The Incomparable

261: Summer Superhero Spectacular: Round Three


00:00:03   the incomparable number 261 artists 2015 [TS]

00:00:11   welcome back everybody to be [TS]

00:00:13   uncomfortable we're back for the third [TS]

00:00:15   round of our a pointless [TS]

00:00:17   why are we doing this superhero [TS]

00:00:19   spectacular something-or-other [TS]

00:00:20   tournament we've we've reduced our [TS]

00:00:23   numbers 216 we're gonna go down to eight [TS]

00:00:25   superheroes in this round a few changes [TS]

00:00:29   have happened since the last two rounds [TS]

00:00:31   first off let me introduce our two new [TS]

00:00:33   judges Lisa Schmeisser has been promoted [TS]

00:00:36   from advocate to judge as so often [TS]

00:00:39   happens [TS]

00:00:40   hi Lisa I like to think I'm failing [TS]

00:00:41   upward hello yes you have worked and [TS]

00:00:43   succeeded and your reward is being a [TS]

00:00:46   judge in this ridiculous tournament [TS]

00:00:48   likewise chip sudderth not Tony chip [TS]

00:00:51   sudderth you were also a judge now [TS]

00:00:54   congratulations i'm sorry i am looking [TS]

00:00:57   forward to completely forgetting every [TS]

00:01:00   moment of advocacy i have ever had and [TS]

00:01:02   ruling a just and fair and completely [TS]

00:01:05   dispassionate forget that is why you [TS]

00:01:07   were elevated to the bench also joining [TS]

00:01:10   us we have our we have our excellent [TS]

00:01:12   advocates Monty Ashley hello your honor [TS]

00:01:16   I'm just a simple country comic book- [TS]

00:01:19   lawyer [TS]

00:01:21   yes reference acknowledged voices to [TS]

00:01:24   yawn [TS]

00:01:25   hello hello you are prepared [TS]

00:01:28   I briefs legal briefs I i I've got to be [TS]

00:01:32   honest with you i wish i wish that i [TS]

00:01:33   could say that I were and to echo my [TS]

00:01:35   colleague I i feel like the the only [TS]

00:01:38   thing to do is to is to call in a favor [TS]

00:01:41   and have a friend a simple country [TS]

00:01:42   lawyer take my place this evening if [TS]

00:01:46   that's permissible it's not permissible [TS]

00:01:47   limit [TS]

00:01:49   well I rule against you well then I'll [TS]

00:01:52   just I'll just have to muddle through [TS]

00:01:53   you'll have to do it you'll have to do [TS]

00:01:54   it yourself we want you feel most black [TS]

00:01:57   is also out there back for more [TS]

00:01:58   punishment I most I'm here to do my job [TS]

00:02:03   yep i'm not gonna take this serious but [TS]

00:02:06   I'm here to do the people's will all [TS]

00:02:10   right and I'm very I'm fantastically [TS]

00:02:15   excited about the new judge lineup [TS]

00:02:17   alright well done well is your way of [TS]

00:02:20   sucking up to us [TS]

00:02:21   no there's no real bad now because [TS]

00:02:23   passwords it's working i'm no it's not [TS]

00:02:25   it's really not my type split-decision [TS]

00:02:28   yeah we're back [TS]

00:02:29   Jason you're gonna have to say yes I [TS]

00:02:31   know something nice about the typewriter [TS]

00:02:33   why don't you Tony sindelar also one of [TS]

00:02:35   our advocates tonight I Tony hi jason i [TS]

00:02:37   have been practicing my legal Rasul and [TS]

00:02:40   my legal dazzles you know I'm ready also [TS]

00:02:42   i'm prepared to cheat to win [TS]

00:02:43   unlike last time i like i like the [TS]

00:02:45   wrestled as a reference how could it go [TS]

00:02:47   wrong [TS]

00:02:47   I have a good feeling is your some of [TS]

00:02:49   your some of your character something [TS]

00:02:50   you can do well tonight and dan moore [TS]

00:02:52   and hello dan welcome back chasing we [TS]

00:02:55   have to do to get bumped up to judge [TS]

00:02:56   because I'm about done with this uh well [TS]

00:02:59   let's see how you do tonight [TS]

00:03:01   let's say anything I I just I I sure [TS]

00:03:03   hope that you don't have lose any first [TS]

00:03:05   like top seeds that I think that [TS]

00:03:07   unlikely [TS]

00:03:08   yeah it's not gonna happen before we get [TS]

00:03:10   started I work for your previous [TS]

00:03:11   episodes where we picked two heroes [TS]

00:03:13   against each other eventually will solve [TS]

00:03:15   a problem nobody wanted solve which is [TS]

00:03:17   what we'll pick a hero that won the [TS]

00:03:19   tournament for some reason but to get [TS]

00:03:21   there we have different rules meet [TS]

00:03:23   around in this round we've asked the [TS]

00:03:24   advocates to go negative and while they [TS]

00:03:27   can talk about that what's great about [TS]

00:03:29   their hero they should at very least [TS]

00:03:32   frame it and in the context of what's [TS]

00:03:35   wrong with the other guy and if they [TS]

00:03:38   just want to go full-on negative and [TS]

00:03:39   just completely assault the character [TS]

00:03:40   that they oppose then they are [TS]

00:03:43   encouraged to do that it's a it's the [TS]

00:03:45   it's the negative campaigning edition of [TS]

00:03:48   the superhero tournament [TS]

00:03:50   let's get started with our first [TS]

00:03:51   showdown it is number one iron man who [TS]

00:03:56   will be represented by Dan and number 12 [TS]

00:03:58   the thing who will be represented by [TS]

00:03:59   Tony Tony can you give us your statement [TS]

00:04:03   about the thing and more importantly [TS]

00:04:04   about iron man so look the thing is a is [TS]

00:04:09   a is a classic workingman superhero a [TS]

00:04:13   man a super hero of the people [TS]

00:04:15   Tony Stark is a drunk chauvinist [TS]

00:04:20   womanizer [TS]

00:04:22   he's basically the Donald Trump of the [TS]

00:04:24   Avengers it literally takes a team of [TS]

00:04:27   people [TS]

00:04:28   like pepper and Captain America and [TS]

00:04:30   Rohde sometimes even happy Hogan to [TS]

00:04:32   basically keep him on track [TS]

00:04:34   otherwise he's just a walking disaster [TS]

00:04:36   area [TS]

00:04:37   he needs a support team he's basically [TS]

00:04:40   just you know sure he's done some things [TS]

00:04:43   in his life but you know he would he was [TS]

00:04:45   he born on third base you know sort of [TS]

00:04:48   Howard Stark and it's just you know [TS]

00:04:50   walking around claiming that he hit a [TS]

00:04:51   home run he's not the true hero that [TS]

00:04:55   that the thing is that was a really good [TS]

00:04:58   baseball metaphor I think he didn't get [TS]

00:04:59   it quite right but I a for effort [TS]

00:05:01   Tony I was i thought we were talking [TS]

00:05:02   about cricket yeah that's right well [TS]

00:05:04   third-base home run [TS]

00:05:06   you gotta go another base there i'm not [TS]

00:05:07   sure if Tony Stark flew to the other [TS]

00:05:08   base or not but that's that's fine that [TS]

00:05:10   was very good [TS]

00:05:11   dan you are defending iron man attacking [TS]

00:05:14   the thing go ahead and deed [TS]

00:05:15   well I far be it for me to disagree with [TS]

00:05:17   my esteemed colleague but i must point [TS]

00:05:19   out that the the thing do anything to [TS]

00:05:22   become a superhero now it was purely [TS]

00:05:24   accidental [TS]

00:05:25   Tony Stark is a self-made man the thing [TS]

00:05:27   is a rock she's just a big rock and well [TS]

00:05:30   you know the the implications of being a [TS]

00:05:33   blue-collar superhero are admirable i [TS]

00:05:36   think that you have to look back at the [TS]

00:05:38   fact and say that that the the thing Ben [TS]

00:05:41   Grimm he's just he doesn't mean he [TS]

00:05:44   doesn't really know what he's doing he's [TS]

00:05:46   just a guy who's been giving some powers [TS]

00:05:48   and doesn't really seem to have a plan [TS]

00:05:52   or any sort of angle for using them i [TS]

00:05:54   mean this is a guy the best slogan he [TS]

00:05:56   could come up with is it's clobbering [TS]

00:05:58   time [TS]

00:05:58   damn when time is it it's clobbering [TS]

00:06:00   time that's in our data that's not any [TS]

00:06:02   that's not in any clock us unlost just [TS]

00:06:05   say clobbering know any that's not gonna [TS]

00:06:07   stop clock is Right twice a day but no [TS]

00:06:10   dough clocks in clobbering time is this [TS]

00:06:12   meeting over yet [TS]

00:06:13   oh god my face in conclusion I would [TS]

00:06:17   like to say that how far can you trust [TS]

00:06:19   any superhero whose voice patterns are [TS]

00:06:21   based on Jimmy Durante he's alright time [TS]

00:06:24   to throw this to our judges Lisa you are [TS]

00:06:28   the first judge on this case what are [TS]

00:06:30   your thoughts [TS]

00:06:30   have we ever definitively established [TS]

00:06:32   the thing is in fact a pile of sentient [TS]

00:06:35   rocks and if so where is you where there [TS]

00:06:39   are are they made in the USA rocks are [TS]

00:06:41   they [TS]

00:06:41   foreign rocks are the space rocks born [TS]

00:06:43   in Brooklyn born in Brooklyn em so the [TS]

00:06:46   rocks remind Brooke is the thing lying [TS]

00:06:48   about his origins [TS]

00:06:49   I have no reason to believe that but the [TS]

00:06:52   thing is never lied about anything [TS]

00:06:53   he's as honest as the orange rock from [TS]

00:06:57   which he is bored to tears point what [TS]

00:07:00   again only I don't think that our [TS]

00:07:02   exposure i love you know what what what [TS]

00:07:05   are you a geologist super-g I was [TS]

00:07:09   baseball geologist I think everyone is [TS]

00:07:16   going somewhere this liquid that were [TS]

00:07:21   asking a question you don't want to yeah [TS]

00:07:23   especially about the thing I'm I i have [TS]

00:07:32   more questions for the for the plate tip [TS]

00:07:34   we're off to an early and early great [TS]

00:07:41   earlier ailment happen again triking [TS]

00:07:43   forgerock it'sit's click that Lisa would [TS]

00:07:48   you like that would you like to pass and [TS]

00:07:49   let your other judges under I would [TS]

00:07:51   please let well now I actually preferred [TS]

00:07:53   but I want to hear chip side of [TS]

00:07:54   increasing free issue it because I can [TS]

00:07:56   be swayed and persuasive argument [TS]

00:07:57   intriguing this is a river in new ground [TS]

00:08:00   here is what what what are your thoughts [TS]

00:08:03   Siri what is clobbering time [TS]

00:08:06   let me check on that ok i found this on [TS]

00:08:10   the web for clobbering time [TS]

00:08:12   serie did not give me any kind of [TS]

00:08:13   indication of a specific time that [TS]

00:08:15   clobbering time is I'm sorry i am i'm [TS]

00:08:19   sympathetic to tony's argument against [TS]

00:08:21   Iron Man as being a creature of [TS]

00:08:23   privilege but dan had the gall to attack [TS]

00:08:27   the thing for not being special for not [TS]

00:08:30   being smart for not having agency [TS]

00:08:33   ah it strikes me from hearing these [TS]

00:08:36   arguments that the thing is the every [TS]

00:08:40   not only the every person hero but the [TS]

00:08:43   hero for the rest of us who are not very [TS]

00:08:46   special i find for the thing please sir [TS]

00:08:49   I have to find for something that was [TS]

00:08:52   forged in Brooklyn [TS]

00:08:54   I find for the thing as well I well that [TS]

00:08:58   that that's its two to nothing two most [TS]

00:09:01   most generic of superhero names next [TS]

00:09:03   time we went over this stuff then you [TS]

00:09:05   already lost just gotta let it go now [TS]

00:09:06   oh no I know I can I can be bitter and [TS]

00:09:08   petty after all right it's much more fun [TS]

00:09:10   with so the thing moves on even though [TS]

00:09:12   he wasn't actually from Brooklyn and we [TS]

00:09:13   move on to our next pairing it's going [TS]

00:09:15   to be Monty but you are going to be [TS]

00:09:19   talking about spider-man and facing off [TS]

00:09:22   against number four seed kitty pryde who [TS]

00:09:24   is going to be defended by Moises s so [TS]

00:09:28   moist is your the lower seat here number [TS]

00:09:31   one number one versus number four I will [TS]

00:09:33   let you go first to tell us what's great [TS]

00:09:35   about gay pride and more important [TS]

00:09:36   what's not so great about the old [TS]

00:09:39   webhead well I to start off with and [TS]

00:09:42   jonah Jameson ready [TS]

00:09:44   is that which is wru is James and one of [TS]

00:09:47   your consultants because that would be [TS]

00:09:48   really smart of you to do your honor [TS]

00:09:49   your honor [TS]

00:09:52   I I have to be honest I i wish i wish [TS]

00:09:55   that i had more terrible things to say [TS]

00:09:57   about spider-man [TS]

00:09:58   I wish that I did I only have a few [TS]

00:10:01   dozen that that i was able to bring to [TS]

00:10:04   the table this evening and now whereas [TS]

00:10:06   with Kitty Pryde you have someone who [TS]

00:10:08   has repeatedly constantly put themselves [TS]

00:10:10   on the line but their life on the line [TS]

00:10:12   and sacrificed and sacrifice and [TS]

00:10:15   sacrificed time a variety of different [TS]

00:10:18   costumes a variety of different aliases [TS]

00:10:21   code names for the sake of the good of [TS]

00:10:25   life liberty and the pursuit of justice [TS]

00:10:28   that kind of stuff with spider-man [TS]

00:10:30   granted he is marvel signature well he [TS]

00:10:35   was Marvel signature hero until they [TS]

00:10:37   recently decided that's now Iron Man so [TS]

00:10:40   perhaps perhaps that demotion in and of [TS]

00:10:43   itself is the beginning of an indicator [TS]

00:10:45   as to where the problems the spider-man [TS]

00:10:47   begin for someone who's trademark slogan [TS]

00:10:50   is with great power comes great [TS]

00:10:52   responsibility to be so repeatedly [TS]

00:10:55   irresponsible selfish and just plain bad [TS]

00:11:00   luck not only to himself but the people [TS]

00:11:03   around him how howhow could [TS]

00:11:06   that individual be the greatest hero to [TS]

00:11:08   rise to the top of the illustrious ranks [TS]

00:11:11   that we've gone through so far how could [TS]

00:11:13   that individual often at the center of a [TS]

00:11:16   crossover not because he's particularly [TS]

00:11:18   able to stop a cosmic threat on his own [TS]

00:11:20   but because g-shocks he's a great guy [TS]

00:11:22   and he's the company mascot not do to [TS]

00:11:25   merit no no spider-man spider-man is the [TS]

00:11:28   fraternity legacy of Marvel superhero [TS]

00:11:31   characters and frankly we must break [TS]

00:11:34   with tradition we must say no never [TS]

00:11:37   again I may just be a simple country [TS]

00:11:40   comic book fan but to me spider-man is [TS]

00:11:43   way too much big-city way too much [TS]

00:11:46   family name as it were before actual [TS]

00:11:49   achievements [TS]

00:11:50   let's let's let's start listing off the [TS]

00:11:52   deaths death of captain Stacy death of [TS]

00:11:54   Gwen Stacy death of jean de wolf there's [TS]

00:11:56   not a single good-hearted person or [TS]

00:11:58   member of law enforcement they can go [TS]

00:11:59   anywhere near spider-man without their [TS]

00:12:02   life immediately being put at risk [TS]

00:12:04   rather than feeling like they have some [TS]

00:12:08   semblance of security or more than about [TS]

00:12:11   a 15 issue lifespan so your honors again [TS]

00:12:16   there are many great things that [TS]

00:12:17   spider-man is done but really crucially [TS]

00:12:21   it is the many irresponsible selfish and [TS]

00:12:25   outright lamebrain things that he's done [TS]

00:12:28   over the years that has me asking that [TS]

00:12:31   you must find in favor of Kitty Pryde [TS]

00:12:33   who would who would sail across the [TS]

00:12:35   galaxy invisible inside of a giant [TS]

00:12:37   bullet before she would think of herself [TS]

00:12:41   what is a true hero is up to you to [TS]

00:12:43   decide to decide my dear judges I rest [TS]

00:12:46   my case [TS]

00:12:46   right that was that had more endings in [TS]

00:12:48   the lord of the rings but thank you my [TS]

00:12:49   success we just like most spider-man [TS]

00:12:52   crossover events we move on to monsey [TS]

00:12:54   level a stick their his last name you [TS]

00:12:57   feeling our family legacy dash man yeah [TS]

00:13:00   a land is honorable tradition i think [TS]

00:13:02   you'll agree yes indeed I implore you [TS]

00:13:04   are a lot of all Spider Man huh [TS]

00:13:07   tell us tell us your story [TS]

00:13:10   naughty kitty pryde is an intangible [TS]

00:13:14   teenage girl with a pet dragon is [TS]

00:13:18   sometimes known as Ariel [TS]

00:13:19   sprite or Shadowcat depending on whether [TS]

00:13:21   the current writer can keep a straight [TS]

00:13:23   face about it according to wikipedia [TS]

00:13:25   she's soon going to add star lady to [TS]

00:13:28   that roster of random names nobody ever [TS]

00:13:30   calls her she mostly exists to look on [TS]

00:13:34   goggle eyed as truly heroic characters [TS]

00:13:36   do all the work when you can phase out [TS]

00:13:39   of physical reality you're never in any [TS]

00:13:41   physical danger her stories don't have [TS]

00:13:44   any snakes she's cute she's fun but [TS]

00:13:49   she's not heroic enough to make it past [TS]

00:13:51   this round if you want a teenager who [TS]

00:13:55   actually grapples with problems and put [TS]

00:13:58   himself on the line to save the world [TS]

00:14:00   over and over again [TS]

00:14:02   you gotta go spider-man I rest my case [TS]

00:14:06   well those were very powerful arguments [TS]

00:14:09   we're going to move to judge chip [TS]

00:14:10   judgeship what do you think star lady [TS]

00:14:14   yes our lady is joining the guardians of [TS]

00:14:17   the galaxy star lady it's like star-lord [TS]

00:14:21   but yeah you're never gonna believe this [TS]

00:14:23   they found ways and nowhere else [TS]

00:14:24   thursdays i wasn't aware there's a star [TS]

00:14:26   parentage is they're also going to start [TS]

00:14:28   early star count to start campus star by [TS]

00:14:30   him [TS]

00:14:31   well it gets confusing because there are [TS]

00:14:33   the space where the space nights you see [TS]

00:14:35   some other space Dame's with the space [TS]

00:14:39   nights possible go ahead and hold it [TS]

00:14:42   against kitty pryde that her only [TS]

00:14:43   choices are a bunch of dopey doot [TS]

00:14:46   I gotta get him thrown into the digital [TS]

00:14:48   chip let's say you um I advocate voices [TS]

00:14:54   were you aware you can you use you spoke [TS]

00:14:58   of spider-man as the fraternity legacy [TS]

00:15:00   of Marvel superhero characters i don't [TS]

00:15:03   suppose you are aware that this justice [TS]

00:15:05   was a member of the five new Alpha [TS]

00:15:07   Sinfonia music fraternity in college at [TS]

00:15:11   the Larry Sanders is slander this [TS]

00:15:14   slander against a hallowed institution [TS]

00:15:19   forces meet find in favor of spider-man [TS]

00:15:23   wow well again sometimes you need to do [TS]

00:15:27   your research about your judges i will [TS]

00:15:29   is fair and impartial decision it's [TS]

00:15:31   moved to Lisa [TS]

00:15:33   completely dispassionate to I enjoyed [TS]

00:15:36   the focus nastiness of advocate Monty's [TS]

00:15:39   of assault and so I find for spider-man [TS]

00:15:43   wow I think you should I think you [TS]

00:15:46   should award reward both brevity and [TS]

00:15:47   brutality [TS]

00:15:48   yep yeni pride undone by a male hero yet [TS]

00:15:52   again no save it she's got terrible [TS]

00:15:54   taste in men have to say this was a yes [TS]

00:15:56   dentistry this is a yeah this is a tough [TS]

00:16:00   one for me because I want both those [TS]

00:16:01   characters but spider-man moves on [TS]

00:16:03   unanimously our judges have are in sync [TS]

00:16:07   at the moment we're gonna move on with [TS]

00:16:09   impeccable legal reason absolutely i [TS]

00:16:12   have no these are not coming back on [TS]

00:16:14   review because there is no review but [TS]

00:16:16   still they're not coming back [TS]

00:16:17   we're going to imagine see British and [TS]

00:16:20   shorts life its legal decision mister [TS]

00:16:22   mister mister uh advocate moist rihanna [TS]

00:16:24   is going to advocate now for the Hulk [TS]

00:16:27   against Barry Allen the flash em as [TS]

00:16:32   advocated by moze moze you get to go [TS]

00:16:35   first [TS]

00:16:36   well my talking about the Hulk [TS]

00:16:39   I mean the Hulk I mean basically look [TS]

00:16:43   he's green peas lean well not so lean [TS]

00:16:47   he's actually kind of a big buff [TS]

00:16:48   whatever he is gamma radiation filled [TS]

00:16:52   human being but at the end of the day [TS]

00:16:54   what is he really [TS]

00:16:55   dr. Jekyll mr. Hyde are all our [TS]

00:16:59   superheroes [TS]

00:17:01   basically balancing between those two [TS]

00:17:04   things so what makes the whole so [TS]

00:17:06   special [TS]

00:17:07   I'll tell you Andy anak oh he's not [TS]

00:17:12   he's a wanton garbage filled you know [TS]

00:17:17   basically completely invulnerable [TS]

00:17:22   ah bastion of destruction [TS]

00:17:26   who cares it's dumb [TS]

00:17:30   he had Bruce Banner you can talk so much [TS]

00:17:33   about science and and how cool this guy [TS]

00:17:37   is how smart he is at the end of the day [TS]

00:17:40   who cares because all everybody looks as [TS]

00:17:43   the whole all he does is come on thru [TS]

00:17:46   break some doors break some buildings [TS]

00:17:50   break this that and the other [TS]

00:17:53   is that really what we want from a hero [TS]

00:17:55   in fact i would tell you that he's not a [TS]

00:17:58   hero planet hulk who cares it's not this [TS]

00:18:01   world i mean at the end of the day what [TS]

00:18:05   he does here destroys humanity at the [TS]

00:18:09   end of the day [TS]

00:18:10   stumm but what does he contribute [TS]

00:18:14   ok at the end of the day he's completely [TS]

00:18:16   invulnerable [TS]

00:18:18   what [TS]

00:18:20   that's crazy when you look at the wide [TS]

00:18:22   array of heroes out there and the Hulk [TS]

00:18:25   is the top end of the chain [TS]

00:18:28   he can't be beat puny God garbage mark [TS]

00:18:33   ruffalo garbage [TS]

00:18:35   oh wow it's all over are you serious are [TS]

00:18:40   you serious [TS]

00:18:41   judges well please listen [TS]

00:18:46   is the whole really a hero just because [TS]

00:18:49   you so invulnerable [TS]

00:18:52   I mean really purple shorts and [TS]

00:18:55   vulnerable [TS]

00:18:56   I rest my case I had that the this that [TS]

00:19:01   is a fascinatingly dismissive argument [TS]

00:19:03   which I kind of enjoy voice it's your [TS]

00:19:06   turn to reply with in favor of the whole [TS]

00:19:10   game against the flash [TS]

00:19:12   I hold no ill will toward the flash I [TS]

00:19:14   have to be honest I can't say that I [TS]

00:19:16   hate the flash I cannot stand here [TS]

00:19:17   before you judges and say the flash is [TS]

00:19:20   terrible the flashes a pile of garbage [TS]

00:19:22   and absolutely in essential to comic [TS]

00:19:26   book lord I can't do that i just i can't [TS]

00:19:28   do that because I have too much respect [TS]

00:19:30   for these legendary characters I i wish [TS]

00:19:32   my colleague on the other side of the [TS]

00:19:34   courtroom were so respectful but alas it [TS]

00:19:37   were not to be the hulk single-handedly [TS]

00:19:41   was responsible to me and to many for [TS]

00:19:44   turning around the notion of the Marvel [TS]

00:19:45   crossover which of course got undone [TS]

00:19:47   relatively quickly thereafter with with [TS]

00:19:50   the planet hulk leading into world war [TS]

00:19:51   hulk making the Marvel Universe world of [TS]

00:19:54   crossing over their characters actually [TS]

00:19:55   interesting for once and not just a [TS]

00:19:57   rehash of house event for the thousandth [TS]

00:19:59   time one of the things that is most [TS]

00:20:02   beloved about the Hulk is exactly what [TS]

00:20:04   my opponent here tells you is so [TS]

00:20:06   terrible about him which is his duality [TS]

00:20:09   of self duality of purpose his confusion [TS]

00:20:11   as to what direction his life is going [TS]

00:20:13   in fact he carries a very heavy load so [TS]

00:20:16   I I again i'm so i'm so sad that that I [TS]

00:20:21   am across the aisle from an opponent who [TS]

00:20:24   seems to devalue comic book characters [TS]

00:20:26   so fundamentally especially their [TS]

00:20:29   portrayal as done by wonderful actors [TS]

00:20:31   like Mark Ruffalo now turning to the [TS]

00:20:34   flash if we're really looking at [TS]

00:20:37   fundamentally the person to be the top [TS]

00:20:41   of the superhero pile do we want that to [TS]

00:20:44   be a hero who's very super power can [TS]

00:20:46   result in rewriting and unwinding and [TS]

00:20:49   erasing comic-book continuity and [TS]

00:20:52   resulting in a version of various [TS]

00:20:54   characters across an entire multiverse [TS]

00:20:55   that nobody really likes be honest [TS]

00:20:59   was the new 52 just the bee's knees for [TS]

00:21:02   everybody or it wasn't just me who found [TS]

00:21:05   Batman and Green Lantern were two of a [TS]

00:21:07   few books that was really still worth [TS]

00:21:09   reading after the flash flash pointed [TS]

00:21:12   all over DC how can we allow that to be [TS]

00:21:17   the title signature hero of this [TS]

00:21:20   competition how can we allow such a [TS]

00:21:21   thing and perhaps a minor note but just [TS]

00:21:25   speaking to greater world progress peace [TS]

00:21:28   happiness around the globe with how much [TS]

00:21:32   Barry Allen has to eat did his Malibu [TS]

00:21:35   and metabolic rate judges i would say [TS]

00:21:37   that we must eliminate him from this [TS]

00:21:39   competition because if he were the last [TS]

00:21:41   hero left on earth he would eat the [TS]

00:21:43   earth out of sustainable vegetation meet [TS]

00:21:47   a consumable food in and of itself the [TS]

00:21:50   flash if we take both of these [TS]

00:21:52   characters to the end of time the flash [TS]

00:21:54   is the one that is going to either [TS]

00:21:56   destroy the universe as it is or eat it [TS]

00:21:59   I rest my case alright interesting [TS]

00:22:03   arguments there got a little ecological [TS]

00:22:05   at the end i I'm find that fascinating [TS]

00:22:08   let's move to Lisa what are your [TS]

00:22:10   thoughts about this case so what I'm [TS]

00:22:12   hearing is that the whole could destroy [TS]

00:22:15   the planet simply by having a temper [TS]

00:22:16   tantrum whereas the flash could destroy [TS]

00:22:18   the planet simply by having too many [TS]

00:22:20   tacos this is this correct both [TS]

00:22:21   advocates correct i would say that i [TS]

00:22:24   would say that the flash is capable of [TS]

00:22:25   of depleting the planet of consumable [TS]

00:22:28   resources could he then run back in time [TS]

00:22:30   and change things so that there are more [TS]

00:22:32   tacos for him [TS]

00:22:33   do we really have to remove that [TS]

00:22:35   narrative your Your Honor I call paradox [TS]

00:22:38   taco paradoxian my travelpod open source [TS]

00:22:43   is paradoxical time so we have the app [TS]

00:22:45   so on the one hand as a judge's is a [TS]

00:22:47   difficult decision to render because on [TS]

00:22:49   the one hand we do have a hero who is [TS]

00:22:51   capable of altering the very fabric of [TS]

00:22:53   space and time for narrative convenience [TS]

00:22:55   on the other hand we have a superhero [TS]

00:22:57   who is so potent and so powerful that [TS]

00:22:59   several of his other fellow powerful [TS]

00:23:02   superheroes got together a super-secret [TS]

00:23:04   brainy cabal sent into another planet [TS]

00:23:06   which he then conquered [TS]

00:23:09   rules like a god and then came back to [TS]

00:23:11   earth of the grudge [TS]

00:23:13   these two are fairly evenly matched and [TS]

00:23:17   a less impartial judge would immediately [TS]

00:23:19   vote for the flash because she did not [TS]

00:23:21   appreciate the ding against Mark Ruffalo [TS]

00:23:23   who has single-handedly redeemed the [TS]

00:23:25   Hulk in Marvel Cinematic Universe i [TS]

00:23:27   would argue however in this case i'm [TS]

00:23:30   finding for the most powerful and potent [TS]

00:23:32   superhero and I find for the one that [TS]

00:23:33   can bend the fabric of space and time I [TS]

00:23:34   find the flash like you're on all right [TS]

00:23:37   chip what say you I appreciated the [TS]

00:23:41   interpretive jiggery-pokery of Moses [TS]

00:23:44   arguments [TS]

00:23:44   however when Moises mentioned that the [TS]

00:23:49   flash flash pointed all over DC which [TS]

00:23:52   sounded faintly scatological he brought [TS]

00:23:55   to mind how much I hated the new 52 and [TS]

00:24:02   it really is the flashes fault i find [TS]

00:24:04   for the whole oh is this is a split [TS]

00:24:06   decision and that means that leaves it [TS]

00:24:09   for me your humble bailiff I don't think [TS]

00:24:12   that's how it works and host in my [TS]

00:24:14   memories like court to that's right to [TS]

00:24:18   break the tie I as as the arguments are [TS]

00:24:20   going on I i SAT and thought a lot about [TS]

00:24:21   what would happen if this came up and it [TS]

00:24:23   was a tie [TS]

00:24:25   I'm a Marvel marvel kidd [TS]

00:24:27   through-and-through always look Marshall [TS]

00:24:29   I love the Hulk love the bill bixby Hulk [TS]

00:24:32   loved uh loved the break pack planet [TS]

00:24:36   hulk so the fact that despite all of [TS]

00:24:40   that I have great feelings toward Barry [TS]

00:24:42   Allen and the flash and feel that he is [TS]

00:24:44   in fact the DC Comics character that I [TS]

00:24:47   kind of like the most [TS]

00:24:48   I real for the flash the flash moves on [TS]

00:24:51   yeah that's how that feels exciting to [TS]

00:24:54   look and rerouted my remote [TS]

00:24:57   easy there Joe Biden this result can be [TS]

00:25:02   rewritten by the reality in mere minutes [TS]

00:25:05   a little flash does need to reread it [TS]

00:25:06   because he won yeah he's had perhaps you [TS]

00:25:08   won't get lost when previous we never [TS]

00:25:11   said if you would like to be on reviews [TS]

00:25:13   and I'll i am i holding these tacos [TS]

00:25:15   that's what let's move on [TS]

00:25:18   here is our matchup between number two [TS]

00:25:21   seed Wolverine as argued by Morris s and [TS]

00:25:26   number six [TS]

00:25:28   Rorschach from watchmen as argued by [TS]

00:25:31   moze moze you are the underdog so why [TS]

00:25:36   don't you go first [TS]

00:25:37   this happens to be probably the single [TS]

00:25:40   most worst character in the comic book [TS]

00:25:43   universe [TS]

00:25:44   why you ask well Deadpool is gone [TS]

00:25:48   already so well the only event [TS]

00:25:51   be careful be careful what we wish for [TS]

00:25:53   because we wished for a amazingly [TS]

00:25:58   ridiculously haired and by the way his [TS]

00:26:02   hair matches his costume which is stupid [TS]

00:26:06   and he has a unbreakable [TS]

00:26:11   Oh bone structure that's kind of let's [TS]

00:26:16   just say ridiculous now at the end of [TS]

00:26:19   the day lets his strategy run-and-gun [TS]

00:26:23   and / and kill and sniffed and sniffed [TS]

00:26:27   and snikt but recently full-frame lost [TS]

00:26:31   his healing factor so what does he [TS]

00:26:34   really have nothing [TS]

00:26:36   unbreakable bones I mean look the the [TS]

00:26:39   Hulk that guy that other that green guy [TS]

00:26:42   ripped him apart [TS]

00:26:45   completely in half for two-and-a-half [TS]

00:26:47   years is that really a hero that gets [TS]

00:26:50   ripped in half and just live to tell [TS]

00:26:54   about it [TS]

00:26:54   in fact i will go so far as to say um I [TS]

00:26:58   know I'm on treading on thin ground here [TS]

00:27:01   but [TS]

00:27:03   a guy named Spock gave him the Klingon [TS]

00:27:06   death grip whatever that's called you [TS]

00:27:09   know what's called the you know that [TS]

00:27:10   love Vulcan death grip and knocked him [TS]

00:27:13   out so happily invulnerable is this guy [TS]

00:27:16   and I will go so far as the same look [TS]

00:27:20   popsicle oh yeah popsicle the brand they [TS]

00:27:25   made x-men popsicles with in the shape [TS]

00:27:28   of Wolverines haircut that again [TS]

00:27:31   conforms to his um yeah his his costume [TS]

00:27:35   which is stupid [TS]

00:27:39   really it's stupid and we couldn't even [TS]

00:27:42   get it straight that this guy had to [TS]

00:27:44   have english put on his little of what [TS]

00:27:48   are those claws and then they turn them [TS]

00:27:50   into bone because who wait a minute it's [TS]

00:27:53   got to be genetic it's gotta be mutation [TS]

00:27:55   it can't be it can't be something else [TS]

00:27:59   look this guy has been literally put [TS]

00:28:02   everywhere and anywhere as the character [TS]

00:28:06   who's so invulnerable that we all should [TS]

00:28:10   care about his dumb and you know he is [TS]

00:28:12   and when you really look at him is [TS]

00:28:16   I rest my case alright the popsicle [TS]

00:28:20   defense comes out at last voice s please [TS]

00:28:24   tell us why were in this great and [TS]

00:28:26   Rorschach is not well I your honors I [TS]

00:28:29   have to say the the the charges leveled [TS]

00:28:33   against Wolverine are really the [TS]

00:28:36   foundation of a fantastic thesis on why [TS]

00:28:39   he is one of the greatest comic book [TS]

00:28:41   heroes of all time and frankly there's [TS]

00:28:45   much more depth and levels of intrigue [TS]

00:28:48   to be had in stories told about this [TS]

00:28:50   character than the Rorschach what other [TS]

00:28:52   stories are you going to tell with war [TS]

00:28:53   Shaq Shaq is great in watchmen [TS]

00:28:56   watchman's a great piece of fiction i [TS]

00:28:59   will I I cannot argue that I cannot [TS]

00:29:01   argue that I can't say that's a bad [TS]

00:29:02   thing [TS]

00:29:04   what doesn't make any sense to me is how [TS]

00:29:05   he fits into any of the of the broader [TS]

00:29:09   mythic landscape of superhero narrative [TS]

00:29:12   since there was never any sort of a [TS]

00:29:13   prequel or sequel to watchman that i [TS]

00:29:16   know of at least I don't know how [TS]

00:29:18   Rorschach fits in anything else and not [TS]

00:29:22   to to to throw politics into this but [TS]

00:29:25   Rorschach is also the only character on [TS]

00:29:28   this entire roster that's openly [TS]

00:29:30   endorsed by a political candidate Ted [TS]

00:29:32   Cruz and regardless of what you think of [TS]

00:29:34   my fellow Texan and fellow Cuban [TS]

00:29:36   American and fellow not much else [TS]

00:29:39   Ted Cruz the endorsement of political [TS]

00:29:41   figure immediately makes me suspect of [TS]

00:29:43   any comic book character [TS]

00:29:45   well what are we going to do next pay [TS]

00:29:47   attention to who you know Lex Luthor [TS]

00:29:48   endorses forehead of the Justice League [TS]

00:29:51   i I just I don't see how considering the [TS]

00:29:54   the litany of better qualities that [TS]

00:29:56   Wolverine has going for him at an [TS]

00:29:59   exponential rate that anyone could [TS]

00:30:02   possibly find for Shaq for me it's it's [TS]

00:30:06   the most lopsided battle that there is [TS]

00:30:08   and and frankly not for effect but [TS]

00:30:10   simply because i'm in all I am I am [TS]

00:30:13   absolutely abject Lee in all of how much [TS]

00:30:16   better job than i did that my opponent [TS]

00:30:18   did in in defending Wolverine I i would [TS]

00:30:20   have to say that you have to listen to [TS]

00:30:22   my opponent and find for Wolverine [TS]

00:30:23   Yorkers fascinating I'll let's go to [TS]

00:30:26   chip with his verdict intrigue arguments [TS]

00:30:28   on both sides I [TS]

00:30:30   iddi I detect a startled assets subtle [TS]

00:30:34   commonality of approach with advocate [TS]

00:30:36   Mo's are whose exponents are [TS]

00:30:39   ridiculously stupid it's dumb i think [TS]

00:30:44   was a strong argument i'd like to see [TS]

00:30:46   the site legal citations for it's dumb [TS]

00:30:48   but it did sound good [TS]

00:30:49   I i can't i can't endorse Wolverines [TS]

00:30:53   Erica in any way but popsicles popsicles [TS]

00:30:58   are kind of neat actually they're tasty [TS]

00:31:00   they're there they're cheap they're [TS]

00:31:02   there they're flavorful [TS]

00:31:05   I like to just like wolverine cheap and [TS]

00:31:07   flavorful and endorsement by Ted Cruz I [TS]

00:31:10   don't want to get political but that's [TS]

00:31:12   that's that that's pure applesauce arm i [TS]

00:31:17   find for Wolverine interesting that the [TS]

00:31:20   vote for the big sideburns let's move on [TS]

00:31:22   to Lisa I really don't think we should [TS]

00:31:24   spend our time focusing on how these [TS]

00:31:25   characters look because that's an [TS]

00:31:29   enormous your owner is normative yeah [TS]

00:31:32   it's just a limiting and we've all had [TS]

00:31:36   bad hair days it's it's not the fault of [TS]

00:31:38   wolverine that he's had a bad hair life [TS]

00:31:40   he said long and eventful life filled [TS]

00:31:42   with stupid episodes like ninja [TS]

00:31:44   badassery and fighting in myth admiss [TS]

00:31:48   terious wars and so on and so forth [TS]

00:31:50   however bacon presumably Korshak really [TS]

00:31:53   smells bad by the way so no the one [TS]

00:31:56   argument that his sweetie however is a [TS]

00:32:00   one that was pointed out which is that [TS]

00:32:04   war shocks value as a character rest [TS]

00:32:08   precisely in his limited deployment you [TS]

00:32:11   really can't spin off the adventures of [TS]

00:32:13   Rorschach requires a japanese wife and [TS]

00:32:16   teaches kitty pryde how to be a samurai [TS]

00:32:18   Rorschach is never going to background a [TS]

00:32:20   shopping mall with Jubilee and be her [TS]

00:32:24   sidekick on her many adventures were [TS]

00:32:26   shocked is a genuine loner so that [TS]

00:32:29   sharply reduces the odds that he'll join [TS]

00:32:31   eight different teams in the Marvel [TS]

00:32:32   Universe and insist on all of them that [TS]

00:32:35   he's a loner Rorschach is never going to [TS]

00:32:38   do the cannibal special [TS]

00:32:41   the thing that makes him such a great [TS]

00:32:44   character makes him a limited hero [TS]

00:32:46   because he exists in one roll only and [TS]

00:32:49   that is at and that is to be [TS]

00:32:50   uncompromising principal and as if we [TS]

00:32:53   see at the end of the watchman [TS]

00:32:54   uncompromising principles of course [TS]

00:32:55   destroyed i find for Wolverine for pure [TS]

00:32:59   narrative entertainment [TS]

00:33:00   alright Wolverine advances to the next [TS]

00:33:04   round [TS]

00:33:04   good arguments all right we're going to [TS]

00:33:06   move onto a marquee matchup number one [TS]

00:33:08   seed Superman has argued by Monty [TS]

00:33:12   against number five seed Doctor Strange [TS]

00:33:16   shoes advocate is dan dan you're the [TS]

00:33:19   lower seed please tell us why is my [TS]

00:33:22   doctor Strange's good friend Superman is [TS]

00:33:25   bad respected judges are i would like to [TS]

00:33:28   enter the following facts into evidence [TS]

00:33:30   Superman not a doctor as far as i can [TS]

00:33:34   tell you know postgraduate degrees of [TS]

00:33:36   any kind that's just kind of a big lunk [TS]

00:33:40   head who seems to fly around and [TS]

00:33:43   strangely it's really a saver America [TS]

00:33:48   like you Justina he's got that whole [TS]

00:33:49   American thing going on which i guess is [TS]

00:33:52   great and all but at the same time hehe [TS]

00:33:55   comes off a little too potentially you [TS]

00:33:58   know right wing / fascist for me so I'm [TS]

00:34:02   a little concerned about that item [TS]

00:34:04   evidence number two Superman does not [TS]

00:34:07   have an awesome mustache and I think not [TS]

00:34:11   undervalue that that lack of of awesome [TS]

00:34:14   facial hair is really just going to hold [TS]

00:34:17   them back i mean there's no place to go [TS]

00:34:19   this is a guy who could desperately use [TS]

00:34:20   some facial hair because he needs to [TS]

00:34:23   maintain a secret identity and instead [TS]

00:34:26   he just puts on a pair of glasses so [TS]

00:34:28   clearly not the sharpest tool in the [TS]

00:34:32   shed to begin with the item number three [TS]

00:34:36   superman also not a sorcerer i think [TS]

00:34:40   that is worth pointing out that you know [TS]

00:34:42   there is there are those who have [TS]

00:34:44   mastered the magical arts and those who [TS]

00:34:46   are just kind of big strong guys you fly [TS]

00:34:48   around a lot [TS]

00:34:49   and my final piece of evidence i would [TS]

00:34:51   like to point out that he is also [TS]

00:34:53   allergic to rocks and that is just like [TS]

00:34:57   the worst weakness ever I mean clearly [TS]

00:34:59   if the thing went up against Superman [TS]

00:35:01   then Scooby hollow-point so in the end [TS]

00:35:05   I'm and strong but no all right Monty [TS]

00:35:09   it's time for your report [TS]

00:35:13   Doctor Strange is not a superhero [TS]

00:35:17   he's a magician he should restrict [TS]

00:35:20   himself to guessing what coward you're [TS]

00:35:21   thinking of now I realize that techno [TS]

00:35:25   he's a wizard or sorcerer not a common [TS]

00:35:28   street or stage magician but what does [TS]

00:35:32   that mean that means he should be [TS]

00:35:33   hanging out in the Shire not in comic [TS]

00:35:37   books also he's going to be played by [TS]

00:35:40   Benedict Cumberbatch in the upcoming [TS]

00:35:42   movie which means you're already sick of [TS]

00:35:44   it before it even comes out and finally [TS]

00:35:48   know how quickly finally comes name [TS]

00:35:57   Doctor Strange is the laziest comic-book [TS]

00:36:00   moniker since mr. fantastic I rest my [TS]

00:36:02   case [TS]

00:36:03   oh nice a lot love a short but sweet [TS]

00:36:07   arguments there [TS]

00:36:09   let's go to Lisa for her thoughts on the [TS]

00:36:11   verdict I i think one of the unfortunate [TS]

00:36:13   side effects of having a lengthy public [TS]

00:36:15   record is that my disdain for mr. [TS]

00:36:17   fantastic is well known and I worry that [TS]

00:36:20   it is a an attempt to bias me doing the [TS]

00:36:25   doctor strange to be fair is his name [TS]

00:36:27   his name is Stephen strange we have [TS]

00:36:29   Richards name is not fantastic this is [TS]

00:36:32   also true [TS]

00:36:32   and here are no medical doctor and I [TS]

00:36:34   believe so i think it was changed from [TS]

00:36:36   strange kowski was originally published [TS]

00:36:38   he was going to be this is true he was [TS]

00:36:40   going to be mr. straight until Stanley [TS]

00:36:42   decided that was too much like mr. [TS]

00:36:43   fantastic [TS]

00:36:45   so rather than come up with a better [TS]

00:36:47   kind of day we just had been making in [TS]

00:36:49   spent six years in strange magical [TS]

00:36:52   medical school to be called mr. street [TS]

00:36:54   actually I believe the doctor Strange's [TS]

00:36:56   origins are such where he was a [TS]

00:36:58   hoity-toity surgeon who have [TS]

00:37:00   time for anything until he was in a car [TS]

00:37:02   accident lost the ability to operate [TS]

00:37:03   right and then was desperate to regain [TS]

00:37:05   it and so he embarked on mystical path [TS]

00:37:07   and kinda got distracted by that was [TS]

00:37:09   already pre love kind of things it was [TS]

00:37:12   it was and the problem is in a trail of [TS]

00:37:15   Dormammu yes and the promises now that [TS]

00:37:18   you put it that way I'm almost empty [TS]

00:37:20   I'm almost tempted to vote for him just [TS]

00:37:21   because a superhero with eat pray love [TS]

00:37:23   is an origin story is a refreshing [TS]

00:37:25   addition to almost any any any Hall of [TS]

00:37:28   my T's I think that's iron fist actually [TS]

00:37:31   i also have to give special attention to [TS]

00:37:37   the antiserum and forces because they're [TS]

00:37:38   five arguments were both compelling and [TS]

00:37:42   factually true again my love of Superman [TS]

00:37:46   is well-documented I think he represents [TS]

00:37:48   a lot of the best of both the DC [TS]

00:37:50   Universe and and the best of what we can [TS]

00:37:52   strive for us human beings [TS]

00:37:54   however the case against him was [TS]

00:37:56   skillfully constructed and I desperately [TS]

00:37:58   want to see eat pray love make it to the [TS]

00:37:59   finals so I'm finding for dr. strange [TS]

00:38:01   child big big moment here potentially [TS]

00:38:05   chip what are your thoughts Superman and [TS]

00:38:07   dr. strange well you would think the [TS]

00:38:10   answer would be obvious [TS]

00:38:11   thank you your honor dan has dan has put [TS]

00:38:15   together a skillful argument i concur [TS]

00:38:18   with uh with judge miser on that point [TS]

00:38:21   are even on top of that Superman both [TS]

00:38:26   pre-crisis and after the crisis was [TS]

00:38:28   frequently written as vulnerable to [TS]

00:38:31   magic [TS]

00:38:32   so you think that dr. strange would [TS]

00:38:36   actually just snap his fingers and [TS]

00:38:37   Superman would vanish in a puff of logic [TS]

00:38:40   but Monty reminded us that dr. strange [TS]

00:38:44   will be played by Benedict Cumberbatch [TS]

00:38:46   who my wife thinks is hot i find for [TS]

00:38:50   Superman that throws it to me again [TS]

00:38:55   mhm i have no great love for dr. strange [TS]

00:38:58   or more magician superheroes in general [TS]

00:39:01   but I i am going to cite an argument [TS]

00:39:05   made earlier bye-bye advocate mo is in a [TS]

00:39:08   different context here which is Superman [TS]

00:39:12   he's dumb he's [TS]

00:39:13   boring i rule for Doctor Strange slow [TS]

00:39:18   Your Honor I think you did a great thing [TS]

00:39:20   for all mankind I already said I like [TS]

00:39:23   the flash better than other DC heroes [TS]

00:39:25   this this is a night a night full of [TS]

00:39:27   upset mmm yes it's very exciting [TS]

00:39:31   compaq yes and Monty you might be quite [TS]

00:39:36   right to point out that was the you [TS]

00:39:38   complete you play the dumb name card how [TS]

00:39:40   are you doing for Superman [TS]

00:39:44   hey they started with a draft of strong [TS]

00:39:48   guy and had to work their way on here [TS]

00:39:50   you know attention and strong guy was an [TS]

00:39:52   improvement on car lifter amazing [TS]

00:39:54   amazing things are happening again which [TS]

00:39:57   is just a guy named Jack Tony yeah lot [TS]

00:39:59   of lifting a lot of writing work there [TS]

00:40:01   so all right let's move on to a matchup [TS]

00:40:04   it is number two seed captain america [TS]

00:40:06   who is going to be champion by Monty vs. [TS]

00:40:08   a number 11 seed beta ray bill who's [TS]

00:40:11   going to be championed by moes yeah [TS]

00:40:13   that's right it's worth or I hope chip [TS]

00:40:15   can Kenda view this without recusing [TS]

00:40:19   himself Mo's you get to argue for a big [TS]

00:40:21   underdog beta ray bill and against [TS]

00:40:23   Captain America [TS]

00:40:24   why do you hate America go ahead well I [TS]

00:40:27   mean you kind of set things American I [TS]

00:40:30   mean it's done lightly it's true for me [TS]

00:40:32   but I'm willing to come out of that [TS]

00:40:34   because you don't if funny thing you [TS]

00:40:38   mentioned i just recently watched age of [TS]

00:40:40   Ultron and there was a man named vision [TS]

00:40:45   who picked up the Thor's hammer which [TS]

00:40:48   seemed to be pretty a pretty big deal [TS]

00:40:50   and the whole thing there's only one of [TS]

00:40:54   the person in fact vision is never [TS]

00:40:56   actually done that that was movie [TS]

00:40:58   stuffed will call that there's only one [TS]

00:41:01   other person that as a person alien a [TS]

00:41:05   beta ray bill who who was i quote worthy [TS]

00:41:09   to hold [TS]

00:41:12   Thor's hammer [TS]

00:41:14   and odin was the one who kind of team [TS]

00:41:17   that now we're dealing with God's [TS]

00:41:20   mysteries and things that nature at its [TS]

00:41:23   funny [TS]

00:41:24   there was another uh situation in the [TS]

00:41:28   age of Ultron you know everybody had [TS]

00:41:31   sins or things that they were afraid of [TS]

00:41:34   but this guy captain america [TS]

00:41:38   it's very interesting to me because he [TS]

00:41:41   didn't have in fact he only wanted to do [TS]

00:41:43   is dance with his girl I find that very [TS]

00:41:47   interesting that a guy a mortal man if [TS]

00:41:50   you will and without kind of throwing [TS]

00:41:54   too much religion into the whole mix [TS]

00:41:56   seems to have no sins [TS]

00:41:59   there was only one guy that I've I'm [TS]

00:42:01   aware of that never had that but he was [TS]

00:42:05   rings can I crawled my apologize i think [TS]

00:42:11   that's a really are Jesus and Reed [TS]

00:42:13   Richards mixed up again I'm sorry that's [TS]

00:42:15   right that's what you're going to see [TS]

00:42:16   how that might happen Richard himself [TS]

00:42:18   until it happens all the time [TS]

00:42:20   absolutely and in fact I would say that [TS]

00:42:22   Captain America I look at this nation [TS]

00:42:26   and I say to myself [TS]

00:42:28   twenty percent Donald Trump well you [TS]

00:42:31   know you know captain america did a [TS]

00:42:34   great thing back in the day I mean look [TS]

00:42:37   in fact we're all believe that he killed [TS]

00:42:39   Hitler what you really done for us [TS]

00:42:42   lately [TS]

00:42:43   capitalism is that really what were [TS]

00:42:46   striving for and that's really against [TS]

00:42:50   the people cap or you really for [TS]

00:42:54   I rest my case interesting intriguing [TS]

00:42:56   question we're gonna leave it out there [TS]

00:42:58   Monty what do you say well your honor [TS]

00:43:03   you and honor are you just a bailiff I [TS]

00:43:05   am I am as poetry bail I as host I am [TS]

00:43:08   honorable to an extent it can ask the [TS]

00:43:12   bailiff to describe the contents of the [TS]

00:43:15   jpeg that I just entered into the record [TS]

00:43:17   yes so i can describe this for the [TS]

00:43:21   listeners who cannot check in the show [TS]

00:43:23   notes for this excellent piece of work [TS]

00:43:25   it is Captain America holding Thor's [TS]

00:43:28   hammer above his head shouting Avengers [TS]

00:43:30   Assemble while being looked upon by [TS]

00:43:33   passers-by and heroes who are nearby as [TS]

00:43:37   well as apparently he's about to be [TS]

00:43:38   attacked by Nazi robots [TS]

00:43:41   thank you i checked i have checked on [TS]

00:43:44   whether this is well there have been [TS]

00:43:47   many inches and its role in the [TS]

00:43:49   background and just now you're gonna [TS]

00:43:51   bring that up [TS]

00:43:52   well well you have had time to do your [TS]

00:43:55   research you said that only one person [TS]

00:43:57   has been able to lift Thor's hammer and [TS]

00:44:01   I just wanted to put on the record the [TS]

00:44:04   fact that captain america has in fact [TS]

00:44:06   with to Thor's hammer twice and [TS]

00:44:08   continuity but that is not the essence [TS]

00:44:11   of my argument the essence of my [TS]

00:44:14   argument as I consider captain america [TS]

00:44:17   beyond reproach will focus on my honored [TS]

00:44:19   opponent beta ray bill is basically [TS]

00:44:23   defined by being almost as good as Thor [TS]

00:44:26   it [TS]

00:44:27   he's like a substituted ingredient in a [TS]

00:44:30   recipe if you don't have Thor you can [TS]

00:44:34   use beta ray bill and you can put them [TS]

00:44:35   out below they're saying it'll basically [TS]

00:44:38   be fine [TS]

00:44:39   he's nearly Thor he's liam hemsworth oh [TS]

00:44:45   zing is not terrible but his first name [TS]

00:44:52   is literally beta the novelty of being a [TS]

00:44:59   hammer-wielding space horse can take you [TS]

00:45:02   only so far [TS]

00:45:03   and honorable judges i submit that this [TS]

00:45:07   round is where beta ray bills journey [TS]

00:45:09   has to end [TS]

00:45:11   thank you for your time alright we are [TS]

00:45:14   going to start with Lisa here [TS]

00:45:17   well i'll keep this very very very brief [TS]

00:45:21   in terms of who ranks above whom in the [TS]

00:45:24   comic index there is a beta ray bill who [TS]

00:45:28   again has the head of a horse i also [TS]

00:45:30   want to draw his attention to Bill known [TS]

00:45:34   as Starfighter in the wonderful comic [TS]

00:45:36   god hates astronauts who has the head of [TS]

00:45:38   a supernatural cow so even in the genre [TS]

00:45:41   of butt-kicking superheroes with the [TS]

00:45:44   head of livestock beta ray bill doesn't [TS]

00:45:46   match how you doing bill [TS]

00:45:47   yes named Bill get it i want i want to [TS]

00:45:50   add to we're not quite two three because [TS]

00:45:52   R cubed through hands-on with to you [TS]

00:45:54   merely have two examples but but even in [TS]

00:45:57   this contest battery bill losses also [TS]

00:45:59   you can't argue with the dude is [TS]

00:46:01   wielding a hammer and fighting not zero [TS]

00:46:02   but at the same time I find for Captain [TS]

00:46:04   America chip unfamiliar as i am with [TS]

00:46:07   beta ray bill it would take a while to [TS]

00:46:11   get to catch you up [TS]

00:46:12   i think the the phrase his first name is [TS]

00:46:16   literally beta is one of the most [TS]

00:46:19   masterful things I have ever heard on a [TS]

00:46:21   podcast haha I you know after after he [TS]

00:46:26   after hearing that any other words no [TS]

00:46:28   longer have meaning i can't rule against [TS]

00:46:31   Captain America I would be ruling [TS]

00:46:33   against myself chip is Captain America [TS]

00:46:35   ok yes the mirrorless Marlys alright so [TS]

00:46:40   I'm hearing a two-nothing verdict for [TS]

00:46:42   Captain America what the lesson we [TS]

00:46:45   learned here is being not as boring as [TS]

00:46:46   Thor can only go so far and this is the [TS]

00:46:50   point where beta ray bill gets off the [TS]

00:46:52   the treadmill but well well flat or [TS]

00:46:54   store well-fought let us move on to our [TS]

00:46:58   next round it is going to be number two [TS]

00:47:01   seed Wonder Woman versus number six seed [TS]

00:47:05   Barbara Gordon known as bad girl and [TS]

00:47:07   oracle tony is the advocate for wonder [TS]

00:47:10   woman hello [TS]

00:47:12   what do I need to say to ask any [TS]

00:47:14   questions of the judges about whether [TS]

00:47:16   they need to with it whether they can be [TS]

00:47:18   impartial in this situation I would [TS]

00:47:20   actually turkeys myself from this really [TS]

00:47:22   wow GG quick about it [TS]

00:47:25   that is a lot i'll allow it all out i [TS]

00:47:27   have i have a tiebreaking i have a [TS]

00:47:29   tiebreaking system in place should [TS]

00:47:30   should it's a coin it's a client is [TS]

00:47:32   judging excuse themselves ship and I [TS]

00:47:33   disagree your honor how can we have [TS]

00:47:36   wonder woman vs. Batgirl and have the [TS]

00:47:39   only woman on the panel not participate [TS]

00:47:41   this whole trial is a farce [TS]

00:47:42   i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i actually perhaps [TS]

00:47:44   you can't choose between them [TS]

00:47:47   I is Lisa if you which if you choose to [TS]

00:47:49   abstain how about this i would like you [TS]

00:47:51   to make a statement at the end and then [TS]

00:47:53   if you choose to abstain then you may do [TS]

00:47:55   so [TS]

00:47:56   alright alright alright so Monty you are [TS]

00:47:59   going for Barbara Gordon Tony you're [TS]

00:48:01   arguing for Wonder Woman Monty Barbara [TS]

00:48:04   Gordon's the number six seed one number [TS]

00:48:06   two so you were the underdog you may go [TS]

00:48:07   first all right now it should go without [TS]

00:48:11   saying that i have nothing but the [TS]

00:48:13   utmost respect for his woman I believe [TS]

00:48:23   that she was a princess surf sometimes [TS]

00:48:28   she's a princess [TS]

00:48:29   sometimes she's a goddess sometimes [TS]

00:48:31   she's been literally molded out of clay [TS]

00:48:33   the thing is one woman's background is [TS]

00:48:36   constantly changing to the point where [TS]

00:48:38   she's not the same character as she was [TS]

00:48:40   when she was first created and that's [TS]

00:48:42   good because i'm going to put this [TS]

00:48:44   delicately Wonder Woman's early comic [TS]

00:48:48   books are kind of not for kids they were [TS]

00:48:52   created by a world class weirdo who's [TS]

00:48:54   personal obsessions are right there on [TS]

00:48:56   every single page and they say that [TS]

00:49:00   Wonder Woman is one of the three pillars [TS]

00:49:02   of DC Comics you got Superman Batman and [TS]

00:49:05   Wonder Woman but the Wonder Woman we [TS]

00:49:07   have now they have carefully removed all [TS]

00:49:11   of the goofy nonsense that she used to [TS]

00:49:13   have [TS]

00:49:14   she's not from Paradise Island anymore [TS]

00:49:16   she's from the mascara her bracelets i'm [TS]

00:49:19   pretty sure are not made of a metal [TS]

00:49:21   called feminine um [TS]

00:49:23   anymore but that at least I hope they're [TS]

00:49:26   not if it thinks it is also from [TS]

00:49:28   Amazonia at one point hmm wonder woman [TS]

00:49:31   although she has put forth as a good [TS]

00:49:34   role model for young girls [TS]

00:49:35   he really isn't not like Barbara Gordon [TS]

00:49:38   the butt-kicking librarian and finally i [TS]

00:49:42   will remind the judges that yvonne craig [TS]

00:49:44   passed away very recently and a lovely [TS]

00:49:47   way to honor her memory would be to [TS]

00:49:51   honor that girl / oracle / Barbara [TS]

00:49:56   Gordon and put her through the next [TS]

00:49:59   round [TS]

00:50:00   thanks pulling out all the stops and [TS]

00:50:02   there will be wine that's how i got Tony [TS]

00:50:05   it's your turn my opponent has already [TS]

00:50:08   pointed out that Wonder Woman is is part [TS]

00:50:10   of the Holy Trinity that you know has [TS]

00:50:13   guided comics to where they are today [TS]

00:50:15   you know that girl has done a lot of a [TS]

00:50:18   lot of good work for the bat [TS]

00:50:19   Organization and I don't want to [TS]

00:50:21   underplay that but you know I she [TS]

00:50:25   probably only got that job because of [TS]

00:50:27   her dad is you know there's some [TS]

00:50:28   nepotism at work there this may not have [TS]

00:50:31   been the most qualified candidate for [TS]

00:50:33   that position and you know sometimes the [TS]

00:50:35   bat bureaucracy just keeps expanding and [TS]

00:50:38   there's back jobs and you you take on [TS]

00:50:40   who you need and it's you know it's kind [TS]

00:50:41   of the peter principle at work here also [TS]

00:50:44   you know I i think that the the recent [TS]

00:50:47   versions of a batgirl are actually has [TS]

00:50:50   become somewhat of a ridiculous hipster [TS]

00:50:51   that makes even me feel too old to be [TS]

00:50:54   reading those comics you know she's done [TS]

00:50:56   a lot of good good work for the the bat [TS]

00:50:58   agency over the years but i think [TS]

00:51:00   perhaps it you know she should take some [TS]

00:51:02   time off from superheroing and focus on [TS]

00:51:03   her studies [TS]

00:51:06   the end the end thank you okay well i'm [TS]

00:51:09   gonna go to chip for his his thoughts [TS]

00:51:12   and ruling yvonne craig was a lovely [TS]

00:51:14   woman [TS]

00:51:15   yvonne craig brought spandex to Batman [TS]

00:51:22   the the Batman TV show in and in [TS]

00:51:25   appealing in an appealing way how can i [TS]

00:51:28   how can i turn my back on Monty's [TS]

00:51:33   stirring recollections of her gifts and [TS]

00:51:38   talents and her memory by voting for [TS]

00:51:43   Wonder Woman pretty easily over Wonder [TS]

00:51:46   Woman alright Lisa what are your [TS]

00:51:50   thoughts [TS]

00:51:51   like I said I'm recusing myself from [TS]

00:51:52   this one the reason being that I am an [TS]

00:51:58   unapologetic and unashamed Barbara [TS]

00:52:01   Gordon / oracle fangirl and I don't [TS]

00:52:05   trust myself to be impartial on this [TS]

00:52:06   issue i have past history with oracle [TS]

00:52:09   advocate Gail Simone's wonderful [TS]

00:52:10   rehabilitation of the character and the [TS]

00:52:12   birds of prey series that every thought [TS]

00:52:13   every opportunity and do this lengthy [TS]

00:52:16   history i cannot issue a ruling in this [TS]

00:52:18   case [TS]

00:52:19   well this is a very difficult one for me [TS]

00:52:21   as well I i am married to a librarian my [TS]

00:52:30   wife also was a childhood fan of of [TS]

00:52:34   Wonder Woman and we have Wonder Woman [TS]

00:52:37   memorabilia in the house so how to [TS]

00:52:41   choose between these two characters i [TS]

00:52:43   don't know this is this is the most [TS]

00:52:44   supremely difficult battle i think that [TS]

00:52:47   that we're going to face I in the end i [TS]

00:52:54   think i have to rule over this way yes [TS]

00:52:58   Wonder Woman's history is a is peculiar [TS]

00:53:02   although her her creator is I think I [TS]

00:53:06   wouldn't get too judgmental about her [TS]

00:53:08   creator he was certainly lead an [TS]

00:53:09   interesting life but he created a [TS]

00:53:12   character that has resonated for years [TS]

00:53:14   in many different guises what what is to [TS]

00:53:17   be said for Batgirl [TS]

00:53:18   and oracle for Barbara Gordon is [TS]

00:53:20   somebody who is introduced as the kid [TS]

00:53:22   sidekick and the girl sidekick which is [TS]

00:53:24   not necessarily a position of strength [TS]

00:53:25   has it she has been transmogrified into [TS]

00:53:28   something bigger and better showing the [TS]

00:53:31   versatility of the writers and I think [TS]

00:53:34   that's to be commended [TS]

00:53:35   but in the end I like chip i think i [TS]

00:53:39   have to lean ever so slightly toward [TS]

00:53:41   Wonder Woman for being uh more fully [TS]

00:53:44   formed from the beginning and and sadly [TS]

00:53:48   have to say that Barbara Gordon has [TS]

00:53:50   passed as far as she can go so wonder [TS]

00:53:53   woman moves on to the next round [TS]

00:53:54   just justice is difficult work it is [TS]

00:53:56   difficult that was a tough one I [TS]

00:53:57   actually was sending instant messages to [TS]

00:53:59   Lauren that entire time saying please [TS]

00:54:00   choose one for me and she's smart [TS]

00:54:05   well because Babs is a library Babs is a [TS]

00:54:07   librarian and there's that there's not [TS]

00:54:08   tied to it and you know my own daughter [TS]

00:54:11   has a has a set of boredom and pajamas [TS]

00:54:14   that she absolutely adores and to be [TS]

00:54:16   honest because they don't make oracle [TS]

00:54:18   pajamas a little girl sex that's a [TS]

00:54:21   little dark [TS]

00:54:22   oh yeah now I was actually thinking if [TS]

00:54:24   we ever took her to a convention in [TS]

00:54:26   cosplay I would dress up like background [TS]

00:54:27   whenever put joker in a wheelchair like [TS]

00:54:30   a little Joker doll in a wheelchair nice [TS]

00:54:32   flip it around huh well if if dr. [TS]

00:54:36   strange should get a cold or something [TS]

00:54:38   it Barbara Gordon isn't available to [TS]

00:54:40   fight battles later I like that idea [TS]

00:54:42   she's an alternate how about that sounds [TS]

00:54:44   good to me I'd never move on to be final [TS]

00:54:47   matchup of the night it's the one that [TS]

00:54:49   the people who looked ahead in the [TS]

00:54:51   bracket thought was a possible but [TS]

00:54:53   highly unlikely match up and yet it has [TS]

00:54:57   come to pass through sheer luck i'm [TS]

00:55:00   going to say sheer luck it is the [TS]

00:55:02   matchup that everybody demanded and now [TS]

00:55:04   it is finally here [TS]

00:55:05   you know it you wanted it and now you [TS]

00:55:08   get to hear Dan more'n advocating for [TS]

00:55:11   Marvel's moon night against Tony [TS]

00:55:15   sindelar who is arguing for DC Comics [TS]

00:55:18   the Batman was that dan please tell us [TS]

00:55:23   about why moon night is great [TS]

00:55:26   that man is no good no good luck buddy [TS]

00:55:29   alright so [TS]

00:55:30   I i know this is this seems like an [TS]

00:55:33   uphill climb it seems like a tough row [TS]

00:55:35   to hoe here and and I know exactly what [TS]

00:55:37   my my esteemed opponent is gonna tell [TS]

00:55:40   you he's Batman and that may be true but [TS]

00:55:43   i think what we need to look at is the [TS]

00:55:45   fact here that it's incontrovertible [TS]

00:55:48   that Batman is just a terrible moon [TS]

00:55:49   night rip off because another night [TS]

00:55:52   dates back to ancient Egyptian god this [TS]

00:55:58   power on various sort of worthy vessels [TS]

00:56:03   and in that sense [TS]

00:56:05   Batman is simply a modern-day invention [TS]

00:56:08   of some guy who is a rich playboy and [TS]

00:56:12   yeah I had a tough upbringing but really [TS]

00:56:15   just decided that instead of using his [TS]

00:56:17   millions to help the poor people of [TS]

00:56:20   Gotham City that he would dress up like [TS]

00:56:21   a bat and beat the crap out of criminals [TS]

00:56:25   this is the guy was a butler right in [TS]

00:56:27   the evening we talked a little bit of [TS]

00:56:28   Tony Stark being full of privilege but [TS]

00:56:30   but Bruce Wayne is a poster boy for [TS]

00:56:33   white male privilege i mean anybody else [TS]

00:56:36   tried to dress up as a bat and beat up [TS]

00:56:38   people they would just not go very far [TS]

00:56:39   so I think that you know in some ways [TS]

00:56:42   Batman is just a pale imitation of moon [TS]

00:56:45   night I mean moon night is I think he [TS]

00:56:48   shows a certain degree of ostentation [TS]

00:56:51   listen and devil-may-care attitude that [TS]

00:56:53   Batman doesn't sure Batman dresses up in [TS]

00:56:55   dark clothes and goes around sneaks [TS]

00:56:56   around we're not wears all white and [TS]

00:56:58   runs around he is not afraid of being a [TS]

00:57:00   target because he has you know the power [TS]

00:57:03   of of good and righteousness and [TS]

00:57:05   psychosis on his side so i think in in [TS]

00:57:09   summation if I may present my case and [TS]

00:57:12   in just a simple brief sentence he's [TS]

00:57:15   moon night writer words never spoken [TS]

00:57:20   ah Tony tell us about why but the Batman [TS]

00:57:25   is so good and Moon Knight is so not [TS]

00:57:26   good [TS]

00:57:27   I'd like to say earlier case love [TS]

00:57:29   regarding he is Batman you do you are [TS]

00:57:31   you referring to Batman or moon that [TS]

00:57:32   would you make that stat I would like to [TS]

00:57:34   establish that Batman is bad me okay [TS]

00:57:37   uh-huh and just to make sure that there [TS]

00:57:40   no can do you want adventure I am a [TS]

00:57:42   hundred percent sure that Batman is [TS]

00:57:43   Batman uh welcome to technology club [TS]

00:57:47   um so just to just to dispel any [TS]

00:57:49   potential confusion among our judges are [TS]

00:57:51   listeners we all know that Batman was [TS]

00:57:53   created in the thirties and midnight is [TS]

00:57:55   created in the seventies which I think [TS]

00:57:58   my opponent will have to concede happens [TS]

00:58:00   after the 30 pretty awesome decade [TS]

00:58:02   though eighteen seventies you mean ya [TS]

00:58:04   know [TS]

00:58:04   yes actually before nineteen thirties [TS]

00:58:06   but nice try with your lies and [TS]

00:58:08   flim-flam moon night there's really not [TS]

00:58:12   a lot i can say to impeach moon night [TS]

00:58:14   because nobody knows who he is because [TS]

00:58:16   he is literally just Marvel's [TS]

00:58:18   watered-down Batman and you know what [TS]

00:58:20   tonight is pretty awesome he is a really [TS]

00:58:23   cool underappreciated Marvel hero and if [TS]

00:58:26   you know you're somewhere and you can't [TS]

00:58:28   get Batman you know maybe maybe this [TS]

00:58:31   will carry over until you get to your [TS]

00:58:32   next Batman installment butBut moon [TS]

00:58:34   night is just he's just imitation Batman [TS]

00:58:37   he store-brand Batman except no [TS]

00:58:39   substitutions alright let's go to leave [TS]

00:58:41   her for her judgment [TS]

00:58:42   this is a difficult one because no it's [TS]

00:58:45   not [TS]

00:58:46   no comments from the peanut gallery [TS]

00:58:49   please [TS]

00:58:50   that's not Ella the one hand the input [TS]

00:58:53   the first really wants me to sing them [TS]

00:58:55   like moonlight take it all the way for [TS]

00:58:56   good again often mistaken as moon.white [TS]

00:58:58   I have a very about courtrooms they need [TS]

00:59:01   an agent of chaos driver let you think [TS]

00:59:05   about justice [TS]

00:59:06   I want to just think about well just as [TS]

00:59:08   it's coming in for other alright [TS]

00:59:10   continue Lisa you for the immediate [TS]

00:59:13   briefs but the truth of the matter is a [TS]

00:59:18   crazy dude who may or may not be [TS]

00:59:19   multiple personalities one of which may [TS]

00:59:21   or may not be an ancient Egyptian [TS]

00:59:22   divinity is sorely boiler he's not he [TS]

00:59:26   just won't do not cast aspersions it [TS]

00:59:29   simply know this whole round is about as [TS]

00:59:31   casting argument said closed oversleep [TS]

00:59:36   we got you gotta be careful we start we [TS]

00:59:37   start exploring the mental health of our [TS]

00:59:39   clients and I had [TS]

00:59:40   that's a that's a dark road nobody wins [TS]

00:59:42   then that's just 0 is nobody vs no way [TS]

00:59:44   for the final round that eat the thing [TS]

00:59:47   is if Barry Allen is the heart of the DC [TS]

00:59:49   Universe you could argue that Batman is [TS]

00:59:50   kind of the dysfunctional mom who keeps [TS]

00:59:52   them all together inside I was really [TS]

00:59:54   hoping to fit all the salt very heart [TS]

00:59:57   and and that means that's there [TS]

00:59:57   and and that means that's there [TS]

01:00:00   I know hereby hard you know because you [TS]

01:00:01   think about this and and Batman has has [TS]

01:00:04   helped a half dozen people in the DC nor [TS]

01:00:08   springboard into their own place in the [TS]

01:00:10   in the superhero pantheon [TS]

01:00:11   he is arguably the greatest detective in [TS]

01:00:14   the DC Universe he keeps Superman honest [TS]

01:00:17   and on his toes and for Superman to [TS]

01:00:19   confront his construction of humanity [TS]

01:00:22   even as he is super and is that how he [TS]

01:00:27   did well now look the dress code aside e [TS]

01:00:30   Batman brings everyone else together [TS]

01:00:33   either because they're terrified of him [TS]

01:00:34   or they can't figure out where they want [TS]

01:00:37   to work with him but he's something [TS]

01:00:38   everybody in the DC Universe in common [TS]

01:00:39   and he's got like the coolest rogue's [TS]

01:00:43   gallery ever so I'm gonna find for [TS]

01:00:46   Batman alright Batman gets a vote from [TS]

01:00:49   lee so judge Jim judge it whatever the [TS]

01:00:53   audacity of advocate morons argument it [TS]

01:00:59   moves me I I I was like God give me a [TS]

01:01:04   reason to vote for moon night and I got [TS]

01:01:05   several and then Dan said that Batman is [TS]

01:01:09   a pale imitation of moon night Dan [TS]

01:01:12   Batman is a pale imitation of moonlight [TS]

01:01:15   what color is badass cost you up [TS]

01:01:19   dark light gray no dark defending that [TS]

01:01:22   depends on your version did well your [TS]

01:01:24   night likely great yeah what color the [TS]

01:01:27   19 Knights costume it's impossible to be [TS]

01:01:29   sure haha not no one has ever really [TS]

01:01:32   seen him [TS]

01:01:32   why does not really ignore your honor I [TS]

01:01:35   believe the color is pale imitation is [TS]

01:01:37   that what you're asking [TS]

01:01:37   it is indeed I 54 Batman alright well [TS]

01:01:41   Oh pale imitation is a great paint color [TS]

01:01:43   for kitchen to see you know if any man [TS]

01:01:46   that can roll around in like a pilot [TS]

01:01:47   suit or something and pretend to be [TS]

01:01:49   Batman in the next round [TS]

01:01:50   unfortunately been doing forever we're [TS]

01:01:53   checking IDs and he won't be allowed [TS]

01:01:54   through so bad man moves along to the [TS]

01:01:57   next round and and with that we have cut [TS]

01:02:00   our number of heroes from 16 to 28 the [TS]

01:02:04   remaining heroes in our in our [TS]

01:02:06   tournament our number-one seed [TS]

01:02:09   spider-man number two seed captain [TS]

01:02:11   america that went according to plan [TS]

01:02:13   number one seed a let's see what number [TS]

01:02:16   one seed Batman number two seed one [TS]

01:02:19   woman that also went according to plan [TS]

01:02:21   then we have number five seed Doctor [TS]

01:02:22   Strange up against number three seed the [TS]

01:02:25   flash number 12 seed cinderella story [TS]

01:02:30   the thing Ben Graham going up against [TS]

01:02:32   number two seed Wolverine those are the [TS]

01:02:36   eight heroes who remain in our ultimate [TS]

01:02:37   quest to discover something that we're [TS]

01:02:40   not sure about about superheroes I and [TS]

01:02:44   we will resolve all of the rest of this [TS]

01:02:46   tournament in one final edition of the [TS]

01:02:49   incomparable home please let it be only [TS]

01:02:51   one final edition and comfortable summer [TS]

01:02:53   superhero tournament in in a few weeks [TS]

01:02:56   when you have a one-hour episode that's [TS]

01:02:58   just the final one on one will be a [TS]

01:03:02   radio drama i want to sit there any [TS]

01:03:04   popcorn [TS]

01:03:05   yeah well we'll see you around both the [TS]

01:03:07   advocates will just be shouting at each [TS]

01:03:09   other [TS]

01:03:09   yeah stop shouting first loses still [TS]

01:03:12   have some will have some very exciting [TS]

01:03:13   space fire coming up there but until [TS]

01:03:15   then I want to thank our are advocates [TS]

01:03:18   Monty Ashley thank you for being here [TS]

01:03:20   thank you Jason [TS]

01:03:21   sorry Superman voices too jaan thank you [TS]

01:03:25   for being here thank you very much for [TS]

01:03:27   having me what I do isn't very nice but [TS]

01:03:29   I'm I'm the best there is at what it is [TS]

01:03:31   whatever that is a job offering Mo's [TS]

01:03:36   philipose black thank you so much for [TS]

01:03:38   being here it's a pleasure and I i try [TS]

01:03:41   to do the people's will appreciate it [TS]

01:03:44   Tony sindelar thank you for fighting the [TS]

01:03:46   good fight I will always fight the good [TS]

01:03:47   fight as long as I don't have to fight [TS]

01:03:49   Batman also you were three and out [TS]

01:03:50   tonight so congratulations on that I [TS]

01:03:52   cheat to win and Dan Morgan thank you [TS]

01:03:55   for that driver [TS]

01:03:57   alright that way I think you're thinking [TS]

01:03:59   of batman forever just a film would not [TS]

01:04:02   have gotten one night that they're in [TS]

01:04:04   there have been way more bad Batman [TS]

01:04:06   films in bad moon night fell we have you [TS]

01:04:09   seen the area that the fan recut of the [TS]

01:04:11   Batman movies to feature moon night [TS]

01:04:12   they're done by dan and his brother [TS]

01:04:15   and I'd like to think the doing the hard [TS]

01:04:18   job of being our judges chips under [TS]

01:04:21   thank you [TS]

01:04:22   we should start calling this loss go to [TS]

01:04:24   scare and research miser thank you thank [TS]

01:04:27   you it's a pleasure and everybody out [TS]

01:04:29   there thank you for putting up with us [TS]

01:04:30   this is ridiculous we know but we also [TS]

01:04:32   think it's kind of fun and we will be [TS]

01:04:34   back with a regular episode next weekend [TS]

01:04:36   yes the threat of more superhero [TS]

01:04:38   tournament is out there in a few weeks [TS]

01:04:39   until then thanks for listening [TS]