The Incomparable

284: She Scullys Herself


01:00:00   what's the next carriage they use the [TS]

01:00:02   dark in a few places on the ship leaves [TS]

01:00:04   the darkest as cover and of course yes [TS]

01:00:06   this world the swirls around in the [TS]

01:00:08   elevator or used to add a few points and [TS]

01:00:10   and if it is it is stylish I i feel like [TS]

01:00:13   the script is not as strong as the other [TS]

01:00:17   episodes we watched but I feel like it's [TS]

01:00:20   it's it's ambition and the look of it [TS]

01:00:24   and the obvious cost is the reason why [TS]

01:00:27   it's a good representative of this is [TS]

01:00:29   when they've yeah you're absolutely [TS]

01:00:30   right height of their powers can do [TS]

01:00:32   anything and like I said they're making [TS]

01:00:35   things more difficult for themselves [TS]

01:00:37   because they can [TS]

01:00:38   why not just to keep it fair even the [TS]

01:00:40   dorky riding like because of the premise [TS]

01:00:42   because this is a essentially the most [TS]

01:00:44   plausible theory this is all in Mulder's [TS]

01:00:46   head because I totally a wizard of oz [TS]

01:00:47   that like it's it's dorky in a way that [TS]

01:00:50   when you're again when you're the star [TS]

01:00:52   of your own dream this is how things [TS]

01:00:54   play out there are Nazis and the people [TS]

01:00:55   you just like are the bad guys except [TS]

01:00:57   for your boss who actually turns out to [TS]

01:00:58   be a good guy and and your lady pals [TS]

01:01:01   there and this is the time you actually [TS]

01:01:02   kissed anyone who even like at the end [TS]

01:01:04   of the episode when he wakes up in the [TS]

01:01:05   hospital he finally says I love you like [TS]

01:01:07   all the you know you know Scully and [TS]

01:01:10   Mulder shippers are like oh they're [TS]

01:01:12   gonna kiss and say i love you they do it [TS]

01:01:13   both miss episode and she's like oh [TS]

01:01:15   brother and rolls around and walk them [TS]

01:01:16   because they don't stop [TS]

01:01:17   remember you were drugged I was drugged [TS]

01:01:20   I was one of those shivers I was [TS]

01:01:22   punching the air [TS]

01:01:22   I'm not gonna lie yeah now we should [TS]

01:01:25   probably talk about what happened at the [TS]

01:01:27   end of this series because ok [TS]

01:01:30   it did it did kind of so that when nine [TS]

01:01:33   seasons it did kind of fall off a cliff [TS]

01:01:35   quality wise although I i would argue [TS]

01:01:37   that there are good episodes in every [TS]

01:01:39   season yesterday including some good [TS]

01:01:41   episodes with you as so David Duchovny [TS]

01:01:44   wanted to be less involved so you get he [TS]

01:01:46   moves the production LA and then after a [TS]

01:01:48   couple years is like yeah I'm kind of [TS]

01:01:49   over it [TS]

01:01:50   so rather than write them out completely [TS]

01:01:51   from first moulder and then Scully had a [TS]

01:01:54   reduced episode load as time went along [TS]

01:01:56   they wouldn't come back from time to [TS]

01:01:57   time Scully was kind of a mentoring the [TS]

01:02:00   agents who were assigned to The X Files [TS]

01:02:02   which were Doggett and Reyes who [TS]

01:02:06   actually Annabeth Gish and robert [TS]

01:02:08   patrick i think did a perfectly good job [TS]

01:02:11   as as those character [TS]

01:02:13   is I think in fact i believe i said this [TS]

01:02:15   on one of our one of our previous [TS]

01:02:17   episodes when we're talking about read [TS]

01:02:19   about reboots of old shows I mentioned [TS]

01:02:22   that I thought they could reboot the [TS]

01:02:23   x-files I think the premise of the [TS]

01:02:25   x-files is great i think the problem [TS]

01:02:27   with with the Doggett and Reyes years [TS]

01:02:29   was that the writers were tired [TS]

01:02:31   not that they did that the characters [TS]

01:02:33   and those actors didn't do a decent job [TS]

01:02:36   but over time you know you lost Mulder [TS]

01:02:38   and Scully in that dynamic you obviously [TS]

01:02:40   we're working around their schedules to [TS]

01:02:41   get them back you had this kind of [TS]

01:02:43   played out mythology that they were [TS]

01:02:45   still trying to kind of keep spinning as [TS]

01:02:46   much as they could and it just you know [TS]

01:02:49   nine seasons of 22 episodes each of a [TS]

01:02:51   show like this it's just kind of crushed [TS]

01:02:54   under its own weight and that's that's [TS]

01:02:55   kind of the problem with the mythology [TS]

01:02:57   to is that Mulder and Scully were so [TS]

01:02:59   tied into it they were so central to [TS]

01:03:01   what was going on with the mythology [TS]

01:03:04   that you know in law and order yeah you [TS]

01:03:06   can pretty much swap out detectives and [TS]

01:03:09   you know it's just I like Jerry Orbach I [TS]

01:03:11   like pollster do you know it's like [TS]

01:03:13   that's how you watch the show if you [TS]

01:03:15   just like the stories you watch the [TS]

01:03:17   stories but this Mulder and Scully were [TS]

01:03:20   so central to the overarching they were [TS]

01:03:23   the story [TS]

01:03:24   yeah and and so when they're not there [TS]

01:03:27   yeah i mean Doggett and Reyes are fine I [TS]

01:03:30   it's a fine show and there are some [TS]

01:03:32   productive and efficient they're gonna [TS]

01:03:33   have their own stories like that what [TS]

01:03:35   you want to make a spin-off show with [TS]

01:03:36   new people who are on The X Files that's [TS]

01:03:38   fine but they need they're like they [TS]

01:03:39   need to be if you only want to do that [TS]

01:03:41   they need to be as tied into the to the [TS]

01:03:43   new arc not a continuation of the old [TS]

01:03:45   one but because the exact item they tied [TS]

01:03:46   up so many loose ends bye-bye around [TS]

01:03:48   season six [TS]

01:03:49   they had a very natural ending to the [TS]

01:03:51   series everything you really cared about [TS]

01:03:53   had been either solved or are shown to [TS]

01:03:56   be something you're never going to know [TS]

01:03:57   everyone's like internal struggles and [TS]

01:03:59   relationship and characters are pretty [TS]

01:04:01   much nailed down and then just like well [TS]

01:04:03   we just gotta kick start this sucker [TS]

01:04:04   again and send them off on to New York [TS]

01:04:06   since almost all blessing the leads left [TS]

01:04:08   because there's no they had nothing left [TS]

01:04:10   to give like regular people have you [TS]

01:04:13   know one life to live or whatever that [TS]

01:04:14   soap opera was like you don't get have [TS]

01:04:16   17 different lives unless you know maybe [TS]

01:04:18   your David Bowie topical but that with [TS]

01:04:22   the new characters i thought they were [TS]

01:04:23   good too and I was actually surprised by [TS]

01:04:25   how they were able [TS]

01:04:26   to construct basically a good x-files [TS]

01:04:28   episode with these new people because [TS]

01:04:29   they're good actors and they had [TS]

01:04:31   interesting stories every once in awhile [TS]

01:04:33   but but they never restarted an arc that [TS]

01:04:35   I cared about and that's really what [TS]

01:04:37   killed it better to have Mulder and [TS]

01:04:38   Scully just be gone right yeah and say [TS]

01:04:41   that someone is yelling for it's me i'm [TS]

01:04:44   still here i'm missing you should care [TS]

01:04:45   about finding me for some reason [TS]

01:04:47   yeah right so the dog eraser just left [TS]

01:04:49   left holding the bag go go off and do X [TS]

01:04:52   Files New Orleans once in a while you [TS]

01:04:54   might have a guest shot you know and [TS]

01:04:57   then you have you know x-files Miami [TS]

01:04:58   over here is my disappointment about the [TS]

01:05:01   ring about the relaunch is a is that [TS]

01:05:03   it's just bringing back [TS]

01:05:05   Mulder and Scully for six episodes and [TS]

01:05:07   and that'll be fun but I i am a believer [TS]

01:05:09   in this as a premise and I'm kind of [TS]

01:05:11   disappointed that they didn't instead do [TS]

01:05:13   a new x-files with new characters and [TS]

01:05:15   try to you know because i think there's [TS]

01:05:17   so much power in this premise anything [TS]

01:05:19   yet good yeah exactly they will one day [TS]

01:05:22   yeah that's where they're not going to [TS]

01:05:24   promote this as hey this is a whole new [TS]

01:05:26   thing they're gonna promote this as its [TS]

01:05:28   Fox and then Dana their back-to-back [TS]

01:05:30   assists for d is an episode i want to [TS]

01:05:33   mention from the last season's example [TS]

01:05:34   like I think that's a pretty good [TS]

01:05:35   episode and that is that's the parallel [TS]

01:05:37   universe episode where there's like a [TS]

01:05:39   killer but the killer is is going back [TS]

01:05:41   and forth between the beach it's sort of [TS]

01:05:43   like a pro fringe back and forth between [TS]

01:05:45   our universe in a parallel universe and [TS]

01:05:47   have to follow him to the parallel [TS]

01:05:49   universe was actually kind of a really [TS]

01:05:51   great great episode that is lost because [TS]

01:05:53   it's in season 9 and who cares at that [TS]

01:05:56   point but I have nobody did I i was i [TS]

01:05:59   was kind of a defender of Doggett and [TS]

01:06:01   Reyes mostly because Blake you guys said [TS]

01:06:05   they they were fine characters i [TS]

01:06:06   actually enjoyed them i thought the [TS]

01:06:07   performances were really good i do agree [TS]

01:06:09   that the stories were were less exciting [TS]

01:06:11   it was it was it felt very very sort of [TS]

01:06:14   wrote and by-the-book [TS]

01:06:15   monster-of-the-week they didn't get [TS]

01:06:17   there wasn't a whole lot drawing you [TS]

01:06:19   back but everybody just got so rabid and [TS]

01:06:22   just vile towards these poor actors and [TS]

01:06:25   and these characters which I thought [TS]

01:06:26   were just fine so I i found myself i [TS]

01:06:29   think i like them extra much simply [TS]

01:06:32   because all these people were bagging on [TS]

01:06:34   them so hard and and I felt like like [TS]

01:06:37   somebody needed to love them so that was [TS]

01:06:38   me [TS]

01:06:39   well whatever [TS]

01:06:39   there's um I story arc comes back then [TS]

01:06:42   Mulder and Scully come back right so [TS]

01:06:44   that it really is they I mean they [TS]

01:06:45   really were left holding the bag they [TS]

01:06:47   were filling in the episodes that if you [TS]

01:06:49   were if you were there to see Mulder [TS]

01:06:51   Scully in the ongoing story they their [TS]

01:06:53   episodes did not provide those things [TS]

01:06:55   and they're as I would get annoyed when [TS]

01:06:57   when Scully and Mulder would come back i [TS]

01:07:00   agree it just it felt so insincere at [TS]

01:07:04   that point just didn't it just didn't [TS]

01:07:05   work it was like oh ok well I'm supposed [TS]

01:07:07   to care about these other characters and [TS]

01:07:09   yet you keep bringing back i agree that [TS]

01:07:11   the spin-off would have been it would [TS]

01:07:13   have been a lovely think especially if [TS]

01:07:14   they would have gotten a new stable of [TS]

01:07:15   writers yes exactly right we should talk [TS]

01:07:20   before we go to feature films were made [TS]

01:07:22   one during the run of the show which was [TS]

01:07:27   problematic because they essentially had [TS]

01:07:29   to shoot the movie and then spend the [TS]

01:07:31   next season riding up to the point which [TS]

01:07:34   would lead into the movie [TS]

01:07:36   yeah which I marvel nowadays are yeah it [TS]

01:07:39   kinda it's exactly what agents of shield [TS]

01:07:41   has to do actually and it kind of put [TS]

01:07:43   the plot in a stall tactic mode for a [TS]

01:07:48   season which is not good drama because [TS]

01:07:50   they knew where they needed to be be [TS]

01:07:52   they couldn't change their plan because [TS]

01:07:54   they had just told the story that was [TS]

01:07:56   going to be in the in the feature film [TS]

01:07:58   so that was that was the the first one [TS]

01:08:01   and then that was fight the future right [TS]

01:08:03   right and then they did they did I want [TS]

01:08:07   to believe in in 2004 words 2008 right [TS]

01:08:13   much surprisingly a long time passed and [TS]

01:08:16   they did I want to believe which I i [TS]

01:08:18   have to admit i have never seen it [TS]

01:08:20   me either you're not missing anything [TS]

01:08:22   I've even the first movie didn't work [TS]

01:08:24   that well like this show doesn't work I [TS]

01:08:26   don't know if it doesn't work in movie [TS]

01:08:27   form but into movies and neither one of [TS]

01:08:29   them captured anything that I really [TS]

01:08:31   loved from pretty sure I saw it and I [TS]

01:08:34   cannot remember a thing i'm not even a [TS]

01:08:36   hundred percent sure i did see it so [TS]

01:08:38   there yeah yeah i did see it and [TS]

01:08:40   I'm i don't remember much about it other [TS]

01:08:42   than that i was bored and disappointed i [TS]

01:08:44   don't know I i think it's telling about [TS]

01:08:46   how this had this series ended and one [TS]

01:08:48   of the things that I've liked about [TS]

01:08:49   revisiting it it is it's actually got me [TS]

01:08:52   excited about the about the the [TS]

01:08:54   six-episode miniseries revival thing [TS]

01:08:57   which by the way I think it's really [TS]

01:08:59   cool that they're doing that because [TS]

01:09:00   I've complained on this podcast actually [TS]

01:09:03   numerous times that you get a good show [TS]

01:09:04   and everybody loves it you know bring it [TS]

01:09:07   back every now and then that happens in [TS]

01:09:09   british TV all the time where they bring [TS]

01:09:10   something back for a special or five [TS]

01:09:12   episodes or something like that and they [TS]

01:09:13   actually did it with like how how long [TS]

01:09:15   can we get David Duchovny and Gillian [TS]

01:09:17   Anderson because they're very busy with [TS]

01:09:19   other things in the answer was they [TS]

01:09:20   could do six episodes worth so they they [TS]

01:09:22   ordered six episodes of The X Files how [TS]

01:09:24   great is that [TS]

01:09:25   but I'm much more excited about it now [TS]

01:09:27   having revisited these classic episodes [TS]

01:09:29   because the fact is yeah it kind of fell [TS]

01:09:31   apart at the end and I left with bad [TS]

01:09:33   feelings about the x-files and this [TS]

01:09:36   process really reminded me of how I mean [TS]

01:09:38   legitimately great [TS]

01:09:40   the show was for a long time before it [TS]

01:09:44   started to fall apart and for so many [TS]

01:09:46   episodes like again I was you know I [TS]

01:09:48   thought that thought that episode 13 was [TS]

01:09:50   the end-of-season what they just made so [TS]

01:09:51   many episodes it was that they turned [TS]

01:09:53   was an hour long line of grid and two [TS]

01:09:55   episodes like this let's do feature [TS]

01:09:57   films [TS]

01:09:58   it's amazing how you know chris carter i [TS]

01:09:59   actually i would actually file chris [TS]

01:10:02   carter along with Gene Roddenberry and [TS]

01:10:04   George Lucas is somebody that I think [TS]

01:10:06   perhaps had some luck involved in [TS]

01:10:10   creating this amazing thing and and now [TS]

01:10:12   has has control over it and I've heard [TS]

01:10:15   through people in in well how do I put [TS]

01:10:20   this like talking to Tim Goodman on on [TS]

01:10:22   the TV time machine I definitely get the [TS]

01:10:23   impression from him that there is a [TS]

01:10:25   feeling like that that one of the [TS]

01:10:27   impediments to bring back the x-files is [TS]

01:10:29   chris carter because chris carter wants [TS]

01:10:31   to be intimately involved with it and [TS]

01:10:34   that's problematic because he is [TS]

01:10:37   infamous for making some bad decisions [TS]

01:10:39   and being really slow and missing [TS]

01:10:42   deadlines and all sorts of things so I I [TS]

01:10:45   I hesitate to say that anybody is in the [TS]

01:10:48   same category as george lucas and Gene [TS]

01:10:50   Roddenberry in terms of being a creator [TS]

01:10:52   who ends up being an impediment [TS]

01:10:53   to their own thing that they created but [TS]

01:10:54   i feel that way about him a little bit [TS]

01:10:56   because in the end I don't think that [TS]

01:10:58   the most memorable episode of the [TS]

01:10:59   x-files were done by Chris Carter but [TS]

01:11:01   what I like about this revival is Chris [TS]

01:11:04   Carter is doing his episodes but he [TS]

01:11:06   brought back James Wong he brought back [TS]

01:11:07   Darren Morgan he brought back lynn [TS]

01:11:09   morgan and apparently they asked Vince [TS]

01:11:12   Gilligan and they asked um uh who's [TS]

01:11:17   doing the the man in the high castle [TS]

01:11:18   Frank spot it's a asked they asked them [TS]

01:11:21   to come back and there and they're too [TS]

01:11:23   busy basically with their other [TS]

01:11:25   successful shows that they're doing but [TS]

01:11:27   I like that it's not just that this [TS]

01:11:29   thing is not just an ego trip a lot of [TS]

01:11:31   the other great kind of team members who [TS]

01:11:34   came out of that show are coming back to [TS]

01:11:36   do this thing and i hope its I hope it's [TS]

01:11:38   worth the time and energy that they're [TS]

01:11:40   putting in it it'll be interesting to [TS]

01:11:42   see a show coming back after 14 years [TS]

01:11:46   almost exactly because he was actually [TS]

01:11:49   does work since years [TS]

01:11:51   we're not gonna talk about that we've [TS]

01:11:52   been 10 years since she was a lot of [TS]

01:11:53   fingers in my ears and now here's six [TS]

01:11:55   episodes of The X Files is kind of like [TS]

01:11:57   the force awakens already lawrence [TS]

01:11:58   kasdan to come back to get the old cast [TS]

01:12:00   to come back the addy creator I guess [TS]

01:12:02   the credit still involved with the [TS]

01:12:03   episode or whatever but I I feel like [TS]

01:12:05   every two hours talking to his car i [TS]

01:12:07   would say have faith that the show the [TS]

01:12:10   premise the style of television making [TS]

01:12:12   that you created back then that the [TS]

01:12:14   people who are going to make these new [TS]

01:12:17   six episodes understand that they are [TS]

01:12:19   students in the school of the thing that [TS]

01:12:21   you made and like it that these cases [TS]

01:12:23   the actual same writers like that if if [TS]

01:12:25   you establish something some as iconic [TS]

01:12:27   as Star Trek Star Wars of the x-files [TS]

01:12:29   and you make either like a reboot of it [TS]

01:12:33   or continuation or whatever like and you [TS]

01:12:36   get the right people on it have faith [TS]

01:12:37   that they understand their bones the [TS]

01:12:39   thing that you made it's not as if I [TS]

01:12:40   need to be involved is on the only [TS]

01:12:41   person involved X also the whole [TS]

01:12:43   generation of [TS]

01:12:44   of television writers in television [TS]

01:12:46   viewers to understand the x-files you [TS]

01:12:47   just get the good ones and talented ones [TS]

01:12:49   they will take care of your baby in in [TS]

01:12:51   the way at the very least in the way [TS]

01:12:53   that the people who love the original [TS]

01:12:54   show also love i said is having not seen [TS]

01:12:56   these new six episodes tomato blow it [TS]

01:12:58   but I am cautiously optimistic [TS]

01:13:01   alright so so the x-files returns to [TS]

01:13:04   television haha i cannot believe that [TS]

01:13:08   I'm saying that on the January 24th [TS]

01:13:10   while he created as mine alone [TS]

01:13:13   yeah it's a it's cool i hope it does [TS]

01:13:16   well because bringing back shows that [TS]

01:13:18   people like and doing short runs of them [TS]

01:13:20   i think it's a good idea so i will be [TS]

01:13:23   interested to see if because there are a [TS]

01:13:25   lot of people who never watch the [TS]

01:13:27   x-files or didn't see much of it who [TS]

01:13:29   will probably be watching this just [TS]

01:13:30   because of all the hype surrounding it [TS]

01:13:32   and i will be interested to see how it [TS]

01:13:35   plays to those people if they're able to [TS]

01:13:37   hit the balance kinda like they did with [TS]

01:13:38   with new Doctor Who bringing it back [TS]

01:13:40   where you can make the classic fans [TS]

01:13:43   happy enough and make it accessible [TS]

01:13:45   enough that the new breed of audience [TS]

01:13:47   member can come in and get it as well so [TS]

01:13:49   one last run before before I wrap this [TS]

01:13:51   up completely because i think that you [TS]

01:13:53   made a good point there [TS]

01:13:54   we've mentioned four episodes that [TS]

01:13:56   people can watch on and in passing of [TS]

01:13:58   men mentioned a few more before we go if [TS]

01:14:00   there are particular episodes that you [TS]

01:14:02   would recommend that people watch other [TS]

01:14:05   than the ones that we've already [TS]

01:14:06   mentioned i would be interested in [TS]

01:14:08   hearing those I guess I'll start and [TS]

01:14:11   give you time to think since I didn't [TS]

01:14:12   have you prepare this [TS]

01:14:13   yeah i really i really like squeeze [TS]

01:14:16   which is episode 3 which I feel is and [TS]

01:14:20   it's got a sequel later on the first [TS]

01:14:22   season called tombs these are it's like [TS]

01:14:26   the x-files episode squeezes it's about [TS]

01:14:28   a guy who eats people's livers and can [TS]

01:14:31   squeeze in between into really narrow [TS]

01:14:33   spaces [TS]

01:14:34   that's what it's about that's all it's [TS]

01:14:36   about but it's kinda great [TS]

01:14:38   all of the Darin Morgan episodes i think [TS]

01:14:40   are fantastic I think I think red museum [TS]

01:14:44   is an amusing episode because it's about [TS]

01:14:46   it's about cows [TS]

01:14:49   I believe it said in Wisconsin Erica and [TS]

01:14:51   and there's mysterious a mysterious cow [TS]

01:14:54   related murders and it was meant to be a [TS]

01:14:56   crossover with the day [TS]

01:14:58   d kelly series picket fences and that it [TS]

01:15:00   was across network crossover so they a [TS]

01:15:02   candidate but uh it's uh it's still kind [TS]

01:15:06   of a kind of cool episode already [TS]

01:15:09   mentioned for the complications that [TS]

01:15:11   Darin Morgan episode and hose from outer [TS]

01:15:14   space [TS]

01:15:15   I i would say don't watch the ones with [TS]

01:15:17   that were written by William Gibson as [TS]

01:15:19   much as I love him as a writer because [TS]

01:15:21   they're not very good [TS]

01:15:22   small potatoes is a very good episode [TS]

01:15:24   written by Vince Gilligan and starring [TS]

01:15:27   Darin Morgan I believe [TS]

01:15:29   yeah he's this he's the star of that [TS]

01:15:31   episode the writer Darin Morgan is the [TS]

01:15:33   star that episode so those are some that [TS]

01:15:35   i think are worth are worth watching [TS]

01:15:37   John do you have any that we haven't we [TS]

01:15:39   have initially I looked up one cuz I [TS]

01:15:41   thought you might have a segment and I [TS]

01:15:42   have vague memories other ones maybe you [TS]

01:15:44   can tell me which episodes there that [TS]

01:15:45   the first one that that is one of my [TS]

01:15:47   favorites that always sticks in my mind [TS]

01:15:49   it's very similar to all the episodes [TS]

01:15:51   that we looked at even though it's a [TS]

01:15:53   mythology episode because it relies on [TS]

01:15:55   you having watched many seasons of this [TS]

01:15:57   very interesting character to it's a [TS]

01:16:00   payoff to say now we can do a different [TS]

01:16:01   story with this character and some [TS]

01:16:02   musings of a cigarette smoking man i [TS]

01:16:04   love yes mmm i love that actor i love [TS]

01:16:07   how they used him i love that he smokes [TS]

01:16:09   a cigarette I love everything about him [TS]

01:16:11   and in one episode they take you back to [TS]

01:16:14   how to have you end up with this guy how [TS]

01:16:16   does this guy yea he's all creepy and [TS]

01:16:17   everything but how you know it's it's [TS]

01:16:20   what the stars people could never do how [TS]

01:16:21   do you end up a cigarette smoking man [TS]

01:16:22   and it reveals him to be a you know a [TS]

01:16:26   flashback and the show all the terrible [TS]

01:16:27   things he's done in the past but that he [TS]

01:16:29   has other ambitions and he wants to be a [TS]

01:16:31   writer and genre fiction which is not [TS]

01:16:33   taken seriously right and yeah you know [TS]

01:16:36   he's always wanted to do that and he's [TS]

01:16:38   writing tales that sounds stupid an [TS]

01:16:39   unbelievable it's like pop trash but [TS]

01:16:41   they're basically based on real things [TS]

01:16:43   you might call them romana clay of what [TS]

01:16:46   he's actually done in his life and they [TS]

01:16:47   get rejected as ridiculous and [TS]

01:16:49   eventually gets gets a reply from you [TS]

01:16:52   know from a magazine saying yes we're [TS]

01:16:54   going to publish your stuff is a [TS]

01:16:55   serialize story he's so excited he's [TS]

01:16:57   ready to resign as the most terrible [TS]

01:16:59   villain in the entire xbox universe is [TS]

01:17:01   finally gets his dream and it turns out [TS]

01:17:03   to be a nudie mag and he is disappointed [TS]

01:17:08   and he tears up his resignation and goes [TS]

01:17:09   back to be serious moment that is like a [TS]

01:17:11   little my idea of like a perfect [TS]

01:17:12   mythology connected character-based [TS]

01:17:15   payoff reward episode the other episode [TS]

01:17:18   that I can't find the title of one of [TS]

01:17:19   you can tell me maybe it is Ho Chunk [TS]

01:17:21   myspace what's the one with long [TS]

01:17:22   government play Dungeons and Dragons of [TS]

01:17:23   the convention does like a different [TS]

01:17:26   name of it but I second your FB pic and [TS]

01:17:29   there's managers computer dragons but [TS]

01:17:30   right I can't think of the name of the [TS]

01:17:32   episode with the final thing that this [TS]

01:17:33   is not a particular purpose of this is [TS]

01:17:34   the one thing that struck me watching [TS]

01:17:35   these four episodes again i don't i [TS]

01:17:38   don't think i was in the camp that had [TS]

01:17:39   like a super mega crush on Johanna [TS]

01:17:42   Anderson for me there's Dana Delany [TS]

01:17:43   china beach aforementioned but not [TS]

01:17:45   watching these episodes again and all [TS]

01:17:48   watching across the entire time David [TS]

01:17:50   company's fine i like him like his [TS]

01:17:52   character I cannot stop looking at her [TS]

01:17:55   face [TS]

01:17:56   I don't know what it is about her as an [TS]

01:17:57   actress when she is on the screen doing [TS]

01:18:00   her acting thing I cannot stop looking [TS]

01:18:03   at her face she is just the most [TS]

01:18:05   entrancing actress i love the episodes [TS]

01:18:07   when she would sound better she was sad [TS]

01:18:10   where she / bad things would happen to [TS]

01:18:11   her when she would get upset when her [TS]

01:18:12   dad died when she finds out she has [TS]

01:18:14   cancer where she's she just I don't know [TS]

01:18:16   if she's really this great an actress or [TS]

01:18:18   maybe she's I haven't seen her many [TS]

01:18:19   other things but she always just draws [TS]

01:18:23   my eye and I don't know what it is about [TS]

01:18:25   her it you know it just that she is [TS]

01:18:28   magnetic and I for me and you know it [TS]

01:18:32   her in this series is what it's like I [TS]

01:18:34   forgotten about it like I don't put it [TS]

01:18:36   behind me or whatever but she's up on [TS]

01:18:38   the screen and I just can't take my eyes [TS]

01:18:39   off her so thats i'm going to endorse [TS]

01:18:41   every episode with her in it [TS]

01:18:42   three-of-a-kind is the name of the [TS]

01:18:43   episode you were thinking of and it's by [TS]

01:18:46   Vince Gilligan and Joshua band and it is [TS]

01:18:48   that's the one where they play Dungeons [TS]

01:18:50   and Dragons it's a goofy funny one [TS]

01:18:52   David you have episodes I have episodes [TS]

01:18:55   I again wholeheartedly recommend all of [TS]

01:18:58   the Darin Morgan ones [TS]

01:18:59   yeah because I mean again if if you know [TS]

01:19:03   what I do [TS]

01:19:04   funny spooky writing is right up my [TS]

01:19:07   alley so I love all of those i also [TS]

01:19:10   again going back to Vince Gilligan and [TS]

01:19:12   the seeds of breaking bad i would say [TS]

01:19:14   the episode drive with bryan cranston [TS]

01:19:17   which is season six [TS]

01:19:20   x it's the beginning of season 6 and [TS]

01:19:22   it's kind of a and X Files version of [TS]

01:19:26   the movie speed where Bryan Cranston has [TS]

01:19:29   to keep moving or his head will explode [TS]

01:19:31   and remember that one of course he winds [TS]

01:19:36   up in a car holding Mulder hostage [TS]

01:19:38   making motor drive west and it's amazing [TS]

01:19:41   and he is not at all you know if at this [TS]

01:19:46   point people knew him as either [TS]

01:19:47   Seinfeld's dentist or the dad from [TS]

01:19:49   Malcolm in the Middle rent and you know [TS]

01:19:52   this this was the episode that Gilligan [TS]

01:19:55   looked back and said I know who to cast [TS]

01:19:58   in this is breaking bad thing he could [TS]

01:20:01   pull that off because he is a horrible [TS]

01:20:04   person in this and yet you still feel [TS]

01:20:06   sympathy for him because Bryan [TS]

01:20:08   Cranston's that could i would also say [TS]

01:20:10   the postmodern Prometheus sure you know [TS]

01:20:13   that's it's just it again it breaks the [TS]

01:20:16   formula enough and that is the subtitle [TS]

01:20:20   of Frankenstein yeah that's you know [TS]

01:20:22   it's it's much as young frankenstein as [TS]

01:20:25   a is just a pitch-perfect spoof of the [TS]

01:20:28   original Frankenstein films this does [TS]

01:20:30   the same the same kind of thing and i [TS]

01:20:33   had as i recall it uses the same props [TS]

01:20:35   from both those the original movie and [TS]

01:20:38   young frankenstein which is kinda cool [TS]

01:20:41   the episode ice in the first season [TS]

01:20:44   which that might be the one that hooked [TS]

01:20:47   me fully [TS]

01:20:49   that's a great episode it is a great [TS]

01:20:51   episode it is a beautiful riff gardening [TS]

01:20:54   the thing but the original and who goes [TS]

01:20:57   there [TS]

01:20:58   so that is just that that was the one [TS]

01:21:01   where I went okay these guys know what [TS]

01:21:03   they're doing and even then they're kind [TS]

01:21:04   of showing off because it's not just you [TS]

01:21:06   know he will trap them in things like no [TS]

01:21:08   we're doing the thing we're doing who [TS]

01:21:09   goes there and i'll translate that seeds [TS]

01:21:12   of do everything very same thing I was [TS]

01:21:15   like the truly great science-fiction [TS]

01:21:16   shows do a thing episode to have you did [TS]

01:21:19   yeah yeah and then i'm actually going to [TS]

01:21:22   pick a season 9 episode which kind of [TS]

01:21:26   breaks break some of what we were saying [TS]

01:21:27   because it's got a big-name guests [TS]

01:21:29   started 4d was good yeah that was really [TS]

01:21:31   good to this one [TS]

01:21:33   a big-name guests are it's it's a little [TS]

01:21:36   beard it's it's called improbable and it [TS]

01:21:40   has Burt Reynolds oh yeah might be God [TS]

01:21:43   and what I really like about it is the [TS]

01:21:47   dog it stays back in the office and it's [TS]

01:21:49   Scully and Reyes teaming up to to solve [TS]

01:21:52   this problem which that was that was [TS]

01:21:54   something we haven't seen this before [TS]

01:21:56   either and that's a that's a little [TS]

01:21:58   weird episode that you don't expect that [TS]

01:22:00   late in the Royal Erica well as I said [TS]

01:22:03   I'm terrible with with names and even [TS]

01:22:06   remembering specific episodes but as [TS]

01:22:07   we've been talking about it some things [TS]

01:22:09   have come back to me i will i will say [TS]

01:22:11   that i do love the lone gunman so many [TS]

01:22:13   of my favorite episodes where there's it [TS]

01:22:15   just looking it up I didn't realize just [TS]

01:22:17   how many episodes they were in thinking [TS]

01:22:18   a lot [TS]

01:22:19   yeah so the one that i will point to [TS]

01:22:21   they do kind of remember is unusual [TS]

01:22:23   suspects which deals with sort of [TS]

01:22:24   origins of love origin stories [TS]

01:22:27   especially with quirky wacky characters [TS]

01:22:29   like those guys so that that's a good [TS]

01:22:31   one and if you like them and their [TS]

01:22:34   series jump the shark is the episode [TS]

01:22:37   that that office them which may be [TS]

01:22:39   rewritten now exciting and I also i also [TS]

01:22:43   second the the Jose Jones from outer [TS]

01:22:46   space that's another one that I [TS]

01:22:47   definitely remember liking a lot and the [TS]

01:22:49   michael mckean to partner which you [TS]

01:22:50   actually mentioned dreams and Greenland [TS]

01:22:52   and dream land to which dreamland to has [TS]

01:22:54   the lone gunman in it so it's you know [TS]

01:22:56   lots of bang for your buck [TS]

01:22:58   yeah and I have one more than i'll throw [TS]

01:23:01   in there which is an episode called [TS]

01:23:02   pusher from season 3 written by vince [TS]

01:23:04   gilligan directed by rob bowman by the [TS]

01:23:06   way who is the best Star Trek The Next [TS]

01:23:07   Generation director and he became an [TS]

01:23:09   x-files director which was pretty cool [TS]

01:23:11   because he he did like the first episode [TS]

01:23:14   with Borg and to get a really good [TS]

01:23:15   director and i was very happy to see his [TS]

01:23:17   name start popping up on The X Files [TS]

01:23:19   pusher is about a guy who can make [TS]

01:23:22   people see or not see things and the [TS]

01:23:25   reason that i mentioned it is because [TS]

01:23:26   when i used to be a commuter i would [TS]

01:23:29   have to cross a freeway on-ramp in order [TS]

01:23:31   to get to my bus stop every morning and [TS]

01:23:33   every morning when I cross the on-ramp I [TS]

01:23:35   thought of the episode pusher where [TS]

01:23:37   because the most terrifying thing it is [TS]

01:23:39   that he he made somebody not see an [TS]

01:23:43   oncoming truck [TS]

01:23:44   and that's how they died is a step in [TS]

01:23:46   front of the truck because they didn't [TS]

01:23:48   see it and I thought about that every [TS]

01:23:49   time I cross that freeway on every [TS]

01:23:52   single time so just one that's you're [TS]

01:23:54   safe i guess so i guess you're getting [TS]

01:23:57   paranoid so good job is Gilligan alright [TS]

01:24:00   the x-files returns it in very very soon [TS]

01:24:04   very soon so i would like to thank my [TS]

01:24:06   guests for revisiting this classic [TS]

01:24:08   series a lot of fun to to dip back in [TS]

01:24:11   here David lower thank you for being [TS]

01:24:13   here [TS]

01:24:14   I I want to believe what's just want to [TS]

01:24:17   leave [TS]

01:24:18   that's true Erica and sign thank you [TS]

01:24:20   thank you [TS]

01:24:21   now i'm just excited to see buyers [TS]

01:24:23   Langley and froakie again we don't ya [TS]

01:24:25   and John syracuse that the truth is out [TS]

01:24:27   there how we forgot to mention that I [TS]

01:24:29   think like Brooklyn especially gets her [TS]

01:24:30   little dog her little dog that all [TS]

01:24:33   getting my mold in evergreen forests in [TS]

01:24:35   a later episode but after that the state [TS]

01:24:38   to the coastal blue snow globe thing [TS]

01:24:40   we're really they're still trapped [TS]

01:24:42   underground with that law stuff to sell [TS]

01:24:43   cereals we're saying that we're here and [TS]

01:24:45   the rest of the series of dissolution [TS]

01:24:46   anyway yeah Buffy Muffy is also just a [TS]

01:24:49   girl in a mental institution [TS]

01:24:51   it happens so anyway I think of episodes [TS]

01:24:54   and a little dog [TS]

01:24:55   yeah and thanks everybody for listening [TS]

01:24:57   if you haven't uh you know if you've got [TS]

01:24:59   access to netflix they're all on there [TS]

01:25:01   there in HD [TS]

01:25:03   it's pretty great so you know watch some [TS]

01:25:05   episodes of The X Files and thanks for [TS]

01:25:08   listening we'll see you next time [TS]

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01:25:21   [Music] [TS]

01:25:24   ok [TS]

01:25:28   the truth is out there [TS]

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