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0:00:39subepisode t Comic Con 2015 welcome back
0:00:46everybody to the incomparable it's our
0:00:48summer superhero spectacular in our
0:00:50previous episode we took 16 contestants
0:00:53put them in the ring and are cruel panel
0:00:55of judges reduce that number 28 that was
0:00:58the central city region now we're going
0:01:00to do it again in the Gotham region we
0:01:01have 16 heroes who will enter eight will
0:01:03leave Steve lutz and Phillip Michaels
0:01:05will make all of the cruel decisions
0:01:08we're going to start off with the
0:01:09top-ranked Batman in the Gotham region
0:01:13who else could it be but Batman he is
0:01:15going to go up against a huge underdog
0:01:18Starman so Tony sindelar will be
0:01:21defending Batman but let's start with
0:01:22chips others who is going to tell us
0:01:24about our underdog Starman I don't
0:01:28understand why would be an underdog in
0:01:30this situation situation I just don't
0:01:32and for the record I am NOT referring to
0:01:34the really really well-written really
0:01:37really popular a jack night
0:01:41Starman character of the no no I'm
0:01:44talking about will peyton dude i'm
0:01:46talking about a character that was
0:01:49created in the late eighties for DC by
0:01:51Roger stern and he is one of the
0:01:53greatest heroes of all time because it's
0:01:55not just that he's almost as strong as
0:01:57Superman that he flies almost as fast as
0:02:01Superman he has heat powers almost as
0:02:04hot as Superman he's almost as
0:02:07invulnerable as Superman and he can
0:02:09change his appearance well better than
0:02:11Superman
0:02:12will peyton Starman one of my favorite
0:02:14characters of all time has this as his
0:02:16character motivation ready for this
0:02:18he just wants to help people that's it
0:02:21will peyton Starman the nicest guy in
0:02:25the DC Universe boom right and ended
0:02:29with a boom again i love jeff bridges by
0:02:30the way temperatures is great i'm from
0:02:32the light and touché
0:02:33i'm here to help Tony talking about
0:02:36Batman alright well my notes say he's
0:02:39Batman haha so hopefully you're all
0:02:42familiar with him and you know apologies
0:02:44to the the gentleman from Gallifrey but
0:02:47Batman is in my mind the greatest
0:02:50superhero of all time
0:02:51he's one of the three in the the DC
0:02:54Trinity and you know he's been around
0:02:57forever he has had many many media
0:02:59adaptation some of them amazing like the
0:03:02batman animated series and some of them
0:03:04I not as amazing we don't need to dwell
0:03:07on those up but but he is defined a lot
0:03:10of what other heroes are you know crib
0:03:12from generously the utility belt the
0:03:15billionaire who is also an amazing
0:03:18scientist and inventor he has one of the
0:03:21greatest ropes calories and in all of
0:03:23comics he has probably the coolest ride
0:03:26of any superhero sorry ghost writer and
0:03:30he's in conclusion he's Batman quiet
0:03:33question for the Advocate yes please
0:03:36square on your advocacy of Batman with
0:03:40the campaign nineteen sixties version of
0:03:42Batman I was not alive then I take no
0:03:45responsibility
0:03:46alright how about the george clooney
0:03:48version of batman i love that man deeply
0:03:51I'm not seen that movie i have watched
0:03:54the batman animated series five more
0:03:56times instead how's that
0:03:57all right judges
0:04:00yeah Starman I seems like a lot of his
0:04:05identity is made of the fact that he's
0:04:06almost as good as Superman I'm afraid
0:04:09however he's not quite as good as Batman
0:04:11Batman it is for me Phil I am moved by
0:04:15not not Tony's argument favors
0:04:20chips number-one nickname not Tony
0:04:23however as my as my judicial colleague
0:04:30the judge nuts as determined it is not
0:04:34nearly enough to be almost as good as
0:04:38someone else you must be good on your
0:04:40own terms
0:04:42I'm disappointed by by the denunciation
0:04:47of nineteen sixties Batman who some of
0:04:49us hold in high esteem old chump with
0:04:55the william shatner joins them out of
0:04:57the shot and I rule in favor of Batman
0:05:04Batman now Batman Forever alright weeks
0:05:06if not been found not Batman around it's
0:05:08not a good old I have nothing but
0:05:10contempt for this court that's good and
0:05:13Robert that is the goal we are moving on
0:05:15to and a tight match up an 80 vs 9 seed
0:05:19it is also I i should say for basketball
0:05:22fans out there the only the only thing
0:05:25that appears in both this year's NCAA
0:05:27tournament bracket and the superhero
0:05:30bracket it is a that would that would be
0:05:32Savior I it in this case Professor
0:05:36Charles Xavier going up against the
0:05:38Black Widow and he's going to advocate
0:05:40for the Black Widow and Lisa for
0:05:42Professor X Lisa you may go first as you
0:05:44are the 9 seed and therefore the
0:05:45underdog Professor X is one of the most
0:05:48thankless jobs and marvel comics which
0:05:50is that he has to bear the moral
0:05:52responsibility of being an idealist
0:05:57while also acting pragmatically with
0:06:00with grid with a great deal of
0:06:01pragmatism he is almost the Barack Obama
0:06:04of mutants in that he's always
0:06:06disappointing someone somewhere by
0:06:08advocating a call uh a reason measured
0:06:11course of action taking his progress in
0:06:14increments and keeping his eyes on a
0:06:15goal that sometimes other people have
0:06:17difficulty seeing he is however mostly
0:06:20tireless occasionally canny and
0:06:23relentlessly focused on his one goal
0:06:25which is to make sure that nobody uses
0:06:27their powers or their human and or mute
0:06:30nature to unfairly victimize others he's
0:06:34for a more
0:06:34just more perfect world and he's
0:06:36forgetting their using more just and
0:06:38more perfect methods
0:06:39alright Andy please indicate for the
0:06:42black without my opening statement is
0:06:45that the Apple watch makes a crappy
0:06:46crappy stopwatch as I proved in the
0:06:49first my first statement and so
0:06:50therefore i'm switching to the iphone as
0:06:52my timing device Thank You Cort back
0:06:55black widow is awesome because she's one
0:06:58problem a few characters where
0:06:59comic-book continuity actually makes her
0:07:02cooler and not less interesting because
0:07:05she's had so many origins and so many
0:07:07things that contradict themselves
0:07:09it works perfectly because she's a spy
0:07:12she sometimes a spine the guys with
0:07:14superhero she's an Avenger but she's
0:07:16still a spy
0:07:17she is one of these people who get stuff
0:07:20done that gets the dirty work done it
0:07:22doesn't have a big problem with at least
0:07:23doesn't let it interfere with the
0:07:25mission her proper role is not flying
0:07:28around on a super jet bike fighting
0:07:30alongside Thor while she's firing a
0:07:32handgun her role is to be the anonymous
0:07:35person who is responsible for a death
0:07:36that got reported on page 5 of the
0:07:39newspaper given no notice by anybody but
0:07:41in doing so she toppled the government
0:07:4310,000 miles away and not necessarily a
0:07:46bad government those doing bad things
0:07:48either just a government whose interests
0:07:50were getting in the way of those are the
0:07:52government that she's working for
0:07:54so you have to trust that she's lying
0:07:56and cheating and killing and
0:07:57manipulating on the side of the angels
0:07:59but you can never ever be sure and
0:08:01that's why she's a fantastic cool
0:08:02character also finally she is just
0:08:05capable as hell and we don't see a lot
0:08:08of that in superheroes but is she
0:08:10handi-capable if that's the only way
0:08:14she's gonna get into the embassy she
0:08:16will shoot herself and whatever needs to
0:08:18be shot out to get the appropriate
0:08:19parking flat past yes interesting day
0:08:22for your thoughts
0:08:23hmm well i know i'm i'm definitely
0:08:26leaning a terminator x I think his work
0:08:28with the with Public Enemy really i
0:08:30think push trap to new levels i think
0:08:33fear of a black planet is is probably
0:08:35one of the quintessential focus on the
0:08:38letter R way I this is this is what
0:08:40justice there 93 or 94 their senile as
0:08:44hell they don't know
0:08:45is being argued against do did I did I
0:08:47started like it was right on my cot I'm
0:08:49sorry thinking of the basketball team
0:08:51from Xavier what were we talking about
0:08:54now i don't know i'm paying attention
0:08:57o.i I'm lost I believe you're right to
0:09:00decide favorite black widows the know
0:09:03you're safer for me
0:09:04just sign right here your honor but
0:09:05you're on it open but getting down low
0:09:07for the bombest her ex Professor X of
0:09:10the ball dude in the wheelchair come-ons
0:09:12Black Widow add the kitchen miser is
0:09:18correct when she says that Charles
0:09:22Xavier has a thankless role in the x-men
0:09:25and therefore i will not thank him he's
0:09:29a terrible character
0:09:31oh I go for the the Black Widow seven
0:09:35days a week and twice on sundays well
0:09:38Black Widow wins the tight 89 matchup we
0:09:43move on to match up between number five
0:09:46seed daredevil advocated by Tony versus
0:09:50number 12 seat harley quinn advocated by
0:09:52Andy Andy as the underdog you get to go
0:09:55first okay you start out with a
0:09:57character that's perfect for visual
0:09:59storytelling she has a great look about
0:10:01her
0:10:01also she does things on a huge scale she
0:10:05is not a spy she's not subtle
0:10:07she has no small emotions every reaction
0:10:09is huge and whatever weapons of choice
0:10:11is an enormous hammer or a pack of wild
0:10:15dogs that loves only her and will do
0:10:17whatever she tells me to do usually
0:10:18something incredibly violent and then
0:10:20you throw in the fact that she herself
0:10:22can't see the consequences to her
0:10:24actions and so therefore she acts with
0:10:26total abandoned and much violence now
0:10:29that's not great for every book every
0:10:30where but it's good for this one but
0:10:32oddly enough and this is what makes her
0:10:35awesome that's all true but there isn't
0:10:37a single mean-spirited bone in her body
0:10:40she has a warped sense of ethics but she
0:10:42follows that sense of ethics and bad
0:10:45directions and nobody gets splattered
0:10:47out of rage or because she doesn't think
0:10:49they deserve it but then there's this
0:10:51other thing that that separates her
0:10:55unlike the Joker i mean the the
0:10:57comics don't get deep into the reasons
0:11:00why she is what she is but we know
0:11:02enough for her backstory that we know
0:11:03that she is a talented psychologist who
0:11:05has a mental illness and so there is an
0:11:09unspoken sadness about those stories as
0:11:11well so we're enjoying this sort of
0:11:13comic-book mayhem you know Looney Tunes
0:11:16but Warner Brothers stuff but unlike the
0:11:18Joker there's some sense of tragedy that
0:11:20gives it a little bit extra weight she
0:11:22is awesome
0:11:23alright Tony daredevil ok so daredevil
0:11:27is a hero who he doesn't defend America
0:11:29he doesn't even defend New York City
0:11:31defense hell's kitchen which is like you
0:11:33know a couple blocks where he lives by
0:11:35day he is a lawyer and he tends to you
0:11:38no pickup cases for defending you know
0:11:41kind of the most downtrodden and
0:11:42forgotten about people and then he puts
0:11:44on some red spandex at night and runs
0:11:47around which is particularly impressive
0:11:49because he is blind but he has kind of
0:11:51super sonar senses and acrobatic senses
0:11:54and perhaps his greatest superhero power
0:11:56of all is that no matter how hard you
0:11:59punch him he gets back up and he can
0:12:01take a beating like like nobody don't
0:12:04worry about the ben affleck version of
0:12:06you if you haven't seen it you are not
0:12:07missing anything
0:12:08check out the really cool netflix
0:12:10version i don't know Tony it's pretty
0:12:12hard to see past Ben Affleck oh you see
0:12:16what i did there
0:12:17what you did there Judgment Day not and
0:12:21that you made that pun mama Morton oh
0:12:25let's go to let's go to fill for his
0:12:28judgment i believe this is a superhero
0:12:30bracket is it not yes indeed who and why
0:12:35is harley quinn been invited to the
0:12:37party as i understand from Jackie's not
0:12:40only lawyer Chinese that makes her here
0:12:43she is a villainous therefore I
0:12:47questioned her participation are you
0:12:49throwing this case have entirely III old
0:12:52somebody in order to take their place in
0:12:54my bio ever she resented her and I
0:12:57realize in the life of a villain
0:12:59I rule for daredevil right Steve yeah
0:13:04you know I really like the depths of the
0:13:07character of hard
0:13:08Quinn and the way she's presented by
0:13:10andy is very very compelling but I my
0:13:13understanding is always been that she's
0:13:14a villain s I and I i'm not entirely
0:13:19sure how she got in here who let this
0:13:20person in she has a current comic book
0:13:23where she's basically a hero is that
0:13:25Suicide Squad know what she knows around
0:13:27our harlequin really well whatever it is
0:13:31they're fair enough well whatever its
0:13:35daredevil that's where it is so ordered
0:13:37I'll take it so ordered
0:13:40we will move on to our next matchup I
0:13:43number four seed the ultimate spider-man
0:13:46Miles Morales will be advocated by Monty
0:13:48Ashley against the number 13 seed moon
0:13:52night advocated by Dan more'n again you
0:13:56can even ask how did moonlight get in
0:13:58here for what is it a night i'm i'm i'm
0:14:03glad you asked my notes much like Tony
0:14:05say simply he's Batman season wrong he's
0:14:11not wrong
0:14:12I you know what we can pull the trigger
0:14:14his bright white costume I I'm yeah I'm
0:14:17amazing about the pressure to go for a
0:14:19moonlight that's crazy
0:14:20he's got like multiple personalities
0:14:22including most recently I believe he has
0:14:24multiple personalities that are Captain
0:14:26America Wolverine and spider-man just
0:14:28cuz that's how nuts he is in his spare
0:14:30time he apparently produces you know TV
0:14:32shows when he's not masquerading in his
0:14:34various personas like a cab driver and a
0:14:37you know billionaire playboy it's weird
0:14:41man ahead
0:14:42I don't know he makes me kind of
0:14:44generally uncomfortable even though he
0:14:47is sort of you know well trained as a a
0:14:50boxer and a former Marine and a
0:14:52mercenary and now a costume superhero
0:14:55but yeah that that white suit kind of
0:14:56Impractical having various like like a
0:14:59moon copter and like car probably i
0:15:02don't know that's that's kind of not so
0:15:04he's crazy man he's crazy
0:15:07it's like the ninjas the whitening is
0:15:10the one that's really dangerous because
0:15:12it doesn't even need to wear a TV show
0:15:13yeah Tony sorry Tony thank you for hi
0:15:16Marion Monty please talk to us about
0:15:19ultimate but I
0:15:21Miles Morales is spider-man and first I
0:15:24want to inform you he does have
0:15:25radioactive blood haha i dunno
0:15:28good to know basically you know how
0:15:31movies keep rebooting spider-man with
0:15:34another young white dude they give you
0:15:35the same origin story over and over
0:15:37again when the comic books they had this
0:15:39brilliant idea of actually asking
0:15:41themselves what would a poor orphan boy
0:15:44in New York actually looked like it
0:15:47turns out he looks like this half
0:15:48african-american half Latino kid they
0:15:50miles who is awesome
0:15:53he's a poor but smart kid acts a lot
0:15:55like spider-man but now he's half
0:15:59african-american half Latino he's the
0:16:02spider man of the future that spider-man
0:16:052099 that far future that's a farking
0:16:08check the future of like next year or so
0:16:11I have a question for advocate
0:16:13nationally
0:16:14yes sir how many goddamn spider-man's
0:16:17are we going to have a discussion as
0:16:20many i can i can answer that where there
0:16:22are as many spider-man in this
0:16:23competition as Hawkeyes as flashes and
0:16:28as people named Cabul marvel
0:16:30hey I'm here no more than I declare for
0:16:32the person who isn't the the 8000
0:16:36spider-man III was really hoping you
0:16:39guys would vote against that last
0:16:40spider-man for insufficient theme song
0:16:42references and I could swoop in with
0:16:44this one although i think technically
0:16:47Monty he has genetically altered blood
0:16:49okay babe i am even more confident in my
0:16:53ruling noun on spider-man wins
0:16:55Steve yeah you know I tend to lean
0:16:59towards a if you want to make a new
0:17:01comic come up with a new hero
0:17:03uh but apparently people choose not to
0:17:06follow my guidelines when they come up
0:17:08with comic books and understand why but
0:17:11i am also extremely confused by dan's
0:17:14don't value night Gammons I'm just
0:17:17impressed you could remember the name of
0:17:18a character get gambit is later Steve
0:17:20Campbell yet are you trying out my blog
0:17:22plated I I don't let what do you think
0:17:25I'm an idiot do you think I'm a channel
0:17:27you already won when you try to
0:17:28rationalize it with question to the
0:17:30answer first
0:17:31uh Steve let me consult my three
0:17:33personality
0:17:34I'm going on tonight with the upset
0:17:40oh well and offset we're not spider-man
0:17:43nice going all the way oh man if it gets
0:17:48a Batman and Moon Knight that's how I
0:17:50don't know what we'll do
0:17:51oh man my heart can't handle that you
0:17:53like spy vs spy wouldn't
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0:19:13we now move onto an interesting matchup
0:19:15LOL finally as God but we give me the
0:19:25plans of the Batman will find it
0:19:28intriguing that we have i'm intrigued to
0:19:30the two friends of the Batman who went
0:19:32on to also have different roles and he
0:19:36will be advocating for 11th seed Robin
0:19:40Dick Grayson also known as Nightwing
0:19:43well Lisa will be arguing for number 60
0:19:46Barbara Gordon Batgirl also known as
0:19:49oracle so it's extra confusing i pay
0:19:53close attention Andy please begin your
0:19:55advocacy for Dick Grayson Dick Grayson
0:19:58this is one of the these operatic scale
0:20:01characters in comics because she has
0:20:04this really complicated burden of a
0:20:07father-son relationship with Bruce Wayne
0:20:09that's really what this character is all
0:20:11about
0:20:12he grew up admiring and respecting and
0:20:14emulating Bruce Wayne and Bruce raised
0:20:17him and mostly made him what he is so
0:20:19much of a story though is about his
0:20:21transition to adulthood and adulthood is
0:20:23the period when she realized that this
0:20:26person that you regarded as some sort of
0:20:27a god is a human being who has
0:20:31limitations and even has defects and so
0:20:34you decide what parts of him you would
0:20:37like to emulate and then what parts
0:20:39you'd like to succeed and transcend and
0:20:41then there's the burden of him being so
0:20:43closely connected to Batman and
0:20:45everybody's eyes he he has a certain
0:20:47responsibility of taking up Bruce
0:20:49Wayne's burden when he's unable to do so
0:20:51and also at the same time trying to find
0:20:54an assert his own identity and then the
0:20:57most difficult part of his job at the
0:20:59mall is too at times be Bruce's tether
0:21:02back to reality when Alfred knows that
0:21:05the Bruce is going a little bit over the
0:21:07edge right now who's gonna who's can you
0:21:08talk to that he'll respect who can
0:21:10actually bring them down to reality and
0:21:11speak on his level there's only one
0:21:13person who can do that and that is Robin
0:21:16/ night ring all right Andy would you
0:21:18describe him as batman's güncel haha
0:21:22the reference acknowledged actually I
0:21:24was also going to go for tales of
0:21:26Hoffmann
0:21:27reference but I didn't want to go into
0:21:28attention i was running out of time
0:21:30Lisa Barbara Gordon please speak for her
0:21:32character arc has been defined by
0:21:34adversity
0:21:35although she was initially the bat the
0:21:38back girl going up there swinging around
0:21:40fighting crime having a great time
0:21:41sisters are doing it for themselves a
0:21:43tragic incident at the hands of the
0:21:47Joker rendered her paraplegic and what
0:21:49she had to retire from the active tights
0:21:53and flights crowd she reinvented herself
0:21:56as an information broker to the
0:21:58superhuman community she correctly
0:22:01predicted that in the 21st century the
0:22:03first battleground for good versus evil
0:22:06would actually be in information warfare
0:22:08and she's positioned yourself to take
0:22:11advantage of that fortunately she works
0:22:13the side of the angels but perhaps the
0:22:14most remarkable achievement as Oracle is
0:22:16an assembling the birds of prey where
0:22:18she has effectively rehab several other
0:22:21women in the DC universe created an army
0:22:24of super heroines and turn them into a
0:22:29professional network that has gone on to
0:22:31create several other successful team ups
0:22:33and inculcate members of the kind of
0:22:34values of leadership where they can now
0:22:36comfortably lead the Justice League
0:22:38thanks to what they've learned under
0:22:40Oracle in their time of birds of prey
0:22:42she's an example of resilience
0:22:43leadership vision and foresight alright
0:22:45thank you
0:22:47so there we have it to people with
0:22:49strong connections to Batman they also
0:22:52used to date this changes everything
0:22:56super awkward right there just standing
0:22:59on the platform is not looking at each
0:23:00other just exactly yeah I don't think
0:23:04Grayson to me has always been the little
0:23:07of irritating Adam West follow along guy
0:23:11who's says poli whatever Batman and
0:23:14that's that's a little hard to get past
0:23:15whereas back girl i like the storyline
0:23:20of the character who has overcome a lot
0:23:21including if the film batman and robin
0:23:24is anything to go by a tragic lack of
0:23:26nipples which you know that's that's a
0:23:29rough lot to draw
0:23:30ah so i'm going to go with that with
0:23:32barb oracle film
0:23:351997 Batman and Robin presents a
0:23:41troubling precedent for decided in favor
0:23:45of either superhero uh Robin is a
0:23:50yes-man twit Barbara is a really a
0:23:56follower and a is played by alicia
0:24:01silverstone 1pi away from disaster
0:24:06I however it's like he didn't even
0:24:10listen to our removes his way download
0:24:15differentiation I sure can hold your
0:24:17tongue that I moved by Miss misers
0:24:23defense of Barbara Gordon and her
0:24:26portrayal of a barber garden in the
0:24:30birds of prey universe
0:24:32I rule in favor of Batgirl oracle all
0:24:36right Batgirl moves along as the same
0:24:39seed sorry Chum drinking editors around
0:24:42ranking representative of the Church of
0:24:43Batman door systems good thank you don't
0:24:46like an archbishop wait dick Grayson's
0:24:49we've gotten so big in a jolt record at
0:24:52movies like playing suncity it takes you
0:24:54forever because yes it does not the
0:24:57round round rebels rule i think but
0:24:59daredevil advances but that well he got
0:25:01the white washing of the Netflix series
0:25:03to a sack like yeah you have the hot new
0:25:05daredevil we're going to another matchup
0:25:08we have green arrow
0:25:10who's gonna be advocated by Dan more'n
0:25:12of this Piero cast don't mess this up
0:25:15more and i love green arrow against
0:25:17number 14 seed mr. fantastic of the
0:25:19Fantastic Four advocated by Indian IQ
0:25:23Andy you may go first
0:25:25he's one of the most important
0:25:27characters the entire Marvel Universe
0:25:28there are few handful there are some
0:25:30characters who can save the city there
0:25:32are fewer characters who can save the
0:25:33planet
0:25:34mr. fantastic has the smarts to figure
0:25:36out how to save the entire universe and
0:25:38all of reality unless there's unless a
0:25:40marketing thing involved it's not his
0:25:41fault he's he's a not only a genius but
0:25:45he's a creative genius like motor where
0:25:47he makes these amazingly
0:25:49oops of intelligence to see things and
0:25:51ask questions that haven't been there
0:25:52before and yet he does so with humility
0:25:55he's the person who will civil but when
0:25:57we need an expert on by radiation he
0:25:59will bring in another person saying look
0:26:01it costs me nothing to admit that you
0:26:03know more about this we have more
0:26:04experience in this than I do let's work
0:26:05together on this and yet it was despite
0:26:08his responsibilities
0:26:10he's still a good husband and father now
0:26:11oftentimes is depicted as the person
0:26:14who's tuning out his wife and his kids
0:26:15but i prefer to see it the other way
0:26:17that he is my his mind is always on
0:26:19exploration he's always once tenth of a
0:26:22second away from some sort of
0:26:23breakthrough that fascinates them and
0:26:25yet he's always turning off the
0:26:26superbowl three minutes from the end
0:26:28when a tie score to be with his family
0:26:30so he is a fantastic character he's a
0:26:33smart guy he's a good person and he can
0:26:36turn himself into a rubber ball and
0:26:37bounce around that makes him awesome
0:26:39alright then well green arrow when I of
0:26:42course refer to the Oliver Queen version
0:26:44here is one of the great heroes in the
0:26:48DC Universe a major member in the
0:26:51Justice League and just you know a great
0:26:53guy who I think has you know a number of
0:26:56things going from 41 you know like so
0:26:58many other people he is he's under
0:27:00super-powered so he has to take it on
0:27:01himself to do what he can with the
0:27:03skills that he has which include being a
0:27:05master Archer among other things you
0:27:08know he used to pal around with green
0:27:10lantern a bit
0:27:11they did a lot of stuff that dealt with
0:27:13sort of the social conscience you know
0:27:15and he had to like get his partner off
0:27:17heroin man like that's that's some
0:27:19serious stuff going on there he was
0:27:22stuck on an island for many years which
0:27:24is where he learned many of his skills
0:27:25and and this sort of you know prompted
0:27:28him to come back and and try to save his
0:27:30City with a very personal appeal there
0:27:32and I i think that's that's a lot of
0:27:34what's going 4-4 green arrow and i will
0:27:38note that it you know
0:27:40well he may not be the most a
0:27:43the most high-profile of superheroes
0:27:46he's also not you know stuck in his life
0:27:48science lab all day he's getting down
0:27:49the street she's getting dirty he's
0:27:51getting he's getting gritty he's
0:27:53hands-on and i will point out as per
0:27:55Phil's earlier discussion shape-shifting
0:27:57is not really a superpower so you know
0:27:59ok thank you thank you Dan time I she's
0:28:04arrows huh yeah i-i've noticed its we
0:28:07have three arrow shooting heroes in this
0:28:09accomplishment has he has a boxing glove
0:28:11arrow so you know and so far pollero
0:28:14somehow have not come to the fore during
0:28:16the discussion I think that's
0:28:17interesting as well
0:28:18Steve what are your thoughts about green
0:28:19arrow vs mr fantastic i think he came up
0:28:22with that name himself but I didn't hear
0:28:24an awful yes that's the humility of
0:28:26which andy spoke and certain on display
0:28:27right there
0:28:28um yeah I didn't hear a lot about what
0:28:31green arrow can actually do other than
0:28:33apparently get people off of hard drugs
0:28:35which is impressive you have to admit on
0:28:38the other hand mr. fantastic manages to
0:28:40be the least interesting hero and a team
0:28:42that includes Ava's so true i got a rule
0:28:48in favor green arrow don't I believe
0:28:51that sea storm initiated divorce
0:28:54proceedings against mr. fantastic i
0:28:57guess he wasn't that fantastic but
0:28:59apparently not recount point point point
0:29:03of order the the denominator in question
0:29:05also has a habit of leaving her family
0:29:07whenever things get tough doing millions
0:29:10of dollars with the damage the Baxter
0:29:12building instead of sitting down and
0:29:13talking things out and be her only
0:29:15victim
0:29:16yeah exactly that's why we blaming mr.
0:29:19fantastic thank you very much someone on
0:29:21my side
0:29:22order order Judge Michael please
0:29:25continue your when you have a situation
0:29:27where even see his store cannot stand to
0:29:30be around mister fantastic
0:29:32one wonders how fast he is a weedy good
0:29:36heavens I rule in favor of the green
0:29:39here and like a green arrow moves i
0:29:41doing on my justice you know i'm
0:29:44horrible some ballots I'm some sort of
0:29:45thing I I'm up on fire like a human
0:29:49story and i'm going to visible and i'll
0:29:51be called mister fantastic
0:29:53oh sorry Andy mr. better
0:29:55rest of you is just no two ways about it
0:29:58demands a turd
0:29:59that's the type of wires one person
0:30:00saves the University of the ones put
0:30:02some things hey what if i put a boxing
0:30:03glove by the end of this arrow little
0:30:06ego 12 feet but that's what ya got that
0:30:10bank robber that I always seem to face
0:30:12will be handled the ball is bracketed
0:30:14save the universe takes more than that
0:30:15can uses plastic arms to thumb for awry
0:30:19are moving onto another matchup as it
0:30:22rounds must we move on we must move on
0:30:25loop number seven
0:30:28deadpool advocated by Lisa Schmeisser
0:30:31versus number ten Martian Manhunter he
0:30:34does not al-dam more and I'm gonna have
0:30:36to ask you just as a point of
0:30:38clarification of the beginning is he a
0:30:39Martian who hunts men or or or somebody
0:30:42who hunts Martian men are is a Martian
0:30:45man who just happens to hunt any way Dan
0:30:47you make advocate for Martian Manhunter
0:30:48that's a great question Jason he made
0:30:51out of chocolate first I'd like to I'd
0:30:53like to clarify that Martian Manhunter
0:30:55isn't not has not been and will probably
0:30:58never be played by ryan reynolds i think
0:31:00that is an important point
0:31:01ok then one night I objection he's
0:31:05trying to bias after Syria Martian
0:31:08Manhunter first of all obviously is from
0:31:10Mars is indeed he's a green Martian I
0:31:13think Martian Manhunter is one of my
0:31:15favorite Justice League characters
0:31:16because among other things first of all
0:31:19he's got a lot of awesome powers he can
0:31:20fly he can he's basically invulnerable
0:31:23he can turn intangible and phase through
0:31:25solid objects you can turn invisible he
0:31:27has telekinesis telepathy i mean he's
0:31:30basically you know he could probably
0:31:32kick Superman's acid all I'm saying it's
0:31:34just it's just a thing and so I i think
0:31:38in particular i like the Martian
0:31:40Manhunter he ends up being uh often sort
0:31:42of the voice of rational reason among
0:31:46the Justice League and let me tell you
0:31:47when you've got like an insane guy who
0:31:49dresses up as a bat you need a rational
0:31:51voice of reason every once in awhile and
0:31:54church a bad man is listening quiet i
0:31:56mean i think even Batman would admit
0:31:58that Martian Manhunter is a valuable
0:31:59present in the Justice League okay Lisa
0:32:03Oh Marvel's Merc with a mouth I can't
0:32:06believe this is even a contest Deadpool
0:32:08has the same type of superhuman healing
0:32:10factor that the that Wolverine has
0:32:12except here's the thing
0:32:15deadpool can regrow severed severed
0:32:16limbs so he's like a starfish accept a
0:32:18starfish that kills people and clips a
0:32:21lot and he's immune to drugs but he's
0:32:24not immune to make a fine wisecrack and
0:32:26he has a little pathetic backstory which
0:32:27is always better and entertaining and he
0:32:30carries two swords on his back and
0:32:31everyone knows swords are super cool and
0:32:34because he's a mercenary with a big old
0:32:36merc eberle background he presents
0:32:38endless opportunities for really fun
0:32:40stories and or heel turns whenever
0:32:42decides to serve the narrative this is
0:32:45somebody who is richly layered and
0:32:46complex and they make him a jerk
0:32:50basically because otherwise you have
0:32:51somebody who can regrow limbs and is
0:32:52immune to to be to being dead and you
0:32:55have to do something to keep them from
0:32:56taking over the planet anyway Deadpool
0:32:58entertaining fun a starfish with clips
0:33:01I rest my case to clarify was he has he
0:33:04ever been played by ryan reynolds ah you
0:33:06don't have to answer that on the ground
0:33:08for the main criminate your client I
0:33:11don't know to be honest with you bill
0:33:13what are your thoughts being part being
0:33:15part of the justice league does not
0:33:18convey dignity
0:33:19wow that was a deciding president there
0:33:27the Aquaman president not being a part
0:33:29of the justice league does not deprive
0:33:31you of dignity I rule in favor of
0:33:38Deadpool ok Steve yeah Deadpool I don't
0:33:43know I get so tired of characters who
0:33:45are primarily defined by the fact that
0:33:47they're quickie and sarcastic and in
0:33:50addition i should point out that the
0:33:51ability to regrow severed limbs sounds
0:33:53suspiciously close to shape-shifting
0:33:55which you know i'm not sure about this
0:33:58president area on the other hand Martian
0:34:01Manhunter so tom has he has he has his
0:34:09cross your heart upper support garment
0:34:12that's an interesting point he actually
0:34:14almost it's almost as our does think
0:34:15he's rocking at the top have
0:34:17uh but i gotta find for Deadpool
0:34:20Deadpool moves on and our last matchup
0:34:25in the Gotham region number two seed
0:34:27Wonder Woman advocated by Andy and
0:34:30Nicole versus number 15 only Wildcat
0:34:32advocated by Monty Monty who the hell is
0:34:36Wildcat well first thank you for the
0:34:40entirely unbiased introduction that
0:34:42Wildcat is an older DC Comics character
0:34:46who's an ex-boxer that's pretty much all
0:34:50he has going for him
0:34:52they claimed he has the superpower of
0:34:54having nine lives but he's been around
0:34:57for like 70 years and he very rarely
0:35:01actually uses any of them so the
0:35:03important thing is just think of him as
0:35:04a guy who used to be a boxer now dresses
0:35:07up like a cat and punches criminals in
0:35:09the face right but here's the thing he's
0:35:13really good at punching people in the
0:35:15face and as an ex-boxer he's one of the
0:35:17few people with an actual justification
0:35:19for his fighting skills in the DC world
0:35:23he's the guy that trained Batman to
0:35:25fight also trained Catwoman and Black
0:35:27Canary and anyone else who they written
0:35:29the story requires to be a good fighter
0:35:32they eventually have to wave their hands
0:35:33and say oh Wildcat trained him because
0:35:37Wildcat is almost the only guy in DC
0:35:39who's actually justified in being a good
0:35:43fighter
0:35:44I thought Liam Neeson trained Batman we
0:35:46also on the radium what you think of the
0:35:49small business owners and also that guy
0:35:50with the ponytail in space all right
0:35:52Thank You Monty andy / 24-hour for
0:35:56Wonder Woman Wonder Woman she's an icon
0:35:59starting off she is part of the Trinity
0:36:02such a significant character not only in
0:36:05what she is but she can represent all
0:36:07the other characters that DC simply said
0:36:09that this is the easy year she's one of
0:36:10the three characters that forms the
0:36:12basis of all the superheroes inside the
0:36:14DC Universe she's a princess who fought
0:36:16very very hard anonymously to win the
0:36:19right to leave the island and be the
0:36:21emissary from this the Paradise Island
0:36:24of warriors so she left and she left
0:36:26this island armed with the knowledge and
0:36:28training of
0:36:30all kinds of weaponry all kinds of
0:36:32fighting and basically that as much
0:36:34smarts as you can put inside a single
0:36:37body all for that however she's not
0:36:39there to kick but she she embodies the
0:36:42idea that you don't always have to be
0:36:45nice in this world but you almost always
0:36:47do have to be kind she is the person
0:36:49whose presence in the room not only puts
0:36:52together a sense of peace but also a
0:36:55sense of severity of the situations like
0:36:58she has set foot in this room that means
0:37:00that things have just gone up about 10
0:37:02times she will give you the opportunity
0:37:03to understand that you don't have to
0:37:06fight this out this is a stupid thing
0:37:08that you're doing right now we can do
0:37:09things differently but if you do decide
0:37:11to fight you are almost certainly going
0:37:13forward I I on this point Andy I have to
0:37:16ask would you say that she would make a
0:37:19hawk and dove stop alone perhaps even
0:37:23better light truck the truth indeed
0:37:25interested in watching that show what
0:37:26she has done none of those things and
0:37:29who wants to better understand the line
0:37:30get us out from under wonder woman who
0:37:32wants me I wonder wonder women for your
0:37:35mind babe you make a strong case it is
0:37:37time for the judges to rule Steve what
0:37:39are your thoughts
0:37:40wow I love the the idea of a character
0:37:43whose entirety is I'm an ex-boxer who
0:37:46punches people in the face on the other
0:37:49hand man wonderland theme song is so
0:37:51good so good morning morning morning
0:37:54morning walk and I point out that part
0:37:56way through the second season they
0:37:57stopped singing the theme song at the
0:37:58beginning of the show
0:37:59Monty she's in her satellites she's
0:38:02fighting for rights respected and the
0:38:04old red white and blue
0:38:05I find for wonder woman I can't say it
0:38:08but i find for it
0:38:10the curious case of benjamin button guys
0:38:18I think Scully has gone Harpo again
0:38:20yeah i think that that means includes a
0:38:23hard-working clerk to cover cover up for
0:38:25this special thinking juice i think
0:38:28they'll get the shaker up
0:38:33like Steve I admire the ability to punch
0:38:36people
0:38:39however wonder woman stands head and
0:38:44shoulders and course it up among other
0:38:47things so many other superheroes one
0:38:52cannot rule against her it in this early
0:38:54round I rule in favor of Wonder Woman
0:38:57yeah i was very sad argue against one
0:38:59woman given that i'm actually being paid
0:39:01to write about the Wonder Woman TV show
0:39:02right now that we've completed two
0:39:05brackets now the gamma-ray and the
0:39:08central city region we have we have we
0:39:10have learned much I need some gatorade I
0:39:13need to replenish your electrolytes I
0:39:15need some gatorade to quote it i'm going
0:39:20to continue my special brand of swift
0:39:22and stupid justice
0:39:23join us tomorrow for the metropolis
0:39:25region until then I have been your host
0:39:28Jason Snell thanks for joining us this
0:39:30has been the incomparable summer
0:39:32superhero spectacular
0:39:38this chip out all that last bracket i
0:39:39had Starman and that was their man
0:39:42oh so basically yes now and send me to
0:39:44drinking tail if you would if you would
0:39:46emphasize the Bowie aspect of star man i
0:39:48might have I might have leaned for that
0:39:50doesn't star Matt waiting in the sky
0:39:54he'd like to come and sing but if they
0:39:56see blow our minds
0:39:58there's a star man let's go said let go
0:40:06let the children lose him
0:40:10let all the children through game that's
0:40:13ok it's alright it's alright Ricky right
0:40:17all right I honestly had you use the
0:40:19phrase let all the children boo gay I
0:40:22would definitely have to take a star man
0:40:23over back now you know how Steve rules
0:40:25you do the other young I you finally
0:40:36well-known found malware home went down
0:40:43when I home they all do when I don't
0:40:47know
0:40:48Donaire oh I don't know around i had to
0:40:54find someone so i picked on you
0:40:56whoo-hoo hey that's far out so you heard
0:41:00him too
0:41:01whoo-hoo switch on the TV we may pick
0:41:04him up um channel24 you but to pretend
0:41:08you look out your window I can see his
0:41:12la had to get played guitar but you
0:41:17haven't good with will indian air and
0:41:20spiders from mars he could play in hand
0:41:25but he made him too far came on so
0:41:31loaded man we're hugging pseudo y10 but
0:41:36we're with this does dad do don't they
0:41:40all do when the Flies tried to break up
0:41:44aholes black and white
0:41:46but Maasai yeah when when gets it kill
0:41:51you man
0:41:52Matt have to break up the band
0:41:55ya see many ways
0:41:59hug hug on touhy pop ice
0:42:08absolutely