Connected

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00:00:07 ◼   ► >> From Relay, this is Connected, episode 518.

00:00:11 ◼   ► Today's show is brought to you by Ecamm, Squarespace,

00:00:14 ◼   ► 1Password, Extended Access Management, and Backblaze.

00:00:17 ◼   ► I'm Federico Vittucci, and it's my pleasure to

00:00:19 ◼   ► introduce keynote chairman, Stephen Hackett. Hello, Stephen.

00:00:23 ◼   ► >> Hello. I look forward to retaining my title today, right?

00:00:27 ◼   ► >> Yeah, you do.

00:00:29 ◼   ► >> I bet you do.

00:00:30 ◼   ► >> We'll see.

00:00:30 ◼   ► >> I bet you do.

00:00:31 ◼   ► >> Yeah.

00:00:31 ◼   ► >> Stay tuned.

00:00:32 ◼   ► >> Yes.

00:00:33 ◼   ► >> I am pleased to announce the attendance

00:00:37 ◼   ► of this recording of Annual Chairman, Mike Hurley.

00:00:41 ◼   ► >> I love it. That was great.

00:00:43 ◼   ► >> Fell apart of me big time.

00:00:45 ◼   ► >> Thank you.

00:00:45 ◼   ► >> I'm really happy to be here, as always.

00:00:50 ◼   ► I always like these episodes.

00:00:51 ◼   ► These are good episodes, and here we are.

00:00:54 ◼   ► We have follow-up. What is the follow-up?

00:00:55 ◼   ► >> Follow-up.

00:00:56 ◼   ► >> Follow-up.

00:00:57 ◼   ► We mostly have follow-up about show questions.

00:01:01 ◼   ► >> The best ones. Okay.

00:01:03 ◼   ► >> Don't know how to say that otherwise.

00:01:05 ◼   ► Ben wrote in, listener Ben,

00:01:09 ◼   ► "I've listened to your show for years and I've never

00:01:11 ◼   ► thought about where your opening title music comes from.

00:01:14 ◼   ► Why did you choose this classical piece?"

00:01:17 ◼   ► >> This piece is Beethoven's Symphony No. 1,

00:01:23 ◼   ► fourth movement in case for all you Apple music classical heads out there,

00:01:30 ◼   ► the classic heads, they can go check it out.

00:01:33 ◼   ► It's not just a theme song for a podcast.

00:01:35 ◼   ► We'd like to thank Beethoven for composing our theme song.

00:01:39 ◼   ► >> Yeah. Friend of the show.

00:01:40 ◼   ► >> Friend of the show, Beethoven.

00:01:42 ◼   ► It's not the one you think.

00:01:43 ◼   ► No, it is the one you think about.

00:01:45 ◼   ► It is the Beethoven.

00:01:46 ◼   ► Our previous show, The Prompt,

00:01:49 ◼   ► which had a piece of music composed by another famed composer,

00:01:54 ◼   ► Stephen Hackett, which was just all techno.

00:01:56 ◼   ► Because if you ask Stephen to make you music for a podcast,

00:02:01 ◼   ► it will be some form of techno.

00:02:04 ◼   ► It had all kinds of voiceover and all that kind of stuff.

00:02:08 ◼   ► It was aggressive but fun.

00:02:10 ◼   ► >> Welcome to The Prompt,

00:02:12 ◼   ► a weekly panel discussion on technology and

00:02:15 ◼   ► the culture surrounding Apple and related companies.

00:02:19 ◼   ► [MUSIC]

00:02:22 ◼   ► >> But over that time,

00:02:23 ◼   ► we started calling our show the world's greatest podcast,

00:02:27 ◼   ► which was obvious. Everybody knows it.

00:02:28 ◼   ► >> It still is.

00:02:29 ◼   ► >> It still is. When we started connected,

00:02:32 ◼   ► we wanted to embody the world's greatest podcast by being above everybody else.

00:02:37 ◼   ► We thought, what better way than classical music to do that.

00:02:40 ◼   ► It sets everyone in the right mood.

00:02:43 ◼   ► >> Yeah.

00:02:45 ◼   ► >> Every episode is a classic, basically.

00:02:47 ◼   ► >> I like that.

00:02:48 ◼   ► >> Yes.

00:02:49 ◼   ► >> It's good.

00:02:51 ◼   ► >> We also had some people ask,

00:02:52 ◼   ► a few people actually via the feedback form,

00:02:55 ◼   ► where does the name The Ricky's come from anyway?

00:02:59 ◼   ► Why are The Risky Picks and the game called that?

00:03:02 ◼   ► I did some digging today.

00:03:03 ◼   ► I was trying to find this answer and I should have just gone

00:03:06 ◼   ► immediately to rickys.net because it's actually there.

00:03:11 ◼   ► I want to thank Jason of rickys.net for putting that on there.

00:03:14 ◼   ► It's a quote from the page,

00:03:15 ◼   ► which I put in the show notes. In episode 245,

00:03:18 ◼   ► Steven mentions accidentally sending the word Ricky instead of risky,

00:03:23 ◼   ► and an iMessage thread,

00:03:24 ◼   ► which ends up in being a major shift in branding for the Connected Predictions game.

00:03:29 ◼   ► Because then we decided to call them the Ricky's and then everything else like the Jeremy's,

00:03:33 ◼   ► the Annie's, the U's,

00:03:35 ◼   ► all of these have come from that one also correct failure that occurred.

00:03:41 ◼   ► >> Yeah. A rare typo by Steven,

00:03:45 ◼   ► which of course was important enough to celebrate the occasion.

00:03:49 ◼   ► >> It's worth noting because we got this a little bit confused over time,

00:03:53 ◼   ► but I figured we could just say it now.

00:03:54 ◼   ► The game is called The Ricky's.

00:03:56 ◼   ► The final round is called The Risky Pick.

00:03:59 ◼   ► Because for a while we were calling them Ricky Picks,

00:04:01 ◼   ► which was confusing because technically they're all Ricky Picks because it's The Ricky's.

00:04:07 ◼   ► >> Yeah.

00:04:07 ◼   ► >> The final round, they are The Risky Picks.

00:04:10 ◼   ► >> Yeah.

00:04:10 ◼   ► >> Now we have The Ricky's.

00:04:12 ◼   ► >> Yeah.

00:04:13 ◼   ► >> So we're going to talk about what was

00:04:16 ◼   ► announced a little bit later on in the episode kind of hardware wise.

00:04:18 ◼   ► But one of the things they spoke about, well, actually no.

00:04:21 ◼   ► One of the things they didn't talk about during the event,

00:04:23 ◼   ► the glow time event,

00:04:25 ◼   ► was when all of the OS releases were going to drop,

00:04:28 ◼   ► but it was confirmed afterwards,

00:04:30 ◼   ► I think via press release,

00:04:31 ◼   ► that everything's dropping Monday.

00:04:34 ◼   ► So this is iOS, iPadOS,

00:04:36 ◼   ► WatchOS, MacOS, I don't know about VisionOS too, but I'm expecting.

00:04:41 ◼   ► >> VisionOS too.

00:04:41 ◼   ► >> They will. So everything's dropping

00:04:43 ◼   ► Monday which is, by the way, Apple, great.

00:04:46 ◼   ► This is what should happen.

00:04:48 ◼   ► If you're going to do annual releases,

00:04:50 ◼   ► I know it's hard, but have them come out at the same time.

00:04:53 ◼   ► Because we've all been in this scenario,

00:04:56 ◼   ► September you update your phone and then none of

00:04:58 ◼   ► your messages look right until the middle of October on your Mac,

00:05:01 ◼   ► because that's when they update that.

00:05:02 ◼   ► So this will come in Monday.

00:05:03 ◼   ► So Federico, you feeling good about Monday?

00:05:06 ◼   ► >> I'm feeling very good.

00:05:08 ◼   ► The review is done.

00:05:10 ◼   ► I am finalizing the screenshots.

00:05:12 ◼   ► I have screenshots left to do for one chapter.

00:05:15 ◼   ► I have some videos like screen recordings and a video left to do,

00:05:23 ◼   ► but the review has been done for a few days.

00:05:27 ◼   ► I sent you guys a draft today.

00:05:30 ◼   ► >> Yeah, very excited.

00:05:31 ◼   ► >> I teased on Mastodon

00:05:34 ◼   ► that this year's review is going to be very different.

00:05:37 ◼   ► You guys now know why.

00:05:39 ◼   ► It's both obviously stylistically different.

00:05:44 ◼   ► I think that the way that I've been thinking about it in my mind is that it's

00:05:49 ◼   ► my most personal review ever and that hopefully will make sense when you read it,

00:05:54 ◼   ► and it'll make sense for people on Monday.

00:05:56 ◼   ► I'm very proud of this story, especially the conclusion.

00:06:01 ◼   ► It's, like I said, very personal.

00:06:03 ◼   ► I'm also very excited about everything else surrounding the review.

00:06:08 ◼   ► What is it going to look like on Mac Stories?

00:06:11 ◼   ► The surprise for this year is something that I've never done before.

00:06:19 ◼   ► It's been killing me not to tell people.

00:06:23 ◼   ► I told you guys today,

00:06:25 ◼   ► and you seem to like it,

00:06:26 ◼   ► so that was encouraging.

00:06:28 ◼   ► But yeah, I'm going to be ready on Monday.

00:06:30 ◼   ► In fact, the entire Mac Stories team is going to be ready on Monday.

00:06:35 ◼   ► We are still debating this,

00:06:37 ◼   ► so I may be swayed otherwise,

00:06:39 ◼   ► but we are going to have other reviews,

00:06:43 ◼   ► and they're all going to be ready on Monday.

00:06:45 ◼   ► In theory, we're going to have Mac OS, Watch OS, and Vision OS.

00:06:51 ◼   ► We are debating whether they should go out on the same day,

00:06:55 ◼   ► but I'm more leaning towards spacing them out during the week.

00:06:58 ◼   ► Absolutely space them out.

00:07:00 ◼   ► Yeah, yeah.

00:07:03 ◼   ► And again, this will make sense on Monday.

00:07:04 ◼   ► I think it makes more sense to put the spotlight on iOS and iPadOS,

00:07:08 ◼   ► and that review in particular,

00:07:09 ◼   ► not because it's mine, but because of all the other things related to that.

00:07:13 ◼   ► So yeah, but it's going to be a big week on the site.

00:07:17 ◼   ► And yeah, I'm a little bit tired because these final days,

00:07:21 ◼   ► you know, making sure to read everything at night,

00:07:25 ◼   ► adding the last minute changes from the iOS 18 release candidate,

00:07:30 ◼   ► all those things.

00:07:31 ◼   ► But I'll get there,

00:07:32 ◼   ► and I'm feeling quite happy about my work-life balance this year.

00:07:37 ◼   ► So yeah, I'm excited.

00:07:38 ◼   ► I can't wait to start reading it.

00:07:40 ◼   ► I'm really excited to start reading it.

00:07:41 ◼   ► But yeah, I think spreading them out is better for everyone.

00:07:45 ◼   ► It's better for all you guys

00:07:46 ◼   ► because you can focus on staggering your edits and your publishing.

00:07:49 ◼   ► And it's better for your readers

00:07:51 ◼   ► because there's zero reason to get five reviews on one day, right?

00:07:55 ◼   ► Like no one is going to be able to read that.

00:07:57 ◼   ► Like that's just not feasible.

00:08:00 ◼   ► And I think it will be also better for the website.

00:08:03 ◼   ► I just think, yeah, you guys, I don't know.

00:08:04 ◼   ► I wouldn't know how you would stagger them.

00:08:06 ◼   ► Like it seems complicated,

00:08:08 ◼   ► but I think staggering them makes a lot of sense.

00:08:10 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:08:11 ◼   ► Federico, you had this really interesting post on threads

00:08:16 ◼   ► about your feelings about the Pro phone.

00:08:19 ◼   ► We're going to get into all the news in a minute,

00:08:21 ◼   ► but what's going on over there?

00:08:23 ◼   ► Yeah, so the basic idea is that I'm fascinated

00:08:27 ◼   ► by the iPhone 16 non-Pro line.

00:08:31 ◼   ► I had this feeling during the event and I was texting you guys.

00:08:36 ◼   ► Like, I think I'm actually more interested in the iPhone 16

00:08:41 ◼   ► than the iPhone 16 Pro, because

00:08:44 ◼   ► a lot of the demo of the iPhone 16 Pro, those features,

00:08:48 ◼   ► they really focused on professional photographers

00:08:51 ◼   ► and professional video creators, like movie directors,

00:08:55 ◼   ► with all those features that they showed.

00:08:57 ◼   ► And because the camera control button

00:09:00 ◼   ► is also available on the iPhone 16,

00:09:02 ◼   ► I started thinking, well, maybe, you know,

00:09:04 ◼   ► maybe I'm not necessarily a Pro anymore.

00:09:08 ◼   ► And a funny coincidence, just as I was having these thoughts,

00:09:12 ◼   ► Brandon, my co-host on the MPC podcast,

00:09:15 ◼   ► was also having these thoughts

00:09:17 ◼   ► and approached me after the event saying,

00:09:19 ◼   ► "Hey, I wrote a thing about these thoughts

00:09:22 ◼   ► that I'm having about the fact

00:09:24 ◼   ► that maybe I'm not a Pro iPhone user anymore."

00:09:28 ◼   ► And I was like, "Great, we should put this on Mac stories,"

00:09:31 ◼   ► because I've been having the same questions

00:09:34 ◼   ► for the past few hours.

00:09:35 ◼   ► And so I also started thinking,

00:09:40 ◼   ► I actually considered, like, for real,

00:09:43 ◼   ► maybe I'm not going to get a Pro Max.

00:09:45 ◼   ► Maybe I'm just going to get an iPhone 16 Plus.

00:09:48 ◼   ► Because there's also the angle of...

00:09:53 ◼   ► Maybe it would be good for me to be...

00:09:56 ◼   ► Well, you guys know I've always been a man of the people,

00:09:58 ◼   ► obviously.

00:10:00 ◼   ► Listeners of the show know me as a man of the people.

00:10:03 ◼   ► They know you that way.

00:10:05 ◼   ► I am the representative, you know?

00:10:08 ◼   ► They look up to me.

00:10:10 ◼   ► They know that I'm one of them.

00:10:12 ◼   ► How many handheld gaming PCs do you have on your desk

00:10:14 ◼   ► right now just out of interest?

00:10:16 ◼   ► Because I know that relates you to the people.

00:10:17 ◼   ► On my desk, I joke on you, on my desk, zero.

00:10:20 ◼   ► Oh, that yellow one.

00:10:22 ◼   ► Joke is on me, yes.

00:10:24 ◼   ► What about the lighted shelves above your desk?

00:10:27 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:10:30 ◼   ► -Steven. -Yes.

00:10:32 ◼   ► Stop it. I am a man of the people.

00:10:34 ◼   ► Why are you trying to take him away from the people?

00:10:36 ◼   ► I'm a man of the people from the '90s, you know?

00:10:38 ◼   ► Swimming in performance over here.

00:10:40 ◼   ► Right, right, right, right, right.

00:10:42 ◼   ► But seriously, I thought, well, it would be interesting

00:10:45 ◼   ► to try and use a model of an iPhone

00:10:50 ◼   ► that lots of people are going to buy.

00:10:53 ◼   ► But obviously, before making such decision,

00:10:55 ◼   ► I wanted to test the waters a little bit.

00:10:58 ◼   ► So I posted on threads that there is a way

00:11:01 ◼   ► to sort of fake your way into checking

00:11:04 ◼   ► whether a non-Pro iPhone,

00:11:06 ◼   ► after many years of Pro iPhone, could be good for you.

00:11:10 ◼   ► So what I did was I disabled ProMotion.

00:11:16 ◼   ► You can do this in accessibility settings.

00:11:19 ◼   ► You just limit the frame rate of an iPhone,

00:11:24 ◼   ► and that's going to kick it down to 60 hertz

00:11:27 ◼   ► instead of 120 hertz.

00:11:28 ◼   ► Steven, you do this, don't you?

00:11:30 ◼   ► Steven does this.

00:11:31 ◼   ► Yeah, I've had ProMotion off the whole time.

00:11:33 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:11:35 ◼   ► And I also turned off the always-on display,

00:11:40 ◼   ► which is also something you can do in display

00:11:42 ◼   ► and brightness in settings.

00:11:43 ◼   ► Now, let me tell you guys, I lasted about an hour.

00:11:48 ◼   ► I'm glad I did it, because at the very least,

00:11:51 ◼   ► I no longer have any doubts.

00:11:52 ◼   ► I depend on ProMotion and the always-on display

00:11:56 ◼   ► a lot more than I initially thought.

00:11:59 ◼   ► Like, I thought, "Well, yeah, I'm going to be fine,

00:12:01 ◼   ► you know, with 60 hertz and no always-on display."

00:12:05 ◼   ► I never used them, really.

00:12:06 ◼   ► Turns out that going back to 60 hertz

00:12:10 ◼   ► was kind of making me motion sick.

00:12:13 ◼   ► Like, people have the opposite problem.

00:12:18 ◼   ► Everything was so slow.

00:12:19 ◼   ► Like, it's not just the animations,

00:12:22 ◼   ► like, the fluidity of the display.

00:12:25 ◼   ► Just, like, using iOS was slower.

00:12:29 ◼   ► Like, just every gesture, every animation,

00:12:32 ◼   ► every transition was slower.

00:12:35 ◼   ► And I was so bothered, also,

00:12:38 ◼   ► by not being able to see the time and my notifications,

00:12:42 ◼   ► not even the widgets, but the notifications

00:12:44 ◼   ► and the live activities.

00:12:45 ◼   ► Man, it was killing me.

00:12:47 ◼   ► So I lasted about an hour.

00:12:48 ◼   ► And at the very least, now I know.

00:12:50 ◼   ► I don't have that lingering doubt in my mind.

00:12:53 ◼   ► I'm a pro iPhone person, and it's fine.

00:12:56 ◼   ► I tried.

00:12:57 ◼   ► And so that's why I am going to stick with the 16 Pro Max.

00:13:01 ◼   ► I'm debating on the color.

00:13:03 ◼   ► I'm glad I did this experiment.

00:13:05 ◼   ► I think this year, much more than in previous years,

00:13:08 ◼   ► the 16 and the 16 Plus are going to be great phones

00:13:11 ◼   ► for a lot of people, especially if--

00:13:13 ◼   ► - The colors, man.

00:13:15 ◼   ► - The colors are incredible. - The colors.

00:13:16 ◼   ► My God, they're so good.

00:13:18 ◼   ► - The ultramarine, oof.

00:13:20 ◼   ► - All of them.

00:13:21 ◼   ► Like, seriously, the three. - The pink.

00:13:23 ◼   ► - The pink, the teal, and the ultramarine.

00:13:26 ◼   ► But yeah, the ultramarine is like, wow,

00:13:28 ◼   ► that is a good-looking phone.

00:13:30 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah.

00:13:31 ◼   ► So I'm glad I did this trial,

00:13:33 ◼   ► even though it was very brief, but now I know.

00:13:36 ◼   ► And the people will understand.

00:13:38 ◼   ► I am still a man of the people.

00:13:41 ◼   ► But, you know, the way that this works

00:13:45 ◼   ► is that to be a man of the people,

00:13:48 ◼   ► you have to be, I don't know what I'm saying.

00:13:51 ◼   ► Maybe I'm not.

00:13:52 ◼   ► - The wheels really fell off on that one.

00:13:53 ◼   ► I'll just jump in and say,

00:13:56 ◼   ► Apple should not be selling a phone

00:13:57 ◼   ► with a 60 hertz screen at this point.

00:14:00 ◼   ► That phone should be 90.

00:14:02 ◼   ► That should be 90.

00:14:03 ◼   ► Like, 100.

00:14:03 ◼   ► I mean, honestly, I think it should be 120,

00:14:05 ◼   ► but if they're not gonna do that,

00:14:06 ◼   ► like, this phone should be 90 hertz.

00:14:09 ◼   ► Like, it should offer that.

00:14:10 ◼   ► It's an $800 smartphone.

00:14:12 ◼   ► Like, that's just not good anymore.

00:14:16 ◼   ► Like, I think a 60 hertz screen is just,

00:14:19 ◼   ► we've passed that at this point.

00:14:21 ◼   ► We've passed it at this point.

00:14:23 ◼   ► - It is September.

00:14:25 ◼   ► That means it is St. Jude time around these parts.

00:14:29 ◼   ► Mike, tell us a little bit about what we're doing.

00:14:33 ◼   ► - So every September, we come together as a community

00:14:36 ◼   ► during the month of September,

00:14:37 ◼   ► because of Childhood Cancer Awareness Month.

00:14:39 ◼   ► The relay community is coming out in full force again

00:14:42 ◼   ► as we are raising money for the kids of St. Jude.

00:14:46 ◼   ► We have, as of today, incredibly,

00:14:49 ◼   ► passed $300,000 raised for the kids of St. Jude

00:14:54 ◼   ► just in this year,

00:14:55 ◼   ► which has put us significantly over the $3 million now

00:15:00 ◼   ► that we have raised as a community

00:15:01 ◼   ► since we started this five years ago.

00:15:04 ◼   ► And we do this for a very simple reason.

00:15:06 ◼   ► Like, St. Jude Children's Research Hospital

00:15:09 ◼   ► is an incredible place that makes the families

00:15:12 ◼   ► and the children who are affected by cancer

00:15:15 ◼   ► and other life-threatening diseases,

00:15:17 ◼   ► it makes their lives better.

00:15:18 ◼   ► It saves lives.

00:15:19 ◼   ► And also, because they are a research institution

00:15:22 ◼   ► as well as a hospital,

00:15:24 ◼   ► they are able to use the information

00:15:26 ◼   ► and the research that they get

00:15:27 ◼   ► from treating these sick kids,

00:15:30 ◼   ► and they share that with the world.

00:15:33 ◼   ► And the best part of St. Jude,

00:15:35 ◼   ► and one of the key reasons why we come together

00:15:38 ◼   ► to raise money for them every year,

00:15:40 ◼   ► is because they make no family pay for anything.

00:15:44 ◼   ► You do not pay for bills, you do not pay for food,

00:15:47 ◼   ► you do not pay for housing.

00:15:48 ◼   ► They provide those things for you if you need them.

00:15:52 ◼   ► And something that we got to see

00:15:53 ◼   ► when we were on campus last year,

00:15:56 ◼   ► well, we got to see the outside of it,

00:15:58 ◼   ► there's a very special building called Family Commons,

00:16:01 ◼   ► which is a 45,000 square foot space

00:16:04 ◼   ► that has been built on campus just for families,

00:16:07 ◼   ► because one of the things that St. Jude knows is important

00:16:10 ◼   ► is that having the space to be a kid,

00:16:15 ◼   ► not just a patient, is incredibly, incredibly important.

00:16:21 ◼   ► Like, Steven, I know that you had a little bit

00:16:23 ◼   ► to do with that, right?

00:16:24 ◼   ► You had a little bit to play.

00:16:25 ◼   ► Like, I think Mary did, right?

00:16:27 ◼   ► She was-- - Mary did.

00:16:27 ◼   ► Yeah, my much cooler spouse.

00:16:31 ◼   ► Yeah, I mean, this has been,

00:16:32 ◼   ► Family Commons was a big deal to take part of the hospital

00:16:35 ◼   ► and make it not part of a hospital.

00:16:38 ◼   ► And so there's creator space, art space,

00:16:41 ◼   ► and she was on a small commission to help shape that

00:16:45 ◼   ► from a parent perspective, 'cause our son is a survivor.

00:16:50 ◼   ► He was a St. Jude patient as a baby.

00:16:52 ◼   ► But Mike, I do have a correction for you.

00:16:55 ◼   ► - Oh, oh, did I say something wrong?

00:16:56 ◼   ► - If you go to stjude.org/relay, you will see,

00:16:59 ◼   ► we are now at $407,000 raised.

00:17:03 ◼   ► - Okay, then, well.

00:17:05 ◼   ► - 400. - You'll have to displace

00:17:06 ◼   ► $100,000, what happened?

00:17:08 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah, it has been an incredible day for fundraising.

00:17:12 ◼   ► We've had two really large gifts.

00:17:12 ◼   ► - We've raised over 200 grand today.

00:17:14 ◼   ► - Today, it's awesome.

00:17:16 ◼   ► And here's what's so cool about St. Jude.

00:17:19 ◼   ► I mean, amongst all the other things that you mentioned,

00:17:21 ◼   ► is that it is something that we can all be a part of.

00:17:25 ◼   ► You know, we've had a couple of really large gifts today,

00:17:27 ◼   ► and that is so incredible and humbling, like very exciting.

00:17:31 ◼   ► But people from all around the world support St. Jude,

00:17:35 ◼   ► and it takes all of us to keep its doors open,

00:17:38 ◼   ► because this work is really expensive, and they give it away.

00:17:43 ◼   ► They've never charged me a dime for my son's treatment,

00:17:46 ◼   ► and he has been there since he was six months of age.

00:17:48 ◼   ► He's getting ready to be 16.

00:17:50 ◼   ► I've never gotten a bill for food,

00:17:53 ◼   ► never gotten a bill for his care.

00:17:55 ◼   ► If we had to travel, St. Jude happens to be my hometown,

00:17:57 ◼   ► but if we had to travel, I would not be charged for that.

00:18:00 ◼   ► It's absolutely, absolutely incredible,

00:18:04 ◼   ► and it's all thanks to you.

00:18:05 ◼   ► - So, two anonymous gifts of $100,000 in one day

00:18:11 ◼   ► is an incredible thing to occur, right?

00:18:14 ◼   ► And that is not lost on us,

00:18:17 ◼   ► that there are people in our community,

00:18:19 ◼   ► these are people in our community who are deciding

00:18:22 ◼   ► that they want to give that amount of money

00:18:25 ◼   ► to support this cause.

00:18:29 ◼   ► - That is a truly unbelievable and inspiring thing,

00:18:32 ◼   ► but the thing that we hear consistently

00:18:36 ◼   ► from our partners at St. Jude

00:18:39 ◼   ► that makes our campaign so important

00:18:42 ◼   ► is the amount of people that donate

00:18:45 ◼   ► to get to the money that we get to.

00:18:48 ◼   ► There are so many thousands of listeners

00:18:51 ◼   ► who have made donations of all sizes to this campaign,

00:18:55 ◼   ► and that means there are more thousands of people

00:18:59 ◼   ► who are aware and are getting on board with the message.

00:19:03 ◼   ► It's so important.

00:19:04 ◼   ► Wherever you are able to donate $5 or $50,000,

00:19:09 ◼   ► it doesn't matter, that money is all going into

00:19:14 ◼   ► the funds that are needed to save these children's lives

00:19:18 ◼   ► and to save the lives of countless children in the future.

00:19:22 ◼   ► That is why we do this.

00:19:24 ◼   ► - One of the things that a lot of campaigns have,

00:19:28 ◼   ► like a lot of the campaigns that we see,

00:19:30 ◼   ► and that everybody will see,

00:19:31 ◼   ► that other content creators put together,

00:19:33 ◼   ► they have very large corporate donors.

00:19:35 ◼   ► We don't have that.

00:19:36 ◼   ► We get to this money because of the generosity

00:19:41 ◼   ► of our audience.

00:19:42 ◼   ► We're very lucky, I think,

00:19:44 ◼   ► that there are a number of people in our audience

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00:19:52 ◼   ► It's an incredible thing that makes our community

00:19:55 ◼   ► push further.

00:19:57 ◼   ► It's why we're able to have raised $3 million in five years.

00:20:01 ◼   ► But these large donations,

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00:20:08 ◼   ► So whatever you have to give,

00:20:11 ◼   ► please go to stjood.org/relay

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00:20:31 ◼   ► - Oh, man, what a day.

00:20:35 ◼   ► - Yeah.

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00:23:09 ◼   ► The Rickies is a game connected hosts play

00:23:13 ◼   ► before Apple Keynotes in the beginning of a new year,

00:23:16 ◼   ► trying to predict future events.

00:23:18 ◼   ► It is made up of three rounds.

00:23:20 ◼   ► Each host makes two regular picks followed by a risky pick.

00:23:24 ◼   ► There are two types of Rickies.

00:23:26 ◼   ► Today we are playing the Keynote Rickies.

00:23:28 ◼   ► The Keynote Rickies winner is named the Keynote Chairman.

00:23:31 ◼   ► This position is held until the next keynote.

00:23:34 ◼   ► Hosts should be introduced at the top of each episode

00:23:36 ◼   ► according to their current titles.

00:23:38 ◼   ► In the event that a host has both positions,

00:23:42 ◼   ► they shall be introduced as the Ricky Benchmen.

00:23:44 ◼   ► If so, if Mike wins today, he'll be the Ricky Benchman.

00:23:48 ◼   ► First ever, first annual Ricky Benchman.

00:23:50 ◼   ► - Let's go.

00:23:52 ◼   ► - After the Rickies, the hosts then play a game

00:23:55 ◼   ► called the Flexies.

00:23:56 ◼   ► These two games are separate, but related.

00:23:58 ◼   ► Please stand for the reading of the rules.

00:24:01 ◼   ► Each host gets to make two regular picks.

00:24:11 ◼   ► Hosts can be granted a bonus regular pick

00:24:14 ◼   ► for any previously incorrect pick that has now come true

00:24:17 ◼   ► from the last three corresponding games.

00:24:20 ◼   ► A previously incorrect pick may be used only once.

00:24:24 ◼   ► Correct regular picks are awarded one point.

00:24:27 ◼   ► The language used for regular picks must be finalized

00:24:30 ◼   ► and agreed upon during recording,

00:24:32 ◼   ► and no partial points may be awarded.

00:24:34 ◼   ► Risky picks have a more complex scoring system.

00:24:38 ◼   ► Each host must make a pick comprising of three conditions.

00:24:42 ◼   ► If you get all three conditions correct,

00:24:44 ◼   ► you earn two points.

00:24:46 ◼   ► If you get two conditions correct, you earn one point.

00:24:48 ◼   ► And if you get one condition correct, you get zero points.

00:24:52 ◼   ► If you get all three wrong, you lose a point.

00:24:55 ◼   ► Think about that.

00:24:58 ◼   ► Picks must have been approved as risky

00:25:00 ◼   ► by the other two hosts before the start of the game.

00:25:02 ◼   ► Picks made for keynote Rickies cannot be reused

00:25:05 ◼   ► by the host who made them for the next keynote.

00:25:08 ◼   ► For keynote Rickies, the scoring window starts

00:25:10 ◼   ► when the live stream begins

00:25:12 ◼   ► and closes when the picks are scored, 'cause right now.

00:25:16 ◼   ► Any information used in scoring must be publicly verifiable

00:25:20 ◼   ► at the time of recording.

00:25:21 ◼   ► All hosts are allowed to reuse picks

00:25:24 ◼   ► previously made by others.

00:25:25 ◼   ► Scoring is completed during recording

00:25:28 ◼   ► and cannot be modified once an episode is complete.

00:25:31 ◼   ► In the event of a tie, dice by Peacock

00:25:34 ◼   ► must be used in relay mode to pick a winner.

00:25:37 ◼   ► In the case of a three-way tie,

00:25:38 ◼   ► hosts all make their calls at the same time

00:25:42 ◼   ► with flipping continuing until a winner is named.

00:25:46 ◼   ► Jason Snell- - That feels new to me.

00:25:47 ◼   ► I don't remember that rule.

00:25:50 ◼   ► - Yeah, we're gonna keep flipping coins

00:25:52 ◼   ► until morale improves.

00:25:53 ◼   ► Jason Snell has a lifetime ban on flipping any coins

00:25:58 ◼   ► in relation to the Rickies.

00:25:59 ◼   ► Coin flips by Jason on other podcasts are allowed,

00:26:04 ◼   ► but are frowned upon and subject to public shaming.

00:26:08 ◼   ► The order of the picks is set by previous performance.

00:26:10 ◼   ► The winner of the previous associated game goes first.

00:26:13 ◼   ► That was me this time.

00:26:14 ◼   ► The previous loser goes last.

00:26:16 ◼   ► Winners will be recognized during the closing ceremonies.

00:26:20 ◼   ► As a reminder, Mike is the current annual chairman.

00:26:23 ◼   ► I am the current keynote chairman.

00:26:25 ◼   ► Past results can be seen at Rickies.co and Rickies.net.

00:26:28 ◼   ► These sites also have pages

00:26:30 ◼   ► about managing your own scorekeeping at home.

00:26:33 ◼   ► You may be seated.

00:26:34 ◼   ► (phone ringing)

00:26:35 ◼   ► - So I think we start at the beginning.

00:26:38 ◼   ► I think we start with round one.

00:26:39 ◼   ► - It's a good place to start.

00:26:40 ◼   ► - I think so.

00:26:42 ◼   ► I said the iPhone 16 Pro gains 5X Zoom.

00:26:47 ◼   ► Are we doing the bell thing?

00:26:51 ◼   ► - Well, we can do the bell, but I don't want to hum.

00:26:55 ◼   ► - People don't like the humming.

00:26:56 ◼   ► - No, so we can do the bell,

00:26:59 ◼   ► but you have to change Zoom settings to do the bell.

00:27:01 ◼   ► So what I think you should just do now is just say ding.

00:27:04 ◼   ► I think that is a better way to just do it.

00:27:07 ◼   ► - Let me try that again.

00:27:07 ◼   ► - You get the essence of a bill.

00:27:09 ◼   ► - You get the full experience.

00:27:12 ◼   ► I said the iPhone 16 Pro gains a 5X Zoom.

00:27:16 ◼   ► Ding.

00:27:17 ◼   ► - That's a perfect bell.

00:27:19 ◼   ► Great place.

00:27:19 ◼   ► Yeah, it did.

00:27:22 ◼   ► I'm happy that this happened.

00:27:24 ◼   ► - I feel like this radically shifts the relationship

00:27:27 ◼   ► between these two phones.

00:27:30 ◼   ► - Well, I mean, I think that's the story.

00:27:32 ◼   ► I mean, you mentioned it earlier, right?

00:27:33 ◼   ► Federico mentioned it earlier with the camera control,

00:27:37 ◼   ► which is a, that is going to take some time

00:27:39 ◼   ► to bed in that phrase rather than capture button.

00:27:42 ◼   ► - Oh, I know.

00:27:43 ◼   ► - Just in general this year,

00:27:45 ◼   ► the entire lineup is closer to each other than normal.

00:27:48 ◼   ► And I think that's probably good.

00:27:52 ◼   ► So people can just make their own decisions

00:27:54 ◼   ► based on what will be the smaller differences

00:27:56 ◼   ► between all the phones.

00:27:58 ◼   ► But yeah, the two Pro phones getting closer together again.

00:28:02 ◼   ► I think what it does show is the reason

00:28:07 ◼   ► that the 5X Zoom was just on the Pro Max last year

00:28:09 ◼   ► was purely space.

00:28:11 ◼   ► And it wasn't an indication that they were trying

00:28:15 ◼   ► to split them apart again.

00:28:17 ◼   ► Because we'd had that, right?

00:28:18 ◼   ► And then they came together and they were,

00:28:20 ◼   ► both sizes were kind of the same for a while.

00:28:22 ◼   ► And then the 5X Zoom was a change

00:28:25 ◼   ► that we hadn't seen in a bit.

00:28:27 ◼   ► And so, but I think that it was purely

00:28:29 ◼   ► because it was an engineering challenge

00:28:30 ◼   ► that they wanted to wait another year

00:28:31 ◼   ► to try and squeeze it all in to the Pro.

00:28:34 ◼   ► So, it's cool though.

00:28:36 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah, good pick.

00:28:38 ◼   ► Are you gonna buy one, Steven?

00:28:39 ◼   ► Are you gonna get a 16 Pro or Pro Max?

00:28:42 ◼   ► - Well, we have a whole section about that

00:28:43 ◼   ► later in the outline.

00:28:45 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:28:46 ◼   ► - Called, what are we buying?

00:28:47 ◼   ► - There's a lot of foreshadowing in today's episode.

00:28:49 ◼   ► Just a very foreshadowing focused episode.

00:28:51 ◼   ► - It is.

00:28:51 ◼   ► - Okay, so my round one pick,

00:28:55 ◼   ► I said all the iPhones announced support Apple intelligence.

00:29:00 ◼   ► Ding! - Ding!

00:29:02 ◼   ► - Wait, are you the bell?

00:29:04 ◼   ► - Am I the bell?

00:29:05 ◼   ► Aren't we all?

00:29:06 ◼   ► - I think you can bell yourself.

00:29:08 ◼   ► - I think you should bell yourself.

00:29:10 ◼   ► - I think we're all like, each respective bell, you know?

00:29:14 ◼   ► - But don't bell too much, 'cause you might go blind.

00:29:17 ◼   ► - Yeah, sure.

00:29:19 ◼   ► All the iPhones support Apple intelligence.

00:29:24 ◼   ► We knew this, well, we thought we knew this

00:29:28 ◼   ► and it was correct.

00:29:29 ◼   ► All the iPhones have the A18 as a baseline,

00:29:32 ◼   ► and of course the Pro models have the A18 Pro.

00:29:36 ◼   ► Apple wants to get Apple intelligence

00:29:38 ◼   ► in the hands of as many people as possible,

00:29:40 ◼   ► so I would expect going forward,

00:29:42 ◼   ► all new Apple devices will support Apple intelligence.

00:29:47 ◼   ► But in this case, the 16 and the 16 Plus, they will.

00:29:51 ◼   ► And I mean, not that I'm gonna take advantage of it,

00:29:55 ◼   ► because I'm in Europe, but it will become available

00:29:58 ◼   ► for people in the US next month.

00:30:00 ◼   ► - I still think we will get it one day.

00:30:02 ◼   ► I don't, I just, it will happen.

00:30:06 ◼   ► Europe will get it, you will use it

00:30:08 ◼   ► as a different conversation, but I think that it,

00:30:11 ◼   ► I think it is in Apple's interest, right?

00:30:13 ◼   ► Like they will want to do this,

00:30:15 ◼   ► but I don't know why long it's gonna take.

00:30:16 ◼   ► - Oh, now don't you know that they should exit

00:30:19 ◼   ► the European market?

00:30:21 ◼   ► Didn't you know that was the theory?

00:30:23 ◼   ► - I know it's something people say.

00:30:25 ◼   ► I don't think I agree with the sentiment.

00:30:29 ◼   ► Steven made a point in his blog post

00:30:34 ◼   ► that I thought was interesting,

00:30:35 ◼   ► and I know I felt the same,

00:30:37 ◼   ► which like when they were talking about the Pro chip,

00:30:40 ◼   ► it kind of felt like they were gearing up to say something

00:30:44 ◼   ► that these phones would have

00:30:46 ◼   ► that was different in Apple intelligence,

00:30:47 ◼   ► but that didn't seem to come to pass,

00:30:49 ◼   ► that like, it seems like at least for now,

00:30:52 ◼   ► unless I'm remembering incorrectly,

00:30:54 ◼   ► that all of the Apple intelligence features

00:30:58 ◼   ► are for all phones.

00:30:59 ◼   ► Now there are machine learning powered features,

00:31:03 ◼   ► which are just on the Pro,

00:31:04 ◼   ► like I think the photographic styles counts, right?

00:31:07 ◼   ► Like the photographic styles requires the Pro chip,

00:31:12 ◼   ► I think, maybe?

00:31:15 ◼   ► I don't know anymore, but.

00:31:17 ◼   ► - It's confusing, you know?

00:31:20 ◼   ► They were not clear about these things.

00:31:21 ◼   ► - Yes, there aren't any Apple intelligence features

00:31:24 ◼   ► that appear to be just for the Pro phone,

00:31:27 ◼   ► which it does not surprise really,

00:31:29 ◼   ► 'cause they haven't got a lot, yeah?

00:31:32 ◼   ► But that will change, I'm sure,

00:31:34 ◼   ► but at least it hasn't now.

00:31:36 ◼   ► - Maybe the like generated text

00:31:40 ◼   ► will be better written on a Pro phone.

00:31:43 ◼   ► And like there'll be some typos in the non-Pro phone.

00:31:46 ◼   ► I mean, there is a possibility that things will be faster

00:31:49 ◼   ► and/or better on the different chips.

00:31:51 ◼   ► - I think it'll definitely be faster,

00:31:53 ◼   ► but they didn't even really talk about that.

00:31:54 ◼   ► It just, it really felt like they were teeing something up

00:31:57 ◼   ► and just didn't deliver.

00:32:00 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:32:01 ◼   ► - All right, well, speaking of chips, Mike.

00:32:04 ◼   ► - Yeah, Apple introduces a faster chip for the iPhone.

00:32:08 ◼   ► Ding, they did it for all of them.

00:32:10 ◼   ► They have an A18 and an A18 Pro.

00:32:14 ◼   ► - I wonder if this is what it is now.

00:32:16 ◼   ► The chip stuff has gotten complicated with them

00:32:21 ◼   ► in the last few years,

00:32:23 ◼   ► like especially all the three nanometer stuff.

00:32:25 ◼   ► Like these are three nanometer,

00:32:26 ◼   ► but they're different to the previous three nanometer chips,

00:32:28 ◼   ► right, 'cause I think this is the M4 architecture, Steven,

00:32:31 ◼   ► is that correct?

00:32:32 ◼   ► Like it's the same architecture as on the M4?

00:32:34 ◼   ► - It seems like it.

00:32:35 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:32:36 ◼   ► - I think we'll know once these phones

00:32:37 ◼   ► are in the hands of people who have--

00:32:39 ◼   ► - Benchmark them and stuff.

00:32:40 ◼   ► - Yeah, but it seems like, you know,

00:32:42 ◼   ► the M3 and the A17 Pro were on

00:32:46 ◼   ► the first three nanometer process,

00:32:48 ◼   ► and it basically seems like that three nanometer process

00:32:51 ◼   ► was a bit of a dead end

00:32:53 ◼   ► and wasn't like the long-term game plan for three nanometer.

00:32:57 ◼   ► And so it seems like this is that evolved process

00:33:02 ◼   ► that the M4 is on.

00:33:04 ◼   ► I would assume they wanna get there as quickly as possible.

00:33:06 ◼   ► And, you know, we haven't seen the high-end M3 chips.

00:33:09 ◼   ► It seems like they're gonna skip over the,

00:33:11 ◼   ► what is it, the max and ultra at the top of the line,

00:33:13 ◼   ► or the ultra, I guess, at the top of the line.

00:33:15 ◼   ► So definitely a bit of a weird moment in chip land, I think.

00:33:20 ◼   ► But exciting, I mean, their foot is on the gas, definitely.

00:33:24 ◼   ► - Yeah, I will say it is getting,

00:33:27 ◼   ► it is getting harder to track these chips over time

00:33:34 ◼   ► because like two to three times a year

00:33:38 ◼   ► we're taking a visit to the chip lab

00:33:42 ◼   ► and they're talking to us about performance cores,

00:33:45 ◼   ► efficiency cores, neural engine.

00:33:47 ◼   ► And like, I have gotten to the point

00:33:50 ◼   ► where they could tell me the same thing each time

00:33:54 ◼   ► and I wouldn't know anymore.

00:33:57 ◼   ► Like it has got, 'cause at first,

00:33:59 ◼   ► like the first year or two, they were very big gains

00:34:02 ◼   ► and it was all new and interesting, right?

00:34:05 ◼   ► But now, like it is incredible that they are

00:34:07 ◼   ► on an annual basis producing more powerful chips,

00:34:11 ◼   ► but the returns are getting smaller

00:34:13 ◼   ► and the architecture is,

00:34:15 ◼   ► like on the face of it to someone like me,

00:34:17 ◼   ► it seems similar-ish, right?

00:34:20 ◼   ► And like, and I hear different configurations

00:34:22 ◼   ► of performance cores and efficiency cores

00:34:24 ◼   ► on different machines.

00:34:25 ◼   ► I think I've kind of gotten to the point

00:34:28 ◼   ► where like the time spent in the chip lab

00:34:32 ◼   ► is becoming complicated and confusing, especially because,

00:34:35 ◼   ► and I understand why they do it 'cause it's marketing,

00:34:37 ◼   ► like the comparisons Apple make

00:34:40 ◼   ► aren't always the ones you think they're gonna make, right?

00:34:43 ◼   ► Where they're like, this is four times faster

00:34:46 ◼   ► than like a different phone to the one you think

00:34:48 ◼   ► we're gonna talk about right now.

00:34:50 ◼   ► You know what I mean?

00:34:51 ◼   ► Like, and I understand why they do that.

00:34:52 ◼   ► It makes perfect sense.

00:34:54 ◼   ► They shouldn't, you know, and I follow the idea of like,

00:34:57 ◼   ► year over year comparisons are unrealistic

00:35:00 ◼   ► to the majority of people that they're talking to anyway.

00:35:03 ◼   ► So like, I get that,

00:35:04 ◼   ► but this is just like building this case of like,

00:35:06 ◼   ► the time spent in the chip lab for me now

00:35:09 ◼   ► is becoming like just of interest,

00:35:13 ◼   ► but I don't really feel like I can do anything

00:35:14 ◼   ► with the information that I received from that personally.

00:35:17 ◼   ► - I do wonder if there's, you know, I said this on NPU,

00:35:26 ◼   ► like it's hard to draw lines from as few dots as we have.

00:35:30 ◼   ► Like we had this period where the non-pro phone

00:35:33 ◼   ► had an old chip in it.

00:35:35 ◼   ► And now we have this where it's like a normal version

00:35:37 ◼   ► and a pro version.

00:35:38 ◼   ► They're probably just bend versions of the same chip

00:35:40 ◼   ► if I had to guess or, you know,

00:35:42 ◼   ► tweaked versions of the same chip.

00:35:44 ◼   ► And like, is this now like what you said,

00:35:46 ◼   ► is this now the pattern going forward?

00:35:49 ◼   ► I tend to think that it is because of Apple intelligence.

00:35:53 ◼   ► Like if you look at the 15 range,

00:35:56 ◼   ► the iPhone 15 and 15 plus don't run Apple intelligence

00:35:58 ◼   ► because they had a year old chip a year ago, right?

00:36:02 ◼   ► And that causes all sorts of weirdness with that phone.

00:36:04 ◼   ► Like, I think that's a blemish on the iPhone 15's record,

00:36:08 ◼   ► historically, like only the pro ones got this new feature.

00:36:12 ◼   ► And so maybe they're going to be more conservative

00:36:14 ◼   ► in terms of like future proofing.

00:36:16 ◼   ► Maybe they just need the horsepower for the AI stuff.

00:36:18 ◼   ► Whatever happened, it seems clear at least

00:36:22 ◼   ► that the road they were on had to change

00:36:26 ◼   ► because of Apple intelligence

00:36:27 ◼   ► and the 15 kind of lost out because of that.

00:36:30 ◼   ► It's just, this is really interesting.

00:36:32 ◼   ► We have another player here this week.

00:36:36 ◼   ► - The screen on the iPhone 16 Pro Max

00:36:42 ◼   ► will increase to at least 6.9 inches.

00:36:47 ◼   ► - Indeed, ChatGPT.

00:36:48 ◼   ► Strong start for the robot.

00:36:51 ◼   ► - It actually is.

00:36:53 ◼   ► I think that's a strong, it's pretty strong.

00:36:56 ◼   ► Like it nailed it.

00:36:57 ◼   ► This 6.9 inches is the size of the screen.

00:37:01 ◼   ► Big screen, both big screens now.

00:37:03 ◼   ► - Big screen.

00:37:05 ◼   ► - Big screen, was it 6.3 and 6.9?

00:37:07 ◼   ► Like the small phone is not small anymore.

00:37:11 ◼   ► Then both phones got bigger and heavier.

00:37:14 ◼   ► What do you guys think about that?

00:37:15 ◼   ► Bigger, heavier, bigger screens?

00:37:18 ◼   ► - What do I think?

00:37:19 ◼   ► I mean, I still want the biggest screen possible

00:37:24 ◼   ► so it'll have to work somehow.

00:37:28 ◼   ► - Is there a point though?

00:37:31 ◼   ► It's hard to say 'cause we haven't used it, right?

00:37:35 ◼   ► But like, I've got to think that 6.9,

00:37:38 ◼   ► we're getting to the point now, like where it's like,

00:37:41 ◼   ► we might be past it now.

00:37:44 ◼   ► We may have actually passed it where that big phone

00:37:46 ◼   ► has maybe hit the comfort limit for the fast,

00:37:50 ◼   ► like has exceeded the comfort limit

00:37:52 ◼   ► for the vast majority of people that would use it.

00:37:54 ◼   ► - Simply, yes, yeah.

00:37:58 ◼   ► - I had a word come to mind.

00:38:01 ◼   ► Remember phablet?

00:38:03 ◼   ► - Oh yeah.

00:38:05 ◼   ► - And how big, remember how big the 6 Plus seemed

00:38:08 ◼   ► and Mike was right about the size?

00:38:11 ◼   ► This phone dwarfs that phone.

00:38:13 ◼   ► Like it is next, I mean, we've been creeping up

00:38:16 ◼   ► but this one seems next level.

00:38:18 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's always a fun thing

00:38:21 ◼   ► but like the iPhone 6 Plus's screen was 5.5 inches.

00:38:26 ◼   ► Like that was the screen size.

00:38:30 ◼   ► I looked this up the other day

00:38:31 ◼   ► but the iPhone 12 mini was 5.4.

00:38:33 ◼   ► Like that's the world we're in, you know?

00:38:37 ◼   ► But of course the dimensions of the phone

00:38:40 ◼   ► is what made it bigger

00:38:41 ◼   ► 'cause it wasn't edge to edge screen back then, was it?

00:38:44 ◼   ► But what I am actually interested in,

00:38:47 ◼   ► if I take a look at the physical sizes, right?

00:38:51 ◼   ► Like, yeah, so the 6 Plus was 158 millimeters in height

00:38:56 ◼   ► and 77 millimeters wide.

00:39:01 ◼   ► The iPhone 16 is 147 millimeters high

00:39:05 ◼   ► and 71 millimeters wide.

00:39:07 ◼   ► So the Plus was only like 11 millimeters taller

00:39:12 ◼   ► and seven millimeters wider

00:39:14 ◼   ► than the current standard smallest phone in the new lineup.

00:39:18 ◼   ► - That's wild.

00:39:19 ◼   ► - That's crazy, right?

00:39:21 ◼   ► That's, yeah.

00:39:23 ◼   ► I don't know, you know, I spoke about it.

00:39:27 ◼   ► I'm thinking about a smaller phone

00:39:29 ◼   ► and the fact that this one went to 6.3,

00:39:31 ◼   ► it's like, yeah, like I think the smaller phone

00:39:33 ◼   ► is now big enough for most people.

00:39:36 ◼   ► I've actually heard from quite a few listeners

00:39:37 ◼   ► who were like, you know, I was thinking about this too.

00:39:40 ◼   ► So that's just the world that we're in.

00:39:41 ◼   ► So good work, ChatGPT.

00:39:43 ◼   ► At the end of round one, we all have one point.

00:39:45 ◼   ► - Here we go.

00:39:49 ◼   ► - Round two.

00:39:50 ◼   ► The iPhone 16 and 16 Pro are larger than their predecessors.

00:39:57 ◼   ► - Oh, Steven.

00:40:00 ◼   ► - You messed up, didn't you?

00:40:01 ◼   ► - I blew it.

00:40:01 ◼   ► So here's, Mike, you texted me the other night

00:40:06 ◼   ► and said, hey, what happened with this pic?

00:40:09 ◼   ► What I swore I had in the document

00:40:12 ◼   ► was 16 Pro and 16 Pro Max, but I didn't have that.

00:40:15 ◼   ► I said 16 and 16 Pro.

00:40:17 ◼   ► And as it is written, you know,

00:40:20 ◼   ► so let it be written, so let it be picked.

00:40:22 ◼   ► And so I get it wrong.

00:40:23 ◼   ► - Why didn't we say anything?

00:40:26 ◼   ► - This is the-- - 'Cause you were

00:40:27 ◼   ► sabotaging me. - What is that called?

00:40:29 ◼   ► No, the Berenstain Bears.

00:40:30 ◼   ► What is that called, that effect?

00:40:32 ◼   ► You know, like when, Mandela effect.

00:40:34 ◼   ► We Mandela affected this, I think.

00:40:36 ◼   ► Or something like that.

00:40:37 ◼   ► Because I am convinced that when you said it,

00:40:41 ◼   ► we were all sure that you said,

00:40:45 ◼   ► and we all thought you were talking about

00:40:47 ◼   ► the 16 Pro and 16 Pro Max.

00:40:50 ◼   ► Like I think that was the conversation we were all having,

00:40:52 ◼   ► but it was not the pic that you gave, which, rough.

00:40:55 ◼   ► - Yeah, so it's, I think the strategy makes a lot of sense.

00:41:00 ◼   ► I think the Pro phones, both being a little bit bigger

00:41:02 ◼   ► than the normal ones, is good and helps distinguish them

00:41:05 ◼   ► in the Apple store, right, or the AT&T store,

00:41:07 ◼   ► wherever you go buy your phones.

00:41:09 ◼   ► So I think it's good.

00:41:10 ◼   ► I'm sad I missed the point, but you know,

00:41:12 ◼   ► I am a man of the people, and men of the people

00:41:15 ◼   ► play by the rules.

00:41:16 ◼   ► Who am I, David Grohl?

00:41:19 ◼   ► - Why are you trying to steal my thing now?

00:41:22 ◼   ► I don't like it.

00:41:23 ◼   ► - It's like you just created this new thing,

00:41:26 ◼   ► and you already won it.

00:41:27 ◼   ► - I'm sorry, Steven.

00:41:31 ◼   ► - Thank you.

00:41:32 ◼   ► - My round two pick was, Apple reviews a new AirPods model.

00:41:37 ◼   ► Ding, yes.

00:41:38 ◼   ► Not just one, in fact, two models.

00:41:41 ◼   ► - Three. - Three.

00:41:42 ◼   ► - Three, well. - Two and a half.

00:41:44 ◼   ► - Kind of three.

00:41:45 ◼   ► Yeah, the AirPods 4, I am so excited,

00:41:50 ◼   ► because they did the thing that I was hoping for.

00:41:53 ◼   ► Mike told me it was never gonna happen.

00:41:55 ◼   ► - That's not what I said.

00:41:57 ◼   ► That's actually not what I said.

00:41:58 ◼   ► - It is literally what you said.

00:42:00 ◼   ► - No, I said I didn't think it was possible,

00:42:02 ◼   ► and I still am very intrigued by this,

00:42:06 ◼   ► 'cause it's the noise cancellation

00:42:07 ◼   ► we're talking about here, right?

00:42:09 ◼   ► That's what we're talking about?

00:42:10 ◼   ► Like, the AirPods 4, with noise cancellation,

00:42:13 ◼   ► which is a bad product name, in my opinion,

00:42:16 ◼   ► has, it is a pair of AirPods with noise cancellation

00:42:22 ◼   ► that does not have a silicon tip.

00:42:26 ◼   ► Now, a friend of the show, Chance Miller,

00:42:29 ◼   ► wrote an article on 9to5Mac,

00:42:31 ◼   ► and you know, it's saying that

00:42:33 ◼   ► the AirPods Pro noise cancellation

00:42:36 ◼   ► is defined as two times more, so it's half.

00:42:41 ◼   ► But what does that mean?

00:42:43 ◼   ► Like, I don't know how to equate, like, half.

00:42:46 ◼   ► - Like, if I turn on my Dyson vacuum at medium,

00:42:50 ◼   ► it cancels that, but if I turn it to boost mode, it doesn't?

00:42:54 ◼   ► Like, is that, like, what is 2x?

00:42:56 ◼   ► 2x what?

00:42:57 ◼   ► - The effectiveness, right?

00:42:58 ◼   ► The amount.

00:42:59 ◼   ► - Yeah, but we need a unit of measurement.

00:43:01 ◼   ► What's the unit for noise cancellation?

00:43:04 ◼   ► How do you measure that?

00:43:05 ◼   ► - Let's say it's, let's say--

00:43:07 ◼   ► - Cancellation per second, CPS or something like that?

00:43:10 ◼   ► - Two cancellations per second,

00:43:12 ◼   ► and this one does one cancellation per second.

00:43:14 ◼   ► - Is that how it works?

00:43:15 ◼   ► I don't, okay.

00:43:16 ◼   ► - I think that's how it works.

00:43:17 ◼   ► But like, look, this is kind of what I was thinking about,

00:43:20 ◼   ► but I'm very, I am very impressed by this,

00:43:23 ◼   ► 'cause I just figured you couldn't do it

00:43:24 ◼   ► without making a seal, and clearly Apple have found a way

00:43:27 ◼   ► to do it where they think it's good enough,

00:43:29 ◼   ► but I think, my expectation is if somebody moves to these,

00:43:33 ◼   ► they will realize it's not as good,

00:43:35 ◼   ► but maybe that won't matter to you at the same time.

00:43:37 ◼   ► You know what I mean?

00:43:38 ◼   ► Like maybe it's like, I don't need, I'm good of half.

00:43:41 ◼   ► - I had people in real life text me

00:43:45 ◼   ► just wanting to confirm, like,

00:43:48 ◼   ► "Hey, I read that the new AirPods 4,

00:43:50 ◼   ► "they do noise cancellation without the tips,

00:43:52 ◼   ► "is that correct?"

00:43:53 ◼   ► And I had to tell at least two people this morning, yes,

00:43:56 ◼   ► and they immediately pre-ordered the AirPods 4.

00:43:59 ◼   ► Both of them were on the AirPods 2 generation.

00:44:03 ◼   ► So yeah, I think these are gonna be extremely popular,

00:44:07 ◼   ► and this is something, we spoke about this last week,

00:44:11 ◼   ► not using the in-ear tips all the time

00:44:15 ◼   ► is something that I realized with time is better for me,

00:44:18 ◼   ► and so I was really hoping that Apple was gonna do this.

00:44:21 ◼   ► They are gonna do this.

00:44:22 ◼   ► Even if it's just a 1X cancellation

00:44:25 ◼   ► instead of 2X cancellation, whatever, I'm fine.

00:44:29 ◼   ► I'm never gonna use it most of the time,

00:44:30 ◼   ► and for those times when I need it,

00:44:32 ◼   ► I will not regret not having the AirPods Pro.

00:44:36 ◼   ► So excellent news all around.

00:44:38 ◼   ► Also happens to be a point for me.

00:44:41 ◼   ► - I'm really, I can't wait to hear

00:44:43 ◼   ► what you think about these.

00:44:44 ◼   ► Like, I'm really intrigued about it.

00:44:46 ◼   ► And so, Steven, remind me, what AirPods do you use?

00:44:51 ◼   ► - So I'm using the AirPods Pro 2,

00:44:54 ◼   ► even though I don't really like the tips.

00:44:59 ◼   ► I've come to like the other features,

00:45:01 ◼   ► and so I've stuck with them,

00:45:03 ◼   ► but the AirPods 4 with noise cancellation

00:45:07 ◼   ► is like definitely something I'm interested in.

00:45:09 ◼   ► I haven't pre-ordered them,

00:45:11 ◼   ► but I'm very curious how those reviews are gonna go,

00:45:14 ◼   ► because after a while,

00:45:17 ◼   ► especially if I'm like exercising or like sweaty,

00:45:21 ◼   ► the tips are really uncomfortable,

00:45:22 ◼   ► and for me at least, just my own ears,

00:45:25 ◼   ► my own personal experience.

00:45:27 ◼   ► And so these could be the ones for me,

00:45:30 ◼   ► and I also like how tiny the case appears to be.

00:45:34 ◼   ► Like just small and compact.

00:45:37 ◼   ► These are very interesting to me,

00:45:39 ◼   ► and yeah, I wanna know how they go.

00:45:41 ◼   ► I wanna know what people think about them,

00:45:43 ◼   ► 'cause these could be my next.

00:45:44 ◼   ► - My second round pick.

00:45:47 ◼   ► A button is introduced to an iPhone

00:45:49 ◼   ► that directly lets you capture photos.

00:45:52 ◼   ► Ding, camera control.

00:45:54 ◼   ► - Camera control.

00:45:55 ◼   ► - So much more complicated

00:45:56 ◼   ► than we would have expected it to be.

00:45:59 ◼   ► It is a button that physically moves.

00:46:01 ◼   ► It is a button that physically moves

00:46:03 ◼   ► and has a taptic motor in it,

00:46:04 ◼   ► so you can do fake clicks and real clicks,

00:46:08 ◼   ► which is how they get the two-stage click,

00:46:09 ◼   ► which is really interesting,

00:46:11 ◼   ► and it also swipes and also destroys phone cases.

00:46:16 ◼   ► Let's talk about phone cases.

00:46:19 ◼   ► - The way I've been thinking about the camera control

00:46:22 ◼   ► is that the camera control

00:46:23 ◼   ► is the dynamic island of camera buttons.

00:46:27 ◼   ► It's way more than we were expecting it to be.

00:46:30 ◼   ► It's mostly about the software when you think about it,

00:46:34 ◼   ► not necessarily the hardware, which is fascinating.

00:46:37 ◼   ► - This is a phrase which I think people apply negatively,

00:46:42 ◼   ► but I don't mean it, is that like the dynamic island,

00:46:44 ◼   ► it is over-engineered.

00:46:45 ◼   ► There is significantly more engineering

00:46:49 ◼   ► that appears to have gone into this thing

00:46:53 ◼   ► than was necessary to make people happy, I think.

00:46:56 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah.

00:46:57 ◼   ► - And I think it will make people more happy,

00:46:59 ◼   ► it will make me more happy.

00:47:00 ◼   ► I love the idea of being able to hold my phone

00:47:04 ◼   ► in the way to take a camera and swipe around and click

00:47:07 ◼   ► and pop and all this kind of stuff.

00:47:08 ◼   ► I think it's great.

00:47:09 ◼   ► I can swipe between modes, we'll be able to zoom in.

00:47:13 ◼   ► Weirdly, I heard this in MKBHD's video and I had to check,

00:47:17 ◼   ► but the thing where you can light press to focus

00:47:21 ◼   ► is not coming at launch, that's coming later,

00:47:24 ◼   ► which is really strange.

00:47:25 ◼   ► Like, via a software update.

00:47:27 ◼   ► So all the other features work,

00:47:30 ◼   ► but the idea of being able to light press

00:47:33 ◼   ► and it focus on someone and then you take the photo,

00:47:36 ◼   ► that is coming later on this year, odd.

00:47:39 ◼   ► But also there is like a, yeah, this is a very cool feature.

00:47:43 ◼   ► I like the look of it a lot and there's a lot going on.

00:47:46 ◼   ► But let's talk about phone cases.

00:47:48 ◼   ► 'Cause phone cases are a disaster now, right?

00:47:50 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:47:52 ◼   ► I've been getting a lot of Instagram ads for phone cases

00:47:54 ◼   ► because I've been looking at phone cases

00:47:56 ◼   ► 'cause I'm just intrigued about what's happening.

00:47:57 ◼   ► So I'm very aware of the landscape right now.

00:48:00 ◼   ► And basically, unless you're Apple,

00:48:04 ◼   ► everybody is doing some kind of bad cutout.

00:48:07 ◼   ► And I'm really intrigued to how it's actually gonna work

00:48:10 ◼   ► because some cases are just cutting a big trunk

00:48:13 ◼   ► out of the side, right?

00:48:14 ◼   ► So you've all seen these cases before,

00:48:18 ◼   ► where they kind of would go around the buttons

00:48:20 ◼   ► rather than making buttons, like take a big chunk out.

00:48:24 ◼   ► And some phone cases are just doing a cutout

00:48:28 ◼   ► of the little pill shape of the button.

00:48:31 ◼   ► - That's what my beloved Peak Design case is doing.

00:48:34 ◼   ► - And I don't know how that's,

00:48:36 ◼   ► I don't know if that's gonna work.

00:48:38 ◼   ► Because you gotta reach down,

00:48:42 ◼   ► you gotta push down physically inside of the cutout

00:48:46 ◼   ► that they've made and like swipe around it.

00:48:47 ◼   ► And like, I don't know how that's gonna,

00:48:49 ◼   ► I don't know how that's gonna work.

00:48:51 ◼   ► Like, I think it's interesting in Apple's cases,

00:48:55 ◼   ► they have a little piece of Sapphire in them.

00:48:57 ◼   ► And that's gonna be the way to do it.

00:49:00 ◼   ► Ultimately, I think everyone's gonna need to try

00:49:02 ◼   ► and find a way to make that work.

00:49:04 ◼   ► So they could have a little pass through piece

00:49:07 ◼   ► that's conductive.

00:49:08 ◼   ► But I think if you thought the action button

00:49:13 ◼   ► was a problem last year,

00:49:14 ◼   ► this is gonna be way more of a problem this year.

00:49:17 ◼   ► - Yeah, did y'all see that Beats have some cases?

00:49:21 ◼   ► - I did see that.

00:49:22 ◼   ► - So I've got a Beats case in my saved iPhone order.

00:49:27 ◼   ► 'Cause I think, I mean, I want a case at least

00:49:30 ◼   ► for part of the time that supports all this stuff.

00:49:34 ◼   ► And then maybe the Peak Design case,

00:49:35 ◼   ► that's kind of weird and I only use that

00:49:37 ◼   ► for when I need the little clip thing for my bike riding.

00:49:40 ◼   ► So I will report back on the Beats case in a couple of weeks

00:49:44 ◼   ► 'cause I'm very curious to see what they're doing there.

00:49:47 ◼   ► - Do you know, I had a conspiracy theory about this one,

00:49:50 ◼   ► which I did some work on and was able to disprove.

00:49:52 ◼   ► Would you like to hear my conspiracy theory?

00:49:53 ◼   ► I think it's pretty good.

00:49:54 ◼   ► - Yeah, I will say, Mike,

00:49:58 ◼   ► most of the time when people spread a conspiracy theory,

00:50:00 ◼   ► they don't debunk it in the intro.

00:50:02 ◼   ► - Because I know it's not correct.

00:50:05 ◼   ► Okay, that's why.

00:50:06 ◼   ► So like, it doesn't seem, it seems irresponsible.

00:50:08 ◼   ► - You'd be really bad at Twitter.

00:50:10 ◼   ► - And politics maybe.

00:50:11 ◼   ► But anyway.

00:50:13 ◼   ► So Apple have their cases, which is silicon,

00:50:17 ◼   ► no fine woven cases.

00:50:19 ◼   ► And they have their Beats cases,

00:50:21 ◼   ► which are a hard shell plastic.

00:50:24 ◼   ► It is a poly something.

00:50:28 ◼   ► It's in here somewhere.

00:50:29 ◼   ► - Poly, poly, poly,

00:50:31 ◼   ► - Polycarbonate.

00:50:32 ◼   ► It's polycarbonate.

00:50:34 ◼   ► So my first thought was, why are the Beats cases?

00:50:39 ◼   ► Like why are there Beats cases?

00:50:40 ◼   ► And then second thought was, well, these Beats cases

00:50:43 ◼   ► are made out of a different material.

00:50:45 ◼   ► And so then I thought,

00:50:47 ◼   ► is this material worse for the environment?

00:50:50 ◼   ► And does Beats count in Apple 2030?

00:50:54 ◼   ► And so this is my thinking was like,

00:50:58 ◼   ► and are they creating a second case option

00:51:01 ◼   ► made of a different material and calling it Beats

00:51:05 ◼   ► so they can get, so which is worse

00:51:07 ◼   ► and this material is worse for the environment,

00:51:09 ◼   ► but they can kind of be like, it's not Apple, it's Beats,

00:51:11 ◼   ► but Beats does count in Apple 2030.

00:51:14 ◼   ► So it's not for that.

00:51:16 ◼   ► I don't know why they're doing it,

00:51:17 ◼   ► but my conspiracy theory is not accurate.

00:51:20 ◼   ► - That makes me think of something now.

00:51:22 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:51:23 ◼   ► - Is FileMaker carbon neutral?

00:51:26 ◼   ► - There's only one way to find out.

00:51:28 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:51:28 ◼   ► There's only one way to find out.

00:51:30 ◼   ► Steve and Miguel on the phone.

00:51:31 ◼   ► We need to talk to FileMaker.

00:51:34 ◼   ► I just can't work out why these are Beats.

00:51:37 ◼   ► I don't know why this happened.

00:51:38 ◼   ► Like why are these not just Apple cases?

00:51:39 ◼   ► Like why are they Beats cases?

00:51:41 ◼   ► It's very interesting to me

00:51:43 ◼   ► because they're not outwardly branded as Beats.

00:51:46 ◼   ► They're like the branding of Beats is on the inside,

00:51:50 ◼   ► but these are the only two case options that I've found

00:51:52 ◼   ► that obviously have the what's needed

00:51:54 ◼   ► to make the camera control work

00:51:56 ◼   ► exactly as you would want it to.

00:51:58 ◼   ► There is the Clear case and the Silicon case from Apple

00:52:01 ◼   ► and then the Beats case.

00:52:03 ◼   ► Interestingly, the companies that they have partnered with,

00:52:06 ◼   ► right, AutoBox and I think there's one more,

00:52:10 ◼   ► have produced cases,

00:52:12 ◼   ► but they have the like physical cutouts.

00:52:16 ◼   ► So even the companies that Apple has partnered with

00:52:19 ◼   ► didn't get that information or the technology

00:52:23 ◼   ► to be able to make that work.

00:52:24 ◼   ► So I'm gonna be really interested to see how people

00:52:28 ◼   ► like or don't like their phone cases this year.

00:52:32 ◼   ► And I'm just gonna be out here living my no case life.

00:52:36 ◼   ► - What did the robot say?

00:52:38 ◼   ► - The iPhone 16 lineup will introduce

00:52:41 ◼   ► a new under display face ID system,

00:52:45 ◼   ► removing the notch or dynamic island.

00:52:48 ◼   ► - Uh-huh.

00:52:49 ◼   ► - Incredible pick, did not even nearly come true.

00:52:52 ◼   ► Can you imagine though?

00:52:53 ◼   ► Can you imagine though, if it was right, how we'd feel?

00:52:56 ◼   ► That would be scary.

00:52:57 ◼   ► So at the end of that round,

00:53:02 ◼   ► Steven has one point, Federico has two points,

00:53:05 ◼   ► I have two points and chat GPT has one point.

00:53:07 ◼   ► - Well, at least I'm not any worse

00:53:11 ◼   ► than a large language model.

00:53:13 ◼   ► - But you're not bad.

00:53:14 ◼   ► - Wait, just yeah.

00:53:16 ◼   ► - I mean, if you think about it,

00:53:17 ◼   ► aren't we all just large language models walking around?

00:53:21 ◼   ► - That is dark Steven, even for you.

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00:55:40 ◼   ► It's time for our risky picks.

00:55:45 ◼   ► Here was mine in its entirety.

00:55:49 ◼   ► Just let me get through this, okay?

00:55:51 ◼   ► The iPad mini is updated with an A17 Pro or higher

00:55:56 ◼   ► and a larger, brighter display.

00:56:00 ◼   ► It will run Apple intelligence.

00:56:01 ◼   ► It starts bad and it gets worse.

00:56:06 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:56:07 ◼   ► You know?

00:56:09 ◼   ► And what's even worse for you is that Tim Cook

00:56:12 ◼   ► at the very beginning said,

00:56:13 ◼   ► we're gonna talk about AirPods, Apple Watch and iPhone.

00:56:17 ◼   ► And so you knew you were pretty much done.

00:56:19 ◼   ► Yeah, he immediately roasted you, you know?

00:56:21 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:56:22 ◼   ► You were never gonna win.

00:56:25 ◼   ► Sorry, Steven.

00:56:25 ◼   ► Yeah, I mean, you had a flex, you get burned to the ground

00:56:28 ◼   ► like four seconds in, which is also very funny.

00:56:31 ◼   ► But yeah, I, you know, many people have said

00:56:36 ◼   ► over the years that I have a prophetic ability

00:56:41 ◼   ► to predict the future.

00:56:43 ◼   ► You remember, I correctly picked Apple to launch

00:56:45 ◼   ► Apple Silicon with a desktop Mac.

00:56:48 ◼   ► In a dream, a dream told me.

00:56:51 ◼   ► I'm just saying I was a little early.

00:56:54 ◼   ► Well, I can't use it again,

00:56:56 ◼   ► but we'll see what happens with this pick.

00:56:59 ◼   ► Well, I mean, you can score future picks from it though,

00:57:02 ◼   ► right?

00:57:03 ◼   ► No, see, okay.

00:57:04 ◼   ► We can't do that today, but I don't think I can.

00:57:09 ◼   ► I think the way the rules are written,

00:57:10 ◼   ► risky picks don't go to the new bonus system.

00:57:13 ◼   ► Only regular picks do.

00:57:15 ◼   ► We should change the rules 'cause they should.

00:57:16 ◼   ► That's my feeling.

00:57:17 ◼   ► We will deal with that in the future.

00:57:19 ◼   ► We can amend that before the next one

00:57:22 ◼   ► so you get it if it works.

00:57:23 ◼   ► But like, I think that that is just an issue

00:57:26 ◼   ► with the system.

00:57:27 ◼   ► Yeah, I'll make a note to look at that in a--

00:57:30 ◼   ► We may need to make a slight tweak on it,

00:57:33 ◼   ► but we'll work it out.

00:57:34 ◼   ► There should be some consideration for risky picks.

00:57:38 ◼   ► Maybe, maybe you get extra risky pick conditions

00:57:42 ◼   ► (laughs)

00:57:43 ◼   ► that you can add to a future risky pick.

00:57:46 ◼   ► Or--

00:57:47 ◼   ► No, no, save it.

00:57:48 ◼   ► I put a note for episode five.

00:57:50 ◼   ► No, just let me say it because--

00:57:50 ◼   ► Just let him say it.

00:57:52 ◼   ► He could just say it.

00:57:52 ◼   ► We're not doing it.

00:57:53 ◼   ► He's just saying it.

00:57:54 ◼   ► I am going to forget.

00:57:55 ◼   ► Yes, we have to say it.

00:57:56 ◼   ► Just say it. We'll forget about it.

00:57:57 ◼   ► Or you get the option to remove a condition.

00:58:02 ◼   ► So you may get a point more easily if you don't feel it.

00:58:07 ◼   ► I don't know, something like that.

00:58:08 ◼   ► Like you can choose.

00:58:09 ◼   ► Yeah, but then you couldn't get maximum points though,

00:58:10 ◼   ► could you?

00:58:11 ◼   ► 'Cause then you're just kind of giving it, anyway.

00:58:13 ◼   ► Well, except later on.

00:58:14 ◼   ► We'll talk about it.

00:58:15 ◼   ► But there's something there.

00:58:16 ◼   ► There's something there.

00:58:17 ◼   ► So here's the thing.

00:58:18 ◼   ► In reading this pick against him,

00:58:20 ◼   ► I don't think that the mini's going to get a bigger screen.

00:58:22 ◼   ► I really don't think that's going to happen

00:58:24 ◼   ► when you need to do it.

00:58:25 ◼   ► I mean, it's got to look different than the iPhone Pro Max.

00:58:28 ◼   ► They get close.

00:58:29 ◼   ► No, 'cause they have a different aspect ratio.

00:58:33 ◼   ► It's just a joke about the phone size, Mike.

00:58:35 ◼   ► Okay, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.

00:58:36 ◼   ► I apologize.

00:58:37 ◼   ► I can only apologize for what I've done.

00:58:40 ◼   ► But I don't think the screen will get bigger.

00:58:42 ◼   ► I think the screen could get better.

00:58:44 ◼   ► I think it will get better.

00:58:45 ◼   ► I hope it will.

00:58:45 ◼   ► But I'd be surprised if they made it any bigger.

00:58:48 ◼   ► Time will tell.

00:58:50 ◼   ► Time will tell.

00:58:52 ◼   ► This is heartbreaking for reasons

00:58:54 ◼   ► that I will explain shortly.

00:58:56 ◼   ► My risky pick, I'm going to read it in its entirety now.

00:58:59 ◼   ► The new, quote, capture button supports

00:59:03 ◼   ► at least two user configurable gestures,

00:59:07 ◼   ► will support third-party camera apps

00:59:09 ◼   ► in addition to the system camera,

00:59:11 ◼   ► will integrate with the controls API

00:59:14 ◼   ► to configure various commands.

00:59:16 ◼   ► Unfortunately, only one of these can be verified today

00:59:21 ◼   ► and is correct, which is the middle one.

00:59:23 ◼   ► Will support third-party camera apps

00:59:25 ◼   ► in addition to the system camera.

00:59:27 ◼   ► The other two, I want to talk about them.

00:59:30 ◼   ► Yeah, let's talk about them.

00:59:32 ◼   ► The first one, the new button supports

00:59:34 ◼   ► at least two user configurable gestures.

00:59:36 ◼   ► There's a couple of things to say here.

00:59:40 ◼   ► We don't know and we can't know right now

00:59:44 ◼   ► if that is the case.

00:59:45 ◼   ► I watched so many hands-on videos,

00:59:48 ◼   ► nobody bothered to open the settings app

00:59:51 ◼   ► and check the options for camera control in settings.

00:59:54 ◼   ► As we're recording this, I know that I've looked,

00:59:59 ◼   ► Mike has looked, we cannot find the settings pane

01:00:02 ◼   ► for camera control.

01:00:04 ◼   ► And there's no way to know if the default gestures

01:00:09 ◼   ► in the camera app will be customizable for camera control.

01:00:14 ◼   ► There's just no way to know.

01:00:16 ◼   ► And the thing is, I think even if it's not verifiable

01:00:21 ◼   ► right now, I think I will be proven right,

01:00:24 ◼   ► maybe even next month, when more camera control options

01:00:28 ◼   ► become available.

01:00:29 ◼   ► Jason, I have checked the simulator,

01:00:32 ◼   ► there's no camera control in the simulator,

01:00:35 ◼   ► because there's no camera in the simulator.

01:00:37 ◼   ► There's just no way to know if that is the case right now.

01:00:42 ◼   ► I think I will be proven right as Apple adds

01:00:47 ◼   ► more camera control features, maybe even next month,

01:00:49 ◼   ► and you will be able to choose what a light press does

01:00:51 ◼   ► or what a swipe does.

01:00:53 ◼   ► Maybe it's even there right now,

01:00:55 ◼   ► and people with review units have it right now

01:00:57 ◼   ► and know the answer, but that cannot be publicly verifiable

01:01:02 ◼   ► because they are under embargo.

01:01:04 ◼   ► And the other, which is heartbreaking,

01:01:07 ◼   ► this is my fault.

01:01:10 ◼   ► I don't get the third point.

01:01:12 ◼   ► We'll integrate with the controls API

01:01:14 ◼   ► to configure various commands.

01:01:15 ◼   ► So this is my fault because I was over-specific,

01:01:20 ◼   ► and there was a way for me to be still specific

01:01:22 ◼   ► and maintain the spirit of the PIC in my head.

01:01:25 ◼   ► The spirit behind it was,

01:01:28 ◼   ► and I think I mentioned this on the show,

01:01:31 ◼   ► I wanted to say this camera control will use one of the APIs

01:01:36 ◼   ► that we have already seen at WWDC,

01:01:39 ◼   ► because this is what Apple does.

01:01:40 ◼   ► They introduce APIs, they introduce technologies

01:01:43 ◼   ► that they are going to reuse with hardware in September.

01:01:47 ◼   ► That was the spirit of my PIC.

01:01:49 ◼   ► But instead, I just went with PIC in the controls API.

01:01:53 ◼   ► It was always, like in my head,

01:01:57 ◼   ► there were two APIs that I was thinking of.

01:01:59 ◼   ► It was controls API and the other locked camera capture

01:02:04 ◼   ► that they use on the lock screen,

01:02:05 ◼   ► that they use to let you use third-party camera apps

01:02:08 ◼   ► like Obscura or Halide to take photos from the lock screen.

01:02:13 ◼   ► I picked the controls one because I thought it made more sense

01:02:16 ◼   ► to change between the controls.

01:02:19 ◼   ► Instead, it's something else,

01:02:20 ◼   ► but they did use lock camera capture.

01:02:22 ◼   ► So I could have gotten the point if I just said

01:02:27 ◼   ► they will reuse one of the iOS technologies,

01:02:30 ◼   ► one of the iOS 18 APIs that they showed off.

01:02:32 ◼   ► I could have said it's either going to be controls

01:02:34 ◼   ► or lock camera capture.

01:02:36 ◼   ► It comes down to the phrasing,

01:02:38 ◼   ► and I painted myself in this corner

01:02:40 ◼   ► where I said the controls API,

01:02:42 ◼   ► and for that reason, I don't get the point.

01:02:45 ◼   ► -So, like, as well, like, the API that they're using,

01:02:49 ◼   ► the locked camera, they must have expanded this API, right?

01:02:53 ◼   ► -Yes. -Okay.

01:02:54 ◼   ► That's really interesting that they did that.

01:02:57 ◼   ► But I guess it is --

01:02:59 ◼   ► So this is why I wonder about the user configurable gestures

01:03:02 ◼   ► part, too, though, is they are very clearly,

01:03:05 ◼   ► I think, making it obvious you can only do camera stuff with this.

01:03:08 ◼   ► Like, you cannot do non-camera stuff with it.

01:03:11 ◼   ► And so I wonder, what would these gestures even be,

01:03:14 ◼   ► like, to do other camera stuff?

01:03:16 ◼   ► -Yeah, like, I don't know. Is there going to be --

01:03:18 ◼   ► Like, for all we know, it's very possible

01:03:20 ◼   ► that there's a setting right now in the review units

01:03:23 ◼   ► where you can say, "Well, instead of holding down for video,

01:03:25 ◼   ► hold down for burst," or something like that.

01:03:27 ◼   ► -Oh, okay. -You know?

01:03:29 ◼   ► -Okay. There might be some quick actions

01:03:31 ◼   ► that you can set that are different.

01:03:34 ◼   ► -Yeah. Like, oh, let me change the assignment of the things

01:03:38 ◼   ► with the default gestures.

01:03:39 ◼   ► I'm not imagining a scenario in which you are coming up with --

01:03:43 ◼   ► -Of the knifery. -Yeah.

01:03:45 ◼   ► Or, like, design your own gesture,

01:03:47 ◼   ► like a triple tap or something.

01:03:49 ◼   ► No, I'm saying that for those default gestures --

01:03:52 ◼   ► light press, long press, swipe --

01:03:55 ◼   ► like, maybe you will be able to choose.

01:03:57 ◼   ► It's very possible that it's already in there,

01:04:00 ◼   ► but there's no way to know.

01:04:01 ◼   ► So lesson learned, I guess.

01:04:07 ◼   ► My pick -- Apple mentions RAM or memory in the iPhone.

01:04:11 ◼   ► They say it will be at least 8 gigabytes

01:04:14 ◼   ► and state it is to power Apple intelligence.

01:04:19 ◼   ► So by my count, I have two of these.

01:04:23 ◼   ► They mention memory.

01:04:26 ◼   ► They talk about system memory and its bandwidth.

01:04:30 ◼   ► And they state it is to power Apple intelligence.

01:04:33 ◼   ► They say it needs memory to store large models and bandwidth

01:04:37 ◼   ► to access them quickly.

01:04:39 ◼   ► I have also found that Mac rumors say there's 8 gigabytes,

01:04:42 ◼   ► but Apple didn't say it, but that's just a little factoid.

01:04:44 ◼   ► -Yeah. That one, the verb "got you" --

01:04:47 ◼   ► if you didn't say Apple says it will be at least 8 gigs,

01:04:51 ◼   ► you know, you'd have a perfect screen.

01:04:52 ◼   ► -Yeah, but this still isn't it, though.

01:04:54 ◼   ► Like, I thought about that,

01:04:56 ◼   ► but this is from digging in Xcode.

01:04:59 ◼   ► Like, I just don't really think it's verifiable enough.

01:05:01 ◼   ► Like, in a way, for me, even.

01:05:04 ◼   ► Like, because what I was thinking is I genuinely thought

01:05:07 ◼   ► they were going to publish the amount.

01:05:10 ◼   ► -Right. -Which I think what Apple has done.

01:05:12 ◼   ► And even though I made the pick, I was still very surprised

01:05:16 ◼   ► to hear them talking about memory in the iPhone.

01:05:20 ◼   ► And they did it in such a way

01:05:22 ◼   ► where they were trying to not talk about RAM, right?

01:05:26 ◼   ► And also, so you never think about it,

01:05:28 ◼   ► but they're referencing an increase in memory

01:05:31 ◼   ► and what it's for and, you know, all that kind of stuff.

01:05:33 ◼   ► So by my count, I got two out of my three.

01:05:37 ◼   ► Unless anybody disagrees.

01:05:39 ◼   ► -No, I think you get it. I think it's valid, yeah.

01:05:43 ◼   ► -That's one point for me. -Mm-hmm.

01:05:47 ◼   ► -ChatGPT said...

01:05:48 ◼   ► -Apple introduces a new telephoto lens to the Pro Max.

01:05:52 ◼   ► It has 10x zoom.

01:05:55 ◼   ► It will feature enhanced low-light performance

01:05:58 ◼   ► that is branded Night Sight Pro,

01:06:01 ◼   ► and it will include a new sensor-shift stabilization system.

01:06:06 ◼   ► -Sure.

01:06:07 ◼   ► Federico, I spent a lot of time today doing the comparisons

01:06:11 ◼   ► to see if any of the sensor-shift stabilization

01:06:14 ◼   ► had changed, and it hadn't.

01:06:16 ◼   ► But I was very excited for a moment

01:06:18 ◼   ► because it does reference second-generation sensor shift.

01:06:23 ◼   ► Like, that is a thing that exists.

01:06:25 ◼   ► But no phone went from first to second year over year.

01:06:29 ◼   ► So the second-generation one was around last year.

01:06:33 ◼   ► -Yeah. -Okay.

01:06:34 ◼   ► Well, so...

01:06:36 ◼   ► -We have a winner. -We do.

01:06:37 ◼   ► Mike has three points.

01:06:41 ◼   ► Federico has two points.

01:06:44 ◼   ► I am tied with ChatGPT at zero points.

01:06:48 ◼   ► -You're so close, man.

01:06:49 ◼   ► Those 200 points are on the line for you for the quizzes.

01:06:53 ◼   ► -Oh, no. I forgot about that.

01:06:55 ◼   ► -Yeah, you were so close.

01:06:57 ◼   ► I mean, the question is,

01:06:59 ◼   ► do we need to coin flip to find out who lost?

01:07:02 ◼   ► -Or does the human get the benefit of the doubt

01:07:05 ◼   ► over the large language model?

01:07:06 ◼   ► -No. -Why wouldn't that happen?

01:07:09 ◼   ► -I've got a coin flip with ChatGPT?

01:07:12 ◼   ► -I guess -- I guess I would --

01:07:14 ◼   ► Yeah, that would be quite complicated.

01:07:15 ◼   ► -No, Steven. No, ChatGPT loses.

01:07:18 ◼   ► Come on. We give it to Stevens.

01:07:19 ◼   ► -All right. I love it. -ChatGPT loses.

01:07:20 ◼   ► -Hang on, hang on, hang on. -The fact that Federico said that

01:07:22 ◼   ► tells you it should be good

01:07:23 ◼   ► 'cause he is in competition with you.

01:07:26 ◼   ► -Yeah. -And he still doesn't --

01:07:27 ◼   ► -Here's the thing.

01:07:29 ◼   ► ChatGPT can flip a coin.

01:07:31 ◼   ► You can ask it to flip a coin. It will tell you.

01:07:33 ◼   ► -Of course you can. Yeah. -What if I just guess,

01:07:36 ◼   ► and if I'm right, I win, and if I'm wrong, it wins?

01:07:40 ◼   ► Like, I'm willing to be fair 'cause we let it play.

01:07:43 ◼   ► -If you want to do it, you can do it.

01:07:46 ◼   ► -If I lose the ChatGPT,

01:07:47 ◼   ► do I lose the points for the pug-as-a-thon?

01:07:51 ◼   ► -No, you just lose the points in the quizzes,

01:07:53 ◼   ► and it's 200 points.

01:07:55 ◼   ► -And what's the current Quizzy score?

01:07:58 ◼   ► -It's an excellent question.

01:08:01 ◼   ► Steven at 540, Federico 580.

01:08:04 ◼   ► -Ooh.

01:08:06 ◼   ► There's still a lot of time of the year left.

01:08:09 ◼   ► You know what? I'm a man of honor,

01:08:11 ◼   ► and how we do things around here is coin flips if we tie, so...

01:08:14 ◼   ► -I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna say --

01:08:15 ◼   ► I'm gonna ask ChatGPT heads or tails.

01:08:17 ◼   ► -And I got to guess it.

01:08:19 ◼   ► -No, no, and I'm gonna do the coin flip in DICE by P-Calc,

01:08:22 ◼   ► and we're gonna keep doing this until one of you loses,

01:08:26 ◼   ► as is the way that these things go, right?

01:08:29 ◼   ► So we're still abiding by the standard rules.

01:08:32 ◼   ► -Yeah.

01:08:34 ◼   ► -All right, I need to go to DICE.

01:08:35 ◼   ► I was not prepared for this,

01:08:36 ◼   ► 'cause I didn't think we were gonna be doing it,

01:08:37 ◼   ► but Steven's getting weirdly confident

01:08:40 ◼   ► for a 50/50 game of chance here against the computer,

01:08:43 ◼   ► which is a lot of --

01:08:44 ◼   ► -It's actually kind of against two computers,

01:08:46 ◼   ► if you think about your iPhone and ChatGPT.

01:08:47 ◼   ► -All right.

01:08:51 ◼   ► Actually...

01:08:55 ◼   ► How do we do this normally?

01:08:57 ◼   ► Oh, no, we just keep doing it so it's a knockout, right?

01:08:59 ◼   ► We can do it that way. All right.

01:09:02 ◼   ► Heads or tails, Steven?

01:09:03 ◼   ► -Heads.

01:09:05 ◼   ► Heads.

01:09:06 ◼   ► -Steven, you win. ChatGPT's head tails.

01:09:08 ◼   ► -Oh, thank goodness.

01:09:10 ◼   ► -Yeah.

01:09:11 ◼   ► -Thank goodness I'm gonna lose to ChatGPT.

01:09:15 ◼   ► -Can I just say for a second, though,

01:09:16 ◼   ► that we've actually been spending way too much time

01:09:19 ◼   ► focusing on the wrong thing?

01:09:20 ◼   ► Because I'm the benchman, all right?

01:09:23 ◼   ► Me, I'm the benchman.

01:09:25 ◼   ► I have consolidated power.

01:09:29 ◼   ► I am the inaugural Ricky Benchman.

01:09:32 ◼   ► -Congratulations.

01:09:33 ◼   ► -It's pretty great, right, for me.

01:09:34 ◼   ► I'm gonna change my trophy right now

01:09:38 ◼   ► and put it up with my other trophy,

01:09:39 ◼   ► 'cause I'm also a draft champion.

01:09:40 ◼   ► I'm draft champion Ricky Benchman.

01:09:42 ◼   ► I am all-powerful.

01:09:44 ◼   ► -You've had a good week. -You can touch me.

01:09:46 ◼   ► -Great week. -Good week.

01:09:48 ◼   ► Okay.

01:09:49 ◼   ► -You know we have a saying in Italy, Mike?

01:09:52 ◼   ► I don't know if there's an equivalent in English,

01:09:55 ◼   ► but it goes something like,

01:09:57 ◼   ► "Lucky in games, unlucky in love."

01:10:01 ◼   ► So if I were you, I would, you know...

01:10:03 ◼   ► -Better watch out.

01:10:04 ◼   ► Wait, are you...

01:10:05 ◼   ► Is it "are you..."

01:10:07 ◼   ► -I'm not saying anything.

01:10:07 ◼   ► I'm just saying that there's an expression.

01:10:09 ◼   ► -Are you moving in on my wife or something?

01:10:10 ◼   ► I don't know right now, Federico.

01:10:12 ◼   ► -Is that what's happening?

01:10:15 ◼   ► -No, I'm just saying.

01:10:16 ◼   ► I'm just saying.

01:10:18 ◼   ► -Well, I love this trophy and I just changed it

01:10:23 ◼   ► and now both circles on my tricky are over London

01:10:27 ◼   ► because I'm the benchman.

01:10:29 ◼   ► I will at least get like three weeks of being called Ricky Benchman.

01:10:34 ◼   ► -Yeah, there's an October event coming, I think.

01:10:36 ◼   ► -Unless they do a bunch of press releases

01:10:38 ◼   ► 'cause Tim likes me being the benchman.

01:10:40 ◼   ► -Could be.

01:10:41 ◼   ► How many times do you have to say it?

01:10:43 ◼   ► -A lot.

01:10:44 ◼   ► -A lot because again, I might have a limited shelf life, so...

01:10:47 ◼   ► -Mm-hmm, okay.

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01:12:18 ◼   ► The Flexis is a game held after each edition of the RICKYs.

01:12:23 ◼   ► It consists of a series of additional picks

01:12:26 ◼   ► in relation to the upcoming Apple event or year.

01:12:29 ◼   ► Scoring is completed separately from the main game,

01:12:31 ◼   ► but like the RICKYs, the order of picks is set by the rules

01:12:34 ◼   ► of the previous... the results of the previous game,

01:12:37 ◼   ► and ties will be broken by using dice by Pcalc.

01:12:40 ◼   ► Please lie down as the rules are read.

01:12:43 ◼   ► Hosts must make a minimum of five Flexi picks.

01:12:54 ◼   ► No problems with that this time.

01:12:57 ◼   ► Each correct pick is awarded with one point.

01:12:59 ◼   ► Wrong picks do not remove any points,

01:13:01 ◼   ► and no partial points may be awarded.

01:13:03 ◼   ► The winner is determined by comparing the percentage

01:13:06 ◼   ► of correct Flexis made by each host.

01:13:08 ◼   ► The winner can choose their own...

01:13:10 ◼   ► can use their own chosen title as long as they are the winner.

01:13:14 ◼   ► Federico shall be named Prince Flexi

01:13:16 ◼   ► and is known as King Flexi

01:13:18 ◼   ► when having won both keynote and annual games.

01:13:20 ◼   ► Mike has chosen Duke of Flexington

01:13:22 ◼   ► and uses the name Archduke Flexington when applicable.

01:13:26 ◼   ► I am the Eternal General Flexi

01:13:28 ◼   ► and use the title Secretary of Deflex when necessary.

01:13:32 ◼   ► Loser of the Flexis must compensate the winner of the Flexis

01:13:35 ◼   ► by donating to a charity of the winner's choice.

01:13:38 ◼   ► The amount of the donation is $25 per wrong Flexi made by the loser.

01:13:42 ◼   ► The money must be donated on air.

01:13:45 ◼   ► Federico is the current winner of the keynote Flexis

01:13:48 ◼   ► and I am the winner of the annual Flexis.

01:13:51 ◼   ► So if I win today, I get to be Secretary of Deflex.

01:13:55 ◼   ► If someone holds all four titles,

01:13:57 ◼   ► they are allowed to choose their own nickname.

01:13:59 ◼   ► You may be seated.

01:14:01 ◼   ► [Music]

01:14:03 ◼   ► I am convinced we will do this show long enough

01:14:07 ◼   ► that that will happen

01:14:08 ◼   ► and I am excited for that possibility.

01:14:11 ◼   ► I would also like to give some follow-up

01:14:13 ◼   ► because we forgot there was something we forgot to do

01:14:16 ◼   ► which was that we would multiply our points scored in the Rickies

01:14:21 ◼   ► and add them to our total.

01:14:25 ◼   ► So that is 30 points for me

01:14:29 ◼   ► and zero for you.

01:14:31 ◼   ► So I am now beating you in Mike versus Steven,

01:14:34 ◼   ► 75 to 45 as we lead in towards the podcast design.

01:14:38 ◼   ► So I'm feeling real good.

01:14:40 ◼   ► -I'm coming for you. -Justice.

01:14:42 ◼   ► -Coming for you, buddy. -Justice for Mike.

01:14:44 ◼   ► Justice for Mike.

01:14:46 ◼   ► Okay, so we've got just a whole bunch of Flexis here.

01:14:50 ◼   ► Federico, you're up first.

01:14:53 ◼   ► Alright.

01:14:55 ◼   ► Number one, there are multiple AirPods models.

01:14:59 ◼   ► Yeah, we've been over this, a bunch of them.

01:15:01 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:15:02 ◼   ► Number two, Apple intelligence features are demoed again.

01:15:05 ◼   ► Yeah, this is going to be the next few events

01:15:08 ◼   ► or the next few years.

01:15:09 ◼   ► Forever. This is forever now, whether we like it or not.

01:15:13 ◼   ► Were you all surprised that they had new features

01:15:16 ◼   ► when they showed the visual lookup stuff?

01:15:19 ◼   ► Which was also my risky pick from WWDC, if I'm not mistaken.

01:15:24 ◼   ► We'll look at that later.

01:15:26 ◼   ► But yes, actually, I wasn't expecting anything significant this time.

01:15:34 ◼   ► No.

01:15:36 ◼   ► Number three, there is a new AirPods model with noise cancellation.

01:15:41 ◼   ► Yes, cannot wait for it.

01:15:43 ◼   ► Number four, heartbreaking.

01:15:45 ◼   ► The new iPhone color is called gold titanium.

01:15:51 ◼   ► Now, it's called desert titanium.

01:15:53 ◼   ► However, I will just mention that if you download the marketing assets

01:15:59 ◼   ► from the Apple developer website, the files are called gold titanium.

01:16:04 ◼   ► That's fantastic.

01:16:06 ◼   ► That's fantastic.

01:16:08 ◼   ► And upsetting.

01:16:10 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:16:11 ◼   ► Number five, chat GPT is mentioned again.

01:16:14 ◼   ► Apple just loves chat GPT for its world expertise and world knowledge, as they say.

01:16:21 ◼   ► Number six, the ultra-wide camera on the iPhone 16 Pro is considerably improved.

01:16:27 ◼   ► Let's go.

01:16:28 ◼   ► Yeah, I'm excited about that.

01:16:30 ◼   ► I'm so happy about this.

01:16:32 ◼   ► I can't wait to see how it works.

01:16:35 ◼   ► Number seven, at least one of the new iPhones is brighter than before.

01:16:40 ◼   ► They're not.

01:16:42 ◼   ► They still peak at 2,000 nits of peak brightness, same as the 15.

01:16:48 ◼   ► They do actually, they go to one nit now.

01:16:52 ◼   ► They go to one nit instead of two.

01:16:54 ◼   ► So actually, they go lower.

01:16:57 ◼   ► Lower?

01:16:59 ◼   ► They go lower than before, which is interesting.

01:17:04 ◼   ► The dimmest iPhone ever.

01:17:06 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:17:07 ◼   ► Number eight, Apple introduces new vegan leather cases.

01:17:11 ◼   ► No, they just discontinued fine woven and that's it.

01:17:16 ◼   ► Number nine, the flashlight in the new iPhones is mentioned as being brighter than before.

01:17:22 ◼   ► No, it's the same flashlight.

01:17:24 ◼   ► You just get the fancy live activity, but there's no other changes.

01:17:28 ◼   ► Number 10, no Macs and iPads at this event.

01:17:32 ◼   ► That was correct.

01:17:34 ◼   ► Number 11, there are new AirPods Max, but they don't fold.

01:17:38 ◼   ► Correct.

01:17:39 ◼   ► They're still the same and there's still 550.

01:17:42 ◼   ► Incredible.

01:17:43 ◼   ► I would like to report a crime that Apple have committed in the way in which they have updated these headphones.

01:17:50 ◼   ► It's... I'm so angry.

01:17:53 ◼   ► I'm so mad about this.

01:17:55 ◼   ► Like, they just put USB-C on it.

01:17:58 ◼   ► They didn't even put the new chip in it.

01:18:00 ◼   ► Like, what is going on?

01:18:02 ◼   ► I know now I need to get different headphones.

01:18:04 ◼   ► I wanted to get new headphones.

01:18:06 ◼   ► So now I guess, I don't know, I'll wait for the next Sony's or whatever.

01:18:10 ◼   ► But I just think this is ridiculous.

01:18:13 ◼   ► So that's all I have to say on the matter.

01:18:15 ◼   ► I'm very upset about it.

01:18:17 ◼   ► Where was I?

01:18:19 ◼   ► Number 12, the new iPhone color is called Earth Titanium.

01:18:24 ◼   ► They did go with Desert Titanium.

01:18:27 ◼   ► And I told you guys today that in Italy it's called the equivalent of Sand Titanium.

01:18:32 ◼   ► It's called Titania Sabia.

01:18:34 ◼   ► That would be sand, which is a better name.

01:18:38 ◼   ► And lastly, Craig Federighi is stranded somewhere.

01:18:42 ◼   ► I think this is a point.

01:18:44 ◼   ► Because we got Craig Federighi in the middle of a fancy palace or something.

01:18:48 ◼   ► It's a palace of fine arts, just on his own.

01:18:50 ◼   ► On his own, just there.

01:18:52 ◼   ► Where other people, you can see there are other people, right?

01:18:55 ◼   ► Except when there are people out in the world.

01:18:57 ◼   ► To me, that looked pretty stranded.

01:18:59 ◼   ► I'm sure the palace of fine arts is lovely, but I think he looked pretty stranded.

01:19:04 ◼   ► There was some discourse on Threads about how did Apple get to use this space?

01:19:09 ◼   ► They just wrote him a giant check and told him to close for the day.

01:19:12 ◼   ► It's not hard to understand.

01:19:14 ◼   ► It's not like they were dodging a tourist trying to film this.

01:19:18 ◼   ► No, they just did it.

01:19:20 ◼   ► I saw a post on Threads of somebody who was in the park where the AirPods part was.

01:19:29 ◼   ► There were these big barriers up in signs and it had the name of some production company.

01:19:34 ◼   ► That's how they do it.

01:19:36 ◼   ► As you said, they just write a big check.

01:19:38 ◼   ► Do you know who probably pretty much loves Apple?

01:19:41 ◼   ► It's the San Francisco government.

01:19:44 ◼   ► You know what I mean?

01:19:46 ◼   ► I'm sure that they do okay together and they let me use all these great places.

01:19:52 ◼   ► This is 8 correct flexes out of 13 for a 61.5 correct ratio.

01:20:01 ◼   ► That's a very good average considering how many there were and how we produced half of them, which was in a flurry.

01:20:10 ◼   ► There is a segment about Apple intelligence that lasts at least 10 minutes.

01:20:16 ◼   ► It went just over.

01:20:18 ◼   ► It was like 10 minutes into 3 seconds.

01:20:20 ◼   ► It was very close, but I'm going to take that.

01:20:23 ◼   ► Apple watch band attachments will change.

01:20:25 ◼   ► They have not changed.

01:20:27 ◼   ► The watch is thinner, but they did not change the attachments.

01:20:32 ◼   ► I don't know when they're going to do this, if they're ever going to do this, but they didn't do it this time.

01:20:36 ◼   ► Apple does not say AI or artificial intelligence.

01:20:40 ◼   ► Tim said it basically immediately.

01:20:43 ◼   ► What I'm saying here is that they are trying to avoid saying it as much as possible.

01:20:54 ◼   ► But maybe there is just a scenario where they can't get away from it now, even though they would like to.

01:21:00 ◼   ► We get a release window for 18.1.

01:21:04 ◼   ► Yes, October, rather than just future.

01:21:07 ◼   ► So it's coming in October.

01:21:09 ◼   ► No iPad hardware.

01:21:11 ◼   ► Fine woven cases mysteriously disappear.

01:21:14 ◼   ► They're gone.

01:21:16 ◼   ► They never existed in the first place.

01:21:18 ◼   ► They still have some products though.

01:21:22 ◼   ► We'll talk about that in a minute.

01:21:25 ◼   ► The iPhone 16 has a better range of colors than the iPhone 16 Pro.

01:21:30 ◼   ► Is there anybody that's going to argue with me on this one?

01:21:34 ◼   ► No.

01:21:36 ◼   ► Vertical lenses on the 16.

01:21:38 ◼   ► Apple Watch SE is updated and it's not made of aluminium.

01:21:41 ◼   ► It didn't update it.

01:21:43 ◼   ► But do you know if you go to the site right now you have to pre-order one?

01:21:46 ◼   ► Yeah, I saw that.

01:21:48 ◼   ► What is going on there?

01:21:50 ◼   ► I tried to look back and I couldn't find it.

01:21:53 ◼   ► I feel like that has happened before when they've had new bands and the bands don't come out until the regular new watches come out.

01:22:01 ◼   ► Oh, that's it.

01:22:03 ◼   ► But best I can tell it's the same watch.

01:22:05 ◼   ► Yeah, but they don't...

01:22:07 ◼   ► None of the bands are available so they can't sell you a watch.

01:22:10 ◼   ► Smart.

01:22:12 ◼   ► 11. Tim Cook is surrounded by long grass.

01:22:15 ◼   ► Now, you know what is long?

01:22:19 ◼   ► You know?

01:22:20 ◼   ► Like one man's short grass is another man's long grass.

01:22:24 ◼   ► And there is a moment where he's standing on a pathway and there's some grass.

01:22:29 ◼   ► That's like longer than cut.

01:22:33 ◼   ► You know?

01:22:34 ◼   ► No? Okay, cool.

01:22:35 ◼   ► 12. The Apple Watch segment is presented in and around a gym. There was no gym at all.

01:22:40 ◼   ► Noticeably absent from the gym actually.

01:22:43 ◼   ► The only time they were inside, it looked like they were inside of a museum or an art gallery or something.

01:22:47 ◼   ► So, no, none of that.

01:22:48 ◼   ► And Craig wears a costume for some portion of the event.

01:22:51 ◼   ► No.

01:22:52 ◼   ► He did have a haircut though it looked like.

01:22:53 ◼   ► Yeah, I was going to say it did look like his hair was shorter, didn't it?

01:22:55 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:22:56 ◼   ► It did look like that.

01:22:57 ◼   ► I wish he'd button more buttons on a shirt.

01:22:59 ◼   ► I wish he'd button more.

01:23:01 ◼   ► Seven out of 13. That is 53.8% from me.

01:23:06 ◼   ► Not bad.

01:23:07 ◼   ► I would say not bad.

01:23:09 ◼   ► Not bad.

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01:25:12 ◼   ► Up next, we have mine.

01:25:18 ◼   ► Apple Watch Ultra 3 comes in black.

01:25:22 ◼   ► Once again, bitten by the worded.

01:25:26 ◼   ► Bitten by a weird lack of updates to this product.

01:25:29 ◼   ► What are you thinking about this black one?

01:25:32 ◼   ► Do you like it? It looks good, right?

01:25:33 ◼   ► I think it looks awesome.

01:25:35 ◼   ► I would be all about it if they had updated it,

01:25:39 ◼   ► but they didn't.

01:25:41 ◼   ► And that's, again, we don't have enough dots to draw a line,

01:25:44 ◼   ► but it's weird.

01:25:46 ◼   ► The Apple Watch Ultra pitches the top-of-the-line watch.

01:25:53 ◼   ► Now it's not.

01:25:55 ◼   ► There are a bunch of ways the Apple Watch Series 10 is better.

01:25:58 ◼   ► In all ways, they were very different from each other in a lot of ways.

01:26:01 ◼   ► But now this is a side product,

01:26:06 ◼   ► and it's going to get updated every couple of years, which is probably fine,

01:26:09 ◼   ► but it's a little confusing at this point what Apple's up to.

01:26:14 ◼   ► But it does look good.

01:26:16 ◼   ► Number two, macOS Sequoia released with iOS 18.

01:26:21 ◼   ► Yep, as you mentioned, everything is coming on Monday.

01:26:24 ◼   ► Number three, Apple Intelligence gains no new features.

01:26:29 ◼   ► I felt like that was a lock.

01:26:31 ◼   ► I felt they had played all their cards, but turns out they hadn't.

01:26:35 ◼   ► iPhone 16 and 16 Pro can run Apple Intelligence.

01:26:41 ◼   ► That's correct.

01:26:42 ◼   ► Number five, fine woven lives on.

01:26:46 ◼   ► So this came up that we had both put in no more fine woven cases,

01:26:53 ◼   ► and because you had seniority in the order, I changed mine,

01:26:57 ◼   ► and we both got our point.

01:26:59 ◼   ► The cases are gone, but fine woven lives on in MaxAfe wallets,

01:27:05 ◼   ► a couple of watch bands, and the AirTag case,

01:27:09 ◼   ► like a little keychain holder thing.

01:27:11 ◼   ► I understand the situation that they found themselves in,

01:27:16 ◼   ► because leather watch bands, I think, are actually more important

01:27:19 ◼   ► than leather phone cases.

01:27:21 ◼   ► I don't know what their plan is going to be here moving forward,

01:27:24 ◼   ► because I was thinking about Apple watches, thinking about bands,

01:27:28 ◼   ► I always take a look at the bands,

01:27:30 ◼   ► and I don't like any of the new ultra bands that they've made.

01:27:33 ◼   ► The colors, they're just not my colors.

01:27:36 ◼   ► The band that I always loved was the Magnetic Link band,

01:27:41 ◼   ► which they still make, but it's made out of the fine woven material.

01:27:44 ◼   ► I don't really know how it wears in a watch band,

01:27:50 ◼   ► but I know it doesn't look what I want it to look like,

01:27:52 ◼   ► and I want the look of leather.

01:27:53 ◼   ► I have the leather one, and I love it.

01:27:55 ◼   ► So I don't know what they're going to do there.

01:27:58 ◼   ► Yeah, again, sort of a transition moment.

01:28:02 ◼   ► Like you said, maybe they're going to rely on Beats

01:28:04 ◼   ► to do some other weird stuff. Who knows?

01:28:06 ◼   ► Well, they're not, because Beats is in 2030, that's the thing.

01:28:09 ◼   ► So if it's an environmental thing, Beats doesn't make a difference.

01:28:13 ◼   ► The new Apple Watch SE costs $199.

01:28:18 ◼   ► Well, neither does the old one.

01:28:20 ◼   ► Wrong on multiple accounts.

01:28:22 ◼   ► The brown iPhone Pro does not have gold in its name.

01:28:28 ◼   ► Is it brown?

01:28:31 ◼   ► We know what we mean.

01:28:33 ◼   ► Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm just giving you a lot of time.

01:28:37 ◼   ► We know what it means.

01:28:38 ◼   ► This is the one I'm the saddest about for some reason.

01:28:42 ◼   ► The iPhone Pro comes with color match cables.

01:28:45 ◼   ► It could be so cool. It's so nice on the MacBooks, but not here.

01:28:50 ◼   ► I'm sad about the fact that there's a new MagSafe puck, which is faster.

01:28:55 ◼   ► Why are you sad?

01:28:58 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:28:59 ◼   ► Because I don't want to replace all my MagSafes.

01:29:02 ◼   ► And now I know my phone could charge faster, but it won't.

01:29:05 ◼   ► That's what makes me sad.

01:29:06 ◼   ► Oh, you are going to replace your MagSafe charger?

01:29:09 ◼   ► No, I have too many. Seriously, it's too many.

01:29:12 ◼   ► Because I have like two or three dock things and they've each got two regular pucks in them.

01:29:21 ◼   ► I'm not going to do that.

01:29:22 ◼   ► There's things like $100 each or something insane.

01:29:25 ◼   ► I'm not doing that.

01:29:26 ◼   ► Okay.

01:29:30 ◼   ► The regular Apple Watch models each get larger screens and cases.

01:29:34 ◼   ► Yes, I was nervous about this because Apple made no reference to a smaller Apple Watch in the keynote whatsoever.

01:29:42 ◼   ► Unbelievable.

01:29:43 ◼   ► The most mind-blowing thing.

01:29:45 ◼   ► I do not know why they did that.

01:29:47 ◼   ► I will never understand that decision.

01:29:50 ◼   ► They never showed that there was more than one of them at the time.

01:29:54 ◼   ► It was very strange.

01:29:55 ◼   ► Very, very strange decision to make.

01:29:57 ◼   ► Yeah, really weird.

01:29:59 ◼   ► iOS 18.1 announced to ship in October.

01:30:04 ◼   ► We see the rainbow stage at Apple Park in the video.

01:30:10 ◼   ► We saw it at day and at night and it looks really cool lit up at night.

01:30:14 ◼   ► Go rainbow stage team at Apple.

01:30:18 ◼   ► Jeff Williams is seen in nature.

01:30:21 ◼   ► What's nature really?

01:30:22 ◼   ► What is nature?