00:00:00 ◼ ► the uncomfortable part cup number 1 i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/0">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► go vegan and welcome to the incomparable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/6">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► podcast this is jason Snell i am your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/10">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► host what will the incomparable podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/12">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► be well it's a good question i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/15">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► sure we know the actual answer to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/17">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► we're hoping you'll let us know here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/20">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► the idea the idea is to get a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/22">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► people I know together who are will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/23">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► admit a little bit on the geeky side and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/26">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► probably call geek culture sci-fi comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/30">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► books fantasy maybe a little bit across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/34">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► genres so I think the way this is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/37">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► to work is every week we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/39">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► have a new genre we're going to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/41">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► this week with books sci-fi novels in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/42">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► particular next week move on to comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/46">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► books and then in forthcoming weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/48">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► we'll throw in movies and TV and who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/50">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► knows what else maybe we'll do a special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/52">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► music edition and talk about Kiki music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/54">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► anyway that's the premise I've gathered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/59">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► several of my friends in the technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/61">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► business actually but where else to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/64">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► people and today we're going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/66">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► started with a discussion of sci-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/69">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► joining me is Scott McNulty hello Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/73">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► hello Jason it's good to have you here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/77">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► you're very well-read gentlemen I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/79">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► that's good that's what well-read means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/83">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► is he you read well Dan more'n as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/85">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► from far away on the in the eastern part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/88">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► hello from far away ru well-read i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/91">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► told that I've been read like a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/96">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► well read then yes now that is a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/100">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► definition of what it means and from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/102">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► the Great Northwest Glenn Fleischman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/104">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► joins whole England right from the echo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/107">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► travel SF Seattle yes where the Sun has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/111">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► finally come out now well had didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/113">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► happen inside let's go today and when ru [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/115">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► well-read I am obsessively well-read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/119">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► alright or excessively excessively you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/121">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► perfect i read i read way too much go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/126">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► ahead and that's true there's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/129">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► going out there to read i'm writing an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/130">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► well that explains everything I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/133">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► we all read the syfy do you read mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/135">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► a sci-fi or do you mix in other stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/139">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► with it i find myself reading a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/142">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► nonfiction lately alongside like sci-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/143">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► I haven't found it's funny it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/146">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► fiction is sort of too much for me at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/148">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► the moment but science fiction i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/151">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► read that distance a little further or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/153">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► you know interesting nonfiction that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/155">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► it's engrossing but it doesn't get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/156">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► omnivorous but i would say it's largely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/162">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► focused on the science fiction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/164">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► fantasy i read a lot of mystery to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/165">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► as much as like my mother who is like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/168">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► exclusively like mystery reader but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/169">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► read these around mystery and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/172">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► know if somebody else recommends a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/174">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► book to me i will almost certainly pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/175">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► it up but mostly sci-fi/fantasy whereby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/177">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► you got i read a lot of sci-fi fantasy i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/180">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► also read mysteries that are set in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/182">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► historical periods because I like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/185">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► read very niche books is only three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/188">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► people will read them i will be one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/192">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► about that that's a great John because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/194">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► you can actually read every single book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/195">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► is published in it it's true all five of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/197">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► them exactly so you know I irie I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/199">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► been reading a lot of books that involve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/202">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► detectives in eighteen hundreds New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/204">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► it's a good that's a good specific very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/207">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► you know linkedin time in place i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/210">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► gonna start writing books like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/213">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► because i don't have an audience now at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/214">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► least one there are four people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/216">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► would be very happy to expect as long as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/217">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► I can read on my Kindle robotic but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/219">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► a little known fact that Scott McNulty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/222">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► has the largest collection of electronic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► book readers in the world it's true and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/225">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► yet when we asked him if he had read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/228">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► city in the city which is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/230">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► books i want to talk about his comment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/231">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► oh and hasn't read it Scott you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/235">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► like 15 or creators why do you buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/237">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► something in hardcover or is that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/240">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► you just an equal-opportunity formatting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/242">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► guy i I just I just like to spend money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/244">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► so if I see something I will buy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/247">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► guys he's being a little disingenuous as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/250">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► i know for a fact that he's got a table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/252">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► that's a bit wobbly in his kitchen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/254">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► the kindle just isn't picking off of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/257">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► them was too thick and you know scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/259">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► pilgrim was too thin but the city the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/262">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► exactly have you guys all started to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/266">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► and i have on eBook readers vs vs paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/271">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► you know I i did i read a few things on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/275">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► my iPad but I got to be honest for me it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/278">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► comes out of me being cheap because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/280">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► read so many books that like if I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/282">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► to buy everything in ebook format it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/284">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► quickly becomes a very expensive hobby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/287">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► librarians I am I am mandated that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/293">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► must go to the library so i actually get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/297">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► most of my stuff in the library still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/299">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► I'm married to a librarian and I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/301">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► buy ebooks what about You Glenn this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/303">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► the same problem i had i was spending an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/305">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► enormous amount of money on books a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/306">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► children and the same amount of space in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/309">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► the house that one thing had to go and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/311">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► decided to keep the children and stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/313">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► buying books and get rid of the book so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/315">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► I you know ebooks are great but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/316">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► doing library lot and you know I'd am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/317">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► buying ebooks when I think the value is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/320">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► there when I think I'll read something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/321">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► again I got the city in the city for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/322">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► instance i got that the library love to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/325">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► pieces figured i'm going to read that at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/327">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► least one more time which i have since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/329">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► then and i bought a used copy of it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/330">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► paperback figuring that was the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/332">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► format for that particular you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/334">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► so the city in the city by and I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/338">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► to get this name wrong its it's China [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/340">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► Mieville is that right i think the evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/341">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► i think it might be a naval yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/344">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► was me evil maybe I'll take me evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/346">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► example yes it's it's ish you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/348">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► looks like that first name spelled china [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/351">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► it's an it's a my wife was like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/355">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► that's totally a girl I'm like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/356">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► really not and I showed her picture into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/358">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► no it's not if he's like he looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/359">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► it's not really bald you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/361">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► mr.clean dress kind of English and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/363">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► an Englishman to so you know that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/365">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► bawled Englishman he could tell with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/366">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► China I mean clearly clearly he's gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/368">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► top anyway sitting the city nominated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/371">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► for Hugo word for you know best sci-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/373">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► novel of the year and three of us have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/376">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► read it so Scott you might have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/379">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► the referee on this one but it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/380">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► fascinating book and I know that I Glenn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/384">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► actually prime the pump for me a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/386">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► bit with this one because he declared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/387">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► before i had started it that he wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/389">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► sure it was sci-fi or not but that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/392">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► was great and so I went in reading it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/394">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► and I read the whole thing sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/396">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► science fictional or whether it was all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/401">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► just in my head and and then it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/404">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► all be explained kind of normally so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/405">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► think the premise here is that there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/407">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► these two cities that are actually this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/409">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► sir sorry Scott that are actually the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/411">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► same city but they're consensually they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/413">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► don't see each other they try not to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/415">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► each other so they're kind of overlaid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/417">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► in terms of geography but for political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/419">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► reasons they are two separate cities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/421">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► with two separate geographies even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/423">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► though they are overlaid said or did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/425">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► know it's not like that at all Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/428">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► slightly different vibrating planes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/433">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► space yeah well it's i5n isn't it crowd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/435">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► really miss read that book then or is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/437">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► why would i would argue it's a it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/439">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► mystery in some ways to what is it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/442">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► police you know it's my I so it's I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/444">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► cedral to our central yes set in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/446">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► setting a very interesting environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/449">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► if it were only set in 1802 new york [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/450">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► already York City and New Jersey occupy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/454">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► the same point in space in that book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/458">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► well I mean I don't know the experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/460">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► I had when reading this was and I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/461">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► it awhile back so i might be a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/463">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► remember the first few pages where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/467">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► you're trying to figure out exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/469">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► what's going on in terms of this work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/472">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► because you're just kind of thrown into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/476">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► it right it doesn't actually I yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/477">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► you're right yeah and you you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/479">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► start putting it together and seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/480">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► like you you're so we're seeing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/482">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► through the the eyes of the protagonist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/483">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► who is a police inspector and he's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/487">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► accustomed to this this consensual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/491">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► agreement that we don't see the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/494">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► from the other city that as someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/497">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► tourists in this in this strange realm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/501">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► and so we're kind of challenge to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/505">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► out what's going on from the perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/508">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► of someone who is always lived there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/510">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► thus is perfectly in tune with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/512">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► provocative statement that one of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/516">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► it that the book rewires your brain as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/518">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► you read it uh-huh and what I am to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/519">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► follow up i think the best science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/522">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► fiction the best science fiction for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/524">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► that I like our books that try to rewire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/526">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► NM is one of those yes I'm extend this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/530">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► certainly is that like as i'm reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/533">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► the book and i'm getting the perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/534">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► from you I think skilled or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/536">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► like that you feel right yeah funeral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/538">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► and i'm getting his perspective in as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/540">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► my head is kind of doing this why can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/545">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► really think that way and like okay I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/547">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► almost got it and you know they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/549">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► think wait a minute can't be quite that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► way and then evil brings up something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/552">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► that's you have an objection well dogs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/554">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► can't see this pets can't see this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/557">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► in passing he'll explain how that works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/559">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► violence all the time then explains how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► there's exceptions and you're like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/566">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► who would enforce such a relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/567">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► and then oh well there's another party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/569">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► that comes out so he keeps promise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/572">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► rewriting its own ability to perceive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/575">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► this world that's being invented around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/577">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► you you know he just keeps throwing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/579">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► the explanation you almost the time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/581">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► need it for commits that kind of it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/583">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► kind of like a literary equivalent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/584">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► like an Escher painting right that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/586">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► where you're like you're staring at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/589">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► and it looks like one thing and then as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/590">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► your brain sort of adapt to the strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/593">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► it looks like it starts to look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/598">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► something else you start to get an idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/599">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► like oh this isn't all that's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/601">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► here okay yeah that staircase connects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/602">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► there but it also is like upstairs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/604">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► downstairs of all time when i read it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/606">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► second time the thing was funny as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/608">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► thought okay well the second time this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/610">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► is like whenever you read a murder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/611">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► mystery ok I know who did it so I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/612">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► that conceit here I'll read it a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/614">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► time and it will snap into a clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/616">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► relief and it did not it is still in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/618">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► fact it's even worse because I could see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/621">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► all the stuff that he hid that you only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/623">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► can pick up on subsequent readings was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/625">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► even more traces of ambiguity it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/626">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► Oh My heavens it's so unlike NM which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/628">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► sets you down in a world that is clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► not our own and with a lot of terms that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/634">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► you have to learn with the city in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/637">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► city it's plausibly our world it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/638">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► country you don't really recognize in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/641">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► Eastern Europe and you know you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/643">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► really know but then he starts dropping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/644">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► unseeing things and you're like what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/648">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► that mean and his login tactical yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/651">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► catching alter all these things yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/653">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► cross topically yeah yeah and so and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/656">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► you end up trying to decrypt all of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/659">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► and unpacking you're right it is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/661">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► I think any any good novel it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/663">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► novelist is trying to hack into your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/666">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► brain and novel is a machine that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/667">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► designed to work on your brain and work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/670">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► information that's given and this does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/673">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► that in a really interesting way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/675">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► when you get to the point awful where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/677">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► you get introduced to the concept of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/678">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► breach and what the breaches which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/680">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► essentially the police who are making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/682">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► consensual hallucination about the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/686">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► cities being separate when they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/689">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► for me that was when the thing really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/691">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► started to ramp up is that the throwing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/693">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► patroller of the of the borders and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/697">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► me that's the central question with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/700">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► city and the city about if it's science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/701">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► fictional or not is what is the breach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/703">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► and on twitter we mentioned this and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/705">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► had somebody say oh no its total breach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/707">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► is totally explainable as just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/709">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► conjunction of the two cities and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/711">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► not science fiction at all and yet when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/713">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► you read the description and maybe Glenn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/715">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► since you reread it when you read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/717">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► description of the breach and how great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/718">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► the breach appears and what they do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/720">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► how they seem to know what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/722">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► your led to believe that it's this disc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/724">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► almost supernatural kind of force and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/726">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► that's great up to the point where he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/728">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► led into the offices of the bringing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/730">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► your like drab not interesting in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/731">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► bureaucratic offices they're not magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/735">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► at all the kind of clunky and write like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/737">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► that famous arthur c clarke you know any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/740">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► sufficiently advanced technology is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/742">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► they seem magical i think from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/745">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► perspective of the people in the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/748">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► and the other city because they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/749">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► these powers or these technology that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/753">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► so far advanced that it's not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/755">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► understood but I think that you could I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/757">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► mean that's how I felt about anyways I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/758">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► really felt like these are guys who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/760">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► not necessarily magical but at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/762">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► time they are in possession of some sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► of technology that lends them a magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/766">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► yeah there's a bit of this kind of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/770">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► know its reference another Stephenson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/772">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► book of snow crash one could argue that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/773">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► it's better on the border of being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/776">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► neurological or neural programmers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/778">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► the breach operates because the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/781">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► manipulate or understand how everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/786">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► else has partition their minds and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/788">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► they can walk back and forth between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/790">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► changing their own perception this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/794">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► there's all this subtle stuff in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/796">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► book about the way someone walks the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/798">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► there's this hilarious but in which two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/802">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► are the police officer and his sergeants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/804">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► been assigned to him he takes her to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/807">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► forgot the name of the other city it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/810">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► some is al coma a yo-yo ma yeah he'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/811">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► come he goes the in so he goes to little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/815">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► ill coma in his own City which is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/817">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► immigrant district from the other city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/820">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► and his sergeant gets freaked out for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/822">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► second because she thinks she's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/824">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► supposed to see it but there are tells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/826">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► in this immigrant area where the colors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/827">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► aren't quite the same smells maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/830">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► same and you're thinking you know and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/832">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► I'm going through the same confusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/834">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► reading the book about wait a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/835">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► this violates every rule that he told me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/837">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► about but all know here's the exception [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/839">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► or when they go through a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/841">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► when you transition just when he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/843">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► gotten you comfortable with the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/844">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► city he takes you through to the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/846">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► one that you're that you're suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/848">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► suddenly he has to have to go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/855">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► classes to learn to unsee and see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/857">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► right things and then goes through this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/859">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► transition space that's the same on both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/861">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► sides and suddenly he's emerges in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/863">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► own city in the other city you basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/865">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► agreed-upon border point and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/869">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► emerge on the other side of the building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/871">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► but you're still in the same city of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/872">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► yeah it's the which is my think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/875">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► really i agree with you guys that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/876">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► you like your mind really starts racing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/878">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► to catch up right like oh my god what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/880">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► how do you go from seeing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/885">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► seeing a nun seeing these things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/886">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► you have been trained to for all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/888">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► years to totally inverting that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/890">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► think you know he does a great job of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/894">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► putting us in the shoes then of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/896">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► person who feels like sort of as out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/898">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► place as we felt coming into the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/900">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► what's your verdict is there anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/903">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► that we would call sort of traditional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/904">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► science fictional here or is there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/905">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► the kind of magic of the city in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/907">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► city just the concept is is such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/909">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► mind-blower but it's not requiring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/911">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► anything that we don't have in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/913">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► fascinating lee in this hazy border i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/917">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► think he does everything in his power it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/919">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► without working hard is the most amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/921">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► thing I have to say is that the book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/924">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► and in some ways like it's difficult or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/927">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► stressful to read but it's more like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/928">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► presents this great story and he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/930">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► keeps picking up the edge of the way in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/932">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► which you think about science fiction or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/935">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► fantasy and he's written previous things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/937">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► like pretty toes street station is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/939">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► fascinating grimy book i felt like i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/941">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► a shower 50 times were in that book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/943">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► everything is decaying and grimy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/945">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► perdido Street Station clearly is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/947">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► somewhere alien right yeah really it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/949">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► science fiction fantasy that the science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/951">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► picture that the technology has become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/953">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► so advanced it's magic or there is magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/955">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► or whatever there's clearly something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/958">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► this stops you know many many degrees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/960">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► sort of that but I you know I couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/962">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► tell you when I reread it someone on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/963">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► Twitter so to be like well it's clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/965">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► blah blah and I'm like okay you're an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/967">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► engineer first and second and another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/969">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► clear about it like you have to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/971">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► decision you can make a decision you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/973">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► start reading the book this is all in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/974">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► people's heads mrs. a political metaphor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/976">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► but there are points in the book we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/977">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► the breach officer or breach whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/980">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► maybe not under officers the breach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/982">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► person has this device that doesn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/983">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► any sense but is it just a gun and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/988">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► looks different or the breach can break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/990">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► into any web site anywhere in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/992">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► but are they just hackers or do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/994">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► have super advanced magical sci-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/996">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► technology it's just you never cross the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/998">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► book barrier he doesn't give it away at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► the NSA all and by the way it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► sides yes they're aliens low or or hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► here's your magical laser that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► I like what I've read every several of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► his other books including prettiest each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► station and the to follow ons to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► and I would just say from up from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► qualitative standpoint I mean like Glenn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► says it's a very different type of book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► i would argue that is my favorite of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► of his books that I think he does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► most fully realized job of creating a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► setting which is fascinating because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► spent so much time detailing is totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► alien settings in pretty do Street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► Station and the other books in those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► worlds and yet somehow those never came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► to life to me is so much as the city in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► the city as as alien and strange as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► is with these two cities overlying each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► I thought it was fantastic and it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► I I don't know that I would put a label [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► on it by saying that it's science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► fiction if I mean if you know very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► broadly speaking you could say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► it's one of the best things i've read of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► any genre do you want to find out by jon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► renau not defined as one of the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► things I've read in years i just i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► floored by and I can't wait to pick it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► I liked it and I i might read it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► although I have to say I actually voted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► at second of the six hugo award nominees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► it was a close one but I placed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► second to the windup girl by paulo not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► Paolo Bacigalupi i think his name is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► have any of you read the windup girl I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► have red wine of course kotse first I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► was the idea haha oh but before before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► we talk about the windup girl i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► like to read a one-star review on amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► for the city and the city i love this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► dramatic reading couldnt well if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► feeling nostalgic for the good old days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► of those happy cold war years and long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► for a divided Berlin and you might take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► heart on this novel otherwise steer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► clear of this mess where the object is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► to beat around the bush plot-wise for as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► long as possible the cool kids might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► like this writer haha but that's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► because they've been told he's cool to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► like that is from David Keith known as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► fur and tats are you mean I need I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► a stamp that's called engineer and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► stamp it on Twitter tweets and reviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► and when he called you a cool kid what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► are you talking about i'm clearly if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► we're the cool kids is clearly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► situation is totally out of whack you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► maybe he maybe he was writing for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► alternate view of the novel i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► point out one other thing about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► novel it synthesis at its china has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► predilection for this so you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► George Lucas's naming our is horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► George Lucas's worst attribute is his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► ability to assign horrible horrible name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► you don't like Elyon sleazebag oh yes or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► media clear radians and well i'll post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► post like 1983 ourselves all right all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► Skywalker great everything else Wedge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► he's great now come on so that in mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► china has a media has a pitch perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► way of creating these names even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► names that you read in the city in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► city or perdidos each station is other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► books they make your brain slide around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► like I've studied German some Eastern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► European languages and he gets a name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► that you like that sort of familiar but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1197">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► not quite it's like dancing around my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► assigning a place or a thing to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► white girl by paolo bacigalupi i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► scott this is a real kind of dystopian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► twenty-first late mid to late 21st [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► century 22nd century and sort of oil all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► the oil is running out and thereby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► everybody is like using elephants or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► like DNA reconstituted mammoths to drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► big sort of like wheels to charge up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► springs to generate energy because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► there's no energy left in there like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► gene-altered people it's definitely a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► dark dark dark book as it is very dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► there's there's a constant food shortage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► due to genetic runaway genetic a-league [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► mutated viruses and plagues so they call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► there are American companies seemingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► that stockpile genetically altered food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► stuffs that they send to other countries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► that cannot be grown so that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► can't grow their own food so that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► are dependent on these countries to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► supply food the calorie companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► exactly in the calorie men from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► calorie companies and apparently was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► simply the netherlands was destroyed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► a conflict over their seed bank ya roar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► Swift I think it's that I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► actually a certain sweden and norway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► it's where there actually is a genetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► seed bank and then they destroyed it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► a war over the trying to get the seeds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► out there is apparently a seed bank and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► in Thailand that that the calorie man is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► industrialist and there's Epsilon's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► i have to say that should be a checklist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► for every sci-fi or fantasy novel is are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► there Zeppelin's in a city setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► zeppelins check all right i mean i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► sold if there is Evelyn's and that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► you that that's why I got your vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1317">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► right that's right what's the plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► that's what pushed it over the edge for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► me is that there was your shit everytime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► air quieres ship plot points yes it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► true and I was a really good book i also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► read he wrote a young adult book called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► shipbreakers set in the same universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► which I actually thought was better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► haha but that's just because i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► low reading comprehension you're not one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► I'm not gonna cook it so I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► whatever windup girl is it is dark it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► its political it's it's a it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► ecological political message about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► you he was the logical logically what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► will happen if there is a global warming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► you know washes away I mean that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► city in in white girl is holding on by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► thread because it's got bikes everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► and when they give out it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► flood and so there's that and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► this whole idea of genetically modified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► food and so there's all this all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► kind of politics and extrapolation which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► I love in sci-fi and quite frankly i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► don't actually even care about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► politics i love the fact that it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► extrapolation of like well if if we take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► this to be true what might that mean and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► that's what I got out of the lineup girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► was this really interesting kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► mishmash of all these sort of trends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► that you could you can see today and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► and if they go to a really dark place in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► the in this case and it doesn't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► be that way but that's the direction he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► chose to go in and you know none of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► characters you can really bank on 44 to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► survive the book which i think i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► and in fact you think you've got kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► a rotation of viewpoint characters going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► in and all of a sudden I'm one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► isn't there anymore and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► replacement viewpoint caring like else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► holy endeavor that's fascinating ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► heard of that as a mechanism where like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► you have a new person that the new point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► yeah well give you so much without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► giving too much away I it's enjoyable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► that you've got one of these viewpoint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► characters who who like get pushed off a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► building and and his deputy is now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► Cuban character because he's gone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► although his ghost his ghost speaks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► her whether she's real or imagined that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1437">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► we don't know it's a real ghost or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► certain and as i was reading that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► like he's not gonna kill this character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► and he can possibly kill the sketch yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► i think this is a cyclic convention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► thing to talk about too is that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► are novels know like a novel in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► the character is an adolescent at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► beginning and end is called juvenile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► right isn't that like any genre is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► the case even if its adult novel to gym [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► it's a juvenile right so there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► this thing like this is all to all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► characters are most of them died at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► end of the novel or before the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► novel then there's a real pre-election [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► sci-fi to kill everybody i read a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► the day was so depressing I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► remember the title i'll never read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► anything by that i mean by that author [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► again because everybody dies like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► literally everybody dies at the end I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► like what in God's name is another it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► could have been the windup girl action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► not everybody not everybody dies in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► line of girls just you know we let me be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► doing that though is george RR martin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► because he's really quickly like still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► off viewpoint characters like he gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► them into situations where it's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► know if you've read any sort of you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► know familiar with any sort of drama [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► like all it's the impossible situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► how are they going to get out of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► and then they don't they yeah and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► and so I saw someone asked him about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► that one said I convention and he's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► yeah i like to keep people on their toes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► yeah i just i just finished the third of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► those of those song of ice and fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► books and in the middle of it to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► even at the end in the middle of it one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► of these two of these characters that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► that I expected would survive certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► one of them who had been a viewpoint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► beginning and don't know they're both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► dead in about four pages homeland just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► dead and you like steak he likes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► killed while that said that said nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► you know it's fantasy it's like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► fantasy and scifi and comic books right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► nothing's ever forever yes well I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► don't last and then you get to the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► of that book and you find that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► true but at the same time I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► know there is something to be said for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► that you know reality aspect of getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► characters into situations where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► not like a ridiculous escapade where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► they escaped but in fact you know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► are casualties right i mean i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► that's a certain type of writing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► you've got to be sort of sign up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► that when you go into it but I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► think it's a I sort of relish that not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► because i like the killing characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► off but like because it gives you real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► fear right for all the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► the characters you really come to care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► about because you're like oh my god you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► you know it makes you very invested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► in the whole storyline is going on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► and i think that there's something to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► Glenn one another another novel that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► mentioned that you read recently and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► we're raving about is for the win by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► cory doctorow yeah and I i would I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► interested in hearing what you thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► about that i read little brother and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► while I admired the sort of technique [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► that he used and some of the plot points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► i actually despise the book because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► thought it was such a just ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► lecture that it was like a download of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► manifesto in novel form in it really got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► on my bad side so it's for the win gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► make me hate cory doctorow more or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► well I didn't read little brother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► because i have a feeling it was a plum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► akin novel form ya young adult novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► perform so that so that teenagers will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► find out why how important it is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► compile your own I was entirely agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► with Jason but I mean that said hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► I mean I liked the book III mean it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► yeah i mean i-i know you know that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► right because you know Corey's politics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► going into it and he's not one to ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► hold back from that kind of thing I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► a hard a hard SF story he had to hugo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► nominees last year one was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► brother and was this hard SF story that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► he wrote that was great it was so great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► and I think in the end I realized it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► because if it was political it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► political in that sort of polemic you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► know lecturing kind of feeling that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► got from what if you ever go read down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► and out in the magic kingdom yes also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► right which is also very good and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► also shied away from that his sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► political leanings but I mean I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► he's a talented writer and he's a is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► mark I and you know I i know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► there's a lot of you know his work is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► also very very divisive in that regard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► because of the politics i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► he's an extremist and I generally yes i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► agree with sort of what he's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► but not to the extreme that he takes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► right I don't mind having political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► statement obviously the windup girl is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► deeply political book as a sci-fi novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► it's incredibly political but I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► mind it because it was about it was all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► kind of infused in a setting where as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► little brother was just their whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► chapters that were like he well he took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► his xbox and he used the open-source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► create the encrypted network so that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► she's like oh my god it's it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► it's just all artifice the final are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► there at all sounds like Atlas Shrugged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1737">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► only completely different with Atlas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► well I you know having that little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► brother I can address that although you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► know core is an extremist and he's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► he's unapologetically you know in favor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► of certain things regardless of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► consequences but I i think for the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► say for the win for the win because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► is much more like down out the magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► kingdom and it's got it you know first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► off its a rollicking good story like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► it's it's a story that spools itself out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► in a really interesting way taking place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► across I don't know four continents all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► the protagonist just about our teenagers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► are a few adults involved and it is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► understands quite well and he clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► saw expert help to tell the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► correctly in places he didn't know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► there's a lot of stuff about multiplayer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► worldwide multiplayer games games that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► he's invented for the book but that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► a close resemblance to games out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► is it said sort of in a game world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► in the real world or is it both or one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► description of a about well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► action is based on a story he wrote i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► blanking on the name of a little Anya or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► something it's a short story where he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► changed he's kept some of the things the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► same it's it's mostly outside the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► world there's not much of a sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► being in the game world all the time the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► organizing and you know that sounds very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► polemical no but I know this is what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► funny is i mean the book and the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► starts with like these great narrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► elements he's i interviewed Corey a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► weeks ago for an article I'm writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► about crowdfunding I said Korea just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► read for the win and I'm unclear when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► you actually transform yourself into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► 70 year old indian girl at what point in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► your life did that occur because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► writes from the perspective of chinese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► american indian and even like other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► cultural you any rights in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► feels like it has a great degree of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► verisimilitude it's not like what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► think their lives are like it's much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► more what from my reading at least their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► lives are actually like he doesn't hide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► the grid the danger the TDM and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► but it's still a very good strong story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► this is gonna sound ridiculous in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► middle of this he explains how things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► like credit default swaps work and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► know that sounds pretty boring and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► political and it is not it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► entertaining because he's weaving this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► story about this sort of rise of a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► working class and that suppressed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► he's telling it to the voices of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► these very very interesting people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► events that were familiar with you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► uprisings put down in china and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► shifting of labor and gold farming you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► know if you know if you follow this at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► thousands millions of people worldwide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► whose entire occupation in very poor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► conditions is to go into these massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► multiplayer online games and too tedious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► tasks to make gold that is sold in game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► the players for real money through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► various means and some games tolerated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► but there are ways around it and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► that's the core is this like real world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► situation that sounds ridiculous but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► there are millions and millions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► people but i believe think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► profession you know they're working in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► sweatshops 12 hours a day or whatever to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► farming game and so it would be science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► yeah I i mean is that sounds like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► science fictional premise and yet it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► it's true there it's the arbitrage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► the developed world versus developing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► world is that there's and the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► leverages the ability for the developing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► world to use it's incredibly cheap labor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► to produce the results that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► unbelievably marginal in the developed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► world like I'm not going to put 12 hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► in for the equivalent of one dollar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► to make you know to be paid that and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► make ten dollars for my employers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► that's possible in china and india and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► some other places so you know I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► the story is very enjoyable that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► know i'll tell you the brief narrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► without giving anything away is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► it's basically gamers all over the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► some of them gold farmers some of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► more interested in the gameplay wind up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► feeling like compressed and betrayed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► as if they could have a voice and don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► and they develop essentially a worldwide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► workers network that allows them to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► to push for like unionization and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► things again the sound stuff polemical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1977">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► but it's a really fun story it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► get overwrought any mixes in economic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► education in a way that is totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► natural because he's trying to explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► to both me as someone who's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► technical person but not a gamer and two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► other people who are not involved in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► world always try to explain how the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► economy works in terms of the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► autonomy as opposed to the real economy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► wow you did Glenn you're going to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► me read more current cory doctorow I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► gonna curse you for that it's very fun i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► got through the book I was reading it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► like it was on fire because it's just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► is a rollicking good read and you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► afterward with is reading like it's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► fire the opposite of what I couldn't put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► it down because it's like it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► where the same thing you'd be an audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► making up the road across or down that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► is i just got a really fast i think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► way as if the pages were burning away as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► i read them i was reading so fast there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► is a market that Corey would probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► well he'd argue that any book with DRM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► is essentially a Burn After Reading well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2037">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► yes that old dude is the old yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► consumers really wanted to kiss i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► that Corey talks the talk but he also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► walks the walk down the magic kingdom i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► actually had sitting on my kindle for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► while now because he just makes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► available as a free download in its it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► because it's a very good book i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► read a paper copy of it so I didn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► know paper and flames as i as i read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► but it's got some really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► ideas in it and uh it's just it's set in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► disney world and it's just it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► crazy and and fun and I i think that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► far as the favorite my favorite of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► things that he's written not little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► brother little brother I like little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► brother but I mean I you know at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► same time you know what I'm saying about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► no I I totally get that I mean like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► don't I don't that's not necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► something that I'm cognizant of because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► you know I knew going like I said I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► going in this is corey you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► gonna take it with a grain of salt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► you know for his political stuff but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► interesting and I think the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► are cool and you know there is a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► you know it is kind of your typical like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► I what I like about it is that it's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► it's like your typical movie where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► on the run from you know the man and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► only it's you know it's like a teenager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► you know instead of you know it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► in addition to what will assign some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► reading but we'll do that offline that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► love it if we could like all agree at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► some point to read something soon and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► and discuss it that kinect kinect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► establishing a format sure there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► I was gonna say yes and I know Glenn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► already brought up for the wind but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► perhaps you know the rest of us on here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► might suggest a book that's a good idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► I was going to start with what are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► reading and then perhaps we can suggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► a book after that absolutely you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► you're the boss so now i'm really not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► i'm really really are my behind me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► I'm the agitator in on this podcast I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► not the boss now do what I say and tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► me what are you what are you reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► Glen are you reading something right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► I well I just finished recently a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► recommended for Cory but it down you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► supposed to be on a podcast why are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► reading random violence offenses book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► burning he has to reduce supporters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► don't burn themselves glad the is a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► suggested by cory doctorow on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► bling-bling blog and i immediately got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► library surprisingly and bitter seeds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► and the the synopsis i just read it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► think officially a couple weeks ago and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► it's not see Superman who are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► Superman and super powerful beings that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► are evil that are sort of helping us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► so it's it's entertaining but a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► crazy and it gets crazier as a novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► I'd say ultimately disappointing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► very interesting and well-written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► fascinating and sort of becomes more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► wow I haven't even heard of that who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► the author its role model fumble it is i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► have read something by on his sucks he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► let me consult the entire really from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► its he's into the city in the city i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► think it's written by google still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2216">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► alright who i believe is written a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► previous books i think this has gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► more play in some of his earlier novels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► everyone wants to believe that the Nazis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► had actual Superman not just big brawny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► blonde people so I want to believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► yes we all we all want not Superman but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► he's actually done something about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► but what if there were with Dan what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► I'm currently reading I set aside i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► a part of the way through a nonfiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► book Michael Lewis is the big short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► which is very good outside the realm of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► yes and I said it aside to read uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► because I got out the library so i only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► have a week to read it which is likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► and live like it's like it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► on fire Shane library man called tongues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► of serpents which is the sixth book in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► series by a woman named Naomi Novik [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► which basically is predicated on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► premise of its the Napoleonic Wars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► ships are fighting oh there's these huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► naval battles but they're also dragons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2277">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► I've been addicted to this series to i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► picked up the first 1i think it was free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► as a kindle book from amazon right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► understands what they do is the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► first book is free and you're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► publishers have realized that if I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► get you hooked on a free book 1 then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► I really wanted first posterous to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► and I read it and I'm like this is darn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► good that makes me actually over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► could be dragons turn the polyamine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► because basically the way that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► organize it is it the dragons are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► basically they've always been dragons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► dragons are basically used as like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► aerial core like the like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► world war one dog fights except they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► on dragons instead of in planes but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► sector employees or so if you want like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► it's like Dragon dogfight it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► like Horatio Hornblower streets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► McCaffrey wow oh my god that is Ananda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► poliana quartz which means Scoville like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► it because its historical exactly i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► actually I well i bought the first three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► of those in paperback and I haven't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► that yeah well she came out this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► kind of weird because the first we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► paperbacks all the same time because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► guess she told she had written the three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► of them like a whore and she's now up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► the sixth one I I have to say I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► she gets interesting threads as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► series goes on because i think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► dragons in this world are all like not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► just you know ascension but like pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► Darren intelligent like they can all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► they're all got like facilities for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► languages and and stuff like that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► that their becomes a very interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► issue of do they have rights you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► what is the sort of you know how should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► they be treated to be treated like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► animals should be treated like people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► and it does it was kind of cool schools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► that she totally spans the globe with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► the adventures that they start you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► in sort of England napoleonic wars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► then they span out to Africa and China [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► australia and she's got a great year for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► the dialogue and settings are fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► i do think that her plots have started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► to lose a little bit of thread and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► think she said there's a she has ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► for a couple more books but I hoping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► that you sort of wrap this up and moves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► on to something else because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► Napoleonic Wars for long enough haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► and Scott got whatever what are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► I will speak i'm not reading this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► currently but it involves dragon so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► will mention it very briefly I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► magazine the the adamantine palace was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► really good book about a it's a fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► book and it's basically these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► kind of enslaved the dragons and drug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► them up so that they are docile and no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► longer control themselves and can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► written and it follows the path of one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► dragon who kind of gets free of this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► regains its intelligence so check that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► out but I'm reading right now a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► the dream of perpetual motion and is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► narrator is imprisoned in a Zeppelin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► hovering above the city sorry react so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► you're just making this up right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► I have not and the the Zeppelin is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► powered by a perpetual motion machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► I and he describes that's how it starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► and then he describes how he got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► where he is and it's very interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► steampunky if anyone likes steampunk ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► yes and we should talk to me on perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► Boneshaker which I know Scott you and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► have read that is steampunky as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► that has plus zombie I was gonna say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► yes zombie + Zeppelin equals yeah for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► somebody to do a steampunky Brewster and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► Brewster's Millions actually that best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► crossover ever if I i'm sort of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► genre thing is certain you know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► I had a interregnum I think I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► read sci-fi much for years re relatives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► some classics in the last several years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► I've started quite a bit of it again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► it is like all these new genres like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► steampunk was and they're sort of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► know sort of cyberpunk and there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► Bruce Sterling was running steampunk in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2517">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► in but like that the difference engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► but like steampunk is like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► totally ochre all and then there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► new weird which meal falls into but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► there's a ton of other authors writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► that then there's like the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► revenge of the Golden Age kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► things that are like super hard science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► or super non hard science so it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► like there's a like this flux must be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► more readers demanding more different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► kinds of things for these explosion of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► new genres but you know we'll always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► have Zeppelin's and revisionist world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► war two Nazi fantasy so what will always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► have Zeppelin's is definitely the name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► of this episode was a Jason Jason let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► turn it back to you what are you reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► oh yes so i just finished that third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► book in the george RR martin sequence so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► i have a feast for crows next but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► know how / in ratchet resent that ladies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► given how slow he isn't writing those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► and then it'll probably be another year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► before the next one is out i'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► looking to let it sit there until I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► handle it but we need a podcast about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2578">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► how fantasy writers take forever between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► actually speaking of dragons i'm reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► at long last after putting it off for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► like a year i'm finally reading the girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► with the dragon tattoo by stieg larsson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► which is not a genre black just read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► that not long i just i just read it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► well maybe we should talk to maybe we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► talk about in our international I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► the key mystery podcast that's real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► mystery and and it's got some finance in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► their writing some journalism in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► and all anyway I'm finally going to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► that I just started reading that and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► also in the middle of science book from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► eternity to here by sean carroll which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► is about time and how we define time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► and trying to figure out why the arrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► of time points forward why did things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► happen in one direction and not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► I hear it's the fire in which we burn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► yes yes I was gonna say ty it's also an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► episode time's arrow also an episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► Star Trek The Next Generation we did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► is Morris Wayne buried in san francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► where I'm speaking to you data's head is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2636">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► what is it reading right now poor brent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► Spiner will always has a plan so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► what i'm reading so what should we read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► next I actually think that dead Glennon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► and dan you re Boneshaker yeah I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► that's right shows the Sun and it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► I like a zombies zombies it's set in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► Pacific Northwest it's set in seattle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► alternate history LKC ok let's check the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► box its tendency I don't need weed on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► the website that lists yeah alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► history civil war-era alternate history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► with historical but it's all historical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► and they think they may mention New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► so it's okay for me that reminds me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► mean yeah at some point in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► episode i would love if anybody else has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► read Michael ship on the Yiddish police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► oh yeah that's another great but that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► are really interesting that we seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► worth talking about a we're going to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► another list that everything is my it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► science fiction inside ristic science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► fiction subcategory it's all history so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► it has to be it is all tests yes that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► don't throw that up it really isn't and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► Scott you read that too i have read that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► alright so weak that one is like being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► that we should have done that today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► because we have a moment we've all had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► let's go back and our little yeah we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► just record another day i'm hoping that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► this podcast will have more episodes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► we'll be able once a month or so to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► about about books so what should we read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► next other than boneshakers anything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► guys want to throw out there that we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► ordered or the listener should should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► recommending to a lot of people in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► indeed record dateline what no what no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► we're now it's a book called the gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► away world by Nick harkway who's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► british writer who I actually had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► couple exchanged with on Twitter he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► very nice guy he's also the son of john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► the car a so if you like your new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► thrillers he's he's got a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► post-apocalyptic novel that's very I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► don't know how to describe it other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► to say that it's unique I mean what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► other book the heavy run into that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2754">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► post-apocalyptic world it'sit's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► comedic at times zeppelins there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► there's a massive sort of driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► monstrosity machine but i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► there's necessarily exist because a ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► anyways arm it's it's one of those books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► that is it is is hard to put down once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► you sort of start to get into it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► really it's just it's unlike so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► other stuff that i have that i have read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► and it was I think I read it last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► and it was one of my favorite books of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► last year and I think it's how comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► highly recommended i don't think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► it's it's flown on under a lot of radars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► but i would i would definitely recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► I'm not slide is your grade are at my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► library will have a copy for me waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► for a World so what should we read next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► got RR is everyone here fans of jasper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► fforde yes I don't know who that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► oh well what this podcast is over yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► i'm out of not just for Ford row in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► case yes oh just performed here she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► great for yet for that my rights for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► that author it is a non character who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► was a man he he's probably most famous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► for his Thursday Next books in which the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► main character thursday next is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► detective that has to maintain the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► plotlines of books so they jump into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► books and make sure everything's alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► as a literary did a literary detectors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► f1's there are well the book i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► recommending is his latest shades of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► grey which includes no Zeppelin sadly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► but on it is a good book and it but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► only downside is it is the first book in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► the trilogy which I did not realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► until I finished it so i wasn't quite as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► you turned out he not so finished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► yeah likes like Scott I read it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► ends on a bit of a cliffhanger but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► alright is good that's good I i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► never heard of of that person and i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► look that up that's great so it's set in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► the world that is kinda for devoid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► color and people are ranked by what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► colors they can perceive and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► company that supplies artificial color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► so check that wow when what what should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► this is gets little off track but I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► been reading fables comic book series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► but its Kiki and sort of science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► and fantasy I guess we may have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► invite you into the comic book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► segment of this popular which which we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► I can't tell whether like variables or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► its stupid it there but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► moments of real brilliance and sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► this in some marvelous art it but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► storyline is you know you watched like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► ugh like the Simpsons at one point was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► fantastic and they could have an ABC and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► D stories going on at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► without losing track of them and fables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► kind of all a story and sometimes the a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► alright and that's what we should read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► next you're not really text did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► here's the thing is like you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► punish us that it's three the superhero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► what we do to you go Angie this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► decide yourself it's been collected into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► giant volumes like all graphic novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► comic books are these days so I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► want to breeding most of it i've read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► some current issues but I've read most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► of it through giant library issued [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► library balance back copies and sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► interesting idea that what if all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► tables have been told are actually real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► places in an alternate universe there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► are don't recall Zeppelin's but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► are dragon there's no Zeppelin's but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► dragons that's good that's all that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► like nature's trick nature Zeppelin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► because I dragon it's got the hot air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► and fly nature's nature's nature's i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► going to say if you haven't read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► yet it's been out for a few years now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► the sequel actually just came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► oryx and crake by margaret atwood 0 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► which is a post-apocalyptic Margaret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► it's actually a part of it is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► during apocalyptic pre and-and-and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► it's actually two parallel stories with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► one character in common and it's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► them is post-apocalypse and one is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► events that lead up to the apocalypse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► and the last chapters are take place in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► the same location at the moment where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► the apocalypse is happening and at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► kind of climax of the book after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► apocalypse is is over and done with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► which is it's really well done kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► and B story where you're flashing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► backward and forward with this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► character really imaginative and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► world that sort of comes out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► apocalypse is is well created as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► and now there's a sequel to it or let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► ask is the is the apocalypse caused by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► Zeppelin's there are sadly no Zeppelin's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► either before or after the apocalypse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► although i think after they love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► Zeppelin that 1x no Zeppelin's operates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► out that I didn't know it was what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► should we read next with the Zeppelin's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► I could have come up with something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► boneshaker Boneshaker back to Boneshaker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► again there are Zeppelin's in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► all history and I think that's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► have to be one of the things on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► reading list comes true could hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► seattle's zombie Zeppelin it's a quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► read to its not it is not heavy stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► requested it shoots through the progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► bar on your ebook reader it's true king [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► depressing than downloading a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► especially if you've written a novel as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► some of us have to to download it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► see how quickly download because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► nothing to this text files just like zip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► and it's there that it's great if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► a reader it's like overlook the books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► already downloaded if you're right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► like really all that work I put into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► and it takes two seconds to download it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► so sometimes i buy them and just delete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► them because it takes so little time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► that just it pains me right in my right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► my chest I print them out and then some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► of them taken from different from atop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► my housing causing the apart from atop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► my Zeppelin and then I throw them off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► and they they flooded the ground while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► on fire police fire a delight to pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► fireworks display all the burning books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► is generally not it's from the plots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► let's not even books burn themselves it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► self-immolating and I on that note I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► think that we can call call this a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► success we we mentioned many books prove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► that we aren't illiterate and we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► a big to-do list involving Zeppelin's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► for the future proof that were not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► illiterate okay i'll mail you something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► to read out loud next time to prove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► you're not a little if you have a kid if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► you have a kindle you can be illiterate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► you can read to you can read to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► that's true in a nice soothing robotic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► voice lower back where we started and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► is monotonous well thank you to glen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► to Dan and two Scott and Jason and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► are the the geeky book club participants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► for today and to you listeners out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZ-cEeU/3151">TS</a>]