The Incomparable

00:00:03 ◼   ► the incomparable number 285 January 2016 [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► welcome back everybody to be [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► uncomfortable i am your host Jason L we [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► are here to convene an addition of one [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► of the most venerable of incomparable [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► clubs the comic book club ye old comic [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► book club [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► joining me to talk about uh we're going [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► to read two traits or we've already read [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► them but we recommend that you read them [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► ms marvel by G willow Wilson volume 1 [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► and 2 is what we're going to be [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► discussing the issue that's issues 12 11 [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► if you prefer the single issues in paper [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► or digital but there are readily [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► available trade paperbacks of of ms [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► marvel actually four volumes but we're [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► just going to talk about the first two [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► we recommend you read them we're we're [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► talking about them because we like them [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► so you go read them and come back [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► perhaps and listen to podcast after you [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► do read them and and to talk to to me [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► about this [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► joining me for the conversation our [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► star-studded group led by led by in in [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► my order first in the order in which [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► i'll introduce them Tony sindelar hi [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► tony i would not attracted me first this [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► is that was a classic first-round draft [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► hello nerds [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► these are just introductions although I [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► like the way you think that every time [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► i'm interested in introducing a panel on [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► the incomparable it's really a little [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► draft it's not it's just introducing [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► people [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► Lisa Schmeisser is out there I wouldn't [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► do a comic book club with at least that [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► lisa has been part of the comical club [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► since the very beginning [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► hello hi this is the best book club ever [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► yeah it is it is weary comics and then [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► we talk about the monopod county also [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► joining us for our comic book club uh [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► one returning comic book club member she [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► was on I think maybe the last comic book [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► club we did it's shannon sudderth hello [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► ave keys and a brand new comic book club [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► member its lien sims hi hi welcome to [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► the club [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► yay I'm so excited he remembers heard it [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► was written on the back of an old comic [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► book and that's amazing no uh-huh effect [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► sound effect rustling rustling anyway we [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► are here to talk about ms marvel of G [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► willow Wilson this is so ms marvel has a [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► a long history [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► dating back to the seventies when what [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► if we had a superhero up a lady [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► superhero with the newfangled title ms [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► that was pretty much the whole concept [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► at that point it was like the feminist [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► superhero in a very 70 sort of sense and [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► I oh I'm old enough to remember that I'm [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► old enough to remember the ads for that [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► in the in the marvel comics but that was [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► Carol Danvers who has gone on to get [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► promoted to be captain marvel with it [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► thanks to the death of the old Captain [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► Marvel Comics what you're going to do [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► and so ms marvel was laying there as a [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► as a unused property in heaven forbid [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► that Marvel Comics will leave any of [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► their intellectual property unused so [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► interesting thing happens [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► g willow Wilson comes in and revives the [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► ms marvel label with a story about a [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► young woman from New Jersey she is [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► muslim she's from her family's from [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► Pakistan and she's growing up in New [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► Jersey and her family's fairly [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► conservative and one day she's out on [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► the streets of New Jersey and gets [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► enveloped in the Terrigen mists because [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► Marvel doesn't do mutants anymore they [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► do in humans and she's granted powers [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► and and and uses as her sort of ideal of [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► who she'd like to be Carol Danvers in [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► her more classic ms marvel appearance [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► and that begins the story of young [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► Kamala Khan and learning about being a [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► teenager with superpowers in a very [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► traditional in some ways Marvel Comics [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► setup of being the the the teenager who [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► has to juggle their personal lives along [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► with their superpower responsibilities [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► it's a it's an interesting mix of things [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► we haven't seen for marvel comics before [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► and things that go back to the beginning [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► of the modern marvel comic line so [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► that's ms marvel in a nutshell [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► I'd like to thank my guests no no reason [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► he was like a little bit about your your [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► thoughts about ms marvel to kick us off [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► I love this book so much for so many [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► reasons and I was a fan of g wilson when [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► she was writing for vertigo she wrote a [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► series called air that being on classic [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► to go tradition it's really weird really [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► fast but she you know she's always had a [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► real skill for plotting and nice [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► dialogue it zippy but not to reflexively [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► smart-aleck II and what I really like [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► you can never go wrong with a villain [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► with the head of it but they have a [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► cockatoo [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► but what I weird what I loved about it [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► is it is such a compassionate book like [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► that is the word that kept popping back [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► when i was reading it over and over [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► again because the parents aren't [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► monsters here you know the moment in the [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► mosque is not a monster like the classic [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► premise seems to be Kamala's like what I [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► feel very awkward because you know i'm a [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► Pakistani girl and most limited school [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► that's predominantly white I don't fit [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► in my parents of all these expectations [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► my religion has expectations but the [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► message that she gets from the people [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► that she's the most worried about [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► disappointing on the message that she [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► gets there very supportive messages it's [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► just be compassionate do the right thing [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► and so long as you're doing with the [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► right intentions and you're doing an [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► honorably you're going to be fine [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► whatever you do and that they're so [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► unintentionally supportive it's it's [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► against a really compassionate way to [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► look at it entire the entire community [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► people around Kamala and I liked her [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► heard I liked her take on very much like [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► look just because we're generation looks [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► at our phones doesn't make us worthless [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► and just g wilson had tremendous amount [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► of sympathy for like everybody in the [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► book from almost every angle there there [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► are a few over bad guys in classic [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► marvel tradition but like nobody come on [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► his life is malicious they're supportive [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► in their own way you know she's got the [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► best friend that goes on and it was the [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► kind of book where I'm really looking [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► forward to reading it trade by train [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► just to just to slip back into this [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► universe where people know each other [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► and look out for each other and offer [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► new perspectives on what it means to [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► become an adult because of all this book [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► is about is how you become an adult with [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► the radical transformation from child to [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► adult what you stand for [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► I think it's interesting that you [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► mentioned that the parents because I [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► that the parents are a complication not [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► because they're bad because it gets [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► awfully complicated when you're a [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► teenager and you have to sneak out in [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► order to be a superhero [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► yeah they're they're not there they're [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► annoying because their parents not [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► because they're jerks or media or or [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► even because their organ because they're [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► Muslim like exactly you know that's Adam [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► as a matter of fact one of the things i [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► like is how it points out that her faith [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► can actually be something that helps you [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► become a better superhero because [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► religion and marble they have like a [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► really weird to rocky history like the [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► guy i can remember really ham-handed [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► x-men plot worker bogner is being [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► manipulated by like a rogue faction of [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► the Catholic Church installed as a pope [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► of and no I kid you not like this is [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► something that went on like in the last [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► 15 years to which is bonkers but you [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► know generally speaking they tend to [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► treat religious a wildcat wild-eyed [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► cultures are doing things and I don't [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► think we've ever had an examination of a [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► mark a superhero who doesn't exist in a [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► vacuum or an origin story but rather has [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► a very complicated background that she [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► really loves and doesn't want to leave [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► when she she has the-the-the i forget [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► what his title is I'm gonna get screwed [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► basically they basically say you need to [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► go talk to the guy at the mosque the [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► Imam yeah isn't my mom and she's like a [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► man like the Intel in the every role [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► role in my role of a teenager just like [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► kind of going to make me [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► it turns out he is the wisest of all and [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► and she gets the most out of him and [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► it's such a nice moment where you've [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► been set up as Oh even more [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► complications she's being sent to the [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► principal's office essentially by being [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► told you need to go talk to your mom and [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► he's and he's like you have things to do [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► your being responsible [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► somebody's going to come and train you [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► basically an basically be you will talk [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► to overrate later [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► yeah I even get to how much i love that [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► plot yes yes that was hilarious just [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► bringing in it was the perfect foil and [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► it was like such a nice inversion of [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► Wolverines relationship with other young [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► women that he had where you know he [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► takes on Kitty Pryde and trains her or [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► he takes on Jubilee and train sir um and [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► this time you know it was interesting [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► because it's like I don't want you to [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► grow up too fast but he's also like [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► hyper aware that because he wasn't [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► healing factor anything she's going to [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► have to take the lead both tactically [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► and superhero wise [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► and I i liked the inversion because [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► Wolverine is is I feel sometimes like [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► he's a little bit of a deus ex machina I [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► like when in doubt throw the [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► invulnerable fighting machine at [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► somebody and it's nice that they didn't [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► do that and I really love the dynamic [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► and i like how again compassionate [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► because he's like I just don't want you [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► grow up too fast you don't need to be [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► exposed to things before you're ready [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► and then when he handles the Inhumans [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► he's like no respect her wishes should [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► do this independently and they do [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► yeah some of my favorite panels are in [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► those scenes to I just like there's one [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► that's like in a dodge speak so she's [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► like really excited there's like dodge [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► panel and then and there is a panel [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► where they're like weaving their way [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► from the lower levels of the sewer up to [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► the top of certain yes so so well done [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► it's just you know this conversation and [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► it just flows across this two-page [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► spread really naturally it's easy to [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► read but it's just it it's amazing like [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► i love it i just said i stare at that [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► panel i like when they first meet and he [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► like grabs the the alligator and it's [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► like punching and she's like I don't I [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► don't want to punch it out like a she's [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► good yeah no no it's fine if it's no [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► effect that he had alligators and lasers [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► on their heads all i could think it was [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► some austin powers and shark see how [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► hard is it to get destructive frickin [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► lasers [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► I like the inventor I mean I just I had [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► assumed that you know i like that we get [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► a new superhero and a new villain in the [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► ceramic right it's not just like you [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► know you have to work your way up [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► fighting the see list of Marvel villains [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► that are available for us you know but [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► no the-the inventor when we talk about [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► Runaways you know we're talking about [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► sort of new characters in a new setting [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► that still has some marvel stuff in it [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► and I was reminded of that because again [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► you've got a young hero here but also [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► that it's a new setting and it's not [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► even though [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► yes we're talking about the two issues [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► were Wolverine drops in which is a lot [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► of fun but but the the big picture is [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► that it's it's you know that the [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► inventor that it's much will be a new TV [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► series or something right there's a [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► there's a big bad in the first few you [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► know in the first few trades and he's [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► new and she's new and the supporting [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► cast is new and there are a few [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► characters that come in from our [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► cool but it's not just another remix of [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► existing marvel stuff which is it's kind [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► of funny because it's like that the [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► jersey city's setting where they're like [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► across the river from New York City and [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► it's like we're in the shadow of the [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► Marvel Universe but like we're also like [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► you know we're not that far you can [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► drive to the marvel universe from where [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► we are but you can see that there are [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► but there are no other superheroes in [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► jersey city [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► well there's that heartbreaking one [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► where they said yeah but capes and [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► tights crowd doesn't take much interest [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► in missing children and I was like that [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► that's one little line but that says so [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► much about the inequity the inequality [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► that's in antiquity really that's built [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► into the marvel vs that were and the [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► fact that the guides that Kamala has [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► gotten from the adults that she trusts [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► around her all her life have driven her [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► say no I'm staying in jersey city this [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► because they need me here like rather [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► than be just another human or just [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► another Avenger i'm going to take care [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► of my home and my school and actually do [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► something and like the when when Bruno [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► first finds out and asked her how she [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► had she's wondering how she's gonna [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► superhero and he's like you can always [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► hold press press conferences like Tony [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► Stark [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► ok just let you know you encapsulate you [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► know the the arrogance or the on the the [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► privilege [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► yes that character has the thing i love [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► so much about it is it and it's about [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► compassion and hope like it the heart [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► it's it is about growing up but it's [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► about equally like figuring out how to [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► how to be compassionate how to be true [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► to yourself and and how do how to hold [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► out hope in the face of like dire [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► straits you know there's some pretty [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► major things that happen [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► it looks pretty bad towards the end the [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► the things we're not talking about in [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► this particular episode bit like it's [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► like oh I'll hoping lost and and she's [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► still like know where we're doing this [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► thing and that's the thing i love so [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► much as that and especially since and [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► with what's happening in the real world [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► right now with the tension between you [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► know the United States and Muslim [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► populations and you know it's i don't [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► know i think that there's there's [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► something here that we need to take away [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► the the importance of having us [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► table and supportive environment for [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► kids is what actually comes through and [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► i think another reason this book feels [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► so refreshing is um I'm a huge longtime [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► leader of the x-men and I'm i think this [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► might actually be the first teenage [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► origin story that so far has not [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► included dead parents estranged parents [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► parents will blind you from the get-go [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► parents were members of a cult cult [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► parents were members of who heard [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► time-traveling members from a generation [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► direction here anyways [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► no and I'm thinking about like even in [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► the New Mutants you have sam three who [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► goes to work in mind because his dad is [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► killed and you know Danny Moonstar like [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► her parents turn into the ghost bear you [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► no apologies are spoiling up a series [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► that's spoiler two years old these new [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► yes mam rain Sinclair was cast out onto [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► the moor is ungodly and beaten by [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► Reverend until she was adopted by you [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► know where a tagger then there's all the [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► classic x-men origins stories and again [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► The Runaways or you look at the Avengers [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► where tony stark and his father front [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► relationship and by contrast you know [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► Kamala is surrounded by people who love [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► her and support her and I think for a [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► lot of readers that's actually a lot [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► more relatable and this may actually [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► provide a guide as to how to become your [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► own person [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► well you know also being able to hold [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► onto the things that you draw strength [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► from and that you love and that you [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► treasure so this feels like a radically [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► different book to me in you know [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► compared to the classic teams that have [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► people the Marvel Universe Runaways [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► cloak-and-dagger for example you [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► anything else [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► yeah i was reading ms marvel vol 1 i'd [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► also just read the new background vol 1 [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► which I like but it's it doesn't have [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► the same kind of joy that this is that [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► it's also liked the character is like [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► very much a hipster and it made me feel [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► old so even though this character is [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► younger like that the story is just much [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► more full of like fun enjoy and and you [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► want to root for them in a way that you [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► know if i'm not anti hero but but I [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► particularly want to root for this [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► character I mean just even the moment [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► where she kind of you know she's in you [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► know the the right place at the right [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► time to save not her friend like her [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► classmate and realizes like the feeling [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► of saving that that girl is like that is [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► what i want to [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► all the time basically like that like [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► that felt really powerful first compared [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► to other stories especially because like [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► she's a kid and she's just trying to [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► make her way [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► well i just love as a fan of spider-man [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► from way back [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► who likewise comes his parents are dead [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► he's being raised is uncle is dead now [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► he's just being raised by his aunt but [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► it reminded me of that in the sense that [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► the burden that that Kamala carries it [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► reminded me of parkersburg a little bit [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► there's not there's not guilt there but [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► the point is her parents are [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► disappointed in her because they think [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► she's sneaking out to do bad things when [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► in fact the sad thing that she can't [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► really reveal to them is that she's [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► sneaking out to do good things and her [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► brother who is very religious and kind [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► of super holier-than-thou right and [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► super slacker than that taking yeah [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► right at me and he's like you know I'm [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► I'm cool I'm cool one here I'm the one [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► that everybody loves and you know she's [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► the one who's out there doing this then [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► and I love that tension right that that [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► you know she can i'm not i'm not sure I [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► entirely by how I just can't tell anyone [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► my secret because there's way too many [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► secrets in fiction or reality that don't [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► make sense hello I'm looking at you all [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► the air the flash and arrow by the way [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► home to many secrets but mom but it is a [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► beautiful bit of tension for her that [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► she is she is it her parents don't care [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► that she's sneaking out to do good even [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► if they knew because she's sneaking out [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► alive [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► I think the reason she doesn't tell them [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► is because she knows if she did they [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► would worry even more like it's easier [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► for her to have her parents mad at her [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► than ever parents worried about her [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► this week's episode of the incomparable [TS]

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00:17:27 ◼   ► previously maybe flowers every month or [TS]

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00:17:32 ◼   ► a special woman in your life and it is a [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► panties of the month club I said it you [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► heard right [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► these are super nice high-quality [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► panties think about this as a [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► subscription gift for Valentine's Day [TS]

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00:17:47 ◼   ► here's how it works you can send a month [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► or three months or six months or 12 [TS]

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00:17:56 ◼   ► high-quality boxes they're surrounded by [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► rose petals is definitely serious [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► romantic vibe that comes across from the [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► enclosed selection every month they're [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► not cheap and they're not meant to be [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► cheap you wouldn't want cheap for a [TS]

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00:18:23 ◼   ► you are looking for something to do as a [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► very nice gift for valentine's day and [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► beyond [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► check it out in close lingerie calm / [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► smell and use code snail to get [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► twenty-five dollars off any multi-month [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► order and she's going and coming [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► alongside what tony was saying and she's [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► so relatable to me as a nerd [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► mhm you know she's the first thing she [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► does she's like okay like I i I've got [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► the superpower now I need to go to the [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► internet and figure out what's happened [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► since you can like queries [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► yes she's writing fanfiction she's ready [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► and yes she plays world of battlecraft [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► into someone who uses a world of [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► warcraft I'm like yes you know in in her [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► fan fiction is like the Avengers on a [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► unicorn homeworlds like I mean it's just [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► I relate to this you know twice your age [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► but I'm like I relate to you Kamala Khan [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► yeah very much so that early leader but [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► yeah [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► hello Wilson just so nails current [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► teenage a internet culture in so many [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► ways with all of the reference which is [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► hard yeah it is hard [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► I feel like a lot of people kind of a [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► pit and this comes across as like no you [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► don't you don't actually get what this [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► looks like right you're just you know [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► mix mix it together buzzwords to try and [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► convince that you do they just make [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► dismissive comments about emoji and make [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► it is what is driving this reason [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► they're you get this is this is what a [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► teenager is like what it and it's not [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► just it's not just a ploy in order to [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► have her be more of an outsider which [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► would which is another way they could do [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► it right and say well you know she's a [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► nerd and she's she's a Muslim and all [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► these ways where she's being ostracized [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► like she's got her friend group she you [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► know and and she walks the walk she is [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► she's a dirty person and that's true but [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► she does all the nerdy things and she's [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► she's a fully-realized person in that [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► way and it's not just a let's you know [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► let's put [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► again let's put glasses on Peter Parker [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► and people will beat him up and and you [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► know and put them over in that box she [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► she we see her being nerdy kid and not [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► having a problem with it's like these [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► are the things she does she writes fan [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► fiction and she plays video games and [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► it's fine it's all fine [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► yeah and even the other kids around her [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► you know that they're not bullying her [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► they're just being snotty I'm you know [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► miss concerned role that just you know [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► that they're only because it's that the [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► other girls only so perfectly that she's [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► just blindly and you know half aware and [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► half ignorant and mushes it altogether [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► and just keeps shoving her foot down her [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► throat you know that even those [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► characters are nicely rounded and be [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► like you said it's not the old classic [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► simplistic you know we're gonna go beat [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► up on the nerdy people instead you know [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► we're going to think we are being [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► supportive and think we're being helpful [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► and then we're just being as jerky is [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► anybody [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► mhm what do you think about the about [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► that so we're in her origin she gets [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► exposed to the Terrigen mists and and [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► what happens to her first I and I think [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► this is really interesting is she [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► becomes carol danvers as ms marvel she's [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► blonde and your big blond beautiful you [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► know white cartoon your comic book sir I [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► this is this horrible outfit the classic [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► marvel outfit right me the the little [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► drapey thing in the whole it's going to [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► register the tactical advantage that [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► sash distraction is all i can think of [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► consistently or was there a [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► manufacturing defect and that's to hold [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► it up [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► I don't know but I think it's really [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► interesting because it's about a you [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► know this is a story about identity to [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► and it's interesting I i'm interested in [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► the fact that she doesn't manifest [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► powers she manifests as up another [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► superhero like this is this is who she [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► wants to be and it's not Kamala Khan [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► that saves that school made its carol [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► danvers essentially as Marvel yeah [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► that's like her first instinct is you [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► know to become her idealized idea of the [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► other one superhero is [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► and you know it takes a while to figure [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► out that no i don't have to be you know [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► that person I don't have to be someone [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► else i can do this my way I can be [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► myself and still do this so i think [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► that's just sort of a natural part of [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► you know a teenager going for what they [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► think they want and then learning me [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► know that I'm okay this isn't doesn't [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► fit like I thought it would and they [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► gradually got come around to find what [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► does fit for them [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► one of the things i remember from [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► adolescence is how people tried on and [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► constructed different identities all the [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► time and how code they were like the [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► theater kids have their own distinct [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► look and feel and you know the the crew [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► team that understands look and feel and [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► then you have the the heart the hardcore [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► you know skater crab hypocrite and so on [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► and so forth and this seems to be almost [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► a metaphor for that we're because you [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► know Kamala's already pitch and holds [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► that were at school like when she tries [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► on the Carroll debt Danvers identity [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► then discovers it doesn't fit you know [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► this is just another part of being you [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► know just another part of cycling [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► through those those identities i was [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► also think it was a good thing she did [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► that first because if you had Kamala [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► Khan running around saving people like [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► that before she really knew how to [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► master her powers or how to get away [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► from the scene that would have been just [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► like it would've been a three-issue [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► serious run but that didn't happen so it [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► was just it was it was nice tight [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► plotting and that's another thing i [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► really like about this book is how [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► intelligently it's structured because [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► you know every beat is is perfectly [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► timed it perfectly placed there's no [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► there's no slow laggy spots and there's [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► no issues that feel too crammed full [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► it's just really nicely paced yeah i [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► mean vol.11 hugo award right [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► yes I believe so yes you did when I got [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► that said that the pics that the guy [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► with the head of a cockatiels never not [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► going to be funny though people okay so [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► that the it's a very active when your [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► blood that thinks it's thomas edison [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► already as Thomas Edison it is time I [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► don't want some Thomas Edison but the [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► club managed to get some cockatiel DNA [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► doesn't like the Flies origin stories [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► yeah okay so acceptable [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► yeah since I don't adorable i don't know [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► there are some scenes were like the [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► tongue was loling and I was like now I [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► do maybe I don't need that [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► well it's somebody's a little freaked [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► out by birds i think so i don't i don't [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► love I don't love that character i have [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► to sound I think that that's the thing I [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► like least in this whole first story arc [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► is the the inventor himself although it [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► is a bizarre reveal that he is Thomas [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► Edison would you go figure [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► so many questions that's a little played [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► out for you Jason [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► yeah I thought many times are seeing you [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► know you know there was the there was [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► the squirrel Nikola Tesla I would be a [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► pigeon Nikola Tesla obviously no no it's [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► just love that dare not speak its name [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► between schools and pigeons what are you [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► talking about Tony I know you were on [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► this I I just he's just kind of boring [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► though i mean i know i don't i don't [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► find him a particularly compelling [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► villain on honestly and I i thought it i [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► think it probably took a long time to [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► get to where the plot was kind of [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► grinding away on that that that was and [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► maybe this says something about how much [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► more interested I am in kamala finding [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► herself than I am in this initial arc [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► with this initial set of villains and [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► then kidnapping the kids and her her [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► going to investigate then he and there's [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► a fake-out right where it's like we [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► think we're gonna get a resolution but [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► it turns out that he's just been [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► watching her and there's more to come [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► and then she has to do another thing and [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► I just I wasn't interested in that like [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► I was with her story and and so in the [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► end I you know every time that the [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► inventor would appear to be like shut up [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► bird with that Jason I actually that [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► that's something when i was listening my [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► pluses and minuses for the book my [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► biggest minus was that when it turned [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► back towards the typical comic book hero [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► fight villain kind of thing I felt like [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► it lost a bit of the personality [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► I mean you just that the funniest things [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► to me up for the inventor was basically [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► when Kamala would point out your bird [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► and he get mad you know his I've been [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► studying you and here's some other [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► weakness I found you know that got old [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► for me quite a bit but i am not a bird [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► yeah but throw it in his face that he's [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► a bird and that was funny and that I [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► like any losses my agree with what [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► you're saying about about [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► it's sort of losing its way a little bit [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► during that part the Inca it is he [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► probably hang around a lot longer than [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► you know he's probably he's kind of one [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► joke villain and we get the joke about [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► four times so i think some people some [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► people like that you and he doesn't seem [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► to be that much of a mastermind [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► no I mean yeah well I wondered when [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► Thomas Edison turned really evil like [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► you know how did some she not going to [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► reduce your water on industry watch [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► drunk history math tells you everything [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► you need to know what they really just [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► did inventors episode where they tell [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► you what a rotten terrible person Thomas [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► Edison was in stealing the patent for [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► the telephone [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► ya ali and how many how many elephants [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► do you have to kill before you before [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► you judge someone as evil as the answer [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► is one [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► the answer is 11 college kill any [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► elephants really that's because you're a [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► superhero not a super villain island [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► that's the litmus test how many [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► elephants would you kill 0y a superhero [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► i cannot pass yeah sure [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► sweet use your cape fitting isn't it was [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► a chart it's like 0 and then 1 2 [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► everything else about should not onto [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► almost rockers good job Tony the [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► elephant scale it's it's common commonly [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► note i I'm what do you think about one [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► of the things that I think is [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► interesting about the models powers is [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► that she is she's able to kind of just [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► transmuted her potty and all sorts of [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► wacky ways and given the art style of a [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► lot of these issues I think you wanted [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► some with Adrian our phones are [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► especially new is it kind of lightens it [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► again it has a personality of its own [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► that she's got these like super wacky [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► like a big hands and long legs and stuff [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► that that is it's really dynamic and it [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► doesn't really remind me of anything [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► I've seen before I guess their moments [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► where I think you know this could be [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► like when Reed Richards stretches it's [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► just like he's like a rubber band played [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► or something when she doesn't it's it's [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► dynamic she's you know she's gotta see [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► has mass and goof late [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► yeah like that's a real thing is that [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► like she's like like when her hands [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► giant and she can't control it like it [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► is awkward and not just like you know [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► awkward she's I mean awkward teenager [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► put in manifested into powers right [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► everything and all your body body parts [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► are doing wrong [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► Fang and I really enjoyed that uses that [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► she loses this uses simpsons reference [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► within biggin yes but yea disabilities [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► been stressed isn't big enough you can [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► get you should get back but I mean not [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► to get too much down the old literary [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► analysis of there but I i like that [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► because I feel like that actually said [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► something about her at any teenagers [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► fundamental kind of disconnect from from [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► the themselves in their body that she's [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► she's she's goofy and it and funny [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► looking at times even when she's [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► exercising powers and saving people [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► because that's what it's like to be a [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► teenager is you not all all perfect and [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► her powers aren't the kind of super [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► gleaming perfect kind of powers that a [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► lot of superheroes have their there a [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► little bit goofy and that's just she [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► that's just turned that sushi I look [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► flawless well i generate Cyclones this [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► benefit thing [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► yeah but i also love how come you know [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► as she's learning her power she's also [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► you know she's a nerd she's knows her [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► science and she's trying to apply things [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► you know ok more mass miracles equals [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► hate more force longer legs made you [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► know technically I'm not running faster [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► but i'm running farther things like that [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► you know and then it occurs to hurt you [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► know 20 swell her head and then head but [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► the the giant robot and discover yeah [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► that hurts but um but it works things [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► like that and the fact that she you know [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► it takes her of what once in awhile [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► takes awhile to realize wait a minute i [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► can shrink too and this time that works [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► that the fact that she can go both ways [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► that she can make herself bigger she can [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► make herself tiny and figure out what [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► the best thing to do in each situation [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► is the uncomfortable is sponsored by [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► Fever born from number one New York [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► Times bestselling author karen marie [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► Monning Mac barons Reardon and Jada are [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► back and mistakes have never been higher [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► or the chemistry hotter hurling us into [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► a realm of labyrinthine intrigue and [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► consummate seduction fever board is a [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► riveting tale of ancient evil lust [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► betrayal forgiveness and the redemptive [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► power of love once a normal City [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► possessing a touch of ancient magic [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► dublin is now a treacherously magical [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► city with only a touch of normal and on [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► those war-torn streets Mac will come [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► face-to-face with her most savage enemy [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► yet herself number one New York Times [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► bestselling author sylvia day says no [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► one does it better than karen marie [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► Monning read fever born the exciting new [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► book in the [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► epic fever series available now at fever [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► born book.com yeah going back to the [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► wolverine thing you know they're they're [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► dropping down i don't know a story or [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► two into the water of the sewer and [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► she's like oh you know like I need to [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► shrink so i can break the surface [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► tension with you know about killing [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► myself and I I i like that it its and [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► yeah it's kind of science ii it's quick [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► thinking too and I appreciate that where [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► you know a lot of i'm new to comics but [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► the ones i've read often times it's just [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► like well you know like I'm going to do [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► a thing and the thing is done and you [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► know and kind of like the internal [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► thought process that we get with Kamala [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► she's like oh this is why I'm gonna do [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► this thing she's new hero to so she's [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► the idea is also figuring it out which [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► is which is fun to see indeed we talked [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► about in humans a little bit yes please [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► it wasn't Lisa I know it's gonna have [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► been about this is not a mutant she's an [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► inhuman there's a charity charity and [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► missed there's a whole overarching [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► storyline that is not really that [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► important to the to the particular story [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► here other than that it's the it's the [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► method by which she you know it's not [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► bitten by a radioactive spider or hit by [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► toxic waste or radioactive waste or [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► whatever or born a mutant it's this mist [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► that sort of activates her inhuman [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► powers so there's that aspect of it [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► which I think it's is a different sort [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► of thing and then we do get later in the [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► story line we get her interacting she [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► has a large dog who visits her who is [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► lock jaw who is one of the craziest and [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► funniest characters in the Marvel [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► history perfectly deployed if there was [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► ever a book to have a connection with [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► such a a delightful and goofy character [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► as the giant inhuman dog with the tuning [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► fork on his head [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► it's it's miss marvel to perfect fit and [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► ms hola [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► jalisa inhuman stuff thoughts about that [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► when I centimeter and inhuman and it's [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► such a smart origin story in so many [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► ways because so you can have you can [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► have humans popping up to the entire [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► series run because look those Terrigen [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► mists long way but my other thought was [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► wow this is really opens up the door to [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► having her in future [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► mar MCU movies because and or two [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► TV show because they've taken her out of [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► the that they took her out of the [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► classic you know it's it's a team let's [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► go with all the teams doing freaky [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► things off to Charles Xavier you go [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► um and I was thinking about this and was [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► like we can see come on a common [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► adventures movie which honestly using I [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► would know I was thinking about this and [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► I was like okay my and I apologize for [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► being from it by promising me back to UM [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► one of the things that as a viewer of [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► the MCU I'm beginning to get a little [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► bit tired of is it's basically a bunch [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► of people who are my age who haven't had [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► a carb since the bush administration who [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► are you who are you know busy shooting [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► arrows and running around the suit or [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► hulking out or whatever and I thought [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► this is kind of ridiculous city all ages [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► and what we need to do is we need to see [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► people who are younger or we need to see [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► people who are different and you know [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► not and not dudes and I get that they're [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► ramping up on the human stuff in agents [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► of shield which I'm still watching but I [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► thought we've already established in [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► humans are in this universe like that's [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► what agents of shield has done [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► why can't we see come on in a movie and [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► and I thought and and I thought will [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► meet this book was kind of launched that [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► intention was sort of a backdoor like [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► it's all it was a huge splash she gave [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► you and comics but it's kind of like a [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► sort of well she's well established in [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► my life in fandoms there's no reason for [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► her not to be included as opposed to if [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► they had just thrown her into an [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► avengers movie or one of the MC movies [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► early on i think the focus would not [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► have been on like what a great character [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► she is and when interesting and fresh [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► backstory and what inventive way she [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► uses to do her job within like oh it's a [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► Muslim team and like it it would not but [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► you know she's gonna get a safe launch [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► as it were [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► that said always but I i'm always been [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► fascinated by the Inhumans just because [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► it's such a weird whack-job promise like [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► Black Bolt alone i'm like what the what [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► the aliens but their honor their kind of [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► human-like but there's a mean it sounds [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► like a weird royal dynasty scheming [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► thing going on you've got a dude who [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► literally can't say a word because if he [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► does he destroys the universe but he's [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► married like the chattiest woman on the [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► planet and [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► and she's got hair that doesn't [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► something and a big dog [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► alright I'll of lavo is adorable and you [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► know Medusa's just kind of wack job [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► herself it's like is it like this is [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► somebody who every time I look at videos [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► I'm like listen to log for a most don't [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► you and I fight I read I but I'm [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► thrilled that come on was actually an [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► inhuman because like one that when it [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► finally hits her to it's going to be [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► another piece of identity that she's [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► gonna have to reconcile with being a [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► desi girl in America and with being [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► Muslim and being a jersey it--and then [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► she's going to have to go out do I you [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► know how do I break my parents that I'm [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► also apparently part alien [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► well which means but some of them are 22 [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► yeah yeah I I as a fan of Buffy I i [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► always think of these stories being [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► perfect for TV to idea that you can do [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► it because then you have the ongoing [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► story let's look at spider-man movies [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► you know they tried to tell the story [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► but in a movie in two hours it's a lot [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► harder to get that rhythm that we see [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► actually in these Marvel stories where [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► she's living day to day and having to go [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► about you know navigating her tortured [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► high school just existence as a high [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► school student along with being a [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► superhero and so that was that was the [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► thought that I had was you know this [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► really would make a great CW show it [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► would be a funny video [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► yeah exactly better than Supergirl I'd [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► love to see it because you know again [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► and i have to say i have a lot of [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► admiration for how carefully Marvel has [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► architected out its expansion in both [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► film and TV like it's really well [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► thought out and you can and it's fun to [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► watch them laying the groundwork but the [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► characters tend to skew classic in sku [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► old and I would really like to see [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► someone might come on Alec on where [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► instead of it taking place in New York [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► City you know it would be interesting to [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► see if societies that one of the more [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► established characters if as a [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► fish-out-of-water the same way Wolverine [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► was and they discovered that there are [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► people who are just gonna kind of [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► quietly doing their thing no big deal [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► Kamala Khan just happens to be this [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► Marvel who's taking care of you know [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► Jersey City and I i really want to see [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► more of her United too especially you [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► know what the Marvel Cinematic Universe [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► I mean shield i think does a fairly okay [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► job and you know we don't [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► a lot of younger people you know we've [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► got people in the 20 in their twenties [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► but not like teenagers not kids and and [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► you know the movies are just I mean [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► they're fun I like them but like you [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► said it's a bunch of of dudes talking [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► about things and you know we've got the [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► one woman we've got you know Black Widow [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► and we don't we can't even get like her [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► on the t-shirts figurines or whatever so [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► if we could have something daddy has a [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► Marvel movie keeps getting pushed [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► further and further out and it's going [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► to be Carol Danvers who's in earth and [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► maybe part of it is the squeamishness [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► about well what if we have somebody [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► who's a minor was putting herself in [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► really dangerous situations like that [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► that could be uncomfortable but they [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► actually handled that really well like [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► in one of the spider-man movies I'm i [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► think was like spider-man 2 like after [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► he saves a train and pn you know he [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► passed out my car people like holy crap [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► he's really young home and maybe that's [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► actually something that the MCU needs to [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► reckon with which is that if you're [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► going to recruit people who aren't yet [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► adults there are moral and ethical [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► ramifications to putting these people in [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► danger way I always remember the scene [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► and I think it's actually multiple [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► scenes in an ultimate spider-man where [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► Nick very shows up to like try and [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► recruit spider-man to be part of the [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► Avengers and he's like I just gotta [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► finish high school man [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► no yeah i have a lab report of working [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► on yeah that's right yeah I gotta find [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► here i have to do calculus [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► yeah yeah yeahs a sidestep NEX movie [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► when x-men movies when you look at it [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► because they had a really clear division [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► between leg the working excellent here [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► running on the leather and glare alot [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► and the students who you know or are [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► kind of doing an ad-hoc thing and to be [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► fair they have a division in the comic [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► books as well but I i think it's [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► something that you're going to have to [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► see a TV show or a comic book or a movie [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► about these people deal with at some [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► point which is some again when you're [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► throwing teenagers at super villains or [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► natural disasters like you know are [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► there like do you ever draw a line you [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► know what's the issue of consent and I [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► see what you're saying but there have [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► been things like the power rangers and [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► you know they're there [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► there's some precedent you know not [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► necessarily in the Marvel Universe but [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► there is some entertaining [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► and precedent for having teenagers in [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► potentially dangerous situations and you [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► know is goofy you know even as a kid [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► watching power rangers I'm like yeah [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► this is totally goofy know it and you [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► can make that distinction i think but [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► you know there's they can do it [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► lake maybe they're definitely might need [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► to think about it a little bit but I [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► definitely think they should do it like [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► a cute is I'm telling you do this [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► because yeah live the world needs some [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► miss marvel like me as Marvel mass [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► consumption of miss murkly yeah yeah [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► there was a throwaway line and Kevin [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► Smith running green arrow like a decade [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► ago where he's looking back through his [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► rogues gallery or what have you and he [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► like gets the seventies where he's got [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► speediest the sidekick and Batman had [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► Robin and like he actually is a [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► conversation with someone who's like I [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► really don't know what we were thinking [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► pulling these kids into battle with us [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► and you know that was the first was like [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► yeah it's kind of jacked up because you [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► know when you are kidding your teenager [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► reading this of course you want to get [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► out there like through the eighties [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► Kitty Pryde's readiness for the ex was a [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► huge plot point all the way through like [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► it was one of the big plot engines on on [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► the new x-men but what I like here is is [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► Kamala is so thoroughly and obviously a [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► teenager first and and you know I I feel [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► like that's something that is going to [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► give us a lot of plot cheese and that's [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► actually something where if she gets [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► integrated into the wider marvel [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► universe and i'm talking like i just [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► read the first two trails over the first [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► 3 i'm not sure if she gets married to [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► the whole wider Marvel Universe you know [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► someone somewhere is gonna have to say [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► dude she's a sophomore in high school or [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► did she's a junior in high school you [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► know that's what i wanted to mention [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► next which is where Kamala Khan goes [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► from here because when we when we did [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► our episode about the runaways [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► one of the challenges we had is as that [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► run went along and and since that run [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► has ended [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► we've seen them used and there's this [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► thing where you go from being the star [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► of your own story where you like the ms [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► marvel book all four traits are like [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► this that whole series [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► she's the star of the story and she's in [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► the marvel universe and we can have a [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► Wolverine drop in and we can have [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► lockjaw and Medusa drop in but it's cold [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► it's Kamala story and with Runaways they [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► ended up being sort of like and some [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► other people stories and it kind of got [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► messy and not as good and that's what I [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► wanted to ask is is you know [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► there is a new Marvel series that jill [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► wilson is is writing that came out the [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► first issue of which came out last week [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► so following the for trades that are [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► available from the previous run they've [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► gone back to a new number one but she's [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► also in the all-new all different [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► Avengers which is not your typical [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► Avengers book it's it's like kid [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► Avengers sort of because the young nova [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► and and and ultimate spider-man or in it [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► too but still does it does that give you [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► is that good news that she's getting [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► wider a wider view in Marvel or is it [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► problematic in the sense that it's now [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► she's just another cog in the machine i [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► could see that being a really narrow [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► tightrope good that yeah they may not [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► big on the one hand yet more exposure [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► for this really cool character on the [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► other hand you know if you let her as [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► you said if you let them get too deeply [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► into the wider universe you lose you [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► lose the jersey girl then just makes [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► this book so much fun and so refreshing [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► so yeah that's how yeah that's gonna [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► that's gonna be interesting to watch [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► your favorite band you know when they [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► get when they make it big [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► today through it they start to stock the [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► question right it's like oh good I'm [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► glad you like Kamala Khan so much you [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► put her in the Avengers are it was that [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► going how's that going to be [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► it was like a suppose it's the same [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► problem with you know when they start [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► integrating the new mutants into the [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► x-men and these characters i had gotten [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► very attached to wear all of a sudden [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► just basically oh you're in the b-list [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► the x-men you know we we throw you at [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► the problem when the market people are [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► off fighting on the other people and I [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► worry that Kamala to hear they've got so [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► many different ventures titles that you [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► know the the core group of that is the [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► three young heroes and then it's like [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► the new Thor and the new captain america [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► the Falcon but it will be interesting to [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► see what they do there because that that [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► is the concern is that isn't you know [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► now it's not Wilson writing Kamala Khan [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► it's mark waid writing her and and she [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► will have interactions with with Miles [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► Morales which is great but it's not [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► brian michael bendis writing Miles [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► Morales it's mark waid writing Miles [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► Morales so you know it could be good but [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► it could also just be nice [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► I don't it doesn't necessarily detract [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► from the stories that we tell told [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► elsewhere but it is that that you know [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► it gives me gives me a little bit of [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► pause i guess a bit of a pause because [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► i'm kind of curious to see how how or if [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► Mark Waid treats Kamala's background and [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► her faith and her support system as [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► relevant to herself as a character in [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► his universe [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► well if as a family kingdom come if [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► you've ever wanted to see a mark waid [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► comic with an alex ross cover that [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► features Kamala Khan it is all new all [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► different adventures number one which [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► just came out so you can check that out [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► and yeah it'll be interesting to see [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► yeah it kind of goes back to what tony [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► was saying earlier the the the author [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► who can genuinely capture the feel of [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► this team voice vs the author who you [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► know has heard the words and tosses them [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► in because that's what it sounds like [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► one of the creators were work [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► essentially g wilson being the creator [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► of Kamala Khan being being I mean I like [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► Miles Morales is a character a whole lot [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► but he's not as good when it's not brian [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► michael bendis because that's the guy [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► who made Miles Morales he's the guy and [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► you know it's funny that he appears [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► elsewhere but it's not the same and [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► that's my that's my concern about Kamala [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► being run out elsewhere is that it's you [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► know it's not Wilson doing it you know [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► in the DC Universe I always feel the [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► same way whenever I'm oracle or black [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► canary are not written by gail simone [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► because I don't get it she works so hard [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► to be have this character and so so [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► there's and that's actually an [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► interesting discussion which is some [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► whether or not your connection to [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► characters rises and falls depending on [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► his writing them you know I don't know [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► because that was Peter David did the [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► fantastic series X Factor investigations [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► and the way here it's jamie madrox that [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► whole series is really enjoyable and I [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► have like that character before apple [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► before or since like but the one peter [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► david took him and and explain who he [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► was and what he was doing and you know [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► what drove him and what questions he [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► grappled with and what meaning he's [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► trying to write from his life [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► it was really compelling and I'm sure we [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► all have characters where you you know [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► it just clicks with a certain writer and [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► then when they pass it off again you're [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► like okay this could be it [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► no it's not with me but it also kind of [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► worried about presumably i don't i don't [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► know the author but like a presumably [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► middle-aged man riding a teenage girl [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► no you know I read every jessica jones [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► and comics in the ugly or the lead-up to [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► the Netflix series and alias in the [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► pulse I had some really big problems [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► about the way Jessica Jones was written [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► and I think part of that was due to just [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► like gender differences and I'd like I [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► don't know what that says about me but [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► I'm thinking okay part of what I really [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► love about Kamala Khan is how accurately [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► like kind of those those identity things [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► I faced and were portrayed and you know [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► things about like dating and boys and [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► that kind of thing and it is is a guy [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► going to be able to capture that because [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► there are cultural differences you know [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► between the way women and men for girls [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► and boys and grow up and so that that is [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► a concern I have [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► well Wilson is not just a woman but [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► she's Muslim and so she understands she [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► is uniquely not well there are other [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► Muslim comic book writers and their [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► other women complicating there maybe [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► even other Muslim women comic book [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► writers I don't know offhand but she has [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► a very special perspective that she's [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► able to lend to come on jaan that I i'm [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► mark weight is a is a good writer and he [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► da and Marvel mean depending on how they [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► do it in this maybe also one of those [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► things where they're like you know talk [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► to Willow about how you handle Kamala [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► like she's yeah maybe the kind of brand [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► steward for ms marvel like you need to [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► talk to her you need to you know we're [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► gonna check in with her and and if if [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► they're doing it that way [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► that's the right way to do it i think to [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► make try to have her be consistent and [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► handles right but it definitely is a [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► concern when babies characters escape [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► into the wider universe its it he's [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► she's gonna be written by a 53-year old [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► man who's who's got a great history with [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► some a lot of the classic franchises and [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► so perhaps this is seen as a vote of [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► confidence where they like look mark [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► wait did great things with with other [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► with other titles like he did a lot of [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► good work on the flash she's done great [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► work with Superman j SI jala he even [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► revive the [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► Legion of super-heroes thank you yes he [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► had a book like that very you know [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► because he's done to us but very kitten [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► that are pretty compelling and all that [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► um that said one hopes he's grown since [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► the days he wrote empire with Kitson and [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► he depicted the teenage girl therein as [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► a psychotic master because he did not [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► have a bead on any of the female [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► characters in that book whatsoever--like [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► it's it's it's moderately interesting [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► because the book is about oh what's life [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► like under the regime of a supervillain [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► has told from the supervillains [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► perspective um but like there are [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► teenage girls in that book is main [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► characters and i remember reading it and [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► thinking this is not like any teenage [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► girl [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► I have ever known or been admit you are [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► you're like an alien who has come to [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► this planet and tried to put together [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► teenage girls and all you had for your [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► source material or like to back copies [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► of a sweet valley high series a Nancy [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► Drew and good but so I really hope [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► that's not the same as any other [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► thoughts about Miss Marple other than I [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► mean like I said at the beginning people [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► should read it people should read all [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► four volumes quite frankly my only one [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► my wife is not it is not here because [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► she's already fulfilled her contractual [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► obligation to appear on one podcast and [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► only one is a year and then trust me she [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► doesn't that was she negotiated that [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► down from a higher number two as low as [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► i would allow it to go but she not a [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► comic book reader lean I mean it's funny [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► that you mentioned that Lauren has not [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► been a cockroach never grew up with [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► comic books and that's all the [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► children's librarian she has tried to [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► get into the graphic novel thing so she [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► can be knowledgeable about that and she [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► loves miss marvel absolutely loves it [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► she's got vol.4 on you know on waiting [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► for her at the library for the next time [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► she drops in there it's a yeah yeah it's [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► it so i think i think that's one of the [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► great things about about this book and [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► why people should pick a number is that [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► it's a it's not it's a self-contained [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► story it's not something you've seen [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► before and it's really just executed so [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► well and it's pretty [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► can we talk about the hard for me let's [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► do this yes oh my god Adrian telefona [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► because i read the ship had showed me [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► show me and told me to read like the [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► first two or three issues some time ago [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► and I didn't I was like yeah this is [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► cool but life happens work happened and [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► I didn't pick it up again until a time [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► to read for the podcast and I read it [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► earlier this week and it was enjoying it [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► thoroughly and then I went back today [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► and I was on ships ipad going panel by [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► panel looking at all of the detail that [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► Adrian alfano works into this story I [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► don't know how much of it came from [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► Wilson script I don't know how much of [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► it was his imagine use the owl on the on [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► the pier when she saves her her [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► classmate check out the owl it is this [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► adorable like miyazaki owl that has no [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► reason to be there it's just yet and [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► there there's so many things like that [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► like the crowd scene with the kids all [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► gathered on the waterfront you've got [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► Warner Brothers dancing frog in the [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► crowd there and it looks like Johnny [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► Storm is there somebody who is on fire [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► it looks like it's johnny storm is just [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► hanging out in a corner would love it [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► turns out Johnny Storm like it's a [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► jersey city because you like really [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► likes your mother or something [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► yeah it's just you know all sorts of [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► oddball things like that their little [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► piggies in the last like the last volume [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► i started looking and I'm like they're [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► they're just random piggies like a guy's [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► holding a pig under his arm movement in [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► the background that I think it connected [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► because there's the stuff in her room [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► there she's gonna pick with wings [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► stuffed animal she's got the stuffed [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► porcupine with the Hulk hands and [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► honored you know all kinds of things [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► like that there's an ad in her dad's [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► newspaper for GMOs the cereal and I'll [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► yeah issue later there's a bong sitting [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► there while she's eating it you know the [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► consistency of all those details is just [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► so much fun to look at and look for [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► after you've read the book and yeah you [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► go through it again that the signs in [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► the windows [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► you know like all these things about [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► what is the wedding industry there's all [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► these little bits and pieces about you [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► know somebody in arranging Asian [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► weddings because they're always [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► advertising them it's just it's [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► hilarious [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► I think he also captures youthful energy [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► really well because he was my favorite [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► artists on the on the runaways and he [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► manages to capture the kinetic feeling [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► but of being a teenager in a really [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► great way but what's amazing is I didn't [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► read it and think oh this is the [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► runaways this is Runaways art right it [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► is not it it blew my mind was like a [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► telephone is that the front always [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► artist yeah [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► and yet they don't it doesn't it doesn't [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► look the same to me it doesn't see me at [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► all and like I mentioned that whole [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► kinetic you know the super stretching [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► weird shapes and sizes of parts of her [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► body issues exhibited her powers [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► it's so it's it's not what we're used to [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► seeing from comic book art at all and [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► yet it is really it's fun and gets [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► across what's going on with Kamala and [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► her powers and if there were two issues [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► and what we read done by a different [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► artist James Wyatt I believe in the name [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► Tom and he was the one responsible for [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► the the ten i thought it was a tinted [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► Maj the the tunneling up from the sewers [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► her and Wolverine going through as the [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► conversation flowed but he also had a [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► neat trick [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► we're just every once in a while you [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► know the the art just completely goes [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► goofy cartoony and it's all of all [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► things come on his face or the [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► characters face looks like an emoji yeah [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► you can animate look and they're working [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► away from the deformed yeah yeah yeah [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► that's right it's not often enough to be [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► annoying but every once in a while I [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► think that's what helped make the book [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► feel so fresh to is because it doesn't [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► feel like classic comics it it feels [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► very cosmopolitan in a sense a look at [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► the visual influences you've cited by [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► like you know [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► anime emotion is Aoki I mean none of [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► these have their roots in celbridge [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► products and maybe it was one of the one [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► of the matt fraction hawk-eye [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► collections had a Hawkeye book comic [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► that he didn't write in there like [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► included in the collection and after [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► reading something like that and then [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► getting to the like the classic comic [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► book art with the like super anatomical [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► detail of the like listening muscles and [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► stuff it's like it's it's really jarring [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► and I don't I don't I don't like it [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► anymore so yeah I guess I was gonna talk [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► to a stop to the local commonplace and I [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► was talking with the person behind the [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► counter we were talking about like how [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► dramatically are the art comic art in [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► general seems to have changed like in [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► the last two decades but to get to miss [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► marvel this doesn't scan like again like [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► classic marvel art and i like how Kamala [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► is in no way shape or form sexualized [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► and um yeah and again I came up reading [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► x-men and New Mutants through the [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► eighties and nineties and even as a [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► teenager like you know and mind reading [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► about other teenagers they were drawn [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► like full-grown developed women and it [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► got a little weird every once in awhile [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► because you have over 90 kitty pryde you [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► can't go into battle and like there she [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► is and what basically amounts to a [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► bathing suit and knee-high boots go [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► ahead and and she looks like barbarella [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► just like why not and you know it's it's [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► the the art feels really fresh and very [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► cosmopolitan and [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► I i think it adds to the overall [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► relatability the story like i can see [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► myself giving these these trades to [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► people who don't read comics at all i'm [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► going to seriously this is really [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► presented beautifully [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► what do you think well I really sucked [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► me and I've never really read comics i [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► have written about it i haven't had [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► growing up I didn't have the opportunity [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► to read them they just weren't sold they [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► weren't in my local library like it was [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► for boys right like it was just [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► implicitly for boys and where I grew up [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► and so I never and then I got into you [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► know my twenties and thirties and I was [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► like it's too much work like their [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► devices heart and so I never did you [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► know it's just like I have other things [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► to do i'm not even gonna bother with [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► this so i started and well i started [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► with alias in the pulse so it's really [TS]

00:56:51 ◼   ► just been since the beginning of sep [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► tember and I don't want to disclose how [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► much I've spent on comics since then but [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► later yeah yeah yeah it started with a [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► release in the pulse and then i read [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► miss marvel and I just sucked it down I [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► was like this is amazing and now i'm [TS]

00:57:05 ◼   ► circling around and I've been reading a [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► captain marvel today every like 20 [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► issues for Captain Marvel today things [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► marvel unlimited of it so you can put [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► the art style i'm reading it and i'm i'm [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► i'm looking at the 2012 and 2012 run is [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► what I'm reading right now so it's like [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► and you know Carol Danvers in this like [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► bodysuit and she's got like these really [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► prominent abs and very well-defined [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► boobs and I'm like welcome to comics [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► yeah that's gross in it it's like it's a [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► it's an interesting story but I'm [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► finding I find myself that i'm not but i [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► find myself not looking at the art very [TS]

00:57:44 ◼   ► much [TS]

00:57:44 ◼   ► oh it's you find a book illustrated by [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► great land no don't you know and it yeah [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► i mean the story's great I i find that [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► i'm really loving Kelly Sue's writing so [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► you have read but all the run of bitch [TS]

00:57:58 ◼   ► planet so far and like am really into it [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► and I just can't look at the art and and [TS]

00:58:03 ◼   ► I know that is vastly improved from you [TS]

00:58:05 ◼   ► know before the before times long long [TS]

00:58:08 ◼   ► ago but it's just weird and everybody [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► just I don't know it's another thing I [TS]

00:58:13 ◼   ► really love about miss marvel [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► yeah i agree the incomparable this week [TS]

00:58:17 ◼   ► is also sponsored by us our t-shirt sale [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► is continuing the Zeppelin and the [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► about are on sale until februari 4 2016 [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► go to the incomparable calm / shirt for [TS]

00:58:27 ◼   ► links before we go I let's do a quick [TS]

00:58:31 ◼   ► round of what you're reading a lien [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► we've heard I think everything that [TS]