

00:06:42   that creeping sense of something is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/402">TS</a>]

00:06:45   really really weird and and it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/405">TS</a>]

00:06:48   eventually overwhelm me if I don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/408">TS</a>]

00:06:51   something and sometimes the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/411">TS</a>]

00:06:53   character is overwhelmed sometimes it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/413">TS</a>]

00:06:56   someone who deserves their comeuppance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/416">TS</a>]

00:06:57   and sometimes it's working on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59   perfectly innocent person or someone we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/419">TS</a>]

00:07:02   think is a perfectly innocent person and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/422">TS</a>]

00:07:04   and so there's there's more at work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/424">TS</a>]

00:07:06   there than just scary story creepy story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/426">TS</a>]

00:07:10   well their morality plays I mean yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/430">TS</a>]

00:07:12   yeah Rod Serling really use this as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/432">TS</a>]

00:07:15   way to tell stories about politics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/435">TS</a>]

00:07:17   because he had had a show i think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/437">TS</a>]

00:07:20   called the arena or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/440">TS</a>]

00:07:21   which is about politics in 1956 and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/441">TS</a>]

00:07:24   they killed it because it was talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26   about you know current for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/446">TS</a>]

00:07:27   politicians and it's like well so make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/447">TS</a>]

00:07:29   everybody a robot until the exact same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/449">TS</a>]

00:07:32   sorry that will be fine and and everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/452">TS</a>]

00:07:35   will know that this robot is Eisenhower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/455">TS</a>]

00:07:38   and this other robot is perfect Steven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/458">TS</a>]

00:07:40   said and you know I can say whatever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/460">TS</a>]

00:07:42   want Ike was a robot did the final straw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/462">TS</a>]

00:07:45   was when he tried to do a teleplay about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/465">TS</a>]

00:07:47   the Emmett Till story and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/467">TS</a>]

00:07:50   completely I mean they said well you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/470">TS</a>]

00:07:52   you can set a hundred years earlier and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/472">TS</a>]

00:07:55   you can set it in a little mexican town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/475">TS</a>]

00:07:57   and and it won't have anything to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59   with Emmett Till and it'll barely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/479">TS</a>]

00:08:01   resemble the real story and he said this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/481">TS</a>]

00:08:03   is ridiculous and it was awful i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/483">TS</a>]

00:08:05   it's called a town is turned to dust and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/485">TS</a>]

00:08:08   and that was the moment when he said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/488">TS</a>]

00:08:09   know again if I said it in the science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/489">TS</a>]

00:08:12   fictional setting think they just go out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/492">TS</a>]

00:08:14   robot school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/494">TS</a>]

00:08:15   yeah that's what they used to do in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/495">TS</a>]

00:08:16   soviet russia that was the secret sauce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/496">TS</a>]

00:08:18   and star trek to write is a trace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/498">TS</a>]

00:08:21   you don't think it's so ridiculous that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/501">TS</a>]

00:08:22   we can slide in RR meaning and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/502">TS</a>]

00:08:25   everybody can just agree it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/505">TS</a>]

00:08:28   be an allegory it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/508">TS</a>]

00:08:29   metaphorical it's not going to be that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31   why I like some of the best Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/511">TS</a>]

00:08:32   episodes are also some of the worst and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/512">TS</a>]

00:08:34   let that be the last year about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/514">TS</a>]

00:08:36   where you like guys are like black and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/516">TS</a>]

00:08:38   one time went on the other side as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/518">TS</a>]

00:08:40   opposed to the guys are whitening that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42   side in black and yellow set which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/522">TS</a>]

00:08:44   either the dumbest idea you've ever seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/524">TS</a>]

00:08:46   are the most drawing idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/526">TS</a>]

00:08:48   it's like it's hard to tell what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/528">TS</a>]

00:08:50   problem is when they're too on the nose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/530">TS</a>]

00:08:51   yeah and and one thing that Sterling was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/531">TS</a>]

00:08:53   good about was coaching things properly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/533">TS</a>]

00:08:55   within enough of a sci-fi or horror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/535">TS</a>]

00:08:57   environment that whatever the message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/537">TS</a>]

00:09:00   was it was relatively unrecognizable he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/540">TS</a>]

00:09:03   wasn't beating you over the head with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/543">TS</a>]

00:09:05   his humanism or whatever it was that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/545">TS</a>]

00:09:07   was pounding that week I feel like a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/547">TS</a>]

00:09:09   of the these episodes including those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/549">TS</a>]

00:09:10   samples that we watch one of the one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/550">TS</a>]

00:09:12   the great things about them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/552">TS</a>]

00:09:14   not all of them but some of them you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/554">TS</a>]

00:09:16   don't you're not entirely sure what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/556">TS</a>]

00:09:18   you're watching when you're watching it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/558">TS</a>]

00:09:20   and um where the supernatural element [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/560">TS</a>]

00:09:23   will come in if it comes in at all some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/563">TS</a>]

00:09:25   of them are a little more obvious but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/565">TS</a>]

00:09:26   some of them are not just waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/566">TS</a>]

00:09:28   the twist your like waiting to see when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/568">TS</a>]

00:09:31   you take like an episode like there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/571">TS</a>]

00:09:34   a lot of these where whether somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/574">TS</a>]

00:09:36   who you think may be losing it and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/576">TS</a>]

00:09:37   unclear whether you're really witnessing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/577">TS</a>]

00:09:40   a supernatural event or just a crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/580">TS</a>]

00:09:42   person like you know living doll is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/582">TS</a>]

00:09:44   kinda like that and nightmare at 20,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/584">TS</a>]

00:09:48   40,000 feet for sure is like that which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/588">TS</a>]

00:09:50   and the beauty of that is he starts as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/590">TS</a>]

00:09:53   someone who just left an asylum right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/593">TS</a>]

00:09:57   Ryan he's he's struggling you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59   like Izzy crazy at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/599">TS</a>]

00:10:01   no he didn't see a thing on the wing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/601">TS</a>]

00:10:03   he has regained his sanity even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/603">TS</a>]

00:10:05   they wheeled him away or I will get to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/605">TS</a>]

00:10:07   woman we talked about this one but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/607">TS</a>]

00:10:09   month the monsters are due on Maple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/609">TS</a>]

00:10:10   Street I mean you could go very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/610">TS</a>]

00:10:12   deep like literally to the last shot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/612">TS</a>]

00:10:15   that and just cut it off before the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/615">TS</a>]

00:10:17   and say there are no aliens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/617">TS</a>]

00:10:21   there's no fantastic element monsters r [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/621">TS</a>]

00:10:23   us kid vs the monsters arrives we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/623">TS</a>]

00:10:25   established this we're done right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/625">TS</a>]

00:10:27   that i love that about it almost look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/627">TS</a>]

00:10:29   better in fact that many together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/629">TS</a>]

00:10:30   episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/630">TS</a>]

00:10:31   yeah so the reason the twilight zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/631">TS</a>]

00:10:33   stuck with me was particularly that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/633">TS</a>]

00:10:36   was like the perfect first geeking out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/636">TS</a>]

00:10:38   kind of show you i was not old enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/638">TS</a>]

00:10:42   be around when these originally aired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/642">TS</a>]

00:10:43   but I saw them constantly in syndication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/643">TS</a>]

00:10:45   and in particular those those marathons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/645">TS</a>]

00:10:48   i look forward to every year and I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/648">TS</a>]

00:10:50   sit there and watch them over and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/650">TS</a>]

00:10:51   again and it was really the first show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/651">TS</a>]

00:10:54   that I just completely geeked out about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/654">TS</a>]

00:10:56   and I wanted to make sure I had seen all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/656">TS</a>]

00:10:58   of them and it was one of the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/658">TS</a>]

00:11:02   shows that i can think of that had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/662">TS</a>]

00:11:03   companion book that came out that listed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/663">TS</a>]

00:11:05   every episode of The Twilight Zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/665">TS</a>]

00:11:07   companion by Mark Scott decree long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/667">TS</a>]

00:11:10   before the internet made these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/670">TS</a>]

00:11:11   you know the things that you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/671">TS</a>]

00:11:13   pull up with the tap of a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/673">TS</a>]

00:11:15   fingers you have to go to bookstore and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/675">TS</a>]

00:11:17   specifically by the twilight zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/677">TS</a>]

00:11:18   companion but it was great because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/678">TS</a>]

00:11:20   listed all the episodes you know season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/680">TS</a>]

00:11:22   by season with the original airdate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/682">TS</a>]

00:11:24   switch wasn't necessarily the same as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/684">TS</a>]

00:11:26   the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/686">TS</a>]

00:11:26   that they were produced in and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/686">TS</a>]

00:11:32   written early enough that and thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/692">TS</a>]

00:11:35   goodness that he wrote it when he did as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/695">TS</a>]

00:11:37   opposed to wait until the Internet age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/697">TS</a>]

00:11:38   because he was able to to interview the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/698">TS</a>]

00:11:40   creator's you know there were some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/700">TS</a>]

00:11:41   them are still alive and the ones who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/701">TS</a>]

00:11:43   weren't were not so far gone that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/703">TS</a>]

00:11:46   had forgotten you know the the various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/706">TS</a>]

00:11:47   things that they had said about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/707">TS</a>]

00:11:49   episode so I mean it was just it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/709">TS</a>]

00:11:51   treasure trove for somebody who liked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/711">TS</a>]

00:11:53   really get into something and sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/713">TS</a>]

00:11:56   appease that collectors urge you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/716">TS</a>]

00:11:59   my copy is sitting three feet away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/719">TS</a>]

00:12:01   you as as we speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/721">TS</a>]

00:12:03   I'm holding in my hands unfortunately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/723">TS</a>]

00:12:05   lost my first edition I'm I've got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/725">TS</a>]

00:12:06   2nd edition so Dan what prompted you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/726">TS</a>]

00:12:09   mean you obviously care enough about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/729">TS</a>]

00:12:11   this that you decided to do a podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/731">TS</a>]

00:12:12   all about the the rod serling TV series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/732">TS</a>]

00:12:16   so what what what made this click for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/736">TS</a>]

00:12:18   you so it's interesting at least I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/738">TS</a>]

00:12:20   it's interesting to people that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/740">TS</a>]

00:12:22   that's the purpose that will be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/742">TS</a>]

00:12:23   judge of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/743">TS</a>]

00:12:24   there's the twist the yes will it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/744">TS</a>]

00:12:26   interesting or not the the the thing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/746">TS</a>]

00:12:28   me is like but like many of you all have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/748">TS</a>]

00:12:31   said I'm not old enough to have seen the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/751">TS</a>]

00:12:33   show in its original runs but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/753">TS</a>]

00:12:36   very familiar with through syndication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/756">TS</a>]

00:12:37   you know i can recall watching many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/757">TS</a>]

00:12:40   episodes on the couch with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/760">TS</a>]

00:12:41   grandmother who lived with us at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/761">TS</a>]

00:12:43   time we were and she kind of turned me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/763">TS</a>]

00:12:45   into a TV junkie or did she or was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/765">TS</a>]

00:12:50   your grandmother she was dead the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/770">TS</a>]

00:12:52   time but yeah it's a so for me I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/772">TS</a>]

00:12:56   some memories of that but then I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/776">TS</a>]

00:13:00   hadn't watched any episodes of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/780">TS</a>]

00:13:01   in a very long time and I was feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/781">TS</a>]

00:13:05   the urge to create a show that had you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/785">TS</a>]

00:13:07   know give me a reason to find guests and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/787">TS</a>]

00:13:10   talk to different people and and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/790">TS</a>]

00:13:13   kind of happened upon well here's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/793">TS</a>]

00:13:14   thing that note that not only there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/794">TS</a>]

00:13:17   the twilight zone but then I also added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/797">TS</a>]

00:13:18   night gallery into the mix to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/798">TS</a>]

00:13:21   just to add some just crummy your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/801">TS</a>]

00:13:23   television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/803">TS</a>]

00:13:25   no I like my gallery and often it has it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/805">TS</a>]

00:13:28   has its moments so yeah part of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/808">TS</a>]

00:13:29   motivation was that I'm not as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/809">TS</a>]

00:13:31   versed is is as you all actually are and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/811">TS</a>]

00:13:33   so it was giving me a of a reason and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/813">TS</a>]

00:13:35   justification with a full-time job to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/815">TS</a>]

00:13:38   spend as much time as i'm planning to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/818">TS</a>]

00:13:40   watching all this TV I felt like I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42   to have something coming out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/822">TS</a>]

00:13:43   creatively so so that's kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/823">TS</a>]

00:13:46   shows as much for my education and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/826">TS</a>]

00:13:48   learning for my guests is anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/828">TS</a>]

00:13:50   i mean 20 minutes a week who that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/830">TS</a>]

00:13:53   group anyway let's let's III randomized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/833">TS</a>]

00:13:58   using random.org a list of the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00   battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/840">TS</a>]

00:14:01   yes that's right when you want to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/841">TS</a>]

00:14:03   twilight zone episodes randomly choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/843">TS</a>]

00:14:05   random.org the invaders came up first no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/845">TS</a>]

00:14:09   but yeah we're just gonna be quiet for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/849">TS</a>]

00:14:11   20 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/851">TS</a>]

00:14:12   that's that's we talk about the the ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/852">TS</a>]

00:14:15   this is influential one of my like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/855">TS</a>]

00:14:17   notes that i made for this episode this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/857">TS</a>]

00:14:19   is the episode where agnes moorehead is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/859">TS</a>]

00:14:21   chased around by these adorable little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/861">TS</a>]

00:14:23   likes robot astronaut things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/863">TS</a>]

00:14:27   creatures of some stuff so modern ebay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/867">TS</a>]

00:14:29   they are adorable they're adorable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/869">TS</a>]

00:14:32   tell the one is holding a knife that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/872">TS</a>]

00:14:33   bigger than him ocean suddenly actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/873">TS</a>]

00:14:35   I'm terrifying but it was self-defense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/875">TS</a>]

00:14:37   when you should then they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/877">TS</a>]

00:14:38   shining their little light at her and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/878">TS</a>]

00:14:40   making well it's raised up on her skin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/880">TS</a>]

00:14:42   they're not quite so terrifying but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/882">TS</a>]

00:14:43   soon as the things got the knife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/883">TS</a>]

00:14:45   sticking out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/885">TS</a>]

00:14:46   well I mean the headline is local woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/886">TS</a>]

00:14:47   menaced by adorable robots I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/887">TS</a>]

00:14:49   that's what yeah that is my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/889">TS</a>]

00:14:51   shot in like any Twilight Zone episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/891">TS</a>]

00:14:53   where where she's grabbing the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/893">TS</a>]

00:14:56   doorknob and the knife comes out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/896">TS</a>]

00:14:58   Qatar him and yeah it's so bad it's sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/898">TS</a>]

00:15:02   mr. all and the wood thing i love about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/902">TS</a>]

00:15:04   this episode in the reason that works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/904">TS</a>]

00:15:06   for me because you know as someone who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/906">TS</a>]

00:15:09   worked in animation someone that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/909">TS</a>]

00:15:11   likes animation is like anyone who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/911">TS</a>]

00:15:13   because any interest at all in doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/913">TS</a>]

00:15:14   animation should see this episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/914">TS</a>]

00:15:16   because the reason a lot of CGI doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/916">TS</a>]

00:15:19   work is because the characters don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/919">TS</a>]

00:15:21   interact with the environment it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/921">TS</a>]

00:15:23   an and Prometheus are taking this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/923">TS</a>]

00:15:25   vehicle from the spaceship to the alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/925">TS</a>]

00:15:27   ruins and there's always cool landscape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/927">TS</a>]

00:15:29   that you see out the window no one's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/929">TS</a>]

00:15:31   looking out the windows and like in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/931">TS</a>]

00:15:34   episode she's like she's making food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/934">TS</a>]

00:15:36   she's at that that knife is set up by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/936">TS</a>]

00:15:38   when she takes a slice of potato or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/938">TS</a>]

00:15:41   whatever and she eats it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/941">TS</a>]

00:15:43   she's like actually eating so you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/943">TS</a>]

00:15:45   this sense that she's actually in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/945">TS</a>]

00:15:47   environment working in interacting with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/947">TS</a>]

00:15:50   objects in their environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/950">TS</a>]

00:15:52   she used that knife we saw it in use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/952">TS</a>]

00:15:54   yeah when I for the night yeah exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/954">TS</a>]

00:15:55   and so when she got stabbed by the knife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/955">TS</a>]

00:15:58   and cut by the knife you like really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/958">TS</a>]

00:15:59   feel like and that's why I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/959">TS</a>]

00:16:01   absurd really works and I mean one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/961">TS</a>]

00:16:04   is that if you look closely i mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/964">TS</a>]

00:16:07   starts out you know you see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/967">TS</a>]

00:16:09   establishing shot of the cabin with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/969">TS</a>]

00:16:11   smoke coming out from the chimney and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/971">TS</a>]

00:16:13   and rod is doing his little introduction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/973">TS</a>]

00:16:15   and so it looks kind of rustic and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/975">TS</a>]

00:16:18   explains why things look a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/978">TS</a>]

00:16:19   different and of course the twist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/979">TS</a>]

00:16:22   spoiler horn is that she's on another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/982">TS</a>]

00:16:26   planet and the invaders are your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/986">TS</a>]

00:16:29   thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/989">TS</a>]

00:16:30   monsters are us once again oh now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/990">TS</a>]

00:16:33   all of the tools and everything she uses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/993">TS</a>]

00:16:36   head had to be specially designed just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/996">TS</a>]

00:16:38   for the episode so that they looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/998">TS</a>]

00:16:40   enough like what we would use on earth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:42   to be recognizable and yet when you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:45   back and watch it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:47   they look just a little more stylized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49   they look like a little bit different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:50   which and even that the vegetable or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:52   whatever is the children right sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:53   like a cab yeah chopping up doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:55   really look exactly like a cabbage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:58   distance really a potato and and I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:01   I wanted I want to just talk for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:03   second about the director because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:04   everybody talks about the writers Duggan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:07   is Douglas an eye of the beholder has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:09   got to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:10   oh yeah spectacular mean at least of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:12   the twilight zone episode during which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:14   he was kind of a journeyman director on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:16   television in the fifties and sixties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:18   and then went into movies a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:20   and and some of his stuff is just very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:23   straightforward you he wrote and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:24   directed several episodes of Maverick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:26   which you know there's kind of a shift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28   and but yet these two episodes he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:32   directed I think nine Twilight zones all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:35   together and and all nine of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:36   very good but these two are just really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:40   smartly directed and and especially in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:43   this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:44   one of my mother's tests for whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:46   something was a was a good story or good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:49   movie was you know back back then when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:52   you were you were flying across country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:54   they just had one giant screen so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:56   everybody was forced to watch the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:57   where they had headphones or not and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1077">TS</a>]

00:17:59   wouldn't get the headphones she would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:00   just you know kind of zone out and watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:02   the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:03   and usually she could tell what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:05   going on in the story just from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:06   visuals yeah this one you keep you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:10   if you're if you're just watching the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:11   visuals without the audio you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:13   quite get what's going on at the end if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:15   you're just listening and you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:17   the video you have no idea what's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:19   on at the end and this one you need both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:22   it's one of the few things where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:23   absolutely have to be paying attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:24   to get what's going on and that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:28   kind of a neat trick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:29   yeah this is it got to be a tough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:30   episode to produce just because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:33   what i mean there's the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:35   complications of you know making this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:38   alien without making it seem alien so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:40   you get to the twist and you aren't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:42   know spoiled on it but then there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:44   fact of the little dudes that had to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:46   basically puppets you know and and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:48   do you make them semi menacing when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:51   they're just like little fat guys little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:52   Michelin men walking around its kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:55   clothes sometimes that is really but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:57   know you can hold it off and look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:59   turning point is when they're shooting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:01   the Raygun adder it's not really that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:02   freaky and then though the one takes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:05   knife to work to her ankle and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:07   suddenly it make it takes a turn and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:09   actually is genuinely scary and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:12   i love this episode because it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14   it's a straight-up horror episode and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:16   there aren't necessarily that many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:18   those in the twilight zone can and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:19   mean it's usually more of a sci-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:20   aspect to it and this one gets to it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:23   the end but for the most part it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:25   a horror story and and this is written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:27   by Richard Matheson who that was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:29   kind of his specialty in a way it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:30   lot like do all it is the movie that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:33   hero with no dialogue with the guy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:36   the trucks Weaver ya Dennis we're so one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:39   of the things that struck me about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:41   while I was watching the invaders is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:43   like when TV series modern TV series do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:47   like stunts episode special episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:50   they are they are trying to be like The [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:55   Twilight Zone I mean the twilight zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:56   was almost all stunned episodes in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:58   way or another but the ones that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:00   got me were invaders and I the beholder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:03   which are both very high concept ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:05   like invaders there's no dialogue and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:07   of the beholder which we'll get to in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:09   moment is the way the cameras are moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:13   and the way the actors are moving so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:15   that you never really see the faces of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:16   any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:17   the characters until the big reveal at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:18   the end and I was immediately taken back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:21   with with the invaders in particular to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:24   hush the the silent episode of buffy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:28   vampire slayer which is just I mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:30   the same concept it's what if we had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:33   tell a story without dialogue and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:35   know the x-files did a bunch to do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:37   know what all those deer and Morgan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:38   episode of the x-files are like five or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40   six of them they are funny but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:42   also even more than the series as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:45   whole because I think David's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:47   that's sort of like what if what if two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:48   people investigated the twilight zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:50   every week with the x-files is they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:53   would have their get kind of kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:54   gaming episodes and I I just a it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:57   reminded me that a lot of that a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1257">TS</a>]

00:21:00   that stuff was done first and probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:02   inspired the the latter ones by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:05   twilight zone and the event invaders is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:06   a great example of that the the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:08   that stuck out to me and correct me if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:10   I'm wrong did didn't she started in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:13   terms of fighting with him she yes she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:16   kicks kind guy down oh I was watching on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:20   the whole and that the earth men shoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:22   first no I just could tell when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:24   were shot they were just know she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:26   bringing out she hides behind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:28   trapdoor and then the one comes around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:29   the trapdoor as anything about how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:31   doing we meet these guys we know are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:35   being like flickering and she kicked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:36   well okay maybe maybe ought to go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:39   and watch but i'm pretty certain that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:40   she can sit down the trap door and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:42   technically like it even in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:44   establishing scene where she's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:46   chopping the vegetables of whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:49   is and and if you listen carefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:51   again this is a really smart sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:54   design there's a little bit of music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:56   right and you're Indiana as she's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1316">TS</a>]

00:22:00   know dumping her vegetable into the pot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:02   she stirs the pot and there's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04   melodic tone that suddenly starts just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:06   taking over and right rising and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:09   turns out that's the ship landing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:12   then all the rest of the music drops out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:14   it's just that sound and she starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:16   clutching your head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:17   and.and that I think that headache is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:20   the thing that really triggers it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:22   so yeah they totally started agnes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:24   moorehead you got to say she straight up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:26   magnificent in this you know her facial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:28   expressions and the little sound she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:30   makes are there they're so strange there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:32   so off and I mean when she first here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:35   that spaceship and and she's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:37   feeling that you look like she's being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:38   deafened or something by it and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:41   just acting so oddly that you wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:44   well maybe this woman's maybe she's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:46   little touched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:47   yeah yeah yeah but no it turns out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:50   her mannerisms are strange because she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:51   giant space alien but you know you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:53   supposed to know that until the end and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:55   of course she doesn't say anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:56   either because if she started saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:59   like don't believe in loudoun globin or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:01   something it would ruin the surprise but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:03   instead she's got like these little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:04   guttural these guttural noises she makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:07   that are you know you could you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:09   see a human doing that but it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:12   sense at the end when it turns out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:14   she's not if she's a hermit living off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:16   by herself in the wilderness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:18   you know maybe she hasn't got any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:20   sounding years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:21   yeah I do want to say it is a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:23   depressing when they revealed that its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25   space probe number one that landed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27   this town talking about was it was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:29   first one it's gonna set the space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:32   program back like years it's one small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:34   step for man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:36   no Mon Air Force you should have known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:39   that was at the planet of giants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:41   come on i guess i'm a silly optimist I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:43   was hoping it was a reusable craft it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:47   the 9th mission of space probe number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:49   one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:49   okay that's what I was opening their you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:52   all right uh the eye of the beholder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:53   another another kind of gimmick thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:56   like i said that this is this is your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:58   showcase for the director and for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:00   lighting because that's what we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:04   going on is a a woman is her face is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:07   wrapped in bandages she's poor ibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:09   disfigured this is her last attempt at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:13   plastic surgery to correct her horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:15   disfigurement and throughout the episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:17   we don't see her face and we also don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:21   see the faces of the nurses and doctors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:24   who are taking care of her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:27   and you know i think part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:29   challenge with a lot of these twilight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:31   zone episodes with twists is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:33   the twist is a modern audience and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:35   have to kind of put yourself in the mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:36   of the story that they're trying to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:37   and what would have been like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:38   didn't know the twist and all that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:40   what I kept thinking about this episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:42   is you can read it as a nice bit of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:47   symbolism right like she's nice faceless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:50   and their faceless and it's only at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:52   end is like yeah but that's not it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:54   that's it's more it's more than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:56   happening here and again this is douglas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:58   Hayes bear in mind they only had like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:02   two and a half to three days to film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:04   these and there's a lot of blocking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:06   camera work for that yeah the blocking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:08   and the lighting and shadows now and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:11   movement there's a lot of movement to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:13   Allah camera the camera cam yeah because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:15   you know anyone who they're there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:17   several points where the doctor gets up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:18   and starts to walk towards the light and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:20   the camera has to shift so that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:21   nurse blocks his face right now there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:23   a lot of choreography going on this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:25   and a lot of creativity and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:28   filming when when they do the unbanned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:30   a'junk at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:31   basically they stuck a fishbowl on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:34   camera lens and wrap that in bandages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:36   that they could show it cutting away and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:39   getting lighter and lighter and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:41   know cutting back and forth to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:42   seeing the hands cutting the bandages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:44   away and things like that but that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:46   really clever way of getting that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:50   sensation of being wrapped in bandages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:52   for the point of view shot but yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:55   whole thing is so smart and it it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:58   sound if you get if you close your eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:00   and listen to it it almost sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:03   an episode of Ben Casey which I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:06   was intentional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:07   you know right down to sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:09   little soap operatic interactions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:11   between the doctor the nurse and the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:13   scene and and then you know it takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:17   that sort of interesting thing midway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:18   through where you know at first you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:20   think it's just a normal story right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:23   then up here comes a video screen from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:26   the the ceiling and it's time to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:28   the words of our leader you know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:30   had completely forgotten about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:32   whole that was illegal is the only thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:35   I remembered from having seen this over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:37   and over as a kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:38   what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:38   is the the a plot you know the the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:41   Harvey and Esther I completely i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:45   shocked when i watch this and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:46   there's the whole leader in the hole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:48   like this snow isn't God stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:50   already bits about the freaks being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:52   segregated in ghettos right now that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:54   where its setting you up for the twist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56   I'm not sure any of that stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:57   necessary to be honest I mean it's no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:59   i thought no i think it is absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:01   necessary because otherwise it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:02   about like you know people who look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04   different but this but the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:07   about the leaders saying stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:09   there's glorious conformity and everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11   got to be the same and we cut out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:14   everything that stuff is important to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:15   have one form and we must all conform to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:18   it that's right conformity is the key to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:20   survival he starts up and I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22   that stuff's overkill though I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:24   get the message without it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:25   maybe seems like you're kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:26   hammering point yourself I thought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:28   best part about that was the was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:30   their special effects on the fake TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:33   screens yes that are better than some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:35   the ones i see on TV today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:37   yes those were nicely done i love this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:39   episode for so many reasons like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:41   way it's filmed and the dialogue in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:43   way that they did not build it up but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:46   but it's it's the the leader stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:49   makes me like really watch this episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:50   because it really underlines like I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:55   like like when Mitt Romney talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:57   self-deportation back four years ago we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1677">TS</a>]

00:28:00   laughed at them and but what's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:03   what happened a couple days ago is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05   we have segregation going on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:08   country but it's self-segregation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:09   because we have people on the left you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:12   have no idea what's going on with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:14   rest of the country and we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:17   the Fox News bubble and everything and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:19   echo chamber but we had that on the Left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:22   where people never went into the country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:25   to see the despair and and people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:28   only have jobs working at Walmart and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:30   stuff and it's that political divide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:32   where instead of like the beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:35   people and the ugly people being divided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:37   it's like people on the right and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:38   left where they never black people white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:41   people never have lunch together and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:43   people from political parties never like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:45   sit down and just talk about stuff and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:49   think that's what's going on that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:51   like one of the things that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:52   talking about in this episode where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:54   conformity within each political party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:57   I think the one of the things that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1737">TS</a>]

00:29:00   going on here and there is a question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:02   right this is the message of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:03   episode you know it's all relative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:06   you know it's all in the eye of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:07   beholder do we we make these judgments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:10   but they're totally arbitrary and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:12   could be reversed and and it is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:14   or is there this extra dimension that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:16   the leader stuff gives you which is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:18   this is itself a an oppressive society [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:22   and that perhaps there's this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:24   other thing here where everybody is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:25   trying to look like the leader or he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27   looks like them and and you know it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:30   there a larger more terrifying kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:32   Conformity that's going on beyond the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:36   sort of more gentle conformity of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:38   little like it looks like everybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:40   like just naturally and that it it adds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42   another dimension I don't know if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:44   if I think it would probably be fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:47   without it but it adds that whole extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:49   dimension of the fact that this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:50   a dystopian fascist kind of regime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:54   that's happening here with this with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:56   this exalted leader giving his speeches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:58   on TV that it just it makes it that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:00   scarier and creepier and and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:02   explains her terror right because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:05   not it's not that she wants the surgery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:07   it's not that she's trying to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:09   beautiful quote unquote beautiful on her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:11   own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:12   it's that she knows she's gonna be a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:15   of trouble if she doesn't look like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:16   leader it looks like everybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:18   she's gonna be in trouble if she doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:19   she's gonna be segregated that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:21   very reason why it detract from the a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:23   fun for me which is that the it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:26   more effective for me I mean don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:28   me wrong I love that I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:29   probably one of my favorite episodes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:30   the whole series and I i enjoy the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:33   leader stuff it's it's all interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:35   but I feel like that the message that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:38   the main message that he's trying to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:39   across is basically just the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:42   the relativity of it and I think for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:44   the fact that she's horrified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:46   just because you know she's a wreck of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:49   woman just because she's been different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:51   as opposed to I she'sshe's different and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:55   that means that she's going to be killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:56   by the state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:57   I think it's much more effective if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:58   just that she's she's a ruined person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:00   just because people have always pointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:02   and laughed at her but you know again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:05   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:06   all that's all up to your personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:07   perspective I i think it attracts but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:09   it's a great episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:11   I the brilliance of of of having the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:15   fact that she's in bandages be used as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:17   the ploy to avoid showing the nurses and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:19   doctors faces is is so so genius because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:23   I mean the minute you see the script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25   you've got to be thinking to yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:26   how the hell man accept this is secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:29   until the end you know that I've got 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:31   minutes to kill it and we've got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:34   doctors and the nurses all talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:36   what's the excuse i'm going to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:39   do the ridiculous things where people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:40   keep walking in front of each other or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:42   the doctors just happens to walk into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44   shadow at the exact moment he turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:46   around and if that excuse is that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:49   can't see their faces so neither can we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:52   and so we're just being put in her shoes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:54   that's a great excuse i mean that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56   really works perfectly for me and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:58   don't notice it after a while you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:01   and be there a couple of scenes were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:02   just sort of jars right back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:04   it's like oh oh yeah we can see their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:05   faces but in a lot of cases there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:07   enough moments where you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:08   there's an overhead shot or a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:10   distance shot and it feels again it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:13   feels like a normal Hospital show of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:15   time the it i'm not sure of rod learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:20   the lesson of the show because the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:23   narration I and I notice the last time i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:27   watched to right he goes now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:30   questions that come to mind where's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:32   place when is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:33   what kind of world where ugliness is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35   norm and beauty the deviation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37   yes like right uh you just said beauty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:40   is in the eye of the beholder yeah okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:43   can you just upset at all the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:45   making fun of his snaggle tooth all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:46   those years in here he's trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:49   restate the premise for the 1960s TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:53   audience who might have been right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:55   i do think it's a little strange that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:56   the woman's deformity apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:57   includes full makeup mean I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:59   expecting that is a good well I will say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:02   though that the the pig face dr. idly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:04   smoking under his prosthetic as he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:06   flirts with a pic me and it might be my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:08   favorite yeah it's not image the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10   that it definitely worked a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12   and as far as you being in her shoes i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:16   found myself stuck with the thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:18   this was the 11th procedure and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:23   fact that she'd undergone this 10 times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:24   before the I was dwelling on the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:27   idea of you know we see your kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:29   come unhinged in this of course but how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:33   that's most likely been building over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:34   the course of you know the prior 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:36   failed attempts and and I found myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:39   just coming back to that over and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41   again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:41   well her bond structure flesh type many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:44   factors prohibit the surgical approach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:46   that's good science that's just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:48   signed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:48   so I think it's nineteen sixties medical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:51   science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:51   I think they probably on the up-and-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:52   based on that I was just confused at how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:55   after eleven surgeries that she she just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:59   looks flawless like smooth because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:02   really you in those guards you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:04   think they would be trying to like make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:06   her get the pig face right and then that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:08   we should see that she's sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:10   but that's not you know that's not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:12   they want for the big reveal but so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:14   are they doing they were doing surgery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:15   on her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:16   they are they're using some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:17   examples makeup know they're supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:19   be injecting her with some kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:20   chemical like an appeal like to hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:22   that it would be with like having over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:23   the reaction shapes the face little they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:27   could include latex your face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:28   yeah well cedar the the first time i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:31   watch this one with the boys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:34   my older son would have they must not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:36   good plastic cereal box that it's taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:39   them that long and she still looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:40   Elly May that's not right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:42   yeah it is a little strange that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:44   they're just using some sort of I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:45   know stem cell treatment or some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:47   weird dna-based thing that they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49   have to cover her face for a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:50   weeks not entirely sure what that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:53   about I we might be overthinking this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:55   yeah maybe a little bit links let's move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:57   onto maple street where the monsters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2097">TS</a>]

00:35:00   monsters are due there so this is a this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:03   is a this is a classic so we we acted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:07   this out as a play in my sixth-grade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:10   class or maybe yes sixth-grade class so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:13   i have fond memories of this because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15   it's not you have to get teach kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:16   young with the monster is us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:18   I say and that's what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:20   especially kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:21   yeah yeah so Claude Claude Akins TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:24   sheriff Lobo is in this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:26   and this is the kindest adventures as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:28   usual yes and this is the classic tale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:31   of paranoia where a spaceship passes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:33   overhead maybe ? the lights go out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:36   occasionally lights turn on and cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:39   start and things like that and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:40   entire neighborhood is convinced once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:43   one dumb kid tells them about a science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:45   fiction story he read where aliens were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:47   among the people during the invasion and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:50   look just like people everybody turns on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:53   each other they become super paranoid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:54   and I and a bad things happen in theirs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:59   and there's a ride and of course the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:00   of the big the big reveal in the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:03   last shot as i mentioned earlier is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:05   the aliens are there but they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:08   kind of watching the humans turn on each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10   other and they don't need to do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:12   more because we are we are the worst and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:14   we will take care of ourselves and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:17   they fly away in the Forbidden Planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:18   ship they do you gotta reuse spaceships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:20   again it's only want my big note from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:23   this episode is that charlie is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:26   worst that is pretty bad is the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:29   he's a loudmouth and then and then he he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:33   makes up when they start to suspect him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:36   he just immediately just makes up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38   somebody's I know who it is it's the kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40   the kid he did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:42   it's just that he's terrible he's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:43   worst but everybody the guy who spends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:45   his time looking up at the sky early in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:47   the morning because there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:48   wrong with that kind of a person yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:50   don't go out sometimes that or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:51   working on a radio yeah i love the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:53   that the scapegoat all it keeps changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:56   yeah my main note on this one is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:58   this episode really needs to be longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:01   than 20 minutes because in order for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:04   to get going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:04   they have to instantly take that kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:06   comic book plot seriously after you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:08   more really has happened in a power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:10   outage and a dead car battery and so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:12   whole thing for me comes off as a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:14   bit silly but you know they only have 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:16   minutes so what are you gonna do I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:18   to be fair this is what happened after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:20   the 1965 New York blackout so i'm pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:23   sure that lasted longer than 15 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:24   before you start losing their stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:26   let's talk about the link for a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:28   because this is one of those things or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:29   for 22 minutes about the twilight zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:32   that's interesting is some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:33   stories and I think some of the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:34   stories they have chest enough story to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:38   withstand 22 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:40   that you can never tell that story over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:41   an hour but over a half hour you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:43   it right like like the invaders is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:46   good example or even I the beholder like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:47   those are short stories they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:49   benefit from it sometimes there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:51   episode where where I agree Steve I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:53   look at it and I think wow you what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:56   have had to do a lot of work to pack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:58   this in here to this short timeframe and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:01   I think the monsters are due on Maple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:02   Street a good example that because this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:03   feels like a play to me this is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:05   play where it's claustrophobic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:07   everybody's out on the street and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:09   are turning on each other one by one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:12   you know it's it's AII that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:15   love about it but it does all happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:16   pretty fast like to turn abouts are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:18   ready yeah i don't know why i like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:20   like the patient intercepts oh and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:22   you know one of the things I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:23   liked about the twilight zone show that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:26   came on the eighties is that they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:27   the whole hour and they could tell as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:29   many stories right like two or three and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:32   then if the story was five minutes line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:33   to give five minutes and then you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:35   done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:35   yep r & and they didn't have to pad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:38   things out didn't have to stretch things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:39   and and I think that that worked really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:41   well because you never knew one that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:43   Kristin's coming right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:44   yeah i mean the the fourth season of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:46   original show was all hour-long shows in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:48   their boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:49   yeah there are a few that are ok but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:51   even the best of the emerges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:53   okay yeah and and there's a reason why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:56   they went back to half an hour just feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:58   like maybe an extra 10 minutes on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2338">TS</a>]

00:38:59   yeah just about right because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:01   ramp-up is just so fast it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:03   enough time for me to go in 15 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:06   forget all about Pete who walked over to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:08   the next block 04 shotgun iron I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:12   it's a mistake to zoom in on his hammer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:14   at the end that I feel like I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:16   at this point this is the only season 1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:18   episode we did and i think at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:20   they're still making the assumption that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:22   maybe audiences really are quite clued [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:25   into what's happening yet and so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:26   gotta make it real easy for him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:28   I keep having to remind myself on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30   hammer thing that you know this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:32   this is a preview our world so maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:35   know had no dwell on things a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:37   more because he only had one shot at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:40   getting everybody's attention and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42   telling them they couldn't run it back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:43   now i just i love the I love the dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:45   view of human nature here and and like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:47   said earlier you know there could be no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:51   aliens at the end of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:52   and it would just be that story right of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:55   a blackout makes everybody turn on one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:57   another and the aliens in the end just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2397">TS</a>]

00:39:58   are adding this little twist of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:00   look science fiction we can take over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:02   this whole but we can take them all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:03   because we're we're exploiting how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:05   terrible humanity is that like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:07   heads a little extra extra thing to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:10   but i do like this before that for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:12   and i'll make another reference to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:13   another episode the my one of my very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:16   favorite episodes of doctor who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:18   called midnight by Russell to davis and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:22   it is very much the monsters are due on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:24   Maple Street in a claustrophobic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:27   I'll in a kind of a space like a subway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:30   car plus that is stuck somewhere and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:33   everybody turns on each other and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:35   very similar kind of thing i love it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:36   it's dark and it's all about sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:38   human nature is is to be awful and turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:41   on each other and and I was every time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:44   I think of everytime i watch monsters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:46   are due on Maple Street I think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:47   midnight and vice versa because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:49   they're very similar and wonderfully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:51   written pull sort of play structure of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:54   low-budget because midnight is one set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:57   essentially and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:59   great acting performances and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:02   just get to see all the worst of human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:03   nature which I Joyce you know sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:05   those episodes where where it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:07   fear of the unknown working on you it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:09   very subtle this one is pretty much you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:11   know boom fear of the unknown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:13   something's happening what the hell's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:15   going on in everybody freaks out which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:17   is kind of cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:18   well this episode in the shelter which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:19   is to somewhere where the the bomb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:22   shelter and we turn each other it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:25   anyway it reminds me a lot of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:28   German movies that came out like 1925 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:31   1930 like between World War One World [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:34   War two like cabinet of dr. Caligari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:36   metropolis and am in the Blue Angel we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:39   have this veneer of civilization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:40   everyone's acting really nice but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:43   you just scratch right below the surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:45   and there's always pestering hate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:47   rage and and in anger and then just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:51   touch something and all blows up and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:56   kind of feels like America's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   bit like that now way to bring down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:00   room I swear you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:03   is it Frank its Frank exactly like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:07   not that hard like or he doesn't look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:09   like ass always is there oh wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:12   what's he doing in this country and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:14   like that's what they do in this episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:15   is like oh well they're they're not from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:17   around here they're from like Iowa or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:19   something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:20   I think the real moral of this one is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:22   you leave a group of people and you come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:24   back and its pitch black out and say hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:26   and see if ya me it's me Pete horn when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:33   your hip and say hey remember the hammer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:35   from before a couple couple things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:37   want to mention about this one because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:38   it is an early one it's the only season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40   1 episode this is the only episode that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42   we watched with the original music which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:44   when I was a kid you know the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:46   classic twilight zone theme is so iconic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:48   and and and everybody recognizes it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:52   the drop of a hat virtually everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:54   from you know 52 55 405 can can just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:59   know helmet but yeah and I never used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:02   really think much of this the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:03   Bernard Bernard Herrmann the opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:06   music which is mostly just HAARP but man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:08   I love it it's great it i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:11   almost it almost works better as a theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:14   song for me than the than the little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:16   too much on the nose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:18   avantgarde thing that they eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:19   switched over to ya that they switched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:22   over to mary's constant scoffs yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:24   which is really cool but the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:26   Bernard Herrmann what is unsettling it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:28   really does kind of put you in the mood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:30   for something weird thats to come yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:32   it's also beautiful but you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:34   gives you that sense that something is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:35   lurking just below the surface which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:37   think is great because and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:39   other only other thing I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:40   mention with this being an early episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:42   is that the ending aeration ends with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:45   the pity of it is that these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:47   cannot be confined to the twilight zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:49   and I think that might be I didn't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:52   back and look but that might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:53   serling's first open admission that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:56   is pointed social commentary is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:59   silly side for the kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:00   this is I'm pointing at you and saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:03   you're the real monsters people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:05   yep tune in again next week thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:07   think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:08   CBS how it makes you think doesn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:10   mhm we're all the monster i'm at let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:13   move on to the cornfield [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:16   yes home of of Anthony's is very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:21   it's good it's a real good thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:22   it's really good at taking this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24   choice that that's it's Cloris Leachman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:26   the realest leachman's in it and and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:29   are you mean great great bill movie I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:31   haven't watched this one since I became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:34   apparent and I'll one of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:37   just musing about it's a good life is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:40   you know kids are monsters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:43   he's just Anthony who's got this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:45   all-powerful it's like really it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:46   what if you had somebody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:48   all-powerful mental powers and was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:50   a kid and Anthony you know he's not he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:54   done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:54   I mean the whole beginning is he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:56   monster this monster is a little boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:58   haha but another level it's like he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:00   not really I mean he's no more than any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:03   other child he he all all kids are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:05   monsters at least from time to time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:08   the problem is that he is all-powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:09   and so he can conjure anything and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:13   things go away with his imagination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:15   which is let everybody around him to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:17   in this town that's been cut off from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:18   the rest of the world all that's left is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:20   his little town and they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:21   terrified a conscience yet that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:23   thing yeah exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:24   he still the completely ruled by his his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:27   whims you know child of six that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:31   would not want in charge of anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:32   know all the stuff that he's doing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:34   kind of awesome i mean like making he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:39   like made to TV go away and he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:42   produces TV on his mom with his mind and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:44   what does he want you want to start over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:46   fighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:47   yeah I would agree that there isn't yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:49   the only ok that scene is great because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:51   everyone everyone looks completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:53   horrified by the stop-motion dinosaur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:55   show is making it looks really good yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:58   it looks awesome at the beginning of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:00   episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:01   she's like making horrible monsters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:03   which are like three-headed frogs or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:04   something that's cool but then he kills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:08   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:09   I'll make him dead now I'm tired of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:11   playing with him somebody get Franco 32 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:13   gopher he makes he takes a guy and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:16   like makes them into a jack-in-the-box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:18   that's awesome man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:19   yeah like yeah like yeah like I might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:22   have stopped me their blessing but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:24   like see I think I think what they the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:27   town people misinterpreted this but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:29   really needed was like somebody like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:32   the show up and say like wow can you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:34   a four-headed frog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:36   how about five six seven and then like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:39   while he's like making all this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:41   really cool stuff for me then he's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:43   distracted by doing that and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:45   have been the head with a bottle exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:47   what else can think up but like like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:50   and asked me an afternoon like making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:52   cool stuff it's like hey you know arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:54   spaceships from alien and aliens like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:57   can you make those in the sky yeah sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:58   that's like we do that like for four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:02   hours i would be awesome when in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:04   this episode is kind of unusual in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:06   it's got one of the longest opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:08   narration in the whole series and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:10   there's a twist in the opening narration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:11   right yeah yeah it's it's really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:14   having you know he sort of introduces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:16   you to the 10 this is going to recognize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:17   it and it's this very small town and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:20   of a sudden the rest of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:21   disappeared in the town was left by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:23   itself and then he starts introducing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:25   you to the people and he gets in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:26   then mentions that there is a monster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:28   and they have to think happy thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:30   and then it gets it gets the point with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:32   you know this particular monster can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:33   read minds you see he knows every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:35   thought he can feel every emotion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:37   oh yes i did forget something didn't I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:39   forgot to introduce you to the monster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:42   this is the monster and you see Bill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:44   movies sitting there Billy hand on his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:46   fists looking really innocent and sweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:48   his name is Anthony fremont he's six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:50   years old with a cute little boy face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:52   and blue guyless eyes but when those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:55   eyes look at you you'd better start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:56   thinking happy thoughts because the mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:58   behind them is absolutely in charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:00   this is the twilight zone and there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:03   there's no artful like you know you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:06   the next signpost up ahead is the I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:08   it's just it's like this is the twilight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:10   zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:11   yeah that's at that tells me that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:12   learned from his experience of making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:14   the monsters are due on Maple Street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:16   like you know I screwed expositions fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:19   we'll just lay it all out there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:21   now we can get into the meat of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:23   yeah this one I think this I have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:25   this is probably my favorite episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:27   the show you're a bad man you see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:30   is the one that still manages to make me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:32   feel dread in the pit of my stomach that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:34   the tangible desperation on all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:37   characters as they walk around on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:38   eggshells is so tense and the way he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:41   casually throws things out like I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:43   make him dead now I'm tired of playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:44   with him or that's why I made him go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:48   fire he cheerfully says about some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:49   neighbor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:50   yeah it's it's just so horrifying and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:53   and it's it's monstrous even for early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:55   sixties TV and it's rough it's monstrous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:57   even for modern-day TV and in this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2937">TS</a>]

00:49:00   by the way this is the one that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:01   freaked me out the most is a kid and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:03   it's mainly because of dan Hollis his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:05   head on the jack-in-the-box bobbing back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:08   and forth with that impassive expression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:10   or did that freak me out the good when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:12   was a kid and and the looks on his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:14   parents faces through the whole show I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:15   mean Cloris Leachman as I mean she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:17   wonderful and John large who I mean he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:20   had a career through sixties and early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:21   seventies TV of looking nervous and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:24   guilty and mrs. like the most nervous he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:27   ever looked its mouth is great when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:29   gave birth to this monster that killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:31   everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:32   yeah I can understand why they won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:34   kill him it seems strange that maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:36   like the young guy won't do it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:38   mean they're just all terrified I that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:40   makes some sense but it's painful at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:42   end it's kind of a high noon sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:45   situation where dan hall as he goes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:47   on the limb he gets it he gets everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:49   already has anyone of you anytime now go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:52   ahead and clock him on the head with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:53   bottle or a lamp or something and no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:55   has the balls and the only does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57   Liam and then he's a jack-in-the-box and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:59   he gets wish to the cornfield and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:00   man it just it tears me up man this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:03   whole episode is just it's hard for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:05   to watch almost it's so tense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:07   it reminds me of the second pilot star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:10   trek where no man has gone before where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:12   they get that moment that the indelible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:14   moment where Jerry Mitchell's eyes turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:16   back to normal and it's like the moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:19   that you can get to kill him and then in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:21   Kirk hesitates and then the moment has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:24   lost its actually spoke is like killing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:26   that that's the moment here that tense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:28   moment where he's like I'm distracting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:30   him you could all kill him now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:33   nope no comes comes right out and says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:36   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:36   I know what ya up little deal when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:40   sterling passed away he was on the third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:42   draft of a feature film version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44   story and never got made you know i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:47   not sure it would be necessary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:49   I mean I don't think he's actually are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:51   20 minutes or whatever it is is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:52   perfect for this all you would be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:54   is adding more horror moments but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:56   know i don't think i could hack it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:58   on around you this what this is rough as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3058">TS</a>]

00:50:59   it is now I thought was perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:01   it doesn't without showing you anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:03   I mean it heat they tell us he has a 300 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:06   go for and he's holding this really foul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:07   looking tail up in the air but you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:10   kind of envision this poor thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:12   yeah but it doesn't know how he got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:14   called into being or that it's about to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:16   be killed just randomly probably in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:19   horrible way that's great so one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:22   things i like about this and and I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:24   to have to mention now and I i figure if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:27   I don't mention it Franklin mentioned so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:28   I'm going to mention now Frank they made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30   a sequel to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:32   oh it's still a good like the forest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:33   whitaker version so here's the here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:35   the problem with it in that one it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:36   like many years later and he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:38   Anthony's got a son or daughter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:40   people are still living in the play by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42   his daughter played by Phil mommy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:43   daughter and and Cloris Leachman said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:45   here's the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:46   one of the things that's great about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:47   it's a good life this original episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:49   is the tension about the fact that while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:52   Anthony is very good at destroying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:54   things he can't really create things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:57   that you see that where it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3117">TS</a>]

00:52:00   supplies are dwindling right and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:04   last scene where he makes it snow and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:06   they're gonna lose half the crops like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:08   part of the tension of this town is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10   just that Anthony is a monster who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:13   who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:14   you have to think good thoughts around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:15   all that it's that they are completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:17   cut off from the rest of the world with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:18   the rest of the world is gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:20   we've been at a bar soap for a year you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:21   know that exactly right there running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:23   out of everything so the sequel is dumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:25   because it just doesn't talk about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:27   and miss like now people are people live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:29   for many years with Anthony in the town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:31   and it's like no that's what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:32   terrifying about it is anthony kids a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:34   force of destruction can't make things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:36   and so they are all gonna die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:39   I think what I one of the reasons that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:41   like this is the claustrophobia aspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:43   of it is not just that there's a monster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:44   but you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:46   him in this little pocket universe and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:48   your supplies are dwindling and it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:50   know that just Ratchet it up another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:53   whole level you sense that piques bills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:55   got maybe like a six-month period yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:57   when everybody is either dead or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:59   lack of crops have killed you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:00   starved to death yeah like even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:02   Anthony doesn't kill them they'll starve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:04   to death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:04   hmm yeah and they're already done so but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:07   but you talk about the dark ending it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:09   just amazing right the snow comes down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:11   they're gonna lose half the crops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:13   yeah it's good that you did Anthony it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:15   really great and he's just a good thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17   you did you have Milan with his chin on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:19   his hand looking off into the distance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:22   with a wistful smile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:23   meanwhile and Amy who is given a stroke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:26   or something smiles in the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:27   right Andy me that's yeah she was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:32   only one who had any control over him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:33   but then she pushed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:34   yep because the thing is like he can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:36   know he can't make normal things he can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:38   only make crazy things like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:40   three-headed gopher right like if he if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:42   he he kills the corner with the snow but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:46   he can't make normal car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:47   no but he might be able to make like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:49   weird poison car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:51   yeah i'm not sure that he can't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:52   things I mean that the sense that I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:54   is that he created the gofer at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:56   beginning although it's possible that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:58   turned he turned it into a monster from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3238">TS</a>]

00:53:59   a regular go for like you did with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:01   pig maybe it's also a monstrous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:02   three-headed thing like he can create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:04   maybe you can create things but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:05   not any good right yeah like maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:08   corn would taste like something bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:10   candy corn it be des corn although he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:12   might just do that because it was funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:13   a shout out to Jerome Bixby or out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:16   original short story who like his kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:19   of forgotten even though he's the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:21   that wrote the mirror episode of Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:23   Trek and created like spoke with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:25   beard and everything right fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:27   voyage and read the whole genre like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:30   miniaturizing people and also it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:32   terror from outer space which is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:34   the basis of of the alien movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:37   he's kind of forgotten which i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:39   a real shame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:40   so nick of time I hate this upset me too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:44   why do we watch this one I think out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:46   all these episodes i think this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:48   only clunker and Rod Serling once said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:50   you know 30 episodes are probably really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:52   good sermon are ok and the third of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:55   are for the dogs and I thought this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:56   what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:57   well once for the dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:58   even though i love twilight zone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:01   richard matheson and in Wayne chatter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:04   and I really want to know who voted for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:06   this episode we didn't want the answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:08   is Dan and David both voted for nick of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:11   time so they're gonna have to explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:12   themselves justify this is one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:15   all-time favorite episodes because yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:19   I like terrible things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:22   no there is well Shatner Shatner and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:26   know there's only so much you can do but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:27   this is one of the episodes where maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:31   it's supernatural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:32   maybe it's not yes but it works either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:34   way and it works beautifully if it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:37   supernatural it's about the dangers of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:39   blind faith and superstition right get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:42   in superstition right and and there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:44   nothing supernatural going on if if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:48   want to see it that way if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:49   say ok the little fortune teller machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:51   is is controlled by Satan and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:53   keeping them in this town but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:56   it's just shatters character gets a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:58   fortune from it and goes hey I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:01   connecting this to things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:02   actually happening I'm justifying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:04   order up i'm figuring out like a full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:07   reading or something it's fraudulent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:09   yeah it's all it's all in his head it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:11   all superstition and magically gets the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:13   more the more that happens the more he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:16   slips into the mania of it and his wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:18   is trying to pull them back out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:20   finally breaks breaks the spell near the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:22   end and at the very end you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:25   like okay okay we're gonna walk out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:27   here and as they walk out we see another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:29   couple come in and sit down and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:31   guy just does the fortune machine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:33   says can we leave town today and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:36   Machine basically says it is not likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:38   or something like that and and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:41   okay here's a look at the slip and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43   you're stable just deflate right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:45   thats that's the one part of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:47   episode I like is the couple at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:48   at like 10 seconds at the end when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:50   couple comes in trying to escape the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:52   town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:53   ok dad Dan why did you pick next time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:56   well for me it was definitely there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:58   a nostalgic element to it so I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3418">TS</a>]

00:56:59   definitely remembered it more finely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:01   that I probably think of it now after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:02   having more just watched it but because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:05   i think this definitely fits we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:06   talking earlier about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:08   you know the the episodes that fill the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:11   time just right versus those that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:13   crammed in versus those I think like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:15   this one that are that are don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:17   quite enough material for ya think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:20   has a great button at the end and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:23   you know that last you know four minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:26   of it is is fantastic but there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:29   there is a little bit of a slog even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:31   with the 25-minute show i think i tapped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:33   the apple TV remote a couple of times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:35   where somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:39   yeah i mean the the acting is not great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:41   well it seems to have actually learn his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:43   lines for this one though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:44   yeah there are multiple let's show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:46   doing a good job but let's details we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:48   get the itemized bill of their time at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:50   the diner at one point I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:52   stated that yeah you're now looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:55   the world's youngest office manager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:57   oh ah really for me I do think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3477">TS</a>]

00:58:02   one thing that's kind of redeeming about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:04   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:06   remote from a social standpoint that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:08   know that at the time it was said the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:11   idea that a newlywed bride would be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:14   one to you know stand up to her her new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:18   husband who's the breadwinner and got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:20   this big promotion and all that and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:21   it really is heard that finally snap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:23   them out of it and then pulls them out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:25   of this you know this this superstitious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:27   mania and and is the one to say that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:30   wants to make things happen together not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:33   just find out from some machine and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:36   I I thought that was there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:38   something there that especially for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:41   for that time in the early sixties but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:43   she's clearly a very poor decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:45   makers she married this obvious lunatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:47   yes and she knows it from the start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:49   because spends the entire episode right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:51   from the very moment they sit down at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:53   the booth and there's a little fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:54   portion telling machine there she spends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:56   that entire episode looking like she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3536">TS</a>]

00:58:57   full of regrets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:59   what did i do I really married this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:01   cloud seriously yeah I think I think she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:05   starts acting the story about 15 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:07   before she should be right she knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:10   yesterday is going where is she should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:11   actually kinda like him at the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:13   like all your so silly keeping putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:15   putting more pennies in this stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:17   machine it's hard to be the voice of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:18   reason the voices and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:20   forgets to drive the plot never gets all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:23   the voice of reason gets the USA like mm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:25   no that's stupid iphone her initial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:28   regret was was just not taking up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:30   diner on his he was really pushing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:32   chicken fried steak yeah I know takers I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:35   watched it home yeah I know do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:36   raised a good sounds good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:38   Shannon just wants us like us little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:40   sandwich come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:42   yes i got like a better and radio said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:43   like a BLT here watching his way to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:47   is not even any friggin meeting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:49   gotta be spelled to be the world's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:50   youngest office manager well the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:52   steve is that is that if he eats the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:53   chicken-fried steak you know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:54   gonna happen is that he doesn't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:56   switch from his standard office manager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:58   shirt into a slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58   shirt into a slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:00   four seasons rally round is on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02   blouse man if only shattered even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:08   tomato and let us say this is over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:09   course of his weird I i am impressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:11   that they ordered an iced coffee at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:13   end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:14   yeah only had really well that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:16   the second ice coffee is it was in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:19   itemized bill is on the docket yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:21   that's right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:21   yeah I no wait i mean we went over it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:25   what what I like about this episode is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:26   that is that it could be nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:28   supernatural at all and it is a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:31   curing of of people who are super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:33   superstitious like really superstitious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:35   and like oh I don't wanna touch this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:37   right i don't want to step on this or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:39   things like that and this is the this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:40   the extreme which is you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:42   believe in this thing and it will just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:44   ruin your life and it's stupid and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:46   should just leave and he and the push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:48   and pull between the two of them I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:49   like that but yeah it goes a little too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:51   long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:52   yeah there's no real attention to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:54   because from the start it's clear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:55   Shatner is a dingus and I quiet forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:58   have to admit a story that is based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3658">TS</a>]

01:01:00   this is stupid we should leave is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:02   ok i'll agree to that I just think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:04   could have been executed better so we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:06   gonna leave nick of time behind now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:08   because people have regrets and the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:12   one on the list of assigned of shows was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:15   night of the meek so we go from one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:18   my least favorite that sense to one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:20   my very favorite that's so you love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:23   suicide Carney as the as the drunk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:26   department store Santa Claus this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:28   special in a lot of ways and that it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:31   it's got the twilight zone form but uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:34   and you're waiting for the horrific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:36   twist and in fact halfway through you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:38   get the sort of the twist where he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:39   like going to be arrested for stealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:41   everything and any and the twist is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:43   of delightful and fun and not dark at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:45   all which I find great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:47   the only problem I have with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:48   episode is this comes i looked it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:50   from a span of six episodes where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:53   thought they would save some money by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:55   shooting on video videos it looks like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:58   live TV stage production looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:00   these it would be so much better if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:03   was on whatever they normally used for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:06   comes to Huck it's a shame because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:08   would feels all wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:09   it does but it's still great this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:11   episode i think is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:13   example of the really sappy side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:15   surly and the thing yeah serling's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:18   Serling scripts whether it be for his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:21   earlier work or for twilight zone for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:24   pretty much anything there's a star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:26   comparison between him and Matheson and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:28   Charles Beaumont who we really should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:30   have done an episode with him writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:31   but ok the thing about sterling is every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:34   one of these episodes that he writes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:36   there's a real like even the ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:40   are dark there's a sense that he's he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:43   trying to tell us this because he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:44   hope for the human condition you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:47   you you always get the the sense that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3767">TS</a>]

01:02:49   you know even that even at our darkest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:51   there's he's really pushing for us and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:54   this this one is just an example of him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:56   just outright going for sap straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:58   straight up and in the midst of watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:01   a bunch of other sort of more depressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:02   episodes it really comes across as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:04   unbelievably sweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:05   yeah I think that's what I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:07   appreciate I mean I mean the sympathy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:10   further for poor people and talks about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:12   you know and you get nothing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:14   Christmas because we don't have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:16   money and the only thing that comes down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:17   the chimney at Christmastime is is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:19   poverty and like the only way that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:22   can respond to this is by having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:24   compassion to for each other with love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:26   for other people by like stopping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:29   someone's trying to turn left and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:31   letting them go are like stopping when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:33   people are trying to like cross the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:34   street and that's what we need to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:37   like respond with love and compassion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:38   even though it's done on videotape of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:42   those six episodes this is the only one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:44   that's even worth watching more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:46   once it is just so wonderful and even at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:49   that i don't know that it would work as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:52   well if it weren't for art car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:53   II I mean handwrite beautiful is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:56   casting and he he is that character he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:59   just lives it with with a look he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:01   doesn't even have to say anything and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:03   you know his his life story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:05   yep yeah the biggest problem with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3845">TS</a>]

01:04:07   episode for me is that the poor kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:10   don't look poor enough i need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:13   shorthand at the kids I mean they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:14   they're very well-dressed and very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:16   bundled up and they don't look dirty at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:18   all and they just they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3858">TS</a>]

01:04:19   ragamuffins you know I understand that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:21   not really you know the you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:23   necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:24   not all not all poor people wear rags [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:26   you know but for shorthand you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:29   they walk up to him and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:30   demanding gifts I need to see them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:33   actually look destitute or else they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:35   just some kids who are demanding gifts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:37   you know especially when one of them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:39   asking for a job for daddy later though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:42   after after asking for 14 other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:44   that are more rational little kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:45   demands they finally get to that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:48   thing that actually points out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:49   they're hurting you no I totally agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3889">TS</a>]

01:04:51   on this being very rewatchable I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:53   this is you know it was it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:55   pleasant surprise to to come maybe rifa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:58   militarized with this one and I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:00   keep a partly and thanks to this show a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:03   very eclectic mix of things I try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:06   watch every holiday season and i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:08   to make sure that the this episode gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:10   inserted into that you know that Q this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:13   is a good one for that there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:14   couple things i wanted to note about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:16   this 11 is as somebody who loves Miracle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:18   on thirty-fourth Street I like that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:20   is like the reverse of Miracle on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3920">TS</a>]

01:05:22   thirty-fourth Street where you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:24   in miracle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:25   there's a there's a drunk Santa right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:28   who loses his job and then they hire the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:30   real Santa Claus and here the drunk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3930">TS</a>]

01:05:32   Santa loses his job and discovers the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:35   spirit of Christmas and become Santa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:36   Claus it's like that's another path to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:38   being Santa you could do one or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:40   other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:41   there's there's some options I i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:43   enjoy that and the other thing i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:44   mention is that his name is corwin and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:48   that is a that is a reference to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:51   norman Corwin who was a I think mentor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:54   of Rod Serling's and was a blacklisted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:57   screenwriter he came out of the world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:59   radio yeah and and also notable because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:01   there's a Babylon 5 character named [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:03   Corwin for the same reason because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3963">TS</a>]

01:06:05   was also a mentor of J michael [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:07   Straczynski so every time i hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:09   character for when I go oh yeah I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:11   that's normal or when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3971">TS</a>]

01:06:12   referencing Norman Corwin there he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:14   hugely influential if you look into his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3974">TS</a>]

01:06:17   Wikipedia page he he was one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:21   pioneers of doing more than just soap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:24   operas and stuff on radio you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3984">TS</a>]

01:06:26   all know Orson Welles and where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:28   world and everything he was doing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:30   koren he was following Corwin's lead on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:32   that stuff is just can't in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:34   yeah yeah what's with all these games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:36   Bullock and it's so great though that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:39   such a great moment of like hey you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:41   hey you people who are jerks you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:43   what you get garbage you make garbage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:46   come out of the magic bag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:48   how do you feel now you mentioned how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:51   great art carney is in this and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:52   really just one in a long line of great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:54   Christmas shows that he did culminating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:55   in the star wars holiday special but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4015">TS</a>]

01:07:00   john fiedler pickle his own bad self [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:03   oh my gosh herb you and the moment where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4023">TS</a>]

01:07:06   he's pulling cans out of the bag and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4026">TS</a>]

01:07:08   then he pulls out an upside-down cat is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:10   super hot and then what does he want he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:14   just wants someone cherry brings the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:16   cherry brandy antigen 1983 yeah it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4036">TS</a>]

01:07:18   all right and darker as Rapunzel oh good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4038">TS</a>]

01:07:21   year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:22   wow well oh not this episode is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:27   like in in a lot of the other twilight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4047">TS</a>]

01:07:30   zone episodes there's this fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:32   element and people are like scared and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:34   horrified by it but here is like wow I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:37   get to be Santa Claus that's lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4057">TS</a>]

01:07:39   whereas you have the movie The Santa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:41   Clause where guy turns into sand flies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4061">TS</a>]

01:07:43   like yeah there's never a holy crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:47   moment here is there he just did the bag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4067">TS</a>]

01:07:49   falls over he sees their presence and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4069">TS</a>]

01:07:50   just start shoving back in and runs out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:53   into the street he's ready to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:54   handing them out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:55   yeah exactly what it's almost like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4075">TS</a>]

01:07:57   was Santa and he got drunk and forgot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4077">TS</a>]

01:08:00   sort of like ever it reminds everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:03   oh yeah that's what I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:04   alright but yeah I mean this is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:07   where it's not fear of the unknown but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4087">TS</a>]

01:08:08   it is still the unknown working on it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4088">TS</a>]

01:08:10   like what bag full of gifts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:14   yeah well he's loaded so he's ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:15   embrace it the only other note i have is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4095">TS</a>]

01:08:18   that this is one that really would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:19   benefited from the original theme being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:21   in the end credits because yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:24   very sweet moment at the end he flies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:26   off in his sled and john fiedler says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:28   you god bless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4108">TS</a>]

01:08:30   whatever it is miracles or something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4110">TS</a>]

01:08:33   then suddenly theory or do you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4113">TS</a>]

01:08:35   think it's completely distorted it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:37   creepy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:38   so I mention the twist earlier that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4118">TS</a>]

01:08:39   twist is like literally he goes down an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4119">TS</a>]

01:08:41   alley and there's a sled and reindeer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:44   and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:45   it's just it's just a while it's like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4125">TS</a>]

01:08:48   ok alright i was impressed that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:51   actually got real reindeer and a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:53   elf now just some kid I'll suit but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:56   great episode i love this up so it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4136">TS</a>]

01:08:58   be made me laugh that that's it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:00   his thing is like you get to be Santa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4140">TS</a>]

01:09:02   Claus now come on let's go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4142">TS</a>]

01:09:03   once again he's not he's not concerned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:05   about it only just hops in the seat and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:07   let's go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:08   no I what I liked about it was it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4148">TS</a>]

01:09:10   know I I kind of feel like the modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4150">TS</a>]

01:09:11   version of the story would reveal that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:13   he was Santa Claus all along or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4153">TS</a>]

01:09:15   something like that it's like no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:16   Santa Clauses you know like you now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4156">TS</a>]

01:09:19   could be Santa Claus if you truly have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:21   the holiday spirit them they might come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:23   for you when put you in this led i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:26   know i mean he's an unrepentant drunk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4166">TS</a>]

01:09:27   but he's got the spirit does he Santa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:30   Anna's got a lot of spirit lot of spirit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:32   yeah that's for sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:33   why most of what most twilight zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4173">TS</a>]

01:09:35   episodes like people fight the twilight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:37   zone includes they're just crushed at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4177">TS</a>]

01:09:39   the end there and I you know killed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4179">TS</a>]

01:09:41   the the devil dollar you know whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:43   and in this episode like has a happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:46   ending which is the same as our that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:48   great and and the way that it just talks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4188">TS</a>]

01:09:52   about compassion friend and love for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:55   Humanity just just warms my heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:59   yeah there are a fair number that end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:01   wistfully but i think this may be one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:03   the very few that and straight up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:05   happily so I now that we've reached the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:07   end of these episodes we should say we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:09   didn't watch the ones that everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4209">TS</a>]

01:10:10   knows everybody knows what we kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4210">TS</a>]

01:10:12   did these are these are all we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:14   really watch they just talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:17   yeah i watched about 20 even even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:19   ones that we talked about these are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4219">TS</a>]

01:10:20   fairly well-known episode it's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:22   probably lay these plots out to be but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4222">TS</a>]

01:10:24   nightmare at 20,000 feet and to serve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:26   man seemed so obvious that we didn't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4226">TS</a>]

01:10:28   into it i will say that i did watch to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:31   serve man and I thought it was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:32   not good that man was kind of dumb and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4232">TS</a>]

01:10:38   meritorious fetus is fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:40   that's that's got lots shattering oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4240">TS</a>]

01:10:42   it's got all the shatner actually built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:44   you know the nice thing about nightmare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:46   at 20,000 feet is I like the end because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4246">TS</a>]

01:10:48   you really are set up for it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:50   he's a madman nobody will ever believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:52   him and the last line is basically like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4252">TS</a>]

01:10:54   oh but then they're going to see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:56   was on the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:56   and they're gonna realize that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:58   really a monster the end goodbye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4258">TS</a>]

01:11:00   it's like that's different that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4260">TS</a>]

01:11:01   key right he regains his sanity he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4261">TS</a>]

01:11:04   proves he's saying at least tonight yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:06   and that's why you know as good as John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:08   Lithgow is in the movie it doesn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4268">TS</a>]

01:11:11   because yeah they think he's insane and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4271">TS</a>]

01:11:14   then he gets driven away by dan Aykroyd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4274">TS</a>]

01:11:16   at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:16   yeah but see the cat wasn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:18   talking he just thought oh maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:20   interviewers were taking his purse pound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:22   on we saw that thing that was peeled up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:24   on the way so do you want to do bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:27   out your dead round of episodes we love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:30   alright so let's let's not gonna take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:32   David's suggestion before we go and wrap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4292">TS</a>]

01:11:33   it up if there are other episodes of The [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:35   Twilight Zone that you want to put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:36   shout out to now would be a good time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:39   David what does this is a hugely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:41   influential show for me I would you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:42   I just love the series but if I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:45   narrow it down i would i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4305">TS</a>]

01:11:47   it's hard to pick between Jack Klugman's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:50   episodes i love all of them and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:52   different reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4312">TS</a>]

01:11:53   there is a scene in praise of PIP which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:56   kills me if it killed me before I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4316">TS</a>]

01:11:59   children but now that I do it is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:02   gut-wrenching but and a game of pool is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4322">TS</a>]

01:12:05   terrific and you but it's it's a passage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:08   for trumpet where he plays a trumpeter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:10   who's gonna give up he's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:12   nothing is working for me is just gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4332">TS</a>]

01:12:14   walk out in the street and kill himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:15   and he runs into who might be the angel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4335">TS</a>]

01:12:20   Gabriel who talked him down and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:23   just the the the the span of heartbreak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:28   to joy and all the emotions in between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:31   the clubman does with his face it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4351">TS</a>]

01:12:34   astonishing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4354">TS</a>]

01:12:36   I love the jack klugman episodes alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4356">TS</a>]

01:12:40   you take the jack klugman episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:42   alright Frank what did we miss that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4362">TS</a>]

01:12:44   love to that the howling man which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4364">TS</a>]

01:12:47   the one where they capture Satan and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4367">TS</a>]

01:12:51   obsolete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4371">TS</a>]

01:12:52   yeah yeah I love it so preachy no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4372">TS</a>]

01:12:57   nobody's been in a good way anybody but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4377">TS</a>]

01:13:00   in a good way in a good way it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4380">TS</a>]

01:13:02   the importance of books I can get behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4382">TS</a>]

01:13:03   that's right yeah and and again talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:08   totalitarian States you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4388">TS</a>]

01:13:10   it's Weaver all he's awesome yeah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4390">TS</a>]

01:13:13   Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4393">TS</a>]

01:13:14   what are your ones did we miss that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4394">TS</a>]

01:13:16   love well for me I had it I've had an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4396">TS</a>]

01:13:19   opportunity recently in in recording my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:21   show to catch up on one Jonathan I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:24   think we hit tonight and that's the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4404">TS</a>]

01:13:26   war genre that the military episodes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4406">TS</a>]

01:13:30   I've been fascinated and rewatching some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:33   recently about realizing that in a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4413">TS</a>]

01:13:36   before PTSD was acknowledged as a as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4416">TS</a>]

01:13:39   actual condition and then what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4419">TS</a>]

01:13:41   effects of of being a fighting man and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4421">TS</a>]

01:13:45   more time were in world war two and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4425">TS</a>]

01:13:47   Korea immediately preceding the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:50   being on the air it's it's been very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4430">TS</a>]

01:13:53   interesting for me to watch some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4433">TS</a>]

01:13:54   episodes where very clearly the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:56   writing staff certainly himself others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4436">TS</a>]

01:14:00   working through some of their own issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4440">TS</a>]

01:14:01   and in exposing some of this and in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4441">TS</a>]

01:14:05   time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:05   previous nom when you know people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:07   haven't seen war on TV so much and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4447">TS</a>]

01:14:11   the episode that comes to mind is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4451">TS</a>]

01:14:13   quality of mercy from my season 3 it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4453">TS</a>]

01:14:17   and we talked about all the Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4457">TS</a>]

01:14:20   cast in there Leonard Nimoy's in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4460">TS</a>]

01:14:23   one and in a in a very young girl little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4463">TS</a>]

01:14:29   his name escapes me at the moment Dean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4469">TS</a>]

01:14:30   Stockwell the only disturbing thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4470">TS</a>]

01:14:32   about some of these to me looking back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4472">TS</a>]

01:14:34   was there so there's some pretty blatant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4474">TS</a>]

01:14:37   you know a casual racism of the time in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4477">TS</a>]

01:14:40   in depicting Japanese soldiers and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4480">TS</a>]

01:14:43   of that but but the message about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4483">TS</a>]

01:14:46   horrors of war and all that i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:47   is a great thing that they cannot hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4487">TS</a>]

01:14:49   upon a few times but that's one episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4489">TS</a>]

01:14:51   that sticks out for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4491">TS</a>]

01:14:52   alright Steve what about you now I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4492">TS</a>]

01:14:55   got a lot of dead i'll go through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4495">TS</a>]

01:14:56   quick okay mostly like the real creepy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4496">TS</a>]

01:14:59   once those are the ones that always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4499">TS</a>]

01:15:01   stuck in my head as a kid and so i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:03   just go through those most of those the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:05   after hours in which and Francis is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4505">TS</a>]

01:15:07   mannequin but she doesn't know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4507">TS</a>]

01:15:09   that was super creepy something in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:12   dark which i haven't seen in years and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4512">TS</a>]

01:15:14   feel like probably isn't as good as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4514">TS</a>]

01:15:15   remember it but that's the one with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:17   Robert Redford is trying to get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4517">TS</a>]

01:15:19   he's an injured he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4519">TS</a>]

01:15:20   your policeman or something yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4520">TS</a>]

01:15:22   yeahs nothing nothing in the dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4522">TS</a>]

01:15:24   the woman outside is nothing in the dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4524">TS</a>]

01:15:26   that's it that's it and the woman in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4526">TS</a>]

01:15:28   house is afraid to let him in because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4528">TS</a>]

01:15:30   she's afraid to die and it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4530">TS</a>]

01:15:32   he's in fact death but he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4532">TS</a>]

01:15:33   compassionate is really solid in my in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:37   my recollection but I will watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4537">TS</a>]

01:15:39   again and probably hated living doll and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4539">TS</a>]

01:15:42   remembers living doll that's the talky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:43   Tina episode or telling survives know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4543">TS</a>]

01:15:46   he's a jerk he deserves it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4546">TS</a>]

01:15:48   ya know it's yes definitely you root for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4548">TS</a>]

01:15:50   them dollars now you can tell the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4550">TS</a>]

01:15:52   your daddy I never root for the doll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4552">TS</a>]

01:15:55   uh yeah like you wouldn't that make some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4555">TS</a>]

01:15:57   long-distance call which is an earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4557">TS</a>]

01:16:01   bill movie episode where he talks to his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4561">TS</a>]

01:16:03   dead grandmother on the toy phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4563">TS</a>]

01:16:05   oh yeah and she wants him to join her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4565">TS</a>]

01:16:08   yeah that's good and freaky to which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4568">TS</a>]

01:16:12   elizabeth montgomery and Charles Bronson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4572">TS</a>]

01:16:14   fighting fighting it out in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4574">TS</a>]

01:16:15   post-apocalyptic the dummy because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4575">TS</a>]

01:16:19   has a dummy in it and the guy turns into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4579">TS</a>]

01:16:20   the dummy at the end it's really freaky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4580">TS</a>]

01:16:22   totally traumatized me another good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4582">TS</a>]

01:16:26   conformity based one number 12 looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4586">TS</a>]

01:16:28   just like you have that one of the masks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4588">TS</a>]

01:16:32   in which the guy forces his narrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4592">TS</a>]

01:16:34   well family to wear different masks did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:36   that represent their various flyballs as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:39   the will is read and then at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:40   they take off the mask in their faces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4600">TS</a>]

01:16:42   are permanently molded into the shape of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4602">TS</a>]

01:16:44   whatever it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4604">TS</a>]

01:16:45   that's a good one and the 1i another one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:48   that I haven't seen in years but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4608">TS</a>]

01:16:49   remember being very moving when I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4609">TS</a>]

01:16:50   kid is the big tall wish in which the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4610">TS</a>]

01:16:53   young boy wishes for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:56   down-on-his-luck fighter to win a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4616">TS</a>]

01:16:59   particular fight and he does but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4619">TS</a>]

01:17:00   the guy refuses to believe that the wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4620">TS</a>]

01:17:02   had anything to do with any suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4622">TS</a>]

01:17:04   finds himself flat on his back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:05   ring and it turns out that because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4625">TS</a>]

01:17:07   didn't believe in the wish he ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4627">TS</a>]

01:17:09   losing the fight and that's a good one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4629">TS</a>]

01:17:12   yeah that's it so I'm going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4632">TS</a>]

01:17:15   monster we're all the monster jro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4635">TS</a>]

01:17:17   martyrs and i'm going to say you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4637">TS</a>]

01:17:20   what has a what what has all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4640">TS</a>]

01:17:22   surprisingly number are good number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4642">TS</a>]

01:17:24   stories it's the 1985 revival of The [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4644">TS</a>]

01:17:26   Twilight Zone where you can find such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4646">TS</a>]

01:17:28   excellent stories as the star shattered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4648">TS</a>]

01:17:31   a paladin lost our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4651">TS</a>]

01:17:33   play a message from charity a matter of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4653">TS</a>]

01:17:35   minutes in episode that is not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4655">TS</a>]

01:17:37   great and yet I think about it at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4657">TS</a>]

01:17:40   once a month I think about this random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4660">TS</a>]

01:17:42   story from the 895 twilight zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4662">TS</a>]

01:17:45   they did a cold equations adaptation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4665">TS</a>]

01:17:47   that's pretty good and the best perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4667">TS</a>]

01:17:49   episode title ever crazy as a soup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4669">TS</a>]

01:17:51   sandwich so it's that said lastly it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:55   harlan ellison but there's some really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4675">TS</a>]

01:17:56   good ones in there it is an 80 show it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4676">TS</a>]

01:18:00   you know they made some bad mistakes as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4680">TS</a>]

01:18:01   well but i think the the tragedy of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4681">TS</a>]

01:18:04   is I think creatively were pretty solid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:06   and they had some tone issues with CBS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4686">TS</a>]

01:18:10   big shock and the network kind of lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4690">TS</a>]

01:18:12   support for it and then they basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4692">TS</a>]

01:18:14   sold it off and acidification and gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:16   up and it's too bad because there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4696">TS</a>]

01:18:17   actually some very good stories and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4697">TS</a>]

01:18:19   mentioned earlier the advantage of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4699">TS</a>]

01:18:20   hour-long format what they would do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4700">TS</a>]

01:18:22   they would do these various lengths one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4702">TS</a>]

01:18:25   so they have some short short ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4705">TS</a>]

01:18:27   are like little almost like little jokes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4707">TS</a>]

01:18:29   that go for five minutes and are done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4709">TS</a>]

01:18:31   that were there's there's a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4711">TS</a>]

01:18:33   one where I think Ron glass is the devil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4713">TS</a>]

01:18:35   that's really great so don't pooh-pooh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4715">TS</a>]

01:18:39   the the eighties twilight zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4719">TS</a>]

01:18:41   really it's not the same kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4721">TS</a>]

01:18:44   is the one from the sixties but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4724">TS</a>]

01:18:46   some good stuff there too so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:48   that's my plug palette of the lost our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4728">TS</a>]

01:18:50   is one of my very figure out what all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4730">TS</a>]

01:18:52   also Harlan Ellison yeah with with danny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4732">TS</a>]

01:18:55   kaye also i'll put a plug for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4735">TS</a>]

01:18:57   opening credits of the eighties twilight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4737">TS</a>]

01:18:59   zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4739">TS</a>]

01:19:00   it's really creepy and weird and cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4740">TS</a>]

01:19:01   and they have a stylized version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4741">TS</a>]

01:19:02   theme song performed by the grateful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4742">TS</a>]

01:19:04   dead and there's a like I strike hazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4744">TS</a>]

01:19:08   smoky like ghosts of Rod Serling who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4748">TS</a>]

01:19:10   appears briefly in the opening credits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4750">TS</a>]

01:19:12   it's pretty cool so yeah that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4752">TS</a>]

01:19:14   that's my plug for for that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4754">TS</a>]

01:19:16   charles81 actually who was in a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4756">TS</a>]

01:19:18   of class equality on episodes was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4758">TS</a>]

01:19:20   narrator and was really great as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4760">TS</a>]

01:19:21   narrator of those it's a fine yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4761">TS</a>]

01:19:24   unfortunately then when they put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4764">TS</a>]

01:19:25   syndication they redoubled all of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4765">TS</a>]

01:19:27   narrations and ruined it but the race [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4767">TS</a>]

01:19:29   Robin war yes well they they made they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4769">TS</a>]

01:19:31   made in canada and J michael Straczynski [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4771">TS</a>]

01:19:33   worked on that show and and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4773">TS</a>]

01:19:36   episodes are not badly written but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4776">TS</a>]

01:19:37   they're cheap and made in Canada so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4777">TS</a>]

01:19:40   know and they look at and they look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4780">TS</a>]

01:19:41   all right well we have we have been in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4781">TS</a>]

01:19:44   the twilight zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4784">TS</a>]

01:19:45   submitted for your approval [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4785">TS</a>]

01:19:47   four panelists enter a strange dimension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4787">TS</a>]

01:19:49   known as a podcast I don't have a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4789">TS</a>]

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01:21:38   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbKS6C8/4898">TS</a>]