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subepisode see Comic Con 2015 welcome
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back everybody to be uncomfortable i'm
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your host Jason snail we are engaged in
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a pursuit that is feudal in almost every
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way we're going to take 60 for
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superheroes down to one we're gonna find
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the best superhero ever
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we are in the midst of the first round
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of our 64 hero tournament in each
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regional bracket 16 heroes enter but
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only eight leave each hero has a
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representative from our panel and then
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the winner is chosen arbitrarily by our
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judges Steve lutz and Phillip Michaels
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we are going to go to Metropolis region
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now and number one seed Superman will be
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facing off against the winner of a plan
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match between fire and ice the human
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torch and Iceman Lisa who was the victor
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in the battle between human torch and
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Iceman Iseman had it Iseman as ice-1 in
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the end ok so Lisa Lisa you can you can
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defend Iceman if you will again Superman
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do my best here three words omega-level
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muted what that means is that Bobby
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Frost is one of the most powerful people
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in the marvel universe because he can
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control water across a variety of
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temperatures and in a variety of ways he
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can make tiny clones of himself ice
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clones and control those copies talk
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through them so what he can do is
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effectively create his own distributed
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physical autonomous networked
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intelligence that's a frightening and
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formidable power to have he can also
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manipulate water molecules and other
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people down at extremely tiny or
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incredible macro levels
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given how pervasive water is in almost
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any iteration of of the Marvel vs. the
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fact that body is able to manipulate it
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will to use it as a weapon against you
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in dt is your own body as a weapon
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against you to freeze where you are or
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to freeze the air around you and
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mobilizing you it makes me formidable
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foe but he has to go up against anyone
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and on the personal front
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he's a hell of a nice guy alright Andy
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Superman
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well there are not many characters that
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are at his level you could almost say
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that there's only one Superman i'm
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talking about a character this on the
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level of Sherlock Holmes or Frankenstein
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where the character is absolutely known
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everywhere on our planet he's a
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touchstone that every country every
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culture every class can appreciate and
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understand words from the Superman
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mythos like kryptonite are now in the
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concurrent the currency the popular
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lexicon free and he's an archetype I
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mean for decades you create a new
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character by saying well what if we take
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Superman but he's this and only he can
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do this and that's led to dozens of
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counters characters and ripoffs beyond
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that he's just a phenomenally rich
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character and he's an alien butt and his
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powers that are totally divorced from
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humanity but he was not raised to be
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Superman he was raised to be Clark Kent
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he is a good man at heart whose uneasy
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with the godhood that people on earth
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sometimes regard him with he's just want
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to do what's right sometimes that's
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misinterpreted as oh he's a goody
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two-shoes but that's just the
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frustration of someone who knows that
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yeah he's doing what's right he's just
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doing something that I'm not capable of
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he has a huge responsibility and he is
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such a great role model for everybody in
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the entire planet real and fictional
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there is only one Superman and when you
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have superman do you need anything else
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right Steve what do you think mm-hmm
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Superman omega-level overpowered hero
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well it was determined that his
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superpower isn't simply being really
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really strong and be able to fly
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it's that he is able to directly inside
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ionically manipulate the weather feature
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of the printer prion which means that
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and i lost my interest in that halfway
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through its you have took you that long
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ah boy you know I've always found
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Superman overpowered and therefore kind
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of boring but on the other hand he's so
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early that you can kind of forgive him
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for that
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on the other hand Iceman you know my
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love for characters that can control
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seventy percent of the earth's surface
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this is and i also i love the way he
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gets around he's a civic nuisance he
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leaves behind these enormous icebergs
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everywhere he goes which i bought this
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fact kind of like how much ice cream
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think it's their army service right now
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what upp turns a bit moisture into ice
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that's yeah it does
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yeah sit down mr. wizard that's when I
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mean it's freaking Superman so I gotta
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go with Superman right Phil fish miser
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and questions for you
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I look forward to this time for fighting
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did they sing a song about Bobby Bobby
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Frost Bobby Frost is in a whiner up his
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dog said yeah it was approaching say
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don't touch on Bobby Frost key a pic i
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think that we should actually that out
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on the ground of it being the artist in
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question also believe is Bobby 20 years
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ring with you're wrong
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yeah Bobby Frost is Robert Frost &
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poetry boy
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what if it was Robert Frost again
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Superman tell me did did the so-called
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Bobby Drake no insolence thinking on
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uber mensch probably yeah why not
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I check it by your silence their lives
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really easily the question are you
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talking about the übermensch science
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fiction story are you talking about the
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actual ideal as a spouse to me alive and
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talking about both mish-mosh do not try
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and plug the issue
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Bobby process day must look at
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everything which wanna get a very great
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brother ground rules are all the
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judgment is super super strong and
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counting on my desk
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welcome to fill up Michaels news solo
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show one angry met did Clark Kent ever
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pen such a glorious code as from birches
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that's what I'd like to know
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alright we're going to move on to
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another round between Lisa and this time
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Dan more'n that it is the Falcon number
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9 seed I hope for mismanages sake this
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is a better research argument and the
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atom from lisa dan you're the underdog
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with the Falcon it's a tight one
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you may go first alright Sam Wilson
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otherwise known as the falken he's he's
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had a number of different careers for
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one thing he go he was a criminal for a
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little while but he turned around his
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ways after being telepathic we merged
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with an actual falken people I i forfeit
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the match not found
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and now you know as if that was not
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enough you know a he partnered up with
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Captain America he was one of the first
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african-american superheroes like one
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this is the mainstream african-american
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superheroes and he has in recent years
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taking up the mantle of Captain America
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himself since Steve Rogers is like yeah
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I'm gonna go retire and collect the IRA
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that I've been saving for since I was
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trapped in ice many many years ago so
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the fact that he is it you know
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considered cool enough to you know today
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I would argue is cooler than Captain
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America's he can fly too so you know I
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mean it's like Captain America but
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so now that's pretty much I think when
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it comes down to
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I'll telepathic link with Vulcan right
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that Lisa the atom don't forget to
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mention he's made of atoms that seems
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important
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Ray Palmer can get very very tiny he has
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never emerged with a dolphin
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although I bet you he could shrink and
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get inside one maybe controls tidy p
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braid by Perkins Mandel time Adams said
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he wasn't so tiny maybe the file can be
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more interested in what you can say
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about Ray Palmer for good is that he's a
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scientist he's devoted citizen he has
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been a stalwart of Justice League for
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freaking ever he has slightly less
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ridiculous than a man and a 10 user yeah
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they tend to use the shrinky thing when
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it comes in handy i'm frank miller's use
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was particularly gruesome and
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interesting but what you basically have
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is somebody who's very smart who
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realizes that it's not the size of the
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broad it's actually being able to deploy
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the correct amount of force at the
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correct point so it's it's a nice
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balance between between brains tactics
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and purpose
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all right judges Phil please uh please
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give us your room that was such a
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passionate argument on behalf of Adam ok
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at i can only say good luck in the next
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round Falcon yeah but you version of
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Falcon how's this supposed to compete
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with her boy gets really tiny vs shares
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thoughts with a bird
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what to do what to do can Adam fly haha
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well yes because everyone can fly
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come on I mean I've doesn't have to be
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picked up and thrown a strong reason
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probably waffle weighs exactly see this
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is think he's tiny so he can just who he
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serve on the dorsal season that's it
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that's a major point in his favor the
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law stability factor now I like Falcon
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as you should dr. moves along i like
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talking to the circuit
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yeah I was really
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not kidding with islands around for
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appeal immediately ya a billion that has
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already been filed or I learned
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something i didn't know him
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yeah right next matchup Andy you're
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going to advocate for 5c Doctor Strange
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against Dan advocating another one of
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his valiant heroes number 12 seed XO
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Manowar dan you may go first
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alright so you know take iron man you
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think he's kind of lame though like
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here's how you make iron man cooler
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instead of being a like no snarky
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playboy guy in a suit of armor instead
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imagine that at some point a Visigoth is
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basically abducted by aliens steals one
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of their biggest super weapons which is
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in fact a a sentient suit of armor and
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then by the time he manages to escape
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his alien captors killing them all in
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the process ends up in the modern day
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with a like super powered suit of armor
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but he's still a barbarian
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yep that's pretty much it and yet that's
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that's what i got for XO Manowar right
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inspiring that is true entry now that's
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the cliffhanger there Dan so Andy Doctor
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Strange tell us about him
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pull off that 1940s mustache off
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secondly orange gloves with black spots
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on them near the near the cuffs again
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unprecedented but works completely well
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very very nicely now to know what if we
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have time left over to talk about his
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actual powers the fact that he is
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sorcerer supreme that is a title you
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want to get if you can put your own
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title on a business card no matter what
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it is you're going to go for source
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resistance Supreme if they're more than
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12 smart people in your company however
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someone has already taken it because it
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is the best title you can possibly have
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as the master manipulator of magic in
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the Marvel Universe thank you for for
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the in one sentence
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he's great because nobody understands
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how magic works you can have the
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greatest scientists in the world he's
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magical red
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cloak another point in favor and he
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drop some magic on you
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this is where the argument ends I have a
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few clarifying questions all right mr.
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Socko how would you rank dr. Strange's
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mustache versus the dad in the
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Invincibles I think you'll find he also
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has an impressive Mustang you mean doing
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the invincible
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yeah that is a bed is a powerful
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monsters that's how I was able to tell
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what you meant because he did Nolan
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invincible has a strong mustache
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it's like a magnet bi-level must and is
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it is magnum level is a he easy magnum
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level mustache
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it is a strong mustache dr. Strange's
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requires more grooming and effort so
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requires a lot more thought into more of
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a deliberate mustaches opposed to
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something that he simply trusted to
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genetics in the passage of time so i
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believe that if weather whether or not
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the mustaches better the man behind the
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mustache is a lot more ennobled by it
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Thank You mr. Morin yes does the XO and
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XO Manowar staying for hugs and kisses
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of course thank you
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crushing hugs and kisses I'm ready to
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issue my ruling
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yes I rule for Doctor Strange ok Steve
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what it sounds your dad about that you
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know i know dr. strange i love Doctor
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Strange it's such a goofy character and
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I really enjoy him although the fact
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Hitler mustache versus Charles Durning
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mustache that said Visigoths steals an
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alien suit of armor and returns to the
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man although I feel like it would almost
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be better if he had returned to his his
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the the other foreign armies is that
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that i think would have more amusing
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story line but i like it so this is a
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tough one but I'm gonna go with the
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underdog here Manowar alright well that
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leaves that leaves us with a tire first
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time in awhile means I get to break it
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compelling but i must say i have to
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with the sorcerer supreme soon-to-be
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honors thing and bleeps an action but
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really her role she will either a rush
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subway car when city lost power is now
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trying to walk to freedom even though
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there are gangs are probably the subway
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tunnels everywhere or if failing that
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she will rush out to a museum to steal
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stuff because the power is out and
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that's our one opportunity to get that
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bracelet that's 3,000 years old amount
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of gold that she's had an eye on she has
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the respect of Batman without having
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fallen under the spell of Batman and
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become part of the quote Batman family
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and she's she's satisfied being Catwoman
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when you're Catwoman that's all you need
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to be alright thank you Tony
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ok so then Edmonds the tick is basically
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wrong with him he spent considerable
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he's recently got out of before coming
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to the city and he hangs out with a
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bunch of characters who are kind of
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parodies of other superheroes like
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american-made and he has a sidekick who
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is a mosque but tends to his wings
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pulled into a little backpack and so he
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is frequently mistaken for a rabbit and
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he fights are some of the most
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ridiculous villains out there such as a
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guy who just has a chair for face and I
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a man eating cow in conclusion Spill
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also he's not invulnerable yes 99 Dalton
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full invulnerability he's not
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invulnerable
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all right judges Steve what are your
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thoughts a parody of superheroes a
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parody character how did a parody
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character get in here are you trying to
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make a mockery of the house in another
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building getting her that's gonna that's
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parody character vs villains we make a
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mockery of some mrs. this trial is a
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travesty of new Jam's of a mockery
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mmhmm yeah but that suit man that
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catwoman suit
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hmm not a costume dress stuff like very
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movie motorcycle boots label you have to
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you have to weigh the costume as a whole
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when you're it doesn't weigh very much
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that's a whole costume that's how are
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you complaining about linux costume now
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another thing leaves nothing to the
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imagination
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ah yeah i don't know i think tickets
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probably closer to hero then Catwoman so
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to be consistent i guess i've got to go
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almost my name is either one can answer
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that to flatter mouse your Batman well I
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i prefer the the comic version to the
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the tick moves on it by the skin of his
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teeth spoon add another be a quiz
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the joel schumacher movie on it
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anything could happen person said that
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Batman featuring Catwoman Selina Kyle
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michelle pfeiffer what about one of our
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one of our better catwomen one of our
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cow about what a revelation a great cat
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it's difficult to find for Catwoman when
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my butt on your midst instrument it's
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you don't have no idea how strong do you
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might want to consider that she'll send
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her minions against you have seen her
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millions I'm all for that
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moving on to number six are number six a
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participant is hell boy who will be
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invisible woman who will be argued by
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Lisa Lisa you're the underdog here you
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may go first
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people don't quit and a half after Reed
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rocks as if that weren't enough of a
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visibility in a force field are attacked
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a wide variety of clever ways not only
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for protective maneuvers and mechanisms
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but she's also use them to great effect
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for offensive maneuvers as well so you
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have somebody who is a diplomat of the
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highest order
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she's a tactician she's smart and she's
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focused on supporting her family group
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she really is one of the more underrated
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in the marble verse alright Tony cowboy
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detective and he wanders around the
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world basically dealing with mysteries
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around for a very very long time
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post-world war two he usually sometimes
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he has to use his kind of satchel of
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magic stuff to help with that sometimes
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he has a gun and sometimes he just
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punches them he has this foreboding
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prophecy where he has his right hand is
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this big stone hand while the rest of
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him is just a demon
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used to bring about the apocalypse if it
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falls into the wrong clutches
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so that's kind of scary there is kind of
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a difference between the movie in the
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comic version of the movie he's like
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this urban legend in the comics like
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everybody knows hellboy so hell Boyle to
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show up places and he'll be like on you
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know some farm in Ireland like the guy
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herd the sheep will be like Al boy will
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be like hey I'm here to here to fight
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that monster which way is it mom
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yeah all right hellboy Invisible Woman
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Phil what are your thoughts
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Mitch miser in 2005 you suggest that we
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go see fantastic for empathy i like to
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note that question be thrown out because
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it's just the question their 2005
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suggest we pay american dollars to see
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fantastic four in the theater I did you
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I rule in favor of mr. sin dolor my
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favorite Star Trek yes alright uh leave
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what are your thoughts about Lisa vs mr.
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Sandler we may be serious for a moment
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course and I by remember reading a
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fantastic four way back when she was
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still invisible girl and I always found
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her her story lines very compelling for
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the timeframe
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I think she's an early instance of a
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kind of what came later in the Buffy's
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of the world where I you know she was
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expected to sort of handle household
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side of things and later they're they're
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dumb baby the pickup only have to dumb
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babies i didn't even get on babies
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yeah and I always found that a little
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more intriguing than the standard man
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punches other man story lines of the of
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the time so I given that i must find for
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the Invisible Woman well that brings us
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to another tie which I have to break and
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I really think that Tony did a good job
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of describing the the strength of
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Hellboy however i am going to go with
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the invisible woman because I
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think that Sue Storm superstorm Richards
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is the by far the best character in the
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Fantastic Four and and really holds that
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holds it together and has the integrity
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and intelligence and is she's underrated
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and has lots of a kind of impressive
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powers on top of it so I think she's
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great she is questionable taste in
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spouses let's move on
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look so it's just read the building that
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was just fantastic
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that was just to dig it Andy because i
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really like the original iight that's
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how I interpreted don't worry yep the
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least let's move on number three in this
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region is the flash as personified by
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Barry Allen versus the question the
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flash will be advocated by Lisa the
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question advocated by Tony unless junior
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say the question and Tony here with the
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Tony sindelar question I ok the question
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is the question the question is a
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conspiracy theorist to end all
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conspiracy theorists you may not be
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familiar with the question but perhaps
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you're familiar with shock from watchman
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who is basically cribbed from the
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question and you know he basically he
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has a file on everybody he's figuring
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out all of the the machinations that are
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happening behind all the things that the
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bad things in the world he knows what
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the girl scouts are up to money will
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tell you that he knows that the things
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at the end of shoelaces are called
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aglets and that their true purpose is
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sinister that's the question
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alright very interesting and Lisa please
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tell us about Barry Allen the flash he
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has no needs of shoelaces or advocates
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and he's exactly not sinister Barry
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Allen was correctly described as a saint
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in the DC Universe this is not at all
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far off the mark
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he's possessed a super speed and can
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effectively manipulate time to go along
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with that
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however Barry has never used this power
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for anything other than trying to make
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the world a better place first he wanted
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to right wrongs since he grew up as a
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child scarred by injustice he grew up
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wanting to make the world a better place
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and to correct injustice brothers and
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then once you've got superpowers he used
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he used them to keep people out of
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danger and he's used them to alter
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timelines on occasion most often when he
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has to alter timelines it's at a great
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personal loss to him
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yourself but for a greater gained
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worldwide Barry exemplifies sacrifice he
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actually makes the idea of running seems
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super cool and he's one of the more
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chill personalities in the Marvel it
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excuse me in the DC Universe despite
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having a tremendous amount of temporal a
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and social responsibility on his whip it
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like shoulders the question also has a
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blue trenchcoat intended to the balance
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and Tony using the balance of his time
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at the air just put that in Steve what
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are your thoughts
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Tony the question these conspiracies
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that he knows about our duties in the
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context of the book do they actually pan
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out or is he just a nut but I Girl
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Scouts really up to something I i'm not
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super well read on the question i think
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it is usually sighs when one of his
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conspiracies ends up being legit I think
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real barbecue BBQ additional rhubarb but
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I i think it is usually a surprise for
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the viewer reader when he's on the right
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interesting well I have a surprise for
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you oh you know look I I know which way
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that flask is great somebody to start a
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podcast about and let you know what it
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is but you know a life free of Aglets
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that's that's like a dream come true you
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know i was i was thinking of leaning
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towards the question because nobody
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likes this ain't come on
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but since you clearly have not
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researched this character in any great
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detail I must do that
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no with the far better research and
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advocated for Barry Allen's flash out
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all right fill your thoughts we have a2
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derivative characters really we has a
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question who is the poor man's work
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shack quite quickly we have about Jason
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Jason Jason pursuit of our jacket over
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her shackles pretty much the rich man's
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question I i sent my assessment
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alright question we have a Barry Allen
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who is the poor man's jay garrick oh oh
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I what is going on in the end I must
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rule in favor of G Garrick
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ye Barry Allen the flash flash and
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visualize zips in to the next round we
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have two left in this region number
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seven seed ghostrider Johnny Blaze will
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be argued by Chip and oh hi hi hi chip
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and number 10 seed the Blue Beetle
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behind a race version will be argued by
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Tony sindelar Tony got it still make you
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make oh that's nice and all Tony it's
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tony all the way down leave her to stop
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only one and the one after that too
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yeah uh-huh i call for baby I'm ready
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alright Tony go for it so i have i'm
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arguing for the third Blue Beetle which
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is hi mere hisse on whereas earlier blue
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beetles are basically just Batman
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ripoffs Jaime Reyes is a he basically is
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merged with a scarab which turns out to
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be an alien artifact that gives them the
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ability to basically summon an alien
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power exoskeleton that also talks to him
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and he is basically a teenager growing
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up in Texas who now has to deal with
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having a scarab attached to him and
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being compelled to go out and use that
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to do good things and become a hero and
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it's got a lot of spider-man qualities
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to what I like in terms of a teenager
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dealing with his newfound power but with
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a kind of a neat twist in terms of not
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being set in New York and I'm being a
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character of color so all right lube
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yep chip ghostwriter well first of all
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for this character to still be around
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after the Nicolas Cage movies is nothing
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short of astounding that said take your
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mind back to the seventies the
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rebellious of motors the rebellious miss
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of motorcycle culture that was a thing
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and it was also more interest in
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anti-heroes ghost writer is something
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more way beyond the whole who's just a
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jekyll-and-hyde or wolfman kinda think
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Johnny Blaze great name Johnny Blaze
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sells his soul to the devil in order to
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save his dad and he's forced to torment
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evildoers and send them to hell his body
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transformed into a burning skeleton his
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motorcycle
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and hell fire and he's always at war
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with the demon who shares his body
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there's drama there's angst there's ja
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swing before joss whedon was joss whedon
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and there's a character who really
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deserves a movie that doesn't suck
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strong words Steve what are your
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thoughts about that movie sucks so bad
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to which one they were too well whatever
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remembers the second two guys to direct
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that Phil there was there was also like
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a black-and-white educational film
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called ghost writer about a girl who
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died on a school bus because she didn't
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pay attention to what the bus driver
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told her and she haunts other children
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who might mock the rules of the bus
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driver but i'm pretty sure that wasn't
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that wasn't bad enough with this
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oh boy i love the backstory of ghost
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rider his story has moved me I to and
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breathed in Hellfire so I didn't you
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know I can really understand what he's
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going through so i'm going to go with
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those right all right Phil what are your
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thoughts
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Tony raises some interesting points
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about Blue Beetle and his backstory not
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Tony reveals some interesting points
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about ghost rider chip seems like such a
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nice guy i don't why must stop these
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know Tony I must side with not Tony here
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is this is a new attempt to avoid saying
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my last name this and go closer writer
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okay so that's two that's to do nothing
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for ghost writer than okay
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yeah all right that's correct i'm
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feeling simultaneously affirmed and not
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Tony need your whether or not you know
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Tony but you want that one ship to you
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wouldn't know prize not Tony mm that's
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all you have to be is sometimes that's
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what I screw up everyday lol Tony you
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can take a break no you can't because
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you have to argue our next question
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great structuring last item in this
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region number two seed the Hulk will be
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all argued by Monty actually number he's
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going up against number 15 seed Booster
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Gold argued by Tony Tony tell us about
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Booster Gold
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Booster Gold may not be the greatest
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superhero of our time because he's not
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from our time he is from the future and
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he has come up from the future to our
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modern-day to be a superhero are using
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his various technologies that he brings
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from the future to use them in this
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modern-day and yes he does come here for
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kind of self-serving reasons because
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being a superhero and being rich and
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famous seems really great but he has to
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kind of overcome that and learn humility
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and do turns out when you show up for
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the Justice League and you're like the
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57th guy to show up for the Justice
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League they're not going to give you the
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nice assignments and you actually have
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to learn humility and and work your way
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up and you know he over time he he
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overcomes all of those and becomes more
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than just a narcissistic time-traveling
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con man all right Monty before begin may
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I ask the judges a question yes no
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judges possibly is there any chance i
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replicate you to focus solely on the
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comic book and not bring mark ruffalo or
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lou ferrigno into the argument
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not a chance on a chance now araucana
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can we talk about angry
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there's only one Hawking his name is
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Bill Bixby my friend the fact that
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you're even trying to to eliminate lou
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ferrigno from the equation is not a
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point in your favor i should point right
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then here is my argument
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o / thank you for your time
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well well argued sir money's words are
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as moving today as they were in his time
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however i would like to point out that i
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have a spec script for Booster Gold did
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I would like to introduce thing I will
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really profits from it so despite Tony
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saying that booster gold's not the
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greatest superhero our time when that is
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quite clearly not the case I was into my
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sentence I rule in favor of booster cold
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who is awesome and deserves his own
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movie that i will sell for a reasonable
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risk the ethical ryan reynolds a huge
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boost movement I know he'd love to see
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that script you can even say he's a
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booster booster thinking Jon Hamm
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and if his check clears I would love for
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him see Steve what are your thoughts
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well I gotta say Booster Gold was
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probably my favorite all-time Burt
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Reynolds role I got a moustache man
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oh but that said if if we send the Hulk
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packing i'm gonna have to hear that damn
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sad as he walks away and think through
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and I just I don't think I could take
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that right now so good to go for the
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bulk and that leaves it to me to make
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the deciding factor of whether we hear
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the sad music is that as Bruce Banner
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walks away sadly or whether we have to
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deal with booster gold for another round
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and sorry officer Phil I'm going with
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the home
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oh that would have been amazing
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it was so so close that ends the
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metropolis region
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tune in next time as we move on to the
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Latveria region until then I have been
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your host Jason Snell goodbye
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