Connected

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00:00:08 ◼   ► From relay.fm, this is Connected, episode 453. Today's show is brought to you by ExpressVPN,

00:00:15 ◼   ► CleanMyMac X, and Fast Growing Trees. I'm one of your hosts, Federico Vittucci, coming to you

00:00:20 ◼   ► directly from Apple Park in the Apple Podcasts studio, and it's my pleasure to introduce for this

00:00:27 ◼   ► very special episode, my friend that I see now after four years, Mr. Steven Hackett. Hello.

00:00:33 ◼   ► Hello, you weren't as tall as I remembered you being.

00:00:36 ◼   ► No, I'm taller.

00:00:37 ◼   ► He is taller because he's wearing big shoes.

00:00:39 ◼   ► No, no, I don't have heels. I told you the other day.

00:00:43 ◼   ► Hello, Steven.

00:00:45 ◼   ► Hello, buddy.

00:00:46 ◼   ► Hi.

00:00:47 ◼   ► And we are joined in between us, Mr. Mike Hurley.

00:00:50 ◼   ► Hold my hands, boys.

00:00:51 ◼   ► Why are they sweating?

00:00:53 ◼   ► Well, because we're doing a show right now. I get sweaty when we're doing a show.

00:00:56 ◼   ► I am uncomfortable with Federico's, like, energy.

00:01:00 ◼   ► Why?

00:01:00 ◼   ► I feel like he's up to something.

00:01:02 ◼   ► I don't like it.

00:01:03 ◼   ► There is an energy. There is an energy in this podcast space right now,

00:01:06 ◼   ► and it's coming from Federico. But we have things to do, right?

00:01:09 ◼   ► We do.

00:01:10 ◼   ► Okay.

00:01:10 ◼   ► We start a follow-up.

00:01:12 ◼   ► Please.

00:01:13 ◼   ► That's what we do.

00:01:14 ◼   ► Follow-up.

00:01:14 ◼   ► The most important follow-up is that we're together, and that's very nice.

00:01:17 ◼   ► Yes.

00:01:17 ◼   ► It's very good to see everybody.

00:01:19 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:01:20 ◼   ► I got Mike a gift that I gave him earlier.

00:01:22 ◼   ► Yep.

00:01:23 ◼   ► I saw him at the hotel.

00:01:24 ◼   ► Yep.

00:01:24 ◼   ► How is the-

00:01:26 ◼   ► It sucks.

00:01:27 ◼   ► Do you have a gift for me?

00:01:29 ◼   ► No. Do you remember? I don't know if it was last week.

00:01:31 ◼   ► That, like, replacement for the PopSocket, the Osnap thing.

00:01:34 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:01:34 ◼   ► So Stephen bought one of those and brought it for me.

00:01:36 ◼   ► It is maybe the flimsiest thing I've ever seen in my life.

00:01:39 ◼   ► It was a disaster.

00:01:40 ◼   ► I don't know how- this was recommended as something people use.

00:01:43 ◼   ► I would not want to hold my $1,000 phone with this thing,

00:01:47 ◼   ► because I'm convinced it will just shear straight off.

00:01:50 ◼   ► So, yes, that's not going to work for me.

00:01:51 ◼   ► Wait. So you've seen me after four years, and you've brought me nothing?

00:01:54 ◼   ► That is also actually a really good point.

00:01:55 ◼   ► Did you get him a gift?

00:01:57 ◼   ► It's for after the show.

00:01:58 ◼   ► Oh, hello.

00:01:58 ◼   ► Oh.

00:01:59 ◼   ► He's gonna give you a massage or something.

00:02:02 ◼   ► We're having dinner tonight.

00:02:04 ◼   ► All right, cool.

00:02:05 ◼   ► Dim's on Stephen.

00:02:06 ◼   ► We nailed it.

00:02:07 ◼   ► I got the company card. Let's go.

00:02:08 ◼   ► Let's do it.

00:02:09 ◼   ► Let's do it.

00:02:10 ◼   ► We do have bigger fish to fry?

00:02:13 ◼   ► We do.

00:02:13 ◼   ► All right.

00:02:14 ◼   ► We have some picks to score.

00:02:16 ◼   ► We will start the reading of the rules.

00:02:20 ◼   ► The Ricky's is a game connected hosts play before Apple keynotes at the beginning of a new year,

00:02:24 ◼   ► trying to predict future events.

00:02:27 ◼   ► It is made up of three rounds.

00:02:28 ◼   ► Each host makes two regular picks, followed by a risky pick.

00:02:32 ◼   ► There are two types of Ricky's annual Ricky's and keynote Ricky's.

00:02:37 ◼   ► The winner of the annual Ricky's is named the annual chairman.

00:02:40 ◼   ► This position is awarded every January.

00:02:43 ◼   ► The keynote Ricky's winner is named the keynote chairman.

00:02:46 ◼   ► This position is held until the next keynote.

00:02:49 ◼   ► That's the one we're playing today.

00:02:51 ◼   ► After the Ricky's, the host then play a game called the flexies.

00:02:54 ◼   ► These two games are separate, but related.

00:02:57 ◼   ► Please stand for the reading of the rules.

00:02:59 ◼   ► Correct regular picks are awarded one point.

00:03:11 ◼   ► The language used for regular picks must be finalized and agreed upon during recording,

00:03:16 ◼   ► and no partial points may be awarded.

00:03:18 ◼   ► Correct risky picks are worth two points,

00:03:21 ◼   ► but wrong ones will cause a point to be deducted from that host total.

00:03:25 ◼   ► Picks must have been approved as risky by the two other hosts before the start of the game.

00:03:30 ◼   ► A pick cannot be named risky if it has been previously rumored by the publications of record

00:03:35 ◼   ► nine to five Mac or Mac rumors.

00:03:37 ◼   ► Picks made for the keynote Ricky's cannot be reused by the host who made them for the next keynote.

00:03:43 ◼   ► The annual Ricky's have their own subset of rules.

00:03:47 ◼   ► Once a host chooses something as an annual pick, they cannot reuse it in that calendar year.

00:03:51 ◼   ► Additionally, picks may not be used in back to back annual Ricky's by the same host.

00:03:56 ◼   ► All hosts are allowed to reuse picks previously made by others.

00:04:00 ◼   ► Scoring is completed during recording and cannot be modified once an episode is complete.

00:04:05 ◼   ► In the event of a tie, dice by pCalc must be used in relay FM mode to pick a winner.

00:04:13 ◼   ► Jason Snell has a lifetime ban on flipping any coins in relation to the Ricky's.

00:04:17 ◼   ► Coin flips by Jason on other podcasts are allowed, but are frowned upon and subject to public shaming.

00:04:25 ◼   ► For keynote Ricky's, the scoring window starts when the event begins and closes

00:04:30 ◼   ► when the picks are scored.

00:04:31 ◼   ► Any information used in scoring must be publicly verifiable at the time of recording.

00:04:38 ◼   ► The order of picks is set by previous performance.

00:04:40 ◼   ► The winner of the previous associated game goes first.

00:04:44 ◼   ► The previous loser goes last.

00:04:46 ◼   ► Winners will be recognized during the closing ceremonies.

00:04:51 ◼   ► As a reminder, Mike is the current annual chairman and Federico is the current keynote chairman.

00:04:57 ◼   ► Past results can be seen at rickys.co and rickys.net.

00:05:01 ◼   ► These sites also have pages about managing your own score keeping at home.

00:05:06 ◼   ► You may be seated.

00:05:09 ◼   ► So we're going to start in round one.

00:05:11 ◼   ► That's where you begin in these things.

00:05:12 ◼   ► - Usually.

00:05:13 ◼   ► - You could do round robin and start with two.

00:05:15 ◼   ► - That's a different set of rules.

00:05:17 ◼   ► Federico, you are up first.

00:05:19 ◼   ► - Mm-hmm.

00:05:20 ◼   ► - Your first pick.

00:05:21 ◼   ► - All right.

00:05:22 ◼   ► So my first pick for the game that we all play.

00:05:25 ◼   ► - Do you forget the name?

00:05:26 ◼   ► - No, I ain't wrong.

00:05:28 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:05:28 ◼   ► You know this thing.

00:05:29 ◼   ► - Say it.

00:05:29 ◼   ► Prove that you know the name.

00:05:31 ◼   ► - What's the name of the game?

00:05:31 ◼   ► - I'm not going to say it.

00:05:32 ◼   ► - He doesn't know the name.

00:05:33 ◼   ► - Have you forgotten the name?

00:05:35 ◼   ► - No, I know that it's called the Ricky's.

00:05:38 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:05:40 ◼   ► - I just wanted to create an energy of mystery.

00:05:41 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:05:44 ◼   ► Oh, I've missed doing this.

00:05:48 ◼   ► Oh, I've missed this.

00:05:49 ◼   ► - So it's fine.

00:05:51 ◼   ► - No, this is good.

00:05:52 ◼   ► No, that was a good one.

00:05:53 ◼   ► - You're round one pick.

00:05:54 ◼   ► - I get it.

00:05:55 ◼   ► You're a fan.

00:05:55 ◼   ► - I'm a big fan.

00:05:56 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:05:56 ◼   ► - Wow.

00:05:57 ◼   ► - So I said the health app gets mood tracking and an iPad version.

00:06:02 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:06:03 ◼   ► - Don't we have that thing?

00:06:04 ◼   ► - I forgot to pack it.

00:06:05 ◼   ► - Oh, come on.

00:06:07 ◼   ► - Ding.

00:06:08 ◼   ► - But there's no harmonizing.

00:06:09 ◼   ► - Ding.

00:06:11 ◼   ► - There are people in this room right now and they have no idea what is going on.

00:06:18 ◼   ► - We apologize.

00:06:19 ◼   ► - I am sorry.

00:06:20 ◼   ► - We promise people listen to our show.

00:06:22 ◼   ► - So in the future ones, we will harmonize and then you can ding.

00:06:25 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:06:25 ◼   ► - Anyway, I said the health app gets mood tracking and an iPad version.

00:06:30 ◼   ► And both of those things came true.

00:06:32 ◼   ► I believe they first showed the iPad version.

00:06:35 ◼   ► So health running on the iPad, which is basically what we were expecting.

00:06:39 ◼   ► Like there's a sidebar, there's a grid of the different data points, charts, and all

00:06:43 ◼   ► of that.

00:06:43 ◼   ► And then later as part of the mental health features, which by the way, I'm really happy

00:06:47 ◼   ► to see and to see Apple on, you know, prime time, keynote time saying mental health is

00:06:52 ◼   ► just as important.

00:06:52 ◼   ► - They spent a long time on that.

00:06:53 ◼   ► - They spent a long time on that.

00:06:56 ◼   ► Super happy to see it.

00:06:57 ◼   ► But they showed off this new way of sort of tracking your emotions and logging your mood

00:07:02 ◼   ► and how you're feeling, what you're feeling.

00:07:04 ◼   ► That was great.

00:07:05 ◼   ► And for this reason, I get a point.

00:07:07 ◼   ► - So they showed that as part of the Apple Watch part.

00:07:10 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:07:10 ◼   ► - But it is one of those things.

00:07:11 ◼   ► I'm not saying it's one of those things where it is everywhere.

00:07:14 ◼   ► It's like, you know how they're like, it's on everything, but they just show it where

00:07:17 ◼   ► it's most relevant.

00:07:18 ◼   ► But they should...

00:07:19 ◼   ► And I like the way it looked on the Apple Watch.

00:07:20 ◼   ► I think it made sense.

00:07:21 ◼   ► Visually, it's like you would scroll through the different emotions and moods and put them

00:07:27 ◼   ► in.

00:07:27 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:07:28 ◼   ► I thought it was great.

00:07:28 ◼   ► I mean, depression, anxiety are things a lot of people deal with.

00:07:31 ◼   ► I definitely have them in my past and sometimes present, depending on how long that countdown

00:07:37 ◼   ► timer goes across the room, make it worse.

00:07:39 ◼   ► But I think they're handling all that as you would expect.

00:07:43 ◼   ► Apple handles all this really well.

00:07:45 ◼   ► And I think the UI is very approachable.

00:07:47 ◼   ► Like you could do this, you can be very comfortable with it.

00:07:50 ◼   ► I was super glad to see you get this point because I think we've talked for years about

00:07:54 ◼   ► mental health needing to be an aspect to these products.

00:07:59 ◼   ► I'm glad they've done it.

00:08:00 ◼   ► - Yeah, I think it's like the meditation app is part of it and Breathe is part of it.

00:08:04 ◼   ► But now it's like, this is like a full-on thing.

00:08:07 ◼   ► Like I don't remember the names, but there's like the survey quiz of things that you can

00:08:10 ◼   ► take, which help assess kind of depression, anxiety, and stress levels, which is more

00:08:15 ◼   ► than just the mood tracking.

00:08:16 ◼   ► So it was like a twofer.

00:08:18 ◼   ► Shall I just do mine?

00:08:18 ◼   ► Because before we go to talk about it, right?

00:08:20 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:08:21 ◼   ► - So my round one pick was that the headset is unveiled.

00:08:24 ◼   ► - No, this is not a point.

00:08:25 ◼   ► I didn't see a headset.

00:08:26 ◼   ► What's a headset?

00:08:27 ◼   ► - Thank you.

00:08:30 ◼   ► - It's not called a headset.

00:08:32 ◼   ► - But did you know what it was called then?

00:08:34 ◼   ► - Yes.

00:08:34 ◼   ► - You knew it was called Apple Vision Pro?

00:08:38 ◼   ► - It was gonna be called Apple Vision Pro.

00:08:39 ◼   ► - If you've known for months, then potentially that invalidates.

00:08:42 ◼   ► - I helped the decision-making.

00:08:44 ◼   ► - That's really good.

00:08:44 ◼   ► Is anyone gonna burst out of a closet and like stop you from saying what you're saying?

00:08:48 ◼   ► - No, no, no, no.

00:08:49 ◼   ► I'm all clear.

00:08:50 ◼   ► - Let's just stop with this a second.

00:08:51 ◼   ► You actually tried it today.

00:08:52 ◼   ► - Yes.

00:08:53 ◼   ► - And I don't think we have the time today to go through it all.

00:08:59 ◼   ► But like, can you give us some top line?

00:09:01 ◼   ► - I posted this on Mastodon.

00:09:05 ◼   ► It is, generally speaking, the most mind-blowing moment of my 14-year career.

00:09:12 ◼   ► I have never felt using a technology product what I experienced today before.

00:09:19 ◼   ► Like, it's hard to describe until you try it.

00:09:23 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:09:23 ◼   ► - And it was a pretty self-contained demo.

00:09:27 ◼   ► 30 minutes, they take you through this bunch of features.

00:09:30 ◼   ► But it's so different from any other VR headset.

00:09:36 ◼   ► It's so different, obviously, from trying ARKit on your phone, right?

00:09:42 ◼   ► It kind of hits you in a way.

00:09:46 ◼   ► And I don't know, speaking for me, it hit me

00:09:49 ◼   ► when I tried the immersive video stuff that they show off and the spatial photos and video.

00:09:55 ◼   ► It makes you...

00:09:58 ◼   ► Maybe this is kind of a scary thought, but it made me feel like really good.

00:10:05 ◼   ► Anyway, it made me feel...

00:10:09 ◼   ► It felt nice being in there.

00:10:12 ◼   ► - What does that mean?

00:10:13 ◼   ► - Like I didn't want to take it off.

00:10:16 ◼   ► - No, but also they want...

00:10:18 ◼   ► - This is what we're getting.

00:10:19 ◼   ► It's like sci-fi movies.

00:10:20 ◼   ► They weren't your memories, but you still liked them.

00:10:23 ◼   ► So there is that idea of like...

00:10:26 ◼   ► Because that's the whole risk with this stuff, right?

00:10:27 ◼   ► - Yep.

00:10:28 ◼   ► - It's the whole metaverse thing.

00:10:30 ◼   ► - Yep.

00:10:30 ◼   ► - Like, do you create a world that's not too nice to live in?

00:10:35 ◼   ► - Get out.

00:10:35 ◼   ► - You said you named it.

00:10:37 ◼   ► When it comes to crimes currently in this episode, you are the highest crime level.

00:10:41 ◼   ► - Yeah, that's why I'm saying get out.

00:10:42 ◼   ► - You did it?

00:10:42 ◼   ► - Yes.

00:10:43 ◼   ► - So I feel like that is something to contend with,

00:10:48 ◼   ► and we will be talking about that for a long time of like...

00:10:51 ◼   ► How...

00:10:53 ◼   ► - How to balance all of that.

00:10:55 ◼   ► - Yes.

00:10:56 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:10:56 ◼   ► - And also, is it bad?

00:11:00 ◼   ► Right?

00:11:01 ◼   ► Because throughout history of like, oh, the kid's reading too many books,

00:11:06 ◼   ► the kid's watching too much TV, right?

00:11:08 ◼   ► But like we've, as times moved on, it's like, yeah, but that's fine though.

00:11:11 ◼   ► - But to be fair, what's also impressive about it is that it always defaults,

00:11:16 ◼   ► and it always goes back to showing the world around you.

00:11:20 ◼   ► - It's an AR first device.

00:11:21 ◼   ► - It's an AR first device, and you can see that all throughout the experience.

00:11:25 ◼   ► It always goes back to making you present in the room, in the space, and censoring you.

00:11:33 ◼   ► - And censoring you.

00:11:33 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:11:33 ◼   ► - And when somebody starts talking to you, you can see them right away.

00:11:38 ◼   ► It's really incredible.

00:11:40 ◼   ► And I do believe that once this thing ships next year, it'll be this moment in time where...

00:11:48 ◼   ► And hopefully, if you forget a demo at some point, once you try it,

00:11:55 ◼   ► I'm 100% convinced that you will think that there's a moment before this and after this.

00:12:00 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:12:01 ◼   ► Well, my moment after this is after this.

00:12:03 ◼   ► - Well...

00:12:03 ◼   ► - I'm going to try it literally after this.

00:12:06 ◼   ► So my before moment is now, right now.

00:12:09 ◼   ► - Right now.

00:12:10 ◼   ► - My after moment is after this.

00:12:12 ◼   ► - Your pre-vision.

00:12:12 ◼   ► - Yes, my pre-vision.

00:12:15 ◼   ► - Mic pre-vision.

00:12:16 ◼   ► - I like it.

00:12:16 ◼   ► - All right.

00:12:18 ◼   ► So anyway, you get a point.

00:12:19 ◼   ► - Oh, thank you.

00:12:20 ◼   ► - Yes.

00:12:21 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:12:21 ◼   ► - Yes.

00:12:21 ◼   ► - Cool.

00:12:22 ◼   ► My round one pick, Apple will announce a 15-inch MacBook Air.

00:12:27 ◼   ► - You want to hum and you hum and all, ding?

00:12:30 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:12:30 ◼   ► - Hum.

00:12:31 ◼   ► - Ding.

00:12:32 ◼   ► - What are we doing?

00:12:34 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:12:35 ◼   ► - I've played around with one of these.

00:12:38 ◼   ► - Yeah, how is it?

00:12:39 ◼   ► - It is a bigger MacBook Air.

00:12:42 ◼   ► Looks like a MacBook Pro, but it doesn't have the speakers, which makes it look strange

00:12:46 ◼   ► when it's open because it's like you think it's one thing, but it isn't.

00:12:50 ◼   ► You know, like just the visual language of it.

00:12:52 ◼   ► - You could add your own speaker holes later, I'm sure.

00:12:54 ◼   ► - Very carefully, you could.

00:12:55 ◼   ► But the thing that struck me the most is how light it is for a 15-inch laptop.

00:13:01 ◼   ► - So it really, I've been curious about this because I use a 14-inch MacBook Pro, I've

00:13:05 ◼   ► had the M2 Air, and I kind of thought like, well, is it going to kind of be in between?

00:13:10 ◼   ► But talking to you and other people who have seen it, it really seems like it is really

00:13:14 ◼   ► just a slightly larger Air.

00:13:16 ◼   ► - Mm-hmm.

00:13:16 ◼   ► - And that's great because the M2 Air, I mean, you're...

00:13:18 ◼   ► - They didn't even give it a new chip.

00:13:20 ◼   ► - Yeah, you have one in your lap, it's the perfect laptop.

00:13:22 ◼   ► The M2 Air is gold stars all the way down.

00:13:25 ◼   ► - Yeah, and I feel like that the 15 is just like a bit more, right?

00:13:30 ◼   ► I think it is more for the person who, where the laptop is their main device.

00:13:34 ◼   ► Like, I remember back to like when me and Idina first started dating, she was in a flat-sharing

00:13:39 ◼   ► situation, so she just had like a small room in a place in London.

00:13:42 ◼   ► And when we would watch shows, we'd just watch them on a laptop, she didn't have a TV.

00:13:46 ◼   ► And the common space wasn't somewhere that we would watch TV because there were like

00:13:49 ◼   ► three people that lived there.

00:13:50 ◼   ► - Right.

00:13:51 ◼   ► - And so it felt like, well, a bigger laptop in that scenario just means we have a bigger

00:13:55 ◼   ► screen to watch movies on or whatever.

00:13:57 ◼   ► It's like I think back to those kinds of things.

00:13:59 ◼   ► - Yeah, and that's how a lot, I mean, a lot of people, their notebook is their only computer.

00:14:03 ◼   ► They got a notebook and a phone.

00:14:04 ◼   ► - And potentially their only screen is where they watch their TV shows.

00:14:07 ◼   ► - That's how we were, I mean, for years.

00:14:09 ◼   ► - Yeah, I think we've all had that time in our lives, right?

00:14:11 ◼   ► - Do you have a TV now?

00:14:12 ◼   ► - This was before we had a home together when we were just dating.

00:14:16 ◼   ► - When Mike was on the streets.

00:14:18 ◼   ► - When we were in our dating part of our relationship.

00:14:20 ◼   ► I know that for both of you, it was a very long time ago, the dating part.

00:14:25 ◼   ► - It's true.

00:14:25 ◼   ► - It's 10 years for me and Idina to see it this December.

00:14:28 ◼   ► - My 16th wedding anniversary was three days ago.

00:14:31 ◼   ► I'm very old.

00:14:32 ◼   ► - And then how long were you dating before that?

00:14:34 ◼   ► - We dated for five and a half years.

00:14:37 ◼   ► - That's like 21 years?

00:14:39 ◼   ► - Yeah, our relationship can drink.

00:14:40 ◼   ► - Oh, that's so long though.

00:14:41 ◼   ► - She kept up with you for 21 years?

00:14:45 ◼   ► - Your relationship is old enough to drink.

00:14:47 ◼   ► - She didn't, I already made that joke.

00:14:49 ◼   ► She didn't know about the weird mat collecting until we were married.

00:14:53 ◼   ► - You should have been upfront about that.

00:14:54 ◼   ► - You should have been upfront about that.

00:14:55 ◼   ► It's like a catfish situation.

00:14:56 ◼   ► - No, it was like, oh, you know, I study a journalist.

00:14:59 ◼   ► - I'm gonna be a journalist.

00:15:02 ◼   ► - I'm gonna be a reporter.

00:15:04 ◼   ► - But actually I just have a room with a bunch of old computers in it.

00:15:09 ◼   ► What a letdown.

00:15:10 ◼   ► This is unnecessary, really.

00:15:16 ◼   ► Do you see what I put up with?

00:15:18 ◼   ► Do you see?

00:15:18 ◼   ► Dear listener, people in this room, they harass me.

00:15:21 ◼   ► - No, this is not.

00:15:23 ◼   ► - I'm your elder.

00:15:24 ◼   ► - So you are finally admitting to being an old guy.

00:15:28 ◼   ► - You're older than you.

00:15:29 ◼   ► - You're the older, not elder.

00:15:31 ◼   ► - Are you older or older?

00:15:32 ◼   ► - Round two.

00:15:33 ◼   ► Federico, you're up.

00:15:35 ◼   ► - I said Apple introduces a brand new journaling app.

00:15:39 ◼   ► - No, this didn't change around.

00:15:43 ◼   ► It's always you.

00:15:44 ◼   ► - It's very confusing.

00:15:45 ◼   ► - Anyway, yeah.

00:15:46 ◼   ► So, oh, also there was some non-graded details.

00:15:50 ◼   ► - Which you nailed.

00:15:52 ◼   ► - Which I nailed, location features for friends, ability to take notes and attach images,

00:15:57 ◼   ► maybe integration with music, question mark.

00:16:00 ◼   ► - So I think Jason was telling me about this.

00:16:03 ◼   ► The friends stuff isn't based on location like we thought.

00:16:07 ◼   ► - Yeah, it's not.

00:16:08 ◼   ► - It's based on other pieces of information.

00:16:09 ◼   ► - We were in the briefing together when he asked.

00:16:10 ◼   ► - Oh, really?

00:16:11 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:16:11 ◼   ► - And so you can maybe correct me if I'm wrong, but what he was telling me is it's based on

00:16:15 ◼   ► things like text messages and calls and photos, not like Find My, which was what the original

00:16:20 ◼   ► owner suggested.

00:16:22 ◼   ► - Yeah, it doesn't have integration with people, but not how we were expecting it to be.

00:16:27 ◼   ► But yeah, so journal, which is not in the, so I have iOS 17 on this form.

00:16:31 ◼   ► - Of course you do.

00:16:32 ◼   ► - But, right.

00:16:33 ◼   ► But it's not here, journal, and it's coming later this year.

00:16:38 ◼   ► So I'm getting the free form vibe for it.

00:16:41 ◼   ► It's gonna be a couple of months later, maybe.

00:16:43 ◼   ► - Which is a shame because it's actually the thing I'm most excited about.

00:16:46 ◼   ► Second thing I'm second most excited about on iOS 17 is the journal.

00:16:50 ◼   ► - What's the first?

00:16:50 ◼   ► - What's the first?

00:16:51 ◼   ► - Emoji stickers as tap backs.

00:16:52 ◼   ► - Oh, he's gonna be insufferable.

00:16:54 ◼   ► - Oh my God.

00:16:55 ◼   ► - But it's perfect, right?

00:16:56 ◼   ► - Well, why not?

00:16:56 ◼   ► - Who doesn't want that?

00:16:57 ◼   ► I'm just gonna do tap back.

00:16:57 ◼   ► - Let me just text Craig real quick and ask him to pull it.

00:17:00 ◼   ► - Oh, yeah, look at this.

00:17:00 ◼   ► Why is he doing this?

00:17:01 ◼   ► - He's gonna, hey bud.

00:17:02 ◼   ► - He keeps picking.

00:17:02 ◼   ► He's been in this room too long.

00:17:04 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:17:04 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:17:04 ◼   ► - I think that's the problem.

00:17:05 ◼   ► - I've been here too long.

00:17:06 ◼   ► I now work here.

00:17:07 ◼   ► - Oh, congratulations.

00:17:09 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:17:09 ◼   ► - That's really good.

00:17:10 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:17:11 ◼   ► This is my team.

00:17:12 ◼   ► - Oh.

00:17:12 ◼   ► - Are they all looking at you now?

00:17:15 ◼   ► - Is John still here?

00:17:15 ◼   ► - Hey, John.

00:17:16 ◼   ► - John, come get your boy, John.

00:17:18 ◼   ► - Oh.

00:17:19 ◼   ► - That is gonna be interesting to see how much developers can sort of donate

00:17:26 ◼   ► moments or suggestions to journal because I saw that from the Apple integration,

00:17:33 ◼   ► you really get like this gallery of like activities that you can pick and say,

00:17:37 ◼   ► yeah, I wanna add this to my journal.

00:17:39 ◼   ► I'm not sure if the third-party integration will be as visually rich as that,

00:17:45 ◼   ► or if it'd be like a more simple thing, but regardless, I think it's gonna be

00:17:49 ◼   ► really fun to have.

00:17:50 ◼   ► Imagine like having your exercise app or a third-party podcast player,

00:17:55 ◼   ► like all of that sort of going into journal, which is why I think third-party journaling

00:18:00 ◼   ► apps will have real struggle in terms of matching this kind of integrations.

00:18:07 ◼   ► - Hmm.

00:18:07 ◼   ► - I'm interested to see how it works, like things going in and the potential stuff

00:18:14 ◼   ► going out, but I like it.

00:18:15 ◼   ► - I kind of view it, and we'll see how it plays out, but in my mind, it's kind of like

00:18:19 ◼   ► the notes extension, right?

00:18:20 ◼   ► You can send stuff to notes.

00:18:22 ◼   ► I know Mike and I, at least, we each keep sort of a running log of like when

00:18:27 ◼   ► amazing things have happened in our career or in life, right?

00:18:30 ◼   ► Someone at night says, "We're very sad people and we need affirmation."

00:18:33 ◼   ► And we've just saved those things over the years.

00:18:36 ◼   ► Like, "Yeah, it's like, oh, this is cool Macedon thing.

00:18:38 ◼   ► Just send it over here."

00:18:39 ◼   ► Like, I hope that it's sort of that level of integration where it's not a big song

00:18:45 ◼   ► and dance every time.

00:18:46 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:18:46 ◼   ► - Up next.

00:18:47 ◼   ► - WatchOS 10 gets widgets.

00:18:49 ◼   ► - Hmm.

00:18:50 ◼   ► - Hmm.

00:18:51 ◼   ► - Ding.

00:18:52 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:18:53 ◼   ► That was my pick, is that there will be widgets as part of WatchOS.

00:18:58 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:18:58 ◼   ► - It was something that we were gonna see added, and it's not necessarily the way I expected,

00:19:05 ◼   ► but I like it, right?

00:19:07 ◼   ► So there are...

00:19:08 ◼   ► I was kind of imagining more, more like glances, like that you would swipe up and see the widgets.

00:19:16 ◼   ► - Same.

00:19:16 ◼   ► - But really it's like they're doing it in a different way where like you can do kind

00:19:22 ◼   ► of like the scroll up and the widgets will appear.

00:19:25 ◼   ► - It's not super dissimilar from the way the Siri watch faces laid out.

00:19:29 ◼   ► I think it's better.

00:19:30 ◼   ► - It looks very visually reminiscent of that.

00:19:32 ◼   ► - And my favorite thing about it is that you can have a widget with complications inside of it.

00:19:37 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:19:38 ◼   ► - Because some of my...

00:19:38 ◼   ► - It's the widget widget.

00:19:39 ◼   ► - Yeah, because some of my favorite watch faces I don't use very often because they don't have

00:19:44 ◼   ► enough complication slots.

00:19:45 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:19:46 ◼   ► - Because I'm a big info boy, I wanna know what's going on.

00:19:48 ◼   ► And I'm very excited to see how that pans out.

00:19:52 ◼   ► And I think it's interesting that it's done by app intent.

00:19:55 ◼   ► So something like your weather app can sort of bubble up to the top when something's going on.

00:19:59 ◼   ► And if you're following a sports game, maybe that's at the top.

00:20:02 ◼   ► I'm excited to see how that plays out.

00:20:04 ◼   ► And I think it's an opportunity.

00:20:05 ◼   ► We had the same thing with widgets on the phone a couple of years ago where app developers

00:20:11 ◼   ► can surface their apps beyond just being kind of in jail behind their icon, right?

00:20:17 ◼   ► And so these apps can bring information to me throughout the day.

00:20:20 ◼   ► I'm super excited about it.

00:20:23 ◼   ► And I'm glad they went this route as opposed to like a today view or something with kind

00:20:27 ◼   ► of widgets off to the side somewhere.

00:20:29 ◼   ► - I think I'm not sure about, I know you can pin some, but like I just wanna see realistically

00:20:33 ◼   ► how am I gonna want stuff moving around all the time like in like flow.

00:20:40 ◼   ► - Sure.

00:20:40 ◼   ► - Like if I, do I really wanna know what the weather's like right now even though the watch

00:20:43 ◼   ► one sits on?

00:20:43 ◼   ► - I do, always.

00:20:44 ◼   ► - I know you do, you're a big weather boy.

00:20:46 ◼   ► But you know, so it's interesting, but I like that they added it.

00:20:49 ◼   ► Widgets are everywhere now.

00:20:50 ◼   ► - Everywhere.

00:20:51 ◼   ► - And so, but, and I think that this is good for watchOS 10, but I will say it was, I think

00:20:56 ◼   ► less of a redesign for watchOS 10 than I was maybe thinking it might be, but there was still

00:21:00 ◼   ► a lot there.

00:21:00 ◼   ► They've also done like the kind of complication like design inside of apps, which is nice too.

00:21:06 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:21:06 ◼   ► - So I'm intrigued to see how it's gonna.

00:21:08 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:21:10 ◼   ► - Go on a panel.

00:21:10 ◼   ► - Something I talked about on Mac power users is that I wanted watchOS to take better advantage

00:21:16 ◼   ► of the ultra screen, right?

00:21:18 ◼   ► Like this big, beautiful screen.

00:21:19 ◼   ► And even the regular watches have gotten bigger over time.

00:21:21 ◼   ► And this new design language pushing everything to the edge, there's a lot more color everywhere.

00:21:25 ◼   ► I think this is gonna feel much more vibrant and modern.

00:21:28 ◼   ► You know, when watchOS started, you had big bezels.

00:21:32 ◼   ► It was really important to keep power down.

00:21:33 ◼   ► So everything was black on the OLED screen.

00:21:35 ◼   ► And now we're at a point where we have the battery life and the power to do these things

00:21:39 ◼   ► that are more visually interesting.

00:21:41 ◼   ► So yeah, it's not a complete overhaul, but what they've shown so far, I think is really

00:21:45 ◼   ► attractive looking.

00:21:47 ◼   ► And it's the first year I've ever been tempted to do a watchOS beta.

00:21:50 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:21:50 ◼   ► - I'm afraid of it.

00:21:51 ◼   ► - Oh boy.

00:21:52 ◼   ► - But yeah, they do it.

00:21:53 ◼   ► - Oh boy.

00:21:54 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:21:55 ◼   ► All right.

00:21:55 ◼   ► Your round two pick.

00:21:57 ◼   ► - My round two pick.

00:21:58 ◼   ► The phrase, "One more thing will be used before the headset is announced."

00:22:02 ◼   ► Ding.

00:22:04 ◼   ► - Yeah, you were correct.

00:22:06 ◼   ► And I was saying this to Steven earlier, like when we're watching it in the large audience

00:22:12 ◼   ► that we were in, it was feeling like it was building to a moment.

00:22:16 ◼   ► Like the pacing of the keynote was very good in general as fast, but that kind of just

00:22:23 ◼   ► before the Vision Pro, I'm really struggling to get that name right.

00:22:28 ◼   ► But like just before that was announced, it felt like there was like a tension building.

00:22:34 ◼   ► - I had it just by myself in my office.

00:22:36 ◼   ► - So that was definitely a thing that was built.

00:22:39 ◼   ► - I was like, "Oh, it's coming."

00:22:40 ◼   ► The pacing of it, it's like, "We're going to go back to Tim."

00:22:44 ◼   ► And when he was in the Steve Jobs Theater, it's like, "Oh boy, it's coming."

00:22:48 ◼   ► You know, that space feels reserved.

00:22:51 ◼   ► And it's also where he announced 5G with the Verizon guy.

00:22:54 ◼   ► But normally it's reserved for like these big moments.

00:22:56 ◼   ► - In this age.

00:22:57 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:22:58 ◼   ► - Yeah, it's a phrase we've often used at Apple.

00:23:00 ◼   ► You know, my predecessors.

00:23:02 ◼   ► - This is his thing for the day.

00:23:04 ◼   ► - There's such a deep history.

00:23:05 ◼   ► - Your predecessors.

00:23:06 ◼   ► - Are you running a fever?

00:23:07 ◼   ► What is wrong with you?

00:23:08 ◼   ► - Hey, have you ever wondered what this pocket, this tiny pocket in jeans is for?

00:23:12 ◼   ► - Oh, it's given an iPod Nano joke.

00:23:14 ◼   ► - It is an iPod Nano joke.

00:23:15 ◼   ► - Have you ever wondered what this pocket is for?

00:23:16 ◼   ► - No.

00:23:17 ◼   ► - Yeah, I wanted to put something in here today, but like it doesn't fit in there.

00:23:22 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:23:23 ◼   ► - And so I had to put it in the other pocket.

00:23:25 ◼   ► - Is this going somewhere?

00:23:26 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:23:27 ◼   ► - I'm so afraid.

00:23:28 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:23:28 ◼   ► - What is it?

00:23:29 ◼   ► - So I really wanted to put it in here for the show of it.

00:23:31 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:23:32 ◼   ► - I have an iPod.

00:23:33 ◼   ► I bought an iPod.

00:23:36 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:23:36 ◼   ► - But it's a phone.

00:23:37 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:23:38 ◼   ► - So...

00:23:38 ◼   ► - Are you getting it yet?

00:23:39 ◼   ► - This is what I've been using to listen to music.

00:23:42 ◼   ► - Oh yeah, I knew about this.

00:23:43 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:23:44 ◼   ► - But I wanted to show it to you in person and the audience didn't.

00:23:47 ◼   ► - Yeah, so this is a iPhone 12 mini?

00:23:50 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:23:50 ◼   ► - This is an iPhone 12 mini.

00:23:52 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:23:52 ◼   ► - Where I put an iPod wallpaper on.

00:23:54 ◼   ► - Uh-huh.

00:23:55 ◼   ► - And I use it as my music player now.

00:23:57 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:23:58 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:23:58 ◼   ► - And I just think it's a cool thing that I've done.

00:24:00 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:24:01 ◼   ► - And I'm very proud of it.

00:24:02 ◼   ► - So you have day phone, night phone is what you've done.

00:24:05 ◼   ► - Yes.

00:24:06 ◼   ► - I've been using two phones for like two months at this point.

00:24:10 ◼   ► - As Apple executives often do.

00:24:11 ◼   ► - Right.

00:24:11 ◼   ► - And we've been running iOS 17 for a while on the phone.

00:24:17 ◼   ► - You have to stop.

00:24:18 ◼   ► - You have to stop this.

00:24:19 ◼   ► - No, why?

00:24:20 ◼   ► I don't see why.

00:24:22 ◼   ► - What does the settings notification say?

00:24:24 ◼   ► - It says settings notification Sunday at 3.39 AM.

00:24:28 ◼   ► You've got to deal with the notifications on this second phone.

00:24:30 ◼   ► - No notifications, I'm a busy man.

00:24:31 ◼   ► - Okay, so I'm holding a red iPhone mini in my hands as a iPod wallpaper.

00:24:37 ◼   ► So you use this to listen to music now?

00:24:38 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:24:39 ◼   ► - That is my iPod.

00:24:40 ◼   ► And you can see the thing that I've done here, it's all music based.

00:24:46 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:24:47 ◼   ► - So the home screen, it's just a bunch of widgets for music and music apps.

00:24:52 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:24:54 ◼   ► - Yeah, don't you like it?

00:24:56 ◼   ► - It looks really nice.

00:24:57 ◼   ► - I do like it.

00:24:57 ◼   ► - Yeah, it's mine.

00:24:58 ◼   ► - I do really like, so can I ask you?

00:25:00 ◼   ► - Yes.

00:25:01 ◼   ► - Do you, is you actually only listen to music at home on that phone now?

00:25:05 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:25:06 ◼   ► - That is a very interesting thing to do.

00:25:08 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:25:08 ◼   ► - Yeah, because you have like a expensive DAC.

00:25:10 ◼   ► - What happened to the Android thing?

00:25:11 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:25:11 ◼   ► - And Android things and a PC, is all that gone?

00:25:14 ◼   ► - Well, no, but...

00:25:15 ◼   ► - There it is.

00:25:16 ◼   ► - What is?

00:25:18 ◼   ► - That's nothing.

00:25:19 ◼   ► - What?

00:25:20 ◼   ► - He's saying that you're going to just go back to your Android.

00:25:22 ◼   ► - So you have day phone, night phone.

00:25:23 ◼   ► - Yes.

00:25:24 ◼   ► - You also have day music set up, night music set up.

00:25:26 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:25:26 ◼   ► - Yes.

00:25:27 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:25:27 ◼   ► - Well, yeah, anyway.

00:25:29 ◼   ► - They're asking in the Discord, do you have a podcast iPhone now as well?

00:25:32 ◼   ► - No, I don't.

00:25:33 ◼   ► - That's next though, right?

00:25:34 ◼   ► - Well, no, because like, for example, when I was on the plane on the way here,

00:25:38 ◼   ► I needed to keep an eye on my iPhone's battery because I forgot to pack my good battery in the

00:25:44 ◼   ► carry-on bag.

00:25:46 ◼   ► And so instead I sort of offloaded the music playback to the iPod.

00:25:49 ◼   ► So I had Apple Music all downloaded, you know, a bunch of playlists, a bunch of albums,

00:25:54 ◼   ► and instead of wasting the battery of the main phone, I just used the music phone.

00:25:58 ◼   ► - So what you're saying is day phone, night phone, overall, good idea.

00:26:03 ◼   ► - I think so.

00:26:04 ◼   ► - He was ahead of his time.

00:26:06 ◼   ► - I think that guy was onto something.

00:26:07 ◼   ► - He was ahead of his time.

00:26:08 ◼   ► - Yes.

00:26:09 ◼   ► - I feel bad for him really, in hindsight.

00:26:12 ◼   ► - At the end of round two, we are fully tied.

00:26:15 ◼   ► - Oh, yeah.

00:26:16 ◼   ► - Federico has two points, Michael has two points, I have two points.

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00:27:51 ◼   ► We now move into the risky picks round.

00:27:54 ◼   ► This is where everything can change.

00:27:56 ◼   ► Federico, what was your risky pick?

00:27:59 ◼   ► I said the...

00:28:01 ◼   ► Oh boy, I'm really sad.

00:28:02 ◼   ► Read the whole thing.

00:28:03 ◼   ► The next version of iPadOS will introduce a brand new audio routing system

00:28:10 ◼   ► with support for selecting different input sources similar to macOS.

00:28:15 ◼   ► This feature will finally allow podcasters like me to record local audio

00:28:20 ◼   ► while also being on a FaceTime or Zoom call.

00:28:22 ◼   ► Parenthesis, assuming apps add support for it.

00:28:26 ◼   ► So...

00:28:28 ◼   ► Okay, so... well...

00:28:30 ◼   ► I mean, this was... we wanted it.

00:28:32 ◼   ► Yeah, I'm sad.

00:28:33 ◼   ► I'm not disappointed in you.

00:28:34 ◼   ► One thing I will point out is that there's a good chance I will eventually get this feature,

00:28:40 ◼   ► but there's no way to verify it right now.

00:28:42 ◼   ► No... okay.

00:28:44 ◼   ► Well, the rule says that's to be verified by...

00:28:46 ◼   ► Yeah, I know, I know.

00:28:47 ◼   ► ...for those...

00:28:47 ◼   ► Just, you know, there's a... I saw that there's a session,

00:28:50 ◼   ► and I sent you boys a screenshot of it,

00:28:54 ◼   ► and I was able to verify that the session exists, but it's not out yet.

00:28:58 ◼   ► And it says, "Support external cameras in your iPadOS app."

00:29:02 ◼   ► It says, "Learn how you can discover to connect external cameras in your iPadOS app."

00:29:10 ◼   ► Blah, blah, blah.

00:29:12 ◼   ► "We'll show you how to rotate video..."

00:29:14 ◼   ► You don't care about video.

00:29:16 ◼   ► "...from both external and built-in cameras..."

00:29:18 ◼   ► Okay, it looks like we don't care about video.

00:29:21 ◼   ► No, in this context.

00:29:22 ◼   ► In this context, not important.

00:29:23 ◼   ► "...support external microphones with USB-C and perform audio routing."

00:29:31 ◼   ► This is the text of the session that is coming out in two days.

00:29:37 ◼   ► But we don't know what it means.

00:29:40 ◼   ► But also as well, like, that's not necessarily similar to macOS.

00:29:45 ◼   ► Like, it doesn't sound like that...

00:29:47 ◼   ► Because you've been...

00:29:47 ◼   ► You have the beta installed on your iPad too, right?

00:29:50 ◼   ► And there's no, like... you can't just do audio routing in the system anywhere.

00:29:54 ◼   ► It seems like it's like an app-based thing or whatever.

00:29:57 ◼   ► There's no way to verify right now.

00:29:58 ◼   ► And I know that we need to verify this.

00:29:59 ◼   ► It will be interesting to follow up on this one.

00:30:01 ◼   ► I should see realistically what this means.

00:30:03 ◼   ► It's not a point.

00:30:04 ◼   ► It's not a point.

00:30:05 ◼   ► But in spirit, it is a point.

00:30:06 ◼   ► In... well, sure.

00:30:08 ◼   ► So you could say that I'm the moral winner.

00:30:10 ◼   ► No, I couldn't say that.

00:30:11 ◼   ► I think you could say this.

00:30:12 ◼   ► I think everybody here would agree that I'm the moral winner.

00:30:15 ◼   ► Everybody here is not going to agree with you, including the two of us.

00:30:19 ◼   ► No, no, no, no.

00:30:19 ◼   ► Look, you may be able to come back on next week's episode and take this moral victory lap.

00:30:24 ◼   ► But as of right now...

00:30:24 ◼   ► And if you do, it's a victory for all of us.

00:30:28 ◼   ► No, no, no. Just for me.

00:30:29 ◼   ► To be fair, Federico, you still could win today.

00:30:32 ◼   ► So we will get to that.

00:30:34 ◼   ► No, because we know that the system you're using is rigged.

00:30:38 ◼   ► It's rigged.

00:30:39 ◼   ► Yes.

00:30:39 ◼   ► Okay.

00:30:40 ◼   ► I said Apple introduces a co-pilot-like feature for Xcode powered by AI on machine learning.

00:30:47 ◼   ► I swung for the fences.

00:30:48 ◼   ► They brought transformer models to other things.

00:30:51 ◼   ► Auto correct, which sounds awesome.

00:30:53 ◼   ► It's really nicely done.

00:30:55 ◼   ► Is it good?

00:30:55 ◼   ► It's much better than before.

00:30:57 ◼   ► And the live transcription thing for FaceTime is also using that.

00:31:00 ◼   ► So they are dipping their toe into this water, I think, faster than I expected.

00:31:04 ◼   ► To actually put it into shipping consumer things rather than developer things is...

00:31:08 ◼   ► The keyboard is used by literally everybody who has an iPhone.

00:31:11 ◼   ► So I'm excited about that because you both texted me a lot.

00:31:15 ◼   ► I make lots of mistakes in my auto correct because I don't pay any attention when I'm writing.

00:31:19 ◼   ► So I look forward to maybe being a bit better powered by Apple tea.

00:31:26 ◼   ► All right.

00:31:28 ◼   ► My risky pick.

00:31:30 ◼   ► Last one.

00:31:31 ◼   ► The first part came true.

00:31:34 ◼   ► They did announce a price.

00:31:35 ◼   ► See, that was the thing where we thought it was risky because we just didn't think they would do it at all.

00:31:40 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:31:40 ◼   ► So I felt real good when they said the price is in the back half of the sentence.

00:31:43 ◼   ► Crushed my hopes.

00:31:44 ◼   ► My pick was the announced price of the headset will be less than $2,500.

00:31:49 ◼   ► You were $1,000 off.

00:31:52 ◼   ► How much could a banana cost?

00:31:53 ◼   ► Yeah, exactly.

00:31:54 ◼   ► That's a grand between friends.

00:31:55 ◼   ► That was a thing, right?

00:31:57 ◼   ► Do you remember when it was like a moment in the audience when they announced the price?

00:32:02 ◼   ► A lot of money.

00:32:04 ◼   ► Well, actually you've used it.

00:32:05 ◼   ► Is it worth $3,000?

00:32:07 ◼   ► Okay.

00:32:07 ◼   ► That is, I think, a very valid thing to say.

00:32:11 ◼   ► Have they been able to show you why it would cost that much?

00:32:15 ◼   ► I blocked one guy on Mastodon today who replied to me saying the Apple Vision Pro is another reality distortion thing and it's working on new sheeple.

00:32:31 ◼   ► Oh, wow.

00:32:31 ◼   ► When sheeple gets thrown in, that's like, you know what you're dealing with.

00:32:36 ◼   ► That's prime block material.

00:32:37 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:32:39 ◼   ► I think it's worth it.

00:32:41 ◼   ► I don't think it'll be worth it for a lot of people and I think that's the point.

00:32:45 ◼   ► I think, you know, this sort of like very high-end, very niche sort of for the, I don't want to say for the super fan, but for like the person who's really into the enthusiast.

00:32:57 ◼   ► For the enthusiast who's really into the Apple ecosystem, I think it makes a lot of sense.

00:33:01 ◼   ► I was telling Mike this earlier.

00:33:02 ◼   ► It's the first time in a while, the iPhone 10 was probably the last time, where like people just in my life

00:33:09 ◼   ► who don't listen to my shows, don't read Five Trail Pixels or Mac stories, are texting me.

00:33:14 ◼   ► Wait, do people in your life don't read Mac stories?

00:33:16 ◼   ► There are a few.

00:33:17 ◼   ► Tell me about the headset.

00:33:19 ◼   ► What is this thing?

00:33:20 ◼   ► Because it's broken through and they usually, the second question is about the cost, but people are intrigued by the technology and the product.

00:33:29 ◼   ► And I'm super excited.

00:33:31 ◼   ► I mean, you've tried it, Mike, you get to, that these early impressions are so positive.

00:33:38 ◼   ► Yeah, I don't think I've read it in like a negative review, quote unquote, impressions.

00:33:44 ◼   ► Yeah, me neither.

00:33:45 ◼   ► I mean, in a couple of videos I've watched, everyone's very positive.

00:33:48 ◼   ► So I got the pick wrong, but I think I'm like Federico, a moral winner.

00:33:53 ◼   ► Yeah, I think the moral loser here is Mike.

00:33:57 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:33:58 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:33:58 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:33:59 ◼   ► I think you should feel bad about this.

00:34:01 ◼   ► Well, do you know what though?

00:34:02 ◼   ► We're going to have to wait and see, aren't we?

00:34:03 ◼   ► No, I don't think...

00:34:04 ◼   ► We are now by the rules.

00:34:06 ◼   ► The rules.

00:34:07 ◼   ► Tide.

00:34:08 ◼   ► Oh, I bet you love that.

00:34:10 ◼   ► You and your rig game.

00:34:12 ◼   ► Me and my rig game love this.

00:34:13 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:34:14 ◼   ► This is a...

00:34:14 ◼   ► It's happened one time before.

00:34:16 ◼   ► ...precedented three-way tie.

00:34:18 ◼   ► This first happened at WWDC 2019.

00:34:22 ◼   ► I went back and...

00:34:24 ◼   ► Because I woke up this morning in a panic.

00:34:26 ◼   ► I'm just going to say, look what happened after 2019.

00:34:30 ◼   ► Yeah, Jason was banned for flipping coins.

00:34:31 ◼   ► Are you saying...

00:34:32 ◼   ► I think he's saying that...

00:34:33 ◼   ► Oh, the other thing.

00:34:34 ◼   ► I think he's talking about the pandemic.

00:34:36 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:34:36 ◼   ► I don't...

00:34:37 ◼   ► Somehow related to the fact that you won the Ricky's in June, which was quite a long time...

00:34:41 ◼   ► He was the one who got the virus tattoo that year.

00:34:43 ◼   ► That's true.

00:34:44 ◼   ► You did do that.

00:34:45 ◼   ► Let's park this part of the conversation.

00:34:47 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:34:47 ◼   ► We don't have to blame the pandemic on each other right now.

00:34:50 ◼   ► We could do it later.

00:34:51 ◼   ► We'll see how the coin flipping goes.

00:34:53 ◼   ► So I listened back today to that to try and remember how we resolved this last time.

00:34:58 ◼   ► Okay.

00:34:59 ◼   ► And I proposed two options and we went with the following, which was,

00:35:03 ◼   ► we will just flip coins via...

00:35:07 ◼   ► We used Siri then, now we will use the dice by PicoCap until there is just one person.

00:35:13 ◼   ► So I would say what I think it's going to be.

00:35:16 ◼   ► You say...

00:35:16 ◼   ► So we all say the same heads or tails.

00:35:18 ◼   ► And then we keep rolling until there's one left.

00:35:21 ◼   ► No, no, no.

00:35:22 ◼   ► It's one coin flip.

00:35:23 ◼   ► You say...

00:35:24 ◼   ► So we all make our pick for the coin flip.

00:35:26 ◼   ► I flip the coin.

00:35:27 ◼   ► Whoever's right advances to the next round of it until there's just one person.

00:35:32 ◼   ► This is unfair.

00:35:32 ◼   ► And last year I won it in the first round.

00:35:35 ◼   ► How is it unfair?

00:35:36 ◼   ► What's more fair?

00:35:37 ◼   ► More fair would be to adjudicate based on the proximity of the pick.

00:35:44 ◼   ► No, that's not fair.

00:35:45 ◼   ► We're not changing the rules to proximity today.

00:35:48 ◼   ► What is this, upgrade?

00:35:49 ◼   ► Okay.

00:35:51 ◼   ► So...

00:35:52 ◼   ► No, it's just, you know what it's going to be.

00:35:54 ◼   ► Tell me.

00:35:55 ◼   ► The developer is your friend.

00:35:56 ◼   ► Do you want to do it?

00:35:59 ◼   ► No.

00:35:59 ◼   ► Okay.

00:36:00 ◼   ► So we are... hold on.

00:36:03 ◼   ► Right.

00:36:03 ◼   ► Let me turn up the volume.

00:36:04 ◼   ► And I'm going to make sure I'm in relay FM mode.

00:36:07 ◼   ► Also, you're just...

00:36:10 ◼   ► Who says it first?

00:36:12 ◼   ► No, right.

00:36:13 ◼   ► So we're all doing it.

00:36:14 ◼   ► So, okay.

00:36:14 ◼   ► Heads or tails?

00:36:15 ◼   ► Well, but now you're going to see the opposite of what I say.

00:36:18 ◼   ► Just to, you know, to...

00:36:19 ◼   ► Heads or tails?

00:36:21 ◼   ► Heads.

00:36:21 ◼   ► I'm going to say tails.

00:36:22 ◼   ► Heads.

00:36:24 ◼   ► All right.

00:36:24 ◼   ► So here we go.

00:36:25 ◼   ► I could win this.

00:36:27 ◼   ► If this is tails, I absolutely win this.

00:36:29 ◼   ► You know that, right?

00:36:30 ◼   ► Heads.

00:36:31 ◼   ► Damn it.

00:36:31 ◼   ► All right.

00:36:31 ◼   ► So...

00:36:32 ◼   ► Ha ha!

00:36:33 ◼   ► Jesus.

00:36:33 ◼   ► All right.

00:36:35 ◼   ► So I'm going to go to the bottom of the document.

00:36:37 ◼   ► Mike is the loser.

00:36:38 ◼   ► Okay, great.

00:36:39 ◼   ► I told you.

00:36:40 ◼   ► It's heads or tails between the two of you.

00:36:44 ◼   ► All right.

00:36:44 ◼   ► So now I don't know who gets to go first.

00:36:46 ◼   ► Actually, Steven picked first.

00:36:48 ◼   ► So now you pick first.

00:36:48 ◼   ► Heads or tails?

00:36:49 ◼   ► Why are you looking around?

00:36:52 ◼   ► He's looking.

00:36:53 ◼   ► Inspiration.

00:36:54 ◼   ► You know, heads.

00:36:59 ◼   ► So you got tails.

00:37:00 ◼   ► Okay.

00:37:01 ◼   ► Well, unless you want to be heads too, but then we could go on forever.

00:37:03 ◼   ► That does seem to invalidate this game.

00:37:05 ◼   ► We could just keep going forever.

00:37:06 ◼   ► So Federico heads, Steven tails.

00:37:09 ◼   ► Yes, sir.

00:37:09 ◼   ► All right.

00:37:10 ◼   ► Tails.

00:37:11 ◼   ► Collusion.

00:37:12 ◼   ► Yes.

00:37:13 ◼   ► Yes!

00:37:14 ◼   ► I knew this was going to happen.

00:37:16 ◼   ► I will say, which is I've never seen this happen before.

00:37:19 ◼   ► And this was strange.

00:37:20 ◼   ► It said tails before the coin landed.

00:37:24 ◼   ► What?

00:37:25 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:37:26 ◼   ► I've never seen this happen in an app before.

00:37:28 ◼   ► I mean, we can rewrite the rules to use a better app later.

00:37:31 ◼   ► That was very strange.

00:37:33 ◼   ► The coin was still flipping.

00:37:34 ◼   ► It was like in the air in the app.

00:37:36 ◼   ► Well, it feels good to be a winner.

00:37:37 ◼   ► I will say I'm just going to join you in this.

00:37:40 ◼   ► I can't change the rules, but that felt fishy.

00:37:44 ◼   ► Well, we can address the rules in a future episode if you want.

00:37:47 ◼   ► That was fishy.

00:37:48 ◼   ► I'm just saying a three-way tie.

00:37:50 ◼   ► This is a repeat of 2019.

00:37:52 ◼   ► So enjoy this space because you're not going to see you next year.

00:37:57 ◼   ► This is weird.

00:37:57 ◼   ► Take a look around, take it all in now, because we're not going to come back.

00:38:01 ◼   ► Isn't that weird?

00:38:02 ◼   ► The three-way tie and he won again.

00:38:05 ◼   ► But I can't win a one-on-one coin flip to save my life.

00:38:08 ◼   ► But three-way ties and the app was being weird.

00:38:11 ◼   ► Congratulations to you, but I'm not sure I believe in it.

00:38:14 ◼   ► Three-way tie, he won again.

00:38:15 ◼   ► Well, I will rule over my kingdom with justice, goodness, and truth.

00:38:20 ◼   ► I'm going to have a press conference tomorrow.

00:38:22 ◼   ► Are you?

00:38:22 ◼   ► Are you going to succession me?

00:38:24 ◼   ► Don't succession me.

00:38:25 ◼   ► There's going to be a press conference tomorrow.

00:38:26 ◼   ► Hey, no spoilers.

00:38:27 ◼   ► And we'll address this.

00:38:28 ◼   ► OK.

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00:39:59 ◼   ► The Flexis is a game held after each edition of The Rickies.

00:40:03 ◼   ► It consists of a series of additional picks in relation to the upcoming Apple event or year.

00:40:08 ◼   ► Scoring is completed separately from the main game, but like The Rickies,

00:40:12 ◼   ► the order of picks is set by the results of the previous game,

00:40:15 ◼   ► and ties will be broken by using dice by p-calc.

00:40:19 ◼   ► Please lie down as the rules are read.

00:40:21 ◼   ► Hosts must make a minimum of five Flexi picks.

00:40:32 ◼   ► Each correct pick is awarded with one point.

00:40:34 ◼   ► Wrong picks do not remove any points, and no partial points may be awarded.

00:40:38 ◼   ► The winner is determined by comparing the percentage of correct Flexis made by each host.

00:40:44 ◼   ► The winner can choose their chosen title as long as they are the winner.

00:40:47 ◼   ► Federico shall be named Prince Flexi and is known as King Flexi when having won

00:40:52 ◼   ► both the keynote and annual games. Mike has chosen Duke of Flexington and uses the name

00:40:57 ◼   ► Archduke Flexington when applicable. I am the Attorney General Flexi and use the title

00:41:03 ◼   ► Secretary of Deflex when necessary.

00:41:10 ◼   ► Loser of the Flexis must compensate the winner of the Flexis by donating to a charity of the

00:41:14 ◼   ► winner's choice. The amount of the donation is $25 per wrong Flexi made by the loser.

00:41:20 ◼   ► The money must be donated on air.

00:41:22 ◼   ► Mike is the current winner of the keynote Flexis and the winner of the annual Flexis.

00:41:29 ◼   ► You may return to your seats.

00:41:31 ◼   ► Mike, you are up first.

00:41:34 ◼   ► My first one was the iPadOS cursor appears to be repurposed for using iPad apps in VR.

00:41:40 ◼   ► Now, at first, this didn't seem to be the case. I found a clip from a session video today.

00:41:46 ◼   ► It's in there.

00:41:46 ◼   ► It's in there. I showed it to Steven. Steve Charlton Smith posted about it on Mastodon

00:41:51 ◼   ► that when you are using a trackpad, it has the little circle that goes around the UI

00:41:58 ◼   ► and in the headset. I didn't think this was in there, but it's only when you're using like

00:42:04 ◼   ► a Bluetooth trackpad, which makes sense.

00:42:06 ◼   ► Hmm.

00:42:08 ◼   ► Ding.

00:42:09 ◼   ► No Mac Pro teaser video. Is Mark says green?

00:42:14 ◼   ► There was not a teaser video. He just came out and just said it.

00:42:17 ◼   ► Oh, come on. So it's technically correct because it's not a teaser video?

00:42:21 ◼   ► Yes. I'll take that. I mean, I'm not doing I'm looking at the score. I'm not doing well.

00:42:25 ◼   ► So I'll take that one.

00:42:26 ◼   ► It is correct, but it was a weird pick. But you need to address something here with this pick.

00:42:31 ◼   ► So this was pointed out in the Discord today by Jason, who runs a Rickypedia at rickys.net.

00:42:38 ◼   ► Because last time Federico, you mentioned that you thought that or somebody mentioned that this

00:42:42 ◼   ► might have been the long your iPad OS routing system may have been the word count, the longest

00:42:48 ◼   ► Ricky. But it was actually my one from last year. It was close. The reason we're doing this is

00:42:54 ◼   ► because I picked the Mac Pro last time as my Ricky. And this is what I said. Apple gives a

00:42:59 ◼   ► sneak peek of the new Mac Pro. It features a case design inspired by the 2019 Mac Pro.

00:43:04 ◼   ► It features more ports than any other Apple Silicon Mac available today. Check. It does

00:43:08 ◼   ► not have support for third party GPUs. Check. It features a chip name that has not appeared

00:43:12 ◼   ► in any other product. Kind of. I mean, it hadn't. I mean, it's at the same time. It has a starting

00:43:18 ◼   ► price of at least $6,999. And it is coming later this year. I check check. This was wrong then.

00:43:24 ◼   ► But I was basically correct. This is the most ahead of your time pick ever made.

00:43:28 ◼   ► If this if I made that pick this time, I probably I think I would have basically got it right.

00:43:34 ◼   ► But it wouldn't have been sneak. Close. So here's the thing. The discords popping off as the kids

00:43:39 ◼   ► say that there was a video. It's not a teaser video because then the man just announced it.

00:43:43 ◼   ► Teaser video means there's an iMac Pro announced in June. It comes in December. You could have

00:43:48 ◼   ► bought you bought yesterday. You could buy yesterday. I did not buy. Well, I don't know.

00:43:52 ◼   ► I haven't checked your credit card statements. Have you looked at the company's card? No,

00:43:56 ◼   ► because I can't. Interesting. He doesn't let me. You want to go out to dinner later? Yeah.

00:44:02 ◼   ► All right. I want you to go. All right. Rattle us through your last three. We do not know what

00:44:07 ◼   ► the price of the headset will be. The headset portion of the keynote lasts over an hour.

00:44:11 ◼   ► It's just under the very close. TV OS is not covered in the keynote. It had a huge section

00:44:16 ◼   ► in the middle. The shame that you should feel right now. Yeah. As the TV OS person. To be fair,

00:44:23 ◼   ► it was shoved into something about it. It wasn't. So I will now be at somebody sent this to me on

00:44:34 ◼   ► Mastodon today that I will now be the audio and rather than the TV OS guy, I'm the audio and home

00:44:41 ◼   ► guy now, I guess, because TV OS is now I'll just, I'm happy that TV OS got stuff. It was the only

00:44:47 ◼   ► system that got a redesign control center. Which is something that I thought should have happened.

00:44:51 ◼   ► And I'm happy about that. And that FaceTime thing. Continuity camera looks awesome on TV.

00:44:55 ◼   ► I'm very excited about that. Me too. Because I often have FaceTime calls on the iPad pro on

00:45:02 ◼   ► a stand, which is in front of the TV. So now we can just get rid of that part. Who needs an iPad?

00:45:06 ◼   ► That's what I'm saying. All right. So you ended up two out of five. That's 40%. It's 40%. Currently,

00:45:13 ◼   ► I'm in the lead. Yeah. Blow him out of the water. First out of one. All right. So I said with my

00:45:20 ◼   ► seven picks number one, the messages app gets an easier way to send photos that does not require

00:45:26 ◼   ► tapping and I message app anymore. Can you explain this though? So they have completely changed

00:45:32 ◼   ► sort of messages, how it deals with, uh, I sort of legacy I message apps and they're definitely

00:45:41 ◼   ► demoted, right? It's like a graveyard. Yeah. It's like, so basically there's a new, there's a new

00:45:45 ◼   ► plus button and when you tap it, you got this giant pop up with like the default features. Is

00:45:52 ◼   ► it full screen? No, it's not. You know what it looks like path. It looks like that. So you get

00:45:59 ◼   ► this pop up and these are nice. Yeah. It's very nice. And these icon design, I have thoughts,

00:46:04 ◼   ► camera photos, stickers, audio location, and I think there's also like a cash one in there.

00:46:10 ◼   ► Yeah. And under more, that's when you get the legacy smaller and they're smaller and full

00:46:16 ◼   ► screen. So now when you want to attach a photo, uh, it opens the new native photo picker and

00:46:23 ◼   ► yeah, it's still the same amount of taps, but it is logically better. It's a level up from the

00:46:29 ◼   ► camera and photos are like, they're in the same place now. We both think you get it. I mean,

00:46:34 ◼   ► yeah, he does get it. It's by the skin of your teeth, but I think you get it. I think it's

00:46:38 ◼   ► by the meat of your teeth. Yeah. Number two, I said stage manager for iPad gets support for

00:46:45 ◼   ► clamshell mode with external displays. Which didn't happen, but real quick, can you talk

00:46:50 ◼   ► about how great stage manager is now? Yeah. I so much better than last year. I was showing

00:46:56 ◼   ► Mike this morning. Um, go imagine Steven multitasking system that, uh, for example,

00:47:03 ◼   ► when you place a window somewhere, it stays there. Oh, like system seven and 1996 overlapping windows.

00:47:10 ◼   ► Yeah. They overlap for real. And you can resize them. Yeah. You can resize them more freely.

00:47:16 ◼   ► You have keyboard shortcuts to add windows to your workspace. Amazing. What a concept. Um,

00:47:21 ◼   ► I'll write about this soon, but yeah, I was watching like over Federico's shoulder today

00:47:26 ◼   ► while he was doing some work and like you was zip, zip, zipping around in that thing. It looked good.

00:47:30 ◼   ► So you're going to abandon the Mac again? We'll see. Well, we both have Macs. He has an iPhone.

00:47:37 ◼   ► Sorry. Well, one is an iPod. I feel like we need a name for this. The iPod phone. The iPhone.

00:47:44 ◼   ► I thought I thought thank you. All right. There's no support for clamshell mode. Yeah.

00:47:53 ◼   ► It seems like that's the next logical step though. I hope so. You had to have camera support and

00:47:58 ◼   ► stuff. They added support for camera, for external cameras. And I mean, it's right there. It's right

00:48:03 ◼   ► there. So just, you know, close it and you should be able to use it. Anyway. Number three, let it

00:48:08 ◼   ► ring out for everyone to hear your next pick. The next version of Mac OS is called skyline.

00:48:14 ◼   ► One of my favorite. Sonoma. Why would you call? It's a good name Federico. It's a good name.

00:48:22 ◼   ► It's in a place in California. I, when they were just doing the video,

00:48:27 ◼   ► I was just sitting and staring at him waiting for it to happen. And he was disappointed.

00:48:33 ◼   ► What's Sonoma? Wine country. Wine country. You like wine, right? I like wine. I like Italian

00:48:39 ◼   ► wine. I like real wine. Wine. Number four. Are we getting kicked out? Because of you this time.

00:48:54 ◼   ► Number four, we see at least one new dynamic island feature.

00:49:00 ◼   ► Yeah. We got the new drop stuff. The name, the bump thing, which Federico, which Federico, which

00:49:12 ◼   ► Craig Federighi, yeah. For guy made fun of like eight years ago in a keynote. Yeah. Now they're

00:49:18 ◼   ► bummed phones again. So this is a point. Number five, the wallet app gets a new design. Does it?

00:49:25 ◼   ► No. Oh, this made me sad. I used wallet too because I flew in today. So I was using wallet all

00:49:29 ◼   ► day. You know, I was like, I wish this was better. Number six, some new shortcuts features get covered

00:49:36 ◼   ► in the state of the union. Ding, ding. Yes, they did. They have, first of all, the, all the new

00:49:44 ◼   ► widget interaction stuff is all based on app intents. So the shortcuts team is also responsible

00:49:49 ◼   ► for that now. But what they also showed in the state of the union was this new sort of promotion

00:49:54 ◼   ► for app shortcuts, which as you recall, they launched last year. These sort of one action

00:50:00 ◼   ► shortcuts for apps, they got promoted to a top level result in spotlight. So now when you search

00:50:06 ◼   ► for, for example, for say ivory, you search for ivory on your iPad and you see the icon for ivory

00:50:13 ◼   ► and right next to it, you see some of the top shortcuts for it in like this, this row of results.

00:50:20 ◼   ► It's really well done. That's cool. Really cool way to sort of showcase the app shortcuts for the app.

00:50:24 ◼   ► And a new Excel widget, right? Yes. And they have the new Excel widgets on, on the iPad.

00:50:31 ◼   ► Finally. And I believe they have. The little widget became more dense as well. Wait, what?

00:50:37 ◼   ► Yeah. The little iPhone widget. The little widget. The little widget.

00:50:43 ◼   ► Do you have it? Can I see it? No, it's kind of not working for me. Okay. Fair enough.

00:50:58 ◼   ► Is there more than one shortcut in the one? Two, I think. That's great. In the widget, there's two.

00:51:04 ◼   ► Let's see. Number seven. Number seven. The next version of iOS brings at least one

00:51:11 ◼   ► new AirPods related feature. I cannot believe. Oh, sorry. I cannot believe you got this, but I'm super

00:51:18 ◼   ► excited about this feature. What's it called? Adaptive audio. This is exactly what I want.

00:51:22 ◼   ► Like it's best of both worlds. Like the meme, why not both? So you get transparency and you get

00:51:31 ◼   ► noise cancellation. Gets you an update that can do both, you know? Do you use AirPods, bro? Yeah.

00:51:36 ◼   ► They're my backpack. I always forget. Cause you had that like time. I didn't like the first ones

00:51:41 ◼   ► didn't work for me, but I love that the twos. Okay. So Federico, you got four out of seven.

00:51:49 ◼   ► So you're 57.1%. You are now last. I'm currently last. You are first. And I'm winning. I'm the loser

00:51:58 ◼   ► again. Well, let's see what I do. I'm still winning over the years. So, you know, whatever.

00:52:02 ◼   ► You need to do this later on. My first one, the keynote video runs over two hours.

00:52:08 ◼   ► Yeah, it did. The 15 inch MacBook Air will be powered by an M3. Well, no, this is not. No M3s,

00:52:16 ◼   ► but we did get a new M2 Ultra in the studio and the pro, but no M3s. Apple reframes an existing

00:52:23 ◼   ► feature as being powered by AI. No, they even said machine learning, which I was surprised about.

00:52:29 ◼   ► Those letters did not pass over anyone's lips. I'm happy because it means that Apple is being

00:52:34 ◼   ► true to what these things actually are, which is not AI. They are machine learning.

00:52:39 ◼   ► What? Jeff Williams has a major role in introducing the headset. Neither was it Jeff Williams or Kevin

00:52:51 ◼   ► Lynch. It was neither. We saw both of them. No, Jeff Williams. Yeah, we had a lot of discussion

00:52:57 ◼   ► internally as to who we get to introduce the headset. And who did you decide on? Yeah, well,

00:53:02 ◼   ► I should have been me. Should have been me. Oh, okay. But who's somebody? I chose to be in the

00:53:07 ◼   ► audience just to sort of get the vibe from the people. Yeah. Incredible. We didn't see Jeff at

00:53:14 ◼   ► all. No, we didn't see Jeff. He, and I realize now that it was a bad pick. Oh, you realize now?

00:53:21 ◼   ► We'll see. Just now. We'll see him in the fall with new watch hardware, I'm sure. Will we?

00:53:25 ◼   ► Yeah. Based on past experience and my next Flexi. Okay. iPadOS 17 gains lock screen customization.

00:53:34 ◼   ► Boy, did it. Ding. It looks good. It does. It is reminiscent of when they brought widgets for the

00:53:40 ◼   ► first time. Cause there's over there on the sidebar. And Federico, get me wrong cause I

00:53:44 ◼   ► haven't played with any betas. You can do a lot of them in the side. In landscape, you can do like a

00:53:50 ◼   ► whole column. But on portrait, you just get like under the time, like on the phone. So that part in

00:53:54 ◼   ► the keynote, when they're showing them on the left-hand side, I was sitting next to underscore

00:53:59 ◼   ► David Smith and he just went, Oh, there's an extra tall one. It's like, how can you, how,

00:54:04 ◼   ► how can you just visually understand that? But he knew there's a new sign. Can we just say

00:54:09 ◼   ► the year of underscore? Well, I mean, for good and bad, I feel like. His summer's ruined,

00:54:14 ◼   ► but widgets everywhere. Everywhere. Did you know that Dave got a dog and called him widget?

00:54:18 ◼   ► Did he? Why is that joke? That's no, he didn't do that. But it was a puppy.

00:54:25 ◼   ► He called him little widget. There we go. I would say widget is a pretty good name for a dog.

00:54:31 ◼   ► It's a good name. She got a dog calling him little widget. Who are you talking to now? Me or him?

00:54:35 ◼   ► You? I don't want a dog. I have a dog already. Yeah. Eva corn dog. That's such a great name.

00:54:40 ◼   ► It was a good name. Yeah. Number six. We see a Mac pro preview. Not only that,

00:54:46 ◼   ► it's shipping next week. I'm sorry. Well, are you getting one? No. Is it a preview?

00:54:54 ◼   ► Yeah, it's previewed. But in the same way that we agreed, it wasn't a teaser video.

00:54:59 ◼   ► We gave him a point. You give me a point. No, but like mine was, it was not a teaser video.

00:55:04 ◼   ► Yeah. So like previewed it. Well, is it a preview? It's a preview and now it's for sale.

00:55:11 ◼   ► Isn't that just? No, that's not how it works. Are you taking it away from me? I don't know.

00:55:18 ◼   ► It's up to you all. I don't know. No, you should fight for it. Yeah, fight for it.

00:55:22 ◼   ► I think I deserve the point. Was that a good fight? I don't think he put up a good fight.

00:55:26 ◼   ► It always puts up a good fight. Okay, that's it then. He put up a good fight.

00:55:29 ◼   ► There you go. Thank you. Number seven, the next version of Mac OS is not called Skyline.

00:55:36 ◼   ► The old counter pick.

00:55:37 ◼   ► All right. So I got four out of seven. Which is?

00:55:43 ◼   ► 51, 57.1%. So back we go. We are tied. Okay. You can pick first.

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00:57:35 ◼   ► of this show and Relay FM. I've got to get the phone out again. I've got to do the whole thing.

00:57:40 ◼   ► So we either split or I take it all home. No, I'm not letting you take it all home. Well,

00:57:44 ◼   ► it's really not up to you, is it? All right, so what do you want? Federico heads all tails.

00:57:49 ◼   ► It's rigged anyway. Well, if it does it again, then I'm going to see this. It's only it's only

00:57:55 ◼   ► not rigged if I win. There it is. Well, I mean, by your standards, yes. That's how it works. Yes.

00:58:02 ◼   ► Yeah. Heads or tails? Heads. Heads? Okay. I'm going to go tails. Well, you have to. You don't have a

00:58:09 ◼   ► choice in this. Okay. Heads. Congratulations. Congratulations. So Federico, you win the

00:58:18 ◼   ► Flexis. Yes. And that means I have to donate money. Yes. How much? $25 per wrong pick. So it's $75

00:58:28 ◼   ► for me? Yes. Yes. So to a place of his choosing. Where do you want me to donate money to? Boy,

00:58:35 ◼   ► do I have a good charity for you. iPods for children. iPods for children. So I picked the

00:58:44 ◼   ► ASPCA. That's the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. Okay. Yeah.

00:58:51 ◼   ► So a bunch of good dogs on the front page. Is it $75? It is. And cats. Dogs and cats. Dogs and cats.

00:58:58 ◼   ► All the great animals. All the great animals. All kinds of animals. So while you do that,

00:59:03 ◼   ► I'm going to ask Federico a couple questions. Yeah. Because you weren't here last year. You

00:59:07 ◼   ► had some stuff going on at home. You were moving and buying a house and everything.

00:59:10 ◼   ► I need to have a US address. You can use mine. How has it been being back? Oh, really nice.

00:59:17 ◼   ► Just to be around people. Well, not like I'm not around people at home, but in the sense of like

00:59:26 ◼   ► being around you guys. And I haven't seen you in person for four years. And there's this kind of

00:59:36 ◼   ► energy, this kind of vibe here at Apple Park. And I was really concerned about... There's a particular

00:59:40 ◼   ► vibe in this room too. We have a good vibe today. Yeah. Well, look, I've been here like three hours

00:59:45 ◼   ► at this point. And um... Blink twice if you're hostage. I don't know if I'm coming back given

00:59:51 ◼   ► the things I've said today. I don't know if I'll be coming back. But here at Apple Park,

00:59:57 ◼   ► I was really concerned that the different format of WWDC was going to be, yeah, like there's fewer

01:00:03 ◼   ► people around and everything is more spread out. And I thought I'm gonna like the old format

01:00:11 ◼   ► in San Jose with the convention center more. But I've been hanging around here since yesterday and

01:00:17 ◼   ► just this place has this kind of like this special energy. Somebody, I don't recall who, somebody

01:00:25 ◼   ► asked me like, "How does it feel to be at Apple Park?" And I replied, "It smells good." It does. It

01:00:33 ◼   ► does smell good. It smells like outside. It smells like nature. Do you think that's natural nature?

01:00:39 ◼   ► Or do you think they're piping that in? I don't know. By the way, I cannot donate to the SPCA.

01:00:44 ◼   ► I just can't do it. They won't accept my credit card. Are you seriously refusing? Federico,

01:00:51 ◼   ► Steven's address is not on my credit card. Okay, okay. We'll do this afterwards. I can do it on my

01:00:56 ◼   ► card and then you pay me 75 bucks. Wow. What have those animals done to you? We've done this before.

01:00:59 ◼   ► I've donated for you and you paid me back. It's fine. Look, I get it that you don't like dogs,

01:01:03 ◼   ► but this is next level even for you. It's pretty dark. I don't know what's happened to me right

01:01:07 ◼   ► now. Think of poor little Widgee. Yeah, look at that little dog and this little car. Look,

01:01:10 ◼   ► it just says, "Donation transaction failed. There is nothing I can do about this." Wow.

01:01:18 ◼   ► Welcome back to the Quizzies, the Canadian Quiz Show.

01:01:22 ◼   ► You really choked on your intro. I wasn't ready for it. You just pressed the button.

01:01:28 ◼   ► No, not again. Welcome back to the Quizzies, inside of the Quizzies, where I like early quiz,

01:01:34 ◼   ► my connected quiz co-hosts, randomly, and by surprise, in a variety of varying subjects.

01:01:40 ◼   ► I do not have a quiz for you today, but we do have to resolve the scoring of the last one,

01:01:48 ◼   ► where what ended up happening was I asked the two of you, "Who will win the Ricky's and who will

01:01:52 ◼   ► win the Flexys?" and offered a 150-point bounty to the person who guessed correctly. And in the most

01:01:59 ◼   ► boring way possible, this is how it was resolved. You both wanted to give the points to yourself.

01:02:05 ◼   ► Each of you won. You both get 150 points. Nothing has changed.

01:02:10 ◼   ► Welcome back to the Quizzies.

01:02:15 ◼   ► I was really hoping in this that maybe one of you was gonna like play the counter on this.

01:02:20 ◼   ► Yeah, we didn't know. Can you give us our scores for the year?

01:02:22 ◼   ► So now the scores for the year is Federico, you're at 1,620 points, and Steven, you're at 1,840

01:02:32 ◼   ► points. So the points gap is really close. Well, you know what? It's as close as it was last week

01:02:38 ◼   ► before we did this as well. So nothing has changed. We're just moving in parallel.

01:02:42 ◼   ► What you're saying is that all of this was useless. All of this was for nothing,

01:02:46 ◼   ► because also no charities received any money either, because the ASPCA will not accept

01:02:51 ◼   ► foreign transactions. No, or because you... Well, no. Whatever it is you were gonna say,

01:02:58 ◼   ► don't say it. Don't say it. It's probably best for everyone if you don't say it.

01:03:02 ◼   ► Should we wrap it up? I think we should. Yeah. I am exhausted. Me too. It's good I don't have

01:03:08 ◼   ► anything important up to this. Thank you very much for joining us for this very special in-person

01:03:13 ◼   ► episode of Connected. We didn't do the thing. We gotta do like a group high five. We held hands

01:03:19 ◼   ► for a while. That was terrible. If you wanna find links to the show notes, there may be something

01:03:27 ◼   ► in there. I don't even know. Currently I've added zero. We'll do the Ricky's, .co and rickys.net

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01:03:57 ◼   ► Thank you all to our members. And you can find us all online. Federico is the editor-in-chief

01:04:03 ◼   ► of maxstories.net. Y'all have been super busy this week. App Stories pumping out. Y'all recorded like

01:04:09 ◼   ► 15 of those today. Yeah. So Alex is doing some great coverage of some of the smaller features.

01:04:14 ◼   ► I love those stories. He's doing a great job. If you wanna follow along with Federico online,

01:04:18 ◼   ► he's on Mastodon as Fitichi at maxstories.net. You can find Mike on other shows here on relay.fm.

01:04:25 ◼   ► Y'all did Upgrade live after the keynote on Monday. It was fantastic. Thank you. You're also

01:04:31 ◼   ► the co-founder of Cortex brand and you are on Mastodon as iMike and mike.social. Yeah. Why are

01:04:38 ◼   ► you doing this from memory? I don't know. It's literally down there. You could just look at it.

01:04:41 ◼   ► I just thought, I just figured he was gonna, he had like a script for all of this. No,

01:04:46 ◼   ► he does have a script for all this, but for some reason he's not consulting. All I have is the

01:04:49 ◼   ► Mastodon links. He wants to show off that he can still memorize things. Even as he is an older.

01:04:55 ◼   ► His age. Yeah. Please carry on. What show is this? What do you think it is? Please carry on.

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