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101: Anchoring vs. Simplicity

 

00:00:00 ◼   ► Welcome to Under the Radar, a show about independent iOS app development.

00:00:04 ◼   ► I'm Marco Arment.

00:00:05 ◼   ► And I'm David Smith.

00:00:06 ◼   ► Under the Radar is never longer than 30 minutes, so let's get started.

00:00:10 ◼   ► So today's episode, the topic for it sort of came from, as I think many of the best

00:00:16 ◼   ► topics for this show do, came from an experience I had this week, and something that I thought

00:00:21 ◼   ► was worth trying to unpack and trying to find a general lesson from.

00:00:25 ◼   ► And the specific experience that I ran into is probably about maybe three or four weeks

00:00:32 ◼   ► ago, I launched a relatively large update to Pedometer++.

00:00:36 ◼   ► I think I mentioned some of the details about it on the show.

00:00:39 ◼   ► It added badges, and I did some visual refreshing.

00:00:43 ◼   ► But one of the things I also did as part of this, as part of my visual redesigns, is I

00:00:49 ◼   ► changed the way that the tip jar in the app worked.

00:00:52 ◼   ► So Pedometer++ is a free app, it has ads in it, and then it has in the settings area,

00:00:57 ◼   ► there's a tip jar area that basically is the, "Hey, would you like to support the app?

00:01:04 ◼   ► Give me a little bit of money."

00:01:06 ◼   ► And if you do, A, it's just a nice thing, and people have an opportunity to support

00:01:12 ◼   ► the app directly in kind of more of a less aggressive way.

00:01:16 ◼   ► And then it will also remove the ads as well.

00:01:19 ◼   ► And I used to have three different sort of like buckets that you could choose from for

00:01:25 ◼   ► giving me a tip.

00:01:26 ◼   ► I think they were, I had a 99 cents, I had $1.99, and I think I had one that was $3.99

00:01:33 ◼   ► or $4.99.

00:01:36 ◼   ► And sort of increasing in size.

00:01:38 ◼   ► And the reason I had originally structured it that way was this general vague sort of

00:01:44 ◼   ► like business advice that I remember hearing in a podcast somewhere or reading in a book

00:01:47 ◼   ► somewhere that was talking about anchoring and about, you know, talking about, "Oh, you

00:01:51 ◼   ► know, why do they have like the extra super large soda at McDonald's?"

00:01:56 ◼   ► And it's like, well, the reason you have these extra, these sort of these bigger things is

00:02:00 ◼   ► to not necessarily sell more extra large SuperGulp, but is to increase, you know, sort of move

00:02:07 ◼   ► people up the line because people are sort of more tend to be afraid of the extremes.

00:02:12 ◼   ► So, you know, they would rather be somewhere in the middle.

00:02:15 ◼   ► And also, it has an anchoring effect where, you know, in this case, if I, one of the tips

00:02:21 ◼   ► is $5, and then the other one is 99 cents, and then the one in the middle is $1.99, you

00:02:27 ◼   ► know, the $1.99 standing next to the, you know, the $4.99 or whatever feels a bit smaller.

00:02:33 ◼   ► And so it has these could potentially in theory, have this sort of this positive psychological

00:02:38 ◼   ► effect.

00:02:39 ◼   ► Or at least that's what I told myself.

00:02:40 ◼   ► I didn't really, it's kind of one of those things where it's this vague sort of notion

00:02:43 ◼   ► that I remember hearing and reading and so I tried it.

00:02:45 ◼   ► And it had been that way for years since I first introduced the tip jar.

00:02:50 ◼   ► But in this update, I kind of had this feeling that like, I didn't like the design of it

00:02:54 ◼   ► visually, I thought it was a little bit complicated.

00:02:57 ◼   ► And also, there was some things I needed to do where there's a sort of a requirement now

00:03:02 ◼   ► where you have to be able to restore purchases for thing, any restore a purchase for anything

00:03:10 ◼   ► that has an actual effect.

00:03:12 ◼   ► So if it was just a straight up tip, you wouldn't necessarily need to restore purchases.

00:03:15 ◼   ► But in this case, I needed to make it a bit more simple and straightforward to make sure

00:03:22 ◼   ► App Review was happy.

00:03:23 ◼   ► And so I just dropped the two extremes.

00:03:26 ◼   ► I got rid of the lowest and the highest tip value.

00:03:28 ◼   ► And there's just a button now that says, you know, it's like, would you like to, you know,

00:03:32 ◼   ► put $1.99 in the tip jar.

00:03:36 ◼   ► And something interesting happened as a result of making this change.

00:03:40 ◼   ► The total revenue that I received from tips in the app, now, and especially I can tell

00:03:46 ◼   ► this now the story now because it thinks have settled down, you know, initially, there's

00:03:50 ◼   ► a nice spike, when there's a new update, you know, people tend to be a bit more generous

00:03:54 ◼   ► with their tipping right after an update, it seems, but things have settled down now.

00:03:58 ◼   ► And the result is that I make now about 20% more from tips than I did previously than

00:04:04 ◼   ► I did throughout, you know, so sort of the running average for the last few years even.

00:04:08 ◼   ► You know, it's now this substantial sort of step up, even though I've removed the top

00:04:15 ◼   ► option.

00:04:16 ◼   ► And it seemed like an interesting lesson to unpack here where I feel like it's so easy

00:04:21 ◼   ► as somebody who comes from a non business background.

00:04:27 ◼   ► Like I enjoy listening to I listen to a lot of business podcasts and things like that,

00:04:32 ◼   ► just for the purposes of trying to flesh this out, you know, sort of in my experience, but

00:04:38 ◼   ► I don't come from a background where this is the kind of thing that I would have studied

00:04:41 ◼   ► or been taught.

00:04:42 ◼   ► And so I'm just kind of making it up as I go along.

00:04:45 ◼   ► And it's easy, I something sometimes to somewhat blindly follow this kind of general advice

00:04:51 ◼   ► that I in my mind, it's like, well, some fancy business person said that this is the way

00:04:56 ◼   ► that you do it.

00:04:57 ◼   ► Like, if you want to maximize the number of people who are buying the middle one, you

00:05:00 ◼   ► need to put something you know, smaller below it and bigger above it.

00:05:04 ◼   ► And that's where they'll go.

00:05:06 ◼   ► In this case, it turned out that wasn't the case.

00:05:08 ◼   ► And if I hadn't sort of tried to follow this advice that the reality is I probably don't

00:05:13 ◼   ► fully understand, I may have been making 20% more all this time.

00:05:18 ◼   ► And so that seemed like something that was worth kind of dealing with.

00:05:21 ◼   ► And it has made me start to think about are there any other kinds of advice that I sort

00:05:26 ◼   ► of take and use without really probably fully understanding.

00:05:31 ◼   ► When it comes to business advice for pricing or marketing or positioning or things like

00:05:38 ◼   ► that, this kind of topic, I think it's important to consider a few caveats to everything.

00:05:44 ◼   ► Number one, you don't need any qualifications to write a business book.

00:05:48 ◼   ► Anybody can write these books or these blog posts or these medium essays and they don't

00:05:55 ◼   ► necessarily know what they're talking about.

00:05:58 ◼   ► So disclaimer number one is take everything with a grain of salt because anybody could

00:06:02 ◼   ► have written it.

00:06:03 ◼   ► - Including our advice.

00:06:04 ◼   ► - Including our advice, yes, this applies to us as well.

00:06:07 ◼   ► Disclaimer number two is that a lot of the popular business theories out there are exactly

00:06:15 ◼   ► that, theories.

00:06:16 ◼   ► They aren't necessarily proven by data all the time and so it's hard sometimes to know

00:06:24 ◼   ► what is being explained by how people think it works versus what actually does work.

00:06:28 ◼   ► And the biggest caveat number three is that different things work for different apps in

00:06:33 ◼   ► different markets and different products.

00:06:35 ◼   ► So all these theories and books and everything, they might be great, they might be perfectly

00:06:40 ◼   ► valid for selling, the classic example of selling widgets from a factory.

00:06:45 ◼   ► If you're selling a premium product that you're making physically, then that's a different

00:06:51 ◼   ► story from if you're selling an app on the app store or an in-app purchase for something

00:06:55 ◼   ► within an app in the app store.

00:06:57 ◼   ► These product types work so differently and the markets they sell to and the factors involved

00:07:02 ◼   ► are all so different.

00:07:05 ◼   ► And even within one of these factors, even if you say, "Alright, within the market of

00:07:10 ◼   ► in-app purchases in iPhone apps," which is somewhat narrow I guess compared to the whole

00:07:16 ◼   ► world of how you could possibly make money in business.

00:07:19 ◼   ► But even within that, there are huge differences.

00:07:22 ◼   ► What type of app are you making this purchase in?

00:07:25 ◼   ► What does the purchase do?

00:07:27 ◼   ► Why would the person buy it?

00:07:29 ◼   ► Those things vary wildly.

00:07:31 ◼   ► You have a tip jar in a pedometer app that doesn't really do much of anything except

00:07:36 ◼   ► remove an ad, so it's more of a goodwill kind of thing or for people who really hate ads

00:07:40 ◼   ► and are willing to pay to remove them.

00:07:42 ◼   ► That's very different from buying yourself a new bomb in the game that you just invested

00:07:47 ◼   ► six hours in and your brain is telling you, "Oh my god, just keep going at whatever cost.

00:07:50 ◼   ► I have to get through this next level.

00:07:52 ◼   ► Buy the bomb."

00:07:53 ◼   ► These are completely different mindsets and psychologies that go into these purchases

00:07:59 ◼   ► and so they have to be met with totally different approaches.

00:08:02 ◼   ► Any advice you hear or read out there might be about one thing and it might be perfectly

00:08:07 ◼   ► valid for one thing, but that might be completely different from what you are doing in your

00:08:12 ◼   ► app or in your product or in your store.

00:08:15 ◼   ► Everything has to be taken with a grain of salt and when possible and when practical,

00:08:20 ◼   ► the best approach is usually to just try stuff like you usually do, unlike you did here because

00:08:26 ◼   ► nothing will show you more than just trying it, whether something will work for you or

00:08:31 ◼   ► not.

00:08:32 ◼   ► That isn't always practical though.

00:08:34 ◼   ► Changing the way you make money, changing your pricing, changing the way purchases are

00:08:38 ◼   ► set up or are displayed or are marketed.

00:08:42 ◼   ► In some cases you can tweak things a little bit here and there and see results fairly

00:08:45 ◼   ► quickly without much effort, but in some cases changing these things or trying something

00:08:49 ◼   ► else takes massive effort, takes massive setup.

00:08:54 ◼   ► Sometimes you risk angering your customers if you change things more than zero to two

00:08:59 ◼   ► times in a short time.

00:09:03 ◼   ► Sometimes it's hard to experiment with these things, but when possible and when it's relatively

00:09:09 ◼   ► easy to experiment, I highly suggest that you do so because nothing is better than just

00:09:15 ◼   ► trying it in order to get data on what works and what doesn't.

00:09:19 ◼   ► >> Yeah.

00:09:20 ◼   ► I think that experimentation part is the thing that in this case I'm kind of kicking myself

00:09:26 ◼   ► that I didn't do because it's so often something that I do do, that I've tried so many different

00:09:34 ◼   ► things.

00:09:35 ◼   ► I do lots of different apps.

00:09:36 ◼   ► I tend to have a fairly experimental approach.

00:09:38 ◼   ► In this case, I just kind of found something that kind of worked and it worked well enough

00:09:45 ◼   ► and because it worked well enough, I just kind of went with it.

00:09:48 ◼   ► I feel like that is probably also something to be on the lookout for, of something where

00:09:52 ◼   ► it's like if it works a little bit, because say you followed some advice and it seems

00:09:58 ◼   ► to be working a little bit, it's still being circumspect about it and deciding, "Did it

00:10:04 ◼   ► work a little bit because of the advice you got and if you hadn't followed that advice,

00:10:09 ◼   ► it would have kind of all fallen apart and not worked at all?"

00:10:14 ◼   ► Or is that just like the base level and there's still a lot of room for improvement or opportunity

00:10:18 ◼   ► there that you could take advantage of by experimenting a little bit, by trying different

00:10:24 ◼   ► things?

00:10:26 ◼   ► And I mean, keeping in mind that I think it's easy to be a little bit too scared of trying

00:10:30 ◼   ► things out, but then of course I come back and I think about Overcast and I think about

00:10:34 ◼   ► its history and the number of different business models and the number of different approaches

00:10:38 ◼   ► that you've tried in that and there's certainly been bumps in that, but the reality

00:10:41 ◼   ► is like overall it seems like people adapt and move with it so that as long as you have

00:10:48 ◼   ► a sort of a clear story at any one time, people will move with you as you explore and adapt

00:10:55 ◼   ► to things and don't be too worried about trying too many different options.

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00:12:53 ◼   ► So I wanted to talk a little bit about my experience with this is somewhat similar.

00:12:59 ◼   ► When I took Overcast to the auto-renewing subscription model about a little over a year

00:13:06 ◼   ► ago now, I made a decision to simplify things.

00:13:08 ◼   ► So before that, Overcast had, for a couple years before that, it had a voluntary subscription

00:13:15 ◼   ► that you could opt into for various small benefits.

00:13:19 ◼   ► And then later I added ads and the subscription would give you the option to remove the ads

00:13:24 ◼   ► as well.

00:13:26 ◼   ► And so last year, I changed the subscription from non-renewing, just like the single purchase

00:13:33 ◼   ► of you'll buy a three-month interval or a six-month interval or a 12-month interval

00:13:37 ◼   ► to an auto-renewing subscription.

00:13:39 ◼   ► Auto-renewing subscriptions used to be a lot worse.

00:13:41 ◼   ► I actually read a blog post a few years ago when I was using Instapaper for them, or using

00:13:46 ◼   ► them with Instapaper rather, that I basically said auto-renewing subscriptions are not recommended

00:13:50 ◼   ► because they were really a pain to implement and maintain back then.

00:13:54 ◼   ► They have gotten better, I wouldn't say massively better, but they are better now.

00:13:59 ◼   ► And now they come with the additional benefit of if somebody stays subscribed for more than

00:14:04 ◼   ► a year, your subsequent years after year one for that person net you 85% of the revenue

00:14:11 ◼   ► instead of 70%.

00:14:12 ◼   ► So you basically get a raise and it is a way to keep more of your money in the App Store

00:14:16 ◼   ► than any other method.

00:14:18 ◼   ► So that's really nice.

00:14:20 ◼   ► So now I would say if you're using subscriptions, auto-renewing has improved enough and has

00:14:25 ◼   ► enough of that upside with the 85% on year two and up that I do recommend auto-renewing

00:14:30 ◼   ► subscriptions now for things where that makes sense.

00:14:34 ◼   ► So anyway, for years, and the same thing applied to Instapaper, I had three options.

00:14:40 ◼   ► I had three, six, and 12 month subscription buying.

00:14:44 ◼   ► And I did this for much of the same reason that you were talking about with things like

00:14:48 ◼   ► anchoring, also, and I apologize to anybody who is an econ or business major or certified

00:14:57 ◼   ► person, I apologize if we are mangling or oversimplifying any of these terms.

00:15:03 ◼   ► Most of this I learned from econ 101 or blog posts.

00:15:07 ◼   ► So I apologize in advance.

00:15:09 ◼   ► But one of the things I was trying to do with these options was to capture the consumer

00:15:15 ◼   ► surplus, which is an econ 101 term, I hope you're using it right.

00:15:20 ◼   ► - Fancy.

00:15:21 ◼   ► - Yeah, where basically different people are willing and able to pay different amounts.

00:15:26 ◼   ► And so what you ideally want to do is have multiple tiers of products or services so

00:15:32 ◼   ► that the people who can't or won't spend a lot of money, they have a nice inexpensive

00:15:36 ◼   ► option.

00:15:37 ◼   ► So there's some kind of middle thing for middle people, and then there's an expensive option

00:15:42 ◼   ► that people who really want to and are able to give you a lot of money, give them a way

00:15:46 ◼   ► to do that.

00:15:47 ◼   ► If you just charge the same amount of money for one option for everybody, there's only

00:15:52 ◼   ► one price, one option, you're gonna lose people on the bottom end who can't or won't pay that

00:15:56 ◼   ► price.

00:15:57 ◼   ► And the people on the top end who would have paid more, you're missing out on potential

00:16:01 ◼   ► money you could have made by having some way to charge them more.

00:16:05 ◼   ► That's the theory.

00:16:06 ◼   ► In practice, there's all sorts of complexity that goes into trying to implement some kind

00:16:11 ◼   ► of thing where you're trying to have products at every price point and everything.

00:16:14 ◼   ► See the iPad lineup for an example of this.

00:16:18 ◼   ► There's all sorts of complexity and downsides to it.

00:16:21 ◼   ► But the general idea is sound.

00:16:23 ◼   ► It is nice to have multiple options to charge different people.

00:16:26 ◼   ► The problem is there's also a pretty widely thought and probably backed up by data theory

00:16:35 ◼   ► that you will make more money in things like computer based checkouts or phone based checkouts.

00:16:40 ◼   ► You'll make more money the easier it is for people to pay you.

00:16:43 ◼   ► And the fewer steps are involved in doing that and the fewer decisions are involved

00:16:46 ◼   ► in doing that.

00:16:48 ◼   ► Because if someone's thinking, "Hey, you know what?

00:16:49 ◼   ► I might want to pay for this thing."

00:16:51 ◼   ► The more interruptions you present to that process, the more barriers you put up, the

00:16:55 ◼   ► more likely it is that they're just gonna say, "Yeah, you know what?

00:16:59 ◼   ► Forget it.

00:17:00 ◼   ► I'll come back to this later."

00:17:01 ◼   ► Or, "You know what?

00:17:02 ◼   ► I don't care that much.

00:17:03 ◼   ► I don't want to go through all this.

00:17:04 ◼   ► Forget it."

00:17:05 ◼   ► You don't want to present them with too many choices or barriers or options or reasons

00:17:12 ◼   ► to doubt their purchase before they commit and say, "All right.

00:17:15 ◼   ► Do it.

00:17:16 ◼   ► Buy it."

00:17:17 ◼   ► It's a tricky balance between trying to have different plans for different price points

00:17:21 ◼   ► to capture more of that consumer surplus or trying to keep things simple.

00:17:26 ◼   ► So what I decided to do for years and years, I had those three different intervals, three,

00:17:30 ◼   ► six, and 12 months.

00:17:31 ◼   ► There was actually no discount.

00:17:33 ◼   ► The 12 month price was just four times more expensive than the three month price and six

00:17:37 ◼   ► months was in the middle.

00:17:40 ◼   ► There was no gain to doing that.

00:17:42 ◼   ► But I did find that the 12 month, which I expected to sell the least, was actually the

00:17:48 ◼   ► top grossing item.

00:17:51 ◼   ► Whenever I would have those three, six, and 12 month options in both Instapaper and in

00:17:55 ◼   ► previous versions of Overcast, 12 month was always top grossing.

00:17:59 ◼   ► Three month was second and nobody bought the six.

00:18:03 ◼   ► And it was that way since the beginning of Instapaper until I eventually, after I sold

00:18:09 ◼   ► it, I think they transitioned to an auto renewing subscription model shortly after that or maybe

00:18:12 ◼   ► it was, maybe Vinay did it.

00:18:14 ◼   ► I don't even remember it so long ago.

00:18:16 ◼   ► But when there were those three options, three sold the most volume, six didn't sell much

00:18:21 ◼   ► of anything, and 12 was by far the top grossing.

00:18:25 ◼   ► And what I learned from that was that my users were pretty loyal and that people who would

00:18:29 ◼   ► pay for this kind of thing at all would pay for the high one pretty often and certainly

00:18:33 ◼   ► often enough that it could have been the only option.

00:18:36 ◼   ► It was also an awkward price because my price was $12 a year.

00:18:40 ◼   ► It was $1 a month.

00:18:42 ◼   ► So it was $11.99 in the app store.

00:18:45 ◼   ► And the app store, I think economically, I think a lot of people might balk at a two

00:18:50 ◼   ► digit dollar figure in US dollars.

00:18:53 ◼   ► There's a lot of price psychology that goes into pricing things that's gone back forever

00:18:58 ◼   ► where people end prices in 99 instead of rounding up to the next dollar.

00:19:02 ◼   ► So you'll have like $9.99 instead of $10 because the theory is that that sounds better and

00:19:08 ◼   ► people will buy it whereas $10 sounds like a lot because it's double digits.

00:19:12 ◼   ► That kind of theory, and again, this is all backed by decades and decades of theory that

00:19:18 ◼   ► might necessarily not be based on a lot of data.

00:19:21 ◼   ► So I apologize if any of this is totally wrong in practice.

00:19:23 ◼   ► But anyway, so when it came time to switch to auto renewing for overcast, what I decided

00:19:29 ◼   ► to do was only have the one year option.

00:19:34 ◼   ► And this was both to keep it simple, to try to guide more people in through it to say

00:19:38 ◼   ► like alright, if I keep it simple, then there's fewer barriers, fewer decisions to make, and

00:19:43 ◼   ► more people will subscribe.

00:19:45 ◼   ► Also I wanted people to kind of commit.

00:19:48 ◼   ► If you have a cheap option and an expensive option, then a lot of people obviously are

00:19:53 ◼   ► going to pick the cheap one.

00:19:55 ◼   ► And I'm like, you know, am I better off having fewer people but having more of them picking

00:20:01 ◼   ► the most expensive one year option than if I have the spread of options where that I'm

00:20:08 ◼   ► losing some of the possible high end.

00:20:11 ◼   ► And I thought too with auto renewing, the auto renewing suggestion is going to bother

00:20:15 ◼   ► people once a year with an email from Apple saying hey, this is about to renew.

00:20:20 ◼   ► And every time it renews, those people get that email, they have a chance to say you

00:20:26 ◼   ► know what, never mind, I don't want this.

00:20:29 ◼   ► And I know I'm going to lose people every time it renews.

00:20:34 ◼   ► Hopefully I'm staying ahead with net subscribers.

00:20:36 ◼   ► But every time it renews, I'm going to lose people.

00:20:38 ◼   ► So my theory is why don't I make it renew as infrequently as possible so that way there

00:20:44 ◼   ► are fewer times per year when people will either get upset that they forgot to cancel

00:20:50 ◼   ► it or that they will be reminded to cancel it and they'll get that email that basically

00:20:55 ◼   ► reminded them hey, you might want to cancel this every time they get this email.

00:20:58 ◼   ► So having a once a year option was my theory for maximizing that.

00:21:04 ◼   ► And I also, rather than having once a year at $11.99, I decided to take advantage of

00:21:11 ◼   ► that price rounding theory or behavior and just drop it to $9.99 for one year.

00:21:19 ◼   ► And that's the only option I offer.

00:21:21 ◼   ► And I've even gone through in different countries where the exchange rate was such that it would

00:21:27 ◼   ► push it a little bit above some round number like $11.99, Great British Pound or something

00:21:32 ◼   ► like that.

00:21:34 ◼   ► I've gone through and you can edit prices per territory with auto renewing subscriptions

00:21:39 ◼   ► now.

00:21:40 ◼   ► I'm not going to go through all the overall in-app purchases but you can do that with

00:21:42 ◼   ► subscriptions now.

00:21:43 ◼   ► So I went through and basically anything that was near a boundary, I lowered it back down

00:21:47 ◼   ► below that boundary.

00:21:48 ◼   ► So it's $9.99 pounds, $9.99 US dollars, $9.99 Canadian dollars, Australian, all the amounts

00:21:56 ◼   ► that are kind of close, I would drop them down.

00:21:57 ◼   ► So it's all one unified price because I have the luxury with this in-app purchase which

00:22:02 ◼   ► a lot of people do for their in-app purchases where there is no physical product that I'm

00:22:07 ◼   ► transferring here.

00:22:08 ◼   ► There's no real cost to what I'm offering.

00:22:10 ◼   ► So I can offer the in-app purchase at pretty much arbitrary prices.

00:22:14 ◼   ► It's pretty much like I would like people to pay me some money.

00:22:18 ◼   ► It doesn't really matter within a certain range how much money they're paying me.

00:22:25 ◼   ► I would rather have people paying me something per year than nothing per year.

00:22:31 ◼   ► So that also applies to different regions where money is worth different amounts.

00:22:36 ◼   ► So you go to places where $10 US sounds really expensive.

00:22:42 ◼   ► So places like China, Russia, India, you can go to these places and you can lower your

00:22:47 ◼   ► prices dramatically.

00:22:48 ◼   ► So I would go to some of these regions where the prices seemed higher by comparison and

00:22:55 ◼   ► cut the price in half or something like that, really cut it down.

00:22:59 ◼   ► So the theory being, again, I'd rather have some money than no money from people who live

00:23:03 ◼   ► here and who see the price in a certain way because of the exchange rate.

00:23:07 ◼   ► So all those strategies so far seem to have worked very, very well.

00:23:12 ◼   ► And by simplifying the offering from three options to one, I also have seen, because

00:23:17 ◼   ► even though I cut the price slightly from $12 to $10 a year, I've made it up both in

00:23:23 ◼   ► additional purchases because it's been an easier flow and also the 85% on year two.

00:23:29 ◼   ► So so far, I'm very happy with my arrangement as well.

00:23:32 ◼   ► Yeah, and I feel like there's such an element in this of we can optimize for the wrong thing

00:23:39 ◼   ► sometimes.

00:23:42 ◼   ► What you're doing there is you're making it simpler for everybody and understanding that

00:23:48 ◼   ► having some amount of revenue from any...

00:23:54 ◼   ► Any non-zero paying customer is a massive win, and your goal is to maximize those.

00:24:02 ◼   ► In that case, you just want to optimize to bring in as many of those people as you can.

00:24:09 ◼   ► And there may be other variables or things that we just have to be okay with ignoring

00:24:13 ◼   ► or with not optimizing for.

00:24:16 ◼   ► But overall, it's often, in your case, it works out great where it comes out overall

00:24:20 ◼   ► better.

00:24:21 ◼   ► And even if it didn't come out overall strictly better, there is still an advantage to the

00:24:26 ◼   ► super simple, easy to explain, easy to understand business model that isn't one of these things

00:24:33 ◼   ► where you're creating these barriers and any amount of confusion.

00:24:38 ◼   ► Because the reality too is, I'm thinking, is we don't have the luxury of sophisticated

00:24:44 ◼   ► or complicated marketing materials or opportunities to communicate extensively with our customers.

00:24:51 ◼   ► Like, that's just not something that we have the ability to do, where maybe this kind of

00:24:58 ◼   ► a situation would be a bit easier to have multiple tiers or to have more complicated

00:25:04 ◼   ► pricing.

00:25:05 ◼   ► Because typically the reality is, when pricing gets complicated, if you go to buy something

00:25:12 ◼   ► and the pricing isn't straightforward, it's usually because they're finding some way to

00:25:18 ◼   ► just squeeze a little bit more out of you.

00:25:20 ◼   ► It's not because they're trying to make your life easier as a customer.

00:25:24 ◼   ► They're trying to make their bottom line better as a business.

00:25:29 ◼   ► And so, in some ways, I also kind of just like the feeling of, from a customer goodwill

00:25:35 ◼   ► perspective, making it straightforward for them.

00:25:38 ◼   ► Presenting someone with a simple, straightforward option, it's like, "Would you like to support

00:25:43 ◼   ► this app?" or "Would you like to add these features?" or whatever it is.

00:25:46 ◼   ► It's like, "Yes or no."

00:25:47 ◼   ► And it's a simple choice, and if they decide no, great.

00:25:51 ◼   ► It's like, that's fine.

00:25:53 ◼   ► You hopefully will make it up from just the breadth of your user base.

00:25:56 ◼   ► But if yes, then great.

00:25:58 ◼   ► Like here, just push this button, we're done.

00:26:00 ◼   ► And there's not anything more to it, because I think the reality is it's hard enough to

00:26:05 ◼   ► get people to the point of even considering it.

00:26:08 ◼   ► The last thing I'm going to do is probably make that a hard choice for them.

00:26:13 ◼   ► Yeah, and that's very, very smart, because again, the one business theory that seems

00:26:19 ◼   ► to be most supported and least arguable is when you make it easy, when you remove barriers,

00:26:25 ◼   ► when you remove options, people tend to buy more frequently.

00:26:29 ◼   ► And so, anything you can do to simplify it also simplifies other things.

00:26:33 ◼   ► Simplifies your app, your backend that's tracking all this, your reporting, any kind of analytics

00:26:39 ◼   ► you're doing on what leads to sales and everything.

00:26:43 ◼   ► And also press.

00:26:45 ◼   ► When the press talks about your app, if you're lucky enough to get press, it's a lot easier

00:26:50 ◼   ► if the story that they can tell people is as simple as, "Yeah, the app is free,"

00:26:55 ◼   ► or whatever, but then you pay $10 a year if you want these things, or $5 one time if you

00:26:59 ◼   ► want these things.

00:27:00 ◼   ► That's a much simpler story than, "Oh, the app has these six different plans that

00:27:06 ◼   ► you can shoot between."

00:27:07 ◼   ► And it's like, how many people are gonna look at those six different plans and just

00:27:12 ◼   ► say, "You know what, nevermind, I gotta do more research, I'll deal with this later."

00:27:15 ◼   ► And sometimes they'll even be less happy, like if you pick the wrong level of something,

00:27:20 ◼   ► then it introduces the chance that they'll be less happy with their purchase afterwards,

00:27:23 ◼   ► 'cause they wonder, "Oh, maybe I should've picked the other thing, maybe they'll

00:27:27 ◼   ► regret what they did."

00:27:28 ◼   ► And when you have just fewer options, you do lose that consumer surplus capture on some

00:27:35 ◼   ► degree, but you also have so many other benefits that it is definitely worth considering, and

00:27:40 ◼   ► if possible, trying for your app.

00:27:42 ◼   ► - Yeah, and I think too, in general, and the more I was thinking about this topic in preparation

00:27:48 ◼   ► for the show, I kept thinking of examples of general business advice.

00:27:55 ◼   ► And the somewhat amusing thing is for any situation that I thought of something, I almost

00:28:00 ◼   ► always could think of a completely contradictory bit of advice that corresponds to it.

00:28:06 ◼   ► Like in this case, there's the, you can capture maximum consumer surplus by having

00:28:12 ◼   ► a tiered system with anchoring, so on and so on, fancy words.

00:28:17 ◼   ► Or on the flip side, there's the paradox of choice and saying if you present people

00:28:22 ◼   ► with too many choices, then the most likely choice they will make is no choice.

00:28:27 ◼   ► Or you could say the customer's always right as this general adage, or you could say on

00:28:32 ◼   ► the flip side that opinionated design is better.

00:28:37 ◼   ► There's always this tension, I think, between these, for anything, there's always a complete

00:28:43 ◼   ► opposite bit of advice that you could just as easily latch onto and take with you.

00:28:48 ◼   ► And so in closing, what I was thinking about saying is it's just like, I think the most

00:28:53 ◼   ► important thing for us as we're developing our applications is A, if one of those choices

00:28:57 ◼   ► is, if you have these competing bits of advice, choose the one that is simplest, that is easiest,

00:29:03 ◼   ► that is going to, that you understand the most, is probably always going to end up better

00:29:10 ◼   ► for you than just trying to do something that is more sophisticated, more complicated.

00:29:18 ◼   ► Maybe there is some theoretical benefit that you may be not taking advantage of by doing

00:29:23 ◼   ► that.

00:29:24 ◼   ► If it's not simpler is better, doing something that is going to make you happy is better,

00:29:30 ◼   ► and if you just do those things, then maybe that's just the best advice at all.

00:29:34 ◼   ► Just keep it simple, do something you enjoy, and you'll end up better off than trying to

00:29:39 ◼   ► do something complicated that you don't like.

00:29:41 ◼   ► I think you've written the shortest business book ever.

00:29:44 ◼   ► There you go.

00:29:45 ◼   ► Thanks for listening, everybody, and we'll talk to you next week.

00:29:47 ◼   ► Bye.

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