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00:00:02 ◼   ► Hello and welcome to Connected, episode 349.

00:00:13 ◼   ► It's made possible this week by our sponsors,

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00:00:20 ◼   ► My name is Steven Hackett and I'm joined

00:00:21 ◼   ► by Mr. Federico Vittucci.

00:00:23 ◼   ► - Hello. - That's not right.

00:00:25 ◼   ► It's Myke. - What did you call him?

00:00:27 ◼   ► I like, I tried changing to Myke mid-word,

00:00:30 ◼   ► but then I couldn't.

00:00:31 ◼   ► Very peculiar.

00:00:32 ◼   ► So actually, Myke, you're first.

00:00:34 ◼   ► Myke, hello.

00:00:35 ◼   ► What up, what up, deck daddy?

00:00:36 ◼   ► That's right.

00:00:38 ◼   ► Back with the deck attack.

00:00:39 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:00:41 ◼   ► Federico, how are you?

00:00:44 ◼   ► Federico.

00:00:46 ◼   ► Feder-a-Myke-ico.

00:00:48 ◼   ► Yes, it's me, Federico, yes.

00:00:52 ◼   ► That's me.

00:00:54 ◼   ► This is a good start for you today.

00:00:56 ◼   ► - Hey, it's only gonna get better.

00:00:58 ◼   ► - Yeah, it only can, right?

00:01:01 ◼   ► - Yes, today we are judging our WWDC 21 picks.

00:01:07 ◼   ► We call this the Ricky's, it's a whole game we play.

00:01:12 ◼   ► If this is your first episode of Connected,

00:01:14 ◼   ► they're not usually like this.

00:01:15 ◼   ► That's not true, they're usually--

00:01:18 ◼   ► - Honestly, over the last year,

00:01:19 ◼   ► they've been like this a lot, honestly.

00:01:21 ◼   ► They just keep, you know.

00:01:23 ◼   ► If this is your first episode of Connected, I guess go back two episodes and then catch up and you'll probably get your head around it. Maybe.

00:01:31 ◼   ► You've got some follow-up is what we do at the beginning of the show.

00:01:34 ◼   ► And we have a couple more listener projects. Let's call them that.

00:01:41 ◼   ► The first comes from Ellen in the Relay FM members Discord.

00:01:46 ◼   ► They have made a

00:01:48 ◼   ► Crocheted I think that's the right term

00:01:51 ◼   ► crocheted Ricky

00:01:54 ◼   ► weird fish oh

00:01:55 ◼   ► My god, it's it's a mascot. We now have a mascot

00:02:00 ◼   ► Oh, I thought this is like a photo that you shared with us from Etsy or something. Do you know?

00:02:06 ◼   ► Nope, Ellen in the discord made this incredible. She has confirmed. It is crocheted. I'm glad I got that right

00:02:12 ◼   ► I'll just say this, Ellen, if you're open to commission, I think we would all want one.

00:02:18 ◼   ► We all want one. Yeah, so if you could just make one for each of us and we'll pay you, that would be amazing.

00:02:24 ◼   ► Yep, so send me a direct message in Discord, Ellen, and we'll make that happen.

00:02:28 ◼   ► We all want one. I want to put it on my desk. I want to look at it all the time.

00:02:34 ◼   ► So thank you very much, Ellen, for that. We also have a listener project.

00:02:39 ◼   ► If you go to apple.com/iPadOS/iPadOSreview

00:02:44 ◼   ► and you scroll down to the all new widgets section,

00:02:49 ◼   ► it says find my contacts, Game Center, App Store, and Mail

00:02:52 ◼   ► all have new widgets.

00:02:54 ◼   ► And many widgets now come in the new larger size.

00:02:57 ◼   ► And if you look at the Game Center widget

00:03:00 ◼   ► in the bottom right, tell me that's not Federica Vittucci.

00:03:03 ◼   ► - It looks a lot like Federica.

00:03:07 ◼   ► There's a, there's also like a, like a, like a Rome reference in there because it says

00:03:14 ◼   ► like that person is playing Dead Cells, which I mean, obviously it's a fantastic game that

00:03:20 ◼   ► I love, but it also says as the username Ines of March and it's the way that it's spelled,

00:03:28 ◼   ► like it, it's a pun on the Ides of March, obviously when Julius Caesar was murdered.

00:03:35 ◼   ► So I don't know, somebody showed us this photo on Twitter, I don't think it's, I think that's

00:03:43 ◼   ► just like the stereotypical Italian guy, if I were to guess.

00:03:48 ◼   ► It's a me!

00:03:49 ◼   ► You know, with the mustache and the long hair and...

00:03:53 ◼   ► Fred the Rico!

00:03:56 ◼   ► You know, but fun reference for sure, like the the Ides of March, that is pretty fun.

00:04:03 ◼   ► What was the other thing that you showed up in? It was a CarPlay thing.

00:04:07 ◼   ► It was in a car. But we know that was him because the person who made it contacted us

00:04:12 ◼   ► and said that.

00:04:13 ◼   ► Yes, and it was his name. The CarPlay notification came down and said...

00:04:18 ◼   ► Oh, on the BMW website? No, it was not BMW.

00:04:21 ◼   ► It was Cadillac or something.

00:04:22 ◼   ► I think it was Cadillac.

00:04:23 ◼   ► Cadillac, yes, yes. And the person who made it was a connected listener, I believe. That

00:04:28 ◼   ► was years ago.

00:04:29 ◼   ► Because it was like a text message from you in CarPlay.

00:04:32 ◼   ► So like your name, your name came up.

00:04:35 ◼   ► So two very good listener projects this week, thank you all.

00:04:39 ◼   ► Also we're just saying that it's a listener project, okay, sure.

00:04:43 ◼   ► There's no other alternative in my mind.

00:04:45 ◼   ► Myke, tell us about this feature in photos and this topic we spoke about several weeks

00:04:50 ◼   ► ago.

00:04:51 ◼   ► Yeah, I think it was episode 340 something, where we had like a...

00:04:59 ◼   ► It was the last time that we did the Jeremy's episode.

00:05:03 ◼   ► It was 340, right?

00:05:07 ◼   ► Where we had a long conversation focused around Lauren Goode's article about memories in photos

00:05:15 ◼   ► and the way that our devices love to remind us of things now.

00:05:18 ◼   ► And we wanted more control over what our devices and the Photos app and widgets and stuff would

00:05:25 ◼   ► show.

00:05:26 ◼   ► And it seems like I thought that Apple were going to talk about this in the keynote, but

00:05:29 ◼   ► they didn't and then I was disappointed because I thought that they hadn't added it.

00:05:33 ◼   ► But this is one of those many, many things that came out afterwards, which is that now

00:05:38 ◼   ► you're able to tell photos if you want to see less of a specified date, place, holiday

00:05:43 ◼   ► or person in featured photos, the widget or memories.

00:05:47 ◼   ► And the way you do this is just, you know, you when you see something you don't like,

00:05:52 ◼   ► long press on it in the photos app and you can say see less and it will then give you

00:05:56 ◼   ► some options.

00:05:57 ◼   ► Like so you can tap it and it will say like see less of this person, see less of this

00:06:02 ◼   ► date, etc etc.

00:06:04 ◼   ► I've only personally came across this with people.

00:06:10 ◼   ► I haven't come across this myself with date and place and stuff like that.

00:06:16 ◼   ► But it looks like it is in or will be in iOS 15.

00:06:20 ◼   ► I just think is really great. As we said, I think it is a responsibility thing from

00:06:24 ◼   ► these platforms. If they're going to use our information, our data, our memories,

00:06:30 ◼   ► like weaponize our memories to try and make us feel better about the devices,

00:06:35 ◼   ► then we should also have some control over the stuff that we don't want to see.

00:06:39 ◼   ► When the news first broke that it was in there, what was initially reported is you

00:06:43 ◼   ► could just tell it to do it less. I was like, well that's halfway there. But yeah,

00:06:47 ◼   ► I'm glad they listened. I mean, yeah, it's weird

00:06:49 ◼   ► It starts with less and then you got once you do that you then get a bunch of options

00:06:54 ◼   ► Okay, it's worded strangely because it's like see this person less but then when you tap it brings you to another page

00:07:01 ◼   ► Okay, where it gives you more options, which I think is a kind of strange way to

00:07:06 ◼   ► Word it. Maybe it will change. I don't know but I think I tried it out by sending

00:07:12 ◼   ► I think I sent you a picture where I chose Stephen,

00:07:15 ◼   ► Celeste Stephen, and then changed my mind,

00:07:18 ◼   ► because who wouldn't want to see Stephen Hackett?

00:07:20 ◼   ► - So I tried this for a group photo

00:07:23 ◼   ► that I also pasted into Discord,

00:07:24 ◼   ► and when I go into the people selection screen,

00:07:27 ◼   ► I see Myke's face, I see John's face,

00:07:30 ◼   ► I see my face even though I'm, okay, I'm in the photo,

00:07:33 ◼   ► but for Stephen, it's just a gray box with no face.

00:07:38 ◼   ► - Sounds about right.

00:07:40 ◼   ► Well, did you delete him after he confessed to not having any album of you?

00:07:46 ◼   ► No, never. Never.

00:07:47 ◼   ► So, when I just added again, I go on to Steven, I say I don't want to see him. It says, "feature

00:07:52 ◼   ► this person less or never feature this person." And you can choose and confirm. This is after

00:07:57 ◼   ► you go into the see this person less. So, there's stuff there. I'm pleased that they're

00:08:01 ◼   ► adding features like this. I think this is really great.

00:08:04 ◼   ► Apple Music with lossless and spatial audio. I still have yet come up with... I think I wrote this down.

00:08:10 ◼   ► I don't know what to call this feature completely.

00:08:14 ◼   ► Oh, it's easy. No, it's easy.

00:08:16 ◼   ► Lassa. Lossless and spatial audio.

00:08:19 ◼   ► Okay. But also... I hate that.

00:08:22 ◼   ► Lassa?

00:08:23 ◼   ► Lassa? Like NASA?

00:08:24 ◼   ► I don't want to give it a nickname, right? Nicknames are bad.

00:08:27 ◼   ► Okay, Mykey.

00:08:28 ◼   ► Because it's also... the spatial audio thing is also Dolby Atmos.

00:08:32 ◼   ► Right, so it's like these things are so... all the words are complicated.

00:08:37 ◼   ► It's a lot of words.

00:08:38 ◼   ► But it started rolling out, it's now available.

00:08:41 ◼   ► We have a limited, more limited than I was expecting, library of stuff.

00:08:47 ◼   ► But I have noticed in the last couple of days, new things are being added,

00:08:52 ◼   ► new songs, new albums, that kind of stuff.

00:08:55 ◼   ► I had today found Abbey Road mixed in Dolby Atmos, which was really good.

00:09:02 ◼   ► Come Together by The Beatles, right?

00:09:03 ◼   ► It's everywhere by The Beatles.

00:09:04 ◼   ► It was just, that's a really, really great

00:09:06 ◼   ► special audio mix.

00:09:09 ◼   ► I absolutely adore this feature.

00:09:12 ◼   ► I love it.

00:09:13 ◼   ► I think it's fantastic.

00:09:14 ◼   ► I've been listening on my AirPods Pro

00:09:16 ◼   ► and I have been listening on my AirPods Max.

00:09:19 ◼   ► The first song that I tried out was

00:09:21 ◼   ► Blinding Lights by The Weeknd,

00:09:22 ◼   ► which was, I expected would be a song

00:09:25 ◼   ► that would be a good candidate,

00:09:27 ◼   ► and it was for me.

00:09:28 ◼   ► And it gave me that thing that we were talking about before

00:09:30 ◼   ► that was what I was looking for out of this is I could hear little parts of the music

00:09:34 ◼   ► that I didn't really hear before and that was what I was looking for because to me that

00:09:38 ◼   ► kind of denotes a special experience when it comes to listening to music this way. And

00:09:43 ◼   ► there's just more kind of separation like it feels like the instruments and the elements

00:09:48 ◼   ► of the music are kind of all around me they move around a little bit but not in a way

00:09:52 ◼   ► that I felt was really distracting. It's kind of like it feels like you know when we have

00:09:59 ◼   ► a very good stereo mix you can hear some separation and some of the stuff that's going on you

00:10:04 ◼   ► know like sometimes you're doing some music and something just happens in your left ear

00:10:08 ◼   ► right it's kind of like that on steroids like i don't find it distracting but what i notice

00:10:14 ◼   ► is that i feel like they should say on stereo stereo that's what i should you know what

00:10:19 ◼   ► i should say that i'm sorry i'm turning into steven and i hate it i'm sorry i heard i heard

00:10:24 ◼   ► what you said on App Stories. Oh no you did? Yeah about the Mac being a catalyst for change

00:10:31 ◼   ► and shortcuts. So proud of you. So sorry. I think it makes a lot of sense now that I've

00:10:41 ◼   ► listened to this why Apple's just enabling this because I don't think that it is this

00:10:46 ◼   ► why like so this it's not as as distracting I think as when with video where it sounds

00:10:53 ◼   ► like it's happening in a certain place, right?

00:10:56 ◼   ► Because with spatial audio, when you're watching something

00:10:59 ◼   ► on your iPad, like a video on your iPad,

00:11:01 ◼   ► it feels like the audio is just coming from wherever

00:11:04 ◼   ► the iPad's located.

00:11:05 ◼   ► And this isn't like that.

00:11:07 ◼   ► It still feels like it's just music

00:11:09 ◼   ► you're listening to as normal.

00:11:11 ◼   ► Now, with iOS 15, if you are looking at a device,

00:11:14 ◼   ► it does actually do a little bit of this.

00:11:16 ◼   ► I was playing around with my iPad.

00:11:18 ◼   ► If you have the iPad open on the Music app,

00:11:20 ◼   ► it does have a little bit more panning,

00:11:22 ◼   ► where you move your head left or right and it seems like the music is still coming from

00:11:25 ◼   ► a central place. But if you lock the iPad that actually fades away which I thought was

00:11:29 ◼   ► quite interesting. So they're kind of mixing that around. I don't know what it's going

00:11:34 ◼   ► to be like in 15. Some songs sound better than others. It feels like more modern stuff

00:11:39 ◼   ► is better and I guess that that might be the difference between recording with this in

00:11:43 ◼   ► mind rather than just mixing something after the fact. I really love it. The vocals are

00:11:50 ◼   ► interesting in some songs like I found like vocals to be quieter but then the

00:11:55 ◼   ► song overall feels like it has a lot more depth something that I recommend

00:11:59 ◼   ► people try doing you know you can be listening to one of these songs with

00:12:04 ◼   ► with spatial audio and if you go into control center and hold down on the

00:12:08 ◼   ► volume you can turn off spatial audio and then you can hear the difference

00:12:14 ◼   ► right and how the song is presented and it really does sound very different so I

00:12:18 ◼   ► I really love this feature. I want all of the music that I love to be available to me in Dolby Atmos now.

00:12:25 ◼   ► I think it's absolutely fantastic. I'm super excited about it.

00:12:28 ◼   ► I genuinely like it. It gave me everything I wanted and more.

00:12:31 ◼   ► I think this is an absolutely fantastic feature and they nailed it with this.

00:12:35 ◼   ► I'm a little more torn on it. So I'm gonna say I think it's a fun feature.

00:12:42 ◼   ► And I think if done well, it definitely makes for a good demo for all kinds of people going

00:12:50 ◼   ► beyond audio files.

00:12:52 ◼   ► It's the kind of thing that a lot of people can easily understand, which is great.

00:12:58 ◼   ► And I think surround sound for music, if done well, can be amazing.

00:13:04 ◼   ► So some first impressions that I have on spatial audio, I think when it's applied judiciously,

00:13:13 ◼   ► I guess, to songs, it can be a great effect.

00:13:19 ◼   ► And it's fun, and you get this bigger soundstage, you get this instrument separation that you

00:13:26 ◼   ► mentioned, and you can hear these details, not just left and right, but sort of like

00:13:34 ◼   ► more a 360 type deal, which is like it can be back and to the left, or you know, you can feel it,

00:13:42 ◼   ► you know, forward and, you know, up and to the right. Like, you can... This precise positioning

00:13:49 ◼   ► that you can get, definitely fun sometimes. Other times, the mixes are built all over the place.

00:13:57 ◼   ► There's a couple of stories that were published today, one on the verge by Chris Welch and another

00:14:03 ◼   ► by Matt Burchler on Birch Tree that I would like to link in the show notes. I think I feel like some

00:14:13 ◼   ► tracks, I don't know if it's because like those were old songs that were not recorded with Dolby

00:14:19 ◼   ► Atmos in mind, but just mixed in Atmos. Maybe that's the issue, but I feel like I'm listening

00:14:29 ◼   ► into those songs and I remembered the originals well, and I'm like, "What happened here?"

00:14:34 ◼   ► Right? So you listen to "What's My Age Again" by Blink-182, and the vocals are completely

00:14:40 ◼   ► muffled. And the instruments are super loud, and just the vocals, they sound like they're

00:14:47 ◼   ► coming from a doorbell microphone or something. And I'm like, "Have you recorded this with

00:14:53 ◼   ► voice memos on your iPhone, or like, it sounds totally different. You listen to "Gotta Have

00:15:00 ◼   ► It" by Kanye West and Jay-Z, and the instruments are super loud and the vocals basically disappear.

00:15:09 ◼   ► But then you listen to "Black Skinhead" also by Kanye West.

00:15:13 ◼   ► Oh my god, it's so good.

00:15:15 ◼   ► So that's where I think it's polarizing, right? Because some people, like, you remember the

00:15:19 ◼   ► original and you listen to the utmost mix and you're like okay this is very

00:15:23 ◼   ► different in places but it's fun like if you're not a purists of that I'm happy

00:15:31 ◼   ► you said that because I was gonna say this I think I think it's very clear

00:15:34 ◼   ► interested in our previous conversations you are much more of a music purist than

00:15:38 ◼   ► me right and I think I'm way more forgiving of like this doesn't seem like

00:15:45 ◼   ► the original, right? Right. And in Black Skinhead, there's some very specific background screams

00:15:53 ◼   ► in the songs, like the "ahh" the thing that you hear in the background. And in the original

00:15:58 ◼   ► song, yes, "ahh!" Like that.

00:16:03 ◼   ► [Music]

00:16:05 ◼   ► I mean, you put on Black Skin and it's totally like that. But in the Atmos mix, you can...

00:16:17 ◼   ► like they were very specifically panned to the left and to the right and then to the

00:16:21 ◼   ► back, right? And you can totally hear what they've done with the Atmos version. In the

00:16:27 ◼   ► original version, they are in a stereo mix, obviously, and you can hear where the... in

00:16:34 ◼   ► the stereo mix they are, it's just not that strong, not that obvious, right? Which brings

00:16:41 ◼   ► me to sort of my bigger point here. I feel like if you are the kind of person who can

00:16:49 ◼   ► listen to music with, you know, with good equipment, this bigger soundstage and this,

00:16:55 ◼   ► know, polished separation between different instruments. Like, I can hear the guitar,

00:17:00 ◼   ► and I can hear the drums, and I can hear, you know, maybe there's a sax line somewhere.

00:17:06 ◼   ► Like that you can already get with good headphones, right? And so for these tests, I just sat

00:17:14 ◼   ► down and I listened to the utmost mix of the same song, and, you know, the song on my Walkman

00:17:20 ◼   ► that I own in lossless format with my Sony headphones.

00:17:24 ◼   ► With my Sony headphones, unlike listening with AirPods Pro

00:17:28 ◼   ► or regular AirPods, I can hear the bigger soundstage.

00:17:32 ◼   ► I can hear that the song is more open,

00:17:37 ◼   ► for lack of a better word,

00:17:38 ◼   ► and I can hear the instruments more clearly.

00:17:40 ◼   ► Like that I already get by default with my headphones.

00:17:44 ◼   ► With the Atmos as a software feature,

00:17:48 ◼   ► as a software enhancement on top of a song,

00:17:53 ◼   ► it accentuates some aspects.

00:17:56 ◼   ► And sometimes it's really fun,

00:17:58 ◼   ► and it's really easy to understand.

00:18:00 ◼   ► And if you have an utmost setup,

00:18:01 ◼   ► whether it's AirPods Max or good Bluetooth headphones,

00:18:05 ◼   ► or maybe you have a surround system at home,

00:18:07 ◼   ► it's very easy to demo, it's very easy to explain.

00:18:10 ◼   ► And if done well,

00:18:11 ◼   ► I think it can be the future of streaming.

00:18:14 ◼   ► It can be a differentiating factor

00:18:17 ◼   ► for a service like Apple Music.

00:18:19 ◼   ► The problem is when it's not done well.

00:18:22 ◼   ► And there's a lot of examples in Apple Music of,

00:18:25 ◼   ► you know, you listen to the utmost mixing,

00:18:27 ◼   ► like what happened here?

00:18:29 ◼   ► Like, what's my age again?

00:18:30 ◼   ► Buddy Holly by the Weezer.

00:18:33 ◼   ► Gotta Have It by Jizzy and Connie.

00:18:34 ◼   ► It was like, what's going on here?

00:18:37 ◼   ► It sounds weird if you know the original.

00:18:40 ◼   ► And even if you don't know the original,

00:18:42 ◼   ► I don't know, the volume levels

00:18:44 ◼   ► are a bit all over the place.

00:18:45 ◼   ► I actually think what they've done with this whole suite of stuff, and you know, again,

00:18:51 ◼   ► which makes it so difficult to name, is they gave lossless to you, they gave spatial audio

00:18:56 ◼   ► to me.

00:18:57 ◼   ► The type of person who is more inclined to notice the things that you are noticing, you

00:19:02 ◼   ► have lossless now in Apple Music.

00:19:06 ◼   ► And then me, I don't notice those things so much, so I get Dolby Atmos, right?

00:19:11 ◼   ► And so like that's, it's like this is actually a great twofer because the other thing is

00:19:16 ◼   ► like you know what like as you're saying it's way better if you have all the stuff that

00:19:21 ◼   ► you have.

00:19:22 ◼   ► I don't have all of that stuff nor do I want it.

00:19:24 ◼   ► So but my $250 earbuds does a great job with Dolby Atmos and it sounds to me fantastic.

00:19:32 ◼   ► Right.

00:19:33 ◼   ► So and I agree with you right there are some that are better than others.

00:19:37 ◼   ► Like I didn't have the experience that you had of like this sounds bad but I had some

00:19:40 ◼   ► where I was like I actually couldn't even tell like for this one you know like

00:19:44 ◼   ► I don't remember which songs they were but like I'll play them and be like that

00:19:48 ◼   ► didn't feel like anything like it didn't feel any different to what I would

00:19:51 ◼   ► consider just a good stereo mix to be right so it's gonna be a learning curve

00:19:55 ◼   ► and new music is going to be better I am I think this sounds fantastic and I'm

00:20:02 ◼   ► excited to see where it goes but then as you have you tried the lossless stuff by

00:20:06 ◼   ► the way? Yeah, I did last night. I sat down with my new external DAC and it works

00:20:13 ◼   ► beautifully in Hi-ROS Los Angeles. I can see the bitrate on my

00:20:18 ◼   ► DAC's display and it totally works and it sounds great. How were the mids?

00:20:23 ◼   ► Were they crunchy? The mids were crunchy and the bass was

00:20:28 ◼   ► thick and warm. Treble? Treble was crisp, I can tell you that. Oh, that's

00:20:34 ◼   ► That's good, I mean, if it's not Chris, what's the point?

00:20:37 ◼   ► What is the point? It's a whole recipe over here.

00:20:38 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:20:40 ◼   ► And here's my final point.

00:20:41 ◼   ► I think I'm gonna, I am going to keep this enabled,

00:20:44 ◼   ► and I think I'm going to, I want to believe

00:20:47 ◼   ► that this is not gonna be like a gimmick

00:20:49 ◼   ► that lasts for three months,

00:20:51 ◼   ► and then we all forget about it.

00:20:53 ◼   ► Apple seems to be pretty much behind this initiative, right?

00:20:57 ◼   ► In terms of, you know, convincing producers and studios

00:21:01 ◼   ► to release mixes in Atmos.

00:21:04 ◼   ► And I think it can be an important exclusive feature

00:21:09 ◼   ► for Apple Music.

00:21:10 ◼   ► That is, unless Spotify comes in and strikes a deal with Dolby,

00:21:14 ◼   ► and they're like, OK, now we also have Dolby Atmos.

00:21:17 ◼   ► But I wonder if this convincing that Apple

00:21:22 ◼   ► is doing with record labels and studios,

00:21:25 ◼   ► will there be some exclusivity involved in that?

00:21:29 ◼   ► Like if Apple helps you set up a studio with Dolby Atmos support.

00:21:34 ◼   ► Oh, of course. I mean, yeah. If they're kind of throwing some weight in it.

00:21:38 ◼   ► Right.

00:21:38 ◼   ► And I think that this is important for them because they don't really have,

00:21:43 ◼   ► Apple doesn't have a feature of Apple Music that makes it compelling over Spotify.

00:21:50 ◼   ► Exactly. Exactly.

00:21:51 ◼   ► Right? So where Spotify has loads, like just that new campaign they're doing.

00:21:55 ◼   ► What is it? It's like Only You? Is that what it's called?

00:21:57 ◼   ► Only You. Yeah.

00:21:58 ◼   ► And it's just fantastic.

00:21:59 ◼   ► They have a great ad for it that I saw on TV.

00:22:02 ◼   ► And then Adina uses Spotify, and we went through hers

00:22:06 ◼   ► last night, and we thought it was hilarious,

00:22:08 ◼   ► like the things that they're surfacing.

00:22:10 ◼   ► They just really understand.

00:22:11 ◼   ► They are a data company.

00:22:13 ◼   ► As much as they are a music company,

00:22:14 ◼   ► they understand how to take information

00:22:16 ◼   ► and present it to you in interesting ways, right?

00:22:18 ◼   ► Apple has failed to do this tragically so far.

00:22:22 ◼   ► - Right.

00:22:23 ◼   ► - With their pre-wanted.

00:22:24 ◼   ► - They're not really--

00:22:25 ◼   ► - They're not doing it.

00:22:26 ◼   ► And they're not really changing anything in iOS 15, like they're not really doing anything,

00:22:30 ◼   ► at least right now with the intelligence-based stuff or mixes or...

00:22:35 ◼   ► But this could be something, right? Like Dolby Atmos stuff could be something, and also,

00:22:41 ◼   ► well, the lossless stuff is great because it's just included for free where everybody

00:22:44 ◼   ► else is going to make you pay a little bit more.

00:22:47 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:22:48 ◼   ► So, we'll see.

00:22:49 ◼   ► And to sum up, I think, like, I don't... Maybe I give you the impression that I'm totally,

00:22:54 ◼   ► know, saying "Atmos sucks." I think when it's done well, it's incredible. It's really well

00:23:00 ◼   ► done. It's fun, and I love it when it's done well. I heard a few examples of Atmos Mix

00:23:08 ◼   ► is not done well, but I want to listen more. Like, I really, I listen for like an hour

00:23:14 ◼   ► to a bunch of songs. Like, I want to actually sit down when this week is over and listen

00:23:18 ◼   ► into more tracks, but this could be... I could see myself switching back to Apple Music eventually,

00:23:26 ◼   ► if the Atmos experience lives up to the hype, and because of the things that I, like I said

00:23:32 ◼   ► months ago, that I'm continuing to miss from Apple Music, like seeing what my friends are

00:23:37 ◼   ► listening to, and real-time lyrics, which Spotify said, "Oh, those are coming eventually,

00:23:42 ◼   ► but they're not really coming." So I don't know. I think for me specifically, if this

00:23:47 ◼   ► this Atmos thing grows well, there are now a group of features that I find compelling

00:23:54 ◼   ► compared to Spotify, right? Hi, Roslosa, my friends social networking there, real-time

00:24:01 ◼   ► lyrics, and Dolby Atmos. So maybe it's, you know, I could see in a couple of months maybe

00:24:09 ◼   ► saying "You know what? I'm actually going back to Apple Music." But I feel like I have

00:24:14 ◼   ► a much more complete picture of what Apple Music is compared to Spotify, so I'm still

00:24:22 ◼   ► going to call the experiment a success if I decide to switch back. I don't know. I want

00:24:26 ◼   ► to see what happens with this special audio thing.

00:24:29 ◼   ► Alright, we're going to get to WWDC. We have scored ourselves. We're going to see if there's

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00:27:09 ◼   ► more than anything. It's for you to read the rules. That's what we're going to do. It's

00:27:15 ◼   ► time to read those bill of rickies, my friend. Come on, let's do it. Everybody, please stand

00:27:19 ◼   ► if you're able. Oh, yeah, we're going. I'm too tired. Please don't stand. I'm standing

00:27:24 ◼   ► in spirit. The bill of rickies last amended on January 13, 2021. Past results can be seen

00:27:32 ◼   ► at rickys.co and rickys.net.

00:27:35 ◼   ► There are two types of Rickys, annual Rickys

00:27:37 ◼   ► and keynote Rickys.

00:27:39 ◼   ► The winner of the annual Rickys is named annual chairman

00:27:42 ◼   ► and retains the rights to the corresponding Twitter account

00:27:45 ◼   ► for the full year.

00:27:46 ◼   ► This position is awarded every January.

00:27:49 ◼   ► The keynote Rickys winner is named the keynote chairman

00:27:52 ◼   ► and retains the rights to the corresponding Twitter account

00:27:54 ◼   ► until the next keynote is held.

00:27:56 ◼   ► Annual winners roll over to preserve the order of picks.

00:27:59 ◼   ► For example, the 2019 annual winner got to go first for the next annual picks.

00:28:05 ◼   ► Order for the keynote rookies is based on the previous Apple event.

00:28:09 ◼   ► The loser, well they go last.

00:28:12 ◼   ► Turn any points everything written down in the prediction document must come true.

00:28:21 ◼   ► No half points may be awarded in any round and picks cannot be reused.

00:28:26 ◼   ► One point is awarded for any pick deemed correct in the first two rounds.

00:28:30 ◼   ► Two points will be awarded for correct picks in the risky pick round.

00:28:34 ◼   ► If your risky pick is wrong, you lose a point.

00:28:38 ◼   ► And the two other hosts must agree that your pick is risky.

00:28:42 ◼   ► For keynote rookies, the scoring window starts when the event begins

00:28:46 ◼   ► and closes when the picks are scored.

00:28:48 ◼   ► Now!

00:28:49 ◼   ► Right now.

00:28:50 ◼   ► The winner of the regular and risky picks must be granted access

00:28:55 ◼   ► to the annual or event chairman twitter account and will retain access until another winner

00:29:01 ◼   ► is named.

00:29:03 ◼   ► The Flexis.

00:29:06 ◼   ► Loser of the flexis must compensate the winner of the flexis by donating to the charity of

00:29:11 ◼   ► the winner's choice.

00:29:12 ◼   ► The amount of the donation is $25 per wrong flexi made by the loser.

00:29:18 ◼   ► In case of a tie, the ratio of the correct to incorrect flexis will be taken into account.

00:29:24 ◼   ► Each host must make a minimum of five FlexiPics.

00:29:28 ◼   ► Flexis may be reused as future Flexis or regular Pics,

00:29:33 ◼   ► and the money must be donated on air.

00:29:36 ◼   ► As a reminder, Myke is the current annual chairman

00:29:38 ◼   ► and Federico is the current keynote chairman.

00:29:41 ◼   ► That second Twitter account is on the line.

00:29:44 ◼   ► - Okay, so there may be an amendment needed

00:29:49 ◼   ► to the bill of re-keys.

00:29:51 ◼   ► - Oh.

00:29:53 ◼   ► So Jason, not that Jason, another one, who makes the

00:29:58 ◼   ► Wikipedia, rikis.net, wrote a very good article called

00:30:02 ◼   ► "Thoughts on Flexis," which is a riff on "Thoughts on Flash."

00:30:07 ◼   ► Wait, really?

00:30:08 ◼   ► Yeah, it's fantastic.

00:30:10 ◼   ► It will be in the show notes.

00:30:11 ◼   ► Everyone should go and read it.

00:30:12 ◼   ► It's hilarious and wonderfully detailed.

00:30:14 ◼   ► But the crux of it is basically coming down

00:30:18 ◼   ► to this idea of percentages, ratios of right to wrong, and the number of picks. Because

00:30:26 ◼   ► we have it in the flexies. In the case of a tie, the ratio of correct to incorrect flexies

00:30:31 ◼   ► will be taken into account, right? This makes the most sense if we're all picking the same

00:30:35 ◼   ► amount. Now that Federico's decided he wants to pick a thousand flexies every time, the

00:30:41 ◼   ► - I didn't say every time, but it's possible.

00:30:43 ◼   ► But you see, if we now have opened the door to this, basically, one of us could just pick

00:30:52 ◼   ► 50 and you've only got to get six correct to win.

00:30:56 ◼   ► So I would like to propose an amendment to the Bill of Rickeys in regards to the flexis

00:31:03 ◼   ► that just removes the case of a tie and say the way that we score the flexis is the ratio

00:31:10 ◼   ► of correct to incorrect flexes and that's just the way it's scored so you have to be right.

00:31:17 ◼   ► Oh you lost me a while back. Okay so instead of like because the way we would score it right now

00:31:24 ◼   ► is you have 10, I have six, Steven has five or whatever right? Right. I think now we should be

00:31:31 ◼   ► scored on our percentages of right to wrong rather than who has the most correct. Isn't that already

00:31:40 ◼   ► Isn't that already in the rules? Well, so this is the thing. In our minds, we already we all think

00:31:45 ◼   ► this. This is this is where this has come from. This is why this came up because we have all just

00:31:50 ◼   ► been talking about the fact that that's just how it scored. But the flexi, the bill of rikki states

00:31:55 ◼   ► that that only comes into contention in case of a tie. Ah, I see. Matt, who is a mod in the discord,

00:32:03 ◼   ► gave the same feedback and I do think it's a problem that Federico has shown

00:32:09 ◼   ► in the system and yeah I second the amendment I think it should be a

00:32:13 ◼   ► percentage and I guess if the person so it's possible that say that Federico

00:32:22 ◼   ► picks 10 mm-hmm and gets eight correct that's 80% but then I pick 20 but I also

00:32:31 ◼   ► get 80% correctly we can still in a tie and then I think at that point it's

00:32:36 ◼   ► just a coin flip like the regular picks are. We love a coin flip. Okay. Oh oh by

00:32:41 ◼   ► the way, hey everyone can sit down sorry we finished reading the rules you can

00:32:44 ◼   ► sit down for this. A long time ago. So I just want to state for the record

00:32:48 ◼   ► because Jason who created Wikipedia is in the discord and is unhappy because

00:32:52 ◼   ► this isn't what he wanted. He wanted it to be a different way but this is what I

00:32:57 ◼   ► think makes the most sense because in our minds this is how we've been

00:33:00 ◼   ► thinking about this for a little while anyway that it's actually your ratio is

00:33:04 ◼   ► the important part yeah yeah so really it's so Jason Snell the bad person says

00:33:09 ◼   ► minimum five picks the percentage wins yes yeah I think so okay so let's look

00:33:15 ◼   ► at the language here and in case of a tie in case of a tie in case of a

00:33:19 ◼   ► percentage tie right right and actually we don't have the coin flip anywhere in

00:33:24 ◼   ► the bill of Ricky's that has just been something we've been doing so we need to

00:33:28 ◼   ► address that too but let's fix this we're doing a big amendment big amendment

00:33:33 ◼   ► big amendment be this is a thick amendment I'm going to strike the

00:33:41 ◼   ► languages says in the case of a tie the ratio of incorrect incorrect flexes

00:33:45 ◼   ► taking to account so get rid of that yeah for now get rid of each host was

00:33:49 ◼   ► like a minimum of five flexes mm-hmm flexes may be used as future flexes or

00:33:55 ◼   ► regular picks the winner is determined by ratio of correct to

00:34:07 ◼   ► incorrect picks. Correct to incorrect. Okay so the winner is determined by the

00:34:14 ◼   ► ratio of correct to incorrect flexes. Mm-hmm. Then I'm gonna have at the bottom

00:34:21 ◼   ► outside of the flexi section a new paragraph that says a tie in either the

00:34:27 ◼   ► regular picks or the flexis is to be broken by a coin toss can we make a

00:34:36 ◼   ► second amendment or the flexis is never have Jason flip the coin by by coin toss

00:34:43 ◼   ► Jason Snell has a lifetime ban on flipping the coin.

00:34:51 ◼   ► You should also say digital assistants may be used to flip a coin.

00:34:59 ◼   ► Okay, so Jason Snell has a lifetime ban on flipping the coin, but digital voice assistants

00:35:05 ◼   ► – if robots happen, we'll need to readdress this – digital voice assistants may be used.

00:35:12 ◼   ► used in brackets even by Jason Jason Jason's capable of asking Siri he's not

00:35:21 ◼   ► capable of flipping a physical claim by Jason okay all right okay I know that

00:35:27 ◼   ► people want us not to like that people in the discord already are asking about

00:35:32 ◼   ► like the the way that the tiebreaker should be broken is by how many you got

00:35:36 ◼   ► correct we just like coin flips I like a coin flip it's additional drama it's

00:35:41 ◼   ► always and it's simple coin flips are simple but we're already having to do a

00:35:44 ◼   ► lot more math than we needed to I didn't think we're gonna be making such huge

00:35:48 ◼   ► changes to the bullet rookies today I didn't either so let me read it all

00:35:53 ◼   ► again loser of the flexes must compensate the winner of the flexes by

00:35:56 ◼   ► donating to the charity of the winners choice okay the amount of the donation

00:36:00 ◼   ► is 25 per one flexing made by the loser each host must make a minimum of five

00:36:04 ◼   ► flexi picks flexes may be reused as future flexes or regular picks the

00:36:08 ◼   ► winner is determined by the ratio of correct to incorrect flexes. The money

00:36:13 ◼   ► must be donated on air. A tie in either the regular picks or the flexes is to be

00:36:17 ◼   ► broken by coin toss. Jason Snell has a lifetime ban on flipping the coin, but

00:36:23 ◼   ► digital voices instance may be used even by Jason. This is lovely. I will just say

00:36:30 ◼   ► none of this applies for today. Right, today we're playing under the old rules.

00:36:33 ◼   ► So this is for the next one.

00:36:35 ◼   ► Okay.

00:36:36 ◼   ► Okay.

00:36:37 ◼   ► Living document.

00:36:38 ◼   ► What are we calling this? How do we label amendments?

00:36:43 ◼   ► Oh, I hadn't thought of that.

00:36:45 ◼   ► Well, we just changed the text. And so I would say that if you run one of those websites,

00:36:49 ◼   ► it's kind of up to you how you display it.

00:36:50 ◼   ► But for guidance for third-party publishers, right? What's our guidelines?

00:36:56 ◼   ► The Bill of Rickeys, parenthetical, June 2021. Just like Apple does.

00:37:01 ◼   ► Yeah. Okay. Perfect.

00:37:03 ◼   ► OK. But we're playing in the old January 2021 rules today.

00:37:07 ◼   ► So, round one.

00:37:10 ◼   ► The order this time was Federico and then Myke and then me.

00:37:14 ◼   ► So Federico, you're up first.

00:37:16 ◼   ► Let's do it. In the next version of iPadOS,

00:37:20 ◼   ► you can put widgets in more places out of the left column.

00:37:24 ◼   ► That's a point. We got it. Widgets on the home screen.

00:37:28 ◼   ► It's good too.

00:37:29 ◼   ► Yeah, it's...

00:37:31 ◼   ► You can place them anywhere and you can mix in app icons.

00:37:35 ◼   ► There's a new extra large widget.

00:37:38 ◼   ► It's nice.

00:37:39 ◼   ► And I'm rethinking my home screen now.

00:37:41 ◼   ► - No names underneath the widgets on the iPad.

00:37:43 ◼   ► - No labels on iPad.

00:37:45 ◼   ► Why?

00:37:48 ◼   ► Like I have to believe that the label,

00:37:50 ◼   ► I think the label on iPhone is like a leftover

00:37:53 ◼   ► from a previous build.

00:37:54 ◼   ► I think they're gonna get rid of it.

00:37:56 ◼   ► So it's either a bug on iPad or it's a bug on iPhone.

00:37:59 ◼   ► - Yeah, it's gonna change somewhere, right?

00:38:01 ◼   ► - It's gonna change somewhere.

00:38:02 ◼   ► And I hope it changes on the iPhone

00:38:04 ◼   ► because I very much prefer the iPad look.

00:38:07 ◼   ► - I have the Bay Area on my 12.9 inch iPad Pro

00:38:10 ◼   ► and my iPad mini.

00:38:11 ◼   ► I just wanted to put it on the iPad mini.

00:38:14 ◼   ► Widgets look hilarious on the iPad mini.

00:38:16 ◼   ► They do, they're so small and they collide of each other

00:38:19 ◼   ► in like weird and wonderful ways.

00:38:21 ◼   ► The UI, especially on the shortcuts widget

00:38:24 ◼   ► on the iPad mini is hilarious.

00:38:27 ◼   ► It's really funny.

00:38:29 ◼   ► I really like it, though.

00:38:31 ◼   ► I don't like what happens when you go from portrait

00:38:33 ◼   ► to landscape.

00:38:35 ◼   ► They move.

00:38:37 ◼   ► They swap around.

00:38:38 ◼   ► And I really hoped that we were outside of that world, right?

00:38:41 ◼   ► When app icons used to swap around,

00:38:43 ◼   ► used to move place in portrait and landscape.

00:38:45 ◼   ► And we're back to that again.

00:38:46 ◼   ► And I really don't like that.

00:38:49 ◼   ► Yeah, that's the trade-off for bringing widgets

00:38:52 ◼   ► to the iPad home screen, right?

00:38:55 ◼   ► You've got to deal with rotation.

00:38:56 ◼   ► And in the process of doing this, Apple also got rid of an entire row of icons on the 12.9-inch

00:39:02 ◼   ► iPad Pro.

00:39:03 ◼   ► So it used to be a 6x5 grid, now it's a 6x4.

00:39:06 ◼   ► I guess because it's more easily divisible by the slots, the different slots of the widgets,

00:39:14 ◼   ► which I get it, the technicality of it, it makes sense.

00:39:18 ◼   ► It still kind of sucks that I'm losing a row of icons.

00:39:21 ◼   ► Yeah, I think they've added enough stuff that it doesn't matter so much for me now, right?

00:39:26 ◼   ► you can put more apps in the dock and you have App Library and so I'm kind of like I

00:39:31 ◼   ► don't care about losing the space because as well I was losing space for icons anyway

00:39:36 ◼   ► because I've put in widgets all over the place.

00:39:40 ◼   ► Are you going to use the App Library on iPad?

00:39:42 ◼   ► Oh I am and I think it's fantastic.

00:39:46 ◼   ► I don't like the swipe.

00:39:49 ◼   ► I like it in the dock.

00:39:51 ◼   ► The animation, currently the animation for the App Library when you swipe to the right

00:39:56 ◼   ► is...

00:39:57 ◼   ► Oh it's very nice.

00:39:58 ◼   ► I don't know it's too much for me.

00:39:59 ◼   ► It's a lot of animation.

00:40:00 ◼   ► Too much?

00:40:01 ◼   ► It's a lot of animation.

00:40:03 ◼   ► Remember if you remember I am an App Library user on the iPhone so using an a happy one

00:40:08 ◼   ► so using the App Library and the iPad is great for me.

00:40:12 ◼   ► I'm pleased about that.

00:40:16 ◼   ► What's your problem?

00:40:17 ◼   ► Well we have something to talk about my pick.

00:40:20 ◼   ► it was 15. Whoa hang on a minute, we haven't even done mine! Chill, chill Stephen. Sorry you were talking and I got

00:40:27 ◼   ► distracted. You weren't listening were you? You checked out, Stephen was doing

00:40:30 ◼   ► something else. Unbelievable. I was editing the beginning of the show. These already come back to the beginning.

00:40:36 ◼   ► That's some real multitasking. Live in the left ear, logic in the right ear, incredible.

00:40:43 ◼   ► My pick was no preview of AR, VR or mixed reality focused hardware. I mean this was

00:40:51 ◼   ► obvious to me. I had a cash bet with James Thompson about this very thing and

00:40:57 ◼   ► he now owes me cash money. I don't know why people thought this was gonna happen.

00:41:02 ◼   ► Like it was too early and as well like I just saw a report I think from Ming-Chi

00:41:07 ◼   ► quote saying Q2 2022 for this hardware like yeah of course it was like oh it's

00:41:15 ◼   ► a developer conference they're obviously gonna show it off now like no it wasn't

00:41:18 ◼   ► gonna happen and we did nothing to be honest I was actually kind of surprised

00:41:23 ◼   ► how little AR stuff they had in the bdbs in the keynote yeah is them is there

00:41:29 ◼   ► more that I've missed I haven't looked into any of the AR sessions there's some

00:41:33 ◼   ► ARKit sessions, but I don't even think they revised the ARKit version number.

00:41:38 ◼   ► I don't think.

00:41:39 ◼   ► I mean, there's stuff in Maps, and there's the thing where you can capture...

00:41:44 ◼   ► They have that object scanning thing.

00:41:45 ◼   ► Didn't they do ARKit 5?

00:41:46 ◼   ► I think they did ARKit 5.

00:41:47 ◼   ► Oh, yeah, because ARKit 5.

00:41:48 ◼   ► I'm sorry, chat room.

00:41:51 ◼   ► And there's a new RealityKit, but yeah, it doesn't seem like it got a lot of attention.

00:41:55 ◼   ► I'm sure James Thompson will take advantage of whatever they've done, though.

00:41:58 ◼   ► No, it was more of a...

00:41:59 ◼   ► I don't know, the entire theme of the conference.

00:42:02 ◼   ► Like in previous years, we got the big focus on AR

00:42:05 ◼   ► and all these different technologies.

00:42:07 ◼   ► This year, it was really like the pandemic update,

00:42:11 ◼   ► even more so than last year,

00:42:13 ◼   ► which I mentioned this on App Stories,

00:42:16 ◼   ► and I know that I think Jason wrote about it.

00:42:18 ◼   ► I don't know, I feel kind of,

00:42:21 ◼   ► some features, they feel kind of late at this point, right?

00:42:26 ◼   ► because just now that we're getting, thankfully, vaccinated and we can start hanging out again,

00:42:33 ◼   ► now Apple is saying, "But look, come September, you can watch movies and TV shows with your friends."

00:42:38 ◼   ► And I mean, that is a fantastic FaceTime feature, but I also hope I'm not gonna be in a position to

00:42:45 ◼   ► having to do that ever again, you know?

00:42:49 ◼   ► Wait, you don't want to watch a movie with me?

00:42:50 ◼   ► Have we ever watched a movie before the pandemic, Steven, on FaceTime?

00:42:55 ◼   ► During did you watch a movie together during the pandemic? No, no, I want to watch Star Wars with you

00:43:01 ◼   ► I feel this too. There's a bunch of stuff all the share play stuff

00:43:04 ◼   ► So much of the FaceTime stuff it has all been made with the pandemic in mind

00:43:11 ◼   ► Yeah, all of these features can be used post-pandemic, right? Sure. It'll be nice to have

00:43:16 ◼   ► We're not going to need them as much

00:43:19 ◼   ► Yeah, but you know, I mean we all have friends and family who you know, don't live near us

00:43:25 ◼   ► Right, like literally the three of us

00:43:28 ◼   ► Exactly. Like I am fully aware that

00:43:31 ◼   ► All my friends are here

00:43:33 ◼   ► like in isolation

00:43:35 ◼   ► I have no friends elsewhere, no problem for me

00:43:38 ◼   ► In isolation these features are like these features are terrific and the way they are done

00:43:45 ◼   ► Technically speaking, I think it's really clever.

00:43:47 ◼   ► They're really well done.

00:43:49 ◼   ► But it's the feature after feature at WWDC.

00:43:53 ◼   ► There was like, now that we cannot spend time--

00:43:57 ◼   ► yeah, I get it.

00:43:59 ◼   ► But we're all--

00:43:59 ◼   ► Yeah, yeah.

00:44:00 ◼   ► By September, we're now on the news here in Italy.

00:44:05 ◼   ► We're talking about reopening everything.

00:44:06 ◼   ► And we're going to be done with the vaccines, hopefully.

00:44:10 ◼   ► It's just the timing seems a little odd.

00:44:12 ◼   ► That's all.

00:44:13 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:44:14 ◼   ► some stuff is going to stick around, right?

00:44:16 ◼   ► Like some things people will have made new traditions

00:44:20 ◼   ► over the last year and a half

00:44:21 ◼   ► that will stick around for a while.

00:44:23 ◼   ► But like the desperation for these features,

00:44:27 ◼   ► that time has passed, right?

00:44:29 ◼   ► So much of this stuff,

00:44:30 ◼   ► like if FaceTime would have had all of these features,

00:44:33 ◼   ► Zoom probably wouldn't be as dominant as it is, right?

00:44:38 ◼   ► Because anyone that owns Apple devices

00:44:41 ◼   ► would have used these features

00:44:42 ◼   ► and it would have maybe spread a bit more.

00:44:43 ◼   ► Zoom I'm sure would have had a great time, but not been so dominant to the point that

00:44:47 ◼   ► we're now recording this show on Zoom.

00:44:50 ◼   ► Right?

00:44:51 ◼   ► Like, I don't think that would have happened.

00:44:53 ◼   ► I'm intrigued to see if we will actually move to FaceTime because we're only on Zoom because

00:44:58 ◼   ► Skype doesn't work on M1 Max so maybe we could try FaceTime again, who knows?

00:45:03 ◼   ► Well Skype Core Recorder doesn't work on M1 Max.

00:45:06 ◼   ► And so yeah, it was interesting to see all of that stuff and realize that we don't have

00:45:12 ◼   ► any of these features today really and it's still another three months maybe more for

00:45:17 ◼   ► some of them right because a lot of this stuff is in areas that Apple have struggled to make

00:45:23 ◼   ► the September date like a lot of FaceTime stuff. Some of these are going to get delayed.

00:45:27 ◼   ► Yeah. No way all this stuff is going to be done right. I think especially the FaceTime

00:45:33 ◼   ► features because there's so many there's so much more going on here like Apple has to

00:45:38 ◼   ► build out a reliable web-based solution for this, which seems, you know, isn't the typical

00:45:44 ◼   ► stuff that they do. It's a very new area for them, so we'll see.

00:45:49 ◼   ► There's a bigger question here that I just want to leave out there, like what does it

00:45:53 ◼   ► say about Apple as a company that this kind of feature needed to, you know, depend on

00:46:00 ◼   ► the monolithic software update to come out the next year?

00:46:04 ◼   ► Like, is there a timeline in which Apple

00:46:09 ◼   ► as a slightly different company

00:46:11 ◼   ► could have been able to say, you know what,

00:46:12 ◼   ► we're gonna prioritize all these major changes

00:46:15 ◼   ► to FaceTime in 14.5 or 14.3, you know,

00:46:19 ◼   ► instead of waiting for September 2021.

00:46:22 ◼   ► But it's a fun argument to think about.

00:46:25 ◼   ► Steven, now it's your turn.

00:46:29 ◼   ► iPadOS 15 brings organization changes to the home screen that don't exist on the iPhone,

00:46:34 ◼   ► including iOS 15.

00:46:36 ◼   ► What a surprise you didn't get this one.

00:46:38 ◼   ► But here's the thing.

00:46:40 ◼   ► I need to read the rest of it.

00:46:43 ◼   ► Note comma not in pic.

00:46:46 ◼   ► Widgets on home screen and app library don't count as they are on the iPhone already.

00:46:52 ◼   ► I really want to find any way to give you this point.

00:46:56 ◼   ► Yeah, there is a way.

00:46:57 ◼   ► library is different on the iPad it's in the dock and it's like the dock is not

00:47:03 ◼   ► the home screen no it's not an organization change yeah yeah it because

00:47:08 ◼   ► on the iPhone you swipe over and the app libraries all the way on the right and

00:47:13 ◼   ► on the iPad that is not there it is in or it is if you swipe over is is there

00:47:18 ◼   ► oh damn it yeah whatever an extremely thin case of if you were to argue about

00:47:26 ◼   ► about the widget labels and how they affect like custom home screens.

00:47:31 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:47:32 ◼   ► But...

00:47:33 ◼   ► Oh!

00:47:34 ◼   ► Also the new widget size.

00:47:36 ◼   ► Hmm?

00:47:37 ◼   ► Hmm?

00:47:38 ◼   ► But...

00:47:39 ◼   ► That's something that doesn't exist on the iPhone.

00:47:41 ◼   ► We don't have...

00:47:42 ◼   ► It's not an organization change.

00:47:44 ◼   ► Not in peak.

00:47:45 ◼   ► Widgets on home screen.

00:47:47 ◼   ► Don't count.

00:47:48 ◼   ► But we don't say anything about sizes or widgets?

00:47:50 ◼   ► But you don't say not...

00:47:53 ◼   ► You don't not say that.

00:47:55 ◼   ► I really appreciate you trying.

00:47:56 ◼   ► - It's almost like you're taking out on me

00:47:59 ◼   ► for something that somebody else did to you

00:48:00 ◼   ► on a different podcast.

00:48:01 ◼   ► - Well, you're involved in it.

00:48:02 ◼   ► Everyone's involved, this is a conspiracy.

00:48:05 ◼   ► - Hey, I was not, I was not.

00:48:07 ◼   ► - That's fair.

00:48:08 ◼   ► I appreciate, Steven, you're trying to get your point here.

00:48:12 ◼   ► Like you got to fight for your point.

00:48:14 ◼   ► Did you didn't get it?

00:48:15 ◼   ► - No, this is not--

00:48:16 ◼   ► - Sorry.

00:48:17 ◼   ► - It's okay.

00:48:18 ◼   ► - It's okay.

00:48:19 ◼   ► - That's okay.

00:48:19 ◼   ► - And if you remember, we tried to warn you

00:48:20 ◼   ► against this pick.

00:48:21 ◼   ► You can go back and listen.

00:48:23 ◼   ► - Oh yeah.

00:48:24 ◼   ► We really tried to warn you against the spec, but you know, you soldiered on.

00:48:31 ◼   ► So at the end of round one, Federico has one point, Myke has one point, and I have no points.

00:48:37 ◼   ► No points.

00:48:39 ◼   ► Round two, Federico.

00:48:41 ◼   ► Round two, WidgetKit, gains new interactivity features that allow you to perform actions

00:48:47 ◼   ► inside widgets without launching the associated app.

00:48:52 ◼   ► No, it did not happen.

00:48:54 ◼   ► And this was the--

00:48:55 ◼   ► Big surprise.

00:48:56 ◼   ► So I'm really-- beyond the fact that I'm

00:48:59 ◼   ► bummed for not getting the point,

00:49:00 ◼   ► but more broadly speaking, I'm really

00:49:03 ◼   ► surprised that we did not see a response from Apple

00:49:08 ◼   ► to all the widget enthusiasm from last year.

00:49:13 ◼   ► They literally did nothing on this front.

00:49:17 ◼   ► And again, I don't know what that says.

00:49:19 ◼   ► Is it because these features are planned a year in advance

00:49:23 ◼   ► and Apple cannot switch gears quickly?

00:49:27 ◼   ► But then again, I don't think it's true

00:49:28 ◼   ► when they wanted to with the,

00:49:31 ◼   ► I think of the exposure notifications, right?

00:49:32 ◼   ► - Oh, yeah, that can't be the case

00:49:33 ◼   ► because they weren't working on all these pandemic really,

00:49:36 ◼   ► it features two years ago

00:49:38 ◼   ► because you just would never have made

00:49:39 ◼   ► all of the things that they've made.

00:49:40 ◼   ► - So they just, maybe it's that SwiftUI or whatever

00:49:45 ◼   ► is not ready for that kind of feature yet.

00:49:48 ◼   ► It's really strange to me that, you know, beyond interactions, we didn't see anything for custom icons,

00:49:56 ◼   ► we didn't see anything for wallpapers, just nothing. And we were sure, oh, Apple is aware,

00:50:04 ◼   ► and they're gonna do a bunch of features all for customization because of widgets. No, completely ignored.

00:50:10 ◼   ► Yeah, I'm really surprised about this. It seemed like a foregone conclusion that they would do something,

00:50:16 ◼   ► right, to capitalize on the absolute incredible trend they found themselves on.

00:50:23 ◼   ► A trend so large that it forced Google to do something, right?

00:50:27 ◼   ► Right.

00:50:28 ◼   ► The next version of Android is based on this aesthetic theming stuff, right?

00:50:34 ◼   ► And Apple didn't do any of that and I am surprised about it.

00:50:37 ◼   ► And this is a lesson for future me.

00:50:42 ◼   ► never put all of your Ricky eggs in one basket,

00:50:46 ◼   ► in that case widgets, right?

00:50:48 ◼   ► And you guys try to warn me about this.

00:50:50 ◼   ► Like, you're gonna have all pigs be inspired by widgets,

00:50:55 ◼   ► right, be based on widgets.

00:50:57 ◼   ► And you sure you wanna do that?

00:50:58 ◼   ► And for the future, that's good advice.

00:51:02 ◼   ► Don't do that.

00:51:04 ◼   ► Try to spread out and have more diverse pigs.

00:51:07 ◼   ► So, yeah, I'm really surprised.

00:51:09 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:51:10 ◼   ► Could it be that... I mean I'm sure that some design purists at Apple, they must fundamentally

00:51:19 ◼   ► despise what people have been doing with their home screens, right?

00:51:22 ◼   ► Possibly. My feeling on this is SwiftUI is a big project. It isn't just widgets, right?

00:51:33 ◼   ► There's so much going on. They have a roadmap for what they will and won't allow us with

00:51:40 ◼   ► would be my expectation and they just didn't want to break from that because

00:51:44 ◼   ► it's it's too big of a thing to mess around with that would be my guess.

00:51:50 ◼   ► Shortcuts for the Mac. Felt good about this one and it's awesome. I'm so

00:51:58 ◼   ► excited for this it looks fantastic. I know Steven you wrote a thing on

00:52:02 ◼   ► Six Colors about this and Federico you just published an app stories about it

00:52:06 ◼   ► as well. I watched the session, the introducing shortcuts for Mac session, which is a really

00:52:14 ◼   ► good one. I can't believe how deep they're going with this.

00:52:20 ◼   ► Yeah, it's deep and open framework.

00:52:23 ◼   ► It really is.

00:52:24 ◼   ► Talked very clearly.

00:52:25 ◼   ► Yeah, it's really cool. And so apps that are just iOS apps, iPadOS apps running on M1 Macs,

00:52:33 ◼   ► if they've gone through the Mac catalyst chain and run on Intel Macs as well.

00:52:39 ◼   ► It's the same intense framework and so they can just plug into shortcuts.

00:52:44 ◼   ► And then on the Mac side you have two things happening.

00:52:47 ◼   ► They can import automator actions and Apple has rewritten all of their common automator

00:52:52 ◼   ► actions to deal with things like files and folders and servers, you know Mac like things,

00:52:57 ◼   ► some window management stuff from automators and added it to shortcuts.

00:53:03 ◼   ► And I'm sure Federico can chime in in a minute about how that has shown up on the iPad side

00:53:07 ◼   ► as well.

00:53:08 ◼   ► You also have the ability for regular AppKit apps.

00:53:13 ◼   ► So like Mail, or Tweetbot or Transmit, you know, regular Mac apps, traditional Mac apps,

00:53:21 ◼   ► they can adopt the same Intense API, even though they're not an iOS app, even though

00:53:27 ◼   ► they're not a Catalyst app.

00:53:29 ◼   ► And so your traditional Mac apps can also plug into shortcuts in the future, you know,

00:53:34 ◼   ► if developers adopt that and move over to it.

00:53:36 ◼   ► So they've really done a good job at embracing the different types of apps that run on the

00:53:41 ◼   ► Mac.

00:53:42 ◼   ► And you can run JavaScript for automation, or Apple script, or shell scripts within a

00:53:50 ◼   ► shortcut.

00:53:52 ◼   ► And so if you have a shortcut that is part regular, you know, sort of workflow, intense

00:53:58 ◼   ► but you need to bail out to AppleScript for something, you can do that.

00:54:02 ◼   ► And they have, seemingly from the sessions and the documentation, you know, Automator

00:54:09 ◼   ► will be slowly fading away, but I don't think there are any rush to do that.

00:54:16 ◼   ► Multi-year transition, they said, right?

00:54:18 ◼   ► So yeah, it is super cool.

00:54:21 ◼   ► And being able to have those legacy Mac automation tools within shortcuts is really cool.

00:54:29 ◼   ► I think a lot of people were afraid that shortcuts coming in would kill off those other things

00:54:34 ◼   ► or at least remove them from this new automation, these new automation tools, but that's not

00:54:40 ◼   ► the case.

00:54:41 ◼   ► Apple has embraced Mac automation in a new way and that is super exciting.

00:54:46 ◼   ► They really did like the best possible job I think.

00:54:48 ◼   ► I couldn't be more impressed.

00:54:51 ◼   ► I think you can access it from the menu bar and you can put them in the dock and stuff.

00:54:56 ◼   ► You can put them in Finder.

00:54:58 ◼   ► Remember Quick Action showed up in Mojave where you could have an Automator workflow

00:55:02 ◼   ► like show up anytime you had a JPEG in Finder, they drop in there.

00:55:08 ◼   ► It's really cool.

00:55:09 ◼   ► They've really done the work it seems to integrate this with what Mac users already expected

00:55:16 ◼   ► from automation.

00:55:18 ◼   ► And it's also benefited iPad in a big way too, right Federico?

00:55:24 ◼   ► And doing this has added a bunch of stuff, which has made the overall Shortcuts experience

00:55:30 ◼   ► better.

00:55:31 ◼   ► That really is my favorite part of this story.

00:55:36 ◼   ► And how in having to support Automator for that migration tool on the Mac, some of those

00:55:43 ◼   ► actions that Apple needed to recreate on the Mac for automator support, those are now available

00:55:48 ◼   ► on iOS and iPadOS as well. And so, thanks to the Mac, you could say that now we have

00:55:55 ◼   ► much better integration with the file system, with shortcuts on iOS and iPadOS. Now, in

00:56:01 ◼   ► shortcuts you can point the files actions to any folder, and you can pick any file and

00:56:08 ◼   ► And you can create automations for any location in either iCloud or local storage or compatible

00:56:13 ◼   ► file providers, right?

00:56:15 ◼   ► And so many of those actions, like dealing with PDF documents, one of the advantages

00:56:19 ◼   ► of Automator, it had real good support for PDF documents and images.

00:56:25 ◼   ► Well now those actions are also available on iOS and iPadOS.

00:56:29 ◼   ► So it's a new kind of halo effect, if you will, that all the work that Apple has done

00:56:34 ◼   ► for shortcuts on the Mac, now, you know, iOS and iPadOS users can take advantage of that

00:56:40 ◼   ► work as well. And so I'm really happy, like, if this is the consequence of Apple focusing

00:56:47 ◼   ► on the Mac for shortcuts this year, then great, because it also made the iOS and iPadOS app

00:56:54 ◼   ► much more powerful in the process. So yeah, it's...

00:56:57 ◼   ► And it's got a redesign too. Yeah, there's a new design for the editor.

00:57:02 ◼   ► So there's a new look for browsing actions in the Action Library, and all the actions

00:57:07 ◼   ► are now more compact.

00:57:11 ◼   ► The app icons have been integrated with the Action cell, and Apple got rid of the name

00:57:16 ◼   ► of the app inside the Action, so all the actions are a little shorter, and you can fit more

00:57:21 ◼   ► on screen at the same time.

00:57:24 ◼   ► And you can do things like folding, for example.

00:57:26 ◼   ► You can fold an entire block of actions, like a menu, or like an "if" block.

00:57:31 ◼   ► And so if you have something like MusicBot, which is like a thousand actions, and many

00:57:35 ◼   ► of them are contained inside blocks, you can fold them, and now scrolling along Shortcut

00:57:40 ◼   ► is much more convenient than before.

00:57:42 ◼   ► So all these, you know, these are power user additions, but it's exactly the kind of stuff

00:57:48 ◼   ► that Shortcut's power users wanted.

00:57:51 ◼   ► And so I'm just going to say that the Shortcuts team never disappoints, or very rarely disappoints,

00:57:57 ◼   ► I'm going to say.

00:57:58 ◼   ► And they've also added a bunch of things.

00:58:00 ◼   ► I don't know if this is part of needing to do the automated actions, but now being able

00:58:05 ◼   ► to open apps and control them in split views and slide over, it's amazing.

00:58:10 ◼   ► I've wanted this for so long and it opens up so many things that we've wanted.

00:58:14 ◼   ► Like we're always talking about, oh, we should have these fixed app pairs where you can do

00:58:17 ◼   ► that yourself now, right?

00:58:20 ◼   ► And I've been able to make some changes to some of my shortcuts already and it's doing

00:58:26 ◼   ► the exact thing that I've always wanted it to do.

00:58:28 ◼   ► Like I have one of the shortcuts that I use the most on my iPad is when I'm preparing

00:58:33 ◼   ► for one of my shows and I will say like show prep, it will give me a list, I tap it and

00:58:39 ◼   ► what it's always done in the past is sets a time-ary toggle timer and then opens Google

00:58:48 ◼   ► Docs to the correct Google Doc.

00:58:51 ◼   ► But what I always wanted to do and what I now have it do is it opens Google Docs on

00:58:55 ◼   ► the left it opens Safari on the right and then brings in notes from a slide

00:59:00 ◼   ► over and that's everything I need and I'm just so happy that they've done this

00:59:05 ◼   ► those little features are just they they're super awesome super awesome

00:59:09 ◼   ► no word on an Apple silicon Mac Pro fact no word on any hardware as we'll get to

00:59:17 ◼   ► you yeah I mean I felt it was too early for the Mac Pro and at this point you

00:59:22 ◼   ► know they could have a hardware a Mac hardware event in the fall you know

00:59:27 ◼   ► they'll have iPhone event assumingly in September and very often they have an

00:59:32 ◼   ► October event maybe we see Pro Max there or maybe before then who knows you know

00:59:39 ◼   ► depending on what rumor you read on what day it's good it's all over the place

00:59:43 ◼   ► but no Mac Pro news at WBC which made part of me breathe a little easier as a

00:59:50 ◼   ► Mac Pro user. So at the end of round two Federico has one point, Myke has two

00:59:59 ◼   ► points, I have one point. So Myke is in the lead going into our risky picks.

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01:01:49 ◼   ► for the Ricky's

01:01:52 ◼   ► Federico you're up

01:01:53 ◼   ► All right

01:01:54 ◼   ► So I said legacy widgets are completely removed from the system and there is no longer a place to put widgets

01:02:01 ◼   ► To the left of the main home screen about that

01:02:04 ◼   ► So in the keynote, it looked like they were gone

01:02:09 ◼   ► But once you got hold of the beta you learned that that's still there

01:02:14 ◼   ► Does it still work the same as it did in 14? Well, yeah, and in my mind this pick will

01:02:20 ◼   ► Come true eventually and it was really dependent on widget kit

01:02:24 ◼   ► Gaining some interactivity features right and because I did not get that one

01:02:30 ◼   ► I also it's very likely that that's the reason why I don't get this point. You pull your picks in the widget basket

01:02:36 ◼   ► - Exactly, so without interactions,

01:02:40 ◼   ► some legacy widgets wouldn't have any alternative,

01:02:45 ◼   ► some like the Pcalc widget, for example.

01:02:47 ◼   ► And so if WidgetKit does not have any support

01:02:51 ◼   ► for interactions, then maybe it's best

01:02:54 ◼   ► to keep those widgets around another year.

01:02:57 ◼   ► And because of that, there continues to be the Today page

01:03:01 ◼   ► on the left side of the home screen.

01:03:04 ◼   ► It's still an overlay on iPad, even though you can put widgets on the home screen, you

01:03:09 ◼   ► can still put them in the column, and in the column is also where you can keep those old

01:03:13 ◼   ► legacy widgets from iOS 13.

01:03:18 ◼   ► So I'm sad because I'm losing a point, and I'm sad because it's very likely that we need

01:03:26 ◼   ► to wait another year for this discontinued or, should I say, deprecated widgets to finally

01:03:35 ◼   ► go away. But yeah, no point.

01:03:38 ◼   ► And again, it's not that there's a problem with them, it's that they will only go away

01:03:44 ◼   ► you would expect when interactivity is added. And that's what we're really looking for here.

01:03:50 ◼   ► It's not like Federico hates old widgets. Or do you? I don't know.

01:03:56 ◼   ► Well, you know, some of them maybe, but no. Overall, no.

01:04:00 ◼   ► Overall.

01:04:01 ◼   ► I think we spoke about this maybe a few weeks ago even, but are y'all using any legacy widgets?

01:04:07 ◼   ► I'm not. I've finally replaced all of them.

01:04:10 ◼   ► No, I'm not. I had to check. I know I wasn't using any, but I wasn't sure if I had any still enabled.

01:04:21 ◼   ► Yeah, like just hanging around.

01:04:23 ◼   ► Yeah, and I don't. And the reason was I left a few of them there for a while,

01:04:27 ◼   ► but it takes so long to get down to them that they became

01:04:31 ◼   ► mostly pointless. And also a lot of the apps that I use

01:04:35 ◼   ► with widgets, they replaced it and so it removed it, you know.

01:04:39 ◼   ► So no, I don't use any legacy widgets now.

01:04:44 ◼   ► What about you Federico? No, I don't use any. No.

01:04:47 ◼   ► I don't use any. No, no. All right, my pick was Apple makes changes to rules and

01:04:52 ◼   ► on in-app purchases, removing restrictions on linking to external websites for account

01:04:56 ◼   ► creation. Obviously I knew this as an outside, right? The only reason I could get it in here

01:05:03 ◼   ► is because it was unlikely, right? I still think they're going to do it, but I don't

01:05:09 ◼   ► know when. They did make some changes to the review guidelines. It mostly is just clarifying

01:05:17 ◼   ► some stuff and saying certain types of apps are not allowed and that they will ban you

01:05:22 ◼   ► for doing bad things outside of the app store.

01:05:26 ◼   ► And they also added a new way to appeal if you think that you've been treated unfairly,

01:05:30 ◼   ► which is interesting.

01:05:34 ◼   ► Because they already had the appeal thing if you disagreed with a decision, but now

01:05:38 ◼   ► you can make a second type of appeal where if you think you're being treated badly by

01:05:43 ◼   ► the review team on other grounds. So that's all they did. I still think it's going to

01:05:50 ◼   ► come as we spoke about it before. It is in Apple's best interest to do it before they

01:05:55 ◼   ► are forced to do it. Yeah. But there is no changes to the parts of the review guidelines

01:06:02 ◼   ► that we would want. Yeah, and I think that just comes down to the Epic trial is not finished.

01:06:10 ◼   ► And I don't know, there may actually be something not allowing them to, but even if there isn't,

01:06:18 ◼   ► probably not the best time to change something while you're waiting on the judge to tell

01:06:23 ◼   ► you if you have to change anything.

01:06:24 ◼   ► Because either you're going to go too far or it could influence their decision.

01:06:29 ◼   ► So I agree with you, it was an outside chance.

01:06:32 ◼   ► I think there was some chance, but I think the case being still unfinished is probably

01:06:40 ◼   ► what held any possible change off.

01:06:44 ◼   ► Okay, so neither of you got your risky pick.

01:06:50 ◼   ► I think we could probably just wrap up here.

01:06:53 ◼   ► No, no, please tell us what you pick.

01:06:55 ◼   ► Apple unveils a new high-end audio product

01:06:58 ◼   ► as defined by a price of or over $399

01:07:03 ◼   ► or it's a standalone DAC.

01:07:06 ◼   ► I didn't get it.

01:07:09 ◼   ► Oh, didn't you?

01:07:09 ◼   ► No, I was surprised.

01:07:11 ◼   ► I didn't get it.

01:07:12 ◼   ► Ah, that's too bad.

01:07:14 ◼   ► I texted this to y'all, so a little behind the scenes.

01:07:16 ◼   ► Last week when we made these pics, we recorded on Monday.

01:07:19 ◼   ► I got almost the whole show edited.

01:07:21 ◼   ► I couldn't put it out until Tuesday

01:07:24 ◼   ► because it was like the beginning of the month.

01:07:26 ◼   ► And so I just woke up Tuesday morning and finished it.

01:07:29 ◼   ► And I basically was edited up to the point of the Ricky's.

01:07:33 ◼   ► And so I came out here after breakfast and was finishing it.

01:07:35 ◼   ► I told y'all, it was like when I got to my pick,

01:07:38 ◼   ► it was like, you know, after you've made like a really bad

01:07:41 ◼   ► set of decisions one evening and you wake up

01:07:43 ◼   ► the next morning and you realize what you've done.

01:07:46 ◼   ► It's kind of how it felt.

01:07:47 ◼   ► - You had the edit of "Shame", that's what you had.

01:07:49 ◼   ► - The edit of "Shame".

01:07:50 ◼   ► - Yep, that's what you had.

01:07:51 ◼   ► Yeah, no new high-end audio product. Did they do the Apple Music keynote that they had announced?

01:07:58 ◼   ► Or like the video event or whatever it was?

01:08:00 ◼   ► It doesn't seem like it. No, I don't think they did.

01:08:02 ◼   ► No, I think that was just the stuff that they put out after the keynote.

01:08:05 ◼   ► Which is like the little videos inside of Apple Music that Zane Lowe did.

01:08:11 ◼   ► They're not videos, it's like some introduction to Apple Music,

01:08:15 ◼   ► special audio stuff that Zane Lowe is hosting.

01:08:19 ◼   ► I think the Apple Music team, I don't know what they're doing over there.

01:08:22 ◼   ► They're like sliding things into the application like,

01:08:26 ◼   ► "Hey, we're doing something special."

01:08:28 ◼   ► And then everyone goes wild.

01:08:29 ◼   ► Like, I don't know what's happening,

01:08:31 ◼   ► but they've got some different kind of marketing rules over there, I think.

01:08:34 ◼   ► Kind of like they live somewhere in between Apple and Beats, right?

01:08:38 ◼   ► Because Beats just does, as we're talking about, whatever it wants.

01:08:41 ◼   ► And maybe Apple Music is still kind of a little bit in that organization.

01:08:44 ◼   ► So they seem to have slightly different rules around what they can and can't tease and promote.

01:08:51 ◼   ► But yeah, no, there was no standalone deck.

01:08:55 ◼   ► There was none.

01:08:57 ◼   ► Okay.

01:09:00 ◼   ► So...

01:09:01 ◼   ► Final point.

01:09:02 ◼   ► Yeah. Final point.

01:09:04 ◼   ► We'll start with Federico. Federico got one regular pick right, but he missed his Ricky.

01:09:12 ◼   ► So that point goes away, so Federico has zero points.

01:09:16 ◼   ► Myke got both regular rounds correct,

01:09:21 ◼   ► but missed his Ricky, so he has one total point.

01:09:26 ◼   ► And I tied Federico. I got one round correct,

01:09:32 ◼   ► and I missed my Ricky, so Federico and I both have zero points,

01:09:36 ◼   ► and technically we're supposed to coin toss for second and third place,

01:09:41 ◼   ► place but Myke congratulations you are the keynote chairman hold on I'm

01:09:48 ◼   ► bringing in an external adjudicator

01:09:52 ◼   ► now I've won I am the winner congratulations to me congratulations

01:10:01 ◼   ► consolidation you have both accounts now so yep so we need to get that assigned

01:10:08 ◼   ► over to you. Oh I'm signing in as we speak. I am signing in. There we go. Okay, so

01:10:16 ◼   ► Federico, you and I are coin tossing it, so I'll let you pick what side of the

01:10:23 ◼   ► coin and Myke if you want to toss a coin. Yeah. We can decide who is second or

01:10:29 ◼   ► third mm-hmm someone's got a yes say Federico pick a side I'm feeding a

01:10:42 ◼   ► strong tails all right you're gonna go with tails all right you ready yeah yeah

01:10:50 ◼   ► flip a coin

01:10:54 ◼   ► okay so it didn't say it out loud which is not particularly exciting but I do

01:11:01 ◼   ► have the answer okay it's tails okay I cannot win a coin toss yes yes so it's

01:11:11 ◼   ► Myke Federico then Steven once again in parentheses at the bottom of our

01:11:16 ◼   ► document lost by coin toss but we're not done yet we have our flexes we need to

01:11:24 ◼   ► into those. Can I just take one moment to just bask in the fact that I currently

01:11:29 ◼   ► have both. I am both annual and keynote chairman. I have been threatened in the

01:11:33 ◼   ► consolidation and it's happening. My plan is to, if you want to get the tweets from

01:11:39 ◼   ► this account, I will be splitting my tweets in half. So one half of the tweet

01:11:45 ◼   ► will come from one account and the other half of the tweet will come from another

01:11:48 ◼   ► account so you both at annual chairman and that keynote chairman it's going to

01:11:54 ◼   ► be the only way to understand what I'm doing double chairman all the way mm-hmm

01:11:59 ◼   ► congratulations thank you congratulations congratulations are are

01:12:04 ◼   ► you a king an emperor what call I am the I haven't decided yet but there's gonna

01:12:10 ◼   ► be some kind of like his Royal Highness to consolidate a champion right right

01:12:16 ◼   ► Right, right. Well, I'm pleased you won here, Myke.

01:12:23 ◼   ► Gotta win somewhere.

01:12:25 ◼   ► You won fair and square here on this show. This is why we have the Bila Rickeys.

01:12:34 ◼   ► You need them. You need the really, really particular rules.

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01:15:01 ◼   ► - Flexi's time.

01:15:02 ◼   ► - Flexi's time.

01:15:04 ◼   ► Well, you have to appreciate my boldness here.

01:15:08 ◼   ► In fact, I do believe that I'm the moral winner of the Riki's.

01:15:12 ◼   ► Oh, jeez, here we go.

01:15:13 ◼   ► Because of my-- because of the boldness

01:15:16 ◼   ► that I demonstrated in my 10 flexes.

01:15:19 ◼   ► And your future donation.

01:15:21 ◼   ► Well, that's-- that's arguable.

01:15:23 ◼   ► We'll see about that.

01:15:25 ◼   ► But I do believe--

01:15:26 ◼   ► I consider myself the moral winner.

01:15:29 ◼   ► I consider myself an example because of what I've done.

01:15:32 ◼   ► I've inspired a new amendment to the Bill of Rickeys.

01:15:36 ◼   ► How many of you can say you've inspired a new law

01:15:39 ◼   ► to go into effect? - All of us.

01:15:40 ◼   ► Yeah, I'm pretty sure all of us have been.

01:15:42 ◼   ► - Well, I don't think so.

01:15:45 ◼   ► - No? Okay.

01:15:47 ◼   ► - I am declaring myself the moral winner of this episode

01:15:52 ◼   ► because of what I've done in the Flexis.

01:15:54 ◼   ► Anyway, I had 10 of them.

01:15:56 ◼   ► I'm gonna go through a list of them quickly.

01:16:00 ◼   ► Number one, the weather app comes to iPad.

01:16:03 ◼   ► Nope.

01:16:04 ◼   ► - How? - Number two.

01:16:05 ◼   ► - How do they not do that?

01:16:05 ◼   ► They've redesigned it on the phone.

01:16:08 ◼   ► Just didn't do it on the iPad.

01:16:10 ◼   ► - Number two, the files app gets new features.

01:16:14 ◼   ► (bell dings)

01:16:14 ◼   ► Yeah, some of them are new.

01:16:17 ◼   ► You can drag to select.

01:16:18 ◼   ► There's a progress bar when copying files.

01:16:21 ◼   ► - What a concept.

01:16:22 ◼   ► - The big stuff, you know?

01:16:24 ◼   ► Big features coming to files this year.

01:16:29 ◼   ► Number three, shortcuts gets new files actions.

01:16:32 ◼   ► (bell dings)

01:16:33 ◼   ► That's correct, we talked about them before.

01:16:36 ◼   ► Number four, better external display support on iPad.

01:16:40 ◼   ► Nah, they didn't do anything with just sad times.

01:16:44 ◼   ► I wanna talk about iPad multitasking

01:16:46 ◼   ► and iPadOS 15 eventually, not right now.

01:16:49 ◼   ► I don't know how I feel about it yet.

01:16:52 ◼   ► I'm sure, nah, look, I don't wanna be one of those people

01:16:56 ◼   ► like, oh no, they ruined it,

01:16:58 ◼   ► Let's go back to the days of iOS 9.

01:17:00 ◼   ► No, I just think that,

01:17:03 ◼   ► there's still some people like that out there.

01:17:05 ◼   ► I just think that there's some confusing aspects.

01:17:08 ◼   ► Maybe I just need to live with it some more.

01:17:09 ◼   ► We'll see, we'll talk about it soon.

01:17:12 ◼   ► Number five, iOS and iPadOS 15 get native HomeKit widgets.

01:17:17 ◼   ► No interactions, so likely because of that

01:17:21 ◼   ► also no HomeKit widgets either.

01:17:23 ◼   ► - That feels like the sidebar thing on the iPad

01:17:26 ◼   ► that once widgets are interactive, HomeKit will be like a,

01:17:29 ◼   ► I mean, it'd be awesome just to have a widget

01:17:30 ◼   ► and just like turn off a light by touching the widget.

01:17:33 ◼   ► That'd be cool.

01:17:34 ◼   ► - Yeah, there's kind of no point to have a HomeKit widget

01:17:38 ◼   ► if you can't do anything with it.

01:17:40 ◼   ► - Number six, the passwords feature of settings

01:17:44 ◼   ► becomes a standalone application.

01:17:47 ◼   ► No, but it did, it continues to gain

01:17:50 ◼   ► some really nice features.

01:17:52 ◼   ► And it's a system preference pane on macOS.

01:17:56 ◼   ► - Yep.

01:17:57 ◼   ► - But it's not, it's not a standalone app.

01:17:59 ◼   ► - It's now a preference pane.

01:18:01 ◼   ► You can now scan QR codes

01:18:03 ◼   ► for two-factor authentication codes.

01:18:05 ◼   ► Apple has a bunch of sessions

01:18:07 ◼   ► on how they're taking advantage of passwords

01:18:10 ◼   ► and the keychain to actually go beyond passwords.

01:18:12 ◼   ► And they're telling developers,

01:18:14 ◼   ► "Look, there's all these new APIs and technologies

01:18:16 ◼   ► that you can use to more easily sign users into your app,

01:18:20 ◼   ► whether you're using iOS, iPadOS, or tvOS.

01:18:23 ◼   ► They have a brand new system for signing users

01:18:26 ◼   ► into an Apple TV app just by using your Apple device

01:18:29 ◼   ► in the iCloud kitchen, but still in settings,

01:18:32 ◼   ► no standalone app.

01:18:34 ◼   ► Number seven, Apple updates the Listen Now page of music.

01:18:38 ◼   ► Now, this is a point, Steven, please ring the thing,

01:18:41 ◼   ► because they did update it.

01:18:46 ◼   ► There's the new--

01:18:48 ◼   ► - Okay, good.

01:18:49 ◼   ► There's the new "Shared with you" section.

01:18:53 ◼   ► It's literally the only--

01:18:54 ◼   ► Oh, yeah.

01:18:55 ◼   ► It is literally the only change in that page.

01:18:58 ◼   ► What do you think of this, by the way, the two of you?

01:19:00 ◼   ► I'm intrigued.

01:19:01 ◼   ► What do you think about this new "Shared with you" thing?

01:19:04 ◼   ► Gimmicky.

01:19:05 ◼   ► That's what I'm going to say.

01:19:06 ◼   ► It's one of those things that, yes, it's cool in theory,

01:19:09 ◼   ► but why--

01:19:11 ◼   ► like, I don't want to visit Apple News.

01:19:13 ◼   ► Like, I don't want to use Apple News.

01:19:15 ◼   ► I don't care about opening links in Apple News.

01:19:18 ◼   ► "Share with you for music" is probably how I'm going to be using this feature the most,

01:19:24 ◼   ► because we do have a group chat with Myke and One True John, where we exchange a lot of music links,

01:19:31 ◼   ► and I could see that being useful. But I don't know, it's one of those features that Apple shows off.

01:19:38 ◼   ► Yeah, I'll say that's true for me too. The music one is the only one that I could imagine ever

01:19:44 ◼   ► never find it useful. The two of you share a lot of music, mostly with each other, but

01:19:48 ◼   ► I'm there. That's the way it tends to go. Every now and then I give something. And I

01:19:55 ◼   ► don't really always add the stuff to the library, but if I'm looking for something new to listen

01:19:59 ◼   ► to it could be there. But my kind of feeling on this is I do things with stuff that people

01:20:03 ◼   ► send me or I don't. It's not like I need to be reminded later on.

01:20:08 ◼   ► Look all these links that Stephen sent, that all these people sent you.

01:20:13 ◼   ► Like, what do you... It feels like another inbox that I need to worry about, and I really don't want to worry about it.

01:20:19 ◼   ► And it's really like 15 new inboxes because it's in music, and it's in Safari, and like...

01:20:27 ◼   ► News, podcasts, photos. It's like a system-wide layer that...

01:20:33 ◼   ► Yeah, I almost think it'd make more sense if it was in a single place.

01:20:38 ◼   ► maybe along with things you say in Safari Reading List.

01:20:41 ◼   ► I'm gonna give you... Yeah, there continues to be this weird separation between,

01:20:46 ◼   ► "Oh, you can save stuff in Apple News, but you can also save stuff in Reading List."

01:20:50 ◼   ► Let's not even talk about how hard it is now to access your bookmarks and Reading List

01:20:57 ◼   ► in the new Safari on iPhone. This is another conversation that we gotta have at some point

01:21:01 ◼   ► soon. I know that Steven wants to talk about the new Safari as well, so we're gonna talk

01:21:08 ◼   ► about that soon. But I'm gonna give you a one million dollar idea. Okay. Let me out.

01:21:19 ◼   ► Reminders shared with you. When you don't want to do something, you just share it with

01:21:23 ◼   ► somebody else and they land on their inbox. Here's another one, here's another one,

01:21:32 ◼   ► mail shared with you. That's good, that's good. What about phone calls? Like, you know,

01:21:37 ◼   ► if like someone calls you and you don't talk to them? Here's another one, here's another

01:21:40 ◼   ► one, workouts shared with you. That's my favorite one. That's it, that's the one I want to do

01:21:49 ◼   ► the list. You do it.

01:21:51 ◼   ► Hey, let me share this 20-mile run with you. Can you do it for me? No, but yeah, so we

01:21:59 ◼   ► were saying number seven. Number eight, iOS 15 drops support for the iPhone 6S. Nope,

01:22:05 ◼   ► same devices that were supported by iOS 14 will run 15. The iPhone 6S lives on alongside

01:22:13 ◼   ► the Apple Watch Series 3, which can be upgraded to WatchOS 8.

01:22:17 ◼   ► You know, you gotta admire you gotta admire Apple supporting all devices at which point does it become a problem?

01:22:24 ◼   ► I think it already is a problem for the

01:22:26 ◼   ► Honestly, the biggest surprise for me though more than the success is the series 3 watch

01:22:31 ◼   ► Yeah, that that's a bigger surprise for me like you gotta get rid of it at some point

01:22:37 ◼   ► Like you can't keep dragging that thing along. Well, and now the update

01:22:41 ◼   ► Basically, like hey, we're gonna restore your watch is gonna take a couple hours

01:22:45 ◼   ► Like I've got a friend who has a series 3 and he's like, what is this?

01:22:48 ◼   ► I was like well a bunch of people had failed updates and so they're playing it safe with the new process

01:22:53 ◼   ► Not only is it old technology to support but it's they also represent

01:22:58 ◼   ► older screens right because the series 3 is the last small original watch design and

01:23:05 ◼   ► the guts of the 6s were also in the original

01:23:10 ◼   ► iPhone SE and

01:23:13 ◼   ► And so that, I guess that thing's still hanging around too.

01:23:16 ◼   ► Keep these things around forever, why not?

01:23:17 ◼   ► I know.

01:23:19 ◼   ► Number nine.

01:23:20 ◼   ► Number nine, the next version of iOS

01:23:23 ◼   ► lets you change icons for apps natively

01:23:26 ◼   ► without using shortcuts or custom profiles.

01:23:30 ◼   ► Nope.

01:23:31 ◼   ► They didn't do that.

01:23:33 ◼   ► And finally, number 10.

01:23:36 ◼   ► And also, by the way, I should mention,

01:23:37 ◼   ► you cannot turn off the confirmation banners

01:23:40 ◼   ► for shortcuts either,

01:23:42 ◼   ► so that when you launch one of those custom icons on the home screen, you still see that checkmark

01:23:48 ◼   ► that pops down from the top and blocks interactions on screen for a second? Why?

01:23:54 ◼   ► I mean, you literally brought shortcuts to the Mac and added support for a command line tool,

01:24:01 ◼   ► an AppleScript, and shell scripting, but you don't trust your users enough to turn off a

01:24:07 ◼   ► confirmation banner. Sure. Number 10. Is that? There's a new way to turn off confirmation

01:24:14 ◼   ► banners for shortcuts. So number 10 was that. I liked that. It was kind of funny to me.

01:24:20 ◼   ► It's like you got so mad you hadn't even read ahead and I'm like, yep, that you're about

01:24:25 ◼   ► to come across this again. I'm very good at preambles. So yeah, I got three out of ten,

01:24:34 ◼   ► and seven... it's a whole bag of sadness over here. How are you feeling about ten?

01:24:41 ◼   ► Oh I feel great! I feel like I'm losing with honor and my boldness will be

01:24:50 ◼   ► remembered because it inspired an amendment to the Bill of Rickeys. I mean

01:24:54 ◼   ► if you lose you're gonna be losing more than just honor you will be

01:24:58 ◼   ► losing a cool $175. It is for a good cause. Well you don't know what the cause is yet.

01:25:05 ◼   ► Well it must be a charity and all charities supposed to be good. No that's not true.

01:25:11 ◼   ► Oh come on you're not gonna pick a terrible charity. Who knows who knows who's picking.

01:25:17 ◼   ► Okay I propose an amendment to the bill of riches. Must be a good good charity.

01:25:25 ◼   ► Uh, is that going to be an official amendment? I mean, I can change the document.

01:25:28 ◼   ► No, it's not. No, we're not going to make that.

01:25:30 ◼   ► Okay, well now with people tracking these things, we need to be careful. Okay, so you got three

01:25:35 ◼   ► right and a whopping seven wrong. Myke, you had six flexies. Let's see how you did.

01:25:42 ◼   ► Flexy number one, new MacBook Pro.

01:25:44 ◼   ► Nope.

01:25:45 ◼   ► That did not happen.

01:25:46 ◼   ► Nope.

01:25:46 ◼   ► Flexy number two, preview of the Apple Silicon Mac Pro.

01:25:49 ◼   ► Nope.

01:25:51 ◼   ► That did not happen. Number three, the Home app gets redesigned.

01:25:54 ◼   ► So, it did on the watch, but nowhere else.

01:26:00 ◼   ► And I didn't say which one.

01:26:04 ◼   ► So technically...

01:26:05 ◼   ► No!

01:26:06 ◼   ► It isn't what I meant.

01:26:07 ◼   ► It isn't what I meant.

01:26:08 ◼   ► I'll tell you that.

01:26:09 ◼   ► But technically...

01:26:10 ◼   ► The pic is what it's written in the document.

01:26:14 ◼   ► That's true.

01:26:15 ◼   ► The pic says the whole map gets redesigned.

01:26:18 ◼   ► This is a point.

01:26:20 ◼   ► I didn't mean it, but it's...

01:26:23 ◼   ► New features for FaceTime, number four.

01:26:26 ◼   ► Killed it.

01:26:27 ◼   ► I was very right on that one.

01:26:28 ◼   ► All the features.

01:26:29 ◼   ► Way more.

01:26:30 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:26:31 ◼   ► The bell, Steven, the bell.

01:26:32 ◼   ► Ring the bell, please.

01:26:34 ◼   ► Yes.

01:26:35 ◼   ► You are the Nostradamus.

01:26:36 ◼   ► Is Nostradamus the hunchback of Nostradamus?

01:26:40 ◼   ► No, it's a different name.

01:26:42 ◼   ► No, Nostradamus is the guy with the prophecies, I think.

01:26:45 ◼   ► What's the character's name?

01:26:48 ◼   ► Five, new notification, Quasimodo.

01:26:51 ◼   ► Thank you.

01:26:52 ◼   ► Thank you, everyone in the Discord.

01:26:53 ◼   ► - Some confusion you got. - My brain is like "Notre Dame, Nostradamus must be the same!"

01:27:02 ◼   ► No, not the same. Five new notification management options. What do we think about these?

01:27:10 ◼   ► - Potentially great. I think it's one of the things where I'm feeling optimistic about that.

01:27:20 ◼   ► A good way to gauge the reaction from common people, for me at least, is to show the stuff

01:27:27 ◼   ► to Sylvia.

01:27:28 ◼   ► And when I see that Sylvia approves of something new, it's usually a good sign.

01:27:33 ◼   ► She's got a good pulse on what people are going to like in an update on the iPhone.

01:27:38 ◼   ► And the idea of setting, like I described it as, you can make your own custom Do Not

01:27:44 ◼   ► Disturb, and you can combine that with notifications.

01:27:48 ◼   ► I think it's something really compelling for a lot of people.

01:27:50 ◼   ► Yep, similarly, I was watching the keynote with Vadino and that point was like, "Oh,

01:27:55 ◼   ► that seems good."

01:27:56 ◼   ► It's like, I know I like the sound of it, I know Gray's gonna love it.

01:28:00 ◼   ► Well, I assume Gray's gonna love it, but that doesn't necessarily mean that this stuff is

01:28:03 ◼   ► enjoyed by anybody else.

01:28:05 ◼   ► I've been poking around with that, the focus stuff, and it's really interesting.

01:28:10 ◼   ► I'm not so personally that interested in that notification summary thing.

01:28:14 ◼   ► I enabled it.

01:28:17 ◼   ► I have two schedules, one at 10am, another at 8pm.

01:28:20 ◼   ► In fact, mine was delivered just a couple of hours ago.

01:28:24 ◼   ► It's still here, by the way.

01:28:25 ◼   ► Oh, ok, here it is.

01:28:28 ◼   ► It's nice, but the interactions are a little bit weird.

01:28:32 ◼   ► Like I thought that you could open the... tap on the notification summary card to get

01:28:39 ◼   ► like a bigger preview, but instead, there's no bigger preview.

01:28:45 ◼   ► All you can do is tap on the badge number to collapse the summary into individual notifications.

01:28:53 ◼   ► That's all you can do.

01:28:55 ◼   ► So in theory, I like the idea.

01:28:56 ◼   ► I wish there was like a...

01:28:58 ◼   ► I actually used to roll a similar system years ago using Zapier.

01:29:03 ◼   ► I would have a Notification Digest.

01:29:04 ◼   ► Oh, I remember that.

01:29:05 ◼   ► You put it into Slack, right?

01:29:06 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:29:07 ◼   ► I had a Notification Digest collecting updates from different places that was delivered to

01:29:14 ◼   ► me in the morning and in the evening. Literally the same concept.

01:29:19 ◼   ► This was part of that time where everybody wanted to set up their morning brief. That

01:29:24 ◼   ► was like a thing we all wanted to do for a while, right?

01:29:26 ◼   ► Yes, it was a thing. And this is what it is. I don't know. We'll see about that. But everything

01:29:32 ◼   ► else, they have a new system for notifications where they can be time sensitive, they can

01:29:37 ◼   ► be critical, important or passive. Like that stuff, I don't think developers were really

01:29:43 ◼   ► adopted. I wish there, like, I would prefer if I could, I as a user, if I could set notifications

01:29:52 ◼   ► and I could decide, oh, this is not important, this is time sensitive, like, I'm not sure

01:29:57 ◼   ► if I can do that or if it's only up to developers to support that in the API. But the focus

01:30:04 ◼   ► stuff and the controls, those are really good. And I like how you can define people, for

01:30:10 ◼   ► example, and so if you say, "I want to be notified by Myke," if developers add support

01:30:16 ◼   ► for that API, the same person will apply, regardless of whether Myke is using iMessage

01:30:23 ◼   ► or WhatsApp or Telegram, right? It'll just see the person, Myke, getting in touch with

01:30:29 ◼   ► me, and it will allow that person to break through the focus status.

01:30:33 ◼   ► Yeah, I like the thought of this. I like the sound of this. I'm intrigued to see how I

01:30:38 ◼   ► will be able to tell the system, you know, like how can I tell Slack that this is

01:30:44 ◼   ► Federico? I mean and especially when like I was setting this up yesterday and for

01:30:48 ◼   ► some reason I have two contact cards for Adina. Why? Why is that? Why do I have

01:30:53 ◼   ► that? You know I have so many problems with my contacts. My contacts are a

01:30:58 ◼   ► disaster and so which is a bit of a shame for me but that's just how it is.

01:31:02 ◼   ► Ah, the last one. Smoother or faster animations in iOS tools for developers.

01:31:09 ◼   ► This one came out right. This was very intriguing to me.

01:31:15 ◼   ► So they have a session on Friday called "Optimize for Variable Refresh Rate Displays" which

01:31:21 ◼   ► I think is enough to just like, "Yep, cool. That was what I was talking about."

01:31:24 ◼   ► Yeah, I think so.

01:31:26 ◼   ► Alright, so you have four flexes correct mm-hmm and two incorrect mm-hmm good job

01:31:34 ◼   ► Mac OS skips ahead to version 15 to match iOS and iPad OS

01:31:41 ◼   ► That didn't happen. What were you thinking? Yeah?

01:31:45 ◼   ► I was bold of you all the same number new

01:31:48 ◼   ► No, not new no new Mac notebooks are announced

01:31:55 ◼   ► People thought I was gonna lose this one, but I had faith that Apple was not ready

01:31:59 ◼   ► You had faith in no faith. The next version of Mac OS comes with a redesign to debut

01:32:04 ◼   ► It's exactly the same

01:32:07 ◼   ► No, no, they didn't do anything about the notifications. Nothing. It's exactly the same real shame. That's a real real shame

01:32:13 ◼   ► Yeah, hope this is something that could change during the beta process. I

01:32:19 ◼   ► Would hope so, but I'm not I'm not holding my breath. That's a real shame

01:32:24 ◼   ► We get some happy messaging from Apple about how much they value developers.

01:32:30 ◼   ► Well money too apparently. And money. 200 and something billion. Mm-hmm.

01:32:36 ◼   ► 50 billion went to Epic probably. Apple unveils a new external display. I don't

01:32:45 ◼   ► know if I brought this up last time but it was intriguing to me that you picked

01:32:50 ◼   ► no new Mac notebooks. Yes. They will do an external display. Yeah. Do you want me to go through this?

01:32:55 ◼   ► Look, I'm a complicated man. It's probably exactly what I said last week.

01:32:59 ◼   ► So Federico, you owe $175 to the charity of Myke's Choice.

01:33:05 ◼   ► Myke, do you want to hook Federico up with that? Yeah, Federico, I would like

01:33:10 ◼   ► you to donate to Stonewall. So considering that it's Pride Month, I

01:33:16 ◼   ► wanted the donation to go towards a charity that supports the rights of

01:33:19 ◼   ► people in the LGBTQ+ community and Stonewall felt like a good choice for

01:33:24 ◼   ► this. This is a charity that I've been aware of here in the UK for a long time.

01:33:27 ◼   ► Is it stonewall.org.uk? Yep I sent a donation link in iMessage. So their

01:33:35 ◼   ► message is pretty clear. They say we imagine a world where all LGBTQ+ people

01:33:40 ◼   ► are free to be ourselves and can live our lives to the full and they do a lot

01:33:44 ◼   ► of work in helping institutions better support their people like workplaces and

01:33:48 ◼   ► schools so I'd like to help people understand and do like training and

01:33:52 ◼   ► support and they also do a lot of work in legislation especially here in the UK

01:33:57 ◼   ► so Stonewall is who I would like you to donate a hundred and seventy five dollars

01:34:02 ◼   ► to please beautiful okay so how can I do this some other amount okay specify the

01:34:12 ◼   ► Oh it says in pounds. Okay so I will... 170 let's ask Siri. What is 175 dollars in pounds? 124 pounds.

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01:34:49 ◼   ► Title, what's my title?

01:34:50 ◼   ► The loser.

01:34:53 ◼   ► Loser.

01:34:54 ◼   ► (laughing)

01:34:54 ◼   ► Loser of the flexes.

01:34:58 ◼   ► Yep, I'm sure this is gonna go through.

01:35:00 ◼   ► First name. No problem.

01:35:01 ◼   ► Further, it did.

01:35:03 ◼   ► Last name will be teaching.

01:35:04 ◼   ► And the street address, oh, the one my address.

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01:36:37 ◼   ► How's it going Federico? I'm still... Still working on it? I mean it's a fantastic initiative but their mobile form is really slow to use.

01:36:46 ◼   ► Okay, 76% completed. Excellent! Congratulations! 82%! Oh my god, we love to keep... email, email for sure.

01:36:57 ◼   ► Are they asking you questions?

01:36:59 ◼   ► Yeah, a lot of them.

01:37:00 ◼   ► Okay, we're now...

01:37:01 ◼   ► I'm paying now.

01:37:03 ◼   ► Don't you want to wait for that?

01:37:04 ◼   ► You know, it's a dramatic moment.

01:37:06 ◼   ► Submit and pay.

01:37:07 ◼   ► All right?

01:37:08 ◼   ► It's spinning the wheel.

01:37:10 ◼   ► And it is done.

01:37:13 ◼   ► Very dramatic, donating to Stonewall.

01:37:15 ◼   ► Is it done now?

01:37:16 ◼   ► I think so.

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01:37:19 ◼   ► I got an email from...

01:37:20 ◼   ► Wonderful.

01:37:21 ◼   ► Thank you for the donation.

01:37:22 ◼   ► Absolutely.

01:37:24 ◼   ► Stephen, are you playing around with any of the betas?

01:37:25 ◼   ► Yep.

01:37:26 ◼   ► I have Mac OS Monterey on a laptop and it is remarkably like Big Sur. I think a lot of the

01:37:34 ◼   ► features are so dependent on other people having the beta and I haven't tried any of that stuff yet

01:37:39 ◼   ► with anybody. I think over the next couple weeks we'll start you know trying to watch movies

01:37:43 ◼   ► together and stuff but Monterey's fine you know don't run it on your primary device. Shortcuts is

01:37:51 ◼   ► definitely buggy but very present and that's really cool. I have not played

01:37:56 ◼   ► with 15 yet anywhere though I'm gonna put it on my iPad Pro probably this

01:38:02 ◼   ► evening or sometime tomorrow. Yeah shortcuts is a bit a bit janktastic on

01:38:07 ◼   ► the iPad as well too. It kind of always is during during beta season. It's a

01:38:12 ◼   ► complicated piece of software and I think is more so this time. I've noticed

01:38:18 ◼   ► that it's pretty tricky to move things around inside of a shortcut at the moment.

01:38:23 ◼   ► I found that to be a little bit tricky. But overall, iPadOS 15 is very

01:38:31 ◼   ► smooth, it's feeling very good to me. Federico, I know you've probably

01:38:35 ◼   ► installed everything, right?

01:38:37 ◼   ► I have iOS, iPadOS, and WatchOS going at the moment.

01:38:43 ◼   ► I'm really happy overall with iPadOS. As I said, some questions about

01:38:50 ◼   ► multitasking, what it means, the changes to multi-window. I finally

01:38:58 ◼   ► got a shelf, and it is called the "Shelf", but it's not a...

01:39:02 ◼   ► Oh, we didn't even talk about that.

01:39:04 ◼   ► I want to talk about all of these things next week, maybe, after having used all these

01:39:09 ◼   ► things for a while. It's not the shelf that I was expecting, which makes me sad, but there's

01:39:15 ◼   ► some, I guess my only concern right now, couple of days into using it on my iPad, is there's

01:39:22 ◼   ► a, I can see why some people will say, are they just putting a Band-Aid on top of something

01:39:29 ◼   ► that is inherently broken, right, as a multitasking system? And I don't fully agree with that,

01:39:36 ◼   ► I sort of understand the argument in certain places of the OS, so I want to talk about

01:39:41 ◼   ► all of this more in-depth next week. I'm really happy with shortcuts, and I think I'm going

01:39:46 ◼   ► to be able to do some real fancy things with file system access, and I'm really happy that

01:39:51 ◼   ► I chose to go all-in with Obsidian, because all of these actions, they work out of the

01:39:56 ◼   ► box with my new Not Taking Setup. Again, because it's just a folder of markdown files in the

01:40:02 ◼   ► system. So I think I'm going to be able to do some great things with automation and the

01:40:06 ◼   ► new shortcut actions. And lastly, it's going to be fun to set up multiple home screens,

01:40:13 ◼   ► and especially the home screen and iPad, by combining widgets and focus modes. So that

01:40:20 ◼   ► I think is something that I'm going to be spending a lot of time tinkering with this

01:40:24 ◼   ► summer, coming up with different systems for--I can automate a focus mode for recording podcasts

01:40:31 ◼   ► podcasts and showing specific timers and opening specific apps, like all kinds of

01:40:36 ◼   ► things that I can do. Also when it comes to editing the review or writing the

01:40:40 ◼   ► review, right, having these different workspaces, all things that I can do with

01:40:44 ◼   ► widgets and focus modes and shortcuts. So these three things coming together, I

01:40:50 ◼   ► have a pretty good sense of where the review will go in terms of core ideas

01:40:56 ◼   ► and examples. Just a few things I want to talk about regarding multitasking next.

01:41:01 ◼   ► week. Yeah it is something that while it's similar there it is new and I'm

01:41:08 ◼   ► still getting used to the best way to use it. Like I think it's one of those

01:41:13 ◼   ► things that's gonna take a few days more to really settle opinions on it because

01:41:20 ◼   ► there is definitely some changes there. Yeah but aside from that I found the

01:41:25 ◼   ► iPadOS beta to be really solid. Who knows how long that will last for if it

01:41:31 ◼   ► will right? Like I don't know and there's a bunch of stuff that we just don't have

01:41:36 ◼   ► access to and neither have we tried. Like if any of you tried any of the

01:41:40 ◼   ► share play features or anything? No not yet, not yet. I don't even know if you can.

01:41:44 ◼   ► Well I need to have somebody else on iOS 15 I guess. You can call me

01:41:50 ◼   ► watch a movie together. This beta process is just gonna be everyone hanging out

01:41:54 ◼   ► with Viti a lot. Yeah I think so. Just gonna watch movies of everyone, playing games with everyone, it's gonna be awesome.

01:41:58 ◼   ► Oh, yeah, you gotta prepare for that big time. Yes. I can't wait. Yeah

01:42:02 ◼   ► We're gonna watch some movies together. It'd be nice. You can watch Star Wars before we wrap up

01:42:08 ◼   ► Obviously there's a lot of stuff still going on

01:42:10 ◼   ► Is there anything the two of you feel like has been a big miss that we haven't touched on?

01:42:15 ◼   ► like stuff that you're kind of really disappointed about or

01:42:19 ◼   ► Things that didn't go the way that you wanted them to is there anything that jumps out at you?

01:42:25 ◼   ► I mean obviously that we didn't get anything external display focused.

01:42:30 ◼   ► I was about to say that, yeah.

01:42:32 ◼   ► I would have liked to see more like a clearer message from Apple on why is the M1 iPad Pro

01:42:41 ◼   ► necessary.

01:42:42 ◼   ► I think there's still a missing story there and the new stuff in iPadOS doesn't really

01:42:45 ◼   ► explain it because there's still the old memory cap on third-party apps.

01:42:51 ◼   ► So there really still is a missing story for the M1 iPad Pro.

01:42:56 ◼   ► And I think there's a big miss in having the second...

01:43:02 ◼   ► Having a follow-up to home screen customization in iOS 14.

01:43:07 ◼   ► That is a real disappointment for me.

01:43:09 ◼   ► I really thought Apple was going to recognize just how much people loved personalization

01:43:15 ◼   ► last year and instead they decided to focus on things like SharePlay and these FaceTime

01:43:23 ◼   ► features and I really think that come September those functionalities will feel to an extent

01:43:30 ◼   ► instantly old and it would have been so much nicer to see like a big upgrade for home screen

01:43:37 ◼   ► customization that didn't grow old but I think a lot of folks will be disappointed by

01:43:44 ◼   ► "Oh, this update doesn't really change anything for me," which was a big driver for updates

01:43:51 ◼   ► last year, right? All the excitement surrounding widgets and home screens. And those same people

01:43:58 ◼   ► are going to be disappointed this year because nothing is changing there. So that's too bad.

01:44:02 ◼   ► Yeah. I will say from developers that I've spoken to and also listening to Under the

01:44:06 ◼   ► Radar, I think developers are pleased, though, that there isn't anything huge that they need

01:44:11 ◼   ► to work on this summer.

01:44:12 ◼   ► Oh yeah, if you're a developer, what are you gonna be working on?

01:44:16 ◼   ► There's some changes to iPad navigation, right?

01:44:19 ◼   ► And there's the new focus engine, the new iPad keyboard navigation,

01:44:23 ◼   ► changes to keyboard shortcuts, but that's pretty much it.

01:44:26 ◼   ► Like, what else?

01:44:29 ◼   ► There's lots of little things you can integrate.

01:44:30 ◼   ► Some people have more work to do than others.

01:44:32 ◼   ► Maybe you can implement some stuff that you haven't already done before.

01:44:36 ◼   ► But there isn't like that feature this year that everyone's gonna do.

01:44:41 ◼   ► So take that for what you will.

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01:45:15 ◼   ► You can find Federico on Twitter at Vitici, V I T I C C I.

01:45:19 ◼   ► He's the editor in chief of Mac stories.net where y'all are just killing it this week

01:45:23 ◼   ► with the WWDC stuff.

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01:45:29 ◼   ► Look for Mac power users episode 592 this week.

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01:45:41 ◼   ► Adios, that's you.

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