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0:00:05From Reel FM, this is Connected, episode 414.
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0:00:18And this is a very special episode
0:00:20because we're recording this on Apple Event Day
0:00:23right after a keynote.
0:00:24And we're going to judge some Reekies here.
0:00:26[BELL RINGING]
0:00:27one of your co-hosts from Italy,
0:00:29where it's 40 minutes past midnight.
0:00:32- Woo! - I'm Federico,
0:00:33and I'm joined by Mr. Steven Hackett.
0:00:36Hello, Steven.
0:00:37- Hello, Federico.
0:00:38I've looked forward to this all day.
0:00:41During keynote days, we're all really busy, right?
0:00:44Like, we all have shows to do,
0:00:46you have Mac stories to run,
0:00:48I'm trying to do some blogging.
0:00:50We don't talk to each other very much
0:00:51during the event or after the event,
0:00:52'cause we're off working on our own things.
0:00:54And so none of the three of us know what we think about these things.
0:00:57So I've been looking forward to this all afternoon.
0:00:59Yeah. I think typically I haven't introduced you yet.
0:01:03Who are you? Who are you?
0:01:05Well, for so long, you basically got into topic four by the time you've done your intro.
0:01:09What do you want from me?
0:01:10You wait in the queue and then you get introduced and then you can speak.
0:01:14We are also joined by Myke Hurley.
0:01:17I don't even want to be here anymore.
0:01:19Come on, Myke.
0:01:20I'm getting excited.
0:01:21You know, I'm tired.
0:01:24What I was gonna say is I think typically, you know, during like a friend that we chat, right?
0:01:29We chat all the time.
0:01:29During the events, there is like a scale of who is the most talkative between our usual group chat,
0:01:36which is us three and the OTJ, where I feel like you and Jon are the most chatty.
0:01:42And then I say the occasional thing and we get like one text message from Federico for the entire hour and a half.
0:01:47Yeah.
0:01:48He's like, cool.
0:01:51It usually just says iPhone and that's it and then he's done.
0:01:56So yeah, he's right.
0:01:57I know a little bit about what Stephen thinks, I know nothing about what Federico thinks.
0:02:03Okay, okay.
0:02:04Great.
0:02:05Yeah, and the September event is really the bad one for me in that regard because that's
0:02:10when I'm panicking/confirming that I'm good to go with iOS and making some small adjustments
0:02:19to the review, which we can talk about later. But yeah, the September one is bad for me
0:02:25and I guess the October one is also going to be bad because now they split the releases.
0:02:29So yeah, I'm going to be more chatty in the spring event, I guess.
0:02:34We'll look forward to the spring event then.
0:02:36Me too. So let's talk about that. What is your plan for your iOS 16 review?
0:02:41Yeah. So as I officially announced today, look at me, it spins to my Twitter profile.
0:02:48That must mean it's real, you know. It's serious when that happens.
0:02:52Yeah, there's no bots on Twitter.
0:02:54There's no... I'm not one of them. I can tell you I'm not a bot. This podcast is not being
0:03:00recorded by an AI. The iOS 16 review will come out on Monday, so day one of iOS 16 launch
0:03:07day. It's... Well, as I say, it's ready. It's good to go. I'm still doing the final tweaks,
0:03:15final edits. But yeah, it's gonna be ready by Monday. There will be a bunch of perks for
0:03:21AppSource listeners, for club members especially. There's gonna be an ebook version, there's gonna
0:03:26be some shortcuts. It's gonna have a different style than usual, both spiritually, stylistically,
0:03:36both in the text and visually speaking. Some changes this year, all around the review.
0:03:44And I mean, there's only one person so far who's read the entire thing.
0:03:48Obviously, it's the one true John.
0:03:49One true proof reader.
0:03:50One true reader. I'm really happy with it.
0:03:53I was very concerned today that I was going to have to make big changes
0:03:56to accommodate for some of the features of the 14 Pro.
0:03:59They turn out to be smaller changes to some things that I've written.
0:04:04It's got this central theme that I talk about in the intro and in the conclusion.
0:04:09I think people are going to like it.
0:04:10And I can tell you, it's for the first time in forever?
0:04:15I'm pretty sure it's below 30,000 words.
0:04:2020... 28? 29?
0:04:22Yes!
0:04:22But yeah.
0:04:23I'm gonna read it all.
0:04:24[Laughter]
0:04:25It's finally something you can read.
0:04:26I don't have to skip. There's always like one chapter I usually skip.
0:04:29I don't remember what chapter it is now.
0:04:30I promise. I promise you. There's no boring chapter.
0:04:34There's no chapter that is too technical for you.
0:04:37[Laughter]
0:04:38Everything is up to my standards of enjoyment and engagement.
0:04:43Yes.
0:04:45I have two questions about the image that you tweeted.
0:04:48One, why is the review on your personal calendar
0:04:53at 4.23 PM?
0:04:57Shouldn't it be on a work calendar at a regular time?
0:05:02First of all, I don't have a work calendar.
0:05:04My personal calendar is my, I have a family calendar
0:05:07And I have a podcasts calendar.
0:05:09Everything else that is not like things with Sylvia
0:05:12or things for the podcasts, everything is blended together.
0:05:15Like in this calendar, I put both like this kind of stuff,
0:05:19but also like buy tickets for concert.
0:05:21Like I don't have, everything is mixing together.
0:05:25For the time, I wanna, first of all,
0:05:30you should know that 23 is my Latin number.
0:05:33- I know that, yes.
0:05:34- 'Cause you're Michael Jordan.
0:05:37For a bunch of reasons, one of them being that I'm Michael Jordan, sure.
0:05:40[laughter]
0:05:44There's...
0:05:47There's many reasons, but it's actually a thing that I've been doing for quite some time.
0:05:54If you look at last year's teaser, you will see that I used the exact same time, 4.23 PM.
0:06:01Oh, wow.
0:06:02Yeah.
0:06:04And this year, of course, I've done the 4/23 again,
0:06:08because usually that's about the time
0:06:09when I like to publish the reviews,
0:06:11like my afternoon to give people a few hours to read it.
0:06:15But I figured 4/30--
0:06:16- And to make sure that the CDNs have propagated.
0:06:18- Exactly, 4/30 is boring, 4/23 has my lucky number in it.
0:06:22Also 23, excellent song by Jimmy Eat World.
0:06:26- That's true.
0:06:29- It's a recurring number in my life, so.
0:06:31- Okay.
0:06:32Second thing is it's not really a question as so much. I want to repeat the joke
0:06:37I did over I message but you're playing the foundations of K of decay by my chemical romance great choice
0:06:42Yes, thank you, but I think you should have saved that for the stage manager part of your iPad review
0:06:47Should that be the vibe of the iPad OS review
0:06:53Everything is in shambles like post post
0:06:58Otherwise, if you spend any time on Apple Twitter, right, there's enough time for them
0:07:03to fix it.
0:07:04That's what I keep seeing everyone saying, they're going to fix it.
0:07:06So I wouldn't count it out just yet.
0:07:09Everyone's like, it's going to be fixed.
0:07:11That's why they delayed it.
0:07:12It's going to be fixed.
0:07:13So you know, it could be fixed.
0:07:15You know, I haven't written anything about iPadOS.
0:07:22Like zero words so far.
0:07:25I have at this moment, as I'm finishing the iOS 16 review, and very likely I will have
0:07:32to get to work on Tuesday immediately, I have no idea what I'm going to do.
0:07:39For the first time in a while, I have no idea what I'm going to do about the biggest feature
0:07:47of iPadOS, the new multitasking, I have zero clue as to what I'm going to do.
0:07:53So that's gonna be fun because usually I live with the thing, you know, like with the changes
0:08:03to iPadOS.
0:08:04I use them, I live with them, and I can form an opinion.
0:08:09But the problem is the thing is so broken that it's impossible for me to live with it.
0:08:15So yeah, I don't know what I'm gonna do there.
0:08:19We'll see.
0:08:21But I do like the idea of that kind of vibe for iPadOS that's even suggested.
0:08:28So maybe more my chemical romance, more emo vibe, very dark style.
0:08:33Hmm, I need to think about that.
0:08:36Did you see that iOS 15.7 beta 1 became available today?
0:08:41I saw that.
0:08:42I'm not sure what's new in it.
0:08:44Why are they still...
0:08:46What is going on?
0:08:47Maybe it's like AirPods?
0:08:50Maybe.
0:08:51The new watches or like something, but that was just very funny to me.
0:08:55It's like, oh, still going, huh?
0:08:57Okay.
0:08:58Yeah, it's still on.
0:08:59I mean, maybe setting up an Apple watch if you don't want to get 16 like say if you haven't
0:09:06well doesn't know what was nine.
0:09:08Okay.
0:09:09So maybe you have an iPhone seven.
0:09:13You can put 15.7 on it and set up an Apple watch.
0:09:18I don't know.
0:09:19I wrote a haiku for you to review Stage Manager.
0:09:24- Oh, I swear he's been so quiet over there.
0:09:26- Okay, give me that, give me that.
0:09:28All right.
0:09:29- O Stage Manager are so broken inside.
0:09:32Oh no, I messed this up.
0:09:34- Wait, was that the end?
0:09:34Oh no, I messed this.
0:09:36No, that was six syllables.
0:09:37You messed up that last line.
0:09:38- No, yeah, I have six syllables.
0:09:40My last line is a fix is in the cards,
0:09:42but that's six syllables.
0:09:43- Why don't you say like a fix is,
0:09:46A fix is in cards.
0:09:49There you go.
0:09:50- Fix is.
0:09:50- You're like the worst poet ever.
0:09:52That's why.
0:09:53- Isn't Art Haikus like your whole thing?
0:09:56- Five, seven, five.
0:09:57Yeah, but you know, it's late, 6 p.m.
0:10:00- It's not that late, don't even.
0:10:02- Let's move on.
0:10:03Big news, this is September.
0:10:06September is Childhood Cancer Awareness Month
0:10:08and for the fourth year running,
0:10:11those of us at Relay FM and you, our audience,
0:10:14or working together to raise money
0:10:16for St. Jude Children's Research Hospital.
0:10:19I wanna tell you a little bit about St. Jude.
0:10:21It was started 60 years ago.
0:10:24That's even older than me,
0:10:26if you can believe it, by a couple of years.
0:10:29In those 60 years, they have grown in size and capability
0:10:33because they believe that children all over the world
0:10:36deserve the same chance at survival.
0:10:39And that's, I mean, think back 60 years,
0:10:41the world was a different place, right?
0:10:44Cancer was really, really bad 60 years ago,
0:10:48but because of St. Jude's work,
0:10:50they have brought the survival rate for childhood cancer
0:10:53from 20% up to 80%.
0:10:56However, cancer still kills more children
0:10:58under the age of 14 than any other disease.
0:11:03That's really scary.
0:11:05But progress is being made.
0:11:07It's carried out by researchers
0:11:09who are among the world's most highly cited scientists.
0:11:13That research is then shared with the world
0:11:15to help doctors and patients elsewhere.
0:11:17In fact, St. Jude is, as of March 2018,
0:11:21the first and only world health organization
0:11:24collaborating center for childhood cancer.
0:11:27They have this big goal to raise this arrival rate
0:11:29of six common childhood cancers to 60% worldwide by 2030.
0:11:34So how do we get there?
0:11:35We get there through all of us coming together
0:11:38and supporting this work.
0:11:40So you wanna go to stju.org/relay there,
0:11:43you can donate.
0:11:44Donors who make an individual gift of $60 or more
0:11:48will get a digital bundle that includes some wallpapers
0:11:51and this wild Mac OS screensaver
0:11:53made by our friend James Thompson.
0:11:55And if you make an individual gift of $100 or more,
0:11:59you also get a set of stickers
0:12:01on top of that digital bundle.
0:12:03But if you wanna fundraise yourself,
0:12:04if you wanna go out and raise money in your network,
0:12:06in your circles,
0:12:07and we have over 100 people already doing this,
0:12:10which is really awesome.
0:12:11You get some really cool merchandise
0:12:14for the amount of money you raise.
0:12:16If you raise $250 or more,
0:12:18you will receive what my show notes call a unique desk mat.
0:12:23This thing has the cartoon faces of Myke and I all over it,
0:12:26kind of a reinvented look of his desk.
0:12:28But unlike his desk, you can undo it easily.
0:12:30You can just take the desk mat away
0:12:31when you're tired of looking at us.
0:12:32But the thing is amazing, I've got one here.
0:12:34But if you'd raised just $1 or more,
0:12:37you'll receive an exclusive St. Jude limited edition
0:12:41of the Relay FM Challenge coin.
0:12:43Guess what I'm holding?
0:12:45Someone guess.
0:12:46- Do you have it?
0:12:47- I got it an hour ago.
0:12:50(knocking)
0:12:51- Oh, it's nice to know.
0:12:52- Okay.
0:12:53- Is it good?
0:12:54Do you like it?
0:12:54- It's really good.
0:12:55So on one side, it has Relay artwork,
0:12:57the other side, it has St. Jude artwork.
0:12:59And if you fundraise and raise a dollar or more,
0:13:03you will get one of these coins.
0:13:04All this stuff goes out after the end of the campaign,
0:13:07but super excited to get it in your hands.
0:13:09You may be wondering, Steven,
0:13:11I got an Apple watch to buy.
0:13:12I got iPhones to buy.
0:13:13I don't live in Memphis.
0:13:15I don't even live in the United States.
0:13:16Why would I care about this?
0:13:17Well, go back to what I said a second ago.
0:13:19St. Jude's work impacts the lives of kids with cancer
0:13:22and their families from all around the world.
0:13:24They treat patients from all over the world.
0:13:26They come here for the best treatment on earth.
0:13:28And if they can't make it here or they have local resources,
0:13:32St. Jude is helping there as well.
0:13:34It's really, really cool.
0:13:35St. Jude helped to bring kids suffering from cancer
0:13:40from Ukraine over to Memphis
0:13:42to help them continue their treatment.
0:13:44- Isn't that amazing?
0:13:45- When the war broke out.
0:13:46- Absolutely amazing.
0:13:47And I've gotten to meet a bunch of these families
0:13:49over the years and they're all amazing people.
0:13:52The kids are all really special.
0:13:54I wanna tell you a story real quick.
0:13:57My oldest son was diagnosed with a brain tumor
0:13:59when he was six months old.
0:14:00And we spent about two years in treatment
0:14:02with chemotherapy and surgeries and all sorts of stuff.
0:14:05And there was one night, it was pretty late,
0:14:07and I was pretty down.
0:14:09It's just, you're tired, it's hard to deal with.
0:14:11And in the room across from us, I noticed the,
0:14:16like the window, like the curtains over the sliding door
0:14:19kind of moving back and forth.
0:14:21And this sort of like two-year-old boy
0:14:22like popped out from behind the curtains and like popped back
0:14:25and he wanted to play peekaboo with me
0:14:26kind of across the hallway.
0:14:28And so we kind of played in the curtains for a little bit
0:14:30and they are still friends of ours to this day.
0:14:32They don't live in Memphis,
0:14:33they came here for their son's treatment
0:14:35and their son and my son are both doing really well
0:14:39because of St. Jude.
0:14:41The work is amazing.
0:14:42So once again, you wanna go to stjude.org/relay
0:14:46to donate and find out more about fundraising.
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0:16:16It's time to read the rules.
0:16:19- Oh my God, okay.
0:16:20- Yeah, it's like trying to show you
0:16:21still awake there, buddy, you know,
0:16:22just suckering you in with a whispering.
0:16:23- The Rickies is a game connected host.
0:16:26That's us play before Apple keynotes and the beginning of a new year trying to
0:16:30predict future events. It's made up of three rounds. Each host,
0:16:35each host makes two regular picks followed by a risky pick.
0:16:40There are two types of rookies, annual rookies and keynote rookies.
0:16:43The winner of the annual rookies is named the annual chairman and retains the
0:16:48rights of that Twitter account for a full year.
0:16:49This time we're playing the keynote rookies.
0:16:52The winner is named the keynote chairman and retains the rights of the
0:16:55of the course buying Twitter account until the next keynote is held.
0:16:58After the rookies, the hosts then play a game called the Flexis.
0:17:01These two games are separate but related.
0:17:03Every time freaks me out, because I think you forget to tell me to stand.
0:17:07Yeah, the preamble, you know?
0:17:09I have a question.
0:17:10Uh-huh.
0:17:11Do the rules that you're about to read include the revision?
0:17:13Yes.
0:17:14Okay, good.
0:17:15Yes.
0:17:16I wanted to just double check that we were included in the revision today.
0:17:18Yes.
0:17:19Yeah, we made a change last week.
0:17:20This is a living document, just like Federico's iPad OS review.
0:17:23Yes.
0:17:24Well, this is a living document that's currently had a lot of work put into it.
0:17:29Yeah.
0:17:30Because I've had a review as a living document that has had zero work.
0:17:34You know the difference?
0:17:35You know what the difference is?
0:17:36We're actually fixing the rules.
0:17:37They're on the act of development.
0:17:40Yeah, look, another four weeks and we can get them right.
0:17:42People keep saying that.
0:17:43Yeah, for sure.
0:17:46Please stand for the reading of the rules.
0:17:47[Music]
0:17:54Correct regular picks are awarded one point.
0:17:57The language used for regular picks must be finalized and agreed upon during recording
0:18:02and no partial points may be awarded.
0:18:04Correct risky picks are worth two points,
0:18:07but wrong ones will cause a point to be deducted from that host total.
0:18:11Picks must have been approved as risky by the two other hosts before the start of the game.
0:18:17A pick cannot be named risky if it has been previously rumored by publications of record,
0:18:229-5 Mac or MacRumors.
0:18:26Picks made for keynote rookies cannot be reused by the host who made them for the next keynote.
0:18:30The annual rookies have their own subset of rules.
0:18:33Once a host chooses something as an annual pick, they cannot reuse it in that calendar
0:18:38year.
0:18:39Additionally, picks may not be used in back-to-back annual rookies by the same host.
0:18:44All hosts however are allowed to reuse picks previously made by others.
0:18:48Scoring is completed during recording and cannot be modified once an episode is complete.
0:18:53In the event of a tie, dice by p-calc must be used in relay FM mode to pick a winner.
0:19:00Jason Snell has a lifetime ban on flipping any coins in relation to the rookies.
0:19:05Coin "flips" by Jason on other podcasts are allowed but are frowned upon and subject
0:19:12to public shaming.
0:19:13Any is good because it's like we wouldn't even trust him to use the app, right?
0:19:17Yeah, yeah.
0:19:19Real or virtual coins? Banned.
0:19:23For keynote rookies, the scoring window starts when the event begins and closes
0:19:29when the picks are scored. Any information used in scoring must be publicly verifiable
0:19:34at the time of recording. The order of picks is set by previous performance.
0:19:39The winner of the previous associated game goes first, the previous loser goes last.
0:19:44Winners will be recognized during the closing ceremonies.
0:19:47As a reminder, I am the current Annual Chairman and Federico Vittucci of Italy is the current Keynote Chairman.
0:19:53Past results can be seen at rookies.co and rookies.net.
0:19:57Exact links are in the show notes.
0:19:59These sites also have pages about managing your own scorekeeping at home.
0:20:02You may be seated.
0:20:05So I listened back to last week's episode today and I had forgotten about the music you play.
0:20:11It's good right?
0:20:12When you when you do that, yep, I forgot about it.
0:20:14It's fun, it's fun to put that together.
0:20:16All right Federico you are defending your title so you're up first.
0:20:20Okay so round one of the regular picks I said
0:20:26at least one of the next pro iPhones will have an always on display.
0:20:32Were you both as surprised as I as to how little a deal was made of this during the keynote?
0:20:38It was like 45 seconds. They were kind of like, "Finally, we did it! Jeesh, alright, let's move on."
0:20:46I actually just mentioned this a few minutes ago. I did a town hall thing for the club discord
0:20:51members. Like, we all went into this event thinking, "No, the always-on display is gonna be
0:20:58the big deal for the iPhone 14 Pro.
0:21:01It's going to be like all the signs from WWDC
0:21:05are pointing in this direction.
0:21:06This is the software, the hardware feature.
0:21:09They've been keeping a secret in software.
0:21:11Yeah, the answer was yeah.
0:21:13I mean, there you go, one minute.
0:21:15Now we have an always on display
0:21:17because turns out the big software change
0:21:19was something else that did not leak
0:21:22in its actual form and behavior.
0:21:26So, yeah, I was very surprised by this.
0:21:29- I was also surprised at how little this,
0:21:34how little it actually dims.
0:21:36Like if you look at the GIF on Apple's page,
0:21:38- Right.
0:21:39- It's much closer to the Apple Watch
0:21:41than I thought it would have been.
0:21:42It's basic, you know,
0:21:43I kind of thought maybe the wallpaper will go away
0:21:45or go really far in the background.
0:21:47At least in their product imagery,
0:21:49it's not a huge, huge difference.
0:21:52Not what I was expecting.
0:21:53It kind of looks like what the sleep focus does.
0:21:57- It does, yeah.
0:21:58But it doesn't even--
0:21:59- So I'm really intrigued.
0:22:00I'm really intrigued.
0:22:01- But it doesn't seem to blur the wallpaper
0:22:03the way the sleep focus does.
0:22:05They made a comment in the keynote about
0:22:08if you have a picture of a human,
0:22:10like most of us do on a lock screen,
0:22:11like it does what it can when it brings the brightness down
0:22:13to like preserve skin tones and stuff.
0:22:15- Wait, you think most of us have a picture of a human
0:22:17on the lock screen?
0:22:18- I do and Myke does.
0:22:19So that's most of us.
0:22:20- I would say most people do.
0:22:22I would say most people do. Interesting. Interesting.
0:22:25I know you have a picture of a Nintendo three D S but most people put their
0:22:29loved ones on their lock screen. I have a picture of my wife. Me too. My wife.
0:22:33I have a picture of my wife, not your wife.
0:22:36I have a picture of Federico on my lock screen. I have John.
0:22:43Yeah. I think, I think I understand you don't Federico. I think most people do.
0:22:47I think most people have a human being of some description as dead as their
0:22:50luxury but but I would bet pets are number two like people dogs and then
0:22:56whatever else yeah specifically dogs stem fish then cats yeah I had a bird
0:23:02for a while was that your bird Steven no so in 2019 I spent you into bird
0:23:10watching no let me tell the story it's more fun to guess yeah I in 2019 I
0:23:20I spent a week in Maine with my family at this camp.
0:23:22It's really awesome.
0:23:23And one afternoon I took a kayak out on this huge lake
0:23:28and there were some rocks by the lake
0:23:29and there was a bird on top of the rock.
0:23:32And it's like, maybe y'all have had these moments.
0:23:33Like I have them in nature sometimes.
0:23:35It's like, just like a very like peaceful feeling.
0:23:37Like, you know, the rest of the world kind of disappears.
0:23:40And I kind of had this moment with this bird on this rock.
0:23:43And so for a while it was my lock screen,
0:23:44but now it's back to my wife, Mary, not Adina, my wife.
0:23:49Your wife Adina?
0:23:50You said Adina comma my wife, right?
0:23:54- Yes.
0:23:55- That's what you said, right?
0:23:56You made it worse, I think.
0:23:57- Yes.
0:23:58- Look, it's 6 p.m., I'm doing my best, okay?
0:24:00When you get old, you go to bed early.
0:24:02Myke, you're up.
0:24:04- Oh, so everyone knows my pic, right?
0:24:09Listen to my pic, these are my words.
0:24:11- No, they're not your words!
0:24:12- These are my words, it's written down, it's my pic.
0:24:15At least one iPhone will have the notch removed,
0:24:17replaced by a cut out for the camera and sensors free floating from the border
0:24:23aka an island of black glass in an ocean of pixels it's written here I must have
0:24:29said that Stephen roll back the tape who said it I said it I just said it no
0:24:36this was the poem one of my absolute favorite moments in keynote history when
0:24:42they said dynamic island I could not believe it
0:24:46[Music]
0:24:48Okay. At least one iPhone will have the notch removed, replaced by a hole punch style camera
0:24:54and sensors.
0:24:55Okay, okay. So, so we need to define here, I know what you mean. Like you mean, what
0:25:03are they calling it? The pill?
0:25:06Okay so there's two. This is the, so this is what I actually wanted to talk to you guys
0:25:09about this, about like the wording here. Or maybe we just come to an agreement, we know
0:25:13what I mean.
0:25:14Now, there is a selection of styles Apple could take here.
0:25:17They could, some people have said that there will be a hole punch for a camera,
0:25:21so like a circular cut out for a camera and screen,
0:25:24and then a more like oval one that has the sensor array.
0:25:27There have been some people that have suggested that it will be a larger oval
0:25:31and it will have both the camera and the sensor array in it.
0:25:35Basically what I'm saying is,
0:25:37there is a cut out in the screen where the camera and the sensors are.
0:25:40Okay, so I guess a good way to understand, like regardless of the design, is there a
0:25:49portion of the display above the cutout? Because right now there isn't. Because the notch comes
0:25:56down from the very top. Right, this is going to be like an island of black glass within an ocean of
0:26:04pixels, right? Right now the notch is really an extension of the screen border. Wow, you're so
0:26:09- Popo Eric, Steven.
0:26:10Such a beautiful wording for the iPhone 14 Pro, okay.
0:26:15- Yeah, so in my mind, this is,
0:26:17it is free floating from the screen border
0:26:21around the outside edge.
0:26:23- Yeah.
0:26:24- Hold on, I'm now changing my pick.
0:26:25(upbeat music)
0:26:27I have no idea how this happened.
0:26:31Steven is a prophet.
0:26:33- It turns out.
0:26:34Yeah, it's wild to me.
0:26:36- What are the chances?
0:26:37- My Twitter mentions, as y'all did, I'm sure,
0:26:40just went wild with this.
0:26:42- No, it's just, I didn't.
0:26:43I think everyone was just tweeting at you.
0:26:45- Maybe.
0:26:46The name is really interesting,
0:26:47but what I did not see coming,
0:26:50and what, again, just, it's the day of the keynote,
0:26:52so we haven't seen it,
0:26:54but what caught me off guard
0:26:56is how much cool stuff they're doing with it.
0:26:58Like, you can tap it, and it will like,
0:27:01like, your Now Playing is hidden in there,
0:27:03and then if you're running a timer,
0:27:05You get the little timer icon up there.
0:27:08It's really cool the way they're using this space
0:27:11to like show the Face ID animation.
0:27:14I just didn't expect it to be as interactive
0:27:18or as animated as it is.
0:27:20I think that's actually really cool.
0:27:22- This has to be one of my favorite things
0:27:24that Apple has done in a while in terms of software.
0:27:27And even what I just said is inaccurate
0:27:31because it's not just software,
0:27:32which I think it's the most fascinating thing about this dynamic island,
0:27:36jokes on the name aside, it's not software, it's not hardware.
0:27:41It's, it's a, it's a blend of the two,
0:27:45which I find really fascinating.
0:27:47What I find most interesting about it is that it's one of those features.
0:27:51It's one of those innovations, uh, that in hindsight,
0:27:55it looks so obvious and it looks so natural,
0:27:58but none of us were able to imagine it, right? If it is,
0:28:02if it's so obvious, then why none of us picked it last week as a risky pick.
0:28:07And that is a sign of a great innovation, something that you cannot imagine,
0:28:12but that a bunch of people have been studying and designing and refining for years.
0:28:17And when you see it in its final shape, it looks obvious.
0:28:21In hindsight, what's fascinating here is picking up the signs that Apple has left over the years
0:28:29that have led to the dynamic island now.
0:28:32It's very likely, and that's why I'm also happy
0:28:35that I do my annual iOS reviews,
0:28:37because you can go back and start checking
0:28:39all these little elements that Apple has been placing
0:28:43here and there in iOS for the past few years
0:28:46to build toward this kind of feature.
0:28:49It started off with these pill-shaped notifications
0:28:55that pop up from the top of the screen,
0:28:58or pop down, I guess, from the top of the screen.
0:29:02They first did those with the Apple Pencil connection
0:29:05on an iPad.
0:29:06Later, they did them with AirPods,
0:29:09Bluetooth connections. - Oh yeah, super smart.
0:29:12- Clipboard integration.
0:29:13All those, Split View on the iPad as well.
0:29:18- Copy paste.
0:29:20They put that on there. - Copy paste, yeah, yeah.
0:29:22So they started doing those pill-shaped alerts
0:29:25years ago. A couple of years ago they did this entire initiative in iOS 14, I want to say, called
0:29:33Compact UI that was all about telling developers, "Hey, why don't you rethink some of your key
0:29:38interactions to be smaller, to be more compact, to use iconography and symbols in a clever way,
0:29:48to have these multiple levels of nested menus,
0:29:52like make everything smaller,
0:29:54try to save users a few taps here and there.
0:29:57And then, and this is why I think this is so fascinating,
0:30:02live activities.
0:30:03One of the two main features, I would say,
0:30:07in iOS 16 at WWDC,
0:30:09there were widgets and live activities.
0:30:12And we all thought, oh, obviously widgets are pointing
0:30:17to the always on display, that's going to be the software feature that we see now that
0:30:24is hinting at the next iPhone. This always happens. We all focused on that. But in reality,
0:30:31maybe I think live activities were a bigger deal. Because the concept was, now you have
0:30:37a way to keep an eye on real-time updates from your favorite apps, and it's built on
0:30:41top of WidgetKit, it's all done with SwiftUI. Now you can keep an eye on
0:30:46news, sports, Ubers, food delivery apps, all that kind of stuff.
0:30:52And I think it's been positively received as a feature we all thought,
0:30:58"That's cool. Sure, if you're using your iPhone, you gotta go back to the
0:31:03lock screen if you want to keep an eye on these real-time updates, but that's
0:31:06still fine. The thing is, these live activities will also work in the Dynamic Island, and
0:31:15they will be part of the Activity Kit framework, which developers can build live activities
0:31:22for. And that's where the genius part of this integration lies. Live activities were not
0:31:30just part of the lock screen as this bigger idea of customization and having more glanceable data.
0:31:38That's one side of the story. The other side of the story is, on iPhone 14 Pro, those real-time
0:31:44updates are actually real-time, and you can see them always in the dynamic island. And compact UI
0:31:53comes into play here, because those live activities, by default, they're minimized.
0:31:59Now, I'm not sure what the exact wording is,
0:32:01I haven't checked out the Human Interface Guidelines yet,
0:32:04but they will be minimized in the Dynamic Island.
0:32:07When you tap, or tap and hold, I believe, on the island,
0:32:12they will expand to show you the same design that you can see on the lock screen.
0:32:17So, like, I find all of this so fascinating, because at a macro level,
0:32:21they've been building toward this exact feature for the past few years.
0:32:25you don't get to this point without doing all the work that's been done before. With CompactUI,
0:32:31with SwiftUI and WidgetKit, with SF symbols, arguably, because you're going to have to show
0:32:36some glyphs in there, and obviously with those kind of notifications that we've been
0:32:41seeing for the past several years. But also, it shows how at WWDC just a few months ago,
0:32:48they had this feature, they showed it to us as part of the lock screen, but as it turns out,
0:32:54it's part of the entire iPhone experience, whatever you're doing on a 14 Pro, because the
0:33:00dynamic island is always there, and it's something that no other, I'm pretty sure I can say this,
0:33:06that no other smartphone manufacturer has done it like Apple in this case,
0:33:13with all the integrations that they have. I don't think they can, I don't think anyone else can do
0:33:17it, because like if you're looking at Android, just the way that things are split up, like if
0:33:21if Samsung came up with this, it would be incredibly difficult for them to get third
0:33:24parties to develop specifically for this, right? Like I just, you know, Google could
0:33:29come up with it for Android, but then they've got to get all the everybody to put it in,
0:33:33right? Like it's, it just doesn't work like that. Now I'm fascinated by this. I do have
0:33:36a question for you. I don't know if you know the answer to this. You mentioned live activities
0:33:40and activity kit. Does activity kit do anything other than live activities? Not right now.
0:33:45Okay, so like live activities are a part of Activity Kit, but Activity Kit is what developers
0:33:52will call it and live activities is what consumers will call it probably.
0:33:56Yeah, Activity Kit is the name of the framework.
0:33:59It's like Widget Kit, it's the name of the framework.
0:34:01Widgets is the public name.
0:34:03Live activities are the public name.
0:34:05And also pay attention to something here.
0:34:08Apple will have an advantage with their own live activities, such as the Now Playing Controls
0:34:14or the timer for example because those are using private APIs that make the activity interactive.
0:34:21Developers cannot do that. Developers cannot build live activities like the music one or the timer
0:34:27one where you have buttons that you can press. I actually feel like for the Dynamic Island I don't
0:34:34care about the active like about the interactivity. I agree. Before a typical live activity I would
0:34:41like more of it but I could but I'm also okay without it too but you know what I mean but
0:34:45like for the dynamic island my expectation is most of the time if you tap one of those
0:34:50what you would like it to do is open the app right I'm expecting but yeah I'm incredibly
0:34:57excited for this feature it looks really cool.
0:35:00Yeah it's cool that it brings a whole new interaction type to iOS out of what should
0:35:06could have just been oh it's a slight industrial redesign we got rid of the notch now we have
0:35:11this thing, right? I didn't expect them to bring functionality with the design. I
0:35:16mean there were stories last week about what's the area around the, you know, what
0:35:21we now know is the dynamic island. What, you know, how are they gonna fit things
0:35:25around there, right? Because the inset and the safe areas are gonna change, but this
0:35:29is, this is really cool. I was really excited to see it. I'm looking forward to
0:35:34getting my hands on to it. All right, we're ready to move on from this one?
0:35:37yeah that sounds that sounds good okay my pick was Apple shows off at least one
0:35:42iowa 16 feature that we haven't seen before I mean take your pick multiple
0:35:50yes I felt like there was a bunch of them we have the emergency SOS via
0:35:54satellite we have the all the island stuff that we just talked about we have
0:36:01stuff in the health it's using the Apple watch too so this is kind of watch OS
0:36:06kind of iOS but the the using the temperature sensors for cycle and ovulation tracking, which
0:36:13is really, really cool. A lot of stuff, a lot of hardware stuff, crash detection is
0:36:18an iOS crash detection. That low key is like maybe the most important thing they announced
0:36:25today. I really think it is and it's cool that it's on the iPhone as well. But you know,
0:36:31a lot of more monocars like my wife's car has this right my wife's car. If she's in
0:36:35in an accident, it will call like Toyota
0:36:40or whatever company they use and like report an accident
0:36:42in her location and stuff, right?
0:36:44But my truck's older, it doesn't have any of that, right?
0:36:48A lot of people's cars don't have that
0:36:50or they don't wanna pay for it and we don't,
0:36:53Apple's just got it built into the new watches
0:36:56and new phones, I think it's, the crash detection
0:36:58is really cool, I was really excited to see that.
0:37:01Yeah, there'll be stories, there'll be lots of stories.
0:37:05Can we talk about this for a second?
0:37:07Tangent time.
0:37:09They announced, you know, Jeff Williams is out there
0:37:11talking about the Apple Watch,
0:37:12but they always play this video
0:37:13about how the Apple Watch saved people's lives.
0:37:16- I know where this is going.
0:37:17- And a couple of years ago,
0:37:19it was our friend Kyle riding a bike
0:37:20and getting in shape, right?
0:37:22This year, there was someone in a plane crash,
0:37:25someone who got trapped in a garbage truck,
0:37:27which is just the most horrifying thing I can think of.
0:37:30- That was my favorite one.
0:37:31That's the weirdest one.
0:37:33- Yeah, there was a dude who had a bear in his cabin.
0:37:37- Yeah.
0:37:38I mean, those are real stories, right?
0:37:40I mean, you gotta assume that Apple verified the stories
0:37:45because they mentioned, like, we always receive letters,
0:37:47but like, okay, so what if I write
0:37:49the most incredible story to Apple and it's fake, right?
0:37:53So you gotta assume that they actually verified
0:37:56the truth of these stories.
0:38:01- So, but yeah, the dude who fell into the trash compactor,
0:38:04I mean, that was something.
0:38:05- That's horrifying.
0:38:06- I mean, our friend James was one of these stories too.
0:38:12And he had had-
0:38:13- Wait, did he fall in a trash compactor?
0:38:13- No, he had a heart episode.
0:38:16So he was one of those stories too,
0:38:18'cause he had some heart troubles
0:38:20and Apple Watch saved his life.
0:38:22He didn't fall in a trash compactor.
0:38:23- You know, I think Apple is,
0:38:26I think they take some heat,
0:38:27at least on social media of like,
0:38:28"Oh, buy this divisor, you'll die."
0:38:30I mean, that's one way to look at it.
0:38:32But the way I look at it is I can have something,
0:38:35like for instance, she's not gonna hear this,
0:38:37so I'll talk about her.
0:38:38My mom had a fall a few years ago and it was really bad.
0:38:42And earlier this year,
0:38:43we gave her an Apple Watch with fall detection.
0:38:46I was like, wear this all the time.
0:38:49Take it off once you're in bed
0:38:51and put it on before you get out of bed.
0:38:53And it really gives me a sense of peace,
0:38:58you know, like a peace of mind that if something happens,
0:39:01I will know about it, right?
0:39:03And so this stuff is important.
0:39:04It does impact real people.
0:39:06Like, yes, they obviously use the flashiest ones
0:39:08in these videos, but I think it's cool
0:39:11that technology can do that for us.
0:39:14- I told my mom I wanted to get one for her for that reason
0:39:17and she did not appreciate it.
0:39:18So.
0:39:19(laughing)
0:39:22Yes, that was kind of how it went.
0:39:23I think I should have maybe started with a different reason
0:39:25for why I wanted to get her an Apple Watch.
0:39:27I don't think she's really she would love it. Yeah. My mom is known for climbing mountains. She is
0:39:33I saw her out there last weekend. So at the end of round one, we have a perfect tie
0:39:38We all got our first round picks, correct. I mean
0:39:43No
0:39:45Perfect tie like zipper. It literally is a perfect time
0:39:49Yeah, no partial points or points for stealing my no genius. So there are no spiritual points
0:39:55There are no half points like an equal like it's not like
0:39:59Some pics are more equal than others is what you're saying. That's not cool. I think so. I think so. Let's move on round two
0:40:06Federico kick us off
0:40:08There won't be a mini iPhone in the iPhone 14 family
0:40:13Yeah, so
0:40:166.1 6.7 inches the mini there's no iPhone 14 mini
0:40:22They're keeping the iPhone 13 mini for sale. If you're one of those people you want to buy a spare you can
0:40:27There's no 14 mini, I'm sorry we knew this was gonna happen
0:40:35You gotta believe that it still stings for people who were holding out any degree of hope
0:40:41That Apple would change their minds on this they didn't
0:40:44There's no mini iPhone and look if they didn't make one. It's because they didn't sell enough of them
0:40:50So, you know, take it up to Team Apple.
0:40:53Take it up to Team Apple.
0:40:55Late last week, the rumor broke of the plus name coming back in the regular 14 line.
0:41:02What do you all think about that?
0:41:03I mean, I don't think it's the right name.
0:41:05Really?
0:41:06Yeah, I mean, I said this on the show last week.
0:41:08I think plus should be used for services now.
0:41:11But you see that my thinking was correct, that they're saving Max like, and I think
0:41:17Gruber wrote about this last night, like I think in Apple's mind, max means, you know,
0:41:24not just big, but also bigger and fancier. Like it's not just the big size, it's more
0:41:33features, it's more expensive, you know. And plus is just, I guess, plus in services means
0:41:41something, plus in hardware means bigger size.
0:41:44So yeah, but like in the iPhone 14 Pro right now, the max doesn't have any different features that are regular
0:41:51So why isn't it called the iPhone 14 plus? No, you lost me there
0:41:55Like why is it not the iPhone 14 Pro Plus like it's the same as the iPhone
0:42:0114 Pro like there isn't any difference this time
0:42:04So by that logic, it would just be the iPhone 14 Pro Plus, right? Because there's nothing different about it compared to the smaller size
0:42:11Yeah, I don't think it's so much about about that
0:42:13but it's furthering the distance between the regular line and the pro line.
0:42:19From that angle it makes sense to me and I get what you're saying and
0:42:24you're not wrong I mean the the internal logic of Apple's naming has never
0:42:28been Apple's strong suit. But I'm glad they went with it I think it makes it a
0:42:33little bit easier to talk about.
0:42:35Just real quick, I don't know if they're gonna change this.
0:42:38I just thought I'd check it was super weird. You can buy an iPhone 12 for $599
0:42:42right now oh wow you can buy an iPhone 13 for $599 now I got it I got to think
0:42:50the iPhone regular iPhone 12 is gonna go away yeah what's you know what I mean
0:42:56like it's the same price mm-hmm very strange find the first it is very it is
0:43:02very strange so you can get both the 12 and the 13 of the same price same price
0:43:07yeah are you sure hundred percent I checked I checked you three times I
0:43:10I thought surely that's the mini, no it's not.
0:43:12- But why?
0:43:13No, that is--
0:43:14- Maybe one of them's like,
0:43:15maybe there's like a trade in price thing going on there,
0:43:18but like, and I don't,
0:43:21my hope is they'll change it when the iPhone 13 goes on sale,
0:43:24but like, it's just strange.
0:43:25- No, I mean, you're right.
0:43:26You can buy both the 12 and the 13.
0:43:30Huh, well, okay, all right.
0:43:33- It's weird, very weird.
0:43:35I think that there's a base storage difference too,
0:43:39Which makes it even stranger.
0:43:41Oh, I don't know.
0:43:42It's very odd to me.
0:43:43But anyway, you can get 12.
0:43:45What's the 14 gonna be?
0:43:48What does that start at?
0:43:49That doesn't start at 599.
0:43:51- It's the same as the 13 regular, not the mini.
0:43:55- Only in the US, the race prices in Europe.
0:43:58- So I don't know what's going on.
0:43:59I don't know what's going on with the 13 and the 12.
0:44:02Like the 13 and the 12,
0:44:03you can buy them both for 599 right now.
0:44:05And I don't understand that.
0:44:08but then the 14 is 799 obviously.
0:44:10It's very peculiar.
0:44:11- Yeah, that's strange.
0:44:12- Very peculiar.
0:44:13- It's 12 regular and 13 mini, says Zach.
0:44:16That's what I'm getting tripped up on.
0:44:18- Oh, okay.
0:44:19- Okay, so this is a pointless thing to go over.
0:44:24- Just skip right over that.
0:44:26- What were we talking about?
0:44:27- It's your pick, it's your turn.
0:44:28- At least one iPhone gets an upgraded main camera.
0:44:31- All of them did, right?
0:44:34- Yes, the cameras got upgraded across the board.
0:44:37main cameras and Apple now calls it main camera not wide camera. It was so
0:44:41confusing to say wide and ultra wide now it's main and ultra wide if you ask me
0:44:45should be called main and wide like get rid of ultra wide you know people just
0:44:51people call it the wide camera anyway. Because now it's strange if there's no
0:44:55wide lens right now we got ultra wide where's wide? Like ultra wide compared to
0:45:02what? Like, I don't know. Even the front-facing camera is improved. Yes. So you got all the
0:45:09upgraded cameras for this. And they've all, they've all got that, what is it called,
0:45:14Fot- photon engine. Action mode? What are they calling it? No, the photonic engine. Photonic engine, yeah.
0:45:20Photonic engine, which I don't know, I don't know what it does. Like, it takes, I think my
0:45:26understanding is that it takes deep fusion and applies deep fusion before in
0:45:33the process. It's like when you're putting salt in your pasta before the
0:45:37water is boiling or something like it does that. It makes a big difference
0:45:40though so if it's the same thing like right it's always good to put the salt
0:45:46in early because you benefit from that through the cooking. See I think they should call it
0:45:50now shallow fusion because it happens sooner it's like closer to the surface.
0:45:54Right, you should be in charge of Apple marketing, Steven.
0:45:58Is it actually deeper? Because it's happening sooner, right? Is it deeper Fusion now?
0:46:04A deep and open Fusion.
0:46:06My hope though is that this will actually improve the issues that I have with Deep Fusion,
0:46:11which is that I think it makes images look dark.
0:46:13Or it's going to make them worse. It can only go two ways.
0:46:18No, no, because they particularly said that it will be more detail and like more vivid
0:46:23bright colors and it's like that's what I want so you just wait for it don't do
0:46:28this to me camera like don't take this away from me
0:46:3448 megapixel camera I'm hyped for the pixel I think it's gonna be amazing
0:46:38whatever that means quad pixel camera it's binning right it's just pixel
0:46:43binning yeah so I can give you a very simple explanation the way I understand
0:46:48it please so you have 48 megapixels right and instead of taking all of the
0:46:53information from each one of those let's just say 48 megapixels they put them
0:46:58together so you just sample them of like as a as a set of four instead so it's
0:47:05called quad pixel is that what they call it so they are able to pull more
0:47:10information out but they can let more light in for each actual fake pixel
0:47:15quote-unquote that they are actually sampling the image from so it's like if
0:47:18If I have 14, 8 different pairs of shoes, I put them together in 12 sets of 4 similar
0:47:27shoes and then I just pick one from the set.
0:47:30I don't know if that...
0:47:32It's kind of like that.
0:47:33If that has helped you understand...
0:47:36It has.
0:47:37Good.
0:47:38But I don't know if you have understood based on what you've said.
0:47:41I think I have understood.
0:47:43I think I have understood better than you in fact.
0:47:47- Okay then, this is an interesting turnabout.
0:47:51Explain to me, now I understand better than you do.
0:47:55- I was testing you.
0:47:58- In these events, it's always easy to say,
0:48:02oh, this phone did this first,
0:48:03that other phone did it first.
0:48:04I'm gonna do that just for a second.
0:48:06The Google Pixel, all eight of them they've sold,
0:48:09also features car crash detection.
0:48:11So if you have a Google Pixel,
0:48:13go turn that on in settings, please.
0:48:15It could save your life.
0:48:16Who told you about that?
0:48:18- Nine to five Google.
0:48:19- How did you just search for it?
0:48:21- They contacted you?
0:48:22- I just, no, I just swiped over to Twitter
0:48:24and it was the top thing, so.
0:48:25- Oh, so you're reading Twitter?
0:48:26Well, me and Federico are talking about shoes.
0:48:28- Just checking in, I check in when we record.
0:48:31- Professional over here.
0:48:32- We were having a really important conversation
0:48:33about shoes and you.
0:48:35- Chance texted to me because I'm his favorite.
0:48:37So far, we're all tied.
0:48:39Here comes my pick and boys, let me tell you,
0:48:43I thought I had it.
0:48:45I actually thought I had it until the Apple site
0:48:48came back up.
0:48:49The Apple Watch SE announced in 2020 moves down in price
0:48:54with no feature changes, parenthetical not graded,
0:48:58series seven or SE two takes the middle price point
0:49:01where the SE is now.
0:49:03I didn't get this.
0:49:05Apple has abandoned its lowest price point on the watch.
0:49:09And I am honest, honestly, I mean,
0:49:12pick a side that cost me the regular picks,
0:49:15actually really surprised by this.
0:49:17Would you say you are, what's a good word, flabbergasted?
0:49:22(laughing)
0:49:23When you start the dad joke,
0:49:25you have to have the dad joke in mind.
0:49:26Wasn't that dad joke he was just asking you flabbergasted?
0:49:30I was just trying to find an English word
0:49:33that encapsulates the word.
0:49:34Oh, see now I feel bad.
0:49:36Yeah.
0:49:36Yeah, yeah, so the new Apple Watch SE,
0:49:40which is basically, I don't,
0:49:44I'm very unclear what is new in the new SE,
0:49:47but Alex just posted something on Mac Stories
0:49:50you'll put in the show notes, you can read about it.
0:49:51But it starts at 249.
0:49:53They've gotten rid of that 199 price point
0:49:55that the Series 3, which thankfully is gone,
0:49:59that price point has been abandoned.
0:50:00I'm just really surprised.
0:50:02- Thank God the Series 3 is gone.
0:50:04- That's the important thing.
0:50:05- I'm sad for your pick, but that's the important part,
0:50:09the series three is gone. I'm not sad for the pick. I'm happy for the... I'm happy the pick's wrong.
0:50:14Because you remember he was... oh I'm gonna consolidate. I'm gonna consolidate. You remember that?
0:50:17We haven't judged the Ricky picks yet, so let's just... don't count your chickens till they're hatched.
0:50:24I guess yes, yeah, that's actually a good point. Yeah, you could still... you could still tie?
0:50:28Yes. I mean, and you know, losing the coin flip as I always do. But uh, the SE starts at $249.
0:50:37The Series 8 starts at $399. The Ultra starts at $799.
0:50:42And we'll talk about the Ultra in a little bit.
0:50:44But yeah, this is the Apple Watch Series, you know, kind of lineup moving forward.
0:50:49So, there you go.
0:50:51So at the end of our regular picks, Federico has two points,
0:50:55Myke has two points, and I have one point.
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0:52:33We now enter the Risky Picks section of this game,
0:52:37and I will go first.
0:52:39My Risky Pick was the iPhone 14 Pro camera
0:52:42introduces some kind of 3D capturing functionality.
0:52:47Now, obviously we didn't get any of this,
0:52:50but I will say that I'm,
0:52:55I guess the new thing this year is Action Mode.
0:53:00I was surprised to not have like a new photo related gimmick in the 14 Pro.
0:53:08Like cinematic mode?
0:53:09Well, yeah, no, I mean there's action mode.
0:53:12Well, there's adventure mode.
0:53:14Yeah, that one.
0:53:16Which is just better stabilization?
0:53:18Yes, that's what, yeah.
0:53:21I think there's a lot of, I think you're gonna do a lot of weird software stuff in that.
0:53:26So like I reckon you're probably only getting some of the image.
0:53:29-Yeah, probably so. -Just punched in quite a bit.
0:53:32But I was really expecting it to be like a new photo mode,
0:53:36whether it was going to be astrophotography,
0:53:38which we did not see,
0:53:41or something else like I thought 3D capturing,
0:53:43but like anything about photos, not videos.
0:53:46And instead for photos, they did the new 1X, 2X, 3X mode
0:53:52on the Pro line, but that's about it.
0:53:54So it's not really a new photo functionality.
0:53:57It's like, if anything, restoring the 2x option.
0:54:01I don't get this, and I'm sad about it.
0:54:04- AirPods Max 2 can be folded to store more compactly.
0:54:08- I mean, this was a bold prediction.
0:54:10We did get an appearance of AirPods Max
0:54:15in the AirPods Pro segment.
0:54:19There was a person on a train wearing AirPods Max.
0:54:23That's the only sight of headphones that we got at the event.
0:54:28But yeah, they cannot be folded more compactly
0:54:32because they do not exist, Myke.
0:54:34- No, I am excited about AirPods Pro 2 though.
0:54:37- Me too, very much so.
0:54:41I'm gonna order them right away.
0:54:43Finally, the volume control thing that we always wanted
0:54:46that you should be able to use a swipe gesture
0:54:49to control the volume.
0:54:50The sampling that they're doing
0:54:52for the adaptive transparency mode is super cool.
0:54:55It's basically sampling the environment around you
0:54:58at 48 kilohertz, essentially.
0:55:01It's like it's taking 48,000 samples per second.
0:55:04That's exactly what it is.
0:55:05So yeah.
0:55:07And the case-- - Is that
0:55:07the noise cancellation?
0:55:08- Yeah, it's the adaptive transparency,
0:55:10which is the new feature where
0:55:12when you are in transparency mode,
0:55:16if there's like a sudden loud noise,
0:55:19it's gonna adapt to hide that noise.
0:55:22That's really cool.
0:55:23- That's always done that a little bit, right?
0:55:25Like I feel like if I would hear a siren, it would cut it,
0:55:29but maybe this is doing it way better.
0:55:32- Yeah.
0:55:33- I don't know.
0:55:33I feel like I've experienced that before,
0:55:35but I think maybe they're doing a much better job of it now.
0:55:38- Yeah, I guess they are.
0:55:40Yeah.
0:55:41Sadly, no colors, still just white AirPods Pro.
0:55:46Just kind of boring.
0:55:48- Can we talk about the charging case?
0:55:51- Yeah.
0:55:52- So it still uses lightning, not USB-C.
0:55:55It keeps MagSafe compatibility and Qi compatibility,
0:56:00but now you can also use the Apple Watch charger.
0:56:04- So good.
0:56:05- Yeah, if you're just on a multi-day hike
0:56:07with your watch and AirPods, that's really cool.
0:56:09Have they built a tiny reverse air power in this case?
0:56:13- Wait, what?
0:56:14- How?
0:56:15- It's like a tiny reverse air power.
0:56:17You can charge it with anything you want.
0:56:19Oh, is that, wait, so, okay, I get what you're saying now.
0:56:23The actual AirPods case is reverse air power
0:56:28because it can be charged by anything.
0:56:33- Except USB-C.
0:56:34- Well, with a dongle.
0:56:35- Kind of cracked me up.
0:56:36It also has a little cutout on the side for--
0:56:41- Lanyards. - Like a wrist strap.
0:56:42You guys remember the old iPod Touch that had a lanyard
0:56:45or like a wrist strap thing that came with it?
0:56:46- Oh yeah, and the shuffle.
0:56:48No, I'm thinking of the Shuffle though.
0:56:49The Shuffle came with Alanya, the original one.
0:56:52Yeah, the first Shuffle was, yeah.
0:56:54But there was also a touch with a little button on the back
0:56:57and a little wrist strap went onto it,
0:56:59like a little, like a Wiimote kind of thing.
0:57:02You apparently can also buy,
0:57:04I think it was the AirPods 3,
0:57:05you can get them for $10 less
0:57:07if you don't want wireless charging in them.
0:57:10Why does that exist?
0:57:11Why did they make that now?
0:57:13I don't know.
0:57:14Why is that, like why?
0:57:16and it's such a small price difference.
0:57:19I don't understand that at all.
0:57:21- Don't you wanna save $10?
0:57:23- You'd give that $10 to St. Jude?
0:57:25- Yeah, but like if I'm already, what,
0:57:27$160 in or whatever?
0:57:29- If you don't care about them, give me $10 then.
0:57:32- Okay, I'll give you $10.
0:57:33I'll give you $10.
0:57:34What do you want it for?
0:57:35- He's gonna give it to St. Jude.
0:57:36- I wanna buy some pizza.
0:57:38- How do you want me to send you this $10?
0:57:40What's the best way for me to send you $10?
0:57:42- No, I don't want $10 from you.
0:57:43I was just making a joke.
0:57:45I don't know how to do it.
0:57:46I'm just saying like I'm a man of my word.
0:57:48If you asked for $10, I would say give me $10.
0:57:49- I don't need your dirty money, sir.
0:57:52- Y'all would be goofier because it's late,
0:57:54but y'all are very serious and literal
0:57:55and I don't know what to do with it.
0:57:58- It's hard.
0:57:59This is hard.
0:57:59This is very difficult, the situation.
0:58:02- It's the only way to keep up with the time.
0:58:03Look, it's almost 2 a.m. for me, okay?
0:58:05- Okay, well, speaking of hard and difficult,
0:58:08you remember last week I had to change my pick
0:58:12because it was previously rumored.
0:58:13My previous risky pick was the iPhone 14 Pro switches to titanium for the side rails.
0:58:19It didn't.
0:58:20I got that flexi wrong.
0:58:22I stole one of Federico's old risky picks from WWDC and I said iOS gets split view support
0:58:28for multitasking to use two apps at once.
0:58:32Well, that's my question.
0:58:35Now I got it wrong.
0:58:37I got it wrong, but spiritually I got it right.
0:58:40We all get to say the same thing.
0:58:42Federico you say it. I think Steven should get the point because the dynamic
0:58:47island lets you use two apps at the same time. No. I said it. He said split view. I got it
0:58:54wrong but I'm in the spiritual ballpark. I mean technically you are correct. Yeah
0:59:01but it comes down to wording and I think look. Yeah but that would say that
0:59:05control center is split view multitasking. No it's model it takes over the screen
0:59:10It's not like...
0:59:12I appreciate where you're going, because we wanted to go there. This is a funny thing.
0:59:16I like the idea of it. I think it's fun. I don't like the idea of it so much. I'm willing to give Stephen the point.
0:59:22I think we all knew what this was and we didn't get it. So, no point for me, but I'll take the high five from y'all for being in the ballpark.
0:59:33Look, you get the real, well not the real win,
0:59:36you get like a real good moral win for Dynamic Island, right?
0:59:40Like you can come away from this and read my pick,
0:59:43which says Island in it, and you can forever try
0:59:46and remember that you were the one that came up with it,
0:59:48even though it's in my pick.
0:59:50- Should I play the clip again?
0:59:51- You can play the clip as many times as you like.
0:59:53It still will be immortalized on all of the websites
0:59:57in Myke's pick.
0:59:58- Well, but all the websites, what they should do
1:00:00is they should specify that the expression was created by Stephen Hackett.
1:00:05They can do that without amending the text, so they're gonna have to find some way of
1:00:09adding that.
1:00:10Oh, I'm sure they will.
1:00:12I have no doubt.
1:00:13I have no doubt.
1:00:14These people, they could do some things.
1:00:16Stephen, can you sum up the score for us, please?
1:00:19At the end of the Risky Picks, Federico has one point, Myke has one point, and I have
1:00:29no points.
1:00:30So I am the loser.
1:00:31You know what that means.
1:00:32It's time to break the tie.
1:00:35Are you ready to face the person who is actually known as coin flip champion?
1:00:40Having successfully picked 69.2% I have a win rate of my coin flips.
1:00:48Nice point two.
1:00:49Nice point two.
1:00:50Nice.
1:00:51I have done 13 coin flips as part of this game and I have won nine of them.
1:00:56I have been a part of more coin flips than either of you and have won more than both of you combined.
1:01:01Federico, how do you feel?
1:01:02Wow, that's quite the accomplishment. You must be proud of yourself.
1:01:06What a pretty smile on that head, but why not give some coins to a worthy cause instead?
1:01:12That is a beautiful poem, I believe read by Rosemary Orchard.
1:01:15Sounds like Rosemary.
1:01:16Federico, you've won. This is a rigged game.
1:01:19This is a rigged game.
1:01:20I am the savior of the coin flipping once again
1:01:24Triumphing in this game. This has been wrecked by Jay by James trying to seem like he
1:01:30Isn't rigging is now rigged it for Federico. This is an exact repeat of
1:01:35Wbdc
1:01:372022 what in which Federico won by coin flip and then it was Myke and then it was me
1:01:42So, I don't know if you can call it rigged rigged rigged again. That's rigged twice rigged twice in a row collusion
1:01:48It's been rigged twice in a row. Congratulations Federico, but you rigged it.
1:01:51Thank you. No collusion. I am very happy.
1:01:54No, there's definitely been a collusion.
1:01:55Some people may say that. So, can we read the poem again? What did it say?
1:02:01I mean, I can flip it again.
1:02:02Do we have the text?
1:02:03No, but I can flip it again and just see what happens.
1:02:06Well, we may need to do it for the flexi. So let's hold off on that.
1:02:10That's a good point. That's a good point.
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1:04:21This show and all of relay FM. It's now time for the flexes. You ask us to lie down
1:04:26We both might not come back to the show
1:04:28Okay, we'll make we'll make a exemption today. Thank you
1:04:33Or tomorrow as it is for y'all the flexes is a game held after each edition of the Rickies it consists of a series of
1:04:40additional picks in relation to the upcoming Apple event or year
1:04:44Scoring is completed separately from the main game
1:04:47But like the Rickies the order of picks is set by the rules of the previous game and ties will be broken using dice by Peacock
1:04:54Please sit as I read the rules
1:04:57Please stay awake as the rules are read
1:05:01*laughs*
1:05:03Hosts must make a minimum of five flexi picks.
1:05:15Each correct pick is awarded with one point. Wrong picks do not remove any points, but no
1:05:20partial points may be awarded. The winner is determined by comparing the percentage of correct
1:05:25flexis made by each host. While there are no Twitter handles on the line in the flexis,
1:05:30The winner can use their chosen title as long as they are the winner
1:05:33Federico shall be named prince flexi. Myke has chosen duke of flexington and I am the attorney general flexi
1:05:41Loser of the flexi must compensate the winner of the flexi by donating to a charity of the winner's choice
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1:05:49The amount of the donation is 25 per wrong flexi made by the loser
1:05:53The money must be donated on air and I am the current winner so I get to go first
1:05:59Okay. The keynote is a pre-recorded video.
1:06:05We got reports from people there that this was just like WWBC. Apparently Tim Cook came out
1:06:13and said something and waved and then hit play on a movie and people got to watch it and that was
1:06:19that was the event. I think it's pretty much what we expected. This is how they're always going to
1:06:23The iPhone 14 entry's price is the same or higher than the 13 mini's price of $699.
1:06:30As we discussed in the main picks the iPhone 14 takes over the iPhone 13's price of $799.
1:06:39Not a price hike in the US but around the world and a lot of markets
1:06:45these iPhones are more expensive than they were a year ago or you know yesterday.
1:06:50Mmm-hmm
1:06:53Number three. The iPhone 14 Pro comes in a total of five colors.
1:06:59Four colors.
1:07:00Four.
1:07:00Thoughts on the purple, gang?
1:07:02It looks great.
1:07:04It does look great.
1:07:05I would love to get one of those, yes.
1:07:08I will say, spoilers for upgrade, Jason told me it's not very purple.
1:07:13Oh no.
1:07:14He compared it to kind of like how the blue is in the midnight colors.
1:07:21Where it's like it can sometimes look purple, but most of the time does not look purple at all
1:07:26Well, that's a bummer. Yeah, I don't like the sound of that
1:07:30there's also
1:07:32The gold which looks the same as last year was there a change of the gold that you know my know about Myke
1:07:39Nope. Okay. So the gold there is the silver which looking at pictures
1:07:44I saw some back and forth on Twitter for people who were there the back seems
1:07:49White now as opposed to sort of the slightly off-white
1:07:52it's been the last couple of years but then with the the raw stainless around the edges and
1:07:56Then space gray has been replaced with space black and there were some pictures. I think it was graphite last year
1:08:03Maybe but it seems like this is the darkest iPhone
1:08:06Pro that we've ever had and it kind of gives me vibes of like the iPhone 7 or maybe the iPhone 5 and
1:08:14I think black is the way I'm gonna go this year because I really like that dark finish
1:08:19I don't love black stainless, but I'm gonna go with it this year, I think.
1:08:23So the colors on Apple's website reminds me of the color of the 10s.
1:08:32That like brownie color.
1:08:34Oh no, do you think so?
1:08:36That's what it looks like to me, because it doesn't look black to me.
1:08:40Like again, you never really know until you see these things, but it doesn't look black
1:08:46and it doesn't look gray, it's got that kind of...
1:08:50I don't know, it looks a little weird to me.
1:08:54The way to do this is wait for MKBHD's video
1:08:57because he'll have the color correct in his video.
1:09:01What I don't understand is why they've called...
1:09:03why they've just called this one space gray,
1:09:05like when there's no standard space gray anyway.
1:09:08I don't know.
1:09:09Why is it space black when it's not actually really black,
1:09:12even if it isn't gray, you know what I mean?
1:09:14Like it just looks gray to me still.
1:09:16I don't. Yeah.
1:09:18Yeah. So if it's bad in the hands-on videos by people who like know what they're
1:09:22doing, uh, I'll probably go white. Cause I liked the purple,
1:09:25but I don't think I'd want to carry it for a year. And I just don't like,
1:09:28I just don't like gold.
1:09:29Federico would you ideally go purple?
1:09:32Ideally yes, but I also want to see it in person if I can. Otherwise,
1:09:37I'll probably stick with the gold. I think.
1:09:41Gold's good though, right? You know what I mean? You can't go wrong with that.
1:09:44Beautiful. Beautiful gold.
1:09:46My next pick Apple mentions at least one feature quote coming later.
1:09:52Yeah, again, take your pick. There are several. There was a story about iCloud family shared
1:10:00library thing coming later. And we're talking to Jason about it. And of course, Jason was
1:10:04like, you need iPad and Mac OS to be out as well. Or those pictures disappear for people.
1:10:11I was like, oh yeah.
1:10:12So my assumption is that that's gonna come
1:10:15at the release of Mac OS and iPad OS,
1:10:18at least I hope so, but coming later.
1:10:20- You guys know that the one true John
1:10:24is in trouble now, right?
1:10:25- Yes, 'cause he put a bunch of his family photos
1:10:29in one of these and now his wife can't see them
1:10:31on her phone.
1:10:32- Yep, now his wife cannot see any pictures of the kids.
1:10:36I believe. - He's got one true problem
1:10:37over there, you know what I mean?
1:10:40Oh, John.
1:10:41Yeah, you do it for max stories, you know.
1:10:45That's a real John thing though too, right?
1:10:47Like why did he put the actual family photos in it?
1:10:50You know, he could have just put a bunch of screenshots in there.
1:10:53Look, I know, but hey, at least he owns it and now it has a problem to deal with.
1:11:02I mean, it's probably, is there a solution to this?
1:11:07No, not even upgrading to...
1:11:08Does he still have that fake child in his iCloud account?
1:11:12Courtney Voorhis, yes.
1:11:16Obviously, she's mentioned in the story that he did a few days ago.
1:11:21Courtney Voorhis is back for the occasion.
1:11:23The fake child that Jon set up years ago to test family sharing that he was never able
1:11:28to delete.
1:11:29And Courtney Voorhis is now part of the extended Voorhis family as an additional child.
1:11:38child now gets access to some previously restricted content for her Apple ID, I believe. So she's
1:11:47growing, you know. Kids these days. Kids these days.
1:11:51That's good news. They grow up so fast.
1:11:54What do you believe in?
1:11:56Oh yeah, there she is, Courtney, age four.
1:11:58Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:12:00Wow.
1:12:01Yeah.
1:12:02That's good. Man, that's going to be following him around for a real long time.
1:12:05Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:12:06I have six more flexes six more. Okay. All right, Apple shows off at least one new max if accessory
1:12:13The a16 is built on a three nanometer process. It's for
1:12:18one nanometer
1:12:21I missed it by this much. That's but it's quite a big much though, right? Like I know it's really mean it's a it's a
1:12:2625% of the process I guess so I don't know how nanometers work. They're small
1:12:31The high-end Apple watch is named Apple watch Pro
1:12:36it's not the Apple watch ultra I love ultra I love the name I love the name
1:12:41too can we talk a little bit about the positioning of this watch for a second
1:12:45Apple's not selling it as this is the nicest watch we make they're selling it
1:12:50as if you do hardcore things you want this hardcore watch and I know on
1:12:56upgrade Myke you and Jason have talked a lot about this about how the narrative
1:13:00over the last couple months has shifted on this watch from extreme sports rock
1:13:04climbing, diving, mountain biking too. It's just the nice watch for people who want
1:13:09more and the way I viewed this and have thought about today is they're selling
1:13:16it as you do extreme sports, you want a watch that can go with you anywhere and
1:13:21will survive anything, this is the Apple Watch for you and I think that's cool.
1:13:25Yes or no Federico? For you? No. No. No. I will say for me, no Steven. I'll let you
1:13:34know September 23rd when mine shows up.
1:13:36- Wow. - So far, yes.
1:13:39- Yeah, so far, yes.
1:13:40So I did not trade in my Series 7
1:13:43because I am concerned about the size.
1:13:45And if it's just too big, I'll just stick with my Series 7,
1:13:48which is also titanium.
1:13:50But yeah, I'm excited to see it.
1:13:53I have a lot of questions about the new button,
1:13:55the action button on the side.
1:13:57- Action.
1:13:58- Action button, they said,
1:14:00or someone said on Twitter from Apple
1:14:01that you can program it to run a shortcut. That's really cool. And
1:14:07you can set it up to move through workouts like that they
1:14:10have the multi sport activities in watch os nine. So if you're
1:14:14doing you know, swimming, biking, skydiving, whatever you
1:14:18string together in your workout, you can move between them. And
1:14:21so I think that's pretty cool. And I thought they gave a pretty
1:14:23good explanation about why the crown is bigger and then the and
1:14:28the side button is there, you know, big and there's a word for
1:14:31that Quinn Nelson said it on Twitter. It's like a is it
1:14:34crown for crown protector on guard, crown guard. And like,
1:14:38yeah, we want you to be able to use it with gloves on. I dig it
1:14:42like I understand why it's that way. And so I'm a little sad.
1:14:45I'm more than a little sad. The series eight doesn't include
1:14:48titanium anymore. Because I really think that's a great,
1:14:50it's a great balance between the aluminum, the weight of the
1:14:53aluminum, and the high end look of the steel and you get the
1:14:57sapphire cover glass, but it weighs way less than the steel.
1:15:03So a little sad that the you know, it seems like the addition
1:15:07has gone. There's no titanium, there's no ceramic, it is
1:15:10stainless and aluminum for the regular Apple Watch Series eight
1:15:15and just titanium and just 49 millimeters for the ultra.
1:15:20There's not even two sizes of the ultra. It's just the big
1:15:23Chunky 49 millimeter case which again I'm a little worried about on my wrist
1:15:28So I'm playing it safe by not trading in my watch yet
1:15:30But if you aren't getting an ultra and again opposition to the group series 8
1:15:36Like do you have any interest in a series 8 watch? I would sit it out. Yeah, I am
1:15:40Yeah, I'm probably am too like a not sure like yeah, I think I just gonna keep the 7 that I have
1:15:46You know
1:15:48I'm not interested in
1:15:50and the 8 for me. I do wanna, I wanna try on the Ultra and just see, like, 'cause it
1:15:57looks cool, but I don't think I'm gonna like it for me, but I still wanna see it.
1:16:03Yes, I do wanna try it. And look, honestly, like, I'm not into anything, you know, adventure
1:16:10or extreme sports-
1:16:11Adventure blogging!
1:16:13No, but that programmable button is cool. Now I don't want to be the guy who buys
1:16:20an Apple Watch Ultra just because it's got a programmable button. But,
1:16:24theoretically, it's a cool feature. It is a cool feature. That's what I'm gonna say.
1:16:28And it looks good in its own way. I like the orange. I like that they put orange
1:16:32on the crown. Me too. I am convinced Steven bought this because it was orange.
1:16:36The orange is cool. I think the bands look cool. What band did you go for? The
1:16:41The bands are great.
1:16:42- Let me go back to the page.
1:16:44I went with the orange Alpine loop.
1:16:46- Yeah, see, I'm gonna,
1:16:47I think I'm gonna buy one of those.
1:16:49Like I'm just gonna buy one of those bands
1:16:50'cause I think they will work on the bigger watches.
1:16:53- They will.
1:16:54So the bands that come with the Ultra, they are more,
1:16:57it's like a hundred bucks a band
1:16:58if you buy them individually,
1:17:00but they will work with the bigger case size that you have.
1:17:03Now, the thing to look out for if you care about this
1:17:06is that the lugs are titanium colored.
1:17:09if not, they may actually be titanium.
1:17:11- Yeah, I know.
1:17:12- So you're gonna have a mismatch with the gold.
1:17:13Some people don't care about that.
1:17:14I've basically given up caring about that,
1:17:17but I am excited about the Alpine loop.
1:17:20If I keep this watch,
1:17:21I probably will also order at some point the Trail loop,
1:17:24which is basically the sports loop,
1:17:26but has a little bit of like an orange fixture on the back
1:17:30if you do the black and gray one.
1:17:32I think that's nice looking.
1:17:33- It has a little pull tab too,
1:17:34so you can easily adjust it as well.
1:17:36- Yeah, I'm excited about it.
1:17:37- I figured you would be.
1:17:38Back to my Flexi, speaking of titanium,
1:17:40the iPhone 14 Pro switches to titanium for the side rails.
1:17:45I still think they maybe could do this in the future,
1:17:47but in hindsight, this design work on this phone
1:17:52was gonna be about the new display.
1:17:55Center stage comes with the iPhone and shocking everyone,
1:18:00lightning is updated to be faster than USB 2.0,
1:18:05did not come to pass.
1:18:07- Hmm, what a surprise.
1:18:08- Shocking. - Shocking.
1:18:09- Hey, we're gonna get to y'all's flexies.
1:18:11You know, don't throw a rock from your flexi glass house,
1:18:14as the proverb says.
1:18:16- Okay, so my flexies, a new iPhone Pro color is purple.
1:18:20- Yes.
1:18:22- Astro photography feature.
1:18:24- No, right?
1:18:26- No.
1:18:26- No, I don't know who put it in green in this one.
1:18:29- Now it's red.
1:18:30Okay. - Thank you.
1:18:32Satellite communication features for iPhone
1:18:35and/or Apple Watch.
1:18:38that happened. Can we talk a little bit about the UI that they've put together for this?
1:18:43It's it seems really, really cool and like well thought out. And they've said they've
1:18:47worked on it for years. And I believe it looking at what they've done. So the the most common
1:18:53way this works. And, you know, I've had friends and family members like go to Africa doing
1:18:59work and you have a satellite phone, but it's really bulky and big and heavy and really
1:19:03expensive. And it has this big external antenna. It's a big mess. And to get around some of
1:19:11that they it's kind of like the find my UI when you have a U one chip, like it gives
1:19:17you an arrows like point your phone at the sky here and then move it you know, this direction
1:19:21as a satellite moves overhead. And they've worked to make the messages smaller because
1:19:25the data throughput is very small. And they even have a little UI where you go through
1:19:30of like, Oh, I have, you know, this sort of emergency, this is going on, it can package
1:19:37all that up and send it and it Apple routes it to the closest emergency services.
1:19:45Some emergency services take text and some places you can like text emergency services
1:19:49like hey, my house is on fire and they like send you a thumbs down emoji and a fire truck
1:19:52emoji and they come put your fire out.
1:19:54A lot of places don't have that.
1:19:57if you if you're in a situation or location where that's not available, it goes to a relay
1:20:01center that Apple has people trained and they will call emergency services on your behalf
1:20:09and be the intermediate between you satellite and emergency services. So really well thought
1:20:16out really cool. Free for the first two years of ownership of the phone. After that, we
1:20:22don't know how much it costs. We don't I think really know about coverage like where this
1:20:27will work and where it won't. They were very adamant like it works best if you have a clear
1:20:31view of the sky. So like don't fall down a cave. This won't save you. But if you break
1:20:36your leg in a field, you'll be okay. So I think it's cool. But I think it's use is going
1:20:41to be really limited and no doubt Apple is going to get letters about the people that
1:20:45saves I think that's really cool. For most people. I don't think this is a reason to
1:20:48go upgrade your phone.
1:20:49you would know if you're already that kind of person.
1:20:52I think so. In fact, I sent this to my brother who I was talking about earlier who has been
1:20:55to Africa several times with a satellite phone. I sent him an article about it. He's like,
1:20:59"Oh, that's really cool. It's one less thing to carry." We will learn more as this unfolds.
1:21:04This is not shipping or not coming at launch. It's coming later in the year, in November
1:21:09maybe. I expect that we'll see some more coverage of this as this feature rolls out.
1:21:15Apple gives a new name to the A15 chip found in the non-Pro iPhones.
1:21:20I thought they'd done this.
1:21:21I was very confused because they referenced the A15 Bionic as found in the Pro phones,
1:21:29even though both phones had the A15 Bionic in them.
1:21:31But the A15 Bionic in the iPhone 14 now has the extra GPU that was in the Pro models.
1:21:39Very slippery the way they talked about this.
1:21:42Yeah, it's odd.
1:21:43I don't like the way that this was positioned in the keynote.
1:21:46- New Apple Watch is a Series 8 watch.
1:21:48Wasn't true.
1:21:50It makes me wonder like how often this would get updated.
1:21:52I wonder if it would be very frequent.
1:21:54We'll see.
1:21:55The Ultra.
1:21:57At least one iPhone model does not have a shipping date
1:21:59of September 16th.
1:22:01I got that one right.
1:22:02October 7th for the Plus, right?
1:22:04- Yeah.
1:22:05- The sacrificial iPhone.
1:22:07- Or they think it,
1:22:08maybe they think it's gonna be really popular
1:22:10and so they want, I don't know.
1:22:11I'm curious as to why that's the one.
1:22:14- I have a theory.
1:22:15- Okay.
1:22:16- There are part shortages and they just chose
1:22:18to prioritize the other phones
1:22:21because they're phones that replacing system phones
1:22:23in a lineup.
1:22:24- Yeah, maybe.
1:22:25- The plus doesn't replace anything
1:22:27so they can launch it a little bit later.
1:22:29Where am I?
1:22:31Seven.
1:22:31Someone is wearing the new Apple Watch
1:22:33while riding a skateboard.
1:22:34I cannot describe how much I was hoping this would happen,
1:22:38but it didn't happen.
1:22:39And that montage of people doing hardcore things,
1:22:42I was like, we're gonna get it.
1:22:43We're gonna get a clip of a dude on a skateboard.
1:22:45- No, you see, skateboarding wasn't hardcore enough.
1:22:48Sorry, skateboarders.
1:22:49But compared to the other things that were happening,
1:22:51you know, it was like--
1:22:52- Get a real hobby.
1:22:53- That's not what I'm saying at all.
1:22:54But it just didn't feel like it was extreme enough, I guess.
1:22:59- Did y'all notice the detail that Tim Cook
1:23:02had a regular Apple Watch on,
1:23:03and after the Ultra was announced, he was wearing an Ultra?
1:23:06- Yes.
1:23:06- Yes.
1:23:07by the way Tim Cook jacked his arms are huge yeah swole he always skips leg day
1:23:13like everybody else oh I don't know about that I haven't seen his legs but I
1:23:17could see his arms today and big arms you know think Tim Cook is a
1:23:23big shorts guy probably not I can't imagine he is no I think it has to take
1:23:28a lot for maybe he wears shorts when he works out but maybe that's it
1:23:33maybe no I think he wears a suit when he works like he dresses up more is this
1:23:37CEO is the CEO but the only time he wears a suit is if he's in front of
1:23:41Congress or he's with Donald Trump I mean or at the G when he's working out
1:23:45yeah or when he's working out yeah look it's it's likely what do you know anyway
1:23:49you don't go to the same gym when he's making macros by hand in Texas he's in
1:23:54a suit we do not see John Ternus which is always a shame he wasn't there no
1:24:00trailers for Apple TV plus content there was a severance cameo but no trailer
1:24:06Yeah.
1:24:06And Tim Cook says good morning, which he did.
1:24:08He did say that.
1:24:09[DING]
1:24:11He did.
1:24:12That's really good, Myke.
1:24:13It's really good.
1:24:14That's actually pretty good, right?
1:24:15I'm happy I added those three at the end.
1:24:16So thank you for encouraging me to do that, Steven.
1:24:19Very nice.
1:24:20When I was looking at this document earlier,
1:24:22grading some stuff, I was like, oh, man,
1:24:24like Myke's editions did so well.
1:24:26It's annoying.
1:24:27Well, because they're stupid.
1:24:28They're stupid.
1:24:29That's why.
1:24:30But I was encouraged by your late gaming.
1:24:35All right, Federico Vatici, you are up.
1:24:37And number one on the always on lock screen for iPhone 14 Pro, you see notifications in
1:24:42count mode. This is not correct because you see them. You see them in the regular mode.
1:24:50Like it doesn't force you to use count mode. Not a point.
1:24:55I am not always on.
1:24:56Yes.
1:24:57Number two.
1:24:58Faster.
1:25:02Number two faster magsafe charging in at least one of the new iPhones
1:25:07Number three iOS 16 is released on Monday September 12. Yes
1:25:11It's coming out on Monday. My review will be ready
1:25:14Number four at least one new watch OS feature or app is introduced alongside the new Apple watch
1:25:21Yeah, you got the planning of things here. You got all the Apple watch ultra
1:25:27you got the temperature sensing, a bunch of things.
1:25:30It's got its own watch faces.
1:25:32That GPS thing where it can show you where you've been.
1:25:34Dual GPS.
1:25:36And the waypoint mode where it like,
1:25:38it sets your trail and you're like, that's super cool.
1:25:41That's so cool.
1:25:42That's coming to other watches.
1:25:43That is in watchOS 9 apparently, not just the Ultra.
1:25:48Me too.
1:25:49We've all been in a situation where you're in a city
1:25:52with tall buildings and your phone doesn't know
1:25:55where you are.
1:25:55And it's really frustrating if you're, say, you know,
1:25:59say you're from the South,
1:26:00you don't live in a big city.
1:26:02Sometimes you go to a big city for work
1:26:03and you get lost and get scared, hypothetically.
1:26:06(laughing)
1:26:08- You get scared?
1:26:09- You get scared, yeah.
1:26:10- Number five, "Ted Lasso" season three trailer.
1:26:15Now, number six and number seven,
1:26:16as we feared, we are unable to judge them right now.
1:26:23I may be correct, I may be incorrect,
1:26:26but because we are unable to publicly verify them,
1:26:29unless something happens in the next 30 seconds,
1:26:34we will have to deem these incorrect.
1:26:37So if you wanna save me, now's your moment.
1:26:42- You have until the end of the sentence.
1:26:43- Yeah.
1:26:44Number six, there will be a system filter
1:26:47for the always on display in focus.
1:26:51This is the idea that in focus mode in iOS 16,
1:26:54you can have app filters to hide content
1:26:57and system filters to set system behaviors.
1:27:00On the iPhone 13, you can set dark mode,
1:27:03you can set low power mode.
1:27:05My idea is that you could set always on display on and off.
1:27:08But the thing is, we don't even know at the moment
1:27:10if you can turn off the always on display.
1:27:15- It's always on.
1:27:16Oh, worldwide.
1:27:17- And I checked, yeah, always on.
1:27:20I checked all the YouTube hands-on videos I could find.
1:27:24I checked all the Twitter videos I could find.
1:27:27Nobody opened settings for the always-on display.
1:27:30Why are you doing this to me?
1:27:32Why do you hate me?
1:27:33People who go to Apple events and don't open settings.
1:27:36Or don't ask these questions.
1:27:38Are you on Myke's payroll?
1:27:40Did Myke pay you not to open settings
1:27:42so that I could lose this point?
1:27:44- That's how I roll.
1:27:45- We'll never know.
1:27:46- It's been an expensive day for me.
1:27:48I've had a lot of YouTubers to pay off.
1:27:49They're not cheap.
1:27:51I know, I know.
1:27:52But you are in that scene, so it wouldn't surprise me.
1:27:55Am I?
1:27:57Numbers, yeah, you kind of are--
1:27:59The scene of collusion.
1:28:01Well, obviously, you are not new to collusion,
1:28:04and you are also in that scene, and fancy people with cameras
1:28:08and all that.
1:28:09Number seven, you will be able to control which data types
1:28:15to show on the Always On Lock screen.
1:28:17Again, my idea is this is going to be just like on the Apple Watch, where you can literally
1:28:21go into Settings and say "Disable Fantastical" or "Disable Reminders", whatever, to show you
1:28:28data in Always On mode.
1:28:31I'm guessing there will be this setting, but then again, I cannot verify it at the moment.
1:28:37I installed the simulator.
1:28:39The simulator doesn't have these settings, so there's no way for me to check.
1:28:44I may be correct, eventually.
1:28:46I may be... what's the word for it?
1:28:48For when they do something after you die posthumously?
1:28:52- Posthumously, yeah. - Correct?
1:28:53Yeah.
1:28:55I will be that eventually.
1:28:57- We will provide follow-up if in the future you...
1:29:01You know, so you can at least save face, you know?
1:29:04- Number eight.
1:29:05The new big non-pro iPhone is called iPhone 14 Plus.
1:29:10(bell dings)
1:29:10- That's a good pick.
1:29:11- Yeah, that's a good pick.
1:29:12- Good pick.
1:29:13- Number nine, the real surprise here for me.
1:29:16Bands for the new Apple Watch "Pro", in this case called Ultra, are not backward compatible
1:29:23with other Apple Watches. Turns out they kinda are. I believe you can put them on the 45?
1:29:32Yeah.
1:29:33Yeah. 42, 44, and 45. So, I mean, yeah.
1:29:39Well, they'll go on, I think, the 42, but it's not gonna look good.
1:29:42I mean...
1:29:43because I'm sure it will stick out over the edges, but you can do it if you really want to.
1:29:48I think the big thing here is that the lugs work, and yeah, like the band itself may look a little
1:29:54silly, but I don't think the lugs will stick out. I think the lugs will be flush.
1:29:58We are to number 10. We do not see AirPods Max 2.
1:30:02I love that you had a flexi against his Ricky. I just like that bit of gamesmanship.
1:30:09Yeah, yeah, thank you.
1:30:11Number 11 is up for debate.
1:30:13It's orange in the document right now.
1:30:15The pick says, "Apple introduces new Fitness+ workouts."
1:30:20They put out a press release just for Fitness+,
1:30:24and a bunch of changes that are coming.
1:30:26It's gonna be available in 21 countries later this fall,
1:30:29and they are launching new workouts.
1:30:33Now--
1:30:34What are they?
1:30:36The same, so I'm quoting the price release.
1:30:39Fitness+ will also launch the latest RT Spotlight series
1:30:42with workouts featuring the music of Mary J. Blige,
1:30:45the Rolling Stones, and The Weeknd.
1:30:47Additionally, Fitness+ will debut its newest collection,
1:30:50Pilates for More Than Your Core,
1:30:52and expand its team of world-class trainers
1:30:55by introducing the Unoaga trainer,
1:30:57Dice Ida Klein, I'm guessing that's the name.
1:31:01- Well, I mean, this is the question,
1:31:02is like, what's a workout?
1:31:04because like that clauses of an existing type, right?
1:31:08- Right, so I think--
1:31:10- My wording here is pretty generic.
1:31:12- It is, and I think that's why you get it.
1:31:15I think if you had said new fitness plus workout types,
1:31:18you would not get it.
1:31:20But I think your vagueness lets you get it.
1:31:22- I'm pretty sure that I was vague on purpose
1:31:25when I said it. - Probably.
1:31:26- Because I know that they do like,
1:31:27what's the name of the thing where you run
1:31:30and you listen to--
1:31:31- Time to walk, time to run.
1:31:33- Yeah, that thing.
1:31:34I said Tim Cook says good morning, so I'm not particularly gonna fight.
1:31:37I just give it to you.
1:31:39I think we give it to you.
1:31:40Yes.
1:31:41Yeah.
1:31:42Also, it won't matter because I'm gonna still lose, but just for...
1:31:45Nah, well, not as bad as others of us.
1:31:48Who loses most is the...
1:31:51That's the real game of the flexies.
1:31:52It's coming down to the wire probably here.
1:31:55Number 12, the real tragedy.
1:31:56Wait, this is 11, right?
1:31:58This is...
1:31:59Wait.
1:32:00Yeah, it's 11.
1:32:01An extra number got added here.
1:32:0211.
1:32:03- Did it seem flexy?
1:32:04- No, I think you had 11,
1:32:06unless something just got deleted.
1:32:07- Let me check an outside source, hang on.
1:32:10- What up?
1:32:11- All right, so you had always on lock screen,
1:32:15faster mag safe.
1:32:17- No, that you, no, you did it.
1:32:19- I had 12, I had 12 guys.
1:32:21- Where does it go?
1:32:22- Let me run through what Rickys.co has, okay?
1:32:25Always on lock screen, you see the count mode.
1:32:29Faster mag safe charging.
1:32:32- Yeah.
1:32:3316 release date, at least one new watch OS feature, Ted lasso season three, there
1:32:39will be a system filter for always on display and focus. You will be able to
1:32:43control what data types are on the always on lock screen, the iPhone 14 plus,
1:32:49Apple watch pro bands, AirPods Max 2, Apple introduces new Fitness Plus
1:32:56workouts, Tony Hawk. Well then why does it say 11 in your document? Because
1:33:02Stephen messed something up. There you go, it's fixed now. There we go, fixed it. Just a formatting issue.
1:33:06All right. Thank you. So number 12, Tony Hawk will make an appearance at the event. Worst news. I am
1:33:13appalled at this
1:33:15tragedy here. It was a tragedy because then we both would have got one, wouldn't we? Because Tony Hawk could have come out,
1:33:21he would have been riding a skateboard. Obviously. It would have been better even than the island thing.
1:33:27Yeah. It's the only thing that could have overshadowed
1:33:30dynamic island is Tony Hawk. Now this is coming down to a math calculation here. So
1:33:39obviously Myke is the winner of the flexes. He is. Thank you. Congratulations Myke. Prince
1:33:45Flexington. I've done the math. You've done three out of ten and I've done four out of twelve.
1:33:53Wait, five out of twelve. Five. One, two, three, four, five out of twelve. You've got to do the
1:34:00the math. So Myke got six out of ten that's 60%. Federico got five out of
1:34:07twelve that's 41.7%. I got three out of ten that is 30%. So it is Myke and then
1:34:18Federico and then me. Okay, all right. So how much money do you need to donate?
1:34:23Well it's $25 per wrong pick and I have seven wrong picks that is a hundred
1:34:30hundred seventy five dollars okay mm-hmm I would like you to donate mm-hmm
1:34:36specifically to the sub campaign for st. Jude dog slash relay of the connected
1:34:47informatic wiki verse for st. Jude okay this is put together by Jason who does
1:34:53was Wikipedia and this will get them past their milestone
1:34:58that they'd set to add an API for Wikipedia.
1:35:03- Amazing, amazing.
1:35:05- $175, I'm putting my email address in here.
1:35:08Display name, Steven Hackett is the flexi's loser.
1:35:12- Yeah.
1:35:12- I am, all right, so next I'll take a sticker pack.
1:35:17(laughing)
1:35:20- Do you need one?
1:35:22- All right, so let me put my debit card in here.
1:35:24- Can you give us your debit card number, please?
1:35:26- Yeah, if you just read it out,
1:35:28I'll make sure that Jason has it.
1:35:30- Yeah, that's how you do it.
1:35:32Don't you know it's a trend on podcasts these days
1:35:36to give out your card number publicly?
1:35:38- All right, I've donated $175
1:35:41to the Connected Infomatic Wikiverse
1:35:43for St. Jude campaign.
1:35:45- Wonderful.
1:35:46- I have a suggestion.
1:35:48- Oh.
1:35:49- In the spirit of September.
1:35:51No, but then what did I win for?
1:35:53Oh, that's on your conscience, really.
1:35:55I'm donating, don't you worry.
1:35:57I've made donations and I'll continue to make donations.
1:36:00Okay, well there we go.
1:36:01$175 off to a great cause.
1:36:04If you look at this exact thing,
1:36:06I've already donated $100 to this exact sub campaign.
1:36:09Go make your own donation, stjude.org/relay.
1:36:14We'd love to have your support.
1:36:16We'll be talking about this all September.
1:36:18Before we go, Myke,
1:36:19Tell people what we're doing next Friday.
1:36:21- Oh my gosh, yes.
1:36:23September 16th from 12 to 8 p.m.
1:36:27US Eastern time at twitch.tv/relayfm
1:36:31is the fourth annual podcastathon for St. Jude.
1:36:36Federico is gonna join us for a segment.
1:36:38I will pre-announce for connected listeners,
1:36:42there will be a quiz.
1:36:43The quizzes will be making their way to the podcastathon.
1:36:49I have already got my quizzes.
1:36:51I will let you know in advance.
1:36:53I'm not gonna tell you what it is,
1:36:54but if you remember one of the rounds that I did
1:36:56that you really enjoyed,
1:36:58I think from one of the original quizzes
1:36:59was a fill in the blanks round.
1:37:02- Oh yeah.
1:37:03- Right?
1:37:04I'm bringing back a fill in the blanks round.
1:37:06- Oh boy.
1:37:07- To the podcast-a-thon.
1:37:08So twitch.tv/relayfm, September 16th
1:37:12from 12 to 8 p.m. US Eastern Time.
1:37:16Twitch.tv/relayfm, I said that already.
1:37:18The fourth annual podcast with on for St. Jude broadcasting live from the
1:37:23St. Jude campus in Memphis, Tennessee.
1:37:25If you want to find links to stuff we spoke about this week, head on over to
1:37:29the website, relay.fm/connected/414.
1:37:34Uh, while you're there, go donate stjude.org/relay.
1:37:39You can find us all on Twitter.
1:37:41You can find Federico as Vittici, V I T I C C I.
1:37:45He of course is the editor in chief of max stories.net.
1:37:48Be sure to check out his Iowa 16 review on the 12th.
1:37:53So that it's going to be awesome.
1:37:55I'm sure we'll be talking about that very soon.
1:37:57You can follow Myke on Twitter as I M Y K E Myke and I will be in person and just
1:38:02a few days, and we're going to be doing some live streaming as we've unlocked
1:38:06actually a couple now milestones on the, uh, the St Jude fundraising.
1:38:11So, uh, we'll be sure to announce that in discord and on Twitter, we're not quite
1:38:15sure when they're going to be, but we will keep everyone posted on that.
1:38:18You can follow me on Twitter.
1:38:20We're gonna, we're gonna, I think for the third time, take apart my iPod classic.
1:38:24Yes.
1:38:25In fact, it was told to me just today that we had that as two separate
1:38:28milestones, so I combined them into one.
1:38:30What?
1:38:32Yeah, I don't know.
1:38:33Yeah.
1:38:33They're like, oh, you hit this one, but you didn't hit it yet.
1:38:35I was like, oh, that's in there twice.
1:38:36Okay.
1:38:36Just fix that.
1:38:37Uh, you can follow me on Twitter as ISMH.
1:38:40I write over at 512 pixels.net.
1:38:43Uh, I'll say on Mac power users, the episode is going to come out a couple of
1:38:46days.
1:38:46We're going to talk about a bunch about Iowa 16.
1:38:48So, and it'll be a nice thing to go along with Federico's much better in depth
1:38:53review.
1:38:54So, uh, check all that stuff out.
1:38:56Uh, thanks to our sponsors for making this episode possible.
1:38:59They are Squarespace hover and Bombas.
1:39:02And until next week, guys say goodbye.
1:39:05I'll do that.
1:39:06You Jerry.
1:39:07Oh, bye y'all.