The Incomparable

00:00:00 ◼   ► the incomparable number 269 October 2015 [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► go back everybody to the uncomfortable [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► i'm your host Jason L it is time comrade [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► to talk about john mctiernan other [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► fantastic movie we already talked about [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► die hard long time ago but he made [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► another movie that i would consider [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► classic it is nineteen nineties the hunt [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► for red october and i have three people [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► who have quoted the movie extensively to [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► me joining people on this episode [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► because you didn't even have to watch [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► the movie because it's only right I i [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► just heard your voices as we as we [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► watched it so i give us one chance in [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► three here are the three CI look what [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► I'm doing here [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► Casey list joins us for the first time [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► in the uncomfortable Casey I wouldn't [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► have done this episode without you [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► thank you so very happy thank you very [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► much i am super excited to be here and [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► if there was ever a time i was going to [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► feel confident in being in the big [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► leagues of pop culture pond cat [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► podcasting it will be about this movie [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► which i probably could quote most of [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► what we do our sneakers episode you'll [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► be back [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► I mean uh huh also hope perhaps hosting [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► that episode because he loves it so much [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► another person I would not do this [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► episode without Dan Morgan hello hello [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► it's so good to be here on this cramped [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► submarine with you gentlemen [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► m- i missed the piece of fishing is what [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► i'm saying i understand this [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► oh uh also joining us the person who has [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► said you arrogant ass you've killed us [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► to me more times than I then i can count [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► mr. Philip Michaels how well i noticed [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► that you could do the podcast without [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► babycenter to indispensable Michaels [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► weekend no no I you have all three of [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► you could and where you were all [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► mandatory guess [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► anyhow this reminds me of the heady days [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► of Sputnik and you're all done the world [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► travel dinner podcast tonight they will [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► tremble at our awkward silence [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► well done i should explain with a [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► prologue could you do it [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► it's free this movie was set during the [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► Cold War which awkward was kind of over [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► by the time the movie [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► yeah I i just want to sort of begin with [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► an opening statement now say someone [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► else's check here but arm i can take or [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► leave tom clancy books I i really find [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► them kind of kind of tree [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► I think Sean Connery doesn't really act [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► in this movie I Alec Baldwin I've never [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► really liked him either as an as an [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► actor and you mentioned the two good [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► john mctiernan movies that exist and yet [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► i love this movie more than I love air [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► haha this is one of the greatest movies [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► of my of my teenage years and indeed one [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► and that makes it one of the greatest [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► movies of all time [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► it's like a logical mhm any other any [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► other opening statements this is i would [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► like to say that that uh mymy friends [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► and I in high school used to practice [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► our Sean Connery accidents by saying a [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► line that is not even in this movie [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► which is just going around saying I'm a [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► Russian submarine that was a pick-up [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► line to use one is moving us alone [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► that's the light well yeah i feel like i [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► should pitch in and just say that [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► nothing of what you're about to hear [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► never happened it never happened but as [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► you as you're saying that the movie came [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► out in 1990 just as the Soviet Union was [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► collapsing yes the moment and at which [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► is why they added the prologue is they [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► were little Godard movie is ruined [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► pieces breaking out i remember reading i [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► think probably like an article in [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► Newsweek or something about the problem [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► that they had we're selling out cold war [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► movie in the heady days after the cold [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► air where strike is over yeah yeah and [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► the insert and there is there is [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► dialogue inserted in the movie about [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► about how perhaps this event is what [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► causes at the very end [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► rainia says a little revolution now and [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► then is a healthy thing don't you think [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► I'm not gonna do my Sean Connery that [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► oh don't worry people will people don't [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► feel that good idea [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► the nice thing about that is that were [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► so far removed from that now that you [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► can just view it as a like early [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► nineteen eighties cold war movie to a [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► certain DN indeed now it doesn't it [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► doesn't matter in fact now the prologue [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► is a little bit weird and unnecessary [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► because it's just an old movie although [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► i did but my mind boggled when i looked [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► it up on IMDb and I saw that it was [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► released in 1990 because it feels and [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► this is dr. credit it feels so [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► mid-eighties in fact it feels so the [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► movie that actually it reminds me of the [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► most is star trek to uh we just all so [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► kind of a submarine movie now and and [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► it's it's gotta you know it's got some [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► harry shouting people like like 200 but [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► it's a sub-sub chase and that the the [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► score here which is not by james horner [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► but it is it sounds so much like the [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► star trek to soundtrack and that movie [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► is from 192 yeah so it has that [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► mid-eighties feel even though it's from [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► well we can we can get to this later in [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► the episode if you want but basically [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► submarine movies or space movies and [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► space movies except yes this is true [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► well I will say that I also i went on a [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► kick I think are probably around after [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► I'd seen this movie and read in college [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► a bunch of the Tata tom clancy books I [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► think about that was a poor decision [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► yes well at the time it was you know [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► that they're thrillers right there [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► techno-thriller there they're definitely [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► page-turners got what I went along they [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► definitely got worse as they went along [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► although some he's very good at [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► maintaining that sort of like phonetic [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► totally tense element of suspense like [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► he's very mechanically solid I in [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► retrospect I think hunt for red october [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► maybe the only really good book with [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► Vicki ever wrote but it is a very good [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► book i think a and they do a great job [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► of adapting it to a film hear that that [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► really works you know sometimes you get [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► lucky and it's like the combination of [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► and it's not that there isn't Alan but [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► it sometimes town all the time in the [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► world won't get you a good movie but [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► it's like the source material and the [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► way it was adapted and the the way was [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► directed and the performances in a movie [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► and the music and the special effects it [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► just all comes together so yeah this is [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► going to be a love fest and that is why [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► we are here because this is such a cool [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► movie so there's a prologue explains [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► that this happened in the cold war [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► and that it never happened some people [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► will tell you it never happened never [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► happened during the cold or did it [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► already to him and so we we start with [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► I'm just going to kind of walk through [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► it and stop me when I go ahead and start [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► we start with sean connery as Marko [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► Ramius who is it's actually this is a a [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► tidbit that tom clancy I i really like [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► this because in in hindsight it is that [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► much stronger of other thing which is he [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► is lithuanian yes and uh and in the [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► movie jack ryan says he's not a Russian [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► he's a Lithuanian life it like it's like [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► a little thing that most Americans [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► wouldn't even think they're all Soviet [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► but to him it's like he he's not Russian [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► the Lithuanian were kind of invaded and [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► subjugated and of course now lithuania [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► and the rest of the Baltic countries are [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► free from the they were the first ones [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► to declare their independence from the [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► soviet union so it's a nice little [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► tidbit and he's there at the at their uh [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► he's about to take off in his in his [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► submarine for this mission it is time [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► comrade and that is the first thing we [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► see in the movie is is the the submarine [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► and that they give ya him and Sam Neill [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► who is executive officer [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► yes the somali yes I i would like to [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► make a comment about the opening title [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► the title card which appears briefly in [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► Russian and before sort of washing into [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► english they spell October totally that [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► is not russian company is correct but [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► activists spelled incorrectly like they [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► don't they and I looked this up to [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► double-check it was curious if it was [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► another so that another Slavic language [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► basically that they were sort of mixing [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► and matching and I found a couple [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► references nope they hit it spelled it [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► in a way that made it look more [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► anglicized for some reason so yes that's [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► redstart good enough that's enough [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► several letters aren't even certain that [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► they have an eye in there there's no [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► idea what my understanding from people [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► who know Russian is that the Russian in [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► this movie is terrible just yes some [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► people have better access than others in [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► the movie Connery's is terrible as you [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► know i'll cover some people try and some [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► people are Sean Connery yes we then cut [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► to its London and young young young [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► higher voiced at night not quite whiskey [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► voice yet al [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► Baldwin is you know Alec Baldwin is [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► leaving for a flight and he says goodbye [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► to his wife who is dr. crusher [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► yes our dragnet dinner without with a [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► totally weird British accent since that [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► character is not British in any of the [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► books and ironically my family an archer [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► in this subsequently and then becomes [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► keira knightley who is British and is [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► forced to do an American accent what the [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► hell anyone anything like it's shorthand [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► to say well this is this will help with [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► the geography of explaining that he's [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► flying from London private its it gets [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► out of a black cab and the next it's [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► also not entirely clear even watching it [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► that you know she could be the nanny [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► practically like it's not a lot of her [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► she had some more scenes and they got [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► cut up our eyes what is what i've i've [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► read but this was this was monumental [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► for me though because at the time when I [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► saw this I was a big next generation [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► family and so I was deal predisposed [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► from the moment I saw dr. crusher for [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► all of five seconds to really enjoy this [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► movie and from here on out I really [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► enjoyed and continue to enjoy this [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► moment but it's the doctor crusher [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► guarantee once you get that you're in [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► there although i will point out that [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► yeah I think all of the women to have [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► lines in this movie pretty much are in [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► the first like yeah minutes and that i [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► was watching this with my wife and my [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► wife says boy this movie really fails [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► the bechdel test [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► oh yeah yeah well I mean at someone like [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► scenes on the submarines understands all [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► male fleet I get that but yes it fails [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► and all the other in all the other [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► places uh but then we move on he's in [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► Washington DC he's so young and he's [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► visiting with the Admiral James Earl [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► Jones i love seeing James Earl Jones the [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► this is a nice a period for him where we [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► got him in this and in the field of [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► dreams a couple years later and sneakers [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► sneakers from him [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► naturally I feel that dreams predated [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► this by a year [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► tell you right well i thought i saw in [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► college so yeah I was the year before [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► okay yeah i have a good party together [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► this or this was the this was the this [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► was the golden era of james earl jones [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► when he had to make the really crummy [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► movies like city limits in the early [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► eighties and then he suddenly became [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► this you've got a really authoritative [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► hello he's get our theater for our movie [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► yeah let's put you in the movie and [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► young people will go home wow this is a [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► classy movie [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► yeah I think equally does I mean this [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► movie doesn't necessarily need to be [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► classed up although this point it's [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► early in the in the film but he brings [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► that really really nice kind of he's got [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► the gravitas like you got to take this [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► guy seriously but also comes across as [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► like you know a mentor and a good guy [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► like he's he's a he's a solid guy is a [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► right leg [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► yeah and he and he he's got the you know [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► he's got to talk to to Jack Ryan about [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► what was going on with the submarines [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► what Britain I don't know anything that [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► can get your information in the middle [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► of the night and then and it's a nice [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► just so your net because we don't know [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► because we don't know right so we don't [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► know why this is happening in fact i [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► think you could probably guess that he's [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► been summoned right then we get there [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► and it turns out he hasn't been summoned [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► he noticed something and hopped on a [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► plane which tells you a lot i think [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► about Jack Ryan who also got the error [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► right like he couldn't just like pop off [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► an email it's not really about the way [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► well it is secret like super top-secret [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► III give him some latitude like in in [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► this service perhaps what you can do it [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► in person [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► one of the things I love about the early [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► technology you know cold war thriller [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► era is that it is so low-tech in many [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► ways right like even though we're [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► talking about hugely technical like [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► giant submarine warfare machines the [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► fact that so much stuff has to be done [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► in person the computers don't really do [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► everything it lends just sort of it [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► maybe certain as the amount of nostalgia [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► to it I really busy today this this is [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► legal conference call on screens and [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► everyone is is weighing in and and here [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► it's him flying across across the [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► Atlantic with a couple of grainy [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► black-and-white photos that despite yeah [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► I was just about to say that these [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► pictures are so crappy which is [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► understandable because this by took them [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► like you said but they're so crappy that [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► you probably could fax these damn things [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► anyone was very much fidelity at all but [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► yeah so he gets on this point to show to [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► shadow Greer that there's something up [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► with this new Russian some yeah I'm [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► later is talking about photos one of my [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► favorite bits and I remember this when [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► the last time I thought which is [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► probably about five or ten years ago [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► when my favorite bits is when he's in [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► the briefing room scene we're going to [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► serve rabies I got a picture frame us [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► and it's like a picture of this whole [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► group of people and we're back there's [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► this little circle around Sean Connery's [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► and i love it because that feels real to [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► me like we this is the only picture we [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► have [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► this is like watching the people who [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► line up in the in the balconies during [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► the parades and doing actual Kremlin [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► ology this is this is what that is and [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► it so it totally works is we got his [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► craft and you're like what we've got his [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► facebook page yeah mp3 sequences DNA and [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► i love that like really like Waldo's [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► right next to a military is yep that's [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► correct although noted communist wearing [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► red [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► yeah cut to the USS Dallas sonar guys [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► are talking about sonar Jonesy Courtney [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► I lot more DB Vance involves you know [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► one of my coordinate be awesome [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► it's more like it so true he's so [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► delightful in the movie and in the crux [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► is that we find out that the Red October [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► is just launched and this escalates Alec [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► Baldwin's already urgency into a holy [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► realm and so where were in the sonar [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► room with Jonesy and he's tutoring his [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► protégé whose name I don't even [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► Stephen Beaumont yes thank you [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► and so he's trying to teach human bone [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► mount about sonar and makes a good joke [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► about how Stephen Beaumont ends up [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► discovering a whale who knows a hell of [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► a lot about some more about helped a lot [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► more about sonar than you do and it's [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► nice job it sets the scene of sort of [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► you know where we're going to be [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► spending a lot of this movie it throws a [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► lot of jargon at you but it also does a [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► good job of sort of translating the [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► things that you highlighting the things [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► you need to know and then sonar will be [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► important to move right exactly but they [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► usually go through a bunch of acronyms [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► they talk about like use technical terms [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► but they do both the translation and [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► they also just it immerses you without [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► necessarily making you feel like okay I [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► need to know every single detail if [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► you're if you're a screenwriting geeker [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► writing geek this is really a good movie [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► that that that that this movie really [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► handles exposition well because it could [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► have been very Legend and then obvious [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► and instead its depth and and advances [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► the story is speaking of screenwriting [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► the chief of the boat now [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► he apparently was a screenwriter which I [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► did not know until I do wow yeah i saw [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► that so let's change the world is a [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► screenwriter Larry Ferguson apparently [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► was a screenwriter as well and i thought [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► it was a fine actor [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► like I never in a million years would [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► have guessed that his real job is [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► screenwriting he's kind of a jerk to [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► Jonesy and he pulls it off well with a [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► time arguing about the Paganini [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► versatile Verratti right which I enjoy [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► that's a good line no no Pavarotti's the [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► singer packaging is a composer get it [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► right this is also good because and and [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► this goes back to what i was saying [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► about Admiral Greer that the one guy [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► could be better who is working with [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► Jones could be portrayed as an idiot or [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► Jones it could be portrayed as being a [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► jerk and that's not you get [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► professionalism from these guys right [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► they are they are professionals they are [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► they are in this submarine they are you [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► know X you know one of them is an expert [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► at his job in the other one is learning [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► and so you get the exposition but you [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► also get this tone of like these guys [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► are not are not Joker's they the these [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► are people series people who want to do [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► good and want to do a good job [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► also I always love the fact that there's [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► a roll of toilet paper hanging from a [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► thing to wipe wipe the screen off [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► because I think they use it for that [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► later which kind of makes sense but it [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► is first several times I saw this movie [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► like they not let them go to the [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► bathroom but you have to stay just a [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► picture when it as it turns out later on [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► we hear that Jonesy refuses to leave the [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► sonar room for three important reasons [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► that will come upon a moment but you [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► know it very well could be that the [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► toilet paper that was intended for the [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► screen did serve a dual purpose as a [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► turndown let's take a brief break [TS]

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00:18:11 ◼   ► shall we talk about the Red October and [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► why it needs to be hunted [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► I think I think perhaps it and I think [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► we've reached that way my only note but [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► before we get there is that [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► hey Scott Glenn is the captain a lot of1 [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► and he has gigantic glasses and I was [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► mildly time because so eighties Scotland [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► is fantastic and this I just say like [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► when I saw him most recently I thinking [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► he's in the daredevil show he plays [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► stick [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► oh yeah Matt Murdock's mentor friend [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► he's all he's still awesome [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► oh yeah he's great he is movie helper [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► you just put him in a movie as dirt is [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► better [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► ok we moved to the Red October and we [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► have we have lots of stuff that happens [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► in the Red October including famously a [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► switch from russian to english which i [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► think is it's interesting I i like it i [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► think it's a very deft way they handle [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► it which is that the brainiest comes [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► into his his a his room and the [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► political officer the spy basically for [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► this named Putin hmm also play by peter [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► firth who then goes on into a long [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► career of playing Harry the chief spy on [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► the m the british show spooks which ran [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► for like 10 or 11 years so he's yeah [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► good old girl hairy so he's reading [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► through the books and in one of the [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► books is reading through the Bible and [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► and highlighted passages including about [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► Armageddon which is part of the theme of [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► this movie right because this is that [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► this is the sub that could bring about [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► the end of the world and of course at as [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► he's reading the camera zooms into the [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► Bible and he reads the word Armageddon [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► and then as we pull immediately the [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► camera zooms back out and [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► reading in English and now we don't need [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► to listen to English and Scottish and [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► American actors doing fake Russian well [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► not all of them do fake Russian accent [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► some of them still do but they're all [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► speaking English at this point although [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► it is it is a hodgepodge of different [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► nationalities all on on like there's an [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► American on the Red October there's you [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► know a couple of breaks it's very it's [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► very all over the place it is the Tower [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► of Babel summer yeah there's not a lot [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► of still fake Russian accent I just [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► figured the Lithuanian accent translates [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► by the TARDIS translation circuits that [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► comes across the Scottish that makes [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► perfect [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► the funny thing about this was the one [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► of the first ones to watch this and [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► watch it with my dad and he was a big [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► fan of the movie from like the 60 [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► judgment at Nuremberg and he said to me [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► and I believe my eyes have seen that [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► movie wants forever ago that this zoom [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► into the mouth to switch languages that [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► was actually pulled from judgment at [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► nuremberg that's rest is that another [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► variation of it yeah incision i agree [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► though is a very clever very clean way [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► to say without being cheesy about it [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► listen we're just going to all agree to [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► talk in English from now on i also like [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► that there's a UH there's a nice [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► contrast between the submarines here a [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► lot of the on the Russian submarine a [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► lot of bustling activity it's like a [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► hive everybody's running around [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► whereas on the American submarine people [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► just started chill you know that there's [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► different lighting there's different set [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► design and so given that we're gonna [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► spend this so much money in the movie in [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► these two submarines they do a nice job [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► of setting them apart in a way that [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► they're instantly recognizable so Ramos [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► has gotten his orders he and the [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► political officer going to are going to [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► get them out and then he's gonna take [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► this everything will be fine a secret [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► silent sub that's got a special dr [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► called the caterpillar which is not [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► audible on sonar or so they think [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► and they're gonna take it out for a test [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► ride and and the political officers so [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► excited about this that he wants to [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► announce the orders to the to the the [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► the crew which radius agrees to and as [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► the political officer turns to walk out [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► the door Ramos grabs him slams his head [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► onto the table kills him and says where [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► I'm going you can't follow i [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► accidentally paused on poor Peter first [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► have space which is not specifically [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► so yeah that's an awkward death see it [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► really is for yes [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► dying is easy comedy is hard not if you [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► peter firth of this myth dying is quite [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► difficult so I have an important [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► question so i know that Jason and dan [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► you're both developed tea drinkers did [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► this did this scene really affect you [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► negatively did that really I just [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► warranty i enjoy the tea the tea [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► presence in this movie because the it's [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► to make use of drinks tea too [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► yeah or he's just get yourself some [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► coffee and bring me some tea so it's [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► like there's a tea magenta happening [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► well in and Russia baby was monitored by [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► big t bt yea the novelty in in Russia [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► they drink tea correctly on the on the [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► submarines although a little [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► precariously everything for us which is [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► the glasses [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► those are those are sort of traditional [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► russian tea drinking glasses and t is [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► certainly at least at this point [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► probably much more common in Russia than [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► coffee [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► it's a common thing for people to slip [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► on TV and die too so you know it's not [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► raining submarines are dangerous okay [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► yeah let's let's talk a little bit about [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► ships doctor Frank encoder Tim Curry [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► never really interested in is the doctor [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► which is the worst talk to her [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► it goes everything always look got some [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► tea that seems alright to me [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► well it is silvia Union you're the [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► captain I like that he also does try to [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► he's our explication vehicle for why [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► someone shouldn't have two missile keys [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► and it sort of halting leaders sure i [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► mean i could hold onto a key if you want [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► yeah but that is brilliantly shutdown [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► writers like nope I'm gonna do it and I [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► i will learn team curry I'll do you a [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► favor in that report that you gave me [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► some lip [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► yeah for which your doctor only wanted [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► was a BFF even just one and you know I [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► think this is a great again sort of [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► great plotting for how Ramos is going to [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► pull this off because you know as we are [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► sort of learning you know his his plan [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► as it goes along a lot of it relies on [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► things like the immense secrecy of what [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► they're doing the fact that he has sort [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► of absolute power now especially with [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► the political officer out of the way but [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► he is sort of still writing that knife's [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► edge and that does come back to bite him [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► as we find out in this very scene [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► there's an [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► I set up with the guy they calls over to [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► have him witness taking the key is the a [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► cook's assistant [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► hmm maybe who may be important later on [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► her lingers on him featured so [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► prominently in the strattice is nothing [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► interesting you know it's funny you guys [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► bring that up because i was rewatching [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► this earlier tonight I I feel like there [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► is an awful lot of once you've seen that [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► movie at least once really heavy [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► foreshadows is heavier than you normally [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► find any i thought about you know the [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► turbulence in the plane at the beginning [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► that comes out it's not a big plot [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► device but it comes up later we we are [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► actually we skip the scene where he goes [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► to see the DSRV getting installed that [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► becomes relevant later something that I [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► keep that I wrote down that I can't read [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► my own handwriting and we're not reading [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► your own handwriting comes into play yes [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► it's very boring nothing but I really [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► cooks assistant loco Logan officer that [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► becomes important when you watch it you [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► don't realize that they're setting all [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► that up and i think that's the good [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► thing is it seems organic that this is [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► all happening but it's alright only pays [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► off [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► i would say although it seems Telegraph [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► I think um there are enough red herrings [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► to keep you guessing like there's the [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► guy who is always smoking a cigarette [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► and staring at you with crazy eyes [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► the engineer yeah right and I favorite [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► guy don't trust that i right i don't [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► trust that guy either right because he [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► seems like why is he so weird and why do [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► we linger on him all the time and he's [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► not the the the more wetland but but [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► right i mean the end tim curry again I'm [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► just naturally suspicious of tim curry [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► so you know that could that kept me a [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► little bit off the edges and they're [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► trying to throw it away from the cook [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► system if I have to criticisms of this [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► movie it's it's to casting decisions [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► when we'll get to later and the other is [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► tim curry I'd every time to Korea [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► appears he takes me right the hell out [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► of the movie and that's probably just be [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► though you know Cee and I never got that [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► because i never saw any of the millions [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► of other movies Tim Curry has been in [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► until well after I saw the know imagine [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► me trying to watch rocky horror [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► thinking what the hell is going on right [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► now what is the doctor what is the [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► doctor in Doctor doing [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► indeed captain alright so I'm so murder [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► political officer where I'm going you [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► can't follow he says there is that scene [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► where Jack Ryan goes to the his his [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► friend at the shop shipbuilding thing [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► and and Jeffrey Jones get from ferris [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► bueller's day off and he gets the to do [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► a little exposition as well about how [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► this is the silent drive the caterpillar [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► and that its we tried to make it work [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► when we couldn't even make it work and [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► if they didn't make it work [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► they can basically blow up New York and [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► Washington before you have the bottom [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► line is it's a first strike with ya and [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► this could be the end of the world [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► because this is the shit tipping the [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► balance of power and that's when we we [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► we learned that Sean Connery is defined [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► the orders and going to sail to to the [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► the American co-star we sail into [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► history comrades engage the silent drive [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► and then when the right day contracts [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► with shaylen check your partner shelf of [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► the biggest city and listen to that rock [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► more rock and roll ocean that's good [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► what we true but it's all with the best [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► part of that is it's it's a whole line [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► of BS rightly feeding them what they [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► wanted with what I know but we don't [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► know that yet we know we don't we don't [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► know this is a nice thing that happens [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► is that he could he plays the crew he [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► knows what to say to a to a Soviet crew [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► to have them be excited to the point [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► where even after they get them off in [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► the mo their little wraps and they're [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► going to be picked up by the Americans [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► they're still looking for him ya know [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► it's brilliant sit watching it again for [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► the vantage point of having seen it [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► before you know obviously there's a lot [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► I feel like there's even more to [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► appreciate in some of the way this is [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► constructed because it is it is it works [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► both on having never seen it before [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► trying to piece out what's going on as [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► well as sort of appreciating a look at [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► the way he's he is playing the crew or [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► look at the way that he's taking [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► advantage of all these ingredients also [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► this is the point where they they start [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► to sing the Soviet national anthem boy [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► is that a long national get a simple [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► person national anthem but it allows the [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► as they engage the silent drive but it [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► allows our amid lots of music and [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► effects shots and all of this the the [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► USS Dallas has been has been trying to [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► follow them and the Red October go [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► silent but there's a great line that i [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► really liked was like I thought I heard [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► singing sir just for a second just [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► the second like I'm going maybe going [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► crazy but it's like this submarine [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► vanished and all that was left was [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► people singing the Russian national [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► anthem so fun fact in the early days of [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► the iphone when you could use it to as [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► an alarm clock did and it would just [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► play whatever music was in your library [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► i used to use the Russian national [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► anthem is my wake up song because that [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► will get you right the hell out of it [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► and it and i'm from a communist state [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► yeah well Phil and I have had this [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► discussion that if he was a major league [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► baseball player has walk-up music would [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► be the Soviet national and home [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► how could you not because no one uses it [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► an hour [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► no well I think they rewrote the lyrics [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► and it is now the russian LOL but and [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► then i have to go when the International [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► so I I this is at the point where where [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► I pointed out that every subtitle that [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► happens in this movie not that not the [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► translation subtitles but like the super [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► titles of where we are [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► has that sound effect that doesn't [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► printing on expires or something yeah [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► that is it that I feel like that that is [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► then pay you then became a troop I know [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► if it was a troll private was not a drop [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► at the time this was 1988 most [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► cutting-edge to yeah so so we kept the [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► Kremlin I gotta a general who we find [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► out is is radius is a father-in-law [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► because we're using wife had died a year [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► a year before four do with one scene i [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► love this guy [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► yeah yeah yeah good morning that role [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► it's not really a drone awful awful of [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► whether he's taking off his coat he gets [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► his tea again we got some tea action [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► happening here sit down to read the [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► letter and Markel i love his letter [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► opener but I was just about to say it [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► doesn't just over-the-top ridiculous [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► letter opener that's what I had a word i [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► know i had a briefing that because [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► there's actually like a saber on his [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► desk and when I picks up is like a [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► shorter version i kept expected this [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► time as a quick disease the giant [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► circular that's ridiculous no it's just [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► like a like a scabby dagger [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► yeah so he opened the letter and then [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► spills his tea because then slips on it [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► breaks is now something shocking and [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► this leads to and then this sets in [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► motion the finally now we have the game [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► that is being played openly between the [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► superpowers Ryan [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► it's an emergency call to give a an end [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► in a very nice seen Ryan doesn't even [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► notice he's like reading the letter are [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► reading the intelligence in in an [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► elevator and he forgets to get out for a [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► while and then he gets out and then you [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► sort of notice that he's in a tunnel [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► that's going to the White House which I [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► think he's he sort of hasn't banks where [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► we going exactly and Greer gets to break [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► it to him that we're going to an [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► emergency briefing who's giving the [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► briefing [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► well you are the regular look on his [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► face he sold it so well and he just kind [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► of freezes as Greer's walking away [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► increase kind of a can basically say [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► it'll be okay you notice at him on the [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► back you know i will be fine i will say [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► that i am I like that the establishing [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► shot where they get out of the car and [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► walk into the building they sort of [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► panic bc the white house in the [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► background i was on that Street three [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► days ago and you cannot drive down that [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► Street much less park on that street [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► because man let me tell you secure has [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► changed [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► no good old days of the Cold War yeah [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► it's perfectly safe and I only thing you [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► have to worry about with a first-strike [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► nuclear launch [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► yeah it doesn't matter if you're on the [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► street from the White House for that or [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► not know who [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► so there's a there's a briefing seen all [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► the top brass is there including like [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► the national security advisor in the [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► Chairman Jeffrey help my favorite [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► character in the movie [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► yeah is used a hero movie is really good [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► so so jackets the briefing and says this [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► is a first-strike capability everybody's [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► really upset they start arguing about [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► among ourselves [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► Ryan is sitting there he like gives gets [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► the gets a thousand-yard stare and [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► figures out something very important and [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► hits the table and shout son-of-a-bitch [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► at which point everybody else is silent [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► and it is the most embarrassing thing in [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► your first white house briefing [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► everything I want to do that at every [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► meeting I've ever you have thought dr. [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► Ryan he calls out the general who's who [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► disputes him is have you ever met in [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► general you have I have an embassy [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► function he gets told to stay after [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► class by the national security advisor [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► and as he's leaving James Earl Jones [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► says to him I said speak your mind Jack [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► but she's really shit we should point [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► out that what what Jack Ryan has figured [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► out is that this is the year anniversary [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► of [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► of radius his wife's death and that [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► instead of being a rogue sub captain [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► sailing to the u.s. to launch a missile [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► attack he is in fact probably defecting [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► yes Jack Ryan's theory right right [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► knowing that he's lithuanian knowing [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► that his wife has died knowing that he [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► has nobody left at home and that he's [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► been able to handpick his crew because [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► he's been training all of these people [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► for decades that that the most likely [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► scenario here is that he is or at least [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► a serious a scenario to be taken [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► seriously that is defecting and he tells [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► us the National Security Advisor should [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► feel this is this guy you like great [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► character because this is where he says [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► look I'm a politician a politician which [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► means I'm a lion her sheet and when I'm [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► not kissing pictures i'm figuring out a [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► way to steal their lollipops [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► but I also keep my options open oh that [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► guy that I don't know if it's like a [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► Texan accent whatever accident this is [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► it is sore lightful and it works so well [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► oh yeah I i love jeffrey felt and all [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► his future interactions with with the [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► Russian ambassador the state's yeah [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► amazing and I you will get Andre it's [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► like we will because he says I'm [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► shooting a lie right and we see in the [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► complete lack of of truth in any of the [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► diplomatic conversations that happen [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► between the u.s. and the Soviet what I [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► also love about subsequent scenes with [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► with Jeffrey Pelt is he has a big bowl [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► of candy [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► yeah you consider that he fingers [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► continuous yes but he stole from the [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► baby's still from baby but what's good [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► is that he says you know you again you [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► get the sense despite all of that he's [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► doing his job here and it's like I'm [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► gonna keep my options open i I you know [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► the generals can think what they want [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► but I you know I'm interested in this [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► and I'm going to send you because you're [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► expendable but nothing anomalous like [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► too bad kid we get are a ticking clock [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► here to where he told him you have three [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► days three [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► that's right ok we'll take a brief break [TS]

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00:36:41 ◼   ► any mattress purchase at casper terms [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► and conditions apply [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► thank you so much to Casper for [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► sponsoring the incomparable cut to [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► stellan skarsgard ellen scenery [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► Skarsgard as tuple of you may know him [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► as the guy from like Thor and the [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► Avengers but here he was subcommander [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► tuple of who is going to announces we're [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► going to kill Ramius that speaking of [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► things that are hard to reconcile even [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► though i saw this long before girl with [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► the dragon tattoo reconciling his [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► character that movie with tupolev in one [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► sense well you know I'm trying to spoil [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► the other movie [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► in one sense it sort of makes sense but [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► in a lot of ways it's like what did [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► these are two completely different [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► people which I guess is a testament to [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► stones and starts collecting ability [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► I mean he's really good and you hate to [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► pull of the moment you can meet him [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► well you just hate that guy he's really [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► here sweaty and awful we don't like him [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► before we meet him because they asked [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► him about to pull 11 he says two levels [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► only concerned with two purlins there's [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► an overall mid to upper levels hard for [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► Cooper there's no room in anyone elses [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► your heart for every there's no room in [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► two gloves are for anybody but to get [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► that you hold a special place in his [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► heart I don't know [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► yes the smallest part also he just he [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► just does devour the scenery around him [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► in this movie yes there's a lot of [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► shouting from stellan skarsgard that [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► work that's okay [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► it totally works totally yes he's your [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► real rogue sub captain [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► yes so I'm really interesting scene [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► comes after this which is the there's [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► the meeting of the collaborators this is [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► where we get the sense that that Jack [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► Ryan has hinted at here which is he's [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► assembled his group and here we see them [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► all meeting at a at AII wrote down [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► originally that it was there they have [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► dinner but no Connor eats the rest of [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► them just sort of sit there and watch [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► him eat and text him tim curry gets [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► kicked out beforehand [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► yes because tim curry is not one of the [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► trusted house he's not he's not doesn't [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► get a dinner either [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► he is the stuccis the dupe he's the mark [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► and the rest of them are upset because [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► they expected this to be much more [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► straightforward and as a defection but [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► instead it's ago you had to make a [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► political statement no they weren't [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► expecting him to send a letter to his [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► father exactly and at which scrambles [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► the entire Soviet fleet and i believe [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► that the murder of the political officer [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► Sean Connery freelances yeah yeah they [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► were worked up about Putin being killed [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► and then they they were really worked up [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► about the letter to be Doran because [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► they know that the holes the full the [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► whole fleet is gonna come after them [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► I wish information it's sweet jazz baby [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► he's just gets very calm as he's [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► explaining this meeting is dinner [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► more cheat anybody i give us one chance [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► mr. all that Morty every Morty is grote [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► is a great line it's I converter I'm [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► just gonna pour my tea and they're all [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► arguing about whether or not this is [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► going to work and we get we get our [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► we get our like little like 30 second [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► character sketch about this is the guy [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► that worries all the time [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► this is the guy that's like matter [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► really care just sort of wanted to agree [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► the audience listening I this yeah yeah [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► and we have a sam neill sort of like [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► running interference always you and and [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► and then being like when they have a [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► moment privately where they're like yeah [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► I'm not gonna like disagree with you in [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► front of all the guys but like a good [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► idea [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► you're afraid of awfully well you should [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► be personally I give us one chance in [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► three we get some buckaroo [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► yes I just getting the right that's [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► right which which is a which ends up [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► getting a paid off later when when we [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► have the boarding of the sub with scott [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► going with this with his sidearm we cut [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► back to Jack Ryan taking a plane ride it [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► was a bumpy plane ride where there's a [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► lot of conversation about you should [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► have seen the last flight we were on [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► everybody was vomiting everywhere all [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► the answers on SideReel wait you give in [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► my notes yeah next time Jack just [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► putting the memo but uh oh yeah easy he [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► tells himself for the rest of the movie [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► that was a terrible mistake should email [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► but he gets out he gets on the ship [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► which is Captain by fred thompson bet I [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► believe he was an active member [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► Fred Dalton Thompson he's the Admiral [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► yep there's a there's another captain on [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► the ship who doesn't like jacket whose [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► Moriarty from Star Trek The Next [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► Generation by the way see how that's why [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► new hero haha man she is the other actor [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► I don't like in this movie it it is like [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► he won a contest had to appear in this [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► film he does a 180 though like that [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► looks like a very uniform right he goes [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► from hating jak2 really liking him yeah [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► he starts off like super I think that [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► actors good at the stuffed shirt part [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► certainly that's what Moriarty is and [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► and here he seems a little bit like oh [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► who does he think he is coming on our [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► ship like this like but really they have [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► Jack wearing a commander's Navy uniform [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► which is sort of the idea of him [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► blending in right because he's just a [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► civilian who shows up on this ship [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► everyone's gonna work with hills that [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► guy and so of course you know that the [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► captain feels a little bent out of shape [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► because he's like he's not a naval [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► officers and he's wearing this uniform [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► and that's where we like an hour into [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► the movie we get Jack Ryan's backstory [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► which fred thompson says I you know I [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► checked up on this on this kid [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► he was in a helicopter accident at the [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► Naval Academy you gotta cut him some [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► slack he spent like a year in the [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► hospital finishes last year from you [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► know for bed basically because his legs [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► were all broken so you know yeah he [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► didn't serve but he did graduate from [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► the Naval Academy cut him a little bit [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► of slack which is it's a nice scene that [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► that you know kind of gets it we [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► understand Ryan but we also gotta get [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► like four Thompson's chewing scenery [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► here but again he's like this fred [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► thompson is most fred thompson yeah i'm [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► down i want to see it [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► Russians don't take crap without a plan [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► son I'm not I'm a straight shooter boy [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► let me tell you some reverse mortgages [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► no idea where the other thing Fred [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► Thompson does here is is explained the [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► complexity of the situation to Ryan and [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► I like that I like that a lot because [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► ryan sort of like well i got this all [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► figured out on top of it and and he's [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► like you got to get the guys off the [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► boat they got to think it's destroyed [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► this is this for this to work [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► it's not just you know we don't just go [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► out there and they hand us the boat we [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► got to do like all this stuff and I i [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► like that because it that not only sort [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► of sets Ryan back a little bit but it [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► gives us the map for the rest of the [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► movie about how it's gonna go [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► which i think is a nice touch yeah it [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► gives us a chance to see Ryan headed [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► down his back foot right like weird huh [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► he's not sure what's going on he is [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► really an analyst right he's out of his [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► depth [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► no pun intended so so yes meanwhile [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► meanwhile underwater they are tracking [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► the the Dallas is tracking a sound and [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► Jonesy says that it sounds like it's [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► like magma displacement but if you play [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► it back at ten times speed it's got to [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► be man-made and it's headed and there's [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► that nice scene where he's like he finds [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► out all their contacts with the sub if [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► it's headed for Thor's twins which is [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► this landmark in that goes into a canyon [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► uh undersea canyon and he's like a ryan [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► at the at the briefing at the White [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► House he's kind of putting himself out [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► there because this kind of wild [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► speculation about something that's [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► totally crazy that this sound that isn't [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► isn't a sub but maybe a sub that we've [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► never heard before and there's our I run [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► this is a great scott glenn moment where [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► he says relax Jones you sold me [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► yeah I love that day and i also like [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► this whole like sort of laying the [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► groundwork for we've got this canyon [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► that the Russians have like really [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► maps of so they basically just three [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► speed runs down it yeah it's just like [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► bullseye womp rats back home and back [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► and so haha you know what I saw this [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► with movie for the first time I don't [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► remember how old i was probably between [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► 10 and 15 and the first time I saw this [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► in jones he gets out his tape recorder [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► in it and you hear that thing that [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► sounds kind of like a whale and then he [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► does the ten-time speed [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► I have no idea if that was really the [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► same sound 10 times faster but my 10 or [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► 12 or whatever your old mine exploded [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► when I heard the fast version was like [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► oh my god oh my god that's really it [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► that's really he's got it he's got it i [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► was so excited in it just blew my mind [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► that that that that sound supposedly [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► created this other sound I'd love that I [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► think it works because it's this long [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► slow sound but the point is that it [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► imposes at regular intervals and when [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► you speed it up you realize there's no [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► way that couldn't that could be a [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► natural phenomenon because it is exact [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► intervals [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► it's an intimate with it with a tape [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► player that can go bad fast speeds [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► because it's the eighties well and of [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► course we also get Jonesy saying that he [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► can track it right which is kind of [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► blind the whole point of this drive is [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► that I supposed to be super silent but [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► none are our guys are better guys config [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► configuring our release they can under [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► circumstance certain circumstances [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► knowing where to look [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► they can do some tracking of it but it [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► is funny that in the first encounter [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► with the caterpillar a guy on a on a [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► submarine a u.s. submarine figures it [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► out [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► please look for the best we got your [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► worries the criminals Jonesy they should [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► read this with Josie he is the sole [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► owner sonar savant so if anyone could do [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► it it's Jonesy what we have we have a [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► note here which is that radiated my note [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► reads radius is griefing his crew which [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► is he makes them run the speed run even [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► faster yes that's true it's like I got [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► this under control you give me a [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► stopwatch and I a map and I'll fly the [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► Alps in a plain black vote yet do your [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► speed double during the stuff must not [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► be very precise because I you know they [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► do precise countdowns by the time it [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► takes for them to relay all the orders [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► it go down to the second with us or just [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► the guy who's the navigator does he know [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► exactly how many seconds it takes for [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► one guy to tell the other guy to tell [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► the other guy to do the thing that makes [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► the subject i assume so that bothers me [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► as well like L seems really inefficient [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► have three [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► different guys with st. Marq Atlanta [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► over these four feet away you could just [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► tell him yourself [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► yeah or you could just push the button [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► for the bridge is not that big yeah that [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► that seemed but it is exciting and he's [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► pushing them to go faster but then [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► there's an like a blast in the cryogenic [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► plant which is failed and so they are [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► they're there they're in trouble and it [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► turns out that their sabotage [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► meanwhile this is about what we get the [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► scene with the Russian ambassador of [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► national security adviser where it's [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► entirely bogus how can we help but no no [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► we're fine terribly sorry we're going [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► mad can walk from a static Greenland [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► Scott done without getting his new way [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► to go back just very briefly when the [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► doctor comes down the the ladder and [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► it's just freaking out about the [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► radiation that's at this moment your [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► likes not very good out [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► yeah I can understand why they didn't [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► want him part of this because my side [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► when I smell terrible terrible done if [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► you have horrible fears of radiation do [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► not lock yourself up in a submarine with [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► an interior covering yeah smart smart [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► now the the attack the attack comes from [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► the fleets that are flying over the the [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► airplanes and they're dropping they're [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► dropping depth charges basically into [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► the so this is this is where you get the [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► slack time that the navigator puts in [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► right because this is where you've got [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► the plus 10 11 12 and then radius is [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► like hard over your rifle rudder reverse [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► starboard engine that you know it [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► impacts on Thor's twins and they get [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► through the thing and all that it's very [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► exciting this is a this is a moment that [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► you know doesn't really have to be in [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► the movie but it really gives you the [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► sense that the Russian fleet is closing [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► in on them and they're in danger and [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► it's a really nice action c plus there's [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► the whole element of everybody else now [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► like trying to figure out wait they're [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► shooting actual torpedoes why are they [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► shooting at us and there's the point [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► where I wonder how we how well you can [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► sell the cruise like that you know the [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► non officers who are not involved in [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► this defection are all the sudden going [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► to be asking themselves [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► what's going on here yeah this is the [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► scene you have to have in every [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► submarine movie where it's the first [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► encounter with the depth charges or the [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► enemy torpedo or or what have you [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► where where everyone has to elude [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► everything and it's very tense so after [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► this we discover that they have indeed [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► been Scott sabotage because the really [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► shifty eyed engineer who is at this [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► point we think may have done the [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► sabotaging himself says oh you know that [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► you know that's this component that is [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► not easy to find has been sabotaged and [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► so now they're not sure what to make of [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► it the officers aren't sure what to make [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► of it and you know the crew is going to [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► find out which they eventually do and so [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► now they know that they're getting shot [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► out with real weapons they know they're [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► being sabotaged and so the crew is [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► getting really worked up about it but [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► then we have this comic relief of alec [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► baldwin in the shower doing a fred [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► thompson impression and it's one of a [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► couple impressions he doesn't i still [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► think it's hysterical [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► you know if she doesn't take a dump [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► someone without a plan and oh god it's [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► so good and Sandy starting to doubt [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► himself and trying to figure out like [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► you were talking about earlier you know [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► what do we do [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► how do you get this how do you get the [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► crew off the sub how do you get the crew [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► on nuclear dump haha hey Eureka it's a [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► great moment [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► mhm they slipped in the shower on some [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► tea it was really important haha yeah [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► but it's funny because you kind of take [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► this journey with him and you're [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► thinking to yourself well how would you [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► get us a crew to want to get off a [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► nuclear submarine and then when he [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► realizes it or at least for me anyway I [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► was like oh oh yeah now I get it and [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► then he runs up to the bridge of what [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► whatever bodies on the enterprise or [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► without having a price on paramount [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► picture and naturally and and they're a [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► little bit distracted at the time [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► yeah well you have the ranch yes we have [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► like a random crash that I you know [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► don't entirely follow what happened but [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► basically like a plane has clipped [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► another plane roll flying in formation [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► and yeah he's trying to make a landing I [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► finally figured out lo these many years [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► later what what has been happening is [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► you've got all the planes out because [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► where there's all this naval activity [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► going on the planes are flying recon and [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► they got a little bit too close in one [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► plane clipped the wing and its trying to [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► come in for an emergency landing and and [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► crash and that's why Fred Thompson says [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► this is you know we're gonna get a bunch [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► of people killed here its kind of [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► analogous to the situation where you [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► have the US and the [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► russian fighter planes planes over Syria [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► and there's like the danger that they're [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► gonna you know first off they could hit [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► each other they could you know they [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► could there could be an incident it's [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► like there's a lot of traffic going on [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► it's dangerous and that's what Fred [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► Thompson says here is like this is a [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► problem because of the escalation that [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► this is this this is really dangerous so [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► wouldn't it also gives us that more [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► direct moment of like we already know [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► Alec Baldwin hates his name why yeah and [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► the only rage the only way he's gonna [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► get out there too because i want to get [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► onto the Dallas is my helicopter we have [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► that pan over to a helicopter was like [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► thinking about it [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► no you're right that this was the [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► specific line that Fred Thompson says [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► and I'm i just want to get this on the [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► record because every time something goes [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► bad for me and my professional life I [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► say that slot this business will get out [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► of control [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► it will get out of control and we'll be [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► lucky to live through it [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► ok so good i also loved the mid-eighties [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► gps system that was basically the size [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► of the microsoft surface table I went [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► dialing things around ya know it's so [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► good that is also this is also where we [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► learned that really the the russian plot [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► is not to overtake radius it is rather [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► to drive him to the coast where a lot of [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► Soviet subs are waiting to sink him i [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► like that the Soviet subs are hanging [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► out like right on our coast yeah [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► international waters man just hanging [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► out like tonight I don't think I'm I'm [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► have breaking any classified information [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► here [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► my my my late father-in-law was a [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► submariner and he could tell some [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► stories about where he hung out off the [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► coast of countries which may or may not [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► have known that they were there [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► well then there's a good night was it [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► earlier on where yet some it's the skip [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► the Submariner mentions like when i was [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► a kid i help my dad build a bomb shelter [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► in the basement because someone parked a [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► bunch of nuclear missiles 90 miles off [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► Florida you know so we get like the [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► whole Cuban Missile Crisis angle and so [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► yeah I guess in some ways it isn't [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► surprising that we just got lots of [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► submarines fooling around doing things [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► this is also where i got i enjoy the [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► setup where we get the we get the line [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► where it would be like a seismic anomaly [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► and then we get Jonesy says it [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► you put in the computer and it's like it [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► goes back to its original language and [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► says it's magnet displacement and then [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► here he hears magma displacement and [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► Jack Ryan has that moment like would [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► that be a seismic anomaly and he makes [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► the connection it's just really fun to [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► see him make that connection before yes [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► and he's like this is it I gotta do this [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► and so they are you know next time Jack [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► ride a goddamn memo and the market goes [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► in his flying gascan his job and [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► stripped down and turn to find gas can [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► it's funny because they go into a lot [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► more description about this in the book [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► I've been reading years but they talk [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► about how the kind of forget the acronym [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► they do mentioned in the movie but the [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► this the computer system that the sonar [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► is using it was originally to figure out [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► where earthquakes were if memory serves [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► and so that's think yes yes signal [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► algorithmic processing system or [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► something like that [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► well anyways so what Josie said is [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► accurate and that's what they say in the [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► book is that when it doesn't really know [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► what to make of things that just says me [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► it's probably an earthquake and so [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► that's that's exactly what was happening [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► here just like you said Jason that [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► yellow a seismic event [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► oh maybe it's just because absence [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► fooled and maybe that's the SOB in it is [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► so it is a another funny Eureka moment [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► so so I let's say we got a scene we got [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► the scene between Samuel and sean [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► connery that is the the wonderful do you [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► think they will let me live in Montana I [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► maybe I'll get a recreational vehicle [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► and drive from state to state will i [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► need papers no papers and I will marry a [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► round American woman and she will raise [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► rap i will need two wives i would like [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► to live in arizona at least mhm [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► it's a very nice little moment and this [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► is also that tender moment that needs to [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► happen now because he's good now we all [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► like the silly man right love Vasily [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► that's where i miss the piece of fishing [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► yes he was a wee he made his famous made [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► his wife a widow when you married her on [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► the day Mary what a jerk [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► yeah yeah not good planning on his part [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► I've been achieved for 40 years award [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► see with no battles no monuments only [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► casualties casualties shot I'm waxing a [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► little poetic in my old age [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► there's a crazy Ivan they explain the [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► crazy Ivan where every so often Russian [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► sub commanders will just a turn [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► I love that whenever you know i watched [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► the first episode of firefly again [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► yeah that's crazy Ivan and i love that [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► that is a reference throughout because I [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► it inevitably someone watching it was [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► like oh that's funny that's a firefly [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► thing like no no that's not for right [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► over thing that's right you're missing [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► the original reference which is a great [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► scene 2 because it's intercut between [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► them sitting there you know having a [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► philosophical conversation and and you [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► know the Dallas people like freaking out [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► like they're turning around we gotta [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► stop everything let's explain you know [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► they we have again the explication what [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► is a crazy i don't know they're just [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► checking to make sure because they're [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► paranoid and they basically do like a [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► circle around the Dallas and because [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► they say oh my god he went right around [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► us and kind of watching some of the [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► exterior shots and i think i actually by [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► the way you know full credit to like the [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► the special effects work done here [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► because i think most of the underseas [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► segments are pretty good especially and [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► you know given the year this happened [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► they did have some i guess some access [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► to submarines for filming purposes but a [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► lot of these are models and in fact i [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► read in one of the trivial things that [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► like the Red October model is like not [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► even underwater for any of the shot they [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► like composited all in countermeasures [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► aside the special effects really hold up [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► well the countermeasures and when the [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► torpedo splits that's yeah so yeah yeah [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► there's that and there's some matting [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► issues and stuff especially that last [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► scene where they're standing on top [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► well she's terrible but other than that [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► you know it's other than those six [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► things yeah other than like it too it's [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► a two hour plus movie and we need picked [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► a half dozen things [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► no you're right you're absolutely right [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► i agree with you Dan that it really does [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► stand up and hold up well and so next [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► thing you know the Dallas has found the [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► October because you know they just did [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► the crazy Ivan right around him around [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► the balance but then they get on the [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► e.l.f which is very important and [TS]