261: Summer Superhero Spectacular: Round Three
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the incomparable number 261 artists 2015
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welcome back everybody to be
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uncomfortable we're back for the third
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round of our a pointless
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why are we doing this superhero
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spectacular something-or-other
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tournament we've we've reduced our
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numbers 216 we're gonna go down to eight
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superheroes in this round a few changes
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have happened since the last two rounds
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first off let me introduce our two new
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judges Lisa Schmeisser has been promoted
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from advocate to judge as so often
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happens
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hi Lisa I like to think I'm failing
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upward hello yes you have worked and
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succeeded and your reward is being a
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judge in this ridiculous tournament
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likewise chip sudderth not Tony chip
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sudderth you were also a judge now
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congratulations i'm sorry i am looking
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forward to completely forgetting every
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moment of advocacy i have ever had and
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ruling a just and fair and completely
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dispassionate forget that is why you
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were elevated to the bench also joining
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us we have our we have our excellent
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advocates Monty Ashley hello your honor
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I'm just a simple country comic book-
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yes reference acknowledged voices to
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hello hello you are prepared
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I briefs legal briefs I i I've got to be
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honest with you i wish i wish that i
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could say that I were and to echo my
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colleague I i feel like the the only
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thing to do is to is to call in a favor
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and have a friend a simple country
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lawyer take my place this evening if
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that's permissible it's not permissible
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well I rule against you well then I'll
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just I'll just have to muddle through
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you'll have to do it you'll have to do
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it yourself we want you feel most black
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is also out there back for more
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punishment I most I'm here to do my job
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yep i'm not gonna take this serious but
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I'm here to do the people's will all
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right and I'm very I'm fantastically
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excited about the new judge lineup
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alright well done well is your way of
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sucking up to us
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no there's no real bad now because
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passwords it's working i'm no it's not
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it's really not my type split-decision
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yeah we're back
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Jason you're gonna have to say yes I
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know something nice about the typewriter
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why don't you Tony sindelar also one of
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our advocates tonight I Tony hi jason i
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have been practicing my legal Rasul and
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my legal dazzles you know I'm ready also
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i'm prepared to cheat to win
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unlike last time i like i like the
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wrestled as a reference how could it go
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I have a good feeling is your some of
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your some of your character something
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you can do well tonight and dan moore
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and hello dan welcome back chasing we
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have to do to get bumped up to judge
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because I'm about done with this uh well
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let's see how you do tonight
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let's say anything I I just I I sure
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hope that you don't have lose any first
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like top seeds that I think that
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unlikely
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yeah it's not gonna happen before we get
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started I work for your previous
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episodes where we picked two heroes
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against each other eventually will solve
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a problem nobody wanted solve which is
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what we'll pick a hero that won the
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tournament for some reason but to get
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there we have different rules meet
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around in this round we've asked the
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advocates to go negative and while they
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can talk about that what's great about
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their hero they should at very least
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frame it and in the context of what's
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wrong with the other guy and if they
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just want to go full-on negative and
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just completely assault the character
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that they oppose then they are
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encouraged to do that it's a it's the
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it's the negative campaigning edition of
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the superhero tournament
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let's get started with our first
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showdown it is number one iron man who
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will be represented by Dan and number 12
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the thing who will be represented by
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Tony Tony can you give us your statement
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about the thing and more importantly
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about iron man so look the thing is a is
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a is a classic workingman superhero a
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man a super hero of the people
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Tony Stark is a drunk chauvinist
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womanizer
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he's basically the Donald Trump of the
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Avengers it literally takes a team of
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like pepper and Captain America and
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Rohde sometimes even happy Hogan to
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basically keep him on track
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otherwise he's just a walking disaster
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he needs a support team he's basically
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just you know sure he's done some things
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in his life but you know he would he was
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he born on third base you know sort of
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Howard Stark and it's just you know
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walking around claiming that he hit a
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home run he's not the true hero that
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that the thing is that was a really good
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baseball metaphor I think he didn't get
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it quite right but I a for effort
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Tony I was i thought we were talking
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about cricket yeah that's right well
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third-base home run
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you gotta go another base there i'm not
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sure if Tony Stark flew to the other
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base or not but that's that's fine that
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was very good
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dan you are defending iron man attacking
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the thing go ahead and deed
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well I far be it for me to disagree with
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my esteemed colleague but i must point
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out that the the thing do anything to
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become a superhero now it was purely
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accidental
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Tony Stark is a self-made man the thing
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is a rock she's just a big rock and well
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you know the the implications of being a
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blue-collar superhero are admirable i
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think that you have to look back at the
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fact and say that that the the thing Ben
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Grimm he's just he doesn't mean he
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doesn't really know what he's doing he's
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just a guy who's been giving some powers
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and doesn't really seem to have a plan
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or any sort of angle for using them i
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mean this is a guy the best slogan he
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could come up with is it's clobbering
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damn when time is it it's clobbering
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time that's in our data that's not any
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that's not in any clock us unlost just
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say clobbering know any that's not gonna
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stop clock is Right twice a day but no
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dough clocks in clobbering time is this
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meeting over yet
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oh god my face in conclusion I would
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like to say that how far can you trust
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any superhero whose voice patterns are
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based on Jimmy Durante he's alright time
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to throw this to our judges Lisa you are
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the first judge on this case what are
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your thoughts
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have we ever definitively established
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the thing is in fact a pile of sentient
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rocks and if so where is you where there
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are are they made in the USA rocks are
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foreign rocks are the space rocks born
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in Brooklyn born in Brooklyn em so the
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rocks remind Brooke is the thing lying
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about his origins
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I have no reason to believe that but the
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thing is never lied about anything
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he's as honest as the orange rock from
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which he is bored to tears point what
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again only I don't think that our
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exposure i love you know what what what
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are you a geologist super-g I was
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baseball geologist I think everyone is
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going somewhere this liquid that were
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asking a question you don't want to yeah
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especially about the thing I'm I i have
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more questions for the for the plate tip
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we're off to an early and early great
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earlier ailment happen again triking
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forgerock it'sit's click that Lisa would
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you like that would you like to pass and
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let your other judges under I would
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please let well now I actually preferred
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but I want to hear chip side of
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increasing free issue it because I can
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be swayed and persuasive argument
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intriguing this is a river in new ground
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here is what what what are your thoughts
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Siri what is clobbering time
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let me check on that ok i found this on
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the web for clobbering time
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serie did not give me any kind of
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indication of a specific time that
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clobbering time is I'm sorry i am i'm
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sympathetic to tony's argument against
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Iron Man as being a creature of
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privilege but dan had the gall to attack
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the thing for not being special for not
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being smart for not having agency
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ah it strikes me from hearing these
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arguments that the thing is the every
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not only the every person hero but the
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hero for the rest of us who are not very
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special i find for the thing please sir
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I have to find for something that was
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forged in Brooklyn
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I find for the thing as well I well that
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that that's its two to nothing two most
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most generic of superhero names next
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time we went over this stuff then you
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already lost just gotta let it go now
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oh no I know I can I can be bitter and
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petty after all right it's much more fun
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with so the thing moves on even though
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he wasn't actually from Brooklyn and we
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move on to our next pairing it's going
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to be Monty but you are going to be
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talking about spider-man and facing off
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against number four seed kitty pryde who
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is going to be defended by Moises s so
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moist is your the lower seat here number
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one number one versus number four I will
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let you go first to tell us what's great
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about gay pride and more important
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what's not so great about the old
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webhead well I to start off with and
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jonah Jameson ready
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is that which is wru is James and one of
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your consultants because that would be
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really smart of you to do your honor
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your honor
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I I have to be honest I i wish i wish
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that i had more terrible things to say
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about spider-man
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I wish that I did I only have a few
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dozen that that i was able to bring to
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the table this evening and now whereas
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with Kitty Pryde you have someone who
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has repeatedly constantly put themselves
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on the line but their life on the line
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and sacrificed and sacrifice and
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sacrificed time a variety of different
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costumes a variety of different aliases
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code names for the sake of the good of
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life liberty and the pursuit of justice
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that kind of stuff with spider-man
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granted he is marvel signature well he
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was Marvel signature hero until they
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recently decided that's now Iron Man so
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perhaps perhaps that demotion in and of
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itself is the beginning of an indicator
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as to where the problems the spider-man
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begin for someone who's trademark slogan
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is with great power comes great
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responsibility to be so repeatedly
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irresponsible selfish and just plain bad
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luck not only to himself but the people
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around him how howhow could
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that individual be the greatest hero to
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rise to the top of the illustrious ranks
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that we've gone through so far how could
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that individual often at the center of a
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crossover not because he's particularly
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able to stop a cosmic threat on his own
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but because g-shocks he's a great guy
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and he's the company mascot not do to
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characters and frankly we must break
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comic book fan but to me spider-man is
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way too much big-city way too much
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family name as it were before actual
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achievements
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deaths death of captain Stacy death of
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not a single good-hearted person or
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member of law enforcement they can go
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anywhere near spider-man without their
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life immediately being put at risk
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rather than feeling like they have some
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semblance of security or more than about
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a 15 issue lifespan so your honors again
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there are many great things that
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spider-man is done but really crucially
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it is the many irresponsible selfish and
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outright lamebrain things that he's done
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over the years that has me asking that
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you must find in favor of Kitty Pryde
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who would who would sail across the
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galaxy invisible inside of a giant
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bullet before she would think of herself
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what is a true hero is up to you to
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decide to decide my dear judges I rest
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my case
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right that was that had more endings in
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the lord of the rings but thank you my
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success we just like most spider-man
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crossover events we move on to monsey
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level a stick their his last name you
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feeling our family legacy dash man yeah
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a land is honorable tradition i think
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you'll agree yes indeed I implore you
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are a lot of all Spider Man huh
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tell us tell us your story
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naughty kitty pryde is an intangible
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teenage girl with a pet dragon is
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sometimes known as Ariel
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sprite or Shadowcat depending on whether
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the current writer can keep a straight
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face about it according to wikipedia
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she's soon going to add star lady to
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that roster of random names nobody ever
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calls her she mostly exists to look on
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goggle eyed as truly heroic characters
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do all the work when you can phase out
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of physical reality you're never in any
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physical danger her stories don't have
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any snakes she's cute she's fun but
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she's not heroic enough to make it past
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this round if you want a teenager who
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actually grapples with problems and put
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himself on the line to save the world
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over and over again
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you gotta go spider-man I rest my case
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well those were very powerful arguments
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we're going to move to judge chip
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judgeship what do you think star lady
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yes our lady is joining the guardians of
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the galaxy star lady it's like star-lord
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but yeah you're never gonna believe this
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they found ways and nowhere else
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thursdays i wasn't aware there's a star
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parentage is they're also going to start
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early star count to start campus star by
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well it gets confusing because there are
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the space where the space nights you see
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some other space Dame's with the space
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nights possible go ahead and hold it
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against kitty pryde that her only
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choices are a bunch of dopey doot
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I gotta get him thrown into the digital
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chip let's say you um I advocate voices
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were you aware you can you use you spoke
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of spider-man as the fraternity legacy
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of Marvel superhero characters i don't
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suppose you are aware that this justice
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was a member of the five new Alpha
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Sinfonia music fraternity in college at
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the Larry Sanders is slander this
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slander against a hallowed institution
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forces meet find in favor of spider-man
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wow well again sometimes you need to do
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your research about your judges i will
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is fair and impartial decision it's
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moved to Lisa
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completely dispassionate to I enjoyed
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the focus nastiness of advocate Monty's
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of assault and so I find for spider-man
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wow I think you should I think you
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should award reward both brevity and
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brutality
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yep yeni pride undone by a male hero yet
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again no save it she's got terrible
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taste in men have to say this was a yes
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dentistry this is a yeah this is a tough
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one for me because I want both those
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characters but spider-man moves on
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unanimously our judges have are in sync
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at the moment we're gonna move on with
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impeccable legal reason absolutely i
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have no these are not coming back on
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review because there is no review but
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still they're not coming back
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we're going to imagine see British and
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shorts life its legal decision mister
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mister mister uh advocate moist rihanna
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is going to advocate now for the Hulk
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against Barry Allen the flash em as
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advocated by moze moze you get to go
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well my talking about the Hulk
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I mean the Hulk I mean basically look
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he's green peas lean well not so lean
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he's actually kind of a big buff
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whatever he is gamma radiation filled
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human being but at the end of the day
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what is he really
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dr. Jekyll mr. Hyde are all our
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superheroes
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basically balancing between those two
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things so what makes the whole so
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special
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I'll tell you Andy anak oh he's not
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he's a wanton garbage filled you know
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basically completely invulnerable
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ah bastion of destruction
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who cares it's dumb
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he had Bruce Banner you can talk so much
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about science and and how cool this guy
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is how smart he is at the end of the day
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who cares because all everybody looks as
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the whole all he does is come on thru
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break some doors break some buildings
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break this that and the other
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is that really what we want from a hero
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in fact i would tell you that he's not a
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hero planet hulk who cares it's not this
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world i mean at the end of the day what
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he does here destroys humanity at the
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end of the day
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stumm but what does he contribute
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ok at the end of the day he's completely
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invulnerable
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that's crazy when you look at the wide
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array of heroes out there and the Hulk
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is the top end of the chain
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he can't be beat puny God garbage mark
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ruffalo garbage
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oh wow it's all over are you serious are
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you serious
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judges well please listen
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is the whole really a hero just because
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you so invulnerable
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I mean really purple shorts and
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vulnerable
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I rest my case I had that the this that
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is a fascinatingly dismissive argument
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which I kind of enjoy voice it's your
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turn to reply with in favor of the whole
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game against the flash
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I hold no ill will toward the flash I
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have to be honest I can't say that I
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hate the flash I cannot stand here
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before you judges and say the flash is
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terrible the flashes a pile of garbage
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and absolutely in essential to comic
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book lord I can't do that i just i can't
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do that because I have too much respect
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for these legendary characters I i wish
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my colleague on the other side of the
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courtroom were so respectful but alas it
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were not to be the hulk single-handedly
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was responsible to me and to many for
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turning around the notion of the Marvel
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crossover which of course got undone
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relatively quickly thereafter with with
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the planet hulk leading into world war
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hulk making the Marvel Universe world of
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crossing over their characters actually
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interesting for once and not just a
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rehash of house event for the thousandth
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time one of the things that is most
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beloved about the Hulk is exactly what
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my opponent here tells you is so
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terrible about him which is his duality
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of self duality of purpose his confusion
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as to what direction his life is going
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in fact he carries a very heavy load so
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I I again i'm so i'm so sad that that I
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am across the aisle from an opponent who
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seems to devalue comic book characters
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so fundamentally especially their
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portrayal as done by wonderful actors
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like Mark Ruffalo now turning to the
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flash if we're really looking at
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fundamentally the person to be the top
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of the superhero pile do we want that to
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be a hero who's very super power can
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result in rewriting and unwinding and
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erasing comic-book continuity and
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resulting in a version of various
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characters across an entire multiverse
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that nobody really likes be honest
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was the new 52 just the bee's knees for
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everybody or it wasn't just me who found
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Batman and Green Lantern were two of a
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few books that was really still worth
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reading after the flash flash pointed
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all over DC how can we allow that to be
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the title signature hero of this
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competition how can we allow such a
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thing and perhaps a minor note but just
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speaking to greater world progress peace
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happiness around the globe with how much
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Barry Allen has to eat did his Malibu
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and metabolic rate judges i would say
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that we must eliminate him from this
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competition because if he were the last
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hero left on earth he would eat the
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earth out of sustainable vegetation meet
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a consumable food in and of itself the
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flash if we take both of these
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characters to the end of time the flash
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is the one that is going to either
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destroy the universe as it is or eat it
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I rest my case alright interesting
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arguments there got a little ecological
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at the end i I'm find that fascinating
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let's move to Lisa what are your
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thoughts about this case so what I'm
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hearing is that the whole could destroy
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the planet simply by having a temper
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tantrum whereas the flash could destroy
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the planet simply by having too many
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tacos this is this correct both
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advocates correct i would say that i
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would say that the flash is capable of
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of depleting the planet of consumable
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resources could he then run back in time
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and change things so that there are more
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tacos for him
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do we really have to remove that
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narrative your Your Honor I call paradox
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taco paradoxian my travelpod open source
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is paradoxical time so we have the app
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so on the one hand as a judge's is a
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difficult decision to render because on
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the one hand we do have a hero who is
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capable of altering the very fabric of
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space and time for narrative convenience
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on the other hand we have a superhero
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who is so potent and so powerful that
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several of his other fellow powerful
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superheroes got together a super-secret
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brainy cabal sent into another planet
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which he then conquered
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rules like a god and then came back to
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earth of the grudge
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these two are fairly evenly matched and
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a less impartial judge would immediately
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vote for the flash because she did not
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appreciate the ding against Mark Ruffalo
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who has single-handedly redeemed the
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Hulk in Marvel Cinematic Universe i
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would argue however in this case i'm
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finding for the most powerful and potent
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superhero and I find for the one that
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break the tie I as as the arguments are
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loved uh loved the break pack planet
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hulk so the fact that despite all of
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Allen and the flash and feel that he is
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in fact the DC Comics character that I
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I real for the flash the flash moves on
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yeah that's how that feels exciting to
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look and rerouted my remote
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easy there Joe Biden this result can be
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rewritten by the reality in mere minutes
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a little flash does need to reread it
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because he won yeah he's had perhaps you
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won't get lost when previous we never
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said if you would like to be on reviews
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and I'll i am i holding these tacos
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that's what let's move on
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here is our matchup between number two
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seed Wolverine as argued by Morris s and
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Rorschach from watchmen as argued by
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moze moze you are the underdog so why
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don't you go first
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most worst character in the comic book
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why you ask well Deadpool is gone
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already so well the only event
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be careful be careful what we wish for
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because we wished for a amazingly
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ridiculously haired and by the way his
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hair matches his costume which is stupid
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and he has a unbreakable
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Oh bone structure that's kind of let's
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just say ridiculous now at the end of
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the day lets his strategy run-and-gun
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and / and kill and sniffed and sniffed
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and snikt but recently full-frame lost
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his healing factor so what does he
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really have nothing
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unbreakable bones I mean look the the
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Hulk that guy that other that green guy
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ripped him apart
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completely in half for two-and-a-half
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years is that really a hero that gets
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ripped in half and just live to tell
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about it
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in fact i will go so far as to say um I
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know I'm on treading on thin ground here
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a guy named Spock gave him the Klingon
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death grip whatever that's called you
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know what's called the you know that
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love Vulcan death grip and knocked him
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out so happily invulnerable is this guy
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and I will go so far as the same look
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popsicle oh yeah popsicle the brand they
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made x-men popsicles with in the shape
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of Wolverines haircut that again
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conforms to his um yeah his his costume
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which is stupid
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really it's stupid and we couldn't even
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get it straight that this guy had to
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have english put on his little of what
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are those claws and then they turn them
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into bone because who wait a minute it's
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got to be genetic it's gotta be mutation
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it can't be it can't be something else
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look this guy has been literally put
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everywhere and anywhere as the character
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who's so invulnerable that we all should
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care about his dumb and you know he is
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and when you really look at him is
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I rest my case alright the popsicle
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defense comes out at last voice s please
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tell us why were in this great and
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Rorschach is not well I your honors I
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have to say the the the charges leveled
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against Wolverine are really the
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foundation of a fantastic thesis on why
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he is one of the greatest comic book
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heroes of all time and frankly there's
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much more depth and levels of intrigue
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to be had in stories told about this
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character than the Rorschach what other
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stories are you going to tell with war
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Shaq Shaq is great in watchmen
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watchman's a great piece of fiction i
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will I I cannot argue that I cannot
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argue that I can't say that's a bad
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what doesn't make any sense to me is how
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he fits into any of the of the broader
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mythic landscape of superhero narrative
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since there was never any sort of a
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prequel or sequel to watchman that i
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know of at least I don't know how
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Rorschach fits in anything else and not
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to to to throw politics into this but
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Rorschach is also the only character on
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this entire roster that's openly
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endorsed by a political candidate Ted
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Cruz and regardless of what you think of
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my fellow Texan and fellow Cuban
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American and fellow not much else
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Ted Cruz the endorsement of political
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figure immediately makes me suspect of
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any comic book character
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well what are we going to do next pay
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attention to who you know Lex Luthor
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endorses forehead of the Justice League
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i I just I don't see how considering the
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the litany of better qualities that
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Wolverine has going for him at an
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exponential rate that anyone could
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possibly find for Shaq for me it's it's
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the most lopsided battle that there is
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and and frankly not for effect but
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simply because i'm in all I am I am
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absolutely abject Lee in all of how much
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better job than i did that my opponent
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did in in defending Wolverine I i would
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have to say that you have to listen to
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my opponent and find for Wolverine
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Yorkers fascinating I'll let's go to
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chip with his verdict intrigue arguments
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on both sides I
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iddi I detect a startled assets subtle
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commonality of approach with advocate
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Mo's are whose exponents are
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ridiculously stupid it's dumb i think
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was a strong argument i'd like to see
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the site legal citations for it's dumb
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but it did sound good
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I i can't i can't endorse Wolverines
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Erica in any way but popsicles popsicles
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are kind of neat actually they're tasty
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they're there they're cheap they're
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there they're flavorful
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I like to just like wolverine cheap and
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flavorful and endorsement by Ted Cruz I
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don't want to get political but that's
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that's that that's pure applesauce arm i
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find for Wolverine interesting that the
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vote for the big sideburns let's move on
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to Lisa I really don't think we should
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spend our time focusing on how these
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characters look because that's an
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enormous your owner is normative yeah
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it's just a limiting and we've all had
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bad hair days it's it's not the fault of
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wolverine that he's had a bad hair life
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he said long and eventful life filled
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with stupid episodes like ninja
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badassery and fighting in myth admiss
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terious wars and so on and so forth
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however bacon presumably Korshak really
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smells bad by the way so no the one
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argument that his sweetie however is a
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one that was pointed out which is that
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war shocks value as a character rest
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precisely in his limited deployment you
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really can't spin off the adventures of
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Rorschach requires a japanese wife and
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teaches kitty pryde how to be a samurai
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Rorschach is never going to background a
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shopping mall with Jubilee and be her
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sidekick on her many adventures were
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shocked is a genuine loner so that
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sharply reduces the odds that he'll join
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eight different teams in the Marvel
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Universe and insist on all of them that
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he's a loner Rorschach is never going to
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do the cannibal special
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the thing that makes him such a great
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character makes him a limited hero
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because he exists in one roll only and
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that is at and that is to be
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uncompromising principal and as if we
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see at the end of the watchman
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uncompromising principles of course
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destroyed i find for Wolverine for pure
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narrative entertainment
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alright Wolverine advances to the next
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good arguments all right we're going to
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move onto a marquee matchup number one
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seed Superman has argued by Monty
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against number five seed Doctor Strange
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shoes advocate is dan dan you're the
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lower seed please tell us why is my
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doctor Strange's good friend Superman is
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bad respected judges are i would like to
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enter the following facts into evidence
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Superman not a doctor as far as i can
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tell you know postgraduate degrees of
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any kind that's just kind of a big lunk
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head who seems to fly around and
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strangely it's really a saver America
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like you Justina he's got that whole
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American thing going on which i guess is
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great and all but at the same time hehe
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comes off a little too potentially you
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know right wing / fascist for me so I'm
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a little concerned about that item
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evidence number two Superman does not
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have an awesome mustache and I think not
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undervalue that that lack of of awesome
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facial hair is really just going to hold
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them back i mean there's no place to go
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this is a guy who could desperately use
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some facial hair because he needs to
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maintain a secret identity and instead
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he just puts on a pair of glasses so
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clearly not the sharpest tool in the
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shed to begin with the item number three
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superman also not a sorcerer i think
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that is worth pointing out that you know
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there is there are those who have
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mastered the magical arts and those who
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are just kind of big strong guys you fly
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around a lot
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and my final piece of evidence i would
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like to point out that he is also
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allergic to rocks and that is just like
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the worst weakness ever I mean clearly
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if the thing went up against Superman
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then Scooby hollow-point so in the end
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I'm and strong but no all right Monty
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it's time for your report
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Doctor Strange is not a superhero
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he's a magician he should restrict
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himself to guessing what coward you're
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thinking of now I realize that techno
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he's a wizard or sorcerer not a common
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street or stage magician but what does
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that mean that means he should be
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hanging out in the Shire not in comic
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books also he's going to be played by
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Benedict Cumberbatch in the upcoming
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movie which means you're already sick of
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it before it even comes out and finally
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know how quickly finally comes name
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Doctor Strange is the laziest comic-book
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moniker since mr. fantastic I rest my
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oh nice a lot love a short but sweet
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arguments there
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let's go to Lisa for her thoughts on the
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verdict I i think one of the unfortunate
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side effects of having a lengthy public
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record is that my disdain for mr.
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fantastic is well known and I worry that
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it is a an attempt to bias me doing the
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doctor strange to be fair is his name
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his name is Stephen strange we have
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Richards name is not fantastic this is
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also true
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believe so i think it was changed from
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strange kowski was originally published
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he was going to be this is true he was
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going to be mr. straight until Stanley
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decided that was too much like mr.
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fantastic
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so rather than come up with a better
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kind of day we just had been making in
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spent six years in strange magical
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medical school to be called mr. street
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actually I believe the doctor Strange's
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origins are such where he was a
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hoity-toity surgeon who have
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time for anything until he was in a car
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accident lost the ability to operate
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right and then was desperate to regain
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it and so he embarked on mystical path
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and kinda got distracted by that was
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already pre love kind of things it was
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it was and the problem is in a trail of
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Dormammu yes and the promises now that
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you put it that way I'm almost empty
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I'm almost tempted to vote for him just
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because a superhero with eat pray love
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is an origin story is a refreshing
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addition to almost any any any Hall of
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my T's I think that's iron fist actually
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i also have to give special attention to
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the antiserum and forces because they're
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five arguments were both compelling and
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factually true again my love of Superman
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is well-documented I think he represents
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a lot of the best of both the DC
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Universe and and the best of what we can
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strive for us human beings
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however the case against him was
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skillfully constructed and I desperately
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want to see eat pray love make it to the
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finals so I'm finding for dr. strange
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child big big moment here potentially
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chip what are your thoughts Superman and
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dr. strange well you would think the
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answer would be obvious
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thank you your honor dan has dan has put
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together a skillful argument i concur
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with uh with judge miser on that point
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are even on top of that Superman both
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pre-crisis and after the crisis was
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frequently written as vulnerable to
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so you think that dr. strange would
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actually just snap his fingers and
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Superman would vanish in a puff of logic
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but Monty reminded us that dr. strange
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will be played by Benedict Cumberbatch
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who my wife thinks is hot i find for
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Superman that throws it to me again
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mhm i have no great love for dr. strange
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or more magician superheroes in general
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but I i am going to cite an argument
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made earlier bye-bye advocate mo is in a
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different context here which is Superman
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he's dumb he's
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boring i rule for Doctor Strange slow
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Your Honor I think you did a great thing
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for all mankind I already said I like
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the flash better than other DC heroes
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this this is a night a night full of
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upset mmm yes it's very exciting
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compaq yes and Monty you might be quite
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right to point out that was the you
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complete you play the dumb name card how
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are you doing for Superman
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hey they started with a draft of strong
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guy and had to work their way on here
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you know attention and strong guy was an
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improvement on car lifter amazing
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amazing things are happening again which
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is just a guy named Jack Tony yeah lot
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of lifting a lot of writing work there
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so all right let's move on to a matchup
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it is number two seed captain america
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who is going to be champion by Monty vs.
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a number 11 seed beta ray bill who's
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going to be championed by moes yeah
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that's right it's worth or I hope chip
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can Kenda view this without recusing
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himself Mo's you get to argue for a big
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underdog beta ray bill and against
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Captain America
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why do you hate America go ahead well I
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mean you kind of set things American I
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mean it's done lightly it's true for me
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but I'm willing to come out of that
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because you don't if funny thing you
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mentioned i just recently watched age of
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Ultron and there was a man named vision
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who picked up the Thor's hammer which
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seemed to be pretty a pretty big deal
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and the whole thing there's only one of
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the person in fact vision is never
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actually done that that was movie
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stuffed will call that there's only one
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other person that as a person alien a
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beta ray bill who who was i quote worthy
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to hold
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Thor's hammer
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and odin was the one who kind of team
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that now we're dealing with God's
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mysteries and things that nature at its
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there was another uh situation in the
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age of Ultron you know everybody had
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sins or things that they were afraid of
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but this guy captain america
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it's very interesting to me because he
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didn't have in fact he only wanted to do
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is dance with his girl I find that very
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interesting that a guy a mortal man if
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you will and without kind of throwing
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too much religion into the whole mix
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seems to have no sins
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there was only one guy that I've I'm
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aware of that never had that but he was
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rings can I crawled my apologize i think
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that's a really are Jesus and Reed
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Richards mixed up again I'm sorry that's
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right that's what you're going to see
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how that might happen Richard himself
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until it happens all the time
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absolutely and in fact I would say that
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Captain America I look at this nation
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and I say to myself
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twenty percent Donald Trump well you
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know you know captain america did a
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great thing back in the day I mean look
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in fact we're all believe that he killed
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Hitler what you really done for us
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capitalism is that really what were
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striving for and that's really against
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the people cap or you really for
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I rest my case interesting intriguing
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question we're gonna leave it out there
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Monty what do you say well your honor
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you and honor are you just a bailiff I
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am I am as poetry bail I as host I am
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honorable to an extent it can ask the
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bailiff to describe the contents of the
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jpeg that I just entered into the record
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yes so i can describe this for the
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listeners who cannot check in the show
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notes for this excellent piece of work
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it is Captain America holding Thor's
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hammer above his head shouting Avengers
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Assemble while being looked upon by
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passers-by and heroes who are nearby as
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well as apparently he's about to be
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attacked by Nazi robots
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thank you i checked i have checked on
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whether this is well there have been
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many inches and its role in the
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background and just now you're gonna
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bring that up
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well well you have had time to do your
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research you said that only one person
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has been able to lift Thor's hammer and
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I just wanted to put on the record the
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fact that captain america has in fact
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with to Thor's hammer twice and
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continuity but that is not the essence
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of my argument the essence of my
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argument as I consider captain america
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beyond reproach will focus on my honored
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opponent beta ray bill is basically
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defined by being almost as good as Thor
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he's like a substituted ingredient in a
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recipe if you don't have Thor you can
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use beta ray bill and you can put them
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out below they're saying it'll basically
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be fine
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he's nearly Thor he's liam hemsworth oh
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zing is not terrible but his first name
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is literally beta the novelty of being a
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hammer-wielding space horse can take you
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only so far
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and honorable judges i submit that this
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round is where beta ray bills journey
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has to end
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thank you for your time alright we are
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going to start with Lisa here
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well i'll keep this very very very brief
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in terms of who ranks above whom in the
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comic index there is a beta ray bill who
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again has the head of a horse i also
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want to draw his attention to Bill known
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as Starfighter in the wonderful comic
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god hates astronauts who has the head of
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a supernatural cow so even in the genre
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of butt-kicking superheroes with the
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head of livestock beta ray bill doesn't
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match how you doing bill
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yes named Bill get it i want i want to
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add to we're not quite two three because
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R cubed through hands-on with to you
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merely have two examples but but even in
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this contest battery bill losses also
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you can't argue with the dude is
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wielding a hammer and fighting not zero
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but at the same time I find for Captain
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America chip unfamiliar as i am with
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beta ray bill it would take a while to
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get to catch you up
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i think the the phrase his first name is
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literally beta is one of the most
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masterful things I have ever heard on a
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podcast haha I you know after after he
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after hearing that any other words no
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longer have meaning i can't rule against
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Captain America I would be ruling
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against myself chip is Captain America
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ok yes the mirrorless Marlys alright so
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I'm hearing a two-nothing verdict for
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Captain America what the lesson we
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learned here is being not as boring as
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Thor can only go so far and this is the
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point where beta ray bill gets off the
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the treadmill but well well flat or
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store well-fought let us move on to our
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next round it is going to be number two
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seed Wonder Woman versus number six seed
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Barbara Gordon known as bad girl and
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oracle tony is the advocate for wonder
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woman hello
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what do I need to say to ask any
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questions of the judges about whether
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they need to with it whether they can be
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impartial in this situation I would
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actually turkeys myself from this really
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wow GG quick about it
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that is a lot i'll allow it all out i
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have i have a tiebreaking i have a
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tiebreaking system in place should
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should it's a coin it's a client is
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judging excuse themselves ship and I
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disagree your honor how can we have
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wonder woman vs. Batgirl and have the
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only woman on the panel not participate
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this whole trial is a farce
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i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i actually perhaps
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you can't choose between them
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I is Lisa if you which if you choose to
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abstain how about this i would like you
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to make a statement at the end and then
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if you choose to abstain then you may do
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alright alright alright so Monty you are
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going for Barbara Gordon Tony you're
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arguing for Wonder Woman Monty Barbara
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Gordon's the number six seed one number
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two so you were the underdog you may go
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first all right now it should go without
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saying that i have nothing but the
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utmost respect for his woman I believe
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that she was a princess surf sometimes
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she's a princess
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sometimes she's a goddess sometimes
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she's been literally molded out of clay
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the thing is one woman's background is
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constantly changing to the point where
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she's not the same character as she was
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when she was first created and that's
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good because i'm going to put this
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delicately Wonder Woman's early comic
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books are kind of not for kids they were
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created by a world class weirdo who's
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personal obsessions are right there on
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every single page and they say that
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Wonder Woman is one of the three pillars
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of DC Comics you got Superman Batman and
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Wonder Woman but the Wonder Woman we
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have now they have carefully removed all
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of the goofy nonsense that she used to
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she's not from Paradise Island anymore
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she's from the mascara her bracelets i'm
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pretty sure are not made of a metal
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called feminine um
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anymore but that at least I hope they're
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not if it thinks it is also from
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Amazonia at one point hmm wonder woman
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although she has put forth as a good
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role model for young girls
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he really isn't not like Barbara Gordon
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the butt-kicking librarian and finally i
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will remind the judges that yvonne craig
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passed away very recently and a lovely
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way to honor her memory would be to
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honor that girl / oracle / Barbara
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Gordon and put her through the next
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thanks pulling out all the stops and
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there will be wine that's how i got Tony
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it's your turn my opponent has already
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pointed out that Wonder Woman is is part
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of the Holy Trinity that you know has
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guided comics to where they are today
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you know that girl has done a lot of a
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lot of good work for the bat
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Organization and I don't want to
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underplay that but you know I she
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probably only got that job because of
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her dad is you know there's some
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nepotism at work there this may not have
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been the most qualified candidate for
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that position and you know sometimes the
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bat bureaucracy just keeps expanding and
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there's back jobs and you you take on
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who you need and it's you know it's kind
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of the peter principle at work here also
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you know I i think that the the recent
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versions of a batgirl are actually has
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become somewhat of a ridiculous hipster
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that makes even me feel too old to be
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reading those comics you know she's done
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a lot of good good work for the the bat
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agency over the years but i think
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perhaps it you know she should take some
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time off from superheroing and focus on
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her studies
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the end the end thank you okay well i'm
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gonna go to chip for his his thoughts
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and ruling yvonne craig was a lovely
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yvonne craig brought spandex to Batman
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the the Batman TV show in and in
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appealing in an appealing way how can i
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how can i turn my back on Monty's
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stirring recollections of her gifts and
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talents and her memory by voting for
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Wonder Woman pretty easily over Wonder
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Woman alright Lisa what are your
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thoughts
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like I said I'm recusing myself from
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this one the reason being that I am an
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unapologetic and unashamed Barbara
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Gordon / oracle fangirl and I don't
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trust myself to be impartial on this
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issue i have past history with oracle
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advocate Gail Simone's wonderful
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rehabilitation of the character and the
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birds of prey series that every thought
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every opportunity and do this lengthy
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history i cannot issue a ruling in this
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well this is a very difficult one for me
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as well I i am married to a librarian my
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wife also was a childhood fan of of
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Wonder Woman and we have Wonder Woman
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memorabilia in the house so how to
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choose between these two characters i
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don't know this is this is the most
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supremely difficult battle i think that
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that we're going to face I in the end i
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think i have to rule over this way yes
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Wonder Woman's history is a is peculiar
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although her her creator is I think I
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wouldn't get too judgmental about her
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creator he was certainly lead an
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interesting life but he created a
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character that has resonated for years
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in many different guises what what is to
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be said for Batgirl
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and oracle for Barbara Gordon is
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somebody who is introduced as the kid
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sidekick and the girl sidekick which is
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not necessarily a position of strength
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has it she has been transmogrified into
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something bigger and better showing the
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versatility of the writers and I think
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that's to be commended
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but in the end I like chip i think i
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have to lean ever so slightly toward
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Wonder Woman for being uh more fully
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formed from the beginning and and sadly
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have to say that Barbara Gordon has
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passed as far as she can go so wonder
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woman moves on to the next round
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just justice is difficult work it is
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difficult that was a tough one I
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actually was sending instant messages to
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Lauren that entire time saying please
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choose one for me and she's smart
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well because Babs is a library Babs is a
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librarian and there's that there's not
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tied to it and you know my own daughter
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has a has a set of boredom and pajamas
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that she absolutely adores and to be
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honest because they don't make oracle
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pajamas a little girl sex that's a
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little dark
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oh yeah now I was actually thinking if
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we ever took her to a convention in
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cosplay I would dress up like background
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whenever put joker in a wheelchair like
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a little Joker doll in a wheelchair nice
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flip it around huh well if if dr.
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strange should get a cold or something
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it Barbara Gordon isn't available to
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fight battles later I like that idea
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she's an alternate how about that sounds
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good to me I'd never move on to be final
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matchup of the night it's the one that
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the people who looked ahead in the
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bracket thought was a possible but
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highly unlikely match up and yet it has
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come to pass through sheer luck i'm
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going to say sheer luck it is the
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matchup that everybody demanded and now
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it is finally here
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you know it you wanted it and now you
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get to hear Dan more'n advocating for
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Marvel's moon night against Tony
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sindelar who is arguing for DC Comics
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the Batman was that dan please tell us
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about why moon night is great
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that man is no good no good luck buddy
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alright so
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I i know this is this seems like an
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uphill climb it seems like a tough row
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to hoe here and and I know exactly what
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my my esteemed opponent is gonna tell
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you he's Batman and that may be true but
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i think what we need to look at is the
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fact here that it's incontrovertible
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that Batman is just a terrible moon
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night rip off because another night
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dates back to ancient Egyptian god this
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power on various sort of worthy vessels
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and in that sense
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Batman is simply a modern-day invention
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of some guy who is a rich playboy and
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yeah I had a tough upbringing but really
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just decided that instead of using his
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millions to help the poor people of
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Gotham City that he would dress up like
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a bat and beat the crap out of criminals
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this is the guy was a butler right in
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the evening we talked a little bit of
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Tony Stark being full of privilege but
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but Bruce Wayne is a poster boy for
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white male privilege i mean anybody else
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tried to dress up as a bat and beat up
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people they would just not go very far
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so I think that you know in some ways
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Batman is just a pale imitation of moon
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night I mean moon night is I think he
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shows a certain degree of ostentation
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listen and devil-may-care attitude that
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Batman doesn't sure Batman dresses up in
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dark clothes and goes around sneaks
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around we're not wears all white and
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runs around he is not afraid of being a
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target because he has you know the power
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of of good and righteousness and
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psychosis on his side so i think in in
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summation if I may present my case and
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in just a simple brief sentence he's
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moon night writer words never spoken
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ah Tony tell us about why but the Batman
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is so good and Moon Knight is so not
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I'd like to say earlier case love
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regarding he is Batman you do you are
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you referring to Batman or moon that
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would you make that stat I would like to
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establish that Batman is bad me okay
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uh-huh and just to make sure that there
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no can do you want adventure I am a
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hundred percent sure that Batman is
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Batman uh welcome to technology club
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um so just to just to dispel any
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potential confusion among our judges are
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listeners we all know that Batman was
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created in the thirties and midnight is
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created in the seventies which I think
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my opponent will have to concede happens
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after the 30 pretty awesome decade
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though eighteen seventies you mean ya
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yes actually before nineteen thirties
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but nice try with your lies and
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flim-flam moon night there's really not
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a lot i can say to impeach moon night
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because nobody knows who he is because
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he is literally just Marvel's
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watered-down Batman and you know what
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tonight is pretty awesome he is a really
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cool underappreciated Marvel hero and if
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you know you're somewhere and you can't
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get Batman you know maybe maybe this
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will carry over until you get to your
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next Batman installment butBut moon
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night is just he's just imitation Batman
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he store-brand Batman except no
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substitutions alright let's go to leave
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her for her judgment
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this is a difficult one because no it's
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no comments from the peanut gallery
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that's not Ella the one hand the input
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the first really wants me to sing them
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like moonlight take it all the way for
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good again often mistaken as moon.white
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I have a very about courtrooms they need
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an agent of chaos driver let you think
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about justice
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I want to just think about well just as
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it's coming in for other alright
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continue Lisa you for the immediate
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briefs but the truth of the matter is a
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crazy dude who may or may not be
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multiple personalities one of which may
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or may not be an ancient Egyptian
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divinity is sorely boiler he's not he
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just won't do not cast aspersions it
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simply know this whole round is about as
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casting argument said closed oversleep
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we got you gotta be careful we start we
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start exploring the mental health of our
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clients and I had
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that's a that's a dark road nobody wins
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then that's just 0 is nobody vs no way
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for the final round that eat the thing
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is if Barry Allen is the heart of the DC
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Universe you could argue that Batman is
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kind of the dysfunctional mom who keeps
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them all together inside I was really
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hoping to fit all the salt very heart
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and and that means that's there
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and and that means that's there
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I know hereby hard you know because you
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think about this and and Batman has has
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helped a half dozen people in the DC nor
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springboard into their own place in the
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in the superhero pantheon
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he is arguably the greatest detective in
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the DC Universe he keeps Superman honest
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and on his toes and for Superman to
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confront his construction of humanity
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even as he is super and is that how he
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did well now look the dress code aside e
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Batman brings everyone else together
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either because they're terrified of him
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or they can't figure out where they want
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to work with him but he's something
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everybody in the DC Universe in common
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and he's got like the coolest rogue's
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gallery ever so I'm gonna find for
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Batman alright Batman gets a vote from
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lee so judge Jim judge it whatever the
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audacity of advocate morons argument it
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moves me I I I was like God give me a
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reason to vote for moon night and I got
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several and then Dan said that Batman is
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a pale imitation of moon night Dan
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Batman is a pale imitation of moonlight
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what color is badass cost you up
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dark light gray no dark defending that
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depends on your version did well your
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night likely great yeah what color the
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19 Knights costume it's impossible to be
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sure haha not no one has ever really
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seen him
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why does not really ignore your honor I
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believe the color is pale imitation is
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that what you're asking
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it is indeed I 54 Batman alright well
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Oh pale imitation is a great paint color
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for kitchen to see you know if any man
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that can roll around in like a pilot
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suit or something and pretend to be
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Batman in the next round
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unfortunately been doing forever we're
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checking IDs and he won't be allowed
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through so bad man moves along to the
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next round and and with that we have cut
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our number of heroes from 16 to 28 the
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remaining heroes in our in our
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tournament our number-one seed
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spider-man number two seed captain
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america that went according to plan
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number one seed a let's see what number
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one seed Batman number two seed one
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woman that also went according to plan
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then we have number five seed Doctor
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Strange up against number three seed the
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flash number 12 seed cinderella story
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the thing Ben Graham going up against
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number two seed Wolverine those are the
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eight heroes who remain in our ultimate
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quest to discover something that we're
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not sure about about superheroes I and
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we will resolve all of the rest of this
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tournament in one final edition of the
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incomparable home please let it be only
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one final edition and comfortable summer
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superhero tournament in in a few weeks
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when you have a one-hour episode that's
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just the final one on one will be a
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radio drama i want to sit there any
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popcorn
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yeah well we'll see you around both the
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advocates will just be shouting at each
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yeah stop shouting first loses still
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have some will have some very exciting
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space fire coming up there but until
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then I want to thank our are advocates
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Monty Ashley thank you for being here
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thank you Jason
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sorry Superman voices too jaan thank you
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for being here thank you very much for
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having me what I do isn't very nice but
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I'm I'm the best there is at what it is
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whatever that is a job offering Mo's
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philipose black thank you so much for
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being here it's a pleasure and I i try
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to do the people's will appreciate it
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Tony sindelar thank you for fighting the
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good fight I will always fight the good
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fight as long as I don't have to fight
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Batman also you were three and out
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tonight so congratulations on that I
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cheat to win and Dan Morgan thank you
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for that driver
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alright that way I think you're thinking
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of batman forever just a film would not
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have gotten one night that they're in
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there have been way more bad Batman
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films in bad moon night fell we have you
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seen the area that the fan recut of the
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Batman movies to feature moon night
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they're done by dan and his brother
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and I'd like to think the doing the hard
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job of being our judges chips under
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thank you
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we should start calling this loss go to
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scare and research miser thank you thank
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you it's a pleasure and everybody out
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there thank you for putting up with us
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this is ridiculous we know but we also
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think it's kind of fun and we will be
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back with a regular episode next weekend
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yes the threat of more superhero
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tournament is out there in a few weeks
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until then thanks for listening
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