00:00:00 ◼ ► The World Series has unified our country around around one central theme, which is booing and
00:00:08 ◼ ► heckling Donald Trump. Right. Did you watch that yesterday? It's a beautiful moment that we can
00:00:14 ◼ ► all share together. So you take the kids, you take the kids and at the seventh inning stretch,
00:00:20 ◼ ► you all stand up and you boo the president. This was, it was an interesting thing. And for
00:01:36 ◼ ► But it's sort of traditional for a U.S. president to throw out the first pitch, usually on opening
00:01:44 ◼ ► But Trump doesn't do that, even though Trump claims that as a young man he was the best
00:02:22 ◼ ► doesn't want to throw out a pitch at a World Series because they would make him wear what
00:02:32 ◼ ► funny enough, in the New York Times, the New York Times, which usually, if anything, bends
00:02:46 ◼ ► it or not, conservative listeners out there, they really do. It drives liberals nuts almost.
00:02:53 ◼ ► Not even almost. But they paraphrased him as saying it would make him look "fat," which
00:03:00 ◼ ► is not the word he used. But other presidents have had to wear the bulletproof vest underneath
00:04:04 ◼ ► it's you know it's a very as one could imagine throwing a couple of warm-up pitches in a basement
00:04:09 ◼ ► at the stadium uh it's very different than throwing it in front of 60 000 screaming fans at the world
00:04:16 ◼ ► series with an audience of millions watching around the world yeah uh well at least bush bush
00:04:22 ◼ ► wasn't getting booed so you know no you know unanimous cheers for for president bush at the
00:04:35 ◼ ► didn't throw out pitches in times like the aftermath of 9/11. You know, you could consider
00:04:49 ◼ ► Unremarkable, other than the fact that Barack Obama, although quite a basketball player,
00:04:56 ◼ ► has obviously never played baseball because if you ever look at the video of it, he really
00:05:06 ◼ ► Which is odd, because usually I could see being a total non-athlete and not really knowing
00:05:47 ◼ ► Maybe they shouldn't, they should not, well, although, you know, it's probably not going
00:05:55 ◼ ► But anyway, so I guess I should explain that for our listeners who aren't even familiar
00:06:02 ◼ ► So I think at most, at all professional baseball games, there's usually a ceremonial first
00:06:36 ◼ ► on opening day. Trump has never done it on opening day. And the presidents often, there's
00:06:43 ◼ ► a long history of presidents being baseball fans in particular. Nixon was a baseball nut.
00:06:50 ◼ ► Ronald Reagan had spent time as a radio announcer for baseball games during his early professional
00:06:58 ◼ ► career as a broadcaster. Bill Clinton, I think was a baseball fan. George W. Bush, George H.W.
00:07:09 ◼ ► Bush, the original George Bush as I like to call him, was unlike Donald Trump actually was
00:07:15 ◼ ► an elite baseball player. He played on the Yale team and I think he played in the National College
00:07:24 ◼ ► for Yale, Yale was actually very good, like right before World War II. Very good baseball player,
00:07:31 ◼ ► George W. Bush, owned the Texas Rangers. And in my opinion, still does. Still owns the goddamn Texas
00:07:42 ◼ ► Rangers. And yet, every time me or my friends or my listeners edit the Wikipedia page for the
00:07:48 ◼ ► Texas Rangers to put down that George W. Bush is the owner of the team, it gets edited out.
00:07:54 ◼ ► And I'm not telling you the people listening to this podcast to go edit the Wikipedia page for the Texas Rangers to list George W
00:08:08 ◼ ► It's not even even I still think he owns the team frankly if you can you can't convince me otherwise
00:08:13 ◼ ► But it's into undisputed that he previously owned at least part of the team literally owned a baseball team. Yeah
00:08:24 ◼ ► Absolutely and still still goes to some of them. Oh, yeah, and he was there. He did for years
00:08:41 ◼ ► And then I think they might have had the worst record in baseball after that. They started out as like since I was on this show
00:08:49 ◼ ► So now I think we're doing a reset so maybe they'll probably start the year off for getting great
00:08:53 ◼ ► Yeah, so anyway, the Washington Nationals are there that Washington did the city of Washington is nuts for the team there
00:09:02 ◼ ► I don't know. I think the last time a professional baseball team was in the World Series in Washington was
00:09:19 ◼ ► what was then back back in old time days the washington senators although they're apparently
00:09:23 ◼ ► their nickname i didn't know this until this week was the nationals people referred to the
00:09:27 ◼ ► washington senators as the nationals and that's i guess where they got this name from anyway they
00:09:33 ◼ ► moved to minnesota and became the twins i believe right is it is that i don't know i don't know that
00:09:39 ◼ ► could be as made up i'm willing to believe that sure it could be as made up as anything i'm pretty
00:09:42 ◼ ► sure. Well, they went somewhere. And so there was a decades-long drought where there was no team in
00:09:50 ◼ ► the Washington, D.C. city. And I guess they had to sort of adopt the nearby Baltimore Orioles as
00:09:56 ◼ ► the team of the local team. Yeah, that's when I lived in the D.C. area, and that's who we went
00:10:05 ◼ ► to see. Yeah. Which, you know, of course, was the only game in town. But even went to the old,
00:10:25 ◼ ► series and it's such a big deal he kind of had to come he really should have thrown out a pitch but
00:10:29 ◼ ► if he threw out that pitch everybody knew what was going to happen he's going to get booed
00:10:33 ◼ ► vociferously uh i'm not even quite sure why that is now i i do know it almost it really is almost
00:10:41 ◼ ► defies belief that in the 2016 election in the city of Washington he got four percent of the vote.
00:10:47 ◼ ► I mean however popular he is nationwide, you know. Well he's just general in metropolitan areas in
00:10:56 ◼ ► general I think he's not very well liked. And I wonder what kind of reception he would have
00:11:01 ◼ ► gotten in Houston. I would have had to have been warmer or at least mixed right there would have
00:11:07 ◼ ► Definitely. So anyway, what happened is he did show up, but he didn't throw out the first pitch.
00:11:20 ◼ ► have to ask him to be in the box. Right. It is... the ways of diplomacy are so weird. And,
00:11:28 ◼ ► you know, but that's... what you said is exactly right. So the owner didn't want to say,
00:11:33 ◼ ► I don't want you in my box." So the owner went to the league and said, "I don't want to be put in a
00:11:38 ◼ ► position of being asked if he could be in my box. You know, we'll get him another luxury box. We'll
00:11:45 ◼ ► get him his own box." Yeah, we're gonna kick somebody else out of their box. Which I wonder
00:11:50 ◼ ► about that too, like where'd that box come from? You would think that, you know, a luxury box for
00:11:56 ◼ ► the World Series, like did somebody have to be... Some terrible company probably donated it. Some,
00:12:01 ◼ ► you know, some, you know, like tobacco or gun company probably donated it. Yeah. Or maybe
00:12:07 ◼ ► somebody who doesn't even like Trump just did it for the team, you know, and they were like, hey,
00:12:11 ◼ ► if you'll give up, we know you've got this, we've got this box, but they get the secret service
00:12:15 ◼ ► wants him in this one. They think, you know, the, the line, you know, the, I'm sure the secret
00:12:27 ◼ ► But they also invited a chef, I forget his name, Jose something, to throw out the first pitch
00:12:34 ◼ ► instead of Trump for the game five. And he's a vocal critic of Trump. So they invited a guy who
00:12:40 ◼ ► is a critic of Trump to throw out the first pitch. He didn't show up. Trump, in his entourage, did
00:12:44 ◼ ► not show up until the third inning. So they missed the opening pitch. And then they put him up on the
00:12:51 ◼ ► scoreboard in between innings. And a PA announcer said, "Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the
00:13:54 ◼ ► Yeah, it might you know, he might I'm sure he knew he was gonna get booed that there were that there would be booze
00:14:02 ◼ ► I'm not well, who knows with this. Are we sure that he doesn't really think he's super popular
00:14:09 ◼ ► Like maybe he has no idea that his handlers never let him go to a yes neutral right thing like he did
00:14:24 ◼ ► Because he doesn't even go to like the Kennedy Awards and and I don't even think he would get booed at a thing like that
00:14:43 ◼ ► Oh, yeah, he has never attended that the White House Correspondents Dinner the way that's it. That's right. Yeah
00:14:51 ◼ ► It's so he gets they make jokes they yeah, yeah, they well they make jokes that they're not their expense and that was you know
00:15:16 ◼ ► superhero villain origin story. Because what happened, for those of you who don't know,
00:15:21 ◼ ► you can Google it and it's kind of heartbreaking in hindsight, but in 2011 or 2012, I forget,
00:15:28 ◼ ► but Barack Obama was speaking at this White House Correspondents Dinner, which is like a roast,
00:15:32 ◼ ► and you know, it's supposed to get up there and you have to effectively do like stand up,
00:15:36 ◼ ► and had a whole bit ripping into Trump who was in attendance, making fun of him for having
00:15:43 ◼ ► supported that theory that Barack Obama's birth certificate was forged and he was actually
00:15:49 ◼ ► born in Kenya and therefore ineligible to be the president. Ridiculous conspiracy theory.
00:15:56 ◼ ► Really really laid into Trump. I mean really laid into him and it was very funny and apparently
00:16:02 ◼ ► infuriated Trump and a lot of people think might have been the deciding moment that made
00:16:18 ◼ ► Right. Right. I know. Instead of going back and killing Hitler, going back to Obama not
00:16:30 ◼ ► Or like going back and instead of killing Hitler, I just, you know, giving them a couple
00:17:25 ◼ ► You know, it's funny though. You see, like, you say, like, so, like, the cities themselves
00:17:29 ◼ ► overwhelmingly. I didn't know how this would play out. I don't know how that I don't know who goes
00:17:33 ◼ ► to World Series games, you know, like, it would occur to me that there might be fans of the
00:17:37 ◼ ► Nationals, not just who live in the city or in the metro area, but it might come from quite far away
00:17:43 ◼ ► in region, you know, there might. I wasn't sure that it that the crowd would be overwhelmingly
00:17:48 ◼ ► against him, you know, like, you know, that the people who are against them are going to boo. But
00:17:54 ◼ ► I thought maybe there'd be a lot of other people who it seems like there's probably a number of
00:17:58 ◼ ► people from Northern Virginia who go and because it's right there right and a lot of those people
00:18:05 ◼ ► are conservative yeah but apparently not or apparently they just you know kept their mouth
00:18:12 ◼ ► shut but it was quite a thing to see uh i would imagine like i don't remember it and it wasn't as
00:18:19 ◼ ► contentious but i would imagine that there were certainly like if you know somebody like barack
00:18:23 ◼ ► obama comes out to throw a pitch there's going to be some people who boo and there's going to be
00:18:27 ◼ ► some people who cheer but I don't think the boos are really gonna it's not gonna be like it was
00:18:32 ◼ ► last night no there really is quite a thing when you think about it that he never goes somewhere
00:18:37 ◼ ► where it's uh just like any famously you know even though he's from New York he never goes back to
00:18:44 ◼ ► New York I mean I guess he was there for like the UN meeting or whatever but he never appears in
00:18:48 ◼ ► public yeah um and it's just New York hates him hates him even more yeah I think so too and I
00:19:55 ◼ ► I don't have blocks up on his tweets, so I wait for other people to retweet or something
00:20:07 ◼ ► He tweeted the other night, I guess in preparation for his morning announcement that they killed
00:20:24 ◼ ► Like, you can't do that as the President of the United States. Like, he's, you know what
00:20:28 ◼ ► I mean? Like, put aside all this other stuff, like, how do you not, you know, and then he
00:20:33 ◼ ► had one up to I couldn't believe it. I honestly, God couldn't believe it is that it eventually
00:20:37 ◼ ► did delete this one. But for hours, at least half a day, he had up a tweet that consisted
00:20:43 ◼ ► of four periods and that was it. Just dot, dot, dot, dot. And that was the entire tweet.
00:20:55 ◼ ► tweets from his phone, but you know, you can fat finger the return button on the keyboard
00:21:02 ◼ ► return and he gives you a new line and sometimes it sends, right, some chats. So you know,
00:21:08 ◼ ► you can hit return on a tweet before you're done and maybe have it go out there and then
00:22:32 ◼ ► That's that's that's good work. Good. I say bravo to the to the to the fans of the Washington Nationals. Yeah, me too
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00:25:14 ◼ ► I'm just not sure. Yeah, I don't know if I could talk about him for 45 minutes. I'm not crazy
00:25:29 ◼ ► So I have to root for the Nationals maybe good for the city. Yeah, I do. It's funny. I do the opposite
00:25:35 ◼ ► You hold a parade for the team to beats the Yankees whether they go on to win or lose the world series
00:25:58 ◼ ► Simultaneous with the move went from a historic sad sack team to the best team in baseball over the last five years.
00:26:26 ◼ ► They they were like we're gonna we got to start over and they did have a historically bad season. They lost lost 100 games
00:26:37 ◼ ► Maybe it's my imagination, but I I have a feeling that if I checked that they would have a strong winning record against the Mariners
00:26:43 ◼ ► We had three other, you know, from the you know, whenever these teams were founded sometime in the 70s, right? Yeah
00:26:50 ◼ ► So the big news we got big news today just dropped out of nowhere. Yeah unexpectedly on
00:27:04 ◼ ► There even that's even the name and there so I believe unless I'm wrong that this is the first time Apple has adopted my
00:27:27 ◼ ► Talented golfer might have hit three holes in attorneys general attorneys general is a famous one
00:27:42 ◼ ► I'm not quite sure where the phrase Attorney General went for came from but because general is an adjective describing the attorney who you are
00:28:10 ◼ ► now there's two. Like I wanted to say that I was like talking about the tips, you know,
00:28:16 ◼ ► there's like three adjustable size tips you can have with them. And it just seems funny
00:28:54 ◼ ► And they hit, you know, I go out of my way, I have my quirks in my writing style. I like
00:29:06 ◼ ► often ask about that. And one of the reasons that I adopted that style, especially like
00:29:25 ◼ ► add an S and just type iPhone space 8 lowercase s. You've suddenly invented the iPhone 8S.
00:30:00 ◼ ► You know, they did have the 10S though. So the iPhone X, the big capital X, you couldn't
00:30:07 ◼ ► pluralize that with an S either because it would look like a 10S which you thought, "Well,
00:30:21 ◼ ► so of course they did exactly that. The other thing you could do, and it is against, in
00:30:29 ◼ ► my opinion, I guess, as in all such things, there's no decider in chief, but it is sometimes
00:30:39 ◼ ► there it's a common error. People make the typographical error where they'll use an apostrophe
00:30:50 ◼ ► people and it's a common typo that everybody makes, myself included, where you type I T
00:31:02 ◼ ► even coin a term for that years ago. I called it an it so but that didn't really that didn't
00:31:16 ◼ ► I tried to make it so a thing. Although every once in a while when I commit and it's so
00:31:22 ◼ ► and and use the wrong it's every once in a while a kind reader will report it to me later
00:31:34 ◼ ► I had like a button to hit to just send a t-shirt to somebody I would like to send the daring
00:31:37 ◼ ► fireball t-shirt to anybody who calls it and it's so but anyway you could but I am not a fan of the
00:31:44 ◼ ► apostrophe s for plural I'm a fan of it when it's like like how would you spell mind your p's and q's
00:31:51 ◼ ► would you just avoid I would avoid saying that you are you would say I would say it but I wouldn't
00:32:00 ◼ ► and type it. So um, wow. Yeah, I mean, I would I would probably large P small s. Yeah, but
00:32:10 ◼ ► that kind of looks like small Photoshop, you know, but in that instance, it's not iPhones.
00:32:19 ◼ ► stodgy New York Times manual of style and usage, which I have a copy of, and often defer
00:32:25 ◼ ► to when I have a question about such a thing. I believe their policy is that when you're
00:32:30 ◼ ► talking about individual letters or numbers, you pluralize them by adding apostrophe s.
00:32:58 ◼ ► Oh yeah, I don't like that. Yeah. Unless the period was in the original quoted material.
00:33:02 ◼ ► Yes. So I do that. That's one of those things where it's like, I've been writing Daring
00:33:05 ◼ ► Fireball for long enough where it's like, people have given up on telling me about that.
00:33:11 ◼ ► Like kind, and I do appreciate it. I, so many people, do you get this too? I'm sure you
00:33:16 ◼ ► do. Like it's such a thing online where somehow we as a culture have made it a shameful thing
00:33:27 ◼ ► That somehow in the internet that you're not supposed to correct people's mistakes and in some context
00:33:35 ◼ ► Yes, you could definitely see how that's considered rude. Like if you're in like a thread or something like that
00:33:52 ◼ ► They begin by apologizing and I always write back if I if I write back, you know, no apology necessary
00:33:57 ◼ ► I love typo reports and I would love to hear about the same one a hundred times then never hear about it at all
00:34:08 ◼ ► I'm sure it doesn't other people have have told them about it already. You don't respond to Chris Pepper anymore
00:34:18 ◼ ► He always sends something so it's like I would be spending my entire day responding to Chris Pepper if I responded
00:34:34 ◼ ► Thank you. Just to let him know, you know, like hey, I know I don't thank you every time but good God you catch these fast
00:34:45 ◼ ► I quibble with something that he sends me and I don't agree with it and I don't change it, but he's usually
00:34:50 ◼ ► Even in those instances, correct? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, even when I did I'm just being yeah, I'm being stubborn
00:35:00 ◼ ► So you can't just do well you could use apostrophes but many people would report it as a typo
00:35:42 ◼ ► But anyway, you can tie yourself up in a knot very easily Apple goes out of its way often to avoid
00:35:53 ◼ ► They had a footnote they like when they talk about battery life. They always include a footnote to talk about their
00:36:06 ◼ ► iPhone 11 Pro Max units, which is the sort of thing that they're probably like one half
00:36:16 ◼ ► of one. I'm not gonna even read the footnote. So you're already in like 1% territory. But
00:36:22 ◼ ► whoever it is out there at Apple who who coined that phrase, I know that whoever it was thought
00:36:27 ◼ ► very long and hard about it. Because they know they couldn't say iPhone, they used more
00:36:32 ◼ ► than one, you know, they were testing. It wasn't like, hey, let's figure out the battery
00:36:37 ◼ ► life for these things. We'll test them with one iPhone. Right. So they use several iPhone
00:36:43 ◼ ► 11 Pro Maxes, but they can't call them iPhone 11 Pro Maxes because Apple won't pluralize
00:36:48 ◼ ► it that way. So they call them units. They also can't call them phone. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
00:37:04 ◼ ► all the time and hopefully the people reading it don't notice it but then one it's one of
00:37:08 ◼ ► those things where when you're inside baseball just to go back to the baseball you notice
00:37:14 ◼ ► it in other people's sentences and footnotes and you're like oh I see what you had to do
00:37:23 ◼ ► the way that writers always sympathize with each other because you know that whoever wrote
00:37:27 ◼ ► that got stuck there. Like that wasn't something that that wasn't when the juices were flowing.
00:37:34 ◼ ► That is like you stop, you take your hands off the keyboard and you really start thinking
00:37:38 ◼ ► about this and you start weighing your options. Do I call them devices? Do I call them units?
00:38:50 ◼ ► on Tuesday and they're doing press briefings but I didn't even find out about this till
00:38:55 ◼ ► Sunday night. It's like that's how snap of the fingers this whole thing was. It was like
00:39:02 ◼ ► Sunday night, John, are you free on Tuesday afternoon? We have a new product announcement
00:39:31 ◼ ► a rubber tip, or not even like a rubber tip, they have rubber tips. What would you call
00:39:37 ◼ ► the rod that comes down out of your ear is significantly shorter than the existing AirPod
00:39:50 ◼ ► wider, sort of like, you know, sort of reminds me of the fat nano, the way that, you remember
00:39:57 ◼ ► - You know, it's a sort of squatter case because these buds with, you know, the buds are bigger
00:40:11 ◼ ► Yeah. Yeah. Because these are headphones, I should be clear about what I'm saying is that
00:40:32 ◼ ► Well, the colors are fantastic, aren't you? Don't you think? I made fun I don't know if you caught
00:40:37 ◼ ► up on there. I right before I did. That's why I mentioned it. I did think I was like, didn't I
00:40:43 ◼ ► just read it like over the weekend? And in fact, it was over the weekend. There was some Chinese
00:40:48 ◼ ► language source and you know, like, I hope it doesn't come across that I'm slagging on Mac
00:40:53 ◼ ► rumors, Mac rumors by the you know, the part of the original idea for the whole site was that they
00:40:58 ◼ ► would just publish all the rumors that come across, you know, and point you know, link to all the
00:41:32 ◼ ► well. So that seemed like a red flag to me over the weekend that yeah, this doesn't seem right.
00:41:44 ◼ ► Right. And it just has never arrived. Just an awful lot of people just like the color black.
00:41:50 ◼ ► I think an awful lot of people would prefer that they're they'd be slightly less conspicuous.
00:41:57 ◼ ► You know, it's it's yes. I mean, yeah, I agree with people who say that air pods look goofy
00:42:02 ◼ ► They I think they do look goofy. I think they're a terrific device, but they look goofy in your ears
00:42:19 ◼ ► Makes them look odd, but doesn't it seem like it's the opposite like taking away the like a little cigarette buds sticking out
00:42:26 ◼ ► But sticking out of your ear. Yeah, but right dear you're old enough. I mean you do you remember when TV remote controls were wired? Oh
00:42:33 ◼ ► Yeah, they there was only like a very brief period of time my family never even owned one, but my uncle I still have that
00:42:55 ◼ ► Is that a real dial and they're gonna mention and there are always I don't know why this was there were always two dials and the
00:43:10 ◼ ► It depended it depend on where you were. I mean every once in a while if you were in in a major metropolitan area
00:43:17 ◼ ► I think you could get a UHF station. So you'd move the the top dial to the UHF setting, right?
00:43:25 ◼ ► instead of being like having that clicky turn thing, would just be like sort of freeform like a volume
00:43:43 ◼ ► But that was how you had 68 you literally had to get up and go to the TV and turn a dial to change the channel
00:43:59 ◼ ► I'm watching you know, what sheckle and heckle and sheckle again your homesick and are you gonna watch heckle and sheckle again?
00:44:12 ◼ ► You know, there was a character named Gruber on on McHale's Navy. No, I did not remember that
00:44:16 ◼ ► Yeah, it was not it was sort of a second tier character. It wasn't it wasn't Ernest Borg 9
00:44:21 ◼ ► Yeah, like the commandant but one of the one of the one of the guys and McHale's crew was named Gruber and I believe
00:44:36 ◼ ► He was only referred to by his last name and whereas the other characters on the show either had first names or Nick
00:44:42 ◼ ► names or something. And it's my belief that there's something inherent about the surname
00:44:48 ◼ ► Gruber that lends itself to people being referred to as Gruber. Like, I've talked to this
00:44:53 ◼ ► with my cousins on my dad's side, and all three—there are three boys, and well, they're
00:45:00 ◼ ► grown men now—but all of them were referred to as Gruber by their pals. And I think there's
00:45:21 ◼ ► Anyway, I'd get hopelessly bored and I'd think, "Let me try those extra channels again." And I'd
00:45:25 ◼ ► go to the UHF and I'd start twisting and nothing. Absolutely nothing. But then another month would
00:45:31 ◼ ► go by and I'd try it again. Anyway. Yeah, but you had to—it was a combination thing, right? It was
00:45:36 ◼ ► like a magic spell because you had to move the dial and you also had to move the antenna.
00:45:43 ◼ ► So we have not had cable in the house in, my god, a long time. Eight years probably, at least.
00:45:55 ◼ ► And my father-in-law is now living with us and has wanted to watch some sporting events, which
00:46:03 ◼ ► like I said, I've been avoiding because my favorite team is not very good. And so we've had to
00:46:10 ◼ ► figure out a way to watch some of these sporting events. And we have an antenna. We have a digital
00:46:17 ◼ ► antenna. And so I have recently been reintroduced to the process of having to reposition the aerial
00:46:24 ◼ ► in order to pick up the stations. Yeah. It's quite nostalgic and really super annoying.
00:46:32 ◼ ► I was the sort of kid who would mess with stuff I wasn't supposed to mess with if I thought I could
00:46:40 ◼ ► figure it out, but dealing with the antenna was never even tempting because my parents' home
00:46:45 ◼ ► has like an almost bizarrely sloped roof. Like, who thought that was a good... I don't see how
00:46:54 ◼ ► anybody ever went up there and did any roofing work without sliding right off to their death.
00:47:00 ◼ ► So that was it that would be you had an antenna on the roof. We had an antenna on the roof
00:47:11 ◼ ► No, we had it up on the roof and and there were times like I could maybe it it, you know
00:47:32 ◼ ► was always a real, a real, a real production because my mom would be yelling at him that
00:47:45 ◼ ► If you like, yeah, just if you remember going to war, if you remember George Costanza's
00:47:56 ◼ ► And it's like, my dad is a very genial, one of the nicest guys you'd ever meet. Everybody
00:48:05 ◼ ► who knows him loves him. He truly is a very, much more so than me, a very kind, friendly
00:48:14 ◼ ► human being. But he could get, you know, as a younger man, he had more of a temper. And,
00:48:24 ◼ ► Yeah, nobody's in a good mood if you have to get up on the roof. Yeah, so he's already in a bad mood
00:48:29 ◼ ► Sure, it didn't happen all the time. But then there's my mom yelling at him Bob. You're gonna kill yourself
00:48:52 ◼ ► So anyway, they invented everybody realized that getting up walking across the room and flipping a dial by on the TV set was you know
00:48:59 ◼ ► Terrible everybody could imagine wouldn't it be great if we could change channels from right here. Well the first remote controls
00:49:07 ◼ ► There'd be a wire going from your TV over. Yeah long cable running from the TV to your couch. Yeah
00:49:23 ◼ ► But I'm trying to remember if we even I don't even think we had a no actually no we did
00:49:29 ◼ ► Yeah, we had a black and white with a with a channel changer and the way that it worked
00:49:33 ◼ ► It would literally, you know, of course, it would literally change the dial. It would move the diet had
00:49:38 ◼ ► You know, you hit this button like this could junk this big metal thing and it would send an IR signal
00:50:17 ◼ ► Yeah, that station for what station it was on. Yeah, and I remember my uncle had a remote control at one point
00:50:32 ◼ ► Cuz they still were only 13 channels. Yeah, they just had a button for each channel and when you pressed
00:50:53 ◼ ► To have a TV in his in his room and be able to watch stuff like through the Apple TV on his own
00:51:27 ◼ ► But just using it just buying another remote and putting my Apple TV remote and in the drawer
00:51:33 ◼ ► Is that the sort of thing I don't want to pry in your family life John, but is that the sort of thing where
00:51:45 ◼ ► Moved and I got along very well with with both my father and mother-in-law to be honest
00:51:59 ◼ ► Good relationship with both, but if he moved in and I had to explain to him that I don't get
00:52:07 ◼ ► I don't get it. I think he's a little he's a little put off by that, you know, he's very easygoing
00:52:14 ◼ ► I mean, you know, I make dinner and anything that I make he's just like oh, this is fantastic
00:52:18 ◼ ► So it's been it's been actually very nice and he has taught he used to be I think I've did I explain this on this show
00:52:25 ◼ ► I've explained it on several other shows, but he was a grand. He was a well not a grandmaster. He was a chess master and in
00:52:33 ◼ ► 1962 or something beat Bobby Fischer get the hell out. I never heard this. Yeah get the hell out of here
00:52:39 ◼ ► Yeah, it was one of those games where Fischer was going around playing like 10 different people at the same time
00:52:45 ◼ ► So he made his move and Fischer came back around and looked at the board and just knocked his king over
00:53:02 ◼ ► You gotta sign this card and he's noted in some some book someplace or and it's one of those, you know with chess
00:53:19 ◼ ► But but I think I think there was an expression of his face, you know, we're like we don't have cable
00:53:59 ◼ ► And the jump to everybody just has their own cell phone and their own number and you just
00:54:39 ◼ ► You have a number, you dial the number, and then that phone rings and if the other person
00:55:22 ◼ ► Let's watch the football game. Oh, we can't watch the football game because we refuse to pay for cable
00:55:35 ◼ ► You don't have it you say you don't have the sort of thing like a YouTube TV or the PlayStation
00:56:00 ◼ ► Mean I've seen that they have TV they have a TV thing, but I consider that sort of like buying cable
00:56:14 ◼ ► Hopefully it's you know helping overall just because it's sort of breaking the monopoly of local cable companies
00:57:15 ◼ ► because I live in Philadelphia. Literally, it's Capletown. Forget it, John, it's Capletown.
00:57:34 ◼ ► those of you who don't know, Comcast, which is a giant media conglomerate that owns way
00:57:40 ◼ ► more other media conglomerates than you can even keep track of. They probably just bought
00:58:10 ◼ ► because they own the team right all right i think yeah i'm pretty sure they own that team
00:58:15 ◼ ► and everybody loves gritty and i love gritty too but you know sorry he's a registered trademark
00:58:22 ◼ ► of the comcast corporation well and it's and it it's pretty you know to go back to baseball they
00:58:29 ◼ ► they don't own the phillies but they own the phillies tv rights uh and so so if you ever
00:59:17 ◼ ► natural and they kind of extend them in the playoffs. But in the regular season, it doesn't
00:59:24 ◼ ► delay the game at all. It's one of the beautiful things about televised baseball. But they
00:59:32 ◼ ► They don't even do that. They don't even show the ads because they don't really care about the ads.
00:59:35 ◼ ► They just want to make sure everybody who cares about baseball in Philadelphia has a cable subscription.
00:59:45 ◼ ► This is an all-time great digression on this podcast because this is all related to whether or not AirPods look silly with or without wires.
00:59:58 ◼ ► I'm usually the first one to forget how a digression started, but I've somehow still had this in mind and
01:00:04 ◼ ► And I've been trying to tie it together with some kind of joke about cord cutters cable cutters. What do they call them?
01:00:10 ◼ ► Oh, yeah, right. Yeah, sure because you get this you and I always wonder like are there anybody is there anybody out there?
01:00:15 ◼ ► I have always wondered this and this is why I've been wanting to make this observation for 10 minutes now is
01:00:29 ◼ ► you're somehow showing off if you have AirPods and that it's a sign that you're cool or whatever,
01:00:34 ◼ ► which is very alien to me. And I just wonder how many people there's got to be some people who've done it
01:00:40 ◼ ► I mean like teenagers or something who've just taken like the old AirPods and cut cords
01:00:47 ◼ ► Which obviously wouldn't work at all. So they've just got them in there. It's like Merlin holding his wallet up to his ear
01:00:57 ◼ ► Right, at least if you'd see Merlin holding his wallet up to his ear if you really look at it
01:01:07 ◼ ► You'd notice I mean you'd have to get really close but you'd have to get really uncomfortably close
01:01:21 ◼ ► But you could you imagine going up to somebody really close to the ear and they're like, what are you doing?
01:01:25 ◼ ► And then you had to tell them I just wanted to see if you really had air pods or if you just cut the cords
01:01:36 ◼ ► They won't like they don't like anything. I mean, you know, they look quite a bit not like the the ear pods
01:02:03 ◼ ► Biff is the one you guys talk about superheroes. Yes, is that is guy English on that? Okay, the guy English is on yes
01:02:42 ◼ ► You're gonna talk about Dan's weird ears. Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, so Dan had been a hero today that he
01:03:00 ◼ ► Which I found very you know, but he may it you say it's it's because he has unusual ears or something
01:03:07 ◼ ► Well, so this is the thing about air pods is that there's half the world thinks the other half's
01:03:13 ◼ ► Ears are weird and the other half thinks that has ears are weird because they either either fits you or they don't fit you and
01:03:21 ◼ ► They fit me great and earbuds have always fit me really well. Yeah, and I've always I've always liked earpods
01:03:41 ◼ ► But they don't they don't work for him because he's his ears are different and there's a lot of people like that
01:03:46 ◼ ► Yeah, I know Marco Arment has never really been happy with any kind. Yeah, it's just it has to do
01:03:52 ◼ ► It's just you know just a shape shape. Yeah, I remember I remember when they when they debuted air pods
01:03:56 ◼ ► I believe it was in the Johnny I've narrated video that he talked about the fact that they spent
01:04:14 ◼ ► women men and children and young people and old people and you know also as many years as they could scan that they scanned them and
01:04:36 ◼ ► I couldn't see a damn bit of difference in the shape of the thing that goes in your ear
01:04:40 ◼ ► But I know of several people. I I can't name them off the top of my head. So call fake news if you want, but I
01:05:00 ◼ ► And that they therefore were terrified to buy AirPods because they assumed they would fall
01:05:10 ◼ ► and B, they're wireless, you know, they could go anywhere, right? Whereas a wired one falling out,
01:05:15 ◼ ► while it's still just dangling connected to the to the cord. But who then tried AirPods,
01:05:21 ◼ ► I get an Apple store or something and lo and behold they actually fit so there is some difference
01:05:47 ◼ ► But even so that doesn't fit all ears. Yeah, my concern is that Apple will now switch to this design
01:05:52 ◼ ► Which I don't like because I never liked the ones that are like plugs in your ears. Yeah
01:06:00 ◼ ► Even when I get noise cancelling ones, I have to get the over the ear style because I can't deal with those
01:06:06 ◼ ► I had so I so I you know much much as they have gone to large phones against my wishes. I
01:06:22 ◼ ► Or if it's just the fact that they plug your ear, but I think they were noise cancelling
01:06:30 ◼ ► Yeah, I had those and maybe you got them when I were no I think they were noise cancelling
01:06:36 ◼ ► I think they were too and I got them in the goodie bag for being a speaker at Mac World Expo
01:06:45 ◼ ► Think we're in the little like round case. Yeah. Yep, and they were black. Yeah. Yep. Yeah, so we got gray but anyway
01:06:55 ◼ ► And I remember getting them and there's all sorts of stuff in that goodie bag. It was it wasn't really quite a racket
01:07:01 ◼ ► I mean that was really that was that was the time that was of the brief the brief moment in time that I
01:07:09 ◼ ► I mean hey that shows how long ago was because macworld Expo feels like feels like I was a kid when I went to macworld Expo
01:07:23 ◼ ► It was like and it was gonna become like an annual tradition. It was like Gruber's list
01:07:33 ◼ ► Because it just seemed to I didn't know how to fit it in so I think I put it in like number two or number
01:07:50 ◼ ► it was that it was, it was not just when Steve Jobs was around, but when it was still sort
01:07:54 ◼ ► of a well, what if something happened to Steve Jobs? But anyway, the goodie bag included
01:07:59 ◼ ► all this other I don't who knows how much other stuff but they had these sure. ear pods,
01:08:05 ◼ ► buds, whatever you want to call them. They're noise canceling. And I like was like, I'm
01:08:13 ◼ ► them and I like Google does I wonder how much these are. I bet they're like 80 or 90 bucks
01:08:26 ◼ ► were like $300 headphones. And I wound up loving them. I date I never liked things that
01:08:38 ◼ ► Yeah I tried those for a while and they didn't work well enough for me. So I gave them to
01:08:49 ◼ ► but I've had a few others in the years since where there were earbuds that had multiple
01:09:07 ◼ ► material. Yeah, different types of material, very different shapes. They even had it was
01:09:10 ◼ ► like, there was a case for the headphones. And there was like a case for the extra nubbins
01:09:23 ◼ ► drive me nuts. This is this is where I'm not going to say I'm OCD. But this is where I'm
01:09:28 ◼ ► on the spectrum of OCD is it's like indecisiveness, right? Like, I'm gonna it's gonna torment me for
01:09:34 ◼ ► the rest of my life that I maybe picked the wrong ones, but I put this put the default ones in my
01:09:39 ◼ ► ear. I was like, huh, these sound these are a more comfortable than I thought. And then I was like,
01:09:43 ◼ ► these are really comfortable. And I kind of liked them. And so I never even tried the other ones
01:09:47 ◼ ► because I was like, I was afraid to. But I wound up I use those as my airplane headphones for years
01:09:54 ◼ ► and years and years and really always enjoyed them and I forget why I guess I gave them up I gave them
01:10:01 ◼ ► up to get want to go wireless a couple years ago because it's a little known fact but people a lot
01:10:08 ◼ ► of people most people didn't notice but the the iphone got rid of the headphone jack are you sure
01:10:16 ◼ ► I think I would have read about that I am absolutely are you well you would have thought it
01:10:19 ◼ ► would have been a bigger deal but I would have thought that would have been on the verge
01:10:30 ◼ ► He's a very smart guy. He doesn't miss much. I would think that he would have written about it.
01:10:38 ◼ ► and I got a pair of the Bose over-the-ear ones. Anyways, I'm curious how these AirPods are going
01:10:45 ◼ ► to work. I'm not as skeptical as I would have been if I hadn't had that very positive experience
01:10:54 ◼ ► Well, and I think what's interesting about where you talked about the nubbins, so supposedly
01:11:04 ◼ ► Yeah, that's what Dan linked to. Yeah, so there's some kind of way in software. I don't know where
01:11:11 ◼ ► this is. I guess it's in, it's probably one of those things I'm sure that'll be iOS only and
01:11:16 ◼ ► won't make it to the Mac. But there I guess in settings somewhere, there'll be some kind of way
01:11:22 ◼ ► that you can. It's unclear. I guess I'll find out tomorrow when I go up for this media briefing,
01:11:28 ◼ ► like, okay, so there's a test but how do you get to it is in the settings app? Do you just your
01:11:32 ◼ ► ear tip fit test ear tips? Yeah, your tip fit test. That sounds like one of those things that
01:11:38 ◼ ► you say like a tongue twister to get ready to go on a podcast. Your tip fit. It's pluralized ears,
01:11:43 ◼ ► tip. God damn plurals. This would all be so much easier if we as a species only had one ear.
01:12:02 ◼ ► Right. Yeah, because everything else is taken, right? We only have one mouth, right? You know?
01:12:12 ◼ ► Yeah, there's probably a planet somewhere where everybody has all the species all the their equivalent of mammals
01:12:17 ◼ ► Everybody has two mouths, you know, because what happens what happens if you know you you get a toothache into one mouth
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01:17:15 ◼ ► easily because it was right there on the website. But she pointed me to like the section where
01:17:31 ◼ ► color television, can you watch a black and white movie? Black and white are two of the
01:18:16 ◼ ► White, rumored to have come in black and midnight green just like the other phones didn't
01:18:24 ◼ ► My theory, as I spoused on my website earlier today, is that they sort of see them as a
01:18:29 ◼ ► branding thing, that they're sort of an iconic look that dates back to the ad campaign for
01:18:35 ◼ ► iPods that lasted for years, years and years and years, those silhouette of people listening
01:18:42 ◼ ► It was a very long-running ad campaign and I feel like today's air pods still sort of carry on that like you see
01:18:50 ◼ ► People walking down the street wearing white things sticking out of their ears and you just know their air pods and that would be diluted
01:19:02 ◼ ► Yeah, even even though other companies make I mean in four years have made white right wired headphones
01:19:15 ◼ ► It reminds you of Apple. Yeah, even if you're seeing someone who's not actually wearing their headphones
01:19:21 ◼ ► Yeah, and for some reason nobody's really come out with air pods that really look like air pods
01:19:32 ◼ ► No name brand. Yeah. Yeah. No name brand has really come out with anything that really follows that that
01:19:38 ◼ ► that rod sticking out of a thing pointing down design. There's all sorts of different designs
01:19:43 ◼ ► that people have come out with for their wireless earbuds, but nobody's really copied that yet.
01:19:48 ◼ ► Whether they did it out of deference, like pride, like we're not going to copy this iconic design,
01:19:55 ◼ ► or whether there's some kind of technical reason that Apple has an ability to make them like that
01:20:00 ◼ ► and put the battery in that little rod that others technically haven't been able to copy, I don't
01:20:33 ◼ ► Why hasn't Samsung made something that looks as much like AirPods as they possibly can?
01:20:43 ◼ ► because it's sort of like they're not white and only white for our benefit. It's sort of for
01:20:50 ◼ ► Apple's benefit as a branding thing. So for the people who wish that they made black ones,
01:20:59 ◼ ► sort of sucks. And I assume, I mean, we think that there will be AR glasses coming sometime,
01:21:08 ◼ ► and I would assume that because that is something that is more front and center on the face,
01:21:12 ◼ ► but it would, assuming that these things are real, that they would be more fashion oriented.
01:21:25 ◼ ► I'm trying to think of how they would look so that you can still make them your own statement and then
01:21:54 ◼ ► all the rumors are being cheek-quo really. Well, all the good ones. Yeah, all the ones from the
01:21:58 ◼ ► supply chain. But he, you know, he just, he came out a couple weeks ago, a week or two ago and said,
01:22:05 ◼ ► no idea what they look like. And I find stuff like that fascinating that, you know, he's confident
01:22:11 ◼ ► enough in his source that he's, you know, willing to put his reputation on the line by saying
01:22:17 ◼ ► definitively that Apple's currently planning to come out with them in 2020. But it has no idea
01:22:30 ◼ ► You know, this is a good aside, really, because it's like there's different ways to do glasses.
01:22:40 ◼ ► Well, and the biggest thing would be, is this something you're supposed to wear all day?
01:22:44 ◼ ► Which is what the idea behind Google Glass was, that this is something you would wake up in the
01:22:50 ◼ ► morning and put on and then you walk around all day with these things on and you yeah you would go
01:22:55 ◼ ► to dinner so you mean from like a functional standpoint right from a functional standpoint
01:23:00 ◼ ► as opposed to like i'm talking about style or is it is it more like air pods where it is a thing
01:23:05 ◼ ► that you would wear temporarily you know like you don't to do something i'm sure that i'm sure that
01:23:12 ◼ ► there's some kids who wear their air pods all day but i think there are people yeah i mean i
01:23:18 ◼ ► you know, we went out to lunch on Sunday and for dim sum and there were I saw several people wearing
01:23:30 ◼ ► Yeah, so I you know, but but that's my thought is maybe that these don't think of it as Google
01:23:36 ◼ ► Glass, think of it as something more like AirPods for your eyes and that you'd put them on. Maybe
01:23:40 ◼ ► you're going for a walk or a run or something and you'd put them on while you're going and then you
01:23:54 ◼ ► know. It's just, you know, there's a lot, it's just very common. The watch was a little
01:24:03 ◼ ► that. Like, but if they're not a replacement for prescription glasses, how does somebody
01:24:09 ◼ ► who needs glasses wear them? Right? They kind of have to be right. Like they kind of have
01:24:24 ◼ ► And there's just a lot of questions. Everybody's just like, "Oh, yeah. Apple's all in on
01:24:28 ◼ ► AR and they're going to come out with glasses." But it's like there's a lot of big fundamental
01:24:34 ◼ ► questions surrounding a product like that that I don't know how they square that circle.
01:24:39 ◼ ► And the fashion angle is one too, where it's like, okay, so now everybody, half the people
01:24:49 ◼ ► But right from the get-go, I mean, if anything, they might have had more variety of watch
01:25:05 ◼ ► right from the beginning, day one, they were like, we have a zillion different watch straps
01:25:11 ◼ ► to choose from of different styles and materials, you know, rubber and leather and metal bracelets
01:25:24 ◼ ► they change them up every six months. So that's a big part of how they pulled this off. Like,
01:25:56 ◼ ► I think it's crazy that we dealt with those fiddly little prongs on watches prior to the
01:26:09 ◼ ► Right. It's like the easiest to change watch strap I've ever seen. And I'm a bit of a watch
01:26:14 ◼ ► nerd is nowhere near as easy to change as the Apple Watch one. And I've done it because I have
01:26:21 ◼ ► a couple of mechanical watches and I've changed the straps on them and it's terrifying.
01:26:34 ◼ ► So you'll never find it again. But you could scratch it, you know, you have to use a tool
01:26:41 ◼ ► that you if it's, you know, most watches are made of material, even like stainless steel that could
01:26:45 ◼ ► be easily scratched, you know, you don't want to do it, but you feel like an income poop taking it
01:26:49 ◼ ► it into somebody else. I wouldn't open the case of a watch if it was a battery-open battery,
01:26:56 ◼ ► a quartz watch with a replaceable battery. If it was waterproof, I wouldn't trust myself
01:27:17 ◼ ► I feel like an income poop, but I do it myself, but it's a pain in the butt. Anyway, that's a huge
01:27:23 ◼ ► part of the Apple Watch success. I don't see how that quite translates to glasses, right? Like,
01:27:28 ◼ ► everybody has the same sort of front-facing frames, but you get to pick the side pieces
01:27:34 ◼ ► that go over your ear. You know, that does it. Right. That doesn't seem right either, right?
01:27:42 ◼ ► Right. And so I don't see it. I don't know. I'm looking forward to seeing what it's all about, but
01:28:13 ◼ ► But then, you know, compare and contrast the variety of watch straps that Apple alone offers,
01:28:23 ◼ ► their own watch straps for the Apple Watch with AirPods, which are white and only white.
01:28:46 ◼ ► 15 years or whatever until it fell apart and then I'd go grudgingly go to the mall and buy a new band
01:28:52 ◼ ► but because it's you know I can change the band so easily I was like oh I gotta get I gotta get
01:28:59 ◼ ► new bands so I got you know I got the one that it came with and then I got two other bands to go
01:29:05 ◼ ► with it yeah so you dropped down in size you went to yeah yeah to the 40 millimeter yeah I stuck
01:29:19 ◼ ► Yeah, I would be curious to know how the sales break down on that, because you figure most
01:29:27 ◼ ► women are going to buy the 40 millimeter because their wrists are smaller. And you know, they've
01:29:38 ◼ ► labeled them as men's and women's. It's always just been two sizes and then both can be dressed
01:29:51 ◼ ► since they increased the size with Series 4, it has to be more people buying a 40 than ever before.
01:30:04 ◼ ► Yeah, yeah, I would think that they would they could find room for you know, another 30 36. Yeah
01:30:10 ◼ ► Yeah, I would think so too. Yeah, but maybe you know that it's already there's already enough SK use. I don't know. Yeah
01:30:18 ◼ ► What else on the airpods so we've got the the nubbins got the nubbin test the ears fit well Jesus
01:30:39 ◼ ► Again, somebody at Apple probably really put some thought into that but looking forward to see how that works
01:30:52 ◼ ► Sized version of what home pods do you know room test? Yeah, right where they it's like it's it plays sound
01:33:20 ◼ ► I think it would be able to say, "Nah, these are not quite right." But if it could say, "Try this one."
01:33:25 ◼ ► I wonder if part of this, you know, so they apparently snap on and snap off. I wonder if
01:33:38 ◼ ► that it knows which size is on. Like, would your AirPods Pro know that you have the medium tips in?
01:33:47 ◼ ► and then say, "Hey, why don't you try the larger ones?" And you're like, "I don't know where they are."
01:33:52 ◼ ► I lost them when I opened the box. I wonder how much replacement tips are going to cost.
01:34:42 ◼ ► Yeah, I mean, you know there here we are. I think it's about seven weeks later eight at the most right? It's
01:34:48 ◼ ► Seven or eight weeks later and here they are and you can pre-order them and they're going to start shipping in two days
01:35:02 ◼ ► 99.8% certain I'm gonna I'm gonna guess it's because they didn't want to affect sales of existing air pods
01:35:17 ◼ ► Replacements for air pods as we know them if these are the new air pods for 160 dollars
01:35:24 ◼ ► And now when you buy our pods is what you get, but they're two hundred and fifty dollars not 160 dollars
01:35:35 ◼ ► I mean, you know, particularly if you're the I mean Apple seems yes exist Apple seems by buying it by a Christmas present now, right?
01:35:43 ◼ ► Apple seems patient enough to me though that that if these are going to affect and and presumably they are going to affect sales of
01:36:09 ◼ ► or whatever else. It seems to me that however big that number is of people who would have
01:36:37 ◼ ► It seems, I mean, in general, I would say that they tend to try to announce things within
01:36:57 ◼ ► in theory, they were really hoping that they would be ready to ship by the end of September,
01:37:01 ◼ ► and they could have announced them on stage, but because they weren't now, they just don't want to
01:37:06 ◼ ► get it. They just don't want to do that. And they, you know, like, and there were, like, the iPhone
01:37:23 ◼ ► 10 are shipped later than no i guess i wonder if they have people who come in and buy both
01:37:37 ◼ ► yeah maybe and and then and they thought well you know if like you're the kind of person who wants
01:37:43 ◼ ► airpods pro you're going to delay your iphone purchase until they come out and they didn't
01:38:13 ◼ ► If they shipped the 10 and the 8 at the same time, all of the reviews would have been entirely about the 10.
01:38:28 ◼ ► And even so, most of the reviews, I remember noting at the time, they still all mentioned the iPhone X,
01:38:43 ◼ ► And that might have been a delay that might not have been on purpose or strategic to stagger
01:38:50 ◼ ► But maybe it was because in my opinion and most other people who reviewed them's opinion,
01:38:59 ◼ ► the XR was so good that for an awful lot of people it was the right phone for them even
01:39:06 ◼ ► not even looking at the price. And they kind of wanted to get as many of the thousand dollar
01:39:13 ◼ ► phone sales as they could. But anyway, so they've done that with things other than AirPower where
01:39:19 ◼ ► they held the event and one of the big announcements wasn't coming until weeks into October.
01:39:52 ◼ ► I wonder how they're going to do the things in the store. I don't know. What did they do now?
01:39:56 ◼ ► I don't know. I wondered that too because you know, if you wanted to come in and try them on,
01:40:05 ◼ ► Burn one every time somebody wants to try it on. I still remember very vividly being just like i'm blown away
01:40:15 ◼ ► By what they were doing but then realizing well they kind of have to do that was that at the
01:40:57 ◼ ► to try AirPods and you'd say yes. And then they would have this tray and then they would
01:41:06 ◼ ► their, you know, like a demo iPhone and they play a couple of songs and ask you what you
01:41:56 ◼ ► Right. Right. You can feel the fit, but it doesn't. That's not enough. Yeah. Hmm. Yeah.
01:42:14 ◼ ► I don't know. We'll find out. I'll file that away for future follow-up. All right. Let me take
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01:42:36 ◼ ► to anything you do while sleeping. Look, you spend one third of your life sleeping. I spend more than
01:42:41 ◼ ► a third. I spend around nine or ten hours a night sleeping. So you should be comfortable. I believe
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01:45:45 ◼ ► It really is. And sometimes it does mean professional. The Mac Pro literally should not be purchased,
01:45:52 ◼ ► or even the iMac Pro should not be purchased by anybody who doesn't really have a professional
01:46:19 ◼ ► better looking iMac, if you prefer space grade to regular aluminum. Those are really pro.
01:46:41 ◼ ► get a 15-inch laptop from Apple is to get a MacBook Pro. So if you want a bigger display,
01:46:46 ◼ ► which is a very normal thing to desire, bigger displays are better. And if you're willing
01:47:36 ◼ ► cleverly used and I think now that the materials are like hundreds of dollars more expensive
01:47:42 ◼ ► as opposed to $15,000 to $20,000 more expensive, I think it works pretty well. I've got the
01:47:54 ◼ ► Yeah, I like it. I was going to talk to Rene about it last week because I know he got one
01:48:16 ◼ ► Okay, I always had the my but I thought it was heavy. I thought it was heavier than the stainless no no it's right
01:48:24 ◼ ► Mathematically in between the weight of aluminum and stainless steel ones oh, so I got it. I got it backwards. Yeah, okay, okay?
01:48:33 ◼ ► I wasn't at that event in September, so I didn't see it and the first thing I was like, ooh
01:48:37 ◼ ► How's that titanium look I texted to Panzorino and he said it has a DeLorean look to it
01:48:44 ◼ ► It's like it's just off the cusp me badgering him while he was in the hands-on area after the event
01:48:58 ◼ ► And this is made out of titanium and the state they do have stainless steel watches, but they're polished not brushed
01:49:10 ◼ ► But I don't feel like the aluminum silver looks good enough. I think the black aluminum silver looks better, and I'm not paying
01:49:16 ◼ ► Which I mean because I'm gonna buy these probably every couple of years and I just I'm not gonna pay
01:49:24 ◼ ► $600 every two years to to get a watch when I you know, I used to pay $70 every two decades, right?
01:49:36 ◼ ► Don't buy I've had three Apple watches. I've bought all of the odd numbered ones. That wasn't necessarily a strategic choice
01:49:56 ◼ ► I guess I did have the zero well the one is weird because the one came out with the two
01:50:04 ◼ ► Then I skipped I skipped a generation then I bought a three then I skipped the four and I just bought a five
01:50:20 ◼ ► Plus shows you were gonna say that came out and the review. Yeah, many of the reviews are not great for
01:50:25 ◼ ► Set for half of the shows anyway, so they the ones that I saw mostly seemed to think that
01:50:32 ◼ ► For all mankind and Dickinson were pretty we're pretty good. Yeah, and then see and the morning show or not
01:50:40 ◼ ► Yeah, although the AV the AV Club was much more favorable to the morning show and gave it a B+ hmm
01:50:48 ◼ ► Yeah, I saw the Hollywood reporters review of the morning show and they they seemed to indicate it was a very interesting review
01:51:02 ◼ ► It's you know, maybe a spot where the lighting is different because it was a shot it they had to pick up a shot
01:51:09 ◼ ► Weeks later we were missing a shot and they didn't get the lighting right or you pick up a shot where they call it ADR
01:51:19 ◼ ► adjusted after the fact because they have to explain a plot point or something like that and
01:51:24 ◼ ► They suggested that there's an awful lot of seams in the first two episodes of the morning show
01:51:32 ◼ ► Seeing what they want to see because they're the Hollywood reporter and they know the backstory the backstory is that the original showrunner?
01:51:42 ◼ ► Of the show got forced out and a new one was brought in and it was already in production and it led to a messy
01:51:49 ◼ ► legal fight with the I don't know what guild it is, but one of the you know, whatever the
01:52:02 ◼ ► Like I always say like once you know this you'll see you it's usually a sign of a movie that is not going to be
01:52:07 ◼ ► good is if the screenwriting credit has five names and and some of that's been passed around right
01:52:15 ◼ ► well and some of them the thing to look for is some of the names are separated by the word
01:52:19 ◼ ► a nd and some of them are separated by ampersands in the same title card it's not a mistake it
01:52:26 ◼ ► actually in the writer's guild of america there is a i don't even know what it is i forget the
01:52:31 ◼ ► difference like i think the ampersand is for like two people who work together work together and
01:52:42 ◼ ► And rewrote it or they threw out large enough portions that they got to put their name in
01:52:52 ◼ ► A separation of teams and the sign of a dispute of some sort, but I could be getting it backwards
01:52:59 ◼ ► It doesn't matter but once you know that when you see an opening of a movie and there's a written by
01:53:04 ◼ ► screenplay by with four names some ampersand some walk out yeah it's probably gonna be messy but
01:53:10 ◼ ► anyway there seemed like there was a lot that according to them there's a lot of that with the
01:53:14 ◼ ► first two episodes of the morning show where it seems uneven and unsure of what what the vibe
01:53:19 ◼ ► it's going for is so anyway i'm looking forward to that show anyway but i'm not i'm just not i
01:53:25 ◼ ► was never interested in it's not the kind of thing that i generally watch i'm you know from the
01:53:30 ◼ ► beginning I was interested in For All Mankind and then I wasn't super impressed by the first trailer
01:53:35 ◼ ► but then this later one I really liked and for some reason I didn't I mean I for some reason I
01:53:43 ◼ ► found Dickinson very interesting and I don't know why I just thought it was weird looking and thought
01:53:50 ◼ ► yeah I'll try that too. I'll try all of them. My wife is not a fan of period pieces and the further
01:53:58 ◼ ► further back in time something goes, the more likely she is to reject it before we even begin
01:54:03 ◼ ► watching it. So I feel like for all mankind is a definite maybe, because the 60s aren't that
01:54:09 ◼ ► long ago. Whereas anything like a Sherlock Holmes type thing, like Victorian, forget it. She'd just
01:54:18 ◼ ► purposely fall asleep. So just be-- I showed it to Karen, and Karen is big into sewing her own
01:54:24 ◼ ► clothes and looked at the outfits and the music and thought she was right there. So she's looking
01:54:32 ◼ ► forward to that. Yeah. Do we even know yet? Are they going to do a Netflix and show them all at
01:54:38 ◼ ► once or are they going to spit these out? Yeah, they're dropped all at once, which some people
01:54:45 ◼ ► said might have been a mistake, but you don't know. I mean, because I don't know. I guess the
01:54:52 ◼ ► idea that you could retool after people have seen a couple of episodes. But most of these
01:54:59 ◼ ► things are shot well enough in advance that it's not that easy to just go back. You know,
01:55:22 ◼ ► So these are all you know, these would have been shot even if it was even if they were releasing every weekend between now and right
01:55:28 ◼ ► You know January or whatever. Yeah, I'm curious to see how the signup thing goes, you know, because I bought a new iPhone already
01:55:35 ◼ ► So I should be getting a free. Yeah, but I'm looking at that today. I was thinking I haven't bought any fun anything
01:56:04 ◼ ► There's always more to talk about but yes, it's no there's no use talking more about Apple TV
01:56:10 ◼ ► Plus when five days from now, I just I just hope the president goes to more baseball games