The Incomparable

279: They Were Jerk Planets


00:00:00   the incomparable number 279 December [TS]

00:00:08   [Music] [TS]

00:00:16   welcome everybody to the incomparable [TS]

00:00:18   networks continued festivity gala up [TS]

00:00:22   what what am I saying its life day [TS]

00:00:24   everybody this is nothing more than [TS]

00:00:26   everybody talking about Star Wars as [TS]

00:00:29   much as they like my name is chip [TS]

00:00:31   sudderth I am host of the two minutes [TS]

00:00:33   i'm bored podcast and the co-host of the [TS]

00:00:35   audio guide to Babylon 5 and jason has [TS]

00:00:38   graciously allowed me to warm his chair [TS]

00:00:41   before the west coast gang starts in [TS]

00:00:44   about an hour and a half at the time [TS]

00:00:46   that we record this [TS]

00:00:48   joining me to talk about a little [TS]

00:00:50   independent movie that came out this [TS]

00:00:52   week are some incomparable regulars that [TS]

00:00:56   you all know and love [TS]

00:00:58   starting with Andy and not go hello good [TS]

00:01:01   sir [TS]

00:01:02   hello I have nothing clever to say [TS]

00:01:03   because the magic of the movies is still [TS]

00:01:06   washed over me only saw it yesterday [TS]

00:01:08   Scott McNulty hello sir I've got a bad [TS]

00:01:12   feeling about this [TS]

00:01:13   yeah Tony sindelar hello sir tip you're [TS]

00:01:17   my only hope [TS]

00:01:18   Shannon sudderth hello ma'am [TS]

00:01:21   hello I and we have seen this little [TS]

00:01:26   movie and the incomparable network is [TS]

00:01:29   head-over-heels in love with it and I [TS]

00:01:33   wanted to check in before we start [TS]

00:01:35   talking about it at that i wanted to [TS]

00:01:37   talk about the links that we went to to [TS]

00:01:40   prepare for star wars the force awakens [TS]

00:01:42   how many of you were able to remain [TS]

00:01:46   blissfully spoiler-free I was absolutely [TS]

00:01:50   out came in there absolutely clean i did [TS]

00:01:52   not even see any of the trailers [TS]

00:01:53   goodness i saw a trailer or two but you [TS]

00:01:56   have some help manage to stay under the [TS]

00:02:00   radar for just about everything [TS]

00:02:03   tony i have seen that the teaser trailer [TS]

00:02:05   and I knew some of the character names [TS]

00:02:08   and casting i guess and like I knew the [TS]

00:02:10   character names from like merchandise [TS]

00:02:12   because I I felt like spoilers you could [TS]

00:02:15   you could hide from but nothing could i [TS]

00:02:17   get some merchandise so I knew like Ray [TS]

00:02:20   and and thin and that the the bad guy [TS]

00:02:23   was kylo Ren I I really knew not a lot [TS]

00:02:26   more than that [TS]

00:02:27   I i tried to pretty actively avoid [TS]

00:02:29   others and I think I've even been fed [TS]

00:02:31   but maybe not maybe I'd not digested or [TS]

00:02:34   fully eatin them but I i had got her [TS]

00:02:37   some kind of false false spoilers so i [TS]

00:02:39   think i actually maybe went in with a [TS]

00:02:41   less than zero information i went in [TS]

00:02:43   with this information [TS]

00:02:44   haha me when you do all the math so good [TS]

00:02:47   i had been told some things that did not [TS]

00:02:49   end up being true when it comes to [TS]

00:02:51   preparing to watch Star Wars movie [TS]

00:02:53   missing misinformation is the best [TS]

00:02:55   information and you even you even [TS]

00:02:57   triggered a he had like a Deadman switch [TS]

00:02:59   triggered to go while you were in the [TS]

00:03:02   theater saying haha you could you didn't [TS]

00:03:04   spoil me [TS]

00:03:05   I just I just wanted to celebrate my [TS]

00:03:07   victory ok because because it's not as [TS]

00:03:11   though I I thought for sure i get away [TS]

00:03:14   with this [TS]

00:03:14   and it's not as though that it took like [TS]

00:03:16   a small amount of effort [TS]

00:03:18   I mean it was planned out like weeks in [TS]

00:03:20   advance where I just tighten the noose [TS]

00:03:22   of information like tighter and tighter [TS]

00:03:24   with each week the week before the week [TS]

00:03:28   before I saw them but i thought i had [TS]

00:03:30   set up like a bunch of keywords that [TS]

00:03:33   were suddenly going to be muted in my [TS]

00:03:35   twitter client and so like to anything [TS]

00:03:37   anytime anywhere tweets about like Han [TS]

00:03:39   Solo or Star Wars or Leia or any of the [TS]

00:03:42   stuff i wouldn't see it had already [TS]

00:03:44   turned off images auto online exist [TS]

00:03:47   because well it's see that that was that [TS]

00:03:50   was a painful lesson because i remember [TS]

00:03:53   a time like some months ago where I'm [TS]

00:03:56   guy wake up and doing my reading my [TS]

00:03:58   morning news and I just see some texting [TS]

00:04:01   oh it turns out that the that the Kim [TS]

00:04:03   Kardashian well what do you know she has [TS]

00:04:05   a new naked picture of herself that's [TS]

00:04:07   going to be okay well i don't i just [TS]

00:04:09   don't want to see that and then of [TS]

00:04:11   course like 33 minutes later i'm on [TS]

00:04:13   twitter and without checking anything [TS]

00:04:15   just someone in the middle i subscribe [TS]

00:04:17   to like just posted the picture in their [TS]

00:04:19   twitter stream and I i had to reflect [TS]

00:04:21   upon the fact that no not seeing her [TS]

00:04:23   bare ass was in fact not a choice [TS]

00:04:25   available to me that that's what taught [TS]

00:04:28   me that if you really want to avoid [TS]

00:04:29   spoilers you also have commute pictures [TS]

00:04:31   and reenter the on and on until by that [TS]

00:04:34   by the weekend before I thought on [TS]

00:04:35   monday by the weekend of I was no longer [TS]

00:04:38   the visiting reddit or any others [TS]

00:04:40   site that aggregates things from other [TS]

00:04:42   sources and up 1 2 & 1 by the time I [TS]

00:04:45   entered the theater wearing headphones [TS]

00:04:47   with music and podcast going just in [TS]

00:04:51   case i would be around people who are [TS]

00:04:52   talking about what they had seen or what [TS]

00:04:54   they had heard and I did not take those [TS]

00:04:56   headphones off until the moment the [TS]

00:04:58   actual movie started haha Louis victor [TS]

00:05:01   so yes I did leave I did leave like a [TS]

00:05:03   blog posts and complete the look with a [TS]

00:05:05   link to that set to go like 15 minutes [TS]

00:05:07   after the movie was going to start [TS]

00:05:09   because I knew that if I smell tension [TS]

00:05:10   this at all [TS]

00:05:12   some people out there might have been [TS]

00:05:13   might have puckish Lee thought I know [TS]

00:05:15   I'll send him an email saying oh andy hi [TS]

00:05:18   we'd really like you to speak at Ted [TS]

00:05:19   next year [TS]

00:05:20   oh my god I gotta open that haha here's [TS]

00:05:23   how the movie ends like okay you're an [TS]

00:05:25   idiot you I hate you I hate life I i [TS]

00:05:27   could not make that happen so yes you [TS]

00:05:29   know as a doctor who fan I am accustomed [TS]

00:05:32   to hanging out with fans who are bound [TS]

00:05:36   and determined not to be spoiled for [TS]

00:05:39   anything in any future doctor who at [TS]

00:05:41   episode and the people who just dive [TS]

00:05:45   right in and they have to get all of the [TS]

00:05:46   spoilers i have never seen such a [TS]

00:05:49   conspiracy of silence about a movie [TS]

00:05:52   before in my life people were desperate [TS]

00:05:55   not to be spoiled not to hear anything [TS]

00:05:58   the only people that I was aware of who [TS]

00:06:00   were out to spoil worse and folks who [TS]

00:06:02   were really really unhappy about the ex [TS]

00:06:05   expanded universe no longer being cannon [TS]

00:06:07   but we really we collectively the people [TS]

00:06:11   of the planet [TS]

00:06:13   apparently really didn't want to be [TS]

00:06:15   spoiled for this movie [TS]

00:06:17   why do we care so much I think we'll [TS]

00:06:18   fuck LOL just quickly say that for [TS]

00:06:20   myself I have the Star Wars has such a [TS]

00:06:24   power over me because it's probably my [TS]

00:06:26   first real movie experience as a child [TS]

00:06:28   where I remember everything about it not [TS]

00:06:30   of course I'm sure that my mom and dad [TS]

00:06:33   took me to see a hundred one dalmatians [TS]

00:06:35   like when we release inside I know but [TS]

00:06:36   that I remember where it was [TS]

00:06:38   where was I remember the popcorn [TS]

00:06:40   remember every part of the experience [TS]

00:06:41   and I part of me just really wants to [TS]

00:06:44   relive that experience and part of that [TS]

00:06:48   is I don't want to know what's going to [TS]

00:06:50   what's going to happen just just like [TS]

00:06:51   any in the old-fashioned days [TS]

00:06:53   even movie trailers themselves had no [TS]

00:06:55   spoilers in there just really clear [TS]

00:06:58   assiduously cut to make sure that you [TS]

00:07:00   would get a sense of what the movie was [TS]

00:07:02   about but nothing that would not to wear [TS]

00:07:05   the movie was going and I've seen so [TS]

00:07:07   many movies where I've seen but by the [TS]

00:07:09   time you get to the theater you've seen [TS]

00:07:11   so many of the scenes you don't know [TS]

00:07:13   what the movie is completely about but [TS]

00:07:14   you can at least anticipate like if [TS]

00:07:16   there's if you know if you sense that [TS]

00:07:17   there's only about 20 minutes left for [TS]

00:07:19   this movie to go and like oh my god [TS]

00:07:21   wonder oh wait a minute we haven't seen [TS]

00:07:23   that scene where the three they were in [TS]

00:07:24   the camper yet and like they light a [TS]

00:07:26   cigarette ok solely I just want my brain [TS]

00:07:29   to screw me up and like take me out of [TS]

00:07:31   the movie to inventory the stuff we know [TS]

00:07:33   the stuff we've seen and so it's just so [TS]

00:07:35   cool to go in just like watching a movie [TS]

00:07:38   on turner classic movies you've never [TS]

00:07:39   heard of it it's just on and now you can [TS]

00:07:41   basically you don't know if it's a [TS]

00:07:42   comedy don't know if it's a drama in the [TS]

00:07:44   cases the this new movie I didn't know [TS]

00:07:46   who the good people were to know what [TS]

00:07:48   the bad people where I didn't over this [TS]

00:07:49   other stormtroopers on our side now are [TS]

00:07:52   there is Darth Vader still alive [TS]

00:07:54   I don't know it was just so cool to just [TS]

00:07:57   simply say I could all of my brain can [TS]

00:07:59   simply let go and let the movie wash [TS]

00:08:01   over me that was not quite so sure it's [TS]

00:08:03   one sorry i'll shut up now I think a lot [TS]

00:08:05   of nerds were chasing that feeling and [TS]

00:08:07   and you know I i assume that probably [TS]

00:08:09   for a lot of people they had these these [TS]

00:08:11   childhood memories of having seen it [TS]

00:08:12   fresh and I have to say I'm young enough [TS]

00:08:14   that i only what you know only one of [TS]

00:08:17   the original trilogies came out after I [TS]

00:08:18   was born and I don't have any memory of [TS]

00:08:21   you know seeing its star wars is this [TS]

00:08:23   thing is just kind of always been around [TS]

00:08:25   um so I don't have like a moment of you [TS]

00:08:27   know in my head of being like five and [TS]

00:08:29   finding out you know who drew Darth [TS]

00:08:31   Vader's has children or anything like [TS]

00:08:33   that but it did seem like a lot of [TS]

00:08:35   nerves were chasing that feeling of [TS]

00:08:36   wanting to like have as much of it be [TS]

00:08:38   like be fresh for them and I and you [TS]

00:08:40   know I was even a little disappointed [TS]

00:08:42   when I i did not want to see the poster [TS]

00:08:45   but the poster was getting like it was [TS]

00:08:47   everywhere on Twitter and I was not [TS]

00:08:49   smart enough like Andy and didn't have [TS]

00:08:51   images turned off so I saw a poster and [TS]

00:08:53   the poster has been holding a lightsaber [TS]

00:08:55   and it's like oh so he's a Jedi guess I [TS]

00:08:59   kind of wish I hadn't known that going [TS]

00:09:01   into the movie which then ended up not [TS]

00:09:02   actually being true it also has like a [TS]

00:09:05   death star shape thing in it now [TS]

00:09:06   like oh so this industry and I I have to [TS]

00:09:09   say I felt kind of like a little twinge [TS]

00:09:10   of sadness like knowing that I I felt [TS]

00:09:13   like those are things i would rather not [TS]

00:09:14   know I'm even though one of them not [TS]

00:09:16   true [TS]

00:09:17   well apparently the solution to avoiding [TS]

00:09:20   all these spoilers is you know to [TS]

00:09:22   basically have a job that is sucking the [TS]

00:09:24   life out of you because like I said I [TS]

00:09:25   wasn't looking to actively avoid [TS]

00:09:27   spoilers i did see the trailers and that [TS]

00:09:29   was cool with that but I was not going [TS]

00:09:33   out shopping to see merchandise i was [TS]

00:09:35   not online a huge amount of time reading [TS]

00:09:39   forums where I might see information so [TS]

00:09:42   it was yeah all fresh and clear and I'm [TS]

00:09:45   i'm glad i could have that experience [TS]

00:09:47   you know like like you guys I was 11 [TS]

00:09:49   when Star Wars first came out and we [TS]

00:09:52   know it wasn't like my first big movie [TS]

00:09:53   experience but it was one that with the [TS]

00:09:56   series with the other two movies [TS]

00:09:57   building up after it was a huge part of [TS]

00:10:00   my teenage years so i was really happy [TS]

00:10:03   to feel that again watching this one [TS]

00:10:06   Scott do you have similarly sentimental [TS]

00:10:08   feelings about the star was the star [TS]

00:10:11   wars is or or is or are you just [TS]

00:10:14   disappointed that this wasn't a star [TS]

00:10:16   trek movie [TS]

00:10:17   well I'm always disappointed when it's [TS]

00:10:20   not a star trek movie for the I I'm [TS]

00:10:23   impressed majority movies it's driven by [TS]

00:10:26   i'm gerry I've always supported me I'm [TS]

00:10:29   impressed by the the effort that people [TS]

00:10:31   went into to avoid spoilers [TS]

00:10:33   I don't have a job that's sucking the [TS]

00:10:35   life out of me i have been on the [TS]

00:10:37   internet a lot i try had no a compulsion [TS]

00:10:42   to try to avoid any spoilers and I [TS]

00:10:45   managed to not find out much about the [TS]

00:10:48   movie I saw the trailers I saw the [TS]

00:10:50   poster and i still felt absolutely [TS]

00:10:53   spoiler-free going into the movie [TS]

00:10:56   theater and and frankly I don't really [TS]

00:10:58   care about spoilers so that could be [TS]

00:10:59   another part that helped me buy you know [TS]

00:11:02   rejecting the whole notion of being [TS]

00:11:04   spoiled [TS]

00:11:05   perhaps I protected myself because I [TS]

00:11:08   feel like if I knew what was happening [TS]

00:11:11   in the movie i still would enjoy it just [TS]

00:11:12   because it's like you know reading an [TS]

00:11:14   article a synopsis of the movie is not [TS]

00:11:17   watching the movie right so if you just [TS]

00:11:18   know the plot [TS]

00:11:19   it doesn't really matter to me i can [TS]

00:11:22   understand that other people find great [TS]

00:11:24   enjoyment and being completely surprised [TS]

00:11:25   that this movie has almost the same [TS]

00:11:27   exact plot is the first Star Wars movie [TS]

00:11:29   but uh you know it's it's a you didn't [TS]

00:11:34   matter to me so i guess i'm successful [TS]

00:11:36   in by you know the only way to be [TS]

00:11:38   succeed is not to try now [TS]

00:11:40   did you to say that I don't think it is [TS]

00:11:41   but I haha i think that was Whooper [TS]

00:11:45   maybe well listen let's let's let's get [TS]

00:11:49   right into the meat of this thing and [TS]

00:11:50   let's fire off a perfunctory spoiler [TS]

00:11:53   horn because it although why would you [TS]

00:11:56   be listening to this if you didn't want [TS]

00:11:57   it [TS]

00:11:57   so here it goes [TS]

00:11:59   [Music] [TS]

00:12:03   and let's let lay the cards down on the [TS]

00:12:07   table [TS]

00:12:08   did you feel like a seven-year-old again [TS]

00:12:11   did you feel like a nine-year-old or an [TS]

00:12:12   eleven-year-old again was did this hit [TS]

00:12:15   you right in the feels [TS]

00:12:16   yeah I'd say so um actually went on the [TS]

00:12:20   on the way back from the movie i kept [TS]

00:12:22   thinking that the it pleased me get it [TS]

00:12:25   pleased me not as an eight-year-old [TS]

00:12:27   child but as someone in his forties who [TS]

00:12:31   was an eight-year-old child when he saw [TS]

00:12:33   Star Wars for the first time so it's not [TS]

00:12:36   is that I would hate to get a to be [TS]

00:12:39   watching movies today with the exact [TS]

00:12:41   same frame of reference as when i was in [TS]

00:12:45   the second or third grade but it did [TS]

00:12:48   have that same sort of thing where I'm [TS]

00:12:49   just sort of on the especially the [TS]

00:12:51   ending during the last act [TS]

00:12:53   I'm sort of at the edge of my seat and [TS]

00:12:55   sort of thinking I don't know how this [TS]

00:12:57   is going to happen and when and when and [TS]

00:13:02   when Han Solo and that's right we we [TS]

00:13:06   fired the spoiler horse we can actually [TS]

00:13:07   Han Solo's your dad what area you know [TS]

00:13:11   when when when hot and and Kyle were on [TS]

00:13:14   that walkway like I feel as though [TS]

00:13:16   they've they've made kylo into a complex [TS]

00:13:19   enough character that this could go [TS]

00:13:21   anyway and then yeah and then knowing [TS]

00:13:25   the anticipating how Chewbacca is going [TS]

00:13:27   to react to that and you been and how [TS]

00:13:28   late is going to react to that [TS]

00:13:30   yeah it and especially the ensenes with [TS]

00:13:34   Ray [TS]

00:13:34   where once again it's aight i'll a this [TS]

00:13:37   dude definitely fit the follows the [TS]

00:13:39   template of episodes of episode 4 but [TS]

00:13:42   nonetheless ray is seem to have an empty [TS]

00:13:47   path in front of her and really had no I [TS]

00:13:50   really had no idea where she was going [TS]

00:13:51   to go either [TS]

00:13:52   and so when you have two people fighting [TS]

00:13:55   like that at the end not necessarily [TS]

00:13:57   knowing what the stakes are for either [TS]

00:13:59   of them except for deriving will never [TS]

00:14:01   get off this planet [TS]

00:14:02   yeah that's exactly the sort of feelings [TS]

00:14:04   i'm looking for and I guess that even [TS]

00:14:06   today as a grownup I am looking for that [TS]

00:14:08   wonderfully baffled an enchanted feeling [TS]

00:14:11   that you get when you're eight years old [TS]

00:14:13   or even 80 years old when you're [TS]

00:14:14   watching a good movie [TS]

00:14:15   sorry to get modeling [TS]

00:14:16   here but when I think about how I want [TS]

00:14:19   to die right first first gorgeous on a [TS]

00:14:22   bridge above a bottom of this pit the [TS]

00:14:26   first that my first thought is I don't [TS]

00:14:28   wanna I don't want to go and the second [TS]

00:14:30   thought is but if i have to go i want to [TS]

00:14:32   buy it [TS]

00:14:33   flying flying ate an x-wing fighter on a [TS]

00:14:35   secret mission somewhere I mean that [TS]

00:14:38   star wars is just part and part and [TS]

00:14:43   parcel of my childhood and my soul and I [TS]

00:14:46   was a little afraid going to this movie [TS]

00:14:48   I didn't love Star Wars so much that I [TS]

00:14:51   felt betrayed by George Lucas when the [TS]

00:14:54   prequels came out I I was afraid that [TS]

00:14:59   you couldn't I couldn't I wouldn't feel [TS]

00:15:01   that again when I went into the theater [TS]

00:15:04   where any of you like or any of you [TS]

00:15:06   concerned about that or were you were [TS]

00:15:09   just saying I'm here please entertain me [TS]

00:15:12   that night I i might be I might still be [TS]

00:15:15   concerned [TS]

00:15:16   um I mean I saw episode 1 in theaters [TS]

00:15:19   twice on opening day and was convinced [TS]

00:15:22   that I liked it for months [TS]

00:15:24   what if everything I'm feeling right now [TS]

00:15:25   let's take a look inside yourself you [TS]

00:15:28   know it to be true Tony but it took it [TS]

00:15:31   took it was literally months before i [TS]

00:15:33   realized that episode was a bad movie [TS]

00:15:34   months I was young but but not that [TS]

00:15:38   young [TS]

00:15:39   I don't think we're going to have that [TS]

00:15:40   problem with this 1i just over and over [TS]

00:15:43   by my reaction is then that they got it [TS]

00:15:46   right on [TS]

00:15:47   yes it revisits the basic plot structure [TS]

00:15:50   of the first movie but it's it feels [TS]

00:15:55   like it's at the same time it's still [TS]

00:15:56   speaking to eight-year-old in us and [TS]

00:15:58   it's also speaking to the adults in us [TS]

00:16:01   much more so than the original movies [TS]

00:16:02   did [TS]

00:16:03   there's the characters are a bit more [TS]

00:16:05   complex [TS]

00:16:06   there's more subtlety there's more [TS]

00:16:09   nuanced and and I think it works for [TS]

00:16:14   audiences of all ages whether you [TS]

00:16:17   whether you grew up with the Star Wars [TS]

00:16:19   movies or whether you're young enough [TS]

00:16:21   that this is the first time you've seen [TS]

00:16:22   one in the theater on it just feels like [TS]

00:16:25   they managed to strike this really [TS]

00:16:27   really good balance overall [TS]

00:16:29   all let me narrow my eyes at a my [TS]

00:16:33   co-panelists who is also my wife and say [TS]

00:16:37   Shannon yes are you telling me that you [TS]

00:16:39   think that star wars the force awakens [TS]

00:16:41   is a better movie than the Holy trilogy [TS]

00:16:44   huh [TS]

00:16:45   um here and there yes yes I do [TS]

00:16:49   I mean the verse movies are captured [TS]

00:16:51   lightning in a bottle [TS]

00:16:53   um and you know Lucas was able to throw [TS]

00:16:56   in all of these elements from you know [TS]

00:16:58   different entertainment sectors and mix [TS]

00:17:01   them together into something that grabs [TS]

00:17:03   everybody's attention on this one [TS]

00:17:06   you know feels is following that formula [TS]

00:17:09   but there's just a bit a bit more craft [TS]

00:17:11   to it this time people you know know [TS]

00:17:14   what worked in the first movies and [TS]

00:17:16   pretty much seem to know what didn't [TS]

00:17:17   work in the prequels and have managed to [TS]

00:17:21   you know and do a very good job of [TS]

00:17:23   revisiting I think this is just it's [TS]

00:17:26   easy i think i agree completely i think [TS]

00:17:27   that there's so many parts of this that [TS]

00:17:29   were better than the Holy trilogy was [TS]

00:17:31   definitely cut from the same cloth as [TS]

00:17:32   the Holy trilogy and first for one thing [TS]

00:17:36   oh my goodness it's so good to see [TS]

00:17:38   characters that are not just white dudes [TS]

00:17:40   it's it's I I will not I will not [TS]

00:17:44   necessarily complain that a great movie [TS]

00:17:46   is not a great movie because it has no [TS]

00:17:47   diversity but my goodness when you start [TS]

00:17:50   to see good female characters and what [TS]

00:17:54   you want to give one of the when the [TS]

00:17:55   poster quality characters thin and you [TS]

00:17:57   don't decide just cast a white guy in [TS]

00:17:59   that role when you get one of the most [TS]

00:18:02   someone who clearly seems to being be [TS]

00:18:05   set up as one of the Empire's like [TS]

00:18:07   toughest heavies and the first time this [TS]

00:18:10   character speaks in this in the silver [TS]

00:18:12   Centurion of stormtrooper armor and like [TS]

00:18:16   wow that was an odd acting choice that [TS]

00:18:18   this actor has made to have this [TS]

00:18:20   high-pitched sort of like that oh no [TS]

00:18:23   it's actually there's a woman in there [TS]

00:18:24   and I know that talk about the movie for [TS]

00:18:27   one second in the most positive way [TS]

00:18:28   because it's like of course like if you [TS]

00:18:31   put that info if a woman is wearing that [TS]

00:18:33   armor they're just they tailor it a [TS]

00:18:34   little bit differently but still woman [TS]

00:18:36   the armor you're just so used to like [TS]

00:18:38   the seventies and the 80 [TS]

00:18:39   even the nineties of mentality of [TS]

00:18:42   designing a costume like that obviously [TS]

00:18:43   the store if a female stormtrooper armor [TS]

00:18:45   is gonna have like molded-in breasts [TS]

00:18:47   no it's not it's just it's gonna be [TS]

00:18:50   storm trooper Robert but yeah the only [TS]

00:18:52   did I will say that the one thing that I [TS]

00:18:55   wish that they it's does another thing [TS]

00:18:57   that would have stolen from the original [TS]

00:18:59   trilogy [TS]

00:19:00   I wish that they had given me more time [TS]

00:19:02   to learn about these characters before [TS]

00:19:04   they got thrown into the soup [TS]

00:19:06   there are so many times where I don't [TS]

00:19:08   really know we get a long introduction [TS]

00:19:10   to Ray but we don't really know [TS]

00:19:13   whoo-hoo Finn is we don't really we got [TS]

00:19:16   a little bit of an introduction to [TS]

00:19:17   offend but now we've got all these other [TS]

00:19:19   characters like like Poe which I feel [TS]

00:19:23   like I'm supposed to think he's a lot [TS]

00:19:25   more interesting then I really think he [TS]

00:19:28   is [TS]

00:19:28   that's because I don't know what brought [TS]

00:19:30   him there [TS]

00:19:31   I love the lazy pace of the whole first [TS]

00:19:34   act of love episode 4 where they're [TS]

00:19:37   going to spend so much time on Tatooine [TS]

00:19:39   that gives us so much time to learn [TS]

00:19:41   about Luke's so much time to learn about [TS]

00:19:42   Ben and on that by and even and even [TS]

00:19:45   after the everybody like leaves Tatooine [TS]

00:19:47   they got they go to light speed X they [TS]

00:19:50   escaped and now they've got a long time [TS]

00:19:52   to do scenes inside the ship inside the [TS]

00:19:54   million falcon in which once again we're [TS]

00:19:56   just learning how do they when they do [TS]

00:19:58   when there's not a whole lot of action [TS]

00:19:59   when they do when they're just having [TS]

00:20:00   idle conversation that's the whole [TS]

00:20:02   that's the only thing that I really [TS]

00:20:03   missed out of this movie but not enough [TS]

00:20:05   to do to doing it for as a mistake [TS]

00:20:07   Andy that was a thoughtful criticism but [TS]

00:20:10   we're here for the gushing and the [TS]

00:20:12   mindless agile ation so I'm going to [TS]

00:20:14   turn it over to start my god oh my god [TS]

00:20:16   like when when hot spit and what was the [TS]

00:20:18   thing that I was gonna be disappointed [TS]

00:20:20   by is if they didn't have Han Solo be [TS]

00:20:22   hot [TS]

00:20:23   effing so lone god dammit he was Han [TS]

00:20:26   effing solo he wasn't like jet retired [TS]

00:20:29   general solo whose experiences with that [TS]

00:20:32   adventure long time ago had left him in [TS]

00:20:34   a more like religious and content [TS]

00:20:35   contemplatively mood that he never [TS]

00:20:37   mastered the force but he began to [TS]

00:20:38   follow the no no he's still a guy I'm [TS]

00:20:41   I'm afraid of captain and i smuggle [TS]

00:20:43   stuff for people who don't want to [TS]

00:20:45   bother with paperwork and i'm going to [TS]

00:20:47   talk myself out of situations and i'm [TS]

00:20:49   always going to be the coolest guy in [TS]

00:20:50   the room [TS]

00:20:51   x factor of 40 ok ok and when i'm in my [TS]

00:20:54   seventies i'm going to the coolest guy [TS]

00:20:56   I'm gonna have an awesome jacket island [TS]

00:20:59   down big deal it's time for Scott [TS]

00:21:02   McNulty gosh [TS]

00:21:03   Scott can you gosh about this movie oh [TS]

00:21:06   you say I could gush about many things [TS]

00:21:07   haha no I thought this was so I know [TS]

00:21:11   people i am a Star Trek fan that might [TS]

00:21:14   be come as a shock to some people that [TS]

00:21:16   doesn't mean that i'm also not a starch [TS]

00:21:18   star wars fan i enjoy Star Wars and you [TS]

00:21:21   like both kinds of music [TS]

00:21:22   country-and-western exactly i like Star [TS]

00:21:24   Trek better but hike star waters good [TS]

00:21:29   too [TS]

00:21:29   so much so that i've forgotten speaking [TS]

00:21:33   ish [TS]

00:21:34   yeah so it's interesting because JJ [TS]

00:21:37   Abrams obviously hiru he rebooted Star [TS]

00:21:39   Trek and he's doing Star Wars right but [TS]

00:21:43   it's not a reboot [TS]

00:21:44   so I feel like he kind of had a slightly [TS]

00:21:47   easier job it's not easy by any means [TS]

00:21:50   continuing the story of the original [TS]

00:21:53   trilogy than he did with Star Trek where [TS]

00:21:55   he's rebooting it telling the origin [TS]

00:21:57   story basically with new actors and [TS]

00:21:59   starting the whole universe / there's a [TS]

00:22:01   lot of baggage there there's a lot of [TS]

00:22:03   baggage and star wars as well right [TS]

00:22:04   so high expectations for either one and [TS]

00:22:07   I think he meant it for Star Wars I [TS]

00:22:10   think you did a great job i enjoy the [TS]

00:22:12   movie it was a lot of fun [TS]

00:22:14   I have some questions about the [TS]

00:22:17   economics of this universe and how our [TS]

00:22:22   trade negotiations [TS]

00:22:23   well but I was a good confused about [TS]

00:22:26   what the Republic was unions yeah we're [TS]

00:22:29   only on the ride home [TS]

00:22:31   it's like I don't mean it and some of [TS]

00:22:33   that is the baggage of I was heavily [TS]

00:22:35   invested in like the Expanded Universe [TS]

00:22:37   stuff and so I've read you know dozens [TS]

00:22:40   of books about what things are like in [TS]

00:22:42   the galaxy after Return of the Jedi you [TS]

00:22:43   know years 1 through 30 out and they [TS]

00:22:47   throw all that away which is fine [TS]

00:22:49   making movies that had to fit into that [TS]

00:22:51   would probably be a recipe for disaster [TS]

00:22:53   though there somewhere to feel very very [TS]

00:22:55   strongly about the head [TS]

00:22:57   don't write to me write to someone else [TS]

00:22:58   um [TS]

00:22:59   but it was a little bit like I don't [TS]

00:23:02   really go with get what's going on [TS]

00:23:04   what's the role of the right there is a [TS]

00:23:05   resistance and a republic but not a [TS]

00:23:08   rebellion anymore with the resistance [TS]

00:23:09   and and you know and i have since kind [TS]

00:23:11   of done the the background reading on [TS]

00:23:14   that but it is unfortunate that know the [TS]

00:23:16   answers to those questions are in the [TS]

00:23:17   movie that was my one like thing that [TS]

00:23:19   you know I didn't love that i'm up and I [TS]

00:23:22   thought about that on the ride home i [TS]

00:23:23   love i reminded me of how good an [TS]

00:23:25   efficient that opening crawl is not just [TS]

00:23:27   an iconic thing but didn't get it allows [TS]

00:23:29   them to just drops right into the movie [TS]

00:23:31   we're just let here's here's what's [TS]

00:23:33   happening no one knows her Luke [TS]

00:23:34   Skywalker is Leia is still around but [TS]

00:23:36   she's a general and there's in there [TS]

00:23:39   there's a there's a reason there's a [TS]

00:23:40   fight between A&B and they just sent [TS]

00:23:42   this guy to go get something important [TS]

00:23:44   he's really awesome even though you've [TS]

00:23:46   never heard of [TS]

00:23:46   I'm like okay I'm with that last time is [TS]

00:23:48   it hasn't already five minutes of boring [TS]

00:23:51   expositions just completely out the door [TS]

00:23:53   and unnecessary as it especially it [TS]

00:23:54   works well proposed it's like we're [TS]

00:23:56   gonna see a little bit of Po and then [TS]

00:23:57   he's gonna go away for a long time he's [TS]

00:23:58   gonna come back later and we don't [TS]

00:23:59   really have time to show you how awesome [TS]

00:24:00   he is we just need you to know and like [TS]

00:24:02   content can be with us and I thought it [TS]

00:24:04   was I thought the the kraal was [TS]

00:24:06   effective but it wasn't a and B it was a [TS]

00:24:08   B and C and that's where i was confused [TS]

00:24:10   right because a is the Republic be is [TS]

00:24:13   the resistance and then there is a the [TS]

00:24:15   first order so i assume and I could be [TS]

00:24:18   wrong here that the first order is one [TS]

00:24:20   part of the galaxy the Republic's [TS]

00:24:22   another part of the galaxy and the [TS]

00:24:23   Republic is kind of funding like the [TS]

00:24:26   iran-contra think the resistance for the [TS]

00:24:29   first order i guess i don't have that [TS]

00:24:31   that's always that's always been the [TS]

00:24:32   problem it's like the the thing about [TS]

00:24:34   Star Wars is that I think that every [TS]

00:24:37   work of fiction can get away with [TS]

00:24:40   anything so long as it follows the rules [TS]

00:24:42   that it itself setup and I think the [TS]

00:24:44   original trilogy set up that we're not [TS]

00:24:47   we're not telling you that it's [TS]

00:24:49   important to understand what the [TS]

00:24:50   political structure the galaxy is like [TS]

00:24:51   we there's this thing called the Empire [TS]

00:24:53   do they control the entire galaxy or [TS]

00:24:55   just the parts of the galaxy where the [TS]

00:24:57   story is taking places are other other [TS]

00:24:59   empires other democracies outside it [TS]

00:25:01   this is not at this is this is not the [TS]

00:25:03   the Holy trilogy is not a story that [TS]

00:25:05   asks you to ask that question i think [TS]

00:25:07   that the this new movie does the same [TS]

00:25:10   thing i was confused too because it did [TS]

00:25:12   make me one [TS]

00:25:13   think so when Anakin killed the Emperor [TS]

00:25:17   at the end of Return of the Jedi does [TS]

00:25:20   that so that wasn't the head guy at all [TS]

00:25:23   that was just the guy holding the office [TS]

00:25:25   that there was someone else who could [TS]

00:25:26   come in and substitute was it was he [TS]

00:25:28   training his own replacement while all [TS]

00:25:30   this was going on and if so what it was [TS]

00:25:33   did he intend to like give this other [TS]

00:25:35   guy that we're seeing is played by andy [TS]

00:25:36   serkis the promotion / Vader and he [TS]

00:25:39   never attended was either Vader had [TS]

00:25:41   already hit the glass ceiling [TS]

00:25:42   yes it's not confusing stuff i was able [TS]

00:25:44   to put it out of my mind after a [TS]

00:25:45   question because i don't think it was a [TS]

00:25:47   question that this movie was saying [TS]

00:25:49   something that was worth thinking about [TS]

00:25:52   it's kind of an interesting take on [TS]

00:25:53   unlike war 2i mean you know in the again [TS]

00:25:57   in the stuff that no longer counts it's [TS]

00:25:58   like return of the jedi happens that's [TS]

00:26:00   the big war and we win and then like [TS]

00:26:02   they sort stuff out afterwards and like [TS]

00:26:04   you know basically like hot and like I [TS]

00:26:06   have to like sneak away on vacation from [TS]

00:26:08   their legitimate boring jobs to have [TS]

00:26:10   adventures where is like in this version [TS]

00:26:12   it's like no there's still a war there's [TS]

00:26:14   always generates on later but like it's [TS]

00:26:16   add it in some ways it's kind of sad [TS]

00:26:17   that like the characters we love our [TS]

00:26:19   like like you know later as a general [TS]

00:26:22   now but she's still like camping out in [TS]

00:26:23   the base with the you know the [TS]

00:26:25   camouflage nets and stuff and it's like [TS]

00:26:27   wow you know the the version of stars i [TS]

00:26:30   thought it's like I thought you would be [TS]

00:26:31   wearing nice clothes and running [TS]

00:26:32   everything and everybody just be doing [TS]

00:26:33   what you said because like you won the [TS]

00:26:35   war it's like no war is not done and I [TS]

00:26:37   guess that's new that's how Wars go but [TS]

00:26:39   that's rough for your escapism right [TS]

00:26:41   there cute droids though [TS]

00:26:42   yeah we do want to see I i was when i [TS]

00:26:46   was walking and thinking about what what [TS]

00:26:47   what I would like to see this doesn't [TS]

00:26:49   mean that i would be that this would be [TS]

00:26:51   the best choice for anybody but it's [TS]

00:26:53   like yeah you were you you leave we left [TS]

00:26:57   these characters in the early eighties [TS]

00:26:59   thinking very highly of them and we want [TS]

00:27:02   these people to be happy and I wanted to [TS]

00:27:04   say i would have been really upset if [TS]

00:27:06   han and Leia were at the worry were [TS]

00:27:09   enemies in any way and I would hope that [TS]

00:27:13   Leia is now the president of the New [TS]

00:27:16   Republic or at least some sort of senior [TS]

00:27:19   official late like you said you want to [TS]

00:27:21   see or she has at least a comfortable [TS]

00:27:23   house she's in her sixties now she [TS]

00:27:26   doesn't have to wear a poncho and be [TS]

00:27:29   rained on and and everyone stand in [TS]

00:27:31   front of back illuminated plexiglass [TS]

00:27:33   tactical displays she's the person who [TS]

00:27:35   goes out to try to create the big plans [TS]

00:27:37   and solve the problems and prevent the [TS]

00:27:39   war not the one who has to fight the war [TS]

00:27:40   so it is a little bit disappointing but [TS]

00:27:42   nonetheless that is to me come back to [TS]

00:27:45   something that I like I'm saying about [TS]

00:27:47   the Han Solo console was still han Solo [TS]

00:27:50   leia was still the layout that I was [TS]

00:27:52   that I I grew to love because one of the [TS]

00:27:56   things that I was kind of afraid of was [TS]

00:27:58   that they do this really we seem to be [TS]

00:28:00   an obvious move saying well if if Lucas [TS]

00:28:03   of is a Jedi then by now lay is a Jedi [TS]

00:28:05   to you know she is she [TS]

00:28:08   i I don't I don't doubt that she could [TS]

00:28:09   become a Jedi but I if I know this is [TS]

00:28:12   that my definition of this character is [TS]

00:28:13   that she feels as though she can fight [TS]

00:28:15   she said she's so effective and so [TS]

00:28:17   important in the way that she fights [TS]

00:28:18   that she can't take a year off to do [TS]

00:28:20   training and even when she if she did [TS]

00:28:23   training her most effective move is not [TS]

00:28:25   going to be holding a lightsaber and [TS]

00:28:27   fighting one guy it's going to be [TS]

00:28:29   commanding an army and fighting a half a [TS]

00:28:31   million guys or people I've got Marvel [TS]

00:28:34   Comics syndrome oh I'm so sorry I want [TS]

00:28:36   everything to have an explanation [TS]

00:28:39   there's an ongoing for that now it's [TS]

00:28:40   topical I want people to care so much [TS]

00:28:42   about explanations i want Pablo Hidalgo [TS]

00:28:45   from the Lucasfilm study story group to [TS]

00:28:48   send out no prices that's the kind of [TS]

00:28:51   that that's the kind of nerd gene that [TS]

00:28:53   I've got so when I go when I go into [TS]

00:28:57   this movie and I see the recap of the [TS]

00:29:04   trench the trench fight i see a big [TS]

00:29:08   second death star kind of thing I see a [TS]

00:29:11   bolt of energy coming from the death [TS]

00:29:14   from the from Starkiller base that blows [TS]

00:29:18   up planets that you can see from the [TS]

00:29:21   planet that the resistance bases on I [TS]

00:29:26   want everything to make sense and it [TS]

00:29:28   doesn't quite do it for me and I get [TS]

00:29:31   kind of agitated Pablo Hidalgo the [TS]

00:29:34   aforementioned guy from the story group [TS]

00:29:35   was asked on Twitter today [TS]

00:29:38   about how long it takes to get from [TS]

00:29:41   planet to planet and whether what makes [TS]

00:29:43   sense and his answer is ships in the [TS]

00:29:45   star wars universe travel at the speed [TS]

00:29:47   of plot [TS]

00:29:48   yes and it yourself it's just a show i [TS]

00:29:52   could I should really just relax yeah [TS]

00:29:54   and that is why the second time I saw [TS]

00:29:56   this movie I liked it a whole lot better [TS]

00:29:58   than the first because I stopped asking [TS]

00:30:01   all of these questions of it and i'm [TS]

00:30:04   curious if the those of you who have [TS]

00:30:06   seen it more than once [TS]

00:30:07   what do you think did its it better the [TS]

00:30:09   second time I think it did for me the [TS]

00:30:12   first time I had two major distractions [TS]

00:30:16   are the first one was every time they [TS]

00:30:18   did a call back or a line quote or a [TS]

00:30:22   plot point that mirrored a new hope I [TS]

00:30:25   would sort of feel like I had to not my [TS]

00:30:26   head it's like okay yeah they did that [TS]

00:30:28   but not necessarily thinking yeah your [TS]

00:30:30   neighbor just noticing it quite a bit [TS]

00:30:33   the other distraction was our [TS]

00:30:34   thirteen-year-old sitting on the other [TS]

00:30:36   side of me you know constantly grabbing [TS]

00:30:38   my hand or going screaming in my ear and [TS]

00:30:41   you know that just enjoying it so [TS]

00:30:43   thoroughly so this time since it was [TS]

00:30:46   just the two of us i was able to you [TS]

00:30:48   know focus a little bit better and just [TS]

00:30:51   ride the story a bit more easily this [TS]

00:30:53   time around and be like you know yeah [TS]

00:30:56   they did do a lot of retreads but [TS]

00:30:58   they've done interesting things you know [TS]

00:31:00   with those retreads or beyond those [TS]

00:31:03   retreads that had made it work for me [TS]

00:31:07   yeah I felt as though and this this [TS]

00:31:10   might be the afterglow of seeing another [TS]

00:31:13   another star wars movie have really [TS]

00:31:15   enjoyed I felt as though in retrospect [TS]

00:31:17   that there was so much that was familiar [TS]

00:31:19   of course I'm willing to wait until the [TS]

00:31:23   second movie that is in the next movie [TS]

00:31:25   in the chain to decide if it was a bad [TS]

00:31:28   thing or not because I could I could see [TS]

00:31:30   them making a conscious choice that this [TS]

00:31:32   is this is this isn't a prequel this is [TS]

00:31:35   the next part of the story that ended in [TS]

00:31:37   1982 1983 so it has to be of that place [TS]

00:31:41   and of that time and given that we're [TS]

00:31:44   going to be getting a lot of people who [TS]

00:31:45   saw that movie as kids as well as a lot [TS]

00:31:47   of brand-new fans [TS]

00:31:49   what better way to get into this [TS]

00:31:51   21 movie every year sort of schedule [TS]

00:31:53   then make a movie that sort of half the [TS]

00:31:56   original and half teeing things up for [TS]

00:31:59   the next part of the story so if they if [TS]

00:32:02   then if the next one involves road ran [TS]

00:32:06   like having his hand cut off and being [TS]

00:32:07   told that Han Solo is not his father [TS]

00:32:09   then I think that we can say that here [TS]

00:32:11   and there is darkness not gonna run had [TS]

00:32:13   not a little heavy-handed get it out you [TS]

00:32:18   know everybody in this conversation a [TS]

00:32:19   dollar for that part i'm not blaming you [TS]

00:32:21   for it but it was worth it some tangible [TS]

00:32:23   extra gland that big yet so it's i was [TS]

00:32:27   able to forget it was pretty heavy [TS]

00:32:29   that's at the start but I thought that [TS]

00:32:32   they sort of loosened up near the end we [TS]

00:32:35   started the the second life it's it's a [TS]

00:32:38   5x structure then that would mean that [TS]

00:32:40   the last 2 X what I thought were more of [TS]

00:32:42   now we now that we're we've reestablish [TS]

00:32:45   the the the sky in the ground in the [TS]

00:32:47   atmosphere of this movie movie series [TS]

00:32:49   we're going to now be able to move this [TS]

00:32:51   vehicle into new territory it would it [TS]

00:32:54   would it would have sucked if we did not [TS]

00:32:55   get to see one last grand han solo [TS]

00:32:59   adventure [TS]

00:32:59   it would have been it would have sucked [TS]

00:33:00   if I got a brand-new totally brand new [TS]

00:33:03   movie with totally brand new characters [TS]

00:33:04   and at the end well [TS]

00:33:06   oh my god are you heart soul and that [TS]

00:33:08   must make me make you layout that's [TS]

00:33:10   right you know what we're old and we [TS]

00:33:13   can't fight the fights anymore but you [TS]

00:33:14   know what I've got a feeling that the [TS]

00:33:16   galaxy is in pretty good hands now [TS]

00:33:19   fuck yes you know you want to see a real [TS]

00:33:21   these these people really being who they [TS]

00:33:24   are [TS]

00:33:24   yeah I was surprised is sitting in the [TS]

00:33:27   theater is like we're getting a lot of [TS]

00:33:28   Han Solo and I was like oh I I think I [TS]

00:33:31   know what why this because it's gonna be [TS]

00:33:33   your your last big doses but you know I [TS]

00:33:35   mean that was fine i thought it was it [TS]

00:33:37   was it was great to see him and it was [TS]

00:33:38   fun I and yeah you know i mean i've been [TS]

00:33:41   reading a ton of reviews and you nerds [TS]

00:33:43   are finding all these things to hate [TS]

00:33:45   about it and you know those are things i [TS]

00:33:47   mean i don't know it is some of them are [TS]

00:33:50   interesting and some of them are awful [TS]

00:33:51   but a lot of them are not things that I [TS]

00:33:53   experienced sitting in the same movie so [TS]

00:33:55   i think that's that's probably more [TS]

00:33:57   about some of them than it was about the [TS]

00:33:59   movie but I mean it's hard i think this [TS]

00:34:02   there's a lot in here that that [TS]

00:34:04   I wanted to establish connections to the [TS]

00:34:07   original trilogy and some people are are [TS]

00:34:08   off put by that but I feel like that [TS]

00:34:11   that was you know JJ Abrams reaction to [TS]

00:34:13   what people wanted because because the [TS]

00:34:15   prequels did not feel they felt like [TS]

00:34:17   this very different thing and I mean I [TS]

00:34:19   think for better or worse that was what [TS]

00:34:20   George Lucas wanted to do it like this [TS]

00:34:22   is you know setting a whole different [TS]

00:34:23   era of the world that the universe is [TS]

00:34:25   different than and my ideas about what [TS]

00:34:27   is fun and interesting maybe different [TS]

00:34:28   than what your hideous horrible [TS]

00:34:30   that's fine just think people in my [TS]

00:34:32   movies and you're gonna see me in anyway [TS]

00:34:33   and so there's a lot of like reorienting [TS]

00:34:36   here which does make me excited and very [TS]

00:34:39   interesting to see like well where do we [TS]

00:34:40   go from here right and and do can we [TS]

00:34:42   move a little bit away from the number [TS]

00:34:45   of lines that have to be you know [TS]

00:34:46   callbacks entomologist of things well [TS]

00:34:48   Lucas in the prequels said his and my [TS]

00:34:52   marvel comics syndrome [TS]

00:34:54   you know he's eating he's just he's just [TS]

00:34:56   laying all the groundwork he's [TS]

00:34:58   explaining everything that happened up [TS]

00:35:00   to a certain point this is entirely this [TS]

00:35:02   is entirely new and i think the trip the [TS]

00:35:05   prequels were about world-building and I [TS]

00:35:07   guess that what they were a cautionary a [TS]

00:35:09   cautionary tale about what happens when [TS]

00:35:11   world-building becomes too much I've got [TS]

00:35:14   a question for you Scott [TS]

00:35:16   yeah and uh aren't you did you did you [TS]

00:35:21   like this movie I did like this movie [TS]

00:35:24   and I'm excited to see the next movie [TS]

00:35:27   I i had so i I couldn't stop myself only [TS]

00:35:29   seen it once so I should admit that so [TS]

00:35:32   perhaps when I see it again i can see [TS]

00:35:34   your opinion is clearly invalid then [TS]

00:35:35   it's true I can't stop thinking about [TS]

00:35:37   how the first order [TS]

00:35:38   where did how did they make all these [TS]

00:35:39   stormtrooper outfits when they just [TS]

00:35:41   recycle the Empire stormtrooper outfit [TS]

00:35:43   would that be cheaper [TS]

00:35:44   these are the things i was thinking [TS]

00:35:46   about as i was watching the movie i'm [TS]

00:35:48   sure they spending chrome plating that [TS]

00:35:49   one awesome data storage arrested yeah [TS]

00:35:51   exactly which was very awesome looking [TS]

00:35:54   for like the the two minutes that it was [TS]

00:35:56   in the movie [TS]

00:35:57   hopefully we'll see more of that [TS]

00:35:58   character yeah I thought your is part of [TS]

00:36:01   my you know remaining spoiler-free thing [TS]

00:36:03   was I didn't realize that Han Solo would [TS]

00:36:05   be such a big part of it and I didn't [TS]

00:36:07   realize that Ray was basically the main [TS]

00:36:09   character when looking at the posters [TS]

00:36:11   and things and the trailers you surely [TS]

00:36:13   couldn't tell that from the merchandise [TS]

00:36:15   and [TS]

00:36:15   that I had no idea and I think she's a [TS]

00:36:17   great character so I was quite pleased [TS]

00:36:19   with that but it was just as surprised [TS]

00:36:20   as I go [TS]

00:36:20   this is the person that this move these [TS]

00:36:23   this trilogy is going to be about that's [TS]

00:36:25   cool i have no idea and I don't like her [TS]

00:36:28   I liked Finn I like to all the [TS]

00:36:30   characters BBH super cute i like the [TS]

00:36:34   moment when bb-8 it r2d2 that was a kind [TS]

00:36:37   of cute i asked i talked about what we [TS]

00:36:39   were talking about this [TS]

00:36:40   my wife and I and she said that TBH [TS]

00:36:42   feels like a little baby that r2d2 head [TS]

00:36:45   which I thought were you droids [TS]

00:36:51   I assume that's how Troy's new joys come [TS]

00:36:53   from they reproduce it somehow i assume [TS]

00:36:56   i don't know other droids in the star [TS]

00:36:58   wars universe is a troubling topic [TS]

00:37:00   because they're basically they're [TS]

00:37:02   intelligent but their slaves and we're [TS]

00:37:04   okay with that [TS]

00:37:05   I don't have healthy without see did you [TS]

00:37:07   notice that that something kind of threw [TS]

00:37:09   me when when she meets bb-8 for the [TS]

00:37:12   first time as though he's just some [TS]

00:37:15   human traveler who almost got killed by [TS]

00:37:18   this scavenger and just saying oh well [TS]

00:37:20   town is that way go on and go ahead [TS]

00:37:23   whereas everything in the original [TS]

00:37:24   trilogy simply said that we they are [TS]

00:37:26   really really personable appliances that [TS]

00:37:29   we could just simply put a bolt on them [TS]

00:37:30   that makes them not want to run away or [TS]

00:37:32   bake some makes it makes them feel pain [TS]

00:37:35   if they run away the one time in this [TS]

00:37:37   movie when somebody referred to PO as [TS]

00:37:40   BBH master that kind of threw me [TS]

00:37:42   well enhance knowledge is causing ball [TS]

00:37:45   right it's clear that only eats a [TS]

00:37:46   generational issue where is goldenrod [TS]

00:37:49   ball there you go modern opinions about [TS]

00:37:51   droids and rights are different than [TS]

00:37:53   what they were in Hansel this generation [TS]

00:37:55   and I assume there will be a movie about [TS]

00:37:56   that I i wish but that seems unnecessary [TS]

00:38:01   I just I just don't want fanfiction to [TS]

00:38:04   creep into the actual movies i don't i [TS]

00:38:06   don't it's ok to write fan fiction but [TS]

00:38:08   hey remember like in the in the in the [TS]

00:38:11   special edition of the cantina scene [TS]

00:38:14   there was somebody soon as I kind of [TS]

00:38:16   slumped over next to the cantina band [TS]

00:38:18   what was his story my answer is very [TS]

00:38:21   precious i don't i don't really care i [TS]

00:38:23   don't think there was any idea you're [TS]

00:38:24   too late there there's so many [TS]

00:38:26   yeah exactly hinson pushes that you know [TS]

00:38:29   that that Finn and po could become an [TS]

00:38:31   item it's just like that the subtext [TS]

00:38:33   could go either way I think we're too [TS]

00:38:35   late but it really is it's like it's [TS]

00:38:38   like when there's a gold filled ok and [TS]

00:38:41   first discovered you just pick up gold [TS]

00:38:43   nuggets off the ground ok that's fine [TS]

00:38:44   and then all the Nuggets have picked up [TS]

00:38:47   off the ground been found and so now you [TS]

00:38:48   can pan for gold in the stream ok but [TS]

00:38:50   now the streams panda and now you have [TS]

00:38:52   to go and like within with bulldozers [TS]

00:38:54   and pulled down hills and crazed down [TS]

00:38:57   trees and for me that third step is what [TS]

00:38:59   happens when the people who grew up [TS]

00:39:02   being fans of this series start to write [TS]

00:39:04   the books in the comic books saying that [TS]

00:39:06   you know but remember the time where [TS]

00:39:07   this part kept failing [TS]

00:39:09   how about a story about the The the [TS]

00:39:11   player the the shipyard that made that [TS]

00:39:13   that that part that made a defective [TS]

00:39:16   Iran does not ride okay okay i think i [TS]

00:39:19   read that segment of the Martian [TS]

00:39:21   actually have fans with fans will strip [TS]

00:39:23   it down to its its its essential part [TS]

00:39:25   they use all all parts of the work it's [TS]

00:39:27   like the Bison they are you know they'll [TS]

00:39:29   strip mine it down till there's nothing [TS]

00:39:30   left but we live in a world right where [TS]

00:39:34   there's going to be a star wars movie [TS]

00:39:35   every year and have a rest of our lives [TS]

00:39:39   I i want to be excited about that but [TS]

00:39:41   that does blow and like I i mean i've [TS]

00:39:44   seen all the Marvel movies in theaters [TS]

00:39:46   and I i guess i will just get like [TS]

00:39:47   that's just the thing i'm going to do [TS]

00:39:49   for the rest of my life now is and that [TS]

00:39:51   feels a little nervous but I'm excited [TS]

00:39:54   about the idea of it but the but yeah [TS]

00:39:56   what am i signing up for here I was [TS]

00:39:59   never super into the X the Expanded [TS]

00:40:02   Universe but I remember when the timothy [TS]

00:40:05   zahn trilogy first came out and how [TS]

00:40:08   blown i was blown away i was by that [TS]

00:40:10   color against of the high water mark for [TS]

00:40:12   quality [TS]

00:40:13   yeah i mean that universe I i am reading [TS]

00:40:15   new Star Wars and it feels wheel [TS]

00:40:19   you know I mean I consume thousands of [TS]

00:40:21   pages of I mean this might be harsh but [TS]

00:40:24   I'm gonna say substandard quality [TS]

00:40:26   writing but yeah that's like the little [TS]

00:40:28   activity come on this was the way to go [TS]

00:40:30   I didn't use the word garbage but it was [TS]

00:40:32   not very you know because it was like I [TS]

00:40:34   need more star wars and this is this is [TS]

00:40:36   the only way and get I'll take just put [TS]

00:40:38   just jamming my beans that's absolutely [TS]

00:40:40   yeah tell me about a planet where [TS]

00:40:41   they're out where there's a ton of [TS]

00:40:42   rancors let's go [TS]

00:40:43   I don't care what has been cut with I [TS]

00:40:45   don't care that was actually a warning [TS]

00:40:46   on this is that police are finding out [TS]

00:40:47   that people are actually having their [TS]

00:40:49   eyeballs popped up if they take this [TS]

00:40:51   drug you really are that hard up for new [TS]

00:40:53   scag so we're so we're sort of on the [TS]

00:40:57   verge of something else like that [TS]

00:40:59   because we're going to be getting we're [TS]

00:41:02   going to be getting a movie every year [TS]

00:41:04   and I gotta I gotta say that you know [TS]

00:41:07   the law of averages tells us that we're [TS]

00:41:09   going to have some of those expanded [TS]

00:41:11   universe movie star-type experiences on [TS]

00:41:14   the screen [TS]

00:41:15   I feel really good about where this [TS]

00:41:17   movie positions us but we're going to [TS]

00:41:20   have a young han solo movie [TS]

00:41:22   I mean it's not like you're worried that [TS]

00:41:23   there will be a first bad Star Wars [TS]

00:41:25   movie we got that and that's not that's [TS]

00:41:28   not a threat that cover times three [TS]

00:41:31   yeah we're good work up but yeah it does [TS]

00:41:33   start to you know what's this what's [TS]

00:41:35   this what's the quality of the whole [TS]

00:41:37   work start to look like as we have more [TS]

00:41:38   and more but I mean there's a lot of [TS]

00:41:41   their I was try attempted to I didn't [TS]

00:41:43   make it through all the way I attempted [TS]

00:41:44   to rewatch all the clone wars cartoon in [TS]

00:41:47   preparation and i only made it about [TS]

00:41:49   halfway i mean there's like there's many [TS]

00:41:51   many many hours of that show which I [TS]

00:41:53   mean I guess some people would not count [TS]

00:41:55   the same caliber of the movie but I mean [TS]

00:41:57   there's a lot of stars media out there [TS]

00:41:58   that still can't even with all the other [TS]

00:42:00   stuff throw away right although i'm [TS]

00:42:03   still I'm never going to watch another [TS]

00:42:05   star wars again because they've d [TS]

00:42:07   canonized jimmy eat our talk Tartakovsky [TS]

00:42:10   i can't pronounce his name is animated [TS]

00:42:12   clone war series it's it's great and [TS]

00:42:14   they d canonized it 18 and this playlist [TS]

00:42:18   or there's a lot of your own as into [TS]

00:42:20   what we're about to like now it's [TS]

00:42:22   troubling stars thought police you know [TS]

00:42:26   i'm curious as to what your favorite and [TS]

00:42:30   least favorite section of the movie was [TS]

00:42:33   because I've got my answer and it's [TS]

00:42:35   right but but i'm good i'm curious cuz [TS]

00:42:39   this i think this movie's got three [TS]

00:42:41   phase its there's like the buddy the [TS]

00:42:43   buddy movie phase at the beginning the [TS]

00:42:46   discovery the this discovery / fan [TS]

00:42:52   reconnection part [TS]

00:42:53   in the Middle where Rey and Finn [TS]

00:42:55   discovered the Millennium Falcon and [TS]

00:42:56   then han Solo and all that and then the [TS]

00:42:59   big climactic fight at the end i'm [TS]

00:43:03   curious what you thought the strength of [TS]

00:43:06   this movie were and what the biggest [TS]

00:43:08   weakness was let me throw it to Tony you [TS]

00:43:11   know I really like the beginning uh with [TS]

00:43:14   with just like establishing ray and [TS]

00:43:16   seeing what her life was like and I felt [TS]

00:43:18   like there was so much they were showing [TS]

00:43:19   us with her picking through the Star [TS]

00:43:21   Destroyer and and you know turning in [TS]

00:43:24   her pockets of scrap for like food and [TS]

00:43:27   living in the like hollowed-out 8080 at [TS]

00:43:30   like that that really did a lot for me [TS]

00:43:32   in terms of like establishing who this [TS]

00:43:34   character is showing us what is the [TS]

00:43:35   world like and like that was really [TS]

00:43:37   exciting and then and then Finn shows up [TS]

00:43:39   and actually I thought like even before [TS]

00:43:40   we get the scene where Han Solo walked [TS]

00:43:43   in the money in pocket and he's in his [TS]

00:43:44   home up like they did a lot to really [TS]

00:43:47   sell me on how great this was gonna be [TS]

00:43:49   and how fun this was before dipping back [TS]

00:43:51   into that well of let's show you some of [TS]

00:43:53   the big the characters that you you [TS]

00:43:55   you're coming back for that's me [TS]

00:43:58   it's hard to pick just 1i definitely [TS]

00:44:00   that probably the biggest fan of the the [TS]

00:44:02   last act of it because that's where the [TS]

00:44:04   payoff of all these really cool [TS]

00:44:06   individual scenes were where we finally [TS]

00:44:09   get to the point where here is where we [TS]

00:44:12   we may not know still who these factions [TS]

00:44:16   are what their who the big cheese's or [TS]

00:44:18   whatever we do know that we have two [TS]

00:44:22   people fighting that's not just missed [TS]

00:44:24   it's much more complex and much more [TS]

00:44:26   satisfying than Vader fighting Luke [TS]

00:44:29   Skywalker because you have two people [TS]

00:44:31   that are at the very beginnings of their [TS]

00:44:34   careers so to speak [TS]

00:44:36   I the more than the ice I really started [TS]

00:44:39   to love this movie [TS]

00:44:41   when I started to realize that oh [TS]

00:44:43   they're intentionally saying that kylo [TS]

00:44:45   Ren is not Darth Vader he is he is [TS]

00:44:48   literally a copycat pedes Livi's put [TS]

00:44:51   himself in the shadow of what the [TS]

00:44:52   greatest villain of this entire series [TS]

00:44:55   and he's really not great at it yet he's [TS]

00:44:58   not only not graded at yet but he is [TS]

00:45:00   sincerely conflicted about what his do [TS]

00:45:03   he knows that he wants to go away from [TS]

00:45:05   his father's path [TS]

00:45:06   he knows that TV with his future he [TS]

00:45:09   feels is with the dark side of the force [TS]

00:45:11   and with the with the you know the quasi [TS]

00:45:14   Nazi regime and he's got this really [TS]

00:45:16   cool outfit and stuff but you see him in [TS]

00:45:18   private moments think I'd i feel this is [TS]

00:45:21   what I want but my heart is telling me [TS]

00:45:22   to do something else and I don't know [TS]

00:45:24   what to do and in a much weaker movie [TS]

00:45:26   when he the line with which he kills Han [TS]

00:45:29   Solo that could have been just as cool [TS]

00:45:31   as someone razon in the final draft say [TS]

00:45:34   oh my god it's such a cool this could be [TS]

00:45:36   such an awesome like this could be the [TS]

00:45:37   trailer and everything is gonna be like [TS]

00:45:38   so it's gonna be animated gifs soon as [TS]

00:45:40   this thing in his family's home video [TS]

00:45:42   instead it comes off as sincere saying I [TS]

00:45:45   it's what i have to do is really really [TS]

00:45:49   hard he's really starting to cry and I [TS]

00:45:52   don't know what to do and I think it [TS]

00:45:53   will you help me learn how to salsa yes [TS]

00:45:56   I will help you and then this isn't hot [TS]

00:45:58   good i'm going to kill you now it's ok I [TS]

00:46:00   i have to get the only way to stop you [TS]

00:46:03   might leave me from wanting to like be [TS]

00:46:05   good like you was to kill you and ok so [TS]

00:46:08   I've killed us and I can move forward [TS]

00:46:09   and you just that's just it you realize [TS]

00:46:12   that that that Ray is having almost the [TS]

00:46:15   same sort of thing where only cheese in [TS]

00:46:18   a world that she know she doesn't know [TS]

00:46:20   about this larger world above your being [TS]

00:46:23   abandoned as a kid on this desert planet [TS]

00:46:25   having to scrape by on her own and so [TS]

00:46:27   the idea of her having to pick up that [TS]

00:46:29   lightsaber and figure out what to do [TS]

00:46:31   with it but just knowing that here is [TS]

00:46:33   this person who's killed our friend this [TS]

00:46:35   guy that this guy that I was starting to [TS]

00:46:38   idolize or that it's the living legend [TS]

00:46:40   now dead legend and some of that really [TS]

00:46:43   would have liked to have learned some [TS]

00:46:44   more from its not hatred spoke to people [TS]

00:46:47   who don't know what they should do but [TS]

00:46:48   they figured that if the purpose of [TS]

00:46:50   being here together right now is to [TS]

00:46:52   fight each other and you don't know [TS]

00:46:54   where any of these people are going to [TS]

00:46:55   go in the future thank thank God they [TS]

00:46:58   didn't they didn't just kill off kylo [TS]

00:47:00   Ren at the end of the movie like a [TS]

00:47:02   certain other Sith Lord i could mention [TS]

00:47:04   from serve another another trilogy [TS]

00:47:06   because i really want to find out what [TS]

00:47:09   happens to kylo Ren next that's true [TS]

00:47:11   pretty much every one of these [TS]

00:47:12   characters i really wanna know what [TS]

00:47:13   happens in the next to protect [TS]

00:47:15   the dark small comes back to but don't [TS]

00:47:16   worry about it that's absolutely what [TS]

00:47:19   still get it [TS]

00:47:20   okay well I'm we're looking to converse [TS]

00:47:22   in the cartoon robot leg is that here's [TS]

00:47:24   here's one let me let me just let me [TS]

00:47:26   just say that i don't i'm not insisting [TS]

00:47:28   that my my user interface to the [TS]

00:47:31   Expanded Universe is the correct one [TS]

00:47:33   all I'm saying is that ever since I was [TS]

00:47:35   a kid with a comic books for the [TS]

00:47:36   novelizations worth with everything my [TS]

00:47:38   take has always been that if it happened [TS]

00:47:42   to the movies it really happened [TS]

00:47:44   everything else is a very pleasant and [TS]

00:47:46   entertaining speculation about what [TS]

00:47:48   could be happening [TS]

00:47:49   that's totally fair are you saying that [TS]

00:47:51   you didn't buy it when the star like [TS]

00:47:53   burped boba fett backup [TS]

00:47:55   why didn't I i heard the perp as far as [TS]

00:47:59   i know that boba fett is dead dead dead [TS]

00:48:01   dead dead because I did it didn't he [TS]

00:48:04   didn't come back to life in them in any [TS]

00:48:06   of the movies which means that for for [TS]

00:48:08   me my center of reference how I choose [TS]

00:48:10   to define Canon and Nikon Canon which is [TS]

00:48:13   again my just my own choice [TS]

00:48:15   let's look at work is that we can agree [TS]

00:48:17   maybe maybe darth maul's not dead but we [TS]

00:48:19   can create has been cut in half we can [TS]

00:48:21   agree to anything have been falling down [TS]

00:48:23   a very big fan which there are many of [TS]

00:48:25   the star weekend TX exactly the thing is [TS]

00:48:28   like unfortunately he didn't lead and [TS]

00:48:30   play that video game long enough to get [TS]

00:48:31   the extra guy he should have jumped and [TS]

00:48:34   then like look for one of the health [TS]

00:48:35   packs before that that was I don't think [TS]

00:48:38   I don't know not as hostile against the [TS]

00:48:40   the prequels as most people are but [TS]

00:48:43   everybody will say that my consistent [TS]

00:48:45   complaint is that it looked like they [TS]

00:48:46   had some person who is writing a video [TS]

00:48:48   game just taking take his out his or her [TS]

00:48:50   outline and let's make that into the [TS]

00:48:52   outline for this movie like how how else [TS]

00:48:55   to explain and for no apparent reason [TS]

00:48:57   there's going to be like energy force [TS]

00:48:58   barriers that slam down randomly make so [TS]

00:49:02   much about as much sense as having a [TS]

00:49:04   bridge with no railings over a giant [TS]

00:49:06   chasm in the middle of your star [TS]

00:49:08   destroyed planet [TS]

00:49:10   sure she would have words about the [TS]

00:49:12   happen okay first of all you've got [TS]

00:49:14   stormtroopers you're not even bothering [TS]

00:49:15   to give them names that you don't know [TS]

00:49:18   and I don't you got your not meant to [TS]

00:49:20   that the management does not say you're [TS]

00:49:21   part of your valuable part of the team [TS]

00:49:23   there's promotion advancement and [TS]

00:49:25   recognition it's like what we could but [TS]

00:49:27   we decided that we did we did the cost [TS]

00:49:29   analysis that putting two railings up [TS]

00:49:31   will cost about eighteen dollars replace [TS]

00:49:33   you will cost seventeen dollars and [TS]

00:49:35   eighty cents so to save twenty cents [TS]

00:49:37   we're not going to bother to put up [TS]

00:49:38   around one line to the brainwashing stay [TS]

00:49:40   away from the edge if you fit if you're [TS]

00:49:43   a good storm trooper you wouldn't fall [TS]

00:49:45   off so they're just trying to get more [TS]

00:49:47   conscientious and more agile [TS]

00:49:48   stormtroopers I thought this movie did [TS]

00:49:51   something better than any star wars [TS]

00:49:54   movie previously it's done even I was [TS]

00:49:57   trying to think of is there in another [TS]

00:49:59   example of the buddy movie genre [TS]

00:50:02   infiltrating star wars and you've got [TS]

00:50:05   han and luke looking for the princess on [TS]

00:50:07   the death star but George Lucas doesn't [TS]

00:50:10   really have buddy movie chops know in a [TS]

00:50:13   ho [TS]

00:50:13   oh my god it is that is that is the [TS]

00:50:18   moment when the grand just spread across [TS]

00:50:20   my face and kept going until it started [TS]

00:50:23   annoying people under the seats are on [TS]

00:50:25   either side of me the the chemistry [TS]

00:50:28   between those two characters up I i [TS]

00:50:31   think i think somebody said that before [TS]

00:50:33   I want up I wanted nothing more than Ben [TS]

00:50:36   and po buddied hi genes throughout this [TS]

00:50:39   entire movie I would've been content [TS]

00:50:42   with that possible I mean it's kind of [TS]

00:50:44   fluid though because you have in and [TS]

00:50:45   poke make a great pair but then thin and [TS]

00:50:48   ray you were asking about what the our [TS]

00:50:50   favorite parts of the movie were one of [TS]

00:50:52   my favorite parts is after thin and Ray [TS]

00:50:55   run into each other and you know are [TS]

00:50:58   trying to figure out as they get [TS]

00:51:01   attacked and attacked and they start [TS]

00:51:02   sorting things out and they start you [TS]

00:51:04   know start to become this you know [TS]

00:51:06   haphazard sort of team you know that was [TS]

00:51:10   one of my favorite parts seeing those to [TS]

00:51:12   start coming together you know it wasn't [TS]

00:51:14   like the instant you know fist-bump bro [TS]

00:51:16   moment like within PO but still it sits [TS]

00:51:19   there and you know watching it grow [TS]

00:51:22   through the movie was a whole lot of [TS]

00:51:23   on for me that glorious moment on the [TS]

00:51:25   falken after they make their initial [TS]

00:51:27   escape and they're falling over each [TS]

00:51:29   other trying to complement each other [TS]

00:51:30   nicely so lonesome i have never seen [TS]

00:51:32   something like that in a movie I don't [TS]

00:51:34   think and I like one of my favorite Rey [TS]

00:51:37   and Finn roses when Finn is like oh we [TS]

00:51:40   gotta run get out of here and keep grabs [TS]

00:51:42   her hand and then started again like I [TS]

00:51:44   can run faster if you're not holding my [TS]

00:51:46   hand is that man when they kind of get [TS]

00:51:49   blown up and she's the first up and she [TS]

00:51:51   goes over him and he kind of wakes up [TS]

00:51:53   and is like are you okay and he's like [TS]

00:51:55   yeah I'm the one standing over you know [TS]

00:51:57   i'm finally but that was sweet i I like [TS]

00:52:01   if it was such a good pairing up because [TS]

00:52:03   they're both in the exact same sort of [TS]

00:52:04   place where he he is only known being a [TS]

00:52:08   stormtrooper and let that environment so [TS]

00:52:11   he's completely he he has skills and yes [TS]

00:52:15   knowledge but he has no size penis just [TS]

00:52:18   like Ray has no idea of what how the [TS]

00:52:20   world works outside of her home planet [TS]

00:52:22   and he's not a very good stormtroopers [TS]

00:52:25   and that's one reason i don't think we [TS]

00:52:26   needed as much introduction for him [TS]

00:52:28   because in his his all previous [TS]

00:52:31   existence has been this sort of blank [TS]

00:52:33   slate you know he's been a number you [TS]

00:52:35   know being trained up to do one thing [TS]

00:52:37   with you know ray you know we don't we [TS]

00:52:41   don't have a sense of what her routine [TS]

00:52:42   would be until we're shown it but I wish [TS]

00:52:44   that was that was one of the first nice [TS]

00:52:46   really impressive moments for me seeing [TS]

00:52:48   that battlefield scene where we see [TS]

00:52:50   before we know that Fitness Finn we just [TS]

00:52:53   see two stormtroopers one has been hit [TS]

00:52:55   and is dead rather is about the last [TS]

00:52:58   moments of life and he reaches up to [TS]

00:52:59   like touch the face of a fellow trooper [TS]

00:53:01   and leaving his blood-stained he [TS]

00:53:04   basically turning turning Finn into into [TS]

00:53:07   Wilson the tetherball with us with us [TS]

00:53:10   with his blood speed by the [TS]

00:53:11   blood-stained a handprint it was the [TS]

00:53:13   first time we'd see if the weather for [TS]

00:53:16   the rare times we've ever seen the [TS]

00:53:18   stormtroopers act like actual truth as [TS]

00:53:20   opposed to simple non non playing [TS]

00:53:23   characters i just got sounds silly but [TS]

00:53:25   one of the one of the things I really [TS]

00:53:27   that stuck out for me in the [TS]

00:53:30   in the Holy trilogy was just this one [TS]

00:53:32   moment in which there is a when Luke is [TS]

00:53:37   trying to lower other stormtroopers onto [TS]

00:53:39   the ship by tapping Keys tapping his [TS]

00:53:41   head and indicating that he might have [TS]

00:53:43   made my transducer is not is not working [TS]

00:53:45   my radios out and then his commander and [TS]

00:53:47   the parade's ok is we've got a bad [TS]

00:53:48   communicator since more people down [TS]

00:53:50   there [TS]

00:53:50   the idea that this is someone that can [TS]

00:53:52   basically the these are not just painted [TS]

00:53:54   on characters these are people with [TS]

00:53:56   individual motivations I kind of would [TS]

00:53:58   have enjoyed seeing more of that sort of [TS]

00:54:01   interplay if we're gonna have another [TS]

00:54:02   hour or maybe there's gonna be another [TS]

00:54:04   movie just about the stormtroopers I [TS]

00:54:06   want to see if it is Israel is thin that [TS]

00:54:10   first storm trooper who has ever decided [TS]

00:54:12   hey I'm really not interested in [TS]

00:54:14   machine-gunning an entire village is our [TS]

00:54:17   any of the other stormtroopers going [TS]

00:54:19   through that kind of self-doubt what [TS]

00:54:22   about Finn makes him special or it's [TS]

00:54:25   just the Empire really really good at [TS]

00:54:27   liquidating these people before they get [TS]

00:54:29   played out onto the field [TS]

00:54:30   well if you've got a if you've got a [TS]

00:54:32   stormtrooper on the planet's surface [TS]

00:54:34   losing his just losing his stuff when he [TS]

00:54:37   sees thin coat yells and calls him a [TS]

00:54:40   traitor and goes in for melee combat you [TS]

00:54:43   you got to think that there is room for [TS]

00:54:46   different kinds of emotional reactions [TS]

00:54:49   there you've got them slowly backing [TS]

00:54:51   away when they realize that kylo Ren's [TS]

00:54:53   busy for a temper tantrum around the [TS]

00:54:54   corner [TS]

00:54:55   no delicious delicious moment they're up [TS]

00:54:58   but i do want to go back to one thing [TS]

00:54:59   that you just said Andy you wanted more [TS]

00:55:02   time to find out the stuff are you [TS]

00:55:04   telling me that you want a special [TS]

00:55:06   edition of this movie if it were a [TS]

00:55:10   special kind of universe that is [TS]

00:55:12   expanded in some way [TS]

00:55:14   fifty percent more store just say I i [TS]

00:55:16   love this indication that there there's [TS]

00:55:19   more you can tell about this but all I'm [TS]

00:55:22   saying is that i might particular taste [TS]

00:55:24   under saying this my particular taste [TS]

00:55:26   I just want some measure of quality [TS]

00:55:28   assurance i want some quality control [TS]

00:55:30   somebody centrally to say okay I suppose [TS]

00:55:35   it's really really interesting that the [TS]

00:55:38   Stormtrooper would [TS]

00:55:39   have happy face decals all over his or [TS]

00:55:42   her armor and there but no that's not [TS]

00:55:45   canon that's not part of the storyline [TS]

00:55:47   and it would be interesting if Han Solo [TS]

00:55:49   had a previous wives and had lots of [TS]

00:55:51   bastard children of the galaxy [TS]

00:55:52   I can see how maybe as a fan you might [TS]

00:55:55   want to write that go ahead and write [TS]

00:55:56   that but that's not that didn't really [TS]

00:55:57   happen [TS]

00:55:58   that's right that's my dream job [TS]

00:55:59   especially during the during the [TS]

00:56:01   prequels on like if I could just find my [TS]

00:56:03   dream job this book thief this office [TS]

00:56:05   right next to George Lucas's and George [TS]

00:56:07   occasionally saying hey Andy with this [TS]

00:56:09   really happen is over no George that [TS]

00:56:11   would never happen [TS]

00:56:12   ok grab thank you very much let's take [TS]

00:56:14   another eighty dollars out of petty cash [TS]

00:56:15   take a long lunch you know I I have to [TS]

00:56:20   admit I I don't like the force awakens [TS]

00:56:24   as much as a new hope and empire for me [TS]

00:56:28   it's the third the last third of the [TS]

00:56:30   movie it's the final the final conflict [TS]

00:56:33   which is immaculately produced it is [TS]

00:56:36   thrilling [TS]

00:56:38   pew pew pew and accepts a band and [TS]

00:56:41   clashing swords but that was the one [TS]

00:56:45   moment in this movie where I felt like [TS]

00:56:47   I'd seen this all before and I got a [TS]

00:56:50   little bored honestly with does that [TS]

00:56:53   make me a bad person [TS]

00:56:54   yes horribly other things other things [TS]

00:56:57   chip that I know that you make you a bad [TS]

00:56:59   person and I thought it was weird that a [TS]

00:57:03   so they blew up five planets right entry [TS]

00:57:06   pretty quickly they were blown up right [TS]

00:57:09   and it was cool look great i like to [TS]

00:57:10   call that fine [TS]

00:57:11   nobody seemed to really mind there was [TS]

00:57:15   more concerned over Alderaan in New Hope [TS]

00:57:18   with with been sitting down heavily and [TS]

00:57:20   layout layout freaking out a little bit [TS]

00:57:22   there may be a lot more planets in the [TS]

00:57:24   universe at that point it's like you [TS]

00:57:26   know maybe stuff happens you know those [TS]

00:57:28   are planning weirdest planets yeah those [TS]

00:57:30   were like that [TS]

00:57:31   well one of those places was nice but [TS]

00:57:33   the others throughout their all jerk [TS]

00:57:35   planets yeah that's it that's the Andes [TS]

00:57:37   right now they was like the seat of [TS]

00:57:39   government or something so well yeah but [TS]

00:57:42   put two and two together there that's [TS]

00:57:44   where we keep our chicks because we have [TS]

00:57:46   what we call that term limits here in [TS]

00:57:47   the entire Oh [TS]

00:57:50   yeah I get that I get the sense that [TS]

00:57:51   y'all didn't mind that that much it [TS]

00:57:53   you know the one thing I kind of didn't [TS]

00:57:55   like was the because there's kind of [TS]

00:57:57   there's the two stories right there's [TS]

00:57:58   the we're looking for Luke Skywalker and [TS]

00:58:01   there's the we need to deal with the new [TS]

00:58:04   Death Star and the third kind of the the [TS]

00:58:07   last third of the movie is where the [TS]

00:58:09   fact that those are two different [TS]

00:58:10   stories that we can't solve at the same [TS]

00:58:12   time kinda starts to feel like more [TS]

00:58:14   glaring right like like one of those is [TS]

00:58:17   gonna have to fade into the background [TS]

00:58:18   and just be kind of dealt with as an [TS]

00:58:20   afterthought and and yes it's the one [TS]

00:58:22   the one with less explosions is not [TS]

00:58:24   going to get as much screen time so that [TS]

00:58:26   was that was a little unfortunate but I [TS]

00:58:28   mean it was still really fun for me and [TS]

00:58:30   I didn't really need to see yet another [TS]

00:58:32   planet sized superweapon blow up [TS]

00:58:35   yes me I mean you know if they enjoy [TS]

00:58:39   because god it's bigger than the last [TS]

00:58:40   one isn't it exciting figured look be [TS]

00:58:42   glad to be planets they just want them [TS]

00:58:43   somebody was convinced that good things [TS]

00:58:45   happen in threes [TS]

00:58:46   well it's it's it's more like like you [TS]

00:58:49   get someone who the first time that they [TS]

00:58:51   they use a 3d CAD app it's like [TS]

00:58:53   everything is made out of like squares [TS]

00:58:55   and circles because that's the only [TS]

00:58:56   thing they know how to make like you [TS]

00:58:58   should if you either get someone who's [TS]

00:58:59   like at least take the lynda.com [TS]

00:59:00   training on that app that could actually [TS]

00:59:02   make a weapon with compound curves at [TS]

00:59:04   least I mean it when you know they're [TS]

00:59:08   there i guess their innovation is that [TS]

00:59:09   it's built into a planet and that's kind [TS]

00:59:11   of a weird fusion of you know a planet [TS]

00:59:13   with this giant huge trench built into [TS]

00:59:15   it with them and we're gonna suck energy [TS]

00:59:16   out of the Sun which you know again [TS]

00:59:18   science-wise like that's kind of [TS]

00:59:20   confusions a console neil tyson really [TS]

00:59:23   is from he well he was pretty vocal on [TS]

00:59:26   the twitters it was that's that's what [TS]

00:59:28   he's got it he is he gets to do you [TS]

00:59:29   sighs tysons got eyes yeah he doesn't [TS]

00:59:32   have to be a nice guy he's got the [TS]

00:59:33   science behind him so you know so [TS]

00:59:35   Starkiller base problematic but there's [TS]

00:59:37   a very funny and i'm sure you've all [TS]

00:59:39   read this on Slate the Starkiller base [TS]

00:59:42   the contractor memos haha no talking [TS]

00:59:46   about you know we appreciate the [TS]

00:59:49   landscaping you put near the superweapon [TS]

00:59:51   but the first time we fired they're all [TS]

00:59:53   going to be destroyed [TS]

00:59:55   check it out i'll share the link it's [TS]

00:59:58   perfect [TS]

00:59:58   perfect [TS]

01:00:00   well you know if if starships travel at [TS]

01:00:02   the speed of plot I think landscaping [TS]

01:00:04   happens at the point of blood I guess [TS]

01:00:08   that is true and i did--like i loved so [TS]

01:00:12   my least favorite part of this movie is [TS]

01:00:14   when kylo Ren took his mask off for the [TS]

01:00:17   first time so like oh this guy's really [TS]

01:00:19   intimidating [TS]

01:00:20   oh it's not so much and I understand [TS]

01:00:24   what i was doing and it all made sense [TS]

01:00:26   when you you know you follow the path [TS]

01:00:28   that character but it was at that moment [TS]

01:00:30   it was like man this guy's like Darth [TS]

01:00:32   Vader he's super cool he's he stopped a [TS]

01:00:35   blaster with his mind and then he's just [TS]

01:00:39   a guy [TS]

01:00:41   well you know some of the some of the [TS]

01:00:43   subtext i think in the Holy trilogy and [TS]

01:00:47   its kind of made explicitly text in the [TS]

01:00:50   prequels because Anakin is just so [TS]

01:00:52   bloody whiny is that Darth Vader's not [TS]

01:00:56   all that intimidating deep down he's [TS]

01:00:59   broken he's he's lost three-quarters of [TS]

01:01:02   his body he's he's kind of weak and he's [TS]

01:01:06   under the Emperor's thumb so I thought [TS]

01:01:08   this is kind of consistent that kylo Ren [TS]

01:01:10   is he's he's he's not an alpha male at [TS]

01:01:14   this point he's he's powerful and he's [TS]

01:01:17   scary and he's useful but i like the way [TS]

01:01:21   that general Hux almost has contempt for [TS]

01:01:23   him and that's a bit of a call back to [TS]

01:01:25   the to a new hope when in that boardroom [TS]

01:01:28   scene where the generals and targeting [TS]

01:01:32   aren't exactly in our exactly treating [TS]

01:01:35   Vader like the Emperor's a right hand [TS]

01:01:38   either [TS]

01:01:39   yeah i think that because i think in [TS]

01:01:41   that case was only because they feel as [TS]

01:01:42   the well you're not that you're not the [TS]

01:01:44   guy you're the guy who runs into the [TS]

01:01:46   store get cigarettes for the guy while [TS]

01:01:47   the guy waits in the car i think that's [TS]

01:01:49   that's the sense that i got from either [TS]

01:01:51   the the way i'm an old general let's [TS]

01:01:54   move my way I used to I used two tries [TS]

01:01:56   to go to be digging tunnels and entrench [TS]

01:01:58   Wars whether you're just some guy in a [TS]

01:02:00   robe and a hat and that then yet you get [TS]

01:02:03   to call the shots but i think it would [TS]

01:02:06   have been it would have been worse had [TS]

01:02:07   not paid off the way that it did I think [TS]

01:02:09   that at some point he has to take off [TS]

01:02:10   that mask [TS]

01:02:11   and resident evil that really cool moves [TS]

01:02:13   at a hotel starts was what was what was [TS]

01:02:18   raised line that says that all while [TS]

01:02:20   you're not so tough as your president [TS]

01:02:22   you're just going to show what show [TS]

01:02:23   you're hiding behind a mask I best ok [TS]

01:02:25   your masters often and like oh damn it [TS]

01:02:29   ok but I thought that I thought that you [TS]

01:02:31   deflate a little bit like that or at [TS]

01:02:32   least get pissed off [TS]

01:02:33   ok guess I'm still interest rates and [TS]

01:02:36   been in a bad way here at all that was [TS]

01:02:38   just good to it was just really really [TS]

01:02:40   good to at least have it confirmed that [TS]

01:02:42   you know that they're so there's a small [TS]

01:02:45   list of things that i will be [TS]

01:02:47   disappointed and sad if they go for a [TS]

01:02:50   certain number of really obvious things [TS]

01:02:52   one of them would be okay Luke Skywalker [TS]

01:02:55   has gone bad and now he's gone he's gone [TS]

01:02:57   to the dark side of the force and I the [TS]

01:03:00   only thing I had a adding that first [TS]

01:03:02   teaser trailer of course i did see the [TS]

01:03:03   poster and it did occur to me that ok [TS]

01:03:06   there's one person we don't say that was [TS]

01:03:07   yeah that wasn't pretty popular fan [TS]

01:03:09   theory that I i thought was and I guess [TS]

01:03:12   I i mean i guess one could know who had [TS]

01:03:14   been cast as who and figure out that [TS]

01:03:15   probably wasn't true based on the III [TS]

01:03:17   didn't know the cabin I thought that was [TS]

01:03:19   a possibility going into the me because [TS]

01:03:22   it is weird that you know he wasn't on [TS]

01:03:23   the on the on the poster and the answer [TS]

01:03:25   is because he's not really in the movie [TS]

01:03:27   so we've got two movies yet to go yeah [TS]

01:03:29   what kind of want to cut kinda like [TS]

01:03:31   safety cables they had on mark hamill's [TS]

01:03:34   you see he's standing right at the edge [TS]

01:03:35   of that cliff and it was railing you [TS]

01:03:38   think it's a real quick because it's [TS]

01:03:40   like rock hard hard like you know that [TS]

01:03:42   the hook i'll put hard they'll put the [TS]

01:03:43   the put Harrison Ford on that walk with [TS]

01:03:45   no railings because they just don't need [TS]

01:03:47   him after this after at all [TS]

01:03:49   definitely going to get Luke so you [TS]

01:03:51   gotta you gotta say they had some sort [TS]

01:03:53   of spotter or some sort of airbags out [TS]

01:03:55   how to avoid you ever seen that there's [TS]

01:03:57   the best the production photo of when [TS]

01:04:00   Luke is hanging on the thing in Empire [TS]

01:04:02   he's out on the antenna and then there's [TS]

01:04:04   the the photo that is you-know-what out [TS]

01:04:06   of frame and there's just like a pile of [TS]

01:04:09   mattresses underneath the other things [TS]

01:04:11   so if he falls the land on like 15 [TS]

01:04:12   mattresses so I just assume there's a [TS]

01:04:14   bunch of mattresses buying it but what [TS]

01:04:16   you don't know is that they got all [TS]

01:04:17   those old mattresses on craigslist [TS]

01:04:19   they're infested with all kinds of stuff [TS]

01:04:21   and event fluid [TS]

01:04:21   elements you might rather plummet down [TS]

01:04:23   the air shaft at the end of filming mark [TS]

01:04:26   hamill took all those mattresses and [TS]

01:04:27   then he reuse them for this one [TS]

01:04:29   he's acting experience 50 yeah well he [TS]

01:04:33   still drives the Corvette summer show [TS]

01:04:35   vehicle you know that's commuter car one [TS]

01:04:38   of my favorite bits of the movie is the [TS]

01:04:41   fact that and it sort of cells the final [TS]

01:04:44   fight between kylo Ren and thin and Ray [TS]

01:04:47   is he kills off he kills off Han Chewie [TS]

01:04:52   is enraged and actually gets shot in and [TS]

01:04:55   on Kyle oh so he's wounded and he's [TS]

01:04:59   hitting himself and sort of frustration [TS]

01:05:01   trying to get feeling back into a side [TS]

01:05:02   or whatever and and that makes it [TS]

01:05:06   actually credible that thin survives for [TS]

01:05:10   a little while [TS]

01:05:11   yeah fighting fighting kylo and then [TS]

01:05:13   that and then rake and sort of finish [TS]

01:05:16   the job [TS]

01:05:17   my problem with kylo Ren is the rent is [TS]

01:05:20   earlier he lift someone up with his mind [TS]

01:05:24   and throws up you know grabs him and [TS]

01:05:27   he's pushing people all over the place [TS]

01:05:28   with the force and then when he's [TS]

01:05:30   fighting he decides well why should I [TS]

01:05:32   push people around [TS]

01:05:33   I'll just hit them with my lightsaber [TS]

01:05:35   wealthy he did a little bit but i think [TS]

01:05:37   that that's an excellent point to [TS]

01:05:38   because it would also disappointed me if [TS]

01:05:40   like I don't care how much potential ray [TS]

01:05:44   has if Ray is fighting someone who is [TS]

01:05:47   had pretty much complete Jedi training [TS]

01:05:49   from the most powerful Jedi ever and she [TS]

01:05:52   can fight him to asset standstill with a [TS]

01:05:54   weapon that she has literally never [TS]

01:05:55   picked up before in her life that he's [TS]

01:05:57   been training with four years that would [TS]

01:06:00   have been an ok that you could have done [TS]

01:06:01   that better [TS]

01:06:02   so it really is important that you show [TS]

01:06:04   that he is really badly wounded and that [TS]

01:06:07   she has babies like the Black Knight [TS]

01:06:08   with one arm and one leg and still able [TS]

01:06:10   to fight these two inexperienced people [TS]

01:06:12   to at almost a standoff with no actually [TS]

01:06:15   literally stand off because the fight [TS]

01:06:17   ends with nobody killing anybody and [TS]

01:06:19   just wasn't nice they happen to be [TS]

01:06:21   fighting on opposite ends of a fault [TS]

01:06:23   line my headcanon was because we saw in [TS]

01:06:27   a fight that the other stormtrooper that [TS]

01:06:30   had some kind of thing I don't know if [TS]

01:06:31   that was a vibroblade or what but here [TS]

01:06:33   that you know arm blade thing [TS]

01:06:35   my headcanon is all the stormtroopers [TS]

01:06:37   are trade with a variety of weapons and [TS]

01:06:39   yes blasters and something that's you [TS]

01:06:41   know he's okay with a lightsaber 10 apps [TS]

01:06:43   absolutely that's my headcanon I share [TS]

01:06:45   your head canon then I endorse it sir [TS]

01:06:47   tried it today but in mrs. miss no idea [TS]

01:06:51   what I'm talking about right or I'll [TS]

01:06:53   talk about Ray not fan I love in fin is [TS]

01:06:55   like I appreciate that he can he can [TS]

01:06:57   handle weapon also i like the fact that [TS]

01:07:00   it seemed as though the choreography [TS]

01:07:01   that they gave in [TS]

01:07:03   they got they gave John boyega was act [TS]

01:07:05   as though this is a conventional sword [TS]

01:07:08   that you just picked up and you [TS]

01:07:09   understand how it works as opposed to [TS]

01:07:11   you have been studying this martial arts [TS]

01:07:13   discipline of the lightsaber you know [TS]

01:07:15   that open no point have you sat [TS]

01:07:17   cross-legged under a waterfall [TS]

01:07:18   contemplating the nature of a daisy you [TS]

01:07:21   alternate the 48 hour seminar with Yoda [TS]

01:07:24   your exam [TS]

01:07:25   whereas raise choreography appeared to [TS]

01:07:27   be wow look what I can do with this [TS]

01:07:31   thing [TS]

01:07:31   yeah and you know what I mean we you [TS]

01:07:33   know she she beat up people with a stick [TS]

01:07:35   earlier on so yeah [TS]

01:07:37   scissors and a lot and retroactively leo [TS]

01:07:39   its I I was thinking that gosh it's kind [TS]

01:07:42   of disappointing that she can pilot the [TS]

01:07:44   Millennium Falcon about as well as han [TS]

01:07:46   solo can but that should have been our [TS]

01:07:48   first tip-off that she she even though [TS]

01:07:50   she doesn't know that you can use the [TS]

01:07:52   four she is able and can and is using [TS]

01:07:54   the force or hospitals not really that [TS]

01:07:56   great console only for you know for [TS]

01:07:59   special effects were limited right we i [TS]

01:08:01   mean the exciting thing in this is we [TS]

01:08:02   get a lot of space battles that are not [TS]

01:08:05   in space right there in the atmosphere [TS]

01:08:07   whereas all our previous space battles [TS]

01:08:09   were in space my marvel comics nerd [TS]

01:08:11   brain wanted those to be airspeeders not [TS]

01:08:14   x-wings & Tie Fighters I'm so pitiful [TS]

01:08:17   yes you will do that part of your brain [TS]

01:08:19   off for a while it's just that part that [TS]

01:08:22   one little part the other their think [TS]

01:08:25   there's that I can turn this into a Star [TS]

01:08:27   Wars versus Star Trek think it's only [TS]

01:08:28   it's only difference in style the way [TS]

01:08:30   stories are told one thing that I always [TS]

01:08:32   loved about Star Wars compared to star [TS]

01:08:34   trek is Star Wars had just intense air [TS]

01:08:37   battles & dogfights it wasn't like 22 [TS]

01:08:41   big destroyer ships just firing cannon [TS]

01:08:43   at each other [TS]

01:08:44   you just have the of [TS]

01:08:46   a cluster of flurry of x-wings & Tie [TS]

01:08:49   Fighters I the only thing that I had [TS]

01:08:51   actually had a almost sort of mental [TS]

01:08:52   disconnect when I was seeing the true [TS]

01:08:54   that the teaser trailer of ok my willing [TS]

01:08:57   to accept the idea of a TIE fighter [TS]

01:08:59   flying in atmosphere but that's like [TS]

01:09:02   that's one of those stupid nerd things [TS]

01:09:03   that if you had get hung up on that and [TS]

01:09:05   stop [TS]

01:09:05   no look it's a field GD dogfight between [TS]

01:09:09   a million x-wings look at a million [TS]

01:09:12   bajillion times fires the most awesome [TS]

01:09:14   thing ever [TS]

01:09:14   I don't care if i don't think they've [TS]

01:09:16   got airfoil surfaces [TS]

01:09:18   this is awesome but I did get hung up on [TS]

01:09:20   it they had the idea and I you will take [TS]

01:09:24   take the special pills they will help [TS]

01:09:25   you make no walk-in you get the 3d [TS]

01:09:29   glasses and you get the little pig [TS]

01:09:30   little vacuum-packed 054 pills take them [TS]

01:09:33   in sequence from left to right take the [TS]

01:09:36   pill the blue pill shop just listen [TS]

01:09:39   oh god it was so we've had we've had a [TS]

01:09:43   it's almost been like this [TS]

01:09:45   worldwide communal experience so many [TS]

01:09:47   people were so excited about it that [TS]

01:09:49   broke all kinds of box-office records JJ [TS]

01:09:53   Abrams is being talked about at the [TS]

01:09:55   Vatican it's it's it's it's being it's [TS]

01:10:00   been fantastic but I go back to the [TS]

01:10:03   previous observation that we're going to [TS]

01:10:05   have a new star wars movie every year [TS]

01:10:09   based on this movie and based on our [TS]

01:10:12   natural cynicism at all things Hollywood [TS]

01:10:15   are we ready for this that and let's [TS]

01:10:18   sort of make this our let's make this [TS]

01:10:19   our our opportunity for some of [TS]

01:10:23   statements on star wars the force [TS]

01:10:25   awakens cause we've got a at as we are [TS]

01:10:28   recording this we're getting ready for [TS]

01:10:29   the late panel with Jason Eric Massey [TS]

01:10:32   Eileen and Lisa and they're going to do [TS]

01:10:33   it all over again or opinions more you [TS]

01:10:36   say well I'll just I'd that's the one [TS]

01:10:42   big question is still left in my mind [TS]

01:10:43   the one thing that kind of concerns me [TS]

01:10:46   is this idea of we're gonna have a new [TS]

01:10:48   star wars movie every year like [TS]

01:10:50   clockwork and for me [TS]

01:10:53   Star Wars has always been an event even [TS]

01:10:55   when there's a trilogy coming out [TS]

01:10:57   that the prequels we're talking about [TS]

01:10:59   there's going to be a set of three [TS]

01:11:00   movies and that's all that were promised [TS]

01:11:03   to get and you can be sure that whoever [TS]

01:11:06   is writing these stories they writing a [TS]

01:11:07   story with a beginning a middle and an [TS]

01:11:09   end to set up a continuation and a [TS]

01:11:12   conclusion get you get to chase your [TS]

01:11:14   heroes up a tree throw rocks at them in [TS]

01:11:16   the tree then get them down out of the [TS]

01:11:18   tree and if you have to poking poking [TS]

01:11:19   him so much their dead bodies flat [TS]

01:11:21   falling out there it would it would [TS]

01:11:23   disappoint me as an old-school start [TS]

01:11:25   Star Wars person if it just every year [TS]

01:11:29   that's just another episode if it became [TS]

01:11:31   like the Marvel movies where each one is [TS]

01:11:33   not necessarily all that important [TS]

01:11:35   because they're going to be putting X [TS]

01:11:36   dollars into the budget than getting x [TS]

01:11:39   times 1.8 at least dollars back if not x [TS]

01:11:42   times 4 and so they forget that each one [TS]

01:11:45   should be really important worse if it [TS]

01:11:48   becomes again like a Marvel movie where [TS]

01:11:50   I love the fact that with force awakens [TS]

01:11:53   we got an entire story with beginning [TS]

01:11:55   and it felt like a beginning a middle [TS]

01:11:56   and an end even if some things were [TS]

01:11:58   unresolved I don't want to be a [TS]

01:12:01   situation where you are obligated to see [TS]

01:12:03   every movie because with every movie [TS]

01:12:05   you're going to find out something an [TS]

01:12:08   answer to a question that was raised [TS]

01:12:09   three movies ago and then there's going [TS]

01:12:11   to be an important plot point that won't [TS]

01:12:13   be that we should be addressed but is [TS]

01:12:15   not going to be addressed until another [TS]

01:12:16   three [TS]

01:12:17   I don't want to become like a cable TV [TS]

01:12:19   drama series was always 37 water pump is [TS]

01:12:21   really like yeah exactly i mean i-i i [TS]

01:12:25   really hope they keep it up in a trilogy [TS]

01:12:27   format where even if there's a movie [TS]

01:12:28   every year for the neck for this one in [TS]

01:12:30   the next two years is going to be one [TS]

01:12:32   story told in three parts and then that [TS]

01:12:35   will set up the ability to tell the next [TS]

01:12:36   story in three parts with one episode of [TS]

01:12:38   year I just don't want [TS]

01:12:40   hey oh my god stormtrooper k x 114 you [TS]

01:12:44   your your your your great-uncle just [TS]

01:12:46   left you a billion dollars but you have [TS]

01:12:48   to marry a woman but very this person by [TS]

01:12:50   12pm today [TS]

01:12:52   what high jinks will ensue while we try [TS]

01:12:54   to make this like okay yeah I won't [TS]

01:12:57   watch that would be him [TS]

01:12:58   yes you move i mean i won't be happy [TS]

01:13:01   about it but I don't care [TS]

01:13:02   there's already a novelization of that [TS]

01:13:04   I'm sure one of the and a thousand well [TS]

01:13:06   I think that's Andy you are in for [TS]

01:13:08   disappointment because you say what you [TS]

01:13:10   will [TS]

01:13:11   about George Lucas when he your star [TS]

01:13:14   wars was an extension of George Lucas [TS]

01:13:16   right so he was endlessly tinkering with [TS]

01:13:19   it [TS]

01:13:20   people argue that he didn't really [TS]

01:13:21   understand star wars and that led to the [TS]

01:13:24   prequels but there was one guy right he [TS]

01:13:26   was the driving force and now Disney is [TS]

01:13:31   the driving force a multinational [TS]

01:13:33   faceless corporation that's a lot [TS]

01:13:37   I so let's practice solace I and so I [TS]

01:13:40   thought you know [TS]

01:13:41   lucasarts uh was really good at [TS]

01:13:44   merchandising and marketing so I thought [TS]

01:13:46   until disney started marketing and so [TS]

01:13:49   you saw branded grapes and oranges [TS]

01:13:50   exactly the sort of bb-8 oranges and I [TS]

01:13:54   was like this is this is the world that [TS]

01:13:56   we are going to live in now with star [TS]

01:13:58   wars they just gonna make it into a [TS]

01:14:01   money-making machine as efficiently as [TS]

01:14:04   they can they're going to pump out these [TS]

01:14:05   movies over the course of the year [TS]

01:14:07   they're not going to be special I mean [TS]

01:14:09   the force awakens was special because [TS]

01:14:10   there was a break we had the prequels [TS]

01:14:13   there was a long time where there are no [TS]

01:14:14   star wars movies that those conditions [TS]

01:14:16   are not going to exist anymore so you're [TS]

01:14:18   just gonna get and the movies may be [TS]

01:14:20   fine but then that they're not going to [TS]

01:14:21   be as special as you know there were [TS]

01:14:23   only six of them and in the next six [TS]

01:14:26   years they're going to be more new [TS]

01:14:28   movies in there are original movies so I [TS]

01:14:31   i just it is that good or bad I don't [TS]

01:14:33   know more star wars can be good for some [TS]

01:14:36   people i do I feel like I maybe it's [TS]

01:14:38   unfair but in my mind I make a lot of [TS]

01:14:40   comparisons to the to the Marvel movies [TS]

01:14:42   and I I think back to there's a day I [TS]

01:14:44   was a summer day and so people wearing [TS]

01:14:46   t-shirts and on my way to the the train [TS]

01:14:48   which is you know only like maybe a [TS]

01:14:50   10-minute walk i passed like 15 people [TS]

01:14:52   wearing t-shirts with with some with an [TS]

01:14:55   Avengers character on it and I was like [TS]

01:14:57   wow that's that you know i mean this is [TS]

01:15:01   not what that would have looked like [TS]

01:15:02   five or ten years ago right like this is [TS]

01:15:04   clearly everywhere everybody has their [TS]

01:15:06   mandatory Avengers shirt now apparently [TS]

01:15:08   and I guess like you know we were just [TS]

01:15:12   in year one of of the new the you know [TS]

01:15:15   our new timeline was all star wars on [TS]

01:15:17   topic that's right to give enough time [TS]

01:15:19   in the every new movie will be a star [TS]

01:15:21   wars [TS]

01:15:22   and no matter the studio I think I trust [TS]

01:15:29   the powers that be to the the force [TS]

01:15:33   awakens is a really really good [TS]

01:15:36   foundation to tell that trilogy arm if [TS]

01:15:41   the other movies that are being [TS]

01:15:43   slaughtered in between do things you [TS]

01:15:47   know like you have hot young solo i [TS]

01:15:49   think is one of the ones that's been [TS]

01:15:51   mentioned that tell stories apart and [TS]

01:15:54   away from the bigger story I think it'll [TS]

01:15:59   be okay i mean you know the people who [TS]

01:16:01   love their harry potter and cherish [TS]

01:16:03   their harry potter can enjoy or ignore [TS]

01:16:06   fantastic beasts and where to find them [TS]

01:16:07   because it's a different time different [TS]

01:16:09   era different set of characters on if [TS]

01:16:12   they can manage to balance that i think [TS]

01:16:16   i will be somewhat okay with it but i [TS]

01:16:17   agree that you know all the sudden [TS]

01:16:19   having a movie every year because yes it [TS]

01:16:21   will generate tons of money does take [TS]

01:16:23   something away from from that collective [TS]

01:16:28   experience that you know everybody has [TS]

01:16:31   enjoyed so much in seeing this movie [TS]

01:16:34   again the first new Star Wars movie [TS]

01:16:36   after after decades so i'd i would hate [TS]

01:16:39   to lose that but if they are going to [TS]

01:16:42   turn them out then we may very well do [TS]

01:16:44   so well i am pleased that I've been able [TS]

01:16:46   to close out this podcast by asking you [TS]

01:16:49   all a question that a sec wait from [TS]

01:16:51   Europe glee over star wars the force [TS]

01:16:53   awakens to your natural and well [TS]

01:16:57   and cynicism over the Hollywood [TS]

01:16:58   entertainment industry here in the [TS]

01:17:00   future I shouldn't like let me just save [TS]

01:17:02   very very quickly that i want to say [TS]

01:17:06   that I wanted to write a letter to [TS]

01:17:08   everybody involved this movie and saying [TS]

01:17:09   oh my god you did it you did it you did [TS]

01:17:12   it you did it you made it you made a [TS]

01:17:13   real and a great star wars movie and I'm [TS]

01:17:16   so excited by this movie and I'm so [TS]

01:17:18   excited about the movies are going to be [TS]

01:17:19   making the future plus like [TS]

01:17:20   statistically there's net the chances [TS]

01:17:22   that one of us will die before all the [TS]

01:17:24   Star Wars movie comes out is like that's [TS]

01:17:25   ever increasing so that's something to [TS]

01:17:27   look forward to [TS]

01:17:28   ok my money's on ship sooner than others [TS]

01:17:32   I know what I think about how I'd like [TS]

01:17:34   chip to die i think is it is this about [TS]

01:17:39   to be a sponsor read i should i tell you [TS]

01:17:42   what i will come back as a blue glow and [TS]

01:17:44   I will haunt you they never talk about [TS]

01:17:49   the jerk Jedi ghost there's anything [TS]

01:17:51   about 20 then 20 years later we'll have [TS]

01:17:53   a much handsomer younger ghost take [TS]

01:17:54   place in the weekend [TS]

01:17:56   I'm not not possible alright i'm glad [TS]

01:17:59   that we were able to get together and do [TS]

01:18:02   something as breathtakingly our original [TS]

01:18:04   as talk about star wars the force [TS]

01:18:05   awakens fans designed it and do not go [TS]

01:18:10   thank you so much thanks a lot of those [TS]

01:18:12   that this was this was a fun release [TS]

01:18:14   after after a excited Dave learned over [TS]

01:18:17   this movie [TS]

01:18:18   this is great thank you haha Scott [TS]

01:18:19   McNulty thank you so much [TS]

01:18:21   after sharing all of our opinions and [TS]

01:18:23   perhaps to screen i know that there's [TS]

01:18:25   one thing that we can agree upon a star [TS]

01:18:28   trek is far better than Star Wars this [TS]

01:18:30   podcast is over [TS]

01:18:31   that's a very brave thing to say two [TS]

01:18:33   minutes before we get switched off but i [TS]

01:18:36   would expect that from a Star Trek fan [TS]

01:18:37   it was a maneuver worthy of a Romulan [TS]

01:18:40   sir Tony sindelar headship reading this [TS]

01:18:43   podcast you know I thought I might be [TS]

01:18:45   sick of talking about Star Wars but it's [TS]

01:18:47   been many days now and I'm still here [TS]

01:18:50   still ready to go so anytime anyplace [TS]

01:18:53   I'll talk about Star Wars that's what [TS]

01:18:54   I'm here for and shannon stutters I can [TS]

01:18:56   think of no other way that I would have [TS]

01:18:58   wanted to spend an hour and a half with [TS]

01:19:00   you [TS]

01:19:00   okay thank you very much dear that's so [TS]

01:19:02   that's so that's an odd statement [TS]

01:19:04   frustrated wife [TS]

01:19:06   as as it has a certain zip gun out of [TS]

01:19:09   the relationship at this point this is [TS]

01:19:11   turning into marriage counseling that [TS]

01:19:13   since we had that are that discussion [TS]

01:19:14   about whether to go with stucco or sort [TS]

01:19:16   of a sort of flat treatment for that [TS]

01:19:18   wall and I had so much time alone in the [TS]

01:19:21   room lady-wife wallpaper and on that [TS]

01:19:25   bombshell [TS]

01:19:26   my name is chip sudderth and jason still [TS]

01:19:29   has graciously allowed me to play in his [TS]

01:19:32   sandbox what I'm about to hand it back [TS]

01:19:34   over to him thanks for listening [TS]

01:19:36   goodbye and may the force be with you [TS]

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