Cortex

00:00:00 ◼   ► Let me tell you, Myke, I have had a productivity week like no other I can remember in a very long time.

00:00:10 ◼   ► Sometimes it feels like you have stolen the fire of productivity from the gods and used it to drive the engine of your life for a bit.

00:00:21 ◼   ► And that's just 100% how I'm feeling this week. Every day it's like, bam, bam, bam, I'm getting stuff done.

00:00:28 ◼   ► I look back at my time tracking and it's like all the colors that I want, none of the

00:00:32 ◼   ► colors that I don't, and I'm thinking like, "Oh, is there a way I could have spent this

00:00:38 ◼   ► day better than I actually did?"

00:00:42 ◼   ► And the answer has been no.

00:00:44 ◼   ► It's been just the world's most amazing productivity week, and doubly so because it's coming right

00:00:51 ◼   ► on the back of returning from America, usually when I get absolutely nothing done.

00:00:56 ◼   ► It's just amazing.

00:00:57 ◼   ► Is this forced productivity or are you just, you're just riding some kind of wave?

00:01:01 ◼   ► Like are you forced into doing a bunch of things because of some deadlines or are you

00:01:06 ◼   ► like you've just found some second wind?

00:01:10 ◼   ► I'm aware that I don't have a lot of time before another season of travel begins, but

00:01:16 ◼   ► no, I wouldn't say that it's forced productivity.

00:01:19 ◼   ► You're just firing on all cylinders.

00:01:21 ◼   ► It's like, oh, I've caught this wave and I'm just surfing the wave and it's amazing.

00:01:27 ◼   ► Do you have those times, Myke? Do you ever get those times?

00:01:30 ◼   ► Yeah, I do actually. Every now and then I will have a few days where everything is going well

00:01:37 ◼   ► and I'm knocking all my tasks off my to-do list, and you're like, "Yeah, this has been a good week."

00:01:42 ◼   ► I have those. I can relate.

00:01:44 ◼   ► The thing is, though, you said right there, "Oh, you're knocking all your tasks off of your list."

00:01:50 ◼   ► I never feel that way though because there is when you have a great week, you realize

00:01:58 ◼   ► this intrinsic sadness of maximum productivity, which is being faced with the reality of just

00:02:07 ◼   ► how much it is possible for a human to accomplish in one day.

00:02:12 ◼   ► And that's when you have to face the fact that it is never as much as you would want

00:02:17 ◼   ► it to be.

00:02:18 ◼   ► So it's been an interesting week of both sides of this coin,

00:02:22 ◼   ► where I feel like, man, I could not have spent this week

00:02:25 ◼   ► any better, and I feel like, oh, I got all these things done.

00:02:29 ◼   ► And then, as is the case for everyone, you think,

00:02:32 ◼   ► oh, but there's so many things in the world

00:02:36 ◼   ► that I would want to do, but now I must face up to the fact

00:02:40 ◼   ► that the big part of work is about the selection of work.

00:02:44 ◼   ► It's not really about how much you can get done.

00:02:47 ◼   ► - So what are you saying that like,

00:02:49 ◼   ► even though you have been so productive,

00:02:52 ◼   ► it's still not enough?

00:02:53 ◼   ► Is that what you're saying?

00:02:54 ◼   ► - Yeah, 100%, yeah, 100%.

00:02:56 ◼   ► - So you feel like you're at maximum capacity,

00:02:58 ◼   ► but you're still not doing everything.

00:03:00 ◼   ► - Yeah, so this week, my routine has been really great.

00:03:03 ◼   ► Like I've been getting up every morning,

00:03:05 ◼   ► I've been going into the office, I've been writing.

00:03:07 ◼   ► - Oh yeah, okay, I get it.

00:03:09 ◼   ► - Right, like next I have this dedicated

00:03:12 ◼   ► like two hour block of time,

00:03:14 ◼   ► which is for mentally complicated tasks,

00:03:17 ◼   ► and I've been doing that,

00:03:18 ◼   ► and then afternoons have been super busy,

00:03:21 ◼   ► like I've recorded a bunch of podcasts this week,

00:03:23 ◼   ► and I've had these important meetings for my business,

00:03:28 ◼   ► and I've been doing all of this stuff,

00:03:30 ◼   ► and it's just realizing, like, oh man,

00:03:32 ◼   ► the day just flew by, and I feel like,

00:03:34 ◼   ► oh, okay, this is totally great.

00:03:37 ◼   ► But for example, a project that I referenced a while back,

00:03:40 ◼   ► Project Golem, it's like, oh, I've made no progress

00:03:43 ◼   ► on this particular project that past me thinks

00:03:47 ◼   ► is an important thing to work on.

00:03:49 ◼   ► But it's like, but there's no version of this week

00:03:52 ◼   ► where I could have possibly done that.

00:03:54 ◼   ► Or it's like, oh yeah, I've moved two videos forward,

00:03:58 ◼   ► but I have five in the queue

00:04:00 ◼   ► that I really want to be working on right now.

00:04:02 ◼   ► So it's just like, I just feel very, very faced

00:04:06 ◼   ► with that real realization about like prioritization

00:04:10 ◼   ► is the most important part of the work.

00:04:13 ◼   ► And it's like, yes, you can be more productive,

00:04:16 ◼   ► but the ceiling on how many different things

00:04:20 ◼   ► a person can effectively do in a day is surprisingly low.

00:04:25 ◼   ► Whereas when you're not being productive,

00:04:29 ◼   ► I always feel like, oh,

00:04:30 ◼   ► had I only been knocking it out the park today,

00:04:33 ◼   ► all the things I would have done.

00:04:36 ◼   ► But like, but the reality is on super productive days,

00:04:39 ◼   ► the actual number of things is much smaller

00:04:42 ◼   ► you estimate. So I feel like I've just seen it in super, super sharp relief having not

00:04:47 ◼   ► just a perfect day, but essentially a perfect working week. It's like, ah, I got a lot done,

00:04:55 ◼   ► but it is never, ever, ever possible to get nearly all the things you want to get done,

00:05:02 ◼   ► done, even if you're firing on all cylinders.

00:05:04 ◼   ► That's a harsh realization.

00:05:07 ◼   ► It is. It is.

00:05:09 ◼   ► Because you can't, there's no excuses anymore.

00:05:11 ◼   ► The Utrecht suit was, "Oh, it's because this part of my working setup wasn't perfect today, so I couldn't. There was no way I could have got everything done. If only everything was perfect, it all would have been done."

00:05:24 ◼   ► And then of course the knowledge that I have never had a productive period that isn't followed by a fallow period afterward.

00:05:32 ◼   ► It's like, oh, you pay for these days at some point in the future.

00:05:35 ◼   ► But yeah, it's just interesting to think about.

00:05:37 ◼   ► And it's just been on my mind to have gone through this great week at a time when I really wasn't expecting a great week.

00:05:45 ◼   ► And I have it on my list of things for my weekly review this weekend to really seriously go through my very long project list,

00:05:57 ◼   ► particularly now with that in mind and try to think about like well how many of

00:06:03 ◼   ► these things can you actually get done?

00:06:04 ◼   ► Well yeah because what you've proven is that you can't do all of the things right like it's actually not possible so you need to maybe be a little bit more picky about what stays and what goes.

00:06:14 ◼   ► Yeah yeah but it's sad because I want to do all the things Myke it's just not possible.

00:06:19 ◼   ► [DING]

00:06:20 ◼   ► Sometimes we record an episode of this show,

00:06:24 ◼   ► and then you go and do something.

00:06:26 ◼   ► And I think to myself, why could you not have done this

00:06:30 ◼   ► before you recorded?

00:06:32 ◼   ► Especially when we're in a travel period,

00:06:34 ◼   ► and it's very obvious to tell when we're in a travel period

00:06:37 ◼   ► because the release of the show starts

00:06:39 ◼   ► to slow down a little bit.

00:06:41 ◼   ► Are you going to complain about the [BLEEP] pack?

00:06:43 ◼   ► Is that what you're about to do here, Myke?

00:06:45 ◼   ► You can't use that word, though.

00:06:46 ◼   ► Why?

00:06:47 ◼   ► I can't have you, I can't, I can't, you can't,

00:06:51 ◼   ► I can't do that.

00:06:53 ◼   ► It's not, you know why, I mean, you know why

00:06:56 ◼   ► you have been in this country for long enough

00:06:58 ◼   ► that you know why I can't allow that word.

00:07:00 ◼   ► - But you wanna call it a butt bag instead?

00:07:02 ◼   ► - No, it's not a butt bag, it's a bum bag.

00:07:04 ◼   ► - Oh, okay.

00:07:06 ◼   ► You're using a cutesy word to say but instead of saying but.

00:07:11 ◼   ► - Yeah, but the problem is, I also hate that word.

00:07:13 ◼   ► - That's exactly what I'm doing, Myke.

00:07:16 ◼   ► I'm using a cutesy word to talk about your butt as well.

00:07:20 ◼   ► That's why I'm talking about a f*cking pack.

00:07:22 ◼   ► You know why I can't.

00:07:23 ◼   ► I can't, we cannot keep doing this because I'm just bleeping it every time.

00:07:27 ◼   ► You better not be bleeping f*cking pack, Myke.

00:07:30 ◼   ► I'm bleeping it.

00:07:31 ◼   ► I'm bleeping it every time.

00:07:32 ◼   ► There's nothing that can be said about this that will be happening every single time.

00:07:37 ◼   ► So I think the only way that we can proceed forward to talk about-

00:07:40 ◼   ► I'm appalled!

00:07:41 ◼   ► No, we have to stop right now!

00:07:43 ◼   ► You can't-

00:07:43 ◼   ► I will not be censored in this manner.

00:07:45 ◼   ► You can't bleep me out when I say f*ck pack.

00:07:48 ◼   ► I can.

00:07:49 ◼   ► What if I say-

00:07:50 ◼   ► [record scratch]

00:07:50 ◼   ► [music]

00:08:01 ◼   ► Well you see the thing is though, what's actually gonna happen is

00:08:04 ◼   ► that joke's just never making it in.

00:08:06 ◼   ► So-

00:08:07 ◼   ► God damn it!

00:08:09 ◼   ► This is why I don't like you having final cut of the show.

00:08:12 ◼   ► I feel powerless in this situation, which is making me really angry.

00:08:16 ◼   ► We're gonna have- I think the only way that we're gonna be able to get through this

00:08:19 ◼   ► is if we need to give- we need to give that back just a more general name that we're all happy with.

00:08:24 ◼   ► I'm very happy with f*ckin' back.

00:08:26 ◼   ► I know you are.

00:08:27 ◼   ► That's the name of it.

00:08:28 ◼   ► Right, okay. Well then...

00:08:30 ◼   ► Look, there is no way out of this. There is no way out of this.

00:08:34 ◼   ► Because we're never gonna get past this part of the discussion.

00:08:39 ◼   ► Uh-huh.

00:08:40 ◼   ► And I won't publish the episode with that word being used over and over and over again.

00:08:45 ◼   ► So we need to, we need to just, we need to put this behind us and use our creative minds to just

00:08:53 ◼   ► come up with some kind of cortex sounding name to describe that small utility bag that you wear upon

00:09:01 ◼   ► your front or your back. It could be a "cortility bag". I'll go with that. Sold. Your "cortility bag".

00:09:08 ◼   ► Look, I just need to get away from this conversation, right?

00:09:11 ◼   ► So like, whatever you said we were gonna go with.

00:09:14 ◼   ► Listeners, I'm trying to speak to you now through whatever Myke is gonna let through, right?

00:09:18 ◼   ► But I'm just letting you know that whatever you heard is vastly shorter than the actual

00:09:23 ◼   ► much longer, much protracted conversation that Myke and I had.

00:09:26 ◼   ► I need you to know this.

00:09:27 ◼   ► I need you to know this.

00:09:28 ◼   ► I tried to fight the good fight, but he has the final edit here.

00:09:31 ◼   ► I'll just say, this language is unbecoming of you.

00:09:35 ◼   ► I would say.

00:09:38 ◼   ► Alright. So your "cortility bag". So I was in the market for a "cortility bag".

00:09:45 ◼   ► Which is to describe, in case people have absolutely no idea what we're talking about

00:09:49 ◼   ► right now because of the mess that you have just heard. This is a bag that you wear upon

00:09:54 ◼   ► your front or your side typically. They were very popular I guess in the 80s and 90s. And

00:09:59 ◼   ► now they are mostly considered to be one of the worst fashion faux pas that an individual

00:10:05 ◼   ► can commit. There is a very famous picture of Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson wearing one.

00:10:10 ◼   ► Oh yeah, that's right.

00:10:11 ◼   ► Yeah, everyone knows that picture, that's an internet meme. That is the picture that

00:10:14 ◼   ► I will put in the show notes so people can understand what we're talking about. But

00:10:17 ◼   ► this is a bag that you kind of clip to yourself and you kind of keep little trinkets and items

00:10:22 ◼   ► and maybe your wallet, your velcro wallet, which I assume you're going to get to, to

00:10:25 ◼   ► go along with all of this.

00:10:27 ◼   ► I mean you're basically describing high school me now, yes, that's correct.

00:10:31 ◼   ► So yes, the issue is I can't understand why you would want one of these.

00:10:41 ◼   ► Okay, so yes, I was in the market for a "cortility bag" and I posted about it on Twitter and

00:10:52 ◼   ► I was, you know, because I hadn't been in the market since I was 16.

00:11:00 ◼   ► I think it's a very small market as well and it doesn't help.

00:11:03 ◼   ► Well yeah, so I was like, I want to know what the deal is.

00:11:06 ◼   ► What's the best one of these a person can buy if money was no object?

00:11:11 ◼   ► Give me your best courtility bag, sir.

00:11:14 ◼   ► And I was asking people for advice and people were leaving some comments in the Reddit

00:11:19 ◼   ► and showing me all of these different models and things.

00:11:21 ◼   ► Yeah, because I was interested.

00:11:23 ◼   ► So before the conversation goes much further though,

00:11:28 ◼   ► though, I do have to say that there has been a development since my wife discovered that

00:11:34 ◼   ► thread on Reddit and said, "What are you doing?"

00:11:38 ◼   ► - Yes. Personally, I was only gonna let it go so far before I engaged your wife in this

00:11:45 ◼   ► conversation because my assumption was if you bought one of these, she wasn't aware.

00:11:52 ◼   ► - Yes, yes. So that's basically what happened.

00:11:57 ◼   ► I'm very pleased. I'm very pleased that this has been shut down.

00:12:00 ◼   ► So yeah, I found out that this is the thing that,

00:12:04 ◼   ► against what I otherwise would want is not going to become a regular part of my

00:12:08 ◼   ► everyday wear.

00:12:09 ◼   ► Every day? You wanted to wear it every day?

00:12:13 ◼   ► Yeah. So I was thinking, I was thinking about how, look,

00:12:18 ◼   ► look, all of this started because I realized that in my everyday wear,

00:12:23 ◼   ► I do not have adequate storage.

00:12:26 ◼   ► - For what? - I would like more storage.

00:12:29 ◼   ► - For what?

00:12:30 ◼   ► - Okay, look, as a man in the world,

00:12:32 ◼   ► what do I wear?

00:12:33 ◼   ► I'm gonna wear jeans and I'm gonna wear a t-shirt.

00:12:36 ◼   ► That is the minimum everyday wear.

00:12:39 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:12:40 ◼   ► - That's just what's going to happen.

00:12:42 ◼   ► And if you're a guy that does not provide you

00:12:46 ◼   ► a lot of storage, because all I have is four pockets,

00:12:53 ◼   ► two of which at the back, you know, the ones on my bum,

00:12:58 ◼   ► are not super useful because you have to sit on them

00:13:01 ◼   ► and you don't want to overload them with stuff

00:13:03 ◼   ► or you become George Costanza-like.

00:13:05 ◼   ► So you really only have two pockets

00:13:08 ◼   ► and these pockets are already spoken for

00:13:10 ◼   ► with phone and wallet and keys

00:13:13 ◼   ► and trying to shove anything else in there.

00:13:15 ◼   ► Like you're done, you're out of storage.

00:13:17 ◼   ► And so I thought I need more storage.

00:13:19 ◼   ► - But what for though?

00:13:21 ◼   ► - Okay, all right.

00:13:22 ◼   ► (sighs)

00:13:25 ◼   ► All right, so here's how it started.

00:13:26 ◼   ► I bought a pair of earplugs.

00:13:31 ◼   ► Now, these are not squishy earplugs.

00:13:36 ◼   ► They're like custom, unsquishable earplugs

00:13:40 ◼   ► like a musician would get.

00:13:41 ◼   ► - Oh, did you have the thing poured in your ear?

00:13:43 ◼   ► - No, I didn't have that done,

00:13:45 ◼   ► but there was like some sizing for them, right?

00:13:47 ◼   ► So they're not like specifically for my ear,

00:13:49 ◼   ► but they're not squishy.

00:13:50 ◼   ► Like they have a hard part in them,

00:13:53 ◼   ► so they're not something that can be flattened down and used.

00:13:56 ◼   ► They have a volume to them.

00:13:58 ◼   ► And they come in a little case.

00:14:00 ◼   ► And the case is about like 60% the size of an AirPods case.

00:14:05 ◼   ► And then the little earplugs are inside.

00:14:09 ◼   ► This is the item that started it all.

00:14:10 ◼   ► Because I got these a year ago,

00:14:12 ◼   ► and I got them originally for my summer

00:14:16 ◼   ► of traveling last year, because it's like,

00:14:18 ◼   ► oh man, if there's one thing that happens

00:14:20 ◼   ► conferences and events, its stuff is too loud, right? And or you always get like stuck at

00:14:26 ◼   ► a restaurant that's too loud or you're in some environment where it's too loud. And

00:14:31 ◼   ► I just kind of like, I kind of refuse to be in these environments without your protection

00:14:35 ◼   ► at the at the bare minimum. And it's like, okay, this is the thing that I'm this is the

00:14:39 ◼   ► thing that I want.

00:14:40 ◼   ► This is not you just being an old man. Like you have had some issues there, right? Like,

00:14:46 ◼   ► not just like an old fuddy daddy, "Oh, this is too loud for me," right?

00:14:49 ◼   ► Yeah, I mean, I'm sure if I didn't have constant, persistent ringing in my ears, which gets

00:14:54 ◼   ► worse as I get older, I would very well be into old man territory by now anyway. Like

00:14:59 ◼   ► I would have gotten here one way or the other.

00:15:02 ◼   ► Okay, okay. I was trying to like defend you, but...

00:15:06 ◼   ► No, no, if it wasn't that, it would be the other thing. And the other thing is I just

00:15:11 ◼   ► always feel like, why do people go to these places that are loud and then you can't talk

00:15:14 ◼   ► and I don't understand and like, but we're somehow we're all trapped here by the few

00:15:19 ◼   ► extroverts who are like, "Oh, this will be a fun place to go!" And it's like, but I don't

00:15:23 ◼   ► know, it's there's some kind of weird collective action problem there where we just we end

00:15:28 ◼   ► up in this place. So anyway, I got these earplugs. And they were really useful last year. But

00:15:36 ◼   ► they're a real pain to try to carry on me. And it's not that it's a big object. It's

00:15:43 ◼   ► just it's like, oh, this is the final piece of straw

00:15:47 ◼   ► on the camel's back for how much can I actually keep

00:15:49 ◼   ► in my pockets comfortably, where I don't feel like,

00:15:52 ◼   ► oh, I've got a whole bunch of crap in my pockets.

00:15:54 ◼   ► 'Cause I hate the feeling of a full pocket, it's no good.

00:15:57 ◼   ► So, and then what happened is when I came back from travel,

00:16:02 ◼   ► I'm just, I'm aware that it's like,

00:16:05 ◼   ► I would love to have these things on me all the time,

00:16:09 ◼   ► because maybe once every six weeks or so,

00:16:12 ◼   ► I'll find myself in an environment where I feel like

00:16:14 ◼   ► I would wear these if I had them on me now,

00:16:17 ◼   ► but I don't have them on me now, right?

00:16:19 ◼   ► Because they're too clumsy and awkward

00:16:22 ◼   ► to just keep on my person.

00:16:24 ◼   ► And this is an item that I want to be part

00:16:28 ◼   ► of my everyday minimum viable carrying items.

00:16:33 ◼   ► And so this is what started to lead me down the road

00:16:37 ◼   ► of how do I acquire extra storage without extra clothing?

00:16:42 ◼   ► And so I thought that the,

00:16:46 ◼   ► that the courtility bag would be the perfect item

00:16:50 ◼   ► because once you open the door

00:16:54 ◼   ► to a whole extra little bag of holding,

00:16:57 ◼   ► then I thought, ooh, the other thing I can do

00:17:00 ◼   ► is I can keep like a little camera in there

00:17:02 ◼   ► because I do have this little Sony camera

00:17:07 ◼   ► that I have around the house.

00:17:08 ◼   ► And I always think like, yes, iPhone photos are good,

00:17:11 ◼   ► But even the world's smallest compact camera

00:17:14 ◼   ► takes so much better photos than the phone does,

00:17:17 ◼   ► and you just don't notice it

00:17:19 ◼   ► until you see them side by side.

00:17:20 ◼   ► And so I've always been happy,

00:17:22 ◼   ► like whenever I happen to have that camera around

00:17:25 ◼   ► and I grab it to take a picture,

00:17:27 ◼   ► it's like, oh God, these photos are so much clearer

00:17:29 ◼   ► and better and nicer than iPhone photos.

00:17:31 ◼   ► So I was thinking like, oh, I could add two items

00:17:34 ◼   ► to the minimum viable everyday carry

00:17:37 ◼   ► if I have a cortility bag

00:17:39 ◼   ► and I can have my little headphones in there,

00:17:42 ◼   ► and then I can have like a small camera in there,

00:17:45 ◼   ► and then they're saying, "Ooh, depending on how big it is,

00:17:47 ◼   ► "maybe one or two minor useful items,

00:17:50 ◼   ► "put some aspirin in there," or like whatever.

00:17:53 ◼   ► Like there's a couple of other things.

00:17:55 ◼   ► So that's where I was going with it,

00:17:57 ◼   ► but apparently my dreams have been dashed

00:18:00 ◼   ► about adding this to the everyday outfit.

00:18:03 ◼   ► So now I don't really know what to do.

00:18:06 ◼   ► minimum viable everyday carrying items.

00:18:10 ◼   ► - Yeah. - Yep.

00:18:12 ◼   ► There is definitely no pre-existing acronyms

00:18:15 ◼   ► to help you in this, your M-V-E-D-C-I.

00:18:20 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:18:21 ◼   ► - Well, you're all like, "LOL, what do you need it for?"

00:18:24 ◼   ► And I feel like I've actually given you a good case

00:18:26 ◼   ► of I would like to be able to have a few more things.

00:18:28 ◼   ► And so like, what do you suggest, Myke?

00:18:31 ◼   ► What is a thing that I could do if this is it?

00:18:34 ◼   ► I mean, honestly, this is it.

00:18:36 ◼   ► I think that, and I don't really understand

00:18:39 ◼   ► how small your jeans pockets are

00:18:40 ◼   ► because like I carry my wallet.

00:18:44 ◼   ► Are you a front pocket wallet person?

00:18:46 ◼   ► Yes.

00:18:47 ◼   ► That's your problem.

00:18:48 ◼   ► Okay, all right, fine.

00:18:50 ◼   ► But I switched to front pocket

00:18:53 ◼   ► because I don't like the unevenness in the back.

00:18:56 ◼   ► Yeah, I know it's bad.

00:18:57 ◼   ► I know I shouldn't do it.

00:18:58 ◼   ► So like the only thing that somehow works

00:19:02 ◼   ► in the back pocket is I do keep,

00:19:04 ◼   ► the only thing I put in there is the AirPods case

00:19:07 ◼   ► has wormed its way into my minimum viable

00:19:11 ◼   ► everyday carrying objects.

00:19:13 ◼   ► - Why is it, look, you need to stop changing here.

00:19:15 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:19:16 ◼   ► Every time, I've written it down,

00:19:18 ◼   ► I've written down the letters basically

00:19:20 ◼   ► every time you've said it,

00:19:21 ◼   ► and they're changing order and now the words are changing.

00:19:24 ◼   ► - Everyone knows what I'm saying here, Myke.

00:19:28 ◼   ► - Yep, yep, yep. - There's a set of things

00:19:29 ◼   ► that you want with you all the time,

00:19:30 ◼   ► and these are these things.

00:19:31 ◼   ► And so the AirPods just made it in under the wire, right?

00:19:36 ◼   ► Like they were the last things to get in

00:19:38 ◼   ► before the door was closed of nothing more.

00:19:40 ◼   ► And somehow the way they happened to sit

00:19:43 ◼   ► in my back pocket never bothers me.

00:19:45 ◼   ► They're always kind of off to the side,

00:19:47 ◼   ► but it's just, anyway.

00:19:48 ◼   ► - But if the earplugs are like smaller than that,

00:19:51 ◼   ► then why doesn't it work in the back pocket too?

00:19:53 ◼   ► - I don't know, it just doesn't.

00:19:55 ◼   ► It's terribly uncomfortable though.

00:19:57 ◼   ► - And it doesn't work with the wallet.

00:19:59 ◼   ► you can't put the wallet and the earplugs in the same pocket?

00:20:02 ◼   ► - No, it didn't.

00:20:03 ◼   ► Like I even tried to buy a slightly different wallet

00:20:05 ◼   ► to see if I could try to squeeze the earplugs in

00:20:08 ◼   ► and like it wouldn't work.

00:20:10 ◼   ► - What kind of wallet do you use?

00:20:11 ◼   ► Do you use a bi-fold wallet?

00:20:13 ◼   ► - I bought a bunch of the different Bellroy wallets.

00:20:15 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:20:16 ◼   ► - 'Cause I've used their like super slim one for years

00:20:18 ◼   ► and I thought like, oh, let me try,

00:20:19 ◼   ► if I upgrade to the next slightly bigger size,

00:20:22 ◼   ► can I get away with squeezing this additional thing?

00:20:23 ◼   ► It's like, no, that doesn't work at all.

00:20:25 ◼   ► So like I'm still just using the Bellroy.

00:20:27 ◼   ► But it's also this dream now that I have, Myke,

00:20:30 ◼   ► of more storage capacity.

00:20:33 ◼   ► Because it's not just about the earplugs,

00:20:37 ◼   ► it's about, wow, if I had like another pocket,

00:20:42 ◼   ► this would be great.

00:20:44 ◼   ► And so I think in a dream world,

00:20:48 ◼   ► I've slowly come back to the idea,

00:20:51 ◼   ► a thing that we discussed on one of the very first episodes

00:20:55 ◼   ► of the show.

00:20:56 ◼   ► - Oh no.

00:20:56 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:20:59 ◼   ► Okay.

00:21:00 ◼   ► - Which is, can I make jeans that are like cargo pants?

00:21:07 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:21:11 ◼   ► Just the secret pocket.

00:21:14 ◼   ► - Can I make jeans with a secret,

00:21:17 ◼   ► like earplugs pocket in them?

00:21:19 ◼   ► - They don't need a secret pocket.

00:21:20 ◼   ► I'm thinking like cargo pants have the side pocket

00:21:23 ◼   ► just on your thigh, a little bit above your knee.

00:21:26 ◼   ► - Great, great, great.

00:21:26 ◼   ► - And so I'm thinking like--

00:21:27 ◼   ► - No, no, no, no, no, come on, come on, come on,

00:21:29 ◼   ► listen, listen, listen.

00:21:30 ◼   ► - What do you mean no?

00:21:31 ◼   ► I think this is a good idea.

00:21:32 ◼   ► This is my, because as soon as the,

00:21:34 ◼   ► like, as soon as the Cortility bag got shot down,

00:21:37 ◼   ► I was trying to think about other things,

00:21:38 ◼   ► and this is my best idea. - This won't make it.

00:21:39 ◼   ► This won't make it either. - Why?

00:21:41 ◼   ► - This is as bad as the Cortility bag.

00:21:43 ◼   ► You can't have this huge pocket on the side of your jeans.

00:21:46 ◼   ► Your wife will not allow this.

00:21:48 ◼   ► - Well, I was gonna have two pockets, one on each side.

00:21:50 ◼   ► - Oh, gosh.

00:21:50 ◼   ► Do you think that you would be able to get away with wearing cargo pants?

00:21:54 ◼   ► Do you think that's something she would let you like...

00:21:56 ◼   ► Well, I don't want to wear cargo pants, though.

00:21:57 ◼   ► Right, I know, but...

00:21:58 ◼   ► I want to wear jeans.

00:21:59 ◼   ► Yeah, but the...

00:21:59 ◼   ► So I want a pocket like a cargo pants on the jeans.

00:22:02 ◼   ► The problem with cargo pants isn't like what they're made of.

00:22:05 ◼   ► It's the fact that they're covered in pockets.

00:22:08 ◼   ► Right, that's why I want those but jeans.

00:22:11 ◼   ► Right, but it doesn't matter what they're made of.

00:22:14 ◼   ► It will always look the same.

00:22:16 ◼   ► Right.

00:22:17 ◼   ► I think it's fine.

00:22:18 ◼   ► I know you do.

00:22:19 ◼   ► You thought the fertility bag was fine too.

00:22:22 ◼   ► Just for the record, I haven't actually run this past my wife yet.

00:22:26 ◼   ► As soon as you do, you'll be in the same situation.

00:22:29 ◼   ► That's why you have to have the secret pocket. It has to be hidden.

00:22:31 ◼   ► Maybe that's why I haven't felt like I really want to bring it up.

00:22:34 ◼   ► You know. Deep down you know.

00:22:39 ◼   ► But I was searching the internet bag. I was typing in like "jeans but like cargo pants".

00:22:45 ◼   ► That's the verbatim search.

00:22:47 ◼   ► Jeans, yeah, but like with the, you know,

00:22:49 ◼   ► with a secret pocket in them.

00:22:51 ◼   ► - Yeah, well, like there are companies,

00:22:53 ◼   ► there are companies that make men's trousers,

00:22:56 ◼   ► like business trousers, that do have secret pockets.

00:22:59 ◼   ► Like this is a thing that exists.

00:23:01 ◼   ► It's like, hey, you are a business monkey

00:23:03 ◼   ► going into the office every day

00:23:04 ◼   ► and you wanna have more storage

00:23:06 ◼   ► and you still have to have pants that,

00:23:08 ◼   ► like that's a thing that exists in the world,

00:23:10 ◼   ► but I couldn't find anything that was like that

00:23:12 ◼   ► but for jeans.

00:23:13 ◼   ► So that's why I was thinking,

00:23:15 ◼   ► just like in the early episodes,

00:23:17 ◼   ► to say, "Maybe if I bring a pair of my pants into the tailor and explain what it is I'm

00:23:22 ◼   ► looking for, I can get what I want and then give them 10 pairs of jeans and say, 'Make

00:23:28 ◼   ► them all the same.

00:23:29 ◼   ► Make them all like this.'

00:23:31 ◼   ► And then I can carry an additional number of small items with me every day."

00:23:35 ◼   ► In this instance, I think that's probably the best idea.

00:23:43 ◼   ► Right.

00:23:44 ◼   ► So you are behind me on this for when I bring it up.

00:23:46 ◼   ► I just want to check.

00:23:47 ◼   ► - If you can-- - Like you say,

00:23:49 ◼   ► like Myke says it's okay. - If you can modify--

00:23:51 ◼   ► - Right, Myke's the fashion guy,

00:23:52 ◼   ► and he says it's okay. - If you can modify

00:23:53 ◼   ► your existing jeans to include a pocket which is hidden.

00:23:58 ◼   ► - No, I don't think I can make it hidden, though.

00:24:00 ◼   ► I think that's asking a lot of us here.

00:24:01 ◼   ► - You can. - I was thinking

00:24:02 ◼   ► of putting the pocket on the outside,

00:24:03 ◼   ► and then it can also store more.

00:24:05 ◼   ► - No, no, no, no, 'cause you, (laughs)

00:24:08 ◼   ► you just don't understand.

00:24:10 ◼   ► I just can't. (laughs)

00:24:15 ◼   ► I don't see why my problems are so funny, Myke.

00:24:17 ◼   ► I can't tell if you are aware of what you're asking, like, because the pocket on the outside-

00:24:26 ◼   ► I don't understand why a pocket on the outside is such a problem for the world.

00:24:31 ◼   ► Like, for a man who spends so much time wanting attention to be drawn away from him, I don't

00:24:38 ◼   ► know why you want to do these things.

00:24:40 ◼   ► Like, everyone will look at you when you're walking down the street.

00:24:42 ◼   ► I feel like I explained why I want to do this.

00:24:44 ◼   ► And I don't understand why, I wouldn't notice

00:24:47 ◼   ► if someone has an additional pocket on their jeans.

00:24:50 ◼   ► - Well no, but this is the parameters.

00:24:52 ◼   ► Typically, like an additional pocket is fine,

00:24:55 ◼   ► but you want like a big pocket on the front on the outside.

00:24:58 ◼   ► People will notice that because you--

00:24:59 ◼   ► - Yeah, on the side, on the side above the knee, right?

00:25:03 ◼   ► So it's like, that's where I'm thinking the pocket will go.

00:25:05 ◼   ► - Like with outside fastenings and stuff?

00:25:08 ◼   ► - Yeah, like, yeah, you need to like clip it closed, right?

00:25:11 ◼   ► Like if there's a camera in there, you don't want the camera to fall out, or when you sit down.

00:25:15 ◼   ► So you need like a button? Yeah, like a button on the side of it.

00:25:19 ◼   ► You should just buy a utility kilt and just be done with it.

00:25:22 ◼   ► What's a utility kilt?

00:25:24 ◼   ► [laughs]

00:25:26 ◼   ► Just look it up.

00:25:27 ◼   ► Okay, alright. I'll make a note for the end of the show.

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00:27:46 ◼   ► A couple of episodes ago, you were talking about the fact that you were having trouble

00:27:51 ◼   ► with your charging solutions when traveling.

00:27:54 ◼   ► It's a lot, this is, there's a thread here running through right now.

00:27:57 ◼   ► Yeah, the thread is "Gray wants to fix the problems in his life, and why is the world

00:28:02 ◼   ► resisting me?"

00:28:03 ◼   ► That's the thread.

00:28:04 ◼   ► Why is the world against you?

00:28:05 ◼   ► It's a shame.

00:28:06 ◼   ► It's a great shame.

00:28:07 ◼   ► Why isn't the world manufacturing USB-C peripherals for me?

00:28:10 ◼   ► I don't understand.

00:28:11 ◼   ► The ballad of CGP Gray.

00:28:13 ◼   ► Why is my life so hard, Myke?

00:28:15 ◼   ► So you said you wanted the Quotex listeners to make suggestions for you, right?

00:28:20 ◼   ► Yeah, I did.

00:28:21 ◼   ► That they would go to the subreddit and make suggestions.

00:28:23 ◼   ► And I said to you that you would not get what you were looking for.

00:28:29 ◼   ► Right? I said you can ask for these suggestions.

00:28:32 ◼   ► I feel like you're getting ready to gloat here is what you're doing.

00:28:34 ◼   ► You will get things and people will make lots of suggestions,

00:28:40 ◼   ► but you won't get what you were looking for.

00:28:41 ◼   ► And I wasn't going to bring this up,

00:28:43 ◼   ► But a couple of days after you tweeted and you were like, "haha, see? I was right. I got lots of suggestions."

00:28:50 ◼   ► But my point was never... my point... I knew you'd get lots of suggestions.

00:28:55 ◼   ► But I knew you would not get what you were looking for, which was a way to reduce all of your cables

00:29:01 ◼   ► and all of the things that you take with you, just so you can charge like three or four different items.

00:29:06 ◼   ► So I want to know, did you get what you were looking for?

00:29:09 ◼   ► - Okay, yes and no. - Okay.

00:29:13 ◼   ► - Did I get what I wanted?

00:29:15 ◼   ► No, I did not get what I wanted,

00:29:19 ◼   ► which was a world in which USB-C

00:29:22 ◼   ► is a useful connection technology.

00:29:25 ◼   ► - Or at least viable for everything you use, right?

00:29:28 ◼   ► Which is more what you're looking for, right?

00:29:30 ◼   ► A way that USB-C can be like--

00:29:32 ◼   ► - The universal connector it's supposed to be, right?

00:29:35 ◼   ► - Yes.

00:29:36 ◼   ► - Of like, I wanna connect into devices

00:29:38 ◼   ► and I want to connect into power sources.

00:29:41 ◼   ► And one of those ends should be USBC,

00:29:43 ◼   ► so I only have to think about the attachment end,

00:29:46 ◼   ► not the connected to power end.

00:29:49 ◼   ► But that is not the universe that we live in,

00:29:52 ◼   ► not by far, not if money is no object.

00:29:56 ◼   ► It just, it doesn't exist.

00:29:58 ◼   ► And yes, I thought maybe somewhere on the internet

00:30:02 ◼   ► there was a stone I had left unturned

00:30:04 ◼   ► and the commenters would find that stone and go,

00:30:07 ◼   ► "Oh, here it is, here's the thing for you."

00:30:10 ◼   ► But no, that was not the case.

00:30:11 ◼   ► However, I do have to say,

00:30:13 ◼   ► I was really interested in all of the comments

00:30:16 ◼   ► and I found it super useful because between everyone

00:30:21 ◼   ► who left comments in that thread,

00:30:23 ◼   ► I feel like every possible permutation

00:30:28 ◼   ► and combination of charging devices

00:30:32 ◼   ► and solutions that existed in the world

00:30:34 ◼   ► was presented before me in one place where I could survey them all and make a judgment.

00:30:41 ◼   ► And so I did find that discussion very useful.

00:30:44 ◼   ► But no, it didn't give me the thing that I was hoping for, which is a universe where

00:30:48 ◼   ► USB-C is a viable choice.

00:30:50 ◼   ► It was really interesting to read through everything.

00:30:53 ◼   ► And there were lots of suggestions where people haven't invented all sorts of cables where

00:31:03 ◼   ► They're trying to recreate a new universal standard,

00:31:07 ◼   ► which then just becomes like the XKCD comic of like,

00:31:09 ◼   ► "Oh, there's too many standards,

00:31:10 ◼   ► so we should unify them all with a new standard."

00:31:12 ◼   ► Like, "Now we have too many standards plus one."

00:31:15 ◼   ► Where people were having these interesting

00:31:17 ◼   ► magnetic connectors and just a whole bunch of stuff.

00:31:21 ◼   ► And I considered it all and, you know,

00:31:24 ◼   ► it's not worth going through like the matrix in my mind

00:31:26 ◼   ► of what are the trade-offs of all of these various things.

00:31:30 ◼   ► But the end result of where I was on my first little test run trip in America is that I

00:31:38 ◼   ► am still using that Anker charger I mentioned before, the one that has a single USB-C port,

00:31:45 ◼   ► and it has four USB-A ports.

00:31:48 ◼   ► And I bought a bunch of wires to try to cover myself with all of the devices that I need.

00:31:53 ◼   ► They're just regular USB-A to either Lightning or micro USB or USB-A to USB-C.

00:32:00 ◼   ► I have all of those plus the Apple Watch charger

00:32:02 ◼   ► and that is the thing that I used on the last trip

00:32:04 ◼   ► and it worked pretty well.

00:32:08 ◼   ► There's only one real problem.

00:32:15 ◼   ► And the problem is this,

00:32:17 ◼   ► that USB-C power output on that Anker brick,

00:32:23 ◼   ► it's not quite enough power to keep the laptop

00:32:29 ◼   ► charged if you're running it at full capacity.

00:32:34 ◼   ► Ah, okay, then you may need a new one.

00:32:36 ◼   ► Because you're looking for a specific spec.

00:32:41 ◼   ► I think it's called power delivery, like PD.

00:32:45 ◼   ► That's what you need, or like there's like a different like wattage or amperage.

00:32:50 ◼   ► It is possible to do this.

00:32:53 ◼   ► Okay, no, but here we go, Myke.

00:32:54 ◼   ► Okay.

00:32:55 ◼   ► I understand that it is possible to do,

00:32:57 ◼   ► again it's a question of minimizing equipment.

00:32:59 ◼   ► - Oh, it's gonna be too big, right?

00:33:01 ◼   ► - The Anker One will go up to 60 watts over USB-C.

00:33:06 ◼   ► And if you're using the laptop to just do email

00:33:10 ◼   ► and browse the internet or whatever,

00:33:11 ◼   ► it will charge off of that 60 watts.

00:33:14 ◼   ► But when you open up Final Cut,

00:33:17 ◼   ► and it's doing background rendering

00:33:20 ◼   ► while you're working on it,

00:33:21 ◼   ► it slowly, slowly drains down.

00:33:25 ◼   ► And I thought, oh, this isn't gonna be a problem.

00:33:29 ◼   ► This is fine, it drains down slow enough

00:33:31 ◼   ► that it doesn't matter.

00:33:33 ◼   ► But it turned out like it was enough of a problem

00:33:36 ◼   ► that the very fact that I was using that charger

00:33:38 ◼   ► delayed me uploading a video by day

00:33:40 ◼   ► because I couldn't render the thing.

00:33:43 ◼   ► So that was frustrating.

00:33:46 ◼   ► But I think I still might just live with that as a problem

00:33:50 ◼   ► because the size of the brick that I would need to bring

00:33:54 ◼   ► to run the laptop at full capacity, like all the time,

00:33:58 ◼   ► is so enormous.

00:33:59 ◼   ► And then it also means I now need an additional,

00:34:03 ◼   ► I need to have like an additional item of like,

00:34:05 ◼   ► this also needs a power adapter

00:34:07 ◼   ► for wherever I happen to be.

00:34:08 ◼   ► So I think I actually can live with that

00:34:13 ◼   ► as long as now I know like,

00:34:14 ◼   ► oh, I actually have to plan for that in advance,

00:34:16 ◼   ► that if I'm going to be editing for eight hours

00:34:19 ◼   ► and then immediately trying to do an export,

00:34:21 ◼   ► like that's not gonna happen,

00:34:22 ◼   ► I have to do the export the next day.

00:34:24 ◼   ► And luckily, most of my videos are not like,

00:34:28 ◼   ► oh, it needs to be up by a particular time.

00:34:29 ◼   ► It's like whenever.

00:34:30 ◼   ► So I think that's what I'm going to end up with.

00:34:33 ◼   ► But I'm still really sad that I don't have wires

00:34:36 ◼   ► where I can just plug stuff either into the laptop

00:34:38 ◼   ► or to charge it.

00:34:39 ◼   ► But I feel like I'm closing in

00:34:43 ◼   ► on what the minimum viable charging situation is.

00:34:46 ◼   ► Although lesson learned is that I need much shorter wires

00:34:50 ◼   ► than I brought last time.

00:34:52 ◼   ► Like I brought longer wires than is necessary.

00:34:53 ◼   ► It's like, oh, I can actually use all these tiny wires because the charger comes up on the desk.

00:34:57 ◼   ► Yeah, I have a bunch of those tiny wires.

00:34:59 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:34:59 ◼   ► They're really, really good.

00:35:00 ◼   ► Like the Anker makes just like tiny lightning ones and tiny USB-C ones.

00:35:05 ◼   ► Like I have this horrifically large battery.

00:35:09 ◼   ► And I think this battery might have that power that you want, right?

00:35:13 ◼   ► That it could, but it's not a wall charging thing.

00:35:15 ◼   ► It's like one of those big external batteries.

00:35:17 ◼   ► Because I have it for the Nintendo Switch because it's the first battery.

00:35:20 ◼   ► I think it's the power anchor power core plus 26 800 or something and it and it will charge

00:35:28 ◼   ► and like keep charge for the Nintendo switch when you're playing. It was the first battery

00:35:33 ◼   ► that would do that it was powerful enough for that. I don't know if that's powerful

00:35:37 ◼   ► enough for a mac pro I don't know but I comes in a little pouch and in that pouch I've just

00:35:42 ◼   ► stuffed in like all these little tiny cables. They're really good. It is funny to me that

00:35:48 ◼   ► like and it but it is exactly what I expected what you were already doing was the best you could do

00:35:55 ◼   ► but there's just some optimizations to make to it because those those things that you plug into the

00:35:59 ◼   ► wall they're the best option right now there isn't anything else that will get you what you want

00:36:03 ◼   ► purely because what you're looking for doesn't exist which is some way to unify these cables

00:36:08 ◼   ► because even though USB-C is pretty great not everyone is using it and not everyone will use it

00:36:14 ◼   ► and it's going to be years until we get to a point where people are.

00:36:17 ◼   ► Yeah, well, I mean, like I said last time, I actually suspect that a USB-A to a mini USB

00:36:24 ◼   ► cable on the other end, I think that might be almost unmovable out of the market. I feel like

00:36:29 ◼   ► that's so cheap and so small and so easy compared to the more expensive USB-C that in 15 years,

00:36:37 ◼   ► there will still be devices that use it. Well, my feeling on this is that when it will change,

00:36:43 ◼   ► but when it changes USB-C will be to like USB what Mini is now like that there will be something else

00:36:50 ◼   ► and then we have USB-C on all these things but then it doesn't move again right so like your

00:36:54 ◼   ► toothbrush will get USB-C but by the time that happens there's another new universal standard

00:36:59 ◼   ► yeah yeah like it's wireless charging everything's wireless charging except the toothbrush right

00:37:05 ◼   ► which now has USB-C yeah I mean I do suspect that that's actually where we'll end up going is is the

00:37:12 ◼   ► the next battle will be what can charge wirelessly

00:37:14 ◼   ► and what can't charge wirelessly.

00:37:16 ◼   ► Because I already find myself looking at all of my devices

00:37:19 ◼   ► and thinking like, man, I wish this GoPro

00:37:22 ◼   ► could charge wire, like I don't care how slowly

00:37:24 ◼   ► if I could just put it on a wireless charger

00:37:26 ◼   ► and it would charge, I would love that

00:37:28 ◼   ► just to have the option.

00:37:29 ◼   ► And then they're also in my odyssey for charging solutions.

00:37:37 ◼   ► People do sell these micro USB to wireless charging coil adapters.

00:37:44 ◼   ► So you can like tape a wireless charging coil to the outside of the device.

00:37:48 ◼   ► Nah, you're okay. You're okay. I don't want to do that.

00:37:52 ◼   ► Like the Qi charging stuff feels pretty awkward anyway.

00:37:58 ◼   ► Right? Like there's something, I know it's okay, but there's just something about the...

00:38:03 ◼   ► "Oh, the way it works is it's just a coil, like a wire coil that's just in this thing."

00:38:07 ◼   ► And I'm like, "Ah."

00:38:09 ◼   ► I don't know enough about how the wireless charging works to feel like it's completely

00:38:14 ◼   ► okay.

00:38:15 ◼   ► That's just induction with electricity.

00:38:17 ◼   ► It's fine.

00:38:18 ◼   ► There's nothing to worry about with that.

00:38:19 ◼   ► I know it's fine, but it feels more like out there than what we currently have.

00:38:26 ◼   ► Every now and then, and again, I know that this is irrational, but every now and then

00:38:31 ◼   ► I'll like unplug a device because I'm convinced it will end up catching fire and this could

00:38:35 ◼   ► be anything. But it's like it's so subjective the way that I react to this stuff. It's like

00:38:40 ◼   ► I'll leave my iMac plugged in all the time but sometimes I won't leave my house with

00:38:45 ◼   ► the iPad plugged in.

00:38:46 ◼   ► Right, yeah, because it might burst into flames, that's what you're concerned about.

00:38:49 ◼   ► Exactly, like it could just spontaneously explode and I know that it is irrational but

00:38:53 ◼   ► sometimes it's best to just lean into those irrational fears a little bit so you just

00:38:58 ◼   ► don't fret about it all the time.

00:38:59 ◼   ► not but okay. So the Qi charger stuff triggers that more for you because you think, "Oh,

00:39:04 ◼   ► it's these two coils of wire just laying on top of each other."

00:39:08 ◼   ► Yeah. And also, like, just because it's new, right? Like, in that I'm so used to power

00:39:12 ◼   ► comes from physically plugging something into something else. There's this weirdness to

00:39:18 ◼   ► me and like, "Oh, you just put it on there and the power just goes in." I'm like, "I

00:39:22 ◼   ► don't…" Like, how… I assume something's heating something up. I just don't like

00:39:25 ◼   ► it. I don't like it. That isn't why I don't use it. The reason I don't use it is because

00:39:30 ◼   ► I don't find it as useful for me than these little docks that I already have. Because

00:39:36 ◼   ► we have Qi chargers in use in this house. Adina uses Qi charging and she loves it. But

00:39:41 ◼   ► I don't. Except for this, which I thought was hilarious, there was a couple of days

00:39:44 ◼   ► ago we were going to bed, we always like read on our phones in bed or whatever before we

00:39:48 ◼   ► go to sleep and we'd been out all day and she was like "Oh no, I only have 5% battery

00:39:54 ◼   ► And I can't charge my phone.

00:39:57 ◼   ► And I'm like, "Ha ha, here I am with my cable."

00:40:00 ◼   ► You know, she's just like, she'll read it for a few minutes, put it down for a few minutes,

00:40:05 ◼   ► read for a few minutes, put it down for a few minutes.

00:40:07 ◼   ► This won't help quell your anxieties at all.

00:40:09 ◼   ► But the way to think about what the cheat chargers are doing, this is not what they're

00:40:13 ◼   ► doing, but it's close enough.

00:40:15 ◼   ► It's kind of like when you put, if you think about taking two magnets and you put one on

00:40:21 ◼   ► a table and then you take the other one and put it underneath the table where the first

00:40:25 ◼   ► magnet is and they hold themselves together and how like, oh, you can rotate the one on

00:40:29 ◼   ► the bottom and the one on the top will rotate as well. That's like the, that's sort of the

00:40:34 ◼   ► mechanism by which you're charging the phone, right? Is motion through the bottom coil is

00:40:40 ◼   ► causing motion through the top coil and that's how they're charging. You wind up the iPhone,

00:40:46 ◼   ► right? That's how you're doing it. You wind it up and that's what those things do.

00:40:49 ◼   ► - Oh, winding, I'm used to that now, I understand.

00:40:52 ◼   ► - It's a way to wind up the phone

00:40:53 ◼   ► without having to physically connect something to the phone

00:40:56 ◼   ► 'cause you can use magnets.

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00:41:48 ◼   ► the last 300% is still to go. You've actually played a game on it.

00:41:51 ◼   ► I've played multiple games on it. It's like done done. I've even streamed on it like it is. It is

00:41:56 ◼   ► done. I did it in a day which I cannot believe. Wow. I did. I thought this was gonna. I was

00:42:03 ◼   ► preparing for like a four day cold sweat situation right. You know like when when you're trying to do

00:42:09 ◼   ► something like this with technology and it doesn't work and you start to get all frustrated with it

00:42:13 ◼   ► right and then like four hours pass and you need to change your t-shirt right like that's what I

00:42:17 ◼   ► I

00:42:30 ◼   ► asking me this, they're gonna say "what's your parts list?" so I'm gonna put a link

00:42:34 ◼   ► in the show notes to my PCPartPicker.com part list because everyone wants to know what your

00:42:39 ◼   ► parts are because if you're in this world, it's like "oh what processor did it get?"

00:42:46 ◼   ► I would ask, "why have you done such a thing?" but for anyone who has played games on a Mac,

00:42:52 ◼   ► the answer is obvious why you have done such a thing, yes?

00:42:57 ◼   ► It's more if you want to stream on a Mac.

00:43:01 ◼   ► So I've been doing a bunch of game streaming recently.

00:43:05 ◼   ► If you remember, we were talking about this a long time ago and I bought something so

00:43:09 ◼   ► I could stream with my Nintendo Switch, but overall it was just bad.

00:43:14 ◼   ► The Mac could just not do it the way that I wanted.

00:43:17 ◼   ► And I've been doing some streaming recently, streaming some Steam games, and I set up OBS.

00:43:23 ◼   ► OBS is this open source broadcasting software, that's what OBS stands for, and it is used

00:43:28 ◼   ► across the industry. There are other products, but OBS is a very good... okay. OBS is a very

00:43:35 ◼   ► powerful application. OBS is a minefield to try and understand. You've tried to use OBS,

00:43:40 ◼   ► right?

00:43:41 ◼   ► Yes, I used it and then abandoned it. Yeah. I could not get it to work the way I needed

00:43:48 ◼   ► it to work on a Mac.

00:43:49 ◼   ► got it to work on the Mac by having a close to two hour Google Hangout session with a

00:43:56 ◼   ► guy called Dan who really helped me out a lot and got it to a point where I was able

00:44:01 ◼   ► to stream on the Mac at 1080p, 60 frames a second, it looked great. When I installed

00:44:07 ◼   ► OBS on the PC it said "hey, do you want us to just check your settings for you?" Done.

00:44:15 ◼   ► And it is perfectly set up and it looks better than it ever did on the Mac of course, right?

00:44:20 ◼   ► But that's one of the big differences between the using it on a PC and using it on the Mac

00:44:26 ◼   ► is OBS sets itself up.

00:44:28 ◼   ► Oh my god, yeah.

00:44:30 ◼   ► Right?

00:44:31 ◼   ► And like if you've ever tried to use OBS on a Mac, you are now like punching the screen

00:44:36 ◼   ► because like trying to set OBS up on the Mac is a test of every ounce of patience you have.

00:44:43 ◼   ► Oh yeah.

00:44:44 ◼   ► I don't feel like a dumb, technically illiterate person, and I failed in this task to get it

00:44:50 ◼   ► to work the way I wanted it to.

00:44:52 ◼   ► So it's wonderful, it works perfectly, but I am so happy with what I have done here.

00:45:01 ◼   ► But this happy moment, it was hard fought.

00:45:09 ◼   ► This is a really difficult thing to do.

00:45:11 ◼   ► build the PC you mean? To get from "I want a PC" to "I have a PC" if you are not

00:45:19 ◼   ► familiar with this. And you're not buying it from Dell or whatever? Does Dell still

00:45:26 ◼   ► exist? I don't even know. Yeah they do. Their PC stuff is all Alienware for gaming now.

00:45:30 ◼   ► And they do some other stuff as well but like they have a whole range. Yeah like if I had

00:45:35 ◼   ► like if you told me like you need to get a PC for gaming what are you gonna do? I'd

00:45:39 ◼   ► like, uh, Alienware? Like that'd be the only word that would pop in my head.

00:45:42 ◼   ► Or the Corsair One. That was one that we were talking about a long time ago.

00:45:45 ◼   ► Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, that's right.

00:45:47 ◼   ► Yeah. And I have a bunch of Corsair parts in my PC, which I've realized I've not given a name to

00:45:53 ◼   ► yet, and I feel like I need to do that. There needs to be a name for my PC, but I don't know

00:45:56 ◼   ► what it's going to be yet. So I've been wanting to do this for a while, and a friend of ours,

00:46:03 ◼   ► a wonderful YouTuber by the name of Austin Evans, he's really, he's very, very good at this kind of

00:46:08 ◼   ► stuff and he does PC builds and if like about a month ago he did a streaming PC build and I was

00:46:15 ◼   ► like okay this is it right this is what I want to do right like I want to build a streaming PC

00:46:21 ◼   ► he's made a video talking about how to do it I feel like I've got to do it right um I didn't like

00:46:26 ◼   ► the case that he used so I asked him for some of the recommendations he made the recommendations

00:46:32 ◼   ► and then I started buying the parts. That was a long process which took two weeks to assemble the

00:46:41 ◼   ► parts because I don't know, say it was like 16 or 17 discrete boxes that needed to be delivered.

00:46:49 ◼   ► Now imagine dealing with delivery companies for 17 discrete items.

00:47:00 ◼   ► I have had things go missing.

00:47:03 ◼   ► I have had things go get canceled on the day that they were dispatched.

00:47:06 ◼   ► Right.

00:47:07 ◼   ► I have had multiple items get stuck in warehouses and I've had to cancel things

00:47:12 ◼   ► because like I kept planning into my week when I would build this thing.

00:47:17 ◼   ► So like I would be like, right, OK, on Tuesday I'm going to build it

00:47:20 ◼   ► because the last thing arrives Monday.

00:47:21 ◼   ► Didn't arrive Monday. It comes Wednesday.

00:47:23 ◼   ► So like I had been I was at a point where I was ordering something at one point.

00:47:28 ◼   ► They would say it would be too late.

00:47:30 ◼   ► I would cancel it with them, order it with someone else.

00:47:32 ◼   ► Like it has been wild because at a certain point,

00:47:34 ◼   ► I had 15 boxes in my office and I was dying to build it. Right.

00:47:39 ◼   ► So I was like, what place can get it to me tomorrow? What can I do here?

00:47:42 ◼   ► What can I do there? And then, um,

00:47:45 ◼   ► the last day I was getting my last piece to arrive, which was my case.

00:47:50 ◼   ► And I thought to myself,

00:47:51 ◼   ► because people had already started to ask me because I posted a picture of my

00:47:54 ◼   ► motherboard on Twitter. They're like, Oh, what is your parts? Like what,

00:47:59 ◼   ► What is your part list?

00:48:00 ◼   ► So I found PC part picker and I started entering everything.

00:48:03 ◼   ► PC part picker has a very useful tool

00:48:06 ◼   ► called the compatibility check.

00:48:08 ◼   ► - Ah.

00:48:09 ◼   ► - Where they look at all of your parts

00:48:11 ◼   ► and tell you if one of them is not compatible.

00:48:14 ◼   ► I accidentally bought the wrong case,

00:48:16 ◼   ► which was the last thing that I was waiting for.

00:48:19 ◼   ► It had taken me close to a week

00:48:20 ◼   ► to get the case to be delivered

00:48:22 ◼   ► with three different orders with three different companies.

00:48:24 ◼   ► And the whole time I was buying the wrong one.

00:48:28 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:48:29 ◼   ► I have one of these cases just sitting over there because there was nothing I could do

00:48:33 ◼   ► to stop the last delivery. So that thing needs to go back at some point. But I also accidentally

00:48:38 ◼   ► bought two gaming cards, video cards as well, so I have an extra video card in the office

00:48:43 ◼   ► too. All of these need to be returned at some point. But then I overnighted a different

00:48:50 ◼   ► case which is much bigger, but even though it's much bigger, it's probably ended up being

00:48:56 ◼   ► for the best because I then had a lot of space to build. Because originally I was going to

00:49:03 ◼   ► put this gaming PC on the same desk I have a corner desk that I have my iMac on. So I

00:49:08 ◼   ► was going to have them both there. And then I bought some stuff, I bought an ultrawide

00:49:14 ◼   ► monitor but I got a 25 inch one because I was like "well I don't want it to take up

00:49:17 ◼   ► too much space" that kind of thing. And then I was looking at Mega Office and I realised

00:49:25 ◼   ► I think I've sat on the sofa in Mega Office twice in a year.

00:49:31 ◼   ► So Gray, I am calling you from Mega Office 2.0, because Mega Office 2.0 stands for "There

00:49:37 ◼   ► are two desks now in Mega Office.

00:49:40 ◼   ► Goodbye sofa!

00:49:41 ◼   ► Sofa is gone."

00:49:42 ◼   ► I'm sad that your vlogging sofa is gone, but you know, the world evolves.

00:49:47 ◼   ► The world changes.

00:49:48 ◼   ► If you don't have two desks in an office, do you even have a desk?

00:49:53 ◼   ► Probably not.

00:49:54 ◼   ► You know, because it even applies to desks.

00:49:56 ◼   ► It does.

00:49:57 ◼   ► Two is one.

00:49:58 ◼   ► One is none.

00:49:59 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:50:00 ◼   ► In both of my offices I have two desks, so yeah, I completely agree with you.

00:50:02 ◼   ► It's the only way to roll.

00:50:03 ◼   ► It's the only way to roll.

00:50:04 ◼   ► I now have two desks in MegaOffice 2.0, and one of those desks is dedicated to my gaming

00:50:09 ◼   ► PC.

00:50:10 ◼   ► That's cool.

00:50:11 ◼   ► One other thing that I did that I didn't know that I'd done was I bought RAM with LED lights

00:50:16 ◼   ► in it.

00:50:17 ◼   ► And I thought to myself, that's ridiculous.

00:50:21 ◼   ► But what I didn't know, Gray, is the AMD processor that I bought comes with a fan.

00:50:25 ◼   ► The fan has LEDs in it too.

00:50:28 ◼   ► I hope you got a clear case so that you can see all the LEDs.

00:50:31 ◼   ► My case has a big glass side to it.

00:50:32 ◼   ► Well there you go, there you go.

00:50:34 ◼   ► It's not a gaming PC unless you have a window into which you can see all the little LEDs

00:50:38 ◼   ► blinking.

00:50:39 ◼   ► Exactly, because here's the thing, I wasn't planning on having LEDs in the case specifically,

00:50:43 ◼   ► but I did want to lean into some of the fun and ridiculousness of gaming PCs.

00:50:47 ◼   ► So I bought my keyboard and mouse, I bought the Razer ones, they have all those rainbow

00:50:52 ◼   ► lights on them.

00:50:53 ◼   ► Oh yeah, yep yep.

00:50:54 ◼   ► Right, because I was just like, I don't want this to be boring, right?

00:50:58 ◼   ► There is all this stuff available, let's lean into it a bit.

00:51:01 ◼   ► And then as I'm building this thing, I'm realising everything, like my motherboard has LEDs on

00:51:06 ◼   ► it, my fan has LEDs, and my RAM.

00:51:09 ◼   ► This is like a party in here, it's incredible.

00:51:12 ◼   ► And you can sync your keyboard and mouse's LEDs together, but also to Philips Hue bulbs.

00:51:21 ◼   ► Oh wow, okay.

00:51:24 ◼   ► So I have, and I will put a link in the show notes, I did an Instagram story, but I have

00:51:30 ◼   ► saved it.

00:51:31 ◼   ► So there's part of it you can see, my keyboard is changing colour, and I have this little

00:51:37 ◼   ► hue lamp that is also changing colour in sync wheel.

00:51:40 ◼   ► It is amazing.

00:51:42 ◼   ► so ridiculous but I love it. I love it because it's so wild.

00:51:47 ◼   ► Yeah, no, that is super ridiculous but it crosses over into the world of fun and it

00:51:53 ◼   ► feels like maybe you need to game while eating some special food as well. Like I feel like

00:51:57 ◼   ► maybe you need to lean into this all the way, Myke.

00:52:00 ◼   ► Like Mountain Dew and Doritos?

00:52:01 ◼   ► Yes, yeah, exactly. Like a lot of Mountain Dew and Doritos is exactly what I mean because

00:52:07 ◼   ► it sounds like you're having a crazy time over there with your Hue lights and your million

00:52:11 ◼   ► LEDs.

00:52:12 ◼   ► That's great though. I'm like, I can't believe you got this whole thing done since the last time we spoke.

00:52:16 ◼   ► I gotta say, it's impressive for someone who's just been working on the Macs forever, you just buy these sealed boxes.

00:52:22 ◼   ► But did you enjoy the process of putting it together?

00:52:25 ◼   ► So I have never done anything like this. I changed RAM once in an iMac through the iMac's RAM door.

00:52:35 ◼   ► Yep, I remember that door.

00:52:36 ◼   ► So that is as much as I have ever done.

00:52:39 ◼   ► So I was really nervous about this.

00:52:42 ◼   ► There were so many things that I could do to screw this up.

00:52:46 ◼   ► And it seems like this stuff has gotten a lot easier,

00:52:50 ◼   ► but it's not easy.

00:52:52 ◼   ► Like you couldn't just deliver me these parts

00:52:55 ◼   ► and I could just do it.

00:52:56 ◼   ► Like that's not how this is gonna work.

00:52:58 ◼   ► So I watched a bunch of YouTube videos.

00:53:00 ◼   ► I took a lot of notes.

00:53:02 ◼   ► Like I worked out step by step,

00:53:04 ◼   ► how was I gonna do this, right?

00:53:06 ◼   ► Like what was the order I was going to go in?

00:53:08 ◼   ► And then it was like a three hour process of looking at these notes,

00:53:14 ◼   ► cross referencing four different instruction manuals and working out like this

00:53:20 ◼   ► connector, where does it go?

00:53:22 ◼   ► Right, because this place just tells you to plug it into this thing, but not all

00:53:27 ◼   ► motherboards are the same.

00:53:28 ◼   ► So you have to find where that is on your motherboard.

00:53:30 ◼   ► And like I had to and it was difficult and like working out about the power supply,

00:53:35 ◼   ► Like what needs power? Like what am I looking for that requires power in this?

00:53:39 ◼   ► Like what plugs do I use? And it was all like,

00:53:42 ◼   ► it was just a case of me with all of the instruction manuals and taking my time,

00:53:47 ◼   ► I was able to do it all. And I only made one mistake.

00:53:51 ◼   ► The fan that goes on my processor, I put on in the wrong orientation.

00:53:56 ◼   ► Like I had to like flip it 180 degrees, right? I just put it backwards.

00:54:00 ◼   ► But that was the only thing. And it seems fine. Um,

00:54:04 ◼   ► I was very careful when I was taking it back off again.

00:54:07 ◼   ► But when I turned it on and it posted,

00:54:12 ◼   ► I was elated.

00:54:17 ◼   ► I was so proud of myself that I was able to do this.

00:54:21 ◼   ► - And you should be.

00:54:22 ◼   ► - 'Cause I was, I've been thinking of this as like,

00:54:25 ◼   ► it's almost like a rite of passage at this point.

00:54:29 ◼   ► Because I am a person whose life is in technology.

00:54:33 ◼   ► I talk about technology every day, it's what I do,

00:54:37 ◼   ► but I've never done anything like this,

00:54:39 ◼   ► even remotely like this.

00:54:41 ◼   ► Like everybody that I know has done something, right?

00:54:43 ◼   ► Either they used to work at an Apple store

00:54:45 ◼   ► or they have their own home server

00:54:47 ◼   ► or like they've wired Ethan.

00:54:49 ◼   ► I've never done anything like this,

00:54:51 ◼   ► like anything like tricky with hardware

00:54:53 ◼   ► or like a hardware project

00:54:55 ◼   ► that has required me to do something.

00:54:58 ◼   ► But like I built that computer with my own hands

00:55:02 ◼   ► And I feel like, I didn't want to say this,

00:55:06 ◼   ► but now I'm getting so excited, I'm going to say it.

00:55:09 ◼   ► I feel more affinity for that PC

00:55:11 ◼   ► than I have any Mac in like five years.

00:55:14 ◼   ► - Yeah, well, I mean, that's the effect

00:55:16 ◼   ► of making the thing yourself.

00:55:19 ◼   ► I'm not the least bit surprised about it.

00:55:21 ◼   ► - I understand now why everyone was telling me this

00:55:24 ◼   ► for so long, like, "Don't buy, you must build."

00:55:28 ◼   ► This is like, everyone has been telling me this,

00:55:29 ◼   ► and I'm like, "Oh, but that seems like so much hard work."

00:55:32 ◼   ► But that's my PC.

00:55:34 ◼   ► I picked all the parts out, I made all the mistakes,

00:55:38 ◼   ► and then I put it together and I made it work.

00:55:41 ◼   ► I troubleshooted what needed to be troubleshooting.

00:55:45 ◼   ► I'm dealing with drivers, I hate drivers,

00:55:47 ◼   ► but I'm dealing with them and I'm making it work.

00:55:50 ◼   ► I'm fixing the problems that are coming up,

00:55:52 ◼   ► I'm patching the leaks.

00:55:53 ◼   ► I'm dealing with it and it's my project.

00:55:58 ◼   ► An iMac, you go to apple.com, you click three boxes,

00:56:02 ◼   ► and it arrives and you plug it in and it's done.

00:56:04 ◼   ► And here's the thing, for my work, that's what I want.

00:56:09 ◼   ► - Right, yeah.

00:56:11 ◼   ► - I'm using an audio tool, like an audio box, right?

00:56:15 ◼   ► 'Cause I have a headset, a really nice headset

00:56:18 ◼   ► that I'm using for my gaming PC.

00:56:19 ◼   ► For some reason today, I installed a Windows update

00:56:23 ◼   ► and then that just stopped working

00:56:25 ◼   ► and the driver wouldn't work and I had to go back

00:56:27 ◼   ► like three driver iterations for some reason

00:56:30 ◼   ► and now it works. When I plug this into the Mac, I don't need to do anything. Nothing.

00:56:36 ◼   ► It just works. As soon as I plug it into the Mac, I can select it in my audio apps, right?

00:56:42 ◼   ► I can select it in Skype and it's done. But for this thing, you have to install the software,

00:56:46 ◼   ► troubleshoot the software, and then you get like, when you go into the input lists, it's

00:56:51 ◼   ► there three times. Why is it there three times? I have no idea, right? It's so much more complicated,

00:56:57 ◼   ► But then at the same time, the graphics quality that this thing outputs, Gray I've never seen

00:57:05 ◼   ► anything like it.

00:57:08 ◼   ► I can play everything on Ultra, all my graphics settings are automatically getting set to

00:57:13 ◼   ► Ultra on the games that I'm playing and it looks incredible.

00:57:18 ◼   ► And I today just opened up OBS, I turned on my streaming just to test it, done.

00:57:23 ◼   ► 1080p 60 frames a second, no problem.

00:57:26 ◼   ► It's a great thing to build your own PC and it's even better to do it in the modern

00:57:32 ◼   ► world where you then get to see graphics so beautiful they could make a grown man shed

00:57:38 ◼   ► a tear.

00:57:39 ◼   ► Because that's not something you're seeing on your standard Mac anytime soon.

00:57:48 ◼   ► I absolutely love it.

00:57:49 ◼   ► I've never generated more recycling in my life.

00:57:54 ◼   ► every one of those 17 boxes came in another box which had a bunch of packing paper in

00:57:59 ◼   ► it.

00:58:00 ◼   ► It's got to have the packing paper.

00:58:02 ◼   ► But I absolutely love it. I keep turning around and looking at it. It's awesome and I'm

00:58:08 ◼   ► so so so pleased that I did this.

00:58:11 ◼   ► So is this the start of Myke the live streamer?

00:58:15 ◼   ► Yeah, I think so. I mean, I play video games a bunch anyway and I'm trying to, you know,

00:58:22 ◼   ► I'm making playing video games more,

00:58:25 ◼   ► like especially publicly as a part of what I do

00:58:28 ◼   ► because I enjoy it and I like that experience.

00:58:31 ◼   ► And now I have incredible hardware

00:58:34 ◼   ► to help make it even easier.

00:58:35 ◼   ► So I'm gonna say this thing, I'm gonna say it before,

00:58:40 ◼   ► I'm gonna say it again, go listen to Playing For Fun

00:58:42 ◼   ► and subscribe to our Twitch channel,

00:58:46 ◼   ► which is Playing For Fun FM,

00:58:47 ◼   ► there'll be links in the show notes.

00:58:48 ◼   ► That's where you'll be seeing the majority

00:58:49 ◼   ► of my game streaming.

00:58:51 ◼   ► We better be able to see those LEDs while you're streaming.

00:58:54 ◼   ► - I'm gonna find a way to make that happen

00:58:57 ◼   ► 'cause this is a thing like people have asked us for this,

00:58:59 ◼   ► like you should have yourself in it.

00:59:01 ◼   ► And this is a thing that I just knew

00:59:02 ◼   ► I was never gonna be able to do with the Mac.

00:59:04 ◼   ► Like it was just never gonna be a thing

00:59:06 ◼   ► that I could make work like reliably.

00:59:09 ◼   ► But yeah, I'll set up a camera

00:59:11 ◼   ► and so I'll be on the stream too at some point.

00:59:13 ◼   ► That's like a thing that I will do.

00:59:16 ◼   ► - I don't think you heard me.

00:59:16 ◼   ► I didn't ask for you on the stream.

00:59:18 ◼   ► LED camera or GTFO.

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01:01:05 ◼   ► The next time that me and you are going to talk, we will be probably face to face again

01:01:13 ◼   ► for our WWDC discussion. We're both going to be at WWDC again this year.

01:01:18 ◼   ► Yeah, I mean, we might record in separate hotel rooms.

01:01:22 ◼   ► No, it worked great. It worked great last time. Everyone can see it because one year

01:01:26 ◼   ► later you published the vlog that you've been working on very hard for 365 days of work

01:01:34 ◼   ► on this project.

01:01:35 ◼   ► [laughter]

01:01:36 ◼   ► You make it sound so bad when you say it like that, Myke.

01:01:43 ◼   ► So you can go now and get ready for this year by watching last year and you see me. I'm

01:01:51 ◼   ► very honored to make a vocal appearance on your YouTube channel.

01:01:54 ◼   ► Yup, yup. There I am.

01:01:58 ◼   ► I did enjoy all the comments from people who briefly thought they had somehow missed this

01:02:02 ◼   ► year's WWDC when the video came out. They were like, "Holy hell, how did I..." Oh,

01:02:09 ◼   ► wait a minute. That's fantastic. That's really good.

01:02:12 ◼   ► Yeah, I enjoyed it. It's like, "Oh, I'm going to warp time through my vlog."

01:02:17 ◼   ► I think you made the right decision, because I'm assuming you haven't been working on

01:02:21 ◼   ► it for a year, but after six months you may as well wait twelve months.

01:02:24 ◼   ► Yeah, that's basically what it was. Yeah, I was essentially done with it in November,

01:02:33 ◼   ► but like I never had any intention to publish it quickly, like that was not the idea. And

01:02:39 ◼   ► it's just like a tinkering hobby kind of thing. So yeah, but it's like I was basically done

01:02:43 ◼   ► in November and then I didn't touch it until like the month before I was thinking like,

01:02:48 ◼   ► It's coming around again.

01:02:51 ◼   ► Let me actually get this all the way done and published."

01:02:54 ◼   ► Yeah, because I did sort of toy with the idea of putting it up in November or December,

01:02:59 ◼   ► but I thought like, "It just feels dumb.

01:03:01 ◼   ► Like it feels dumb to upload it in the winter."

01:03:03 ◼   ► And so I thought like, "I'll just wait a while longer."

01:03:05 ◼   ► And then after I put the dragon video up, I felt like, "Oh, this is a good time to

01:03:09 ◼   ► put up something, one, not super serious and two, not about death."

01:03:14 ◼   ► So that's why I put it up.

01:03:15 ◼   ► And I was like, "Oh, I'll put the vlog up now."

01:03:16 ◼   ► He's like, "Oh, I've been away for three or four months. Here's a vlog from last year!"

01:03:21 ◼   ► So you could go and watch that and you can see what our arrangement is. Just two guys sitting

01:03:30 ◼   ► around a hotel dining room table and we'll probably do the same again.

01:03:35 ◼   ► Yeah, with a million wires.

01:03:36 ◼   ► So many wires.

01:03:37 ◼   ► When you record in person, there's so many wires on that table. I didn't use it,

01:03:41 ◼   ► but there's an overhead shot that I had recorded of just what the table looks like because it's

01:03:45 ◼   ► It's crazy.

01:03:46 ◼   ► Like how many cables are running everywhere

01:03:49 ◼   ► when you need to record in person in a hotel room?

01:03:52 ◼   ► It's just like, ooh, it's a big spaghetti mess.

01:03:54 ◼   ► - But we got through, we made it through,

01:03:56 ◼   ► and we'll do it out again,

01:03:57 ◼   ► because that was vastly better than the year before

01:04:00 ◼   ► of us recording in the same hotel in separate rooms.

01:04:03 ◼   ► It was much better to sit and look at each other

01:04:07 ◼   ► in the eyes as we talk about computers.

01:04:09 ◼   ► - Okay, we'll do it in person.

01:04:11 ◼   ► - You said at the time,

01:04:12 ◼   ► And it was a really good point that you made

01:04:15 ◼   ► that 2017 felt like Apple's apology year,

01:04:19 ◼   ► where everybody got their thing.

01:04:22 ◼   ► They got the thing that they wanted, you know?

01:04:24 ◼   ► We got new iPads, there were new MacBook Pros,

01:04:28 ◼   ► there was the iMac Pro,

01:04:30 ◼   ► there was a bunch of different software enhancements

01:04:33 ◼   ► all across the board.

01:04:34 ◼   ► Everyone got their thing.

01:04:36 ◼   ► You know, like, oh, you want VR support on the Mac?

01:04:38 ◼   ► Well, we're working on that.

01:04:39 ◼   ► And if you want eGPU,

01:04:41 ◼   ► you want to have an external GPU,

01:04:42 ◼   ► oh, we're doing that.

01:04:43 ◼   ► Like stuff you never would have expected, they did a bunch.

01:04:47 ◼   ► So I am wondering if we can try and think about,

01:04:51 ◼   ► or maybe try and make some rough attempts

01:04:55 ◼   ► at trying to understand what we think 2018 will be.

01:04:59 ◼   ► If 2017 was the year of apologies,

01:05:02 ◼   ► what's 2018 going to be all about?

01:05:04 ◼   ► - Oh, I've got the name for 2018 already.

01:05:07 ◼   ► - Go on then.

01:05:08 ◼   ► - And, oh, okay, so it's going to sound like a joke,

01:05:11 ◼   ► but it's also a serious name.

01:05:13 ◼   ► So I think that 2018 for WWDC

01:05:18 ◼   ► is going to be the year of tumbleweeds.

01:05:23 ◼   ► I think it's going to be a very quiet WWDC

01:05:29 ◼   ► in terms of features and things.

01:05:34 ◼   ► It's gonna be pretty sparse up on that stage.

01:05:38 ◼   ► kind of like, was it iOS 10 that had messages?

01:05:43 ◼   ► - 2016.

01:05:45 ◼   ► - Yeah. - Yeah.

01:05:46 ◼   ► - 2016 was bad for me,

01:05:48 ◼   ► 'cause that was when we were doing our live show, right?

01:05:51 ◼   ► And I hadn't adequately planned for no content.

01:05:55 ◼   ► - Yeah, never again.

01:05:57 ◼   ► Obviously they didn't,

01:06:01 ◼   ► but I felt like Apple personally screwed me that year.

01:06:04 ◼   ► Like, oh, I'm gonna do something that's live

01:06:07 ◼   ► and there's nothing to talk about, well, they're not gonna fool me twice.

01:06:11 ◼   ► Here's the thing. I think it's going to be a tumbleweed year, but I am hoping

01:06:20 ◼   ► that that could actually be a good thing for this year's WWDC.

01:06:28 ◼   ► So that's kind of my thought for what the year might be. Do you agree?

01:06:31 ◼   ► Do you have a different perspective on it?

01:06:33 ◼   ► I thought that it was going to be completely tumbleweedy.

01:06:38 ◼   ► And then there'd been some rumors

01:06:40 ◼   ► about this project called Marzipan,

01:06:43 ◼   ► which was basically gonna become this way

01:06:46 ◼   ► to create iOS apps on the Mac effectively,

01:06:50 ◼   ► in the most simplistic terms.

01:06:52 ◼   ► But then there's been a lot of contradicting rumors

01:06:56 ◼   ► about like, yes, that's happening,

01:06:57 ◼   ► but do not expect it this year.

01:06:59 ◼   ► So now I am back on the,

01:07:01 ◼   ► yes, this is going to be a very quiet one this year.

01:07:04 ◼   ► In so much is that for all of the shows

01:07:06 ◼   ► that I'm going to be doing,

01:07:07 ◼   ► I'm already making some plans for backup content.

01:07:11 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah, I'd have backup content.

01:07:13 ◼   ► - Yes, don't worry.

01:07:14 ◼   ► - Keep it right in your courtility bag

01:07:16 ◼   ► so you can pull it out at any moment

01:07:17 ◼   ► when you're doing the show,

01:07:18 ◼   ► because you are going to need it.

01:07:20 ◼   ► - Because I did not make that plan in 2016

01:07:23 ◼   ► and it ended up being a problem for me.

01:07:26 ◼   ► But so this year I will not make them,

01:07:28 ◼   ► Fool me once, Apple.

01:07:30 ◼   ► So I'm just getting ready for that.

01:07:32 ◼   ► I don't think it's going to be nothing.

01:07:33 ◼   ► I think that there's going to be some interesting stuff, but it's not going to be like last

01:07:37 ◼   ► year and I think that it's going to be way more like 2016.

01:07:42 ◼   ► But this doesn't stop me from wanting things, no matter what I think.

01:07:48 ◼   ► And so I think that we both wanted to talk about some things that we hope to see, at

01:07:52 ◼   ► least, coming from WWDC this year.

01:07:55 ◼   ► And I would say for both of us, these are mostly like expectation managed things. Right?

01:08:04 ◼   ► Like I think that we both, I mean looking at the lists that we've got here and like

01:08:08 ◼   ► the things I know I want to talk about, I'm not going to mention stuff that like, "Oh,

01:08:12 ◼   ► I really want brand new iPadOS." Like, you know, I'm not being silly. Like I'm understanding

01:08:18 ◼   ► within the remit of what I think the year is going to be and kind of setting my expectations

01:08:22 ◼   ► even that way.

01:08:25 ◼   ► do you want to start like what kind of things are you hoping to see?

01:08:28 ◼   ► Yeah, I do want to start because

01:08:32 ◼   ► there's really one thing that listeners of the show will know for me has been

01:08:41 ◼   ► just a really long standing deep frustration with iOS in particular that I really hope

01:08:54 ◼   ► will be addressed this year.

01:08:56 ◼   ► I think there may be good reason

01:08:58 ◼   ► it might be addressed this year.

01:09:00 ◼   ► And while we are trying to manage our expectations,

01:09:04 ◼   ► I think I might flip out a little bit

01:09:08 ◼   ► if it's not done this year.

01:09:11 ◼   ► And that is improvements to the notifications

01:09:16 ◼   ► and the Do Not Disturb system on iOS.

01:09:20 ◼   ► Like if there is one thing that is the biggest source

01:09:24 ◼   ► of frustration over many years for me,

01:09:27 ◼   ► it is this combination of two things and how they interact.

01:09:32 ◼   ► And it's just deeply inadequate,

01:09:37 ◼   ► it's buggy, it's poorly designed, it's very frustrating.

01:09:43 ◼   ► And I remember the first WWDC

01:09:47 ◼   ► after the Apple Watch came out,

01:09:49 ◼   ► you and I were so confident

01:09:52 ◼   ► that that was going to be the time

01:09:54 ◼   ► Apple was obviously going to rework

01:09:56 ◼   ► how their notifications and do not disturb system work.

01:09:59 ◼   ► We're like, oh, obviously once you own an Apple Watch,

01:10:02 ◼   ► it makes so clear all the limitations of the system

01:10:07 ◼   ► and how it isn't good.

01:10:08 ◼   ► And they must have just been waiting

01:10:10 ◼   ► until the Apple Watch came out to do it.

01:10:12 ◼   ► And we were like, 100%, this is going to be fixed

01:10:15 ◼   ► and improved and here we are like four years later

01:10:18 ◼   ► and there has been nothing.

01:10:20 ◼   ► If anything, it has arguably gotten worse over time.

01:10:23 ◼   ► - It has categorically gotten worse.

01:10:24 ◼   ► There is no argument.

01:10:25 ◼   ► Like they removed the application sorting,

01:10:28 ◼   ► so everything's just in one huge messy list.

01:10:30 ◼   ► It's terrible.

01:10:31 ◼   ► - Yeah, it's absolutely terrible.

01:10:33 ◼   ► And I was trying to put my finger on

01:10:36 ◼   ► like how to summarize one of the frustrations

01:10:40 ◼   ► that I have in particular.

01:10:41 ◼   ► And I realized a lot of it comes from like,

01:10:44 ◼   ► even the way do not disturb works,

01:10:47 ◼   ► I realized this is a system that is designed for meetings,

01:10:52 ◼   ► for someone who's going to a business meeting.

01:10:59 ◼   ► And it's like, while I am in my business meeting,

01:11:02 ◼   ► I want the phone to just be silent in my pocket.

01:11:05 ◼   ► And then when the business meeting is over,

01:11:07 ◼   ► I'm going to go back to regular life.

01:11:09 ◼   ► - I would also throw in there sleeping.

01:11:12 ◼   ► I think it's for those two things, meetings and sleeping.

01:11:15 ◼   ► - Yeah, meeting and sleeping, right?

01:11:16 ◼   ► But it's like you have almost functionally turned

01:11:19 ◼   ► the phone off in a sense.

01:11:22 ◼   ► That's how it will act.

01:11:25 ◼   ► And people just use their phones for so much,

01:11:30 ◼   ► it's crazy to me that there's really only one level here

01:11:34 ◼   ► where it's like nothing or everything.

01:11:38 ◼   ► And I mean, this is a case where it's like,

01:11:42 ◼   ► if you've ever seen someone have an Android phone

01:11:43 ◼   ► and show you what their notification

01:11:45 ◼   ► and Do Not Disturb stuff can do,

01:11:47 ◼   ► it makes Apple just look,

01:11:50 ◼   ► it makes it look like they are 10 years behind

01:11:53 ◼   ► and still doing the first thing

01:11:55 ◼   ► that a guy suggested in a meeting.

01:11:57 ◼   ► And they've never rethought it since then.

01:12:00 ◼   ► And they added one thing,

01:12:02 ◼   ► which is Do Not Disturb while driving,

01:12:04 ◼   ► which frankly feels like that thing

01:12:07 ◼   ► that they touted as a big feature

01:12:08 ◼   ► was somebody's like weekend project

01:12:10 ◼   ► that they did as a passion project at Apple.

01:12:12 ◼   ► And they're like, "Oh, I have the code."

01:12:13 ◼   ► So that if you're connected to the Bluetooth of your car,

01:12:15 ◼   ► it turns on do not disturb.

01:12:16 ◼   ► Oh great, we can pull that in really easily.

01:12:18 ◼   ► One of the things that I'm very aware of is I feel like

01:12:21 ◼   ► do not disturb, it's this concept of I want the phone

01:12:25 ◼   ► to not disturb me, I want my iPad to not disturb me.

01:12:30 ◼   ► And one of the things that means is the way their system

01:12:33 ◼   ► currently works is you can be doing something like

01:12:36 ◼   ► I have do not disturb on on the phone

01:12:39 ◼   ► and I'm reading a book, but because the phone is like,

01:12:43 ◼   ► oh, but you're on and looking at the screen,

01:12:44 ◼   ► Like it'll let some notifications roll right through.

01:12:46 ◼   ► And it's like, maybe that's not what I want right now.

01:12:49 ◼   ► Like I don't want this idea that the phone is off or on.

01:12:52 ◼   ► You can stop that, but then it's just, it's another binary.

01:12:56 ◼   ► So you can either have it show nothing when it's unlocked or still show you notifications

01:13:01 ◼   ► when it's unlocked.

01:13:02 ◼   ► But like, it's still just a binary off or on, which is still not, it's not enough for

01:13:07 ◼   ► this.

01:13:08 ◼   ► This is like an area where you can allow granularity.

01:13:11 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:13:12 ◼   ► You have to allow granularity.

01:13:15 ◼   ► It's the number one thing,

01:13:18 ◼   ► I mentally make this distinction between

01:13:21 ◼   ► notifications that are internal to the phone,

01:13:24 ◼   ► like things that I have set up to help my life run,

01:13:27 ◼   ► and then the external world,

01:13:29 ◼   ► and I make a mental distinction between those things.

01:13:33 ◼   ► Everybody's gonna use their phones differently.

01:13:36 ◼   ► Everybody's going to want different kinds of things

01:13:38 ◼   ► for when they want to be disturbed,

01:13:41 ◼   ► who they want to be.

01:13:42 ◼   ► Like it's still crazy to me that you can't have

01:13:45 ◼   ► like meaningful separations of your iMessages.

01:13:48 ◼   ► Like everybody is just the same level of notification

01:13:51 ◼   ► on iMessage, which is nuts.

01:13:53 ◼   ► It's the real, it's the thing that for me

01:13:57 ◼   ► is the real biggest genuine frustration with the device

01:14:01 ◼   ► that it's mind blowing to me that it has been able

01:14:04 ◼   ► to linger in this state for as long as it has.

01:14:07 ◼   ► And I'm hoping because this year is really the year

01:14:11 ◼   ► where all of the companies are feeling this pressure

01:14:16 ◼   ► about how we use our devices

01:14:18 ◼   ► and how humans manage their attention

01:14:20 ◼   ► that even if Apple wasn't in January

01:14:24 ◼   ► planning to do this at all,

01:14:26 ◼   ► that two months ago they realized

01:14:28 ◼   ► if we are the only company that doesn't announce this,

01:14:31 ◼   ► it looks bad.

01:14:32 ◼   ► Because Apple should have been the first to this.

01:14:35 ◼   ► - Especially 'cause they're the ones under fire.

01:14:37 ◼   ► Like they're the ones that the media focuses

01:14:40 ◼   ► their attention on when talking about this stuff.

01:14:42 ◼   ► That like it's the iPhone that's ruining

01:14:45 ◼   ► the way that people live their lives.

01:14:47 ◼   ► - And it's like it's so directly in Apple's wheelhouse

01:14:51 ◼   ► and like it's crazy making to see Google give a presentation

01:14:55 ◼   ► where they're like, we really care about how the phone

01:14:57 ◼   ► steals your attention away and we have all of these tools

01:14:59 ◼   ► so you can manage your notifications.

01:15:01 ◼   ► And like, and it's like Apple should have been the one

01:15:04 ◼   ► to do that years ago.

01:15:05 ◼   ► Like if you had to pick which of the major companies

01:15:09 ◼   ► is gonna be the most concerned about how your phone

01:15:11 ◼   ► steals your attention away,

01:15:12 ◼   ► it's like clearly it should have been Apple.

01:15:15 ◼   ► So that's why I feel like I kind of can reasonably hope for

01:15:20 ◼   ► and expect this because it's not just a personal desire,

01:15:25 ◼   ► but it's also peer pressure from other companies

01:15:28 ◼   ► that like you really have to have something cobbled together

01:15:31 ◼   ► for this, otherwise it's gonna look terrible

01:15:33 ◼   ► that you still have your useless, useless, useless notification and do not disturb system.

01:15:40 ◼   ► So that is like, in many ways, that is my number one by a factor of 10 thing for WWDC

01:15:50 ◼   ► and everything else is like, oh, stuff I've thought about and that I like, but that is

01:15:53 ◼   ► the one that if it's not there for me, I'll really feel like, oh God, not another year

01:15:58 ◼   ► of this nonsense.

01:15:59 ◼   ► - Yeah, I am in complete agreement with you.

01:16:01 ◼   ► I've wanted this for a while anyway,

01:16:03 ◼   ► and I've been making some changes to my setup recently

01:16:07 ◼   ► where I'm not using Do Not Disturb

01:16:09 ◼   ► as heavily as I have had in the past,

01:16:12 ◼   ► and I am mostly unhappy with the way that Do Not Disturb

01:16:16 ◼   ► means that literally every single notification

01:16:19 ◼   ► can come through unless I go in and turn them all off,

01:16:22 ◼   ► but that isn't what I always wanna do.

01:16:23 ◼   ► I don't want them all off all the time.

01:16:25 ◼   ► I just want some of them off some of the time.

01:16:27 ◼   ► And devices being more aware of each other

01:16:31 ◼   ► and how affecting one thing on one device

01:16:32 ◼   ► should affect things on another device.

01:16:34 ◼   ► Like this is stuff that they should be working on.

01:16:37 ◼   ► And really, I mean,

01:16:39 ◼   ► I roll my eyes at a lot of the type of discussion

01:16:44 ◼   ► around some of this stuff,

01:16:47 ◼   ► but Apple 100% should be doing something better

01:16:52 ◼   ► with notifications and how certain companies

01:16:55 ◼   ► can send things to me.

01:16:56 ◼   ► And I don't think that this should be 100% on me

01:17:01 ◼   ► as an individual to go in and turn everything on and off.

01:17:04 ◼   ► I would really like like tiers of importance, you know?

01:17:07 ◼   ► Like maybe I'll get a notification from a game,

01:17:09 ◼   ► but it shouldn't be giving me a banner.

01:17:11 ◼   ► And I shouldn't be the one that has to like go in

01:17:13 ◼   ► and manually change all of that.

01:17:15 ◼   ► Like there should be way better management

01:17:17 ◼   ► of the way that applications are allowed

01:17:20 ◼   ► to get in contact with me.

01:17:21 ◼   ► And there should be way more based upon the intent,

01:17:24 ◼   ► like, you know, how you mentioning

01:17:26 ◼   ► that they should be like a prioritization, I think,

01:17:28 ◼   ► with certain applications, certain types of applications.

01:17:32 ◼   ► And I think this is well within their power

01:17:34 ◼   ► to do something like this.

01:17:36 ◼   ► Notifications from Apple have been mostly the same

01:17:41 ◼   ► since they've been introduced in like iOS 4.

01:17:43 ◼   ► They have really, really done a bad job of this.

01:17:46 ◼   ► And I think the reason that they are coming under fire

01:17:49 ◼   ► is because they brought this in and they just left it alone.

01:17:52 ◼   ► And it's really time that they need to do this.

01:17:54 ◼   ► this needs a big, big overhaul.

01:17:56 ◼   ► And this is the perfect year for it

01:17:57 ◼   ► because Google just basically stood on stage

01:18:00 ◼   ► and made a huge song and dance about this at Google I/O,

01:18:03 ◼   ► about the way that they're thinking about,

01:18:06 ◼   ► the way that people use their devices

01:18:07 ◼   ► and their digital wellbeing and stuff like that.

01:18:09 ◼   ► I mean, that notification stuff is already really good

01:18:12 ◼   ► and they're adding even more do not disturb features

01:18:14 ◼   ► and stuff like that.

01:18:15 ◼   ► - Even if Google hadn't announced anything new,

01:18:20 ◼   ► they still feel like they're light years

01:18:22 ◼   ► beyond Apple's system, right?

01:18:24 ◼   ► You know, as it currently stands

01:18:26 ◼   ► before even any of their new stuff rolls out.

01:18:29 ◼   ► So that's why it's like,

01:18:30 ◼   ► if Apple could even get to where Google was on this,

01:18:35 ◼   ► I'd be thrilled.

01:18:36 ◼   ► But I also just find it interesting that, you know,

01:18:40 ◼   ► you and I use our devices in very different ways.

01:18:43 ◼   ► And for both of us, this is a huge issue.

01:18:47 ◼   ► And we're on the extreme ends of this.

01:18:49 ◼   ► We're like, you get a lot of notifications

01:18:51 ◼   ► and I'm always trying to pare down

01:18:54 ◼   ► to the minimum viable number of notifications.

01:18:57 ◼   ► And on both ends of the spectrum,

01:18:59 ◼   ► we're like, this system is useless.

01:19:01 ◼   ► - Because it's not good for anyone.

01:19:03 ◼   ► It's not built for any human being.

01:19:05 ◼   ► Because it is built for 2008 or whatever, 2010.

01:19:10 ◼   ► It's not built for 2018 and that's what they need to do.

01:19:14 ◼   ► I would like to see new iPad hardware.

01:19:18 ◼   ► I don't expect we're gonna get a lot

01:19:21 ◼   ► in the front of iPad software this year,

01:19:23 ◼   ► and I am happy to make the trade off of,

01:19:25 ◼   ► we get big iPad enhancements every two years,

01:19:28 ◼   ► as long as the hardware keeps getting better.

01:19:30 ◼   ► - Do you mean like an alternating schedule

01:19:32 ◼   ► where each year you're getting software or hardware?

01:19:35 ◼   ► Like is that what you mean?

01:19:37 ◼   ► - I am happy with that, but they need to get into that.

01:19:40 ◼   ► I mean, you know, this would be new hardware

01:19:42 ◼   ► two years in a row, but the hardware

01:19:44 ◼   ► had gotten really old before that point.

01:19:46 ◼   ► So, but like I would be happy if they started this year

01:19:49 ◼   ► with hardware this year, no software.

01:19:51 ◼   ► Next year, software and no hardware.

01:19:53 ◼   ► And I would be happy with that going forward.

01:19:56 ◼   ► I would like to see bug fixes for certain things

01:19:59 ◼   ► and some things cleaned up here and there,

01:20:01 ◼   ► but I would like new iPad hardware.

01:20:03 ◼   ► I want new cases and thinner bezels and face ID

01:20:06 ◼   ► and all that kind of stuff.

01:20:07 ◼   ► That's what I'm looking for.

01:20:09 ◼   ► And that's something that I really hope that they do.

01:20:11 ◼   ► And there isn't really much in the way of supporting this,

01:20:15 ◼   ► but I do genuinely believe

01:20:17 ◼   ► that we will see new iPad hardware on stage.

01:20:20 ◼   ► - My next biggest one is going to be,

01:20:25 ◼   ► there are many things that I could say here,

01:20:27 ◼   ► but I'll just put it under this category of improvements

01:20:31 ◼   ► to the Apple Watch software,

01:20:34 ◼   ► because this is an area where,

01:20:37 ◼   ► not remotely as bad as notifications,

01:20:39 ◼   ► but I feel very much that Apple released WatchOS,

01:20:44 ◼   ► They did a redesign in watchOS 2,

01:20:47 ◼   ► and from watchOS 2 until watchOS 4,

01:20:50 ◼   ► I couldn't tell you anything of significance

01:20:53 ◼   ► that has changed.

01:20:54 ◼   ► And I feel like it's like this is the year

01:20:59 ◼   ► where maybe we could have some updates to this,

01:21:03 ◼   ► some features that could be added,

01:21:05 ◼   ► like more customizability with watch faces.

01:21:08 ◼   ► I'd really love to see that.

01:21:09 ◼   ► And I'm kind of hoping for it

01:21:12 ◼   ► because if I was a betting man,

01:21:15 ◼   ► I would say that this might be the year

01:21:18 ◼   ► that Apple does something different

01:21:20 ◼   ► with the physical design of the Apple Watch,

01:21:23 ◼   ► because I feel like last year

01:21:24 ◼   ► they got the cell radio into it.

01:21:26 ◼   ► And so then that feels like, okay,

01:21:27 ◼   ► the Apple Watch is a complete device.

01:21:29 ◼   ► And now Apple can maybe start their endless obsession

01:21:34 ◼   ► with thinness and smallness or change the case.

01:21:36 ◼   ► And so I'm kind of hoping like,

01:21:38 ◼   ► maybe there's a big rework of watch OS along with a new design released later in the year.

01:21:46 ◼   ► So I feel like if they if there's big changes in watch OS, that might be a good sign that

01:21:51 ◼   ► there's also going to be changes in the look of the Apple watch this year. And I feel like

01:21:56 ◼   ► if I had to bet this feels like it's the year to do it if they're going to do it anytime

01:21:59 ◼   ► soon.

01:22:00 ◼   ► Every year there is a there's something that happens at WWDC where you can look at it and

01:22:05 ◼   ► it seems out of place. Like when they introduced what was called size classes.

01:22:12 ◼   ► Yeah, size classes.

01:22:14 ◼   ► Like iPhone apps could be a larger size, you know, like, oh, maybe you should not think

01:22:20 ◼   ► about these in exact dimensions, but in kind of like pie in the sky dimensions. And what

01:22:25 ◼   ► that meant was a bigger phone was coming and it didn't make sense with what was currently

01:22:30 ◼   ► available at that time, but everybody could go, ah, there's your confirmation of a bigger

01:22:33 ◼   ► And I expect that there will be something in watchOS 5

01:22:38 ◼   ► that doesn't make sense with the current Apple Watch so much,

01:22:42 ◼   ► but will make way more sense if you're thinking about it

01:22:45 ◼   ► as what will the future of the Apple Watch look like.

01:22:47 ◼   ► - Yeah, or again, like,

01:22:49 ◼   ► always hold out for more customizable watch faces.

01:22:52 ◼   ► I feel like that is still the biggest thing

01:22:54 ◼   ► that's holding the Apple Watch back.

01:22:57 ◼   ► And, you know, no matter how great of a designer

01:23:02 ◼   ► Johnny Ive may think he is with watches.

01:23:06 ◼   ► People get bored simply with having to look

01:23:09 ◼   ► at the exact same thing for four years.

01:23:12 ◼   ► And it's like at the very least from a fashion perspective,

01:23:15 ◼   ► like can we get some more genuinely customizable options

01:23:19 ◼   ► on the Apple Watch?

01:23:20 ◼   ► I feel like that's really holding it back.

01:23:22 ◼   ► And I'd love to see the ability to, you know,

01:23:26 ◼   ► let the software express the capabilities of this device,

01:23:30 ◼   ► of this device because it feels like of any product that I own, the Apple Watch by far

01:23:36 ◼   ► feels like it's the one that is most hobbled by its software limitations versus its hardware.

01:23:42 ◼   ► And so that's why it's like, man, I'd really love to see some improvements here. What else

01:23:45 ◼   ► are you looking for, Myke?

01:23:47 ◼   ► About a year ago, Apple bought the team that makes one of our favorite iOS apps, Workflow,

01:23:53 ◼   ► which is the app that allows for automation on iOS by chaining actions together from apps

01:23:59 ◼   ► to apps and with web APIs.

01:24:01 ◼   ► Use it every day, dozens and dozens of times a day.

01:24:04 ◼   ► And it's not dead, we were worried it was going to be dead.

01:24:08 ◼   ► They have not been updating it, it was many large features that they had in the past,

01:24:11 ◼   ► right?

01:24:12 ◼   ► There's not been like huge updates, but they have been improving it and making bug fixes

01:24:16 ◼   ► and doing little things here and there.

01:24:18 ◼   ► I would love to see this year, why did Apple buy Workflow?

01:24:24 ◼   ► Yeah, yeah, that's very good.

01:24:27 ◼   ► something. I want to see something where I can point at it and be like "ah there it

01:24:32 ◼   ► is" and what my hope is is that like inbuilt into the system a bunch of

01:24:37 ◼   ► different ways to have applications interact with each other like some kind

01:24:41 ◼   ► of scripting some kind of like really easy to use because like customizable

01:24:46 ◼   ► things that you can do. I can very easily see this tie into something like Do Not

01:24:51 ◼   ► Disturb where you're dragging around certain chains of items to be like this

01:24:55 ◼   ► is good but this is not good and you know like if then statements and stuff like that.

01:25:00 ◼   ► I would really like to see a lot of that stuff find its way into iOS.

01:25:03 ◼   ► Wow, I never even dreamed of something like workflow plus notifications plus do not disturb.

01:25:08 ◼   ► It's like oh wow that would be that would be just like all my dreams come true.

01:25:12 ◼   ► I never thought of it until I just said it and now I'm convinced that's what they're

01:25:16 ◼   ► working on.

01:25:17 ◼   ► Yeah, it's like man I can't wait to drop a bubble that that says like iMessages but not

01:25:22 ◼   ► on Thursdays between three and six.

01:25:24 ◼   ► - Yeah.

01:25:25 ◼   ► - Oh God, that'd be wonderful.

01:25:26 ◼   ► But whatever it is, I wanna see some idea

01:25:31 ◼   ► as to why Apple thought it was important to hire this team.

01:25:34 ◼   ► And even more so, to let the workflow app

01:25:38 ◼   ► continue to be an app that exists.

01:25:40 ◼   ► - Yeah, I agree.

01:25:42 ◼   ► I think that that's a really good one.

01:25:43 ◼   ► That's a really interesting one.

01:25:46 ◼   ► Yeah, and I too would be very happy

01:25:49 ◼   ► to see something like that.

01:25:50 ◼   ► Instead of the workflow team just,

01:25:52 ◼   ► you know, their man hours getting absorbed

01:25:54 ◼   ► into the behemoth that is Apple

01:25:55 ◼   ► and then never having any idea why they're there

01:25:57 ◼   ► or not seeing any clear improvements.

01:26:00 ◼   ► All right, now I have something a little bit different

01:26:03 ◼   ► for something else that I would like to see at WWDC.

01:26:06 ◼   ► Now, I will say upfront,

01:26:08 ◼   ► this will never happen in a million years,

01:26:11 ◼   ► but I would love to see it.

01:26:13 ◼   ► - This is what this section's all about, right?

01:26:15 ◼   ► Like, we can just talk about some stuff.

01:26:18 ◼   ► It might happen, it might not, but at least we said it.

01:26:20 ◼   ► So then if it does, we look like geniuses.

01:26:23 ◼   ► - Yeah, so I want to see Apple kill the touch bar.

01:26:28 ◼   ► I really strongly think that the touch bar

01:26:35 ◼   ► on the MacBook Pros is a total dead end

01:26:39 ◼   ► and a total waste of developer time and attention.

01:26:43 ◼   ► - So here's the thing, I think it will happen.

01:26:46 ◼   ► I think that will happen.

01:26:47 ◼   ► I don't know if it's gonna be this year,

01:26:48 ◼   ► it might be the year after,

01:26:50 ◼   ► But I think that it is very clear at this point

01:26:52 ◼   ► that that piece of technology will not break outside

01:26:57 ◼   ► of the MacBook Pro.

01:26:59 ◼   ► I think that they have not put a lot of effort into it

01:27:01 ◼   ► since it came out.

01:27:03 ◼   ► Part of its existence is for Touch ID,

01:27:05 ◼   ► but Touch ID has already been replaced.

01:27:07 ◼   ► - Oh yeah, yeah.

01:27:08 ◼   ► - I understand why you would say like,

01:27:10 ◼   ► oh, we don't think,

01:27:11 ◼   ► I don't think they're gonna get rid of this.

01:27:12 ◼   ► I think that they will.

01:27:13 ◼   ► - Okay, so now what I mean here though is,

01:27:18 ◼   ► You know, it's like, what you don't want is,

01:27:22 ◼   ► when something is in pain,

01:27:25 ◼   ► you don't want it to linger around, right?

01:27:27 ◼   ► You want a nice, clean end.

01:27:31 ◼   ► And so I think a bad thing to do

01:27:33 ◼   ► is to just have it linger in that way,

01:27:37 ◼   ► and to have it be a thing that's just sort of there,

01:27:41 ◼   ► and they don't put a lot of effort into it.

01:27:43 ◼   ► So the main functionality it provides me

01:27:46 ◼   ► is when it crashes as I try to change the volume

01:27:48 ◼   ► on my computer and then the volume buttons don't work

01:27:51 ◼   ► until I reboot the machine.

01:27:52 ◼   ► I really think, like they don't need to say it on stage,

01:28:00 ◼   ► but what would fill my heart with joy is if Apple said,

01:28:04 ◼   ► you know, as a pure crowd-pleasing moment, they said,

01:28:06 ◼   ► "Hey, we have new MacBook Pros this year

01:28:07 ◼   ► "for all the developers in the audience."

01:28:09 ◼   ► And when they show them on screen, there's no touch bar.

01:28:13 ◼   ► and we can just move right past that.

01:28:17 ◼   ► - I actually think that they've walked into

01:28:19 ◼   ► an easy way to get rid of this thing.

01:28:22 ◼   ► There is a lot of consternation right now

01:28:25 ◼   ► about the quality and reliability

01:28:28 ◼   ► of the keyboards on the MacBook Pro.

01:28:30 ◼   ► There are lots of problems,

01:28:31 ◼   ► and it's kicking up quite a bit of dust

01:28:36 ◼   ► in kind of the enthusiast industry.

01:28:39 ◼   ► Like people were very upset at these keyboards.

01:28:41 ◼   ► I literally had one break on me this morning.

01:28:43 ◼   ► - There you go.

01:28:44 ◼   ► - Getting ready for the show.

01:28:45 ◼   ► I had a key break this morning while I was getting ready

01:28:47 ◼   ► on my adorable.

01:28:48 ◼   ► I was like, oh, here we go.

01:28:50 ◼   ► - So I think that whenever they get ready

01:28:53 ◼   ► to show off the new keyboard,

01:28:54 ◼   ► 'cause they have to be working on a new keyboard

01:28:56 ◼   ► at this point, they just show it off like,

01:28:58 ◼   ► and we've made this wonderful new keyboard that does this,

01:29:01 ◼   ► and it does this, and it does this,

01:29:02 ◼   ► and the touch bar's just gone.

01:29:04 ◼   ► Like it's just gone.

01:29:05 ◼   ► And you don't ever pay attention to it,

01:29:08 ◼   ► or they don't need to call it out

01:29:10 ◼   ► because they have a new keyboard and the touch bar is part of the keyboard. The keyboard

01:29:15 ◼   ► is all new and it's amazing because of this and as part of that new keyboard is no touch

01:29:19 ◼   ► bar. Job done. And they fly away into the ether and oh by the way we had a face ID.

01:29:24 ◼   ► Right like and then that's it.

01:29:26 ◼   ► I didn't I didn't think of connecting those two dots but yeah you're right they do have

01:29:31 ◼   ► a way to walk out of it which is to be able to talk about their amazing new keyboard.

01:29:35 ◼   ► Right because they could just be like we had to go back to the drawing board and completely

01:29:39 ◼   ► re-engineer what the keyboard means for the MacBook Pro. That's how I would do it if I

01:29:43 ◼   ► was in that situation. Because you have this perfect out for both things, like where you

01:29:48 ◼   ► kind of hint at but don't particularly, like you put all of the blame on the touch bar,

01:29:55 ◼   ► right? By like, oh we had to go back to the drawing board because of that darn touch bar,

01:29:59 ◼   ► nothing to do with it, right? But like you're like, oh you scamp, you ruin the keyboard for

01:30:04 ◼   ► everyone right and even though like the same problems exist even on the max

01:30:09 ◼   ► about the touch bar but they have the new right but you can like my adorable

01:30:13 ◼   ► like my I have a MacBook Pro I was using it a couple of days ago and two of the

01:30:18 ◼   ► keys started clicking in a very strange way that's the beginning of the end

01:30:23 ◼   ► right there but I use it only like twice every year so I can stretch that thing

01:30:27 ◼   ► out that's I think that's a that is a genius marketing move there that Apple

01:30:33 ◼   ► if you're listening, you should totally take that one.

01:30:35 ◼   ► That's the way to talk about it.

01:30:36 ◼   ► - Just rewrote some of the keynote slides, there you go.

01:30:38 ◼   ► You can take that one for free.

01:30:40 ◼   ► - Some guy's crossing out the picture

01:30:42 ◼   ► of their new MacBook Pros with touch bars.

01:30:44 ◼   ► No MacBook Pro and then is like,

01:30:45 ◼   ► quick, we gotta add some do not disturb slides.

01:30:47 ◼   ► Ah, all right, add it in, add it in.

01:30:50 ◼   ► - All you need to do is just in the keynote,

01:30:52 ◼   ► say the word banana and we will know, right?

01:30:55 ◼   ► Did you say banana and we'll know,

01:30:57 ◼   ► so all you need to give us is a thanks.

01:30:59 ◼   ► - Good, I like that, I like that.

01:31:02 ◼   ► So to go back, like why do I think it's the year of tumbleweeds,

01:31:05 ◼   ► even though we've been discussing all these things that we want, is there was,

01:31:11 ◼   ► it was, I can't remember if it was a leaked memo or it was a rumor that Apple

01:31:14 ◼   ► is,

01:31:15 ◼   ► is switching to this longer two year schedule for thinking about

01:31:19 ◼   ► features in each of the operating system releases.

01:31:22 ◼   ► It was kind of a bit of both. It was apparently, um,

01:31:26 ◼   ► an internal meeting that, that the,

01:31:29 ◼   ► the topic of which made it to outside.

01:31:33 ◼   ► - Right.

01:31:35 ◼   ► So, years and years ago,

01:31:39 ◼   ► when Apple switched to the yearly schedule,

01:31:41 ◼   ► I remember thinking at that time,

01:31:43 ◼   ► like, oh, I don't think this is a good idea.

01:31:46 ◼   ► It will surprise no one who follows my work

01:31:49 ◼   ► to know that I do not think that schedules

01:31:53 ◼   ► make things better.

01:31:54 ◼   ► I think there's a way that schedules

01:31:56 ◼   ► can really make things worse,

01:31:58 ◼   ► because then it becomes about the work meeting the schedule

01:32:02 ◼   ► as opposed to other things.

01:32:04 ◼   ► And I always really liked that Apple had new versions

01:32:07 ◼   ► of macOS when it was ready.

01:32:10 ◼   ► And sometimes it would be big

01:32:12 ◼   ► and sometimes it would be small,

01:32:14 ◼   ► but it wasn't on a regular schedule.

01:32:16 ◼   ► And I always thought like, oh, that's why it's so good

01:32:18 ◼   ► because they're not under this,

01:32:19 ◼   ► and they're like, oh, we're gonna have macOS

01:32:21 ◼   ► on an annual schedule.

01:32:22 ◼   ► I was like, oh no.

01:32:24 ◼   ► And the Apple of now is a very different company

01:32:28 ◼   ► from the Apple of 10 years ago.

01:32:31 ◼   ► And I don't think it would be possible for them to switch

01:32:34 ◼   ► to a no schedule system anymore.

01:32:38 ◼   ► That's just out of the question.

01:32:39 ◼   ► But the idea that they're going to expand their horizon

01:32:45 ◼   ► to like projects can take two years

01:32:48 ◼   ► as opposed to taking one year.

01:32:51 ◼   ► And that if you building for that,

01:32:53 ◼   ► It allows them to change the scope

01:32:57 ◼   ► of what's going to happen in any particular year

01:32:59 ◼   ► and move things back more easily.

01:33:01 ◼   ► And you can see how organizationally

01:33:03 ◼   ► you can make it less of a disaster

01:33:05 ◼   ► if things have to get pushed back for two years,

01:33:08 ◼   ► if you're already thinking on a two year timeline.

01:33:11 ◼   ► And I really hope that this is something

01:33:14 ◼   ► that Apple is deeply internalizing

01:33:17 ◼   ► because there have been some of the strangest,

01:33:21 ◼   ► weirdest bugs, particularly on my iOS devices,

01:33:24 ◼   ► this last round.

01:33:26 ◼   ► And like, I have an example.

01:33:31 ◼   ► I had like the weirdest personal bug,

01:33:34 ◼   ► which also to me feels like a real disaster of a bug,

01:33:37 ◼   ► something that hits something that is so core

01:33:40 ◼   ► that this should never happen.

01:33:41 ◼   ► But Myke, you know how sometimes I travel

01:33:44 ◼   ► and I want to stay on gray master time.

01:33:47 ◼   ► - Yeah. - I don't want to change.

01:33:49 ◼   ► This is a thing that's become a semi-regular part of my life in travel.

01:33:52 ◼   ► But guess what?

01:33:55 ◼   ► Ever since the latest version of iOS,

01:33:59 ◼   ► when I go into my phone, I press the switch to say phone,

01:34:04 ◼   ► stay on London time. Don't,

01:34:07 ◼   ► don't switch to West coast time because I am going to live my life on London

01:34:12 ◼   ► time. Well, whenever I fly,

01:34:16 ◼   ► guaranteed the phone switches that setting back randomly

01:34:21 ◼   ► at random points in time.

01:34:23 ◼   ► And that's the kind of bug that it feels like

01:34:26 ◼   ► it's so core to the system,

01:34:28 ◼   ► like something is screwing with how the phone

01:34:30 ◼   ► keeps track of time.

01:34:31 ◼   ► - Yeah.

01:34:32 ◼   ► - And it's flipping a preference switch back

01:34:36 ◼   ► when I'm not looking.

01:34:38 ◼   ► And everybody has something like that where,

01:34:43 ◼   ► Obviously what I'm doing is a weird edge case,

01:34:46 ◼   ► but it shouldn't happen.

01:34:47 ◼   ► And I know too many people with too many weird edge cases.

01:34:52 ◼   ► And so I feel like I'm very happy

01:34:54 ◼   ► if Apple takes a slower approach and says,

01:34:58 ◼   ► okay, it was gonna be like,

01:34:59 ◼   ► we're gonna spread stuff out over two years.

01:35:02 ◼   ► We're gonna make sure that stuff is more baked

01:35:05 ◼   ► before it ships.

01:35:07 ◼   ► But what that does mean is the first time you switch

01:35:10 ◼   ► to a two yearly schedule, the very first year,

01:35:14 ◼   ► it's going to have to be a quieter year.

01:35:17 ◼   ► And so if this WWDC is tumbleweedy,

01:35:21 ◼   ► they come in like, do not disturb

01:35:23 ◼   ► but notifications is their big, we can show you feature.

01:35:25 ◼   ► And then there's like, maybe not a whole lot more.

01:35:29 ◼   ► I will actually, I will do my best to internalize that

01:35:33 ◼   ► as a good sign that Apple is going to try to

01:35:37 ◼   ► have a longer time horizon and let things more fully bake

01:35:41 ◼   ► before they get shipped out.

01:35:43 ◼   ► - I just had a thought that I haven't heard anybody say,

01:35:48 ◼   ► and it seems obvious to me now that I'm thinking it.

01:35:51 ◼   ► Something doesn't have to be done for you to show it.

01:35:56 ◼   ► And if they wanna say that they're moving

01:36:00 ◼   ► to a longer development schedule,

01:36:04 ◼   ► They don't have to then not show anything.

01:36:08 ◼   ► Like, we're very used to them showing us in June

01:36:12 ◼   ► what's gonna ship in September,

01:36:13 ◼   ► but they could show us in June what's gonna ship in March.

01:36:17 ◼   ► - Possibly.

01:36:18 ◼   ► I mean, I think there's, if I was advising Apple,

01:36:22 ◼   ► I would probably tell them not to do that.

01:36:23 ◼   ► I would take the PR hit on a quiet year, but it's possible.

01:36:26 ◼   ► - They do this anyway, right?

01:36:28 ◼   ► Where they show things in June

01:36:30 ◼   ► and then they don't ship for a year.

01:36:32 ◼   ► - Still waiting for my air power back.

01:36:33 ◼   ► Exactly. We're still waiting for AirPlay 2 and we're still waiting for messages in the

01:36:37 ◼   ► cloud. None of these things were shipped and they were shown last June. So they could say

01:36:41 ◼   ► like we're going to go on a two-yearly release cycle, but over the next year we're planning

01:36:48 ◼   ► on releasing these features. I don't know.

01:36:51 ◼   ► Yeah, it's a possibility. It may be. I don't know.

01:36:53 ◼   ► So then at least they have more to show even though less will ship in September.

01:36:57 ◼   ► I think at the very least if they're going to announce messages in the cloud or features

01:37:03 ◼   ► like that. They should be even more vague with their dates than they currently are.

01:37:08 ◼   ► Well, they need to be more sure. They need to be more sure that it can happen. I don't

01:37:13 ◼   ► know what happened with those two features. Like, nobody really knows knows. Something

01:37:17 ◼   ► really bad happened with those two features. I think it is Airplay 2 and Messages in the

01:37:21 ◼   ► Cloud is why one of the big reasons why we're getting this slower release potentially is

01:37:27 ◼   ► because they announced these features and they couldn't ship them for whatever reason.

01:37:32 ◼   ► Yeah, whatever happened is bad.

01:37:34 ◼   ► And what's extra funny is the other day,

01:37:36 ◼   ► my iPhone was showing a banner on the bottom of iMessages

01:37:40 ◼   ► saying iMessages in the cloud, like not working correctly.

01:37:44 ◼   ► I was like, what are you doing iPhone?

01:37:46 ◼   ► - There were all these strange remnants of this stuff

01:37:49 ◼   ► supposing to have shipped by now

01:37:51 ◼   ► and they just like appear in these random places.

01:37:54 ◼   ► They're like, it's like the ghost of messages

01:37:56 ◼   ► is like haunting the phone.

01:37:58 ◼   ► - Yeah, well, that's like another great example of like,

01:38:02 ◼   ► Maybe wait until stuff is fully baked

01:38:04 ◼   ► before you start trying to shove it in.

01:38:06 ◼   ► And then like, oh no, we can't clean it out properly.

01:38:08 ◼   ► And you're gonna get weird messages about it for a year.