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0:00:08>> From Relay FM, this is Connected, episode 438.
0:00:12Today's show is brought to you by Nom Nom, Fitbot, and Hover.
0:00:15I'm Federico Vittucci, and
0:00:16it's my pleasure to be joined, as always, by Mr. Stephen Hackett.
0:00:20Hello, Stephen.
0:00:21>> Hello, Federico, how are you?
0:00:22>> I am doing great.
0:00:24Although my voice is still not fully recovered,
0:00:27The flu came for me too eventually.
0:00:30Everybody else around me has had it for the past two weeks
0:00:33and I thought I was able to dodge it, but I wasn't.
0:00:36So, but yeah, it's at least I'm able to talk,
0:00:39which is good because we have a big show ahead of us today.
0:00:43- It's a Federico show today too.
0:00:45It's very Federico focused.
0:00:46- You haven't been introduced, you did it again.
0:00:48- So, too slow.
0:00:49- You did it again. - You know what I mean?
0:00:50- Steven, please, Steven, please.
0:00:51- How am I supposed to sit here?
0:00:52Talking about your flu.
0:00:53I'm just sitting here, you know?
0:00:55- I was gonna move right into follow up
0:00:56introduce you later to be honest. Well okay you do because I thought I was
0:01:00gonna be leading follow-up today. Yeah you should I don't want to talk about
0:01:04anything in follow-up. You see? We are also joined by everyone's favorite British
0:01:13gentleman Mr. Myke Hurley. Well hello there my name is Myke Hurley and I am
0:01:17here to take you on a tour through follow-up. I have one serious piece of
0:01:21follow-up and then it gets weird for a little bit. The serious piece of
0:01:25follow up is Lex wrote in to recommend an app called Lyd. Lyd? Lyd? Lyd. Lyd. Lyd. It's
0:01:32an app for the Apple Watch to control Sonos speakers. Open the Lyd. I guess this is the
0:01:37thing we were talking about. The link you put in the show notes is not English. What
0:01:41is it? What do these words mean? Netherlands. Maybe it means something. I mean it came from
0:01:47Lex. Lex sent me the link and I just put the link in. What does Lyd mean? It's the name
0:01:54of that app. And also what is "Shermafbildingen"? I guess it means screenshots? I think it's
0:02:00the name of my new couch from IKEA. You ask people from the Netherlands to help you, you
0:02:06know, I can't help you. "Bestoor oef Sonnus luidspeakers van a fauve Applewatch". So you
0:02:11can't work that out? That was like the control Sonnus speakers from your Applewatch. I could
0:02:15work that out. Yeah. Yeah. See? So it's in the show notes, maybe it'll open in the Netherlands
0:02:22app store for you maybe it won't. But the second screenshot it says "Krug tog". Are you just making fun of
0:02:29Dutch now? I'm sorry but just the word is really fun "Togang". Togang. They're people that wear
0:02:38Birkenstocks all year round. The Togang. Big, big nib nib gang. This was supposed to be the serious part
0:02:45of Togang. Okay so what is this Apple Watch app do you? Control Sonos speakers from the Apple Watch.
0:02:52Okay. I don't know how many more times I have to say this. Did you say they had a price hike?
0:02:57How does that make you feel? I don't feel anything about it because I already bought it.
0:03:01Mmm, I was thinking about a sub but now I'm thinking about it $50 less.
0:03:06Have you tried Lid? No, no, I haven't tried it. Wow, that is journalistic
0:03:15There's no ethics in
0:03:18malpractice. What's the opposite of integrity?
0:03:20I'm no journalist. Disintegrity? What's the opposite? I don't think it's misintegrity.
0:03:27Hi, I'm misintegrity.
0:03:30What else is in follow-up, Myke? Myke writes in, not me, "At the risk of causing
0:03:38Myke, me, to buy another URL, I present the idea Thialafeedback.com." Oh no. Thialafeedback? You
0:03:48You know, I've got ThylaFeedback.com, goes to, you know, submitting feedback for the show.
0:03:53And I have LongThi.social.
0:03:55Because we're so thigh focused. Thi, T-H-I-G-H-L-A-Thyla-Feedback.com.
0:04:03ThylaFeedback.
0:04:05Thi, I have not bought this once.
0:04:06When I saw the link, I thought it was Thi-L-A-Feedback, like it was some reference to Los Angeles for some reason.
0:04:14That's that long L.A. thigh.
0:04:17It's LA thigh.
0:04:18Thigh, thigh, oh my god, this is horrible.
0:04:24So you may remember in last week's episode, we crowned the first royal thinus.
0:04:30What are we doing?
0:04:31Why does this podcast come to this?
0:04:34Dylan wrote in to say that they had long thighs, 48 centimeters, that made their thighs very
0:04:41long.
0:04:42And so Dylan has become the thigh to beat.
0:04:48I have some contenders for the crown of royal thinus.
0:04:53Now before we get into these contenders, I had an anonymous person write in with this
0:04:58suggestion.
0:04:59I don't know why I did that.
0:05:02Dear feedback giver, we have the anonymous thing there if you want to tell us something
0:05:06about a company or something you're working on.
0:05:09If you want to be named the Royal Thynus, you can't be anonymous.
0:05:13No, but this is more of a contention. So I have a question. Okay, here's what Anonymous
0:05:19wrote in to say. "Dylan's thigh is 23.75% of his total height, which is 6 feet 8 inches.
0:05:27At 19 inches, it is absolutely a long thigh. My thighs are 18.5 inches long, and I'm only
0:05:34foot two. So 25% of my height. So my thigh, and I'm sure others might be longer relative
0:05:42to their heights. Should Dylan be dethroned with these facts?
0:05:47- Yeah.
0:05:48- I say it's not percentage. It's just who has the longest thigh.
0:05:53- It's the thigh to height ratio.
0:05:55- No, I think it's just absolute length is what we're looking for here. We're looking
0:06:00for the longest thigh, not just like you have long thighs for your height. That's not good,
0:06:06right? So now I have five contenders for their royal finest. The first is JD.
0:06:15Okay, JD.
0:06:16JD at around, see now here we have a problem, around 49.5 centimeters.
0:06:26Now remember the thigh to beat is Dylan at 48 centimeters.
0:06:30Can you please stop saying the thigh to beat? Just don't say that again.
0:06:33No, I like it. It wasn't something that I realized sounded so fun until I read it out loud. It wasn't
0:06:39my intention when I wrote it down, but nevertheless, here we are. So, these images,
0:06:45by the way, I will just tell you, listeners, don't open these images around other people.
0:06:49Don't click.
0:06:50No, because there's a bunch of people with rulers in their laps.
0:06:53Yes. So, don't, like, I'd, these images will all be in the show notes, but like,
0:06:58You should open them in private, you know? You know when people install those fancy screen
0:07:04protectors that like if you're looking at somebody else's phone from like an angle,
0:07:09they're like... You need one of those. You need one of those. I always think like when I see people,
0:07:14I mean, I always think like, what are you opening on your phone? And maybe you're opening such
0:07:18pictures like people with rulers on their thighs. Now that kind of screen protector makes more sense
0:07:23to me now. So I was currently attempting to add the first image to the show notes.
0:07:29Did the CMS reject it because it's terrible? No, I added it accidentally to
0:07:35Cortex. So for a moment the most recent episode of Cortex had an entry called
0:07:44JD's thigh. Oh I've done that I've done that before I've put I put links. Oh I do
0:07:49- I do it all the time, man.
0:07:50I do it all the time.
0:07:52- You know what the CMS needs?
0:07:53You know that feature in iMessage?
0:07:56- Oh, I just did it again.
0:07:56- Where if you have a kid and it's like,
0:07:58hey, you're sending a bad picture to someone,
0:08:02we need that detection in the CMS.
0:08:03I'm gonna work on that.
0:08:05- Oh my God.
0:08:06Look at these pictures.
0:08:08- Okay, so you ready?
0:08:10- Yeah. - Yeah.
0:08:11- So first is JD.
0:08:13So if you open JD's image,
0:08:15boys, you should definitely do this right now.
0:08:17you will see what I am starting to call the about problem.
0:08:22With the way in which these images are taken,
0:08:25it is very hard to accurately identify
0:08:29the exact length of the thigh based on the tape measure.
0:08:32Right?
0:08:33So like, because people take these images like at an angle,
0:08:37so I am having to estimate to what I see here.
0:08:43And if any of the contenders disagree with me,
0:08:47I need a better image than the one you've provided.
0:08:51- Yes.
0:08:51- So I am saying JD is around 49.5 centimeters,
0:08:56which currently makes JD the Royal Finest.
0:09:01- JD has no problem with the base model iPad
0:09:04and the kick send.
0:09:05- No problem, you can put an iPad Pro on those sides.
0:09:08You know what I'm saying?
0:09:09- Yeah.
0:09:10- I now have an anonymous New Zealander.
0:09:13- Okay.
0:09:14- Again, to Steven's point,
0:09:15I don't know why you would do this.
0:09:17This person was very particular about,
0:09:20I must be anonymous.
0:09:21I'm not sure why.
0:09:22Their image also came from a OneDrive link,
0:09:24which is like a whole different thing.
0:09:26- Okay.
0:09:27- Their image is good.
0:09:29Like you can see on that image.
0:09:30- It's a good image.
0:09:31- Right, like they are. - Starting from the hip.
0:09:33Yeah, yeah.
0:09:34- This person, I think is a clear 49.5 centimeters.
0:09:38Maybe even a little bit more.
0:09:40- This is the kind of person
0:09:41measured their thigh before clearly. Look at the methodology here. It's very well done.
0:09:45Big tape measure, you know? Yeah. That bag had this tape measure for this. Well, I will say
0:09:51this anonymous New Zealander looks like they're in an office environment here, which is interesting
0:09:56as to where they chose to take their measurement, their thioness measurement. So now JD and
0:10:02anonymous New Zealander, they are tied. We potentially, we may give the title to anonymous
0:10:09New Zealand are because I think they may have a millimeter or two over JD. I now move on to Nate.
0:10:13Nate is saying that they are confidently 49 centimeters and I would agree. I would actually
0:10:23say that they are also in around 49.5 centimeters but none of this matters boys because in comes Ken.
0:10:31This is now, this now feels like the, what did you say earlier? Miss what?
0:10:37Miss integrity.
0:10:38This now feels like
0:10:40like a like one of those
0:10:42kinds of competitions.
0:10:43Now, Ken sent in an image.
0:10:46Now, Ken, I think you can quite
0:10:47clearly see, has beat the forty
0:10:49nine because Ken sent
0:10:51his his his rule is only in inches.
0:10:53So I had to do some calculations,
0:10:55but it's definitely over 20 inches.
0:10:57I think about twenty point three.
0:10:59But Ken's image, low
0:11:01quality. So it was hard for me to
0:11:03get the exact.
0:11:04So I went with fifty one
0:11:06centimeters. Okay. But none of this matters. Wow. Because in comes Will. Wow. Now, again,
0:11:14Will's image suffers from some of these issues here. It's a low quality image,
0:11:18and it's taken from an angle. But using some, like, almost like CSI-like enhancing, I am putting
0:11:29Will's thigh at 56 centimeters. Wow. Will. Which is eight centimeters longer thigh than Dylan.
0:11:40So I am currently crowning at 56 centimeters Will as the royal finest. Congratulations Will.
0:11:49Apple make an iPad studio just for you. You can put it on that thigh.
0:11:55You know what I'm saying?
0:11:57So that's the follow-up for today's episode.
0:12:00Can we
0:12:03just make a pact that this is over now?
0:12:05No, because you do this every now and again like Green Gate.
0:12:10Mmm, you know, but Green Gate was a real deal affecting real people. This is a real deal. This is a real deal.
0:12:16This is a real deal. These people have big thighs.
0:12:18So would you, you know what? We're just gonna see what happens. Maybe it's the end of it, but I can't say.
0:12:24This is gonna end with a thigh measuring contest on stage somewhere. I agree with this. Yes. I agree
0:12:31We need to get like a laser thigh measuring tool
0:12:33You can get like real precise about it
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0:14:15the show and relay FM. The next thing in the document just says "T.G. Surprise" and
0:14:21there's no bullet under it. So we're asked to clear time in today's show for this.
0:14:25I should take about 10 to 15 minutes, I guess. Well, depending on if you guys have questions
0:14:31or not. We'll find out. We'll find out. So I said many times that I would like to see
0:14:36Apple get weird, right? It's a recurring expression here on the show and it's a wish that I really
0:14:44believe in. I would like to see Apple get weird and do things that normally I wouldn't
0:14:48expect from Apple. And I think that's unfair. Like I've been thinking about it, like, why
0:14:53should I just want Apple to get weird? I should also get weird. Like I should lead by example
0:15:00in terms of doing weird things that people would not expect from me. Right?
0:15:04You want to put your best thigh forward in this conversation.
0:15:07Exactly. So out of that desire to get weird and because of peer pressure from Steven Hackett,
0:15:15I now have an Apple Watch Ultra.
0:15:16Hey!
0:15:17Oh!
0:15:18Dude!
0:15:19Yeah, I've had it for the past few days and I have thoughts.
0:15:27This is not what I was expecting at all. I had some like theories of today's episode.
0:15:33This was not one of them.
0:15:35Uh-huh. I'm glad I was able to surprise you.
0:15:38What did you go for?
0:15:39Uh, so I was taking a look at the, uh, the three configurations that you can get,
0:15:47and the only band that made sense to me, I think it's the one that Steven got, the Ocean one.
0:15:54Steven has all of them, Federico, so you have to narrow it down.
0:15:57I'm wearing the Ocean band today, though, in white.
0:15:59Okay.
0:16:00I got the white Ocean band.
0:16:03Yes, Watch Twins.
0:16:05Yeah. So, um, and I mean, so, okay, a bunch of thoughts that I saved privately, uh, in
0:16:13my, in my notes app so that I could...
0:16:15Which is what? What notes app today?
0:16:17So this is a whole thing that I will...
0:16:20Okay, nevermind. We can't go into it today.
0:16:23No, no, no. You made fun of, you make fun of me for like, which is what, what's the
0:16:28the Notes app today. Actually, I've been using this for like four months and I haven't talked
0:16:36about it anywhere because it's part of a thing that I'm planning for Mac Stories and the
0:16:40club. I've been using Notion for the past four months and I haven't changed at all.
0:16:47I've been just refining this setup over and over and it was a huge learning curve for
0:16:54me in December, but I haven't switched since. So I've been using the same thing for four
0:16:59months and I'm still learning my way through. Anyway, we'll talk about this story for another
0:17:03time. Sorry for another time. So yeah, I've been saving thoughts in Ocean and I'm looking
0:17:07at these thoughts right now. So I love the look I thought and I was concerned that it
0:17:13was going to look weird on my wrist. Turns out that it actually looks very nice. Yes,
0:17:20I wouldn't call myself as a small person.
0:17:25So I think, you know,
0:17:26given the relative size of my wrist and my hands.
0:17:28- Measure your wrists.
0:17:29(laughing)
0:17:32- I don't have the equipment.
0:17:34It looks nice.
0:17:35It looks really nice on my wrist.
0:17:37I was concerned that the increased width of the watch
0:17:42was gonna cause problems with my tattoo
0:17:44that almost extends to the wrist area,
0:17:48but no, that's fine.
0:17:49the tattoo doesn't go there. So it doesn't cover the sensors. I love the...
0:17:56That's unbelievable to me that like that is... I understand why that doesn't... why that's
0:18:03an issue, right? That the light can't pass through and it can't use the sensors. But
0:18:08it is still just surprising to me that after all these years there is not a way around
0:18:12that.
0:18:13I mean I think it's just the way light works.
0:18:15Yeah, no, no, I get it. But like, they, you know,
0:18:18what I'm just saying is so many smart things are done,
0:18:20so many advancements in technology and how stuff works, etc, etc. Right?
0:18:24And it's just surprising to me that this is one that has not been able to be solved.
0:18:29Love the titanium. Just love the general look.
0:18:33The flat display that is bigger, you know, chef's kiss. I totally love it.
0:18:38And the fact that it's raised above the body of the watch,
0:18:43I really like the look, I gotta say. I really like the look and the orange detail on the action
0:18:48button and on the digital crown. That's, I think it's really nice. The crown guard takes some time
0:18:56to sort of adjust to, I think. It felt kind of weird after seven years of Apple Watch.
0:19:03It almost felt like I couldn't reach the side button or the digital crown because of the crown
0:19:10Now I'm used to it, but it took some adjustment, especially in the first couple of days.
0:19:17I still kind of struggled to find the position of the side button, but again, it's seven
0:19:22years of muscle memory versus like five days, four days of Apple Watch Ultra.
0:19:28So it'll be fine.
0:19:30Other thing that I love, the battery life.
0:19:32That was probably the main reason why I was, and I mentioned this on the shows, like I
0:19:38getting tired with my Series 7 Apple Watch anyway. Basically this thing I can just top
0:19:44it up every couple of days and it's fine. Like you can use it for two days and then
0:19:49you top it up for like 30 minutes. I have a fast charger on my nightstand and it goes
0:19:54on for another two days. It's perfect. This is exactly what I wanted and I've been really
0:19:59happy with that aspect. I have tried to go all in once again on the sort of lifestyle
0:20:06of what if I just want to go out with an Apple watch with cellular mode? Will I like it compared
0:20:14to when I last tried it three, four years ago with the Series 5 or something? And the
0:20:24answer is I like it better, but it's still not perfect. And the still not perfect is
0:20:30mostly, well, two things. There are still some apps that do not have support for standalone
0:20:37mode on the Apple watch. So apps that do not work if you just run them on the Apple watch
0:20:45without an iPhone nearby. So many apps still do not have that support. In fact, if you
0:20:52have suggestions for me for standalone watch apps, please send them my way. And the second
0:20:58problem, which is a very specific problem I think for especially I would guess European users,
0:21:04WhatsApp. So WhatsApp, you will get notifications if you're away from home without the iPhone,
0:21:14with just the Apple Watch with you, you will get notifications. Supposedly you can reply to them,
0:21:20because I haven't tried this, but I saw the reply button. However, there's no WhatsApp app for Apple
0:21:27Watch. I tried to install one of those like third-party WhatsApp clients from the Apple
0:21:35Watch app store. It didn't work. They basically faked their way into being like web clients
0:21:43and the one that I got called WhatsApp, I believe. It doesn't work in standalone mode.
0:21:52Otherwise, the apps that I tried, I had a pretty good experience. Love Pocket Casts.
0:22:00Pocket Casts, I already mentioned how I really like it on the iPhone. It's got a design that
0:22:05makes sense for me. The Trim Silence option, the sound effect with the Med Max setting,
0:22:15it works really well. And I love Pocket Cast even more on the Apple Watch,
0:22:20because it just worked.
0:22:22So it automatically picked up my episodes
0:22:25in the up next queue.
0:22:27No need to do any weird dance of like,
0:22:30make these episodes,
0:22:31specifically send them to the Apple watch.
0:22:33No, it just picked the episodes from the up next queue,
0:22:37synced my position.
0:22:38So when I walked out of the house in the morning
0:22:40to walk the dogs,
0:22:41I connected my AirPods and picked up where I was listening.
0:22:44When I was back home,
0:22:45I closed Pocket Casts on the watch,
0:22:48brought it up on the iPhone,
0:22:50waited like three seconds.
0:22:52It synced my position from the watch
0:22:54and I continued listening on the iPhone.
0:22:56It was perfect.
0:22:57I love it. - That's cool.
0:22:58- Another app that, now, here you are allowed
0:23:02to make fun of me because I still haven't made
0:23:04a decision about task managers.
0:23:08I was looking for, like, I've been looking for a task--
0:23:10- Even though there was a decision to be made.
0:23:13- This will make more sense once I will finally finish
0:23:18this bigger story that I've been working on.
0:23:20I needed to find a task manager
0:23:23that is truly cross-platform,
0:23:25that works on iOS, iPadOS, MacOS, Windows, the web,
0:23:29like something that is everywhere.
0:23:32And of course, Apple Watch.
0:23:33And now you may be surprised by how short the list
0:23:38of task managers that run natively everywhere
0:23:42and sync fast, like with good performance,
0:23:46and have a native watch client, like that list is really short.
0:23:52There's one choice.
0:23:53There's one, well, what do you think the choice is?
0:23:55Todoist.
0:23:57Or TicTic.
0:23:58It's the only one, right?
0:23:59Or remember the milk.
0:24:00TicTic.
0:24:01Thank you, Steven.
0:24:02OK, so there is more than, but Todoist does all that, right?
0:24:05No, it won't work in standalone mode.
0:24:09And broadly speaking, it was much, much slower.
0:24:14Even when the iPhone was nearby,
0:24:17it wasn't as fast as TicTic.
0:24:19I've been really impressed by TicTic.
0:24:22Works everywhere.
0:24:23It's got desktop clients, iPhone, iPad app.
0:24:27It's been featured by Apple a bunch of times.
0:24:29I believe MKBHD uses it.
0:24:31- That's the only place I know it from, honestly.
0:24:33- Yes, yes. - It's like,
0:24:34yeah, I know it's what MKBHD uses.
0:24:35- On the Apple Watch, it's incredible.
0:24:36It runs in standalone mode and you open it,
0:24:39it syncs over cellular, your latest changes.
0:24:43You can create tasks and they will show up basically immediately on another device.
0:24:49So I've been using that.
0:24:50Whoa, it has an Eisenhower matrix.
0:24:53Yes.
0:24:54What does that mean?
0:24:55It's got all those features that honestly I don't use.
0:24:57Habit tracking, focus timer.
0:24:59It does too much.
0:25:00What is an Eisenhower matrix?
0:25:02It's like to divide your day into like low to highest priority items.
0:25:08Damn.
0:25:09I think.
0:25:10No idea.
0:25:11And shortcuts.
0:25:12Obviously, one of the reasons why I approached Notion in the first place is the same thing
0:25:18I just mentioned about a task manager. I wanted to have something that would allow me to capture
0:25:23information and have it be available everywhere, no matter the device I was using. Now, I still
0:25:32use Obsidian as my text editor. I will probably never stop using Obsidian as my text editor.
0:25:38I just love the thing so much for markdown writing. It's perfect for me. But for note-taking,
0:25:43one of the big downsides of Obsidian, and maybe this will be fixed in the future, I
0:25:47don't know, but Obsidian doesn't have a web API. Obsidian is just, it's an app, and if
0:25:55you want to capture information, and this is especially problematic on Apple platforms,
0:26:00the app needs to be running in the in the foreground, basically. And so when I was thinking
0:26:06about like, well, how can I put together a system to capture information on my watch?
0:26:14Let's say that I'm walking the dogs and I have an idea and I want to save that idea.
0:26:18Well, most people would say, well, you can use drafts and that works, but drafts is only
0:26:23on Apple platforms and I've been using Notion instead. So I have been putting together,
0:26:31and this will actually be an automation academy class in the future.
0:26:35I've been putting together a series of shortcuts for Notion, and this is why this is incredible
0:26:41for me.
0:26:42I created a simple shortcut that uses the Notion API.
0:26:46It lets me, if I'm using the iPhone or iPad, it lets me type something.
0:26:51If I'm using the Apple Watch, it also lets me type something, which is one of my complaints
0:26:56about watchOS.
0:26:57When did Apple switch from dictation being the default mode of text input to the keyboard being the default mode?
0:27:06They have it exactly backwards, in my opinion.
0:27:09I like the keyboard, but I understand.
0:27:12No, on the iPhone you have the keyboard and dictation is an option.
0:27:17On the watch, they should do the dictation as a default and the keyboard is an option.
0:27:21Well, remember for me right now, my microphone is broken, so maybe I'm biased.
0:27:25- I can't do it.
0:27:29- In any case, I created a shortcut
0:27:31that lets me dictate something.
0:27:33I just need to press the microphone button.
0:27:35And the thing I didn't know is that shortcuts now
0:27:38on the Apple Watch, it runs in standalone mode,
0:27:41even and especially shortcuts that make a web request.
0:27:46So my shortcut to save something to my note in Notion
0:27:50where I drop ideas and thoughts,
0:27:53It totally works in standalone mode.
0:27:56I was walking the dogs, saved a couple of things,
0:27:59came back home, opened the Notion web app,
0:28:01and those notes were there.
0:28:03No iPhone involved.
0:28:05So that was pretty good.
0:28:06Like, yeah, I have a complication on my watch face
0:28:09and I tap it and I dictate something,
0:28:11and that line of text,
0:28:14I can access it immediately from any platform.
0:28:17That was pretty good.
0:28:19What is bad is that running shortcuts on the watch
0:28:22could still be a lot better.
0:28:24You can add a specific shortcut as a complication
0:28:28to your watch face, but every time you tap it,
0:28:31it says run shortcut,
0:28:33and you need to confirm by tapping a run button.
0:28:37- Boo.
0:28:39- Remove that confirmation step,
0:28:40or at least let me remove it.
0:28:42Like maybe enable it by default,
0:28:45but let me go into the settings and say,
0:28:47when I run this on the watch,
0:28:49I don't want that extra step.
0:28:51I agree with having the step, in case you accidentally knock it, but let me make that decision as to whether I want that as a thing. I agree with that.
0:29:03Capturing tasks and notes, really fun with tick-ticks and shortcuts while in cellular standalone mode.
0:29:11Managing notifications on the watch, still silly, still bad.
0:29:16Why is the clear all button at the top of your list of notifications?
0:29:22I do not understand.
0:29:24Why do I need to scroll all the way up to clear my notifications?
0:29:28I don't get it.
0:29:30And the action button.
0:29:31I like it.
0:29:32I've been using it like Steven as a way to toggle the flashlight quickly.
0:29:37It works really well.
0:29:40It's actually been very useful, like I was walking around the house at night and I needed
0:29:44to find something and just click the action button and the flashlight comes on and it
0:29:48removes that tiny bit of friction from swiping up to C control center and finding the flashlight
0:29:55toggle.
0:29:56It's nice, but I wish I could, and Underscore was actually mentioning this on the latest
0:30:04really good episode of Upgrade with you, Myke.
0:30:08And I agree with underscore suggestion of like, I wish the action button could be more
0:30:15sort of programmable in the sense of like, let me choose different behaviors in different
0:30:20contexts. Like maybe if I'm on the watch face, I want the action button to do this. But if
0:30:25I'm using a workout app or if I'm using, I don't know, a weather app, I want the action
0:30:32button to do something else. Like more sort of conditions maybe to sort of tweak the behaviors
0:30:39of the action button depending on what you're doing on the watch. That would be cool.
0:30:42I think it's cool that you both have found like a use that you like from the button,
0:30:48which is to turn the flashlight on. I will say as a non-Apple Watch ultra wearer,
0:30:54that is a ton of real estate for a not massively helpful action, like from my perspective.
0:31:01Yeah, but the button is flush on the side.
0:31:05But still.
0:31:06If you just look at it, it's like an orange lozenge.
0:31:08It's not...
0:31:09My point is I'm just not convinced that if that's the most useful thing that you two
0:31:14can find to do with it, that it's been really well thought out.
0:31:18Oh.
0:31:19Just kind of going on what Federico's saying.
0:31:22There are three buttons on the thing, and one of them turns on the flashlight.
0:31:26I'm not sure that that is that useful.
0:31:31I don't really think of the Apple Watch as a flashlight device, you know?
0:31:35Like sure it can do it, but it would be more useful to me if it did something which is
0:31:40inherent to like what watchOS is.
0:31:44I don't know what that is, but it just seems like a strange thing to me.
0:31:49It's like, oh I have this button, this button, it turns on the flashlight.
0:31:53I'm like, what flashlight?
0:31:54Well it just illuminates the screen.
0:31:56Okay.
0:31:57You know?
0:31:58That's fair.
0:31:59you both have found a use for it. Federico, how do you feel that the Apple Watch Ultra fits in with
0:32:05your general fashion aesthetic? I think it's pretty, it's pretty all right. The color goes
0:32:12with pretty much anything and it comes down to the... Including the orange? Yeah, I mean I got,
0:32:18I got orange on my arms. True, you're a very colorful boy. Yeah, I'm very colorful. So yeah,
0:32:24the orange works and it mostly comes down to band choice. So I may have to check out some other
0:32:33new options now that I have this watch. But yeah, I think it works pretty well for me. I think it
0:32:40works all right, especially with the orange and the colors of the tattoos around it. Yeah.
0:32:45This is not what I expected at all from today's episode.
0:32:48Well, I'm glad. I'm glad.
0:32:51Yeah, I'm glad you're enjoying it.
0:32:52It's the best Apple Watch ever made.
0:32:55Once again, Federico and I have done something awesome and Myke won't join us.
0:32:59Here's my thinking.
0:33:01I had this thought. I was considering it again recently.
0:33:03I'm just going to wait until the next one now.
0:33:06I'm like six months away.
0:33:08Right? Like I'm six months away.
0:33:10I will want to upgrade my Apple Watch for sure this year.
0:33:13And so I want to I want to see what they got to offer,
0:33:16because if Apple does what I want them to do, which is to redesign
0:33:19the standard one that might be more enticing to me than the ultra so I don't
0:33:27want to make any decisions right now on it I'm the boring one I guess okay every
0:33:32group needs a boring one I'll be the boring one people in the discord are
0:33:36wondering will they update the ultra this year I think they will I think that
0:33:40having like one Apple watch fall out of step update wise it's not the low-end
0:33:47one doesn't make any sense. I think it's like saying are they gonna update the iPhone Pro
0:33:50this year? Like yes, there will be a new Ultra this year and it will just get whatever new
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0:36:27(horn honking)
0:36:31We don't have time for that.
0:36:33- No, no. - Yes we do.
0:36:34No, we have the Jeremy's to play.
0:36:36Oh, we do have the Jeremy's to play, don't we?
0:36:40Oh my God.
0:36:41Welcome back to the quizzies.
0:36:43Oh my God.
0:36:43Where now we are taking the Jeremy's
0:36:47inside of the quiz-y umbrella.
0:36:49What?
0:36:50Pointing points on the line.
0:36:53Wait.
0:36:54Every year when Apple introduces its new emoji,
0:36:59they, Federico stays hidden
0:37:01from what these emoji will look like.
0:37:04because once the emoji are released to the world on this show,
0:37:07we play a little game where Federico has to try and guess the names of said
0:37:12emoji. We've been doing this for many years.
0:37:14The twist this year is for every emoji that Federico gets is correct.
0:37:19He will score five points in the Jarett in the quizzes
0:37:24for every, well, we remember we're small now, right?
0:37:28We're not going big anymore. It's small points.
0:37:30For every Emojida, Federico guesses incorrectly.
0:37:34He will, Steven will score 10 points.
0:37:37- Ooh. - Oh no.
0:37:38- Now Federico, I am basing this on your previous,
0:37:43there are two reasons for this.
0:37:45One, it is based on your previous experience,
0:37:48you're good at this.
0:37:49Two, Steven has zero agency in this game.
0:37:52So I feel like this is how we're gonna play this
0:37:55and we'll see how it goes for the future.
0:37:57- Wow.
0:37:58We currently stand at Federico on 360 points in the 2023 quizzes,
0:38:03and Steven at 400 points.
0:38:06We have the image as provided by Emojipedia.
0:38:10These are Apple's official images for the new,
0:38:14smaller set of emoji that are finding their way into
0:38:19iOS. This is in iOS 15 point, wait,
0:38:23what are we on now? 16.4.
0:38:25Hang on, hang on. We have something to deal with here.
0:38:28A bunch of people are saying that Federico cheated,
0:38:30that he had a post on Macedon about this.
0:38:32Did you cheat?
0:38:34- No, I haven't looked as always.
0:38:35I haven't looked at the names.
0:38:36- What could he have cheated about?
0:38:37- He could have looked at the blog post.
0:38:39- I posted the article that John wrote on Mac stories.
0:38:43- This happens every year.
0:38:45He doesn't read them.
0:38:46We go through this every year.
0:38:47- Yeah.
0:38:48Do you normally read what John posts on your website?
0:38:49Just out of curiosity.
0:38:51- Yes, I normally do.
0:38:52I normally edit everything, but not this one.
0:38:55- This is very normal.
0:38:56Like every year we'll say,
0:38:57are but there was this post and Federico say I didn't read that part like okay I
0:39:01just wanted to I just wanted to address it because the discord was getting spicy
0:39:04well they do they like to get upset you know but this time we're not gonna pay
0:39:09any attention to them so here's what we're gonna do we got the nut we've got
0:39:12the image here I think it should be in your podcast app of choice if you want
0:39:15to follow along but it'll also be links in the show notes to these images so you
0:39:19can get them for yourself Federico you have the image here in our show notes
0:39:23We're gonna start from-- - And I'm making,
0:39:25I am making a bold claim.
0:39:28- All right.
0:39:29- I will, a bold, really bold claim.
0:39:32- Okay.
0:39:32- I will get more than 80% of these correct.
0:39:37- Ooh, I would like to maybe,
0:39:40like I'm gonna suggest something here
0:39:42that we've not done in the quizzes before,
0:39:44but rules are fluid.
0:39:46Are you willing to wager some points on that prediction?
0:39:50So 80% out of 21 should be more than 16, correct?
0:39:5516 out of 21.
0:39:58- Here's what I said, so you've got to get 16 out of 21.
0:40:00Steven, how many do you think he's gonna get?
0:40:02Do you think he'll get more or less than 80%?
0:40:06- Less.
0:40:07- Okay, so we are gonna wager this then.
0:40:08We're gonna wager this.
0:40:09So there are double points available.
0:40:12- Okay.
0:40:13(laughs)
0:40:14- Whoever's correct.
0:40:15- I love the chaos of this.
0:40:17- All right, so I'm gonna rephrase this
0:40:19this is getting complicated. So for every emoji that Federico guesses correctly, he will score
0:40:32five points in the quizzes. For every emoji he guesses incorrectly, he will... Steven will score
0:40:4110 points. If Federico scores more than 80% of the, like, correctly guesses 80% of the names,
0:40:49he will get double his points. If it is less, Steven will get double his points.
0:40:54That's how we're doing this. I love it. Okay. I love it. Okay. Okay. So. Alright. And by the way,
0:41:01the post that people are referring to in the Discord is, and this is so silly,
0:41:08Cable Sasser was asking if the iOS keyboard put in an emoji if you typed "honk" and I typed "honk"
0:41:17and I'm pretty confident that "honk" is not the name of this emoji. I mean, come on, it doesn't
0:41:22take a genius to understand what this emoji is. And it doesn't matter anyway because the name,
0:41:27the official name might as well be different and I would wager money that it's not gonna be "honk".
0:41:33Here's the thing, here's the thing, and I want to restate what we're doing here.
0:41:36Federico has to guess the official names as given by the Emoji Consortium of the... what is it called?
0:41:47The Unique Code Consortium? The Emoji Illuminati. Oh and we forgot, by the way, this is called
0:41:56the Jeremy's in honor of our fallen friend Jeremy Burge. We forgot to do the honorific at the
0:42:02the beginning, this is in honor of fallen creator of emoji Jeremy Burge, we named the
0:42:09Jeremy's after him. I got too excited with the quiz part and we did not do the correct
0:42:13honoring of Jeremy at the beginning of this segment.
0:42:17Okay, so to go back to the addendum to the rules, if I get more than 80% of these correct,
0:42:26I double my points.
0:42:27Correct, but if you get less than...
0:42:29If I don't...
0:42:30Stephen's points get doubled.
0:42:32Okay. I love this and I love that you've embraced this, the two of you.
0:42:37So we're starting with the first emoji, Federico, what is its name?
0:42:42Okay. Okay, so we're looking at...
0:42:46These are not my official guesses. I'm just telling what I see.
0:42:52This is a so we know that they call this face. This is this is a face that is sort of
0:42:58Rolling or shaking I guess it's meant to describe when you're like
0:43:04Agitated or nervous or something? I can't work out what this is meant
0:43:09Like what is this one will be used for like, well, I don't know where I'll use this one yet
0:43:14Yeah, I think it's one that will find its own meaning over time
0:43:19Yeah. Once the teens get it, we'll know what it means. Oh, you know what? Yeah, you're probably right. I am going with
0:43:25shaking face
0:43:28We can we can harmonize for this how great if you don't know why we just did that
0:43:35Forget it
0:43:39Explaining at this point that is five points to Federico shaking face is the correct name
0:43:46Next up we have three hearts. Now we already... so the second one, the first one in this list of hearts
0:43:53There is already a blue heart in the iOS keyboard
0:43:58So I'm gonna go with the obvious light blue heart
0:44:03That's a correct answer, another five points. And on that note, I'm gonna guess grey heart
0:44:16This is too many hums. This is too many hums. We're humming too much. You can just...
0:44:20Steven, you can just tell if this is correct or not.
0:44:22That was correct. Great hearts is another five points. 15 points. You're flying through them.
0:44:28Okay, and the next one should be pink heart.
0:44:32Correct.
0:44:34Okay.
0:44:36Now...
0:44:37These two hands...
0:44:42Okay, so just like with the face, we know that they're gonna use "hand" in the official name.
0:44:48Maybe. Is it a hand?
0:44:51So this is a... so, well, yeah, I think it's a hand.
0:44:56So the... and they do... because I have been tricked by this emoji before.
0:45:01I believe it was like with something... last year, there was something like facing left and facing right.
0:45:10There was something along those lines.
0:45:12But this is a hand.
0:45:15And a hand doesn't face.
0:45:18[Laughter]
0:45:21I mean, I don't know.
0:45:23Doesn't hand face?
0:45:24You know, while we're taking this moment of deliberation,
0:45:27I was just preparing for inevitabilities in our document later on, okay?
0:45:31So we're doing about an 80%, right?
0:45:3480% of 21 is 16.8.
0:45:38Are we rounding up or down?
0:45:41Well, I don't know.
0:45:43Okay, so we're rounding to 17.
0:45:45Federico, you need to get 17 of these correct.
0:45:47I just wanted to double check that first before we get to later on,
0:45:50and then there's a court case, you know what I mean?
0:45:53Okay.
0:45:54So there are two hands, they're doing something in opposite directions.
0:45:59So what is the meaning of this hand?
0:46:03What's the meaning of this?
0:46:04Like the gesture could be like to to stop
0:46:08to push to
0:46:11Touch yeah hand touching could be weird. I am gonna go with
0:46:19number five
0:46:22hand
0:46:24pushing
0:46:26Right
0:46:28Myke that's up to you to decide because I actually can't judge these. Yeah. No, you've got skin in the game
0:46:34You got skin in the game. So you're saying hand pushing right?
0:46:36No, no, I'm not asking for you to change it. That's that's the answer. I'm gonna give you that answer. Yeah. Yeah
0:46:44The answer is right woods pushing hand, huh?
0:46:48I think that that the pushing for me was the part that clinched it when he said pushing
0:46:53Cuz I wouldn't call that pushing there's no push. There's no push action. It was there's no push Jerry
0:47:00Yeah, that just looks to be like rightwards like, I don't know.
0:47:03No, but you are, see, it's the extended palm, it's the end of the wrist, like, that's like...
0:47:11No, I get it, I get it, but what I'm saying, I'm giving you it, you're getting this.
0:47:16Rightwards pushing hand is the name of this emoji.
0:47:19Okay, can you do the opposite for the other one, leftwards pushing hand?
0:47:23Yes, there you go, that's another five points.
0:47:26Okay.
0:47:26So cleaning up so far, six out of six correct.
0:47:29look, this may go contentious, but like, no one would get Wrightwoods. Who would say that?
0:47:36Wrightwoods? No.
0:47:37Come on. It's the same problem we had last time with these. It really seems like that name is
0:47:45not the best. And I think these will be used for high fives. That's like a high five.
0:47:49Oh yeah, like I pull up one and then you go, "Oh, this is how you get a high five rejected, man."
0:47:55You know, send the emoji and just never get it back?
0:47:59You left hanging?
0:48:00Or the other person does the fist bump emoji then it's awkward.
0:48:03And that's sweet and that's awkward.
0:48:05Yeah, that's so good!
0:48:06You do the high five so one person sends a fist bump,
0:48:11the other person sends a handshake like, ugh!
0:48:14It'd be terrible.
0:48:16We're on to emoji number seven.
0:48:17Federico's got six out of six so far.
0:48:2030 points.
0:48:23Okay, now we're doing animals, it seems. So number seven. Well, you tell me.
0:48:31Seems like it. Number seven, this is a moose.
0:48:34Yeah, that's correct. It is in fact a moose.
0:48:38Okay, number eight. This is a...
0:48:42Oh, good boy. This is a donkey.
0:48:46What did you say? Good boy.
0:48:48Yeah, I like it. I like the guy.
0:48:51That's another one. Donkey is correct. Federico, you're doing very well.
0:48:54Stephen, how are you feeling so far in the game?
0:48:57Not great. Not great, Jerry.
0:48:59He's blowing through these.
0:48:59Not great, Jerry.
0:49:00Number nine. Now, this is tricky because to my eye, these are...
0:49:12And this is not my answer, but these are sort of look like angel wings,
0:49:17but that has religious connotations, and I don't know if they would call the emoji
0:49:24"angel wings", but these are also like "feathered wings", and we are in the animal category.
0:49:31Would they call them angel wings? These are wings, they could just... so I am torn between angel wings,
0:49:39feathered wings and just wings. Oh boy. I don't think they would call them angel wings.
0:49:49Well, whatever. I'm going with...
0:49:55I'm going with feathered wings is my answer. The most tense that I've been so far.
0:50:05I'm giving the points to Stephen.
0:50:08Awwww.
0:50:08This emoji is called "wing".
0:50:11No!
0:50:12Wing?
0:50:13Now the reason I'm giving it to him is you gave it as one of your three possible answers.
0:50:18So you knew it was out there.
0:50:20Right? You said angel wings,
0:50:22feathered wings,
0:50:24wings.
0:50:24It was possible for you, you know?
0:50:27This is just wing.
0:50:29I will say, angel wings, I see where you went there.
0:50:32There are multiple angel emojis.
0:50:34So like, you know, they could have done it, but that is a wing.
0:50:38Okay. So that is 10 points for Steven.
0:50:40This is one of those things where the scale of emoji is hilarious because that
0:50:45wing is the size of a donkey, but also the size of a hand.
0:50:48Why is the moose just a head? The donkey is a full animal.
0:50:52So, okay. I thought about that when I saw these and I think because from the front,
0:50:57front of moose is very noticeably a moose because it has its antlers and a donkey
0:51:02you need to see from the side because a lot about what a donkey is and people's mind is the coloration why and from the
0:51:07Front it was like it looks like a dumb horse
0:51:09So you could show me you could show me a moose in the same profile as a donkey and I could work that maybe
0:51:15But I think it's about like making it the most clear as possible
0:51:19But yeah, I get what you're saying like it is
0:51:20I mean there is maybe a great question as to why do we need moose and donkey emojis?
0:51:24Like why I mean Canada's very excited. I have no doubt about the donkey. They love donkeys in Canada
0:51:31Congratulations to Canada, you've got the donkey. No, I said donkey, you know.
0:51:35Maybe they're excited about donkeys, too.
0:51:37Could be. Emoji number 10. Okay, so we are looking at... this is not my answer. This is a black bird.
0:51:46Now, is it a raven? I don't think it's a raven. I don't think ravens look like that. I mean, they're black,
0:51:54but they also have black
0:51:56beaks, whatever. What's it called? Nose beak?
0:52:00- Beak. - Is it called a beak?
0:52:01- Yeah. - Beak, yeah.
0:52:03They have dark gray or black beaks, I think.
0:52:07Ah, boy.
0:52:09What is this creature?
0:52:12I'm gonna say black bird.
0:52:14- You are correct.
0:52:15It is in fact a black bird, which is a type of bird.
0:52:20- Number 11.
0:52:20So I was second-guessing myself.
0:52:24Like, again, not my final answer.
0:52:27To me, this is obviously a goose.
0:52:29I was second guessing myself like could it be a duck? No, it's not duck. Could it be a swan? No, it's not a swan
0:52:35So I'm gonna go with goose
0:52:37Correct. It isn't goose. It is a goose
0:52:40Geez, he's for geez. Killing me
0:52:42It's only 10 to 50
0:52:46everything is still to play for
0:52:48Because I think every for me at least we're like 11 out of 21
0:52:53That was the easy part. It's getting ready to get harder
0:52:57Yes, as it tends to be. The people, hearts and animals, that part we can, we got that
0:53:03on lock. It's then the second half where it's, who could tell?
0:53:08This is a, this is a weird one. First I thought it was like a fancy hat, like one of those
0:53:14hippie hats. But then I realized like, it looks like, it sort of looks like, I think,
0:53:20I think it's a fish given the animal category, but why does he have like the command icon
0:53:25symbol on its head? Is it like command fish? That's what we need, another fish. Weird
0:53:31fish, command fish. It's Weird Fish's cousin. This is... I mean, I don't know if... See,
0:53:37the thing is, I don't know if this already exists. I guess not. I'm gonna go with the
0:53:41boring answer. I'm gonna go with jellyfish. It's not just the boring answer, it's the
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0:55:25Alright, at this point in the game, I'll give a reminder of where we are.
0:55:30So Federico scored 55 points.
0:55:34Steven has 10 points.
0:55:37There are 21 total answers.
0:55:39We have done 12.
0:55:41So Federico has one of the four incorrect that he can, like if he gets to four incorrect,
0:55:49that's when all the point doubling begins.
0:55:51We're up to number 13.
0:55:53So number 13, this is, this is, I think this is what my mom used to have in her garden
0:56:00when I was little.
0:56:03I'm not sure about the shape of the flower, but the color, I mean it reminds me of that.
0:56:09Oh boy, they do have specific flowers in the emoji already. I'm gonna go with lavender.
0:56:19I see why you won't move it.
0:56:21It's not lavender?
0:56:22It's not lavender. That my friend is a hyacinth.
0:56:25Now, you may ask yourself why hyacinth? And Myke will say "I don't know".
0:56:30I don't know! Why? We added one flower this year, it's the hyacinth.
0:56:35Next move on! Like, I don't get it. I don't understand.
0:56:38understand okay all right well that makes this very it's gonna come down I
0:56:45think it is my friend I think it's gonna come down to the wire you're on to
0:56:49number 14 all right so initially when I first saw this so when I saw it as a
0:56:55tiny image on Mastodon I thought it looked I was very creeped out by it
0:57:00because I thought it looked like a little withered baby but turns out this
0:57:05This is actually ginger.
0:57:08You'd be surprised.
0:57:10It's actually wizard baby.
0:57:12Can you imagine?
0:57:15Very specific.
0:57:16No, we got ginger.
0:57:17Well, they chose hyacinth.
0:57:20You got as a point correct.
0:57:22That's another five points for Federico.
0:57:23We got a number 15.
0:57:27These are peas.
0:57:28Okay, I know I have skin in the game, but peas would be like loose on a plate.
0:57:36These are inside a pea pod.
0:57:40And that's the name.
0:57:41Pea pod?
0:57:42This is a pea pod.
0:57:44That's what this is?
0:57:46Yes.
0:57:48I'm sorry Federico.
0:57:50It's not peas.
0:57:51Peas are loose.
0:57:52This is a pea pod.
0:57:53I'm sorry Federico.
0:57:54Okay.
0:57:55another 10 points for Steven, bringing Steven to 30 points, you to 60 points.
0:57:59You have three incorrect.
0:58:01Oh, I have three incorrect.
0:58:03All right.
0:58:05So the next one.
0:58:07So I think there's a, so this is in Italy.
0:58:11This is what we call, this is not my answer.
0:58:13This is what we call a hand fan.
0:58:16And I think the hand modifier is necessary because I think that's already a,
0:58:20an emoji for like a regular fan, like an, an electric one.
0:58:24I should... are they gonna call it hand fan?
0:58:31So the thing about the hand fan,
0:58:37that is my main problem with this.
0:58:40So I'm pretty confident that it's a hand fan.
0:58:42But, and they show this in the image,
0:58:47the hand fan, it's like this object that you can
0:58:52like, fold? Like open and close? So they could probably, like, if they were extra evil, they
0:59:04could probably go for like open hand fan or hand fan unfolded or just maybe like a folding
0:59:15hand fan? It's open. Would you call it as an object a folding hand fan?
0:59:21It's up to you, really.
0:59:22Yeah, we can't answer any of these questions.
0:59:24I'm enjoying the questions.
0:59:26I'm gonna go with...
0:59:27Uhhh...
0:59:28Whatever.
0:59:29Uhhh...
0:59:30Can I get another one wrong?
0:59:31I don't know how the math works exactly.
0:59:33Like, if this is the fourth,
0:59:36is that butt pursuit at 80%, right?
0:59:39So I feel like...
0:59:42What would it be then?
0:59:44If it's a...
0:59:45Folding hand fan.
0:59:47If I could give bonus points,
0:59:50I would.
0:59:51Because I cannot believe you got that one right.
0:59:53That is correct. Folding Hand Fan.
0:59:55Nice.
0:59:56That is...
0:59:57That is incredible.
1:00:02Yeah. So Kate's saying, and I'm going to go with Kate's ruling here,
1:00:05you can get one wrong, but no more.
1:00:07So you can get four, but that's...
1:00:10Then you're at your limit.
1:00:12I'm pretty confident that I can
1:00:15that I can guess the other ones because I know these ones.
1:00:19Okay, so the 17. I know this because I see Sylvia using it all the time.
1:00:24She's been watching tutorials and videos like this is a hair pic.
1:00:29Oh, nice. Yep, correct.
1:00:31I was wondering about that one. Like, would you call it a comb?
1:00:35No, it's not that. This is a hair pic.
1:00:37Number 18.
1:00:39I would be so ashamed to get this wrong.
1:00:42As a long time Samba de Amigo fan,
1:00:46These are Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Maraqas, baby.
1:00:49Uh-oh.
1:00:50No, you got it right.
1:00:50I wanted to put some doubt into here
1:00:53because you were so confident coming into that one.
1:00:55[LAUGHS]
1:00:57Number 19.
1:00:59This is what I used to play as a kid in middle school
1:01:03with questionable result.
1:01:06This is a flute.
1:01:07Correct.
1:01:09Now, number 20.
1:01:10What am I looking at?
1:01:12Is this like a symbol for like a guild, like an RPG guild or something?
1:01:21This must be some religious thing that, or like a country specific thing that I have no idea what it is.
1:01:32It's, I don't know.
1:01:36There's no point, right? I'm just going to give Steven the point. You won't get this, right?
1:01:40So Stephen just gets the points. I am gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, uh, three swords and
1:01:46a circle. This is called the Kanda. It is the symbol of the Sikh faith, which attained its
1:01:52current form around the 1930s during the Ghadar movement. I am so sorry for getting this wrong.
1:01:59It's the first time in my life that I'm seeing this. I didn't know this by looking at it visually
1:02:03too, so I will, I will, we will all go down with you on that ship if necessary. Okay. This is not
1:02:09where I wanted to be. You're at 80 points now Federico. Steven you're at 40 points.
1:02:17This is the final one. You have got your four incorrects. You have to get this
1:02:22correct. Now I'm gonna tell you right now, alright? Now I'm just gonna say this. I
1:02:27want the exact word. Yeah. Yeah. Alright I'm just saying this up front so
1:02:34everyone knows, you've got to give me the exact wording for this to be correct.
1:02:39Yeah, so this is problematic because then again, this is not my answer. It comes down
1:02:43to two things. I think it could be Wi-Fi or it could be wireless. The problem is that
1:02:51my instinct would go for Wi-Fi because it's what most people call it when they see this symbol.
1:03:00this symbol they go like oh that's wi-fi the issue is that i believe wi-fi is like the name of
1:03:10another consortium or alliance or organization whatever so like i am i have concerns
1:03:20about using the name wi-fi as like what they call it with the proprietary i mean most people
1:03:28would call it wi-fi. This is another like, like, this is like the peapod. Nobody's gonna call it
1:03:35a peapod. What say? Can you pass me the peapod, please? I mean, the, also the fact that it's blue
1:03:45shouldn't, I don't think blue is in the name with these symbols. They just have the name.
1:03:51Wi-Fi or... is there other options? Wi-Fi, wireless, wireless symbol? But they don't
1:03:59use the word symbol in these emoji names. Like they didn't call it "canda symbol".
1:04:06Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Wi-Fi is like a thing, like a product name or whatever.
1:04:14And wireless, I mean, it's not like...
1:04:16Uhhhhh...
1:04:18If I get this wrong...
1:04:19I gotta say, I had the idea to make this part of the quizzes during the ad break leading up to this.
1:04:26Wow.
1:04:27And I'm very happy I did it.
1:04:29I had to very quickly create a new entry in my spreadsheet and get the button ready.
1:04:34And I will say I'm proud of myself today. I've done good work today, I think.
1:04:38My answer is wireless.
1:04:40Damn it!
1:04:42What?!
1:04:44Federico, I thought you were gonna say wi-fi.
1:04:47So at the end of the Jeremy's AK included in the quizzies, Federico takes 170 points.
1:04:56Steven takes 40 points. If we now go to the total scoring, that puts Federico in the lead.
1:05:03530 points to Steven's 440 points. Gentlemen, thank you for playing the quizzies Jeremy's version.
1:05:12There you go, I found it. I found the name.
1:05:14There it is. Quizzies, Jeremy's version. We did it.
1:05:17- Well done, Federico.
1:05:18I think this is the best that you've done.
1:05:20There is a website for this, thejeremys.herokuapp.com.
1:05:25There'll be a link to that in the show notes.
1:05:27People can see how you've done in the past as well.
1:05:30- Yeah, last year, 50%.
1:05:33- About how many emoji?
1:05:34- 38.
1:05:35- Yeah, last year there were a lot.
1:05:37This is definitely a smaller set, it feels like.
1:05:39- Yeah, this was, do you remember the small set
1:05:41because of COVID, I think this is it.
1:05:43- Okay. - Mm.
1:05:44Supply chain is using emoji.
1:05:46- Oh no, that was the spring 2021 one, yeah.
1:05:49But I hope for more emoji in the future,
1:05:52but that was a darn good game today.
1:05:54- Great idea, Myke.
1:05:56- Do you wanna wrap up a couple of little things
1:05:58that are in 16.4 real quick?
1:05:59Because that's where this was from,
1:06:01and there were a few things I want to get your two opinion
1:06:04on these, 'cause there's some interesting stuff
1:06:06going on in 16.4, which I can't believe
1:06:09we're getting new features this close now to WWDC, right?
1:06:12Like it's kind of wild that we're doing,
1:06:14that that's happening.
1:06:16But we got web push notifications.
1:06:18So now apps that you add to your home screen,
1:06:23web apps that you add to your home screen
1:06:24can now send you push notifications.
1:06:26Can websites send you push notifications in the same way
1:06:29or does it have to be added to the app, like as an app?
1:06:33Do you know, either of you?
1:06:34- I think it needs to be added as an app
1:06:37then you can control it via focus modes as well. Yeah, it gets focus mode control. If you have those
1:06:43like sweet solution apps on your home screen, they can badge with notifications and third-party
1:06:49browsers can now add these web apps to home now as well. Which is kind of silly because a third-party
1:06:56browser adding PWA to the home screen, it's still going to be running off a web kit right now. Oh,
1:07:04Maybe. I mean, maybe they'll fix that.
1:07:07Exactly. Like maybe that's in preparation for, you know,
1:07:10it's a good point. Edge and Chrome and Firefox, they ship their own engines in June.
1:07:15Like this might be part of getting ready for that, right? Yeah. That makes sense.
1:07:18I've also seen speculation that this is Apple kind of hedging like, "Oh,
1:07:24if you don't want to be in the App Store, the web is just as good." You know,
1:07:28you can get notifications on the web now.
1:07:30It's funny. We're going back to that conversation.
1:07:33Yeah, it's what they said when the iPhone first came out.
1:07:38Oh yeah, that is kind of fun. I hadn't thought of it that way.
1:07:43How would you call it? A sweet approach? Sweet strategy?
1:07:47Sweet monopoly?
1:07:49Sweet setup?
1:07:50There was a...
1:07:51Sweet congressional avoidance. I think might be what we're looking for here.
1:07:59Sweet Europe.
1:08:00Apple podcasts is getting a bunch of features. So the channels is the thing that got introduced
1:08:06kind of as part of the Apple podcast subscriptions thing. Like it's a way that you would have
1:08:12the subscriptions you could pay for like a channel so you get like a bunch of shows in
1:08:15one subscription. But you can also have channels created in Apple podcasts without subscriptions.
1:08:20Relay FM has a channel. It's basically all the Relay FM shows. Channels will now appear
1:08:25in the library section as like a top level part of the navigation. So you can more easily
1:08:29find content from publishers you already enjoy, which I think is a nice addition.
1:08:32Good idea.
1:08:33Up next is adding the ability to resume episodes, start saved episodes, remove episodes you
1:08:39want to skip, and also includes episodes of shows you're not following in Apple Podcasts.
1:08:45Oh finally, yeah.
1:08:46This is good, this is good.
1:08:47Yeah, because so many times you find something, you start listening, but later it just disappears
1:08:51from up next.
1:08:52This is one of those things that when I read I was like, "Oh, it didn't already do that?
1:08:55Like, it feels like it should have been doing that."
1:08:58All Mastodon previews now appear in Messages. They work fast on that. Bravo to the Messages
1:09:04team on that one. Focus modes can control the always-on display.
1:09:09I was right about this months ago. This was a pick before your time, I think.
1:09:16Yeah, another of those. So this is now a focus filter, right? So you
1:09:19can, as part of when you're setting up a focus mode, either turn on or off the always-on
1:09:23on display.
1:09:24- Yep, yep.
1:09:25- Shortcuts gains the ability to do this as well.
1:09:28So you have always on display triggers and shortcuts
1:09:30along with the ability to enable or disable Stage Manager.
1:09:33- Yeah, but just that for Stage Manager.
1:09:37Yeah, it seems--
1:09:38- There's some more stuff, right, in Shortcuts Federico?
1:09:40- Yeah, it seems that Shortcuts,
1:09:42like the Shortcuts team is mostly focusing,
1:09:44and I mean, that was also true in 16 to an extent,
1:09:47but they are focusing on bringing settings.
1:09:50Just any setting that you can enable and disable
1:09:52from the settings app should also have
1:09:55related shortcuts action.
1:09:56There's more for setting the VPN.
1:09:59There's another for, what else did they add?
1:10:02There's another two, I mean, they added actions
1:10:05for like locking the screen, shutting down your device.
1:10:09In general, they've added a bug.
1:10:10- I can't believe they're letting you shut down
1:10:12your device for shortcuts.
1:10:12- There are some fun ideas there for automations
1:10:15for like iPads that run like in the home.
1:10:18- Also just for griefing your friends.
1:10:20(laughing)
1:10:21Oh yeah, or there, or there.
1:10:23You know, you create a shortcut
1:10:26that looks like the Facebook icon.
1:10:28Every time someone taps it,
1:10:30they turn off their phone.
1:10:32Or you put it, you tie it to like the tap back thing.
1:10:38So you tap the back of your phone the wrong way
1:10:40and then your phone shuts down.
1:10:41(laughing)
1:10:43My phone keeps turning off.
1:10:46Interesting.
1:10:47You could also do something like one of those shortcuts
1:10:49that you run when the police pulls you over,
1:10:52and you do a bunch of things and then shut down the phone.
1:10:56I could imagine some shortcuts that do that.
1:10:58There are still no actions on the iPad for managing Windows,
1:11:02so you can only just enable and disable Stage Manager.
1:11:05But the Find Windows action,
1:11:07that when I saw the Stage Manager action,
1:11:09I was like, oh yeah, I'm sure now they also brought over
1:11:11the Find Windows action from macOS,
1:11:13but no, still nowhere to be found.
1:11:17On iPad, I saw some new options for choosing the icon of a shortcut.
1:11:22So now when you go into the choose icon screen,
1:11:26you can now switch between different versions of the shortcut's icon
1:11:32and a custom icon.
1:11:35It's like you have a control to switch between two versions of an icon.
1:11:39I think it's pretty well done.
1:11:40- I'm sorry, I don't know what that, I don't follow what that means.
1:11:43Yeah, so for example, open a shortcut that you have on your phone.
1:11:47Yep.
1:11:48Are you on 16.4?
1:11:49No, I am.
1:11:51Okay, so open a shortcut and a shortcut that has at least a bunch of actions in it and
1:11:58go to the choose icon screen.
1:12:02On mine, but this is weird because it seems like it's only possible for some.
1:12:07Oh, I see what they have done.
1:12:09So for shortcuts that have one action only, you can now switch between a custom icon with
1:12:17a custom glyph or the shortcuts icon with the default shortcuts logo in different colors.
1:12:26When you say the default shortcuts icon, like the actual shortcut...
1:12:30The two squares.
1:12:31Yeah, it starts with that.
1:12:34Oh, okay.
1:12:35Yeah.
1:12:36Huh.
1:12:37This is kind of weird.
1:12:38I don't know.
1:12:39Why? I thought you were going to say maybe it included the icon of the app that's involved.
1:12:46Yeah, in this other shortcut, which is a single open URL action, it's a Safari action. When
1:12:53I go into the Choose icon screen, now it lets me choose between the Safari action or a custom
1:13:00icon.
1:13:01Oh, so you could...
1:13:02The Safari icon, sorry.
1:13:03It's just Safari?
1:13:04Or a custom icon. Just Safari.
1:13:06So I've got a shortcut that gives me a menu and it opens whatever Google Doc I choose.
1:13:11So I have one for each of my show notes and the URLs are Google Docs URL.
1:13:16So the iPhone opens them in Google and the Google Docs app, but it still gives me the
1:13:19Safari icon because it's a, that's fun.
1:13:22A URL URL.
1:13:23Uh, I've seen, I've seen other shark, other shortcuts in my library that, uh, they just
1:13:29start with the default shortcuts app icon.
1:13:33Yeah.
1:13:34Like this.
1:13:35and I'm sending you another image.
1:13:37Like, they start with this,
1:13:39and then you can actually change it.
1:13:41- Okay, so it's just, it is actually the shortcuts icon,
1:13:44but you can change the colors of it.
1:13:45It's letting you change the colors of it.
1:13:47- This is so weird.
1:13:48- That's cool, at least.
1:13:50So wait, is that a dynamically changing icon?
1:13:54They've, that's interesting. - No.
1:13:57No. - No?
1:13:58- But, and it's inconsistent,
1:13:59because this option appears sometimes,
1:14:03and sometimes it doesn't.
1:14:04I don't know.
1:14:05you're able to change the colors of the shortcuts icon like the app icon no oh
1:14:10it shows you the color picker but you can't do anything with it okay okay no
1:14:15okay no the homekit architecture upgrade is returned with 16.4 so get that one
1:14:23another go there it seems like it's time to phase out developer profile so when
1:14:29you want to if you're if you're in the developer program and you want to
1:14:32install iOS 17, let's say 16.4.17 or whatever.
1:14:37You have to go to the website, you download a profile,
1:14:41it's like a whole thing.
1:14:41Now they're just tying it to your Apple ID.
1:14:43If your Apple ID is opted in, you can just go into settings
1:14:47and be like, give me the beta, right?
1:14:49- Yeah, there's some interesting things here.
1:14:52A lot of developers will have an Apple ID
1:14:54specifically for development that they don't stay logged
1:14:58into on their devices.
1:15:00So I don't know if there's gonna be an option
1:15:02to add your developer ID like separately,
1:15:05like you can have a separate purchase Apple ID still,
1:15:08or how that'll work.
1:15:10I mean, what they're trying to do is keep people
1:15:12who aren't developers out of the developer beta.
1:15:14- Considering the public beta is like a week behind,
1:15:16like how much of a problem is it?
1:15:17Like if it's gonna cause problems really, is this worth it?
1:15:19Like the profile system is fine, but we'll see.
1:15:22It doesn't bother me, right?
1:15:24Like you guys are probably the same.
1:15:25My Apple ID is what I use for the developer betas.
1:15:30but you're right, I can imagine it being an issue
1:15:33if you're like your developer Apple ID
1:15:36is tied to your testing devices.
1:15:38But then maybe you don't need it.
1:15:41I don't know, we'll find out.
1:15:42- Yeah, I'm curious to follow this
1:15:44as we get into the next big beta cycle this summer.
1:15:48If you wanna find links to the stories we spoke about,
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1:15:55or you can go to the website, relay.fm/connected/438.
1:16:00In both places there are a couple of links I would draw your attention to.
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1:16:11The last couple of weeks we've been talking about Myke's newfound hobby of golf.
1:16:15So that's the thing he's doing.
1:16:16We've been talking about it in the pro show for a couple of weeks now.
1:16:20Those episodes, like I said, are also ad-free, which is cool.
1:16:24You can also submit feedback on the web.
1:16:26submit feedback link and button on the website. Please don't send us any more
1:16:31thigh measurements. Please don't. Unless you really want to. Unless you can beat...
1:16:35Well that's it, you've got to beat the thigh to beat, which is 56 centimeters. If you can't
1:16:39beat 56 centimeters, I don't want to see your thighs. But if you can, I want to see
1:16:44them. Someone clip that out and put it on the web. What he said.
1:16:49I'll stand by it. Want to see those thighs? Take it out of context, I don't care, I'll
1:16:54stand by it if your thighs are bigger than 56 centimetres I want to see them
1:16:58you're gonna see mail those directly to Myke don't put those go for it I'll still
1:17:02put them in the show don't you worry about it you can find us all online
1:17:07Federico is the editor-in-chief of max stories dot net and he is on Mastodon at
1:17:12Vitici at max stories dot net you can find Myke online he hosts a bunch of
1:17:17other shows here on relay FM he is the co-founder of cortex brand and he is on
1:17:24the Don at i-mic at mike.social.
1:17:28I get that right?
1:17:29I can't remember which way the i goes,
1:17:31if it's like in the handle or in the URL.
1:17:33- In the URL?
1:17:35No, it's mike.social and then i-mic.social.
1:17:37- So you can find Myke there.
1:17:39Myke also keyboard streams on a lot of Fridays.
1:17:42So check that out too, if that's your thing.
1:17:43You can find me on Mac Power Users here on Relay FM.
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1:18:03- Bye to get there to you.
1:18:04- Cheerio. - Bye, y'all.