Connected

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00:00:08 ◼   ► Hello and welcome to Connected, episode 287.

00:00:12 ◼   ► It's made possible this week by our sponsors Pingdom, Smile, Hover, and Mack Weldon.

00:00:17 ◼   ► My name is Stephen Hackett and I am joined by Mr. Myke Hurley.

00:00:20 ◼   ► Ahoy!

00:00:22 ◼   ► Oh, that is brisk.

00:00:24 ◼   ► Mm-hmm.

00:00:25 ◼   ► Like the salty sea air of which I'm from.

00:00:29 ◼   ► I am a sailor now.

00:00:30 ◼   ► Are you?

00:00:31 ◼   ► I've been to your house, it's not really near the ocean, but...

00:00:34 ◼   ► Well, I am not allowed to leave my house, so I'm liking to believe that my home is a

00:00:39 ◼   ► boat now, and it's sailing out to sea, and that's me.

00:00:44 ◼   ► Or you're just spending a lot of time in the bathtub.

00:00:47 ◼   ► Rub-a-dub-dub, my friend.

00:00:49 ◼   ► Wait, what?

00:00:50 ◼   ► I don't know, man.

00:00:51 ◼   ► Leave me alone.

00:00:52 ◼   ► I'm losing it.

00:00:54 ◼   ► Also, joined by Mr. Federico Vittucci.

00:00:58 ◼   ► Hello, hi, how are you? I'm good. Are you in the tub? No, not at the moment

00:01:03 ◼   ► Sylvia Sylvia is right now, but I'm not

00:01:07 ◼   ► Anyway, I just felt like you should know

00:01:14 ◼   ► Are you a bath person Federico? I really am not I

00:01:20 ◼   ► I am unable to relax

00:01:22 ◼   ► Yeah, I can't really do it anymore after I my back injury

00:01:27 ◼   ► Yeah, bathtubs are pretty bad for me now, but I was never a big bath person anyway. I've always been a shower guy

00:01:34 ◼   ► Yeah, like a nice hot shower. Well, they're different. Okay, they're different things. A shower is for cleansing your body from the

00:01:40 ◼   ► No, I disagree. I love thinking while I'm doing the shower. Like I just stand there for like 10 minutes.

00:01:49 ◼   ► I listen to podcasts in the shower because I have waterproof fun

00:01:53 ◼   ► And I have a little shelf in my shower like at home and the phone goes on it

00:01:58 ◼   ► It's like there's like a wired shell like back into the shelf

00:02:01 ◼   ► so my pop socket just hooks back onto it great and I listen to my podcasts and

00:02:05 ◼   ► Relax in the nice hot shower. Okay. Yeah. Well, okay

00:02:10 ◼   ► So I agree with all that

00:02:11 ◼   ► But but my point was a bath in my view and I am a bath person a bath is not to clean yourself

00:02:18 ◼   ► You're sitting in your own filth

00:02:19 ◼   ► it is to get it as hot as you can stand it and to relax and I find it very nice

00:02:24 ◼   ► I really like a bath I do believe that you can clean yourself in a bath I don't

00:02:29 ◼   ► prescribe to the sitting in your own filth mentality depends on how dirty you

00:02:33 ◼   ► are you'd be surprised how many times I text you guys in the evenings from the

00:02:36 ◼   ► bathtub no I wouldn't be surprised because I know what you do like because

00:02:40 ◼   ► sometimes you just tell us and the fact that you tell us means it must happen a

00:02:44 ◼   ► lot because I don't think I've ever told you that I'm in the bath because I don't

00:02:48 ◼   ► take baths that often. I do it like, I would like to do it like once a week. Sometimes

00:02:52 ◼   ► it's just a couple times a month, but I find it very nice. The thing about the sitting

00:02:57 ◼   ► in your own field thing is like, if you are that dirt you shouldn't be taking a bath,

00:03:01 ◼   ► like that's on you, right? Okay, I go with that. Yeah, like if I go mountain biking and

00:03:07 ◼   ► I'm covered in dirt, I'm gonna take a shower, right? I'm not gonna sit in the tub with like

00:03:11 ◼   ► debris floating around me. Because then you need two baths, at least. Yeah. Well everybody,

00:03:16 ◼   ► to Connected, a show about technology. But bathing. About bathing. We have some follow-up

00:03:22 ◼   ► good news. People like the MacBook Air. Myke, you and Jason talked about this on Upgrade this week.

00:03:28 ◼   ► Jason had a review on six colors. We also have in the show notes a link to Gruber's review and one

00:03:35 ◼   ► by MKBHD and one by our friend Austin Evans. Our co-worker Austin Evans. Co-worker, yep. Co-worker.

00:03:44 ◼   ► It seems it seems awesome. People seem to really like it. We had gotten some tweets about the base

00:03:49 ◼   ► CPU being an i3 and I looked at Geekbench just a couple minutes ago, and there's not a lot of 2020

00:03:56 ◼   ► MacBook Airs on there yet. But from what I read, in my understanding with the process change,

00:04:01 ◼   ► because these are now using the the smaller die, that the i3 should be as fast or faster than the

00:04:08 ◼   ► old i5 so don't let the label confuse you it's it's kind of because the way the way these new uh

00:04:15 ◼   ► this new generation of chips goes together like the i3 i5 i7 that branding is a little confusing

00:04:20 ◼   ► between the generations i hate that two generations of macbook arago had i3s in like it's like it's

00:04:27 ◼   ► it's too confusing i don't like that like they kind of settled on that branding well eventually

00:04:32 ◼   ► it'll be our max and it'll just be you know the this was powered by the m1 and the next year is

00:04:38 ◼   ► the m2x and next year the m3z so it will get better m3z plus pro max i'm pretty confident

00:04:48 ◼   ► that this will be the machine that i'd like to replace my mac blue pro i feel pretty confident

00:04:54 ◼   ► now do you yeah i thought you were gonna wait for the for the mythical 14-inch macbook pro

00:05:01 ◼   ► I don't think I need it. I've not completely decided, but I'm pretty confident that this

00:05:10 ◼   ► will be the mixture of power and portability that I've been looking for.

00:05:13 ◼   ► I think he should do it. We talked about this last week. I had an Instagram live thing with

00:05:19 ◼   ► Casey the other day, trying to tell him not to buy MacBook Air, that he should wait for the MacBook

00:05:23 ◼   ► Pro because he's doing Swift UI development. You are not. So I don't think you need to.

00:05:28 ◼   ► You think it's not. Yeah, I might be. 1, 2, 3. Swift calendar. Yeah, Swift calendar.

00:05:36 ◼   ► I'm not pulling the trigger anytime soon because I need it for my studio, which I legally

00:05:44 ◼   ► am not allowed to go to. So I'm going to leave it a little bit longer. But I think

00:05:50 ◼   ► that I will probably have, will probably want to do this or be in a position to do this

00:05:56 ◼   ► before Apple releases the next MacBook Pro because I actually think we're quite a way

00:06:02 ◼   ► away from that now, like probably past June. I don't know.

00:06:06 ◼   ► I felt like if it was going to happen, it would be with those machines or maybe today,

00:06:11 ◼   ► like a week later. But I think you're right. I think now the windows closed.

00:06:14 ◼   ► Yeah. And I don't know if it's going to be June or if they will wait until maybe the

00:06:20 ◼   ► next revision of the larger MacBook Pro, which could be towards the fall. I just haven't

00:06:26 ◼   ► decided in my mind when I think it's going to be now. It's like that. This was the time

00:06:31 ◼   ► and it's not now. So who knows when? Yeah, I think I think air would be a good choice.

00:06:36 ◼   ► I think you would enjoy that machine. Yeah, I think it's I think it's what I need. We

00:06:40 ◼   ► spoke last time about the the magic keyboard coming in May for the new iPads Pro iPad pros.

00:06:47 ◼   ► And just a little note. So Dr. Drang did this this blog post probably a lot of people have

00:06:52 ◼   ► at this point, him talking about like the, is it going to tip over in your lap? And because

00:06:57 ◼   ► Drang is an engineer...

00:06:58 ◼   ► Yeah, I didn't really understand this article. I'm sorry.

00:07:01 ◼   ► It is very confusing, but...

00:07:03 ◼   ► Was he arguing like, like is he saying that it's actually going to work or not? Like what's

00:07:08 ◼   ► the conclusion?

00:07:09 ◼   ► That it will work. And basically he's explaining that this is why it should work. But there

00:07:15 ◼   ► is, it still kind of remains to be seen what would happen on non-flat surfaces, basically.

00:07:21 ◼   ► And what's with the music video at the end?

00:07:25 ◼   ► It's in regards to a reference he made in the line before.

00:07:30 ◼   ► I get it.

00:07:31 ◼   ► That's what he does.

00:07:32 ◼   ► He's a very musical person.

00:07:33 ◼   ► He is.

00:07:34 ◼   ► Okay.

00:07:35 ◼   ► Singing Dancing Snowman.

00:07:36 ◼   ► Yeah, I like this article though, because it helped show me that there is real engineering

00:07:44 ◼   ► knowledge.

00:07:46 ◼   ► Not knowledge, but proof that this could, that this should work.

00:07:49 ◼   ► kind of something that I wanted to see. So I'm pretty happy about that, at least.

00:07:54 ◼   ► I mean, I guess in conjunction with this, Apple hasn't said how much it weighs. And

00:07:58 ◼   ► I would imagine that the weight of the base makes a big difference in how tippy it is,

00:08:03 ◼   ► it's gonna be heavy, it's gonna be like close to the weight of an iPad, I'm sure I think

00:08:07 ◼   ► so. But I think that's totally fine. Like it's gonna be a nice experience. And in addition

00:08:11 ◼   ► to tipping over, I don't want the thing to like feel wobbly when I go up and poke at

00:08:15 ◼   ► the screen with my finger. I want it to feel like a solid thing, so I'm fine with some

00:08:20 ◼   ► weight if it gives a really nice experience.

00:08:22 ◼   ► Yep, because the cursor, the trackpad, does not mean I also won't touch it.

00:08:28 ◼   ► Exactly. I think it's gonna...

00:08:29 ◼   ► I want to be able to do both.

00:08:32 ◼   ► I went back and watched multiple times those two seconds from the Apple commercial when

00:08:38 ◼   ► the person is using the magic keyword on their lap, and like I watched over and over and

00:08:45 ◼   ► like it doesn't wobble so it looks to be pretty sturdy in terms of like the

00:08:50 ◼   ► person is like when when when they open the the magic keyboard it looks to be

00:08:55 ◼   ► pretty solid so I also think it's gonna be heavy I do wonder much of readers

00:09:01 ◼   ► have asked me like are you gonna be able to fold the magic keyboard on its own

00:09:06 ◼   ► like you can do with the smart keyboard folio or the smart folio I don't think

00:09:11 ◼   ► you can, but we don't know, like we don't know, can you fold it all the way to the back?

00:09:18 ◼   ► I don't think you will be able to, which makes me sad, because it means that my kickstand

00:09:22 ◼   ► method will not apply to the Magic Keyboard for iPad, but also it doesn't, I mean, what

00:09:30 ◼   ► are you gonna do?

00:09:31 ◼   ► No, I don't think that this will do that at all. I think it's kind of like, you have it

00:09:35 ◼   ► on and it's closed, or it's open and in typing mode, like you want, this won't be a wraparound,

00:09:41 ◼   ► dealio. Yeah. Because that hinge is gonna be stiff, right? Like that's gonna be like

00:09:47 ◼   ► a stiff thing. And you've got the little like USB-C column to be deal in there

00:09:53 ◼   ► and so like that's got to like turn all the way around. Yeah I don't see this

00:09:57 ◼   ► being a deal where you can wrap the keyboard all the way behind it but I

00:10:01 ◼   ► think it'd be nice to have it on your desk and if you want to take it off you

00:10:04 ◼   ► just take it off and then it just sort of like stays in your desk closed and

00:10:07 ◼   ► then like you you put it back. Well I think that's why they keep showing that

00:10:10 ◼   ► like in multiple videos Apple have shown like just a shot of somebody just taking it off

00:10:17 ◼   ► - Yeah - Which also would indicate the weight of it

00:10:19 ◼   ► - That it can it can withstand it - Those magnets are strong and it has to

00:10:24 ◼   ► you have to be able to like remove it well if the video is to be believed you can just take that

00:10:30 ◼   ► thing off there which means that has to be heavy enough to fight against the strength of the magnet

00:10:35 ◼   ► which is not easy.

00:10:37 ◼   ► What's the consensus on when you remove an iPad?

00:10:41 ◼   ► So you're an iPad Pro person,

00:10:43 ◼   ► and you use your iPad Pro at a desk

00:10:45 ◼   ► with a smart keyboard or in the future the Magic Keyboard.

00:10:48 ◼   ► What's our consensus on when you remove it,

00:10:51 ◼   ► and you maybe want to go spend some time on the couch

00:10:54 ◼   ► with your iPad, or you just want to, you know,

00:10:56 ◼   ► have a change of scenery and work in tablet mode

00:10:59 ◼   ► somewhere else.

00:11:01 ◼   ► Do you or do you not keep a spare smart folio around the house?

00:11:08 ◼   ► Or do you just use it naked with no case, no cover, nothing?

00:11:14 ◼   ► Currently I will go naked because I either have it in my clear look stand

00:11:21 ◼   ► or I have it in my bridge keyboard or I have it in nothing.

00:11:24 ◼   ► My iPad is never covered, right?

00:11:27 ◼   ► like the back of it is never covered by anything anymore because I don't use the smart folio,

00:11:32 ◼   ► keep smart keyboard folio. So I would use it without and so my expectation will be that I

00:11:37 ◼   ► will either go from in the stand with an external keyboard or I will go smart keyboard to replace

00:11:44 ◼   ► what the bridge would be doing or nothing because I just don't want to be putting a case on and

00:11:51 ◼   ► taking it off all the time and then having this like big thing to deal with. That's my current

00:11:56 ◼   ► of thinking, but I haven't made my mind up yet.

00:12:00 ◼   ► Like I might go SmartFolio.

00:12:02 ◼   ► I'm more inclined to get one of those now because they have colors.

00:12:05 ◼   ► So they're a little bit more visually appealing.

00:12:08 ◼   ► But again, all of this stuff for me is subject to change depending on how

00:12:14 ◼   ► working outside of the home is going to be.

00:12:17 ◼   ► And like, how am I traveling and what am I taking if I'm taking anything to and from

00:12:22 ◼   ► the office every day?

00:12:23 ◼   ► But my expectation is I will be no cover.

00:12:27 ◼   ► Okay, okay.

00:12:29 ◼   ► Yeah, I'm doing the same right now.

00:12:32 ◼   ► So just when I'm tired of typing at my desk,

00:12:35 ◼   ► I just grab the iPad and I leave and I go to the other room and I just use it in touch mode.

00:12:40 ◼   ► But yeah, no case.

00:12:42 ◼   ► So I don't think it's going to change.

00:12:44 ◼   ► I don't really want to keep an extra thing because I tried that for a while.

00:12:47 ◼   ► Like I will leave like a spare Smart Folio in the kitchen or like in the hallway.

00:12:52 ◼   ► It was just an extra thing that was always sitting there.

00:12:56 ◼   ► At that point I realized, you know, I'm just gonna grab the iPad and if I drop it, you know, so be it.

00:13:01 ◼   ► What do you do, Steven?

00:13:02 ◼   ► I do the same as y'all. If it's not in the keyboard case, it's just naked.

00:13:06 ◼   ► For all those reasons, I don't want an extra thing flopping around.

00:13:09 ◼   ► Yeah, very well. Okay. Thank you.

00:13:11 ◼   ► I do really like the new blue case, though. The surf blue case.

00:13:15 ◼   ► It's beautiful. It's really nice. It's a great color.

00:13:18 ◼   ► But there's I don't really see a need for it. Like it would just be an addition. I wish that they would make the smart

00:13:24 ◼   ► Keyboard folio and colors. Why not - can I tell y'all story about product balance? Yep, we're talking about this

00:13:30 ◼   ► Remember the the white and black plastic MacBooks those things. Mm-hmm

00:13:34 ◼   ► So those were really well balanced, you know

00:13:36 ◼   ► Like you open the lid with one finger and the base of the computer stays on the desk

00:13:40 ◼   ► Well that worked until you were like working on them

00:13:43 ◼   ► Like if you had to replace a part in them

00:13:44 ◼   ► and you took the top case off and it would start like the front feet would start to want

00:13:48 ◼   ► to lift off and then if you took any other component, I think the hard drive out the

00:13:52 ◼   ► RAM out anything, it would tip back on its hinge. Like Apple had it weighted just right

00:13:57 ◼   ► with a base of the computer weighed just enough to keep it on the ground. They're really good

00:14:02 ◼   ► at that stuff. So I would expect that this thing will behave the way we want it to. That's

00:14:06 ◼   ► my hope.

00:14:08 ◼   ► It seems like it's it would have to have been designed that way. Otherwise, you shouldn't

00:14:13 ◼   ► have done it but we'll see, right? We don't know. We don't know. We'll find out in May

00:14:18 ◼   ► or whenever they finally start shipping to everybody. As long as it is as balanced as

00:14:23 ◼   ► the smart keyboard folio then I'm fine, right? Like that is not a completely balanced product,

00:14:30 ◼   ► right? You can push it over, you can tip it over, but it takes work to do that and as

00:14:34 ◼   ► long as they've at least matched that then I'll be happy. Alright we've got a bunch more

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00:16:10 ◼   ► the support of this show and Relay FM. Mac Madness. It's turned into absolute

00:16:16 ◼   ► madness. It is descent. Everyone's losing their minds. It's wild. What is going on

00:16:23 ◼   ► with your what turn what should have been fun project but seems to have taken

00:16:28 ◼   ► some dark turns. It's taken over my life is what it's done.

00:16:31 ◼   ► We're going to this on Wednesday the 25th.

00:16:34 ◼   ► Yesterday the 24th, I closed round two of voting.

00:16:38 ◼   ► So there's a link in the show notes.

00:16:39 ◼   ► You can see what moved forward.

00:16:43 ◼   ► I will say that some people,

00:16:45 ◼   ► including the aforementioned Dr. Drang,

00:16:47 ◼   ► very unhappy about some of the votes,

00:16:49 ◼   ► but the votes are what the votes are.

00:16:52 ◼   ► I have no control.

00:16:53 ◼   ► People are voting.

00:16:54 ◼   ► Look, the heart wants what the heart wants,

00:16:56 ◼   ► and the heart won at a G4 Cube over the 13 inch MacBook Air.

00:17:00 ◼   ► I can't say why.

00:17:02 ◼   ► That one, by the way, the most surprising to me,

00:17:04 ◼   ► that the good MacBook Air is out to the Cube.

00:17:08 ◼   ► I did not see that coming.

00:17:10 ◼   ► I have a really good YouTube comment

00:17:12 ◼   ► I wanna share with y'all.

00:17:13 ◼   ► So this person wrote, "Bruh," B-R-U-H, so there's that.

00:17:17 ◼   ► - Bruh. - "Bruh, the G3 and G4 iMacs

00:17:20 ◼   ► "were a piece of my childhood with my elementary school

00:17:23 ◼   ► "chock full of them in the computer lab and classrooms.

00:17:26 ◼   ► "Next year, you should add the eMac

00:17:28 ◼   ► "so my childhood can get ruined again."

00:17:30 ◼   ► It is wild to me that the iMac G3 got knocked out to the MacBook Pro.

00:17:37 ◼   ► That one was my biggest surprise of everything.

00:17:41 ◼   ► It's weird that people seem to be getting actually mad about this, which is interesting.

00:17:48 ◼   ► It's what people were voting for.

00:17:52 ◼   ► I don't know if I understand the anger that seems to be getting.

00:17:57 ◼   ► All I'm saying is, I'm pleased you're doing this and not me, because I don't think I would

00:18:00 ◼   ► be able to handle it. That's fine. I don't think anyone's mad at me, they're mad at each

00:18:03 ◼   ► other. So that's how democracy works. You vote your way and the other person votes the

00:18:08 ◼   ► other way and you're mad at them for four years. That's how it goes. Just like it went

00:18:12 ◼   ► in your country, Steven. I like that you're sharing the numbers though, because the thing

00:18:18 ◼   ► is, is like most of these contentious ones split down the middle. Very close. It's always

00:18:25 ◼   ► like 50 to 40 something, which is just it's just interesting. There aren't a lot of like

00:18:31 ◼   ► real big landslides.

00:18:33 ◼   ► Yeah, there was only really one. I think there was one that stood out. I'm just giving me

00:18:40 ◼   ► my own blog post now. Yeah, the the the 2006 to 2012 Mac Pro at 72% against the Mac two

00:18:47 ◼   ► effects. That's the biggest gap, I think so far in the whole thing. Yeah, that's a big

00:18:52 ◼   ► one.

00:18:53 ◼   ► Yeah, so round three is, is open now. And I will tell you that the voting so far in

00:19:02 ◼   ► round three are bigger gaps on average than I've seen in previous rounds. So people are,

00:19:09 ◼   ► I guess, getting more into into what they want. Or maybe the voting is just sort of

00:19:15 ◼   ► consolidating around sort of machines. The quarterfinals I think are going to bring some

00:19:19 ◼   ► heartbreaks because there's a lot of like really beloved computers in this.

00:19:25 ◼   ► Honestly I would love to see MacPro 2019 versus MacPro 2006/2012 in the final.

00:19:33 ◼   ► Like they are on opposite sides of the bracket and I just think that would be hilarious if it just ends up

00:19:39 ◼   ► that it's just two MacPros going out against each other. Yeah I don't really

00:19:42 ◼   ► know how it's gonna end. I have some guesses but again I'm not I'm not voting

00:19:47 ◼   ► and I'm not sharing any of my guesses. So I will say at the end what I thought I am glad though

00:19:52 ◼   ► that now everything's still in I have one of so I have some fun plans for the the finale for the

00:19:58 ◼   ► final video. So Oh, you have all of them all that are left in now I think that's good. That's good.

00:20:04 ◼   ► Pro MacBook Pro G five clamshell cube. Yep, I have all these so. So we'll see. So go vote. This round

00:20:11 ◼   ► will close on Friday afternoon. And I will begin to the same thing. My stream the winners have a

00:20:16 ◼   ► video up and then we'll be into the the final couple rounds. That's wild. It's

00:20:22 ◼   ► gonna be good. Do you think you know what's gonna win? I... You don't have to say what

00:20:25 ◼   ► it is but do you think you know what's gonna win? Out of what's left now I have I

00:20:29 ◼   ► have a couple that I think could go all the way. I'm down to two. I guess it's not

00:20:34 ◼   ► important if I say I think it's either gonna be the black MacBook or the Mac

00:20:39 ◼   ► 128k. That's what I think is gonna be one of those two. They're on the same side of the

00:20:43 ◼   ► bracket right there but I know it's but no they are facing off against each

00:20:47 ◼   ► other yeah well fun that's I think whatever wins that wins it all I think

00:20:52 ◼   ► the new Mac Pro 2019 is gonna win do you yeah oh boy see this is why I really

00:21:00 ◼   ► want to see Mac Pro versus Mac Pro there were a lot of feelings involved with

00:21:09 ◼   ► waiting for the Mac Pro comeback and I think a lot of people are channeling

00:21:12 ◼   ► that, you know, sense of relief into voting for this Mac Pro.

00:21:17 ◼   ► The reason I think it won't be that one is because lots of people that would want it

00:21:22 ◼   ► can't buy it because it's too expensive.

00:21:25 ◼   ► And I think that will be the thing that will stop it from taking the crown.

00:21:28 ◼   ► I mean, the idea of being a favorite is super weird, right?

00:21:32 ◼   ► Like, it's not best.

00:21:33 ◼   ► It's not the one that you had growing up, right?

00:21:35 ◼   ► It is just his favorite.

00:21:37 ◼   ► It's very, it's very interesting to see how people interpret that.

00:21:42 ◼   ► I think it's gonna be Mac Pro 2019 versus Clamshell iBook G3,

00:21:46 ◼   ► and on the other side, it's gonna be G4 Cube

00:21:48 ◼   ► versus Black MacBook, and my ideal final would be

00:21:52 ◼   ► Mac Pro 2019 versus the Black MacBook.

00:21:54 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:21:56 ◼   ► - Mm-hmm.

00:21:57 ◼   ► - Yeah, well, we'll find out soon enough.

00:21:59 ◼   ► So, go vote, all that stuff's in the show notes.

00:22:01 ◼   ► I appreciate everyone voting.

00:22:03 ◼   ► The voting's been really popular,

00:22:05 ◼   ► so I'm glad people are enjoying it.

00:22:07 ◼   ► It's fun to do something fun.

00:22:09 ◼   ► - Let me see, let me take a look here.

00:22:10 ◼   ► What do I think could be the worst winner?

00:22:13 ◼   ► Probably the Power Mac G5.

00:22:14 ◼   ► - What's the Power Mac G5?

00:22:16 ◼   ► I don't even know.

00:22:17 ◼   ► - You'll know it when you see it.

00:22:18 ◼   ► It's the tower computer that had the

00:22:21 ◼   ► acrylic plastic from the G3.

00:22:23 ◼   ► - No, the Power Mac G5.

00:22:24 ◼   ► - No, that's the first one that looked like a Mac Pro.

00:22:27 ◼   ► Sorry, that was the Power Mac G3.

00:22:29 ◼   ► I do know these things, I just got it slightly confused.

00:22:32 ◼   ► - It looked like the whole tower.

00:22:33 ◼   ► It just had a Power PC processor in it.

00:22:35 ◼   ► - This is like a fake cheese grater, right?

00:22:38 ◼   ► - Yes. - Yeah, sure.

00:22:40 ◼   ► Yeah, why is this so far ahead?

00:22:42 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:22:42 ◼   ► Well, it had, Syracuse said this,

00:22:45 ◼   ► the Power Mac G5 actually had the easiest run so far,

00:22:49 ◼   ► 'cause they had like the original Mac Mini.

00:22:51 ◼   ► I thought the 20th anniversary Mac would go further,

00:22:53 ◼   ► but it died in the first round,

00:22:55 ◼   ► and it had the Mac portable.

00:22:56 ◼   ► And again, the seating was random,

00:22:58 ◼   ► but I think the Power Mac G5 had the easiest path

00:23:00 ◼   ► to where it is now out of the ones that are left.

00:23:03 ◼   ► Can I ask you a question?

00:23:05 ◼   ► Are you regretting the random seating?

00:23:08 ◼   ► No, no.

00:23:10 ◼   ► I said to you, I thought it was a bad idea,

00:23:12 ◼   ► and I think that anger has played out.

00:23:15 ◼   ► I mean, I'm shocked the 13 inch air loss to the Cube,

00:23:19 ◼   ► shocked, like I double checked that like four times,

00:23:23 ◼   ► like no way that's how that went.

00:23:24 ◼   ► Well, the random seating wouldn't have helped that.

00:23:27 ◼   ► Well, it could have if I could have put the air against,

00:23:30 ◼   ► you know, I mean, the way that you would seat it manually

00:23:33 ◼   ► is you would have what you would think your four windows

00:23:35 ◼   ► are one in each quadrant.

00:23:36 ◼   ► Yeah, but did you, would you have, but you never would have assumed that the cube would

00:23:41 ◼   ► beat the air.

00:23:42 ◼   ► No, I wouldn't.

00:23:44 ◼   ► So you probably want to make that match up.

00:23:46 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:23:47 ◼   ► So I don't know.

00:23:48 ◼   ► I mean, the random seeding makes it just more feisty.

00:23:50 ◼   ► And I think that's what's fun about it.

00:23:51 ◼   ► So I mean, look how busy the chat room is right now.

00:23:54 ◼   ► Everybody's yelling about the G5.

00:23:56 ◼   ► Someone in the chat room, Max Stories literally has an article from 2018 about the Pirate

00:24:02 ◼   ► Mac G5 Federico.

00:24:03 ◼   ► Yeah, I wrote it.

00:24:04 ◼   ► You probably wrote it.

00:24:05 ◼   ► I did write it.

00:24:06 ◼   ► Put that in the show notes.

00:24:10 ◼   ► I may have read it, or and I may have forgotten about it because it's so, you know, forgettable.

00:24:17 ◼   ► This is like the fast bender of computers.

00:24:20 ◼   ► Exactly.

00:24:21 ◼   ► There is another Mac like this, though.

00:24:25 ◼   ► There was the iMac, the last iMac before the Intel transition, right?

00:24:29 ◼   ► Yeah, the iMac G5.

00:24:30 ◼   ► It looked just like the same as the Intel iMac.

00:24:33 ◼   ► That's right.

00:24:34 ◼   ► or like the iPad 4... 3?

00:24:38 ◼   ► 3. Which one? 3.

00:24:40 ◼   ► 3. It was gone in like 6 months.

00:24:42 ◼   ► Yeah, because they just replaced it with a lightning port and then that was it.

00:24:46 ◼   ► And they made it a lot faster.

00:24:48 ◼   ► Maybe the 2020 iPad will be another one of these machines.

00:24:52 ◼   ► Where it gets replaced by something. We'll find out later on in the episode, maybe.

00:24:56 ◼   ► We'll talk about that later. So anyways, that's Mac Madness. Go forth and vote, please.

00:25:00 ◼   ► Madness it is. It is madness.

00:25:02 ◼   ► So moving into some tiny topics, there's a little bit more coming out from the iOS 14

00:25:08 ◼   ► code that nine to five and maybe others had their hands on.

00:25:11 ◼   ► This is written by Zach Hall, outlining features coming in the find my app, which of course

00:25:16 ◼   ► used to be find my friends and find my iPhone and it merged because all of our friends are

00:25:20 ◼   ► our phones, they're not actually people anymore.

00:25:23 ◼   ► And it seems like find my is going to get a couple of features.

00:25:26 ◼   ► So one is the ability to receive alerts and someone arrives at a location.

00:25:31 ◼   ► So right now if Myke's at the grocery and I want to know when he leaves the grocery,

00:25:36 ◼   ► I can set that up and find my there's also an option in there when they don't arrive

00:25:42 ◼   ► at a location on time.

00:25:43 ◼   ► So it's like, okay, they're supposed to be there between eight and 830.

00:25:46 ◼   ► And they haven't gotten there.

00:25:48 ◼   ► Find my would let you know, which is cool.

00:25:50 ◼   ► That would be added that would be useful.

00:25:52 ◼   ► I think for parents like kids going to school, maybe the kids driving themselves for the

00:25:57 ◼   ► first time you want to make sure they get there in one piece.

00:25:59 ◼   ► I like this edition.

00:26:00 ◼   ► This is a clever and logical continuation of that notification stuff.

00:26:06 ◼   ► There's also an AR mode with Find My, which would let you locate visually your things.

00:26:17 ◼   ► We've spoken about this, right?

00:26:19 ◼   ► Like the possibility of an AR mode for AirTags, right?

00:26:23 ◼   ► That you would use that.

00:26:24 ◼   ► The 9to5Mac article was this feature very strangely.

00:26:30 ◼   ► So I'll read what it says.

00:26:31 ◼   ► "Apple's Find My App in iOS 14 will also work

00:26:34 ◼   ► of augmented reality headsets.

00:26:36 ◼   ► ARKit, Apple's augmented reality development framework,

00:26:40 ◼   ► includes headset mode in the upcoming software update.

00:26:43 ◼   ► Users will be able to locate visually using augmented reality

00:26:46 ◼   ► for precise directions from close locations,

00:26:49 ◼   ► including upcoming Apple AirTag device trackers."

00:26:53 ◼   ► I would be really surprised if...

00:26:55 ◼   ► So one, I mean, this is making some huge presumptions

00:26:58 ◼   ► about what's coming for iOS 14.

00:27:03 ◼   ► Like, cannot imagine that Apple will have its own headset available at the end of this

00:27:07 ◼   ► year.

00:27:08 ◼   ► I mean, yes, headset mode might be considered, right?

00:27:11 ◼   ► Because that's the thing that we've known about for a bit.

00:27:13 ◼   ► Like third party, quote unquote, third party headsets.

00:27:16 ◼   ► But surely this feature would be added to the iPhone.

00:27:19 ◼   ► There's no reason why the iPhone wouldn't get an AR mode for Find My if you're able

00:27:25 ◼   ► to find other devices.

00:27:26 ◼   ► It's just an interesting way of reading it.

00:27:28 ◼   ► Maybe they only have got confirmation on certain parts, I'm not sure, but it just seemed like

00:27:32 ◼   ► a strange feature to just be locked down in that way or referenced in that way.

00:27:38 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:27:39 ◼   ► Yeah, who knows?

00:27:40 ◼   ► I mean, it feels like there's a lot of things to drop with AR this year, especially with

00:27:45 ◼   ► the LiDAR sensor on the iPad.

00:27:46 ◼   ► It's like, "Okay, that's coming to the phone."

00:27:49 ◼   ► What else could they do with it?

00:27:50 ◼   ► I could see this being really cool.

00:27:52 ◼   ► Oh, by the way, I think that might be the first confirmed 2020 annual prediction, by

00:27:58 ◼   ► the way.

00:27:59 ◼   ► You see a boy over here?

00:28:01 ◼   ► The iPad Pro line is updated before the iPhone of a hardware feature that's not on any current

00:28:06 ◼   ► iPhone.

00:28:07 ◼   ► Let me scroll down to the document.

00:28:09 ◼   ► I already marked it as green.

00:28:10 ◼   ► Oh, yes you did.

00:28:12 ◼   ► Yeah, because I'm correct.

00:28:14 ◼   ► Yeah, there's a lot of other stuff in here.

00:28:16 ◼   ► All right, now I'm just making predictions.

00:28:17 ◼   ► There is, but none of it has happened yet.

00:28:20 ◼   ► I read through this like two days ago.

00:28:21 ◼   ► Yeah, there's still time.

00:28:23 ◼   ► Honestly, pretty much all of the other predictions, bar like one or two,

00:28:27 ◼   ► wouldn't happen until June onwards.

00:28:29 ◼   ► But this one has.

00:28:32 ◼   ► Yeah. Good job there. You got a point.

00:28:34 ◼   ► Thank you.

00:28:35 ◼   ► Well, if the iPhone gets the lighter sensor.

00:28:38 ◼   ► No, but the point was it doesn't need to.

00:28:42 ◼   ► No, it does need it.

00:28:44 ◼   ► It's before the iPhone that does before the iPhone.

00:28:47 ◼   ► What if the iPhone gets in 2022?

00:28:49 ◼   ► I never said it had to be this year.

00:28:51 ◼   ► Yeah, but yeah, I see.

00:28:53 ◼   ► By the end of this year, we can't say that's wrong.

00:28:55 ◼   ► The iPhone is updated before the iPhone.

00:28:57 ◼   ► That because he said that's not on any current iPhone.

00:29:03 ◼   ► That's how he saved the point.

00:29:05 ◼   ► We judge it by the way it's written.

00:29:08 ◼   ► The way it's written does not say that it has to come to the iPhone.

00:29:11 ◼   ► We've been very generous with you.

00:29:13 ◼   ► Come on, generous.

00:29:15 ◼   ► Yes.

00:29:15 ◼   ► Come on.

00:29:16 ◼   ► Yes, we were.

00:29:18 ◼   ► Yes.

00:29:18 ◼   ► Someone just mad he doesn't have a Twitter account.

00:29:20 ◼   ► Well, he's gonna get two of them.

00:29:22 ◼   ► I'm gonna get both.

00:29:23 ◼   ► Yeah, sure.

00:29:24 ◼   ► Now that would be the real flex to have both.

00:29:26 ◼   ► I mean, another flex is to have one and never use it.

00:29:29 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:29:29 ◼   ► Uh-huh.

00:29:30 ◼   ► Federico.

00:29:31 ◼   ► All right, Disney+ has arrived in the continent of Europe,

00:29:38 ◼   ► and I was seeing what the two of y'all thought about this.

00:29:40 ◼   ► Well, Europe and Britain.

00:29:42 ◼   ► How's that going?

00:29:43 ◼   ► You literally said the continent of Europe.

00:29:45 ◼   ► Wow.

00:29:46 ◼   ► You said the continent.

00:29:48 ◼   ► We haven't left the continent.

00:29:50 ◼   ► Geographically, they have not.

00:29:53 ◼   ► Yeah, we have left the European Union,

00:29:55 ◼   ► of which the European Union includes countries that are not in the continent of Europe,

00:30:01 ◼   ► these are two very separate and distinct things.

00:30:04 ◼   ► Jeez.

00:30:06 ◼   ► So how's Disney+?

00:30:08 ◼   ► So, besides geography, so we signed up for, well I accidentally I think signed up for

00:30:17 ◼   ► an annual account but whatever. No that was a good thing if you bought it before the launch

00:30:22 ◼   ► day you got money off. Yeah that was a discount, it was too late and I was like on the preview

00:30:28 ◼   ► page I was like yeah I mean we're gonna watch a bunch of stuff anyway so might as well go

00:30:33 ◼   ► for it. We watched one movie so far so we watched the live action remake of Lady and

00:30:43 ◼   ► the tramp. That's original for the service right? That was actually a movie that came out.

00:30:50 ◼   ► Yes, Disney now has a bunch of these live-action remakes. There's one for

00:30:55 ◼   ► Aladdin, there's Dumbo, there's The Lion King. The Lion King though is, you can go check it out,

00:31:03 ◼   ► there's a preview page on Disney Plus, but it tells you due to current licensing rights issues,

00:31:11 ◼   ► This will be available starting April 21st. So it actually tells you like due to

00:31:17 ◼   ► Expiring rights this will be available on this day. So that I thought that was very nice

00:31:21 ◼   ► So I have the app on my iPad on my phone on the Apple TV. We watched on the Apple TV

00:31:26 ◼   ► I thought it was very nicely done

00:31:28 ◼   ► The signing flow from the Apple TV was super nice

00:31:33 ◼   ► I just needed to open the app on my iPhone on the same Wi-Fi network and it signed me it logged me right in

00:31:40 ◼   ► So that was cool. Yeah, there's been a bunch of different types of login flows for smart TV stuff

00:31:47 ◼   ► This is the smartest and this is the easiest. This is the easiest because usually you go like to to a webpage

00:31:53 ◼   ► like

00:31:55 ◼   ► You know and you type in maybe sometimes like a code

00:31:58 ◼   ► Yeah, it signs it or maybe you just log in with your account

00:32:01 ◼   ► But this is by far the easiest that I've seen the app is I mean, it's functional. It's fine

00:32:08 ◼   ► just like any other app for tvOS. It suffers from the same issues that we've mentioned time and time again.

00:32:16 ◼   ► You click the menu button on the Siri remote, you don't know what's gonna happen. And in this case, it doesn't navigate

00:32:23 ◼   ► back in the navigation

00:32:26 ◼   ► structure of the app, but it actually takes you... it's very confusing.

00:32:30 ◼   ► It's one of those apps that has like a custom behavior for the menu button, and it took me like

00:32:36 ◼   ► 20 seconds to understand what was going on. But besides that, it's well designed, it supports Dolby Atmos,

00:32:44 ◼   ► it lets you choose from multiple languages, just like Netflix, so we...

00:32:50 ◼   ► It was kind of late when we started watching the movie at 1am and we figured, you know, usually we watch movies in English,

00:32:56 ◼   ► but we figured, you know, we just want to relax, so we're just gonna watch this one in Italian.

00:33:00 ◼   ► Really nice job with a voiceover, by the way. Really nicely done.

00:33:05 ◼   ► Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of stuff, a bunch of things that will become available at some

00:33:11 ◼   ► point, like The Lion King.

00:33:13 ◼   ► I love that you can browse by property, so like Pixar and Marvel and, you know, there's

00:33:19 ◼   ► Star Wars hub.

00:33:21 ◼   ► That's very nicely done.

00:33:24 ◼   ► Now that I have an annual subscription, I might as well at some point actually watch

00:33:29 ◼   ► Star Wars and get, you know, become a man of culture in that sense.

00:33:35 ◼   ► I don't know. I want to rewatch the Toy Story movies because it's been a I've never watched three and four

00:33:41 ◼   ► Sadly, okay, and I watched one and two many many many years ago

00:33:46 ◼   ► So might as well do like a Toy Story rewatch. The city doesn't really like Toy Story. So I probably have to do it by myself

00:33:53 ◼   ► Otherwise, we're gonna watch all the live-action remakes. We're gonna I

00:33:58 ◼   ► have been told that I will have to

00:34:04 ◼   ► fix some

00:34:06 ◼   ► unforgivable holes in my Disney movie catalog

00:34:11 ◼   ► culture in terms of like I've never watched things like Cinderella or

00:34:17 ◼   ► the Aristocats or

00:34:20 ◼   ► you know like growing up I

00:34:22 ◼   ► I don't know why but my mom didn't want to buy me those like movies on VHS

00:34:27 ◼   ► Also, they weren't easy to get movie kids because Disney had this thing called The Vault where they would release these movies for chunks of

00:34:34 ◼   ► time. Exactly, but my girlfriend makes fun of me for that because she's

00:34:39 ◼   ► convinced that everybody has watched those movies and I did not. So, okay, Siri.

00:34:44 ◼   ► So, Siri on my watch just transcribed everything I said for some reason. So, yeah,

00:34:49 ◼   ► I will watch all the cartoons and all the live-action remakes and then we'll

00:34:53 ◼   ► see about Star Wars and the TV shows. I really, again, probably something that I

00:34:59 ◼   ► will have to do myself. There's a like inside Disney documentary of like an

00:35:04 ◼   ► hour that I want to watch. I've heard very good things about the Imagineering

00:35:08 ◼   ► series which is about the Disney parks which I'm really excited to watch. It's

00:35:12 ◼   ► fantastic. Yeah, so a thumbs up so far. I mean it's a... and they're doing so much

00:35:19 ◼   ► advertising on Italian TV. And I mentioned this to Myke and Steven a few

00:35:25 ◼   ► days ago. They actually did something really clever here in Italy. So the first

00:35:28 ◼   ► episode of The Mandalorian aired on public TV in Italy, on channel 6 here in Italy.

00:35:36 ◼   ► So you can watch that first episode for free on TV, but then if you want to get the rest, of course,

00:35:43 ◼   ► you sign up for Disney+ and they are airing commercials for Disney+ like every few minutes.

00:35:50 ◼   ► Especially these past couple of weeks it's been a massive, like everywhere there's a mention of

00:35:55 ◼   ► of Disney+ launching in Italy. So yeah, I mean, we signed up and it's fine. We like

00:36:00 ◼   ► it.

00:36:01 ◼   ► Yeah, there's so much content. Like, we're going to do a Toy Story marathon as our first

00:36:06 ◼   ► thing, because Idina has not seen any of them, so I'm excited about that. I just haven't

00:36:10 ◼   ► seen the most recent one. I think the app is nicely designed and it's nicely organized,

00:36:15 ◼   ► as Federico said. You know, it's doing what every Apple TV app from a large media provider

00:36:21 ◼   ► is doing. They're using their own design. They don't care about what Apple wants them

00:36:24 ◼   ► to do and I think overall the design is good right? The category stuff is good but not

00:36:32 ◼   ► perfect like where are the Simpsons? You know which is you know there are 600 episodes of

00:36:39 ◼   ► the Simpsons on this service but it's not on the front page which is a surprise to me

00:36:44 ◼   ► I would have expected it to get a little bit more prominence-y but you know you have to

00:36:50 ◼   ► go to the TV shows menu and you can find it there. I also like that all of the

00:36:55 ◼   ► like what would be DVD extras are just all available so you can watch the like

00:36:59 ◼   ► the deleted scenes and behind the scenes stuff of movies like they have all of

00:37:03 ◼   ► those I just think that's just like a nice little touch but just looking

00:37:08 ◼   ► around really it's wild like to see all of that content there there is so much

00:37:16 ◼   ► stuff, so much good stuff. So I'm excited to spend more time with Disney+. It's very

00:37:22 ◼   ► well priced, right? Like five pounds a month or whatever. But I also did the sign up for

00:37:27 ◼   ► a year, get 10 pounds off thing. Yeah, it's really, I'm very pleased that we finally have

00:37:32 ◼   ► it in Europe. But I think it's ridiculous that we have to do week, wait week by week

00:37:37 ◼   ► for The Mandalorian. I think that's madness. Like the entire show was already aired in

00:37:42 ◼   ► America. We get the first two episodes and then have to wait weekly. I think

00:37:46 ◼   ► that's just mad, like really just like bananas.

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00:40:01 ◼   ► All right, so new iPad Pro reviews are out.

00:40:05 ◼   ► Well, new, because technically it is new, but

00:40:09 ◼   ► we're gonna talk about it. Really, not much is new in this iPad Pro.

00:40:12 ◼   ► So I watched the

00:40:15 ◼   ► MKBHD video and I read the reviews from

00:40:18 ◼   ► Jason at Six Colors and John at Daring Fireball.

00:40:22 ◼   ► So basically the consensus is if you are an existing 2018 iPad Pro user

00:40:27 ◼   ► you don't really need to upgrade

00:40:30 ◼   ► unless you are an ARKit developer because in that case you probably want to

00:40:37 ◼   ► start testing your apps against the new LiDAR sensor and ARKit 3.5

00:40:42 ◼   ► which Apple also released and the new framework takes advantage of the LiDAR sensor in the new iPad Pro

00:40:48 ◼   ► But otherwise that is the only new feature

00:40:51 ◼   ► basically and

00:40:53 ◼   ► There's also a camera change in the sense that you can now take ultra-wide photos

00:40:58 ◼   ► but the benchmarks are still the same and

00:41:02 ◼   ► It's still got the same design and in your day-to-day

00:41:06 ◼   ► experience right now

00:41:08 ◼   ► Without a Magic Keyboard without you know any ARK to 3.5 apps

00:41:13 ◼   ► The 2020 iPad Pro is still the same as the 2018 iPad Pro

00:41:19 ◼   ► There are some differences, but again, you probably will not notice them. All 2020 iPad Pros have 6GB of RAM

00:41:26 ◼   ► instead in 2018 only the 1TB model had 6GB of RAM

00:41:31 ◼   ► But I bet that most users will not, you know, if ever run into those limitations memory-wise

00:41:37 ◼   ► You can take, as I mentioned, you can take ultra wide pictures. There's no portrait mode for the rear camera, surprisingly

00:41:46 ◼   ► Gruber argues in his review that Apple wanted to focus their resources on getting the LiDAR stuff

00:41:52 ◼   ► going right now for ARKit 3.5. Yeah, I have another theory about this, which is that

00:41:58 ◼   ► they will be making massive improvements to portrait mode with the addition of LiDAR

00:42:05 ◼   ► in the next iPhone and they want to keep that for then. Probably. And not make these big jumps on the

00:42:12 ◼   ► iPad Pro before they make them on the iPhone. Could be one of the features

00:42:17 ◼   ► that they mentioned for the iPhone 12. Yeah, I can see that. We have benchmarks.

00:42:22 ◼   ► There's a, again, pretty comparable to the 2018 iPad Pro that was running the A12X,

00:42:31 ◼   ► this is running the A12Z. What else? The new studio quality microphones. Again,

00:42:38 ◼   ► Gruber as a test. There's two audio clips on there in Fireball that you can listen to.

00:42:44 ◼   ► And sure, there's a, I would say, minor improvement in terms of quality. I wouldn't say it's a

00:42:50 ◼   ► studio quality microphone. I, you know, I wouldn't suggest recording a podcast on that.

00:42:56 ◼   ► Any microphone is a studio quality microphone if you take it into a studio.

00:43:00 ◼   ► Sure, sure.

00:43:01 ◼   ► That's how that works.

00:43:02 ◼   ► Is it though?

00:43:03 ◼   ► That's what it means. That's what it means.

00:43:07 ◼   ► Any microphone is a studio quality microphone if marketing says so.

00:43:13 ◼   ► There are studios of all shapes and sizes and qualities, you know?

00:43:17 ◼   ► Sure.

00:43:18 ◼   ► I mean, what else?

00:43:20 ◼   ► We have new smart folios, new smart keyboard folios.

00:43:25 ◼   ► The Magic Keyboard of course will be backward compatible with the 2018 iPad Pro, because

00:43:30 ◼   ► the camera cutout in the back is bigger, but it's still gonna fit the older and smaller

00:43:35 ◼   ► camera bump of existing iPads.

00:43:38 ◼   ► Every single iPad Pro review spends a significant portion of time talking about the fact that

00:43:44 ◼   ► they don't have the thing that everybody wants to test, which is the keyboard.

00:43:47 ◼   ► They don't have a magic keyboard, but yeah, that's pretty much it.

00:43:51 ◼   ► So why release this iPad now if its main accessory isn't available yet?

00:43:56 ◼   ► Well...

00:43:57 ◼   ► Because you need it before the main accessory is available.

00:44:00 ◼   ► Because you need it because it was ready.

00:44:01 ◼   ► If you have the 2018 you should not update to this even though one of us did.

00:44:05 ◼   ► But I think if you came from like, you know, a first and iPad Pro, you're going to wait

00:44:10 ◼   ► until the keyboards out like it seems strange to me that they're they're so, so far apart.

00:44:17 ◼   ► Probably I mean, there are a bunch of conspiracy theories, you know, if you want to make them.

00:44:22 ◼   ► I think that it is curious that they all got six gigabytes of RAM now.

00:44:27 ◼   ► I think that is a curious thing.

00:44:28 ◼   ► Like I wonder if there's a reason for that.

00:44:30 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:44:31 ◼   ► I have a...

00:44:33 ◼   ► But...

00:44:34 ◼   ► Go on, what is your theory?

00:44:36 ◼   ► It's really Jason's conspiracy theory, I think.

00:44:38 ◼   ► No, this was my theory, which Jason ignored on upgrade and then made himself to the two

00:44:43 ◼   ► of us and then said, "Oh, wait, actually, Myke said that," which is that there could

00:44:48 ◼   ► be some reason for it, but they're probably going to do a second one later on in the year.

00:44:52 ◼   ► Oh, that's not where I was going.

00:44:53 ◼   ► Okay, well, what were you saying then?

00:44:55 ◼   ► So there is a school of thought.

00:44:57 ◼   ► I don't think I buy into it, but just stick with me.

00:45:01 ◼   ► You got 6x RAM, you got a keyboard, you got a trackpad, you have R Max coming.

00:45:08 ◼   ► What if this sort of setup is the development kit?

00:45:13 ◼   ► Yeah, that is Jason's theory and I am on board with it.

00:45:15 ◼   ► I think that is going to be the case.

00:45:17 ◼   ► Federico, you probably don't remember this, but there is an article on Max Stories about

00:45:21 ◼   ► the Intel development kit that I wrote.

00:45:23 ◼   ► And I do remember that.

00:45:24 ◼   ► That was interesting.

00:45:26 ◼   ► looked like a G5 and a Mac Pro.

00:45:30 ◼   ► But that was a fascinating story. I can see that. I can see like, sure, it makes sense.

00:45:35 ◼   ► Now you have a trackpad and if you want to test your apps you can have this as sort of

00:45:39 ◼   ► like a developer kit and you can install this special version of Mac OS on an iPad. It's

00:45:45 ◼   ► going to look super weird. I don't really know if they're going to do it because like,

00:45:49 ◼   ► again, running Mac OS on iPad OS even though it's a developer thing, I don't know. Maybe

00:45:55 ◼   ► sends the wrong message. Like, I can see a bunch of people saying, "Oh, this is actually

00:45:59 ◼   ► so much better than iPadOS. Why don't you actually make it the official thing? MacOS

00:46:04 ◼   ► on iPad, it can totally work." So I don't know if they want to create a precedent for

00:46:09 ◼   ► it, you know? Also, I'm sticking with my 2018 iPad Pro. I've made my decision here after

00:46:16 ◼   ► reading these reviews. I am very glad that two years ago, despite some mild criticism

00:46:26 ◼   ► that I got from some people, I purchased the really expensive 1TB iPad Pro that turned

00:46:35 ◼   ► out to be the only one with two extra gigs of RAM, unlike the other models which were

00:46:41 ◼   ► stuck on 4GB and I have shown, like there was a thread on Twitter from two years ago

00:46:47 ◼   ► where I showed how some of my shortcuts were actually taking advantage of that extra memory.

00:46:54 ◼   ► On other iPads, those shortcuts would have just crashed the shortcuts app. This still

00:46:59 ◼   ► happens today, but for other issues and bugs with shortcuts, not because of RAM, unfortunately.

00:47:05 ◼   ► I still cannot use MusicBot in shortcuts in 13.4.

00:47:10 ◼   ► It's been crashing the shortcuts editor for over a month now.

00:47:13 ◼   ► It's good to have worked so long on something for it to stop working.

00:47:18 ◼   ► To never use it again.

00:47:19 ◼   ► Yes, it's a great feeling.

00:47:22 ◼   ► I'm sticking with the 2018 because I argued at the time I want to future-proof my iPad

00:47:29 ◼   ► Pro and this is exactly what I meant by future-proofing.

00:47:33 ◼   ► Now I have an iPad that has pretty much the same exact specs as the new one.

00:47:40 ◼   ► I will not get that extra GPU core, I guess, of the 2020 spec bump.

00:47:46 ◼   ► I will not get the studio quality microphones, which is too bad because it means now I will

00:47:51 ◼   ► have to quit podcasting, but that's a consequence I will have to accept.

00:47:56 ◼   ► And I will not get the lighter sensor, so unfortunately I will also not be able to go

00:48:01 ◼   ► grocery shopping and holding my iPad up to a shelf to see where the cereal are. That's

00:48:06 ◼   ► also unfortunate and there will not be the U1 chip inside but as we all know I will have

00:48:13 ◼   ► to suffer the consequences of so many features that depend on the U1 chip that I will not

00:48:19 ◼   ► be able to take advantage of. And so that section of my review this summer unfortunately

00:48:25 ◼   ► it'll have to be cut. All those features I will not be able to mention. But seriously

00:48:30 ◼   ► I think I'm gonna be fine. Anybody with a 2018 iPad Pro, especially if you have the

00:48:35 ◼   ► one terabyte model, but even with the other ones, I think you're just gonna be fine and

00:48:39 ◼   ► you can avoid this iPad Pro. If you have an older one, then totally go for it. And I think

00:48:45 ◼   ► this is pretty much what every reviewer said. Like, if you have an older iPad Pro that is

00:48:49 ◼   ► not the 2018 one, unless you're an ARKit developer, if you have an older one, go with a new model.

00:48:58 ◼   ► If you have a 2018 iPad Pro, stick with it and let's see what happens with this rumored

00:49:04 ◼   ► mini LED iPad Pro coming supposedly later this year.

00:49:07 ◼   ► Yeah, I've got the 11-inch, the 2018 one, and I have the 4GB RAM.

00:49:13 ◼   ► It never feels slow.

00:49:15 ◼   ► I'm perfectly fine skipping this generation.

00:49:17 ◼   ► I am going to do the Magic Keyboard, but I think it's great that Apple made that thing

00:49:22 ◼   ► backwards compatible.

00:49:23 ◼   ► I think that's kind of a nod towards like, yeah, this this update isn't meant to be a year-over-year thing. Mm-hmm

00:49:29 ◼   ► So Myke yeah, I think you want to share like at you guys. I'm pretty sure I shared it already

00:49:35 ◼   ► I did I did buy one the okay

00:49:39 ◼   ► So like reason number one why I bought one is I ordered it before I read anything. Okay?

00:49:44 ◼   ► Right. So that was reason number one

00:49:47 ◼   ► So I just put the order in and now at this point I kind of feel like one of us has to have it

00:49:53 ◼   ► so I have it now. I'm hoping the 6GB of RAM will mean something. I was also

00:50:00 ◼   ► waiting for an iPad update because I wanted to donate my larger 12.9"

00:50:05 ◼   ► iPad to Adina because she's using the 10.5 and I think that and she's also

00:50:12 ◼   ► starting to do more illustration projects again and wants to use Procreate

00:50:16 ◼   ► more and I think that she will find it much better to have a bigger screen and

00:50:21 ◼   ► the Apple Pencil 2 rather than the Apple Pencil 1. Everybody knows I love AR, right? Like

00:50:27 ◼   ► that's a big thing in my life. You know this about me, right? That I'm always in AR, so

00:50:31 ◼   ► this is going to be great. Just excited about that. If I'm going to be really, really petty

00:50:36 ◼   ► and nitpicky, the mismatched camera cut out on the Magic Keyboard would bother me.

00:50:41 ◼   ► You'll never see it. It's in the back.

00:50:44 ◼   ► But when I close it up.

00:50:46 ◼   ► You look at it.

00:50:47 ◼   ► And I'm walking around with it and I guarantee right now that both of you are gonna be sad about it

00:50:53 ◼   ► And I bet Steven upgrades his iPad because of it. That's the best bet that I'm making right now

00:50:58 ◼   ► Or Steven will quote unquote drop his iPad accidentally

00:51:02 ◼   ► The most expensive camera mismatch you've ever seen

00:51:09 ◼   ► I will say since the Apple stores are closed. My phone has been in a case a hundred percent of the time

00:51:16 ◼   ► Incredibly danger-prone. I'm not gonna be updating my 11

00:51:20 ◼   ► And that and that's kind of it like I have it like, you know, probably well not probably

00:51:27 ◼   ► I didn't there was no reason for me to get this thing, but I have it now so I actually have it now

00:51:31 ◼   ► I've opened it it arrived like just before we started recording you want to do some unboxing Foley workforce

00:51:36 ◼   ► I mean, I can't imagine it's gonna be very exciting. Well, I could put some explosions in the background or something

00:51:41 ◼   ► [explosion]

00:51:43 ◼   ► Wow, this is ASMR, everybody.

00:51:54 ◼   ► I feel like I'm encroaching on Steven's territory.

00:51:57 ◼   ► Unboxing. iPad Pro. 6GB of RAM.

00:52:03 ◼   ► Okay.

00:52:05 ◼   ► Are we done with that now?

00:52:06 ◼   ► I feel so relaxed now.

00:52:08 ◼   ► [crinkling]

00:52:13 ◼   ► Uh, is that the plastic? Is that the film on top of it?

00:52:16 ◼   ► Uh huh.

00:52:17 ◼   ► Oh yeah, that's nice.

00:52:18 ◼   ► [crinkling]

00:52:20 ◼   ► Does the camera module look like a face?

00:52:23 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:52:23 ◼   ► [laughter]

00:52:25 ◼   ► It's nice to have a silver iPad again.

00:52:27 ◼   ► Silver's the right color for everything.

00:52:29 ◼   ► Mm-hmm.

00:52:30 ◼   ► Is it?

00:52:31 ◼   ► It is.

00:52:31 ◼   ► Is it though?

00:52:32 ◼   ► Mm.

00:52:33 ◼   ► It's got...

00:52:34 ◼   ► [crinkling]

00:52:35 ◼   ► comes with a...

00:52:37 ◼   ► I'm trying to read the wattage on the plug, but it's hidden.

00:52:41 ◼   ► The plug.

00:52:43 ◼   ► It's literally impossible for me to see this. They hide it underneath the prongs now on the UK ones.

00:52:48 ◼   ► Under the prongs.

00:52:50 ◼   ► Yep.

00:52:51 ◼   ► So I don't know.

00:52:55 ◼   ► It should say on the box.

00:52:57 ◼   ► Should it?

00:52:57 ◼   ► Mm-hmm.

00:52:58 ◼   ► I mean, who needs to know this information? No one cares.

00:53:00 ◼   ► I was just trying to find something of interest.

00:53:02 ◼   ► Federico left.

00:53:03 ◼   ► No, I'm sitting here.

00:53:05 ◼   ► You're the only one that leaves during the show when people talk about things they're excited about.

00:53:08 ◼   ► I didn't leave!

00:53:09 ◼   ► Yep.

00:53:10 ◼   ► Yes you did.

00:53:10 ◼   ► Sure.

00:53:11 ◼   ► We all know you left and you're trying to like

00:53:14 ◼   ► retcon it and make yourself sound better by saying you did.

00:53:16 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:53:16 ◼   ► The box is so much bigger than it needs to be, it feels like.

00:53:21 ◼   ► Anyway, so there we go, new iPad.

00:53:22 ◼   ► I'm gonna put stickers on it and I'm so excited because I've not had stickers on a device for

00:53:29 ◼   ► many months now.

00:53:30 ◼   ► So you put the stickers on the iPad, not on the cover?

00:53:33 ◼   ► Yeah, yeah.

00:53:34 ◼   ► Okay.

00:53:34 ◼   ► Yeah, yeah.

00:53:35 ◼   ► Because as I said earlier, I never have it in a cover.

00:53:38 ◼   ► Okay. Alright, well, congratulations.

00:53:42 ◼   ► So do we want to talk about this rumor there's going to be a second iPad Pro this year?

00:53:46 ◼   ► Well, I mean, that rumor's been around for a while. Like, we've spoken about it on the show,

00:53:50 ◼   ► and I think that this product just makes that seem more likely.

00:53:53 ◼   ► Agreed.

00:53:54 ◼   ► Mini-LED, 5G...

00:53:56 ◼   ► They should do it. Like, put, I don't know, 8 gigs of RAM on that thing,

00:54:01 ◼   ► new display, make it like a pro version of the iPad Pro, like an even pro-er pro, right?

00:54:11 ◼   ► [laughter]

00:54:12 ◼   ► No, for real though! Like mini-LED, more RAM, 5G, new processor, I don't know.

00:54:18 ◼   ► Put a bunch of holes in the back of it.

00:54:21 ◼   ► Why not? Oh, like my secret dream for this thing? Let me pay a good extra to have, and

00:54:33 ◼   ► I'm gonna say it, and I'm gonna actually write about this too, a matte display. Like, let

00:54:41 ◼   ► me pay for a matte iPad Pro with like, I don't know, it could be the nano texture thing,

00:54:46 ◼   ► I don't know, figure out a way to offer a real anti-glare display on the iPad Pro. Let

00:54:54 ◼   ► me pay extra for it and I will give you the money, please. Like, I really don't... Like,

00:55:00 ◼   ► I'm using the... I'm still using the MOSHI iVisor screen protector, which is... It's pretty

00:55:05 ◼   ► good, but, you know, to have an actual matte display, that would be fantastic. So, they

00:55:11 ◼   ► They should do it. Like, offer a bunch of cutting edge features that are still not part

00:55:19 ◼   ► of the regular iPad Pro line.

00:55:22 ◼   ► How much more will you pay for them at screen?

00:55:25 ◼   ► Oh, I would pay.

00:55:26 ◼   ► How much?

00:55:27 ◼   ► I don't know, up to a thousand.

00:55:29 ◼   ► You'd go up to a thousand?

00:55:31 ◼   ► Oh yeah.

00:55:32 ◼   ► Up to and including? If they said it was a cool 1000 euro to do it, you'd pay?

00:55:37 ◼   ► Yes, I will sign a document that says that I will pay a thousand euros right now.

00:55:41 ◼   ► No, you just pay it to Apple. You don't need to sign anything for us.

00:55:45 ◼   ► No, I need to make it official.

00:55:46 ◼   ► Give me a document to sign.

00:55:47 ◼   ► I will do it because if that will be an investment, especially when I'm at the beach in the summer,

00:55:54 ◼   ► if it means that I can actually get some editing work done, absolutely. I would pay that extra.

00:56:01 ◼   ► Yes. I will need to explain to my accountant, but I would.

00:56:04 ◼   ► It's for your work.

00:56:06 ◼   ► It'll probably get a bit of processor too, this other one, right? Like an actual real

00:56:11 ◼   ► increment.

00:56:12 ◼   ► It's still the A12, it's all the differences of that GPU core, so it's not even the same

00:56:15 ◼   ► generation as the iPhone is still behind.

00:56:18 ◼   ► I guess at that point it would be the A14X, if they actually do it this year.

00:56:23 ◼   ► Yes.

00:56:24 ◼   ► Because the iPhone is getting the A14, so this would be the A14X. Yeah, mini-LED 5G

00:56:29 ◼   ► new processor. That would be nice.

00:56:32 ◼   ► Yeah, I think it will happen.

00:56:34 ◼   ► I want to believe, you know?

00:56:38 ◼   ► That's also a reference of X-Files, which I've never watched, but I know the reference.

00:56:42 ◼   ► I would love to have your matte screen, but I do not think they will do it.

00:56:48 ◼   ► I want them to do it, and I'm sure you're probably the same.

00:56:52 ◼   ► Don't think they will, would love it if they would.

00:56:54 ◼   ► I would also love a second USB-C port, but especially now that they've done the Magic

00:56:57 ◼   ► keyboard, I don't think that they're ever going to add the second port.

00:57:01 ◼   ► Your second port is in the Magic keyboard.

00:57:03 ◼   ► I don't think I would pay a thousand pounds for the matte screen though.

00:57:08 ◼   ► A thousand pounds or so much more, I think. I don't know.

00:57:13 ◼   ► A thousand pounds is more than a thousand euro, that's true.

00:57:16 ◼   ► Yeah, right? I know. Okay. Okay. Just checking. I don't know. Would you pay 700 pounds though?

00:57:23 ◼   ► I don't know. I don't know. It's a lot of money.

00:57:28 ◼   ► Steven, would you get one of these?

00:57:30 ◼   ► With the matte display?

00:57:31 ◼   ► Or without?

00:57:32 ◼   ► I mean, you can answer separately. So I'm skipping this iPad. But yeah, if it's a 14

00:57:39 ◼   ► and better screen everything like I think I would say it, say it. I mean, in the one

00:57:47 ◼   ► corner of the country, you can get 5g. Sure. Okay. Sure. It's mostly made up, which also

00:57:54 ◼   ► happens to be in Memphis, right? Because you guys have my neighborhood was listed in that

00:57:58 ◼   ► document. Oh boy. Yeah, I'd definitely be interested in that. But for now, I think the

00:58:06 ◼   ► 2018 is great. I do think this is going to be like a weird short-lived sort of half step.

00:58:11 ◼   ► You know why actually I will be happy about buying this iPad? Is this iPad gets me my

00:58:18 ◼   ► pick without it being what I thought it was going to be?

00:58:21 ◼   ► You thought it'd be 5G.

00:58:23 ◼   ► We thought it'd be 5G. So if the iPad gets 5G, the iPad will definitely be announced

00:58:28 ◼   ► after the iPhone, you would assume and so then I will get the pic for the 5g iPad and

00:58:33 ◼   ► the pic for the feature before so then I will be like super happy about buying this iPad

00:58:38 ◼   ► because I'm like supporting my own when it came up in the chat room that USB C port in

00:58:43 ◼   ► the Magic Keyboard that is just for power. So you can't that's like in Yeah, you can't

00:58:48 ◼   ► plug in a hard drive thing. That's totally fine. Because most of the time, you're just

00:58:52 ◼   ► using you just want it for power. So it kind of stays out of the way. And in that situation

00:58:56 ◼   ► where it's on your desk and then you pick it up and take it with you, then

00:59:00 ◼   ► it's charging without you having to plug anything in, right? You just sit it back

00:59:03 ◼   ► in the keyboard case and it starts charging. I think a lot of people who use

00:59:06 ◼   ► this at a desk are just gonna leave their case plugged in all the time.

00:59:09 ◼   ► I have a bit of a random question to put out to listeners while we're talking

00:59:14 ◼   ► about USB-C and the iPad Pro. Just like a small request that maybe

00:59:18 ◼   ► there's like a single person out there who knows the answer and can

00:59:22 ◼   ► confirm this with me. So if you are really into high resolution audio, if

00:59:28 ◼   ► anybody happens to know, actually happens to be able to confirm with me whether

00:59:33 ◼   ► the USB-C port on the 2018 or 2020, for that matter, iPad Pro, supports up to 24

00:59:40 ◼   ► bit 192 kilohertz output, I would be really happy if you could confirm this

00:59:46 ◼   ► with me, specifically if you ever tried to connect a USB DAC to the USB-C

00:59:51 ◼   ► support of the iPad Pro. So I just thought, you know, we were talking about it, I just thought I would ask.

00:59:57 ◼   ► I know that there's a bunch of people out there who use like Amazon Music Hi-Fi or

01:00:02 ◼   ► Tidal Hi-Fi on the iPhone and iPad Pro and I cannot find any official documentation on this.

01:00:09 ◼   ► I just was able to find a single person on a random Amazon Music forum who did a bunch of tests with

01:00:17 ◼   ► the 2018 iPad Pro and audio quality like high resolution audio output via the USB-C port

01:00:24 ◼   ► so if anybody else has ever done this please get in touch with me and let me know because

01:00:27 ◼   ► I'm working on a story about it. Thank you. Did you guys get any of that?

01:00:31 ◼   ► Yeah, but I don't know.

01:00:33 ◼   ► Mm-hmm. Okay.

01:00:35 ◼   ► I don't even really know how to test what you want, honestly. Like I don't even...

01:00:39 ◼   ► Oh.

01:00:40 ◼   ► You can give me all the stuff and I wouldn't be able to...

01:00:45 ◼   ► Usually, if you have an external USB DAC, it usually comes with a display that shows

01:00:51 ◼   ► you the audio quality that is coming in from an audio source.

01:00:55 ◼   ► And they mostly don't work? Or you're not sure if it would work?

01:00:59 ◼   ► No, right now my USB DAC works, but the app... So I don't know if it depends on the app that

01:01:06 ◼   ► you're using on the iPad when playing back, like, FLAC music files, for example, or if

01:01:14 ◼   ► depends on other factors. Right now I'm testing with my Flux library, and the app that I'm using

01:01:19 ◼   ► is called Prism, and Prism is a Plex client, so it's like a third-party client for Plex.

01:01:26 ◼   ► My Flux music is stored in Plex. I am unable to tell whether the output is going up to 24-bit or not,

01:01:36 ◼   ► so I figured maybe somebody else has ever tried this before me, and they will be able to confirm

01:01:42 ◼   ► with me. I also wonder if it's a problem of the USB cable that I'm using as an adapter.

01:01:49 ◼   ► There could be some downsampling happening with that USB cable, I don't know. Again, I have no idea.

01:01:56 ◼   ► And there's no official documentation from this from Apple. Apple does have these kinds of details

01:02:02 ◼   ► when it comes to the external, like there's a document here called "About the external

01:02:08 ◼   ► features and ports on iMac and iMac Pro. And they do have some diesels.

01:02:12 ◼   ► You don't have one of those. You're looking at the wrong thing.

01:02:15 ◼   ► They do have diesels on audio. But I got the wrong Pro, Apple, not the Mac one. So if you

01:02:25 ◼   ► are one of those people, please get in touch with me and share your knowledge with me.

01:02:31 ◼   ► Thank you. Good luck with that.

01:02:34 ◼   ► Nobody will, I'm sure. You're on your own.

01:02:37 ◼   ► This is the thing, you need to, you would be the person to answer that question for

01:02:41 ◼   ► someone else.

01:02:42 ◼   ► I know, I know.

01:02:43 ◼   ► Like that's as far as it goes.

01:02:44 ◼   ► I know.

01:02:45 ◼   ► You're not...

01:02:46 ◼   ► Just assign us the job.

01:02:47 ◼   ► Also, if you happen to work at Apple, and you want something, please let me know.

01:02:50 ◼   ► There, that's the only way.

01:02:52 ◼   ► Privately.

01:02:53 ◼   ► If you happen to work for Apple on USB audio on the iPad, it's like one person.

01:02:59 ◼   ► And you've tested this very specific feature that Federico's interested in.

01:03:04 ◼   ► Please let me know.

01:03:05 ◼   ► The only thing I was able to discover, again, from other people on online forum boards,

01:03:11 ◼   ► is that the Airplay audio protocol, so we're talking wireless now, was locked to PCM 44.1

01:03:21 ◼   ► kHz, which is like the standard CD quality audio stuff. Again, that's Airplay, so it's

01:03:27 ◼   ► like a different thing. I'm interested in the USB-C port on the 2018 iPad Pro. What

01:03:33 ◼   ► kind of audio output does he support? Is this guy called... Is it called "Fatburger"? I

01:03:39 ◼   ► think his name is Fatburger. What? What are you talking about? Where are we going now?

01:03:47 ◼   ► This person on avforum.com... Oh, okay. Now, all done. Steven, can we go to an ad, please?

01:03:57 ◼   ► Yep. Thank you. No, no, no, this person, this person... No, no. So the person, the original

01:04:01 ◼   ► poster is called Joker with two R's at the end. This is actually very well done, a comparison

01:04:07 ◼   ► of using the Tidal app and the Amazon Music HD app on the iPad, 2018 iPad Pro via the

01:04:14 ◼   ► USB-C port. It's very detailed, but I don't believe that Joker works at Apple.

01:04:20 ◼   ► No.

01:04:21 ◼   ► Or, you know, so...

01:04:22 ◼   ► Neither do I.

01:04:24 ◼   ► I will share this link for the show.

01:04:26 ◼   ► Please do.

01:04:27 ◼   ► Yes.

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01:06:03 ◼   ► relay FM iOS 13.4 is out in the world. Federico, you may be unaware of this, but there's a

01:06:11 ◼   ► story over on Mac stories about this going into all of the features.

01:06:15 ◼   ► I don't know why this is a joke now. I want you to understand that the Power Mac G5 was

01:06:22 ◼   ► an isolated issue, because it's a boring computer. I need you to understand this, Steven.

01:06:27 ◼   ► It had liquid cooling, man!

01:06:29 ◼   ► I read all the stories that go up on my website.

01:06:32 ◼   ► Liquid cooling.

01:06:33 ◼   ► But the particular one I also read, it just didn't stick with me. I'm sorry.

01:06:37 ◼   ► I read them, and when I say me, I mean sometimes Jon reads them. I mean, Jon always reads your

01:06:43 ◼   ► column I never read your column. That is factually untrue. Okay. I reject that

01:06:52 ◼   ► accusation. Yes. Accusation even nicer. It's an accusation. I don't like it. So anyway,

01:06:58 ◼   ► so Ryan did an excellent job going through all of the features, iPad,

01:07:03 ◼   ► cursor support, iCloud, shared folders, and more. Let's start with cursor support. So

01:07:10 ◼   ► we played with it in the beta and if you haven't yet or haven't seen it, Jason

01:07:13 ◼   ► put this amazing article together with a bunch of gifts where he captured

01:07:16 ◼   ► different things the cursor can do and I want to know how you guys are feeling

01:07:21 ◼   ► about this so far. Loving it. Yeah. Absolutely loving it. Loving it.

01:07:28 ◼   ► Oh it's made my iPad so much better. Like I just I'm so happy boys. I really am so

01:07:34 ◼   ► happy. Like just so good. It's fantastic. I love it.

01:07:38 ◼   ► So that's my review.

01:07:39 ◼   ► Wow.

01:07:40 ◼   ► So do you like it?

01:07:41 ◼   ► It's just brilliant.

01:07:42 ◼   ► It's like, honestly, it's as big an impact to me as an entire iOS release.

01:07:52 ◼   ► This is no hyperbole.

01:07:54 ◼   ► This 13.4 is as important to me as 13 was, because it is completely changing the way

01:08:00 ◼   ► that I use my iPad for the better.

01:08:03 ◼   ► I was already using every single day the accessibility mode, and it was okay.

01:08:08 ◼   ► This is so well implemented, so well done, and I am happy and excited for numbers.

01:08:16 ◼   ► You know the update to numbers?

01:08:17 ◼   ► Something you could never do on numbers on iOS that drove me mad was you couldn't do

01:08:21 ◼   ► that thing, I don't know what you would call it, the automatic formula stuff where you

01:08:25 ◼   ► would click a cell and drag down and it will fill.

01:08:29 ◼   ► You can't do that on numbers, but you can with a cursor.

01:08:33 ◼   ► So very excited about that.

01:08:36 ◼   ► Just stuff like that.

01:08:38 ◼   ► But just in general, it's fantastic, I love it, and using my iPad is even more comfortable

01:08:44 ◼   ► and amazing than it's ever been.

01:08:46 ◼   ► So I'm super excited about it.

01:08:48 ◼   ► So I'm gonna share a story about these and other things that I've been doing with my

01:08:53 ◼   ► iPad Pro next week.

01:08:55 ◼   ► I'm working on it right now.

01:08:57 ◼   ► But basically, the best thing about this native cursor is that they did not copy the Mac cursor.

01:09:05 ◼   ► And it's really hard to describe it.

01:09:11 ◼   ► I think, and I'm sorry Steven, if the analogy doesn't, you know, you can leave for 30 seconds

01:09:19 ◼   ► if you want to.

01:09:20 ◼   ► I'm not going to leave.

01:09:21 ◼   ► But you know how, like, when you play Super Mario on a Nintendo console.

01:09:26 ◼   ► I'm leaving!

01:09:27 ◼   ► I mean, come on, it's Super Mario, it's universal.

01:09:30 ◼   ► Yeah, of course.

01:09:32 ◼   ► When you play Super Mario on a Nintendo console and you click the button and Mario jumps and

01:09:36 ◼   ► it feels like the button that you click on the controller, and this has been true forever

01:09:41 ◼   ► on the Game Boy, on the Super Nintendo, on the Wii, but the button is like a natural

01:09:46 ◼   ► extension of your finger, like it just...

01:09:52 ◼   ► Nintendo created that illusion that the button is like part of the game itself, it's not

01:09:57 ◼   ► plastic button. It just feels like it's integrated so well with the game, that when you press it,

01:10:03 ◼   ► Mario jumps. And it's so natural, and it's so intuitive, and I feel to an extent that there's

01:10:08 ◼   ► a bit of that magic in the native cursor, in that it just feels like it's part of the UI,

01:10:15 ◼   ► even though it's actually based on an external accessory, like it requires additional hardware,

01:10:21 ◼   ► but it just feels like it's a native component of the interface.

01:10:27 ◼   ► And the way that it squishes and the little dot becomes an I-beam,

01:10:35 ◼   ► or becomes a tool that highlights icons and toolbar elements,

01:10:41 ◼   ► it just feels so intuitive and natural.

01:10:43 ◼   ► And that is why I believe the best thing that Apple could have done here

01:10:48 ◼   ► copy the default behavior of macOS, because that would have worked maybe, but it wouldn't have been

01:10:54 ◼   ► as intuitive, as seamless maybe is the right word for it, as it is right now.

01:11:01 ◼   ► It also would have made a different statement. The statement would have been, the only way this

01:11:08 ◼   ► can be done is the way it's currently done, where what this shows is there's a different way to do

01:11:14 ◼   ► like fundamentally it's the same type of thing but this is a different operating

01:11:19 ◼   ► system it's built differently it has different underpinnings like you can

01:11:23 ◼   ► make it look different and act differently that fits more with the

01:11:30 ◼   ► operating system like this would feel weird on the Mac like the traditional

01:11:34 ◼   ► pointer would feel weird on iPad OS yeah I also feel like if the way that Apple

01:11:41 ◼   ► has done this, it feeds into the idea that the iPad is this new kind of computer that

01:11:49 ◼   ► can adapt to different scenarios. So like, it can be a tablet, it can be sort of like

01:11:57 ◼   ► a laptop and there's going to be a magic keyboard, you can use it with a stand, you can use it

01:12:03 ◼   ► with an external monitor, like there's this multiplicity of inputs and the way they all

01:12:10 ◼   ► work together with a single computer. I think that's what sets the iPad apart from a Mac,

01:12:17 ◼   ► and that is why I am so happy that they did this different cursor implementation. So it's

01:12:23 ◼   ► very well done, and I really recommend reading the page from the Human Interface Guidelines

01:12:31 ◼   ► on.

01:12:32 ◼   ► I love that they added this to the HIG. It's really nicely done, and I'm very happy that

01:12:36 ◼   ► it's there.

01:12:37 ◼   ► They have some examples of what I believe is a keynote update that is not out yet, but

01:12:43 ◼   ► showing how they took advantage of pointer customization.

01:12:49 ◼   ► When you're dragging certain elements in Keynote on your iPad, the cursor transforms into this

01:12:55 ◼   ► arrow tool that shows you exactly what you can do.

01:12:58 ◼   ► I was excited to learn that developers could customize it.

01:13:03 ◼   ► I think that's really exciting and surprising.

01:13:07 ◼   ► I wasn't expecting that, but you are able to visually represent things that you're doing

01:13:13 ◼   ► with the cursor by manipulating the design of the cursor.

01:13:17 ◼   ► And a third-party developer can do that themselves, and I think that's really cool.

01:13:21 ◼   ► Yeah, so go check that out.

01:13:24 ◼   ► And I've been retweeting some developers who are taking advantage of the new API in 13.4.

01:13:31 ◼   ► So we're talking about hover customizations, so when you hover over elements, the pointer

01:13:35 ◼   ► customizations, the effects that you can add. There's definitely more coming. I know the

01:13:40 ◼   ► developers are working on this stuff right now. Obviously Rambo is sending me a beta of the

01:13:47 ◼   ► Chibi Studio app. They have an update coming with deep trackpad integration. Super well done. They

01:13:54 ◼   ► have all kinds of like hover effects and tooltips when you hover over tools in the palette. So this

01:14:02 ◼   ► This is like a chibi studio.

01:14:04 ◼   ► It's like an avatar creation utility.

01:14:07 ◼   ► So they have like, it's a design tool.

01:14:10 ◼   ► So when you hover over buttons, you got a tool tip.

01:14:13 ◼   ► It's sort of like Photoshop in a way.

01:14:16 ◼   ► You have this tool, this palette on the side.

01:14:18 ◼   ► It's very well done.

01:14:19 ◼   ► Doesn't surprise me that it's been reverse engineering

01:14:23 ◼   ► even before the new version of Xcode was out last night.

01:14:28 ◼   ► So yeah, if you're a developer working on this stuff,

01:14:30 ◼   ► get in touch.

01:14:31 ◼   ► I love the way that it's done.

01:14:33 ◼   ► I was able, thanks to this, to really simplify my setup

01:14:39 ◼   ► at my desk with the ultra-fine monitor that I use.

01:14:42 ◼   ► I now use a Magic Trackpad 2 with the iPad.

01:14:45 ◼   ► I love it, it's so well done.

01:14:47 ◼   ► And again, the best part, they didn't copy the Mac

01:14:49 ◼   ► and they did not wait for iPadOS 14.

01:14:54 ◼   ► So thank you, Apple, I guess.

01:14:56 ◼   ► - It's amazing to me how well it works

01:14:59 ◼   ► in some apps that haven't been updated. Like I think it's the more standard your UI is,

01:15:04 ◼   ► the more you get this just out of the box. There are definitely some some apps that it needs some

01:15:08 ◼   ► some help in. But if you haven't played with this yet, like just take a magic mouse or magic

01:15:12 ◼   ► trackpad, hook it up and just spend some time with it because it really, it really does change how

01:15:18 ◼   ► the iPad feels. And it means that you're still gonna need to touch the screen for stuff. I think

01:15:22 ◼   ► that'll, that'll always be true. But you can if you want to keep your hands down, do that really

01:15:28 ◼   ► easily now too. I'm a big fan. It's really good. I love it. Another feature in 13.4 is

01:15:35 ◼   ► iCloud folder sharing. Finally. This was announced for iOS 13. But it's here now. So that is

01:15:44 ◼   ► part of iOS 13.4 and the Catalina update 10.15.4. And I can say how it works there as well.

01:15:52 ◼   ► You go into iCloud, you add a folder or you pick a folder and you have to add add a person

01:15:58 ◼   ► from the share sheet.

01:16:00 ◼   ► And like I don't like I don't spend hardly any time in the files app.

01:16:03 ◼   ► The only real cloud services Dropbox and I just use their app.

01:16:07 ◼   ► But boy, I find files confusing in places like why do I have to long press to get to

01:16:10 ◼   ► things like it's just, it's messy in places.

01:16:14 ◼   ► But you can add people and you can do it.

01:16:16 ◼   ► It looks like just like sharing an Apple Note.

01:16:18 ◼   ► So you can do it via email or text or whatever.

01:16:21 ◼   ► So I sent y'all a link via iMessage and, you know, we put some files in there.

01:16:26 ◼   ► I renamed one of them a couple times and, you know, edited a picture and it all seems

01:16:31 ◼   ► fine.

01:16:32 ◼   ► I am not looking to replace Dropbox, but I think if you want to, this is probably okay

01:16:37 ◼   ► by now, but I would do some testing before you put your whole life into it.

01:16:43 ◼   ► It's interesting on the Mac, we have a link in the show notes, the shared folders get

01:16:48 ◼   ► little labels.

01:16:50 ◼   ► And so it does this on iOS too.

01:16:52 ◼   ► Does it?

01:16:53 ◼   ► It's like off to the side, it says shared by me, added by Myke Hurley, modified by Federico

01:16:58 ◼   ► Vatici.

01:16:59 ◼   ► So you can kind of keep track with what's going on.

01:17:02 ◼   ► Dropbox does not do this.

01:17:04 ◼   ► I think it's nice.

01:17:05 ◼   ► It's really weird.

01:17:06 ◼   ► Like nothing else on the Mac and finder looks like this.

01:17:09 ◼   ► But I mean, I guess Dropbox does it in their own way.

01:17:12 ◼   ► When they have like the shared thing in their app and the menu bar, like it's not the same,

01:17:18 ◼   ► but yeah.

01:17:19 ◼   ► It's not right there in Finder.

01:17:21 ◼   ► Exactly.

01:17:22 ◼   ► I'm not gonna use this for anything.

01:17:24 ◼   ► I have no plans on using this.

01:17:26 ◼   ► Are you ever gonna do it?

01:17:29 ◼   ► Like seriously use this for something?

01:17:31 ◼   ► Nope.

01:17:32 ◼   ► Not right now.

01:17:34 ◼   ► I wanna hear the horror stories first.

01:17:37 ◼   ► And then I want Apple to fix them.

01:17:40 ◼   ► Then I will consider it.

01:17:42 ◼   ► Because you know, sounds bad is gonna happen here.

01:17:44 ◼   ► For sure.

01:17:46 ◼   ► And I want somebody else to experience that nightmare before me.

01:17:49 ◼   ► I mean, all nothing happens and it's just a long time and we keep hearing people saying

01:17:53 ◼   ► that they're using it and it's good and then we can go with it but...

01:17:57 ◼   ► Maybe.

01:17:58 ◼   ► But there are horror stories in Dropbox.

01:18:02 ◼   ► It happens.

01:18:03 ◼   ► Bad stuff happens.

01:18:04 ◼   ► But it happens less frequently and you are confident that even if something weird happened

01:18:09 ◼   ► it would be like, well it's not going to keep happening to me.

01:18:12 ◼   ► Well at least that's what you think, right?

01:18:13 ◼   ► Because you've had a long history with it.

01:18:15 ◼   ► But I'm keen to see how people get on with it,

01:18:19 ◼   ► but I just have no desire or requirement for it.

01:18:24 ◼   ► I'm perfectly fine with Dropbox.

01:18:25 ◼   ► It's working great for me.

01:18:26 ◼   ► Has done for years.

01:18:28 ◼   ► - So much of my workflow revolves around

01:18:30 ◼   ► shared folders in Dropbox.

01:18:31 ◼   ► And everyone I work with is gonna have an iCloud account,

01:18:35 ◼   ► but a lot of people that's not true for.

01:18:37 ◼   ► And so that limits it.

01:18:39 ◼   ► I think Dropbox has a more,

01:18:42 ◼   ► maybe it's not a large user base, I'm sure,

01:18:44 ◼   ► but for this it's much more widely known.

01:18:46 ◼   ► Like how many people even know this is a thing?

01:18:48 ◼   ► I would say that you probably shouldn't put any base64

01:18:51 ◼   ► in a shared folder, so Federico please don't base64 us.

01:18:55 ◼   ► - We'll see about that.

01:18:56 ◼   ► - Oh no.

01:18:57 ◼   ► - Gotta remove that folder?

01:18:58 ◼   ► - We shared a folder with him.

01:19:00 ◼   ► - Maybe it's too late.

01:19:02 ◼   ► Maybe you will end up like John Voorhees

01:19:04 ◼   ► with thousands of text files.

01:19:06 ◼   ► (laughing)

01:19:07 ◼   ► - Peanut butter butter butter butter peanut peanut butter.

01:19:09 ◼   ► (laughing)

01:19:11 ◼   ► had I had a bit of a problem installing 10, or 10. I had a little bit of trouble

01:19:17 ◼   ► installing iOS 13.4. 10! That was your problem. Trying to install iOS 10, it wouldn't go on my phone.

01:19:25 ◼   ► Where my, I was talking with you guys, my iPhone would tell me that it

01:19:31 ◼   ► downloaded but it could not verify the update because I was no longer connected

01:19:34 ◼   ► to the internet. I was like well that's not, that's just not true. Like yeah I can

01:19:39 ◼   ► imagine you would have a problem if I was not connected to the internet. I know I am.

01:19:43 ◼   ► I'm sending messages. Yeah, I sent a screenshot of you Mr. error message. You know, I talked

01:19:51 ◼   ► that airplane mode, I restarted the phone, and I came across this support document. I

01:19:57 ◼   ► did not know this, you can remove a downloaded update from your phone. If you go into the

01:20:03 ◼   ► settings area that shows you your local storage. It's listed in the list of apps. So it's like

01:20:08 ◼   ► like overcast, you know, 800 megs photos, you know, 32 gigs or whatever.

01:20:14 ◼   ► And then iOS update, however many megabytes it was, and I deleted that and read downloaded

01:20:20 ◼   ► it and that fixed it for me.

01:20:22 ◼   ► So I don't think this is a widespread problem.

01:20:24 ◼   ► I even like tried searching Twitter, it doesn't seem to be a real thing.

01:20:27 ◼   ► But now I know this, this is a helpful little, little thing because I was afraid I was gonna

01:20:32 ◼   ► like hook it up to my computer and update it through, you know, what's left of iTunes,

01:20:35 ◼   ► I didn't want to do that.

01:20:36 ◼   ► So that that sort of jump started it for me.

01:20:40 ◼   ► So if you do come across that at some point, you can remove that update and redownload

01:20:43 ◼   ► it and then that it it sailed right through after that.

01:20:48 ◼   ► There's also some features for education and enterprise users.

01:20:53 ◼   ► So this comes from an article on nine to five by our buddy Bradley chambers.

01:20:59 ◼   ► There's been shared iPad support in schools for a couple of years now where multiple students

01:21:05 ◼   ► can use an iPad if you're if it's all set up correctly with Apple school manager. But

01:21:10 ◼   ► now that is available through businesses through the managed Apple ID program. So if you manage

01:21:18 ◼   ► Apple IDs for your employees, you can get that multi user support on the iPad. There's

01:21:25 ◼   ► also a shared iPad temporary session. So someone can use a set, you know, use an iPad without

01:21:32 ◼   ► needing to log into it. Just like on the Mac, there's the guest access user, it's been there

01:21:38 ◼   ► forever, where like someone can log into it and check their Facebook and then they log

01:21:44 ◼   ► out like all the records are destroyed. Same thing on the iPad. Now, I really want this

01:21:49 ◼   ► to come to iCloud sharing for families. David and I did a big episode of Mac power users

01:21:56 ◼   ► on iCloud family sharing a couple, maybe a month ago or so. And this would be a great

01:22:02 ◼   ► edition where I've got more kids than I have kids iPads and it would be nice if they could

01:22:07 ◼   ► have their own ID and and log into their own user on the iPad and hopefully that's the

01:22:12 ◼   ► next step here as Apple continues to roll this out. But if you if you are in an environment

01:22:18 ◼   ► with managed Apple IDs, this could be a useful thing for you.

01:22:21 ◼   ► Not gonna hold out hope for it because it's been an education for a long time.

01:22:28 ◼   ► Two years, I think.

01:22:29 ◼   ► That's a long time.

01:22:30 ◼   ► And so now it made it to business two years later. So in two years, it will show up and

01:22:34 ◼   ► iCloud family sharing, that'd be really nice. Lastly, universal purchases are now available.

01:22:41 ◼   ► So if you sell iPhone and iPad app, you've been able to share resources between them

01:22:46 ◼   ► share, you know, in app purchases and stuff. And now the Mac is roped into that. But it's

01:22:51 ◼   ► not all great news for I read some of this, but can you kind of explain what's going on?

01:22:57 ◼   ► So Universal Purchases basically allow you to offer a single purchase across multiple

01:23:03 ◼   ► platforms.

01:23:04 ◼   ► So you should be able to offer a Mac OS, TV OS, iOS, and iPad OS app.

01:23:13 ◼   ► So different binaries but a single purchase.

01:23:15 ◼   ► So if you want to offer a premium type of unlock you can now just let people pay once

01:23:23 ◼   ► instead of having to do some more complex things in terms of like checking across platforms if the user

01:23:30 ◼   ► previously purchased that thing on a different device and it used to be very complicated before.

01:23:37 ◼   ► Now, the issue there is that if you were one of the early adopters

01:23:42 ◼   ► as a developer of the Mac Catalyst technology

01:23:48 ◼   ► You cannot take advantage of this right now because you have to start fresh in the sense that the

01:23:55 ◼   ► existing

01:23:57 ◼   ► existing apps that use the Mac Catalyst

01:23:59 ◼   ► Framework for reasons that I don't fully understand they cannot use the universal purchase

01:24:08 ◼   ► thing

01:24:10 ◼   ► Because they've already been made available on the App Store. So you need to start with a new

01:24:18 ◼   ► skew, basically. Which is unfortunate because there are a bunch of early adopters of Catalyst

01:24:24 ◼   ► who, I bet, that given the option, would have gone with a Universal Purchase months ago,

01:24:31 ◼   ► but now they are stuck in the situation of having sold a Catalyst version of their app,

01:24:37 ◼   ► being unable to revert back to the Universal Purchase system, and now they need to make a

01:24:43 ◼   ► decision like do we wait for Apple to make it available for existing catalyst

01:24:49 ◼   ► apps which I think Apple should figure out so I think maybe that would be the

01:24:53 ◼   ► optimal approach like send feedback and wait for Apple to make it possible.

01:24:57 ◼   ► This feels like a can't, like there's something going on here like why would

01:25:03 ◼   ► you not do this it's madness right? I reckon it's some kind of thing where

01:25:09 ◼   ► they had to draw a line and that line included cutting that out. It would just be so strange

01:25:14 ◼   ► to have done it if they could do it. I don't know.

01:25:17 ◼   ► But it penalizes people who adopted their new technology when Apple said "adopt our

01:25:21 ◼   ► new technology." And that's a bad look.

01:25:24 ◼   ► Exactly. Agreed.

01:25:25 ◼   ► So, you know, if developers of course want to start fresh, they would need to abandon

01:25:30 ◼   ► that SKU and losing those customers and losing those reviews. And like, how do you go about

01:25:37 ◼   ► It's the same reason why so many developers these days, instead of releasing separate versions of their iOS apps,

01:25:46 ◼   ► switch to subscription and release a new version as an update to the existing product.

01:25:54 ◼   ► Look at Fantastical 2, for example.

01:25:56 ◼   ► They do this because if they were to release a separate SKU, they would lose all of their existing reviews on the app store.

01:26:03 ◼   ► apps or they will lose all of their positioning in terms of search results on the app store.

01:26:10 ◼   ► It's very complicated to like, it's not as easy as saying, "Yeah, just release a new

01:26:14 ◼   ► app," because that comes with a lot of consequences for developers.

01:26:18 ◼   ► You also lose customers, right, who never know you have a different SKU unless you send

01:26:22 ◼   ► some sort of gross push notification. Like, it's a bad deal.

01:26:26 ◼   ► And then you won't get everyone.

01:26:29 ◼   ► You could show it to people 20 times when they open the app, but you won't get everyone

01:26:35 ◼   ► to move.

01:26:36 ◼   ► Yup.

01:26:37 ◼   ► Obviously, these developers who have launched catalyst versions of apps, and there are some,

01:26:43 ◼   ► like I don't have any official numbers, but let's say about 100, maybe about 100

01:26:49 ◼   ► catalyst apps on the Mac App Store, maybe more, maybe less, but let's say 100.

01:26:53 ◼   ► And some of them are really good apps, right?

01:26:56 ◼   ► actually powerful stuff like Fiery Feeds for example, it's an RSS reader. Like, what do

01:27:04 ◼   ► they do? Do they just abandon the app and they are... because they were one of the

01:27:09 ◼   ► early adopters, which is usually like a good thing to do, right? You know,

01:27:13 ◼   ► following Apple's advice and adopting new technologies is usually a good thing,

01:27:16 ◼   ► but now if they want to support universal purchases they can't. So it's a

01:27:21 ◼   ► bit of a bit of an odd predicament to be in at the moment. It's really... it's

01:27:26 ◼   ► It's kind of awful, actually.

01:27:27 ◼   ► - Frustrating if you're in that situation.

01:27:30 ◼   ► - So those are your universal purchases.

01:27:32 ◼   ► I bet I got some emails from a few developers

01:27:36 ◼   ► who are looking to,

01:27:37 ◼   ► and of course we're talking about new apps, right?

01:27:40 ◼   ► Some new apps coming with this kind of experience,

01:27:43 ◼   ► and I will be sure to check it out

01:27:45 ◼   ► as soon as it's available.

01:27:46 ◼   ► I am curious to see how it works,

01:27:48 ◼   ► but I bet there's nothing to see.

01:27:49 ◼   ► You just purchase it once,

01:27:50 ◼   ► and then you just download on a different platform.

01:27:53 ◼   ► I don't think there will be anything fancy

01:27:55 ◼   ► see on the user's side. It's more of a thing on the developer's side to implement. But

01:28:01 ◼   ► in terms of the actual user experience, you just pay once and then you download it from

01:28:06 ◼   ► the Mac App Store or vice versa and it just works.

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01:30:03 ◼   ► We thought we would round up this week talking about some things that we are enjoying in

01:30:09 ◼   ► our respective shelter-in-place situation. So a lot of people are

01:30:15 ◼   ► spending a lot more time at home and we thought we would just kind of recommend

01:30:19 ◼   ► some stuff that they were enjoying. So Myke, do you want to go first?

01:30:22 ◼   ► Animal Crossing! It's the only thing that matters in the world right now.

01:30:27 ◼   ► For me, it's my only happiness. It's found on my island. I could not be happier about this

01:30:39 ◼   ► game being released when it is because both me and my wife Idina are playing it. We both

01:30:46 ◼   ► have our own switches, we're both playing the game together and it is like helping us

01:30:53 ◼   ► get out of bed in the morning because we spend some time before we do any work like just

01:30:58 ◼   ► checking in on our island and it is genuinely like really helping my mental health right

01:31:05 ◼   ► now because it is a video game that I love but it's also super peaceful and tranquil

01:31:12 ◼   ► and it makes me think I'm outside even though I'm not. This game is absolutely wonderful

01:31:20 ◼   ► and I'm so pleased and I'm enjoying it greatly and it's awesome. You want to add anything

01:31:25 ◼   ► Federico?

01:31:28 ◼   ► I feel like I totally agree with you on the, you know, it's a game that's keeping me sane

01:31:34 ◼   ► right now, in the sense that it's so... like, it's peaceful and like, it makes you feel

01:31:41 ◼   ► that everything's fine, you know? Like, you're not being judged by the game, you cannot lose

01:31:47 ◼   ► at this game, you know? That's been true for Animal Crossing forever. And you can just

01:31:53 ◼   ► take it at your own pace, you can speedrun this game if you want, like, there's people

01:31:57 ◼   ► who time skip on their Nintendo Switch consoles, they change the date to move faster in Animal

01:32:03 ◼   ► crossing but it's certainly fine if you want to take it easy and slow and like

01:32:07 ◼   ► spend a couple of days just fishing or catching bugs and making your island

01:32:11 ◼   ► pretty with flowers like it's totally okay and it's this game unfortunately

01:32:17 ◼   ► this game could have not come out at a better time I think. It's like perfect

01:32:23 ◼   ► it's hit just at the right time for everyone and it's a game that because if

01:32:29 ◼   ► you do play it as it's intended to be played which is everything is running at

01:32:33 ◼   ► real time, it's actually helping me add more structure into my days again

01:32:39 ◼   ► because there are things that I want to do at certain times of the day. You gotta

01:32:42 ◼   ► keep a schedule for your village. You gotta keep a schedule, like it's useful and so

01:32:48 ◼   ► yeah it's just the right type of game for me right now. I want to recommend two

01:32:54 ◼   ► YouTube channels, they are incredibly different. The first one is Linus Tech

01:32:59 ◼   ► Tech Tips. I have only very recently started watching Linus Tech Tips videos and pretty

01:33:05 ◼   ► much all I have been watching on YouTube over the last couple of months is just catching

01:33:10 ◼   ► up on watching and watching what YouTube is recommending to me. Linus Tech Tips is a huge

01:33:17 ◼   ► production. I think it's like 20 people that work at this channel. They have multiple channels

01:33:22 ◼   ► and they're based in Canada. Linus is the main guy but they have a selection of other

01:33:28 ◼   ► individuals that participate towards the videos. They're very PC focused, typically, but they

01:33:36 ◼   ► cover most all the technology. I really, really enjoy watching them build computers. It's

01:33:43 ◼   ► very lovely and fun and the humor mostly works for me. Sometimes it's a bit childish, but

01:33:51 ◼   ► I can overlook some of that.

01:33:54 ◼   ► But I find their PC builds just really good and I enjoy watching it and it's like a different

01:34:00 ◼   ► area of technology that I am somewhat interested in and I'm getting more knowledge from it

01:34:04 ◼   ► by watching these videos.

01:34:08 ◼   ► They're very well made and I have absolutely no idea how they put out a video every day

01:34:13 ◼   ► to the quality that they do.

01:34:14 ◼   ► It is astounding.

01:34:16 ◼   ► You can see why the team is so big when you look at it that way but like really super

01:34:19 ◼   ► The last YouTube channel is the Bon Appetit YouTube channel which is from the cooking

01:34:26 ◼   ► magazine, Bon Appetit by the same name.

01:34:29 ◼   ► This is not your average cooking channel.

01:34:32 ◼   ► Bon Appetit basically has a selection of executive editors, I don't know if they're called executive

01:34:39 ◼   ► editors but what they call editors, but they're effectively YouTube personalities now.

01:34:46 ◼   ► And they are really just very very entertaining videos that they put out.

01:34:53 ◼   ► There are two series that I recommend you start with.

01:34:56 ◼   ► One is called Gourmet Makes where Claire Saffitz attempts to remake some kind of treat.

01:35:02 ◼   ► So for example the most recent episode was Girl Scout Cookies.

01:35:07 ◼   ► So Claire will take Girl Scout Cookies and tries to make her own homemade versions that

01:35:12 ◼   ► are better in quality.

01:35:14 ◼   ► videos are hilarious and super relatable because Claire usually like breaks down halfway through

01:35:21 ◼   ► because she realizes she can't do it or something terrible happens and she's very like she's

01:35:26 ◼   ► hilarious but also negative it's like in a good way it's difficult to explain but she is amazing

01:35:33 ◼   ► and the videos are amazing and then also It's Alive by Brad Leone it started out it's just a

01:35:39 ◼   ► show about fermentation like fermenting stuff and now it's all kinds of things because I think they

01:35:44 ◼   ► kind of started to run out of just fermenting things. Brad is hilarious. Just don't necessarily

01:35:52 ◼   ► listen to what I'm saying about the recommendations. Just go and watch one of these videos, like

01:35:57 ◼   ► each of them. One gourmet makes, one it's alive. I guarantee you, you will not be disappointed.

01:36:03 ◼   ► And there's tons of this stuff. And then once you've, once you have like binged all of those

01:36:07 ◼   ► shows, there's loads of great content on the Bon Appetit YouTube channel. You don't have

01:36:12 ◼   ► to want to learn anything about cooking and you will enjoy these. It is not about that.

01:36:17 ◼   ► These are entertainment shows that have food in them. Like, super good. They are my recommendations.

01:36:24 ◼   ► All of those things will bring some happiness to your life.

01:36:27 ◼   ► Alright, so my picks. Well, I have a bunch. So, in terms of music, if you have been obsessed

01:36:34 ◼   ► with this new album by Lauv. That would be L-A-U-V. He's been around for a few years

01:36:43 ◼   ► now but it's not like this huge pop star, right? It's this very...

01:36:50 ◼   ► Never heard of him.

01:36:51 ◼   ► Okay, so Lauv makes this sort of like chill but also sometimes very catchy pop music.

01:37:02 ◼   ► It's got an incredible voice and I just recommend going listen to the latest album that he put

01:37:10 ◼   ► out a couple of weeks ago. It's on Apple Music, it's on every streaming service, it's super good.

01:37:15 ◼   ► The best description that I've heard is that it feels, it sounds like an album

01:37:22 ◼   ► in a good way from a boy band but it's made by a single person. Like it's got that richness,

01:37:29 ◼   ► that catchiness to every tune.

01:37:31 ◼   ► That is just, it's so well done.

01:37:34 ◼   ► And I've been listening with Sylvia on repeat

01:37:36 ◼   ► for the past couple of weeks.

01:37:37 ◼   ► It's really, really good.

01:37:39 ◼   ► - Added to my library.

01:37:40 ◼   ► I chose Trust Your Music recommendations.

01:37:43 ◼   ► - Yeah, you're gonna like it.

01:37:44 ◼   ► I think you're gonna like it.

01:37:44 ◼   ► In terms of like, speaking of music,

01:37:47 ◼   ► I got a couple of websites to recommend.

01:37:49 ◼   ► The first one is obvious.

01:37:50 ◼   ► I mean, Pitchfork, the, you know,

01:37:53 ◼   ► it's an institution in terms of music news and long for-

01:37:57 ◼   ► If you want to read reviews that are incredibly critical of every type of music. Oh boy, do

01:38:03 ◼   ► I have the...

01:38:04 ◼   ► Like, go catch up with the Pitchfork archive right now. They have a newsletter that they

01:38:11 ◼   ► send every day with some, like, they help you catch up with the archive because this

01:38:16 ◼   ► website goes back 20 years, right? Possibly even more. And Pitchfork is also a festival,

01:38:24 ◼   ► a whole thing. It's a whole deal. It's a big deal. Do you remember those? Festivals? That

01:38:31 ◼   ► was a nice time. Remember when people could get together? Yeah, I was thinking about this

01:38:36 ◼   ► the other day actually. I can remember when we could walk outside and meet people. But

01:38:41 ◼   ► yeah, they have an amazing archive back catalogue of deep critical music reviews, which I sometimes

01:38:52 ◼   ► disagree with, but even when I do it's good to read somebody's opinion written with such,

01:38:58 ◼   ► you know, quality and style. And the other website, which is my go-to music website made by

01:39:04 ◼   ► good friend Jason Tate, Chorus FM. So chorus used to be many, many years ago, if you're my age,

01:39:14 ◼   ► you may remember the absolute punk forums on the internet back in the, you know, when we were

01:39:21 ◼   ► all into punk rock and emo. I was one of those people. This website used to be called Absolute

01:39:27 ◼   ► Punk, now it's called Chorus FM. They do daily linked posts, like they talk about all kinds

01:39:38 ◼   ► of news in the music industry, they link to videos and concert dates, but it's also very

01:39:44 ◼   ► much a website where you can find reviews, like deep long-form music reviews, and Jason's

01:39:53 ◼   ► weekly recap of everything going on in his life, and the chorus website and the music

01:39:58 ◼   ► industry.

01:39:59 ◼   ► He's got this column called "Liner Notes", which comes out every Friday.

01:40:04 ◼   ► You can read it on the website.

01:40:06 ◼   ► I'm a supporter, they have a membership program, but you can also get it in your inbox as a

01:40:11 ◼   ► free newsletter every Friday.

01:40:13 ◼   ► So it's very well done, and it's a perfect mix of the personal angle, and it's also a

01:40:20 ◼   ► music newsletter.

01:40:21 ◼   ► So, you know, I've been subscribed for I don't know how many years at this point.

01:40:25 ◼   ► So Chorus FM, really good website, especially if you want to stay on top of new videos and

01:40:30 ◼   ► new singles and new albums.

01:40:32 ◼   ► TV.

01:40:34 ◼   ► Now's a great time to watch TV.

01:40:36 ◼   ► Now's a great time to watch something light and fun, and that can be a distraction.

01:40:42 ◼   ► And my two recommendations would be Schitt's Creek and Superstore.

01:40:48 ◼   ► Schitt's Creek is amazing.

01:40:50 ◼   ► Schitt's Creek is the best TV comedy in years.

01:40:56 ◼   ► Not just because it's fun and like the jokes crack me up and all that, but it's the love

01:41:05 ◼   ► and the characters.

01:41:07 ◼   ► The relationship portrayals in this show are some of the best I've seen in any television

01:41:11 ◼   ► show.

01:41:12 ◼   ► way that love and friendships are described in this show and are portrayed in this show

01:41:20 ◼   ► are just so well done.

01:41:22 ◼   ► The use of swearing in this show is one of the funniest uses of swearing that I've ever

01:41:28 ◼   ► come across. Like, whenever curse words are used, they are used the way that normal people

01:41:33 ◼   ► use curse words. Like, you'll get what I mean when you watch it, but they're always hilarious

01:41:39 ◼   ► because they're so unexpected because it's not where you usually see this stuff in TV

01:41:45 ◼   ► shows. And it's very seldom used, but it's used to great effect. But like, this show

01:41:50 ◼   ► is absolutely fantastic. It's wrapping up now. I believe there's only three episodes

01:41:56 ◼   ► left in the final season. We're just about to start the final season, I should say.

01:42:02 ◼   ► It's also very good. Sylvia and I are fully caught up and waiting for the final episodes.

01:42:07 ◼   ► It's a great time to catch up on the show if you haven't seen it.

01:42:10 ◼   ► It's really, really good and just heartwarming and fun.

01:42:14 ◼   ► It's a lovely TV show.

01:42:16 ◼   ► The other one, Superstore.

01:42:18 ◼   ► So initially, when you start watching Superstore, it's a sitcom that takes place inside a mall.

01:42:26 ◼   ► It's a workplace sitcom, right?

01:42:29 ◼   ► And you start watching it and you think, "Oh, this is just a copycat of The Office."

01:42:34 ◼   ► In fact, the creator of Superstore used to work on The Office before.

01:42:41 ◼   ► And it sort of starts like that, so you can see some of the parallels between certain

01:42:46 ◼   ► characters of like, "Oh, okay, so in Superstore this character is Dwight from The Office,

01:42:52 ◼   ► or this other character is Jim from The Office."

01:42:57 ◼   ► You can see that kind of structure, but as the show goes on, and this happens very quickly,

01:43:03 ◼   ► even in the first season, it takes on its own personality.

01:43:06 ◼   ► And also the way that this show deals with issues and topics like,

01:43:11 ◼   ► uh, you know, uh, sexuality or marriage or, you know,

01:43:16 ◼   ► divorce couples or immigration in the United States, even like,

01:43:21 ◼   ► there are some episodes where you will cry, uh, like for real,

01:43:26 ◼   ► it's a, it's a, I cried a lot at the office, so that makes sense.

01:43:30 ◼   ► But like, there are some episodes here on Superstore that are actually kind of heavy.

01:43:36 ◼   ► There's an article from Vox, if Myke or Steven can find it and put it in the show notes,

01:43:40 ◼   ► I believe its title was "How Superstore Got Super Good", which is basically everything

01:43:45 ◼   ► that I just said.

01:43:46 ◼   ► It starts out like an office copycat and then it becomes so much more really good, really

01:43:50 ◼   ► recommended.

01:43:51 ◼   ► And finally, in terms of video games, everything that Myke just said about Animal Crossing,

01:43:57 ◼   ► Also, I subscribe to that. It's a super chill and relaxing and lovely game.

01:44:04 ◼   ► If you're into something else, and if you're like me and you like competition, of course

01:44:08 ◼   ► I am under contractual obligation to mention Pokemon Sword, an online competitive play.

01:44:16 ◼   ► And if you're into that, you should subscribe to two different YouTube channels. One is

01:44:23 ◼   ► is WolfieVGC and the other is CybertronVGC. Wolfie Glick is the 2016 World Champion of

01:44:31 ◼   ► Pokemon and he does an excellent job in explaining what it means to do competitive Pokemon play

01:44:37 ◼   ► online with other people. He's also like this generally fun and lovely individual. He's

01:44:45 ◼   ► a fun guy, he's got a Twitch channel also going. I've learned a lot from Wolfie over

01:44:53 ◼   ► the past couple of months. And Cybertron, BGC, is made by Aaron Zeng. He's one of the

01:44:58 ◼   ► official commentators for official Pokémon competitions from the Pokémon Company. He

01:45:05 ◼   ► also has his own personal YouTube channel. He has this really, really excellent explanation

01:45:12 ◼   ► style in that when he plays online with other people it actually explains the strategy and

01:45:16 ◼   ► the thinking, because competitive Pokémon play can be a really deep game, it's like

01:45:23 ◼   ► a combination of chess and poker rolled into one. It requires a lot of knowledge and a

01:45:28 ◼   ► lot of patience to get going. So, if you're on lockdown, now's a great time to start learning

01:45:33 ◼   ► something new, and if you love Pokémon, boy do they have the content for you. So, yeah,

01:45:41 ◼   ► Pokémon and YouTube channels, it's a thing and you should look into it. Also some people

01:45:46 ◼   ► from the chat room want me to review anime. Unfortunately I haven't watched any anime

01:45:53 ◼   ► in years. I apologize. Now's the time to start! Not me, you know what? So I really, really

01:46:01 ◼   ► wanna get back into One Piece. Not in the sense that I'm now in multiple pieces, One

01:46:07 ◼   ► One Piece the manga and the anime? I know that phrasing.

01:46:14 ◼   ► Are you talking about swimsuits again?

01:46:17 ◼   ► Well, it's got a sea setting, so kind of play. No, One Piece. I used to read the manga years

01:46:27 ◼   ► ago. I stopped in 2007, 2008 maybe. I'm way behind on One Piece.

01:46:40 ◼   ► You got time. Like way behind. But also got plenty of time, especially if the lockdown

01:46:45 ◼   ► is gonna last until next month. So maybe now's a good time to watch One Piece again. So thank

01:46:50 ◼   ► you Chat Room. I got a couple. You said it's the perfect time to watch something light

01:46:54 ◼   ► and fun I would recommend it's time to catch up on Better Call Saul the prequel

01:46:59 ◼   ► to Breaking Bad. Never saw any of this show. Oh Breaking Bad? No, Breaking Bad

01:47:06 ◼   ► I watched all of it. Better Call Saul. It is extremely slow-moving in places and you just

01:47:12 ◼   ► have to understand that that it is an extremely slow television show but it is

01:47:17 ◼   ► fantastic they're in there next to last season now like currently I watched the

01:47:21 ◼   ► the most recent episode last night. Really fantastic exploration of that world that they

01:47:27 ◼   ► created for Breaking Bad. And with that, of course, El Camino, the Breaking Bad movie,

01:47:31 ◼   ► which happens after Breaking Bad, also very good. Not light, not funny, but fantastic television.

01:47:38 ◼   ► Allow me to bring things down for a minute.

01:47:40 ◼   ► Yeah, it's about a guy, Cooksmith. I would also point people, Federico and I and John Voorhees

01:47:45 ◼   ► have been enjoying this a lot, as has Jason Snell. Ben Gibbard, most famously of Death Cab for QD,

01:47:50 ◼   ► But also the postal service and a bunch of other projects has been doing daily

01:47:53 ◼   ► Live-streams on YouTube and he is playing songs

01:47:57 ◼   ► Suggested by the audience and he's done it now for a week. I think and I haven't missed a set. They're all really fantastic

01:48:04 ◼   ► So if you're into that sort of music, it is really nice to to get a little bit of that

01:48:10 ◼   ► He did a bunch of stuff for my favorite album plans the other night

01:48:13 ◼   ► Yesterday which was which is fun. So and I would say that you know, we've all your recommendations here

01:48:19 ◼   ► But I would encourage people not just to consume content

01:48:23 ◼   ► It is really nice to like chill out and take a break but like that guitar that's in your closet that you haven't played since

01:48:29 ◼   ► High school or the knitting that you said you were gonna learn or like we all have those things like now's a good time to

01:48:34 ◼   ► Learn something new we have the entire internet who can help us with

01:48:39 ◼   ► With learning things and so I'm looking for those things. I got a couple

01:48:45 ◼   ► things that I want to do and so I would encourage you to find something new to learn or something to make and

01:48:51 ◼   ► I think that could be a nice a nice way to spend some time as well. That's very true

01:48:56 ◼   ► Great advice. Yes. Yeah, I feel like I want to do something, but I don't know what it is

01:49:02 ◼   ► like I started zeroing in on a bunch of hobbies, but

01:49:05 ◼   ► Before all this happened, but they all required me to be outside of my house

01:49:10 ◼   ► Yeah, so I need to that's the trick need to spend some rethinking on that a little bit

01:49:15 ◼   ► But but you know it could be as easy as like drawing or like it's a mean something you could do with what you have

01:49:20 ◼   ► Of course that's that's a limiting factor right if you want to take a rock climbing class too bad

01:49:24 ◼   ► Yeah, but right now all of my time is taken up by Animal Crossing that I'm not when I'm not working so like yeah

01:49:31 ◼   ► I'll think about that later on I've got my hobby my hobby is tending to my island

01:49:36 ◼   ► Well, I think that's totally fine. I think it's totally fine. Like I'm oh, yeah

01:49:40 ◼   ► No, you're not. I know you know, I know you know, but like I encourage video games

01:49:45 ◼   ► It's like a great hobby to have right now. Yeah, because as well there are a lot of great video games out right now

01:49:51 ◼   ► If people are excited about Half-Life Alex, which is the VR Half-Life game

01:49:55 ◼   ► I won't be playing this because I scare too easily in VR

01:49:59 ◼   ► So I really want to play it but Half-Life will scare the bit Jesus out of me

01:50:04 ◼   ► But I really would like to play it. No criticism. Like this is just like a personal thing, right?

01:50:09 ◼   ► They should have made this game

01:50:11 ◼   ► Why not and like I know there are people that are loving it

01:50:14 ◼   ► but I've spoken to some friends that have played it and they confirm my suspicions that like it is jumpy and that means I don't

01:50:20 ◼   ► want it but

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01:50:45 ◼   ► Ke and Myke of course is the host of a bunch of shows here on relay FM

01:50:49 ◼   ► I just finished listening to the new episode of the test drivers where you guys tried out the essential phone from 2017 great episode

01:50:56 ◼   ► I really enjoyed it and thank you. I kind of want any such a phone. It's a great phone

01:51:01 ◼   ► You can get them super cheap on like eBay and stuff and I recommend getting one if you can I got mine for like

01:51:06 ◼   ► 150 pounds, I don't know who would collect antique electronics. That's that's funny

01:51:10 ◼   ► Yeah, you can also find Federico online as Vitici

01:51:14 ◼   ► v i t i c c i and the editor-in-chief of Mac stories dot net

01:51:19 ◼   ► Federico I saw you and John tweeting that the 10th anniversary of the shipping date of the iPad is coming up and think you'll have some

01:51:26 ◼   ► Big plans for that. So when is that next week next week next week next week

01:51:30 ◼   ► Yeah, but the end of the week it'll be April 3rd, so we plan the series of things starting

01:51:40 ◼   ► next week.

01:51:41 ◼   ► So it's gonna be pretty busy.

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01:52:19 ◼   ► Arigatou gozaimasu. Goodbye everybody wash your hands stay safe stay at home. Adios.

01:52:26 ◼   ► I don't know. Go wash your hands.