0:00:00You're a letterman fan. Yes, you've been watching the end of the show sort of. Yeah,
0:00:06I watched last night and the night before. Yeah, the Bill Murray popping out of a cake.
0:00:15That was kind of strange. It was like to me, it was a real throwback to the 80s. I mean,
0:00:22that's the type of just nonsense from the the late night show in the 80s. Yeah. And I don't know,
0:00:29like some of it it almost seems like that the fact that Bill Murray was there was almost wasted
0:00:36but I guess not because so much of it is reminiscing and those and the you know the old
0:00:42videos and that kind of stuff but it was fun so we're recording on Wednesday the 20th letterman's
0:00:49final show will air actually he's probably funny I didn't even think about it he's probably recording
0:00:54it as we are. That's actually kind of, whoa, this gave me goosebumps.
0:00:59Pete: Should we hang up and go?
0:01:00[Laughter]
0:01:01Jon: It's funny, I've never gone. I'm a huge Letterman fan. Never once
0:01:07saw him live and I do kind of regret that.
0:01:10Pete I never got to see Jordan live either, so.
0:01:14Jon Yeah.
0:01:14Pete It's okay. We'll live.
0:01:16Jon Did I ever see Jordan live? I don't think I did. I don't think I did. I think I wasted all
0:01:21of those years. I almost had, I had tickets once. One time early on in the run of his show on CBS,
0:01:30so this was probably, I think about, it was probably 1998, thinking about where I lived.
0:01:37I had a roommate for a year and they did a thing where they were going to
0:01:41have like a whole week of shows where their audiences were all going to be from the same city.
0:01:49And so one night that week, the whole audience was from Philadelphia. And you know, you entered
0:01:53a contest and you did it. And my roommate and I thought, "You know what? We've never gone. We've
0:01:57always wanted to see Letterman. Let's enter this and we'll be in the Philly crowd." And we won.
0:02:01And so we got, you know, I don't know, thousands of people entered. We were one of like three,
0:02:07you know, 300 who got two seats. And all we had to do was show up for like a bus around noon,
0:02:14and they were going to bus everybody up together. And we were getting ready to go, and my roommate
0:02:21like checked his email, and there was a thing that was like, "All you have to do is click
0:02:26this button by, you know, last Friday, and you're good to go." And it was like,
0:02:32I just looked at him, I was like, "Are you freaking kidding me?" And he's like, "I'm sorry."
0:02:39So we won, but we didn't claim the tickets in time. And so I guess the idea behind it was,
0:02:45you know, they want to make sure they filled the whole theater. And so the click the thing was like,
0:02:50"Okay, you've won, but are you sure you're going to go?" And then it was like, that's all you had
0:02:54to do. But in the meantime, they filled our seats with alternates.
0:02:58Oh, well, that's a good story. Probably better than the show would have been. Maybe. I don't know.
0:03:04I've never been to any of those tapings. And I even live in New York City, and I've been here for
0:03:08now, uh, 10 years basically, and I've never gone to on it, but I, my first year in New
0:03:15York, I found some email mailing list where you sign up and you get emails inviting you
0:03:21to be in studio audiences for random stuff.
0:03:25And I've never even gone to one of those, but it's funny to see the stuff that comes
0:03:28along.
0:03:29It's, you know, weird game shows.
0:03:31And um, one day maybe I'll go to a Fallon now that he's, he's the man.
0:03:37Yeah. Or the Seth Meyers show. Or Seth, yeah. I don't know. I'm a little wistful about the
0:03:45Letterman thing. I guess I think he's right. It's like one of those things where
0:03:49I think he's right that this is the time to go. I do think he's—I think he's—I think he picked
0:03:55the right time. I think sooner would have been too soon, and I think it probably is time. But
0:04:02it's still—it's like you just—how can you not be sad if you're a fan?
0:04:05Yeah, and I wonder how much of it has to do with not just, you know, hosting the show,
0:04:11but all the other demands that being, you know, being a public figure in the media today are.
0:04:16For example, he doesn't really do anything online, he doesn't really do anything in social media,
0:04:21and I wonder how much of that gig now is that sort of stuff. Maybe it's none of it, I don't know.
0:04:26No, he's pretty clear about it. I think it was in the New York Times interview. Either that or he
0:04:30did two big interviews recently, which is unusual for him. He's, you know, usually pretty reticent.
0:04:35But he did the New York Times interview and the Rolling Stone interview, cover story really.
0:04:40I think maybe in both places it was acknowledged that the game today with the late night show
0:04:46is partly, at least partly, to make viral bits that can be separated from the rest of the show
0:04:54five minutes on YouTube and can get shared. And that his show really doesn't do that,
0:04:59and it's not really set up to do that.
0:05:02kind of the opposite of John Oliver,
0:05:04which is basically exists to feed
0:05:08the Monday Morning Blogger quota.
0:05:11- Right. - Every single site
0:05:13rushing to summarize what he said the night before.
0:05:18- That is exactly what happens with his show.
0:05:21It is so funny.
0:05:22It's like, why don't you just let people watch it?
0:05:26- Yeah.
0:05:27Well, but that is one way, you know,
0:05:31wink to let people watch it is to have them watch it on your blog with your, you know,
0:05:35your summary and commentary.
0:05:37Right.
0:05:38Hey, I really enjoyed your intimate look at your iPhone stands and I want to send you
0:05:46mine.
0:05:47You posted this weekend, Daring Fireball, your two iPhone docs and I think you'll get
0:05:55a kick out of the one that I bought in Tokyo.
0:05:57Is this for real?
0:05:58Is this for real?
0:05:59I don't wanna even say,
0:06:01(laughing)
0:06:02did you own this stock?
0:06:03- Yeah, I bought it in Tokyo.
0:06:05(laughing)
0:06:06- All right, I don't even think we should talk about it.
0:06:08I'm going to put it in the show notes right now
0:06:11as Dan's iPhone dock.
0:06:15You're all gonna have to go and load the show notes
0:06:20and see this for yourself because there's absolutely no way
0:06:24that we can do justice to it,
0:06:25unless you really wanna talk about it.
0:06:27- I'll just tell you the backstory.
0:06:28Here's what I think.
0:06:29I don't even remember.
0:06:32Uh, well, I know where I found it.
0:06:33I found it in, uh, Tokyo hands, which is the greatest.
0:06:37Uh, it's, it's kind of a mixture of a home Depot and, um, I don't know, like a
0:06:44bed bath and beyond or something like that.
0:06:46I don't know.
0:06:46It's just a great home and a hardware store in Tokyo.
0:06:51And I think it, it, I don't think it's the same company that makes the, uh,
0:06:57incredibly realistic food models that you would see outside of a Japanese restaurant where
0:07:03uh you know the each little piece of sushi looks perfect and that kind of stuff i bought those in
0:07:10the past does this thing have a charger no no no so it just props it up it's just a way to prop up
0:07:15i have a i have a six plus i don't need a charger sir uh uh anyway the year before i bought this i
0:07:24I got an iPhone 4S case that's bacon and eggs,
0:07:27and that looks even more ridiculous.
0:07:30So this cheeseburger iPhone holder is my favorite.
0:07:36I wanted to get one for the office,
0:07:38but I was worried that someone would snag it
0:07:40'cause it's just so crazy.
0:07:41- I've been meaning to write about these iPhone docs
0:07:44for a while, and it's just one of those things
0:07:45where I didn't really have a reason to, and then went at.
0:07:47So the thing is is Apple came out yesterday--
0:07:49- Right, and that was the context.
0:07:51Right, with a new lightning thing.
0:07:54And it's just been--
0:07:55I like having an iPhone dock, a charging dock, though.
0:08:01I like it.
0:08:01I like that if I'm going to have to charge my phone while I'm
0:08:04at my desk or something like that,
0:08:06why not have it on a dock?
0:08:07It's better than having it lay down.
0:08:08But over the years, it's just been like nobody
0:08:14could ever keep it straight.
0:08:16The original iPhone shipped with a dock.
0:08:19It was right there in the box.
0:08:21And it was a great dock.
0:08:22And then it didn't fit the 3G or 3GS.
0:08:25And it's like, oh, well, no.
0:08:26And then they didn't come with a dock.
0:08:28And then the iPhone 4 came out.
0:08:29And it turned out the iPhone 4 fit in the original iPhone
0:08:32dock really well.
0:08:33Even though the iPhone 4 had a sort of square bottom,
0:08:37and the original iPhone was more like the Apple Watch,
0:08:39sort of a pill-shaped, capsule-shaped thing,
0:08:42it just fit in the crevice they had for it almost perfectly.
0:08:46And the 30-pin was more than enough to keep it stable.
0:08:50So I went back to the original dock with my iPhone 4 and 4S.
0:08:54But then ever since, it's been a shit show.
0:08:57- I never had a dock until the elevation dock,
0:09:03which came, what, two weeks before the cord switched.
0:09:09So that was it for me.
0:09:10I was like, all right, I'm not buying anymore.
0:09:12- I somehow wound up with two elevation docks.
0:09:14I think I bought one, I did the Kickstarter,
0:09:16and then I think they sent me one as like,
0:09:19You know like in my role as a you know, maybe you'll link to it public figure type thing
0:09:23I don't know says I don't remember buying two but somehow I wound up with two and never used either of them because
0:09:29Exactly. They it only shipped like two it was 30 pin and it only shipped two weeks before the the first lightning phone came out
0:09:36I guess that must have been the iPhone 5
0:09:38Yep, right
0:09:40And they did have a thing where you can you can go there now even and get like a kit so you can transform it
0:09:47and from a 30 pin thing to a lightning thing,
0:09:49but I never bothered with that.
0:09:51- No, who wants to do that?
0:09:52- Well, I'm sure some people do,
0:09:54but it wasn't worth it for me.
0:09:55- No, nor I.
0:09:56- The big things for me with the dock is,
0:10:00in most cases, you wanna be able to use it one-handed.
0:10:03In other words, you don't have to put one hand on the dock
0:10:05and one hand on the phone to separate it
0:10:07without picking up the dock with the phone.
0:10:10And you want it to be able to fit.
0:10:14I like the idea.
0:10:16I mean, I waste money on everything.
0:10:19I just like the idea though of getting a dock
0:10:21and then being able to use it for maybe more than a year
0:10:24(laughs)
0:10:25just in case the iPhone shape sizes changes.
0:10:29So I like the idea of a dock that is sort of agnostic
0:10:32to the shape of the iPhone.
0:10:33- Future proof?
0:10:35- Future proof.
0:10:36- Well, it makes sense too
0:10:37because so many people use a case now
0:10:41and that's a slightly different shape
0:10:43than a phone with no case
0:10:46or there are so many different sizes.
0:10:49There's 5C, 5S, 6, 6 Plus.
0:10:54So lots of different phones to handle with one design.
0:11:01- Yeah, the new iPhone dock from Apple seems,
0:11:05I'm curious, I guess I'll buy one
0:11:07just because I'm, again, I'm really bad with money.
0:11:11I don't need it, but I'm curious about how it works,
0:11:13so I guess I'll buy one.
0:11:14because it doesn't have any kind of,
0:11:16the only thing that, it's just a lightning nubbin
0:11:19that sticks out of a flat piece of plastic.
0:11:22There is no back, there's no slot that the phone goes into.
0:11:26It's just a lightning, the lightning port itself
0:11:29is the only thing that's gonna support the phone,
0:11:32which sounds like it would be a little fragile,
0:11:34but I don't know, maybe they've figured some way
0:11:37to make it really sturdy.
0:11:38- It makes me feel less irresponsible
0:11:40for picking my phone up by its lightning cable
0:11:43all the time, which I do.
0:11:44- Yeah, do you have the problem where you,
0:11:48your lightning cables kinda wear out over time
0:11:49because of that?
0:11:51- Has not happened yet.
0:11:53In fact, the one I'm using now is a third-party one,
0:11:55and even that one has been really good, so.
0:11:59- It seems like it's tricky business designing a dock,
0:12:02because like you said, number one, future-proving it,
0:12:05you wanna go for different thicknesses
0:12:07and widths of the iPhone,
0:12:08and then you wanna go case or no case,
0:12:10and how many types of cases can you manage to support,
0:12:15et cetera.
0:12:16- And how easy do you want it to be to dock and undock it,
0:12:21whereas it seems that Lightning has its own kind of
0:12:23tension system built in, so.
0:12:27- Yeah.
0:12:27- I don't know.
0:12:29I don't use, yeah, that's why I don't use a dock.
0:12:32Just kinda plug in and flop it down
0:12:35on the table next to me.
0:12:40I have a question for you though, which is,
0:12:42why do you think they made this?
0:12:43Or if they'd had it a long time ago,
0:12:46why do you think they decided to ship it now?
0:12:49- Somebody said, and I don't know if it's right or not,
0:12:51but somebody said on Twitter that the docs over the years,
0:12:54a lot of them that Apple has,
0:12:56Apple's own first party doc for iPhone
0:12:58has often come out mid-cycle on the iPhone,
0:13:01that they didn't come out alongside the phones.
0:13:03And I don't know why that would be.
0:13:05I saw somebody else who tweeted that,
0:13:07I think it was Jeremy Horowitz,
0:13:09who's at 9to5 Mac now, that he, I guess he got one already
0:13:13and it, like he read the fine print on the box or whatever
0:13:17and it was 2014, so it must have, you know,
0:13:20they must have started assembling them months ago,
0:13:22but they didn't start selling them until now.
0:13:25I don't quite get it.
0:13:26I think the basic idea though is that for some people,
0:13:30a dock, whether you use it at your desk
0:13:32or you use it like at your bedside or you have both,
0:13:35it's, you know, it's a sensible place.
0:13:37If you're gonna charge your phone at the same place
0:13:39all the time, it makes sense to have a dock
0:13:40instead of just a cable.
0:13:42I mean, if you just have a cable,
0:13:43you definitely can't do it one-handed.
0:13:46You need two hands.
0:13:47So the one-hand ability is definitely, to me, a convenience.
0:13:51And I get my desk, like when I'm developing,
0:13:54you know, working on betas of Vesper and stuff like that,
0:13:56as a dev, I know almost all developers have some kind of dock
0:13:59so that they can have their phone in a usable,
0:14:02readable state alongside their computer.
0:14:05I have some corrections to make.
0:14:06- Uh-oh. - I should get this
0:14:07out of the way. - Let's do it.
0:14:08Actually, a lot of these are pretty old.
0:14:13Paul Kaphakis was on the show, I don't know, two months ago, and we were talking about
0:14:18aspirin and whether it was something that was thousands of years old or like a hundred
0:14:23years old.
0:14:25So aspirin, as we know, it was first produced 110 years ago in the late 1800s.
0:14:32Sort of a snake oil type thing, but it actually worked.
0:14:35But the natural form of it, which is called salicylic acid, is found in plants, i.e. the
0:14:44willow and myrtle, and has been used for thousands of years.
0:14:47So that's the source of the confusion.
0:14:49As early as 3000 B.C., the ancient Egyptians used willow bark and myrtle to reduce pain
0:14:54and fever.
0:14:56And those are some of the ingredients that were used to make aspirin starting in the
0:15:00late 1800s.
0:15:02So it's sort of a little bit of column A, a little bit of column B. I have another note
0:15:08here. I don't even remember which show it was. I think it was Merlin Mann when we were
0:15:12talking about—
0:15:13Man, these are old shows.
0:15:14Yeah, well, I forgot to look at these notes. I have these notes for all the follow-up,
0:15:18all the corrections. Really, this should be a very long list, because I make a lot of
0:15:22mistakes every episode. But when Merlin was on, we had a discussion about when to let
0:15:27our growing children watch which movies.
0:15:30And I said that, you know, "Caddyshack" came up,
0:15:33and I said, "No, of course Jonas
0:15:34"hadn't seen "Caddyshack" yet."
0:15:35And then my wife was actually listening to the show,
0:15:38and she goes, "You dummy, we let him watch "Caddyshack,"
0:15:40and I remembered, yes, we did.
0:15:41So yeah, so I let my son watch "Caddyshack"
0:15:44when he was, I think, 10.
0:15:45- I think that's when I first saw it, too.
0:15:48- That's my thinking, that was my thinking
0:15:50of letting him watch it.
0:15:52- I remember my dad, like, stood in front of the TV
0:15:54for a couple minutes during one scene.
0:15:57like, "Just look over there for a second." And it's a great movie to see. And then you watch it
0:16:03again like 50 times in college and it's a totally different movie at that point. But why not?
0:16:10Tom Bilyeu: Yeah. Again, no idea which episode this was for, but somebody—I guess we were talking
0:16:16about some of my eye problems and we were talking about that Warby Parker should make a monocle.
0:16:21ends up they do make a monocle. I'll put that in the show notes. Warby Parker does make a
0:16:27monocle. I don't know that I would recommend it. It seems to me like that's sort of taken the,
0:16:31you know, the hipster, the hipster thing a little far going with a monocle. But there you go.
0:16:39That's marketing, man.
0:16:40Warby monocle. There he goes right in the show notes.
0:16:47Joanna Stern. Joanna Stern was the great Joanna Stern was on the show a few weeks ago and we were
0:16:52talking about these both of us had turned out bought the same bluetooth headset beats
0:17:00power beats these little beats power beats or bluetooth they're meant for like you know wearing
0:17:07my exercise and stuff i'd never had bluetooth you ever had bluetooth headphones no so i'd never had
0:17:13had them before and I bought them while I was testing the watch because I wanted to
0:17:18test the--
0:17:19- And these are like the $180 ones?
0:17:21- Yeah, they're, you know, like everything from Beats are pretty expensive.
0:17:24I find I've been pretty happy with them so far.
0:17:27Pretty comfortable.
0:17:28- And these are the ones that had that little like kind of finger coming off them that holds
0:17:32in your ear?
0:17:33- Yeah, sort of.
0:17:36There's like a thing that wraps around your ear and then there's a thing that goes in
0:17:39your ear.
0:17:40- Yeah.
0:17:41But the complaint we both had was that the latency was really bad, just the Bluetooth latency.
0:17:47So like when you pause, it was like, it felt to me, I don't know what it really was, but it felt to me like a second or two goes by before the audio actually pauses.
0:17:56And then you hit play again and it's a second or two before it plays, which was like driving me nuts.
0:18:02And somebody sent in, I forget who, sorry, I don't remember, that you got to run the Beats Updater.
0:18:09There's a firmware update for these headphones you go to
0:18:12I'll put it in the show notes, but anybody who bought these things guy it never even occurred to me
0:18:17I guess it makes sense that there would be such a thing, but I've never thought of
0:18:21Headphones as having firmware that you could update
0:18:24so you run this beats updater and
0:18:27It still is not quite it
0:18:31I don't think Bluetooth can ever you know is ever gonna match the latency of hardware
0:18:36But you know like a you know a cable but it it's a it reduces the latency all the way down to what I expected
0:18:44At the outset there's like a fraction of a second where when you pause
0:18:47Until it actually pauses and there's a fraction of a second when you go to restart the audio before it actually starts playing again
0:18:52But it seems totally reasonable and way different than what it was when I opened them out of the box
0:18:57So anybody out there who buys like these beats
0:19:01Headphones if you get these Bluetooth ones and you find the latency is like insane
0:19:05like how could they do this get this updater the updater is weird too it's
0:19:09like a Mac app that you run that then goes to opens a web page in Safari and
0:19:14it's the web page that shows you the progress as it updates a thing that's
0:19:18plugged into your device by USB very strange but it worked isn't that amazing
0:19:23software update for your headphones it just never would have occurred to me to
0:19:27look how do you how do you charge them and how often do you charge them USB you
0:19:33charge them by USB there's a little micro USB thing on the bottom of the
0:19:39left earpiece and it has a rubber nub and that covers it I guess for you know
0:19:44sweat and water resistance so you just plug it in by USB so the the fact that
0:19:52Apple made that iPhone dock and and does not yet have a proper charging station
0:20:00is something that puzzles me.
0:20:02But, you know.
0:20:04- Charging station for what?
0:20:05- Well, just now I have three things I plug in
0:20:08almost every night.
0:20:09Four if you count this new MacBook.
0:20:11And now if I get wireless headphones, that's five.
0:20:13So someone's gotta do a, you know, it could be Apple.
0:20:18I don't know, someone's gotta do
0:20:20the best charging station possible.
0:20:23- So how long do they last?
0:20:25I think that they say they last like six hours.
0:20:28- All right, so that's once a week or something.
0:20:29- I've been running a lot recently,
0:20:31at the last, since the weather's gotten nicer.
0:20:35And I did have one run where my headphones conked out
0:20:38halfway through, and I was very confused.
0:20:40It just was like, it just plays like a little sad song,
0:20:43like, (imitates guitar)
0:20:45and then I guess that means we're out of juice, goodbye.
0:20:49And then you got nothing.
0:20:50So I don't know, I try to remember to charge him
0:20:54every second day or two, I don't know.
0:20:57It's hard to know.
0:20:57do get a little battery meter in your status bar in iOS. So it's like when you have them
0:21:05paired with your phone, it shows up in between your phone's battery indicator and the little
0:21:14Bluetooth icon in the status bar. There's a little vertical battery, a little tiny one.
0:21:19It's actually hard for me to see, but I can kind of get a rough picture of whether it's
0:21:23like mostly full or mostly empty. So you can see the battery on your phone of the charge
0:21:29of your headphones. It's all fiddly enough. The whole thing is fiddly enough that I now
0:21:35understand why Apple doesn't ship their own wireless headphones yet.
0:21:40Darrell Bock Yeah. But it works well with the watch?
0:21:44Dave: It did in my testing, but in real life I don't – what I really want to listen to
0:21:51do is podcasts.
0:21:52- Right.
0:21:53- And to listen to podcasts, I still need my phone,
0:21:55so I've still got my phone on my arm while I'm running.
0:21:59I have it paired with my phone 99.9% of the time.
0:22:04I did pair it to the watch while testing it
0:22:06to see if it worked, and it did work,
0:22:08but that's really only good for music
0:22:10that you stick on your watch.
0:22:12- So strange they didn't launch with podcast support,
0:22:17but priorities, I guess. - Well, it is strange.
0:22:20- Yeah, and who knows what the schedule is
0:22:23for third-party apps.
0:22:25I mean, a WatchKit app is never gonna be able to do it.
0:22:27There's no way, like Marco can't make Overcast
0:22:31store anything locally on the watch yet, right?
0:22:35It's all, WatchKit is all stuff that runs
0:22:38and stores stuff on the phone.
0:22:40So the only way that you could get podcasts on it now
0:22:42would be if you put the actual podcast episodes
0:22:45in your iTunes library and then made a playlist in iTunes.
0:22:47this sounds like having an iPod in 2002. You make a playlist and then you tell your watch,
0:22:52"That's the playlist I want to sync to." But then you're stuck managing your podcast by hand like
0:22:57an animal.
0:22:58Tom Bilyeu: Yeah, it's not worth it yet.
0:23:02Darrell Bock No. I mean, it would, in theory, be nice. I would love to go running without the
0:23:07phone and just have the watch. And I don't care about GPS, so that wouldn't bother me. But it's
0:23:12to have the podcast to listen to, I still need the phone.
0:23:14Cool. What else you got?
0:23:19Correction wise. Oh, one more thing. And this is like super nerdy. This was last week with
0:23:26David Sparks on the show and I said, it was my mistake, not his, that RTF, you know,
0:23:32the rich text format that TextEdit has long defaulted to, I think all the way back to the next
0:23:38days even before next was purchased by
0:23:42apple you know the rich text format and that's a microsoft originated format was
0:23:46sort of cross-platform
0:23:49style text
0:23:50uh... wasn't supported i was i said it still isn't supported in i was and i was
0:23:54talking about the complications that people you know you have a few
0:23:57you'd if you restore your text anything but plain text
0:24:01that long-term eventually whatever style text format you have chosen to use
0:24:06is not going to be supported anymore
0:24:09and it turns out rich text format is in i_o_s_ as of i was seven
0:24:13i was seven added it and i'll put a link in the show notes there's an and s are
0:24:17at r_t_f_ text document type
0:24:20in i_o_s_ as of i was seven
0:24:23but uh... and so it's not even that recent i guess i guess it's two years
0:24:26ago but i'd i did not know that
0:24:28what uh... anyway from i_o_s_ one through six there was no r_t_f_ support
0:24:32so i was kind of right
0:24:33What format does the notes app use?
0:24:36- That's a very good question.
0:24:39I think that it now uses HTML under the hood.
0:24:44- Interesting, 'cause I believe it does styling, right?
0:24:51You can--
0:24:52- Yeah, it didn't use to and now it does
0:24:54and I believe it's HTML.
0:24:57It's some kind of HTML under the hood
0:24:59but you're not supposed to know that.
0:25:00- Yeah, interesting.
0:25:01What does Vesper use?
0:25:03- That's plain text.
0:25:04- Oh, that's right.
0:25:06- Right, which is a very deliberate choice on our part.
0:25:09- Yeah, cool.
0:25:10- I think that's it though.
0:25:15Now I think I've cleared the deck on corrections and mistakes.
0:25:18- Speaking of those Bluetooth earbuds,
0:25:20well I remember I did go into the Apple store
0:25:23a few weeks ago and just kind of looking at the options
0:25:27that were out there in case I was gonna do
0:25:29an impulse purchase.
0:25:31and the guy there kind of showed me all the different options and that's the one that
0:25:36he recommended but even those looked a little cumbersome.
0:25:40Pete: Which ones?
0:25:42PAUL Which ones?
0:25:42PAUL The Beats ones, the ones that you have.
0:25:44PAUL Yeah. Do you know what drives me nuts about them? I know that they didn't make them,
0:25:50they're probably designed before the Beats acquisition by Apple and I know that they're
0:25:56made for anybody, they're not meant to be paired with an Apple product, they're meant to be paired
0:26:00with any product that supports Bluetooth. But the little clicky thing for plus/minus and play/pause
0:26:09and that has the microphone on it is on the left string, not the right string. And every Apple one
0:26:15ever made is on the right string. And so I still have the habit where if I go to pause it while
0:26:19I'm wearing them, I reach up with my right hand and I fish around and can't feel it.
0:26:25I've experienced the same thing these bows headphones i'm wearing now have it on the left
0:26:29Your uh, your phone pod, I guess so whatever you'd call it and it why would you do that?
0:26:34If you're a designer like I I know that you can't just say well apple did it this way
0:26:38So it's a standard but it's a de facto standard because nobody makes more headphones than apple
0:26:43I think apple's probably like the number one headphone maker in the world
0:26:46There's probably more pairs of those white earbuds out there than any other headphone in existence
0:26:52I guess in this case because there is only one chord coming off of them. These are can headphones earbuds, I guess by definition you have to have
0:26:59two chords so
0:27:02Uh, all the earbuds i've seen do it on the right
0:27:05But I don't know
0:27:08Strange
0:27:09Yeah
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0:30:34So what's going on?
0:30:35You know what I got yesterday?
0:30:36What's that?
0:30:37I got my personal Apple watch.
0:30:40- Whoa.
0:30:42- I got the one that I ordered one minute
0:30:43after they went on sale.
0:30:45Space black link bracelet.
0:30:49- How do you like it?
0:30:51- I like it a lot.
0:30:52I'm very, very happy that I picked this one.
0:30:55- What band were you wearing with the review unit mostly?
0:30:57- Mostly the link bracelet.
0:31:00- Oh, okay, I didn't know you had one.
0:31:02- So yeah, I got the watch.
0:31:04They asked me, you know, when the, you know,
0:31:07like a week before I got the review unit,
0:31:09they were, you know, they were like,
0:31:11which one do you want?
0:31:13And we're not seeding review units of the edition models.
0:31:17So it was like, you can have any one you want
0:31:19except for the edition,
0:31:19which I would not have asked for anyway.
0:31:21- Have you seen one yet in the wild?
0:31:23- I have not, not outside the store.
0:31:25- I have not either.
0:31:26- Or an Apple event.
0:31:27I've actually been thinking about writing about that,
0:31:28actually.
0:31:30Hold that thought, hold that thought.
0:31:31- All right, all right.
0:31:32And I asked for this one. I asked for I said well, okay, I'll take the space black
0:31:40Link bracelet and they said okay, and then when I got my review unit there, we couldn't give you that one
0:31:46Sorry, and so they gave me the regular link bracelet
0:31:50you know, I
0:31:52Asked why and they just gave me that Apple like we don't you know, we're not gonna tell you why and that was that
0:31:59But my guess you know just based on the shipping times is that they just were back logged production wise even with the relatively few number
0:32:06That they would need for you know review unit, but definitely for sure though