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67: "Entrepreneurs"

 

00:00:00   [phone ringing]

00:00:02   Hello, Myke.

00:00:03   Oh, God.

00:00:04   How you doing?

00:00:04   I'm good.

00:00:05   You look very nervous.

00:00:06   You're just in this black room now.

00:00:10   Is every inch of this office now covered in those panels?

00:00:14   Please don't touch them.

00:00:15   You don't like me touching the panels, Myke?

00:00:16   We've been through this before.

00:00:17   Please don't touch the panels.

00:00:18   Because what's happening is we're on video right now,

00:00:21   and you're going to touch one of those panels.

00:00:22   It's going to fall down and hit you on the head.

00:00:24   Now look--

00:00:24   It's going to knock you unconscious,

00:00:25   and I can't do anything.

00:00:26   Don't do that.

00:00:27   You can see it's really solid, right?

00:00:29   Oh my god. Yeah, it looks great.

00:00:32   Anyway, no, Myke. I wouldn't be crazy. I wouldn't cover my entire room with nothing but soundproof panels.

00:00:40   I've just built a little monolith at the back of my room that I'm now cozy and ensconced inside.

00:00:47   Oh god.

00:00:47   It gets very warm in here.

00:00:49   Yeah, I bet it does. At least you sound great.

00:00:52   That's what matters, Myke. It's all for the show.

00:00:57   I dropped my black keyboard. I brought from the iMac Pro that graphite wireless keyboard.

00:01:02   I brought that home to use in the recording studio.

00:01:04   Or the recording monolith, I guess.

00:01:07   - The recording box. We need a name for it, but I don't know what it is yet.

00:01:12   - Yeah, it's a black monolith. Which is great because it's wireless.

00:01:16   It's really convenient. Except for this moment where I've dropped it,

00:01:21   and because this room is entirely black, I cannot find the keyboard.

00:01:26   I don't know where it is.

00:01:27   - Really?

00:01:28   - Like I know it has to be within no more than two feet

00:01:33   of where I am right now.

00:01:34   But I can't find it.

00:01:36   I can't pull up the show notes.

00:01:38   Oh, here it is.

00:01:38   Okay.

00:01:39   Oops, there it is.

00:01:41   All right, I didn't drop it.

00:01:42   I slid it underneath the iMac that's in front of me

00:01:45   and then it became immediately invisible.

00:01:47   - It's like, what is that Fanta black?

00:01:49   That like, that black paint that--

00:01:53   - The black is the black.

00:01:54   Yeah, is it Vantablack? Is that what it's called?

00:01:57   That sounds right. That might be right. I don't know.

00:01:59   You need to get some of that going on in there.

00:02:01   I think I don't. I think actually what I need is more lights.

00:02:04   More lights and more air conditioning.

00:02:06   That stuff, I'm looking at pictures of it now.

00:02:08   That Vantablack is like, it just looks like a hole is cut out of the image.

00:02:11   Yeah. Yeah, it's unreal to see some of those photos.

00:02:13   It's so weird. It's like, it's strange because it comes across even in photos.

00:02:18   Just like, these pixels, these pixels are registering nothing.

00:02:21   Yeah, it's really strange.

00:02:22   Well, yeah, so I'll get some air conditioning in here.

00:02:25   Mm-hmm.

00:02:26   And then, of course, air conditioning makes a little bit of noise, so I'll need some more

00:02:30   sound isolation.

00:02:32   And then you need more air conditioning.

00:02:34   More air conditioning.

00:02:37   You need to build that set up inside of an igloo, and then you'll be okay.

00:02:43   No, I'll just keep adding layers of air conditioning and layers of soundproofing and layers of

00:02:47   air conditioning.

00:02:48   And it'll be like that comic book blame where the world is just like a universe that's entirely this artificial construction stretching out throughout the entire solar system.

00:02:59   Like it's just gonna be air conditioning and soundproofing all the way to Pluto.

00:03:03   Hi Myke.

00:03:05   Hello.

00:03:06   We've finally found a recording date that we can both get together to record the show.

00:03:14   Both.

00:03:15   Both is not, there wasn't a problem with both.

00:03:17   both. No, we're both in London so we can record the show. That is the necessary condition.

00:03:24   But one of us didn't go anywhere. Now that I have invested all of this time and effort

00:03:29   into the recording monolith which is around me, I do not want to record anywhere else.

00:03:35   Well we cannot have it. And we both need to be in London in order to record a podcast.

00:03:40   Except for that one episode a year where we're going to be in San Jose. Except for that one.

00:03:46   I don't know who knows if that's going to happen. Who knows right? Who knows? I don't know. I know.

00:03:51   [laughter]

00:03:55   What does it mean?

00:03:57   So you've been out and about what are your observations of traveling around? Tell me the thoughts of a rambling man.

00:04:06   I mean, I've been on, I think since the last time we spoke, four trips. Three out

00:04:16   of the country, one within the country. Too much travel.

00:04:19   Year of order. Order to the travel.

00:04:25   Year of order, those first two trips, total disaster. I was like, I have two trips back

00:04:31   to back, I'm going to go, year of order. Total fail right from the start. Didn't work at

00:04:38   all. I was like, I'm going to get up in the morning, I'm going to write, and I'm going

00:04:43   to exercise, and then I'm going to go do all the things, which is the reason why I'm on

00:04:48   this trip. Nope, of course, because when you go on business trips, one of the reasons you're

00:04:52   going is because there's lots of stuff that you should be doing when you're there, and

00:04:56   it just ends up sucking up all of your time. And I was thinking like, oh sure, I'll get

00:05:00   back to the hotel later and exercise, but later means one in the morning. And I was

00:05:04   like, "Guess what? It's not going to happen then." So yeah, little preview for Year of

00:05:09   Order with traveling so far, total fail. I did do slightly better on the second two trips.

00:05:14   I feel like I'm trying to learn how to make things reasonable. But one of the main things

00:05:22   with Year of Order that's driving me crazy with traveling right now, I think that I'm

00:05:27   obsessed with Myke is my travel charging situation. All of the various things that I bring with

00:05:38   me that need charging. I am a man obsessed with trying to reduce the number of different

00:05:47   kinds of wires or the number of things that I have to charge. And once you start thinking

00:05:56   about it. Like it won't let your mind go. And it's it's driving me crazy. Okay, so here,

00:06:02   let me tell you one thing, one thing alone, that's really bothering me. So I think the

00:06:08   Pareto solution for charging is like you need three wires that will be able to charge 90%

00:06:16   of your devices. I feel like that's a that's a general rule, you're going to need three

00:06:20   different things like two wires will probably get you 70% of the way. And three wires will

00:06:25   get you 90% of the way. And for me, those are lightning, USB-C, and I always forget

00:06:34   which way it goes. Is it the mini USB or is it the micro USB that's the really small one?

00:06:38   I want to say is the micro USB that's the really small one?

00:06:40   I don't know.

00:06:41   Yeah, nobody knows, right?

00:06:42   I think it's micro. I think mini is like a really weird connector.

00:06:46   There's too many USBs.

00:06:47   Yeah, it's micro. Micro is the one that you're thinking of.

00:06:50   Is the really little one.

00:06:51   That's the one that everybody uses. Like if you're not using lightning or USB-C, it's

00:06:56   micro.

00:06:57   Right, okay. So that's micro. Got it. So those three, I feel like, are my 90% solution wires.

00:07:04   What are you charging with micro USB though?

00:07:07   Oh, Myke. This is what makes me sad. What I'm charging with micro USB is all the things

00:07:14   I should be charging with USB-C.

00:07:17   - Yeah. - Why is USB-C

00:07:18   taking such a goddamn long time to get here?

00:07:23   I am charging, okay, let me think off the top of my head.

00:07:26   Stuff in my bag that I'm charging with micro USB.

00:07:29   Okay, number one, vitally important,

00:07:31   noise canceling headphones.

00:07:34   - They should be USB-C, what's going on?

00:07:36   Like, I know this isn't your thing, right?

00:07:37   But like, come on.

00:07:39   - Yeah.

00:07:40   So noise canceling headphones, micro USB, super frustrating.

00:07:45   My mouse for traveling, I use the MX Anywhere mouse.

00:07:50   So that's like the little brother version

00:07:54   of the MX Master mouse.

00:07:56   And I bring that one with me for traveling

00:07:59   because it's ambidextrous.

00:08:01   So while at home, I have equipment like the pen tablets

00:08:04   and stuff that would allow me to easily switch hands.

00:08:06   When I'm traveling, I want a mouse

00:08:07   that I can use in both hands and the MX,

00:08:10   Yeah, I think it's called MX Anywhere.

00:08:11   - Yeah, MX Anywhere, I'm looking at it right now.

00:08:13   It's a good looking mouse.

00:08:14   I assume it's small, right?

00:08:16   - Yeah, okay, so it, yeah.

00:08:17   - Oh yeah, here's a picture of it in somebody's hand.

00:08:19   There you go, now I know.

00:08:20   - Yeah, small and you can swap left or right hand.

00:08:24   - Great.

00:08:25   - You can use it both ways.

00:08:26   So it's nice.

00:08:28   It's not a mouse I would wanna use at my desk

00:08:32   because it's just a little too small

00:08:33   for like an all the time mouse,

00:08:35   but it's perfect for traveling.

00:08:37   But that uses mini USB. Super frustrating.

00:08:40   Oh man. Logitech make an ergonomic mouse.

00:08:44   I did not know about this. It's called the MX Ergo.

00:08:48   Isn't the MX Master Mouse an ergonomic mouse?

00:08:50   No, it's not, Gray. It's got a track ball and it tilts.

00:08:53   You can tilt it to any level you want. Look at that little thing. Interesting.

00:08:57   Please send me that link after the show.

00:08:59   I will.

00:09:01   Next week on Cortex, you'll hear how Myke's arm fell off.

00:09:06   because he used another Logitech mouse.

00:09:10   -You're the only one who has problems

00:09:11   with those Logitech's mice. I love them.

00:09:13   -That's a cortex deep cut.

00:09:15   That still comes up for me every now and then,

00:09:17   where, like, people reference the fact --

00:09:19   I was so excited about that mouse,

00:09:20   and then, like, three weeks later, like,

00:09:22   "Oh, I can't move my wrist anymore."

00:09:25   -Yeah, that's real early show stuff.

00:09:30   -Mm-hmm.

00:09:31   -Okay, so last thing that I bring with me

00:09:35   that requires mini USB is the Amazon Kindle.

00:09:40   And that one is particularly frustrating

00:09:43   because the Kindles, while I really like them,

00:09:46   Amazon super cheaps out with whatever port

00:09:49   they're putting in for the mini USB, it's the worst.

00:09:52   It's the cheapest, flimsiest,

00:09:54   hardly connects version of mini USB.

00:09:57   - Mini USB is crap though, like it is crap.

00:10:00   It's a terrible, terrible connector.

00:10:02   Like USB-C is so vastly superior to it.

00:10:05   It's unbelievable.

00:10:07   - Yeah, oh yeah.

00:10:07   That little tiny USB port is the worst.

00:10:13   I always feel like if I'm putting in,

00:10:15   like I'm crunching it,

00:10:16   like it feels like I'm physically breaking it.

00:10:18   - Every time, every time.

00:10:19   And I know why it is, and it is a good,

00:10:22   I guess kind of a good feature.

00:10:23   It has those little hooks, right, that like latch in.

00:10:26   Because you have to do that.

00:10:28   Like this isn't a normal thing for connectors

00:10:30   where like you can feel something changing

00:10:32   when you plug it in.

00:10:33   - It's like it's very strange.

00:10:35   - And also because there's some expectation of resistance,

00:10:39   it is the only cable where I have pushed unreasonably

00:10:44   when I have it going the wrong direction.

00:10:46   - No.

00:10:47   (laughing)

00:10:49   - So it is the only port which I have occasionally

00:10:55   actually broken on devices because I'm like,

00:10:57   oh right, this little micro USB,

00:11:00   it feels so terrible when you put it in,

00:11:02   I'm putting it in and it feels terrible, sure it does.

00:11:04   And then crunch, like, oh no,

00:11:06   like I actually broke it this time.

00:11:08   It's terrible. - I feel like I need to

00:11:09   be the voice of the agonized listener right now

00:11:12   to just point out the fact that you also need another cable,

00:11:15   which is the Apple Watch charger,

00:11:17   'cause you haven't mentioned that one yet.

00:11:19   (he sighs)

00:11:20   - Yeah, so this is-- - Right?

00:11:21   - But this is what I mean by this charging law,

00:11:24   that if you have three cables,

00:11:26   you'll be able to charge 90% of your stuff.

00:11:29   But then there's all the crap

00:11:31   that has one specialized charger, right?

00:11:34   And it's like, "Lookin' at you, Apple Watch."

00:11:38   Oh, like that was my least favorite thing

00:11:40   about the Apple Watch right from the start.

00:11:41   It's like, "Oh, I need a cable just for you."

00:11:45   And the electric toothbrush that I use

00:11:47   has a different funny USB connector at the end

00:11:50   that nothing else I own uses.

00:11:51   So it's like, "Oh, okay,

00:11:53   if I wanna charge my electric toothbrush,

00:11:54   I need a cable just for you."

00:11:57   - Do you not have the one where you can plug it

00:11:59   into the case with mini USB?

00:12:01   - Yeah, it charges through the case.

00:12:02   - Oh, but it's a different connector for you?

00:12:04   - It's a different USB, yeah.

00:12:06   - Oh, great.

00:12:06   - It's not the same micro USB

00:12:08   that my headphones and my Kindle use.

00:12:10   No, it's a different USB.

00:12:12   - That's probably mini then.

00:12:13   - I think that is the mini one.

00:12:15   It's the chunkier one that used to be on cameras

00:12:17   a long time ago.

00:12:19   And I'm forgetting what it is,

00:12:21   but I have something, there's something else in my bag

00:12:22   that also requires like a custom charger,

00:12:25   which is super annoying.

00:12:26   I can't think of what it is.

00:12:27   - Is it you?

00:12:28   Shhhhhh! Shhhhhh! Shhhhhh! Don't, don't, don't. Don't say that, Myke. Don't let the people

00:12:37   know. Because I feel like I'm gonna break your heart here, but for my traveling purposes,

00:12:43   I only need three cables. Okay, yeah. What are your three? It's the Apple Watch, Lightning,

00:12:49   and USB-C. Yeah, but that seems right. I have a micro, like, in my backpack in case of emergencies,

00:12:56   I don't have any technology that I take with me that requires a cable that isn't one of

00:13:01   those. That works really great. And I do agree that like, that's good, because really, that's

00:13:06   just that's three cables I need. I mean, of course, I have a couple of lightning cables

00:13:09   or whatever, right? But I don't need all of those. I can get away with just one.

00:13:14   Yeah, but even I feel like anybody, they name three cables, and they're pretty much fine.

00:13:20   Like, I could get away with not bringing the extra cables.

00:13:24   It's like necessary.

00:13:26   And if I had to not bring cables, it's like, okay,

00:13:29   well the toothbrush cable's gonna be the first one to go.

00:13:32   But I think almost any traveler,

00:13:33   there's going to be three things

00:13:35   that they absolutely have to have.

00:13:37   But so I've been obsessed with this idea

00:13:39   of trying to consolidate chargers down.

00:13:42   And I had what I thought was a brilliant idea.

00:13:46   So I'm thinking, okay, all right,

00:13:48   I've got all these different wires.

00:13:50   We also have the problem of what's on the other end

00:13:53   of the wire, right?

00:13:54   So what is the wire plugging into to actually charge?

00:13:59   And now we start getting into the fun question of like,

00:14:02   is it USB-A on the other end?

00:14:05   Is it USB-C on the other end?

00:14:07   Is it some other like funky little travel charger thing?

00:14:10   Like what's on the other end of this thing?

00:14:13   And I thought, I thought Myke, I was gonna be so clever

00:14:17   because I thought, I know what I'm going to do.

00:14:20   I can't, I can't get all of the,

00:14:22   I can't condense down the number of cables that I need.

00:14:26   But what I can do is at least make the other end

00:14:29   of all of these cables USB-C

00:14:32   so that I can try to simplify my charging situation

00:14:36   on the other end.

00:14:37   That I'll just have like a brick

00:14:40   and it'll have a bunch of USB-C ports in it.

00:14:42   And I'll buy wires from Monoprice or Anker or whatever

00:14:47   that have a USB-C cable on the one end,

00:14:50   even though that's not entirely up to spec

00:14:52   with some of the things it plugs into,

00:14:53   but whatever, I don't care.

00:14:55   Like, I'll just get that,

00:14:56   and at least I'll simplify on one end.

00:14:59   But, Myke, why?

00:15:02   Why are there no USB-C chargers that I can buy

00:15:05   that have more than one USB-C port?

00:15:08   I don't understand the situation in the world.

00:15:10   I scoured the internet, like, hey,

00:15:13   I will spend any amount of money

00:15:16   for a charging brick that has four USB-C ports in it.

00:15:21   Any amount of money.

00:15:22   - Yeah, it doesn't exist.

00:15:23   - It doesn't exist.

00:15:24   - 'Cause you can get them.

00:15:25   I have one, which is like an anchor thing,

00:15:27   which has five USB, regular USB ports on it.

00:15:32   But like the most that I've ever seen

00:15:34   is like one of these things

00:15:36   and it has one or maybe two USB-C ports on it,

00:15:39   but never more than that.

00:15:40   - Yeah, so I'll get to what my current solution is

00:15:43   for the moment, but I was so frustrated with this.

00:15:47   I feel like USBC has been around now for what?

00:15:49   A year and a half, two years?

00:15:51   Two years is a thousand years in internet time.

00:15:55   I don't understand why I can't,

00:15:57   I feel like I am the guy who needs to exist,

00:16:00   the person who is willing to be on the edge

00:16:02   and willing to spend a bunch more money on earlier products

00:16:05   to help create the market where things eventually

00:16:08   come down in price later.

00:16:10   And so I was there on the internet with my credit card and my wallet open.

00:16:15   I will spend anything to simplify my charging situation in the slightest way,

00:16:21   which is to just get USB-C all on one end, and the internet said back,

00:16:26   "No, sorry, we can't help you. There's nothing we can do here."

00:16:29   And it's just incredibly frustrating.

00:16:31   So I'm frustrated with my charging situation because there's too many things that I need to charge

00:16:37   that have too many different kinds of wires.

00:16:39   I wish everything was just...

00:16:41   I wish I could get more things like wirelessly charged,

00:16:43   like anything I can do to get these numbers down,

00:16:45   I would be happy about.

00:16:46   But then even on the other end,

00:16:47   like the things that I need to plug it into,

00:16:49   it's like, oh, okay, I need to have some smattering

00:16:53   of USB-C or USB-A on the other end,

00:16:56   which is now doubly frustrating

00:16:58   because it's a question of like, well,

00:16:59   some of these things, if I want to plug them

00:17:01   into my computer, I need to make sure

00:17:02   that I have the USB-C end for those cables,

00:17:06   but can I plug those cables into a brick

00:17:08   charge them in the wall? Like, no, I cannot. Now I need to have a USB-A and a USB-C version

00:17:13   of a bunch of these cables, like the Lightning cable. I need the USB-A version and I need

00:17:17   the USB-C version. And I'm going mad, Myke. I'm going mad. I hate it. I hate travel charging.

00:17:26   So what are you using now, then?

00:17:30   Okay. My current solution. Oh, right, of course. One of the problems is it needs to work internationally

00:17:38   as well, my charging solution.

00:17:39   - Yeah.

00:17:40   - My goal here, smallest number of wires,

00:17:44   maximum number of countries.

00:17:46   That's what I'm going for here.

00:17:47   What I want to create is a charging solution

00:17:52   that lives in my travel bag that I never touch, right?

00:17:56   It's just in there and I don't have to assemble it

00:17:59   every time that I travel.

00:18:00   So this is my goal.

00:18:02   And what I'm using right now is there is an anchor charger

00:18:07   that has four USB-A ports and one USB-C port.

00:18:12   - Yes.

00:18:15   - It's like IQ something charger.

00:18:17   It has like a little blue ring around the USB-C port.

00:18:20   - I hate that they have that little blue light by the way.

00:18:23   I have the older version of that

00:18:25   and it has a little blue light on it.

00:18:26   But these things go on the bedside table in the hotel.

00:18:30   So then there's like a little blue light constantly.

00:18:32   I hate it, I hate it.

00:18:33   - Yeah.

00:18:33   Travel pro tip on my travel checklist,

00:18:36   a bit of black tape because hotels--

00:18:39   - Yeah, I keep meaning to do it, but I've not done it.

00:18:40   But yes, that is a good pro tip.

00:18:43   - Yeah, I've had that in the back of my mind

00:18:46   as a thing to do for a long time,

00:18:47   and this year I finally did it.

00:18:48   And it's one of those things where as soon as you have

00:18:50   the tape available and you're standing in a hotel room,

00:18:52   you're like, "Oh, there's so many things

00:18:53   "I could put this tape across, right?"

00:18:55   Doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.

00:18:56   Make all these lights go away.

00:18:58   - You just tape it up the window.

00:18:59   - Yeah, oh yeah, you get tape up the window.

00:19:02   You can put tape over the people.

00:19:03   You can put tape over many things in the hotel room.

00:19:05   - Gosh, they do one of these with 10 USB ports on it?

00:19:09   That is wild.

00:19:11   Who needs that?

00:19:12   - That's a lot.

00:19:13   That's a lot.

00:19:14   Well, I would take more than four USB-A ports,

00:19:17   but anyway, that brick so far

00:19:21   is the best solution I've found.

00:19:24   It's frustrating because I still have this,

00:19:26   I need to duplicate some cables

00:19:28   if I want to plug things into my computer,

00:19:30   which is USB-C, so frustrating,

00:19:32   but I can't get the USB-C charger, so frustrating.

00:19:35   But the other thing is that cable,

00:19:40   it has a removable power cord at the back,

00:19:43   which uses this Infinity 8 style charger.

00:19:46   And you can buy wires for different countries

00:19:49   that will then plug into the back of that Anker charger.

00:19:52   So at the moment, that's my idea

00:19:56   for how I'm going to handle this,

00:19:57   is I can have different wires for different countries

00:19:59   that plug into that Anker power brick,

00:20:02   and then I can plug all of the various crap

00:20:04   that I need to charge into the front of that Anker device.

00:20:08   And that's where I am right now,

00:20:10   but I'm still not happy about it.

00:20:12   There's still too many wires.

00:20:14   Things aren't nice and simple and nice and smooth

00:20:17   the way I want them to be.

00:20:19   But I would love to hear from the listeners

00:20:23   what they do for travel charging.

00:20:26   And I would really like knowing

00:20:29   that the really big travel season is coming,

00:20:32   that I've just been through the travel warm-up.

00:20:35   I really want to hear everybody's tips and tricks

00:20:38   from frequent travelers.

00:20:39   Like if you travel a lot,

00:20:41   I want to hear your tips and tricks in the subreddit

00:20:44   'cause I feel like I really need to gear up.

00:20:46   I really need to gear up for this.

00:20:47   I want to know your charging solutions.

00:20:50   I want to know your solutions for everything.

00:20:53   Tips and tricks people in the subreddit.

00:20:55   I want them.

00:20:56   - I already feel bad for you.

00:20:59   - Why?

00:21:00   - 'Cause you're not gonna get what you want.

00:21:03   - I know.

00:21:03   - It's like, please listeners, fix this for me.

00:21:06   Have a magical solution, but like, sorry.

00:21:11   - I know, I know, it's like, I really am kind of hoping

00:21:14   that somehow there will be solutions

00:21:15   that will be better than my many hours

00:21:18   of searching everywhere over the internet

00:21:20   with an open wallet.

00:21:21   - How did you miss this?

00:21:22   It's available for you right here.

00:21:24   - I mean, I was deep into it.

00:21:28   Like I was so angry at one point I was researching the USB-C spec and I'm like, "Oh, this thing

00:21:33   is a bunch of bullshit!

00:21:34   That's why this isn't working out at all!"

00:21:36   It's like, "Oh, the USB-C spec is actually three specs.

00:21:40   It's the physical spec, it's the data spec, it's the power spec!"

00:21:43   And then going into this weird thing where it's like, "Oh, Apple doesn't follow the power

00:21:47   spec the same way all the other companies!"

00:21:48   It's like, "Oh, god damn it!"

00:21:50   And then you've got Thunderbolt, which goes on top of it all, right?

00:21:54   Makes it even more confusing.

00:21:55   It's crazy.

00:21:57   It's totally great.

00:21:58   But it's, again, this is where it's like,

00:22:00   I will use money to solve this problem.

00:22:02   I will buy $100 USB-C cables,

00:22:06   and just so I know that it always works with everything,

00:22:08   but it's like, I can't even do it.

00:22:09   I can't even do it.

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00:24:23   I got Arumba and I love it.

00:24:28   And I love it because I've mentioned before,

00:24:33   one of these, like the dumbest,

00:24:36   the dumbest productivity tricks that I use on myself,

00:24:39   which still works years and years later,

00:24:43   is if I'm feeling lazy, I just start up one of the robots in my house doing work.

00:24:48   So I was like, "Oh, okay. I'm going to put a bunch of clothing in the Laundry Matron,

00:24:54   and I'm going to run it."

00:24:55   And once the laundry machine is running,

00:24:59   it feels like, "Oh, I should probably do something too."

00:25:03   And then it's like, "Oh, I'll load up the dishwasher," and then like,

00:25:05   "Oh, the laundry machine and the dishwasher are running.

00:25:08   Well, now I should really do something."

00:25:09   It just -- It feels like there's some kind of force multiplier

00:25:15   going on when there are machines that are doing work for me.

00:25:17   -They're your co-workers. -They're not co-workers, Myke.

00:25:20   -Sure they are. -It's like a -- No.

00:25:22   No, not at all. -Mm-hmm.

00:25:24   -But it's this feeling of force multiplication.

00:25:27   And I have the Roomba, and I totally love it,

00:25:30   not least because now there are, by my count, four little robots

00:25:35   that I can have doing stuff in the house.

00:25:37   So it's like, "Okay, washing machine's going.

00:25:39   dryer is going, dishwasher is going, and the Roomba is going.

00:25:43   And then for sure I am going to get some work done

00:25:46   because I can't be the only one in the house

00:25:47   not doing anything.

00:25:49   And I absolutely love it.

00:25:51   But so anyway, I've been talking about how much

00:25:52   I love my Roomba to everyone who will listen.

00:25:54   Like, "Oh, you should totally get a Roomba."

00:25:57   And it's interesting, people push back

00:26:00   against the idea of the Roomba because they're like,

00:26:03   "Oh, but I'll have to vacuum myself

00:26:09   some of the areas that the Roomba can't get.

00:26:11   I mean, like, does the Roomba do a perfect job?

00:26:14   Can it do absolutely everything?

00:26:15   And the answer is, of course, no.

00:26:17   No, it can't do everything,

00:26:18   but it can do a lot of things for you.

00:26:22   And I feel like a Roomba is just another perfect example

00:26:27   of, like, changing your expectations

00:26:30   and being able to have big benefits from it.

00:26:33   So people are like, "Oh, I'm going to set out the Roomba

00:26:37   like I'm doing the vacuuming,

00:26:38   and I'm going to set up the whole house in order

00:26:41   to make sure that the Roomba can try to get everywhere.

00:26:43   It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:26:46   You just have it go and it does what it does

00:26:50   and you just get the advantages from it.

00:26:52   It feels like just a perfect example of automation.

00:26:54   Like this thing is doing a job.

00:26:57   Is it doing as great of a job as you could do as a person?

00:27:01   No, of course not.

00:27:03   You could do a better job as a human being.

00:27:05   You could get into all the little nooks and crannies.

00:27:07   You wouldn't have to bounce around the room

00:27:08   300 times because you're blind and can't see where you're going and are just vacuuming randomly?

00:27:13   No, you wouldn't you wouldn't have to do that.

00:27:14   But the whole point of the Roomba is that you don't have to do the thing.

00:27:20   You can be doing something else. You're sitting on your computer, maybe answering emails.

00:27:24   Probably not if you're me, but you can do something else.

00:27:27   And it's just I find it interesting that they're like some people have a hard time with this idea of

00:27:34   If the job can't be done as well as I could personally do it,

00:27:39   I don't want something else to do it.

00:27:43   And I feel like it's, you just,

00:27:45   this is like really important for learning

00:27:49   how to get more stuff done in life.

00:27:51   It's like, yeah, I'm accepting that this job

00:27:53   is not gonna be as thorough as if I was doing it,

00:27:56   but it doesn't matter because I'm getting

00:27:58   this productivity multiplier, that something is happening,

00:28:02   I don't have to do it and I can let go of how it would need to be super perfect the

00:28:08   way I would do it.

00:28:09   So I totally love my little Roomba.

00:28:12   He's my little productivity multiplier buddy.

00:28:16   I have a comparison that I want to make.

00:28:19   But like, it's, you have to, like everybody just has to let me finish.

00:28:25   No, no, I'm going to get ready to jump down your throat.

00:28:28   Whatever you're going to say, halfway through I'm going to interrupt Myke.

00:28:32   It's kind of like hiring someone.

00:28:36   How dare you compare them to a vacuuming robot?

00:28:40   Nobody is going to do things exactly the way that you would do them, right?

00:28:45   Some things are going to be better, some things are going to be different, some things are

00:28:48   going to be worse, but you kind of just… and this is the same with just delegation

00:28:54   in general, right?

00:28:55   Like not even just hiring someone, but giving a task away to somebody else.

00:28:59   There's going to be this spectrum of how the results are at the end, but no matter what

00:29:04   it is, you do get a benefit from it.

00:29:07   Even if something's not as good as you would do it, as long as it's done, it doesn't really

00:29:13   matter does it?

00:29:14   No.

00:29:15   Roomba.

00:29:16   It's baby's first delegation.

00:29:18   I don't know about that.

00:29:23   Because they're really expensive.

00:29:25   So like, I don't know if you can go there first.

00:29:29   I think like other things have to happen in your life before you can get a Roomba.

00:29:34   That's true.

00:29:35   Babies have no money to buy Roombas.

00:29:36   No, I did just see one on Amazon that integrates with the Echo.

00:29:40   Oh no!

00:29:41   Right?

00:29:42   So I could be like, "Echo, start the hoovering or whatever."

00:29:48   You and your Echo, Myke.

00:29:49   You really love it.

00:29:50   I do really love it.

00:29:51   I do.

00:29:52   So now I'm like looking at this like unnecessarily expensive Roomba.

00:29:56   there are Roombas that are like multiple hundreds of pounds cheaper but like oh but this one

00:30:00   ooh but this one I can I can connect it to my home automation system.

00:30:06   Yeah you want the 960 mic that's what you want. That's the one I'm looking at. It's

00:30:10   right at the top of the price pyramid. Yeah yeah oh but I can save 220 pounds so that's

00:30:17   good news. Is that what you have the 960? Uh yeah I think so I think it was yeah I love

00:30:23   it's great. It's absolutely great.

00:30:25   We're getting deep into Roomba talk now. How often do you need to vacuum yourself when

00:30:30   you have a Roomba? Do you still need to go and take care of it in some way?

00:30:36   No. You don't need to take care of it. You just need to empty it sometimes. And I have

00:30:43   it run because I go to the glass forge in the morning. I have it just automatically

00:30:49   scheduled that shortly after I leave, it just wakes up, chirps a little happy song, and

00:30:56   then goes around the whole flat vacuuming.

00:31:00   And what I really like is it sends you a little map of what it thinks your flat looks like

00:31:05   after it's done.

00:31:06   So you can see if it got blocked off somewhere or if some room didn't work out.

00:31:13   But it again, it's a perfect example of, oh, you know, on Monday it sends me back a

00:31:19   a little map and I can see that, oh, like the kitchen door was closed so it didn't

00:31:24   get in the kitchen. And instead of thinking like, "Oh, that Roomba, it's so useless,

00:31:28   can't open doors," it's like, "Well, it's going to run again tomorrow and the

00:31:31   day after." Like it's going to get the kitchen eventually.

00:31:34   Right. And then you just like open the door, right? Like one day you're just going to

00:31:39   open because I think about like with my place, but the bathrooms because the bathroom door

00:31:43   is closed, right? So I would just need to prop it open one day so it can go in there

00:31:48   and do what it needs to do.

00:31:49   Yeah, it's great.

00:31:51   It's fantastic.

00:31:53   Cleaning delegation.

00:31:55   So Grey, as of a couple of weeks ago,

00:31:57   it is now possible

00:31:59   for many more people

00:32:01   to get their hands on the Apple Pencil

00:32:03   which is a thing that we have

00:32:05   sold the virtues for for a couple

00:32:07   of years now on this show.

00:32:09   Because Apple have released

00:32:11   a lower end iPad,

00:32:13   a $330 iPad

00:32:15   or something like that,

00:32:17   now has support of the Apple Pencil. All iPads have support for the Apple Pencil now, except

00:32:22   the iPad Mini, RIP. Still there, but RIP. Still selling it. Did you not know this? Did

00:32:29   you not know about this?

00:32:30   Yeah, I missed this one.

00:32:32   Yeah, it wasn't big news. They had an event, right?

00:32:35   I feel this is like a dereliction of duty for Cortex, but no, I feel like I totally

00:32:40   missed this one. I'm sorry.

00:32:41   I can't believe that. I just can't believe that. But anyway...

00:32:44   In fairness, I haven't been listening to podcasts because I have been traveling, but

00:32:48   yeah, I did totally miss this one.

00:32:50   So it's just all the iPads now have the pencil support.

00:32:53   That is when people listen to podcasts, is when they're moving around.

00:32:56   But like, whatever, you know, you do you.

00:32:58   I will do me.

00:32:59   So now all iPads can use the Apple Pencil now, which is great because I think it's

00:33:06   a great tool and now more people get to use it.

00:33:07   Yeah, that is great.

00:33:08   I wanted to do a kind of recap/primer for our Apple Pencil usage for two reasons.

00:33:16   One, because now more people will be able to use one.

00:33:18   And two, people ask me for this all the time.

00:33:21   And I will now be able to say, go and listen to episode 67 of Cortex.

00:33:26   And now I'm done.

00:33:27   Right?

00:33:28   Because I don't know about you, but I get this question asked of me a lot.

00:33:30   Like people getting their iPads for the first time, like, what apps do you use?

00:33:33   What do you use the Apple Pencil for?

00:33:35   What accessories do you have for it?

00:33:36   And all that kind of stuff.

00:33:37   So I wanted to just wrap it up into one little bundle here.

00:33:41   So for me, personally, the most usage in an application that I get from the Apple Pencil

00:33:49   is in Notability, which is a note-taking/PDF markup application.

00:33:58   You can take regular handwritten notes and if I have a meeting where I want to be able

00:34:02   to have my handwritten notes accessible to me later, because it's an important meeting

00:34:07   or whatever, then I will grab my one of my iPads, I'll grab my

00:34:10   Apple pencil, I'll open Notability and I'll start making my notes there.

00:34:14   And the same if I have a PDF that somebody sends me and maybe I want to make

00:34:19   some changes on it or I want to just sit and kind of like really analyze it,

00:34:22   then I will open it up in Notability and kind of get to work on it.

00:34:26   There has all of the features you'd expect, right?

00:34:28   It has handwriting tools.

00:34:30   You can draw some shapes and stuff like that.

00:34:31   You can add text.

00:34:33   You can kind of grab things and move them around, which I really like.

00:34:36   that has a really good selection tool,

00:34:38   so you can write a bunch of stuff,

00:34:40   you draw a circle around it to select it,

00:34:42   and you can move it around or make it bigger or smaller,

00:34:44   which can be really useful sometimes.

00:34:46   If you wanna fit more on a page,

00:34:48   you can just shrink everything.

00:34:49   - Yeah, that's really nice.

00:34:50   - I really like Notability.

00:34:52   It's a powerful app, it has a bunch of different paper stuff

00:34:54   and I like it a lot.

00:34:55   If memory serves, you use Good Notes,

00:34:58   which is very similar,

00:35:00   but it has just some slightly different features, right?

00:35:02   - Yeah, they're pretty similar.

00:35:05   One feature that GoodNotes doesn't have

00:35:07   is that ability to shrink down something,

00:35:11   which can definitely be handy sometimes.

00:35:13   But, no, GoodNotes is my digital paper of choice,

00:35:18   and I totally love it.

00:35:21   Every once in a while, I do check out Notability,

00:35:24   and just for me, there's something

00:35:27   that's just a little bit different

00:35:28   about the way the two of them are handling

00:35:32   the smoothing algorithm for when you're writing.

00:35:35   There's like a little bit of a difference,

00:35:37   and I just like the way the GoodNotes

00:35:39   handles that much better.

00:35:41   But yeah, I do the same thing where

00:35:44   if I need to work with PDFs,

00:35:47   that's the place where I can mark them up.

00:35:50   And mostly I use it as like these pads of paper

00:35:55   for me to brainstorm ideas or to write things out.

00:36:00   And it's really useful for just for thinking things through

00:36:05   for me.

00:36:06   As a little sidebar here, Myke,

00:36:07   I know you'll appreciate this,

00:36:08   but on my last round of travel,

00:36:12   I was trying to travel really light

00:36:14   and I was trying to think like, okay,

00:36:15   what can I not take with me?

00:36:17   And I decided to not take my iPad with me on the last trip.

00:36:22   I was like, okay, I don't think that I need it,

00:36:25   but I definitely need the laptop.

00:36:28   And I totally regretted not bringing it.

00:36:30   - Okay, phew, I thought you were punking me then.

00:36:33   Right, okay.

00:36:33   (laughing)

00:36:35   - 100%, I regretted not bringing it because of good notes.

00:36:39   Because that really is just the way,

00:36:42   when I'm in a particular mood,

00:36:43   it's very useful to sketch stuff out with a pencil.

00:36:45   It's just different than working on a computer.

00:36:48   - Like if you get into that kind of mode

00:36:50   of like wanting to be able to grab this PDF

00:36:53   or grab this image or grab this like wireframe

00:36:57   or mock-up or whatever.

00:36:59   You get used to doing that.

00:37:01   It's so powerful because there is no better way of doing it.

00:37:05   You can do this stuff on a Mac, right?

00:37:08   You can do it, but it's nowhere near as good

00:37:11   because you're actually manipulating the thing

00:37:14   in front of you with a pencil.

00:37:16   It's brilliant.

00:37:17   - Yeah, the handwriting sketching kind of stuff,

00:37:19   it's just clearly the place that it is super superior.

00:37:22   But also what you might enjoy is,

00:37:25   I was so frustrated at my decision

00:37:27   to not bring the iPad that I went out

00:37:29   and I bought a paper notebook and I bought a pen.

00:37:33   And I was like, okay, well, like I'm in the mood

00:37:35   to do this kind of thinking.

00:37:36   And I sat down with the paper notebook and the pen

00:37:39   and I was sort of doing the same kind of thing

00:37:42   I would do on my iPad.

00:37:43   And I was like, oh, this is a far inferior experience

00:37:46   because I can't do a lasso tool to move things around

00:37:50   when I want to move them around.

00:37:51   It's like, it's just here on ink.

00:37:53   I can't move this.

00:37:54   How am I supposed to copy and paste this

00:37:57   when I want to show this thing three or four times.

00:37:59   So it's like, oh, paper, that's why I left you paper.

00:38:02   The digital stuff is much better.

00:38:05   - This is, you know, I said it, like I made a hint to it.

00:38:07   Like I am a big pen and paper guy as people know,

00:38:09   but if I'm taking notes on something

00:38:12   that I consider to be really important,

00:38:14   I want them digitally so they're everywhere.

00:38:17   Like I only ever take pen and paper notes in a meeting

00:38:20   or on a call or whatever,

00:38:21   if it's like I'm expecting it to not need it.

00:38:25   That's the only time I ever do that.

00:38:27   - Yeah, it was also an interesting moment

00:38:28   where I recognized a whole orbit of problems

00:38:31   that I used to have to deal with

00:38:33   before the iPad and the pencil came around,

00:38:36   which is exactly this, of all this work that I'm doing,

00:38:39   how am I going to get it back into my system?

00:38:41   And so I'm thinking like, am I just gonna take a picture

00:38:43   of these pages with my phone?

00:38:44   Like, is that, am I gonna, like, oh,

00:38:47   how do I turn this back into digital?

00:38:49   Because ultimately in my life and the way that I work,

00:38:51   I want everything that's important should be digital.

00:38:55   and should be synchronized and should be everywhere.

00:38:57   And I was just so aware of that,

00:39:01   like, oh, I have to hold onto this paper notebook

00:39:02   and if I lose it, all the things I have written down

00:39:04   are just gone.

00:39:05   Like, well, that's dumb, that's ridiculous.

00:39:07   I don't like this at all.

00:39:09   - It doesn't make sense in the modern world, right?

00:39:11   It doesn't, and I get it.

00:39:12   - I was totally missing it.

00:39:14   I will just quickly mention,

00:39:15   it's not strictly Apple Pencil stuff,

00:39:20   but the one related tool that I use with Good Notes

00:39:24   when working on things that are writing

00:39:27   and that I really love is I use Ulysses

00:39:30   for most of the writing work that I do

00:39:32   as my text editor of choice.

00:39:34   And Ulysses has a really great feature

00:39:37   where not only can you export the text

00:39:40   that you're working on as a PDF,

00:39:42   so I can say like, oh, here's a thing I'm working on,

00:39:44   export it as a PDF, open that PDF in GoodNotes,

00:39:47   and then mark it up by hand with pencil,

00:39:49   which I really think is a great thing to do

00:39:51   to shift your mind into thinking about

00:39:53   what you're working on in a different way.

00:39:55   I find it really helpful.

00:39:56   But Ulysses also allows you to customize the format

00:40:01   of how that PDF is going to look.

00:40:04   So I have a customized template that does two things.

00:40:08   It exports the text at like triple spaced.

00:40:12   So there's lots of space between the words.

00:40:15   And I've also taken to dramatically reducing the opacity

00:40:20   of the exported text.

00:40:21   So the exported text is just a very light gray.

00:40:24   And then that makes it really easy

00:40:26   when I'm marking up stuff to later on see,

00:40:28   "Here's the markup.

00:40:30   Here's all this plenty of space that I had."

00:40:32   So GoodNotes is great,

00:40:34   and I find if you're working with text,

00:40:36   Ulysses plus GoodNotes is a great experience

00:40:40   from going from text to PDF to markup

00:40:43   to then put your changes back into Ulysses

00:40:45   and go back and forth in that cycle.

00:40:48   -Yeah, I know that, like, the Ulysses team,

00:40:51   they really like to think of and build the application

00:40:54   with specific tools and thoughts in mind for novelists,

00:40:58   like the people that write long books and fiction

00:41:02   and non-fiction, that kind of stuff.

00:41:03   And that is clearly one of those features

00:41:05   that was built for that type of work, right?

00:41:08   That you can export a PDF so somebody can mark it up.

00:41:12   Right, like someone can print that

00:41:13   and do some real kind of like marking up of the text

00:41:18   and edits and all that kind of stuff, right?

00:41:20   I don't know if many bloggers do this.

00:41:25   And I feel like a lot of my blog writer friends

00:41:30   use Ulysses 'cause it also has really great publishing tools

00:41:34   and great markdown support and stuff like that.

00:41:36   But then it also has these,

00:41:37   oh, you can triple space the lines in your PDF.

00:41:39   That is clearly for the long form writers.

00:41:42   - Yeah, 100%. - And for you,

00:41:43   it's 'cause you're writing scripts, right?

00:41:44   And it's a similar kind of idea

00:41:46   that you're trying to edit something to be spoken out loud,

00:41:50   which is, whilst they're not the exact same practice

00:41:54   between that and a novelist,

00:41:55   the reasons you're doing it are the same, right?

00:41:57   Which is to whittle it down,

00:41:59   to make it as good as it can possibly be when read.

00:42:03   Which, I would be surprised to know if any of my friends

00:42:07   who write technology blogs get their Ulysses documents,

00:42:12   that was PDFs and start marking them up, I don't know.

00:42:15   - Yeah, I think that's a very different use case.

00:42:17   But if you're that kind of person,

00:42:20   GoodNotes plus Ulysses on the iPad

00:42:22   is a really great combination to not have to go outside of it.

00:42:26   Like, I used to have a crazy script

00:42:29   that just ran constantly on my computer

00:42:31   that was manually creating PDFs

00:42:35   based on changes in Dropbox of markdown files

00:42:38   and exporting them to a folder,

00:42:40   which I would then try to import into GoodNotes.

00:42:42   It was wacky and fragile and terrible,

00:42:45   and then Ulysses came along and was like,

00:42:47   "Goodbye, crazy system.

00:42:49   This is much better.

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00:44:30   continued support of this show and Relay FM. I also use Apple Notes for Apple pencil related

00:44:37   stuff if it's like I need a scratch pad. So Apple Notes I use for text is like my central

00:44:42   storage point. Like I have so many things text related that go in there. I have PDFs

00:44:47   that go in like all my travel notes go in Apple Notes now. But if I just need to like

00:44:51   do some quick scribbling or you know sometimes I'll get like I'll get like a contract coming

00:44:57   or whatever and I need to just just check some stuff out to maybe do some sums or whatever I

00:45:01   need to do. I will use Apple Notes for that and kind of just because you could just grab the

00:45:05   pencil, you touch it to the paper, it starts recognizing what's going on, and you can just

00:45:10   start writing in it. And I like it for that, and then you can just immediately get rid of it. You

00:45:14   can delete it. Apple Notes has a feature that it pretends that is good, which is the ability to try

00:45:20   and do text recognition on the handwriting, in the sidebar to try and give you an idea of what's

00:45:27   written in the note, like a heading. How well does that work?

00:45:30   Terribly. Okay, not terribly, alright.

00:45:32   I mean, okay, I have bad handwriting, but like, it's just everyone that I've ever known I've seen

00:45:39   try to use it just has just like ridiculous things. I mean, it's doing OCR on it so you can

00:45:43   also search the text. I mean, and it works, but not very well. There are also a couple of applications

00:45:52   that I play around with that I like that are not necessarily things that I spend a lot of time in

00:45:58   because I'm not good at some of this stuff, but I like them anyway.

00:46:01   And one of them is called Linnea, Linnea, I'm not sure exactly how you pronounce it.

00:46:07   And it is like it's a it's a drawing app. And they just added in some features for like being able to

00:46:13   mark up images and stuff like that. But I find notabilities tools better for what I need there.

00:46:18   But it's it's like an app to to produce art and to do sketch ups. And they, you know, they have

00:46:25   a lot of interesting templates and stuff. So for like for app design and things like that.

00:46:29   So they have little templates that look like iPhones and you can draw in them.

00:46:32   It's a really nice application. It's low. It's kind of all of the applications that I've tried

00:46:38   that are art related with the Apple Pencil. It is like the most focused and it has a more limited

00:46:44   tool set. But it does them really well and it works really well. And then kind of like on the

00:46:50   other end of that you have something like Procreate which has every single tool available

00:46:55   to you, right, which is just this wonderful art application that I can't use because I

00:47:01   have just like, like just just shocked into horror every time I open it because I don't

00:47:06   know how to use it because it's so powerful and it's so far away from my skill set but

00:47:10   it is a fantastic app.

00:47:11   Do you have a hard time with it because it's such a complicated app and you can't express

00:47:16   your amazing artistic skills through this complicated app? Is that the problem? Or is

00:47:21   the problem a total lack of artistic talent?

00:47:23   No, no, I just struggle to be able to get the tools to make true representation of the

00:47:30   images in my mind. That's all it is, you know.

00:47:32   Yeah, no, of course.

00:47:33   Give me a paintbrush and I can do what I need.

00:47:35   Yeah. I, on the other hand, have definitely bought many an art app on the iPad.

00:47:39   Oh yeah.

00:47:40   And within seconds remembered, I have no talent at all.

00:47:45   Why did I buy this? I can do nothing with this app.

00:47:47   I have no talent.

00:47:49   -And there are some vector apps as well, right, for the iPad.

00:47:53   -I never found anything that was suitable to --

00:47:59   I guess I would fall in the category

00:48:01   of professional vector use.

00:48:03   I found a lot of stuff that was fine to play around with

00:48:07   and maybe produce one or two things,

00:48:10   but I never found a tool that could do what I needed to do,

00:48:13   which is manage a library of hundreds of vector assets

00:48:17   and be able to make changes across that kind of thing.

00:48:20   -Okay.

00:48:21   -I've left that world behind, but at least when I was looking,

00:48:24   I never found anything that felt like it was much more

00:48:27   than really a toy vector app.

00:48:29   -Sure. That type of drawing style,

00:48:32   like vector with the whatever it is,

00:48:34   little anchors and the lines, I can't --

00:48:36   my brain cannot understand what is going on

00:48:41   whenever I try and use those. It's kind of quite funny really, but I just can't get my

00:48:46   head around it.

00:48:47   It's art, but with math, Myke. Just a bunch of Bezier curves.

00:48:52   Pigment is also really good, which is a coloring book app. And so if you want to do coloring

00:48:57   on your iPad, Pigment is there for you. It's the best one. Don't try any other. Just use

00:49:02   Pigment. If you want to try any coloring, Pigment is the application for you. They even

00:49:06   have a bunch of spinoff ones now, like licensed stuff, like Marvel and things like that. They

00:49:11   They have like Marvel coloring books

00:49:12   powered by the pigment technology.

00:49:14   That's kind of cool if you want it.

00:49:16   As well as all of this stuff,

00:49:17   both me and Grey very frequently use the Apple Pencil

00:49:21   as just general UI navigation.

00:49:23   Still works.

00:49:25   There are applications that doesn't work in any more,

00:49:27   which I understand,

00:49:28   but just in general across the entire system,

00:49:31   it is still a comfortable and kind of

00:49:34   a repetitive strain friendly way to navigate an interface

00:49:38   in the same way that we use Wacom tablets.

00:49:41   -Yeah, without a doubt.

00:49:42   You know, my -- again, in my professional computer use,

00:49:47   I know that I have to set hard limits

00:49:49   on the amount of hours I can spend at a computer doing --

00:49:54   like, I can't spend an infinite amount of time

00:49:56   on the computer doing work.

00:49:58   I'll run up against physical RSI limitations.

00:50:01   But with pencil stuff, like, I personally don't run into that,

00:50:08   and I always think it's much better.

00:50:10   And it is a thing as my work has shifted more back to Mac OS

00:50:17   and using a laptop.

00:50:19   One of the things I think about a lot is that debate about,

00:50:22   "Oh, Apple's not gonna make any touch-sensitive laptops,"

00:50:26   which I think that debate is over, and they totally should.

00:50:29   But I also find myself thinking one step further.

00:50:31   It's like, "Oh, yes, but if Apple does ever make

00:50:33   a touch-sensitive laptop,

00:50:34   I want it to work with the Apple Pencil, too,"

00:50:37   because I have totally, in that subconscious way,

00:50:40   when I'm sitting at a desk and I have my laptop in front of me

00:50:42   and iPad is next to me and the pencil is on top of the iPad,

00:50:46   I have sometimes, without thinking,

00:50:47   grabbed the pencil to point it at

00:50:50   or move something on the computer screen

00:50:51   and then go, "Oh, right. It doesn't work at all."

00:50:54   But, yeah, it's great for UI and navigation,

00:50:58   and I want pencil support everywhere --

00:51:00   on the phone, on the laptops, on my watch.

00:51:04   I'll take it everywhere.

00:51:07   Do you use any accessories for your Apple Pencil?

00:51:10   - Yes, the only thing that I use is I have,

00:51:15   what's it called?

00:51:17   It's one of the dbrand skins.

00:51:19   I have a couple of different dbrand skins on a few pencils,

00:51:23   because that for me, it solved one of the,

00:51:27   my frustrations with the Apple Pencil is it's just,

00:51:30   it's too slick.

00:51:32   And I am, it's interesting when you talk to people

00:51:36   who use Apple Pencils because there are two kinds of people

00:51:39   who use Apple Pencils.

00:51:40   People who buy bags full of the Apple Pencil replaceable

00:51:45   tips and people who don't know that the Apple tip

00:51:48   is even replaceable.

00:51:50   And I think some people just press harder on the screen

00:51:54   and so like burn through those replaceable tips

00:51:57   and I am totally one of those people.

00:51:59   And I think because I'm pressing harder,

00:52:02   I often find that my fingers are sliding down the pencil

00:52:05   I'm using it. Like I want more friction and so I bought quite a few wraps. The one that

00:52:13   I find has the most friction and is the easiest to grip is like this pretty princess pink

00:52:20   sparkly dbrand wrapper on the Apple pencil. It's great! My wife is like "I don't want

00:52:29   to see you using that in public, you can't use that in public" but it's the grippiest

00:52:33   one and it's the prettiest one. I really like it.

00:52:36   Oh my gosh, which one did you get? Was it dbrand or Slickwraps?

00:52:42   I don't know, it's one of these wrap things. Like Myke, you always want these specifics.

00:52:45   I mentioned that I have a backpack and then you need to know the exact one. Look, all

00:52:49   I know is I have a pretty princess sparkly wrap thing that goes around my pencil which

00:52:54   is super grippy and I don't know why you need to know exactly which company it is.

00:52:58   I don't know, I can't even remember. I bought that backpack.

00:53:02   - Oh, good.

00:53:04   - It's very, very good.

00:53:06   - Yeah, the reason why I didn't bring the iPad

00:53:09   is one of the trips I was trying to do

00:53:10   with just that backpack without bringing any other suitcases

00:53:14   because it was a relatively short trip,

00:53:16   or so I thought when the trip began.

00:53:18   But yeah, I've been putting that one through its paces

00:53:22   and I really like it as a travel accessory.

00:53:24   - I'm a big fan of it.

00:53:26   I believe, or I'm expecting you have

00:53:29   the slick wraps glitz series pink one here because it's like all glittery and stuff.

00:53:37   Yeah it's sparkly. Yeah because dbrand only make the one that looks like a pencil. Oh

00:53:43   do they only? Okay so then it must be a slick wrap one. It's a slick wrap one. So I've had

00:53:47   dbrand skins and slick wrap skins. I like them both. The ones that I had, I had one

00:53:53   that look like a regular pencil, one that looks like a crayon. I then made my own.

00:54:03   What with one of those like custom designer things?

00:54:06   No, me and our designer Simon did it. We worked together on it and I had like a mic brand

00:54:16   skin on my Apple Pencil, which I love. However, all of these are being issued now for a product

00:54:24   called the Kaweco Grip.

00:54:25   Hmm, okay. What is this? Tell me.

00:54:27   Kaweco is a traditional pen company from Germany.

00:54:31   Oh, okay. Here we go.

00:54:32   They make fountain pens and they make regular pens and they have a long history.

00:54:36   I was getting excited, but now I don't know.

00:54:38   Absolutely out of the blue at a trade show a couple of months ago, Kaweco showed off

00:54:44   grip. It's currently only available from one place in Europe, which is the son of the founder

00:54:49   of Kaweco's company called Most Wanted Pens, and it is an entire sleeve/case type dealio

00:54:58   for the Apple Pencil. This looks really interesting. Made out of aluminium, and it has

00:55:05   what is called a knurled grip, which means it has a texture to the grip, right?

00:55:13   And the way that you put it on is you slide one piece over

00:55:16   and then you slide another piece, you twist it,

00:55:18   and it locks into place.

00:55:20   And they have them in the four colors

00:55:21   that Apple make their devices in, and I love it.

00:55:24   I have one on one of my Apple Pencils,

00:55:25   I have another one on the way.

00:55:27   I will tell you in advance what this thing does.

00:55:30   So it makes it heavier, and because the Apple Pencil

00:55:34   is so big, it kind of makes it maybe a little bit too heavy,

00:55:37   but you get used to it.

00:55:38   But then what it does is it stops it rolling

00:55:40   because it has some flat sides on it.

00:55:42   And it gives me what I've been looking for forever, which is a grip.

00:55:47   Yeah, okay, so I feel like I've...

00:55:51   It's inevitable that one of these is going to arrive at my house somehow, I don't know.

00:55:54   I recommend that you wait until you see me next, and then you can try it.

00:55:59   Because it's not a cheap thing, and then you have to do the shipping, which is coming from Europe, so that adds on.

00:56:05   Just try it out because you might not like it.

00:56:08   So I would recommend just like waiting until I can show you one before you go ahead and buy it.

00:56:14   Click. It's probably already bought.

00:56:16   Too late!

00:56:19   The question that I would ask, which I already know the answer to but I'll ask anyway,

00:56:26   is can you force it to fit in the top of the leather traveling case for the iPad?

00:56:34   Probably not. I mean, yeah, that's what I assume because it looks pretty junkie.

00:56:37   I haven't tried it because I don't have one of those. You might, I don't think, well okay,

00:56:43   it's leather so it will stretch but that's what you'll need to do. That's what I'm wondering,

00:56:47   there's a little bit of give. I'm sure you can stretch it. I reckon if you put it in upside down

00:56:53   you might have a better chance but then you may lose the cap forever. So you know, it's up to you

00:56:58   I guess but yeah I don't use, so you use one of those then that's that's another accessory you

00:57:03   you have then, the leather travel case for the iPad.

00:57:07   - Yeah, I do use that, and I use it when I'm traveling

00:57:12   for exactly one reason,

00:57:17   which is I'm getting on an airplane.

00:57:20   And you know, there's always like this hassle

00:57:22   when you're getting on an airplane,

00:57:24   'cause you have people behind you,

00:57:25   there's like this rush, you can't futz around for too long,

00:57:28   otherwise you're holding up an entire airplane of people.

00:57:31   And it's a very uncomfortable moment.

00:57:34   But I love having that iPad leather travel thing

00:57:39   because it means that when I am getting on the plane,

00:57:44   I can just reach in and grab that thing

00:57:47   and know that while I'm sitting in the airplane seat,

00:57:50   I have the complete iPad package.

00:57:53   Like I know that I have the keyboard case

00:57:57   because the keyboard case hasn't slipped off

00:58:00   in the backpack from being jostled around.

00:58:02   And I know that I have a pencil to work with this stuff.

00:58:06   So that is very, very often my move

00:58:10   of sitting down on an airplane.

00:58:12   It's like, I'm only gonna get two things out of my backpack.

00:58:14   It's like, I'm gonna have a bottle of water on the side,

00:58:17   and then I'm just going to reach in

00:58:18   and grab the iPad travel sleeve.

00:58:21   And I just love that it's a single package

00:58:23   because before I had that, like fairly frequently,

00:58:27   I would sit down and go like,

00:58:27   "Oh, I don't have the pencil in my pocket

00:58:29   because I'm traveling and I'm doing everything differently.

00:58:31   Or like I said, the cover would slide off

00:58:34   and then I'd have to root around in my bag

00:58:35   and people are glaring at me while they're waiting

00:58:37   to get further down the airplane.

00:58:38   So I don't use it like around the house.

00:58:41   I don't put the iPad in it, but if I'm traveling,

00:58:43   iPad totally goes in that pencil on the top.

00:58:45   - I don't know if this will work for that.

00:58:49   But I do really like this product.

00:58:51   I keep my Apple Pencil attached to my iPads via a pen loop.

00:58:56   - Right, yeah.

00:58:57   which is, links for all of this stuff

00:58:59   will be in our show notes, by the way.

00:59:01   One of the other reasons I'm doing this.

00:59:03   - I think links for none of this stuff

00:59:04   should be in the show notes.

00:59:05   I think this should be an episode

00:59:07   where you don't have any show notes, Myke.

00:59:08   - How about I tell you there won't be any?

00:59:10   - Okay. - Okay.

00:59:12   And so I use a little pen loop,

00:59:14   which I keep my iPad attached to it forever.

00:59:17   And also say, if you don't wanna go down the route

00:59:19   of the Kaweco grip, but you wanna add something

00:59:21   to stop your Apple Pencil from rolling around,

00:59:24   You can add a pen clip that work with the Fisher Space Pen,

00:59:28   which is a little pen that is like basically

00:59:30   the exact dimensions and thickness.

00:59:32   So I've always used those as well

00:59:34   before I got this Kaweco thing.

00:59:35   So I just have a little clip.

00:59:37   So when I put my Apple Pencil down, it won't roll away.

00:59:39   So that is it.

00:59:41   That's the Apple Pen, the apps we use

00:59:43   and the accessories we use.

00:59:45   So now I have this one place

00:59:47   that I can send people to forever.

00:59:49   - All right.

00:59:50   Just tell them right after the Roomba talk.

00:59:53   Just jump in right after the Roomba and you'll get what you want.

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01:01:52   Should we do some #askcortex questions?

01:01:55   It's been a while since we've done some #askcortex. Yeah, let's do that.

01:02:00   Let's go with Rinaldi's question first. Rinaldi wants to know, "Gray, what font

01:02:04   do you use for your scripts?"

01:02:07   - Okay, so this is an interesting time to ask.

01:02:12   Let me back up and say, I have a very strong opinion here

01:02:19   that if you are doing anything that's a kind of writing

01:02:22   on the computer, you have to go with a mono spaced font.

01:02:27   A mono spaced font where all the letters are the same size,

01:02:31   that is what you want.

01:02:33   I think it's just nicer for looking through something

01:02:38   and editing something for all of the letters

01:02:39   to be the same size, like it's an old fashioned typewriter.

01:02:42   - What does that mean, the same size?

01:02:45   - It means that all the letters are the same width.

01:02:47   - Okay, so it's the same space always, right?

01:02:51   So like, if you're writing a word that has the letter I

01:02:53   in the middle, it doesn't squish down on either side.

01:02:56   - It doesn't squish down on either side.

01:02:58   Now, I think when you're reading something normally,

01:03:02   Like you're reading a book on your Kindle.

01:03:04   You don't want a monospace font.

01:03:05   It would drive you crazy.

01:03:06   I think that's a very different experience.

01:03:08   But I really think that there is something beneficial

01:03:11   about when you're writing something

01:03:13   to have this even look across the page

01:03:17   that all of, like the width of all of the letters

01:03:19   are the same.

01:03:20   There's something about it that just makes it much easier

01:03:22   to quickly compare previous lines

01:03:27   or to know how long things are.

01:03:28   Like I feel very, very strongly about monospace fonts.

01:03:31   I think it's interesting about that. I've never really used monospace fonts because up until like two years ago I didn't know what it meant.

01:03:37   But I am prone to almost, especially in my friend group, I have a real reputation of just making horrific spelling blunders.

01:03:50   Which are based upon the fact that I'm very bad at recognising something is misspelt.

01:03:56   I'm not a bad speller, but like I type something incorrectly and I always miss it

01:04:01   and I wonder if a monospace font would help me with that because I might be able to

01:04:08   Spot my misspellings a little bit easier

01:04:11   Well, I mean I'll tell you as a horrific speller myself

01:04:15   absolutely

01:04:18   horrific

01:04:19   So bad that many an English teacher told me that this would hold me back in my life significantly

01:04:25   if I didn't learn how to spell, a monospace font does not help with that at all. I spelled

01:04:32   just as badly with a monospace font as I do with a regular font. It helps not at all.

01:04:41   This is, for anybody that's not aware of this, this is probably my crowning achievement in life

01:04:47   now at this point, that the most important tweet that I have ever written, which was the tweet in

01:04:53   which I was announcing to the world that I was quitting my day job.

01:04:57   Oh god, that makes me awkward just to hear you started to tell me.

01:05:00   To become a professional podcaster. The tweet ended with professional podcasters. I added

01:05:07   an S to the end of podcaster. So in what was maybe the most important 140 characters

01:05:14   to me that I will ever write, that was there. But however, I now kind of wear that particular

01:05:21   mistake as a badge of honor looking back on it because it's funnier to me because now

01:05:26   it's a meme that I see pop up every now and then which which is it's now I now I embrace

01:05:31   it at the time I just wanted to die. Editable tweets would be a great just a great thing

01:05:38   to have at this point but yeah sure would it's never gonna happen.

01:05:44   So if you are looking for monospace font, the thing that I would recommend doing is

01:05:51   just Google around for programmer fonts, because it's a similar thing that if you're a computer

01:05:57   programmer, then it becomes an absolute necessity that the font is monospaced. That that is

01:06:02   not a style preference. Like if you are a computer programmer and you're not using a

01:06:06   monospace font, you're crazy. You can't do that. So I would Google around, there's a

01:06:12   There's a whole bunch of different ones, and I would say the one that I have used by far

01:06:17   the most over the years is a font called In Consolata.

01:06:23   I think it's a nice trade-off between readability and monospaceness if someone's wanting to

01:06:33   get into the monospace font.

01:06:35   I feel like that one is always my default.

01:06:39   I'm never 100% satisfied with it

01:06:41   because I feel like it almost does too good of a job

01:06:44   of looking like it's not monospaced,

01:06:47   even while it is being it.

01:06:48   But so I recommend that one as the place to start.

01:06:51   That is the one that I've used the most over the years.

01:06:54   I have recently switched to a different

01:06:59   and quite stylistically dramatic monospaced font

01:07:04   that I'm liking a lot for writing the scripts in.

01:07:08   But I'm going to have to keep it a secret right now what that font actually is.

01:07:14   I don't want to say it out loud.

01:07:17   I'll just say that it's going to appear in a video at some point.

01:07:22   And that's the font I've been using.

01:07:24   But I don't want to give it away right now what monospace font I'm actually using.

01:07:28   I cannot get my head around what it's going to give away.

01:07:34   Right?

01:07:35   Obviously the reason you're not talking about it is that if you talk about it, it gives something away.

01:07:40   It would be my expectation.

01:07:42   And like, what could that mean?

01:07:45   I don't know, Myke.

01:07:45   Coming soon to CGP Grey's YouTube channel.

01:07:47   Font reviews with Grey. That's what it is. Now we know. It's your spinoff.

01:07:52   Maybe it gives away nothing. I just don't want other people to use the font until I go public with it.

01:07:58   Maybe that's it.

01:07:59   Maybe it gives away the entire topic.

01:08:01   Grey, are you a font hipster?

01:08:02   [laughs]

01:08:04   It's all about brands, Myke.

01:08:06   I was using fonts back when nobody knew about them.

01:08:09   It was just cool.

01:08:10   This is where someone on Twitter tells us what a typeface is.

01:08:13   And I forget immediately.

01:08:14   We did this recently.

01:08:16   I think we got away with it.

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01:09:42   Daniel wants to know how the Switch is going.

01:09:45   Have you been playing much Nintendo Switch recently?

01:09:48   I mean, I could say obviously I have.

01:09:50   I play my Nintendo Switch a lot.

01:09:52   Have you?

01:09:54   Uh, you know, sort of.

01:09:58   Sometimes it's a Mario Kart machine, and I remember that it's a Mario Kart machine sometimes,

01:10:03   and that's just about it.

01:10:05   I think that you are in the market, like you're in the kind of the segment of a Switch owner

01:10:11   who will buy like one or two games a year,

01:10:13   which is like a perfectly valid purchaser,

01:10:16   like who's not gonna buy lots and lots of games,

01:10:19   but like once or twice a year,

01:10:21   Nintendo is gonna bring out a big first party title

01:10:23   that's gonna find its way into your home and you'll enjoy,

01:10:26   but you're not gonna enjoy all of them.

01:10:28   You know, and I've been that way in the past with consoles

01:10:30   and I'm kind of that way with my PlayStation now,

01:10:33   where like there's gonna be a couple of games a year

01:10:35   on the PlayStation that I'm gonna want for the PlayStation,

01:10:39   but won't be playing the majority of my gaming there.

01:10:42   - Yeah, I mean, my pre-order copy of Kirby just arrived,

01:10:47   but I haven't had a chance to open it and try it out,

01:10:50   so I'll see how that is.

01:10:51   - Now, why did you buy that?

01:10:53   - I don't know, I remember I liked Kirby when I was a kid.

01:10:55   - Okay.

01:10:56   - I pre-ordered it so long ago I didn't remember,

01:10:59   and it showed, I was like, "What's this package?"

01:11:01   And I opened it up, and I was like, "Oh, hey, Kirby.

01:11:03   "I don't remember ordering you, I guess I did."

01:11:06   And this is also apparently so long ago,

01:11:08   it was before I knew that you could download things on the Switch like you

01:11:11   helpfully explained to me because I thought it was still all cartridges.

01:11:13   It's like, what do you mean there's an online store?

01:11:18   Yeah, yeah, okay. I've played the Kirby demo and it didn't really grab me but I've never enjoyed

01:11:25   Kirby games so that wasn't really one for me.

01:11:29   Yeah, I really like them but you know anytime you want to Myke we can talk about Super Mario

01:11:33   Galaxy, I know. Or Super Mario Odyssey? Which one was it? No, it's okay. We can talk about

01:11:40   it anytime, Myke. I played that one. I played that one all the way to the end. Are there

01:11:45   any games in your life right now that you're enjoying a lot? No, I've been in a bit of

01:11:49   a no-video-game phase. I feel like there's many things in my life that are on these sine

01:11:54   waves and video games and podcasts and audiobooks are like these overlapping sine waves where

01:12:00   They always go in these phases.

01:12:02   And I'm in a bit of a no video game phase lately.

01:12:06   So yeah, I haven't picked up anything lately

01:12:08   that I really like.

01:12:09   But I understand, Myke,

01:12:12   that if there are video games that you're really enjoying,

01:12:16   there's a place that I can hear about those video games.

01:12:19   Where is that place, Myke?

01:12:20   - Relay.fm/playingforfun.

01:12:23   - Ah!

01:12:24   - That's a great place to go.

01:12:25   Yep. (laughs)

01:12:27   - Are you uncomfortable with the opening

01:12:29   that I gave you to promote your own show, Myke.

01:12:31   - I didn't see it coming.

01:12:32   - Was it so direct that it made you uncomfortable?

01:12:35   - Well, no, 'cause there's a thing that we're gonna do

01:12:37   and I didn't know if I wanted to mention it or not.

01:12:38   Look, we're gonna play Portal 2 together and stream it.

01:12:42   - Oh, that's a good idea.

01:12:44   That's a good idea.

01:12:45   - And I didn't know if I wanted to mention it or not.

01:12:48   - Well, you've mentioned it now.

01:12:49   - 'Cause we don't have the dates locked down for it, yeah.

01:12:53   - This is a Cortex content exclusive reveal.

01:12:56   That's what you've just given us.

01:12:58   Again, you're having real trouble today understanding where the boundaries of what's in and out of the show are and what's happened to you.

01:13:04   [Laughter]

01:13:06   Yeah, sorry listeners. Myke is in a bit of a funny mood behind the scenes here.

01:13:10   No, this has to go in the show, right? Listeners, Myke is in a bit of a funny mood, and so he keeps phasing in and out of what's in the show and what's not in the show.

01:13:19   in the show. Myke doesn't know, and I just keep bringing it back. And then Myke is frustrated

01:13:24   that I've turned his personal woes into what I think is pure gold Cortex content.

01:13:31   So I guess then, you can also go to twitch.tv/playingforfunfm and you can follow me and Tif on Twitch,

01:13:40   and we're going to be playing Portal 2 soon. I guess you can get notifications for that

01:13:46   or whatever, maybe we'll upload it to YouTube too

01:13:49   or something as well.

01:13:49   You're killing me today, you're killing me.

01:13:52   - I'm not killing you, I'm helping you, Myke.

01:13:54   - I don't know if you are.

01:13:55   Vex wants to know, did either of you receive

01:13:58   any advice on self-employment or entrepreneurship

01:14:00   either by your family or some other person or entity

01:14:04   before you decided to go out on your own?

01:14:07   And what do you think about entrepreneurship courses?

01:14:10   - Well, Myke, you're the man who lived

01:14:14   in the business world.

01:14:15   I don't know what I think about courses. I've never taken any. I would say only pay for

01:14:33   a course if there's nobody, literally nobody in your life that can give you advice about

01:14:41   this. Like, if there is no one in your life that can give you advice or at least tell

01:14:48   you where to go for advice that they got, you shouldn't do a course. Like, if you're

01:14:56   in a situation where there is nobody in your life that is able to help you, then give it

01:15:00   ago. The reason I say this is because there are a lot of almost snake oil like things

01:15:11   in the entrepreneurship world. I genuinely believe that they're not all like this, that

01:15:18   there are gen- like there are people that believe that they can genuinely help and do

01:15:22   help, but I wouldn't want to say that it is like a constant, you know, that every single

01:15:27   entrepreneurship course is going to help you. I would also say any entrepreneurship course

01:15:32   that you are going to go on, just do some research about the person who is giving it to you. Because

01:15:39   if their literal only entrepreneurship is this course, then I would maybe question how helpful

01:15:47   they could be. Like if the only thing that they've ever been successful at is giving these courses,

01:15:52   that they don't have experience running another business, then I would question it because

01:15:58   what entrepreneurship do they actually know? Anyway, so I have a lot of problems with these

01:16:04   types of things. So like these courses, like there are a lot of like online courses that you

01:16:08   can take from like experts that are only their only experience is this thing that they do.

01:16:14   So I get really wary about a lot of stuff like that. So do some due diligence on the person that

01:16:20   that you will be paying probably a lot of money to.

01:16:24   So that's my feeling on those things.

01:16:26   The reason I say all of this is because

01:16:29   all of the advice that I got was from people that knew me.

01:16:33   And I think that there is so much importance

01:16:36   to be placed in that, that if you can get advice

01:16:39   on this stuff from someone that you know

01:16:42   that you already have a relationship with,

01:16:44   they're gonna know enough about you

01:16:46   to be able to make some recommendations

01:16:48   that they know will or won't work with you.

01:16:50   So all of my advice, all of my help, all of my assistance that I ever got and continue to get

01:16:57   comes from people that I have a relationship with.

01:17:00   Yeah, that's one of the things with giving advice in general that's tricky.

01:17:07   Like even in this moment here, like people ask us, ask Cortex questions.

01:17:10   We are giving advice about giving advice, which is an interesting paradox to be in.

01:17:15   But nobody's paying us for this.

01:17:17   - But like, you know, the podcast is obviously

01:17:21   a money-making venture.

01:17:23   I like doing the questions, but it is always a moment

01:17:25   I'm very aware of that a person is asking a question

01:17:28   and the entirety of their life has been condensed down

01:17:31   into a sentence or two to fit on Twitter.

01:17:33   And so you have to sort of talk about it

01:17:36   in a very general way.

01:17:41   Hopefully you do have people in your life

01:17:44   that can know you and talk to you directly about this kind of stuff.

01:17:50   And like I was very lucky that both of my parents,

01:17:57   I would not say that they are entrepreneurs

01:18:00   because that's a word that has become sort of poisoned.

01:18:04   And it's like someone introduces themselves as an entrepreneur.

01:18:06   -It's such a shame because it's such a good word.

01:18:08   -It is a good word, but it's this weird thing

01:18:12   where we're always losing words in English, right?

01:18:17   Because too many people start piling onto them.

01:18:21   And it's like, oh, now if, as happens,

01:18:25   if I'm somewhere and I meet someone

01:18:27   and they introduce themselves to me as an entrepreneur,

01:18:29   it's like my mental Bayesian filter

01:18:32   has put it at 80% probability

01:18:34   that this person is some kind of business sphincter

01:18:38   that just spews hot air constantly.

01:18:41   like, ah, that's probably what you do.

01:18:43   Because entrepreneur is just like,

01:18:46   you talk a lot about how you're doing things.

01:18:49   That's probably what this means now.

01:18:51   You okay over there, Myke?

01:18:53   - Yeah, I'm good.

01:18:54   I'm all good.

01:18:55   I have realized now, like in my tirade,

01:18:58   like the irony of this show, right?

01:19:02   Like in that, and I understand if people feel that way

01:19:05   about what we're doing here, right?

01:19:07   Like talking about our productivity.

01:19:09   Because there is a thing that I find really funny

01:19:12   that people mention, like, you know,

01:19:14   no, I'm not gonna get into this.

01:19:16   Like the you, what do you do?

01:19:17   I think that's like, what do you think,

01:19:19   there's nothing, it takes nothing to do this stuff?

01:19:22   Oh, he doesn't make videos anymore, so he doesn't work.

01:19:25   Anyway.

01:19:26   - Myke, I need no defending.

01:19:29   - No, but it, no, because it annoys me

01:19:32   because people were like talking that my work

01:19:35   is nothing work.

01:19:36   Like, podcasting, that's a piece of b*tch, right?

01:19:40   Like, doesn't take anything.

01:19:42   Oh, you're not making a YouTube video, so you're not actually doing any work.

01:19:46   [laughter]

01:19:48   Anyway.

01:19:49   There's the problem, Myke. When you make something sound natural and conversational,

01:19:53   it doesn't sound like it's anything.

01:19:55   Yeah, I guess so. I guess you're right.

01:19:57   Even if there are a thousand cuts...

01:20:00   Yeah, I guess there's a weird compliment in that, right?

01:20:03   Yeah, it shouldn't sound like it's any work.

01:20:04   it should sound like we just, we're just hanging out.

01:20:07   But along those, like sort of along those lines

01:20:11   and having a meta conversation

01:20:13   about this very show itself is,

01:20:15   so well I wouldn't say that my parents were entrepreneurs.

01:20:18   Both of my parents were very entrepreneurial.

01:20:22   Like they had successful side businesses that made money

01:20:27   and they had successful side projects

01:20:30   and they were always thinking about other stuff to do,

01:20:34   Like my father was self-employed

01:20:37   and my mom was a flight attendant,

01:20:40   which just like me becoming a teacher,

01:20:42   it was a career that gave an enormous number of hours

01:20:45   of free time if you did it right.

01:20:46   And so she spun off successful businesses on the side.

01:20:50   Like they were both very entrepreneurial

01:20:54   and I think growing up and just seeing that was very useful.

01:20:58   My parents never really spoke about it explicitly,

01:21:02   But I think just seeing that happen was good when I was a kid or my parents,

01:21:08   uh, sometimes very much against my will involving me in their entrepreneurial

01:21:14   side businesses, uh, right.

01:21:15   Was also,

01:21:16   Hey, it's summer!

01:21:17   Yeah.

01:21:21   I, I don't know if I've told you this on the podcast, Myke, but the one, the one

01:21:25   which at the time I've felt deeply ambivalent about, but now I look back on

01:21:29   like, "Oh, that was a good thing that I did," was still to this day, I've asked my father so many times,

01:21:35   I've never quite figured out, like, how exactly did this happen, but my mom was making jewelry

01:21:43   and selling it at these very upscale craft fairs, which I don't quite think these things exist in the modern world

01:21:49   the way they did when I was growing up, because I think something about them is a little bit pre-internetty dependent.

01:21:54   - It's Etsy now. That's where that stuff goes.

01:21:57   Yeah, it's kind of like Etsy, but for the very top of the market in very particular neighborhoods.

01:22:02   Oh buddy, you can get some expensive stuff on Etsy, let me tell you. Like, it's not all cheap.

01:22:07   Yeah, it was hard to describe it. So my mom spun this off, and that was an example where, like,

01:22:14   sometimes she would bring me into Manhattan with her while she was making inventory purchases,

01:22:19   like for the beads and the jewels and things that she needed. And it's like,

01:22:21   like, "Oh, it's interesting to see that."

01:22:23   And obviously my father, who was a lawyer and a tax attorney,

01:22:28   like had done a bunch of these things,

01:22:30   the gears were spinning in his head during these weekends.

01:22:34   And I don't know how it happened,

01:22:36   but somehow my father was like,

01:22:38   "Oh, I know what I'll do at these upscale craft fairs.

01:22:42   I'm going to sell pretzels that are made by the Amish."

01:22:47   And my dad somehow got like this Amish connection

01:22:51   where we would go to a Pennsylvania Dutch village

01:22:54   and be wholesale buying a bunch of their handmade pretzels

01:22:59   and then bringing them to a chocolate factory

01:23:02   to get them dipped in chocolate

01:23:03   and then selling them at these craft fairs.

01:23:06   And my dad had somehow been able to talk his way

01:23:10   out of being lumped in with the other food vendors.

01:23:12   He's like, "Oh no, this isn't food.

01:23:14   This is handcrafted by the Amish.

01:23:17   I deserve to be in the craft section of this market.

01:23:21   So we were the only food vendors in this whole area.

01:23:26   And I will never forget as a kid, my dad's like,

01:23:28   "Guess what, son? You're selling pretzels now."

01:23:31   (laughs)

01:23:33   - You have never told me this story.

01:23:35   - That is wild.

01:23:36   - It was really wild.

01:23:37   - Why did your dad ever get this into his head?

01:23:41   - I don't know.

01:23:41   I've been through this many times with him

01:23:43   and I can never quite figure out exactly how it got started

01:23:46   or like, who was the Amish guy you knew who started this off?

01:23:49   Like, I don't, I don't really understand.

01:23:50   - That's a wheeler dealer.

01:23:51   Like, he was a tax attorney.

01:23:54   Like, why would he want to sell pretzels?

01:23:56   That's so funny.

01:23:57   - Yeah, keep in mind, like during all this time,

01:23:59   he's doing his law practice as well.

01:24:01   But those, those weekends, I was, I was just like

01:24:05   the kid who was now selling pretzels with my father.

01:24:07   And it was, it was a great experience.

01:24:11   Like, I'm really glad that it was a thing that I did.

01:24:13   But like, that, that was kind of like,

01:24:15   you're getting wrapped up in these entrepreneurial activities,

01:24:18   whether you like it or not.

01:24:19   And I certainly didn't like it at the time

01:24:21   because I was terrified that some of my classmates

01:24:25   would see me at these things,

01:24:26   but luckily they were far enough away from where I grew up.

01:24:28   And the other thing that,

01:24:31   even though I was kind of embarrassed to be there at first,

01:24:33   I sure couldn't help but notice

01:24:35   that we couldn't collect the money fast enough.

01:24:37   The fact that my dad had talked his way

01:24:40   into being away from all the other food,

01:24:43   It was just like collecting money for eight hours a day.

01:24:48   And I was like, aha, well, well, well,

01:24:50   this sort of changes the concept of the idea about like,

01:24:55   what can you do that people want to give you money?

01:25:01   And we did it for a number of years

01:25:02   and built up reputations where people knew that,

01:25:05   like, even though we showed up with several truckloads

01:25:08   of these pretzels, we would sell them all out

01:25:10   before like 3 p.m.

01:25:11   So people knew they had to come

01:25:12   get the pretzel straight away.

01:25:14   That's like my growing up with entrepreneurial activities

01:25:19   around me, but the thing that's a little bit of a capper

01:25:21   on this is another thing that I don't know how it happens.

01:25:25   My father ended up running, while he was selling pretzels,

01:25:28   while he was also a lawyer, a night school,

01:25:31   like running classes for adults in the evening.

01:25:36   And he taught entrepreneurship in one of these classes.

01:25:41   Like, he was running the thing,

01:25:42   and he also did a class on entrepreneurship.

01:25:45   And he was a great teacher,

01:25:47   but the thing he always told me was,

01:25:49   people who go to classes on entrepreneurship,

01:25:51   they don't start businesses.

01:25:52   People who start businesses,

01:25:53   they just start their businesses.

01:25:55   They don't go to classes about how to start the business.

01:25:58   And I thought that was, that was like a--

01:26:01   - That is very good advice.

01:26:02   - It was a very interesting point.

01:26:04   And he's like, people you see

01:26:06   come to two entrepreneurship classes,

01:26:08   you know they're never going to start a business.

01:26:11   It's just not going to happen.

01:26:12   And I personally would dial back my dad's advice

01:26:17   a little bit because I can't remember where I heard

01:26:21   this joke, but I heard a joke that I think is applicable

01:26:24   across many things.

01:26:25   And it was a joke about going to improv classes.

01:26:29   And the joke is the first improv class you go to,

01:26:33   it makes you funnier because you learn some of the structure

01:26:36   of humor.

01:26:38   And every improv class you go to after the first one

01:26:41   makes you less funny.

01:26:42   And I feel like that can be applied

01:26:45   probably to many things.

01:26:47   I bet that going to the first business class

01:26:50   for a lot of people,

01:26:51   or the first class about how to write,

01:26:54   or the first class about many skills

01:26:57   that you can develop on your own,

01:26:59   I think there can be value in the first one.

01:27:01   But not only is there maybe not value in the second one,

01:27:06   but there's negative value in the second one.

01:27:09   So that's the big picture thought there on,

01:27:11   like, self-employment and/or entrepreneurship stuff.

01:27:15   -Pretzels, man.

01:27:17   -Yeah.

01:27:17   Got me through college, those pretzels.

01:27:19   Like, it literally paid for my college education.

01:27:22   Boxes and boxes of pretzels.

01:27:24   -That's what the "P" stands for in CGP.

01:27:26   It's pretzels. -No.

01:27:27   It's not what the "P" stands for.

01:27:29   -Chocolate-garnished pretzels gray.

01:27:31   -Yeah, perfect. Yeah.

01:27:32   That's exactly it. -I nailed it.

01:27:33   I cracked the code, everyone.

01:27:34   I did it.

01:27:35   (laughing)