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255d: Summer Superhero Spectacular: Latveria Region


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00:00:39   subepisode t Comic Con 2015 welcome back [TS]

00:00:46   everybody to be uncomfortable i'm your [TS]

00:00:47   host Jason L this is the fourth bracket [TS]

00:00:50   in our summer superhero spectacular [TS]

00:00:52   tournament where we pit superheroes [TS]

00:00:54   against one another [TS]

00:00:55   learn nothing and eventually they'll be [TS]

00:00:57   a winner but not yet this is only the [TS]

00:00:59   first round [TS]

00:01:00   anyway thanks for joining us and be sure [TS]

00:01:02   to look at the show notes where you'll [TS]

00:01:03   see a link to a printable superhero [TS]

00:01:05   bracket and a way that you can [TS]

00:01:08   participate in future rounds be Latveria [TS]

00:01:11   region is up how did like very can spit [TS]

00:01:14   this has to be a set bladder thing [TS]

00:01:16   no no it definitely was not step ladder [TS]

00:01:19   with his totally normal name [TS]

00:01:20   uh number one this is the iron matchup [TS]

00:01:23   number one in this region is ironman [TS]

00:01:25   argued by dan vs number 16 iron fist [TS]

00:01:28   argued by Tony Tony you may be our first [TS]

00:01:31   ironman i mean i'd fit but wait what I [TS]

00:01:33   die [TS]

00:01:34   this system is crooked yes I very [TS]

00:01:36   regional library yeah totally legit so [TS]

00:01:39   iron fist may not be one of your most [TS]

00:01:42   well-known superheroes know what indeed [TS]

00:01:47   some point [TS]

00:01:49   ok so Danny Rand is iron fist and he is [TS]

00:01:53   a little bit [TS]

00:01:54   iron man and a little bit daredevil he [TS]

00:01:57   is your typical billionaire [TS]

00:01:58   industrialist playboy except he also [TS]

00:02:01   knows kung foo and not just cou magic [TS]

00:02:03   tongue foo he does spend a lot of time [TS]

00:02:06   trying to keep the streets of New York [TS]

00:02:08   safe but he also spent some time in [TS]

00:02:10   mystical realm was helping navigate kind [TS]

00:02:13   of [TS]

00:02:13   weird otherworldly politics between the [TS]

00:02:15   Seven Cities of heaven which all have [TS]

00:02:17   their own various super-powered warriors [TS]

00:02:20   who advocate for them and represent the [TS]

00:02:23   midden mystic internal politics anything [TS]

00:02:27   like it he fights inches thank you to [TS]

00:02:30   Dan iron man [TS]

00:02:31   well I mean you know Iron Man Tony Stark [TS]

00:02:34   you know I'm you like him or you don't [TS]

00:02:36   I mean he's got a shot probably you feel [TS]

00:02:38   narcissistic alcohol abuser [TS]

00:02:42   I mean you know he's he's he's not a [TS]

00:02:44   perfect person but you know he he tries [TS]

00:02:46   his best and and he does so with the [TS]

00:02:48   help of his intellect and his super [TS]

00:02:50   power armor and I think you know let's [TS]

00:02:52   not overlook that he he built his [TS]

00:02:54   initial suit of armor [TS]

00:02:55   well a prisoner of war in in your [TS]

00:02:58   Vietnam or or Afghanistan depending on [TS]

00:03:00   which the continuity prefer to use which [TS]

00:03:03   is pretty badass you know just out of [TS]

00:03:05   like what's lying around and that he is [TS]

00:03:07   you know been a pivotal character in the [TS]

00:03:10   entirety of the Marvel Universe with his [TS]

00:03:12   team membership and everything from the [TS]

00:03:14   Avengers to the guardians of the galaxy [TS]

00:03:15   so you know iron man in summation is [TS]

00:03:19   just sort of like without him the Marvel [TS]

00:03:21   Universe just doesn't run all right [TS]

00:03:24   Steve [TS]

00:03:27   wow I just looked up iron fist and had [TS]

00:03:30   flashbacks of my youth I did not [TS]

00:03:33   remember the name but I remember the [TS]

00:03:35   costume and the character the rich [TS]

00:03:38   Corinthian leather of his chest area i [TS]

00:03:41   did a while back line right is it [TS]

00:03:44   appears essence party collar is very [TS]

00:03:46   stylish as well it appears that is his [TS]

00:03:49   fist is iron fists actually burst into [TS]

00:03:51   flame is that correct yeah yeah I had [TS]

00:03:54   nothing on his you haven't like that [TS]

00:03:55   almost mythical no imagery that's that [TS]

00:03:57   that's the magic comes apart the magic [TS]

00:03:59   and food party yeah it seems today I get [TS]

00:04:01   this thing on his chest burns with fire [TS]

00:04:03   energy to it almost like a batman symbol [TS]

00:04:05   with that's what's that about [TS]

00:04:07   well it interacts like the dragon he [TS]

00:04:09   basically fought and defeated a dragon [TS]

00:04:12   and gained its power [TS]

00:04:14   really yeah wow yeah turns out the other [TS]

00:04:18   guy who wanted to fight the dragon gains [TS]

00:04:20   power really angry about it they fight [TS]

00:04:22   later and on the other side we got [TS]

00:04:23   millionaire playboy in [TS]

00:04:25   suit how many dragons has he beaten I [TS]

00:04:28   just asking all of them just as one [TS]

00:04:33   also there is present in this court for [TS]

00:04:35   treating badly a genius who's a total [TS]

00:04:37   jerk [TS]

00:04:38   I feel like they point out of these [TS]

00:04:40   heroes are genius and networking trucks [TS]

00:04:43   no one cares about Reed Richards it's [TS]

00:04:47   still I think I gotta go iron man as [TS]

00:04:51   cool as iron fist is and I I he is [TS]

00:04:53   extremely cool i'm going in [TS]

00:04:56   no mr. send the lab I have a question [TS]

00:05:03   I feel like I'm in junior high again [TS]

00:05:07   oh because of all the comic books know [TS]

00:05:10   his people say my name rock my question [TS]

00:05:12   is [TS]

00:05:13   come on is that a question your honor it [TS]

00:05:18   is a question come on come on [TS]

00:05:20   it is the ground irish mist the question [TS]

00:05:24   didn't do so well the answer is ironman [TS]

00:05:26   but not all you know sometimes the first [TS]

00:05:29   he has to agree with the 16 god what I [TS]

00:05:32   think Iron Fist was under ranked out [TS]

00:05:34   seed but i will tell you that over the [TS]

00:05:36   top seeding tough seeing I was gonna ask [TS]

00:05:37   dan is he live or dead has your thoughts [TS]

00:05:39   within his head but I didn't need to [TS]

00:05:41   even get that's okay that's five losses [TS]

00:05:42   in a row over Tony and Tony its Latveria [TS]

00:05:46   yeah that's right it's all fixed [TS]

00:05:48   I know there were eight verses number 9 [TS]

00:05:50   matchup here Dan Morgan will be arguing [TS]

00:05:52   gambit vs chip sudderth not Tony who [TS]

00:05:57   will be hard to in phoenix [TS]

00:05:59   dan you may go first alright let's let's [TS]

00:06:01   all agree that in in many ways gambit [TS]

00:06:04   maybe the worst but that said I like [TS]

00:06:08   your thinking threshold [TS]

00:06:09   yea yea so lots of room for growth I [TS]

00:06:12   think what what I particularly like [TS]

00:06:14   about gambit is that his superpower is [TS]

00:06:17   actually really cool the idea that he [TS]

00:06:18   can like charge any object with kinetic [TS]

00:06:21   energy and basically make it explode is [TS]

00:06:23   pretty sweet [TS]

00:06:24   choosing a deck of playing cards let's [TS]

00:06:26   admit that's like a style / practicality [TS]

00:06:28   choice like yeah it's a cool sort of [TS]

00:06:31   theme thing going on but it's not really [TS]

00:06:32   super convenient to throw playing cards [TS]

00:06:35   so like that might be a tactical error [TS]

00:06:36   that said [TS]

00:06:38   Remy LeBeau is my way back up back up [TS]

00:06:41   back up [TS]

00:06:42   you know what is it with the playing [TS]

00:06:43   cards i have no idea what you're talking [TS]

00:06:44   about here [TS]

00:06:45   yeah mp3 some it was playing cards and [TS]

00:06:47   they explode because he charges them [TS]

00:06:49   with energy but then but he can do that [TS]

00:06:50   with any object you can touch an object [TS]

00:06:52   in charge it with kinetic energy that [TS]

00:06:54   causes it to explode just playing cards [TS]

00:06:56   are like things exploding playing cards [TS]

00:06:58   yes he does [TS]

00:07:00   that's the thing he does he also has a [TS]

00:07:01   staff that that telescopes and he's my [TS]

00:07:06   friend [TS]

00:07:06   alright that's not that if that's a [TS]

00:07:08   superpower that Steve love I feel that [TS]

00:07:12   my argument was derailed but i will just [TS]

00:07:15   say you guys started i right [TS]

00:07:18   I enjoy it especially his betrayal in [TS]

00:07:20   the nineteen nineties x-men animated [TS]

00:07:23   series thank you Dan chip Phoenix there [TS]

00:07:26   was there's no way [TS]

00:07:27   well you have given me one of the most [TS]

00:07:31   confusing characters in the edge x-men [TS]

00:07:33   franchise to try to advocate for I'm not [TS]

00:07:37   going to tell you about how one of the [TS]

00:07:39   original x-men jean grey marble girl [TS]

00:07:41   encountered this Phoenix force and was [TS]

00:07:43   transformed into the x-men's first [TS]

00:07:45   cosmic character instead i'm going to [TS]

00:07:48   tell you about how about my wife [TS]

00:07:50   Shannon's roommate in grad school mutual [TS]

00:07:53   friend told us how he first met this [TS]

00:07:55   person [TS]

00:07:56   sobbing uncontrollably in a classroom [TS]

00:07:59   and when he asked her what was wrong she [TS]

00:08:00   said they just killed Jean play this was [TS]

00:08:06   at the height of chris claremont to run [TS]

00:08:08   of the x-men when he and john byrne had [TS]

00:08:11   created the world's greatest superhero [TS]

00:08:13   soap opera a universe almost to itself [TS]

00:08:16   within the Marvel Universe phoenix was [TS]

00:08:18   one of the most powerful characters in [TS]

00:08:20   Marvel one-half of the most star-crossed [TS]

00:08:23   love affair in Marvel and to this day I [TS]

00:08:26   can't tell you whether phoenix was Jean [TS]

00:08:28   Grey or a copy of Jean Grey or whatever [TS]

00:08:30   it says it's just too confusing [TS]

00:08:32   phoenix better than gambit alright [TS]

00:08:35   that's wrong tournament would have been [TS]

00:08:37   stronger if he done a gambit impression [TS]

00:08:39   yeah Phil what are your thoughts [TS]

00:08:42   I believe I speak for the universe when [TS]

00:08:44   I say that gambit is perhaps the coolest [TS]

00:08:47   of the x-men well Oh No beloved by all [TS]

00:08:51   yeah that's that [TS]

00:08:51   super run no interviews I've got nothing [TS]

00:08:55   left to lose here followed by anyone who [TS]

00:08:58   played the nineteen nineties video game [TS]

00:09:00   where you could fire off those cards and [TS]

00:09:03   I was pretty sweet damage [TS]

00:09:04   Cherie I rule in favor of gannett right [TS]

00:09:09   I just so she did not see that coming [TS]

00:09:12   but I'm pretty psyched about it and uh [TS]

00:09:14   Steve well I've just pulled up the [TS]

00:09:17   picture of gambit wearing he's wearing a [TS]

00:09:19   pink teddy which appears to be his [TS]

00:09:21   primary costume i'm not sure why that [TS]

00:09:23   wasn't mentioned it's well mrs. got a [TS]

00:09:28   variety of candles got a variety of [TS]

00:09:31   benefits with a lot of them do involve a [TS]

00:09:32   liberal use of fuchsia steve is very [TS]

00:09:35   wardrobe based on his determination [TS]

00:09:38   yeah it's well it says a lot about a [TS]

00:09:40   character would not how hot is the [TS]

00:09:43   superhero Steve but the hotness does not [TS]

00:09:45   come into it with gambit olotels with [TS]

00:09:47   you know something you don't wanna start [TS]

00:09:48   to get played by Channing Tatum that [TS]

00:09:50   won't buy it soon any direction [TS]

00:09:52   I don't even know who that is okay here [TS]

00:09:54   we go that helps a lot [TS]

00:09:55   so your wife's former roommate ship [TS]

00:09:57   makes a very compelling case for Phoenix [TS]

00:09:59   but can be so stupid i'm looking at him [TS]

00:10:07   he throws playing cards that blow all [TS]

00:10:09   the coolest of the x-men Steve oh my god [TS]

00:10:12   i think you may be right Phil better [TS]

00:10:14   this Cyclops better than beasts better [TS]

00:10:16   perhaps than Wolverine he's so lamely [TS]

00:10:20   wraps around cool again it's hard to [TS]

00:10:22   believe but I'm going to gamma not [TS]

00:10:25   everybody can relax [TS]

00:10:27   gambit has arrived yeah but advance to [TS]

00:10:30   the next round because you just want to [TS]

00:10:33   see him get killed by a much more [TS]

00:10:34   powerful character than was available [TS]

00:10:35   right possible we all I don't disagree [TS]

00:10:38   with that logic [TS]

00:10:39   it will probably be iron man in the next [TS]

00:10:42   round with dan arguing for ironman & [TS]

00:10:44   Gamble that'll be it could be now we [TS]

00:10:48   move to match up between carol danvers [TS]

00:10:51   as Captain Marvel she's the number five [TS]

00:10:53   seed argued by Monty vs. then grim the [TS]

00:10:57   ever-lovin blue-eyed thing number 12 [TS]

00:10:59   seed from straight out of Brooklyn [TS]

00:11:01   argued by an do not go Andy you may go [TS]

00:11:04   first [TS]

00:11:05   ladies and gentlemen there is this thing [TS]

00:11:07   called heart you either have heart or [TS]

00:11:10   you don't have heart that is the ability [TS]

00:11:13   to keep on fighting when there is [TS]

00:11:16   nothing to tell you that you can [TS]

00:11:17   possibly succeed but you still know deep [TS]

00:11:19   in your heart that the fight is worth [TS]

00:11:21   fighting there is the sort of person [TS]

00:11:23   who's perseverance can flag and sustain [TS]

00:11:28   the energy and the fight and the will to [TS]

00:11:30   persevere of those around them [TS]

00:11:32   this Ben Grimm is such a man no one has [TS]

00:11:36   more heart from the fights harder known [TS]

00:11:38   is great for shattering of them Ben [TS]

00:11:41   Grimm his powers refreshingly simple [TS]

00:11:43   he's crazy strong he's crazy hard to [TS]

00:11:45   hurt that's great stuff and no one's [TS]

00:11:47   ever had to reformat his power single [TS]

00:11:49   he's actually got rock powers he can [TS]

00:11:51   manipulate rocks into force field and [TS]

00:11:54   transform himself into other forms of [TS]

00:11:56   rocks [TS]

00:11:57   he has an incredible story arc in which [TS]

00:11:59   he was College hero handsome hero of [TS]

00:12:02   millions turned into a monster he went [TS]

00:12:04   through a period of self-pity and a [TS]

00:12:06   period of self-awareness as he realizes [TS]

00:12:07   then he can have to learn how to move [TS]

00:12:10   gently now he has to be quieter and has [TS]

00:12:11   to be a source of strength as opposed to [TS]

00:12:14   a source of force all right time I have [TS]

00:12:16   to call I have to catch off their [TS]

00:12:17   marketing go ahead [TS]

00:12:19   Carol Danvers is an awesome fighter [TS]

00:12:21   pilot with natural leadership skills as [TS]

00:12:23   Captain Marvel she also has a great [TS]

00:12:25   costume and can fly around the universe [TS]

00:12:27   and shoot energy blasted things she's [TS]

00:12:29   basically your ideal iconic superhero is [TS]

00:12:32   a great reason why she has legions of [TS]

00:12:34   fans and this she's an awesome character [TS]

00:12:36   who also happens to be an awesome woman [TS]

00:12:38   get on board now so you know what's [TS]

00:12:40   going on with her movie comes out in [TS]

00:12:42   2018 cause unlike the thing she can [TS]

00:12:45   carry a movie on her own [TS]

00:12:46   oh also I know we just said it's not a [TS]

00:12:49   competition about who's hottest but I [TS]

00:12:51   need to point out for the digits [TS]

00:12:53   consideration that Carol Danvers is a [TS]

00:12:55   sexy blonde and the thing is an ugly [TS]

00:12:57   orange Rock Monster you know how I swear [TS]

00:13:01   you don't know also she wants me to [TS]

00:13:03   start to death with another shark [TS]

00:13:05   basically saying you don't care what her [TS]

00:13:09   powers our personality our you're really [TS]

00:13:11   going on the fact that she's blonde well [TS]

00:13:13   that's an interesting well it's an [TS]

00:13:14   interesting interpreting feelings [TS]

00:13:16   dimensions crime hours and very parade [TS]

00:13:18   analogy several I'm saying that these or [TS]

00:13:20   related brandon i do say oh yeah [TS]

00:13:25   order order order to see steve was her [TS]

00:13:28   ruling uh-oh oh boy [TS]

00:13:32   yeah yeah I'm just marveling at the fact [TS]

00:13:35   that and he started his long diatribe [TS]

00:13:37   with the phrase there is this thing and [TS]

00:13:41   it's about the thing you stopped [TS]

00:13:42   listening to both of our discussion [TS]

00:13:44   yeah I kind of did I kind of like was [TS]

00:13:46   looking at the wall for a little while [TS]

00:13:47   and then I thought it kind of got a [TS]

00:13:49   level of my character [TS]

00:13:51   no no it's I was it was a moving tale [TS]

00:13:54   that and he told I a man turned into a [TS]

00:13:57   pile of rocks by some crap in space [TS]

00:13:59   truly been grim story is all of our [TS]

00:14:03   students on the other hand hot blonde [TS]

00:14:11   but on the other hand I I dire and kinda [TS]

00:14:15   like the orange Rock men [TS]

00:14:17   mhm mhm its i'm going to the thing all [TS]

00:14:22   right Phil I think to the rather iconic [TS]

00:14:26   Marvel illustration of carol danvers [TS]

00:14:29   pulling on her love giving me a a [TS]

00:14:32   coquettish any polar like look and I'm [TS]

00:14:37   impressed [TS]

00:14:38   then I think back to my childhood in [TS]

00:14:40   which there was a cartoon where it was a [TS]

00:14:42   teenage thing where Ben Graham was just [TS]

00:14:45   a crazy teenage kid who want to you know [TS]

00:14:48   sitting with everyone else was it you [TS]

00:14:51   know group task pile of rocks [TS]

00:14:53   it's a very difficult decision but I [TS]

00:14:57   believe that it is in point of fact [TS]

00:15:00   clobbering time I rule for the thing I [TS]

00:15:04   major upset their the thing moves on to [TS]

00:15:07   the next round [TS]

00:15:08   the thing is my favorite comic book you [TS]

00:15:10   will argue for the other side Monty I [TS]

00:15:12   appreciate your commitment commitment is [TS]

00:15:16   a very good way to put this premise [TS]

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00:16:35   number four seed another Hawkeye it's [TS]

00:16:40   clint barton the original Hawkeye good [TS]

00:16:42   you're not write x times sake [TS]

00:16:45   god damn Akash is to just to just to [TS]

00:16:48   unlimited 2 and also reader and he's up [TS]

00:16:52   against up against number 13 seed big [TS]

00:16:55   barda argued by Monty Monty you may go [TS]

00:16:57   first explain big bar to us big barda [TS]

00:17:00   was raised to be a villain [TS]

00:17:02   she was one of Darkseid's warriors but [TS]

00:17:05   then she fell in love with a due date [TS]

00:17:06   scot-free who can escape from anything [TS]

00:17:08   and they fell in love and they scot-free [TS]

00:17:11   they come up with the artery is not on [TS]

00:17:14   trial here [TS]

00:17:16   the point is big barda who is way cooler [TS]

00:17:18   than scot-free see Mary down she did so [TS]

00:17:22   she's as strong as wonder woman but [TS]

00:17:24   unlike one woman she's usually drawn so [TS]

00:17:27   she looks like someone who's strong [TS]

00:17:29   she's not like she hulk side that she [TS]

00:17:32   looks like about 65 and she's big and [TS]

00:17:34   beefy and muscular and she's usually [TS]

00:17:37   pretty cheerful about everything even [TS]

00:17:39   though she's fighting the biggest evil [TS]

00:17:40   in the universe which I appreciate the [TS]

00:17:42   comic book character big bird is a lot [TS]

00:17:44   of fun right Tony and she's not Hawkeye [TS]

00:17:47   Your Honor I I'm floor you I like what [TS]

00:17:52   you're telling me you can go ahead [TS]

00:17:53   all right click click pardon is Hawkeye [TS]

00:17:56   he is another guy who's amazing with a [TS]

00:17:58   bone he's not just maybe you have a [TS]

00:18:01   narrow thank God we have 10 this one is [TS]

00:18:04   an orphan [TS]

00:18:05   he's an orphan who runs away from the [TS]

00:18:07   orphanage to join a carnival but that [TS]

00:18:09   carnival evil they train him to be an [TS]

00:18:11   assassin and then he decides I'm not [TS]

00:18:13   gonna be an assassin [TS]

00:18:14   I'm gonna be a superhero who's really [TS]

00:18:16   good at archery and he tags along with [TS]

00:18:18   the Avengers even though he's not nearly [TS]

00:18:20   as tough as any of them and you know he [TS]

00:18:23   in fact he's not afraid to live a normal [TS]

00:18:25   life he has trouble paying ret he needs [TS]

00:18:27   to talk to Tony Stark about how to hook [TS]

00:18:29   up his DVR he is a guy we can all relate [TS]

00:18:32   to [TS]

00:18:32   he could be your neighbor if your [TS]

00:18:33   neighbor was really good at archery is [TS]

00:18:35   Hawkeye also sometimes he's been dead [TS]

00:18:38   for awhile and he takes on a lot of the [TS]

00:18:39   percentages you should still see about [TS]

00:18:42   the costume [TS]

00:18:43   i steamed i'm sure you're already [TS]

00:18:46   looking up the image for his costume so [TS]

00:18:49   with his costumes are pretty good no I'm [TS]

00:18:51   sorry I stopped on the big barda costume [TS]

00:18:53   yeah you did your honor president spoke [TS]

00:18:56   they were kidding me save you owe it to [TS]

00:19:06   yourself to look at the purple the [TS]

00:19:08   purple Hawkeye costume [TS]

00:19:09   ya see if you may go first Oh Jason [TS]

00:19:12   Jason Jason Steve sleeve do mr. Chandler [TS]

00:19:17   make some strong points who Anthony [TS]

00:19:20   chandler and I what I thought his name [TS]

00:19:23   was sindelar when we started this thing [TS]

00:19:24   but I'm not so sure anymore so I'm not [TS]

00:19:26   clear on reaching for whatever i can i [TS]

00:19:28   can come up with [TS]

00:19:29   did we pick the other Hawkeye forget we [TS]

00:19:32   did what we did pick the other Hawkeye m [TS]

00:19:34   / green lantern full Wow injustice that [TS]

00:19:38   he'll decided that I did I decided that [TS]

00:19:40   10 is a ryan reynolds I has just one too [TS]

00:19:44   many hot guys big barda it is what Phil [TS]

00:19:50   I'm going to say legal precedent in this [TS]

00:19:54   case the judgment of a Sesame Street [TS]

00:20:00   Avenger parody young wet [TS]

00:20:03   okay help me in which cookie monster [TS]

00:20:07   points out to mock I cucumbers cool yuzu [TS]

00:20:12   kini I little favor of big barda haha a [TS]

00:20:19   massive upset their big bird moves on [TS]

00:20:21   Hawkeye master home [TS]

00:20:23   clint barton goes home k Bishop remains [TS]

00:20:25   that button can't even win it like know [TS]

00:20:28   the answer to form true to form [TS]

00:20:32   alright we move on to the next round [TS]

00:20:33   rock guy number six seed is Rorschach [TS]

00:20:37   from watch men he will be argued by [TS]

00:20:39   Monty number 11 seed storm from the [TS]

00:20:41   x-men argued by Lisa Lisa you get to go [TS]

00:20:43   first i'm not familiar with that [TS]

00:20:45   character is some kind of question [TS]

00:20:46   ripoff is that [TS]

00:20:47   possibly oh but Lisa first with storm [TS]

00:20:51   alright i have yet another omega4 mutant [TS]

00:20:54   this one is one whose power allows her [TS]

00:20:57   to perceive the world in terms of energy [TS]

00:20:58   so that she can effectively do is [TS]

00:21:00   observe weather patterns and even the [TS]

00:21:02   signals of the neurons in your brain so [TS]

00:21:03   she can create a hurricane in your brain [TS]

00:21:06   if she disagrees with what you're doing [TS]

00:21:08   she can affect the world on a micro [TS]

00:21:10   level ie the inside of someone's skull [TS]

00:21:11   or a macro level IE screwing up climates [TS]

00:21:14   four continents in addition to these [TS]

00:21:17   formidable powers or rural monroe has [TS]

00:21:19   been a mainstay of the x-men team she is [TS]

00:21:22   one of the more nurturing members [TS]

00:21:24   she is also risen to a leadership [TS]

00:21:28   capacity and tried to take the team away [TS]

00:21:31   from a let's just punch things for the [TS]

00:21:33   heck of it type of ethos and more [TS]

00:21:35   towards a let's just punch things when [TS]

00:21:36   it makes sense to do so ethos which is [TS]

00:21:38   refreshing when punching is your first [TS]

00:21:41   language and diplomacy she has been [TS]

00:21:45   married to some dude with Canada for a [TS]

00:21:47   while she's been not married she's had [TS]

00:21:49   adventure she did a gambit for a while I [TS]

00:21:50   don't know if that's a point in your [TS]

00:21:51   favor not but i feel like i should [TS]

00:21:52   mention anyway uh huh [TS]

00:21:54   anyway she's super she's super cool [TS]

00:21:58   she's super powerful and unlike say [TS]

00:22:00   Cyclops when she says she's leader of [TS]

00:22:02   the team she actually walks the walk [TS]

00:22:04   she holds herself responsible for her [TS]

00:22:05   decisions and her definition of [TS]

00:22:07   leadership is making sure that everybody [TS]

00:22:08   is given the opportunity to work their [TS]

00:22:10   full potential [TS]

00:22:11   while being happy about it for this [TS]

00:22:13   balance of self-assurance and [TS]

00:22:14   selflessness [TS]

00:22:15   I think she's great all right Monty the [TS]

00:22:18   question was created by a weirdo named [TS]

00:22:21   steve ditko wanted to use comic books [TS]

00:22:23   about objectivism then he was turned [TS]

00:22:26   into Rorschach was created by a weirdo [TS]

00:22:28   named alan moore who wanted to use comic [TS]

00:22:29   books promoter brand of Satanism that [TS]

00:22:31   worships a snake god that's so i'm not [TS]

00:22:37   wrong [TS]

00:22:38   no it didn't so actually though watchman [TS]

00:22:42   was an essential step in the maturation [TS]

00:22:43   of comic books and Rorschach may have [TS]

00:22:45   been the most important part of it [TS]

00:22:47   comic books are full of investigators [TS]

00:22:49   looking into weird things and was vital [TS]

00:22:51   to see what a really paranoid loon would [TS]

00:22:53   look like I think Jackie Earle Haley was [TS]

00:22:56   actually the best part of the watchman [TS]

00:22:58   movie showing in person [TS]

00:23:00   what a crazy [TS]

00:23:01   the guy this would be and how it's not [TS]

00:23:03   somebody you want to hang out with but [TS]

00:23:04   it is a nutcase who gets things done and [TS]

00:23:07   I think Rorschach [TS]

00:23:08   in addition is a great name for the [TS]

00:23:09   character because what you see in him is [TS]

00:23:11   only what you bring to the table is he a [TS]

00:23:13   horrible monster who ruined comic books [TS]

00:23:15   by breaking them to darken to Metta well [TS]

00:23:17   maybe the monster is you know yet [TS]

00:23:21   it's definitely something is any [TS]

00:23:24   question about that Phil you the monster [TS]

00:23:26   too [TS]

00:23:26   I am a monster yeah i thought so what [TS]

00:23:29   are your votes iron monster who does not [TS]

00:23:37   even think that were shack is the most [TS]

00:23:38   interesting person [TS]

00:23:40   watchmen that would be the comedian i'm [TS]

00:23:44   afraid i must rule in favor of storm [TS]

00:23:46   Steve well you know storm [TS]

00:23:51   what can you say mean the weather is [TS]

00:23:55   like sixty-three percent of the earth [TS]

00:23:56   like the weather outside steve is [TS]

00:24:01   frightful but the fire is so delightful [TS]

00:24:05   how we are not we are not representing [TS]

00:24:08   the human torch in this case as I [TS]

00:24:10   understand haha ah but storm [TS]

00:24:14   I you know I'm sorry but bro shock yet [TS]

00:24:16   you drew a tough one here he's a he's [TS]

00:24:19   way too pivotal character for me to to [TS]

00:24:23   go against against him so I gotta go [TS]

00:24:27   Rorschach that leaves it for me to [TS]

00:24:29   decide then [TS]

00:24:30   herma Hill ridings pain i'm gonna figure [TS]

00:24:37   out shack [TS]

00:24:38   wow how someday they're gonna ask could [TS]

00:24:41   you please vote my character through [TS]

00:24:43   into the next round [TS]

00:24:44   look down at them and say no I like [TS]

00:24:46   storm the best when she didn't have [TS]

00:24:48   powers you know that were shocked smells [TS]

00:24:50   like the subway that's what gets to me [TS]

00:24:52   like the question has a dry clean [TS]

00:24:53   yeah he eats a cold cans of various [TS]

00:24:56   foods to Angel suit perhaps be 90 human [TS]

00:25:00   juice [TS]

00:25:01   yeah it's like once you've had a [TS]

00:25:03   roommate like the question really for [TS]

00:25:04   Shaq it really takes a lot of the joy [TS]

00:25:06   out of it such a question whatever [TS]

00:25:08   all right next round number three seed [TS]

00:25:12   Thor will be argued by chip [TS]

00:25:14   who successfully argued for beta ray [TS]

00:25:17   bill earlier number 14 seed is a result [TS]

00:25:20   of a plan [TS]

00:25:21   Monty who is the winner of the plan game [TS]

00:25:23   between nova and invincible [TS]

00:25:26   well they're both due to can fly and [TS]

00:25:28   have a lot of bonus powers but I give [TS]

00:25:29   the edge to invincible on the grounds [TS]

00:25:31   that the name invincible could be a [TS]

00:25:32   strength while nova is an exploding star [TS]

00:25:35   who wants to be an exploding star that [TS]

00:25:38   sounds dangerous [TS]

00:25:39   mainly doesn't go in Spanish which is [TS]

00:25:41   not at all right [TS]

00:25:45   invincible you think Chevy would have [TS]

00:25:46   noticed that Monty police argue for [TS]

00:25:49   invincible invincible is 18 superhero [TS]

00:25:52   who actually looks like a teenager [TS]

00:25:53   that's the core of my argument that a [TS]

00:25:57   lot of people in comic books are [TS]

00:25:58   described as teenagers but then act like [TS]

00:26:00   adults or talk like 60 year old writers [TS]

00:26:03   think teenagers talk but I invincible [TS]

00:26:07   provides a level of realistic [TS]

00:26:08   characterization that DC and Marvel tend [TS]

00:26:10   not to be able to deliver with their top [TS]

00:26:12   line heroes is an actual teenager with [TS]

00:26:15   superpowers [TS]

00:26:16   alright and chip tell us about Thor well [TS]

00:26:20   speaking of teenagers and superpowers [TS]

00:26:22   Marvel store isn't exactly faithful to [TS]

00:26:25   Norse mythology I made the mistake when [TS]

00:26:27   i was in high school of sharing a common [TS]

00:26:29   authority comic with a friend who was an [TS]

00:26:31   exchange student from Norway and he [TS]

00:26:34   laughed at me very very hard so okay [TS]

00:26:38   granted but that's not the point the [TS]

00:26:39   point of Thor is that he this character [TS]

00:26:43   straddle the line between myth and [TS]

00:26:44   science fiction timelessly encompassing [TS]

00:26:47   the ancient past sorcery and space opera [TS]

00:26:51   he's he's Marvel Superman but he's more [TS]

00:26:53   than that because he shifts from these [TS]

00:26:55   world from world to world he's got not [TS]

00:26:58   only his own power but the power of his [TS]

00:27:00   hammer that first batches you then frys [TS]

00:27:03   you with lightning he's Noble and he's [TS]

00:27:05   coming but he's not a rocket scientist [TS]

00:27:08   he's not that smart but more than any [TS]

00:27:10   other character in this entire bracket [TS]

00:27:12   all 64 slots [TS]

00:27:14   this is the most epic superhero of them [TS]

00:27:17   all [TS]

00:27:18   alright Steve what do you think [TS]

00:27:20   I can I don't know man thor I just I [TS]

00:27:26   remember looking at those comic books as [TS]

00:27:27   a kid and and shaking my head and saying [TS]

00:27:30   well who would read that and yet when [TS]

00:27:36   the when the opposing viewpoint is he's [TS]

00:27:39   a teenager with powers [TS]

00:27:41   that's not much of a fight being put up [TS]

00:27:43   against Thor you already putting the [TS]

00:27:47   horse Thor do you need human Thor as [TS]

00:27:49   well [TS]

00:27:50   oh yeah that's it that's the other thing [TS]

00:27:51   that's an awful lot of Thor's but his [TS]

00:27:53   horse door wreath or I mean is he really [TS]

00:27:56   highlighting not really selling Hawkeye [TS]

00:27:58   & Co Hawkeye can God created Thoris and [TS]

00:28:01   even God could not stand [TS]

00:28:03   I don't know you know in the end I gotta [TS]

00:28:05   go with my my youthful gut which would [TS]

00:28:09   which would actually I feel compelled to [TS]

00:28:12   look away when I would see a Thor comic [TS]

00:28:14   in the store so it's invincible all the [TS]

00:28:16   way all right Phil chip [TS]

00:28:20   yes if I may call you that you may I [TS]

00:28:23   encourage it or not Tony which is that [TS]

00:28:27   you have been given a thankless task [TS]

00:28:30   defending Thor who is objectively the [TS]

00:28:36   very worst but my thorax configure on [TS]

00:28:42   the Shelf staring back at me next to my [TS]

00:28:45   beta ray bill action figure i'll have [TS]

00:28:47   you know of course objects you betrayed [TS]

00:28:50   the member of that action figure chip if [TS]

00:28:53   I mean call you try to lift it now you [TS]

00:28:57   cannot for you're not worthy do not know [TS]

00:28:59   if you're going against nova i do not [TS]

00:29:01   know if you're going up against [TS]

00:29:03   invincible [TS]

00:29:03   I do not care I i hate door and size is [TS]

00:29:07   probably bad for not work [TS]

00:29:10   wow wow [TS]

00:29:13   invincible moves I'll for goes home huge [TS]

00:29:16   about their it's a spite of that this is [TS]

00:29:18   the best upsets yes Latveria dude you [TS]

00:29:21   never know in this brown anything happen [TS]

00:29:23   library you and crazy region yes in H so [TS]

00:29:28   we move on to my mother shaking my head [TS]

00:29:30   I can remember with this here's a good [TS]

00:29:32   one [TS]

00:29:33   seven seed black panther or goodbye chip [TS]

00:29:36   vs 10 seed Nightcrawler our goodbyes [TS]

00:29:39   Monty Monty you may go first [TS]

00:29:42   Nightcrawler is a teleporting [TS]

00:29:44   swashbuckler with one of the most [TS]

00:29:47   distinctive sound effects in comic book [TS]

00:29:49   history that would be enough for anybody [TS]

00:29:51   but he's also a german guy who looks [TS]

00:29:54   like a demon which means you can have [TS]

00:29:56   lots of Catholic imagery if daredevil [TS]

00:29:58   isn't using it all [TS]

00:29:59   he was an essential part of the x-men [TS]

00:30:02   reboot in 1975 when they just shoved [TS]

00:30:04   people from every country they could [TS]

00:30:06   think of into the group and he's also a [TS]

00:30:09   fun part of the comic book of fun part [TS]

00:30:11   of the movies rather with alan cumming [TS]

00:30:13   and also he says unglaublich a lot i [TS]

00:30:17   highly recommend staying on global also [TS]

00:30:19   nice fire [TS]

00:30:20   nice car he's part of Chris Claremont's [TS]

00:30:23   a style of writing which is whatever [TS]

00:30:25   nationality you are you have to say a [TS]

00:30:27   word from that language once per page is [TS]

00:30:30   true too far more night crawler won't [TS]

00:30:36   you write my collar band what was the [TS]

00:30:38   old Banff is the band's sound effect and [TS]

00:30:41   there's little pop brimstone yes and [TS]

00:30:45   then he teleports to a national park [TS]

00:30:46   never really explained why it smells [TS]

00:30:48   like brimstone is just there [TS]

00:30:49   it's the the dimension that he travels [TS]

00:30:51   through is a brimstone dimension [TS]

00:30:53   apparently it's because of the Catholic [TS]

00:30:54   imagery chip Black Panther ladies and [TS]

00:30:58   gentlemen I give you to cholla the Black [TS]

00:31:00   Panther the first black superhero in [TS]

00:31:03   mainstream American comics he is the [TS]

00:31:05   ruler of the fictional high-tech african [TS]

00:31:07   nation of Wakanda which is concealed [TS]

00:31:10   from the outside world [TS]

00:31:12   he made his debut in fantastic 452 when [TS]

00:31:15   he invited the FF to his country and [TS]

00:31:17   promptly defeated all of them including [TS]

00:31:20   the thing just to test whether he could [TS]

00:31:23   take out his enemy at a later date [TS]

00:31:26   that's pretty badass he's got super [TS]

00:31:29   senses Olympic strength and agility [TS]

00:31:31   he's also one of the eight smartest [TS]

00:31:33   people on the planet he's got a PhD in [TS]

00:31:35   physics he's an inventor on par with [TS]

00:31:37   tony stark and he's a bloody King so I [TS]

00:31:41   don't know how they're going to make a [TS]

00:31:43   movie with this character because he's [TS]

00:31:44   just too damn perfect he's like [TS]

00:31:46   Ozymandias [TS]

00:31:47   from the watchman except he's not crazy [TS]

00:31:50   all hail the king alright well what do [TS]

00:31:54   you think [TS]

00:31:55   check who is not tony raises a number of [TS]

00:31:58   excellent points however i would like to [TS]

00:32:05   see in point of counter-argument BAM [TS]

00:32:09   I rule in favor of Nightcrawler Steve [TS]

00:32:14   what do you think [TS]

00:32:15   yeah I had me a teleporting swashbuckler [TS]

00:32:19   Monty Nightcrawler for me tail [TS]

00:32:21   Wow night crawler takes it and our last [TS]

00:32:24   matchup in the first round ladies and [TS]

00:32:26   gentlemen number two seed in the [TS]

00:32:28   envelope very region Wolverine to be [TS]

00:32:31   argued by Monty against number 15 see [TS]

00:32:35   the is it [TS]

00:32:36   tigra or Tigra and already we know the [TS]

00:32:39   air in the cartoon it's pronounced as [TS]

00:32:44   Tyra alright Andy you may go [TS]

00:32:47   since you are the underdog just like as [TS]

00:32:50   one of the people said that the thing is [TS]

00:32:53   his favorite character Tigers mother of [TS]

00:32:55   my favorite certainly Marvel because [TS]

00:32:58   she's just cool okay she's she's strong [TS]

00:33:00   and fast as spider-man she also has [TS]

00:33:02   enhanced senses means but she's also a [TS]

00:33:04   cat based superhero but she's not a [TS]

00:33:06   woman in a cat costume she is [TS]

00:33:08   fifty-eight percent cap she started out [TS]

00:33:10   as a human [TS]

00:33:11   she went through an experience 10 years [TS]

00:33:13   ago and Concord continuity that she [TS]

00:33:16   decided that look I'm gonna die you can [TS]

00:33:18   either go live on as a monster or i can [TS]

00:33:20   go on as myself to go on as a dead [TS]

00:33:21   person I'd much rather be a monster that [TS]

00:33:23   she been so low character for most [TS]

00:33:26   career so she's not really tied into [TS]

00:33:28   that as an appendage of of another [TS]

00:33:31   character she is a fighter she has a [TS]

00:33:33   linear story which he doesn't have to [TS]

00:33:35   like today which wasn't reinvented 12 [TS]

00:33:37   times but the thing is like spider-man [TS]

00:33:39   she's super powered but she can be hurt [TS]

00:33:41   so she's not about healing power social [TS]

00:33:44   survived everything so although she's [TS]

00:33:46   fights alongside she-hulk she's got more [TS]

00:33:48   skin in the game than she hoped so I [TS]

00:33:50   just think that she's fabulous character [TS]

00:33:53   that could be an a-list if you put her [TS]

00:33:55   in the right character right writers [TS]

00:33:56   hands [TS]

00:33:57   ok and Wolverine Monty [TS]

00:33:59   first of all speaking of iconic sound [TS]

00:34:02   effects i will just say snikt Wolverine [TS]

00:34:06   is the coolest character and the x-men [TS]

00:34:08   is the one that made the team gel [TS]

00:34:12   because he did hes this immortal loner [TS]

00:34:16   with cool claws and rage issues and he [TS]

00:34:19   can bounce off the other people [TS]

00:34:20   he's the one that gives the leader [TS]

00:34:22   people like Cyclops storm somebody to [TS]

00:34:25   show their leadership on he's the one [TS]

00:34:27   that lets a naive character like kitty [TS]

00:34:29   pryde i have a reason to because she [TS]

00:34:32   provides softness to him and he provides [TS]

00:34:35   her with a reason to go to Japan is the [TS]

00:34:41   best expression of a comic book [TS]

00:34:43   character who ought to be a psychopathic [TS]

00:34:45   murderer but is constantly struggling to [TS]

00:34:47   be a good guy i think that's more [TS]

00:34:49   interesting than carriage or just good [TS]

00:34:51   or bad because that's what the story [TS]

00:34:52   requires them to be also come on ease [TS]

00:34:55   Wolverine alright Steve what do you [TS]

00:34:58   think [TS]

00:34:58   well as a person with multiple cats i'm [TS]

00:35:01   i'm very concerned about the veracity of [TS]

00:35:03   of tigress feline pedigree and he does [TS]

00:35:07   does tigra does she clean herself with [TS]

00:35:10   her tongue no she does not [TS]

00:35:14   okay that would be the other 42-percent [TS]

00:35:16   then that Welch and naughty cat she also [TS]

00:35:21   does consider fast food to be pray that [TS]

00:35:23   she's chasing then we'll eat so there's [TS]

00:35:25   the interesting right it does she poop [TS]

00:35:27   in a box of sand [TS]

00:35:28   no because generally where she lives [TS]

00:35:31   there are plumbing fixtures and I think [TS]

00:35:32   Wolverine does that help you decide [TS]

00:35:35   well i swayed me Wolverine is all right [TS]

00:35:42   Phil I'm Phil last one you can do this [TS]

00:35:46   power through it [TS]

00:35:47   bill is pooping in a box of sand right [TS]

00:35:49   now Monty yes sir would you say that [TS]

00:35:58   Wolverine is the Raphael of the x-men or [TS]

00:36:02   is he in our dough i would say he is the [TS]

00:36:06   Rafael yeah interesting it is an [TS]

00:36:10   interesting course of advocacy that andy [TS]

00:36:14   has taken in that he did not point out [TS]

00:36:16   the entirely lame plot where Wolverine [TS]

00:36:20   becomes a samurai or any of the other [TS]

00:36:24   horrible things that they have made [TS]

00:36:26   Wolverine do because everyone is gaga [TS]

00:36:29   over Wolverine however Monty's words [TS]

00:36:34   have moved me to allow Wolverine to pass [TS]

00:36:38   into the next round i say wolverine [TS]

00:36:40   wolverine so it so it is written so [TS]

00:36:43   shall the birds will $500 doing good yes [TS]

00:36:46   it is listed as well as the area it's [TS]

00:36:48   but you missed your chance [TS]

00:36:50   alright we have we have taken the field [TS]

00:36:51   of 64 1032 I we've accomplished [TS]

00:36:55   something i'm not quite sure why but [TS]

00:36:57   it's something we will accomplish like [TS]

00:36:58   it's very proud of but we've definitely [TS]

00:37:00   got stuck I why do we start with 64 [TS]

00:37:02   Jesus it is going on what is going on [TS]

00:37:05   with the gap it isn't point of fact the [TS]

00:37:07   coolest X and clear what are you taking [TS]

00:37:10   away from passing the playing games are [TS]

00:37:12   like 67 I'll never live that lost down [TS]

00:37:14   I'll never live that wind down i was [TS]

00:37:16   going to suggest that Jason read out the [TS]

00:37:18   names of every superhero that one and [TS]

00:37:21   then the what names of every superhero [TS]

00:37:22   that loss so we know that going on [TS]

00:37:25   well then maybe they'll walk away is the [TS]

00:37:27   only man theme from the whole conclusion [TS]

00:37:29   I would like to thank my participants [TS]

00:37:32   tonight Steve let's and Phil Michaels [TS]

00:37:35   thank you for being our judges [TS]

00:37:36   india echo chips understand more and [TS]

00:37:38   Lisa Schmeisser Monty ashley and Tony [TS]

00:37:41   sindelar who is Tony not not Tony thank [TS]

00:37:44   you for being our participants thanks to [TS]

00:37:46   everybody out there for sneaking and why [TS]

00:37:50   they're not somebody watching and we [TS]

00:37:53   will see you in the future when a result [TS]

00:37:56   more issues involving superheroes we [TS]

00:37:59   want listeners to participate in next [TS]

00:38:00   round to fill out a ballot visit the [TS]

00:38:02   incomparable calm / 25 5d and you'll see [TS]

00:38:07   our show notes they'll be a link there [TS]

00:38:09   to a Google Form and you can vote [TS]

00:38:12   goodbye Super Friends that was that was [TS]

00:38:15   those three hours to everybody [TS]