00:00:00 ◼ ► from relay this is connected episode 585 it's 2026 and happy new year from your ricky benjamin
00:00:15 ◼ ► federico vittici today's show is brought to you by our sponsors century feedback and ecamm and we're
00:00:21 ◼ ► joined in this inaugural episode of a new year by steven happy new year steven happy new year buddy
00:00:28 ◼ ► it's good to be back together good to be back i miss doing the show me too well i was i was glad that
00:00:34 ◼ ► we were on a bit of a break but i miss doing the show yes and i'm joined by uh you obviously but
00:00:48 ◼ ► i've got to say federico i do not feel like you put enough import on saying you were the ricky
00:00:55 ◼ ► benchman because you're probably going to do it for the last time because you're going down
00:01:00 ◼ ► yep am i i i want to make sure of it so we'll see what happens over the score in today's episode
00:01:07 ◼ ► because what are we doing today we are doing the annies i think that's what we call this
00:01:18 ◼ ► what are you doing what are you doing this is just an annual annual annual rickies so we are going to
00:01:26 ◼ ► grade our 2025 picks and we are going to make our 2026 picks and there's links rickies.co and
00:01:35 ◼ ► rickipedia for both in the show notes um buckle up because there's a lot to cover so we made these
00:01:43 ◼ ► picks at the beginning of 2025 yes uh fully confident in what was going to be happening
00:01:52 ◼ ► over the course of a year that i would say was pretty unexpected in the world of apple and you're
00:01:58 ◼ ► going to hear that uh i think throughout today's episode there's a lot of red in this document
00:02:03 ◼ ► there is a lot of red like a lot of it yes federico why don't you get started with what
00:02:17 ◼ ► this is this is my new year uh this is my theme it's uh the year of destroying the show no i watched
00:02:25 ◼ ► your video no it was something else it was something else you if you listen to it backwards then you'll hear
00:02:32 ◼ ► the true intention john is dead or whatever so john oh no it wasn't dj no the beatles thing
00:02:39 ◼ ► yes i know yeah yeah do you ever just read that wikipedia article really late at night and just
00:02:45 ◼ ► wonder about things never read it once but i'll put it in the show notes you should read it okay
00:02:50 ◼ ► the rickies is a game connected host hey that's us play before apple keynotes in the beginning of a
00:02:56 ◼ ► new year trying to predict future events it's made up of three rounds each host makes two regular
00:03:03 ◼ ► picks followed by a risky pick there are two types of rickies annual rickies and keynote rickies the
00:03:10 ◼ ► winner of the annual rickies is named the annual chairman this position is awarded every january
00:03:16 ◼ ► so that's what we're playing today obviously hosts should be introduced at the top of each episode
00:03:21 ◼ ► according to their current titles in the event that a host has both positions annual and keynote chairman
00:03:28 ◼ ► like federico does right now they shall be introduced as the ricky benjamin after the rickies the hosts
00:03:41 ◼ ► each host gets to make two regular picks hosts can be granted a bonus regular pick for any previously
00:03:58 ◼ ► incorrect pick that has now come true from the last three corresponding games a previously incorrect pick
00:04:05 ◼ ► may be used only once correct regular picks are awarded one point the language used for regular
00:04:12 ◼ ► picks must be finalized and agreed upon during recording and no partial points may be awarded
00:04:17 ◼ ► risky picks unsurprisingly have a more complex scoring system each host must make a pick with three
00:04:25 ◼ ► supporting details if you get all three details correct you earn two points two details correct earn
00:04:32 ◼ ► you one point if you get one detail correct you break even with zero points and if you get all three
00:04:39 ◼ ► details wrong you will lose a point points are only awarded based on details not the overall pick
00:04:46 ◼ ► picks must have been approved as risky by the other two hosts before the start of the game
00:04:51 ◼ ► the annual rickies have their own subset of rules once a host chooses something as an annual pick they
00:04:58 ◼ ► cannot reuse it in that calendar year additionally picks may not be used in back-to-back annual rickies
00:05:06 ◼ ► by the same host all hosts are allowed to reuse picks previously made by others scoring is completed
00:05:13 ◼ ► during recording and cannot be modified once an episode is complete in the event of a tie dice by p calc must be
00:05:20 ◼ ► used in relay mode to pick a winner in the case of a three-way tie hosts all make their calls at the
00:05:26 ◼ ► same time with flipping continuing until a winner is named jason snell previously had a lifetime ban on
00:05:34 ◼ ► flipping any coins in relation to the rickies however after graduating coin flip university during the
00:05:41 ◼ ► 2024 podcastathon he can now flip a coin albeit under direct supervision the order of picks is set by
00:05:49 ◼ ► previous performance the winner of the previous associated game goes first the previous loser goes
00:05:55 ◼ ► last winners will be recognized during the closing ceremonies past results can be seen at rookies.co and
00:06:03 ◼ ► rookies.net these sites also have pages about managing your own scorekeeping at home you may be seated
00:06:10 ◼ ► that takes a really long time yeah it's a little complicated um yeah but you know can't do anything
00:06:18 ◼ ► about our today nope okay round one federico you start okay so in round one i said a cheaper iphone is
00:06:30 ◼ ► uh yes correct yes well we got the the and i said uh not part of the big context the sc or something in
00:06:42 ◼ ► its place it was the iphone 16e um that's what it was uh cheaper for sure not cheap but cheaper than other
00:06:50 ◼ ► iphones uh but yes that's what we got and uh it's a point yeah kind of a boring phone but yeah kind of
00:06:58 ◼ ► weird phone also yeah uh i um i bought one for a family member for christmas that's fine oh not like
00:07:18 ◼ ► it's fine they get what they get you know what i mean they get what it's also it's also fine if you
00:07:23 ◼ ► want to say that you don't like your children they were coming from an se3 so it was a pretty good
00:07:27 ◼ ► upgrade i i feel like this is the thing federico you'll probably agree with me like steven got the 16e
00:07:33 ◼ ► so then that can go into his collection later on when that device eventually meets its end because
00:07:45 ◼ ► ah okay there we go the refurbished that's the key all right okay this was quite quite good pick
00:07:54 ◼ ► for you federico because you could have said the se se gets a new design and that would have been a
00:07:59 ◼ ► problem for you uh potentially but uh you you you good picking yeah uh mine was apple introduces its
00:08:07 ◼ ► own large language model to power siri oh yeah um not only was this so wrong uh in a way that
00:08:15 ◼ ► now this is a round one pick right yeah so like this this talks about the context like everyone was
00:08:25 ◼ ► it now looks like they will have another company do it for them that's how that's how wrong this was
00:08:32 ◼ ► uh if there is a new one it won't be apples mad madness so no i did not get that correct uh a rare
00:08:39 ◼ ► round one incorrect pick uh there not looking good for me a rare sighting for for this show but it can
00:08:48 ◼ ► happen it can happen yeah yeah oh by the way you said ungraded doesn't have to ship in 2025
00:08:54 ◼ ► it shipped never yeah it won't it won't yeah they actually announced that it wasn't coming
00:09:01 ◼ ► in 2025 just a couple of months later i hedged my bets a little bit by introduces you did but they
00:09:09 ◼ ► didn't even do that so fascinating stuff yeah if if you if people don't remember you should go rewatch
00:09:15 ◼ ► the first like six minutes of wbc 25 because it's just it's just so interesting because apple very
00:09:22 ◼ ► rarely is like oh thing needs more time we will be back later but they do it sorry all right my round
00:09:29 ◼ ► one pick apple ships the apple watch ultra three correct correct you know i think sort of famously
00:09:37 ◼ ► now the two stuck around for a couple of rounds um but the three's here it's great i'm wearing one
00:09:42 ◼ ► really like it and uh you know i'm very curious to see now like will the three stick around another
00:09:48 ◼ ► year or is that just kind of a a weird thing that happened um there's not really a pattern yet with
00:09:54 ◼ ► the ultra but um i'm glad that i got updated my uh the battery on my ultra 2 is nowhere near as good
00:10:19 ◼ ► okay we're ready for round two round two round two i said a new air tag is introduced with better
00:10:29 ◼ ► tracking capabilities no and this is a wrong round two pick this one went down to the wire i think
00:10:36 ◼ ► like it felt like that we were always just around the corner from the new air tag and apple tv shipping
00:10:55 ◼ ► just like we saw with round one and mike can happen and it did happen we were sure at the
00:11:07 ◼ ► hmm it's probably apple intelligence and you know they got too much apple intelligence in the air tag
00:11:27 ◼ ► yeah yeah um did a little interjection have y'all seen any iphone airs in the wild in our time off
00:11:34 ◼ ► nope just mine once i've got a a cousin we were at christmas and he has the black iphone air which
00:11:43 ◼ ► looks pretty good i've only seen the black one in the store but he put it in like a it's not an
00:11:54 ◼ ► yeah it was disappointing yeah okay my round two pick the m1 map of gear is not for sale at the end
00:12:03 ◼ ► of 2025 um oh not true right now you can get it on walmart.com for 599 new oh boy restored for 400
00:12:14 ◼ ► which is an incredible price incredible this computer is this computer is never gonna go away
00:12:20 ◼ ► it's not and the it's just so interesting that it's i mean the whole thing's interesting right
00:12:24 ◼ ► selling at walmart selling at such a low price um but you know it's it's still like i've got a family
00:12:35 ◼ ► in it like my mom has one i was doing some stuff for her on it over the break and it's like it feels
00:12:41 ◼ ► older than it is because i think because of the design but super snappy like totally fine computer
00:12:47 ◼ ► my wife really doesn't want to get rid of hers it's like she writes for the verge um she loves the the
00:12:53 ◼ ► teardrop wedge shape uh and doesn't like the way the new laptops work uh look sorry so i don't know
00:12:59 ◼ ► what we're gonna do there but she's still using it and it works great for her needs so it's not it's
00:13:05 ◼ ► not in need of any change but sure it's gonna be interesting to see that whenever they do launch
00:13:10 ◼ ► this cheap macbook if this just continues to be sold or not because like it's supposed to replace it but
00:13:17 ◼ ► like if we're selling these for like 400 like i don't know what's gonna happen they get how
00:13:46 ◼ ► it was which it was and it was two of them two of them is a weird one one of them is a weird one
00:13:52 ◼ ► yeah m3 ultra ultra yeah and along with the m4 series of chips uh so we should just say at this
00:13:59 ◼ ► point because we've not done a score recap uh that puts me at two points and you each at one point
00:14:18 ◼ ► based on a new llm that will be multilingual and support multiple languages at the same time
00:14:25 ◼ ► support multiple modalities for example text input voice input or image attachments in the same conversation
00:14:30 ◼ ► and three display content from third party apps in line based on a new developer framework
00:14:35 ◼ ► all of this is wrong none of this came true i lose one point i believe you do you do i feel less bad
00:14:47 ◼ ► uh about my pick i can be swinging for for whatever this was supposed to be uh yeah i mean i still think this
00:14:56 ◼ ► should exist who knows when if ever made by who even we don't know anything this thing is not real
00:15:05 ◼ ► and look at look how look how innocent i was here picking this thing man i'm gonna read some context here that
00:15:15 ◼ ► rikis.net i think is the anyway if the overall pick is wrong about if the overall pick about a siri app is
00:15:23 ◼ ► wrong all the details will be counted wrong as well but that won't be a problem because federico thinks that
00:15:33 ◼ ► the problem is the problem is the problem is the company following the approach look it's they've just
00:15:40 ◼ ► got to do it um do it because there is the rumor that they do have they have built this app
00:15:46 ◼ ► internally yeah like the apple has an app like a chatbot app that they're using to kind of to test the
00:15:53 ◼ ► new llm or whatever is powering it but that this was a mark german report i think it was called veritas
00:16:00 ◼ ► or something like that yeah um and it uh but it he is unsure as to whether apple will actually release
00:16:07 ◼ ► a standalone app for siri which i think would be a shame like if if if it gets the capability of
00:16:13 ◼ ► something like a chat gpt a gemini where you can actually have like proper good conversations with
00:16:18 ◼ ► it yeah and it do things of content of like use for you and like consequence i think it would be
00:16:24 ◼ ► a shame if you would not be able to just read back through those conversations and you're at your kind
00:16:29 ◼ ► of desire yeah i mean i mean clearly that's how people are using these tools elsewhere right like
00:16:35 ◼ ► that's the form that all these tools have taken uh at least at the consumer level and i think it was uh
00:16:42 ◼ ► john janadrea who is is now retired or close to it uh from apple that he thought that was maybe the
00:16:53 ◼ ► at least for now like chat bots like that's the interaction that people want and it's the expectation
00:17:00 ◼ ► yeah yeah so i think i agree with you i do think siri has to become its own app you know you can still
00:17:05 ◼ ► interface with it through voice or through the side button or carplay or whatever but then you also have
00:17:12 ◼ ► the you know the transcript and and other things in the app very much like the um the amazon assistant
00:17:18 ◼ ► app has has similar features right you can ask your echo for something and then you you can see a log of
00:17:23 ◼ ► all of that in the app um you know make it multimodal in that way seems like a like an obvious move
00:17:30 ◼ ► replace image playgrounds with it dude for real i mean you can still if if apple still feels like they
00:17:38 ◼ ► should uh they can continue to have image generation right like and to you that doesn't need to have its
00:17:44 ◼ ► own application because i would assume maybe one person a day in the world uses image playgrounds i would
00:17:57 ◼ ► it can't be many it can't be many right do we think it's like more or less than 1000 people
00:18:05 ◼ ► oh that's a great question i mean there is a law of large numbers thing right which like if something
00:18:20 ◼ ► i'm gonna say it's less than 1000 people what i would say is i i struggle to imagine it but also
00:18:31 ◼ ► sure like if someone was like oh yeah yesterday was like 900 people then i'd be like yeah sure
00:18:38 ◼ ► uh my risky pick was apple introduces a new smart home product that features a screen it will be in
00:18:46 ◼ ► the home pod line of products it will feature eye or hand tracking as a way to control the interface
00:18:52 ◼ ► without needing to touch the screen and it will feature support for third-party apps to run on the
00:18:57 ◼ ► device like federico i am convinced this will be true and i will in the future benefit from a bonus
00:19:16 ◼ ► the lack of an updated siri right that this product depends on something in that world that that
00:19:24 ◼ ► they're not um they're not ready to to ship and i think it was on upgrade you said like what you want
00:19:31 ◼ ► from this is like show my pictures from my icloud photo library and let me control home kit stuff and
00:19:36 ◼ ► yep i couldn't agree more like you know uh we have i think you do too mike the um aurora frame
00:19:43 ◼ ► yeah or a frame or a frame like it's great like you know and the app's pretty good and you just
00:19:47 ◼ ► like have a share sheet and dump pictures into it but all my photos are in icloud photo library and
00:19:53 ◼ ► having that really well integrated would be really nice and obviously having all my home kit stuff like
00:20:05 ◼ ► i i hope that as well as learning the lesson of don't show things too early the air power lesson
00:20:16 ◼ ► yeah well i'm well yes i meant more of the apple intelligence lesson of like where that was clearly
00:20:23 ◼ ► just not working right when they didn't exist when what they showed just didn't exist at that point
00:20:28 ◼ ► um i hope that they have also learned uh don't tie new hardware to software that like don't don't
00:20:37 ◼ ► so tightly tie hardware to software in this way where like this is a thing that apparently is all done
00:20:43 ◼ ► except for the fact that it needs app intent stuff that is part of the apple intelligence stuff which at
00:20:49 ◼ ► this point i don't even know that's going to ship all spoilers maybe for later in the show so i don't
00:20:53 ◼ ► know what they're going to do with this thing and it's possible that maybe they've had to go back to
00:20:57 ◼ ► the drawing board a little bit of what the os is like and how that works and that might be why there's
00:21:02 ◼ ► another reason this thing is so delayed because like wild stuff i just it's wild to me that a product that
00:21:08 ◼ ► should replace something like an amazon echo show cannot ship because apple intelligence didn't ship it's
00:21:16 ◼ ► like we i think you just made a fundamental mistake in how this product was supposed to work if that was if
00:21:22 ◼ ► that's the reason like if that's true that's the reason like there are so many things that this
00:21:26 ◼ ► product should do and people would want it to do it's got nothing to do with apple intelligence
00:21:31 ◼ ► and so like wild just really wild stuff to me so you also lose a point at the end of that yeah so i
00:21:41 ◼ ► have one point now and federico has zero points yeah you have two points because you had your bonus
00:21:50 ◼ ► but i got my first pick wrong so i had two points total and then i wait so how many points do i have
00:21:55 ◼ ► now i have one point i have one point yeah because i lost a point oh yeah wrong i think there's a bug
00:22:01 ◼ ► a bug in rickies.co i don't think it's doing math correctly i have one point federico has zero points okay
00:22:07 ◼ ► yeah um here here i come with my risky pick apple replaces the it's in quotes plus phone with an all
00:22:24 ◼ ► that is correct it has no camera control and or action button that's wrong it does not offer an
00:22:34 ◼ ► always on display that's wrong now personally i'm very excited that those last two were wrong because
00:22:40 ◼ ► the iphone air gets all the good features um but i did get the first one correct but it is
00:22:46 ◼ ► just one that's correct so i break even here um leaving me with one point so i think mike and
00:22:54 ◼ ► i are tied yeah you know what that means peacock i've got it open i was ready for this moment
00:23:03 ◼ ► uh steven would you like to pick heads or tails or would you like me to pick heads or tails
00:23:07 ◼ ► why don't you pick all right i'm gonna say heads okay all right i accidentally stopped it here we
00:23:15 ◼ ► go let me try again ah yes yes oh god a whole year we have to listen to it yes i hate that i was so
00:23:28 ◼ ► excited about winning i was i was really excited to win today and that's not happening for me
00:23:43 ◼ ► annual chairman thank you how long has it been since you've been a winner event i'm actually let me see
00:23:56 ◼ ► wow and then it was me so i haven't won since 2022 did you win any keynotes during that time
00:24:09 ◼ ► oh no i won the flexis i won a bunch of flexis i won flexis september 25 dub dub 25 september
00:24:17 ◼ ► 2024 your your last win was wwc 24 yeah 20 wwc 2024 i won the keynote so we're ending the drought
00:24:31 ◼ ► but can you tie it all up can i win the flexis can you be benchman that's the important thing can you be
00:24:39 ◼ ► the benjamin yeah well i mean i'm gonna i'm gonna have to win um the next keynote but let's see if i
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00:26:25 ◼ ► so let's do this thing federico uh no i'm first i'm first no you're first mike's first what what is
00:26:33 ◼ ► happening do you not have to read the document i should read the rules yeah yeah yes man man it's been
00:26:42 ◼ ► too long usually and we still have to do a whole other game yeah i think how smooth that one will be you
00:26:49 ◼ ► you know usually we have another thing that happens between september and now it's been a long time
00:26:56 ◼ ► since we played this game it has been yes okay are we ready yes i'm stalling so i can open the tab okay
00:27:04 ◼ ► the flexis is a game held after each edition of the rickies it consists of a series of additional
00:27:13 ◼ ► picks in relation to the upcoming apple event or year scoring is completed separately from the main
00:27:19 ◼ ► game but like the rickies the order of picks is set by the results of the previous game and ties will
00:27:26 ◼ ► be broken using dice by p calc james really should just sponsor us at this point you know you thought
00:27:43 ◼ ► host must make a minimum of five flexi picks each correct pick is awarded with one point wrong picks
00:27:54 ◼ ► do not remove any points and no partial points may be awarded the winner is determined by comparing the
00:28:00 ◼ ► percentage of correct flexis made by each host the winner can use their chosen title as long as they are
00:28:07 ◼ ► the winner federico shall be named prince flexi and is known as king flexi when having won both the
00:28:14 ◼ ► keynote and annual games mike has chosen duke of flexington and uses the name archduke flexington
00:28:22 ◼ ► when applicable i if i win am the attorney general flexi and i use the title secretary of the flex when
00:28:31 ◼ ► necessary loser of the flexis must compensate the winner of the flexis by donating to a charity of
00:28:38 ◼ ► the winner's choice the amount of the donation is 25 dollars per wrong flexi made by the loser
00:28:45 ◼ ► and the money must be donated on air if someone holds all four titles they are allowed to choose
00:28:51 ◼ ► their own nickname just as a reminder mike won the last annual flexis so he gets uh he gets to go first and
00:29:01 ◼ ► you may be seated the duke of flexington i had six flexi picks in 2025 the first one was the old
00:29:14 ◼ ► double down home pod touch is the name of the smart device oh boy that's right the device that does not
00:29:20 ◼ ► exist uh pick number two the mac pro does not get updated this is one that i genuinely just happy didn't
00:29:30 ◼ ► happen because it's so fun for me i wish i could pick it again i think legally i cannot pick it again right
00:29:36 ◼ ► uh i think for a year yeah uh and you know what i will pick it again for the next one and it will
00:29:42 ◼ ► still be correct uh so in 2027 everybody can look forward to that uh no new vision hardware announced
00:29:50 ◼ ► it was it was uh airpods pro get hardware changes to support new health features they got heart rate
00:29:58 ◼ ► sensing yeah this one i was cooking on another person on the apple leadership page changes their
00:30:04 ◼ ► title in 2025 what i like is for for posterity's sake we took a screenshot of the uh the page we did
00:30:12 ◼ ► we did not need to do that because it's changed here's well here's the thing actually in looking at this
00:30:22 ◼ ► people changed but did anyone's title change well junji and andrea went from senior vice president to
00:30:29 ◼ ► retired but that means he's not on the pages anymore i think this says i mean you win it in spirit i'm
00:30:36 ◼ ► just wondering if you win it in the letter of the law is anyone on here that was here last year with a
00:30:42 ◼ ► different title yes sabir khan has gone from senior vice president of operations to chief operating
00:30:48 ◼ ► officer to say i got him he was trying to get me but i got him i got him okay i got him go go go mike
00:30:56 ◼ ► thank you and there will only like this there will only be three apple events in 2025 in fact there were
00:31:04 ◼ ► only two yeah so yeah i got three out of six no spring event and no october event um kind of a quiet
00:31:11 ◼ ► year for keynotes so that gives you three out of six or fifty percent how you feeling fantastic i think
00:31:25 ◼ ► that's a great result okay um i also picked five a second generation vision pro is rumored to feature
00:31:45 ◼ ► the mac pro is updated to an m4 system on a chip but is otherwise unchanged from the m2 model
00:31:55 ◼ ► no number three mac os 16 includes a controversial change so i have this one in yellow because i think
00:32:05 ◼ ► it obviously had a controversial change with liquid glass but it's not called mac os 16 i mean i wouldn't
00:32:12 ◼ ► need i mean that the mac os 16 parts like whatever i just don't think mac os 26 includes what we would
00:32:18 ◼ ► call controversial are you kidding me you know people are mad about liquid glass i mean yes but it's on
00:32:23 ◼ ► everything the icons i don't think that it is yeah but the icons that it's not controversial
00:32:28 ◼ ► they're not people just don't like what like no this is a point no this is yeah all right fair enough
00:32:34 ◼ ► take the point i just there are so many this isn't anything like tied to mac os specifically that's kind
00:32:41 ◼ ► of how i feel about it but i guess i think yeah take it okay thank you um ios 19 brings agreements with
00:32:50 ◼ ► new llm partners beyond open ai did i don't think they ever came to an agreement with anyone in china
00:33:00 ◼ ► right no no because i know that that was a thing that they were working on to have like new llm partners
00:33:10 ◼ ► outside of america but i'm not sure that they did so so as of november there were no apple intelligence
00:33:19 ◼ ► features in china okay um they had teamed up oh hang on hang on apple has teamed up with alibaba for
00:33:26 ◼ ► apple intelligence but the rollout feature was delayed in june due to all grading ongoing trade
00:33:31 ◼ ► issues so it seems like it is not shipped but it was announced when uh in february of 2025
00:33:43 ◼ ► brings is the problem here if i had said announced i think i'd get it but they had i don't think it's
00:33:50 ◼ ► shipped of course i mean i don't see anything that it says that it's shipped so let me see apple brings
00:33:55 ◼ ► agreements when you're hmm i don't even know what brings agreements means i feel like i've lost the
00:34:01 ◼ ► plot now brings agreements how do you bring it you don't want to leave them at home you gotta take them
00:34:06 ◼ ► where are you bringing it to yeah i was 19 brings agreements with new llm partners well but you said
00:34:14 ◼ ► it was announced in february so i was 19 did not bring it yeah i think i miss it but not but not by
00:34:19 ◼ ► much you were close like slightly different wording and you yeah you got this one right like if you
00:34:26 ◼ ► would have just said like 2025 brings agreements with new llm partners beyond open ai i would have
00:34:32 ◼ ► given it to you but i mean it's closer than home pod touch but i think it's still wrong it absolutely
00:34:36 ◼ ► is closer than it's also closer than uh a second generation vision i don't know what you mean
00:34:41 ◼ ► and the number five apple services see a price increase in the u.s apple tv went from 9.99 a month to
00:34:52 ◼ ► 12.99 a month so i think it's green i forgot about that i had to look it up um but yeah i did not
00:34:59 ◼ ► remember that happening when it's standalone right if it's part of apple one or whatever it's different
00:35:03 ◼ ► but standalone it's gotten more expensive yeah so um that gives me two out of five or 40 percent
00:35:10 ◼ ► okay so mike at 50 steven at 40 let's see oh i'm gonna do very badly i said number one the
00:35:19 ◼ ► new iphone se is called the iphone 16e yes congrats number two the the homepod mini is updated uh the
00:35:27 ◼ ► homepod mini is still a product in apple's lineup yeah not even new colors number three apple does
00:35:35 ◼ ► something with pixel meter beyond keeping it on the app store or updating its privacy policy
00:35:42 ◼ ► well i mean are we sure no i think they put apple intelligence stuff in it yes i think so like
00:35:49 ◼ ► image playgrounds i think they put hold on hold on i'm looking at the the the history in the app store
00:36:03 ◼ ► yeah um at the end of june okay pixel meter pro 3.7 adds support for apple intelligence
00:36:10 ◼ ► yeah okay so i think you get i mean none of those features matter but i think you get it
00:36:14 ◼ ► yeah i mean they've done something now if the something is horrible that's not my fault
00:36:27 ◼ ► but yes you do get it now number four is interesting apple showcases building shortcuts
00:36:38 ◼ ► who's like that green that didn't happen apple showcases building shortcut yeah that's not right
00:36:45 ◼ ► put that in green have we seen building shortcuts with natural language that doesn't exist it doesn't
00:36:52 ◼ ► exist right no no if somebody tried it they did something on their own that didn't happen
00:36:58 ◼ ► yeah this didn't happen why was it green who could tell maybe maybe we're just hopeful maybe someone
00:37:04 ◼ ► maybe maybe it was apple intelligence yes maybe uh number five more natural language apple music
00:37:11 ◼ ► gets a natural language playlist creation no man it's lots of natural language federico just wants
00:37:22 ◼ ► stuff the connector for apple music that doesn't hold on because kate is also saying in discord why
00:37:30 ◼ ► has rickies.co got it marked right too in green well apple showcases shortcut no this didn't happen
00:37:45 ◼ ► grading so i think kate has to look in the mirror about why that happened like for me it's marked
00:37:52 ◼ ► with a question mark in my browser interesting i mean it didn't happen though no like i don't know
00:38:01 ◼ ► what we're not we're not hallucinating this right it didn't happen i mean the chat gpt thing is like
00:38:06 ◼ ► outside of apple music so you can use other tools i was i was i was talking about shortcuts in
00:38:13 ◼ ► natural oh oh yeah i don't know it didn't happen no it didn't happen okay they haven't done that i
00:38:19 ◼ ► don't know why that's what anybody although apple music gets natural language playlist creation now that
00:38:25 ◼ ► you mentioned it doesn't it doesn't come on it doesn't don't even try it well because a third
00:38:32 ◼ ► part is doing it using the api i didn't well it's a it's a it's an official partnership this isn't what
00:38:38 ◼ ► you meant it's an official no no it doesn't matter because i didn't say the music app i said apple music
00:38:46 ◼ ► and it's an official partnership within apple and open ai i think it's good it's an official
00:38:54 ◼ ► partnership within apple and open ai this is undermining the sanctity we have undermined
00:39:00 ◼ ► no i'm i'm just today i'm just what i'm saying i'm just saying i said apple music i said apple music
00:39:07 ◼ ► not the music app so apple music as a apple music as a service no why i say no you can mark it if you
00:39:17 ◼ ► want to but i think that this is an undermining of the sanctity of the flexes why you meant apple
00:39:24 ◼ ► music what's the sanctity no the pig says yes you did yes you did you didn't hang on let me let me
00:39:31 ◼ ► read from uh i'm gonna read from mac rumor so this isn't even reporting by somebody who federico pays
00:39:36 ◼ ► apple music can be added to chat gpt through the settings section in the mac app website or ios app
00:39:42 ◼ ► apple music is listed under the apps option and connecting to it requires signing in with your
00:39:47 ◼ ► apple account for the authorization purposes yeah i mean chat gpt can be used to search through apple
00:39:53 ◼ ► music catal the apple music catalog for songs artists albums and playlists even without a subscription
00:39:59 ◼ ► open ai says that all users are able to discover music generate playlists and listen to preview
00:40:05 ◼ ► clips in chat gpt yeah here's i think the crux of it apple music subscribers can add songs albums and
00:40:12 ◼ ► playlists to their apple music library using chat gpt when apple music is added to chat gpt it can be
00:40:20 ◼ ► selected by tapping the plus button playlists and suggestions generated by chat gpt can be opened
00:40:26 ◼ ► directly in apple music yeah but chat gpt does not it can't like tap into your music listening history or
00:40:36 ◼ ► that sort of thing no um but it can absolutely create playlists with natural language i know because i've done
00:40:42 ◼ ► them i i have made them and you're signing with your apple music account my well my gut says it's green but
00:40:49 ◼ ► the lightest shade of green possible i don't know who's that who's the who's the adjudicator for this
00:40:55 ◼ ► thing um i think maybe we need to maybe we need somebody i wonder if jason's around this this for the you
00:41:04 ◼ ► you know what that for the flexes it's not worth it just give me and this is just not worth it
00:41:08 ◼ ► i don't think but here's the thing you can you can give yourself the point yeah i give myself the point
00:41:15 ◼ ► you did not mean this right i tell you what score it so it's done look i don't care honestly i don't
00:41:23 ◼ ► care the point is a point yes okay you you got the point now you didn't mean this did you i have no moral
00:41:29 ◼ ► compass whatsoever like i will now ask you you didn't mean this did you i'm not i'm not i'm not
00:41:35 ◼ ► so i'm not don't incriminate yourself i don't need to answer you the scoring is complete you you got the
00:41:43 ◼ ► point which means nothing can change that which means you win you're the winner yeah federico you
00:41:48 ◼ ► didn't mean this did you thank you yeah i didn't mean this yeah okay cool i'm just i just need it to
00:41:53 ◼ ► be heard but sometimes but sometimes this is what happens in life yes i know they got somebody else to
00:42:00 ◼ ► do it and i still get the point you get the point but you didn't mean it as i know i just need these
00:42:06 ◼ ► things to be known they're known what can i say i'm a lucky guy you know yeah yeah okay all right so um
00:42:15 ◼ ► the flexis end with federico winning with 60 percent man this did not go the way that i thought it was
00:42:23 ◼ ► gonna go like when i sat down today like i prepared a charity and everything wow i was convinced i had won
00:42:29 ◼ ► this yeah mike is at 50 percent three out of six and i am last two out of five with 40 percent so i
00:42:39 ◼ ► owe what is it 75 dollars to a charity of federico's choice choosing yes yes i wanna choose uh are you
00:42:52 ◼ ► you able to use an italian website steven can you i think so let's see we can see it's the
00:42:58 ◼ ► e-n-p-a it's in italian is ente nazionale protezione animali oh yeah that helps it's a national
00:43:04 ◼ ► organization for protecting animals and it's about protecting animals steven i like animals here you go
00:43:13 ◼ ► with a cute picture of a cat no i just i just really like the steven's reaction to you saying it in
00:43:19 ◼ ► italian is it well e-n-p-a-b-i-h.org uh you want to go here steven yes send me a link um you want to go
00:43:28 ◼ ► here look at that picture and yeah you know lots of animals okay if it if i if it can't if it won't
00:43:36 ◼ ► let me donate oh it's all in italian don't you have a translation yeah translate to english here we go
00:43:42 ◼ ► enable translation yeah okay donate now or donate in memory i could donate memory of you
00:43:48 ◼ ► no i'm not dead you donate memory of mike's pics yeah donate in memory of uh the duke of fleckington
00:43:56 ◼ ► because he doesn't exist anymore he is dead all right i'm gonna give give a cuddle give a piece of
00:44:03 ◼ ► freedom or give a cure give a piece of freedom i mean this is going through safari translation
00:44:10 ◼ ► do the cure do the cure yeah they just let them out for a little bit or what all right i don't know
00:44:16 ◼ ► i think it's just a cute thing i don't have a tax code or a civic number do you need one or a cap i
00:44:24 ◼ ► don't know we're gonna find out uh i'm doing a free donation of 75 this is definitely gonna lock my
00:44:31 ◼ ► credit card oh yeah there's a bunch of required fields here that i don't know so what if i send you
00:44:36 ◼ ► 75 and you donate yes okay do that wait we'll do that thank you okay well congratulations to uh
00:44:46 ◼ ► me and congratulations both of you i guess thank you yep yep look at me without i'm gonna have to i'm
00:44:52 ◼ ► gonna have to come back swinging poor poor mike i told them we're gonna ruin your mood today and we
00:45:01 ◼ ► all day i've been like uh well i know i've got the flexes tied up and i'm good at coin flips so i'm
00:45:09 ◼ ► gonna take everything this is just the eighth day of 2026 it's gonna be like this for the rest of the
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00:47:46 ◼ ► okay it is now time for 2026 oh my round one okay okay i get to go first because i just won
00:48:00 ◼ ► tim's tim's cook tim's cook it's a new job tim's personal chef tim cook's job title changes in 2026
00:48:22 ◼ ► we'll find out either way changes mm-hmm yeah okay okay okay easy enough yeah and uh next we have mike
00:48:41 ◼ ► any thoughts they will have an i mean i didn't ask for follow-up about tim cook because i don't think
00:48:49 ◼ ► steven has any particular feelings about tim cook do they have any particular feelings about a folding
00:48:53 ◼ ► phone i i don't know how i feel anymore in all honesty like i'm excited for something new is it the
00:49:03 ◼ ► size i mean it's the size thing i just don't know there's been lots of intrepid blogging uh yeah in
00:49:12 ◼ ► the last few days i'll put a link in the show notes to steven's blog which goes to jason's blog which
00:49:17 ◼ ► goes back to himself i think somehow yeah it's a it's around robin it really is around robin
00:49:23 ◼ ► thing between the bloggers okay is it very much this is one of those like secret cobalt kind of
00:49:28 ◼ ► kind of that's nepotism in the blog absolutely okay absolutely papa jason is giving his son steven
00:49:34 ◼ ► um i just don't know how to feel about a product that is so radically different in size like and and i
00:49:46 ◼ ► feel like i i have faith that they have are making something that they think is good right and like works
00:49:55 ◼ ► well but until i can use an iphone of those very peculiar dimensions it's hard to really um
00:50:04 ◼ ► make a judgment on it like steven obviously broke out many products uh it is essentially the height
00:50:13 ◼ ► of an original iphone and the width of a pro max like that is just yeah close really weird
00:50:21 ◼ ► iphone to use on the front screen and so yeah i just don't know yet i mean but i am interested
00:50:29 ◼ ► and excited about covering it and i guess in a way you know obviously i'm happy that i don't have
00:50:35 ◼ ► to buy it you know what i mean like it doesn't have to be my iphone there will still be a pro iphone
00:50:40 ◼ ► that i can just use and i'll be happy with that it's not like if if i was federico i would be a
00:50:46 ◼ ► little bit more concerned because it's possible it's you know you're not going to i find it unlikely
00:50:53 ◼ ► that the phone that you will get this year will be the iphone air 2 absolutely not i'm just getting
00:50:59 ◼ ► the folding phone i know especially my next phone yeah exactly especially because i mean it's expected
00:51:04 ◼ ► that that won't even come this year there actually won't be one yeah um and so yeah you know for me
00:51:09 ◼ ► it's like if i don't like that dimension as like my daily phone like the phone that i want to use
00:51:15 ◼ ► every day then they'll still be the pro phone out there for me but yeah i'm excited about it i think
00:51:20 ◼ ► we're in for a really fun final and like end of the year like i think it's going to be weird and even as
00:51:28 ◼ ► this year was this past year was really fun with the iphone lineup and i think 2026 is going to be
00:51:48 ◼ ► well thank you for the follow-up yes uh round one for me uh apple updates the macbook air with the m5
00:51:58 ◼ ► i think it's gonna happen yep we got it wait wait wait yeah they did didn't they what no they haven't
00:52:07 ◼ ► done that no what are you talking about oh it was the base macbook pro okay i'm sorry it was the base
00:52:12 ◼ ► macbook pro yeah he doesn't know max we know max me and federico hey hey hey hey hey that's
00:52:18 ◼ ► okay hey i'm a mac power user i actually doesn't know the max what if i told you that i'm using
00:52:24 ◼ ► three max right now three concurrently uh-huh uh-huh well you gotta listen to the next episode of
00:52:30 ◼ ► app stories to find out i i absolutely want to okay um yeah so the macbook air with the m5 we got it in
00:52:38 ◼ ► the ipod pro we got in the macbook pro base model and just give it to the macbook air now next you
00:52:45 ◼ ► know so should be should be a pretty safe round one pick yeah i think yeah yeah i i think we're all gonna
00:52:52 ◼ ► do well there well unless they just go straight to m6 can you imagine can you imagine like i actually
00:52:58 ◼ ► thought about that m6 okay yeah and the iphone flips and tim cook is still ceo the if the
00:53:07 ◼ ► no matter how i said a folding iphone right flipping is still folding oh man i just i flipped
00:53:15 ◼ ► the 3d printed model i made it's even worse oh yeah i mean it's terrible in that orientation
00:53:23 ◼ ► i don't real bad i don't love this thing but we'll see what happens well it doesn't turn on yet that
00:53:28 ◼ ► might make a difference that's true but i did do it in blue and bright pink which is fun which was fun
00:53:32 ◼ ► very fun very strange yeah uh you definitely didn't go for the colors that everybody else
00:53:53 ◼ ► 17e 17e 17e oh as we are recording i'm sorry i have to do this is breaking news oh no the new
00:54:05 ◼ ► york times has just published an article about apple succession plans the new york times i'm gonna
00:54:11 ◼ ► quote the times mr cook 65 has told senior leaders that he is tired and would like to reduce his
00:54:17 ◼ ► workload should he step down mr cook is likely to become the chairman of apple's board according to
00:54:22 ◼ ► three people close to the company mr cook is preparing several other internal candidates to be his
00:54:27 ◼ ► potential successor to other people said but the title the headline of the article is the man who could be
00:54:35 ◼ ► apple's next ceo john tennis oh whoa it's happening boss our boy john our boy john it's absolutely
00:54:43 ◼ ► happening now now now question for you guys when this happens we're gonna have a problem on our hands
00:54:54 ◼ ► okay with john turnus as apple ceo who's the one true john oh my gosh well ot i mean john
00:55:14 ◼ ► hot john why why does this illustration of the new york times have three vision pros in it that's
00:55:21 ◼ ► like all the vision why would it not that's all the units they sold why would it not let's just
00:55:27 ◼ ► put it there loads of them they're only talking in different directions you know it's one for each
00:55:34 ◼ ► candidate for ceo mr turnus was a quote man of the people yes he was still is we took a picture
00:55:42 ◼ ► with him well this is a big article to read yeah i have i lost oh wait 20 was it 2024 i don't know
00:55:48 ◼ ► know 2024 yeah i got a picture with both john turnus and tim cook so maybe you're the new if you
00:55:56 ◼ ► think about it i'm the glue you know the new york times should talk to me because like you're a match
00:56:02 ◼ ► maker you're a i met him yeah then a few months later i met turnus and then you know come on you can
00:56:08 ◼ ► spill the beans now what did you whisper in tim tim cook i said well to tim i said it's gotta be
00:56:13 ◼ ► john and then it's gonna be john it's gonna be you that's so you know i did it it's like who are
00:56:21 ◼ ► the people that choose the pope it's i'm that yeah i'm that you're you're the cardinal or something i'm
00:56:27 ◼ ► yeah yes if i was to have won any of these games today i would can i read this cardinal flexi
00:56:34 ◼ ► can i read this final quote because taken out of context from this article it's just incredible
00:56:52 ◼ ► i mean what more could you want i just keep the head and i saw he's a nice guy mr rogers
00:57:07 ◼ ► it's me and mr rogers you know he's someone you want to have with this is this is basically a
00:57:15 ◼ ► profile of john turnus it's happening boys oh what a year it's gonna be yeah oh here's the question
00:57:24 ◼ ► here's the question here's the question this is probably more of a question for jason but maybe i'll
00:57:28 ◼ ► just ask it here like emergency episode if it happens oh yeah i think so you know like i feel
00:57:38 ◼ ► like i feel like you gotta do that right yeah like if if it gets posted to apple's website like yeah
00:57:46 ◼ ► we should i don't know we should go live and and live stream the the the press release or something
00:57:51 ◼ ► yeah i feel like just on the phone like if i'm driving like i just pick up the phone you know like
00:57:57 ◼ ► it's gotta happen i feel like we need to have some like immediate live content that occurs at the
00:58:01 ◼ ► moment i i have this weird thing that i feel i think it's if when it's gonna happen it's gonna
00:58:07 ◼ ► happen on a wednesday don't ask me why but it's gonna happen on a wednesday great then adp will get
00:58:15 ◼ ► it before us well but not if we do an emergency episode that's true so that's why you gotta get there
00:58:21 ◼ ► you gotta be there it's true yeah this new york times article is hilarious uh you mentioned preparing
00:58:27 ◼ ► several other internal candidates uh craig federighi eddie q greg jazwiak didger o'brien like three
00:58:35 ◼ ► candidates yeah craig doesn't want it i don't think it's the right disposition jaws jaws is the marketing
00:58:43 ◼ ► guy i mean well maybe they said but this is they could i mean who's saying that right like is these
00:58:50 ◼ ► is this the sources or is that the new york times for people close to the company so i mean really this
00:58:55 ◼ ► isn't as specific as like the ft the ft was like no it's turnus right um but uh i mean if that is if
00:59:04 ◼ ► those are the people then they that's token in my perspective from my yeah like because i just don't
00:59:11 ◼ ► think it's any of them because we've not heard their names mentioned at all in any reporting about
00:59:18 ◼ ► this as like see potential seeming yeah who knows it just seems like they asked somebody who like i
00:59:24 ◼ ► don't know tweets about apple like oh there's other people right there yeah yeah turnus is it i think
00:59:29 ◼ ► that's pretty clear um you know and it's uh it's a good run he's only 50 which apparently is the age cook
00:59:35 ◼ ► cook was when he took over okay um well that's very exciting for my round one pick yeah i'll say uh we
00:59:45 ◼ ► are now in round two and uh i said the 17e ships in 26 yep which means mike you're next a google llm is
00:59:53 ◼ ► powering some siri features by default interesting so this hinges on the idea that apple is gonna say this
01:00:01 ◼ ► is powered by google i think we'll know like i think that we will it will be clear like one way or
01:00:10 ◼ ► another like you know and the and i changed my pick to not say gemini for this reason right because
01:00:19 ◼ ► gemini is a brand and if they're not doing like a big coming out on stage together thing they might not
01:00:39 ◼ ► yeah i think i think if that comes true i think one of the companies will just i mean i don't think
01:00:45 ◼ ► they'll be on stage but i think one of the companies will announce it right like why would they
01:00:48 ◼ ► why would they not i guess google would you know what i mean like someone's gonna i i believe it will
01:00:56 ◼ ► either be said or it will be in a document somewhere a privacy policy something right um but i i i
01:01:04 ◼ ► hesitated from saying gemini in case they in case it's branded differently but i think i think i think
01:01:13 ◼ ► we'll know and i think we'll know in a way that we can point to something yeah that's what i'm betting on
01:01:18 ◼ ► i'm just trying to combine gemini and siri in my head to one word geminiri gemini simonai
01:01:27 ◼ ► where are we i lost track of everything you're in your round two pick i forgot we were doing
01:01:44 ◼ ► this i'm just thinking yeah i'm just thinking about john turnus now um yeah i mean aren't we all all the
01:01:51 ◼ ► the time really especially mike uh round two um apple ships some of the ai features previously seen
01:02:01 ◼ ► at wwdc 2024 so this i said some because this will make more sense later but i think at least some of
01:02:12 ◼ ► them will be shipped this year maybe not all of them but some of them will some of them i think so
01:02:26 ◼ ► i mean yeah the coming year right you know yeah it is the year has come in fact and so yeah
01:02:42 ◼ ► apps or something come on come on there's gotta be something i just want to know when my mom's flight
01:02:49 ◼ ► lands how would you know otherwise how would i know otherwise she's still at the airport
01:02:58 ◼ ► okay i think we move on to our risky picks are we ready no we do not is there a bonus pick there is a
01:03:08 ◼ ► bonus pick oh it's federico's in it oh i forgot i had one you need to come up with a pick while i
01:03:15 ◼ ► explain what happens yeah yeah yeah okay in 2022 federico said at least one airpods model will support
01:03:25 ◼ ► lossless music playback by the end of 2022 hang on a minute hang on a minute that didn't come true
01:03:33 ◼ ► yeah let's forget the end of 2022 part just forget that part um so in 2023 the airpods pro with usbc
01:03:43 ◼ ► which is which when connected to airpods pro allows for lossless audio playback and you can listen to
01:03:53 ◼ ► lossless music with it so now to confirm this is it too far back to get a bonus the rules are the last
01:04:01 ◼ ► last three games right last three okay last and you wouldn't include 2025 in that because we just
01:04:09 ◼ ► graded that so you couldn't get a bonus pick for something we've literally just done right so you
01:04:16 ◼ ► wouldn't for this it wouldn't make any sense we just scored it so you can't get a bonus pick for
01:04:22 ◼ ► for something we just did because there is no world in which it could have come true in between like the
01:04:36 ◼ ► the last three i think we have identified a rules problem because you could not get a bonus pick
01:04:47 ◼ ► because a bonus pick is when something that has been previously predicted has come true right that
01:04:53 ◼ ► that was originally wrong right so something we said something it was graded as incorrect and then since
01:05:01 ◼ ► has come true we wouldn't include 2025 in that because we just graded those so how could you get a bonus
01:05:07 ◼ ► pick we just did it right so it should be 22 23 24 what's i mean hmm basically what we're looking
01:05:18 ◼ ► for here is are we going to take this logically or literally and i think we should take it logically
01:05:24 ◼ ► okay okay right i don't know yeah that's fine because there is no way it's like pointless right
01:05:34 ◼ ► the rule shouldn't say the last three games or whatever it should be like the last three not
01:05:42 ◼ ► including it should 2025 shouldn't be counted in that because you wouldn't it wouldn't work would it
01:05:51 ◼ ► x years or something yes i think the games is the problem there so i think for now he gets a bonus
01:05:58 ◼ ► pick and maybe we need to revisit that next time i think yes make a note on it okay i will make
01:06:04 ◼ ► i don't know when next time we'll be like what next year well no we could do it we could do it you
01:06:10 ◼ ► know wbc or the next march or whatever um okay um well thank you uh and actually so what the text
01:06:19 ◼ ► actually says is from the last three corresponding games so it has to be an annual yeah and it is from
01:06:26 ◼ ► that yeah okay so maybe we will work on clarifying that but do you get my point i do i do like the
01:06:34 ◼ ► 2025 one is pointless because you can't claim a bonus pick for something because there's no time in which
01:06:42 ◼ ► it could have come true i mean less than the last like five minutes but then we would have just scored
01:06:46 ◼ ► like if during the episode right if like i feel like if during the episode news oh i guess i guess
01:06:56 ◼ ► technically it could happen in the first week right yeah but i just don't i don't think that makes any
01:07:04 ◼ ► sense so to me i think it makes sense that federico would get this pick okay i made a note we'll debate
01:07:09 ◼ ► that in the future but i think it for now he gets it yeah do you have a bonus pick yes i do now wow and
01:07:18 ◼ ► that would be the macbook pro is refreshed with the new chip love it you gotta go easy man you get a bonus
01:07:25 ◼ ► pick don't get a bonus pick wrong it's like the worst possible thing you could do yep so but i mean it
01:07:44 ◼ ► point one it is an update to an existing notebook so ungraded context here because we debated this
01:07:55 ◼ ► internally um it is not a new macbook touch it's an update to a mac we already know technically
01:08:09 ◼ ► you're but that's what you're saying you don't think they're going to put this on the macbook air
01:08:13 ◼ ► do you i mean i think they should but you know no but then not going to the first time like none of
01:08:18 ◼ ► the rumors suggest it like it's going to be a macbook pro like that's essentially what you're saying
01:08:22 ◼ ► without being too prescriptive yes point two mac os does not radically change to accommodate touch
01:08:32 ◼ ► now i asked you for a bit of context on this one yes um and that context i think we agreed on
01:08:37 ◼ ► was this could be that it ships before mac os 27 or that there's no ui change made just for this
01:08:46 ◼ ► machine yeah and i and i think that that is actually how we need to score this because i think
01:08:52 ◼ ► you know it it could be argued like let's say that 26 shipped at the same year like people will be
01:08:58 ◼ ► like oh touch targets got bigger but it's like well no they just redesigned the operating system
01:09:02 ◼ ► like i think it's like specific ui that runs on the touch model is right what we're looking for
01:09:10 ◼ ► yeah right yeah yeah yeah it's not like there's a weird fork a mac os just for this thing right yeah
01:09:17 ◼ ► number three the product comes with the apple polishing cloth in the box it is only now that
01:09:26 ◼ ► i have realized why this is in the pic i've read this a bunch of times oh because you touch it
01:09:33 ◼ ► because you touch it so they want you to clean it um yes and you send us uh an apple intelligence
01:09:38 ◼ ► summarize notification can you read that to the class message from steven hackett apple announces
01:09:43 ◼ ► touch screen mac notebook update it includes polishing cloth so i thought it happened i was
01:09:49 ◼ ► like wow it's happened they've done it earlier than i thought they did it you know apple used to want
01:09:54 ◼ ► to show up ces that would do it yep oh my gosh those are the days yeah um yeah federico do you have
01:10:02 ◼ ► apple intelligence uh notification summaries on uh i still have them on because i haven't bothered to
01:10:08 ◼ ► disable them um i probably should yeah that's off for me everywhere i keep them on i like them
01:10:15 ◼ ► okay mike mike mike mike mike you're up by the end of the year apple will not have shipped equivalent
01:10:25 ◼ ► features for all of the apple intelligence features shown off at wwdc 2024 okay so we need to be i think we
01:10:32 ◼ ► need to be specific here federico has said they will ship some but you are saying they will not have
01:10:38 ◼ ► shipped all so you're saying the same thing yeah you're risky as his regular pick yeah sure i mean
01:10:46 ◼ ► there's nothing saying you can't do that and we agreed it was risky so that part is not the part that i'm
01:10:51 ◼ ► getting scored on anyway oh yeah no no yeah your your your details are amazing this is just the
01:10:58 ◼ ► context for the details and the details are craig federighi will talk at least once more about there
01:11:04 ◼ ► being quote two architectures so they will bring that line back out again in telling the history of
01:11:11 ◼ ► why this did not work apple will once again promise that the missing features will be shipping by the end of
01:11:26 ◼ ► so i think this is the winner for me because i've been listening to a man called federico batichi
01:11:43 ◼ ► and that instead they will move to mcp but it's going to take them longer to get that done because
01:11:49 ◼ ► i believe that apple will have hopefully woken up and realized no one's going to implement this
01:11:57 ◼ ► like google or whatever right i'm not going to be like sure we'll make app intense so nobody needs
01:12:05 ◼ ► to use google docs anymore no they're not going to do this yeah they need to go into an an open
01:12:11 ◼ ► standard that everybody else could potentially use that there is more incentivization for people to
01:12:18 ◼ ► use and use that as a way to make this work that's what i and i think that is going to be
01:12:24 ◼ ► the linchpin that gets me at least one of these things to be correct but i think two of them
01:12:30 ◼ ► that's where i'm coming from on this one okay yeah i hate that you're listening to me but
01:12:43 ◼ ► we'll see please unsubscribe from app stories is what he's saying and and connected yeah good
01:12:49 ◼ ► pick good pick are you ready for an even better pick mm-hmm okay so my risky pick is apple ships a
01:13:08 ◼ ► number two runs both ios and ipad os apps and seamlessly switches between them and number three
01:13:18 ◼ ► has at least one feature that operates both the outer screen and the inner screen at the same time
01:13:34 ◼ ► but want all of it does that make sense uh okay uh so the name obviously first of all i should say
01:13:42 ◼ ► i wanted to have some fun with this pick um now they could call it iphone fold right i don't think
01:13:48 ◼ ► it's a i don't think fold is a particularly great name especially when you don't speak english uh fold only
01:13:58 ◼ ► makes sense in english right um and so that was my first thought like it doesn't immediately convey
01:14:05 ◼ ► what it is air i mean you can make it the same argument for other products but i'm just saying that
01:14:11 ◼ ► especially when it comes to apple stuff fold is a new english word that doesn't necessarily translate
01:14:18 ◼ ► well to other languages but you know maybe people know the samsung z fold or the google pixel fold
01:14:23 ◼ ► um so maybe maybe i'm mistaken i've been thinking that like for since i read this pick of yours i have
01:14:31 ◼ ► now come around to the fact that i don't think i don't i don't know if i call it duo but i don't think
01:14:35 ◼ ► no call it fault yeah so my idea is that so in thinking about this pick i tried to sort of go to the very
01:14:43 ◼ ► core of my idea of why apple is doing this so if if apple is doing this how would you think about it
01:14:52 ◼ ► like what's the whole thing about it obviously it's one device that transforms into another device so it's
01:14:58 ◼ ► two things in one right it's you got the screen on the outside and you got the bigger screen inside
01:15:03 ◼ ► um only apple of all tech companies has both a phone ecosystem and a tablet ecosystem they're the
01:15:16 ◼ ► only company right now that i mean sure we can talk about android tablets android tablets don't really
01:15:21 ◼ ► exist um it's like a collective hallucination that android tablets exist um only apple has this kind
01:15:29 ◼ ► of ecosystem and they can ship two things in one and so obviously when i started thinking about like
01:15:35 ◼ ► two things you know number two dual it's right there apple also has a history of calling things
01:15:42 ◼ ► dual and we know that apple loves to reuse their adjectives over the years uh steven obviously if i'm not
01:15:50 ◼ ► mistaken the powerbook duo yep was a thing i've wrote about it on your website the yeah yeah uh the
01:15:59 ◼ ► there was a mac mini core duo model and just a few that was intel right that was intel and just a few
01:16:07 ◼ ► years ago we got the magsafe duo charger oh my gosh yes which was good poll i've come around to this now
01:16:17 ◼ ► was also a thing that you folded open in fact and it was called duo um and so the whole idea of like
01:16:24 ◼ ► you get a phone on the outside but then you open it up and it's another thing so two things in one
01:16:30 ◼ ► that's why i picked the name and also you want apple to stand out you know they call the they didn't call
01:16:37 ◼ ► it the iphone 17 edge or iphone 17 slim they called it iphone air and it's you know successful or not they
01:16:46 ◼ ► like to stand out from what everybody else is doing so that was my thinking number two runs both ios and
01:16:53 ◼ ► ipad os apps and seamlessly switches between them uh my thinking here is that so imagine your apple and
01:17:02 ◼ ► you're launching this product right and obviously on the outside it's a phone so it's right it runs ios and
01:17:07 ◼ ► i think it's going to run ios i don't think it's going to run ipad os as an operating system i don't think
01:17:12 ◼ ► you're going to have stage manager on this thing right i think maybe you're going to have split
01:17:17 ◼ ► view maybe you're going to have slide over i don't think you will have ipad os 27 running on this okay
01:17:23 ◼ ► i think you're going to have ios but what happens when you open it up do you just get a giant iphone app
01:17:30 ◼ ► what i think apple should do here is once again they should leverage the fact that only they have an
01:17:37 ◼ ► an ecosystem of apple of developers making universal apps the same app can be both an ios app with a phone
01:17:46 ◼ ► layout and it can be a tablet app with an ipad layout and i think it would only be natural for this product
01:17:54 ◼ ► to have say to do is in ios layout on the outside but then when you open it up it's got the ipad version
01:18:02 ◼ ► of to do is um so that's what i'm thinking right seamlessly i hope that's the case like i really do i
01:18:09 ◼ ► don't know how i don't i hope so like would it run ipad os and ios simultaneously or is it all just ios
01:18:19 ◼ ► i mean i think at the level that would be required for that that's not a that's the you know the same
01:18:26 ◼ ► thing um and with universal apps right it's even just one app bundle that can do both yeah yeah yeah
01:18:35 ◼ ► with universal apps you just have the one app bundle and you know i mean it's apple so they can do
01:18:40 ◼ ► whatever they want because they control the whole thing yeah so if they want to have if they want to
01:18:44 ◼ ► install two bundles instead of what traditionally now when you go to the app store you have the
01:18:50 ◼ ► universal app and it's got how many iphone ipad mac apple tv watch vision pro it's at six platforms
01:18:58 ◼ ► right and it just installs one on the device that you're using now on this product you can install two
01:19:05 ◼ ► that's again duo um and finally number three uh has at least one feature that operates both the outer
01:19:12 ◼ ► screen and the inner screen at the same time now let me clarify this i wanted to have some fun with this
01:19:16 ◼ ► one so um traditionally when you use a folding phone uh you either use the outer display or you fold it
01:19:25 ◼ ► open and you use the inner display there are uh some exceptions but most of the time you don't use
01:19:32 ◼ ► two screens at the same time now knowing apple and the fact that they like to flex the fact that they have
01:19:40 ◼ ► a really powerful uh silicon architecture i think they will come up with some silly way to use both
01:19:47 ◼ ► displays at the same time and i was thinking of um sort of like local multiplayer of sorts uh first i had a
01:19:58 ◼ ► gaming angle like imagine you fold this thing open and you can you know you're with a friend and you
01:20:04 ◼ ► can play a local game and the friend sees a part of the game on the outside display and you see
01:20:11 ◼ ► something else on the inner display so like local multiplayer like that when you can play a game with
01:20:16 ◼ ► somebody else and they control something on the outer display you control something else on the inner
01:20:22 ◼ ► display uh but my other idea was again knowing apple they like to come up with these silly things for the
01:20:29 ◼ ► camera i was thinking of something like duo selfies when you're again with somebody else they take a
01:20:37 ◼ ► selfie using the the the other display you take another selfie and then you merge them together or something
01:20:44 ◼ ► i don't know why you would do it maybe to get to different perspectives so like you can shoot a video
01:20:49 ◼ ► now with your face and also the the video itself uh and you can have a picture in picture thing going on
01:20:56 ◼ ► i'm kind of thinking of something like that like a camera mode that lets you take pictures that way
01:21:02 ◼ ► so yeah that's my pick question frame i don't think this would be the case which is the question
01:21:09 ◼ ► i think it's definitely called iphone something yeah i think it's gonna call be called iphone
01:21:16 ◼ ► yeah in the sense that it'll be a phone with a with support for a sim card and making phone calls
01:21:33 ◼ ► if it is like this combo iphone ipad thing but yeah you're right is it it has too much iphone-y
01:21:43 ◼ ► stuff to not be called iphone yeah yeah yeah i hope you're right i do i do i get your thinking on the
01:21:53 ◼ ► name um i like iphone ultra still it's a name that exists in their world but you make a pretty good case
01:21:59 ◼ ► for duo pretty good case what about extreme extreme iphone extreme no i like i i think i think it has i
01:22:10 ◼ ► i'm on the thinking that it would be a name that would somehow indicate what the device is well i
01:22:17 ◼ ► don't know if ultra does that you know what i mean although i do think that that is a name they should
01:22:22 ◼ ► use at some point but like it indicating that this is the phone that has two different screens on it is
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01:24:19 ◼ ► there's now time for the flexis okay all right so my number one john turnus is apple's new ceo
01:24:28 ◼ ► that was already in there before the new york times article well he isn't the ceo he isn't it's fine
01:24:35 ◼ ► number two by the end of 2026 there is still no magic keyboard that supports multi-device pairing
01:24:44 ◼ ► i just think apple is gonna make you buy magic keyboards and magic keyboards forever they're
01:24:48 ◼ ► never gonna support multi-device pairing and if they do i'll be happy but i will lose a point
01:24:56 ◼ ► yeah bold for 2026 i think yeah yeah maybe we'll see number four apple holds another media event
01:25:07 ◼ ► slash gathering in at battersea in london it's been a couple of years they should do another
01:25:15 ◼ ► they do lots of gatherings well me okay so what's a good way to phrase it uh a media event like the
01:25:22 ◼ ► last time media media media media event is because they they do do a lot of events there yeah like
01:25:26 ◼ ► they're not what you're thinking about with invitations yeah yeah number five apple announces
01:25:33 ◼ ► some kind of mcp integration for ios apps what a great flexi federico yeah i know right so good
01:25:47 ◼ ► really going all in now just really going all in the most federico flexi we've had in a long time
01:25:55 ◼ ► yeah man can you imagine oh i'll be yeah that'll be historic that'll be historic moment isn't the
01:26:01 ◼ ► phone kind of its own kickstand well no what if you open it fully a lots of people uh lots of people
01:26:07 ◼ ► buy these cases uh that have little kickstands to prop up especially uh when it's folded open
01:26:12 ◼ ► it's a small tablet and so if you want to keep it when you're you know in the kitchen when you're cooking
01:26:16 ◼ ► or something uh it doesn't yeah watching a video i do it all the time with my pixel fold
01:26:21 ◼ ► but you got to have a case that has a kickstand hmm or a pop socket yes all right there are your flexis
01:26:29 ◼ ► six six for now okay here are mine apple does not ship the base model iphone 18 by the end of the year
01:27:16 ◼ ► i checked the rules there's nothing in the flexi rules about reusing picks so i'm using it again the
01:28:25 ◼ ► you can give your icloud to someone remember that legacy contact yeah yeah that's a good
01:28:48 ◼ ► like it's like hey we're all happy we're all happy do you want to know what happens when you die
01:28:53 ◼ ► to your phone totally weird but a good feature to have i set it up yeah me too mine is john
01:29:00 ◼ ► otj is my legacy contact really wow interesting yeah yeah yeah i think mary and then my brother
01:29:08 ◼ ► are mine no i'm all in on otj he's the only one he's my only one he's he's a little older than us
01:29:14 ◼ ► yeah but he's more trustworthy yeah that's true number six the foldable is called the iphone
01:29:45 ◼ ► i'm gonna go for an eighth okay these always go well when we grade them by the way no no new car
01:29:55 ◼ ► companies announce carplay ultra oh man that's good none there'll be no more no it's done yeah it's
01:30:29 ◼ ► hmm and obviously i need a screenshot of that page again for posterity feels less likely this time
01:30:35 ◼ ► to me i think i think there's one more i think that i think there's one more to shake out of the tree
01:30:40 ◼ ► yeah obviously well the screenshot is not great for this because there's already people on that
01:30:48 ◼ ► page that want that we know won't be there i will mark them out with red x's how about that
01:30:59 ◼ ► so who out of here is not lisa jackson won't be here yes that feels bad i like lisa jackson
01:31:06 ◼ ► um i'm going to the page see if i can use my memories okay so so i think that katherine
01:31:17 ◼ ► adams won't be there by then that is correct i don't remember when it is it might be by the end of
01:31:23 ◼ ► the year but maybe by the time that we mark this yeah no it definitely will be johnny saruji because
01:31:31 ◼ ► you know he's not leaving anytime soon remember that whatever that means anytime soon yeah but i think i
01:31:39 ◼ ► think you know maybe jaws maybe phil maybe phil just finally leaves the page maybe maybe tour who
01:31:58 ◼ ► vice president of marketing communications yeah and you're making a joke about his name yes
01:32:10 ◼ ► uh i think luca could could step out the door the rest of the way yes very possible um but yes
01:32:17 ◼ ► i will put those in the document well we may actually know the answer to that so i'm going to
01:32:22 ◼ ► find that that piece of information out oh yeah if we know that then i think i have to take this off
01:32:26 ◼ ► because maybe i subconsciously knew it or no no he would just get a red x like the others yeah
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