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subepisode t Comic Con 2015 welcome back
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everybody to be uncomfortable i'm your
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host Jason L this is the fourth bracket
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in our summer superhero spectacular
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tournament where we pit superheroes
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against one another
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learn nothing and eventually they'll be
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a winner but not yet this is only the
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first round
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anyway thanks for joining us and be sure
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to look at the show notes where you'll
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see a link to a printable superhero
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bracket and a way that you can
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participate in future rounds be Latveria
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region is up how did like very can spit
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this has to be a set bladder thing
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no no it definitely was not step ladder
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with his totally normal name
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uh number one this is the iron matchup
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number one in this region is ironman
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argued by dan vs number 16 iron fist
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argued by Tony Tony you may be our first
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ironman i mean i'd fit but wait what I
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this system is crooked yes I very
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regional library yeah totally legit so
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iron fist may not be one of your most
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well-known superheroes know what indeed
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some point
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ok so Danny Rand is iron fist and he is
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a little bit
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iron man and a little bit daredevil he
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is your typical billionaire
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industrialist playboy except he also
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knows kung foo and not just cou magic
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tongue foo he does spend a lot of time
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trying to keep the streets of New York
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safe but he also spent some time in
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mystical realm was helping navigate kind
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weird otherworldly politics between the
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Seven Cities of heaven which all have
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their own various super-powered warriors
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who advocate for them and represent the
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midden mystic internal politics anything
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like it he fights inches thank you to
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Dan iron man
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well I mean you know Iron Man Tony Stark
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you know I'm you like him or you don't
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I mean he's got a shot probably you feel
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narcissistic alcohol abuser
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I mean you know he's he's he's not a
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perfect person but you know he he tries
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his best and and he does so with the
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help of his intellect and his super
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power armor and I think you know let's
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not overlook that he he built his
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initial suit of armor
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well a prisoner of war in in your
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Vietnam or or Afghanistan depending on
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which the continuity prefer to use which
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is pretty badass you know just out of
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like what's lying around and that he is
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you know been a pivotal character in the
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entirety of the Marvel Universe with his
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team membership and everything from the
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Avengers to the guardians of the galaxy
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so you know iron man in summation is
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just sort of like without him the Marvel
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Universe just doesn't run all right
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wow I just looked up iron fist and had
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flashbacks of my youth I did not
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remember the name but I remember the
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costume and the character the rich
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Corinthian leather of his chest area i
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did a while back line right is it
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appears essence party collar is very
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stylish as well it appears that is his
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fist is iron fists actually burst into
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flame is that correct yeah yeah I had
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nothing on his you haven't like that
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almost mythical no imagery that's that
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that's the magic comes apart the magic
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and food party yeah it seems today I get
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this thing on his chest burns with fire
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energy to it almost like a batman symbol
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with that's what's that about
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well it interacts like the dragon he
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basically fought and defeated a dragon
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and gained its power
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really yeah wow yeah turns out the other
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guy who wanted to fight the dragon gains
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power really angry about it they fight
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later and on the other side we got
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millionaire playboy in
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suit how many dragons has he beaten I
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just asking all of them just as one
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also there is present in this court for
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treating badly a genius who's a total
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I feel like they point out of these
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heroes are genius and networking trucks
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no one cares about Reed Richards it's
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still I think I gotta go iron man as
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cool as iron fist is and I I he is
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extremely cool i'm going in
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no mr. send the lab I have a question
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I feel like I'm in junior high again
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oh because of all the comic books know
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his people say my name rock my question
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come on is that a question your honor it
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is a question come on come on
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it is the ground irish mist the question
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didn't do so well the answer is ironman
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but not all you know sometimes the first
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he has to agree with the 16 god what I
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think Iron Fist was under ranked out
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seed but i will tell you that over the
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top seeding tough seeing I was gonna ask
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dan is he live or dead has your thoughts
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within his head but I didn't need to
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even get that's okay that's five losses
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in a row over Tony and Tony its Latveria
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yeah that's right it's all fixed
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I know there were eight verses number 9
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matchup here Dan Morgan will be arguing
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gambit vs chip sudderth not Tony who
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will be hard to in phoenix
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dan you may go first alright let's let's
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all agree that in in many ways gambit
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maybe the worst but that said I like
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your thinking threshold
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yea yea so lots of room for growth I
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think what what I particularly like
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about gambit is that his superpower is
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actually really cool the idea that he
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can like charge any object with kinetic
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energy and basically make it explode is
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pretty sweet
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choosing a deck of playing cards let's
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admit that's like a style / practicality
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choice like yeah it's a cool sort of
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theme thing going on but it's not really
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super convenient to throw playing cards
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so like that might be a tactical error
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that said
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Remy LeBeau is my way back up back up
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back up
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you know what is it with the playing
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cards i have no idea what you're talking
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about here
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yeah mp3 some it was playing cards and
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they explode because he charges them
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with energy but then but he can do that
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with any object you can touch an object
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in charge it with kinetic energy that
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causes it to explode just playing cards
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are like things exploding playing cards
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yes he does
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that's the thing he does he also has a
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staff that that telescopes and he's my
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alright that's not that if that's a
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superpower that Steve love I feel that
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my argument was derailed but i will just
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say you guys started i right
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I enjoy it especially his betrayal in
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the nineteen nineties x-men animated
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series thank you Dan chip Phoenix there
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was there's no way
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well you have given me one of the most
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confusing characters in the edge x-men
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franchise to try to advocate for I'm not
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going to tell you about how one of the
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original x-men jean grey marble girl
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encountered this Phoenix force and was
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transformed into the x-men's first
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cosmic character instead i'm going to
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tell you about how about my wife
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Shannon's roommate in grad school mutual
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friend told us how he first met this
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sobbing uncontrollably in a classroom
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and when he asked her what was wrong she
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said they just killed Jean play this was
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at the height of chris claremont to run
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of the x-men when he and john byrne had
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created the world's greatest superhero
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soap opera a universe almost to itself
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within the Marvel Universe phoenix was
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one of the most powerful characters in
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Marvel one-half of the most star-crossed
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love affair in Marvel and to this day I
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can't tell you whether phoenix was Jean
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Grey or a copy of Jean Grey or whatever
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it says it's just too confusing
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phoenix better than gambit alright
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that's wrong tournament would have been
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stronger if he done a gambit impression
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yeah Phil what are your thoughts
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I believe I speak for the universe when
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I say that gambit is perhaps the coolest
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of the x-men well Oh No beloved by all
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yeah that's that
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super run no interviews I've got nothing
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left to lose here followed by anyone who
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played the nineteen nineties video game
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where you could fire off those cards and
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I was pretty sweet damage
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Cherie I rule in favor of gannett right
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I just so she did not see that coming
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but I'm pretty psyched about it and uh
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Steve well I've just pulled up the
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picture of gambit wearing he's wearing a
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pink teddy which appears to be his
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primary costume i'm not sure why that
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wasn't mentioned it's well mrs. got a
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variety of candles got a variety of
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benefits with a lot of them do involve a
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liberal use of fuchsia steve is very
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wardrobe based on his determination
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yeah it's well it says a lot about a
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character would not how hot is the
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superhero Steve but the hotness does not
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come into it with gambit olotels with
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you know something you don't wanna start
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to get played by Channing Tatum that
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won't buy it soon any direction
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I don't even know who that is okay here
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we go that helps a lot
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so your wife's former roommate ship
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makes a very compelling case for Phoenix
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but can be so stupid i'm looking at him
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he throws playing cards that blow all
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the coolest of the x-men Steve oh my god
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i think you may be right Phil better
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this Cyclops better than beasts better
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perhaps than Wolverine he's so lamely
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wraps around cool again it's hard to
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believe but I'm going to gamma not
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everybody can relax
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gambit has arrived yeah but advance to
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the next round because you just want to
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see him get killed by a much more
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powerful character than was available
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right possible we all I don't disagree
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with that logic
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it will probably be iron man in the next
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round with dan arguing for ironman &
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Gamble that'll be it could be now we
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move to match up between carol danvers
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as Captain Marvel she's the number five
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seed argued by Monty vs. then grim the
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ever-lovin blue-eyed thing number 12
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seed from straight out of Brooklyn
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argued by an do not go Andy you may go
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ladies and gentlemen there is this thing
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called heart you either have heart or
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you don't have heart that is the ability
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to keep on fighting when there is
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nothing to tell you that you can
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clint barton the original Hawkeye good
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you're not write x times sake
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god damn Akash is to just to just to
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unlimited 2 and also reader and he's up
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barda argued by Monty Monty you may go
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was raised to be a villain
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she was one of Darkseid's warriors but
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scot-free who can escape from anything
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and they fell in love and they scot-free
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they come up with the artery is not on
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trial here
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the point is big barda who is way cooler
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she's as strong as wonder woman but
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unlike one woman she's usually drawn so
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she looks like someone who's strong
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she's not like she hulk side that she
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beefy and muscular and she's usually
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pretty cheerful about everything even
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though she's fighting the biggest evil
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in the universe which I appreciate the
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comic book character big bird is a lot
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of fun right Tony and she's not Hawkeye
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Your Honor I I'm floor you I like what
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you're telling me you can go ahead
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all right click click pardon is Hawkeye
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he is another guy who's amazing with a
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bone he's not just maybe you have a
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narrow thank God we have 10 this one is
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an orphan
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he's an orphan who runs away from the
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orphanage to join a carnival but that
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carnival evil they train him to be an
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assassin and then he decides I'm not
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gonna be an assassin
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I'm gonna be a superhero who's really
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good at archery and he tags along with
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the Avengers even though he's not nearly
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as tough as any of them and you know he
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life he has trouble paying ret he needs
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to talk to Tony Stark about how to hook
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up his DVR he is a guy we can all relate
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he could be your neighbor if your
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percentages you should still see about
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the costume
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i steamed i'm sure you're already
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looking up the image for his costume so
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with his costumes are pretty good no I'm
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sorry I stopped on the big barda costume
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yeah you did your honor president spoke
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they were kidding me save you owe it to
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yourself to look at the purple the
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purple Hawkeye costume
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ya see if you may go first Oh Jason
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Jason Jason Steve sleeve do mr. Chandler
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make some strong points who Anthony
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clear on reaching for whatever i can i
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can come up with
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did we pick the other Hawkeye forget we
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did what we did pick the other Hawkeye m
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/ green lantern full Wow injustice that
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he'll decided that I did I decided that
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10 is a ryan reynolds I has just one too
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many hot guys big barda it is what Phil
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case the judgment of a Sesame Street
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okay help me in which cookie monster
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points out to mock I cucumbers cool yuzu
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kini I little favor of big barda haha a
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massive upset their big bird moves on
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Hawkeye master home
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clint barton goes home k Bishop remains
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that button can't even win it like know
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the answer to form true to form
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alright we move on to the next round
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rock guy number six seed is Rorschach
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from watch men he will be argued by
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Monty number 11 seed storm from the
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x-men argued by Lisa Lisa you get to go
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first i'm not familiar with that
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character is some kind of question
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ripoff is that
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possibly oh but Lisa first with storm
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alright i have yet another omega4 mutant
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this one is one whose power allows her
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to perceive the world in terms of energy
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observe weather patterns and even the
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signals of the neurons in your brain so
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she can create a hurricane in your brain
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if she disagrees with what you're doing
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she can affect the world on a micro
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one of the more nurturing members
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she is also risen to a leadership
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capacity and tried to take the team away
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heck of it type of ethos and more
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it makes sense to do so ethos which is
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refreshing when punching is your first
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language and diplomacy she has been
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married to some dude with Canada for a
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while she's been not married she's had
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adventure she did a gambit for a while I
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don't know if that's a point in your
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favor not but i feel like i should
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mention anyway uh huh
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anyway she's super she's super cool
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she's super powerful and unlike say
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Cyclops when she says she's leader of
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the team she actually walks the walk
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she holds herself responsible for her
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decisions and her definition of
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leadership is making sure that everybody
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full potential
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balance of self-assurance and
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selflessness
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I think she's great all right Monty the
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question was created by a weirdo named
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steve ditko wanted to use comic books
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about objectivism then he was turned
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named alan moore who wanted to use comic
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no it didn't so actually though watchman
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looking into weird things and was vital
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to see what a really paranoid loon would
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look like I think Jackie Earle Haley was
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actually the best part of the watchman
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movie showing in person
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what a crazy
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the guy this would be and how it's not
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somebody you want to hang out with but
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it is a nutcase who gets things done and
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I think Rorschach
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in addition is a great name for the
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character because what you see in him is
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only what you bring to the table is he a
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horrible monster who ruined comic books
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by breaking them to darken to Metta well
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maybe the monster is you know yet
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it's definitely something is any
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question about that Phil you the monster
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I am a monster yeah i thought so what
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are your votes iron monster who does not
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even think that were shack is the most
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interesting person
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watchmen that would be the comedian i'm
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afraid i must rule in favor of storm
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Steve well you know storm
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what can you say mean the weather is
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like sixty-three percent of the earth
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like the weather outside steve is
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frightful but the fire is so delightful
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how we are not we are not representing
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the human torch in this case as I
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understand haha ah but storm
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I you know I'm sorry but bro shock yet
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you drew a tough one here he's a he's
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way too pivotal character for me to to
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go against against him so I gotta go
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Rorschach that leaves it for me to
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decide then
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herma Hill ridings pain i'm gonna figure
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out shack
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wow how someday they're gonna ask could
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you please vote my character through
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into the next round
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look down at them and say no I like
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storm the best when she didn't have
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powers you know that were shocked smells
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like the subway that's what gets to me
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like the question has a dry clean
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yeah he eats a cold cans of various
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foods to Angel suit perhaps be 90 human
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yeah it's like once you've had a
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roommate like the question really for
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Shaq it really takes a lot of the joy
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out of it such a question whatever
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all right next round number three seed
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Thor will be argued by chip
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who successfully argued for beta ray
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bill earlier number 14 seed is a result
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of a plan
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Monty who is the winner of the plan game
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between nova and invincible
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well they're both due to can fly and
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have a lot of bonus powers but I give
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the edge to invincible on the grounds
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that the name invincible could be a
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strength while nova is an exploding star
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who wants to be an exploding star that
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sounds dangerous
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mainly doesn't go in Spanish which is
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not at all right
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invincible you think Chevy would have
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noticed that Monty police argue for
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invincible invincible is 18 superhero
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who actually looks like a teenager
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that's the core of my argument that a
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lot of people in comic books are
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described as teenagers but then act like
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adults or talk like 60 year old writers
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think teenagers talk but I invincible
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provides a level of realistic
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characterization that DC and Marvel tend
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not to be able to deliver with their top
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line heroes is an actual teenager with
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superpowers
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alright and chip tell us about Thor well
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speaking of teenagers and superpowers
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Marvel store isn't exactly faithful to
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Norse mythology I made the mistake when
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i was in high school of sharing a common
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authority comic with a friend who was an
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exchange student from Norway and he
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laughed at me very very hard so okay
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granted but that's not the point the
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point of Thor is that he this character
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straddle the line between myth and
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science fiction timelessly encompassing
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the ancient past sorcery and space opera
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he's he's Marvel Superman but he's more
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than that because he shifts from these
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world from world to world he's got not
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only his own power but the power of his
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hammer that first batches you then frys
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you with lightning he's Noble and he's
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coming but he's not a rocket scientist
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he's not that smart but more than any
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other character in this entire bracket
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all 64 slots
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this is the most epic superhero of them
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alright Steve what do you think
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I can I don't know man thor I just I
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remember looking at those comic books as
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a kid and and shaking my head and saying
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well who would read that and yet when
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the when the opposing viewpoint is he's
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a teenager with powers
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that's not much of a fight being put up
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against Thor you already putting the
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horse Thor do you need human Thor as
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oh yeah that's it that's the other thing
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that's an awful lot of Thor's but his
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horse door wreath or I mean is he really
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highlighting not really selling Hawkeye
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& Co Hawkeye can God created Thoris and
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even God could not stand
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I don't know you know in the end I gotta
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go with my my youthful gut which would
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which would actually I feel compelled to
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look away when I would see a Thor comic
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in the store so it's invincible all the
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way all right Phil chip
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yes if I may call you that you may I
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encourage it or not Tony which is that
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you have been given a thankless task
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defending Thor who is objectively the
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very worst but my thorax configure on
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the Shelf staring back at me next to my
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beta ray bill action figure i'll have
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you know of course objects you betrayed
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the member of that action figure chip if
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I mean call you try to lift it now you
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cannot for you're not worthy do not know
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if you're going against nova i do not
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know if you're going up against
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invincible
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I do not care I i hate door and size is
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probably bad for not work
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wow wow
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invincible moves I'll for goes home huge
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about their it's a spite of that this is
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the best upsets yes Latveria dude you
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never know in this brown anything happen
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library you and crazy region yes in H so
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we move on to my mother shaking my head
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I can remember with this here's a good
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seven seed black panther or goodbye chip
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vs 10 seed Nightcrawler our goodbyes
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Monty Monty you may go first
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Nightcrawler is a teleporting
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swashbuckler with one of the most
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distinctive sound effects in comic book
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history that would be enough for anybody
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but he's also a german guy who looks
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like a demon which means you can have
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lots of Catholic imagery if daredevil
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isn't using it all
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he was an essential part of the x-men
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reboot in 1975 when they just shoved
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people from every country they could
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think of into the group and he's also a
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fun part of the comic book of fun part
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of the movies rather with alan cumming
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and also he says unglaublich a lot i
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highly recommend staying on global also
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nice fire
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nice car he's part of Chris Claremont's
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a style of writing which is whatever
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nationality you are you have to say a
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word from that language once per page is
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true too far more night crawler won't
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you write my collar band what was the
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old Banff is the band's sound effect and
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there's little pop brimstone yes and
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then he teleports to a national park
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never really explained why it smells
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like brimstone is just there
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it's the the dimension that he travels
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through is a brimstone dimension
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apparently it's because of the Catholic
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imagery chip Black Panther ladies and
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gentlemen I give you to cholla the Black
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Panther the first black superhero in
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mainstream American comics he is the
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ruler of the fictional high-tech african
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nation of Wakanda which is concealed
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from the outside world
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he made his debut in fantastic 452 when
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he invited the FF to his country and
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promptly defeated all of them including
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the thing just to test whether he could
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take out his enemy at a later date
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that's pretty badass he's got super
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senses Olympic strength and agility
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he's also one of the eight smartest
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people on the planet he's got a PhD in
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physics he's an inventor on par with
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tony stark and he's a bloody King so I
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don't know how they're going to make a
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movie with this character because he's
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just too damn perfect he's like
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Ozymandias
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from the watchman except he's not crazy
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all hail the king alright well what do
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you think
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check who is not tony raises a number of
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excellent points however i would like to
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see in point of counter-argument BAM
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I rule in favor of Nightcrawler Steve
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what do you think
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yeah I had me a teleporting swashbuckler
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Monty Nightcrawler for me tail
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Wow night crawler takes it and our last
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matchup in the first round ladies and
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gentlemen number two seed in the
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envelope very region Wolverine to be
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argued by Monty against number 15 see
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the is it
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tigra or Tigra and already we know the
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air in the cartoon it's pronounced as
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Tyra alright Andy you may go
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since you are the underdog just like as
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one of the people said that the thing is
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his favorite character Tigers mother of
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my favorite certainly Marvel because
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she's just cool okay she's she's strong
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and fast as spider-man she also has
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enhanced senses means but she's also a
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cat based superhero but she's not a
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woman in a cat costume she is
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fifty-eight percent cap she started out
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as a human
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she went through an experience 10 years
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ago and Concord continuity that she
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decided that look I'm gonna die you can
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either go live on as a monster or i can
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go on as myself to go on as a dead
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person I'd much rather be a monster that
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she been so low character for most
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career so she's not really tied into
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that as an appendage of of another
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character she is a fighter she has a
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linear story which he doesn't have to
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like today which wasn't reinvented 12
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times but the thing is like spider-man
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she's super powered but she can be hurt
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so she's not about healing power social
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survived everything so although she's
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fights alongside she-hulk she's got more
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skin in the game than she hoped so I
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just think that she's fabulous character
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that could be an a-list if you put her
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in the right character right writers
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ok and Wolverine Monty
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first of all speaking of iconic sound
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effects i will just say snikt Wolverine
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is the coolest character and the x-men
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is the one that made the team gel
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can bounce off the other people
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he's the one that gives the leader
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people like Cyclops storm somebody to
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show their leadership on he's the one
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that lets a naive character like kitty
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pryde i have a reason to because she
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best expression of a comic book
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character who ought to be a psychopathic
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murderer but is constantly struggling to
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be a good guy i think that's more
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interesting than carriage or just good
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or bad because that's what the story
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requires them to be also come on ease
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Wolverine alright Steve what do you
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i'm very concerned about the veracity of
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of tigress feline pedigree and he does
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does tigra does she clean herself with
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her tongue no she does not
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okay that would be the other 42-percent
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then that Welch and naughty cat she also
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does consider fast food to be pray that
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she's chasing then we'll eat so there's
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the interesting right it does she poop
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in a box of sand
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no because generally where she lives
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there are plumbing fixtures and I think
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Wolverine does that help you decide
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well i swayed me Wolverine is all right
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Phil I'm Phil last one you can do this
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power through it
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bill is pooping in a box of sand right
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now Monty yes sir would you say that
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Wolverine is the Raphael of the x-men or
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is he in our dough i would say he is the
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Rafael yeah interesting it is an
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interesting course of advocacy that andy
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has taken in that he did not point out
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the entirely lame plot where Wolverine
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becomes a samurai or any of the other
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horrible things that they have made
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Wolverine do because everyone is gaga
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over Wolverine however Monty's words
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have moved me to allow Wolverine to pass
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into the next round i say wolverine
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wolverine so it so it is written so
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shall the birds will $500 doing good yes
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it is listed as well as the area it's
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but you missed your chance
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alright we have we have taken the field
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of 64 1032 I we've accomplished
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something i'm not quite sure why but
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it's something we will accomplish like
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it's very proud of but we've definitely
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got stuck I why do we start with 64
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Jesus it is going on what is going on
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with the gap it isn't point of fact the
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coolest X and clear what are you taking
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away from passing the playing games are
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like 67 I'll never live that lost down
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I'll never live that wind down i was
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going to suggest that Jason read out the
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names of every superhero that one and
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then the what names of every superhero
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that loss so we know that going on
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well then maybe they'll walk away is the
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only man theme from the whole conclusion
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I would like to thank my participants
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tonight Steve let's and Phil Michaels
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thank you for being our judges
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india echo chips understand more and
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Lisa Schmeisser Monty ashley and Tony
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sindelar who is Tony not not Tony thank
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you for being our participants thanks to
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everybody out there for sneaking and why
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they're not somebody watching and we
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will see you in the future when a result
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more issues involving superheroes we
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want listeners to participate in next
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