250: Building a Home Screen Together


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00:00:14   From Relay FM, this is Upgrade, episode 250. Today's show is brought to you by Hello, KiwiCo, and Astropad Studio.

00:00:23   My name is Myke Hurley, and I have the joy of always and always and in always of being joined by Jason Snell.

00:00:30   Hi, Jason Snell.

00:00:31   Hello, Myke Hurley. Episode 250 is upon us.

00:00:35   Yeah, and so we figured that this would be the perfect time to start the Summer of Fun for this year.

00:00:44   Now, if you are new to the Upgrade program and you're thinking,

00:00:47   "Why are they screaming three words at the top of their voice, and why is the music different for this week's episode?"

00:00:53   During the summer, we like to put on a selection of episodes that feature different and fun and eccentric topics on this show,

00:01:01   because from about now until September, it tends to be a little bit quieter in the technology space as we go through the summer,

00:01:08   plus me and Jason both travel over these months.

00:01:10   So we like to mix things up a little bit, and today we're going to be starting the Summer of Fun on episode 250,

00:01:16   because it just felt right to do, and we're going to do an iPhone home screen draft later on in today's show.

00:01:22   We'll explain to you at the time what on earth that means.

00:01:26   And then next week, so there's some homework for you, we're going to be doing a Myke at the Movies for Kiki's Delivery Service,

00:01:31   which is a movie that we've been wanting to do since we watched My Neighbor Totoro a few months ago.

00:01:35   So that will be also next week's episode, and we have many, many wonderful, weird and fantastical topics

00:01:43   that will be ringing through the Summer of Fun, which tends to end with the iPhone draft.

00:01:49   So the draft for the iPhone keynote. So we've got a lot of wonderful episodes planned for this year.

00:01:55   So here begins the Summer of Fun.

00:01:57   All right, at last.

00:01:58   And the #SnowTalk question this week, Jason, is very apt, comes from Steve.

00:02:02   Steve wants to know, "What actually is a draft? It seems like a sport metaphor, but it's not something that I'm that familiar with."

00:02:09   So Steve, the easiest way that I could describe it is if you've ever played a game at school on a playground or something,

00:02:19   and you need to pick teams, so you pick a couple of people to pick the teams,

00:02:23   and then they just take turns picking who's on their team, that's a draft. That's how drafts work.

00:02:27   And then it is most notable in at least American sports, this is how you end up getting players who are coming out of school

00:02:37   or who are amateur players for football or basketball or baseball.

00:02:41   They do, the major sports do drafts where like you've got all your college football players,

00:02:45   and they are ready to be drafted into the NFL, and they don't have a free-for-all where they can sell their services to a highest bidder,

00:02:53   which by the way would probably be more fair.

00:02:56   This is not a situation that's favorable to the players.

00:03:01   It limits their free market by instead making the teams take turns, and they usually start with the worst team first.

00:03:08   And the idea there is that if you're really bad, you need more help.

00:03:12   So anyway, we have repurposed this to be a mechanism that we can use to pick sort of anything in turn,

00:03:19   and part of the key is that if you take it, then it's gone, and the other person can't take it.

00:03:24   Otherwise, you're just doing two lists in parallel, and that's not a draft.

00:03:28   Yeah, we basically just brand it as such because it sounds nice.

00:03:32   So there we go. That is kind of what a draft is and for our purposes what we use them for.

00:03:37   Now, Jason, I believe you've written a lot of notes in our document today about Twitterific 6 and kind of some of the business of selling apps.

00:03:47   So I would like to know from you what is going on with Twitterific, and what is it specifically that you wanted to talk about today?

00:03:53   Well, I mean, I wrote a little thing last week, and I could be excited about it and just say,

00:03:57   "Hey, a new version of Twitterific for iOS came out. I like Twitterific. I use it. It's my Twitter client of choice.

00:04:02   I use it on the Mac. I use it on iOS. It syncs across all of them, which is really nice.

00:04:08   And if you're using Tweetbot, you get that too. These are competitors.

00:04:11   These are the two kind of like primary, premium, not the Twitter apps that are out there.

00:04:17   It's got some new features, better media support, more themes, syncable by iCloud.

00:04:22   So you can actually like use or customize. You can actually make a theme on the Mac version and put it in an iCloud folder,

00:04:29   and it syncs to the iOS versions, and you can use those themes there. It's pretty cool.

00:04:32   But I think what's most interesting, and it's kind of unfortunate, but I think it's also worth talking about just the challenge of business models in the App Store

00:04:42   and what people's expectations are and how hard it is for developers to figure out the right thing to do,

00:04:48   is that, you know, apps auto-update generally, unless you set them not to.

00:04:53   And what they decided to do was release Twitterific 6 on top of the old version,

00:04:59   and that caused a lot of people to get really angry,

00:05:03   apparently because there's for some group of users who weren't seeing banner ads in Twitterific before they say they are seeing them now.

00:05:16   Now, the Icon Factory wrote a whole document that we can put in the show notes about the purchase policy of Twitterific 6.

00:05:22   There's a whole history of what they've charged for Twitterific and what the business model has been over time.

00:05:27   I think it's -- I think, you know, I'm trying to get a handle on the source of the user anger

00:05:35   because it seems to me, based on their document, that what Icon Factory basically has said is,

00:05:40   "If you've given us money in the last, like, five years, we're gonna do right by you,

00:05:47   and we're either -- if you're on a subscription, you just keep the subscription,

00:05:50   and if you bought the app -- I mean, it's a free app with in-app purchases.

00:05:56   If you've recently done an in-app purchase, we will give you an extra six months of that in-app purchase in the new thing before we ask you for more money.

00:06:08   And basically, if you've given us an in-app purchase at all since 2014, so five years ago, more than five years ago,

00:06:17   you still won't see those banner ads. You will get a sort of a nag screen that comes up every now and then saying,

00:06:24   "We would like it if you would support the app," but they'll hide the banner ads for you.

00:06:28   And so it looks like they're being really generous here and that -- unless there's either a technical mistake

00:06:34   or there's something that they're not communicating clearly, it sounds to me like the only people who are really seeing ads

00:06:40   who weren't seeing them before are people who bought the app back in 20 -- like 2013, basically.

00:06:47   It came out the end of 2012 for $3. And those people got graced, basically, when they switched to the free with in-app purchase model.

00:06:57   The people who bought the app got graced with no ads until last week.

00:07:02   And this is one of those things where it's like they are getting so much junk on Twitter about this for, I think,

00:07:14   because they've been so good to their customers. I think literally what they're getting is they're getting angry people

00:07:19   who they have been always -- Icon Factory has always been sort of like trying to do the right thing and say,

00:07:26   "We're going to give you no ads for longer because of that," and it's gone so long now that people just figure that they get no ads forever.

00:07:34   And what they did last week is they said, "Okay, we're doing a new version. We're going to update it over the old version,

00:07:39   and if you haven't paid us in the last five years, you're going to need to pay us again."

00:07:43   And this leads to this whole conversation about what's the right thing to do as an app developer.

00:07:49   Do you update or release a new version of the app? If they release a new version of the app, what happens to the old version of the app?

00:07:55   I will lay money down that if they kept the old version around and it broke in iOS 13, that people would complain about that.

00:08:06   And yet they should have no need or they should put no effort into making the old app continue to work

00:08:14   because the old app is -- people are not paying them for the old app.

00:08:21   And $3 received in 2013 does not help them do work today.

00:08:25   Also, so there's some of that. Some of it is the complexity of the in-app purchase system

00:08:31   because they have been trying to find a business model for this, and therefore you go to this site and you're like,

00:08:37   "Oh my God, we went from paid to free with these in-app purchases and we did a tip jar."

00:08:43   And there's all of this complexity on top of it that's frustrating.

00:08:46   And then another layer on top of that is there are a lot of people who hate the idea of a subscription.

00:08:51   And they're offering monthly and annual subscriptions.

00:08:55   They also offer a purchase that's a one-time purchase that they called forever, which was a mistake,

00:09:02   because what it really is is it's for the life of version 6.

00:09:05   I'll point out that version 5 lasted 7 years, but who knows how long version 6 will last.

00:09:11   And so you don't really know what you're getting for your $30 by doing that.

00:09:14   I think it's $30. It's not cheap, but it's just you don't get nickeled and dimed over every month or every year.

00:09:21   And some people don't like that idea. It's like, "I don't want to pay $30. I also don't want a subscription."

00:09:26   And I think that there are some okay criticisms, criticisms I understand about the way that they phrase some of this stuff

00:09:36   and how they tried to communicate it.

00:09:37   But what really makes me sad is this seems to be a company that has fought really hard about how to do this.

00:09:43   And has tried to always do right by their paying customers.

00:09:48   And by the way, the vast majority, according to icon factory, of Twitter-ific users just use it for free with ads.

00:09:54   That's the vast majority of it.

00:09:56   But I think they tried to do right by their paying customers.

00:10:00   The existence of this purchase policy shows that they've consistently over the years tried to do the right thing

00:10:07   for people who've given them money and given them features forever in some cases or for years before,

00:10:15   even though that's not really what they paid for because they wanted to do the right thing.

00:10:19   And yet now they're getting torn apart by people who are like, "Oh, this is an outrage.

00:10:22   I can't believe I gave you money and now you're making me see ads unless I pay you again."

00:10:26   And one last thing on this point, which is the entitlement of people who think that paying three bucks in 2013

00:10:37   gives you an ad-free premium Twitter client forever is amazing to me.

00:10:42   Like, Twitter makes a client that's free. Use it.

00:10:45   If you think Twitter-ific or Tweetbot is better, then those developers aren't part of Twitter.

00:10:50   You've got to pay them. You've got to pay them.

00:10:53   And I am not seeing, unless there's a technical problem or I'm really misunderstanding this detailed document that Icon Factory put out,

00:11:00   I am not seeing where they have taken money from somebody and then turned around and said,

00:11:06   "Okay, you've got to pay us again. That's no good anymore."

00:11:09   Like, they seem to have gone out of their way to be generous.

00:11:12   And the sad thing is that it may be that that generosity is the thing that sort of trained people that they would never be asked for money again.

00:11:20   But it's just, you know, this is just when you think maybe the App Store is starting to make sense and settle down,

00:11:27   you see something like this and you realize just what a mess the App Store is.

00:11:31   And I mean the customer's attitude toward payment and the complexity of the entire model that's based on Apple's rules.

00:11:39   Yeah, I think some of this is really difficult because, you know,

00:11:43   I think that there is a potential issue in assuming that the customer is aware of any of the stuff that's going on behind the scenes as well.

00:11:51   Right? Like, the economics of software development are so murky to customers as well as developers themselves.

00:11:59   Like, that they're, and I'm not saying that anyone, well, it's difficult to say who's pointing fingers who, but everybody, where,

00:12:05   but everybody's pointing fingers at each other, right?

00:12:07   It's like, "You owe me this software. You need to pay me more money."

00:12:10   Like, I get all of it, but like, I just want to say it's difficult.

00:12:13   I think it's very difficult as an average consumer to understand what your purchase is getting you.

00:12:20   For sure.

00:12:21   And I think that this is part of the issue created by the App Store all those years ago.

00:12:28   And it's now trying to be fixed by subscriptions, but really the subscriptions should have come along and been a possibility for more developers a long time ago

00:12:37   because we're now in this, like, really difficult time where people struggle to understand what they get.

00:12:43   Now, I don't think that that is right for them people to start, like, hurling abuse because I think that's ridiculous.

00:12:49   But the idea of somebody seeing this and being like, "Huh, I thought I paid for this."

00:12:53   Like, I understand that mentality, especially if you've been using it for so long you don't even remember when you paid for it.

00:12:58   And it gets worse. I have a friend who will remain nameless who is not a technical person, doesn't work in the technical field at all,

00:13:04   who got angry about this. And they're like, "I bought this app a couple of years ago."

00:13:08   And I said, "Well, I'm looking here and it looks like it's a free app."

00:13:11   And their response was, "Oh, oh, okay then."

00:13:14   Like, it was really one of those things like, "Oh, I didn't even realize that I didn't pay for it. I thought I paid for it.

00:13:20   And now they're asking me for more money and it turns out I didn't pay for it and they're asking me for money."

00:13:26   And again, you can use it without paying them. You just get the ads and then you get to choose to turn it off.

00:13:32   And I think that Apple adds so much complexity to this through their rules.

00:13:37   Definitely. I just find it so difficult to be like, "It's this person's fault. It's this person's fault."

00:13:41   I think that the world that we're in has just become really hard to understand.

00:13:48   Like, what paying for an app actually gets you today?

00:13:53   And I think I really hope that subscriptions continue to be a thing that works for people.

00:13:57   I really hope it works for the icon factory, which is terrific, or has been working, continues to work.

00:14:02   But, like, it's a real mess. And it seems to be only becoming increasingly more difficult for developers to build a sustainable business model.

00:14:11   Yeah, and we want them to succeed, but if they don't succeed, then the apps go away.

00:14:15   So really, the answer is if you don't want to pay, then that's fine.

00:14:20   At some point, they'll just stop developing their app. And that's certainly an option here.

00:14:25   I think what I feel bad for developers is that a lot of these decisions are made by Apple, but the user doesn't perceive any of them as being from Apple.

00:14:32   They perceive them as bad behavior on the part of the developers. It all gets blamed on the developer, which I understand from a consumer point of view.

00:14:39   It's like, I don't even know. Your app is the one asking me for these things. You made this decision.

00:14:44   But we know that there's a lot more complexity behind the scenes, and Apple gets shielded.

00:14:49   Like, very rarely will a user say, "Why, I'm being asked to subscribe to an app. I am outraged by the conditions put in this market by Apple's rules."

00:15:00   No, they say, "Why are you asking me for money, developer?" That's where it comes back to it, and it falls on them.

00:15:05   Yeah, the hope, I think, for a lot of people was that the subscription model would be a thing to help save this.

00:15:12   But there is also, as you mentioned, the issue of subscription fatigue.

00:15:15   For sure.

00:15:16   You don't want to subscribe to 150 different applications. Nobody wants to do that. We're all subscribing to so much stuff.

00:15:23   But I hope that, at least for some apps, at least the annual subscription for a smallish amount of money, like a few dollars,

00:15:30   would be a big help to a lot of developers, and I think wouldn't be too difficult for most customers.

00:15:36   But yeah, I think this was worth bringing up every now and then, especially because this one seems to have hit a real sore point for a lot of people.

00:15:45   Yep.

00:15:46   All right, we are going to get into our summer of fun iPhone home screen draft.

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00:17:43   So we thought, what can we draft?

00:17:47   This was a conversation we had a little while ago, and this one had been bouncing around in my head for a while

00:17:53   about trying to draft the perfect iPhone home screen.

00:17:58   Now, 28 apps can go on the iPhone home screen.

00:18:01   We're going to take turns picking one app each. Some of them are not really going to need much discussion,

00:18:06   but we'll see about that. And what I thought we'd do, because we want to create the perfect home screen,

00:18:10   we don't want to have duplicates. We're not going to pick the Twitter app Terrific and Tweetbot.

00:18:14   We're going to have one app per category, and we're going to go through it like that.

00:18:19   And I guess, who's going to go first? Jason, you know what? I'm going to let you go first.

00:18:24   Why don't you take the first pick for the iPhone home screen draft?

00:18:27   I don't want to go first. I'm going to let you go first. You go first. It was your idea. I'm going to give it to you. You go first.

00:18:32   All right. So I'm going to go with a very simple one that I think everyone should have on their home screen,

00:18:36   because I can't imagine using my phone without it, and that is the Messages app. Seems like an easy one, right? Would you agree?

00:18:43   Yeah. Yeah.

00:18:44   What I was wondering as well is, I think by picking this, we're going from top left.

00:18:49   So this could be a wild design, because we're going to pick the things we want the most,

00:18:54   even though maybe they'll be more likely to go in the dock, but I don't also want to try and in audio form create a visual medium here.

00:19:01   So we're just going to imagine this is top left. So the other thing I was thinking,

00:19:05   which upgrade-ian Jason is going to reorganize their phone based on the upgrade iPhone home screen draft?

00:19:12   I'd imagine, well, that's a good question. I also imagine we'll get a sternly worded note from Alex Cox about the quality of our home screen when we're done.

00:19:21   Yeah. But I want to see, you can send tweets to us if you do this, I want to see how many phones can we destroy with our iPhone home screen draft.

00:19:31   So top left, Messages. What are you going to pick number two, Jason?

00:19:35   All right. Ironically, top left on my home screen is Messages. So that is well done, well picked.

00:19:41   I am going to go with an app that has to be on your home screen, and also by doing this, I know I'm sniping you.

00:19:49   I'm going to pick Safari. You got to have Safari. You can do so much with Safari. It gives you the whole web on a phone.

00:19:55   Steve Jobs told me that was great. So I think you got to put Safari on there and not Chrome, which you do, but too late.

00:20:01   I was going to, you know what? I didn't even have Chrome in my list because I knew it would never work.

00:20:07   I had Safari in my list. I am a Chrome user on the iPhone because I am currently a Chrome user on the Mac.

00:20:13   Although I am getting ready to bow down to the god of iPadOS for Safari. Come September, I've kind of resigned myself to the fact that I'm going to be moving away from Chrome back to Safari

00:20:26   because I'm so excited about the full desktop Safari on the iPadOS. So I can't imagine that Chrome will be in my future on iOS come the end of the year,

00:20:35   which is, it'll be a sad day for me, Jason, when I finally give up because there are just some things about the Chrome app now that I love so much over Safari.

00:20:44   Like, for example, the way that you open new tabs on the Chrome app is so nice. You just pull down and pull to the left and it just opens a new tab for you.

00:20:52   So many little things like that that I will miss, but that full desktop Safari.

00:20:57   I love how you have taken my Safari pic and used it to extol the virtues of Chrome, but too bad. Come on, come on. We're not going to pick it. It's at least there.

00:21:07   It's at least there. All right, so I'm going to go with a controversial pic for the home screen here, Jason. Lots of people get on me about this, but I think there's a good reason. The camera app.

00:21:17   Yeah, yeah. I took it off for a while and I put it back on. It's on my home screen now.

00:21:21   Because the reason people always say, why have you got the camera on your home screens? Because you have the camera shortcut on the lock screen. Right.

00:21:28   And I understand that. But sometimes I want to get to the camera and my phone is open. But also the camera app allows you to get into your photos app really easily as well.

00:21:37   So it feels like a two for one for me because you only have to go press one more tap and you're in photos. Right.

00:21:41   You hit that little preview on the bottom left. So camera does double duty. I don't need to have the photos app on my home screen.

00:21:47   And I also have the camera app on my home screen for whenever I need it. So the upgrade drops says that cameras. The camera app is great.

00:21:55   Me and Jason both agree that is upgrade certified and it is pick number three. I am going to pick one of the apps that quite honestly, I use the most on my phone and my iPad.

00:22:06   And I know it's not necessarily a crowd pleaser, but I couldn't live without it. And that is Slack. I use Slack all the time to talk to people.

00:22:18   I can't live without it to communicate with all the people I collaborate with. I got to have it on my phone. So Slack.

00:22:25   Yeah, I had Slack on my list, obviously. I had it further down because I figured we're definitely going to pick it.

00:22:30   And it seems to be these days that Slack is not that popular. Like I remember when like everyone was just head over heels in love with Slack because of its ability to create these large groups of teams to be able to talk really easily together.

00:22:44   But I think people have turned on it because it has become everybody's workplace and has become so big over time that it moves slowly.

00:22:54   So, yeah, it's a real thing. But Slack is there. And so that rounds out our current top row messages, Safari, camera and Slack.

00:23:06   I have just decided, Myke, while we were talking that what we're going to do is we're going to pick twenty eight and then at the end we're going to pick from those twenty eight.

00:23:13   We're going to place four of them, take turns placing four of them in the dock.

00:23:17   Only Jason Snell could come up with a draft of a draft because that's what we're doing. Right.

00:23:22   We're going to take the draft and then draft four from the draft.

00:23:25   It never ends. The drafts never end.

00:23:27   This is the type of draft innovation that only Jason Snell could come up with.

00:23:33   Number five, I'm going to go with an app for my favorite audio medium.

00:23:39   I'm going to pick Overcast and that will round out the podcasting category.

00:23:44   Overcast is mine and your preferred podcasting application developed by Marco Arment.

00:23:50   I love Overcast. I've used it for years. I'm so used to it now.

00:23:54   And Marco's effects, the smart speed and voice boost, they are something that I kind of live about now when I listen to my podcast.

00:24:02   So Overcast it is in a pick number five.

00:24:05   Yeah, that makes sense. I am going to choose.

00:24:09   Wow, there's so many so many apps to choose from here. All the great apps, you could say.

00:24:13   All the great apps. I'm going to go with Fantastical over Calendar.

00:24:19   I use Fantastical.

00:24:20   Hey, that was my pick number six.

00:24:21   Yay!

00:24:22   Look at that. Look at that.

00:24:24   Yeah, see, this isn't quite as competitive. It's more like collaborative.

00:24:28   We're building a home screen together here. It's very nice.

00:24:30   So Fantastical is my calendar app and I like its presentation better than the stock calendar app, at least on the iPhone.

00:24:37   On the iPad, it doesn't really work for me, even though I use it.

00:24:41   I don't like it. But on the Mac, it's great.

00:24:44   And on the iPhone, it's great. And it has a place on my home screen and I want it there on this home screen.

00:24:51   So Fantastical from Flexibits.

00:24:53   I'm going to go with my favorite Notes app, Jason.

00:24:57   Notes.

00:24:58   Yay!

00:24:59   The Notes app.

00:25:00   It's super simple, but it does the job. Like, if I have a little note that I need to write down, it goes in there.

00:25:06   All of my links that I save for all of our shows, it all goes in there because the extension is built so well.

00:25:12   I've tried to move to many great Notes apps that have come out since.

00:25:17   Apps like Bear, for example, which have some really wonderful features and really great markdown support.

00:25:21   But I keep coming back to Notes because that system integration is so useful.

00:25:26   It's the reason why I have my eye on Reminders so much.

00:25:29   I can't stop thinking about the new Reminders app in iOS 13.

00:25:33   I absolutely love the Notes app and nothing's going to change my mind on that one.

00:25:38   I would not have a complete home screen if Notes was not on it.

00:25:43   I agree with you. I use Notes as well for a lot of things.

00:25:47   Every time I do an incomparable and I'm taking notes of the movie I watch, that's all in Notes.

00:25:55   That is my go-to place.

00:25:58   If I'm in a restaurant and I'm taking an order, it goes into Notes.

00:26:02   I'm collecting up stuff from everything.

00:26:04   It is just where text will go for me. I have so much stuff in there.

00:26:09   If I'm going on a trip, I save PDFs of all of my documents into the Notes app.

00:26:14   It's just all there. You can password protect Notes.

00:26:17   I have some documents in there too that I just password protect because then they're really easy to get to.

00:26:22   I love it. It's fantastic.

00:26:24   Where would apologies on Twitter be without people taking screenshots of things written in the Notes app?

00:26:30   Exactly.

00:26:31   It's an important service for everyone who's apologizing on the internet.

00:26:35   Speaking of Twitter, I'm going to pick Twitterific now because I mentioned it earlier.

00:26:39   That's my preferred Twitter client and I want to pick it.

00:26:42   I use it a lot too.

00:26:44   Honestly, my phone is a Twitter and Slack machine more than anything else at this point.

00:26:49   Thank you to the makers of Twitter apps and to Slack for filling up my phone.

00:26:55   I actually didn't have a Twitter app on my list because I have recently been using the official Twitter app.

00:27:01   I didn't want to promote that one.

00:27:04   I didn't want that to be the official upgrade pick.

00:27:08   When Twitter cut off a lot of the API stuff, it made things more difficult for some of the third-party apps in speed and stuff.

00:27:15   Plus, using the official Twitter app actually makes me use Twitter a little bit less.

00:27:19   I'm not quitting Twitter, but I want to use it differently and the official Twitter app has helped me do that.

00:27:27   That's the one that I've been using.

00:27:29   I am a big fan of Twitterific as well.

00:27:31   I think that it is my favorite, especially UI design-wise.

00:27:35   I love the way that Twitterific looks.

00:27:37   I'm very happy to have it in at number eight on our list.

00:27:41   That's the second row.

00:27:43   That's the second row as it stands now.

00:27:45   Not the final row, but the second row as it stands now is Overcast, Fantastic Hell, Notes, and Twitterific.

00:27:50   As you said, we will give a complete and full picture of what it will look like after the sub-draft, after the main draft is completed.

00:27:58   We're going to number nine.

00:28:01   I'm going to go with an email app now, Jason, and I'm going to pick Spark.

00:28:06   I have a decree that there are no good email apps.

00:28:09   They just don't exist.

00:28:10   There is only the email app that you can stand or the email app that has the features you have to have.

00:28:16   For me, Spark's team features are the things that I have to have.

00:28:22   I need them.

00:28:23   I need to be able to use the team features that Spark has.

00:28:27   That's kind of where I'm going with that one.

00:28:31   It's something that's very important for my work, but a lot of the other features of the app could be better in many different ways.

00:28:38   We had to pick an email app, and Spark may as well be the one that goes on the list.

00:28:43   That's a real ringing endorsement for email.

00:28:46   I hear you.

00:28:47   I had the Apple Mail app for a long time.

00:28:50   I've been trying Gmail actually in its place on my phone, the Gmail app, since I do get my mail through Gmail.

00:28:55   Again, it's one of those things where for everything that I like about it, there's another thing that I dislike about it.

00:29:01   I can just pick my poison of which feature I dislike or like the most in any of them, but none of them fills me with enough satisfaction that I say, "Okay, I can stop now.

00:29:13   I've got the perfect email client." It just hasn't happened.

00:29:16   I've tried them all.

00:29:17   Everyone's going to send me their favorite, but I'll tell you right now, I've tried them all.

00:29:22   There's always something that I'm not happy with.

00:29:24   One of the big things is I don't just use Gmail.

00:29:27   I also use an iCloud email address for a lot of personal stuff, so I can't just use Gmail-based applications of which there are many.

00:29:36   That's one of the big problems for me of where I come from with this.

00:29:39   That's in pick number nine, Spark.

00:29:42   All right, well, I know what you said earlier in pick number three about how having a camera app on your phone also gives you quick access to photos, but you know what?

00:29:49   I don't want to wait and have the camera app open and then tap to go into photos.

00:29:53   I just want to use the Photos app, and I use it all the time to see photos, to share photos, to edit photos, to write a book about photos.

00:30:00   All of those reasons I pick photos number 10.

00:30:04   How do you write a book about photos using the Photos app, just out of interest?

00:30:09   You just take pictures of words and then read them out?

00:30:11   It's very hard because a picture is worth a thousand words, so the number of words I have to write, it's enormous.

00:30:17   Well, really, I guess you only need to have 100 pictures and you have a massive book on your hands.

00:30:22   It's easy, Jason.

00:30:23   It couldn't be easier. It's easy money.

00:30:25   Just take 100 pictures, you have 100,000 words easy.

00:30:28   All right, so that's taken us up to pick number 10.

00:30:31   Should we take a break here before we finish off the rest?

00:30:34   Yep, sounds good.

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00:32:47   All right, so it's my turn again, right, as we go into app number 11 here.

00:32:53   I am going to pick Calzones by _DavidSmith, which is, whilst technically has calendar functionality,

00:33:01   I'm going to say is a world clock application is how I'm going to pick this one.

00:33:07   Just because Calzones is an app that's become so important to me as a way to be able to keep track of all of the wild time zones

00:33:17   of the many people I work with. Like right now, I am in a time zone that is plus two hours from my regular time zone.

00:33:24   So understanding when on earth I'm recording with Jason, I really need to be able to have an application that can do that.

00:33:30   And Calzones is wonderful. It has really great UI, being able for me to see at a glance the time zones of when all my events are,

00:33:38   coupled with all of the different times of all of the people that I work with.

00:33:41   It has a wonderful widget as well that I'm a big fan of. I absolutely love this application.

00:33:46   Myke, rules question, is Calzones not a calendar app?

00:33:49   It has calendar functionality, but I'm going to say for category specifics, it is a time zone conversion application.

00:33:58   Okay, alright, okay, I'll allow it. I'm a softy, I'll allow it.

00:34:02   We make the rules. We make the rules here.

00:34:05   Take that clock app, you're disqualified from your use as a time zone conversion app.

00:34:10   Uh huh, see you later clock. Although, maybe we could clock as an alarm app, we'll work that out later on.

00:34:15   Yeah, you just have to re-categorize it, but it can't be used as a time zone app now, because that's out.

00:34:21   No, it can't be. Alright, what have you got next?

00:34:24   Oh boy, um, I, uh, things are getting complicated now. I'm going to pick Shortcuts next.

00:34:33   Yes, I have the Shortcuts app on my home screen.

00:34:36   So do I.

00:34:37   And I, you know, you can get things from widgets and you can run things in the share sheet,

00:34:42   but sometimes I'm running Shortcuts or I'm editing Shortcuts right out in, just in app land.

00:34:48   I just want to open Shortcuts and go there and see what's going on and run a Shortcut.

00:34:54   And I love Shortcuts. I use it more on my iPad, I'll be honest, than on my iPhone, but I do use it on my iPhone.

00:34:59   And I need to have it handy, so I put Shortcuts, put the power of Shortcuts right on my home screen.

00:35:05   I am really happy that the Maps category has remained open to this point of the home screen draft,

00:35:11   so I can pick Google Maps, because I believe Google Maps to be superior over Apple Maps.

00:35:17   Especially outside of America, Google Maps really gets the job done, especially with all the point of interest information.

00:35:25   And then when you're in a point of interest, finding out, like, when is it open, when is it busy, you know,

00:35:30   and having all of that data available to you, as well as what I have found to be more reliable transit information,

00:35:37   Google Maps is my preferred mapping application.

00:35:40   Yeah, that's one that I let sit there, because I could have picked Apple Maps and I thought about it,

00:35:48   and I thought, I'm just going to hear from everybody complaining about Apple Maps and that Google Maps is better,

00:35:53   and I'm already going to hear from all the Tweetbot people, so why should I really hear from all the Google Maps people too?

00:35:58   So I'm happy to let you have Google Maps.

00:36:00   Yeah, leave the Apple Maps people to me, right? I'll take the flag for Maps, you take the flag for Twitter clients.

00:36:07   That's how we're going to kind of let this one roll.

00:36:09   It's a important consideration when you're drafting apps.

00:36:11   Who's going to get it less?

00:36:13   Okay, my next choice is going to be 1Password, which I also have on my home screen.

00:36:20   And yes, I know that there are a lot of places where password lookup happens in browsers and things like that,

00:36:25   and yet you know what? I am opening 1Password all the time to look something up, to copy something out, to, you know,

00:36:32   it doesn't always work, the in-browser integration. I've got to make edits, I've got to type in a password on my daughter's computer,

00:36:38   she's like, "What's the password for this?" And so I want it at hand, and so I always have 1Password at hand.

00:36:44   It's not just passwords though, like, I just got a new credit card and I have my PIN number saved in there.

00:36:50   We got a new PIN number, I haven't changed the PIN number, and so I saved the PIN number in 1Password,

00:36:55   so then when I need to grab it or I need to remember it, I have it saved in there, I have all of my bank account information in there,

00:37:01   it's so much more than just passwords. So yeah, I'm the same, I agree, like, Safari Keychain is a great example,

00:37:07   like, Safari Keychain is so much better now, but I still want to be able to use 1Password,

00:37:13   and I love that they changed in iOS 12, right, which lets me use 1Password, like, you can use the third-party password managers

00:37:20   in the little quick look bar, so it only made 1Password even stronger for me, but it's more than just plain password management,

00:37:28   it's so much more, it's like all of that secret information you want to keep at hand.

00:37:33   Should we do weather? Should we move into the weather category?

00:37:37   Sure, if you want to, you get to decide.

00:37:40   I'm going to pick carrot weather.

00:37:41   Yay!

00:37:42   I love carrot weather. Like, I understand some people don't like the character that the app has, which is easy to turn off if it's not a thing that you want.

00:37:50   I like it.

00:37:51   I don't like it, I turn it off, it's fine.

00:37:53   And I get it, right, because it's like, you know, maybe you don't want a cartoon character effectively in your weather application,

00:37:59   but it's there if I ever want to see it, but more often than not, I don't really see a lot of the stuff that's in there,

00:38:05   kind of like the character, but it's there, it's still there, I can get it for a joke if I want to.

00:38:09   But really, for me, carrot weather is one of my very favourite iPhone applications.

00:38:15   The amount of development that goes into this app kind of astounds me, like all of the new features that the carrot team put into carrot weather.

00:38:23   I didn't really know so many features could be added to a weather application over time, but they keep making it more and more powerful.

00:38:31   I love the way that it visualises data, I love how customisable it is.

00:38:35   Like, I can put all of the information that I want where I want it, depending on what is important to me, right?

00:38:42   Like, for me, I want to know feels like temperature, I want to know rainfall percentage, I want to know wind, and I want to know UV.

00:38:49   Like, they are the four things that I really want to have available to me, because depending on where I am or what I'm doing, they're the things that I care most about,

00:38:57   and I'm able to have all of that, like, where exactly where I need it in the application.

00:39:01   So, it also has an amazing Apple Watch app as well, like carrot weather is the bee's knees.

00:39:06   Yep, I agree completely, and I was going to pick it and I realised you would pick it, and I didn't need to worry about it.

00:39:12   And thank you for justifying my strategy.

00:39:15   Alright, with my choice, I am going to go with, sorry Spotify fans, I'm going with the music app.

00:39:23   I am an Apple Music user, I've got my old MP3 library loaded up in iCloud Music library,

00:39:29   and I've got a whole bunch of playlists and all sorts of other stuff that I have access to that I've built since I subscribed to Apple Music.

00:39:36   I use Apple Music on my phone all the time, and not on my iPad, because I don't listen to music on my iPad,

00:39:43   but I do use the music app on my phone when I'm travelling, when I want to listen to music in the car, all of those things.

00:39:49   Plus, I also will use my iPhone to control my AirPlay speakers, like my HomePods in the house.

00:39:56   So, I actually use the music app a lot, and that's why I want it on my home screen.

00:40:00   I use the music app as well, so I'll take this flag for you as well.

00:40:04   Again, it's like notes, music is tied really well into the system, and considering I'm so heavy in the Apple ecosystem,

00:40:12   like the fact that I own a HomePod, you kind of need to be a music user at a certain point,

00:40:17   because if you really want to be able to take advantage of that device, Spotify is not going to cut it for you.

00:40:23   So, rightly or wrongly, that's one of the big reasons that I remain in music.

00:40:28   And also, as well, I'm not huge on the music discovery features of a music streaming service in general.

00:40:36   I like to find my music either myself or from friend recommendations, this is kind of how I am.

00:40:42   So, I know that Spotify is considered to be better with a lot of the algorithmic stuff, but it's less of a thing that I care about.

00:40:48   So, at that point, I'm just choosing which app I like most, and I'm not a big fan of the Spotify app.

00:40:54   I like the music app more, so that's kind of where I am.

00:40:57   I think if you don't care about the algorithmic stuff, these apps are very similar.

00:41:03   They have the same catalogues available to them, so really you're just making very minor decisions at that point,

00:41:09   and I go with music for a bunch of reasons.

00:41:12   I am going to pick a social network, and I'm going to pick Instagram.

00:41:16   I love Instagram. It is my favorite social network. It is the one that I check the most.

00:41:21   It is the one that I enjoy spending the most time in. Instagram doesn't make me angry.

00:41:27   Instagram doesn't make me sad. Instagram makes me happy.

00:41:30   I like to see what my friends are up to. I like to be creative and post stuff myself.

00:41:35   That is my preferred social network in general these days.

00:41:39   I still use Twitter a lot. It's where I get my news. It's where I'm able to promote stuff.

00:41:44   But Instagram has become the place where I get to see what the people that I care about are doing,

00:41:50   and that's why I check it.

00:41:53   And I think, like screen time these days, I was checking some stats recently.

00:41:57   I open and spend more time on Instagram now than I do with Twitter.

00:42:00   That was something that changed a few months ago.

00:42:02   So I'm happy about that because it was something that I actually wanted to do this year

00:42:07   was to kind of shift where I was spending my time,

00:42:10   to spend time if I'm going to be spending social network time in a place that makes me happier

00:42:14   rather than a place that is unpredictable for me.

00:42:18   So that's why I would want it on my home screen because it's so important to me.

00:42:22   Now, excuse me, I believe Jason already picked Twitter, which is a social network.

00:42:27   So how could you allow Myke to pick Instagram as a social network?

00:42:32   I think that in category, Twitter is its own category, right?

00:42:36   Like I feel like it was choosing a Twitter app, right?

00:42:38   And now Instagram is in the Instagram category.

00:42:42   I agree. I agree completely. I don't think that guy was, but I agree completely.

00:42:45   Well, how did he get on this call, Jason?

00:42:47   I don't know. It's just I have internalized the rules of patents out there.

00:42:51   And anyway, moving on to my choice, I'm going to choose something.

00:42:55   I, you know, I have a family and sometimes you need to know where the heck the family is.

00:43:00   Oh, good choice.

00:43:01   And we went to my daughter's high school graduation last week.

00:43:04   And we were all wandering around on a very large football field and outside of it.

00:43:09   And we're like, where do we meet after the ceremony? And where are you?

00:43:12   Oh, you're over there. Why don't we meet over there?

00:43:14   And I was able to find the location of my entire family using the Find My Friends app.

00:43:19   My daughter, you know, every now and then it'll be like, oh, where is she?

00:43:23   Like, she's on a little mini vacation with her friends right now.

00:43:26   And I know where she is. It's just great.

00:43:28   Again, am I spying on my daughter? I'm just checking up on her a little.

00:43:31   It's okay. But like, we'll have that. Like, when do I start dinner?

00:43:34   My wife is on the way back from work, but she stopped at the supermarket.

00:43:37   And I know she's still at the supermarket. I know what the timing is like.

00:43:40   It is super convenient. And yes, it does mean that my mom knows where I am at all times.

00:43:45   It's fine. I let her. It makes her feel better. It's okay.

00:43:47   But I use Find My Friends all the time. And it's great.

00:43:51   And you're a friend on Find My Friends, and so is Stephen. So I can always know.

00:43:54   Yeah, I use Find My Friends all the time.

00:43:56   It is the best. WWDC, all of a sudden, it's like all these little bubbles pop up.

00:44:00   And I'm like, oh, my friends are here. It's great.

00:44:02   I love it. That's my favorite time is when I land at the airport and then, like, see people coming in.

00:44:07   It's wonderful. But I use Find My Friends all the time.

00:44:09   I have a small group of friends that I have there and also my wife as well.

00:44:13   So we have Adina, we have you, we have Stephen. I have a bunch of friends on there.

00:44:19   Sometimes I just like to know where my friends are. I don't think that's too weird.

00:44:24   But it's a thing. And I love Find My Friends. I think that it's a super well-done application.

00:44:30   I'm really intrigued to see what the Find My app is.

00:44:33   I haven't really spent much time looking into that one yet because I'm still not on the betas

00:44:37   because I'm traveling. I'm waiting for beta 2. I want to see what that's like, and I might put it on my iPad.

00:44:42   But the integration of, like, all my devices as well being in the same thing,

00:44:46   I actually think it could be kind of useful. So it will be useful.

00:44:49   Like, I don't see why it wouldn't be, but I'm intrigued to see what other stuff is going to be in Find My.

00:44:54   I don't like that name, by the way, Find My.

00:44:56   Yeah, I agree.

00:44:57   I think it should have come up with a new name for it. I don't think that that's very elegant at all.

00:45:01   Jason, I'm going to be really boring now, but I had to pick it. Files.

00:45:06   Oh, files. Oh, that's great. I have that on my home screen on my iPad,

00:45:11   not on my iPhone, but sure.

00:45:12   I need to get to files. And so I use the Files app. It's very, very boring, but that is a pick.

00:45:18   Files is what I'm going to go with for pick 19.

00:45:21   All right. I mean, what can you say? It's a way to get to your files.

00:45:26   I need files, and they're in the Files app.

00:45:28   In fact, I will make you feel better.

00:45:31   An app I never don't have on page one of my home screen ever, ever, ever is the most boring app you could possibly imagine.

00:45:40   It is Settings. And I choose Settings.

00:45:43   Yay!

00:45:44   Settings.

00:45:45   You got to have Settings up there because you never know when you're going to need to.

00:45:47   Well, when I was 13, you'll have other ways.

00:45:49   But what I was going to say is you'll never know when you're going to need to connect to a Bluetooth device,

00:45:52   and you have to open Settings and tap on Bluetooth and then tap on the device because otherwise it, for some reason, just won't connect.

00:45:59   Anyway, I use a lot of Settings.

00:46:02   Settings lives on the top left of my second screen.

00:46:06   I do not begrudge that it took a long time for me to move Settings away from my home screen, but I needed the space, and it just got bumped off.

00:46:14   But I 100% am happy with Settings being on the upgrade iPhone home screen.

00:46:21   So now we're going to go -- I'm going to go with Peacock now by a friend of the show, James Thompson.

00:46:26   I need calculation a lot.

00:46:30   It's something that I do a lot.

00:46:31   I deal a lot with needing to work out percentages of stuff, and just in general, I like to use calculation.

00:46:40   Again, I know that I can get to the Apple calculator from Control Center, but it's just not my favorite.

00:46:45   So I like to use Peacock.

00:46:47   Peacock is my favorite calculator application.

00:46:49   I like the themes.

00:46:51   I like the icons that you can choose from, and I like the customization.

00:46:54   I like that you can kind of program your own buttons.

00:46:57   And I love that it has a hidden game and all the great AR stuff in there, which is not necessarily helpful for calculation, but makes me just love the app all the more.

00:47:05   So I'm a big Peacock fan.

00:47:07   It is on my home screen, and it now lives on the upgrade home screen as well.

00:47:10   Nice. It does. It does.

00:47:12   It's going to be there near Reminders, which I'm also putting on.

00:47:16   I use Reminders for all of my story lists.

00:47:22   And so here's the thing.

00:47:25   I was just having this conversation with Stephen Hackett earlier today where he said I had a really great idea for something for liftoff, and I didn't write it down.

00:47:32   And now I don't remember it.

00:47:33   And it's like, yeah, this is what I use Reminders for.

00:47:35   It's right in the name.

00:47:36   It reminds you of things.

00:47:37   And I don't use it as my to-do list manager per se, but I do use it as my place to write down things in an ordered way.

00:47:46   So not notes where I have a story list one.

00:47:48   I've got a things I need to remember for when we're going on a trip.

00:47:52   Things that I thought of it, and I know that if I don't write it down right now, it will be lost, and I want it in a structured list.

00:48:00   And that is what I use Reminders for.

00:48:02   I was going to pick Todoist next.

00:48:04   I, in all good faith, will not be picking Todoist.

00:48:07   I feel like that one's way too close.

00:48:09   But yeah, Reminders, I mean, who knows?

00:48:12   As I said, maybe Reminders will be where all of my to-dos live in just a few months time.

00:48:16   We'll find out.

00:48:17   But Reminders is good to be there for now, I think.

00:48:20   So I am going to pick one of my new favorite applications.

00:48:24   I am a time tracking human being.

00:48:26   I like to track my time.

00:48:27   I'm tracking my time right now.

00:48:29   And I use a service called Toggl, with T-O-G-G-L.

00:48:32   But the Toggl app is garbage.

00:48:34   And there is a third-party app that I really like called Timery.

00:48:38   And I've been using Timery for months now.

00:48:40   It's been out for a little while.

00:48:41   I'm a big fan of it.

00:48:43   It gives me all of the features that I want for time tracking.

00:48:45   Makes it super easy.

00:48:46   Again, has another widget.

00:48:47   I love widgets.

00:48:48   That's one of the widgets that I use.

00:48:49   So I use Timery for my time tracking.

00:48:51   And I'm very happy to have it there.

00:48:53   Jason will have nothing to say about this.

00:48:55   But if you do use Toggl, then you should use Timery.

00:48:58   I am going to pick -- we're getting down to it now, Myke.

00:49:04   Let's see.

00:49:05   I picked boring settings.

00:49:06   I picked one password.

00:49:08   I -- Myke, you may know this about me.

00:49:11   I'm what the kids call an old -- can you guess what app I'm going to pick?

00:49:17   Phone.

00:49:18   Phone is my choice.

00:49:20   I have to call people on the phone.

00:49:23   I make FaceTime calls on -- using the phone app.

00:49:27   That is a thing I have to do.

00:49:30   Even now in the year 2019, the phone app is an app I need.

00:49:34   And I tried to move it away from my home screen.

00:49:36   And you know what?

00:49:37   It doesn't work.

00:49:38   I got to have it on my home screen.

00:49:40   So it lives in the top row right next to messages.

00:49:43   And I use it when I need to initiate a phone call or FaceTime.

00:49:46   That's interesting.

00:49:47   It's perfectly fine to have there.

00:49:49   It is a phone after all.

00:49:51   I'm fine with it being here.

00:49:53   But whenever I want to initiate a call, I always search for the person in Spotlight.

00:49:57   That's how I tend to do it.

00:49:58   Interesting.

00:49:59   I'm not telling you to change.

00:50:00   I'm not telling anyone to change.

00:50:01   The phone app lived on my home screen for a long time out of inertia.

00:50:04   I was like, well, it should be here.

00:50:06   It was in my dock for a long time as well.

00:50:07   It's like, it's a phone.

00:50:08   I need the phone app.

00:50:09   But then I just don't -- I personally don't really use the phone very often.

00:50:13   I don't even FaceTime very much.

00:50:15   If I did FaceTime more, I would either have the FaceTime or the phone app on my home screen.

00:50:19   But right now, I just search for people and contact them that way.

00:50:22   But you know what, Jason?

00:50:24   I was going to put the phone -- if I didn't -- my last pick was going to be the phone

00:50:29   if it hadn't come up already just because I felt like it probably should be there.

00:50:34   Probably should, yeah.

00:50:35   It made sense to be there.

00:50:36   Jason, I need to wake up every day.

00:50:37   Oh, no.

00:50:38   And the way that I wake up is by using an alarm.

00:50:42   And the alarm can be found in the clock app.

00:50:44   Oh.

00:50:45   So the alarm category will be taken up by the clock app.

00:50:48   We dodged a bullet there.

00:50:49   Clock.

00:50:51   Clock.

00:50:52   Mm-hmm.

00:50:53   I have nothing else to say, but I feel like clock is important because it's where our

00:50:57   alarms go, so.

00:50:59   Because that is where the alarms go.

00:51:01   All right.

00:51:02   Okay.

00:51:03   I see your point there.

00:51:04   Wow, we're getting down to the end here.

00:51:08   And the choices that I have left are, shall we say, quirkier choices that not everybody

00:51:15   would put on their home screen, but I have them on.

00:51:18   But isn't that part of the wonderful thing?

00:51:21   It's like there's -- no one can contest what you're going to put on here, Jason.

00:51:25   So you can do whatever you want.

00:51:26   So, you know, Control Center is great.

00:51:28   I use Control Center a lot.

00:51:29   There are a lot of things you can do from Control Center, but Control Center is simple,

00:51:33   and it has its limits.

00:51:34   And beyond a certain point, you have to go to the app.

00:51:37   You have to go to settings, or for controlling devices in your home, you have to go to the

00:51:42   home app.

00:51:43   And so the home app is on my home screen, and I use it all the time to adjust the lighting

00:51:48   or to turn on a light somewhere or to adjust the thermostat.

00:51:53   Sometimes I can do that from Control Center.

00:51:54   Other times, it is easier to do it to change the automation, so I change when the lights

00:51:58   come on and off.

00:51:59   I leave the home screen home.

00:52:02   It puts the name in home screen.

00:52:03   What's home screen without a home map?

00:52:05   I see.

00:52:07   Having just made that up.

00:52:08   We need a screen app.

00:52:11   All right.

00:52:12   This is my last pick now.

00:52:13   Oh, boy.

00:52:14   OK.

00:52:15   So my last pick.

00:52:16   Let me think about this.

00:52:17   I have a selection of applications here that I want to choose from.

00:52:20   And I think I think.

00:52:22   OK, so I do a lot of gaming on my iPhone.

00:52:24   I always have.

00:52:25   I love iPhone games.

00:52:26   So I feel like the upgrade iPhone home screen should have a game on it.

00:52:31   And I'm going to pick, I think, my favorite iPhone game of all time, which is threes.

00:52:36   I love threes.

00:52:37   I still play threes.

00:52:38   I play all the time, especially when I'm on planes or I'm in lines or I'm like traveling.

00:52:43   It is a game that I can always pick up and I can always enjoy no matter how long I want

00:52:47   to put into it.

00:52:48   I have been playing consistently for the many, many, many, many, many years that it's been

00:52:52   available.

00:52:53   If you've never played threes, we will be doing you a service by telling you to go and

00:52:58   download the application.

00:52:59   It is superb.

00:53:00   I love it.

00:53:01   It's a wonderful game and I'm happy to have it included on the iPhone upgrade home screen.

00:53:07   It's a that's a really good game.

00:53:08   It's not it's not my favorite iPhone game, but it is a great game.

00:53:12   And I think it's perfectly appropriate that we have a game on the upgrade home screen

00:53:16   and that leaves one more app, one twenty eighth app.

00:53:20   And as everybody knows from listening to this show every April, there is nothing Myke likes

00:53:26   more than hearing about the traditions and excitement of the sport of American baseball.

00:53:32   Oh, that is why.

00:53:33   Oh, really?

00:53:34   Honestly, a banner app.

00:53:37   It's in the Macworld Hall of Fame.

00:53:39   It is always mentioned.

00:53:41   Watch this.

00:53:42   Always mentioned by Apple at keynotes.

00:53:45   Very rarely does a keynote not pass when Major League Baseball's MLB at Bad App doesn't get

00:53:52   mentioned.

00:53:53   The reason is they're really good at supporting new Apple features.

00:53:57   Yeah.

00:53:58   Sometimes they announce support for new Apple features that are impossible and they can't

00:54:01   actually do them like when they did that a demo last year showing how augmented reality

00:54:05   was going to come to the app and you were going to have data overlaid over the field

00:54:09   when you're at the stadium that never shipped.

00:54:11   But I use it all the time to check the scores and listen to the radio and all sorts of things

00:54:16   like that.

00:54:17   And who doesn't like it when they roll out the baseballs on opening day, they open the

00:54:20   gate, they roll out the baseballs and then there are baseballs out there.

00:54:22   So you can check that out in the MLB at Bad App, Myke.

00:54:25   Yeah.

00:54:26   This is one of those ones where obviously I have no interest, but I am very aware of

00:54:29   the fact that this is a very good application, not just because it's where you get to your

00:54:34   baseballs, but it's actually a good app itself.

00:54:36   So I'm mostly fine with that being there.

00:54:39   You get threes, I get MLB at Bad.

00:54:41   You get your baseballs.

00:54:42   Yeah.

00:54:43   That's right.

00:54:44   Everybody's happy.

00:54:45   So we now have our 28.

00:54:46   Now we're going to pick our dock and then we can very quickly, I will run through the

00:54:49   order. So in case people at home want to rearrange their home screen, they can do that.

00:54:54   So we now get one, we get two of these each, right?

00:54:57   We'll just continue going through the order.

00:54:59   So I'll pick one.

00:55:00   You pick one.

00:55:01   These are, these are being pulled down.

00:55:02   So we've got 28 and we're going to pull them down and put them in the dock.

00:55:05   All right.

00:55:06   I am going to go with overcast.

00:55:10   Very nice.

00:55:11   That is in fact where my overcast is.

00:55:14   Yep.

00:55:15   Mine too.

00:55:16   What's your dock pick?

00:55:17   Safari.

00:55:18   Good one.

00:55:19   That's a very good one.

00:55:21   Spark.

00:55:22   Fine.

00:55:23   You can have your spark.

00:55:24   And that means I am going to put Slack.

00:55:27   Ooh, good one.

00:55:29   Yep.

00:55:30   Slack's in my dock too.

00:55:31   All right.

00:55:32   So we have it.

00:55:33   We have the iPhone home screen, the upgraded iPhone home screen.

00:55:36   We did it everybody.

00:55:37   We did it.

00:55:38   They said it couldn't be done.

00:55:39   Whatever it is we did, I don't know, but we did it.

00:55:41   We did it.

00:55:42   We picked 28 apps that are awesome and should be on everyone's home screen.

00:55:46   If you want to reorder your home screen to look like the one that we have just made in

00:55:51   the summer of fun so you can live out your entire summer in this very fun way, you will

00:55:56   want to start with the top left and you will go like this messages, camera, fantastic.

00:56:01   Cal notes, Twitter, epic photos, Calzones, shortcuts, Google maps, one password, carrot

00:56:08   weather, music, Instagram, find my friends, files, settings, peak, alc reminders, Timery

00:56:15   phone, clock home threes, MLB at bat, overcast, safari, spark, and slack.

00:56:23   That almost felt like the pokey rap, which is kind of incredible.

00:56:26   There was a part in the middle where it started to rhyme, which I was very excited about.

00:56:30   So that is it.

00:56:31   That is the upgrade iPhone home screen draft.

00:56:35   I hope you enjoyed that much as we enjoy putting it together.

00:56:39   This is the first summer of fun topic for this year and a great way to start the summer

00:56:43   of fun if I do say so myself, but no episode of upgrade will be complete without some hashtag

00:56:48   ask upgrade questions.

00:56:50   And we're going to get to that in just a moment.

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00:57:59   So we have some hashtag ask upgrade questions, Jason.

00:58:02   And the first one comes from Emital.

00:58:05   And Emital asks, how do you choose which apps to keep on your home screen on the iPad given

00:58:10   that those apps can't be used easily for multitasking?

00:58:13   Can you provide examples of apps that are better suited to the home screen than the

00:58:16   dock?

00:58:17   So I wanted to just clear something up here about this question.

00:58:20   So the idea being that like if an app is on your home screen and it's not in your dock,

00:58:24   it's not as easy to bring it into multitasking.

00:58:27   So it is possible to do right.

00:58:29   You can always go home and you press and hold on an application.

00:58:32   You press and hold on another one.

00:58:34   It opens that second application and then you drag and drop it in.

00:58:37   It's not the easiest way to do it.

00:58:38   The easiest way to do it is to use the dock as keyboard users of the iPad.

00:58:43   I am able to access every single app on my iPad via spotlight.

00:58:47   And then when you do that, you can drag and drop it right.

00:58:49   This really should be a feature that's available somehow with a software keyboard,

00:58:54   I think, or just in the software version, like without using a hardware keyboard.

00:58:59   But Jason, what is your kind of strategy for apps that go on the home screen?

00:59:03   And apps that go on the dock of your iPad?

00:59:06   I just loaded up everything that I commonly use in multitasking got stuffed in the dock.

00:59:12   And my dock focus on iPhone is very different.

00:59:16   It's just to have them in their special place and they're viewable.

00:59:19   On the iPad, literally any app I can think of that I use in that context, I stuff in the dock.

00:59:26   And everything else, I'm usually using a keyboard so I can just use spotlight to find those apps

00:59:32   and then I drag them into multitasking that way.

00:59:34   Exactly. And of course, there is limited space in the dock, right?

00:59:36   So I also have a folder.

00:59:38   So for apps that are like utility apps that I use very frequently in split view, I have a folder for those.

00:59:43   And if I find myself using something frequently, like either searching for it by spotlight

00:59:47   or going to the home screen to grab it, I put it in that folder.

00:59:50   And then it's always accessible to me whenever I need it.

00:59:53   I know a lot of people that just have like a couple of folders on their dock

00:59:57   and a bunch of applications and they have nothing on the home screen.

00:59:59   It's like I think that that with this current state of the iPad makes perfect sense.

01:00:03   But kind of that's how we make it work.

01:00:06   Roger wants to know, "Are you both still hopeful for an iPad laptop?

01:00:11   I still long for the clamshell form factor, but it feels less likely to me."

01:00:15   Jason, do you still want, even after iOS 13, an iPad OS, I should say, the iPad laptop?

01:00:22   Yeah, I think it's less likely that given Apple's direction that it's going to do that.

01:00:27   I would actually say I think it's more likely that there will eventually be a Mac OS touchscreen laptop

01:00:32   that is running those apps that are going to be coming over from iOS via Catalyst.

01:00:38   And I'm not sure how likely that is either.

01:00:40   I do feel like the thing that Apple is missing is a convertible device.

01:00:44   And I have friends who've got kids going off to college and there's this question of like,

01:00:48   "Can they use an iPad?" And it's like, "Mmm, you know, it might be tough.

01:00:52   Maybe with iOS 13 and the new Safari desktop browsing features you could get away with it,

01:00:57   but you worry about incompatibilities."

01:00:59   But Apple doesn't make something like the Surface.

01:01:02   And there are a lot of PC convertibles, things that can be a tablet but can also be a laptop.

01:01:08   So am I hopeful? I'm not.

01:01:12   I guess I'd say my biggest hope is that Apple at some point recognizes that

01:01:17   a first-party convertible keyboard thing for the iPad, or the iPad Pro anyway,

01:01:25   would be preferable to something like the Brydge keyboard,

01:01:29   and that Apple actually builds a future iPad Pro with the ability to do something more than the smart keyboard.

01:01:37   But given the smart keyboard, given that Apple is saying sort of like, "Let the iPad be the iPad,"

01:01:42   given what Apple is doing with Catalyst to push iPad apps to the Mac,

01:01:47   I'm not super hopeful about any of those. I wouldn't say that any of those is particularly likely.

01:01:54   And that's what's frustrating is that I think a Mac with a touchscreen would be nice.

01:01:58   I think an iPad with a proper first-party kind of like laptop mode would be nice.

01:02:04   I think an iOS laptop would still be nice.

01:02:06   I'm not sure I would give very good odds on any of those things happening

01:02:10   because it would require Apple to, you know, Apple does diverge from their approaches to their products,

01:02:17   and they do it in surprising ways sometimes. But right now they've been very consistent,

01:02:22   and the moves they're making don't seem to be moves that are obviously leading.

01:02:26   Like Catalyst, in some ways, because of the way that they've framed it about how you take a Mac or an iPad app

01:02:33   and make it a Mac app, I feel like in some ways I'm less enthusiastic about the idea of a touchscreen

01:02:39   on the Mac ever because they really want these apps to be Mac apps, which is great,

01:02:46   but that also gives them less incentive to introduce touch on the Mac,

01:02:51   which I feel like I would really like them to do at some point.

01:02:54   I actually think as well like some of the stuff that they added to iPadOS makes me feel like I need a laptop form factor less,

01:03:02   especially with something like the bridge keyboard. I feel like I basically have what I want.

01:03:05   I mean, we said that before anyway, and now being able to use a mouse and trackpad and where that might go in the future,

01:03:11   I feel like I will be able to build what I want without Apple needing to do it so much.

01:03:16   So I'm kind of happy with where we are.

01:03:18   But I agree with you that it does feel more likely than ever that Apple will make some kind of touchscreen product,

01:03:25   but it will most likely be running Mac OS, and I still think that they should do that.

01:03:29   Stefan asks, "Do you think that the second-gen 12.9-inch iPad Pro is worth getting if it's a secondhand product or refurbished product?

01:03:37   I've outgrown my 10.5, but can't quite justify the cost of a new 12.9."

01:03:42   You know, the second-gen products are good.

01:03:44   There was a big performance leap with the third generation 12.9.

01:03:49   But, you know, if the new 12.9 is too -- I mean, I'd look at the refurbished price of a new 12.9

01:03:57   and see if that is closer to what you want.

01:04:00   But I don't know. And you've outgrown the 10.5.

01:04:05   Have you looked at the 11, which is, again, going to be more expensive, but it is a little bit bigger than the 10.5.

01:04:11   I feel like you could get a pretty good deal and you'd be happy with a second-gen 12.9-inch iPad Pro,

01:04:17   but I will say I feel like there is a line at those third generation models, the current iPad Pro models,

01:04:24   and that it's nothing right now. It's invisible right now.

01:04:29   But I have this, I don't know, sense in looking at the specs that there will come a day when those models forward

01:04:38   will be capable of doing things and those previous models won't be.

01:04:41   And that's what gives me pause about giving a recommendation for that second-gen iPad Pro.

01:04:46   I think it'll be good for a while, but I worry that there will come a time when they will not be --

01:04:51   it'll be like, nope, those aren't covered in whatever thing that Apple introduces next.

01:04:55   Yeah, it might get outdated quite quickly.

01:04:58   But that could be the problem with getting that one right now.

01:05:01   Yeah.

01:05:02   Hall asks, "Is there an easy or quick way to switch my AirPods between an iPhone and a MacBook?

01:05:08   I feel like I'm forever in Bluetooth settings."

01:05:11   So I have never used my AirPods with a Mac.

01:05:16   It's just not something that I have done.

01:05:18   But I do know of an application that exists by a friend of the show, Guillermo Rambo, it's called AirBuddy,

01:05:23   as a little utility that can help you switch it quicker.

01:05:26   And I've heard good things about it.

01:05:27   I don't know if you've ever used this or if you ever use AirPods with your Mac, Jason,

01:05:31   but I know that this thing exists, so you can check it out if it's something that you would want.

01:05:36   This might be able to give you what you're looking for.

01:05:39   So go check that out.

01:05:40   No, I haven't used it.

01:05:41   David in the chat room says that that app may not be available.

01:05:45   So if people want to try a different alternative, there's also an app called Tooth Fairy that seems to do about the same thing.

01:05:51   We'll put that link in the show notes, too.

01:05:53   And finally today, Todd asks, "Does iPad or did iPadOS enable all of the audio features that Jason and Myke and every podcaster have been asking for?"

01:06:02   Jason, did it happen?

01:06:04   So I wrote a piece last week on six colors that I encourage people to read about the iPadOS wish list meeting reality.

01:06:12   And one of the sections in there is about this.

01:06:14   The short version is no.

01:06:16   There are no really visible audio changes that seem like they will solve my issue, which is I'd like to run an app that records my microphone while I'm running another app that's doing voice over IP.

01:06:26   And ideally, I'd like that app to be able to record the system audio or the app audio as well as my audio, you know, audio hijack, basically.

01:06:33   Doesn't seem to be possible.

01:06:35   Apple is making changes.

01:06:36   There are some changes they deprecated.

01:06:38   Some older audio stuff, inter-app communication, which is like audio bus, seems to be going away and there's this new audio units thing that they want people to use.

01:06:46   It gives me a little bit of hope that maybe what's happening is Apple is sort of on the march to doing a more advanced audio system in iOS because iOS's audio system in many ways is still super rudimentary.

01:06:58   The fact that you can't do these things that the Mac can do and that you probably should.

01:07:03   And they can do it in a secure way.

01:07:05   I want them to do it the right way, but I want them to do it.

01:07:07   In the meantime, what really enabled is that file access means we can use an external audio recorder and then just pop the card in and read the files off.

01:07:17   And so that will save me a lot of time and I will not have to carry around a separate box to do the file transfer.

01:07:25   But the actual on-device audio recording is not there as far as I can tell in iOS 13.

01:07:32   Yeah, but there's some change though, as you said, some change to the way that audio is working is a positive sign.

01:07:36   Because it's been so long and they haven't really done anything.

01:07:39   So like some changes happening to some of the way that the APIs work there could be a good sign for something coming in the future.

01:07:46   We'll see about that.

01:07:47   Yep.

01:07:48   All right, so that wraps up episode 250 of Upgrade and the introduction to the 2019 Summer of Fun.

01:07:54   If you would like to send out a question for a future episode of the show, just send out a tweet with the hashtag #AskUpgrade and it may be included on a future episode.

01:08:03   Thank you so much to everybody that does that every single week.

01:08:06   I have a lovely backlog of great questions, which I'm still pulling from.

01:08:09   So thank you so much for doing that.

01:08:11   If you want to find Jason online, he is @jsnell on social media.

01:08:16   You can find his work at sixcolors.com and the incomparable.com.

01:08:19   And Jason hosts many shows here at Relay FM.

01:08:22   You can go to relay.fm/shows to find those.

01:08:25   I do too.

01:08:26   So relay.fm/shows.

01:08:27   You can find a lot of stuff that I do.

01:08:29   I'm @imike, I-M-Y-K-E on the social media channels too as well.

01:08:33   Thanks so much to Astropad Studio, KiwiCo and Holo for their support of this show.

01:08:38   And thank you for listening as we celebrate a quarter of a way to a thousand episodes.

01:08:45   Sure.

01:08:46   I'm sure we'll get, I was thinking about this, I'm sure we'll get to a thousand episodes.

01:08:49   It's only like another 12 years or something.

01:08:51   Yeah, sure.

01:08:52   It's no problem.

01:08:53   I'm sure Jason will be fine with that.

01:08:54   I'm going to sign him right up because I love doing Upgrade.

01:08:56   I really do.

01:08:57   Yep.

01:08:58   It is an absolute highlight of my week every week.

01:09:01   And I'm so thankful that I get to do this show with you and we get to put it out there

01:09:05   for all the Upgradients who really, you know, people seem to really love this show and we

01:09:09   love making it.

01:09:10   So thank you so much for tuning in.

01:09:11   Absolutely.

01:09:12   And we'll be back next time.

01:09:13   Until then, say goodbye, Jason Snell.

01:09:15   Thanks to everybody out there and thanks to you, Myke.

01:09:17   We'll see you next week.

01:09:18   Goodbye, everybody.

01:09:19   Bye, everybody.

01:09:20   Bye, everybody.

01:09:20   Bye, everybody.

01:09:21   Bye, everybody.

01:09:22   Bye, everybody.

01:09:22   Bye, everybody.

01:09:23   Bye, everybody.

01:09:24   Bye, everybody.

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