The Incomparable

259: Summer Superhero Spectacular: Round 2


00:00:00   the incomparable number 259 August 2015 [TS]

00:00:11   we're back on the uncomfortable summer [TS]

00:00:13   superhero spectacular we are in the [TS]

00:00:14   second round we're going to take our [TS]

00:00:16   collection 32 superheroes down to 16 in [TS]

00:00:19   this round it's going to be very similar [TS]

00:00:20   to the last round in the sense that we [TS]

00:00:22   have to cool judges were going to decide [TS]

00:00:24   the fates of the heroes in our star [TS]

00:00:26   chamber today [TS]

00:00:27   phillip michael is one of the judges [TS]

00:00:28   hello Phillip Michaels hello and steve [TS]

00:00:31   lets your other girl judge by Steve [TS]

00:00:33   hello [TS]

00:00:34   if the judges should not agree on a [TS]

00:00:37   decision then I have some exciting news [TS]

00:00:39   because you the listeners voted this is [TS]

00:00:43   our commitment to democracy here at the [TS]

00:00:45   incomparable if we can't decide then and [TS]

00:00:48   only then will the people speak and the [TS]

00:00:51   winner who will move on will be the [TS]

00:00:53   result of your vote by reveal the [TS]

00:00:54   results of your votes as we go as well [TS]

00:00:56   as some choice comments from the votes [TS]

00:00:59   given by uncomfortable listeners tonight [TS]

00:01:02   I just want to say on behalf of the [TS]

00:01:03   judges I think it's very smart of you to [TS]

00:01:07   admit you're in competence and descend [TS]

00:01:08   step aside and to leave Steven is the [TS]

00:01:11   experts [TS]

00:01:12   indeed indeed I i agree he and uh you [TS]

00:01:17   know we will see so for this round this [TS]

00:01:19   round up i think future and will be a [TS]

00:01:21   little bit different but this round is [TS]

00:01:22   gonna be similar to the last round a [TS]

00:01:24   slight change this we want to keep it [TS]

00:01:27   all positive in the first round and just [TS]

00:01:29   talk about your own hero this time I [TS]

00:01:32   like a a a brief recap of why your hero [TS]

00:01:35   is good and then a little bit about why [TS]

00:01:39   your hero is better than its opposition [TS]

00:01:41   so a little more like better not [TS]

00:01:44   throwing them on top of the positive not [TS]

00:01:46   only not only are you know but it's not [TS]

00:01:49   it's not about them it's about you but [TS]

00:01:51   it might be about why you're better than [TS]

00:01:52   that [TS]

00:01:52   this is what this is the slight change [TS]

00:01:54   in guidance i just want to come right [TS]

00:01:55   out and say that no money has changed [TS]

00:01:57   hands in advance of the judgments yeah [TS]

00:01:59   you made in ya evening's broadcast but [TS]

00:02:02   it's early raft no corruption of any [TS]

00:02:04   kind cannot think of a worse way to [TS]

00:02:06   spend your money [TS]

00:02:07   yeah then to right-field the Bourbons in [TS]

00:02:09   the mail and yeah it's not gonna get [TS]

00:02:13   this in the mail it's leaking through [TS]

00:02:14   the envelope that was really a bad way [TS]

00:02:16   to say you know what it was cheap so let [TS]

00:02:20   me introduce our are advocates and more [TS]

00:02:22   as an advocate hello [TS]

00:02:23   hello it's peeking through the envelope [TS]

00:02:25   may wait two seconds [TS]

00:02:27   Monty Ashley also advocate tonight howdy [TS]

00:02:30   howdy Tony sindelar he'll be speaking [TS]

00:02:32   for you know Batman spider-man people [TS]

00:02:35   like that [TS]

00:02:36   hi Tony help hello nerds Lisa Schmeisser [TS]

00:02:39   takes on the downtrodden with many of [TS]

00:02:41   her choices tonight but she's got a [TS]

00:02:43   couple good ones to hi Lisa [TS]

00:02:45   hi there chipset earth is also out there [TS]

00:02:48   he's not Tony but he's here hi chip [TS]

00:02:50   Oh God that did you just realize you're [TS]

00:02:54   on the podcast uh-huh realize he's not [TS]

00:02:58   Tony yeah i would help seven new [TS]

00:03:01   advocates in this round philipose alack [TS]

00:03:05   will be speaking for five heroes [TS]

00:03:09   no Vito Vito no sound effects [TS]

00:03:14   oh sorry but I was figure I was gonna be [TS]

00:03:16   like Phil Michaels in just a little from [TS]

00:03:18   music around little walk up in here [TS]

00:03:20   defend I find against the new guy [TS]

00:03:23   yeah kinda and also speaking on behalf [TS]

00:03:26   of four heroes this evening is Shannon [TS]

00:03:29   Sutter Shannon I left my keys [TS]

00:03:31   who speaks for the trees Jason let's get [TS]

00:03:33   going here is our first matchup the [TS]

00:03:35   first matchup is number one seed [TS]

00:03:37   spider-man advocated by Tony sindelar [TS]

00:03:39   versus number eight seed Aquaman [TS]

00:03:42   advocated by Monty Ashley I find for [TS]

00:03:46   Aquaman thank you [TS]

00:03:48   well how do you vote change of venue or [TS]

00:03:51   we gonna do the thing where you guys [TS]

00:03:53   advocate first you know what let's do [TS]

00:03:55   that first [TS]

00:03:56   Monty you're the lowest seed with the [TS]

00:03:57   with Aquaman so why don't you go first [TS]

00:04:00   well as the distinguished judges no [TS]

00:04:03   doubt no Aquaman is a member [TS]

00:04:06   both of the modern Justice League and [TS]

00:04:08   there were talking about the big bearded [TS]

00:04:10   hook for a hand grid Aquaman but he's [TS]

00:04:15   also a member of the Superfriends and [TS]

00:04:17   there of course we're talking about [TS]

00:04:18   green panties or in shirt child-friendly [TS]

00:04:23   Aquaman and I think it's important to [TS]

00:04:25   realize that what you've got a character [TS]

00:04:27   here who can span the whole gamut there [TS]

00:04:31   he could work as a solo guy under the [TS]

00:04:35   ocean fighting evil starfish or he could [TS]

00:04:38   be part of the team part of the most [TS]

00:04:40   important team in comic books and I both [TS]

00:04:44   way for friend who say as opposed to my [TS]

00:04:47   distinguished opponent spider-man he's [TS]

00:04:50   been on the Avengers but he's a loner [TS]

00:04:53   he's a one-note guy all you get with [TS]

00:04:55   spider-man is web-slinging come on [TS]

00:04:59   alright strong words they're from the [TS]

00:05:02   Aquaman camp a Tony sindelar please talk [TS]

00:05:04   about spider-man [TS]

00:05:05   alright I will concede that Aquaman is a [TS]

00:05:09   pretty solid hero [TS]

00:05:10   I'm you know I'm a big fan of the flash [TS]

00:05:12   in the flashpoint alternate universe he [TS]

00:05:14   conquers a significantly large [TS]

00:05:16   percentage of the known world so that's [TS]

00:05:17   that's pretty cool it does happen in you [TS]

00:05:19   know an alternate world [TS]

00:05:20   did you know the main world but still [TS]

00:05:22   but spider-man is in a class above [TS]

00:05:25   uh-huh man spider-man is probably my [TS]

00:05:28   favorite Marvel hero of all time he can [TS]

00:05:32   do whatever a spider can [TS]

00:05:33   and that that's a lot of he's also kind [TS]

00:05:36   of i think the the first kind of [TS]

00:05:39   superhero i read that is really a person [TS]

00:05:41   like an actual living human breathing as [TS]

00:05:44   opposed to kind of like a caricature uh [TS]

00:05:46   who gets these powers and that the [TS]

00:05:48   classic comic line that you know I think [TS]

00:05:50   everyone remembers with great power [TS]

00:05:52   comes great responsibility and he you [TS]

00:05:54   know he is kind of a stand-in for [TS]

00:05:55   probably a lot of adolescent comic book [TS]

00:05:57   readers in that Jesus awkward nerdy [TS]

00:05:59   person who you know is kind of an [TS]

00:06:01   outcast and then he gets these powers [TS]

00:06:03   and at first he thinks about how he's [TS]

00:06:04   gonna make his life so much better but [TS]

00:06:07   then it's about kind of how he can you [TS]

00:06:09   can basically do service for the city of [TS]

00:06:11   New York on the community in which he [TS]

00:06:13   lives so you know I think spider-man [TS]

00:06:16   adjust each he's in the top class of [TS]

00:06:17   super heroes of all time also mentioned [TS]

00:06:20   Aquaman I think advance to the round [TS]

00:06:22   predicated on the knowledge that seventy [TS]

00:06:25   percent of the world's surface is [TS]

00:06:26   covered by water i did some research and [TS]

00:06:28   I think that people would be interested [TS]

00:06:30   to know that statistically you are [TS]

00:06:32   always within three feet of a spider [TS]

00:06:34   ok good strong scientists in strong [TS]

00:06:37   science argument there and then before [TS]

00:06:38   we go to the judges I will I will give [TS]

00:06:40   you some information submitted to us by [TS]

00:06:42   our listeners listeners is a strong word [TS]

00:06:45   lists listeners in this category said [TS]

00:06:48   things such as does whatever a spider [TS]

00:06:50   can indeed spider-man change comics [TS]

00:06:53   introducing the idea that these are real [TS]

00:06:54   people with real problems happen to have [TS]

00:06:56   powers another listener said is he [TS]

00:06:58   strong listen hub he's got radioactive [TS]

00:07:00   blub which is very nice [TS]

00:07:01   another listener said hook for a hand [TS]

00:07:03   strong argument another another Lister [TS]

00:07:06   said seriously how did Aquaman move on [TS]

00:07:08   he's way more lame than Hawkeye another [TS]

00:07:11   listener said the problem with Aquaman [TS]

00:07:13   is that everyone knows when he farts [TS]

00:07:14   that sets a problem analysis water does [TS]

00:07:20   cover a significant portion of the [TS]

00:07:22   planet's surface whales can swing from [TS]

00:07:24   buildings [TS]

00:07:25   I don't understand that argument even [TS]

00:07:26   though i think it's in my favor [TS]

00:07:28   Aquaman is useless in the landmark city [TS]

00:07:30   spider-man survive three terrible movies [TS]

00:07:32   a feat few [TS]

00:07:33   if any superheroes could match and [TS]

00:07:36   Aquaman sucks i vote for not Aquaman so [TS]

00:07:40   those are the arguments from our [TS]

00:07:41   listeners now we go to the judges just a [TS]

00:07:44   sense i would mention if the world is [TS]

00:07:46   ever 70-percent spiders you're really [TS]

00:07:48   going to need spice has no power over [TS]

00:07:50   something I mean a man has power and so [TS]

00:07:55   so let's move on to the judges [TS]

00:07:57   Steve let's what are you thoughts i [TS]

00:07:58   think the extra information from the [TS]

00:08:00   peanut gallery is great it's good to [TS]

00:08:03   have more data points to completely [TS]

00:08:05   ignore stop sucking up to the audience [TS]

00:08:07   Steve I as I said no money of any kind [TS]

00:08:09   is gonna change hands before this [TS]

00:08:11   evening's judgments [TS]

00:08:13   ah Tony you point out that you're always [TS]

00:08:15   within three feet of a spider however [TS]

00:08:17   you failed point out that you yourself [TS]

00:08:19   contain millions of water molecules [TS]

00:08:20   within which potentially of Aquaman [TS]

00:08:23   could make himself small enough he could [TS]

00:08:25   swim around me that's all right I'm [TS]

00:08:27   gonna be alright just walk away [TS]

00:08:31   I'm not sure that's how I walk with [TS]

00:08:32   Aquaman or documents power is an [TS]

00:08:34   overwater his power is things that live [TS]

00:08:37   in the water he didn't tackle and shrimp [TS]

00:08:39   around in them if you're small enough [TS]

00:08:40   technically true which that's true but [TS]

00:08:43   through if he was if he was an aunt and [TS]

00:08:46   Aquaman perhaps I Tony wisely mentioned [TS]

00:08:49   that spider-man can do whatever a spider [TS]

00:08:50   can and that is a lot what is that [TS]

00:08:52   exactly that he can do that is whatever [TS]

00:08:54   a spider can he can spin webs any size [TS]

00:08:57   uh-huh yeah that's fascinating anything [TS]

00:09:01   else he has radioactive blub the walls [TS]

00:09:05   sticks to walls Tony stick something [TS]

00:09:06   about catching thieves and whatnot [TS]

00:09:09   yeah just like flies just likewise [TS]

00:09:12   alright well because Tony apparently did [TS]

00:09:13   the obvious homework that we gave last [TS]

00:09:16   time right easy i even said blog because [TS]

00:09:18   blood and Bob don't really ride so i'm [TS]

00:09:21   leaning spider-man and and I'm gonna go [TS]

00:09:23   spider-man what finally pushed me over [TS]

00:09:25   the edge was the fact that Monty and his [TS]

00:09:27   pro argument used the phrase green [TS]

00:09:29   panties orange shirt child-friendly and [TS]

00:09:32   that item that is a that is a step too [TS]

00:09:37   far as architecture is gonna swing him [TS]

00:09:40   for me it is spider-man film Aquaman [TS]

00:09:44   Aquaman does whatever on aqua can I [TS]

00:09:49   think not [TS]

00:09:50   spider-man is the judgment alright [TS]

00:09:53   spider-man is the ruling 20 from our [TS]

00:09:55   judges and in fact from the people they [TS]

00:09:58   voted by eighty percent eighty percent [TS]

00:10:00   for spider-man spider-man will move on [TS]

00:10:04   we move to our next our next matchup it [TS]

00:10:07   is number five seed the silver surfer [TS]

00:10:09   who will be argued by mr. philipose [TS]

00:10:12   alack and the number four seed kitty [TS]

00:10:14   pryde from the x-men argued by Monty [TS]

00:10:17   actually Mo's you are the lower seed [TS]

00:10:19   very slightly so you may go first please [TS]

00:10:21   tell us about the Silver Surfer well [TS]

00:10:24   first of all the silver surfers [TS]

00:10:26   incredibly awesome because number one he [TS]

00:10:29   saved his entire race by you know [TS]

00:10:32   becoming the Herald of Galactus so his [TS]

00:10:35   own self sacrifice should be married [TS]

00:10:37   enough but then you take on the power [TS]

00:10:40   cosmic which I mean really it's almost [TS]

00:10:43   you know you can even measure it [TS]

00:10:45   the guy can do almost anything then if [TS]

00:10:48   we go into the real world you know i'll [TS]

00:10:52   bring up the Fantastic Four movie [TS]

00:10:53   because not even an actor could really [TS]

00:10:56   play them they had to digitally put him [TS]

00:10:58   in he's that powerful that you can't [TS]

00:11:00   have somebody even a nic cage i play [TS]

00:11:04   them so that's important i like that [TS]

00:11:07   Nick Cage has become a unit of power [TS]

00:11:09   using her [TS]

00:11:10   it's one nic cage well I i gotta use to [TS]

00:11:15   make I gotta kind of build my case [TS]

00:11:17   because I got to use them again later [TS]

00:11:18   huh [TS]

00:11:21   he is also I you know look I have what [TS]

00:11:25   can i say he's silver and he's got a [TS]

00:11:27   surfboard everyone loves surfing in [TS]

00:11:30   those who don't you know their land [TS]

00:11:33   locked anyway but they all have that [TS]

00:11:34   fascination now think about that taking [TS]

00:11:37   surfing to a whole new level and going [TS]

00:11:39   along the super skyways and spaceways [TS]

00:11:43   and just looking for planets for [TS]

00:11:45   Galactus to take now that seems on a [TS]

00:11:48   whole a very nefarious thing but it was [TS]

00:11:50   only until he found earth and then you [TS]

00:11:53   know talk to that guy Richard you know [TS]

00:11:55   what's going to do she but anyway [TS]

00:11:58   but that's neither here nor there he's [TS]

00:11:59   already out but you know and he said you [TS]

00:12:02   know what I'm not gonna I'm not gonna [TS]

00:12:04   have this planet go down [TS]

00:12:05   that's my argument power cosmic and he's [TS]

00:12:07   silver alright power cosmic silver both [TS]

00:12:10   of those are facts [TS]

00:12:11   Monty Ashley tell us about kitty pryde [TS]

00:12:13   kitty pryde has saved the entire planet [TS]

00:12:16   several times and she did it without [TS]

00:12:18   having to become a lackey to an [TS]

00:12:19   intergalactic monstrosity that helps [TS]

00:12:23   we've seen her grow as a character which [TS]

00:12:26   is strangely unusual for a medium like [TS]

00:12:30   comics where you see the same character [TS]

00:12:32   over decades she was introduced as a [TS]

00:12:34   naive wave and she grew and learn from [TS]

00:12:37   her experiences and ended up as a [TS]

00:12:39   professor at professor X's school of [TS]

00:12:42   mutant stuff and Jesus and now she's not [TS]

00:12:46   only accredited institution the school [TS]

00:12:48   for mutants who want to read and do [TS]

00:12:50   other stuff good [TS]

00:12:51   yes that she's constantly changing [TS]

00:12:54   costumes and superhero names she gives [TS]

00:12:56   you a lot to work with and i'll compare [TS]

00:12:58   that to the Silver Surfer who's pretty [TS]

00:13:01   much always been the same mopey space [TS]

00:13:03   dude always look in the same always [TS]

00:13:05   calling himself the same thing he hasn't [TS]

00:13:08   even wear a costume just pretty much an [TS]

00:13:10   outline of a guy and frankly surfing is [TS]

00:13:13   only cool if there's danger involved [TS]

00:13:14   call me with our space sharks that [TS]

00:13:18   seriously i will come running [TS]

00:13:20   there there are spaced sure we don't [TS]

00:13:21   yeah I ok strong arguments there i will [TS]

00:13:24   throw in a few choice comments from the [TS]

00:13:26   listeners with what i heard a few that [TS]

00:13:29   were teenage crush on I assume that's [TS]

00:13:31   kitty pryde although you never know it [TS]

00:13:32   could be a Silver Surfer pointing out [TS]

00:13:34   the who else got a mention in weezer's [TS]

00:13:37   in the garage quite possibly the most [TS]

00:13:38   horrific nerd anthem of any generation [TS]

00:13:41   silver surfer despite the name does not [TS]

00:13:43   talk like Jeff Spicoli that was an [TS]

00:13:45   argument [TS]

00:13:46   Kitty has a purple pet dragon and then [TS]

00:13:50   this one made me laugh out loud the [TS]

00:13:51   kitty pryde is a grown-ass woman [TS]

00:13:53   silver surfer is just a weirdo in some [TS]

00:13:55   kind of silver bodysuit so that's some [TS]

00:13:58   of the comments from the listener is [TS]

00:14:00   about silver surfer not a lot of love [TS]

00:14:01   there and Kitty Pryde Philip Michaels [TS]

00:14:04   what is your ruling up a point of order [TS]

00:14:07   yes sir does superserver have a uniform [TS]

00:14:10   now that's his body is just over he just [TS]

00:14:14   hangs like a guy on the top of a trophy [TS]

00:14:16   second place I was writing the Oscar if [TS]

00:14:20   we get we have a decided that wearing [TS]

00:14:23   green hot pants and an orange shirt and [TS]

00:14:26   saying come to me children is just a [TS]

00:14:28   little bit creepy as we ruled in our [TS]

00:14:29   previous decision then um naked silver [TS]

00:14:33   man is not the kind of man i want saving [TS]

00:14:36   my universe [TS]

00:14:38   I rule in favor of Kitty Pryde alright [TS]

00:14:41   Steve what's silver totally nude [TS]

00:14:43   child-friendly so what is Silver Surfer [TS]

00:14:49   actually do besides float around on his [TS]

00:14:53   surfboard and kind of loaf well storm [TS]

00:14:56   thorgerson wanted to do the artwork for [TS]

00:15:00   Dark Side of the Moon and have the [TS]

00:15:01   silver surfer on it [TS]

00:15:03   so how has that sway you [TS]

00:15:05   not I like a nice any of the cupboards i [TS]

00:15:09   do but i am not to be swayed by album [TS]

00:15:12   cover art although last time I pick [TS]

00:15:14   Silver Surfer because he was on album [TS]

00:15:16   cover art but not this time my friend at [TS]

00:15:19   that time has passed you mr. windows [TS]

00:15:21   court does not recognize the concept of [TS]

00:15:22   President President Snow this time I too [TS]

00:15:25   must run from the silver naked child [TS]

00:15:27   friendly man with the power cosmic [TS]

00:15:28   although I I must I must give you props [TS]

00:15:34   for mentioning the Fantastic Four movie [TS]

00:15:35   that takes some real gonads well drive [TS]

00:15:38   its kitty pryde for me okay [TS]

00:15:40   the the listeners a agree with the [TS]

00:15:42   judges 65-percent for Kitty Pryde over [TS]

00:15:45   the Silver Surfer she advances on to the [TS]

00:15:48   next round let's move on [TS]

00:15:50   here's a battle of low seeds that made [TS]

00:15:52   it through as underdogs in the previous [TS]

00:15:54   round now they must face each other beta [TS]

00:15:56   ray bill the number 11 seed you may know [TS]

00:15:59   miss horse Thor he's going to be argued [TS]

00:16:01   by chipset earth again and Kate Bishop [TS]

00:16:03   the only Hawkeye to remain in the [TS]

00:16:06   tournament and she is going to be argued [TS]

00:16:08   by dan moore and Dan k was the 14 seed [TS]

00:16:11   going up against 11 you get to go first [TS]

00:16:13   what is your thought about Kate bishop [TS]

00:16:15   well my thoughts like a bishop are many [TS]

00:16:17   increase including that she is far more [TS]

00:16:19   competent than a thing Clint Barton in [TS]

00:16:21   many ways in in the keeping the Hawkeye [TS]

00:16:23   mantle as I believe one of our listeners [TS]

00:16:26   pointed out when KP ship decides that [TS]

00:16:29   she's had enough of Clint Barton's PS [TS]

00:16:32   and and hightails it to la the pizza dog [TS]

00:16:34   goes with her so in pizza dog as we all [TS]

00:16:36   know has impeccable taste so it's hard [TS]

00:16:38   to argue with that i will also point out [TS]

00:16:41   that while beta ray bill who I mean is a [TS]

00:16:44   horse is a horse skeleton-like I mean [TS]

00:16:47   make up your mind dude [TS]

00:16:48   well he may be better than Thor low bar [TS]

00:16:51   low bar so yeah I stake there at the end [TS]

00:16:56   chip what say you about beta ray bill [TS]

00:16:59   well if it please the court as I said [TS]

00:17:02   last time I risk losing my for indicate [TS]

00:17:04   Bishop cosplayer if I win this one and [TS]

00:17:06   yet I must in this matchup we have two [TS]

00:17:10   adaptations of the original characters [TS]

00:17:12   right Kate bishop is the second Hawkeye [TS]

00:17:14   and she's got talent she's got attitude [TS]

00:17:16   she's confident but she's just another [TS]

00:17:18   Archer [TS]

00:17:19   beta ray bill the second Thor is a [TS]

00:17:21   half-horse like alien half killer cyborg [TS]

00:17:24   with all of the power and worthiness of [TS]

00:17:26   Thor this gives you two heroes for the [TS]

00:17:28   price of one economy demands that beta [TS]

00:17:32   ray bill win this matchup [TS]

00:17:34   I would like to close in song for is a [TS]

00:17:41   Thor of course of course and no one can [TS]

00:17:43   lift his hammer of course except for a [TS]

00:17:45   cyborg course of course the minding beta [TS]

00:17:48   ray bill and beta ray bill before of [TS]

00:17:51   course in issue 338 check the source a [TS]

00:17:53   character i will always endorse [TS]

00:17:55   victorious beta ray bill also no further [TS]

00:17:59   questions your honor [TS]

00:18:00   strong strong different events also rest [TS]

00:18:04   and then here's some feedback from [TS]

00:18:08   listeners we need that Hawkeye [TS]

00:18:12   representation in this draft a real [TS]

00:18:14   Hawkeye has to be too fake [TS]

00:18:16   Thor horse tour is a horse [TS]

00:18:19   archery is not a superpower he's worthy [TS]

00:18:23   beta ray bill i reject the premise which [TS]

00:18:26   is I had interesting they just don't [TS]

00:18:28   like it at all you can do have to pick [TS]

00:18:30   one case the ship is one of my favorite [TS]

00:18:32   characters of all time based on the [TS]

00:18:33   recent comics why doesn't she have a TV [TS]

00:18:35   show and finally don't care neither one [TS]

00:18:38   is Batman alright not wrong not wrong [TS]

00:18:43   he's still what Steve whatwhat's what do [TS]

00:18:47   you say I'm a little confused by dan's [TS]

00:18:49   Kate Bishop argument his con against [TS]

00:18:52   beta ray bill is that being better than [TS]

00:18:55   Thor's an extremely low bar leap and yet [TS]

00:18:59   his barrel work a bishop is better than [TS]

00:19:01   clint barton creek also low bar couple [TS]

00:19:07   100 clipart is is great i'm also [TS]

00:19:10   concerned about piece created but I've [TS]

00:19:11   not heard previously about pizza dog [TS]

00:19:13   it's not why haven't you heard about [TS]

00:19:15   pizza dog pizza is his business was [TS]

00:19:18   pizza dominos here's all made out of [TS]

00:19:20   pizza [TS]

00:19:20   he's hot guys dog and he doesn't he [TS]

00:19:22   really is the other kind of dog [TS]

00:19:24   yeah I find it almost a miscarriage of [TS]

00:19:26   justice that you did not lead with pizza [TS]

00:19:28   dog which seems like Barry dog was a [TS]

00:19:31   quick second [TS]

00:19:32   the second point there I you know [TS]

00:19:35   deployed pizza daughter like we should [TS]

00:19:36   save those for the the animal sidekick [TS]

00:19:39   draft [TS]

00:19:39   yes good point on the subject of beta [TS]

00:19:42   ray bill I'm not sure economy is a very [TS]

00:19:44   exciting argument either although the [TS]

00:19:48   song was nice [TS]

00:19:49   yet I cannot be swayed by song i I'm a [TS]

00:19:53   judge man do you think in the end I was [TS]

00:19:57   ultimately swayed by a listener who [TS]

00:20:00   pointed out the simple fact that horse [TS]

00:20:03   tour is a horse he probably meant it as [TS]

00:20:06   a con but i think it's pro I'm going [TS]

00:20:08   beta ray bill [TS]

00:20:09   all right Phil Michael what do you think [TS]

00:20:11   mr. Morin years did you prepare a song i [TS]

00:20:17   did I decide not to sing it because i [TS]

00:20:19   want to spare you that indignity who [TS]

00:20:21   like many of the readers I simply do not [TS]

00:20:25   care about this matchup [TS]

00:20:27   okay yeah yet when a man where when a [TS]

00:20:34   man sings and and expresses in song what [TS]

00:20:38   is in all our hearts III cannot ignore [TS]

00:20:40   that my judgment is for beta ray bill [TS]

00:20:44   alright well then that doesn't [TS]

00:20:47   miscarriage of justice does it say that [TS]

00:20:48   is a two-nothing ruling for beta ray [TS]

00:20:50   bill i will say that this is the first [TS]

00:20:53   case where our judges have gone against [TS]

00:20:54   the views of the listeners who voted 61 [TS]

00:20:57   percent for Kate bishop is Hawkeye dan [TS]

00:21:00   that and all the masses are asses dad [TS]

00:21:03   into dollars wanted working dollars our [TS]

00:21:05   listeners are extremely drunk [TS]

00:21:07   yes the listeners are the drunk yes [TS]

00:21:09   that's right we are also listening right [TS]

00:21:11   now let's move on to the next round we [TS]

00:21:13   have number 10 seed Wally West one of [TS]

00:21:16   the two flashes to move on to the second [TS]

00:21:19   round [TS]

00:21:19   Sonny lashes he Wally West will be ready [TS]

00:21:22   by chip he's going up against number two [TS]

00:21:25   seed captain america who will be argued [TS]

00:21:27   by Dan chip you may go first please go [TS]

00:21:30   ahead [TS]

00:21:30   Wally West if it please the court I do [TS]

00:21:32   not have a song it does not please the [TS]

00:21:35   court cygwin now Wally West Wally West [TS]

00:21:40   he is the app says justice remains [TS]

00:21:42   impassive I'll allow it if it please the [TS]

00:21:45   court [TS]

00:21:46   i'm at a great disadvantage against my [TS]

00:21:48   opponent counselor not chip for i feel i [TS]

00:21:50   am attacking the very flag of the United [TS]

00:21:53   States but Wally West is the greatest is [TS]

00:21:55   the greater hero because of all of the [TS]

00:21:57   odds that were against him both in the [TS]

00:21:59   real world marketplace in the DC [TS]

00:22:01   Universe he was the difficult second [TS]

00:22:03   album he replaced a legendary character [TS]

00:22:06   and for much of that time he did so with [TS]

00:22:08   like half the power he just couldn't run [TS]

00:22:10   as fast but he made up for it with [TS]

00:22:12   attitude i refer the court to the [TS]

00:22:14   Justice League and Justice League [TS]

00:22:15   Unlimited animated series where he [TS]

00:22:17   brought humor to an otherwise grim and [TS]

00:22:20   frowny team and speaking of grim and [TS]

00:22:23   frowny well in a moment I will be able [TS]

00:22:25   to Florida mr. sindelar whose client [TS]

00:22:27   isn't exactly the life of the party but [TS]

00:22:30   first let me point out that the [TS]

00:22:31   lightning bolts sticking out of the [TS]

00:22:33   flashes cowl beat Captain America's [TS]

00:22:35   little winglets any day [TS]

00:22:37   Tony you give this one to Dan right yeah [TS]

00:22:39   unfortunately to your argonaut tony [TS]

00:22:41   robbins have Tony instead ship arguments [TS]

00:22:45   were miscalculate i was confused when [TS]

00:22:47   you're attempting to bread and it's not [TS]

00:22:48   like that's absolutely addictive against [TS]

00:22:51   the wrong this it is it is no one said [TS]

00:22:54   we had to be accurate in arguments i [TS]

00:22:57   really should have taken paid more [TS]

00:22:59   attention in public defender school [TS]

00:23:01   yeah dan what are your thoughts about [TS]

00:23:03   Captain America well captain america in [TS]

00:23:05   america is obviously the name so you can [TS]

00:23:07   just sort of dispense with that right i [TS]

00:23:08   think was more important here is Steve [TS]

00:23:10   Rogers and Steve Rogers he's just an [TS]

00:23:12   ordinary guy he's like any of us you [TS]

00:23:14   know he's kinda gets pushed around a lot [TS]

00:23:17   you know he's sort of against sort of a [TS]

00:23:18   nerd and he but he's a good-hearted guy [TS]

00:23:21   and I and I think that you know that [TS]

00:23:24   shows through despite the fact that you [TS]

00:23:25   know he's given superpowers he still [TS]

00:23:27   maintains that integrity and that that [TS]

00:23:31   heart that you know embodies what we [TS]

00:23:34   think of as the best of the American [TS]

00:23:35   spirit I always really enjoyed the fact [TS]

00:23:39   that his his weapon if you can even call [TS]

00:23:41   that is really just a shield like I mean [TS]

00:23:42   because you know it's sure you can you [TS]

00:23:45   can beat the crap out of swim with a [TS]

00:23:47   shield but like you know he doesn't need [TS]

00:23:48   guns he doesn't need you know oh fancy [TS]

00:23:50   hammer [TS]

00:23:52   he's just he's got he's all about the [TS]

00:23:54   defense you know and i think that's [TS]

00:23:55   that's an important lesson for hero [TS]

00:23:57   and is as far as my my distinguished [TS]

00:24:00   opponent goes I'm second to none in my [TS]

00:24:02   admiration from wally west except to say [TS]

00:24:04   that he's not Barry Allen all right from [TS]

00:24:07   the listeners we have a an argument for [TS]

00:24:10   Captain America as the unfrozen caveman [TS]

00:24:12   superhero defender of the weak somehow [TS]

00:24:15   manages to be idealistic without being [TS]

00:24:17   totally dumb and jingoistic he punched [TS]

00:24:20   Hitler in the face strong argument about [TS]

00:24:23   Wally West they say this is the wrong [TS]

00:24:25   flash but somebody else agrees and says [TS]

00:24:28   well he's the best flash and finally one [TS]

00:24:30   listener wrote not bury should have [TS]

00:24:33   picked a new name [TS]

00:24:34   that's the comments from the listeners [TS]

00:24:36   of Philip Michaels what are your [TS]

00:24:38   thoughts about the flash and Captain [TS]

00:24:40   America I am enraged by the listener who [TS]

00:24:44   says that it's the wrong flash there's [TS]

00:24:46   no such thing as a wrong flash sir all [TS]

00:24:49   the flashes are equally it's not my [TS]

00:24:52   child protective services told me not [TS]

00:24:57   chip mentions that captain america is [TS]

00:25:02   just like us [TS]

00:25:03   I don't recall shooting myself full of [TS]

00:25:05   super serum to gain superpowers and not [TS]

00:25:10   not damn brings up an interesting point [TS]

00:25:12   when he mentions the justice league [TS]

00:25:15   cartoon because that was a rough slog [TS]

00:25:19   safe for the comic relief brought to us [TS]

00:25:21   by Wally West the greatest of all [TS]

00:25:24   flashes I rule in favor of the flash [TS]

00:25:26   Wally West Steve yeah I don't know [TS]

00:25:29   ordinary guy all about the defense [TS]

00:25:31   doesn't really inspire me when Captain [TS]

00:25:35   America is concerned and bring humor to [TS]

00:25:40   agreement for any team that I can relate [TS]

00:25:41   to more than more than being a guy who [TS]

00:25:44   wields shield and hmm and yet chip did [TS]

00:25:50   it he attacked man's little winglets [TS]

00:25:53   that's stone cold dude it's not his [TS]

00:25:56   fault extremely small his costume was [TS]

00:25:58   just born that way he was frozen for [TS]

00:26:00   years there's gonna be shrinkage you [TS]

00:26:03   understand he does what he can with [TS]

00:26:04   those little winglets he tries his best [TS]

00:26:07   you know just you know he's got a little [TS]

00:26:09   bit [TS]

00:26:10   it's stop the size of the winglets it's [TS]

00:26:12   the motion of the flapping but lightning [TS]

00:26:15   bolts come on I'm going captain america [TS]

00:26:18   oh we have a split between our judges [TS]

00:26:21   this was one of the four most lopsided [TS]

00:26:25   votes on the listeners accounts they [TS]

00:26:29   voted eighty-one percent in favor of [TS]

00:26:32   Captain America whose on to the next [TS]

00:26:34   round [TS]

00:26:34   not a lot of love for the land the [TS]

00:26:36   people have spoken which flash Steve got [TS]

00:26:39   another one making a spread the love [TS]

00:26:40   around split splitting the flash vote [TS]

00:26:43   that's always tough yeah it's it is you [TS]

00:26:45   don't want to get I am writing angry [TS]

00:26:47   descent as I ok you're right now [TS]

00:26:49   Thank You Justice Scalia we're gonna [TS]

00:26:52   move on to the next region number one [TS]

00:26:53   seed in this region whole it is your [TS]

00:26:55   Superman yeah tópico whoo [TS]

00:26:57   Superman for top seed in this region [TS]

00:26:59   will be ready but Lisa going up against [TS]

00:27:02   the number 9 seed underdog the Falcon [TS]

00:27:04   argued by Shannon Shannon you are the [TS]

00:27:08   underdogs you get to go first tell us [TS]

00:27:09   about the Falcon ok Sam Wilson the [TS]

00:27:14   Falcon is the first African American [TS]

00:27:16   superhero in mainstream comics and if [TS]

00:27:20   that isn't enough for you [TS]

00:27:21   he's also the first community organizer [TS]

00:27:23   who manages to escape the red skull in [TS]

00:27:25   his origin story and stays to help teach [TS]

00:27:28   the island population how to defend [TS]

00:27:29   themselves against their evil overlords [TS]

00:27:32   this man has social justice warrior [TS]

00:27:34   written into his DNA long before hooking [TS]

00:27:37   up with Captain America in order to [TS]

00:27:39   learn how to deliver a punch as well as [TS]

00:27:41   a message and then he gets solar powered [TS]

00:27:44   jet propulsion wings and he can [TS]

00:27:46   psychically linked up with birds from [TS]

00:27:47   around the globe and use their eyes for [TS]

00:27:49   surveillance even get their help at [TS]

00:27:50   times and he become such a pivotal [TS]

00:27:52   member of the Avengers that when the [TS]

00:27:54   time comes he is the one chosen to step [TS]

00:27:57   into Captain America's boots and finally [TS]

00:28:00   I give you Anthony Mackay bringing the [TS]

00:28:02   Falcon to life with the perfect balance [TS]

00:28:04   of baggage and swagger that makes even a [TS]

00:28:07   decent portrayal of the mighty man of [TS]

00:28:08   steel seem like a glass of milk compared [TS]

00:28:11   to a fine bourbon with a carabao [TS]

00:28:13   aftertaste [TS]

00:28:14   alright and Lisa Superman I feel like [TS]

00:28:18   mentioning bourbon is a blatant attempt [TS]

00:28:20   to pan at least one of the judges [TS]

00:28:22   nevertheless credit for pandering right [TS]

00:28:25   Molly to notice Superman is awesome [TS]

00:28:28   because he represents the best of [TS]

00:28:30   humanity since he has deliberately [TS]

00:28:31   chosen to embrace humanity [TS]

00:28:33   he's always aware of how alien he is and [TS]

00:28:35   he's chosen instead to take that which [TS]

00:28:37   has made him alien and use it to try to [TS]

00:28:40   forge a connection to his adopted world [TS]

00:28:41   and people and to selflessly serve them [TS]

00:28:43   it's easy to think of Superman is being [TS]

00:28:46   too perfect but we should focus on [TS]

00:28:48   instead is the isolation at the beating [TS]

00:28:50   heart of his character and how he [TS]

00:28:52   carries out isolation constantly his [TS]

00:28:54   entire life as an effort to connect with [TS]

00:28:55   the people he's not of or from in a [TS]

00:28:58   place he's not of or from any shoulders [TS]

00:29:00   responsibilities he doesn't have to in [TS]

00:29:02   the name of trying to forge a simple [TS]

00:29:04   person to person connection so his [TS]

00:29:07   appeal doesn't come from his protection [TS]

00:29:08   but from the struggle that he silently [TS]

00:29:10   lives and never complains about while [TS]

00:29:12   you're Batman's all you killed my [TS]

00:29:13   parents um a creature of the night I [TS]

00:29:16   feel with the limitations of humanity [TS]

00:29:18   Superman is all well you guys have [TS]

00:29:20   limits minor slightly pastors I'll [TS]

00:29:23   bridge that difference [TS]

00:29:25   he's awesome because he hides in plain [TS]

00:29:26   sight as Clark Kent and it's a burden to [TS]

00:29:29   love something as much as human Superman [TS]

00:29:31   loves humanity and to be so sure that [TS]

00:29:33   you can't be wholly loved back that you [TS]

00:29:35   have to split the best parts yourself [TS]

00:29:37   into two different conflicting [TS]

00:29:38   identities and finally the thing that [TS]

00:29:41   makes him so powerful is he always [TS]

00:29:42   chooses to do what's right over doing [TS]

00:29:44   what's easy or what or what easily [TS]

00:29:47   within his grasp his strength of [TS]

00:29:49   character is far far stronger than any [TS]

00:29:51   physical street could be and it's [TS]

00:29:53   inspiring because it comes from somebody [TS]

00:29:55   who will always be a stranger in a [TS]

00:29:57   strange land is quintessentially [TS]

00:29:59   American is the quintessential immigrant [TS]

00:30:01   story he's he's an American in that he [TS]

00:30:03   loves America he protects the nation of [TS]

00:30:05   opportunity and he'll never be fully [TS]

00:30:07   embraced by the people he so desperately [TS]

00:30:09   wants to become one of all right thank [TS]

00:30:11   you Lisa at one point there i got a [TS]

00:30:13   little confused about why Batman was [TS]

00:30:14   suddenly in there but you know you don't [TS]

00:30:16   have a little i was i was uncomfortable [TS]

00:30:18   a little italy anti-ban sentiment thrown [TS]

00:30:20   it [TS]

00:30:21   ok so the leaders are hiring hear some [TS]

00:30:23   comments from the listeners I hate [TS]

00:30:25   Superman Superman is boring [TS]

00:30:27   also we heard I'm not Superman fan but [TS]

00:30:30   isn't the Falcon just a guy with a [TS]

00:30:31   jetpack that some several people pointed [TS]

00:30:34   out that in the latest Marvel really [TS]

00:30:35   Scott development is happening yet pack [TS]

00:30:37   the balconies beaten by ant-man voting [TS]

00:30:42   against Superman would be like cursing [TS]

00:30:43   God because you don't have come because [TS]

00:30:47   you at the uncomfortable don't have [TS]

00:30:48   conversations about Christian symbolism [TS]

00:30:49   about the Falcon and if you did no one [TS]

00:30:51   would care and finally what I don't care [TS]

00:30:55   and finally I don't care neither of them [TS]

00:30:59   is Batman judges Steve what do you think [TS]

00:31:03   well noted that the Falcon is the first [TS]

00:31:05   african american hero that's that's [TS]

00:31:07   worth something [TS]

00:31:08   although my strict oath of office [TS]

00:31:10   prevents me from being influenced by [TS]

00:31:12   that that said he is a badass i do like [TS]

00:31:15   the Falcon quite a bit i note that [TS]

00:31:18   neither side in this argument shows to [TS]

00:31:21   present much of a con argument with the [TS]

00:31:24   exception of Lisa Schmeisser who [TS]

00:31:25   actually presented a con argument for [TS]

00:31:27   Batman that seems a bit mod hmm that's [TS]

00:31:31   something that's a strange bit of [TS]

00:31:32   misdirection it's kind of messed with my [TS]

00:31:34   head [TS]

00:31:36   but still Falcon is just a bit too much [TS]

00:31:40   of an underdog in this one that I have [TS]

00:31:42   to go Superman right Phil the one girl [TS]

00:31:45   raises some interesting facts which one [TS]

00:31:49   but the other girl raises some [TS]

00:31:52   interesting points there was mention of [TS]

00:31:56   bourbon there was an unwarranted attack [TS]

00:32:00   on Batman Christopher Reeve once yelled [TS]

00:32:05   at me I'm going to go with Falcon wow [TS]

00:32:09   alright we do there was a tally there [TS]

00:32:13   and in the end it just was a little bit [TS]

00:32:14   on Falcon side so we have to leave this [TS]

00:32:16   to the to the listeners this is not one [TS]

00:32:20   of the biggest margins surprisingly but [TS]

00:32:23   the listeners did vote by 68% to move [TS]

00:32:28   Superman the favorite through Superman [TS]

00:32:31   moves on the on the vote of the [TS]

00:32:34   listeners on to the next round but well [TS]

00:32:36   thought by the Falcon I think we're [TS]

00:32:39   going to move on to the next round now a [TS]

00:32:40   really tight matchup between number five [TS]

00:32:43   seed Doctor Strange will be argued by [TS]

00:32:44   Shannon and number four seed the tick [TS]

00:32:46   who will be argued by Dan Shannon Doctor [TS]

00:32:50   Strange slight underdog to the tick here [TS]

00:32:51   you may go first tell us about dr. [TS]

00:32:53   strange [TS]

00:32:54   ok on the one hand Doctor Strange is a [TS]

00:32:57   perfect example of redemption he's an [TS]

00:33:00   egotistical neurosurgeon he loses the [TS]

00:33:02   necessary iron control of his hands to [TS]

00:33:04   nerve damage in a car accident and sets [TS]

00:33:06   off on a quest for a Cure moving into [TS]

00:33:08   more esoteric territory all the time his [TS]

00:33:11   superhero potential is born when he [TS]

00:33:13   rescues a mystic grew from an [TS]

00:33:15   assassination attempt by his disciple [TS]

00:33:17   and goes on to apply his towering [TS]

00:33:19   intellect to the secrets of sorcery and [TS]

00:33:21   use his knowledge to fight evil [TS]

00:33:23   on the other hand dr. strange presides [TS]

00:33:26   over a setting that is marvel comics to [TS]

00:33:28   the extreme dazzlingly surreal and a [TS]

00:33:31   glorious mismatch of every known angle [TS]

00:33:33   of legendary magic and mythology even [TS]

00:33:35   for a universe where Norse gods walk [TS]

00:33:37   around having shawarma and flinging [TS]

00:33:39   coffee mugs Doctor Strange stands apart [TS]

00:33:42   as he invokes his mystic powers and yet [TS]

00:33:44   he makes with the best of Marvel [TS]

00:33:46   punishing himself everytime he must [TS]

00:33:48   resort to black magic [TS]

00:33:49   in order to do good and uh honestly when [TS]

00:33:54   it comes to my opponent the intellect [TS]

00:33:58   for me wins every time a big blue and [TS]

00:34:01   dreadfully misusing his one power of [TS]

00:34:04   oratory doesn't work for me [TS]

00:34:07   so finally when you can get someone like [TS]

00:34:09   Benedict Cumberbatch to play you and [TS]

00:34:11   your very own major motion picture in [TS]

00:34:13   spite of your very cemeteries cloak of [TS]

00:34:15   levitation and a wonderful to your [TS]

00:34:17   commanding respect from somewhere [TS]

00:34:19   alright Dan the tick the tick indeed 6 [TS]

00:34:23   foot 6 230 pounds with a super strength [TS]

00:34:28   and let's not forget he's not [TS]

00:34:31   invulnerable the ticket is is pretty [TS]

00:34:34   much one of the best superheroes ever [TS]

00:34:37   and and that to me relies on sort of [TS]

00:34:39   just his the childlike wonder which he [TS]

00:34:42   sees the world because there is nothing [TS]

00:34:44   that the tick cannot find some manner of [TS]

00:34:47   joy in to my mind personally you know [TS]

00:34:51   he's he's it proved himself to be a [TS]

00:34:54   superhero that hasn't ability to get [TS]

00:34:58   along with other superheroes whether it [TS]

00:35:00   be his sidekick arthur or the variety of [TS]

00:35:04   other superheroes that he meets in his [TS]

00:35:06   in his various adventures including a [TS]

00:35:10   deflator mouse and American need and so [TS]

00:35:14   i have to say that my personal favorite [TS]

00:35:16   thing I mean a that when it comes down [TS]

00:35:18   to the tickets [TS]

00:35:19   how can you really argue with a guy [TS]

00:35:20   who's battle cry is spoon [TS]

00:35:24   I mean to me that just sends it up and [TS]

00:35:26   as for dr. dr. strange well he's no [TS]

00:35:29   doctor fate is all I'm saying [TS]

00:35:31   alright i will have a few notes from the [TS]

00:35:35   list is to share here on the the ledger [TS]

00:35:38   for Doctor Strange we hear mustache is [TS]

00:35:41   greater than spoon also dr. strange [TS]

00:35:44   understands that it is not the spoon [TS]

00:35:46   that bends it is only yourself the [TS]

00:35:48   matrix cross over there several people [TS]

00:35:50   wrote in to say spoon also because the [TS]

00:35:53   tick is Jason's favorite that's and [TS]

00:35:55   there may be some truth in that [TS]

00:35:57   and finally this parody of a tournament [TS]

00:35:59   needs a parody for its champion and [TS]

00:36:02   sorcerer supreme [TS]

00:36:03   name sounds like a menu item served at [TS]

00:36:05   taco bell [TS]

00:36:09   alright how about an argument for or [TS]

00:36:12   against him I I leave that up to the to [TS]

00:36:15   the judges and everyone else to think [TS]

00:36:17   about in their hearts [TS]

00:36:19   Steve what what do you think I think [TS]

00:36:22   sorcerer supreme we probably contain [TS]

00:36:24   ground beef [TS]

00:36:25   maybe some cheese gotta talk about [TS]

00:36:27   lettuce [TS]

00:36:28   yeah and either a corn tortilla or a or [TS]

00:36:33   a flour tortilla [TS]

00:36:35   well that's the sorcerer but then if you [TS]

00:36:36   add the sour cream and guacamole becomes [TS]

00:36:38   a sorcerer supreme we gotta get on it in [TS]

00:36:40   something literally everything at taco [TS]

00:36:42   bell is made into the same ingredients [TS]

00:36:44   kangaroo meat sounds delicious though I [TS]

00:36:49   listen the the word picture that Shannon [TS]

00:36:52   painted there was gorgeous i am very [TS]

00:36:54   impressed with her her advocacy for dr. [TS]

00:36:57   strange i like his quest for redemption [TS]

00:37:00   i like the hero whose whose intellect is [TS]

00:37:04   emphasized over potentially you know [TS]

00:37:07   brute strength [TS]

00:37:09   although getting Benedict Cumberbatch to [TS]

00:37:11   play him isn't really much of a point in [TS]

00:37:13   his favor since you can get frankly [TS]

00:37:14   Benedict Cumberbatch to play a summer [TS]

00:37:16   squash that DoublePlay anything the tix [TS]

00:37:21   strength [TS]

00:37:21   interestingly is somewhat the opposite [TS]

00:37:23   of intellect childlike wonder he finds [TS]

00:37:25   joy in things which i think is great [TS]

00:37:28   although i think dad could have earned [TS]

00:37:31   some extra points if finding joy in all [TS]

00:37:33   things he had not presented a con [TS]

00:37:34   instead of taking the low blow about dr. [TS]

00:37:37   fate ultimately my love taco bell has to [TS]

00:37:41   point me in the direction of dr. street [TS]

00:37:43   right that that's a sentence we've all [TS]

00:37:47   heard a million yeah that that wanders [TS]

00:37:49   comment really back my like what happens [TS]

00:37:52   when you eat taco bell [TS]

00:37:53   okay well like Steve I was moved by [TS]

00:37:56   shannons argument however the tick has [TS]

00:38:02   brought me so much pleasure over the [TS]

00:38:03   years but the animated series be at the [TS]

00:38:06   live-action series Doctor Strange i just [TS]

00:38:10   learned of his existence five minutes [TS]

00:38:11   ago [TS]

00:38:12   that's weird because he went through on [TS]

00:38:17   a previous round of this very tournament [TS]

00:38:19   where we do violence don't listen Rex [TS]

00:38:23   you know I don't like barely remember [TS]

00:38:27   your name [TS]

00:38:30   well let that's going around tonight I [TS]

00:38:33   think that it will have to be to tick [TS]

00:38:35   the tick now to take forever [TS]

00:38:37   well I i love the tick dearly as well [TS]

00:38:40   unfortunately the listeners do not share [TS]

00:38:42   my view the doctor listeners are jerks [TS]

00:38:44   the doctor strange i agree Phil blisters [TS]

00:38:46   are jerks at least fifty nine percent of [TS]

00:38:48   them who voted for dr. 99% of you she [TS]

00:38:51   loves the tick tread I demand a recount [TS]

00:38:54   all right that was a hard fought hard [TS]

00:38:58   but I was certain that would go the [TS]

00:38:59   other way [TS]

00:39:00   yeah may I approach the bench sir I'm [TS]

00:39:02   gonna go sulk in my tent like some guy [TS]

00:39:03   from Chile in the previous two rounds [TS]

00:39:07   advocacy and Siddharth has expert has [TS]

00:39:11   advocated on behalf of her characters [TS]

00:39:13   based in part on how hot she thinks they [TS]

00:39:17   are as her husband i'm feeling [TS]

00:39:19   inadequate night must request that you [TS]

00:39:21   enjoyed her [TS]

00:39:22   hey you have your list too dude I'll do [TS]

00:39:24   no such things are [TS]

00:39:25   please return to your seat type i will [TS]

00:39:27   not enjoy her because I don't find them [TS]

00:39:29   particularly hot just chips without if [TS]

00:39:31   you do some pull-ups well your podcast [TS]

00:39:33   yeah that's all maybe hang out with some [TS]

00:39:35   radioactive insects ya never know what a [TS]

00:39:38   jetpack chip get a jack to step to [TS]

00:39:40   practice that Lauren green impression [TS]

00:39:42   that I hear you when you are three feet [TS]

00:39:44   from a spider right now the power is in [TS]

00:39:48   your hands the walls are talking this is [TS]

00:39:51   the most concentrated relationship [TS]

00:39:52   advice I've ever received the world with [TS]

00:39:57   our everywhere not just extremely itchy [TS]

00:40:00   spider bite something that moving onto [TS]

00:40:02   the shirt all our next match up we have [TS]

00:40:04   number 11 the Invisible Woman Sue Storm [TS]

00:40:06   Richards who's gonna be advocated by [TS]

00:40:08   Lisa against number three the flash this [TS]

00:40:11   flash is the Barry Allen flash will be [TS]

00:40:13   argued by Tony Lisa please tell us about [TS]

00:40:17   the invisible woman you could argue of [TS]

00:40:19   course that she deserves to go to the [TS]

00:40:20   next round because the world the woman [TS]

00:40:21   deserves something after years of being [TS]

00:40:23   married to read Richards [TS]

00:40:25   preventing him from taking over the [TS]

00:40:26   world through someone's got guided [TS]

00:40:28   paternalistic but science sooo scheme [TS]

00:40:31   that he's come up with because if we've [TS]

00:40:33   established anything it's that Reed [TS]

00:40:35   Richards is a jerk [TS]

00:40:36   however the real reason that Sue Storm [TS]

00:40:39   rocks the house is because she has of [TS]

00:40:44   course hard to become invisible which is [TS]

00:40:46   incredibly useful from a tactical [TS]

00:40:48   perspective [TS]

00:40:49   she's got an invisible force field which [TS]

00:40:51   can be used for both offensive and [TS]

00:40:53   defensive capabilities and again I want [TS]

00:40:56   to stress invisible so a very potent [TS]

00:40:59   especially in battles with alien races [TS]

00:41:01   but the real reason that she did she's [TS]

00:41:05   right she should be correctly regarded [TS]

00:41:07   as one of the heavy hitters in marble is [TS]

00:41:09   her tremendous strength of character [TS]

00:41:10   she's the beating heart of the fantastic [TS]

00:41:12   for family and she's unswervingly [TS]

00:41:15   dedicated to protecting the weak and [TS]

00:41:16   creating a more just world that's a lot [TS]

00:41:19   of yourself to give to two very big very [TS]

00:41:22   fractious causes and most of the time [TS]

00:41:24   soon holds herself to really rigorous [TS]

00:41:25   ethical standard she argue those [TS]

00:41:28   standards she's on argue them with and [TS]

00:41:31   against the x-men she's arguing with and [TS]

00:41:33   against very offenders she's even like [TS]

00:41:35   left her husband at at times when she [TS]

00:41:37   thought he said she thought he was out [TS]

00:41:38   of hand and she's also resisted the [TS]

00:41:41   advances of name or four decades upon [TS]

00:41:43   decades now which is kind of difficult [TS]

00:41:44   because he's basically the ryan lochte [TS]

00:41:47   of Atlantis he could give her kingdoms [TS]

00:41:49   and add that she could grate cheese on [TS]

00:41:51   and the quality of not being read [TS]

00:41:52   Richard and she always resist this to [TS]

00:41:55   fight the good fight on the land [TS]

00:41:56   um you know sue fights to hold thinks [TS]

00:41:59   things through constantly instead of [TS]

00:42:00   reacting emotionally and instinctively [TS]

00:42:02   which is a surprisingly rare quality in [TS]

00:42:05   the Marvel Universe she's basically [TS]

00:42:07   Aristotelian she's the golden mean in in [TS]

00:42:10   her morals or ethics and her actions and [TS]

00:42:13   it could almost be said that her real [TS]

00:42:14   superpower is is being invisible for [TS]

00:42:17   that her brand of selfless leadership [TS]

00:42:18   helps other people thrive [TS]

00:42:20   alright thank you Lisa Tony tell us [TS]

00:42:22   about Barry Allen the flash so you know [TS]

00:42:26   I I don't have anything against the [TS]

00:42:28   invisible woman um you know I kind of [TS]

00:42:30   feel like I mean I kind of feel like [TS]

00:42:33   they gave out the really cool powers in [TS]

00:42:36   the Fantastic Four first and then [TS]

00:42:37   carjacked [TS]

00:42:38   what stuff for her and they're like well [TS]

00:42:39   invisibility is not enough [TS]

00:42:41   so how about you get to do force fields [TS]

00:42:43   and psychic waves and stuff and you know [TS]

00:42:45   I I feel like they didn't really give [TS]

00:42:46   her a fair shake and basically her [TS]

00:42:48   greatest superpower is that she can [TS]

00:42:49   tolerate Reed Richards um and yeah okay [TS]

00:42:53   I feel like this I feel like but I feel [TS]

00:42:55   like all these superhero around [TS]

00:42:57   definitely do dinner into let's talk [TS]

00:42:58   about how much we can't read richards [TS]

00:43:00   and indian taco is very very angry [TS]

00:43:02   out-there so you will be judged by the [TS]

00:43:03   company you bleep please please please [TS]

00:43:05   continue please tell us some about more [TS]

00:43:07   about the flash Tony the flash well [TS]

00:43:09   specifically Barry Allen uh who is [TS]

00:43:12   lovable he's fun he's another one of [TS]

00:43:15   these boy scout superheroes but I feel [TS]

00:43:17   like his his version of the boys got [TS]

00:43:18   superheroes a little bit more noble and [TS]

00:43:20   an altruistic than even Superman mean [TS]

00:43:23   like you know it's a little bit easier [TS]

00:43:24   to always do the right thing when you're [TS]

00:43:26   literally invincible and all-powerful [TS]

00:43:27   and you know the flash is certainly very [TS]

00:43:29   powerful superhero but he has he has [TS]

00:43:32   some limitations and he you know he [TS]

00:43:33   feels pain for example in a lot of the [TS]

00:43:35   iterations um I have been a devoted [TS]

00:43:38   follower of the Church of Batman for a [TS]

00:43:39   long time but in the last year i have i [TS]

00:43:42   have left the flash into my heart [TS]

00:43:44   through the flash TV series and i also [TS]

00:43:46   read a lot of flash comics and in the [TS]

00:43:48   last year and Barry Allen is just is [TS]

00:43:50   really great i really like his sense of [TS]

00:43:52   humor up because usually a sense of [TS]

00:43:54   humor in a comic book hero is like that [TS]

00:43:57   the Jackass antihero sense of humor [TS]

00:43:59   sorry Lobo and Deadpool and those guys [TS]

00:44:01   but I don't really care for you and [TS]

00:44:03   Barry Allen is is kind of just fun and [TS]

00:44:06   light-hearted and humorous and just a [TS]

00:44:08   sincere great hero who I just think he's [TS]

00:44:11   just a nice guy I want him to win [TS]

00:44:13   everything he does [TS]

00:44:15   alright our listeners echoed some of [TS]

00:44:19   what Lisa said about superpower of [TS]

00:44:22   living with mr. fantastic and ability to [TS]

00:44:24   tolerate name what 11 pointed note from [TS]

00:44:29   a listener said i have no need for the [TS]

00:44:30   flash and and another mr. making citing [TS]

00:44:34   the very strong our actor argument that [TS]

00:44:36   grant grant gustin is greater than [TS]

00:44:38   jessica alba which you know pulling out [TS]

00:44:40   just call but strong actor comparisons [TS]

00:44:43   get tricky [TS]

00:44:43   yeah i also mentioned it within the [TS]

00:44:45   Justice League animated series the flash [TS]

00:44:48   in that version is called Wally West but [TS]

00:44:50   I feel I mean it's clearly [TS]

00:44:52   like an amalgamated version because he's [TS]

00:44:53   kind of I would say he's more of a Barry [TS]

00:44:55   Allen flash than even though the [TS]

00:44:56   character is Wally West alright let's go [TS]

00:44:59   to the judges on this [TS]

00:45:00   ah Phil what do you say this has been [TS]

00:45:04   the most troubling debate that I've [TS]

00:45:07   heard thus far tonight with the [TS]

00:45:10   exception of the shots at Reed Richards [TS]

00:45:11   which are fantastic and I helped us keep [TS]

00:45:14   coming throughout the evening [TS]

00:45:16   um wish miser fails to say one negative [TS]

00:45:21   word about a Barry Allen despite this [TS]

00:45:25   being one of the requirements of the [TS]

00:45:28   round 11 wonders if she was protecting [TS]

00:45:30   her sweet podcast corner of the earth [TS]

00:45:35   there's this brandon to consider got [TS]

00:45:37   really doing that on the other hand the [TS]

00:45:45   other guy said some things and kind of [TS]

00:45:49   backhanded stuff about c-store kinda [TS]

00:45:52   tough tough tough call i am going to [TS]

00:45:59   help ya church is the Church of Batman [TS]

00:46:02   he's the the church of the flash pic [TS]

00:46:04   aside sir [TS]

00:46:06   there can only be one has decided [TS]

00:46:08   justice a league from this is a [TS]

00:46:11   polytheist what you want [TS]

00:46:12   yeah why you can't be a polytheist in [TS]

00:46:15   the DC Universe yeah i mean there are [TS]

00:46:17   literally said well on that note that [TS]

00:46:19   it's it's a lisa has defended her [TS]

00:46:21   opponent I rule in favor of Barry Allen [TS]

00:46:26   alright almost fried you brought against [TS]

00:46:28   me twice in one night Michaels one [TS]

00:46:31   letter in separate rooms you may have to [TS]

00:46:33   stay there I see what are your rulings [TS]

00:46:35   well it seems like a lot of the argument [TS]

00:46:39   in favor of invisible girl woman yes [TS]

00:46:43   he's lying he's a silent is based on the [TS]

00:46:47   fact that we should pity her [TS]

00:46:49   I believe that's invisible girl you'll [TS]

00:46:50   be an invisible woman soon [TS]

00:46:52   yeah uh however piss poor judgment and [TS]

00:46:56   husbands does not earn one extra [TS]

00:46:58   consideration as you wish my eyes are no [TS]

00:47:00   doubt aware [TS]

00:47:02   yeah i think i'd say about this judge [TS]

00:47:10   fite can begin the judges rule against [TS]

00:47:13   each other [TS]

00:47:14   I cannot be swayed to pity Sue Storm [TS]

00:47:16   Richards based entirely on that I [TS]

00:47:19   however what does sway me to pity her is [TS]

00:47:21   I is is mr. single argument that the [TS]

00:47:25   character was not given a fair shake [TS]

00:47:27   with her powers which is rich coming [TS]

00:47:29   from somebody who is advocating a [TS]

00:47:31   character whose entire power is he's [TS]

00:47:33   real fast so i have to go with Sue Storm [TS]

00:47:37   Richards as a as a minor pity vote okay [TS]

00:47:42   well that that that splits the judges [TS]

00:47:44   and leads to the the people's voice [TS]

00:47:47   being heard the people in the closest [TS]

00:47:51   vote of all of the matchups the people [TS]

00:47:55   it wasn't that close it was still 15 57% [TS]

00:47:58   for Barry Allen as the flash [TS]

00:48:01   wow the flash moves on to the next round [TS]

00:48:05   that was that hasn't been stealing I [TS]

00:48:06   mean that it's TV if Susan long shower [TS]

00:48:09   of to be and lash and the negative power [TS]

00:48:12   of jessica allbutt perhaps we we move on [TS]

00:48:16   to number seven ghost rider who's going [TS]

00:48:20   to be argued by films lack versus number [TS]

00:48:24   to the Hulk will be on argued by Monty [TS]

00:48:27   actually Mo's you may go first tell us [TS]

00:48:30   about ghost rider first of all it would [TS]

00:48:32   seem that I am the underdog in this but [TS]

00:48:35   I'm really not because I will actually [TS]

00:48:38   again use the cage defense [TS]

00:48:42   in saying that any actor who has played [TS]

00:48:46   the whole [TS]

00:48:48   has never gotten an Oscar [TS]

00:48:51   Oh Nick Cage has oh look at that [TS]

00:48:55   so I'm going to nullify that right there [TS]

00:48:57   first of all ghost rider is a motorcycle [TS]

00:48:59   hero immortalized by song by The Suicide [TS]

00:49:02   been remade by henry rollins he's got an [TS]

00:49:06   iconic look you look at ghost rider and [TS]

00:49:09   you see this guy on fire with a skull [TS]

00:49:12   just completely ablaze [TS]

00:49:13   it's awesome The Hulk is a war is it [TS]

00:49:16   just a boring rage slog purple pants [TS]

00:49:20   really come on let's get real and I you [TS]

00:49:25   know [TS]

00:49:27   Nick Cage i'm still pull it out I mean [TS]

00:49:29   he's got he's the best actor of all the [TS]

00:49:33   actors that have played up with that guy [TS]

00:49:35   at the green guy [TS]

00:49:37   that's in all right interesting argument [TS]

00:49:40   there we're going to move to your [TS]

00:49:43   counterpart mr. Monty Ashley to talk [TS]

00:49:45   about that green guy the Hulk Monty [TS]

00:49:46   thank you Jason first i will remind the [TS]

00:49:50   judges Hulk of course smash at but not [TS]

00:49:54   only does Hulk smash Hulk think remember [TS]

00:49:58   haha [TS]

00:50:03   Hulk isn't just the strongest creature [TS]

00:50:07   in the universe [TS]

00:50:08   he also turned into a puny super smart [TS]

00:50:11   scientists sometimes that's fun and [TS]

00:50:14   sometimes Hulk is both strong and smart [TS]

00:50:16   because they get look to be honest i'm [TS]

00:50:19   making my argument as weak as possible [TS]

00:50:22   because i don't want hope to smash up [TS]

00:50:24   puny little motorcycle man i feel bad [TS]

00:50:27   for puny little motorcycle man he's a [TS]

00:50:30   demon he can he outlived the Hulk any [TS]

00:50:32   day of the week sorry I'm sorry [TS]

00:50:35   order order Albert will not be tolerated [TS]

00:50:37   no no no thatthat's right as the hoax [TS]

00:50:41   advocate i am fully aware of the [TS]

00:50:44   importance of giving vent to whatever [TS]

00:50:46   momentary rages in conclusion there was [TS]

00:50:54   a time when heart ghostrider burn there [TS]

00:50:57   was a time when the Hulk went off to a [TS]

00:50:58   separate planet because he'd smashed up [TS]

00:51:00   everything on this planet and on that [TS]

00:51:02   other planet he smashed up everything [TS]

00:51:04   there [TS]

00:51:06   ghost rider on the other hand is Ghost [TS]

00:51:08   Rider [TS]

00:51:09   alright well good really really busted [TS]

00:51:13   out the technologies early on that was [TS]

00:51:15   wrong that was strong master [TS]

00:51:17   technologies Lister said Mark Ruffalo [TS]

00:51:21   greater than nicolas cage [TS]

00:51:23   Hulk smash don't care neither is Batman [TS]

00:51:26   this is a running theme and Hulk [TS]

00:51:29   represents the struggle of our inner [TS]

00:51:30   demons ghostwriters a man with a burning [TS]

00:51:33   skull on a motorcycle so there you go i [TS]

00:51:35   take that for what it's worth Steve [TS]

00:51:37   ghostwrite it represents the inner [TS]

00:51:39   struggle how hard it is to get [TS]

00:51:40   motorcycle insurance when you're playing [TS]

00:51:42   sculpt a deal is not [TS]

00:51:44   yeah wow I I sense that these two [TS]

00:51:47   advocates went to the same law school [TS]

00:51:49   they've been my face and enemies for a [TS]

00:51:53   long time [TS]

00:51:54   mmm well it's interesting to go with the [TS]

00:51:57   cage defense i agree i mean it's it's [TS]

00:52:00   it's irrefutable fact that cage has an [TS]

00:52:02   Oscar it is also irrefutable fact that [TS]

00:52:04   not the bees not the base coach that [TS]

00:52:10   said Owen and I also I don't take kindly [TS]

00:52:13   as the owner of several pair of purple [TS]

00:52:16   pants to your your your anti purple [TS]

00:52:20   pants bias i advocate were against Lee [TS]

00:52:23   the orange job shirt and the yeah and [TS]

00:52:26   the green pants but neither of these [TS]

00:52:28   things are really going to play into my [TS]

00:52:31   my ultimate decision [TS]

00:52:33   the thing that will play into my [TS]

00:52:34   ultimate decision in the end is the fact [TS]

00:52:36   that the Hulk [TS]

00:52:38   well that's fun that's fun [TS]

00:52:43   Hulk is fun I'm swayed by that argument [TS]

00:52:45   i'm going to the Hulk all right Phil [TS]

00:52:48   what do you say I wish to focus on this [TS]

00:52:50   actor argument [TS]

00:52:51   mackage yes has won an Oscar eat that [TS]

00:52:54   before he was reduced reduced mind you [TS]

00:52:57   two playing ghost writer have other [TS]

00:53:00   actors is Nick Cage better than other [TS]

00:53:04   actors who played hope I point you to [TS]

00:53:06   build big speed start in clambake with [TS]

00:53:09   Elvis Presley right Paige has not been [TS]

00:53:12   Elvis Presley movie decay just a poor [TS]

00:53:15   imitation of Elvis Presley in many [TS]

00:53:17   movies the judgment here is for the [TS]

00:53:20   whole that's two nothing for the whole [TS]

00:53:23   point out a 2015 oscar-nominee although [TS]

00:53:26   we didn't win mark ruffalo so at most [TS]

00:53:28   Hulk the Hulk got eighty-five percent of [TS]

00:53:32   the popular vote they agree broadly with [TS]

00:53:35   the judges let's go to the electrical [TS]

00:53:37   costs that the Vulcans and all precincts [TS]

00:53:40   reporting in the Hulk has has that one [TS]

00:53:43   in the bag brown county has yet to [TS]

00:53:47   report i think in fact that that might [TS]

00:53:49   be our biggest margin of victory with [TS]

00:53:52   the Hulk I will reveal that now that's [TS]

00:53:54   right the Hulk not bad man who comes now [TS]

00:53:57   number one seed Batman will be argued by [TS]

00:54:00   Tony an acolyte in the Church of Batman [TS]

00:54:02   and number eight seed black widow who [TS]

00:54:05   will be argued by Lisa Lisa you may go [TS]

00:54:07   first tell us about the Black Widow the [TS]

00:54:08   Black Widow is mentally tough as batman [TS]

00:54:10   because like Batman her strength of [TS]

00:54:12   character was forged in lost but unlike [TS]

00:54:15   Batman she's had to reconstruct her [TS]

00:54:17   personality because their handlers took [TS]

00:54:18   it all away and she's had to do it [TS]

00:54:20   without any of the advantages that [TS]

00:54:22   Batman has enjoyed as wealthy playboy [TS]

00:54:24   Bruce Wayne the Black Widow knows that [TS]

00:54:27   the hardest thing to do is to rebuild [TS]

00:54:28   yourself from the ground up and the [TS]

00:54:30   person Italian romanova chooses to be is [TS]

00:54:32   remarkable [TS]

00:54:33   she chooses to be competent loyal and [TS]

00:54:35   intent on doing penance penance for her [TS]

00:54:37   earlier actions [TS]

00:54:38   she's also very pragmatic which is an [TS]

00:54:40   admirable little scene treating [TS]

00:54:42   superheroes [TS]

00:54:43   we need more realpolitik are superheroes [TS]

00:54:45   she brings it in spades [TS]

00:54:47   also she's resourceful she's quiet she's [TS]

00:54:50   efficient and she and she's an excellent [TS]

00:54:52   team player not some weird loner in a [TS]

00:54:54   cave in fact it's black widows [TS]

00:54:56   relationships with others that have [TS]

00:54:57   helped her discover her own humanity and [TS]

00:55:00   helped her bring out the best in other [TS]

00:55:01   people often in paradoxical situations [TS]

00:55:03   her ability to bring out the best in [TS]

00:55:06   others while discovering the best [TS]

00:55:08   herself has made her a powerful and [TS]

00:55:10   effective superhero you have somebody [TS]

00:55:12   whose greatest super parents reside [TS]

00:55:13   between her ears she can do espionage [TS]

00:55:16   she can do infiltration she can do [TS]

00:55:17   extraction she's excellent the longview [TS]

00:55:20   she's excellent planning ahead she's [TS]

00:55:21   excellent improvising in a pinch in a [TS]

00:55:23   21st century world she has the skills [TS]

00:55:26   you need to excel the superhero game [TS]

00:55:28   alright Tony talk to us about Batman I [TS]

00:55:31   would like to cite my earlier argument [TS]

00:55:33   which i believe is also cited heavily by [TS]

00:55:35   the listeners in the poll which is he's [TS]

00:55:38   Batman yes several hundred listeners [TS]

00:55:41   game because he's Batman as their reason [TS]

00:55:44   that's our original that's entirely [TS]

00:55:46   original oh so I mean I i do think Black [TS]

00:55:50   Widow is great i think black was [TS]

00:55:51   probably the most interesting character [TS]

00:55:53   in The Avengers and that she deserves [TS]

00:55:54   her own movie or three but Batman is [TS]

00:55:57   Batman I to me you know he is the most [TS]

00:56:00   iconic superhero out there and you know [TS]

00:56:03   not everyone is a big fan of Batman some [TS]

00:56:04   people criticized that because Bruce [TS]

00:56:07   Wayne is not interesting Batman is not [TS]

00:56:08   interesting and Bruce Wayne is not that [TS]

00:56:10   interesting [TS]

00:56:10   Bruce Wayne basically exist for tax [TS]

00:56:12   purposes ok that's enough that I can pay [TS]

00:56:15   for all this stuff because Batman [TS]

00:56:18   islands and forty that does Batman he [TS]

00:56:20   just graduated that's already planning [TS]

00:56:23   to have another economic argument yes [TS]

00:56:25   the swiss account of super-heroes and [TS]

00:56:31   you know Batman Batman is crazy right i [TS]

00:56:33   mean Batman is someone who is dealing [TS]

00:56:35   with things and not in the right way up [TS]

00:56:37   but that way gets results [TS]

00:56:39   you know he's the world's greatest [TS]

00:56:41   detective and he does do a lot of [TS]

00:56:44   brooding and threatening to throw people [TS]

00:56:46   off rooftops and sometimes throwing [TS]

00:56:47   people off of you know not too high [TS]

00:56:49   rooftops so that they get really hurt [TS]

00:56:51   but not killed because that's important [TS]

00:56:53   but Batman is just amazing there's tons [TS]

00:56:55   of Batman media out there and you can [TS]

00:56:56   throw out the the horrible stuff and [TS]

00:56:59   there's still tons of stuff out out [TS]

00:57:02   there that's good [TS]

00:57:03   honestly I think the opening credits of [TS]

00:57:05   the batman animated series like a minute [TS]

00:57:07   is better than about forty percent of [TS]

00:57:09   the Marvel Cinematic Universe and and [TS]

00:57:11   and that man is great that may be with [TS]

00:57:14   you [TS]

00:57:14   in addition thank you and always also [TS]

00:57:16   with you Tony the in addition to the 500 [TS]

00:57:20   people who said because he's Batman I to [TS]

00:57:21   other comments i wanted to float out [TS]

00:57:23   here from the listeners one simply said [TS]

00:57:25   Ben Affleck for Scarlett Johansson come [TS]

00:57:27   on and another said black widows parents [TS]

00:57:31   are dead too but you don't hear her [TS]

00:57:32   crying about it [TS]

00:57:33   yeah so some comments from the listeners [TS]

00:57:35   and all thing [TS]

00:57:37   oh goodness too soon too soon [TS]

00:57:41   let's say we'll go with to fill here [TS]

00:57:43   Phil what do you think val kilmer Ben [TS]

00:57:47   Affleck Adam West my Batman is Kevin [TS]

00:57:51   Conroy so that is that's my in my [TS]

00:57:54   worldview interesting [TS]

00:57:55   Michael Keaton interesting [TS]

00:57:56   counter-argument I enjoy watching black [TS]

00:58:02   widow [TS]

00:58:03   I have to grit my teeth too watch back [TS]

00:58:05   and I couldn't help but notice that [TS]

00:58:08   mister uh mister mister similar had much [TS]

00:58:14   praise for Black Widow in his argument [TS]

00:58:17   and no con I might have no calm [TS]

00:58:20   no I buddy icon is that that she has not [TS]

00:58:23   been so which is really a contact cheryl [TS]

00:58:26   out a lot of people in the world [TS]

00:58:27   every day I walk through my life unhappy [TS]

00:58:31   people around me are not yet Batman [TS]

00:58:33   never will easily better wear that would [TS]

00:58:35   be pretty bad i watched many episodes of [TS]

00:58:37   Gotham before I finally gave up on the [TS]

00:58:39   show you know what the problem with that [TS]

00:58:42   show is not enough Batman [TS]

00:58:43   mm no I blame that show on BET and it's [TS]

00:58:46   getting here [TS]

00:58:48   you may have silence animal the right [TS]

00:58:51   here you know what that feels better [TS]

00:58:56   than what he says my name rocks [TS]

00:58:58   thank you toby the really fat heart is [TS]

00:59:02   saying animal was is saying your last [TS]

00:59:04   name wrong is for Black Widow [TS]

00:59:07   Oh Steve what do you have [TS]

00:59:11   willis and i gotta tell you so sick of [TS]

00:59:15   Batman his memory where man the Batman [TS]

00:59:19   market is oversaturated just like [TS]

00:59:21   zombies everywhere you look you can't [TS]

00:59:23   throw a freaking rock without hitting [TS]

00:59:24   Batman or some parable Batman clone or [TS]

00:59:27   some animated series steve did you know [TS]

00:59:29   sword you're never more than three feet [TS]

00:59:30   away from batman i have noticed that yes [TS]

00:59:34   thank you [TS]

00:59:35   point of order i think you can throw a [TS]

00:59:36   rock without hitting a batman because [TS]

00:59:37   bad probably would ya in fact killer [TS]

00:59:40   truck tried that uh and that origin [TS]

00:59:42   story oh poor whiny billionaire [TS]

00:59:45   inherited his riches a little early boo [TS]

00:59:47   though he's got a butler to wipe his [TS]

00:59:51   nose in any other orifice that happens [TS]

00:59:53   to drip Batman to it once [TS]

00:59:53   to drip Batman to it once [TS]

01:00:00   creepy most still here i can't i can't [TS]

01:00:09   help myself i still gotta go with that [TS]

01:00:11   that that puts it in the hands of the [TS]

01:00:17   listeners out I feel pretty safe as I [TS]

01:00:20   said I i quoted all the negative things [TS]

01:00:22   about about Batman and he did not [TS]

01:00:24   receive the highest total however it was [TS]

01:00:27   still seventy-three percent of the vote [TS]

01:00:28   for back Batman moves on to the next [TS]

01:00:30   round but it was well thought with the [TS]

01:00:31   Black Widow I thought I thought for a [TS]

01:00:33   moment was gonna happen but alas it did [TS]

01:00:36   not thanks predictable nerds [TS]

01:00:39   let's move on to the next win Tony [TS]

01:00:42   simpler is back he's going to be talking [TS]

01:00:44   about daredevil and daredevil is going [TS]

01:00:47   up against number 13 seed upset winter [TS]

01:00:50   moon night will be argued by dan moore [TS]

01:00:52   and Dan give us some moon night [TS]

01:00:55   alright what we feel like we covered a [TS]

01:00:57   lot of rich ground in round one but let [TS]

01:01:01   me remind you that moon night it's [TS]

01:01:03   freaking crazy and I don't mean that in [TS]

01:01:06   the way that like yeah Batman is working [TS]

01:01:08   through his anxiety issues is like a [TS]

01:01:10   bandit by his parents when I got [TS]

01:01:12   multiple personalities including like a [TS]

01:01:14   dead Egyptian god is made of like bones [TS]

01:01:17   and as a bird and then other [TS]

01:01:19   personalities that are like wolverine [TS]

01:01:21   and spider-man so do legitimately [TS]

01:01:24   clinically insane also well known for [TS]

01:01:28   the fact that he's pretty brutal i do [TS]

01:01:31   enjoy his description of his fighting [TS]

01:01:33   style as someone who would rather take a [TS]

01:01:35   punch then dodge one so we just kind of [TS]

01:01:38   throws himself into things with [TS]

01:01:39   abandoned the fact that he operates [TS]

01:01:42   under a variety of different pseudonyms [TS]

01:01:44   and you know sort of just kind of [TS]

01:01:46   wanders around without really a mission [TS]

01:01:50   is kind of attempting to do good but the [TS]

01:01:52   same time I don't think he's this this [TS]

01:01:54   is the kind of well just the guy you [TS]

01:01:56   wanted your barometer for that thing [TS]

01:01:58   so in in short he's insane but it's kind [TS]

01:02:01   of delightful to watch and a while I [TS]

01:02:04   have nothing but the utmost respect for [TS]

01:02:05   for Matt Murdock who is you know [TS]

01:02:07   obviously achieved a law degree despite [TS]

01:02:09   the disability i also have to question [TS]

01:02:11   the fact that it you know [TS]

01:02:13   I was heralded as a superhero was [TS]

01:02:16   disabled basically his superpower is [TS]

01:02:19   that he can still see which seems kind [TS]

01:02:21   of insulting to me also kind of [TS]

01:02:24   insulting Ben Affleck as daredevil at [TS]

01:02:27   low blow man I rest my case [TS]

01:02:29   alright Tony yeah I you know I I am I [TS]

01:02:33   feel a little bad talking talking bad [TS]

01:02:35   about Batman are I'm sorry moon night [TS]

01:02:38   miles back and out of play bomb and you [TS]

01:02:42   know I think I i think i like moon night [TS]

01:02:45   but i actually don't really know much [TS]

01:02:47   about Who night for example I cannot [TS]

01:02:48   name unite secret identity dan probably [TS]

01:02:51   can he's done the research but i feel [TS]

01:02:53   like i should be able to name which [TS]

01:02:54   everyone because he's got more than one [TS]

01:02:56   and I can't name any of them are there [TS]

01:02:58   pamphlets from the Church of moon night [TS]

01:03:00   that could be handed out at this point I [TS]

01:03:01   believe he is repeatable training so the [TS]

01:03:03   answer is yes excellent [TS]

01:03:06   ah so I mean because but my main my main [TS]

01:03:09   counter-argument is who is moon night [TS]

01:03:12   because i think most people are not [TS]

01:03:14   familiar with moon night even I think [TS]

01:03:15   you have to you have to kind of dig deep [TS]

01:03:17   in the in the comics elves to find the [TS]

01:03:19   moon night and on the other side of the [TS]

01:03:21   equation we have daredevil The Man [TS]

01:03:24   Without Fear we're seeing a lot of love [TS]

01:03:27   for characters who are doing well in [TS]

01:03:29   their current media properties and and [TS]

01:03:31   daredevil is killing it in that in that [TS]

01:03:33   in the Netflix show which great show i [TS]

01:03:36   recommend everybody I and daredevil is [TS]

01:03:39   you know he is he's this kind of real [TS]

01:03:42   street level i get 0 who basically one [TS]

01:03:45   of his superpowers is like he'll take a [TS]

01:03:47   beating and still get back up [TS]

01:03:49   are you know saving hell's kitchen from [TS]

01:03:51   all kinds of strange things that are [TS]

01:03:52   happening in a ten-block radius near his [TS]

01:03:54   house and he's also by day a lawyer with [TS]

01:03:58   a heart of gold [TS]

01:03:59   um yes he has been played by Ben Affleck [TS]

01:04:01   but we you know Ben Affleck at this [TS]

01:04:02   point is played a lot of heroes or will [TS]

01:04:04   have so you know we can't hold that too [TS]

01:04:06   much against him so I think you know [TS]

01:04:08   moonlight has maybe a lot of potential [TS]

01:04:09   but it has not been realized to the [TS]

01:04:11   extent that daredevil has a daredevil [TS]

01:04:13   will continue to be as the show goes [TS]

01:04:15   forward so they're double all the way [TS]

01:04:17   all right here's some some listener [TS]

01:04:20   feedback not only is daredevil much [TS]

01:04:23   better he has much better enemies like [TS]

01:04:25   the kingpin who [TS]

01:04:26   the moon nights enemies lunar landing [TS]

01:04:28   denialists another another listener [TS]

01:04:33   rights in who is moonlight that's [TS]

01:04:39   another another another with no rights [TS]

01:04:41   in moon night because he's Batman and [TS]

01:04:45   finally tonight [TS]

01:04:47   really anyway those are the listener [TS]

01:04:49   comments well I feel those were and [TS]

01:04:51   unfairly scheme that was our copier any [TS]

01:04:54   promo night i feel like because he's mad [TS]

01:04:56   man that was a pro moon tonight is bad [TS]

01:04:59   man you have anything better to submit [TS]

01:05:01   on behalf of Egyptian moon god I on [TS]

01:05:03   China friend i'm afraid the listeners [TS]

01:05:05   don't Steve what are you what's your [TS]

01:05:07   ruling read daredevil one questions [TS]

01:05:11   should Hell's Kitchen be saved [TS]

01:05:15   what is the point of that I mean people [TS]

01:05:17   people live there [TS]

01:05:18   yeah let you or people dying we're [TS]

01:05:21   getting his houses [TS]

01:05:22   yeah I mean people live there steve [TS]

01:05:24   gordon ramsay's gotta eat [TS]

01:05:27   also I the the whole lawyer with a heart [TS]

01:05:29   of my old a storyline that beggars [TS]

01:05:33   belief [TS]

01:05:34   well Wow now your honor where did you [TS]

01:05:38   gotta love summer cummings i feel it's [TS]

01:05:40   their continuity errors in this [TS]

01:05:44   courtroom regarding moon and makes it [TS]

01:05:47   appropriate for the source material [TS]

01:05:48   healthy [TS]

01:05:49   yeah alright calm this all be fine mr. [TS]

01:05:51   Morin you point out that moon night is [TS]

01:05:54   freaking crazy i believe the phrase was [TS]

01:05:56   yeah i would i would agree with you say [TS]

01:05:58   freaking oh I I said yes okay just want [TS]

01:06:02   to verify yesterday it's interesting [TS]

01:06:04   because in the previous round Tony said [TS]

01:06:06   very much the same thing about Batman [TS]

01:06:08   yeah that's that's child's play you also [TS]

01:06:10   mentioned he's somewhat brutal in the [TS]

01:06:12   way he dispatches his enemies that to [TS]

01:06:15   sound suspiciously like Batman you know [TS]

01:06:18   how much I love Batman [TS]

01:06:19   yeah i mean you voted for him you know I [TS]

01:06:22   mean he's ya on the other hand I gotta [TS]

01:06:26   go to the moon [TS]

01:06:32   I mean how can you not go with moon are [TS]

01:06:34   fair enough [TS]

01:06:36   no money changed hands everybody no [TS]

01:06:37   money changed hands Phil Michaels what [TS]

01:06:40   what would say you mr. Sinclair has a [TS]

01:06:43   funny half of really defending and a [TS]

01:06:48   half black characters that you deal the [TS]

01:06:52   hand you're dealt periodic on the other [TS]

01:06:54   hand this Court stands in Admiral hi [TS]

01:06:58   admiration for moon night and her [TS]

01:07:00   portrayal as Punky Brewster that's in [TS]

01:07:07   front all i'll take it I'll take it and [TS]

01:07:09   I can't believe you did that fair and [TS]

01:07:14   sherry you were in on this tool somewhat [TS]

01:07:16   by night somewhat by day moonlighting [TS]

01:07:19   strangers who get lost on the way I vote [TS]

01:07:22   for moon nights are you sure you don't [TS]

01:07:25   have anymore i could maybe use its [TS]

01:07:26   television downside is we wanted to [TS]

01:07:29   dance [TS]

01:07:30   god I hope I don't have to judge the [TS]

01:07:31   next round because I got nothing [TS]

01:07:33   literally no other way for me to win [TS]

01:07:35   that everybody's favorite moon knight [TS]

01:07:38   moves on to the next round where we will [TS]

01:07:41   have the most perplexing magical a [TS]

01:07:43   lifetime where moon night will face [TS]

01:07:45   Batman listeners the listeners voted [TS]

01:07:49   eighty-two percent for daredevil Welbeck [TS]

01:07:52   wrong [TS]

01:07:53   I've checked this is a miscarriage in [TS]

01:07:56   every shape or form you know what was he [TS]

01:07:59   would listen to bad but i kinda want to [TS]

01:08:01   live in a crazy world where moon that [TS]

01:08:02   goes all the way up [TS]

01:08:03   yeah fair enough delighted just want to [TS]

01:08:08   see Batman first Batman we move on to [TS]

01:08:10   the next round number six seed Barbara [TS]

01:08:12   Gordon who is Batgirl and Oracle will be [TS]

01:08:15   advocated by Shannon against number [TS]

01:08:18   three seed green arrow who will be [TS]

01:08:20   advocated by her husband chip Shannon [TS]

01:08:22   ships to go first [TS]

01:08:24   it's an end yes that's right it's an [TS]

01:08:25   in-house battle between that girl and [TS]

01:08:29   green arrow Shannon what do you have for [TS]

01:08:31   us while the reason for the creation of [TS]

01:08:35   the Barbara Gordon Batgirl is rooted in [TS]

01:08:37   the 1960s Batman TV show pursuing more [TS]

01:08:40   female viewers here that Marvel CDR [TS]

01:08:42   merchandising creators sees their chance [TS]

01:08:45   and created a comics origin story that [TS]

01:08:47   draws the young woman into superheroing [TS]

01:08:49   by having her fulfill every cause [TS]

01:08:52   players secret dream dressed as a female [TS]

01:08:55   Batman for a party she prevent [TS]

01:08:57   unintended kidnapping of Bruce Wayne [TS]

01:08:59   she then rises to the occasion for all [TS]

01:09:01   female fans by ignoring Batman as he [TS]

01:09:04   tells her that women shouldn't be [TS]

01:09:05   crime-fighters entered a job that will [TS]

01:09:09   be dr. Gordon head of Gotham City Public [TS]

01:09:11   Library but above all that girl is one [TS]

01:09:15   of the coolest super heroes ever because [TS]

01:09:17   more than any other character her [TS]

01:09:20   creators have been able to make lemonade [TS]

01:09:22   out of lemons repeatedly get shot by the [TS]

01:09:25   Joker as a plot device because alan [TS]

01:09:27   moore was bored she becomes oracle the [TS]

01:09:29   Justice League super google and hacker [TS]

01:09:32   and residents part of the birds of prey [TS]

01:09:33   team and a role model for readers [TS]

01:09:36   dealing with disability healed by [TS]

01:09:38   super-science surgery because of a [TS]

01:09:41   desperate company-wide reboot there's [TS]

01:09:43   the chance to examine mental health [TS]

01:09:45   issues like PTSD and survivor skilled [TS]

01:09:47   and her latest turn going once again for [TS]

01:09:50   that PhD while battling the forces of [TS]

01:09:52   evil shows a character that can adapt to [TS]

01:09:54   society shifts and remain relevant as [TS]

01:09:56   well as an iconic iconic character for [TS]

01:09:59   girls [TS]

01:10:00   Batman readers and all comic geeks [TS]

01:10:02   flat-out she's smart she's capable she's [TS]

01:10:08   fierce and no matter what life happens [TS]

01:10:11   and what life throws at her she just [TS]

01:10:13   keeps on going and you know green arrow [TS]

01:10:17   shoot stuff with with arrows paris from [TS]

01:10:21   the name [TS]

01:10:22   alright thank you shannon chip you can [TS]

01:10:25   speak about green arrow now once again I [TS]

01:10:28   feel like I'm at a great disadvantage [TS]

01:10:29   against my opponent mr. sindelar hey not [TS]

01:10:36   Tony well we're learning some creepy [TS]

01:10:38   things about chip tonight but not Tony I [TS]

01:10:42   thought that I thought the Lord green [TS]

01:10:43   thing was weird but this is a beyond the [TS]

01:10:45   pale [TS]

01:10:45   I feel like this episode's gonna be [TS]

01:10:48   extra confusing for all the people who [TS]

01:10:49   think we all sound the same green arrow [TS]

01:10:53   was created back in 1941 if you can [TS]

01:10:55   believe it and he was basically Batman [TS]

01:10:57   with a bow [TS]

01:10:58   he had an Aerocar he had an aeroplane he [TS]

01:11:00   was a billionaire playboy you take a [TS]

01:11:03   look at him like every five or ten years [TS]

01:11:05   after that all the way up to 2015 he is [TS]

01:11:08   like unrecognizable each time he's been [TS]

01:11:11   so he's been reinvented so many times he [TS]

01:11:14   was comics is first genuinely leftist [TS]

01:11:17   hero he used to have a thing for boxing [TS]

01:11:20   glove arrows and then he gave him up and [TS]

01:11:21   became a grim long bow hunter he's had a [TS]

01:11:24   Robin Hood goatee [TS]

01:11:26   he's been Stephen Amell he's one of the [TS]

01:11:29   few comic book heroes not named Superman [TS]

01:11:32   or Batman or Wonder Woman that kept [TS]

01:11:34   being published when superheroes [TS]

01:11:35   imploded back in the fifties so I ask [TS]

01:11:38   you why is he so persistent why does he [TS]

01:11:41   keep being reinvented instead of just [TS]

01:11:42   I'm just putting away for a couple of [TS]

01:11:45   decades because it is simple as this [TS]

01:11:47   archery is bloody cool it's even cooler [TS]

01:11:51   when you're not Hawkeye and this Archer [TS]

01:11:54   can shoot an arrow down a pistol shaft [TS]

01:11:56   and then closing a point out arrow is [TS]

01:12:00   going into its fourth season on [TS]

01:12:01   television and birds of prey featuring [TS]

01:12:04   Oracle was canceled after 13 episodes [TS]

01:12:07   wow there's a lot of lot less on what [TS]

01:12:10   I'm not unpack their from the listeners [TS]

01:12:12   we had these comments boxing glove arrow [TS]

01:12:14   is all you need to know I think that's [TS]

01:12:16   anti green arrow another 12 routeros [TS]

01:12:18   seriously computers way more relevant [TS]

01:12:22   than bows and arrows another listener [TS]

01:12:24   said I already voted for ladyhawke I [TS]

01:12:26   we've fulfilled our arrow quota she did [TS]

01:12:28   lose my way or another listing wrote he [TS]

01:12:30   shoots arrows and another listener [TS]

01:12:32   simply said arrows though so the [TS]

01:12:36   listings comments [TS]

01:12:37   let's move on to fill it is a [TS]

01:12:44   challenging challenging debate of the [TS]

01:12:47   one hand we have Barbara Gordon you [TS]

01:12:49   cannot pick a alter ego vacillates [TS]

01:12:54   waivers don't like that on the other [TS]

01:12:56   hand have green arrow [TS]

01:12:58   who [TS]

01:12:59   just the poor man's Hawkeye and Hawkeyes [TS]

01:13:02   a very poor man indeed talk is a poor [TS]

01:13:08   man's himself [TS]

01:13:09   I I enjoy the fact that there was some [TS]

01:13:12   slagging off of oracle at the end of not [TS]

01:13:17   Tony's argument okay that I say that [TS]

01:13:25   oracle alright Steve okay let's see here [TS]

01:13:31   I don't know I i was listening to to the [TS]

01:13:35   Oracle advocacy and I don't know [TS]

01:13:38   something about the voice of vest this [TS]

01:13:41   particular advocate it is mesmerizing I [TS]

01:13:45   there was something about cost players [TS]

01:13:46   and there is something about lemonade [TS]

01:13:48   and uh III I really have no idea what [TS]

01:13:51   was said but I don't know what national [TS]

01:13:53   park visitor center educational film i [TS]

01:13:55   stumbled into but i want to watch it man [TS]

01:13:57   that is that is some top-notch advocacy [TS]

01:14:00   good stuff good stuff green arrow icon [TS]

01:14:05   argument appears to be that birds of [TS]

01:14:06   prey was cancelled early on the WB that [TS]

01:14:10   suggests quality to me that said till [TS]

01:14:17   this day i was completely unaware that [TS]

01:14:19   green arrow had something called an [TS]

01:14:21   aeroplane i would say that again an [TS]

01:14:25   arrow play haha ah right know that we're [TS]

01:14:30   supposed to do I think that's awesome as [TS]

01:14:33   an arrow cave that's not a word kind of [TS]

01:14:36   fun [TS]

01:14:36   no I find for the aeroplane it's more [TS]

01:14:42   that that that leads this to a matchup [TS]

01:14:47   that has to be settled by the listeners [TS]

01:14:50   now as a many of you will know arrow a [TS]

01:14:55   very popular show on the the CW so it [TS]

01:14:59   will come as a complete surprise to [TS]

01:15:00   everybody that sixty percent of the [TS]

01:15:03   listeners voted for Barbara Gordon who [TS]

01:15:05   moves on to the next round [TS]

01:15:07   this does not surprise me at all Barbara [TS]

01:15:08   Gordon is awesome I think she's iraq i [TS]

01:15:11   figured the power [TS]

01:15:12   of of arrow wood because if we look at [TS]

01:15:15   arrow in isolation I think perhaps would [TS]

01:15:17   be a stronger argument there's did this [TS]

01:15:18   rehab going on with green arrow but it [TS]

01:15:20   is not yet complete [TS]

01:15:22   we are moving on to number seven [TS]

01:15:24   deadpool will be argued by moes against [TS]

01:15:27   number two [TS]

01:15:27   Wonder Woman argued by Shannon most of [TS]

01:15:29   the underdog with Deadpool you may go [TS]

01:15:31   first want to see how ben affleck that's [TS]

01:15:33   worked into this argument is not [TS]

01:15:36   because Nicholas Cage built I've run out [TS]

01:15:41   of my reverse defenses so I am I now [TS]

01:15:44   have to leave my case I to the [TS]

01:15:47   Honorables and I'm gonna do it in the [TS]

01:15:50   most of the way I I can't point of order [TS]

01:15:52   who are the Honorables well apparently [TS]

01:15:54   they're you but we're gonna go and [TS]

01:15:57   really when Michael's yeah but you know [TS]

01:15:59   that you're not gonna sing a song here [TS]

01:16:00   are you help would come a long way to a [TS]

01:16:03   minute [TS]

01:16:04   Wonder Woman is an icon she's had tons [TS]

01:16:07   of years to be an icon I mean she's 18 [TS]

01:16:09   years old at this point something like [TS]

01:16:11   that she's part of the boat trinity of [TS]

01:16:14   Heroes break so but Deadpool is [TS]

01:16:18   something slightly new slightly [TS]

01:16:21   different [TS]

01:16:22   the guy can see into the fourth wall and [TS]

01:16:25   talk to the actual reader and might I [TS]

01:16:28   also remind the court that Deadpool was [TS]

01:16:32   responsible for destroying the entire [TS]

01:16:35   Marvel Universe with the help of Reed [TS]

01:16:37   Richards of course also and i think this [TS]

01:16:42   is my one of my high points and pillars [TS]

01:16:46   if you will [TS]

01:16:47   deadpool beat cancer [TS]

01:16:51   and to render a verdict against Deadpool [TS]

01:16:54   is a verdict for cancer [TS]

01:16:57   I rest my case okay Shannon ok [TS]

01:17:03   wonder woman was created at the [TS]

01:17:05   direction of the Gods is blessed with [TS]

01:17:08   bountiful gifts from the gods and is a [TS]

01:17:10   goddess herself depending on which point [TS]

01:17:12   the reader jumps in in any of these [TS]

01:17:14   cases she is the premier super heroine [TS]

01:17:17   of the DC universe with a history that [TS]

01:17:19   is about to hit 75 years she has spent [TS]

01:17:22   those years fighting every kind of [TS]

01:17:24   villain the Nazi war machine costumed [TS]

01:17:27   nemec's intergalactic galleons crime [TS]

01:17:29   bosses and more she has gained and lost [TS]

01:17:32   superpowers and almost yo fashion yet [TS]

01:17:35   continued to pursue justice and peace [TS]

01:17:37   with whatever weapons are in her Arsenal [TS]

01:17:40   at the time while not the first female [TS]

01:17:42   superhero and comics she is the one who [TS]

01:17:45   has endured with the most prominence [TS]

01:17:47   evolving with the times she is the icon [TS]

01:17:50   that inspired generations of girls to be [TS]

01:17:52   something more and show generations of [TS]

01:17:54   boys that women can wield power to super [TS]

01:17:57   smart super strong super capable and yet [TS]

01:18:01   almost always acting from a position of [TS]

01:18:03   compassion Wonder Woman has long [TS]

01:18:05   surpassed the hopes of her creators to [TS]

01:18:07   become an undisputable icon of comics [TS]

01:18:10   and mind all of that while mostly [TS]

01:18:13   wearing a bathing suit and heels before [TS]

01:18:15   we go to the judges I will read off a [TS]

01:18:17   couple of comments from our from our [TS]

01:18:19   listeners Deadpool is one of the most [TS]

01:18:22   awful characters in all of comics ryan [TS]

01:18:25   reynolds Your Honor lobo Ryan Reynolds [TS]

01:18:28   will not be playing Wonder Woman voting [TS]

01:18:31   against wonder woman would be like [TS]

01:18:33   swearing at your mom [TS]

01:18:34   Deadpool is not a gentleman and wonder [TS]

01:18:37   woman does not abide rudeness and [TS]

01:18:41   finally once Deadpool is caught in the [TS]

01:18:43   lasso of truth and is forced to admit he [TS]

01:18:45   uses humor to cover up his own knowledge [TS]

01:18:46   that he is a one-dimensional annoying [TS]

01:18:48   character that never should have [TS]

01:18:49   continued past the awful nineties he [TS]

01:18:51   removes himself from the competition in [TS]

01:18:53   shame those are our comments from [TS]

01:18:55   listeners Steve what is your rolling can [TS]

01:18:58   can can advocate set earth reassure me [TS]

01:19:01   that Ryan Reynolds will not be playing [TS]

01:19:03   one [TS]

01:19:04   woman at some point Ryan Reynolds will [TS]

01:19:06   never play wonder woman are you certain [TS]

01:19:08   of that fact I am positive but it would [TS]

01:19:12   look good [TS]

01:19:15   no don't protect how exciting was that [TS]

01:19:19   trailer that leaked just remember that [TS]

01:19:21   just remember that you know what I don't [TS]

01:19:23   find Deadpool that annoying [TS]

01:19:26   I mean it's not like it is mostly at the [TS]

01:19:28   wisecracking thing breaking the fourth [TS]

01:19:32   wall that is that is lame in most [TS]

01:19:34   contexts but I don't think it's done [TS]

01:19:35   much in comics and I think that's I [TS]

01:19:36   think it's kind of cool that he's sort [TS]

01:19:38   of the the soul talk to the audience [TS]

01:19:42   character although the fact that he beat [TS]

01:19:46   cancer and you're proud of that my [TS]

01:19:47   mother is a cancer sir and I'll have you [TS]

01:19:50   know that Deadpool has never beaten her [TS]

01:19:52   far as i know uh helpful remember him [TS]

01:19:59   for cancer [TS]

01:20:00   what to do what to do well you know what [TS]

01:20:03   answer certainly like a lady i keep [TS]

01:20:06   going back to the fact that that it was [TS]

01:20:08   a goddess to you that it was Wonder [TS]

01:20:10   Woman in my youth who introduced me to [TS]

01:20:15   the fact that Apple hostess fruit pies [TS]

01:20:18   are delicious and nutritious and so I [TS]

01:20:20   have to find for Wonder Woman alright [TS]

01:20:23   this case finally press it and decided [TS]

01:20:25   at this court [TS]

01:20:26   Phil what is your ruling Deadpool is [TS]

01:20:31   perhaps my favorite dirty hearing movie [TS]

01:20:33   the one with guns and roses in it [TS]

01:20:39   yes it's quite good I i have a justice [TS]

01:20:44   makes a very good point i wish we had [TS]

01:20:45   conferred on this before i rendered my [TS]

01:20:47   decision i have a series of questions [TS]

01:20:48   for Shannon Shannon yes would you say [TS]

01:20:51   that all the world is waiting for Wonder [TS]

01:20:53   Woman and the power she possesses [TS]

01:20:54   absolutely in her seven tights is she [TS]

01:20:59   fighting for my rights and the old red [TS]

01:21:01   why you lose [TS]

01:21:02   yes did she stop a bullet cold shin [TS]

01:21:07   absolutely can she make the axis fold he [TS]

01:21:10   did she [TS]

01:21:11   did not i watch that whole series can [TS]

01:21:13   she change minds as well as change the [TS]

01:21:16   world and most importantly I I believe [TS]

01:21:19   this will influence my decision [TS]

01:21:22   she'll wonder she is a wonder that [TS]

01:21:25   Wonder Woman I rule in favor of Wonder [TS]

01:21:28   Woman Wonder Woman moves on to the next [TS]

01:21:30   round our listeners also agreed with the [TS]

01:21:33   judges sixty-eight percent of listeners [TS]

01:21:35   chose wonder woman over Deadpool wanna [TS]

01:21:39   looks awful care turn in all of comics [TS]

01:21:42   according to one like that bold [TS]

01:21:44   statement Mo's you got a chance to [TS]

01:21:45   redeem yourself you'll be arguing for [TS]

01:21:46   number one seed in our final regional [TS]

01:21:49   Latveria region [TS]

01:21:50   I don't know I still don't know why [TS]

01:21:52   we're in life area way we bailiff smell [TS]

01:21:55   yes we are now in the Latveria region is [TS]

01:21:58   that correct we are to stand for the lat [TS]

01:21:59   variants can i would like to reiterate [TS]

01:22:00   that no money has changed hands pick up [TS]

01:22:03   a bit after I never said alright no [TS]

01:22:05   money of any kind [TS]

01:22:07   that's right thank you this was going to [TS]

01:22:09   be in boston they dropped out of the [TS]

01:22:11   building i didn't want it didn't want it [TS]

01:22:13   it's just a shame too because Tony Stark [TS]

01:22:15   went to MIT so they could but no no most [TS]

01:22:18   number one iron man you will be arguing [TS]

01:22:21   against Dan who has his work cut out for [TS]

01:22:23   him arguing for the world's favorite [TS]

01:22:25   x-man gambit dan you may go first [TS]

01:22:29   let's emphasize the good things here [TS]

01:22:31   it's a short list how one fuchsia bodies [TS]

01:22:37   here keep rolling right through that [TS]

01:22:43   vacation accent oh I consider doing my [TS]

01:22:49   entire defense in a Cajun accent decided [TS]

01:22:53   that probably would not help my kids all [TS]

01:22:56   guarantee it will buy you some guy likes [TS]

01:23:00   future bodysuit chignon your honor [TS]

01:23:06   there's a difference between a Cajun [TS]

01:23:07   accent and a fresh rat accidentally i am [TS]

01:23:10   available please enlighten us what do [TS]

01:23:12   each of those accents sound like been [TS]

01:23:14   back to you [TS]

01:23:15   I so at that point i think i would argue [TS]

01:23:19   that I know there is a lot of popular [TS]

01:23:21   groundswell against cabinet and I think [TS]

01:23:24   in some ways deserved but I would also [TS]

01:23:28   argue that you know he's facing off your [TS]

01:23:32   against Tony Stark who is kind of like a [TS]

01:23:36   like a super lame-o millionaire Batman [TS]

01:23:39   except he just spends all his time [TS]

01:23:42   drinking and partying that I don't even [TS]

01:23:45   think that qualifies as a superhero [TS]

01:23:47   honestly so at least gambit has a staff [TS]

01:23:50   that like telescopes up and down and can [TS]

01:23:52   make things that explode and well-being [TS]

01:23:54   i mentioned the fuchsia bodysuit defense [TS]

01:23:57   rests [TS]

01:23:57   alright most talked-about iron man [TS]

01:24:01   ok now it would seem that again i am the [TS]

01:24:05   overarching winner but i'm going to play [TS]

01:24:09   this as straight as possible [TS]

01:24:11   first of all this guy was a raging [TS]

01:24:14   alcoholic and when Israel is the same [TS]

01:24:19   thing me [TS]

01:24:20   ok but he's still out there doing a [TS]

01:24:23   great job for America and for the [TS]

01:24:27   Avengers and even for the west coast [TS]

01:24:29   avengers might I add got captain america [TS]

01:24:32   killed huh [TS]

01:24:33   Sorry Sorry swinging through what [TS]

01:24:35   sometimes things happen that was the red [TS]

01:24:38   skull pin see [TS]

01:24:41   your information mr. morn is incorrect [TS]

01:24:44   tony has a delightful girl friend by the [TS]

01:24:48   name of pepper potts oh we just we love [TS]

01:24:51   to watch on film and and just and revel [TS]

01:24:53   in that but literally he's a genius [TS]

01:24:56   philanthropist and alcoholic but still [TS]

01:25:01   fights to live and lives to fight let's [TS]

01:25:05   let's hear with the listeners had to say [TS]

01:25:07   the listener said iron man where's less [TS]

01:25:09   purple that's just the fact that this [TS]

01:25:11   family again [TS]

01:25:12   what is this with the purple I've always [TS]

01:25:14   gonna bring it in [TS]

01:25:15   sure they'll both likely steal your [TS]

01:25:17   girlfriend but at least Tony will pay [TS]

01:25:19   for the party [TS]

01:25:20   no one likes gambit says democracy the [TS]

01:25:24   entry is irony rounding rounding iron [TS]

01:25:28   man shoots lasers and gambit actually [TS]

01:25:30   this is the gambit [TS]

01:25:32   hello rose cards are great players and [TS]

01:25:35   the game through its like the Batman are [TS]

01:25:37   these two different heroes gambit and [TS]

01:25:39   the gamma RT has a living there related [TS]

01:25:41   and finally ironman stories can make [TS]

01:25:44   even corporate takeovers interesting [TS]

01:25:46   gambit makes nothing interesting [TS]

01:25:48   those are listener constantly constantly [TS]

01:25:50   a true bill what say you a question for [TS]

01:25:54   mr. mostly ack sure your honor [TS]

01:25:56   absolutely cast iron man lost his mind [TS]

01:25:59   it define losing camp fire dance or is [TS]

01:26:02   he blind can iron man walk at all where [TS]

01:26:07   he moves will he fall talkin about blind [TS]

01:26:10   drunk is he alive or dead happy thoughts [TS]

01:26:13   within his head will just pass him there [TS]

01:26:16   why should we even care wilkie [TS]

01:26:19   transcended time the people didn't love [TS]

01:26:21   him and he went back in time to save [TS]

01:26:23   them quite true [TS]

01:26:25   thank you on the other hand gambit is [TS]

01:26:28   the coolest of all the x-men my gosh if [TS]

01:26:33   you gather up children and say who is [TS]

01:26:37   your favorite x-man they will say to [TS]

01:26:40   American going to jail [TS]

01:26:43   they will say I cannot rule in favor of [TS]

01:26:51   this this flop iron man when campus who [TS]

01:26:54   stands tall above all superheroes is so [TS]

01:26:58   assailed I rule in favor of gambit that [TS]

01:27:01   surprises no one there there's a history [TS]

01:27:04   of Tony Tony prejudice in this class [TS]

01:27:06   stiva let us know what you think about [TS]

01:27:09   iron man and get but I advocate more'n [TS]

01:27:11   yes starting gambit [TS]

01:27:14   yes he enjoy a good guy and bubble [TS]

01:27:16   absolutely sherry if an onion garlic we [TS]

01:27:23   that notwithstanding back i have to say [TS]

01:27:31   that this advocate does not seem to be [TS]

01:27:34   defending his client to the best of his [TS]

01:27:36   legal ability fact he seems somewhat to [TS]

01:27:40   be in the bag for the other the other [TS]

01:27:44   the other party to this particular [TS]

01:27:46   battle we're going to do with life area [TS]

01:27:48   in fact it's hard for me to see this as [TS]

01:27:51   anything other than a miscarriage of [TS]

01:27:52   justice [TS]

01:27:53   certainly this this this ruling will be [TS]

01:27:56   thrown out almost immediately upon [TS]

01:27:57   rendering of judgment because clearly [TS]

01:28:00   this this this [TS]

01:28:02   oh I hesitate to use the word advocate [TS]

01:28:04   is not his heart is not in this thing [TS]

01:28:07   what lies a compelling counter-argument [TS]

01:28:14   wait a minute hang on hang on one second [TS]

01:28:17   please guys just a second i find for [TS]

01:28:23   ironman well thatthat split the vote of [TS]

01:28:27   as we as we thought it might others no [TS]

01:28:29   way i can live i can i can get at least [TS]

01:28:33   one way maybe one Rihanna ah good news [TS]

01:28:37   dan nineteen percent of the listeners [TS]

01:28:39   like any of it now I was the way that [TS]

01:28:43   was the way the nineteen percent you are [TS]

01:28:46   intelligent and realize the campus is [TS]

01:28:49   the greatest of all x-men yeah and iron [TS]

01:28:53   man moves on to the next round we move [TS]

01:28:55   to the next this [TS]

01:28:56   is our big battle of undergo underdogs [TS]

01:28:58   number 12 seed the thing lots of [TS]

01:29:01   complaints out there about the thing [TS]

01:29:02   being too lowly seated that's just what [TS]

01:29:04   the committee did and he there was [TS]

01:29:06   something scheduled was not strong [TS]

01:29:08   enough i don't know Monty will be [TS]

01:29:09   arguing for the thing number 12 seed and [TS]

01:29:11   yet he is not the underdog because big [TS]

01:29:13   part of the 13 seed will be argued by [TS]

01:29:16   Lisa these are two jack kirby creations [TS]

01:29:18   pointed out by several people as well [TS]

01:29:20   Lisa you may go first tell us about big [TS]

01:29:22   barda boom to that is where it begins [TS]

01:29:27   that is where it ends this is big Barda [TS]

01:29:30   and she has a boom tube she can work [TS]

01:29:33   space and time she basically operates as [TS]

01:29:35   a one-woman public transit [TS]

01:29:37   infrastructure thanks to the boom tube [TS]

01:29:39   not a euphemism an actual piece of [TS]

01:29:41   advanced technology seriously good [TS]

01:29:44   artist origin story and partners origin [TS]

01:29:47   story is amazing she was supposed to be [TS]

01:29:49   somewhat dodges nightmare warrior Lady [TS]

01:29:51   that retag across interstellar whatever [TS]

01:29:54   is in the name of evil and instead she [TS]

01:29:56   decided she's going to shake off years [TS]

01:29:57   and conditioning follow her conscience [TS]

01:29:59   follow her tiny boyfriend to earth and [TS]

01:30:02   become his adoring New England housewife [TS]

01:30:04   and yet every time some something [TS]

01:30:07   threatens earth in some some way shape [TS]

01:30:09   or form she shakes off the apron she [TS]

01:30:11   puts back on the apocalypse battle armor [TS]

01:30:13   and she goes out and she kicks but she's [TS]

01:30:16   also the designated heavy hitter on the [TS]

01:30:17   birds of prey so you know she's a you [TS]

01:30:20   know you know she's a team player and [TS]

01:30:21   also i think you get extra extra extra [TS]

01:30:23   extra extra points for associated the [TS]

01:30:26   birds of prey because anyone who says [TS]

01:30:27   that the Barbara Gordon a positive way [TS]

01:30:29   is kind of Awesome by association as [TS]

01:30:31   well [TS]

01:30:31   lastly i have two more words free boom [TS]

01:30:34   tube does the thing have a boom tube [TS]

01:30:38   no he does not he just has rocky skin [TS]

01:30:40   and a massive complex and a blind [TS]

01:30:42   girlfriend yet that's more than two [TS]

01:30:44   words there at the end but I get your [TS]

01:30:45   get your point at one point you were [TS]

01:30:47   going to say that she's also the [TS]

01:30:48   designated driver but that's not what [TS]

01:30:50   you said Monte talk about the thing I [TS]

01:30:53   believe you said in a previous episode [TS]

01:30:54   that he is one of your favorite [TS]

01:30:56   characters of all time [TS]

01:30:58   the thing is the best character in the [TS]

01:31:00   Marvel Universe he's got the ANC's that [TS]

01:31:04   defines Marvel but he's got the [TS]

01:31:06   clobbering that defines superheroes he's [TS]

01:31:08   equally at home [TS]

01:31:09   inching street-level goons in the face [TS]

01:31:11   and dealing with cosmic weirdos it as an [TS]

01:31:15   example of that we're going to ignore [TS]

01:31:16   the Fantastic Four for a moment because [TS]

01:31:19   certain members of it have gotten way [TS]

01:31:20   too much publicity during this round is [TS]

01:31:23   your arm [TS]

01:31:24   yes that dude right the series Marvel [TS]

01:31:29   two-in-one went for a hundred issues and [TS]

01:31:32   it paired Ben Grimm up with someone [TS]

01:31:34   different every month and every time [TS]

01:31:36   it's great [TS]

01:31:38   this is a character who can pair off [TS]

01:31:40   with characters as diverse as spider-man [TS]

01:31:42   the living mummy the impossible man and [TS]

01:31:46   in the second to last issue not to curry [TS]

01:31:48   favor with certain bailiffs rom the [TS]

01:31:51   space night [TS]

01:31:53   listen I respect big barda big barda is [TS]

01:31:56   one of my favorite characters i was [TS]

01:31:58   proud to bring her into the second round [TS]

01:32:00   when I argued for her in the first round [TS]

01:32:02   but she's not as great as the guy who [TS]

01:32:05   tells us exactly when clobbering time [TS]

01:32:07   starts are you didn't mention that in [TS]

01:32:10   issue 15 Marvel two-in-one the thing [TS]

01:32:11   teamed up with himself [TS]

01:32:13   that's an alternate thing that he just [TS]

01:32:16   with yes with the old rocks instead of [TS]

01:32:17   the New York's I just would you [TS]

01:32:18   mentioned Marvel two-in-one I thought I [TS]

01:32:20   thought with ribbon in there also seems [TS]

01:32:21   up with Ben Grimm at one point where yes [TS]

01:32:23   the rock version and the human version [TS]

01:32:25   crazy stuff the listeners wrote in and [TS]

01:32:28   said my dad made me move piles of rocks [TS]

01:32:31   each summer when I was a boy I don't [TS]

01:32:35   also before the Horta there came the [TS]

01:32:38   thing the original character that proves [TS]

01:32:39   a pile of rocks can feel another one [TS]

01:32:42   Road in and and said I agree with the [TS]

01:32:44   internets dr. dragging the thing was [TS]

01:32:45   understated and should clean up in the [TS]

01:32:47   second round I'm Ben Grimm friend to [TS]

01:32:49   everyone in the Marvel Universe but the [TS]

01:32:51   loneliest man on earth also another [TS]

01:32:53   another listing wrote in and said the [TS]

01:32:55   thing is kind of dumb but I've never [TS]

01:32:57   heard of big Barda and finally I would [TS]

01:33:00   like to point out in a mistake i [TS]

01:33:01   referred to Yancy Street things home is [TS]

01:33:03   being in Brooklyn it's not in Brooklyn [TS]

01:33:05   is back in a time when there could be [TS]

01:33:06   bad neighborhoods in Manhattan there are [TS]

01:33:09   not now but it was in the it was in it [TS]

01:33:11   was improper Manhattan in New York City [TS]

01:33:13   not in the borough of Brooklyn so which [TS]

01:33:16   is also new york city but is not man had [TS]

01:33:17   no I screwed up again their unity street [TS]

01:33:19   in manhattan but I bet it is [TS]

01:33:22   they move probably moved at all [TS]

01:33:23   brooklyn at some point in the seventies [TS]

01:33:25   that's my theory by a boom tube [TS]

01:33:28   let's go to our judges for the Steve [TS]

01:33:30   what say you ever gets my user can you [TS]

01:33:35   explain this boom tube you said it a lot [TS]

01:33:37   but you haven't really explained what [TS]

01:33:38   the hell it is is is this similar to [TS]

01:33:40   gambit staff the telescope's up and [TS]

01:33:42   don't know it's it's it's about the size [TS]

01:33:45   of a cardboard poster tube considerably [TS]

01:33:47   more high-tech an interesting-looking [TS]

01:33:49   she points it's something she creates a [TS]

01:33:51   wormhole space and time you can shove [TS]

01:33:53   stuff through it is boom and that's it [TS]

01:33:55   more high-tech than a cardboard tube you [TS]

01:33:58   say in and to to what end to what end is [TS]

01:34:03   this boom tube use it used to just [TS]

01:34:05   dispose of garbage in easy fashion or [TS]

01:34:07   what's the purpose of this wormhole and [TS]

01:34:10   putting up a bit you can move people [TS]

01:34:12   quickly including myself you can throw [TS]

01:34:15   it into awful dimensions things like [TS]

01:34:17   that so teleportation basically is the [TS]

01:34:20   point its teleport she's basically a [TS]

01:34:22   woman one woman public transit service [TS]

01:34:23   if the transit question is teleportation [TS]

01:34:26   that's accessed by a tube to quote thst [TS]

01:34:29   she's got the power to move you and in [TS]

01:34:33   gambit staff the telescope's up and down [TS]

01:34:35   that does not have the same power [TS]

01:34:38   is I am no I am no gambling expert but [TS]

01:34:41   to the best of my knowledge i think the [TS]

01:34:43   staff is just there because they needed [TS]

01:34:44   something to do with his hands and [TS]

01:34:45   several of the shots [TS]

01:34:47   interesting interesting he needs the [TS]

01:34:50   staffer pallets gambit so cool he all [TS]

01:34:52   over he didn't have something to hold [TS]

01:34:53   onto [TS]

01:34:54   that's why cool people are always [TS]

01:34:56   leaning against things ya talkin about [TS]

01:34:58   get bit by big and advocate Ashley yes [TS]

01:35:04   sir when is clobberin time exactly it's [TS]

01:35:08   never been made clear to me exactly when [TS]

01:35:10   that is that that's why you need the [TS]

01:35:12   thing around [TS]

01:35:13   he's the only true he's got the only [TS]

01:35:16   true lock on when clobbering time starts [TS]

01:35:19   if he's not there it could be clobbering [TS]

01:35:21   time you don't even know it's about [TS]

01:35:24   every four pages [TS]

01:35:25   it's ok interesting I that'sthat's good [TS]

01:35:27   metric well while I do like boom tube i [TS]

01:35:33   also like clobberin time [TS]

01:35:35   so wow this is a tough one but I've [TS]

01:35:40   heard of the thing the thing it is Bill [TS]

01:35:44   boom to clobbering time [TS]

01:35:48   clobbering time boom tube question for [TS]

01:35:53   mr. actually but that who is the coolest [TS]

01:35:57   of the x-men [TS]

01:36:00   gambit question rash miser who is the [TS]

01:36:09   coolest off the x-men [TS]

01:36:12   relevance your honor thanks Ellen is [TS]

01:36:16   exactly morones gonna pay to go and get [TS]

01:36:22   excuse me a point where can we please [TS]

01:36:23   can we please bring advocate more and [TS]

01:36:25   back to the duty stand highly [TS]

01:36:28   unprecedented but well allow it [TS]

01:36:30   yeah advocate morning and I'd like to [TS]

01:36:32   learn more about gambits no gambit staff [TS]

01:36:37   is uh is a it's basically a couple of [TS]

01:36:40   interns we it's we lost the end of this [TS]

01:36:42   is we have to set family podcast I'm [TS]

01:36:44   sorry [TS]

01:36:45   central is directed advocate more [TS]

01:36:46   advocate more and please please [TS]

01:36:48   I I need to know more about the subject [TS]

01:36:50   i'm going to call Steve looked at one in [TS]

01:36:51   the morning and asked him about get [TS]

01:36:52   staff and he will be unhappy [TS]

01:36:54   the staff is an important part of [TS]

01:36:56   gambits repertoire or is it [TS]

01:36:58   oh you pronounce that correctly Steve [TS]

01:37:01   that was excellent by the way [TS]

01:37:02   interesting live before the cajun field [TS]

01:37:03   because you know gambit yes i would say [TS]

01:37:06   it's perhaps not as critical as his [TS]

01:37:08   future bodysuit or ability to throw [TS]

01:37:10   exploding playing cards but i would say [TS]

01:37:12   it's a central part of his identity as [TS]

01:37:14   the coolest of the service brand his [TS]

01:37:15   personal branding good to know it's not [TS]

01:37:17   well-versed that decision [TS]

01:37:19   this will weigh upon future decisions I [TS]

01:37:21   cannot go back and change the previous [TS]

01:37:23   decision obviously but its staff may [TS]

01:37:25   come play and knowledge is not even [TS]

01:37:27   related things absolutely right [TS]

01:37:30   I the thing also got the endorsement of [TS]

01:37:32   sixty-nine percent of the listeners we [TS]

01:37:35   move on to unmatched between number 62 [TS]

01:37:38   Rorschach will be argued by moes and [TS]

01:37:41   number 14 seed invincible who will be [TS]

01:37:43   argued by the person who introduced [TS]

01:37:45   invincible one of my favorite comics now [TS]

01:37:46   to me Lisa Schmeisser least you're the [TS]

01:37:48   underdog please go first and talk about [TS]

01:37:51   invincible [TS]

01:37:52   ok I seem to keep getting people who [TS]

01:37:53   have to break their conditioning or [TS]

01:37:55   destiny and the great thing about these [TS]

01:37:57   people they actually keep doing it [TS]

01:37:59   the thing that makes invincible great is [TS]

01:38:02   that he would effectively raised as a [TS]

01:38:05   sleeper agent in vail evading alien army [TS]

01:38:08   from a brutally repressive militaristic [TS]

01:38:10   race of Tom Selleck like aliens [TS]

01:38:12   and instead he became a protector and [TS]

01:38:15   defender of Earth and the thing that [TS]

01:38:17   makes invincible great if he's willing [TS]

01:38:19   to take his legs and keep getting come [TS]

01:38:21   in and keep coming back [TS]

01:38:22   I i have lost count of the number of [TS]

01:38:25   panels where this poor guy has just his [TS]

01:38:28   face beaten to a pulp and it slowly [TS]

01:38:31   heels over the course of the story arc [TS]

01:38:33   anyway [TS]

01:38:35   mark who is from the invisible is not [TS]

01:38:38   being invincible is really big into [TS]

01:38:39   giving people second chances and [TS]

01:38:41   although he gets more pragmatic as he [TS]

01:38:43   gets older he's on his guard against [TS]

01:38:45   becoming cynical and he's always [TS]

01:38:46   striving to try and remain compassionate [TS]

01:38:48   he actively fights against the type of [TS]

01:38:50   pragmatism that reduces living beings to [TS]

01:38:52   mirror your objects on the chessboard he [TS]

01:38:54   tries to hold life as sacred that's one [TS]

01:38:57   of the things that drives him and even [TS]

01:39:00   even when he has to do things that will [TS]

01:39:02   threaten her in somebody's life so I do [TS]

01:39:05   give props to shock for eventually [TS]

01:39:07   taking his demons to the point where [TS]

01:39:09   they work for him and it's one of the [TS]

01:39:13   most effective characters and comics but [TS]

01:39:15   invincible has actually had to go a step [TS]

01:39:17   further and fight alternate reality [TS]

01:39:20   versions of himself and in my opinion [TS]

01:39:22   that kicks up a level of intensity [TS]

01:39:24   imagine coming face-to-face with the [TS]

01:39:26   living embodiment of every bad decision [TS]

01:39:28   you've ever made over the course of your [TS]

01:39:29   life [TS]

01:39:29   imagine coming face-to-face with every [TS]

01:39:31   unpleasant facet of your personality [TS]

01:39:33   blown up up into somebody who's wearing [TS]

01:39:36   your face and then imagine that all of [TS]

01:39:38   your bad decisions and all of the [TS]

01:39:39   unpleasant part of your personality are [TS]

01:39:41   trying to kill you Invincibles lived [TS]

01:39:43   this and he still managed to come out of [TS]

01:39:45   it as a hero and somebody who values [TS]

01:39:47   life and strives to see the best in [TS]

01:39:49   other people he carries a lot of his [TS]

01:39:50   damage but he carries it on the inside [TS]

01:39:53   finally that thing makes invincible [TS]

01:39:55   really great [TS]

01:39:56   he's basically spider-man crossed with [TS]

01:39:57   Superman you know he's a guy who had [TS]

01:39:59   responsibility thrust on him he's got [TS]

01:40:01   this crazy mad powers he's half alien [TS]

01:40:03   but he still strives to hold onto the [TS]

01:40:05   things that make him human and relatable [TS]

01:40:07   to people he loves [TS]

01:40:09   alright and Moe's tell us about [TS]

01:40:11   Rorschach I'll tell you what that was [TS]

01:40:14   amazing i would love to read that comic [TS]

01:40:17   but with the name like invincible [TS]

01:40:20   it sounds dumb so really a Rorschach [TS]

01:40:23   easily one of the most [TS]

01:40:26   influential as uh my other defense [TS]

01:40:31   defense attorney was saying is probably [TS]

01:40:34   up you know in fact a legend he is [TS]

01:40:38   probably the smartest detective that [TS]

01:40:41   would have ever been on the planet if he [TS]

01:40:44   had not died you know Bruce Wayne [TS]

01:40:47   couldn't hold his job boilers look if [TS]

01:40:49   you haven't if you haven't read watchmen [TS]

01:40:51   shame on you and i'll guarantee ways [TS]

01:40:53   from 1986 exactly so [TS]

01:40:58   objection and you're overruled that [TS]

01:41:00   movies on that old here we go our other [TS]

01:41:07   honors your honors is a is Monty coming [TS]

01:41:10   up soon [TS]

01:41:11   there we go that's all I needed to hear [TS]

01:41:12   ok so first of all watchman is watershed [TS]

01:41:16   moment in comics he could probably patty [TS]

01:41:18   not died proof that you know the moon [TS]

01:41:21   landing was false and faked um he also [TS]

01:41:25   made beautiful than with the Milligan's [TS]

01:41:27   moon night but now okay but then again [TS]

01:41:29   he won so look how bad could I be doing [TS]

01:41:32   he has the coolest mask in comics flat [TS]

01:41:36   out and he made eating cold beans cool [TS]

01:41:39   again then it had been not according to [TS]

01:41:42   really but then it came back 9023 [TS]

01:41:46   everybody'd Colby old friends come back [TS]

01:41:50   on the answer is in a comic book in the [TS]

01:41:53   eighties only 2 comments came in in our [TS]

01:41:57   from our listeners pointing out that i [TS]

01:41:58   missed typed the word Rorschach in the [TS]

01:42:00   bracket cool say thank you to those two [TS]

01:42:03   people for writing in and being patents [TS]

01:42:05   and then 2 comments from from listeners [TS]

01:42:08   I Astro shock to save me once he said no [TS]

01:42:11   and he's not trapped in a bracket with [TS]

01:42:15   all these heroes they're trapped in a [TS]

01:42:16   bracket within those of the comments [TS]

01:42:19   from the listeners Phil what is your [TS]

01:42:21   ruling on Rorschach and invincible [TS]

01:42:23   mmm on the one hand Ted Cruz is come out [TS]

01:42:28   as a strong advocate for a shack on the [TS]

01:42:32   other hand Schmeisser played for a shack [TS]

01:42:36   in the watchman movie [TS]

01:42:38   Jackie Earle Haley [TS]

01:42:39   he did hmm didn't mr. Jackie Earle Haley [TS]

01:42:44   favorite not 12 of your tweets and [TS]

01:42:47   recent memory that has no bearing on [TS]

01:42:51   this yeah I think that you should answer [TS]

01:42:53   the question [TS]

01:42:54   you are under oath [TS]

01:42:58   I don't think that's true love to have [TS]

01:43:01   that question i think i just wanted to [TS]

01:43:03   say that because it sounds good buddy [TS]

01:43:04   i'm curious as to where this line of [TS]

01:43:09   questioning is going what is the [TS]

01:43:10   relevance of someone favoriting my [TS]

01:43:12   tweets when i am in fact advocating for [TS]

01:43:15   a different hero point is this mission [TS]

01:43:17   wiser Kelly leak has defended you to the [TS]

01:43:21   death and yet you turn your back and [TS]

01:43:23   Kelly leak at the moment when he needs [TS]

01:43:28   you the most [TS]

01:43:29   that is an important point defender [TS]

01:43:31   doing my job sir [TS]

01:43:33   well that may well be do we just step [TS]

01:43:36   into a really creepy role-playing [TS]

01:43:37   sessions my job Godspeed said it was [TS]

01:43:43   also feel missed the most important line [TS]

01:43:45   he should have said there which was I'm [TS]

01:43:47   asking the questions here but anyway [TS]

01:43:50   back to the psychodrama I'm gonna hand I [TS]

01:43:54   really I i enjoy both the watchman and [TS]

01:43:57   the invincible there there i think [TS]

01:43:59   they're two very good funny books on I'm [TS]

01:44:04   gonna rule however in favor work shack [TS]

01:44:07   alright Steve well I came into this [TS]

01:44:10   thing thinking Rorschach all the way I [TS]

01:44:12   know Rorschach i love Rorschach i agree [TS]

01:44:15   with Rorschach on pretty much everything [TS]

01:44:16   including really explains a lot of the [TS]

01:44:20   problems of this court an advocate [TS]

01:44:22   Schmeisser came in with her advocacy of [TS]

01:44:24   invincible and I'm fascinated by this [TS]

01:44:27   concept that the concept of Tom Selleck [TS]

01:44:30   like aliens would be to begin with [TS]

01:44:32   wow I i'm not sure what to say about [TS]

01:44:36   that or how that could possibly work but [TS]

01:44:37   it does make me want to look it up and [TS]

01:44:39   and find out [TS]

01:44:40   although the fact that he's an invading [TS]

01:44:42   alien that became defender of earth does [TS]

01:44:44   sound suspiciously like several other [TS]

01:44:46   heroes that have been defended tonight [TS]

01:44:48   so [TS]

01:44:49   points off for originality I like that [TS]

01:44:52   that its kind of I've seen I've seen [TS]

01:44:54   images from this comic i like the fact [TS]

01:44:56   that he's beaten to a pulp and it's [TS]

01:44:57   fairly gory and they slowly heels over [TS]

01:44:59   time I think that's very interesting [TS]

01:45:00   very interesting most interesting I [TS]

01:45:04   think is the fact that advocate mosel [TS]

01:45:08   act points out that Rorschach is dead is [TS]

01:45:12   invincible dead the name suggests that [TS]

01:45:14   he's not i don't think Invincibles dead [TS]

01:45:16   but Rorschach clearly is dead [TS]

01:45:19   I don't want to ruin it for anybody but [TS]

01:45:21   he said it several times specific i find [TS]

01:45:23   for invincible [TS]

01:45:25   apurate doors I doors murmur murmur [TS]

01:45:31   court rumor that throws it into the [TS]

01:45:34   hands of our listeners who had to choose [TS]

01:45:37   between a character who appears in an [TS]

01:45:40   independent comic and a character who [TS]

01:45:43   appears in the most celebrated comic [TS]

01:45:44   book ever made 75-percent of whom [TS]

01:45:48   spoilers voted for Rorschach so [TS]

01:45:51   Rorschach moves on but it was a nice [TS]

01:45:53   well-argued police a well-argued for our [TS]

01:45:55   friend Mark thank you [TS]

01:45:58   moving on to our last pairing of the [TS]

01:46:00   evening do they have mustaches he is [TS]

01:46:03   he's not the new people i'm about to [TS]

01:46:05   discuss or all over themselves look like [TS]

01:46:07   aliens [TS]

01:46:08   yes oh yes they do his dad's got the big [TS]

01:46:10   selling mutton is exquisite my [TS]

01:46:12   submission yeah they that is how you can [TS]

01:46:14   tell that you can say someone is Tom [TS]

01:46:17   Selleck like and not have a mustache [TS]

01:46:19   yeah that's just a guy in a Hawaiian [TS]

01:46:21   shirt you know I is already said I just [TS]

01:46:23   wanted to be sure like when he shaves [TS]

01:46:25   Tom Selleck is not Tom Selleck like [TS]

01:46:27   unless you're referring to Tom so like [TS]

01:46:29   when he played eisenhower in that TV [TS]

01:46:31   movie they did that was wrong though but [TS]

01:46:34   identical Eisenhower had no mustache so [TS]

01:46:36   that was also true i'm moving on to our [TS]

01:46:39   last pairing of eating number ten [TS]

01:46:40   Nightcrawler will be argued by chip this [TS]

01:46:43   is a battle of true friends in the x-men [TS]

01:46:46   because nightcrawlers going up against [TS]

01:46:47   his good friend Wolverine number two [TS]

01:46:49   seed will be argued by Monty chip you [TS]

01:46:51   get to go first tell us about kurt von [TS]

01:46:54   der Nightcrawler ok everybody I can we [TS]

01:46:57   all agree that we're all really sick and [TS]

01:47:00   tired of wolverine and [TS]

01:47:02   yes I don't think i agree with that yeah [TS]

01:47:05   alright i find for a while I I apologize [TS]

01:47:09   mr. sindelar uh there's only one reason [TS]

01:47:14   why the universe has not become [TS]

01:47:16   completely sick of wolverine that's Hugh [TS]

01:47:18   Jackman well and paul cornell wrote a [TS]

01:47:20   good run of the comic recently but the [TS]

01:47:23   whole point of the mutant analogy is [TS]

01:47:25   that you've got heroes who are hated and [TS]

01:47:26   feared for being different when it comes [TS]

01:47:28   to appearances Wolverine has a sucky [TS]

01:47:31   haircut [TS]

01:47:32   nightcrawler he looks like a demon he [TS]

01:47:35   looks like a devil he has a pointy tail [TS]

01:47:37   the world hates and fears him and yet [TS]

01:47:40   he's still a hero he has more reason to [TS]

01:47:43   be as bloodthirsty as Wolverine but he's [TS]

01:47:45   less bloodthirsty he's great he's a [TS]

01:47:48   great fighter he can climb walls but his [TS]

01:47:51   signature superpower is teleportation [TS]

01:47:53   which he does in a puff of brimstone and [TS]

01:47:56   the sound effect [TS]

01:47:57   BAM be a m-f I think we all know what [TS]

01:48:02   that stands for and it's not biomass [TS]

01:48:04   alternative methane fuels I rest my case [TS]

01:48:07   very good Monty look we all know how [TS]

01:48:10   cool Wolverine is some say he's one of [TS]

01:48:13   the top two coolest x-men he's got the [TS]

01:48:21   healing factor in the claws my crazy [TS]

01:48:23   facial hair but he's also got the [TS]

01:48:25   superpower to appear in 17 different [TS]

01:48:27   tales a week for 30 years he can be in [TS]

01:48:31   the x-men and The Avengers and Jem and [TS]

01:48:33   the Holograms all at the same time [TS]

01:48:35   sure you're a little sick of him now [TS]

01:48:37   because he's been in every comic book [TS]

01:48:40   for so long but he's such a great [TS]

01:48:44   character that he got a solo movie that [TS]

01:48:47   everyone hated and then he got another [TS]

01:48:50   solo movie sure everyone hated that one [TS]

01:48:53   but he's going to get another solo movie [TS]

01:48:55   just like the character itself the [TS]

01:48:59   concept of Wolverine is so strong it [TS]

01:49:01   can't be killed [TS]

01:49:02   nightcrawler could barely survived Alan [TS]

01:49:05   Cummings German accent Wolverine want [TS]

01:49:09   you money as a point of World point out [TS]

01:49:13   that they that they did kill over [TS]

01:49:15   mean and he's dead now he's not dead the [TS]

01:49:18   whole planet of them you see how well [TS]

01:49:20   that mean it's comics he's being [TS]

01:49:21   attacked but they didn't think we did [TS]

01:49:22   they did not want makeup base assumed he [TS]

01:49:25   was dead and having an adamantium he was [TS]

01:49:27   totally alive in there [TS]

01:49:29   Wolverine is dead well it's complicated [TS]

01:49:33   wolverine wolverine doesn't die he just [TS]

01:49:35   waits he just may read every issue of [TS]

01:49:37   the death of wolverine nope [TS]

01:49:40   ok ok that's I think we'll resurrected [TS]

01:49:42   at that's a reasonable argument i have [TS]

01:49:44   two final comments from listeners in [TS]

01:49:46   this final master plan there but they [TS]

01:49:48   are probably my two favorite of all the [TS]

01:49:51   ones i've read tonight [TS]

01:49:52   first a listener rights Alan Cumming [TS]

01:49:55   beats Hugh Jackman as a porno name [TS]

01:49:59   wow he's really Jason got some points [TS]

01:50:03   and second this is a painful decision [TS]

01:50:06   painful i know how Steve let's feels [TS]

01:50:09   when he has 10 jokes ready for something [TS]

01:50:11   jason says and he can't choose all of [TS]

01:50:13   them he must leave some behind i have [TS]

01:50:16   never left one of my 10 jokes going to [TS]

01:50:19   write headed out five of them believe [TS]

01:50:22   the other five min see what is your [TS]

01:50:23   thought about Nightcrawler and Wolverine [TS]

01:50:25   well advocate chip you seem to lean [TS]

01:50:29   heavily in your advocacy of Nightcrawler [TS]

01:50:31   on on his bamp catchphrase if bamf does [TS]

01:50:36   not stand for that that thing you said [TS]

01:50:38   what does bamp stand for back [TS]

01:50:41   really Your Honor my opponent cannot [TS]

01:50:44   even the other to say actual word just [TS]

01:50:47   incoherent beeps that no one ever [TS]

01:50:49   interesting and Monta yeah question for [TS]

01:51:01   you if that is the case and I don't [TS]

01:51:05   dispute that is what does Nick stand [TS]

01:51:08   snake is too cool to stand for anything [TS]

01:51:14   man [TS]

01:51:14   it just is heavy heavy i find for the [TS]

01:51:18   guy who didn't beep Wolverine it is well [TS]

01:51:20   into that trap fell man shit she met [TS]

01:51:26   BAM LD co-host Oprah I have a question [TS]

01:51:34   for Tony go ahead President tell me [TS]

01:51:44   yes which of these um x-men would you [TS]

01:51:50   say is the closest to matching camp it [TS]

01:51:52   for coolest who is he actually dr. do I [TS]

01:51:58   believe you're an expert witness here [TS]

01:52:01   yes an ex parte witness [TS]

01:52:03   oh my fight against Tony Tony rq-4 again [TS]

01:52:08   answer the question wait for an answer [TS]

01:52:11   who did I argue for I wasn't our guy is [TS]

01:52:14   your night roller yesternight dollar [TS]

01:52:17   woman how Wolverine or next color [TS]

01:52:19   compared to can bet and I'm waiting for [TS]

01:52:22   my answer it will totally influenced my [TS]

01:52:24   decision [TS]

01:52:25   I don't know what's going on well Tony [TS]

01:52:28   was closer to the coolness of gambit but [TS]

01:52:30   not phrased in a very careful way now [TS]

01:52:32   you probably want to kiss you with I [TS]

01:52:34   take issue with the premise of that [TS]

01:52:36   question [TS]

01:52:36   well I find you in contempt motion [TS]

01:52:40   couldn't imagine the x-men lined up in [TS]

01:52:44   order of coolness gap is obviously at [TS]

01:52:46   the head of the line is this line in [TS]

01:52:49   some kind of circle perhaps where it [TS]

01:52:50   gets confusing about where the middle is [TS]

01:52:52   standing next to camp it and when we [TS]

01:52:54   were another limit is at one end of the [TS]

01:52:56   line just will be a strip you know all [TS]

01:52:58   thrown open to anyone who is as cool as [TS]

01:53:02   gambit between these two nobody setting [TS]

01:53:04   nobody is that your dad is incorrect [TS]

01:53:07   answer I ruin favor of the night crawler [TS]

01:53:10   I thought I had a chance to win this one [TS]

01:53:14   without telling the guy [TS]

01:53:16   ok so Phil votes for Nightcrawler Steve [TS]

01:53:21   votes for Wolverine the people have [TS]

01:53:22   spoken [TS]

01:53:23   sixty-five percent of them to snikt over [TS]

01:53:26   band so Wolverine moves on to the next [TS]

01:53:29   round [TS]

01:53:30   this ends round two of the summer [TS]

01:53:32   superhero spectacular i would like to [TS]

01:53:34   thank god i would like to thank our [TS]

01:53:36   judges for fulfilling their duties as [TS]

01:53:38   judges we will not need them in the neck [TS]

01:53:39   around thank you for your two rounds of [TS]

01:53:41   Judge duty you're fired basically what [TS]

01:53:43   I'm saying but with honor with honor [TS]

01:53:46   dice and everybody out there who still [TS]

01:53:48   listening [TS]

01:53:49   don't you have something better to do [TS]

01:53:50   with your time I would like to thank my [TS]

01:53:52   participants in the summer superhero [TS]

01:53:54   spectacular dan more in Monte Ashley [TS]

01:53:56   Tony similar ways miser chips other [TS]

01:53:58   films lack Shannon others and of course [TS]

01:54:01   our judges felt Michaels and Steve but [TS]

01:54:03   i'm your host Jason L thank you for [TS]

01:54:06   listening and we'll be back with more [TS]

01:54:08   superhero insanity at a later date this [TS]

01:54:10   summer [TS]