0:00:00Hello.
0:00:02This is not developing perspective, or at least not in the way that you may have expected.
0:00:07My name is still David Smith, but today I instead am doing a quick episode to announce
0:00:13something that I'm extraordinarily excited about.
0:00:16I am delighted to say that I'm starting a new podcast discussing my experiences and
0:00:22perspectives on development.
0:00:24It's called Under the Radar, and it's going to be on the Find Real AFM network.
0:00:29And rather than just being myself kind of monologuing into my closet by myself, I'm
0:00:34delighted to say that it's going to be co-hosted with Marco Arment.
0:00:40Back in the day when I first started doing podcasting, one of the things that really
0:00:44got me into it was back in 2010, there's a little podcast called Build and Analyze with
0:00:51Marco Arment and Dan Benjamin.
0:00:54And I wasn't particularly familiar with either of them and their work before I started listening
0:00:58into this podcast, but it seemed relevant to my work.
0:01:00Marco was a mobile app developer,
0:01:02or at least starting to be, and it just drew me in.
0:01:07And I remember distinctly sitting down every week,
0:01:11I listened live in the chat rooms, adjusted titles.
0:01:14It was one of the things that,
0:01:15one of the highlights of my week each week
0:01:18was listening to Build and Analyze.
0:01:20And in many ways, it was the show that got me
0:01:24into podcasting in the first place,
0:01:26that seeing the impact that Build and Analyze
0:01:29had had on my own career,
0:01:32and the ability for me to learn from Marco's mistakes,
0:01:35learn from his successes,
0:01:37to see and share and to appreciate what he was doing
0:01:40in sharing his experience made me want to start podcasting.
0:01:43And so, back in July of 2011, I did that.
0:01:48I started doing Developing Perspective
0:01:50and have fairly consistently been able to do it ever since
0:01:53for just shy of four and a half years.
0:01:56It's something that I'm very proud of.
0:01:59And developing perspective is probably one of the most
0:02:03important to me outputs of my work
0:02:05in the last four and a half years.
0:02:07It's something that I really,
0:02:11it's a funny thing to describe,
0:02:13but I'm so glad that I have to be able to look back
0:02:16and refer to, that it captures my work
0:02:18and what I was thinking and what I was doing
0:02:20in a way that is hard to recreate.
0:02:23But it's time, I think, to embark on something new.
0:02:27And that's where this idea for starting a new podcast
0:02:29and to start one with Marco came from.
0:02:32It's to try and find a different way,
0:02:36to find a way to more richly
0:02:38and deeply share my experiences.
0:02:40The thing that I've always most struggled with
0:02:43with developing perspective
0:02:44is that because it's just one voice,
0:02:46because it's just me sitting down for 15 minutes
0:02:49and pouring out my thoughts, there's no back and forth.
0:02:52There's no dialogue.
0:02:53There's nothing forcing me to go deeper
0:02:58and to challenge the assumptions I'm making
0:03:00and to have kind of a rich discussion,
0:03:02to have kind of that experience
0:03:04where you start off thinking one thing
0:03:06and someone asks you a few probing questions
0:03:08and you can end up in a much better place.
0:03:10It's something that I wish I would have had
0:03:13in developing perspective.
0:03:15And now I'm so delighted to finally have,
0:03:17find the right venue, find the right opportunity to do that.
0:03:21So we're starting a new podcast, Marco and I.
0:03:23It's called Under the Radar.
0:03:24It'll be on relay FM, like I said.
0:03:26It'll never be longer than 30 minutes.
0:03:28So if you like the shorter, more focused version
0:03:30that you've probably gotten used to
0:03:32on Developing Perspective, it still has that going for it.
0:03:34And we're just gonna talk about being,
0:03:37what it's like being a developer today.
0:03:38In many ways, if you liked building an analyze
0:03:41back in the day, or you've been enjoying
0:03:42Developing Perspective, I'm sure you'll find it
0:03:45good, useful, engaging.
0:03:47We're gonna be discussing many of the same things,
0:03:49what it's like to be a developer,
0:03:50the challenges we face, the opportunities we see,
0:03:52the lessons we've learned.
0:03:53As we're going through projects and developing them,
0:03:55I'm sure we'll discuss them.
0:03:57And it's just trying to capture what it is
0:03:59to be a developer in these days.
0:04:01And probably, you know, with an emphasis
0:04:02on being an independent app developer,
0:04:04the thing that we both are and that we share,
0:04:07and the difficulties and challenges
0:04:09that come from being that are kind of,
0:04:11in many ways, a unique thing.
0:04:12So I'd encourage you to subscribe.
0:04:15There's gonna be a bunch of links in the show notes,
0:04:16And I really hope that you enjoy the show
0:04:20and can find a way to fit it into your podcasting playlist.
0:04:25And as I wrap this up though,
0:04:28I just wanted to say how grateful I am
0:04:29for everybody who supported Developing Perspective
0:04:32over the last four and a half years.
0:04:33It's became something that I never imagined
0:04:35when I started off that it could ever be.
0:04:38I started off just me,
0:04:39and if you go back and listen to episode one,
0:04:41it's me with a Logitech USB headset that I had for gaming,
0:04:46just talking at my desk and the quality is kind of terrible.
0:04:50The way I spoke was kind of terrible,
0:04:52but that was the start of something
0:04:54that has been a very important part in my life,
0:04:58both professionally and personally.
0:04:59I've met a lot of people through podcasting.
0:05:01I've had a lot of opportunities open up to me as a result
0:05:05of sharing my experiences.
0:05:06And I'm very grateful for that.
0:05:07And that is in many ways possible
0:05:09just because of listeners like you
0:05:11who have supported me in it,
0:05:12who have encouraged me to continue doing it
0:05:15and there have been times when I didn't want to do it for whatever reason,
0:05:19you know, that there is nothing more motivating than someone saying,
0:05:21"Oh, I really miss your show. When's the next episode?"
0:05:23And I wanted to say thank you for that.
0:05:26Anyway, I hope you enjoy the new show.
0:05:28Like I said, I think you really will if you liked this one.
0:05:30And, you know, on to better and new things.
0:05:34Let's get started.