Connected

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00:00:06 ◼   ► From Relay FM, this is Connected, episode number 61.

00:00:11 ◼   ► Today's show is brought to you by Igloo, an internet you'll actually like.

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00:00:21 ◼   ► My name is Myke Hurley and I'm joined by Mrs. Stephen Hackett.

00:00:24 ◼   ► Hey Myke.

00:00:26 ◼   ► How you doing?

00:00:26 ◼   ► I'm doing well, how are you this morning?

00:00:29 ◼   ► I am very well indeed and I also have Mr Federico Vittucci with me here as always.

00:00:33 ◼   ► Hello Federico.

00:00:34 ◼   ► Hey guys.

00:00:37 ◼   ► Big day today. Lots to talk about on the show docket today.

00:00:40 ◼   ► Well, if you use a Mac, I guess it is a big day.

00:00:44 ◼   ► Big day for Mac users, huh?

00:00:46 ◼   ► Well, it's strange to consider

00:00:50 ◼   ► that just a few years ago I used to be very excited about days like this.

00:00:54 ◼   ► Now I just, you know, I just sit back and read what people have to say about

00:00:59 ◼   ► Mac updates, OS X stuff.

00:01:01 ◼   ► It's different, it's strange, you know?

00:01:04 ◼   ► I should probably change the name of my website.

00:01:08 ◼   ► - Have you ever genuinely thought about doing that?

00:01:12 ◼   ► - I have thought about that.

00:01:14 ◼   ► And usually my conclusion has been,

00:01:16 ◼   ► I gotta leave the name as it is,

00:01:18 ◼   ► mostly as a reminder of where I come from.

00:01:21 ◼   ► But I guess at some point I will have to consider

00:01:23 ◼   ► this option more seriously, you know?

00:01:25 ◼   ► - I think it's one of those things though,

00:01:27 ◼   ► where when a name is around for such a long time,

00:01:32 ◼   ► you disassociate the original thought of the name

00:01:36 ◼   ► and just associate it with what it is.

00:01:38 ◼   ► Like when I read Mac stories,

00:01:40 ◼   ► I just know what Mac stories is.

00:01:42 ◼   ► I don't think it's stories about Macs.

00:01:45 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:01:45 ◼   ► - Do you know what I mean?

00:01:46 ◼   ► - Yeah, I'm just wondering, you know,

00:01:48 ◼   ► to the user coming from Google search,

00:01:51 ◼   ► what does it look like?

00:01:52 ◼   ► You know, you find a website called Mac stories,

00:01:54 ◼   ► but it's mostly about iOS stuff.

00:01:57 ◼   ► You still talk about Mac stuff. I think if you got rid of it, you know

00:02:01 ◼   ► And also I think there's a universal acceptance among people that Mac means Apple

00:02:05 ◼   ► True. So you have websites like MacRumors, 9to5Mac

00:02:10 ◼   ► I mean Apple news is mostly about iOS devices these days, but these websites, you know

00:02:15 ◼   ► They were born in an age where the Mac was the dominant device and now it's mostly iOS

00:02:21 ◼   ► But still people associate, you know Apple with the Mac

00:02:24 ◼   ► So I think it'll continue to make sense for at least a few years.

00:02:29 ◼   ► And again, I like to look at the name and think about my evolution in terms of Apple device usage and my relationship with the Apple technology.

00:02:40 ◼   ► So if only from a personal perspective to see what it used to be and what it is now, it still makes sense to me.

00:02:49 ◼   ► Maybe one day, you know, the Mac as a word, it won't make sense anymore, but

00:02:56 ◼   ► that's not a problem to discuss today.

00:02:58 ◼   ► I think you'd have to go so far different. Like, you'd have to give it a

00:03:02 ◼   ► completely new name, like "nothing like Mac Stories" because there isn't really

00:03:06 ◼   ► another nice sounding name for it, I think.

00:03:09 ◼   ► "iPad Stories" doesn't sound good. Plus, I don't want to limit myself to the...

00:03:15 ◼   ► As you said, Mac is mostly general as an Apple-like term.

00:03:20 ◼   ► I know a lot of people who just still say Macintosh

00:03:26 ◼   ► in Italy just to mean whatever Apple makes,

00:03:30 ◼   ► the Macintosh company to a lot of people.

00:03:32 ◼   ► So I think I'm still good in terms of website name.

00:03:37 ◼   ► - Man, that was a divergence.

00:03:40 ◼   ► - No, I think you've done better going with Mac

00:03:43 ◼   ► than putting a lowercase I in front of it.

00:03:45 ◼   ► That has aged out pretty badly, I think.

00:03:47 ◼   ► Yeah, interestingly, the Mac name there hasn't aged as quickly as the "i" did.

00:03:54 ◼   ► Yeah, true.

00:03:56 ◼   ► Should I call it "Apple Stories"?

00:03:59 ◼   ► Oh yeah, cool.

00:04:01 ◼   ► I think you would definitely get sued for that.

00:04:04 ◼   ► Yeah, and that's coming from you and I who have "i"s in the beginning of our Twitter handles

00:04:09 ◼   ► for that reason.

00:04:10 ◼   ► Yeah, I don't even think of it like that anymore.

00:04:14 ◼   ► But I really wish it wasn't this way.

00:04:16 ◼   ► I really, really wish it was just Myke.

00:04:20 ◼   ► Or anything, really.

00:04:20 ◼   ► - Change it out with a little you with the oomat over it.

00:04:24 ◼   ► - German. - German.

00:04:25 ◼   ► - I do actually own, I believe still, @MykeHurley.

00:04:29 ◼   ► And I've considered many times to change it,

00:04:32 ◼   ► but at this point, it's my personal brand, you know?

00:04:35 ◼   ► - Yeah, I was gonna say, it's your person,

00:04:37 ◼   ► it's what, people call you iMyke, like on shows, so.

00:04:41 ◼   ► - Yeah. - So I kinda just,

00:04:42 ◼   ► There's nothing I can do about it.

00:04:44 ◼   ► Steven, let's do some follow up.

00:04:47 ◼   ► - Yeah, so you guys ruined follow up this week

00:04:49 ◼   ► by suggesting that people tweet at me

00:04:53 ◼   ► and give us things for Federico to say in other languages.

00:04:57 ◼   ► - I wouldn't say ruined it.

00:04:58 ◼   ► - And I hope that someone looked at these

00:05:03 ◼   ► and that Federico's not gonna be swearing

00:05:05 ◼   ► at a whole region of humanity.

00:05:08 ◼   ► - Yeah, I'm sorry if I do.

00:05:10 ◼   ► - Yeah, we have some examples here.

00:05:12 ◼   ► I think we're gonna do three of them.

00:05:13 ◼   ► So Federico, I'm just gonna turn this over to you

00:05:17 ◼   ► and let you just have that.

00:05:20 ◼   ► Now, before we start, have you practiced?

00:05:22 ◼   ► Have you looked at these?

00:05:23 ◼   ► - Not at all. - Or just--

00:05:24 ◼   ► - Nope. - Perfect.

00:05:25 ◼   ► - It needs to be a genuine interpretation.

00:05:29 ◼   ► I didn't look it up.

00:05:31 ◼   ► I didn't use Google Translate,

00:05:32 ◼   ► you know, the little microphone icon that lets you,

00:05:35 ◼   ► actually the little audio icon

00:05:36 ◼   ► that lets you listen to the translation.

00:05:38 ◼   ► So I have no idea what I'm about to say.

00:05:40 ◼   ► I have no idea about the pronunciation,

00:05:43 ◼   ► so let's just go for it.

00:05:45 ◼   ► Patrick Rosenholm on Twitter says,

00:05:48 ◼   ► "Please make Vitici read."

00:05:51 ◼   ► Okay, so this is Swedish.

00:05:52 ◼   ► It means, "Hi, how are you?"

00:05:55 ◼   ► And it's, "Hey,

00:05:57 ◼   ► "hur har laget."

00:06:00 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:06:02 ◼   ► - That is so terrible.

00:06:04 ◼   ► I don't know why it's bad, I just know it's wrong.

00:06:07 ◼   ► - Hur har laget, Myke.

00:06:10 ◼   ► Yep, yeah, who'd I hug it to you too, my friend.

00:06:14 ◼   ► The second one is Wally Kirkaboom.

00:06:17 ◼   ► Oh nice last name.

00:06:18 ◼   ► What a name!

00:06:19 ◼   ► Kirkaboom!

00:06:20 ◼   ► Wow!

00:06:21 ◼   ► This guy's a boss.

00:06:22 ◼   ► My name is Mr. Kirkaboom.

00:06:24 ◼   ► I like it.

00:06:26 ◼   ► So second tweet, please get Federico to say, in his best Dutch, Dutch are great people,

00:06:33 ◼   ► you know.

00:06:34 ◼   ► I don't know what it means, but it's Scheveningen.

00:06:38 ◼   ► Sounds like Scheveningen.

00:06:40 ◼   ► It's one of the eight districts of The Hague as well as a sub-district of that city.

00:06:45 ◼   ► Got to say, Schwanenkrein. Schwanenkrein.

00:06:48 ◼   ► Did you just know that or did you look it up?

00:06:49 ◼   ► No, I just know it. I'm very well versed in these things these days.

00:06:52 ◼   ► That's impressive.

00:06:53 ◼   ► So the next one is, I would say, Riles, but because it's a French person, maybe it's Rille.

00:07:00 ◼   ► It's like Rille in French.

00:07:02 ◼   ► Yep, this is our French interpretation of ourselves.

00:07:05 ◼   ► really um so i gotta say um salut oh man i'm trying to read this in english uh saluto shona

00:07:17 ◼   ► mesa me the montreal oh that's beautiful i don't care if that was wrong sorry i guess it means uh

00:07:25 ◼   ► hi to my friends from montreal i guess that's what it means that's me in italian would be

00:07:32 ◼   ► "iméa michi" "més amis" in French, I guess.

00:07:36 ◼   ► So that's about it.

00:07:37 ◼   ► Keep sending tweets to ISMH on Twitter if you have any requests for translation to make

00:07:44 ◼   ► connected, always on, worldwide.

00:07:48 ◼   ► That's what we do.

00:07:49 ◼   ► We say hi, probably swear in other languages, but please don't get upset.

00:07:55 ◼   ► I checked them out and they seem pretty good.

00:07:57 ◼   ► - Unless Wally Kirkaboom is a,

00:08:00 ◼   ► that's like some kind of hidden swear word.

00:08:04 ◼   ► I kind of hope it is.

00:08:06 ◼   ► - Not a real name, but like a joke.

00:08:08 ◼   ► When I worked at the Apple store,

00:08:12 ◼   ► sometimes the closing shift we would do,

00:08:16 ◼   ► this is so terrible, we would do fake appointments

00:08:18 ◼   ► in like the last couple slots

00:08:19 ◼   ► so we could get to our closing stuff early,

00:08:21 ◼   ► and we always did like sort of jokey names.

00:08:24 ◼   ► And then our manager caught on,

00:08:27 ◼   ► and then we just made up names that sounded real

00:08:29 ◼   ► but were indeed fake people.

00:08:30 ◼   ► It was great.

00:08:31 ◼   ► - Nice work.

00:08:32 ◼   ► - I apologize to anyone who tried to make an appointment

00:08:34 ◼   ► and couldn't.

00:08:35 ◼   ► We have, moving on, we have a question from Mayock, Mayock,

00:08:41 ◼   ► to revisit iCloud Photo Library.

00:08:48 ◼   ► So we talked about this a while back,

00:08:50 ◼   ► we haven't really talked about it since.

00:08:52 ◼   ► Just wanted to check in and see who of the three of us

00:08:55 ◼   ► using it and then is the performance better on iOS 9 than it was on iOS 8.

00:09:00 ◼   ► On iOS 8 you'd go to like the photo picker and Instagram or something and your phone

00:09:04 ◼   ► would just sit there and kind of like think for a while and then let you select an image.

00:09:10 ◼   ► So I'm not using it.

00:09:12 ◼   ► I'm still using my Dropbox finder system.

00:09:14 ◼   ► I keep being drawn to photos.

00:09:17 ◼   ► I feel like I might end up there at some point again but for now I'm still in Dropbox and

00:09:21 ◼   ► finder.

00:09:22 ◼   ► What about you Federico?

00:09:24 ◼   ► I'm still using it every day and in fact it's gotten better with iOS 9.

00:09:29 ◼   ► It's faster and more importantly it shows what's uploading and how many megabytes or

00:09:35 ◼   ► you know kilobytes if it's just a selfie is uploading to the cloud at the bottom of the

00:09:40 ◼   ► Photos app there's like a percentage of completion and I'm using it every day.

00:09:45 ◼   ► It was a fantastic experience when setting up this iPhone 6s that I bought last week.

00:09:49 ◼   ► I just signed into my iCloud account and in just a couple of hours he pulled down all

00:09:54 ◼   ► my photos and videos. I love that I haven't been thinking about photos at all for the

00:10:01 ◼   ► past few months. I just take a picture and it's there in the Photos app, it's in iCloud

00:10:07 ◼   ► and I'm very happy. I'm paying for iCloud, my storage has increased because of recent

00:10:12 ◼   ► changes and in fact I'm convincing all of my closest friends to switch to iCloud. I

00:10:19 ◼   ► told you this, I'm kind of evangelizing iCloud for the library to people. It's very nice

00:10:24 ◼   ► experience, not thinking about photo management anymore, it's just in iCloud.

00:10:28 ◼   ► The only friction point for me at this point is that regularly I need to go through my

00:10:33 ◼   ► photo library and delete screenshots and I know that there's a few apps, in fact I use

00:10:38 ◼   ► some of those to get rid of screenshots, I use Screeny which is an iOS app that lets

00:10:42 ◼   ► me delete iPhone and iPad screenshots, so you can imagine for the website I get quite

00:10:47 ◼   ► a few screenshots in my library because of app reviews and that kind of stuff.

00:10:51 ◼   ► The problem is these apps tend to always miss some images.

00:10:56 ◼   ► If the resolution doesn't match, if maybe I work on a screenshot and I crop it and the

00:11:00 ◼   ► resolution changes, the app cannot find it anymore.

00:11:03 ◼   ► So the only management that I'm doing is going through my phone library and deleting these

00:11:07 ◼   ► kind of images I don't want to keep.

00:11:10 ◼   ► But for everything else it's faster.

00:11:12 ◼   ► I like that I see progress at the bottom of the app.

00:11:15 ◼   ► And yeah, I'm a happy customer.

00:11:18 ◼   ► Cool.

00:11:20 ◼   ► about you Myke? So unbeknownst to me I only just turned on iCloud

00:11:26 ◼   ► Photo Library like two weeks ago. I didn't know it was on. I'm not really

00:11:31 ◼   ► sure. So what I thought was iCloud Photo Library was actually just photo stream

00:11:36 ◼   ► right? I didn't know I just assumed it was on or maybe I had it on and turned

00:11:44 ◼   ► it off or something happened. When I upgraded my iCloud storage I put more

00:11:49 ◼   ► storage in. I was in there I was like "oh it's not on, I'll turn it on now" and it's

00:11:54 ◼   ► fine. I mean I have no obviously no comments because I had nothing to compare it to

00:11:57 ◼   ► because I wasn't using it before. I like that I can very quickly grab a photo on

00:12:02 ◼   ► my Mac, you know, like I took a screenshot or something and then I can just grab it

00:12:06 ◼   ► on my Mac. That's been very useful for me and also the the Photos app has been

00:12:11 ◼   ► good to help me find some photos recently like I'm putting together this

00:12:15 ◼   ► talk at the moment I needed some pictures for a presentation and I was

00:12:18 ◼   ► able to just find them by searching right which was you know I can search

00:12:22 ◼   ► like San Francisco and it gives me what I need so that I mean that was totally

00:12:26 ◼   ► fine aside from that I don't really have much to say which is probably good

00:12:30 ◼   ► because it means that this is getting out my way and let me do whatever I need

00:12:33 ◼   ► to do but I'm not really using the photos app and I haven't imported all

00:12:37 ◼   ► of the pictures that I have in Dropbox yet maybe at some point I will but I

00:12:41 ◼   ► don't need to do that right now and I'm waiting until I'm at a scenario where my

00:12:45 ◼   ► internet connection is faster so I don't have to upload them over my LTU hotspot

00:12:49 ◼   ► because that would suck. Two points Myke. First one, it is super confusing to me

00:12:56 ◼   ► that if you go into settings, photos and camera, there's still this bunch of

00:12:59 ◼   ► options like legacy options for photo stream. I don't understand why there's

00:13:04 ◼   ► both iCloud photo library and photo stream. I think if you turn on iCloud photo

00:13:08 ◼   ► library the photo stream stuff should just go away. No, the setting is

00:13:13 ◼   ► there just turned off. My feeling is it should just go, everything related to photo stream

00:13:19 ◼   ► should disappear from your settings I think. That's what it should be. Maybe it's too much

00:13:24 ◼   ► for me, I still don't understand the purpose of photo stream when I have the iCloud library.

00:13:28 ◼   ► Anyway, the second point is, it's quite interesting to me the 3D touch menu that Apple added to

00:13:35 ◼   ► the photos app in the home screen. So you can 3D touch the icon and you get the most

00:13:40 ◼   ► recent shortcut, so it brings you to the latest photos, favorites, one year ago and search.

00:13:46 ◼   ► And one year ago is interesting because it's not a feature of the Photos app, it's a search

00:13:51 ◼   ► filter, so you can look for photos taken around the same time last year. And it's interesting

00:13:58 ◼   ► to me that Apple isn't taking you to a specific section of the app, just a feature that's

00:14:03 ◼   ► possible if you search in the right way. And I guess it kinda suggests that people don't

00:14:09 ◼   ► really know that they can search for photos but one year ago makes for a, you know, the

00:14:15 ◼   ► kind of filter that's easy to understand, it's right there, you don't need to open the

00:14:19 ◼   ► app and type "one year ago", you can just 3D touch the icon and it brings you to, you

00:14:25 ◼   ► know, this kind of like a diary that lets you view old memories and stuff and this used

00:14:29 ◼   ► to be one of my favorite features of Everpix, Picture Life, gosh, remember those services?

00:14:35 ◼   ► Now it's right there in the Photos app.

00:14:37 ◼   ► It doesn't show you just photos from the same day, so it kind of takes you around the same

00:14:43 ◼   ► period from last year, but it's been useful to me, you know, to find all photos taken

00:14:49 ◼   ► in the same period.

00:14:50 ◼   ► Right now it's showing me photos from October 11th to October 15th from last year, so I

00:14:56 ◼   ► guess it pulls, you know, like a week, I don't know.

00:14:59 ◼   ► It's useful and it's interesting that they're using these in the home screen, I think.

00:15:05 ◼   ► So there you go.

00:15:06 ◼   ► Yep.

00:15:07 ◼   ► So that's photo stuff.

00:15:09 ◼   ► We had a lot of people write in and tweet about control center customization, and Federica

00:15:16 ◼   ► I think you had some thoughts on that.

00:15:18 ◼   ► Yeah, I mean I saw this on Twitter.

00:15:21 ◼   ► A lot of people saying you should be able to use 3D Touch to customize or at least have

00:15:26 ◼   ► more menus or more toggles in the control center when you press firmly on the display.

00:15:32 ◼   ► And I agree.

00:15:33 ◼   ► I think for all the customization that Apple is now doing across iOS and watchOS, Control

00:15:39 ◼   ► Center, the idea is you should be able to access commonly used settings real quickly,

00:15:45 ◼   ► but these settings are not the same for everyone.

00:15:50 ◼   ► Perhaps I want to have the flashlight and I want to have the rotation lock, maybe someone

00:15:54 ◼   ► else wants to have quick access to another specific setting for personal hotspot or cellular

00:15:59 ◼   ► data or they want to turn some accessibility option on and off.

00:16:05 ◼   ► I wouldn't be surprised or at least I'm hopeful that in iOS 10 you will be able to say I want

00:16:11 ◼   ► to have access to this menu or at least let me press with 3D touch on an icon to have

00:16:16 ◼   ► an additional kind of nested menu.

00:16:19 ◼   ► So if I press on the rotation lock I can say, "Okay, I want to lock my device in portrait

00:16:24 ◼   ► mode but when there's a video just put the video in landscape because I prefer landscape."

00:16:29 ◼   ► So I think Control Center was a good idea with iOS 9, now it needs to be expanded and

00:16:33 ◼   ► maybe 3D Touch or, you know, there's still a settings screen in the Settings Control

00:16:38 ◼   ► Center, it's mostly empty.

00:16:41 ◼   ► They could use that screen, they could also use 3D Touch to customize the menus that are

00:16:45 ◼   ► shown, that's on my list for iOS 10 next year, but I don't want to think about, you know,

00:16:50 ◼   ► there's going to be iOS 10 next year because it needs another review and I just feel sick

00:16:54 ◼   ► if I think about another review at this point.

00:16:57 ◼   ► So it needs to be done.

00:16:59 ◼   ► Makila, why are you laughing, Myke?

00:17:05 ◼   ► I like the idea of you being already terrified about the fact that there's a review due next

00:17:11 ◼   ► year.

00:17:12 ◼   ► Yes, very much.

00:17:14 ◼   ► Just June next year, writing another review.

00:17:17 ◼   ► Oh my God.

00:17:19 ◼   ► Still I made a note in the document.

00:17:22 ◼   ► Imagine 3D touch for notifications too, like more actions, more menus.

00:17:27 ◼   ► I mean, 3D touch is clearly here to stay and they can only do more at this point, so control

00:17:33 ◼   ► center and notifications could be possible candidates for more menus, more options.

00:17:39 ◼   ► Power users love options, so give us options and we'll be happy.

00:17:42 ◼   ► It needs to be power users only, because otherwise iOS is going to get too confusing.

00:17:47 ◼   ► It's going to be like Windows 8 or something.

00:17:52 ◼   ► So I had a bunch of differing feedback about 3 and the feel at home service.

00:17:57 ◼   ► You remember last week we were talking about Arcaria situations and I mentioned that I

00:18:00 ◼   ► was looking to switch to 3 because they had unlimited data at a good price and I could

00:18:04 ◼   ► also use that data when overseas for free.

00:18:08 ◼   ► I have had so much feedback that is completely different in all regards.

00:18:14 ◼   ► People telling me that 3 is awesome, people telling me that 3 sucks, people telling me

00:18:18 ◼   ► that feel at home is awesome and people telling me that feel at home sucks. And I

00:18:22 ◼   ► think part of the problem is 3 are maybe if you're thinking in American terms a

00:18:26 ◼   ► little bit more like T-Mobile or Sprint. They don't have the best coverage

00:18:30 ◼   ► everywhere but where they have coverage it's good. So I was doing some tests at

00:18:35 ◼   ► the LTE speeds at home and I could get about 20 or 30 down over LTE on 3. But on

00:18:41 ◼   ► EE at the moment at home I can get 80 down which is just horrific.

00:18:47 ◼   ► Now my understanding is at some point over the next 12 months three are

00:18:53 ◼   ► going to get access to this new 800 megahertz spectrum which will increase

00:18:57 ◼   ► their speeds also. EE has always been at the front of the 4G stuff if you

00:19:01 ◼   ► remember way back probably in the prompt days I was talking about EE because they were the

00:19:06 ◼   ► first 4G carrier that we had. So I need to do some more testing, I need to do some more

00:19:11 ◼   ► testing at home, but the key thing that I'm going to do is I'm going to be in

00:19:15 ◼   ► America next week so I'm going to take my 3 SIM with me and see what I can get

00:19:18 ◼   ► because I need good speeds, I don't necessarily need LTE, but I need good

00:19:22 ◼   ► speeds and I also would like to be able to use tethering and I don't think I'll

00:19:27 ◼   ► be able to do that so I'm gonna give that some more tests and then I'll make

00:19:30 ◼   ► my decision if not I will cancel the plan in the first 30 days and try and

00:19:34 ◼   ► get my current carrier to give me a bit of a better deal. You should start a

00:19:40 ◼   ► carrier podcast. Talk about Spectrums, Megahertz, Giga-flops, that kind of stuff.

00:19:49 ◼   ► Each week just ends and the host just sort of sobbing into Skype quietly.

00:19:55 ◼   ► It's just one episode, you can't take it any longer. And you could just keep doing it every week because it will

00:20:02 ◼   ► never change right you just keep playing that same episode at week in week out

00:20:05 ◼   ► Ricardo wrote him with a good suggestion there was somebody nice accent Myke

00:20:11 ◼   ► well Ricardo is an Italian name also I'll do my best one he wrote him with a great

00:20:17 ◼   ► suggestion there was somebody who asked last week about getting a quick

00:20:20 ◼   ► dictionary definition in iOS and they suggested setting up a dictionary

00:20:26 ◼   ► definition in launch center Pro and then putting it behind the 3d touch menu so

00:20:31 ◼   ► So that's pretty good, so you just 3D touch, you hit the button, it will open up Launch

00:20:34 ◼   ► Center Pro, throw up a dialogue, you type in the word and it will go off and do a definition.

00:20:38 ◼   ► It's not necessarily the most elegant, but at least it's a quick way and it's somewhere

00:20:41 ◼   ► it will always be better on your home screen.

00:20:43 ◼   ► Are you guys using Launch Center Pro on your device?

00:20:47 ◼   ► Yes, but I pretty much, I mean I'm still deciding what I'm going to do with it long term with

00:20:54 ◼   ► the 3D touch stuff because I'm not sure it's that useful to me.

00:20:57 ◼   ► I've always used Launch Center Pro mainly as a launcher for Google Docs and

00:21:04 ◼   ► since they put this extension and so the Today widget in it has changed

00:21:09 ◼   ► everything for me. So I have all of the show documents in Launch Center Pro in

00:21:13 ◼   ► the Today extension and you tap it and it just directly opens the Google Doc.

00:21:18 ◼   ► It doesn't even open Launch Center Pro anymore. So or even the Google Drive app

00:21:23 ◼   ► because Google changed quietly their callback URL stuff and now you can

00:21:29 ◼   ► directly open Google Sheets and Google Docs. Previously you had to open it via

00:21:33 ◼   ► the Google Drive app but you don't do that anymore. You can use I think it's

00:21:37 ◼   ► Google Docs and Google Sheets colon slash slash and then the URL of the

00:21:41 ◼   ► document and it opens it straight to the Google Docs or Google Sheets app on iOS.

00:21:46 ◼   ► So I just have a row, I have like a block of 12 icons which are all Google Docs

00:21:52 ◼   ► stuff and I can just hit those and it opens me right into the app so that's

00:21:56 ◼   ► what I use Launch Center Pro for now.

00:21:58 ◼   ► Oh nice. I had no idea about the URL scheme changes.

00:22:03 ◼   ► I found it by accident.

00:22:05 ◼   ► Thanks for the tip Myke.

00:22:06 ◼   ► That's a Mykey tip.

00:22:08 ◼   ► You continue to provide welcome amounts of life hacks on a weekly basis.

00:22:13 ◼   ► That's what I'm all about.

00:22:16 ◼   ► And last piece follow-up this week. Hakan has wanted to comment. Federico,

00:22:20 ◼   ► it's a real-time follow-up that your Swedish was perfect you correctly

00:22:24 ◼   ► pronounced the Swedish which I cannot believe you managed to do. Let's see I

00:22:29 ◼   ► can go live in Sweden and I will be fine I will be able to communicate mostly

00:22:35 ◼   ► with high our you but that's a start. That's all you need. Yeah. Alright let me take our

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00:24:00 ◼   ► So a lot of news this week from Apple, but we want to talk real quick since Myke, you

00:24:08 ◼   ► and I are both on the show about the Relay FM app.

00:24:11 ◼   ► Yes.

00:24:12 ◼   ► So we got some links in the show notes one to a page on our site, one to the app itself in the iOS app store, and then one to our developer Tapjet.

00:24:24 ◼   ► The idea behind the app is it's all built around notifications for live streaming.

00:24:29 ◼   ► So shows like our show, Connected, we're streaming live right now and you can listen on our website and there's an IRC chat room

00:24:41 ◼   ► room embedded on the website but that you had to kind of know when we were doing it

00:24:45 ◼   ► right you had to either follow us on Twitter or kind of be around and with

00:24:48 ◼   ► the Avia if you have the app installed you can get a push notification and you

00:24:51 ◼   ► can listen in the app just directly and so far it's been it's been a lot of fun

00:24:57 ◼   ► to have more people listening live and it's really easy to go through and hit

00:25:01 ◼   ► little notify on the shows that you want and for shows that don't stream live you

00:25:05 ◼   ► can listen to past episodes and you can see show notes and all that's kind of in

00:25:09 ◼   ► they're all in one place now. Yeah we're really happy with it and it's been

00:25:14 ◼   ► amazing to work with Tapjet but they have this system which is kind of

00:25:17 ◼   ► unbelievable that it exists where they we have an app but all of the content in

00:25:22 ◼   ► the app is controlled by a series of text files in Dropbox. It's madness. So

00:25:29 ◼   ► like for example today before the show we put in a whole new section into the

00:25:33 ◼   ► app which has a list of all of our shows and you can go in and set your

00:25:37 ◼   ► notification options or subscribe to certain shows just in a big list where

00:25:41 ◼   ► previously, well and there still is a list of episodes when you open, but then

00:25:45 ◼   ► you can slide across to the shows tab and you can see them all there. Now we

00:25:48 ◼   ► were able to do that without having to submit the app for another review or

00:25:51 ◼   ► anything like that so we can add new features like this and new content

00:25:54 ◼   ► really really easily and that's the power of the TapChat system and we have

00:25:58 ◼   ► a lot more stuff that we want to do with the app. We want to put live chat in

00:26:02 ◼   ► there that is on our radar. We want to do more stuff with the Apple Watch and

00:26:06 ◼   ► actual notifications which I know is something that Federico wanted. We've got a lot of

00:26:09 ◼   ► stuff that we want to do. We're very happy that it has Split View and Safari

00:26:13 ◼   ► View Controller. We've made sure they were a priority considering what we were

00:26:16 ◼   ► releasing. But I think for just our 1.0 I'm really proud of what we've been able

00:26:20 ◼   ► to do along with TapJets and our great designer ForgottenTale on Twitter.

00:26:24 ◼   ► They've done just an incredible job and we're really happy with it and I

00:26:27 ◼   ► think people seem to be pretty happy with it on the whole. Yeah I did I did

00:26:32 ◼   ► want to kind of address one thing. There's an interview that Marco did on

00:26:37 ◼   ► core intuition a couple weeks ago, we can throw that link in the show notes as

00:26:41 ◼   ► well, about podcasting as a sort of as a medium and he believes like Myke,

00:26:49 ◼   ► you and I believe that podcasting is best when it's open by its very nature.

00:26:53 ◼   ► All it really is is an RSS feed with mp3s attached and our app is not a walled

00:26:58 ◼   ► garden for our content. In fact, we worked very hard to make it very easy if you discover

00:27:03 ◼   ► a new show that you like to subscribe in your podcast app of choice. You actually can't

00:27:08 ◼   ► see much of our back catalog on purpose to get you into an app like Overcast or Pocket

00:27:14 ◼   ► Cast or Casio or the Apple stuff.

00:27:16 ◼   ► And you can't download anything either. It's all streaming.

00:27:19 ◼   ► It's all streaming. And that was done very intentionally because those apps are all really

00:27:25 ◼   ► good and and we believe you should listen to our shows right alongside all

00:27:29 ◼   ► of your other podcasts you enjoy and so this is really built around listening

00:27:33 ◼   ► live, getting a notification and jumping into the stream as the show is being

00:27:37 ◼   ► recorded and yeah it's we're super proud of it super happy Tapjet their

00:27:42 ◼   ► technology and and the team behind it just have been amazing to work with and

00:27:47 ◼   ► so yeah so go check it out in the in the App Store and if you like it tell

00:27:51 ◼   ► friends, leave a review, etc. Let us know on Twitter and other

00:27:56 ◼   ► email and stuff the types of things you want to see so we know the kind of

00:27:59 ◼   ► stuff you're interested in. The idea of having the notifications view

00:28:03 ◼   ► in the shows panel came from user feedback. That's really

00:28:07 ◼   ► important to us so we know exactly the type of stuff you want because we really

00:28:10 ◼   ► do want this to be a great experience so we can have more people listening live

00:28:13 ◼   ► because it's fun and then we like doing it.

00:28:16 ◼   ► Indeed. There's something that I wanted to bring up, just a random thing. I saw

00:28:21 ◼   ► Joshua Topolski tweet over the weekend about the, and his tweet, and I'll read it

00:28:26 ◼   ► verbatim, "At what point can we talk about this awful badly placed yet badly needed

00:28:30 ◼   ► back button in iOS?" And that really struck a chord with me I wanted to talk

00:28:33 ◼   ► about it. So the new kind of iOS 9 back button is a fantastic addition, right? So

00:28:39 ◼   ► this allows you, you're in one app, you go out to another either by a link or by a

00:28:42 ◼   ► notification that comes in, you tap it, you go to another app, do what you need to

00:28:45 ◼   ► do, and it says back to X, whatever the app is, you just tap it and it takes you

00:28:49 ◼   ► back to the app that you were in. I use it a ton. It's actually one of my

00:28:53 ◼   ► favorite features of iOS 9 because you know as I said many times one of the

00:28:57 ◼   ► reasons that I love Chrome is because it has the callback URL stuff in and tons

00:29:01 ◼   ► of apps that I use support that but now that's not really so much of an issue

00:29:05 ◼   ► anymore because it's super easy for me to go backwards and forwards between

00:29:08 ◼   ► pretty much any app. However this is one of the worst pieces of UI placement in

00:29:13 ◼   ► iOS because whenever you have that there it hides information like your signal

00:29:19 ◼   ► strength or whether you're connected to Wi-Fi. And then with deep linking, it's

00:29:24 ◼   ► where you click on a link in a web browser maybe to Twitter

00:29:27 ◼   ► and it opens a Twitter app. It then puts another piece of UI on the top right

00:29:32 ◼   ► hand corner where you would have your battery life and stuff like that

00:29:37 ◼   ► with a link to the actual website, like say to twitter.com. So you end up in a

00:29:42 ◼   ► scenario sometimes where everything in the status bar is hidden and I think

00:29:47 ◼   ► that I don't have a solution myself as to what kind of fixes this.

00:29:52 ◼   ► I just know that what this is isn't very nice to look at and I feel like maybe

00:29:58 ◼   ► there could have been a way to push the information further to the right,

00:30:02 ◼   ► so it's pretty much touching the clock which isn't necessarily simple or

00:30:06 ◼   ► might not look better but at least you don't lose the information because

00:30:10 ◼   ► sometimes you can be sitting in an app for like 10 minutes or whatever and it

00:30:13 ◼   ► still says back to sweet pot at the top.

00:30:15 ◼   ► And I don't really think that that is the best way

00:30:18 ◼   ► to present this information.

00:30:21 ◼   ► - Yeah, I agree.

00:30:22 ◼   ► I think that's a good point about the covering up of the UI.

00:30:27 ◼   ► And I think the back and front,

00:30:29 ◼   ► I know what I'm doing and I can kind of get lost in there

00:30:33 ◼   ► of like, wait, where was I, where do I wanna go?

00:30:35 ◼   ► I agree with you, I think it could be better presented,

00:30:38 ◼   ► but I don't have a solution for it either.

00:30:43 ◼   ► - It's problematic because there's utility

00:30:45 ◼   ► in being able to return to the previous app

00:30:47 ◼   ► or go into the web version of a universal link.

00:30:51 ◼   ► It's just where else would you put it?

00:30:53 ◼   ► Would you double the height of the status bar?

00:30:55 ◼   ► So like when you're on a phone call

00:30:57 ◼   ► and you click the home button,

00:30:59 ◼   ► you get a taller status bar that has a label at the bottom.

00:31:04 ◼   ► Would you do that for every time you open an app

00:31:07 ◼   ► from another app?

00:31:07 ◼   ► So you're basically using iOS 9

00:31:10 ◼   ► with the double status bar all the time. What else would you do? Would you do it above the

00:31:15 ◼   ► keyboard? The problem is the status bar is the only piece of UI that's shared by the

00:31:24 ◼   ► system and apps. So of course Apple went with the status bar to include different shortcuts

00:31:30 ◼   ► to apps and to Safari. I don't know what the solution is. I wonder if they should try to

00:31:38 ◼   ► be more clever about it, especially on the iPad where there's the space to fit carrier

00:31:48 ◼   ► information, signal, battery information.

00:31:50 ◼   ► Instead, you end up with these shortcuts on the left and on the right and the status bar

00:31:56 ◼   ► on the iPad is mostly empty.

00:31:58 ◼   ► So on the iPad they could have done things a little differently.

00:32:01 ◼   ► On the iPhone I don't know.

00:32:02 ◼   ► Would you put those shortcuts above the keyboard?

00:32:06 ◼   ► you just bring them up with 3D touch but that would conflict with 3D touch in apps.

00:32:12 ◼   ► So I don't think there's a solution and I guess this is just one of those things we

00:32:18 ◼   ► need to learn to live with.

00:32:22 ◼   ► I don't know what they could do, I just know that I love it, to be able to tap a button

00:32:27 ◼   ► and go back to the previous app.

00:32:30 ◼   ► I hope it doesn't go away.

00:32:32 ◼   ► I guess they will try to change it, little tweaks, I don't know how.

00:32:39 ◼   ► It's an interesting discussion, if only from a design perspective.

00:32:44 ◼   ► You can see that this is the type of thing that they, I'm sure, was agonized over, like

00:32:48 ◼   ► how do you solve this problem, and it might end up being that the best and only way to

00:32:53 ◼   ► do it is this, but then it's like this is my ongoing thing that I keep thinking about

00:33:00 ◼   ► right now is the addition of features and stuff like that and the added

00:33:04 ◼   ► complexity and it's like you are now at this point iOS is now at maturity point

00:33:08 ◼   ► where to add new stuff to it you have to kind of break what's already

00:33:14 ◼   ► there because you're working within the constraints you set for yourself so like

00:33:18 ◼   ► Apple haven't got a place that they can put this button right like on Android

00:33:22 ◼   ► there is a button like it's just a persistent button whether software or

00:33:26 ◼   ► hardware that does this thing and so it's easier for them to do that because

00:33:29 ◼   ► it was built into the system. But now Apple's in a scenario where they don't

00:33:32 ◼   ► have that. They don't want buttons, right? Software or hardware that are like fixed

00:33:36 ◼   ► to a certain position. So now they're in this unfortunate scenario where all you

00:33:41 ◼   ► can do is hide important information, which potentially isn't the best thing

00:33:48 ◼   ► to do. And I think that with the larger phones that we have, doubling the

00:33:53 ◼   ► status bar height probably isn't the hardest thing or the worst thing to do.

00:33:56 ◼   ► but then the issue is not everybody has these five, six basically inch screens in

00:34:03 ◼   ► front of them. So yeah it's a difficult one. Yeah. Alright so Federico you

00:34:10 ◼   ► mentioned that you have a new iPhone so we want to talk about that you finally

00:34:14 ◼   ► got your hands on a 6s and of course there was new iMac news that came out

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00:36:29 ◼   ► So Federico, you have got yourself a 6S. Have you left the Plus Club?

00:36:34 ◼   ► No, I just couldn't make a reservation for a 6s Plus last week.

00:36:39 ◼   ► I really wanted to buy a new iPhone to try 3D touch and live photos.

00:36:45 ◼   ► My girlfriend told me I want to upgrade to the 6s as well, so we came up with a plan.

00:36:52 ◼   ► I'm going to use the iPhone 6s for a week and then this Friday I'm going to the Apple

00:36:57 ◼   ► store and I'm buying the 6s Plus for me and I will give the iPhone 6s to my girlfriend.

00:37:04 ◼   ► That's what we do.

00:37:05 ◼   ► She cooperates with me on these crazy plans.

00:37:10 ◼   ► Do you want to know about the experience of buying an iPhone this year, Myke?

00:37:14 ◼   ► Because I told you last year there was yelling guy who didn't understand the concept of lines

00:37:19 ◼   ► and reservations at the Apple store.

00:37:20 ◼   ► I was lucky to know what it was like.

00:37:22 ◼   ► This year was much, much quieter.

00:37:26 ◼   ► Fewer people.

00:37:27 ◼   ► I was chatting with an Apple store employee and he told me we had so many people make

00:37:34 ◼   ► a reservation this year because people are starting, I guess Italian people are starting

00:37:38 ◼   ► to catch on to the fact that you can just comfortably make a reservation and just go

00:37:43 ◼   ► there and pick up an iPhone whenever you want.

00:37:46 ◼   ► And it showed me a list on the EasyPay devices that they have.

00:37:51 ◼   ► A list of reservations.

00:37:53 ◼   ► It was a huge, huge list.

00:37:55 ◼   ► Yeah, I saw that as well.

00:37:58 ◼   ► Basically everyone is now making a reservation online.

00:38:01 ◼   ► They go in at different times.

00:38:03 ◼   ► So instead of having like 300 people in the morning and having those people stay in line

00:38:09 ◼   ► throughout the entire morning until lunchtime, which is when I went last year, they have

00:38:15 ◼   ► smaller packets of people throughout the day.

00:38:17 ◼   ► So like 20 people all day waiting for a reservation, which is much quicker.

00:38:23 ◼   ► I waited in line for like 10 minutes.

00:38:25 ◼   ► There's no big scene of yelling people

00:38:28 ◼   ► who don't understand reservations

00:38:30 ◼   ► and want to buy an iPhone right now.

00:38:31 ◼   ► And it's basically a custom churn

00:38:34 ◼   ► of people making reservations,

00:38:36 ◼   ► go there, pick up an iPhone, leave.

00:38:38 ◼   ► So that was very nice.

00:38:41 ◼   ► I was offered espresso and a croissant

00:38:43 ◼   ► while waiting in line.

00:38:45 ◼   ► That's such Italian Apple style, I like that.

00:38:48 ◼   ► I'm in love with 3D Touch.

00:38:51 ◼   ► It's really, really nice.

00:38:53 ◼   ► I now understand what people were talking about, the haptic feedback, the new vibrator

00:38:58 ◼   ► inside the iPhone, it's much much better than the one in the 6 Plus.

00:39:01 ◼   ► The 6 Plus one was too loud.

00:39:04 ◼   ► Now I can park my phone in when my girlfriend is sleeping and not be scared that I'm going

00:39:07 ◼   ► to wake her up.

00:39:08 ◼   ► Yeah, it's not like an airplane taking off anymore.

00:39:14 ◼   ► It's very nice.

00:39:15 ◼   ► I'm in love with the shortcuts on the home screen.

00:39:18 ◼   ► I'm still learning all the different ways that I can save time by navigating into different

00:39:23 ◼   ► sections of my apps.

00:39:25 ◼   ► One that I'm using a lot is, I'm using this version of NewciFi which is an RSS reader.

00:39:33 ◼   ► Let me jump into my unread list directly.

00:39:36 ◼   ► I'm also using the App Store search and redeem shortcuts a lot because I'm always searching

00:39:42 ◼   ► for apps or redeeming codes and that's a useful shortcut.

00:39:46 ◼   ► And also Safari, I love that I can 3D touch and open a new tab directly from a home screen.

00:39:52 ◼   ► And also the Messages shortcuts to jump into a specific conversation, that's terrific.

00:39:57 ◼   ► Because every time I go pick up my girlfriend at class, I can just 3D touch the Messages

00:40:02 ◼   ► app, jump straight into our conversation and say that I'm waiting.

00:40:06 ◼   ► So that's very nice shortcuts to save time on the home screen.

00:40:11 ◼   ► I have to say, though, I am 100% baffled as to the people it picks.

00:40:15 ◼   ► Why?

00:40:18 ◼   ► Then it doesn't seem like there's any logic to it.

00:40:20 ◼   ► I think it's my most recent conversations.

00:40:24 ◼   ► It's not for me.

00:40:26 ◼   ► So my most recent conversations with Steven, my mom, Gray and my dad.

00:40:30 ◼   ► But then when I go into the 3D touch, it's Steven, Gray and Matt.

00:40:34 ◼   ► Like I haven't spoke, me and Matt have an exchange and I have a message since Friday.

00:40:40 ◼   ► doesn't make any sense to me like how they pick them out. Stephen are they any kind of

00:40:44 ◼   ► order for you? Did it make any sense for you?

00:40:46 ◼   ► Let's see I never actually use that. Yeah so it's so it's interesting is that right

00:40:58 ◼   ► now it's Myke it's you it's two local friends and then Sean Block. Sean Block and I have

00:41:03 ◼   ► a phone call scheduled every Tuesday after connected and so I wonder that if it knows

00:41:10 ◼   ► that Sean is on my calendar for an hour and a half from now and it's putting him there

00:41:15 ◼   ► like a proactive shortcut.

00:41:18 ◼   ► Yeah, yeah, so I don't know, it seems to be like a mix of what it thinks I want and who

00:41:24 ◼   ► I've talked to recently.

00:41:25 ◼   ► Yeah, it seems to be trying to guess what I want.

00:41:32 ◼   ► So speaking of 3D Touch, I'm using the peak and pop gestures a lot in apps that I'm trying.

00:41:39 ◼   ► I really... it's two things. They're useful because I can preview a web page without having

00:41:45 ◼   ► to do the whole Safari controller dance with the dumb button in the top right or I can

00:41:50 ◼   ► preview images so I get a bigger preview, I can preview conversations and it's not just

00:41:57 ◼   ► that they're useful. They're also nice in the hand, like they feel very nice to kind

00:42:02 ◼   ► of like pick and pop. I don't know, it's the combination of the visual effects, the haptic

00:42:08 ◼   ► feedback but it's just nice for me to do that. So I'm doing that a lot. And I kind of wish

00:42:14 ◼   ► that developers were able to use the custom gestures, like the side gestures that you

00:42:20 ◼   ► can see in Mail. So in Mail when you pick a message you can swipe up to see a list of

00:42:26 ◼   ► menus but you can also swipe to the left and you get these icons like a side menu. And

00:42:31 ◼   ► I haven't seen any developer do that and I guess that it's not an open API. So developers

00:42:36 ◼   ► can do the little list at the bottom but they cannot do the custom icon and menu on the

00:42:41 ◼   ► side. So I wish that Apple opened that up to developers in the next release.

00:42:47 ◼   ► Touch ID. Super fast as you guys said, I can only confirm. But for me it's so fast that

00:42:54 ◼   ► it's becoming a problem because every time I want to look at my notifications in the

00:42:57 ◼   ► morning the iPhone just unlocks. So I know I can hit the power button, I know I can use

00:43:03 ◼   ► a different finger but seriously, years and years of muscle memory of just reaching out

00:43:08 ◼   ► with my thumb quickly enough not to unlock my iPhone and now it unlocks instead, that's

00:43:13 ◼   ► just a problem because I'm just used to it.

00:43:17 ◼   ► And so what I'm doing now is I'm opening notification center instead if I want to catch up on all

00:43:23 ◼   ► my notifications or, and this is the part that I don't like, I just unlock my iPhone

00:43:31 ◼   ► and then I go, you know, hunt around for badges on my apps and see manually everything that's new.

00:43:37 ◼   ► That's not a good experience, but I also love the fact that Touch ID is so fast that it, you know,

00:43:42 ◼   ► I can get in and out of my lock screen and home screen really fast.

00:43:47 ◼   ► So what I'm wishing for next year is a way to just press any part of the screen,

00:43:53 ◼   ► like with 3D Touch, to kind of wake the iPhone.

00:43:56 ◼   ► So don't let me use a different finger,

00:43:58 ◼   ► Don't let me reach the power button to wake up the screen.

00:44:02 ◼   ► Just let me press the display to kind of like poke my iPhone and say, "Hey, wake up.

00:44:05 ◼   ► I need to see the lock screen."

00:44:08 ◼   ► I don't know from energy consumption that would be a problem to always be able to 3D

00:44:14 ◼   ► touch the screen even when it's off, to just wake it up.

00:44:17 ◼   ► But I think it would be nice, you know?

00:44:20 ◼   ► It's kind of like grabbing someone's attention and just pressing the screen to say, "Wake

00:44:24 ◼   ► up.

00:44:25 ◼   ► Show me what's new."

00:44:26 ◼   ► I'm pretty sure there are some Android phones where you can like tap the screen to wake the screen

00:44:30 ◼   ► I know I've seen stuff like that. That doesn't feel like something that would

00:44:35 ◼   ► Would be impossible to do and I feel like you could run that on a really really low power mode

00:44:41 ◼   ► Yeah, I don't know

00:44:44 ◼   ► What else? Live photos really nice

00:44:47 ◼   ► The frame rate is kind of low which makes them feel more like gifs with audio

00:44:55 ◼   ► They're super nice to see extra details in photos when I was shoot, you know taking a picture

00:45:00 ◼   ► There's the before and the after and that's a problem at least right now. Maybe because it's still new

00:45:05 ◼   ► I'm learning for how long I need to keep you know

00:45:09 ◼   ► Taking the picture so it doesn't end up with the shaky ending

00:45:13 ◼   ► I know that iOS 9.1 is like like a new mode that basically cuts off

00:45:19 ◼   ► The live photo if you're just putting your iPhone down while still the live photo is still going

00:45:24 ◼   ► Right now I'm just paying extra attention to holding my iPhone upright

00:45:29 ◼   ► even after I took a picture because I know the live photo is still running.

00:45:34 ◼   ► Yeah, it seems to be like really random before or after for me. I know it's meant

00:45:38 ◼   ► to be like 1.5 seconds before and the same after but I feel like it's

00:45:42 ◼   ► sometimes not like that so I have no idea as well. So I'm looking forward to

00:45:47 ◼   ► being fixed for me because so many of my photos when they're live photos now end

00:45:51 ◼   ► in the phone moving in an erratic way at the end.

00:45:55 ◼   ► Now Myke and Steven, the core part of this conversation.

00:46:02 ◼   ► The 6S is too small for me.

00:46:05 ◼   ► I really want an iPhone 6S Plus.

00:46:07 ◼   ► I'm used to the plus size.

00:46:09 ◼   ► I'm a happy member of the Plus Club.

00:46:13 ◼   ► Myke was right, whatever Myke.

00:46:16 ◼   ► I really miss the extra screen space, the extra battery, and the idea that I have this

00:46:22 ◼   ► big phone and it shows me big web pages, big photos.

00:46:26 ◼   ► So I'm gonna buy a 6S Plus this weekend.

00:46:31 ◼   ► And I wanted to tell you this, I think this year I may go with a gold model.

00:46:36 ◼   ► I wanna buy a gold iPhone.

00:46:39 ◼   ► I need to know why, because I seriously considered it.

00:46:44 ◼   ► And this is going to sound stupid and I don't mean to sound like a jerk.

00:46:50 ◼   ► But I think it's more of a show off and I like that.

00:46:55 ◼   ► You like to be a bit flamboyant over there, buddy, huh?

00:46:58 ◼   ► I like that I have a gold iPhone.

00:47:02 ◼   ► And I know that it's not really gold and I know that it costs the same and I know that

00:47:05 ◼   ► people say it's tacky, but it makes it feel luxurious, maybe.

00:47:13 ◼   ► I don't know, it makes it feel cool in my mind.

00:47:15 ◼   ► And every time I look-

00:47:16 ◼   ► - You are having the exact same thought process that I had,

00:47:19 ◼   ► but ended up chickening out on getting the white, silver.

00:47:23 ◼   ► - I don't think I want.

00:47:24 ◼   ► And I was realizing this,

00:47:27 ◼   ► I spent the past few months with the white iPhone 6 Plus.

00:47:32 ◼   ► And I was thinking, yeah,

00:47:35 ◼   ► I wanna go back to the black iPhone, you know,

00:47:37 ◼   ► because iPhones have always been black for me.

00:47:40 ◼   ► Actually I miss the iPhone.

00:47:43 ◼   ► I don't know what it is, maybe it's just different, maybe it's the fact that the iOS interface,

00:47:48 ◼   ► which in many apps is white, kind of blends with the body of the device.

00:47:52 ◼   ► I don't know what it is.

00:47:55 ◼   ► But I know that I'm looking at the gold iPhone and I'm like, that really looks cool.

00:47:59 ◼   ► And I kind of want an iPhone that looks different, that kind of...

00:48:03 ◼   ► This is going to sound stupid to a lot of people, that kind of makes more of a statement.

00:48:09 ◼   ► I don't know how best to explain this.

00:48:11 ◼   ► It just looks nice to me and it looks like, "Oh yeah, that's a gold iPhone."

00:48:17 ◼   ► It's interesting that I'm treating the iPhone not just as an electronic device but also

00:48:22 ◼   ► as kind of an accessory, kind of like the watch.

00:48:25 ◼   ► Probably not going to make sense to a lot of people but yeah, I think I'm going to buy

00:48:29 ◼   ► a gold iPhone.

00:48:31 ◼   ► I'm going to be the guy with a gold iPhone.

00:48:33 ◼   ► I just need to accept that.

00:48:35 ◼   ► I think that's fine.

00:48:36 ◼   ► I mean, whatever.

00:48:37 ◼   ► a case or are you just gonna go flat out gold it? No no just no case I want to touch the

00:48:43 ◼   ► gold you know yeah it's not really gold but you know leave me at least with this idea.

00:48:50 ◼   ► Okay it's interesting I didn't really think about going to the back to the smartphone

00:48:57 ◼   ► like you guys really prefer the plus for a whole bunch of reasons but there there's a

00:49:03 ◼   ► review on Tools and Toys a Day by Josh Ginter talking about going back to the success from

00:49:08 ◼   ► the Plus. And again, to our point over and over, it's just nice to have options. And

00:49:15 ◼   ► there's trade-offs with each, right? Like Josh talks about in his review, the Plus is

00:49:20 ◼   ► a little more difficult to hold for some people. Or, Michael, you've talked about it a lot,

00:49:24 ◼   ► you kind of do all these weird hand tricks and you sort of trust the phone to do certain

00:49:31 ◼   ► things like if you kind of jimmy your hands back and forth. For me, the camera and the

00:49:38 ◼   ► battery life are worth that dread-all, and I think it is for you guys too. I thought

00:49:43 ◼   ► I'd point out somebody who moved the other direction and who seems to be liking it. It's

00:49:49 ◼   ► good to have options.

00:49:51 ◼   ► I see a lot of guys here with the rose gold iPhone, and the awful trend that I saw on

00:50:00 ◼   ► Twitter people calling it the rose gold iPhone, that's catching on here as well.

00:50:06 ◼   ► I heard people saying rose gold, men saying rose gold, why would you say that?

00:50:12 ◼   ► But yeah I see a lot of men with the with the rose gold iPhone actually.

00:50:18 ◼   ► And you're thinking standard gold right? No no I like gold, I don't

00:50:22 ◼   ► really like the rose gold, it's like light copper you know, I don't like it.

00:50:29 ◼   ► it. Instead I just love the gold color of the iPhone. I have a close friend of mine

00:50:35 ◼   ► here she has a gold iPhone 6. I really like it. In fact she uses a transparent case which

00:50:44 ◼   ► if I ever decide to go with the case again I may pick up a transparent one of those third

00:50:50 ◼   ► party cases and she told me exactly what I was thinking. I just want to protect my iPhone

00:50:56 ◼   ► but still show it off because it's a gold iPhone.

00:51:00 ◼   ► And if I ever decide to go with the case,

00:51:04 ◼   ► I'm gonna use a transparent one.

00:51:05 ◼   ► - So you're making me think that if you do it,

00:51:10 ◼   ► you may give me the confidence to go gold seven.

00:51:13 ◼   ► Because for me, even like just,

00:51:15 ◼   ► I, what I really like about the gold

00:51:17 ◼   ► is the gold ring around the home button.

00:51:19 ◼   ► That's my favorite thing.

00:51:21 ◼   ► So I could still wear it with a case

00:51:23 ◼   ► with all the colors that I like and still had the gold.

00:51:25 ◼   ► I think the gold accent is really, really good looking.

00:51:28 ◼   ► So we just got my mom an iPhone 6,

00:51:30 ◼   ► just a standard 6, 'cause it's free basically now

00:51:34 ◼   ► with a upgrade.

00:51:35 ◼   ► And she got a white and silver one

00:51:38 ◼   ► and she was moving from a 5C.

00:51:41 ◼   ► And we, and I was holding it today

00:51:44 ◼   ► and I was like, this is a great size.

00:51:47 ◼   ► Like that size, that iPhone 6 size is fantastic

00:51:51 ◼   ► 'cause it feels really small in the hand,

00:51:53 ◼   ► it feels comfortable.

00:51:54 ◼   ► I really like it but I couldn't go back to a 6 because I love the screen. I love all the

00:52:02 ◼   ► information I can get on the screen. The 6 is more comfortable than the 6 Plus naturally but

00:52:08 ◼   ► I can get by with the 6 Plus very easily in my situation. I'm fine with it but I couldn't give up

00:52:14 ◼   ► that all of the screen space that I get. And the battery man. I'm really feeling a better battery

00:52:20 ◼   ► with this thing. It's lasting way longer for me. I haven't got like numbers but

00:52:24 ◼   ► I'm never charging this phone so it's really great. I mean I know that comes

00:52:28 ◼   ► with refreshing the phone you end up with more battery but I'm definitely

00:52:31 ◼   ► feeling it again which is good. And one thing I did want to mention we got you

00:52:35 ◼   ► saying about a case of iterico I was looking on Amazon to get my mama case

00:52:38 ◼   ► and we just found this one you'll find it if you look on Amazon. It's a clear

00:52:42 ◼   ► back but a white bumper. Looks nice looks really nice. So I mean that's a way to do

00:52:48 ◼   ► So you get the bumper and then it's just clear on the back because she wanted to be able to see the silver in the

00:52:53 ◼   ► Same way that you want to see the gold

00:52:55 ◼   ► Yeah

00:52:56 ◼   ► It's pretty good. It's pretty good. Gotta say yeah, send me the link. Yeah, I'll try I'll dig it up

00:53:02 ◼   ► And I'll put it in the show notes because now I said that people wanted me to find to put it in there

00:53:07 ◼   ► And there was one piece of real-time follow-up as well that I wanted to just mention before we move on

00:53:13 ◼   ► Which I hadn't thought of before and Myke on Twitter

00:53:17 ◼   ► tweeted at the relay FM account and said that we're better than beats one because we have a streaming show

00:53:21 ◼   ► So you're literally worldwide always on always on always scheduled

00:53:28 ◼   ► Yeah

00:53:32 ◼   ► Very nice Myke. I saw people on Twitter commenting on the app and the notifications and the schedule well done

00:53:38 ◼   ► I'm a fan Myke. It's nice and

00:53:40 ◼   ► Something that Stevens just if I really like is it does like kind of natural language on the date

00:53:46 ◼   ► So when it's today, it says today also it's in your own time zone as well

00:53:49 ◼   ► So it's better than the one we have on the website the one we have on the website

00:53:52 ◼   ► It's just Eastern time so that that works really nicely because you can get the times in the app, which is cool

00:53:58 ◼   ► Alright, let me take our last break and then we'll talk about the new iMacs and new input devices that came out today

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00:56:08 ◼   ► today as we're recording on the 13th of October. Me and Jason had a great episode that went up when

00:56:15 ◼   ► the embargo lifted of upgrade where Jason gets to tell me about everything and I get excited

00:56:20 ◼   ► and or angry depending on what he's telling me about. So you could go listen to that,

00:56:24 ◼   ► that's upgrade 58, I'll put a link to that in the show notes.

00:56:27 ◼   ► And Jason, he had some time with the new 21 inch Retina 4K iMac and all of the new Magic

00:56:33 ◼   ► Input devices and he's written a bunch of stuff up on the website.

00:56:37 ◼   ► But I'm interested to know, Stephen I'll start with you because you probably have more of

00:56:41 ◼   ► an opinion what you think of the announcements today.

00:56:45 ◼   ► So I think it's a mixed bag.

00:56:49 ◼   ► with the 21 inch Retina 4k iMac, Apple's doing what they did with the 5k where it sits sort

00:56:56 ◼   ► of above the rest of the models and that's fine, that's how Retina has worked as they've

00:57:01 ◼   ► introduced it and brought it down the line. You know, it comes in at the top and then

00:57:06 ◼   ► slowly works its way down. In fact, today also marks the end of the non-Retina 27 inch

00:57:12 ◼   ► iMac. You can only get that with a Retina display now. But, the reason I say it's a

00:57:17 ◼   ► expect that those like great machines the 21 inch sell of Broadwell the 27th

00:57:21 ◼   ► Skylake processors but what kills me is once again Apple is doing things to hit

00:57:29 ◼   ► price points I haven't made it all the way through upgrade but I imagine that a

00:57:35 ◼   ► point that you guys made is that Apple basically operates around price points

00:57:40 ◼   ► and at times they sort of bend their technology to hit a price point right so

00:57:44 ◼   ► So this Retina 21 half inch iMac is $1499, but that gets you 8 gigs of RAM and a terabyte

00:57:55 ◼   ► 5400 RPM hard drive, which is just pathetic.

00:58:01 ◼   ► This was Jason's biggest bugbear with the machines, and I agree.

00:58:06 ◼   ► You end up kind of making the whole experience worse by putting in a spinning drive into

00:58:11 ◼   ► these machines.

00:58:12 ◼   ► Absolutely.

00:58:13 ◼   ► I appreciate that it's a 1499 machine.

00:58:17 ◼   ► You know, they have Apple's sort of bridge technologies,

00:58:21 ◼   ► the Fusion Drive, where if you're not familiar with it,

00:58:23 ◼   ► it is a very small, and smaller now than it used to be,

00:58:27 ◼   ► SSD coupled, through the magic of software and core data,

00:58:31 ◼   ► with a hard drive.

00:58:32 ◼   ► And so you see it as one volume, OS X sees it as one volume,

00:58:35 ◼   ► and core data is clever, and is like,

00:58:38 ◼   ► well, put the OS and things you use a lot on the SSD,

00:58:40 ◼   ► and put other stuff with a hard drive.

00:58:42 ◼   ► And I've used a Fusion Drive machine before,

00:58:46 ◼   ► not for any length of time,

00:58:47 ◼   ► but you run into a situation where some things

00:58:50 ◼   ► are faster than others and it can't always know

00:58:52 ◼   ► what you want.

00:58:53 ◼   ► And I don't know, I'm not saying that Apple's

00:58:56 ◼   ► gotta put all SSD in this thing,

00:58:57 ◼   ► but I think a Fusion Drive to start would have been good.

00:59:00 ◼   ► Because again, you have this beautiful machine,

00:59:02 ◼   ► you know, it's powerful even with 8 gigs of RAM,

00:59:05 ◼   ► it's plenty of computer for a lot of people.

00:59:08 ◼   ► And the core storage, not core data, excuse me.

00:59:12 ◼   ► But it is, it's really hamstrung by this drive.

00:59:17 ◼   ► And even when you go to the 27 inch,

00:59:19 ◼   ► the entry model has, again, that one terabyte hard drive.

00:59:23 ◼   ► Now, on the 27, at least it used to be,

00:59:26 ◼   ► I'm assuming it's the same now,

00:59:27 ◼   ► they use three and a half inch drives,

00:59:29 ◼   ► where the 21's use the smaller laptop,

00:59:32 ◼   ► two and a half inch drives.

00:59:33 ◼   ► So it's faster, but still, it's a spinning disk.

00:59:37 ◼   ► And I just refuse to boot from a spinning disk anymore.

00:59:39 ◼   ► Like, I know you guys have had the same experience,

00:59:41 ◼   ► Federico with what's left of your MacBook Air,

00:59:43 ◼   ► and Myke with your Mac Pro and your MacBook Pro,

00:59:48 ◼   ► like SSD is magic and it's so much faster

00:59:52 ◼   ► in just 100 different ways.

00:59:54 ◼   ► And I just really like to buy an $1800 27 inch iMac

00:59:59 ◼   ► and come with a hard drive is just,

01:00:02 ◼   ► it's just not a good move.

01:00:03 ◼   ► - I just think it's so strange that you put like

01:00:06 ◼   ► a technology like a retina display into a machine,

01:00:10 ◼   ► and like which is a very new technology.

01:00:13 ◼   ► It's still kind of a futuristic technology, right?

01:00:15 ◼   ► Because not everything has it, even though, you know,

01:00:17 ◼   ► these iMacs are kind of one of the last bastions

01:00:20 ◼   ► to fall in this scenario.

01:00:22 ◼   ► You put this technology in

01:00:24 ◼   ► and then you still put a hard drive in.

01:00:25 ◼   ► It just seems so strange to me that you would do that.

01:00:29 ◼   ► It's obvious why they did it, right?

01:00:30 ◼   ► But I feel like my feeling is if the laptops

01:00:33 ◼   ► can start with SSDs, the iMacs should as well.

01:00:36 ◼   ► But Jason's point, which I see what you think

01:00:38 ◼   ► this Stephen is Apple know the data so they probably know that well I would

01:00:43 ◼   ► assume maybe that they know the iMac customers on average want more storage

01:00:48 ◼   ► rather than a faster machine. These modern cars they're super advanced and

01:00:52 ◼   ► they have all these robotics inside and then you still need gas to drive a car.

01:00:58 ◼   ► Yeah they're still powered by fire like you know. Except you know spinning hard

01:01:03 ◼   ► drives don't kill the planet, I think. Well, I don't know. Maybe there's some

01:01:08 ◼   ► unrecyclable materials in there or something. Yeah, but to your point, I think

01:01:14 ◼   ► that's right. I mean, when I think about the iMac, I think of three types of users.

01:01:19 ◼   ► The first one kind of being at-home family users and I think the, you know,

01:01:24 ◼   ► iMacs have a big display, they're family computers, you know, I could see putting a

01:01:28 ◼   ► lot of pictures and movies and stuff on them. So yes, if I've got to use between a

01:01:31 ◼   ► terabyte hard drive or fusion drive and a 256 gig flash drive, then I think it

01:01:36 ◼   ► does make more sense to have the additional storage. You know, iMacs also

01:01:40 ◼   ► end up in businesses. A lot of designers use iMacs, a lot of just like office

01:01:45 ◼   ► people use, if they're in a company that supports Macs, use iMacs. And there again,

01:01:49 ◼   ► you don't want to be worrying about juggling data around and everyone has to

01:01:54 ◼   ► have an external hard drive or keeps it on the server. It's nice to have storage

01:01:57 ◼   ► space there as well. And the third type of user that I see is education and

01:02:03 ◼   ► especially this 21 inch iMac. You know these iMacs go into labs, they go into

01:02:08 ◼   ► classrooms where the 27 is just too big and too expensive. And so there you know

01:02:15 ◼   ► $100 or $200 makes a difference if you're buying 35 iMacs. And so having

01:02:20 ◼   ► that cheaper model be hard drive based again you get all the benefits of the

01:02:24 ◼   ► Additional storage and you keep the price point. So it's one of those things where on paper

01:02:28 ◼   ► It may make sense to a lot of people clearly it makes sense to Apple, but the feel of it is sort of wrong

01:02:33 ◼   ► But to go with an SSD you got to spend a bunch of money and on the base

01:02:38 ◼   ► 27 inch and I believe that 21 inch the biggest you can go on a

01:02:44 ◼   ► SSD is 512 gigs. You can't get a terabyte SSD until you get to the higher end 27s and it's expensive. It's like

01:02:52 ◼   ► $100, um

01:02:54 ◼   ► I'm not complaining about that

01:02:55 ◼   ► But I think I think if you're buying one of these you should set the money aside to at least go fusion drive

01:03:01 ◼   ► But to go SSD if possible because you're gonna get such a better experience and the machine will age a lot better

01:03:06 ◼   ► Than with a spinning hard drive in there the only the lowest range

01:03:12 ◼   ► 27 can't go to the terabyte the two the three the kind of the two

01:03:17 ◼   ► Next ones it's difficult to say what's different between them now because they all have basically the same processor

01:03:22 ◼   ► But the the 1999 the 2299 you can put a terabyte in them. Okay

01:03:27 ◼   ► You know

01:03:28 ◼   ► They also are they gigs of RAM as I railed about years ago on a predecessor to this show

01:03:34 ◼   ► The 21 inch iMac the RAM is sealed in

01:03:37 ◼   ► So if you're got if you want to upgrade your RAM and the 21 inch you have to do it a purchase

01:03:41 ◼   ► The 27 has an adorable little door on the back. You can add more RAM

01:03:44 ◼   ► but again

01:03:46 ◼   ► In buying systems today, it's been true with the laptops for a long time

01:03:50 ◼   ► but increasingly true with the iMac, buy for the future.

01:03:54 ◼   ► So if you've got a budget, and you can only buy

01:03:57 ◼   ► so much machine, then maybe a way to do your budget

01:03:59 ◼   ► can expand, if you plan on keeping this three, four,

01:04:02 ◼   ► five years.

01:04:03 ◼   ► And from what I see, the iMac life cycle is that long,

01:04:08 ◼   ► especially in schools and businesses.

01:04:11 ◼   ► You will buy an iMac and keep it for a long time.

01:04:15 ◼   ► Myke, I know that we're gonna get to it,

01:04:16 ◼   ► but I think that's your plan with your new one.

01:04:19 ◼   ► So you gotta think about this stuff now

01:04:21 ◼   ► maybe more than you used to.

01:04:23 ◼   ► It was different when every computer could be open,

01:04:26 ◼   ► you could add RAM, you could add a bigger hard drive.

01:04:28 ◼   ► Then when Apple skimped on this stuff to hit a price point,

01:04:32 ◼   ► it was a little more understandable.

01:04:34 ◼   ► It was like, well, I can just go to Crucial and buy RAM.

01:04:35 ◼   ► Well, now you gotta think about that

01:04:37 ◼   ► and be prepared that that might not be the case.

01:04:40 ◼   ► It's the case in zero laptops now.

01:04:42 ◼   ► None of Apple's notebooks can be open

01:04:43 ◼   ► and RAM be added by a human being.

01:04:46 ◼   ► And something to consider, I think,

01:04:48 ◼   ► you're looking at a new computer right now.

01:04:51 ◼   ► Any additional thoughts on the 27? I mean there isn't a lot a lot changed here.

01:04:57 ◼   ► No it's... Just bumps. Yeah it's incremental. I mean that display they're

01:05:02 ◼   ► using the P3 color space which I've read a little bit about basically it's a lot

01:05:08 ◼   ► better spectrum than the old displays. It's a good machine and we were talking

01:05:15 ◼   ► before the show that if I had one office I would be buying a machine today. You know

01:05:21 ◼   ► right now I have two spaces and I'm going back and forth a lot so I have a 15 inch map

01:05:26 ◼   ► of pro that I hook up to a bunch of stuff but this computer is really tempting to me

01:05:29 ◼   ► if I had just one desk in one place. It's not enough to like go build a studio at home

01:05:36 ◼   ► but you know one day one day maybe I will. But um it's a great machine if you're looking

01:05:42 ◼   ► for an iMac. I mean, it's always nice to buy at the beginning of the cycle, and these 5K

01:05:46 ◼   ► machines really seem like they're good computers.

01:05:50 ◼   ► Yep. I bought one.

01:05:53 ◼   ► So what did you get?

01:05:56 ◼   ► So I went with the top-of-the-line 27, and I've thrown some stuff in it. So I have the

01:06:04 ◼   ► 4 gigahertz quad core Intel Core i7 in there I upgraded that I've got 16

01:06:10 ◼   ► gigabytes of RAM and a terabyte of flash storage so it wasn't cheap but this is

01:06:17 ◼   ► hopefully gonna be my new machine yeah I just built it as you said it what's nice

01:06:22 ◼   ► about that is if you go to 16 gigs of RAM they they only use two of the four

01:06:27 ◼   ► RAM slots you could buy a 16 gig kit a couple years from now if you needed a

01:06:30 ◼   ► little more RAM. But yeah, I think you're going to be really happy with it. It seems

01:06:37 ◼   ► like I said, I would own one if it made sense for me right now.

01:06:41 ◼   ► Muckermann - So, arriving next week when I'm away, which is probably for the best that

01:06:45 ◼   ► I don't have a new machine to play with and set up before the trip, because that just

01:06:50 ◼   ► feels like I would be wasting time doing that. So, that's a little present for me when I

01:06:54 ◼   ► at home. I did get with it the Magic Mouse 2 and Magic Trackpad 2 which and I will be getting the

01:07:01 ◼   ► new Magic Keyboard as well. So this is three new peripherals that Apple have announced today

01:07:05 ◼   ► and none of them are really as magic as they seem maybe except for the trackpad. So the keyboard

01:07:12 ◼   ► and the mouse and the trackpad and now all have rechargeable batteries in them and they're

01:07:16 ◼   ► recharged by lightning connectors which is fine so you can charge them up from

01:07:24 ◼   ► basically any charger that you have in your home because you've probably got

01:07:27 ◼   ► lightning cables all over the place like I do so that's good they have fast

01:07:31 ◼   ► charging in some scenarios the weird thing like the mouse the charging port

01:07:35 ◼   ► is on the bottom which is like very very strange but you can get you got to like

01:07:40 ◼   ► flip it upside down to charge it yeah but you can get like I know I don't know

01:07:45 ◼   ► why but apparently you can get four hours of usage on a two-minute charge so

01:07:52 ◼   ► it's like the Apple pencil in that regard and then if you want the full

01:07:56 ◼   ► charger to charge it for a longer period like overnight so if you're running low

01:07:59 ◼   ► flip it over go take a walk for five minutes come back to your desk and you

01:08:03 ◼   ► know you're good to go for the rest of the day so I mean if you're gonna do it

01:08:06 ◼   ► do it that way and I expect like it was a scenario where they were like we can

01:08:10 ◼   ► do this fast charging and it would be really really useful design wise and the

01:08:14 ◼   ► way that we can put pack the stuff into this thing if we put the connector on

01:08:16 ◼   ► the bottom so they've done it that way. The new keyboard is not the horror

01:08:22 ◼   ► keyboard from the MacBook it doesn't have those new butterfly switches it has

01:08:26 ◼   ► the old switches larger key caps and San Francisco font and full-size function

01:08:31 ◼   ► keys which is strange. I noticed that in the picture I assume that when they

01:08:38 ◼   ► built this thing they needed to be a set size for the battery or something and so

01:08:41 ◼   ► - Yeah, they have more space is probably what happened.

01:08:43 ◼   ► So they threw that in.

01:08:45 ◼   ► And then it has a little lightning,

01:08:46 ◼   ► it has a little, I keep getting confused,

01:08:48 ◼   ► it's lightning, right?

01:08:49 ◼   ► Lightning. - Yes.

01:08:50 ◼   ► - Yes, it has a little lightning connector on it.

01:08:52 ◼   ► Jason loves the fact that when you plug

01:08:55 ◼   ► one of these machines in, it pairs automatically.

01:08:58 ◼   ► They're Bluetooth, right, but you don't need

01:09:00 ◼   ► to go through the setup.

01:09:01 ◼   ► You just plug it into your machine

01:09:02 ◼   ► and it pairs automatically.

01:09:04 ◼   ► And then you get to go.

01:09:05 ◼   ► - That's pretty nice.

01:09:06 ◼   ► I mean, if you've ever paired like Bluetooth mouse keyboard,

01:09:09 ◼   ► Especially in like an office environment where there's a bunch of keyboards and mice floating around it can be it can be troublesome

01:09:16 ◼   ► Yeah, I will say I use the Apple wireless keyboard

01:09:20 ◼   ► I found it to be the most comfortable for me and I've ordered I ordered a new one to give it a shot. I'm

01:09:29 ◼   ► Hopeful, you know the pitch of it seems to be less and it's shorter as well, which should hopefully

01:09:37 ◼   ► Make it a little bit better to type on and I'm looking forward to trying it

01:09:40 ◼   ► I'm really glad they didn't go with the MacBook style

01:09:42 ◼   ► keyswitches, but

01:09:45 ◼   ► You know, we'll see

01:09:47 ◼   ► I don't use the mouse or the trackpad. So like I ordered a trackpad so I could talk about it

01:09:53 ◼   ► and we actually use a magic trackpad on our Mac mini at home this hook to the television and it

01:09:59 ◼   ► Very recently like fell off the desk and it's broken. And so I will end up putting a new magic trackpad there

01:10:06 ◼   ► I guess when I'm done playing with it, but uh

01:10:08 ◼   ► So the magic trackpad is the only input device that features force touch

01:10:13 ◼   ► So the mouse doesn't have it. I don't I don't know how they would I mean you could do it on the mouse

01:10:19 ◼   ► I guess mints curved. I'm sure they could figure that out. But like the thought of like picking your finger up or

01:10:24 ◼   ► Moving your hand away where you could force touch down on a mouse seems strange and it seems like out of the three

01:10:32 ◼   ► Magic Mouse 2 is like the the smallest update like it's just the built-in battery and they say it like glides better

01:10:39 ◼   ► I don't know what that means. But um

01:10:41 ◼   ► The Magic Mouse did not get the same sort of update that

01:10:45 ◼   ► That the trackpad did and which leads me to a question. I said you guys think about this

01:10:49 ◼   ► When you go to order an iMac, so I'm sitting here with one in my cart. I need to be careful because it's very expensive

01:10:57 ◼   ► It defaults to the Magic Mouse 2 and you can add the trackpad for 50 more dollars

01:11:03 ◼   ► Is there a point where Apple just replace switches that and the trackpad is the default

01:11:09 ◼   ► I mean you guys see that making sense at some point in the future. I'm surprised they don't do it now

01:11:14 ◼   ► Considering that the trackpad now has additional functionality

01:11:17 ◼   ► Right to OS X in false touch that the mouse doesn't have and considering how popular laptops are

01:11:25 ◼   ► It surprises me that they haven't just said like the trackpad's what you go for and I think it you know

01:11:30 ◼   ► Maybe the reason they didn't do it this time is because the trackpad is more expensive

01:11:33 ◼   ► Yeah, that's the only thing I can think of

01:11:37 ◼   ► If they were I think if they were the same price and you could just pick I think that if all would be the trackpad

01:11:41 ◼   ► So do I? Yep, definitely people are upset about the prices. These things are expensive

01:11:47 ◼   ► yeah, so the new trackpad is

01:11:50 ◼   ► $129 which is that is a

01:11:55 ◼   ► shocking price and the Magic Mouse 2 is 79. 79 is really high but you know that

01:12:02 ◼   ► that doesn't make me feel as bad. A hundred and twenty nine dollars for a

01:12:05 ◼   ► trackpad is too expensive. I got it because I was already spending like

01:12:12 ◼   ► two thousand, nearly three thousand pounds on a computer so it's like well

01:12:16 ◼   ► at this point like I'm already spending too much money so I may as well spend

01:12:20 ◼   ► the next bit of money but just as like an add-on peripheral like to a machine

01:12:24 ◼   ► that you already own and have been using, $130 is a lot of money.

01:12:31 ◼   ► Yep, I had that feeling today when I bought one.

01:12:35 ◼   ► I don't know, I mean it seems...

01:12:38 ◼   ► You can buy an Apple TV with the same money.

01:12:41 ◼   ► Yeah, yeah. A whole platform.

01:12:44 ◼   ► That's kind of crazy.

01:12:46 ◼   ► Yeah, when you start comparing products like that, it gets a little bit tougher, doesn't it?

01:12:51 ◼   ► "Oh I can buy..." which it was... I mean how much is the new Apple TV?

01:12:55 ◼   ► 149?

01:12:57 ◼   ► Yeah, so for round about the same price you get the Apple TV which has the remote

01:13:01 ◼   ► which has the false touch capability in the remote

01:13:05 ◼   ► and you're like "Ahh! What's in this trackpad?"

01:13:09 ◼   ► That is... when you compare it to the Apple TV that price is crazy.

01:13:13 ◼   ► There's magic in it. Oh yeah I didn't consider the magic part.

01:13:16 ◼   ► Yeah you're right. Yeah and it's important to note too

01:13:20 ◼   ► as the chat room points out, these things support Bluetooth 4.0.

01:13:23 ◼   ► And so if you have an older Mac, you may be out of luck with these devices.

01:13:29 ◼   ► So something to check up on before you order.

01:13:32 ◼   ► That's one of those things that you just don't think about.

01:13:35 ◼   ► I wouldn't even think about that. Like, do I have the most up-to-date Bluetooth?

01:13:38 ◼   ► Like, yeah. I mean, they've shipped with Bluetooth 4 for a while now.

01:13:41 ◼   ► I mean, I think, like, Casey's old MacBook Pro that he just replaced,

01:13:45 ◼   ► I don't think would support it. But it's something that, yeah,

01:13:49 ◼   ► I mean, if your computer's a couple years old, I think you should be good.

01:13:54 ◼   ► And even if you don't, people on Twitter, I don't know if I've read it anywhere besides

01:13:59 ◼   ► that, apparently you can use it with Bluetooth off if it's plugged in, if it's hardwired.

01:14:06 ◼   ► I don't know if that's actually accurate or not, because people on Twitter were talking

01:14:09 ◼   ► about it, so I thought I'd bring that up as well as maybe a possible solution if you have

01:14:14 ◼   ► an older Mac floating around.

01:14:16 ◼   ► Yeah, cuz the trackpad the lightning port is not on the bottom. It's on the front, right?

01:14:22 ◼   ► You couldn't use the mouse, but you could use the keyboard and trackpad with little lightning

01:14:25 ◼   ► Cables out to them. So yeah

01:14:29 ◼   ► Yeah, so yeah, there we go. That's kind of the stuff today. I'm looking forward to picking up my new iMac

01:14:35 ◼   ► I will say this now if you are interested in buying a Mac Pro and a 25 inch Dell monitor

01:14:40 ◼   ► Just let me know like I'm gonna be selling this stuff

01:14:44 ◼   ► And I will have I most likely will eventually put it on eBay, but I hate the thought of doing that

01:14:49 ◼   ► So if you're interested contact me

01:14:51 ◼   ► Maybe over Twitter or via email or whatever

01:14:54 ◼   ► My cat really got a femme and we can talk about it

01:14:57 ◼   ► How many stickers are on the Mac Pro none, but I can put some on if it oh, don't do that

01:15:03 ◼   ► It is completely clean this thing and it has been well taken care of

01:15:07 ◼   ► But I can do the Mac Pro and the monitor for a good price. We could talk about it if you're interested

01:15:13 ◼   ► Cool.

01:15:14 ◼   ► Mama's got to pay back that iMac price.

01:15:17 ◼   ► Yeah, there is that.

01:15:20 ◼   ► So Myke, you're ordering one.

01:15:21 ◼   ► I mean Federico, you had an iMac at one point?

01:15:25 ◼   ► I still have my iMac.

01:15:27 ◼   ► Still do.

01:15:28 ◼   ► Is it just sitting in a corner like with a shirt over it?

01:15:30 ◼   ► Yes.

01:15:31 ◼   ► No, not sure, but it is sitting in a corner in my parents' house.

01:15:34 ◼   ► No one's touching it.

01:15:36 ◼   ► It's just there accumulating dust every year.

01:15:40 ◼   ► And I'm thinking that eventually I will have to buy a new Mac because to record podcasts

01:15:46 ◼   ► basically I'm not using my Mac anymore, everyone knows this story.

01:15:51 ◼   ► My MacBook Air is slowly dying.

01:15:54 ◼   ► I had to buy a new MagSafe this week because my old one also broke, the cable just fell

01:15:59 ◼   ► off.

01:16:01 ◼   ► And it's dying, it's like watching someone slowly fade away, which is a sad metaphor

01:16:07 ◼   ► but that's what's happening here.

01:16:12 ◼   ► Yeah well eventually I will buy a Macbook but my money is on an iPad Pro next so as

01:16:21 ◼   ► long as this is able to go to the login screen and access my desktop, open Safari, Skype

01:16:29 ◼   ► and QuickTime and Slack I will be fine.

01:16:32 ◼   ► When the day comes that you know I can no longer do this I will go to the Apple Store

01:16:37 ◼   ► and get a MacBook. It's interesting to me to kind of watch everyone's reactions to these

01:16:44 ◼   ► new computers. They look like fantastic machines, you know. Right now this place is powerful,

01:16:51 ◼   ► new accessories, pricey but cool. I just, and I don't say this to sound like a pretentious

01:16:59 ◼   ► guy just, you know, judging everyone, but I just don't care anymore. They're not the

01:17:03 ◼   ► computers for me. As I imagine Mac people don't care about the iPad Pro.

01:17:07 ◼   ► It's just to you know on the same show two completely different perspectives

01:17:12 ◼   ► that's interesting to me. I think like you're making the right choice to go

01:17:15 ◼   ► with the with the iMac. It is totally the computer for you I think.

01:17:21 ◼   ► Especially because you haven't had a desktop right now Mac. But yeah you know

01:17:27 ◼   ► this is not my kind of stuff. I'm just waiting for a new iPad and watching

01:17:34 ◼   ► this MacBook abandon me every day more and more. We will have some kind of

01:17:40 ◼   ► funeral I guess when it's all over. We will sing a song, we will say

01:17:44 ◼   ► goodbye. Give a 12 iPad salute or something. There will be like a ceremony

01:17:50 ◼   ► with all my iPads and iPhones saying goodbye but still holding up new

01:17:55 ◼   ► MagSafe so it's kind of putting new juice into the MacBook. Yeah but you know

01:18:01 ◼   ► the iMacs are cool just not for me. I have to say when I was transferring the

01:18:06 ◼   ► money between my accounts today to buy this thing I was looking at what was

01:18:10 ◼   ► left in the iPad Pro fund and I was like "Oh, okay, pay attention to that one!"

01:18:16 ◼   ► Oh man, don't even mention it because I will have to buy an iPad Pro 64, cellular,

01:18:22 ◼   ► smart keyboard and pencil and no 64 my friend 32 or one oh yeah 128 then yeah

01:18:31 ◼   ► starting at 32 why not 64 120 yeah that's just stupid you know it's just

01:18:36 ◼   ► stupid just I'm gonna have to reason 128 because I can't live over 32 yeah yeah

01:18:41 ◼   ► yeah and that's why we're doing it Myke right you just explained I know but it's

01:18:46 ◼   ► nothing and then I have to get the pencil on the keyboard it's gonna I'm

01:18:48 ◼   ► basically going to be bumping up against my iMac price again.

01:18:52 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:18:53 ◼   ► And you know, you won't be able to record podcasts on it, Myke.

01:18:57 ◼   ► That's true.

01:18:58 ◼   ► I had a thought about the iPad Pro yesterday.

01:19:01 ◼   ► My wife and I spent the weekend out of town and we're driving back.

01:19:04 ◼   ► Yesterday in the second half of the drive she drove, I had my email situation was out

01:19:09 ◼   ► of control so I just sat in the passenger seat with my iPad which is on AT&T and just

01:19:15 ◼   ► I just did some email on my iPad Air 2 and definitely felt like a Federico moment of

01:19:21 ◼   ► working in the car.

01:19:22 ◼   ► But also I definitely was like, man, an iPad Pro would be really nice right now.

01:19:27 ◼   ► Just like bigger screen, split view.

01:19:29 ◼   ► My wife driving so I can get work done on an iPad.

01:19:32 ◼   ► That's the dream, Steven.

01:19:34 ◼   ► Yeah, so I had the thought of like, I've gone from not interested in the iPad Pro to like,

01:19:40 ◼   ► I might check it out.

01:19:42 ◼   ► So we'll see how that goes.

01:19:44 ◼   ► But I definitely just had a moment yesterday, I was like, "Man, a bigger iPad would be awesome

01:19:49 ◼   ► right now."

01:19:50 ◼   ► Yeah, I'm definitely becoming more interested.

01:19:55 ◼   ► I can attest to the fact of how productive Steven was.

01:19:58 ◼   ► I think he sent more things to me than he has done in the entire week, so you definitely

01:20:02 ◼   ► do a lot of work when you're at that thing.

01:20:04 ◼   ► Are you saying, Myke, that you want to convince your girlfriend to drive you around so you

01:20:09 ◼   ► can get work done and reply to emails?

01:20:11 ◼   ► No, I can reply to emails from wherever I am.

01:20:14 ◼   ► I don't need to be driven around in a car to do it.

01:20:17 ◼   ► You know, I'm very productive.

01:20:20 ◼   ► If you only had the email client that you're looking for, Myke.

01:20:23 ◼   ► Please, let's not talk about that right now.

01:20:26 ◼   ► Too soon.

01:20:27 ◼   ► I don't want to get into that.

01:20:28 ◼   ► I really don't want to get into that.

01:20:29 ◼   ► It's horrible.

01:20:30 ◼   ► I have three apps giving me push notifications right now.

01:20:34 ◼   ► Oh my God, why?

01:20:35 ◼   ► It's because I'm trying to…

01:20:37 ◼   ► But at least some of the notifications for two of them.

01:20:41 ◼   ► No, because I'm also testing the notifications.

01:20:45 ◼   ► That's a bit too much, Myke.

01:20:47 ◼   ► You're going too far. Notifications are still the same notifications.

01:20:52 ◼   ► You'd like to think so, wouldn't you?

01:20:55 ◼   ► I know so. You're just doing too much, Myke.

01:20:59 ◼   ► I'm sorry.

01:21:01 ◼   ► Steven, take us home.

01:21:03 ◼   ► I think that's it for this week on Connected, but you do the show closing, so I don't know what to say.

01:21:09 ◼   ► day. We're just done. I wanted to test you to see if you could pick it up but you really

01:21:13 ◼   ► couldn't so. I can't do it. You got an F on that one. If you want to find the show notes

01:21:18 ◼   ► for this week, it's not difficult, you just go to relay.fm/connected/61 if you want to

01:21:22 ◼   ► find us all online there's some great places to do that. You can find Federico's work over

01:21:26 ◼   ► at maxstories.net and Steven's over at 512pixels.net. If you want to find us all on Twitter, also

01:21:32 ◼   ► very very simple, you can find @Vittici on Twitter and as me and Steven mentioned at

01:21:37 ◼   ► top of the show, we both put silly eyes in our names. Stephen is @ismh and I am @imyke on Twitter.

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01:22:06 ◼   ► Say goodbye, guys.

01:22:07 ◼   ► Arrivederci.