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00:00:39   subepisode see Comic Con 2015 welcome [TS]

00:00:45   back everybody to be uncomfortable i'm [TS]

00:00:46   your host Jason snail we are engaged in [TS]

00:00:49   a pursuit that is feudal in almost every [TS]

00:00:52   way we're going to take 60 for [TS]

00:00:53   superheroes down to one we're gonna find [TS]

00:00:55   the best superhero ever [TS]

00:00:57   we are in the midst of the first round [TS]

00:00:59   of our 64 hero tournament in each [TS]

00:01:02   regional bracket 16 heroes enter but [TS]

00:01:05   only eight leave each hero has a [TS]

00:01:07   representative from our panel and then [TS]

00:01:09   the winner is chosen arbitrarily by our [TS]

00:01:12   judges Steve lutz and Phillip Michaels [TS]

00:01:14   we are going to go to Metropolis region [TS]

00:01:16   now and number one seed Superman will be [TS]

00:01:18   facing off against the winner of a plan [TS]

00:01:20   match between fire and ice the human [TS]

00:01:23   torch and Iceman Lisa who was the victor [TS]

00:01:25   in the battle between human torch and [TS]

00:01:28   Iceman Iseman had it Iseman as ice-1 in [TS]

00:01:32   the end ok so Lisa Lisa you can you can [TS]

00:01:36   defend Iceman if you will again Superman [TS]

00:01:40   do my best here three words omega-level [TS]

00:01:43   muted what that means is that Bobby [TS]

00:01:46   Frost is one of the most powerful people [TS]

00:01:48   in the marvel universe because he can [TS]

00:01:51   control water across a variety of [TS]

00:01:54   temperatures and in a variety of ways he [TS]

00:01:56   can make tiny clones of himself ice [TS]

00:02:00   clones and control those copies talk [TS]

00:02:02   through them so what he can do is [TS]

00:02:03   effectively create his own distributed [TS]

00:02:05   physical autonomous networked [TS]

00:02:07   intelligence that's a frightening and [TS]

00:02:08   formidable power to have he can also [TS]

00:02:10   manipulate water molecules and other [TS]

00:02:12   people down at extremely tiny or [TS]

00:02:14   incredible macro levels [TS]

00:02:16   given how pervasive water is in almost [TS]

00:02:19   any iteration of of the Marvel vs. the [TS]

00:02:22   fact that body is able to manipulate it [TS]

00:02:24   will to use it as a weapon against you [TS]

00:02:26   in dt is your own body as a weapon [TS]

00:02:27   against you to freeze where you are or [TS]

00:02:30   to freeze the air around you and [TS]

00:02:31   mobilizing you it makes me formidable [TS]

00:02:34   foe but he has to go up against anyone [TS]

00:02:36   and on the personal front [TS]

00:02:38   he's a hell of a nice guy alright Andy [TS]

00:02:40   Superman [TS]

00:02:41   well there are not many characters that [TS]

00:02:44   are at his level you could almost say [TS]

00:02:46   that there's only one Superman i'm [TS]

00:02:48   talking about a character this on the [TS]

00:02:50   level of Sherlock Holmes or Frankenstein [TS]

00:02:51   where the character is absolutely known [TS]

00:02:54   everywhere on our planet he's a [TS]

00:02:56   touchstone that every country every [TS]

00:02:58   culture every class can appreciate and [TS]

00:03:00   understand words from the Superman [TS]

00:03:03   mythos like kryptonite are now in the [TS]

00:03:04   concurrent the currency the popular [TS]

00:03:07   lexicon free and he's an archetype I [TS]

00:03:10   mean for decades you create a new [TS]

00:03:12   character by saying well what if we take [TS]

00:03:14   Superman but he's this and only he can [TS]

00:03:17   do this and that's led to dozens of [TS]

00:03:19   counters characters and ripoffs beyond [TS]

00:03:22   that he's just a phenomenally rich [TS]

00:03:24   character and he's an alien butt and his [TS]

00:03:27   powers that are totally divorced from [TS]

00:03:29   humanity but he was not raised to be [TS]

00:03:31   Superman he was raised to be Clark Kent [TS]

00:03:33   he is a good man at heart whose uneasy [TS]

00:03:37   with the godhood that people on earth [TS]

00:03:38   sometimes regard him with he's just want [TS]

00:03:41   to do what's right sometimes that's [TS]

00:03:43   misinterpreted as oh he's a goody [TS]

00:03:44   two-shoes but that's just the [TS]

00:03:46   frustration of someone who knows that [TS]

00:03:48   yeah he's doing what's right he's just [TS]

00:03:50   doing something that I'm not capable of [TS]

00:03:52   doing [TS]

00:03:52   he has a huge responsibility and he is [TS]

00:03:55   such a great role model for everybody in [TS]

00:03:57   the entire planet real and fictional [TS]

00:03:59   there is only one Superman and when you [TS]

00:04:01   have superman do you need anything else [TS]

00:04:05   right Steve what do you think mm-hmm [TS]

00:04:09   Superman omega-level overpowered hero [TS]

00:04:12   well it was determined that his [TS]

00:04:15   superpower isn't simply being really [TS]

00:04:17   really strong and be able to fly [TS]

00:04:19   it's that he is able to directly inside [TS]

00:04:22   ionically manipulate the weather feature [TS]

00:04:25   of the printer prion which means that [TS]

00:04:28   and i lost my interest in that halfway [TS]

00:04:30   through its you have took you that long [TS]

00:04:33   ah boy you know I've always found [TS]

00:04:36   Superman overpowered and therefore kind [TS]

00:04:38   of boring but on the other hand he's so [TS]

00:04:39   early that you can kind of forgive him [TS]

00:04:41   for that [TS]

00:04:42   on the other hand Iceman you know my [TS]

00:04:44   love for characters that can control [TS]

00:04:45   seventy percent of the earth's surface [TS]

00:04:47   this is and i also i love the way he [TS]

00:04:51   gets around he's a civic nuisance he [TS]

00:04:53   leaves behind these enormous icebergs [TS]

00:04:55   everywhere he goes which i bought this [TS]

00:04:56   fact kind of like how much ice cream [TS]

00:04:58   think it's their army service right now [TS]

00:05:02   what upp turns a bit moisture into ice [TS]

00:05:05   that's yeah it does [TS]

00:05:06   yeah sit down mr. wizard that's when I [TS]

00:05:09   mean it's freaking Superman so I gotta [TS]

00:05:13   go with Superman right Phil fish miser [TS]

00:05:15   and questions for you [TS]

00:05:17   I look forward to this time for fighting [TS]

00:05:20   did they sing a song about Bobby Bobby [TS]

00:05:22   Frost Bobby Frost is in a whiner up his [TS]

00:05:28   dog said yeah it was approaching say [TS]

00:05:30   don't touch on Bobby Frost key a pic i [TS]

00:05:34   think that we should actually that out [TS]

00:05:36   on the ground of it being the artist in [TS]

00:05:38   question also believe is Bobby 20 years [TS]

00:05:40   ring with you're wrong [TS]

00:05:42   yeah Bobby Frost is Robert Frost & [TS]

00:05:44   poetry boy [TS]

00:05:46   what if it was Robert Frost again [TS]

00:05:47   Superman tell me did did the so-called [TS]

00:05:51   Bobby Drake no insolence thinking on [TS]

00:05:54   uber mensch probably yeah why not [TS]

00:05:58   I check it by your silence their lives [TS]

00:06:01   really easily the question are you [TS]

00:06:03   talking about the ├╝bermensch science [TS]

00:06:05   fiction story are you talking about the [TS]

00:06:07   actual ideal as a spouse to me alive and [TS]

00:06:10   talking about both mish-mosh do not try [TS]

00:06:12   and plug the issue [TS]

00:06:13   Bobby process day must look at [TS]

00:06:16   everything which wanna get a very great [TS]

00:06:18   brother ground rules are all the [TS]

00:06:20   judgment is super super strong and [TS]

00:06:23   counting on my desk [TS]

00:06:25   welcome to fill up Michaels news solo [TS]

00:06:28   show one angry met did Clark Kent ever [TS]

00:06:31   pen such a glorious code as from birches [TS]

00:06:34   that's what I'd like to know [TS]

00:06:35   alright we're going to move on to [TS]

00:06:38   another round between Lisa and this time [TS]

00:06:40   Dan more'n that it is the Falcon number [TS]

00:06:44   9 seed I hope for mismanages sake this [TS]

00:06:46   is a better research argument and the [TS]

00:06:49   atom from lisa dan you're the underdog [TS]

00:06:52   with the Falcon it's a tight one [TS]

00:06:54   you may go first alright Sam Wilson [TS]

00:06:56   otherwise known as the falken he's he's [TS]

00:06:59   had a number of different careers for [TS]

00:07:01   one thing he go he was a criminal for a [TS]

00:07:04   little while but he turned around his [TS]

00:07:06   ways after being telepathic we merged [TS]

00:07:08   with an actual falken people I i forfeit [TS]

00:07:15   the match not found [TS]

00:07:17   and now you know as if that was not [TS]

00:07:20   enough you know a he partnered up with [TS]

00:07:22   Captain America he was one of the first [TS]

00:07:24   african-american superheroes like one [TS]

00:07:26   this is the mainstream african-american [TS]

00:07:28   superheroes and he has in recent years [TS]

00:07:30   taking up the mantle of Captain America [TS]

00:07:32   himself since Steve Rogers is like yeah [TS]

00:07:34   I'm gonna go retire and collect the IRA [TS]

00:07:37   that I've been saving for since I was [TS]

00:07:39   trapped in ice many many years ago so [TS]

00:07:41   the fact that he is it you know [TS]

00:07:44   considered cool enough to you know today [TS]

00:07:46   I would argue is cooler than Captain [TS]

00:07:48   America's he can fly too so you know I [TS]

00:07:51   mean it's like Captain America but [TS]

00:07:52   better [TS]

00:07:54   so now that's pretty much I think when [TS]

00:07:56   it comes down to [TS]

00:07:57   I'll telepathic link with Vulcan right [TS]

00:07:59   over [TS]

00:07:59   that Lisa the atom don't forget to [TS]

00:08:02   mention he's made of atoms that seems [TS]

00:08:04   important [TS]

00:08:07   Ray Palmer can get very very tiny he has [TS]

00:08:11   never emerged with a dolphin [TS]

00:08:13   although I bet you he could shrink and [TS]

00:08:16   get inside one maybe controls tidy p [TS]

00:08:18   braid by Perkins Mandel time Adams said [TS]

00:08:21   he wasn't so tiny maybe the file can be [TS]

00:08:23   more interested in what you can say [TS]

00:08:28   about Ray Palmer for good is that he's a [TS]

00:08:32   scientist he's devoted citizen he has [TS]

00:08:35   been a stalwart of Justice League for [TS]

00:08:36   freaking ever he has slightly less [TS]

00:08:39   ridiculous than a man and a 10 user yeah [TS]

00:08:45   they tend to use the shrinky thing when [TS]

00:08:47   it comes in handy i'm frank miller's use [TS]

00:08:49   was particularly gruesome and [TS]

00:08:51   interesting but what you basically have [TS]

00:08:54   is somebody who's very smart who [TS]

00:08:55   realizes that it's not the size of the [TS]

00:08:59   broad it's actually being able to deploy [TS]

00:09:01   the correct amount of force at the [TS]

00:09:03   correct point so it's it's a nice [TS]

00:09:05   balance between between brains tactics [TS]

00:09:08   and purpose [TS]

00:09:10   all right judges Phil please uh please [TS]

00:09:13   give us your room that was such a [TS]

00:09:15   passionate argument on behalf of Adam ok [TS]

00:09:19   at i can only say good luck in the next [TS]

00:09:23   round Falcon yeah but you version of [TS]

00:09:27   Falcon how's this supposed to compete [TS]

00:09:28   with her boy gets really tiny vs shares [TS]

00:09:37   thoughts with a bird [TS]

00:09:39   what to do what to do can Adam fly haha [TS]

00:09:44   well yes because everyone can fly [TS]

00:09:48   come on I mean I've doesn't have to be [TS]

00:09:49   picked up and thrown a strong reason [TS]

00:09:51   probably waffle weighs exactly see this [TS]

00:09:54   is think he's tiny so he can just who he [TS]

00:09:57   serve on the dorsal season that's it [TS]

00:09:59   that's a major point in his favor the [TS]

00:10:00   law stability factor now I like Falcon [TS]

00:10:04   yeah [TS]

00:10:05   as you should dr. moves along i like [TS]

00:10:07   talking to the circuit [TS]

00:10:08   yeah I was really [TS]

00:10:10   not kidding with islands around for [TS]

00:10:12   appeal immediately ya a billion that has [TS]

00:10:15   already been filed or I learned [TS]

00:10:18   something i didn't know him [TS]

00:10:20   yeah right next matchup Andy you're [TS]

00:10:23   going to advocate for 5c Doctor Strange [TS]

00:10:25   against Dan advocating another one of [TS]

00:10:28   his valiant heroes number 12 seed XO [TS]

00:10:31   Manowar dan you may go first [TS]

00:10:34   alright so you know take iron man you [TS]

00:10:36   think he's kind of lame though like [TS]

00:10:37   here's how you make iron man cooler [TS]

00:10:39   instead of being a like no snarky [TS]

00:10:42   playboy guy in a suit of armor instead [TS]

00:10:45   imagine that at some point a Visigoth is [TS]

00:10:48   basically abducted by aliens steals one [TS]

00:10:51   of their biggest super weapons which is [TS]

00:10:53   in fact a a sentient suit of armor and [TS]

00:10:57   then by the time he manages to escape [TS]

00:10:58   his alien captors killing them all in [TS]

00:11:01   the process ends up in the modern day [TS]

00:11:03   with a like super powered suit of armor [TS]

00:11:06   but he's still a barbarian [TS]

00:11:08   yep that's pretty much it and yet that's [TS]

00:11:13   that's what i got for XO Manowar right [TS]

00:11:15   inspiring that is true entry now that's [TS]

00:11:19   the cliffhanger there Dan so Andy Doctor [TS]

00:11:22   Strange tell us about him [TS]

00:11:23   ok let's start off with awesome mustache [TS]

00:11:26   one of the few peeps to peers who can [TS]

00:11:28   pull off that 1940s mustache off [TS]

00:11:30   secondly orange gloves with black spots [TS]

00:11:33   on them near the near the cuffs again [TS]

00:11:36   unprecedented but works completely well [TS]

00:11:38   he is an autumn so a bit fares his skin [TS]

00:11:41   very very nicely now to know what if we [TS]

00:11:43   have time left over to talk about his [TS]

00:11:45   actual powers the fact that he is [TS]

00:11:46   sorcerer supreme that is a title you [TS]

00:11:49   want to get if you can put your own [TS]

00:11:50   title on a business card no matter what [TS]

00:11:52   it is you're going to go for source [TS]

00:11:53   resistance Supreme if they're more than [TS]

00:11:55   12 smart people in your company however [TS]

00:11:56   someone has already taken it because it [TS]

00:11:58   is the best title you can possibly have [TS]

00:12:00   as the master manipulator of magic in [TS]

00:12:04   the Marvel Universe thank you for for [TS]

00:12:05   uses the word of the level m words in [TS]

00:12:07   the in one sentence [TS]

00:12:09   he's great because nobody understands [TS]

00:12:11   how magic works you can have the [TS]

00:12:13   greatest scientists in the world he's [TS]

00:12:15   baffled by magic he can get the biggest [TS]

00:12:17   punch in the world you can't punch magic [TS]

00:12:20   when dr. strange levitates with his [TS]

00:12:22   magical red [TS]

00:12:23   cloak another point in favor and he [TS]

00:12:26   simply dropped out and say yeah let me [TS]

00:12:28   drop some magic on you [TS]

00:12:30   this is where the argument ends I have a [TS]

00:12:33   few clarifying questions all right mr. [TS]

00:12:36   Socko how would you rank dr. Strange's [TS]

00:12:40   mustache versus the dad in the [TS]

00:12:42   Invincibles I think you'll find he also [TS]

00:12:45   has an impressive Mustang you mean doing [TS]

00:12:48   the invincible [TS]

00:12:49   yeah that is a bed is a powerful [TS]

00:12:51   monsters that's how I was able to tell [TS]

00:12:52   what you meant because he did Nolan [TS]

00:12:54   invincible has a strong mustache [TS]

00:12:56   it's like a magnet bi-level must and is [TS]

00:12:58   it is magnum level is a he easy magnum [TS]

00:13:00   level mustache [TS]

00:13:01   it is a strong mustache dr. Strange's [TS]

00:13:04   requires more grooming and effort so [TS]

00:13:06   requires a lot more thought into more of [TS]

00:13:08   a deliberate mustaches opposed to [TS]

00:13:10   something that he simply trusted to [TS]

00:13:12   genetics in the passage of time so i [TS]

00:13:13   believe that if weather whether or not [TS]

00:13:15   the mustaches better the man behind the [TS]

00:13:17   mustache is a lot more ennobled by it [TS]

00:13:19   Thank You mr. Morin yes does the XO and [TS]

00:13:23   XO Manowar staying for hugs and kisses [TS]

00:13:25   of course thank you [TS]

00:13:30   crushing hugs and kisses I'm ready to [TS]

00:13:34   issue my ruling [TS]

00:13:35   yes I rule for Doctor Strange ok Steve [TS]

00:13:39   what it sounds your dad about that you [TS]

00:13:42   know i know dr. strange i love Doctor [TS]

00:13:45   Strange it's such a goofy character and [TS]

00:13:48   I really enjoy him although the fact [TS]

00:13:50   that he shares ahead with Jay jonah [TS]

00:13:53   Jameson has always someone bothered me a [TS]

00:13:56   Hitler mustache versus Charles Durning [TS]

00:13:58   mustache that said Visigoths steals an [TS]

00:14:01   alien suit of armor and returns to the [TS]

00:14:03   modern-day that is one badass backstory [TS]

00:14:06   man although I feel like it would almost [TS]

00:14:08   be better if he had returned to his his [TS]

00:14:10   own time and just you know laid waste to [TS]

00:14:13   the the other foreign armies is that [TS]

00:14:15   that i think would have more amusing [TS]

00:14:17   story line but i like it so this is a [TS]

00:14:21   tough one but I'm gonna go with the [TS]

00:14:24   underdog here Manowar alright well that [TS]

00:14:27   leaves that leaves us with a tire first [TS]

00:14:28   time in awhile means I get to break it [TS]

00:14:30   and I I to find XO Manowar story quite [TS]

00:14:33   compelling but i must say i have to [TS]

00:14:36   with the sorcerer supreme soon-to-be [TS]

00:14:38   played by the inimitable Benedict [TS]

00:14:40   Cumberbatch on the big screen [TS]

00:14:42   no I heard a ryan reynolds was gonna [TS]

00:14:43   fill out for unfortunately not [TS]

00:14:45   dr. strange doctor strange moves on to [TS]

00:14:48   role played by Benedict Cumberbatch [TS]

00:14:50   that'll make a nice change [TS]

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00:16:10   number four seed is the tick who will be [TS]

00:16:13   argued by Tony against the number 13 [TS]

00:16:16   seed Catwoman that's Selena Kyle argued [TS]

00:16:20   by Andy Andy you may go first [TS]

00:16:22   selina kyle is like the Superman of her [TS]

00:16:26   neighborhood in Gotham she will not try [TS]

00:16:28   to save the world because she can't do [TS]

00:16:30   that but she will try to save her [TS]

00:16:32   neighbors and her family and her friends [TS]

00:16:35   and people that she loves and then she's [TS]

00:16:37   a character also that sort of transcends [TS]

00:16:39   the concept of good or bad which is a [TS]

00:16:42   lot more interesting for storytelling [TS]

00:16:44   let's say that aliens have invaded and [TS]

00:16:46   Gotham has been plunged into darkness [TS]

00:16:48   and the planet is in jeopardy and [TS]

00:16:49   Catwoman put on her boots and puts [TS]

00:16:51   honors thing and bleeps an action but [TS]

00:16:53   not to save the city because that's not [TS]

00:16:55   really her role she will either a rush [TS]

00:16:58   out to save her friend's mom who is in a [TS]

00:16:59   subway car when city lost power is now [TS]

00:17:01   trying to walk to freedom even though [TS]

00:17:03   there are gangs are probably the subway [TS]

00:17:05   tunnels everywhere or if failing that [TS]

00:17:08   she will rush out to a museum to steal [TS]

00:17:10   stuff because the power is out and [TS]

00:17:12   that's our one opportunity to get that [TS]

00:17:14   bracelet that's 3,000 years old amount [TS]

00:17:16   of gold that she's had an eye on she has [TS]

00:17:18   the respect of Batman without having [TS]

00:17:20   fallen under the spell of Batman and [TS]

00:17:22   become part of the quote Batman family [TS]

00:17:24   and she's she's satisfied being Catwoman [TS]

00:17:28   when you're Catwoman that's all you need [TS]

00:17:29   to be alright thank you Tony [TS]

00:17:31   ok so then Edmonds the tick is basically [TS]

00:17:35   a parody of superheroes he's this [TS]

00:17:38   hulking gentleman in blue spandex who [TS]

00:17:41   lives in the city he is something is [TS]

00:17:46   wrong with him he spent considerable [TS]

00:17:47   time in an institution which I believe [TS]

00:17:49   he's recently got out of before coming [TS]

00:17:51   to the city and he hangs out with a [TS]

00:17:53   bunch of characters who are kind of [TS]

00:17:55   parodies of other superheroes like [TS]

00:17:57   american-made and he has a sidekick who [TS]

00:18:02   is a mosque but tends to his wings [TS]

00:18:05   pulled into a little backpack and so he [TS]

00:18:07   is frequently mistaken for a rabbit and [TS]

00:18:11   he fights are some of the most [TS]

00:18:13   ridiculous villains out there such as a [TS]

00:18:15   guy who just has a chair for face and I [TS]

00:18:18   a man eating cow in conclusion Spill [TS]

00:18:21   also he's not invulnerable yes 99 Dalton [TS]

00:18:25   is very important to know that it's not [TS]

00:18:27   full invulnerability he's not [TS]

00:18:28   invulnerable [TS]

00:18:29   all right judges Steve what are your [TS]

00:18:32   thoughts a parody of superheroes a [TS]

00:18:35   parody character how did a parody [TS]

00:18:37   character get in here are you trying to [TS]

00:18:39   make a mockery of the house in another [TS]

00:18:41   building getting her that's gonna that's [TS]

00:18:42   parody character vs villains we make a [TS]

00:18:46   mockery of some mrs. this trial is a [TS]

00:18:48   travesty of new Jam's of a mockery [TS]

00:18:51   mmhmm yeah but that suit man that [TS]

00:18:55   catwoman suit [TS]

00:18:56   hmm not a costume dress stuff like very [TS]

00:19:01   movie motorcycle boots label you have to [TS]

00:19:04   you have to weigh the costume as a whole [TS]

00:19:06   when you're it doesn't weigh very much [TS]

00:19:08   that's a whole costume that's how are [TS]

00:19:10   you complaining about linux costume now [TS]

00:19:12   another thing leaves nothing to the [TS]

00:19:15   imagination [TS]

00:19:16   ah yeah i don't know i think tickets [TS]

00:19:21   probably closer to hero then Catwoman so [TS]

00:19:23   to be consistent i guess i've got to go [TS]

00:19:25   with the tick Phil mr. similar that's [TS]

00:19:31   almost my name is either one can answer [TS]

00:19:35   that to flatter mouse your Batman well I [TS]

00:19:41   i prefer the the comic version to the [TS]

00:19:44   the TV show version i simply deploy your [TS]

00:19:49   mouth [TS]

00:19:50   I rule in favor of mr. sindo I'll take [TS]

00:19:57   it [TS]

00:19:57   the tick moves on it by the skin of his [TS]

00:20:01   teeth spoon add another be a quiz [TS]

00:20:04   portion we thinks we move oral arguments [TS]

00:20:07   sure i didn't realize i had to defend [TS]

00:20:09   against like the Halle Berry movie The [TS]

00:20:11   the joel schumacher movie on it [TS]

00:20:13   anything could happen person said that [TS]

00:20:15   and you're not American you won't know [TS]

00:20:17   if tim burton directed the version of [TS]

00:20:21   Batman featuring Catwoman Selina Kyle [TS]

00:20:24   michelle pfeiffer what about one of our [TS]

00:20:27   one of our better catwomen one of our [TS]

00:20:29   cow about what a revelation a great cat [TS]

00:20:31   with the nation's finest Catwoman also i [TS]

00:20:34   should say [TS]

00:20:35   it's difficult to find for Catwoman when [TS]

00:20:37   you are sitting in a cloud of cat stink [TS]

00:20:39   my butt on your midst instrument it's [TS]

00:20:42   you don't have no idea how strong do you [TS]

00:20:44   might want to consider that she'll send [TS]

00:20:45   her minions against you have seen her [TS]

00:20:47   millions I'm all for that [TS]

00:20:48   moving on to number six are number six a [TS]

00:20:52   participant is hell boy who will be [TS]

00:20:55   argued by Tony versus the number 11 [TS]

00:20:57   invisible woman who will be argued by [TS]

00:21:00   Lisa Lisa you're the underdog here you [TS]

00:21:01   may go first [TS]

00:21:03   Susan storm is perhaps the most [TS]

00:21:04   underrated number of the Fantastic Four [TS]

00:21:06   largely because she has what's called [TS]

00:21:08   soft power IE the power behind the [TS]

00:21:10   scenes it's her job to make sure that [TS]

00:21:13   people don't quit and a half after Reed [TS]

00:21:15   Richards has been absent mindedly jerk [TS]

00:21:18   genius thing at them for a while she's [TS]

00:21:20   got to keep her pure heart head brother [TS]

00:21:22   in line and she's got to keep Ben Grimm [TS]

00:21:24   from feeling sorry for himself because [TS]

00:21:25   he's essentially on now pile essential [TS]

00:21:27   rocks as if that weren't enough of a [TS]

00:21:29   formidable task but she manages a lot of [TS]

00:21:31   grace she also happens to be a super [TS]

00:21:33   genius and her to powers which are [TS]

00:21:35   visibility in a force field are attacked [TS]

00:21:38   our our tactical and she deploys them in [TS]

00:21:40   a wide variety of clever ways not only [TS]

00:21:42   for protective maneuvers and mechanisms [TS]

00:21:45   but she's also use them to great effect [TS]

00:21:47   for offensive maneuvers as well so you [TS]

00:21:51   have somebody who is a diplomat of the [TS]

00:21:53   highest order [TS]

00:21:54   she's a tactician she's smart and she's [TS]

00:21:56   focused on supporting her family group [TS]

00:21:58   she really is one of the more underrated [TS]

00:22:01   female characters who gets things done [TS]

00:22:03   in the marble verse alright Tony cowboy [TS]

00:22:07   tell us our hellboy is probably my [TS]

00:22:09   second favorite comic book character of [TS]

00:22:11   all time after Batman he's a lovable [TS]

00:22:13   demon and also supernatural / paranormal [TS]

00:22:16   detective and he wanders around the [TS]

00:22:18   world basically dealing with mysteries [TS]

00:22:21   of the supernatural I you know which [TS]

00:22:23   might be some kind of folklore monster [TS]

00:22:25   or it might be Lizardman or frogmen it [TS]

00:22:28   might be Nazis that seemed to hang [TS]

00:22:29   around for a very very long time [TS]

00:22:31   post-world war two he usually sometimes [TS]

00:22:34   he has to use his kind of satchel of [TS]

00:22:36   magic stuff to help with that sometimes [TS]

00:22:38   he has a gun and sometimes he just [TS]

00:22:40   punches them he has this foreboding [TS]

00:22:42   prophecy where he has his right hand is [TS]

00:22:45   this big stone hand while the rest of [TS]

00:22:46   him is just a demon [TS]

00:22:48   and his right-hand theoretically will be [TS]

00:22:50   used to bring about the apocalypse if it [TS]

00:22:53   falls into the wrong clutches [TS]

00:22:55   so that's kind of scary there is kind of [TS]

00:22:57   a difference between the movie in the [TS]

00:22:58   comic version of the movie he's like [TS]

00:23:00   this urban legend in the comics like [TS]

00:23:02   everybody knows hellboy so hell Boyle to [TS]

00:23:04   show up places and he'll be like on you [TS]

00:23:06   know some farm in Ireland like the guy [TS]

00:23:07   herd the sheep will be like Al boy will [TS]

00:23:09   be like hey I'm here to here to fight [TS]

00:23:11   that monster which way is it mom [TS]

00:23:13   yeah all right hellboy Invisible Woman [TS]

00:23:16   Phil what are your thoughts [TS]

00:23:19   Mitch miser in 2005 you suggest that we [TS]

00:23:23   go see fantastic for empathy i like to [TS]

00:23:27   note that question be thrown out because [TS]

00:23:29   it's just the question their 2005 [TS]

00:23:35   suggest we pay american dollars to see [TS]

00:23:40   fantastic four in the theater I did you [TS]

00:23:46   I rule in favor of mr. sin dolor my [TS]

00:23:52   favorite Star Trek yes alright uh leave [TS]

00:23:56   what are your thoughts about Lisa vs mr. [TS]

00:23:58   Sandler we may be serious for a moment [TS]

00:24:01   course and I by remember reading a [TS]

00:24:06   fantastic four way back when she was [TS]

00:24:09   still invisible girl and I always found [TS]

00:24:12   her her story lines very compelling for [TS]

00:24:16   the timeframe [TS]

00:24:17   I think she's an early instance of a [TS]

00:24:21   kind of what came later in the Buffy's [TS]

00:24:23   of the world where I you know she was [TS]

00:24:26   expected to sort of handle household [TS]

00:24:29   side of things and later they're they're [TS]

00:24:31   dumb baby the pickup only have to dumb [TS]

00:24:33   babies i didn't even get on babies [TS]

00:24:35   yeah and I always found that a little [TS]

00:24:38   more intriguing than the standard man [TS]

00:24:41   punches other man story lines of the of [TS]

00:24:44   the time so I given that i must find for [TS]

00:24:48   the Invisible Woman well that brings us [TS]

00:24:51   to another tie which I have to break and [TS]

00:24:54   I really think that Tony did a good job [TS]

00:24:56   of describing the the strength of [TS]

00:24:58   Hellboy however i am going to go with [TS]

00:25:00   the invisible woman because I [TS]

00:25:01   think that Sue Storm superstorm Richards [TS]

00:25:05   is the by far the best character in the [TS]

00:25:07   Fantastic Four and and really holds that [TS]

00:25:10   holds it together and has the integrity [TS]

00:25:12   and intelligence and is she's underrated [TS]

00:25:14   and has lots of a kind of impressive [TS]

00:25:17   powers on top of it so I think she's [TS]

00:25:19   great she is questionable taste in [TS]

00:25:21   spouses let's move on [TS]

00:25:24   look so it's just read the building that [TS]

00:25:26   was just fantastic [TS]

00:25:28   that was just to dig it Andy because i [TS]

00:25:30   really like the original iight that's [TS]

00:25:31   how I interpreted don't worry yep the [TS]

00:25:34   least let's move on number three in this [TS]

00:25:37   region is the flash as personified by [TS]

00:25:39   Barry Allen versus the question the [TS]

00:25:43   flash will be advocated by Lisa the [TS]

00:25:45   question advocated by Tony unless junior [TS]

00:25:48   say the question and Tony here with the [TS]

00:25:50   answer [TS]

00:25:50   Tony sindelar question I ok the question [TS]

00:25:54   is the question the question is a [TS]

00:25:56   conspiracy theorist to end all [TS]

00:25:58   conspiracy theorists you may not be [TS]

00:26:01   familiar with the question but perhaps [TS]

00:26:02   you're familiar with shock from watchman [TS]

00:26:04   who is basically cribbed from the [TS]

00:26:06   question and you know he basically he [TS]

00:26:09   has a file on everybody he's figuring [TS]

00:26:11   out all of the the machinations that are [TS]

00:26:13   happening behind all the things that the [TS]

00:26:16   bad things in the world he knows what [TS]

00:26:18   the girl scouts are up to money will [TS]

00:26:20   tell you that he knows that the things [TS]

00:26:21   at the end of shoelaces are called [TS]

00:26:22   aglets and that their true purpose is [TS]

00:26:24   sinister that's the question [TS]

00:26:27   alright very interesting and Lisa please [TS]

00:26:31   tell us about Barry Allen the flash he [TS]

00:26:33   has no needs of shoelaces or advocates [TS]

00:26:35   and he's exactly not sinister Barry [TS]

00:26:37   Allen was correctly described as a saint [TS]

00:26:40   in the DC Universe this is not at all [TS]

00:26:42   far off the mark [TS]

00:26:44   he's possessed a super speed and can [TS]

00:26:46   effectively manipulate time to go along [TS]

00:26:49   with that [TS]

00:26:50   however Barry has never used this power [TS]

00:26:52   for anything other than trying to make [TS]

00:26:54   the world a better place first he wanted [TS]

00:26:56   to right wrongs since he grew up as a [TS]

00:26:58   child scarred by injustice he grew up [TS]

00:27:00   wanting to make the world a better place [TS]

00:27:02   and to correct injustice brothers and [TS]

00:27:04   then once you've got superpowers he used [TS]

00:27:06   he used them to keep people out of [TS]

00:27:08   danger and he's used them to alter [TS]

00:27:10   timelines on occasion most often when he [TS]

00:27:12   has to alter timelines it's at a great [TS]

00:27:14   personal loss to him [TS]

00:27:15   yourself but for a greater gained [TS]

00:27:17   worldwide Barry exemplifies sacrifice he [TS]

00:27:21   actually makes the idea of running seems [TS]

00:27:23   super cool and he's one of the more [TS]

00:27:25   chill personalities in the Marvel it [TS]

00:27:27   excuse me in the DC Universe despite [TS]

00:27:29   having a tremendous amount of temporal a [TS]

00:27:32   and social responsibility on his whip it [TS]

00:27:35   like shoulders the question also has a [TS]

00:27:38   blue trenchcoat intended to the balance [TS]

00:27:42   and Tony using the balance of his time [TS]

00:27:43   at the air just put that in Steve what [TS]

00:27:47   are your thoughts [TS]

00:27:48   Tony the question these conspiracies [TS]

00:27:51   that he knows about our duties in the [TS]

00:27:52   context of the book do they actually pan [TS]

00:27:55   out or is he just a nut but I Girl [TS]

00:27:59   Scouts really up to something I i'm not [TS]

00:28:02   super well read on the question i think [TS]

00:28:04   it is usually sighs when one of his [TS]

00:28:06   conspiracies ends up being legit I think [TS]

00:28:08   real barbecue BBQ additional rhubarb but [TS]

00:28:11   I i think it is usually a surprise for [TS]

00:28:14   the viewer reader when he's on the right [TS]

00:28:16   track [TS]

00:28:17   interesting well I have a surprise for [TS]

00:28:18   you oh you know look I I know which way [TS]

00:28:22   that flask is great somebody to start a [TS]

00:28:24   podcast about and let you know what it [TS]

00:28:26   is but you know a life free of Aglets [TS]

00:28:28   that's that's like a dream come true you [TS]

00:28:31   know i was i was thinking of leaning [TS]

00:28:33   towards the question because nobody [TS]

00:28:34   likes this ain't come on [TS]

00:28:36   but since you clearly have not [TS]

00:28:38   researched this character in any great [TS]

00:28:40   detail I must do that [TS]

00:28:42   no with the far better research and [TS]

00:28:44   advocated for Barry Allen's flash out [TS]

00:28:48   all right fill your thoughts we have a2 [TS]

00:28:51   derivative characters really we has a [TS]

00:28:53   question who is the poor man's work [TS]

00:28:57   shack quite quickly we have about Jason [TS]

00:29:00   Jason Jason pursuit of our jacket over [TS]

00:29:03   her shackles pretty much the rich man's [TS]

00:29:05   question I i sent my assessment [TS]

00:29:09   alright question we have a Barry Allen [TS]

00:29:12   who is the poor man's jay garrick oh oh [TS]

00:29:16   I what is going on in the end I must [TS]

00:29:24   rule in favor of G Garrick [TS]

00:29:27   ye Barry Allen the flash flash and [TS]

00:29:31   visualize zips in to the next round we [TS]

00:29:35   have two left in this region number [TS]

00:29:39   seven seed ghostrider Johnny Blaze will [TS]

00:29:43   be argued by Chip and oh hi hi hi chip [TS]

00:29:47   and number 10 seed the Blue Beetle [TS]

00:29:49   behind a race version will be argued by [TS]

00:29:51   Tony sindelar Tony got it still make you [TS]

00:29:54   make oh that's nice and all Tony it's [TS]

00:29:57   tony all the way down leave her to stop [TS]

00:29:59   only one and the one after that too [TS]

00:30:01   yeah uh-huh i call for baby I'm ready [TS]

00:30:06   alright Tony go for it so i have i'm [TS]

00:30:09   arguing for the third Blue Beetle which [TS]

00:30:11   is hi mere hisse on whereas earlier blue [TS]

00:30:15   beetles are basically just Batman [TS]

00:30:16   ripoffs Jaime Reyes is a he basically is [TS]

00:30:20   merged with a scarab which turns out to [TS]

00:30:23   be an alien artifact that gives them the [TS]

00:30:24   ability to basically summon an alien [TS]

00:30:27   power exoskeleton that also talks to him [TS]

00:30:30   and he is basically a teenager growing [TS]

00:30:33   up in Texas who now has to deal with [TS]

00:30:36   having a scarab attached to him and [TS]

00:30:38   being compelled to go out and use that [TS]

00:30:40   to do good things and become a hero and [TS]

00:30:44   it's got a lot of spider-man qualities [TS]

00:30:46   to what I like in terms of a teenager [TS]

00:30:47   dealing with his newfound power but with [TS]

00:30:49   a kind of a neat twist in terms of not [TS]

00:30:51   being set in New York and I'm being a [TS]

00:30:53   character of color so all right lube [TS]

00:30:56   legal [TS]

00:30:56   yep chip ghostwriter well first of all [TS]

00:31:00   for this character to still be around [TS]

00:31:02   after the Nicolas Cage movies is nothing [TS]

00:31:04   short of astounding that said take your [TS]

00:31:08   mind back to the seventies the [TS]

00:31:10   rebellious of motors the rebellious miss [TS]

00:31:13   of motorcycle culture that was a thing [TS]

00:31:14   and it was also more interest in [TS]

00:31:16   anti-heroes ghost writer is something [TS]

00:31:20   more way beyond the whole who's just a [TS]

00:31:23   jekyll-and-hyde or wolfman kinda think [TS]

00:31:25   Johnny Blaze great name Johnny Blaze [TS]

00:31:28   sells his soul to the devil in order to [TS]

00:31:30   save his dad and he's forced to torment [TS]

00:31:33   evildoers and send them to hell his body [TS]

00:31:36   transformed into a burning skeleton his [TS]

00:31:39   motorcycle [TS]

00:31:40   and hell fire and he's always at war [TS]

00:31:43   with the demon who shares his body [TS]

00:31:45   there's drama there's angst there's ja [TS]

00:31:49   swing before joss whedon was joss whedon [TS]

00:31:51   and there's a character who really [TS]

00:31:53   deserves a movie that doesn't suck [TS]

00:31:57   strong words Steve what are your [TS]

00:31:59   thoughts about that movie sucks so bad [TS]

00:32:01   to which one they were too well whatever [TS]

00:32:06   remembers the second two guys to direct [TS]

00:32:08   that Phil there was there was also like [TS]

00:32:10   a black-and-white educational film [TS]

00:32:12   called ghost writer about a girl who [TS]

00:32:13   died on a school bus because she didn't [TS]

00:32:15   pay attention to what the bus driver [TS]

00:32:17   told her and she haunts other children [TS]

00:32:20   who might mock the rules of the bus [TS]

00:32:22   driver but i'm pretty sure that wasn't [TS]

00:32:24   that wasn't bad enough with this [TS]

00:32:27   oh boy i love the backstory of ghost [TS]

00:32:30   rider his story has moved me I to and [TS]

00:32:32   breathed in Hellfire so I didn't you [TS]

00:32:35   know I can really understand what he's [TS]

00:32:37   going through so i'm going to go with [TS]

00:32:40   those right all right Phil what are your [TS]

00:32:42   thoughts [TS]

00:32:43   Tony raises some interesting points [TS]

00:32:45   about Blue Beetle and his backstory not [TS]

00:32:49   Tony reveals some interesting points [TS]

00:32:53   about ghost rider chip seems like such a [TS]

00:33:02   nice guy i don't why must stop these [TS]

00:33:05   know Tony I must side with not Tony here [TS]

00:33:07   is this is a new attempt to avoid saying [TS]

00:33:12   my last name this and go closer writer [TS]

00:33:15   okay so that's two that's to do nothing [TS]

00:33:17   for ghost writer than okay [TS]

00:33:18   yeah all right that's correct i'm [TS]

00:33:21   feeling simultaneously affirmed and not [TS]

00:33:24   Tony need your whether or not you know [TS]

00:33:26   Tony but you want that one ship to you [TS]

00:33:28   wouldn't know prize not Tony mm that's [TS]

00:33:30   all you have to be is sometimes that's [TS]

00:33:34   what I screw up everyday lol Tony you [TS]

00:33:35   can take a break no you can't because [TS]

00:33:37   you have to argue our next question [TS]

00:33:39   great structuring last item in this [TS]

00:33:42   region number two seed the Hulk will be [TS]

00:33:45   all argued by Monty actually number he's [TS]

00:33:47   going up against number 15 seed Booster [TS]

00:33:50   Gold argued by Tony Tony tell us about [TS]

00:33:53   Booster Gold [TS]

00:33:54   Booster Gold may not be the greatest [TS]

00:33:57   superhero of our time because he's not [TS]

00:33:59   from our time he is from the future and [TS]

00:34:03   he has come up from the future to our [TS]

00:34:05   modern-day to be a superhero are using [TS]

00:34:08   his various technologies that he brings [TS]

00:34:11   from the future to use them in this [TS]

00:34:12   modern-day and yes he does come here for [TS]

00:34:15   kind of self-serving reasons because [TS]

00:34:16   being a superhero and being rich and [TS]

00:34:19   famous seems really great but he has to [TS]

00:34:21   kind of overcome that and learn humility [TS]

00:34:23   and do turns out when you show up for [TS]

00:34:26   the Justice League and you're like the [TS]

00:34:27   57th guy to show up for the Justice [TS]

00:34:29   League they're not going to give you the [TS]

00:34:30   nice assignments and you actually have [TS]

00:34:32   to learn humility and and work your way [TS]

00:34:34   up and you know he over time he he [TS]

00:34:36   overcomes all of those and becomes more [TS]

00:34:38   than just a narcissistic time-traveling [TS]

00:34:40   con man all right Monty before begin may [TS]

00:34:43   I ask the judges a question yes no [TS]

00:34:46   judges possibly is there any chance i [TS]

00:34:49   replicate you to focus solely on the [TS]

00:34:51   comic book and not bring mark ruffalo or [TS]

00:34:53   lou ferrigno into the argument [TS]

00:34:55   not a chance on a chance now araucana [TS]

00:34:58   can we talk about angry [TS]

00:35:00   there's only one Hawking his name is [TS]

00:35:02   Bill Bixby my friend the fact that [TS]

00:35:04   you're even trying to to eliminate lou [TS]

00:35:06   ferrigno from the equation is not a [TS]

00:35:08   point in your favor i should point right [TS]

00:35:10   then here is my argument [TS]

00:35:12   o / thank you for your time [TS]

00:35:18   well well argued sir money's words are [TS]

00:35:21   as moving today as they were in his time [TS]

00:35:24   however i would like to point out that i [TS]

00:35:28   have a spec script for Booster Gold did [TS]

00:35:31   I would like to introduce thing I will [TS]

00:35:36   really profits from it so despite Tony [TS]

00:35:40   saying that booster gold's not the [TS]

00:35:42   greatest superhero our time when that is [TS]

00:35:45   quite clearly not the case I was into my [TS]

00:35:48   sentence I rule in favor of booster cold [TS]

00:35:51   who is awesome and deserves his own [TS]

00:35:54   movie that i will sell for a reasonable [TS]

00:35:57   risk the ethical ryan reynolds a huge [TS]

00:36:00   boost movement I know he'd love to see [TS]

00:36:02   that script you can even say he's a [TS]

00:36:04   booster booster thinking Jon Hamm [TS]

00:36:06   and if his check clears I would love for [TS]

00:36:09   him see Steve what are your thoughts [TS]

00:36:11   well I gotta say Booster Gold was [TS]

00:36:14   probably my favorite all-time Burt [TS]

00:36:16   Reynolds role I got a moustache man [TS]

00:36:20   oh but that said if if we send the Hulk [TS]

00:36:25   packing i'm gonna have to hear that damn [TS]

00:36:27   sad as he walks away and think through [TS]

00:36:29   and I just I don't think I could take [TS]

00:36:31   that right now so good to go for the [TS]

00:36:33   bulk and that leaves it to me to make [TS]

00:36:36   the deciding factor of whether we hear [TS]

00:36:38   the sad music is that as Bruce Banner [TS]

00:36:40   walks away sadly or whether we have to [TS]

00:36:42   deal with booster gold for another round [TS]

00:36:44   and sorry officer Phil I'm going with [TS]

00:36:48   the home [TS]

00:36:49   oh that would have been amazing [TS]

00:36:53   it was so so close that ends the [TS]

00:36:56   metropolis region [TS]

00:36:57   tune in next time as we move on to the [TS]

00:37:00   Latveria region until then I have been [TS]

00:37:04   your host Jason Snell goodbye [TS]