00:00:00 ◼ ► from relay this is connected episode 568 today's show is brought to you by squarespace and
00:00:14 ◼ ► turbulence forecast i am your ricky benchman fedorico with each unit it's my pleasure to be
00:00:18 ◼ ► joined for this big episode today by steven hello steven you're going down buddy i don't know
00:00:26 ◼ ► hey who was that oh we haven't introduced anybody else it was the band the connected band band uh i
00:00:36 ◼ ► would like a welcome to the program mr mike hurley oh it's so good to be here i'm ready i'm bringing
00:00:41 ◼ ► it today i'm like i've decided i'm bringing it today so you're all gonna have to watch out for
00:00:45 ◼ ► that it's a new day we're recording on thursdays yeah it is yeah yeah yeah which i don't know about
00:00:52 ◼ ► y'all totally broke my internal clock i don't know where i am yeah no big time no i had quite a day
00:00:59 ◼ ► plus we're doing connection on thursday i feel like i have no idea where i am yeah um you know
00:01:04 ◼ ► interesting feeling uh we have some follow-up mike you want to take this one because i think you're
00:01:09 ◼ ► so happy well i was initially uh instagram have launched an ipad app but they decided to do it
00:01:15 ◼ ► in the worst way like i don't understand why they even bothered like they've just they've they've made
00:01:20 ◼ ► everyone's so happy that it existed and then they're like yeah how about it just doesn't work
00:01:24 ◼ ► like instagram so the main thing here is they've got an instagram app it's on ipad you can make it lots
00:01:31 ◼ ► of different sizes it's a full app right it's got everything um you know this is it's pretty similar
00:01:37 ◼ ► to the web site and which i expect there's some shared some shared uh links there between the two
00:01:44 ◼ ► things but the the home tab of the instagram for ipad app it has your stories across the top
00:01:54 ◼ ► and it's the reels tab it's not your pictures anymore and this is reels like the algorithm reels
00:02:04 ◼ ► it's not just reels from accounts that you follow if you want to see the posts from people you've chosen
00:02:09 ◼ ► to follow then you go to the like friends or following tab and you can see all those posts in
00:02:17 ◼ ► either algorithmic or chronological view but you don't get stories there they've split stories
00:02:23 ◼ ► to be with the reels and then everything else in the friends tab or whatever it's i hate it this is
00:02:30 ◼ ► terrible uh i don't know why they've done this and i well i do know why they've done this i wish they
00:02:37 ◼ ► wouldn't have done this and i am concerned that this is actually a harbinger for the future of
00:02:42 ◼ ► instagram oh yeah and if this is where instagram is going like i could see my personal usage declining
00:02:50 ◼ ► i have no interest in reels and tiktok personally it's just not what i want and if they're gonna add
00:02:57 ◼ ► this friction into using the app with friction for me i could imagine that i would naturally
00:03:04 ◼ ► want to use it less and less like at this point like for me the iphone version of instagram was
00:03:11 ◼ ► better on my ipad than the current version the ipad version of instagram because with ios 26
00:03:17 ◼ ► the iphone apps work great right like they just work great uh i'm pretty sad about this this is this
00:03:25 ◼ ► is a this is a real bummer like i don't i don't understand why this is the right again i keep saying
00:03:31 ◼ ► that i do know why they're doing it i just wish they wouldn't do it you know what yeah so they want
00:03:36 ◼ ► so they want to do tiktok and they figured hey we're launching the app on a new platform let's use it as
00:03:41 ◼ ► a test bed for you know seeing how it actually goes if we get rid of the home page and we just
00:03:47 ◼ ► default to reels not even from people you follow but algorithmic reels and we don't let you see the
00:03:52 ◼ ► stories in the friends view that's that's great like i wouldn't mind if i could see my stories in the
00:03:58 ◼ ► friends view right like i would just open the app tap what i need to tap and just carry on with that
00:04:02 ◼ ► you know what i mean like i just open the app and press the button and i would get used to that over
00:04:05 ◼ ► time and it wouldn't bother me but it's like the fact that they've separated the two things that i want
00:04:15 ◼ ► just algorithmic nonsense like stuff that it's just like for me again because i don't use these
00:04:22 ◼ ► services it's not good for me right it's like it doesn't give me uh like it's showing me things that
00:04:30 ◼ ► it thinks i might care about right but like it's actually stuff that i wouldn't if that makes sense
00:04:36 ◼ ► like so you're familiar with fan cams that's the thing you guys know what these are i think
00:04:42 ◼ ► they're called fan cams they're like these edits that of someone that you like and they're like edited
00:04:46 ◼ ► in this very specific way like oh yeah yeah so i keep getting those for formula one and i but i
00:04:54 ◼ ► wouldn't watch those you know what so like if i was using reels they would see that i would go past
00:04:59 ◼ ► those quickly man people use social media way too much that's my takeaway and just in a way that is
00:05:05 ◼ ► totally different to oh my god yeah okay so i don't know but i'm pretty bummed about it um
00:05:13 ◼ ► i hope this isn't what they do to the iphone app and i figure i'm just not going to use
00:05:18 ◼ ► the instagram for ipad really i don't think we'll see do you know increasingly as more time passes i
00:05:25 ◼ ► remain convinced that the best social network there is is actually reddit at least you know
00:05:30 ◼ ► it wears its nastiness on its sleeve you know okay you know that you're gonna spend some time on reddit
00:05:38 ◼ ► you're gonna find some useful information but also you know because when you sign up for reddit you
00:05:43 ◼ ► know you're gonna have some absolutely nasty vile people on there and at least they're honest about
00:05:50 ◼ ► it you know like it's always been this way they don't even try to make it better but you know i
00:05:57 ◼ ► honestly think i get more value out of reddit like if i had to say okay let's assume let's assume
00:06:02 ◼ ► that i have 30 minutes to waste all right and i get to choose do i want to waste 30 minutes
00:06:08 ◼ ► on tiktok on instagram on x the everything app or on reddit or youtube and i actually think that
00:06:16 ◼ ► out of those 30 wasted minutes i get a higher value ratio out of reddit than the others i don't know
00:06:26 ◼ ► just my my personal yeah i don't i don't i'm not a fan of reddit like not for like the typical reasons
00:06:34 ◼ ► like i just don't really i'm just i just don't really like it like you know yeah just reddit's
00:06:40 ◼ ► not my deal i i like it for like um information you know yeah that's that's what i mean yeah i mean like
00:06:46 ◼ ► if i google something and a reddit thread comes up i will probably click on that first but i i don't
00:06:51 ◼ ► like browse reddit you know what i mean like i don't have like um like i don't i don't i used
00:06:57 ◼ ► too i used to use narwhal right and i used to like have a few subreddits that i would keep up with
00:07:02 ◼ ► but there's just like most of the subreddits that i was in that they just kind of trend towards like
00:07:07 ◼ ► just like bitterness and nastiness oh yeah man yeah yeah they're so nasty yeah and it's just not what
00:07:14 ◼ ► i'm looking for you know um because these are the people i would unfollow on social media you know
00:07:20 ◼ ► but like i i can't get it you can't really get away from what's i can't believe i'm saying this but
00:07:25 ◼ ► what's nice about it compared to other places is that very so often like you go at least the i don't
00:07:33 ◼ ► know the subreddits i go in um if there's even a even a slight hint of someone being like i'm just
00:07:41 ◼ ► gonna be super upfront about it like they absolutely hate nazis which is not something that you would
00:07:47 ◼ ► think is a an obvious thing some social networks encourage you exactly so at least they got that
00:07:55 ◼ ► going on reddit they they don't like those people at least at least they don't like nazis on reddit
00:08:01 ◼ ► the least they can do you know what a high bar i don't know what a high bar right i mean at least
00:08:07 ◼ ► they got that which is not a given sadly anyway i've had a bunch of people send me the polar loop
00:08:16 ◼ ► um polar is a heart rate monitor company i think um was this the one that you had federico was that a
00:08:23 ◼ ► polar i don't know you tell me it was it actually was um and uh they've made a subscription free
00:08:33 ◼ ► alternative to the whoop band it's coming out later this month it's two hundred dollars um and it does
00:08:40 ◼ ► similar ish kinds of things tracks your activity sleep and heart rate it has eight days battery life
00:08:46 ◼ ► the thing about this though right like this is it people sent me this this is interesting
00:08:50 ◼ ► what is the app experience like so like that because like i'm looking at a screen a couple of
00:08:59 ◼ ► screenshots of their app and it doesn't look as nice to use i would say as as whoop does but i'll be
00:09:07 ◼ ► intrigued to see if people review this i would expect that victoria song at the verge will review
00:09:13 ◼ ► this and it will be keen i'll be keen to get the answers at least um but i'm i'm not sure this well
00:09:19 ◼ ► i have already subscribed to whoop and like the way that whoop works you don't pay them monthly
00:09:23 ◼ ► you pay them annually so i'm in i'm in you know um but yeah it's an interesting thing that's out there
00:09:30 ◼ ► for people uh but i still want apple to do this a couple of like maybe a week or so ago there was
00:09:37 ◼ ► someone on threads who made like a concept of of an apple whoop band yeah i saw again it i saw yeah a
00:09:42 ◼ ► bunch of people like oh mike this is what you want it's like yes wait wait wait wait wait was it concepts
00:09:48 ◼ ► of a band what are you saying what is that what are you saying trump was asked about health care and he
00:09:55 ◼ ► said he had concepts of a plan yeah i'm not as plugged in on it as you i think i think maybe
00:10:01 ◼ ► these references might work with some of if you got that let me know on which switch social network
00:10:08 ◼ ► reddit india no not reddit oh man i could federico i love you but boy i disagree uh but i also agree
00:10:16 ◼ ► that instagram is bad on the ipad i installed it and hated it and i'll never use it steven you
00:10:23 ◼ ► had a post on your vlog uh where you've put your your i don't know flag in the ground for the name
00:10:30 ◼ ► of the folding iphone that's right this is i just wanted to put it out here on the show too it's a
00:10:35 ◼ ► it's a mega ricky is what this is because i'm a year ahead of my time okay iphone ultra
00:10:43 ◼ ► it's the name of the folding pretty decent pretty decent pretty decent pretty decent yeah i think
00:10:51 ◼ ► they're going to put fold in it honestly but i like where you're coming from is this is this is if
00:10:56 ◼ ► it's not going to be that right if it's not going to be folding it's probably this uh or max but that
00:11:02 ◼ ► sounds ridiculous um yeah you never know hey it is september unlike last week when it wasn't september
00:11:11 ◼ ► and i said it was september but now it really is september and september is childhood cancer awareness
00:11:16 ◼ ► and that means that relay for saint jude is back can you feel it can you feel it boys we're back
00:11:26 ◼ ► raising money for saint jude as of this recording we are at eighty thousand dollars for saint jude which
00:11:32 ◼ ► is so amazing you can help grow that number by going to saintjude.org slash relay mike why would
00:11:41 ◼ ► somebody want to do that well they want to be able to give money to saint jude and that is the
00:11:46 ◼ ► place to do it and they can also support the campaign that we've been running so this is the seventh time
00:11:51 ◼ ► that the relay community has come together to support the life-saving work of saint jude children's
00:11:55 ◼ ► research hospital uh over these seven years six years again i don't remember how it works but we've
00:12:02 ◼ ► done it seven times and we've raised four million dollars uh together as a community we raised a million
00:12:06 ◼ ► dollars last year which was absolutely unbelievable and a fantastic way to celebrate relay 10 but we're
00:12:12 ◼ ► asking you again as we will do every year for as long as we possibly can to go to stjude.org slash relay
00:12:18 ◼ ► and donate i want to talk a little bit about something called the transition oncology program at saint jude
00:12:26 ◼ ► the end of treatment is not the end of support the transition oncology program also known as top
00:12:31 ◼ ► which is good because transition oncology program is hard to say this helps prepare families for a
00:12:37 ◼ ► smoother transition from treatment to everyday life top develops a treatment summary to help families and
00:12:43 ◼ ► their local health care providers move forward to help families plan for their child's specific needs
00:12:48 ◼ ► saint jude will screen for possible mental and emotional health concerns find out if the child needs
00:12:53 ◼ ► school or job training support find out if they need health uh finding help help finding health insurance
00:12:59 ◼ ► um help families across health care services and provide education about the child's current and future
00:13:05 ◼ ► health needs this is just part of the comprehensive care provided by saint jude because being like
00:13:14 ◼ ► um and they know this and it's kind of just one of the ways that a saint jude patient is always part of
00:13:21 ◼ ► the saint jude family yeah that transition is really hard we did it with our son who is a pediatric cancer
00:13:27 ◼ ► survivor thanks to saint jude you know we went through that transition and it's it's tough because you have
00:13:33 ◼ ► a lot of questions about what do i tell his doctors in the future what should we be looking out for how do we
00:13:39 ◼ ► manage these things and top is just one part of that making sure that families have what they need
00:13:48 ◼ ► they're equipped with what they need to move forward and i love this program i think it's super important
00:13:54 ◼ ► and y'all it is like one brick in a giant wall of things that saint jude does for families with kids with
00:14:03 ◼ ► cancer and catastrophic disease and not just kids who come to memphis for treatment at saint jude because saint
00:14:09 ◼ ► jude shares their research and their information freely around the world we've gotten several
00:14:15 ◼ ► emails this month already of people in across the u.s and in europe having kids facing cancer
00:14:22 ◼ ► and who weren't treated at saint jude but their care was influenced by saint jude's research and
00:14:28 ◼ ► information and in some cases doctors actually partnering with doctors at saint jude to make sure
00:14:33 ◼ ► they're making the best decisions it's a whole circle of care a complete circle of care with saint jude and
00:14:39 ◼ ► that's why this is important so please go to saint jude.org slash relay and donate you can also sign up
00:14:46 ◼ ► and become a fundraiser and this is a great way to get the fundraising in front of your own communities
00:14:52 ◼ ► your own your own people and uh there's a bunch of uh different incentives and rewards you can uh you can
00:15:00 ◼ ► do but i want to draw your attention specifically this week to the the matching program so a lot of
00:15:06 ◼ ► companies will match their employees donations and there's information about that if you scroll down
00:15:12 ◼ ► that page um and it's a great way for your money to go even further and i can tell you because i have
00:15:19 ◼ ► the data it makes a big difference in campaigns like ours and so if you donate check out that that
00:15:26 ◼ ► information on the page talk to your company and see if they will match your donation it's uh
00:15:30 ◼ ► can be a huge impact for really basically no work so go check that out saint jude.org slash relay
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00:18:02 ◼ ► the rickies is a game connected host hey that's us play before apple keynotes and the beginning of a new year
00:18:14 ◼ ► we're trying to predict future events it's made up of three rounds each host makes two regular picks
00:18:21 ◼ ► followed by a risky pick there are two types of rickies today we are playing keynote rickies because
00:18:28 ◼ ► it's september not january the keynote rickies winner is named the keynote chairman and this position is held
00:18:35 ◼ ► until the next keynote host should be introduced at the top of each episode according to their current titles
00:19:26 ◼ ► hosts can be granted a bonus regular pick for any previously incorrect pick that has now come true
00:20:21 ◼ ► picks must have been approved as risky by the two other hosts before the start of the game
00:20:31 ◼ ► picks for the keynote rookies cannot be reused by the host who made them for the next keynote
00:20:55 ◼ ► scoring is completed during the recording and cannot be modified once an episode is complete
00:21:14 ◼ ► jason snell previously had a lifetime ban on flipping any coins in relation to the rookies
00:21:20 ◼ ► however after graduating coin flip university during the 2024 podcastathon for saint jude
00:21:53 ◼ ► it is september uh which means that steven and i will be uh dueling uh on the 19th of september
00:22:33 ◼ ► okay i'll tell you boys i'm gonna try and play this very strategically because i want to keep my title
00:22:50 ◼ ► i like maybe there is i like to keep it on your toes you know that maybe that's the strategy
00:23:01 ◼ ► so there's gonna be a thin iphone i don't want to i don't want to say what it's gonna be called
00:23:07 ◼ ► will it be called will it be called air will it be called slim who knows i think it's gonna be called
00:23:18 ◼ ► so yeah i think there's gonna be a thin iphone we'll know it when we see it they're gonna make a big deal
00:23:27 ◼ ► i will be outside of this pick i will be curious to see if it'll be as thin as an ipod pro i don't think it will
00:23:46 ◼ ► uh but i think it's gonna be appreciably thinner than the current gen 16 pro max for example so that's
00:23:53 ◼ ► gonna be interesting and also it'll be interesting to see how much of a premium you you're gonna pay
00:23:59 ◼ ► for such a thin iphone i think it's gonna be interesting to have that contrast especially
00:24:05 ◼ ► between the the iphone 17 pro and the iphone 17 air like how do you price that i would like to talk
00:24:11 ◼ ► about that specifically later on in today's episode yeah yeah okay um i saw somebody a couple of days
00:24:19 ◼ ► ago using an iphone 6 um on a bus wow that phone looked so thin like it really isn't that much different
00:24:30 ◼ ► it's like a millimeter thinner than an iphone 16 right and let me see where it is it's a 6.9 millimeters
00:24:38 ◼ ► for the iphone 6 but i think part of it it was definitely based on okay so the iphone pro is
00:24:45 ◼ ► eight millimeters so it's quite a significant difference to the iphone pro so like the phone
00:24:49 ◼ ► that i'm using so that that is like just like 25 thinner and also it didn't have this huge camera bump
00:24:57 ◼ ► right so it did make me think about the fact that what is this this phone might feel thinner it's
00:25:08 ◼ ► probably going to feel thinner than it looks the air right because all of the case rumors have that
00:25:14 ◼ ► it still has like a big bar that goes across the top so like you know if you're looking at it maybe
00:25:18 ◼ ► that kind of skews it but when you hold it in your hand it's going to be super thin and light and like
00:25:23 ◼ ► that's kind of the the pull of it but yeah just seeing somebody use an iphone 6 it's like wow we
00:25:29 ◼ ► didn't know what we had the the funniest thing about that is in people were like worked up about the
00:25:35 ◼ ► little camera protrusion on the iphone 6 and 6 plus it's like oh buddy you don't you don't know what's
00:25:42 ◼ ► coming like yeah yeah i mean especially what we may be about to get this is all camera back there
00:25:48 ◼ ► yeah it's gonna be gonna be exciting uh yeah fedega i think you're gonna you're gonna get this um it
00:25:54 ◼ ► is interesting you know samsung beat apple to the punch on this but i don't think that phone has done
00:25:58 ◼ ► anything so we'll see if that's not available better success is it not they just they just showed it
00:26:04 ◼ ► okay yeah no i don't but mostly i think it's gonna be interesting to see if that so they've been
00:26:10 ◼ ► trying to make sense out of this fourth iphone in the lineup forever oh yeah and and maybe this time
00:26:15 ◼ ► around the air will be successful oh no it is it is available now apologies sorry yeah okay before
00:26:20 ◼ ► we get the follow-up it they initially showed it off and gave no information and then it came out
00:26:25 ◼ ► to not much fanfare sorry i i guess what's gonna be interesting is seeing if people actually want
00:26:32 ◼ ► a phone with less battery and worse cameras just because it's thin you know so because i understand
00:26:43 ◼ ► thinness as as part of you know preparation for a foldable but that's a completely separate product
00:26:49 ◼ ► right you're getting a foldable here you're getting a regular iphone that sure it's thinner but also
00:27:02 ◼ ► we'll see i guess yeah i want it but not as my main phone you know exactly i'm not i don't i'm not
00:27:08 ◼ ► going to replace my i'm not expecting to replace my pro iphone with the air like that's for sure
00:27:14 ◼ ► you know yeah yeah yeah what i don't know what i'm gonna do i i could do something i could do
00:27:20 ◼ ► something wild yes you i was talking i was talking to uh chance miller the other day about about this
00:27:27 ◼ ► very thing of like man the air would be like really good for content but ultimately i probably want the
00:27:31 ◼ ► features of the pro and he was like yeah i mean maybe i'll just flip-flop i was like oh i can't relate
00:27:37 ◼ ► to that i've never i've never flip-flopped on a phone it's gonna be fascinating to see what you do
00:27:44 ◼ ► um because i'm i am hoping that on the day it comes out will someone will have one yeah um and
00:27:51 ◼ ► it will i think the key will be how how quick will it be until you return to the apple store
00:27:58 ◼ ► you know like how fast will it be until that happens i guess we'll find out yeah we'll see i'm i'm
00:28:05 ◼ ► intrigued by it all right my first round pick apple has a new case option to replace fine woven
00:28:12 ◼ ► so yeah i mean i don't know about that name but i said it on upgrade and jason was like well
00:28:20 ◼ ► fine woven wasn't a good name so oh yeah you know what like they're both bad um i think this was obvious
00:28:26 ◼ ► right like apple replaced their leather cases with a new premium case option which did not perform well
00:28:33 ◼ ► um they didn't do it again so they ended up going last year with only only the silicone which you
00:28:39 ◼ ► definitely know is not what they would prefer they want to have a expensive and more expensive phone
00:28:45 ◼ ► case available for you to buy um so i would expect that the team that has been working a team that i
00:28:51 ◼ ► kind of feel sorry for in a way because i bet it took a lot of time to find a replacement for leather
00:28:57 ◼ ► and now they had to start that process all over again however i will say that team did not do a
00:29:02 ◼ ► good job the first time around sorry to say it but that case was bad um it was bad at basically not
00:29:09 ◼ ► it was bad at many of the things that a case needs to be good at um i will be intrigued to see what this
00:29:16 ◼ ► feels like what the kind of specs of it are um especially like some of the stuff i just don't understand like
00:29:22 ◼ ► some of the the leaks seem to suggest that the camera control area is just a cut out which just
00:29:28 ◼ ► feels like i will be shocked if they do that pretty that'd be pretty sad i mean i would be shocked if
00:29:36 ◼ ► the silicone case has a little piece of sapphire in it but the more expensive case they're like i just
00:29:40 ◼ ► jam your finger in there you know like who's it gonna hurt so yeah it's gonna be interesting there's
00:29:46 ◼ ► going to be more eyes on this case than there would normally be eyes on a case right like that's that's
00:29:51 ◼ ► the problem that this product has nobody really paid that much attention to the apple leather cases year
00:29:57 ◼ ► in and year out right like you knew what it was and you did it fine woven came out people weren't really
00:30:02 ◼ ► paying attention to it until they started getting them and they were weird and and like they were
00:30:06 ◼ ► acting strangely like you know like the they were getting all scuffed and and stuff like that i think
00:30:12 ◼ ► steven's ports were misaligned on his one like it just was didn't really seem to be like a very
00:30:16 ◼ ► complete product so but now you know people are going to be taking keys to this thing as soon as they
00:30:23 ◼ ► open the packaging so plus i'm sorry i'm already going on about this now um it will be they'll be under
00:30:30 ◼ ► under a particular amount of scrutiny because case talk and articles can be written in the time
00:30:36 ◼ ► before the iphones are out and so all of the tech websites and and also the tech podcasts like this one
00:30:43 ◼ ► we're looking for stories during that time right like that week in between and the cases usually arrive
00:30:49 ◼ ► in the week in between so you're kind of like yeah people will be wanting to put these things to the
00:30:55 ◼ ► test and because they need things to talk about so it's going to be fascinating to see what happens
00:31:01 ◼ ► i think they've probably learned their lessons here and i i hope this is good you know the the leaks
00:31:05 ◼ ► about this they're reminiscent of the peak design cases which i really like and so i am hopeful that
00:31:12 ◼ ► they get it right this time but i haven't actually used an apple first party case since the fine woven
00:31:19 ◼ ► thing fell apart i mean there's lots of other good options out there apple has a lot of competition to
00:31:25 ◼ ► get it right uh that they really need to okay my first round pick the iphone pro and pro max have
00:31:33 ◼ ► different camera systems hmm i think i think well i mean uh i mean technically they are always
00:31:43 ◼ ► different because they're two different phones so you could get this point on a technicality yes
00:31:49 ◼ ► a feature is different you know what i'm saying a feature is different between the two my suspicion is
00:31:54 ◼ ► that it's zoom related but we'll see these things have to be said on the podcast because you know if
00:32:01 ◼ ► you're tied with one of us you might try and try and you know weasel your way in yeah saying like well you
00:32:07 ◼ ► you know you know from phone but yes so you think zoom zoom is what you know that'd be my unofficial
00:32:13 ◼ ► guess yeah i found a weird rumor which seemed to suggest there was a rumor that suggested that there
00:32:18 ◼ ► was the possibility of a mechanical aperture in the pro max that you could change the aperture
00:32:23 ◼ ► mechan mechanical okay wow hey maybe that's what camera control is good for actually controlling the
00:32:30 ◼ ► camera they should repurpose camera control for that instead of the weird swipe that nobody uses i have
00:32:36 ◼ ► camera control follow-up i totally forgot so i was setting up a new iphone 16 for a family member
00:32:44 ◼ ► this earlier this week and in like the setup flow there's camera control and there's an option like
00:32:51 ◼ ► in the setup do you want it just to be a button or do you want all the swipey stuff and i think i didn't
00:32:56 ◼ ► take a screenshot but i think it defaulted to just be a simple button which i found really interesting
00:33:02 ◼ ► and this was on ios 18 you know they're not it's a family member i'm not putting them on the beta
00:33:05 ◼ ► that that because they added that at a certain point and i guess they just made that part of
00:33:10 ◼ ► the setup flow but you wouldn't necessarily see that unless you were starting fresh right they're not
00:33:14 ◼ ► gonna they're gonna ask you about that huh that's interesting i was surprised that i mean and who knows
00:33:21 ◼ ► right like the the camera is one of the camera app often has changes very late um i was surprised that
00:33:29 ◼ ► the camera control button continued to work exactly the same in 26 me too honestly i think it's too
00:33:36 ◼ ► complicated and that my mind hasn't changed after a year every once in a while i turn it back on because
00:33:41 ◼ ► i just use it as a button i'm like no this is a mess in here yeah i i only ever use it to open the camera
00:33:49 ◼ ► app i don't take pictures of it because i just don't i don't like the the pressing of the button i don't
00:33:55 ◼ ► think it's it's a very comfortable button to press um so i i use the on-screen camera button but i
00:34:01 ◼ ► do like having a dedicated button to open the camera from literally whatever same same yeah i use it all
00:34:07 ◼ ► the time for that okay that brings us into round two round two uh my round two pick is the pro iphones
00:34:17 ◼ ► have a wider rectangular camera bar on the back uh whereby rectangular i mean we we know what i mean
00:34:26 ◼ ► like it's gonna be wider and longer than the square-ish yeah thing we have now yeah can we say
00:34:34 ◼ ► rectangular ish rectangular ish yes because i mean i just want that in the official record it's not a
00:34:41 ◼ ► rectangular can we say squircle oh round round direct yeah um i think it's gonna like initially
00:34:51 ◼ ► when i saw the leaks months and months ago i thought oh my god that's so ugly it it is actually it's kind
00:34:58 ◼ ► of weird to say that a leaked design has been growing on me i guess we'll see what the official
00:35:04 ◼ ► one looks like but it has been growing on me i think it's like i think i actually gonna like the more
00:35:09 ◼ ► balanced um look i don't know maybe just a fashion thing that more and more phones are doing it now
00:35:15 ◼ ► and my eyes are getting used to it as an idea i don't know it looks good on the pixel phones like
00:35:20 ◼ ► it does this is a design that looks good on the pixel phones it is wild to me in a way for apple to
00:35:26 ◼ ► follow google in hardware design but like yeah google of google set this as like a thing everybody laughed
00:35:33 ◼ ► at it and then over time it's like you know what this actually just looks good like it's like it looks
00:35:37 ◼ ► different it looks modern because all the other phones they're trying their best to to downplay it
00:35:45 ◼ ► right like even though they're making them bigger all the time but it's like no no no it's just one
00:35:50 ◼ ► corner that's like this the rest of the phone it's fine and i think people are gonna dig it like i think
00:35:55 ◼ ► it you know it will pass the rocking test which i'm pretty sure is only a thing youtubers do i don't
00:36:02 ◼ ► know if anyone in real life really please don't please don't write to me please don't you know what
00:36:07 ◼ ► i'm saying i just stop all right not you do you too should you feel so offended by the fact that mike
00:36:12 ◼ ► said that nobody rocks their phone on a table in real life please don't send us an email please don't
00:36:18 ◼ ► please don't um i so i feel like you know it will it will make that part work and i and i think people
00:36:25 ◼ ► might like you know i don't know how it will feel to hold but like it might be like a thing where a
00:36:30 ◼ ► lot of people could rest a finger right there or whatever and it becomes like for many of the reasons
00:36:35 ◼ ► i use a pop socket like the main one is it's not even extending it it's just having something to like
00:36:41 ◼ ► rest my finger against it just gives you a like a nice grip point people might like it for that um i think
00:36:47 ◼ ► it's going to go down well and and it's also going to serve the main purpose which makes every iphone
00:36:53 ◼ ► look like a new one yep thank you i was going to say that because it's going to sound silly but it
00:36:57 ◼ ► gives you an instant way to tell that somebody's using a new iphone and it's a good conversation
00:37:02 ◼ ► starter with people in general like hey is that the new one pro and the air the regular iphone 17
00:37:08 ◼ ► seems to just basically look like the 16 i mean nobody buys that so please don't send me an email about
00:37:14 ◼ ► that also you did last year you did was it last year well yeah i used the plus for a while you
00:37:23 ◼ ► flip-flopped yeah who's the flip-flopper now son yeah no no don't even no don't even try don't even
00:37:29 ◼ ► don't even go there i mean you are the guru of it's true so you know looking at my iphone 16 plus
00:37:38 ◼ ► to make this thing rectangular doesn't even double it in size like it's already past the 50 mark
00:37:44 ◼ ► width wise um but i am excited about this i think it looks really good all right my second round pick
00:37:51 ◼ ► is that the apple watch ultra finally goes to three oh finally wow about time i need a new apple watch
00:38:00 ◼ ► so i will say that there this this pick is not as like basic as it looks on the surface because like i
00:38:07 ◼ ► could have just said the apple watch ultra finally gets a revision but like i'm like no i'm gonna put my
00:38:13 ◼ ► like i'm gonna say it's gonna be the apple watch ultra 3 which is again not like incredibly uh risky
00:38:18 ◼ ► or anything but this you know i could have gone i could have gone more safe than i did uh they
00:38:23 ◼ ► absolutely need to do this uh like how long are we going to do this thing i i do think that it will
00:38:28 ◼ ► be a bit of a change um i think it will probably be more like the series 10 you know um in kind of
00:38:35 ◼ ► like in design like make the screen a little bit bigger flatten out the sides maybe make it thinner would be
00:38:39 ◼ ► nice but who knows if they'll get there i'm also going with a three uh apple announces airpods pro
00:38:50 ◼ ► three so uh it's been a minute since we've had new airpods pro i was thinking about this in this pick
00:38:57 ◼ ► it's kind of amazing how much apple has added to airpods pro 2 over their lifetime like in terms of
00:39:03 ◼ ► features and uh i think they're going to build on that i think unofficially the heart rate sensing
00:39:09 ◼ ► stuff that came in those beats headphones seemed like an obvious win for airpods pro 3 and uh yeah
00:39:15 ◼ ► i think we'll see them next to the iphone i think they want they want it to share the spotlight with
00:39:19 ◼ ► the phone yeah be interesting to see what they actually do here right like heart rate monitoring is
00:39:28 ◼ ► one then there's been like a bunch of weird rumors right like infrared cameras for i don't know what
00:39:33 ◼ ► um will they redesign it will what you know what what else is going to be in the the airpods pro are
00:39:41 ◼ ► they going to make significant changes to the sound profile again like will they add any more modes
00:39:47 ◼ ► right we've got like adaptive mode um stuff like that like i and and the here's what i want actually i'm
00:39:53 ◼ ► going to just say this this is a software thing um the conversational awareness mode i should be
00:39:59 ◼ ► able to turn that off for the music app because i can't sing along to music yes yes so i i would
00:40:07 ◼ ► like the ability to turn that off for the music app or use the power of apple intelligence to understand
00:40:13 ◼ ► that i'm singing along to the music i'm listening to yeah also in the future like three years from now
00:40:19 ◼ ► when they have apple glasses uh i the future that i imagine i'm wearing apple glasses and i'm wearing
00:40:27 ◼ ► also airpods and i don't want the conversation awareness to kick in because the uh the glasses
00:40:33 ◼ ► recognize that i'm talking to my dogs so that's the kind of ai i want to see oh right the glasses see
00:40:40 ◼ ► the dogs exactly like because i'm talking to them i'm like hey like and from what like i think also
00:40:47 ◼ ► jason had this problem i mentioned yeah on upgrade a few months ago like recognize that i'm just talking
00:40:53 ◼ ► to my dogs you don't need to pause because like they're not actually going to talk back to me
00:40:57 ◼ ► unfortunately although i want apple to do some kind of like super high quality like bone conduction or
00:41:03 ◼ ► something you know like the like where it doesn't actually make noise yeah that would be cool in the
00:41:17 ◼ ► yes uh do we have any bonus round picks no okay well you know what's happening next the ad
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00:43:10 ◼ ► all right federico let's get risky okay so i think i am going to read my risky pick first and then
00:43:19 ◼ ► i'm going to explain the context and why i chose this one so the as we know the the new risky pick format
00:43:25 ◼ ► has an opening statement and three conditions the opening statement is the new iphone 17 pro devices
00:43:37 ◼ ► condition number one they have more ram than other iphones and can run on device models faster
00:43:44 ◼ ► number two the 17 pros can run the seven billion version of apple foundation model on device
00:43:52 ◼ ► number three the 17 pros get new image and or camera related ai features so here's what i'm thinking
00:44:05 ◼ ► about here um rumors are suggesting that the the pros and maybe the air as of a leak of today will have 12
00:44:15 ◼ ► gigabytes of ram as opposed to the previous uh eight gigabytes of ram that is on the current generation
00:44:21 ◼ ► iphone models the currently the on-device apple intelligence that you have the model that gets downloaded on
00:44:31 ◼ ► on your iphone 16 or 16 pro today is the 4 billion model small one i believe two-bit quantization they
00:44:43 ◼ ► mentioned last year anyway it's a small and kind of i don't want to say dumb but kind of that it's a very
00:44:49 ◼ ► small and not so intelligent model that can run on your phone that all that only has eight gigabytes of ram
00:44:57 ◼ ► so it can run that model plus also let you use your phone normally um now as as we have seen especially
00:45:05 ◼ ► in android android land for the past 12 years over the past year it seems like 12 gigabytes of ram
00:45:12 ◼ ► is the sweet spot right now if you want to have a better model for on-device ai than the 4 billion apple
00:45:21 ◼ ► apple intelligence one and also get to use your phone with multitasking taking pictures taking 4k videos
00:45:29 ◼ ► the usual stuff so if apple is doing 12 gigabytes of ram on an iphone i could see first of all condition
00:45:37 ◼ ► number one they have more ram than other iphones and can run on device models faster i could see apple say
00:45:42 ◼ ► well apple intelligence we have some big upgrades for apple intelligence on the on the new iphones
00:45:48 ◼ ► first of all it runs faster than your previous phone because i mean uh time to first token token
00:45:54 ◼ ► generation per second like those are all metrics that you can observe on a computer today you can
00:46:00 ◼ ► observe on a phone today and i would imagine that apple would like to say we have better we have the a19
00:46:08 ◼ ► we have more memory your apple intelligence tasks can run faster i was thinking to myself like why
00:46:16 ◼ ► did i even have a grounds to speak on this kind of stuff right because like apple intelligence i just
00:46:21 ◼ ► don't think you're seeing in the conversation but then i thought about johnny sruji down in the lab
00:46:27 ◼ ► he just says stuff you know he just says he's just like out there and he's like my flops and tops are
00:46:32 ◼ ► just like the best yeah i mean believe it and also if you want to be taken seriously in the ai industry
00:46:38 ◼ ► which i think apple one would like to be taken with some amount of seriousness at some point um
00:46:45 ◼ ► you would need to show those metrics right if you are serious about ai and for serious about saying well
00:46:51 ◼ ► our our phones are ai phones also just saying well on these new devices with these new chips and this
00:46:57 ◼ ► more memory we can have a shorter time to first token when you ask a question we can generate more tokens
00:47:03 ◼ ► per second when you're waiting for a response especially and this brings me to my second
00:47:08 ◼ ► condition especially if for the past three months you've been making such a big deal out of the fact
00:47:16 ◼ ► that your third-party developers will be able to tap into on-device foundation models which is what's
00:47:22 ◼ ► happening with ios 26 now so your apple you're making a big deal out of the fact that the third-party
00:47:30 ◼ ► developers can integrate with apple intelligence great and when they do all they get is the small
00:47:36 ◼ ► and kind of bad four billion foundation model that's not i mean obviously that's not ideal right you would
00:47:44 ◼ ► like to have developers use an even better model so i think that there's an opening here for apple to say
00:47:52 ◼ ► on the new iphones uh third-party apps get automatically upgraded to the bigger uh seven
00:48:00 ◼ ► billion version of apple foundation model now why that one uh first of all that is the current version
00:48:06 ◼ ► that runs on private cloud compute oh if if you compare a seven billion model um and you sort of run
00:48:17 ◼ ► some just do some research you can get those kinds of models on android running there's plenty of cases
00:48:23 ◼ ► of those models running on phones with 12 gigabytes of RAM that seems like a i mean i i have no doubt that
00:48:30 ◼ ► you're right but like it seemed like quite a jump to me to be like the private cloud compute model can
00:48:35 ◼ ► now run locally like that that would be quite intense right you would need to be quantized so we need to be
00:48:41 ◼ ► optimized for a phone rather than whatever what do they have a mac studio in the cloud or something i
00:48:47 ◼ ► don't know um but you know i could see apple saying on these new phones we can have a bigger apple
00:48:52 ◼ ► intelligence model which means uh better responses maybe more languages you know that kind of stuff
00:49:00 ◼ ► there was also a rumor a few months ago by mark german that apple was testing uh bigger models in private
00:49:06 ◼ ► cloud compute so i could see apple basically progressively saying over time some models will
00:49:11 ◼ ► graduate to running on device and in the cloud we're gonna progressively move to bigger and bigger models
00:49:17 ◼ ► and condition number three uh i think they have to have some kind of response to the fact that google
00:49:25 ◼ ► and samsung are absolutely running away with the idea that they have ai phones that have serious
00:49:32 ◼ ► artificial intelligence based uh camera and image features so the iphone event is always a an
00:49:40 ◼ ► opportunity for apple to showcase some new photos and camera stuff and i think i mean they do this every
00:49:46 ◼ ► year uh and i think they're gonna have some kind of ai angle here i don't know what it is but i think
00:49:53 ◼ ► it's not i would be surprised if it's just gonna be yeah we have a better lens you're gonna take better
00:49:58 ◼ ► pictures that's it i think they're gonna have something that is about apple intelligence that
00:50:03 ◼ ► is about ai and they're gonna say it as part of the photos or camera segments did you see the google
00:50:11 ◼ ► photos gemini i think where you just like say what you want done to an image yeah does it apple has a
00:50:17 ◼ ► white paper on it remember we talked about it last year natural language white paper natural language
00:50:23 ◼ ► editing project raccoon something you know they all had weird names no it wasn't raccoon but yes i mean
00:50:29 ◼ ► why not uh that but yeah google have done that now right like that's in google photos so maybe something
00:50:36 ◼ ► like that i don't know that'd be also a bigger a bigger model also lets you do that so yeah um steven you
00:50:43 ◼ ► might be able to help me with this question the a19 pro which would be the chip that we'd expect to see
00:50:50 ◼ ► is this the first time we see kind of like a core that would go to the m5 uh or is this m4
00:50:57 ◼ ► i don't remember how what what way around it goes i don't remember okay maybe the discord knows
00:51:06 ◼ ► is the a19 pro gonna be the one on the updated uh three nanometer process i think the a18 pro was
00:51:15 ◼ ► wasn't it yeah the a18 is the second generation well well there's a second generation of the of the
00:51:22 ◼ ► first third nanometer or is it a new third it's gonna no the a19 pro will be the third generation
00:51:27 ◼ ► three nanometer process jason says it's the same core as the m5 so that's there you go that's the
00:51:33 ◼ ► information that i was looking for he's the person to know that so the all that to say that's another
00:51:37 ◼ ► reason why you would spend time talking about the ai performance in this chip is because the people that
00:51:43 ◼ ► care about what apple might do over the next year in their hardware this would be the first implication
00:51:49 ◼ ► of the capabilities of it right in theory yeah yeah all right cool my pick uh i'm innovating on um a
00:51:59 ◼ ► format of risky picks that i created in september of 2021 which informs the current system where i made a
00:52:08 ◼ ► a pick about the ipad mini and just like threw a bunch of stuff my pick was a new ipad mini is
00:52:14 ◼ ► introduced for a fresh design new colors previously not part of the product usbc smart connector and 5g
00:52:19 ◼ ► support and i got everything except a smart connector it was a heartbreak but the point of that was i
00:52:25 ◼ ► couldn't think of anything super risky anymore so i'm just gonna make it risky by throwing stuff at it
00:52:30 ◼ ► and so this time my pick begins with apple announces the iphone air which that's not risky but now i'm
00:52:38 ◼ ► going for it in the details so detail number one it weighs between 146 to 148 grams that is so
00:52:48 ◼ ► specific okay so either one four six seven or eight the reason that this is also risky is all the rumors
00:52:55 ◼ ► say 145 and i'm just gonna say that no one really knows so i'm going 146 to 148 uh it does not have the
00:53:05 ◼ ► worst quoted battery life of the 17 line it will be equal or better than the 17 wow okay oh boy setting
00:53:16 ◼ ► that baseline okay okay i have two ways that i think they might be able to do this one is a new battery
00:53:23 ◼ ► technology yeah which seems like they're gonna do the other is do you remember all those rumors of a
00:53:29 ◼ ► ai powered battery optimization like there is battery optimization stuff going on in 26 but it's not
00:53:38 ◼ ► powered by apple intelligence there's a lot of rumor about apple intelligence powered my thought is a
00:53:44 ◼ ► combination of new battery technology and software they may be able to get a smaller milliamp power
00:53:59 ◼ ► that's my thought like apple has set kind of like the baseline of a battery right and they do this in
00:54:08 ◼ ► all their products i'm sure they will if they can't do it they can't do it but i'm sure that they will
00:54:13 ◼ ► try by hook or by quirk to not make it seem like this phone has like terrible battery life you know
00:54:27 ◼ ► yeah i i think that may be right for i yeah for a couple a couple of reasons uh one as jason said on
00:54:38 ◼ ► upgrade and federico said earlier that fourth iphone spot that the mini was in and now the plus is in
00:54:45 ◼ ► has struggled and so maybe apple abandons that price point for now i think they also can't build
00:54:51 ◼ ► this phone at that price point but i think most importantly this phone i think like is a on-ramp
00:54:59 ◼ ► to a foldable and that phone is gonna be expensive and so this is a step in that direction yeah well but
00:55:06 ◼ ► that will be a fifth phone yeah yeah but i mean in terms of price point like starting price point
00:55:12 ◼ ► there's gonna be a lot of our a lot of r&d costs in this phone yeah and they're gonna make you pay for
00:55:18 ◼ ► that yeah and so uh yeah i i just i don't i just imagine i don't think there is any need for this to be
00:55:27 ◼ ► in that spot yeah right that like what is it like 899 spot i just can't i also just can't imagine it
00:55:34 ◼ ► it would fit in that spot like this phone is so weird yeah i think that would mean they have to cut
00:55:39 ◼ ► things down and it makes it less of a good phone like for me one thing i really want if the air
00:55:46 ◼ ► doesn't have it it takes it off the table for me is like an always on display i really like it i use
00:55:51 ◼ ► it all the time at my desk 899 maybe they have to give that up but at whatever you're thinking 1299
00:56:06 ◼ ► the iphone 16 and 16 pro max if those prices remain right like those prices that the iphone
00:56:15 ◼ ► 16 the iphone 17 pro might come in at 1099 to begin with there's a rumor that they're going to be more
00:56:20 ◼ ► expensive but come with more storage is like an offset that doesn't make a difference it's still more
00:56:26 ◼ ► expensive you know what it's like you can you can tell me it's for that but it's it's more expensive
00:56:30 ◼ ► um but yeah i think that it will go price wise will be 17 17 pro 17 17 pro max that's what i think it
00:56:38 ◼ ► will be okay i have a question about your first point it weighs between 146 and 148 grams yeah does that
00:56:48 ◼ ► that mean it can weigh 146 147 or 148 yeah that's what he said okay okay does that need to be in
00:56:56 ◼ ► writing doesn't it mean that i think it does but i also read it there's there's there's a hyphen in
00:57:03 ◼ ► between the numbers so technically that's a range of grams okay yeah okay i figure it means that i don't
00:57:08 ◼ ► know but i don't know how words work but okay this is mine i i think i've i've like purposefully gone
00:57:14 ◼ ► i think a bit contrarian of a lot of the things that people think this phone's going to be but
00:57:19 ◼ ► this is also the phone i want you know what i mean like make the battery life good make it more expensive
00:57:24 ◼ ► than the pro so you've actually put what it needs in there i agree with you steven like well i think all
00:57:31 ◼ ► these phones i think it's ridiculous that like the 17 well it's ridiculous that the 16 doesn't have a
00:57:38 ◼ ► promotion display with always on right like the whole line should have that now i'm hoping maybe
00:57:44 ◼ ► this is the year they do it because they kind of i think they kind of have to do it with the air
00:57:48 ◼ ► although the problem with the air is well always on means battery life this one doesn't have a big
00:57:54 ◼ ► battery yeah um i don't know maybe it's always on but like there's not an option to have the
00:58:01 ◼ ► wallpaper so it's more like oledy uh they changed the way that it works by default it was on display
00:58:08 ◼ ► in 26 they made it blurry yeah so you could read your notifications i mean you think that's why i
00:58:14 ◼ ► guarantee you that's why why it is interesting interesting but yeah i turned that off i don't
00:58:19 ◼ ► know why they made that change but they did it okay my risky pick i am sorry for this one i cannot
00:58:27 ◼ ► wait please do it say it the iphone pro and pro max come in a unique finish it refracts slash reflects
00:58:38 ◼ ► light it has a rainbow effect as light passes over it apple calls this finish glass unbelievable what are
00:58:57 ◼ ► steven are you sure you don't want to change this yeah the first point is literally it refracts
00:59:06 ◼ ► reflects light it is first of all it's like those are like two completely opposite things i'm encompassing
00:59:14 ◼ ► light interacting with it that's what i'm that's what i'm getting after i mean this isn't happening
00:59:18 ◼ ► right like you know i feel like you must know this it would have to be a transparent iphone made of
00:59:23 ◼ ► glass-like material and what exactly is it gonna refract or reflect light i said it right there you know
00:59:31 ◼ ► right which what light what light the light the light the light in the world outside you're walking
00:59:38 ◼ ► under a street light and you get a little don't do this do you want to lose like i don't understand
00:59:45 ◼ ► like it felt like you were just like i just don't want i told you this days ago and and and you stuck
00:59:52 ◼ ► with it brought to you by the people who suggested apple was going to make a deck there's no way this
00:59:59 ◼ ► could be in development and we don't know about it but there were rumors about it no there wasn't yeah
01:00:06 ◼ ► there were people saying just absolutely unhinged things about iphones and liquid glass and light will
01:00:19 ◼ ► what what rumors find me the rumors mac rumors tim hardwood okay okay a new rumor out of china
01:00:27 ◼ ► today has sparked speculation that apple may be writing a unique new iphone 17 pro color that
01:00:32 ◼ ► somehow reflects the new design language of its ios 26 design where is this i'll put it in discord
01:00:41 ◼ ► the leaker who only claims to have heard of it but not seen stop reading seems to believe that the
01:00:51 ◼ ► color is what previous leaks have simply referred to as white quote but it appears differently depending
01:01:01 ◼ ► anthony burned me down on the discord steven is trying to balance his lead in the saint jude
01:01:13 ◼ ► yeah oh my head by 130 points a white based material that subtly shifts use depending on
01:01:20 ◼ ► light and angle could add a dynamic on wednesday a mac word report claimed to reveal all of the colors
01:01:26 ◼ ► that each iphone 17 model will come in allegedly based on an internal document the report listed white
01:01:42 ◼ ► okay well all right respect respect well we all look silly you know if if they have the liquid glass
01:01:52 ◼ ► phone if they have the liquid glass phone i will do something in your honor that i will think about
01:02:07 ◼ ► okay to re uh state our risky picks federico says the new iphone 17 pro devices have additional
01:02:20 ◼ ► very specific guesses about weight and price and then i said the iphone pro and pro max come in a unique
01:02:27 ◼ ► finish called glass it is now time for the flexis the flexis is a game held after each edition of
01:02:37 ◼ ► the rickies it consists of a series of additional picks in relation to the upcoming apple event or
01:02:44 ◼ ► year scoring is completed separately from the main game but like the rickies the order of picks is set
01:02:49 ◼ ► by the results of the previous game and ties will be broken by using dice by p calc please lie down
01:02:56 ◼ ► host host must make a minimum of five flexi picks each correct pick is awarded one point wrong picks
01:03:12 ◼ ► do not remove any points and no partial points may be awarded the winner is determined by comparing the
01:03:19 ◼ ► percentage of correct flexis made by each host the winner can use their chosen title as long as they
01:03:25 ◼ ► are the winner federico shall be named prince flexi and is known as king flexi when having won both the
01:03:30 ◼ ► keynote annual games mike has chosen duke of flexington and uses the name arch duke flexington when applicable
01:03:38 ◼ ► i am the attorney general flexi and uses the title secretary of the flex when necessary
01:03:44 ◼ ► loser of the flexis must compensate the winner of the flexis by donating to a charity of the winner's
01:03:50 ◼ ► choice obviously this month i would assume that is at st jude.org slash relay the amount of the donation
01:03:57 ◼ ► is 25 per wrong flexi made by the loser the money must be donated on air if someone holds all four titles
01:04:10 ◼ ► all right i get to go first because i won the flexis at wbdc i have six for now for now
01:04:24 ◼ ► the iphone watch the iphone watch the apple watch ultra series 3 has a larger screen than the ultra 2
01:04:41 ◼ ► don't want to pick a day huh a week is enough it's not a risky is it yeah okay you know flexis aren't
01:04:49 ◼ ► open to judging by the others i'm just asking you know i'm just asking you know i'm just asking
01:04:52 ◼ ► gonna like got it or not because like in your previous round it seemed like you really had
01:04:56 ◼ ► something and now like just wow hey you know you do apple releases a new external iphone battery
01:05:38 ◼ ► i had nine just want to know i had nine and federico had six and now yes federico see now
01:05:44 ◼ ► i have nine and now he has nine you gotta match the high end you know you gotta you gotta you gotta
01:05:50 ◼ ► have a wait till you see the another 11 i have ready to paste it okay all right cool we'll see
01:05:58 ◼ ► number one apple has a new lane yard accessory for the iphone um number two air tags 2 feature ultra
01:06:22 ◼ ► apple designed you one ship for ultra wideband yeah why don't you say i think the rumor is
01:06:38 ◼ ► will be able to support it from further away i think new generation ultra wide band technology
01:06:45 ◼ ► that's how you can like walk to it right because if it's bluetooth it can't be like it's over
01:06:51 ◼ ► there it's over here that kind of thing yeah new generation ultra wide band technology steven you
01:06:56 ◼ ► have stairs in your new house and uh i i wonder if you've yet come across the fact where you're
01:07:02 ◼ ► trying to find something and it's like this might be on another floor have you done that yet
01:07:12 ◼ ► you're like you're getting closer to it but the phone knows you're not actually closer based on
01:07:19 ◼ ► and that's when you know to go over upstairs or downstairs to find your airpods i will have to
01:07:34 ◼ ► this is something we didn't cover but yeah apple can keep getting that sweet sweet money and and no
01:07:39 ◼ ► one's happier about this they will get the money and if they build a search engine they will get the
01:07:45 ◼ ► data from google so that's nice yeah uh tim's a winner yeah number four all iphones have a
01:07:54 ◼ ► a pro motion display i think it's time we're gonna do it number five some of the new iphones have
01:08:02 ◼ ► a redesigned thermal system and big time you know you know that they they should do it these phones get
01:08:08 ◼ ► hot man um number six all iphones have an improved selfie camera so better front-facing camera yeah
01:08:18 ◼ ► do you think they're gonna say slow fees again uh that is a word i haven't heard in such a long time
01:08:24 ◼ ► and i hope to never hear again number seven the back of the pro iphones looks different
01:08:35 ◼ ► i really hope they did the two-tone thing because it also has been going on me yeah that's what you
01:08:40 ◼ ► mean yeah i want that i want that yeah that's gonna be really cool did you hear i also was thinking
01:08:45 ◼ ► about this again which is sometimes i just have to reuse things i say on upgrade to connect it doesn't
01:08:50 ◼ ► happen very often but it will always happen in the prediction episodes wow because titanium made the
01:08:55 ◼ ► phones lighter you go back to aluminium and glass they're gonna go back to where they were and wait no
01:09:01 ◼ ► no no no if you get rid of you i heard you say that on upgrade and you were wrong on upgrade and
01:09:07 ◼ ► you're wrong here yeah they were steel they were lighter than any feedback so am i really wrong i don't
01:09:13 ◼ ► think so i think so well it's tight what's light a titanium or aluminium i think aluminum you said you
01:09:20 ◼ ► think that doesn't sound like i mean they moved to titanium because they were steel we'll see okay
01:09:28 ◼ ► nevertheless i still want it to be light and it will make it light if they replace the gloss oh
01:09:32 ◼ ► yeah yeah definitely number eight shortcuts use model action for apple intelligence is mentioned
01:09:40 ◼ ► slash shown on screen um they could use all the good stuff they can get when talking about apple
01:09:48 ◼ ► intelligence they use model action is pretty cool and number nine ios 26 comes out on monday september 15th
01:09:57 ◼ ► love it uh also by the way uh aluminium is lighter than titanium there you go chat gpt about it and
01:10:05 ◼ ► can you trust that there's also a bunch of people in the discord can we trust them i don't know
01:10:17 ◼ ► yeah all right i've got 11 so far number one no iphone color has the word orange in its name
01:10:27 ◼ ► then even if it's orange they ain't calling it that and just that's that's my thought uh the iphone
01:10:35 ◼ ► line is called 17 okay it's not going to be 26 the iphone 17 air has a promotion display
01:10:44 ◼ ► okay there is an iphone air bumper case okay because you still got to feel how thin that thing is
01:10:52 ◼ ► you know matt display for the pro iphone oh i wish i know i went out when i wrote this down i was
01:11:02 ◼ ► basically wrote it down because of how excited it would make you oh my god why not though right like
01:11:08 ◼ ► they've worked out how to do it it's an option obviously it's an option it's not the display
01:11:14 ◼ ► on the ipad pro you can choose why can't you do it on the iphone pro yes yes for all the same reasons
01:11:52 ◼ ► is there an iphone hair in your pocket you couldn't tell you couldn't tell it's not what
01:12:02 ◼ ► you think oh my word i've gone a bit hot and bothered now um yeah steven you got to be on the
01:12:08 ◼ ► my on on this wavelength for me the iphone 17 air uh yeah i think i'm on the way of an envelope
01:12:14 ◼ ► i think with the ipad air they hid it behind an apple pencil right i think is what they did for
01:12:21 ◼ ► that one and then famously or famous in my own mind for the ipad air 2 they had a laser cut the
01:12:27 ◼ ► pencil down and the ipad air 2 was behind it that was sick i had i was trying to i i had a thought the
01:12:33 ◼ ► other day that i've just had again like i had this thought while i was holding my child so i couldn't
01:12:37 ◼ ► look it up so like there's an answer to this question when did the iphone but the ipad air
01:12:44 ◼ ► become a thing like they they didn't go from ipad to ipad air and back to ipad again right like
01:12:51 ◼ ► the ipad was always available when they had the ipad air right you know what i mean like they added
01:12:56 ◼ ► it as a product right they didn't wasn't it in uh okay 20 2013 the first ipad air was 2013 it
01:13:04 ◼ ► replaced the ipad 4 the ipad my thought was right the well the no the ipad 4 october 2012 to
01:13:14 ◼ ► october 2014 the ipad 5th generation was not till 2017 so there was a gap where there was no regular
01:13:21 ◼ ► ipad that that is that so i'm sorry i phrased it incorrectly my original thought was that the ipad
01:13:28 ◼ ► air was on its own yes and then i was like really did they do because then i was trying to think like
01:13:34 ◼ ► when because then i was lost in like what the ipad air was the ipad air did used to just look like the
01:13:41 ◼ ► ipad it wasn't like um the ipad air now that looks like the ipad pro correct you know what i mean right
01:13:46 ◼ ► so that was fast because they also did that thing was the new ipad right they did that too that yeah
01:13:53 ◼ ► the new ipad that was the third one that was the third one yeah right all of this came from me starting
01:13:58 ◼ ► the thought of do you remember how good the ipad mini 2 was that was the thought that i had and then
01:14:02 ◼ ► sent me down this like like what was the names of all the ipads like i guess what am i gonna do and
01:14:08 ◼ ► i can't do anything except hold this child and it's got to be dark in the room and so i was just
01:14:13 ◼ ► thinking about ipads i feel like federico probably does that kind of stuff uh number eight apple
01:14:19 ◼ ► specifically calls out the blood oxygen features of the apple watch yeah because they've not been
01:14:24 ◼ ► allowed to talk about it but they're getting but they're getting sued again so i don't think they
01:14:28 ◼ ► will i don't think they care if they're shipping it maybe right like they're not being sued again
01:14:37 ◼ ► though right like massimo just said some stuff this is still it's still available it hasn't been taken
01:14:43 ◼ ► off but um yeah yeah uh the 17 line is all made of aluminium all of them uh i was 26 comes out on
01:14:54 ◼ ► tuesday september 16 i really hope you're right look against why not you know yeah yeah let's pick 10
01:15:01 ◼ ► pick 11 no date for mac os tahoe oh john is gonna be so happy and so upset at the same time yeah yeah
01:15:12 ◼ ► man i would be so jealous of john if that's the case yeah i think it i think tahoe needs some more
01:15:19 ◼ ► time in the oven uh i added well one oh wow okay just one there is an orange iphone pro now what are
01:15:31 ◼ ► you saying here like i'm just intrigued because i said no iphone has the word orange in its name
01:15:37 ◼ ► right you saying it's just orange by the eye or yeah yeah name yeah yeah orange by the eye
01:15:55 ◼ ► peak in it right but this is why i'm asking you that question because i think it will be a copper
01:15:59 ◼ ► number eight it'll be orange there is an iphone pro that is copper you just stole it straight from
01:16:40 ◼ ► pro color is called copper oh wait isn't that you have orange by the eye and copper by the eye
01:16:51 ◼ ► come on steve them out you could do whatever you want but like come on come on i thought that you
01:16:59 ◼ ► were saying it was going to be called copper so so now we have orange by the eye and copper by the eye
01:17:04 ◼ ► and it's called copper come on i feel like you're letting your orange side down by just like now saying
01:17:12 ◼ ► it's copper you know i'm here to win number 11 the iphone air is introduced with a video that shows it
01:17:37 ◼ ► laying flat on the surface so here's my question for you did they do that or did they do like the
01:17:45 ◼ ► other thing you know i mean is it like the iphone maybe they pick it up and there's an iphone 6 and
01:17:49 ◼ ► they pick it up again and then there's like a that'd be cool i don't know number 13 oh my god
01:17:54 ◼ ► tim cook says iphone 17 air before anyone else okay yeah makes sense i think he's gonna take the one
01:18:02 ◼ ► one more thing okay is that it i think i'm done i think i'm done okay i think i'm done all right
01:18:11 ◼ ► steven i'm done okay all right well those are the pics boys if you want to find us to make fun of our
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