595: Federico Says “He Will Gone”
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Hello and welcome to Connected episode 595. Today is March 19th. I'm not going to tell
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you the year. That's up to you. My name is Steven. I'm the annual chairman. What that means
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is I'm the best host of the show for the whole year. And I'm joined by someone who has no
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title at all, Mike. Because I'm a man of the people, I will tell you the year. It is the
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year 2035. That's not true. Yes, it is. It's the year 2035. And I would like to introduce
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the keynote chairman. He is the best host for the keynote. That is Federico Faticci. Hi,
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Federico. Hello. Hello. How are you? Great. It's 2035. You know why I'm not great, actually?
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This follow-up. Oh, okay. This follow-up's really annoying to me. This follow-up's so annoying.
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I'm so annoyed by this follow-up. Specifically targeted at Mike. Yeah, and it's so annoying.
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Yeah. It's really annoying. So on the last episode, we spoke about a portable, I will state,
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portable Satechi iPad dock, to which I said, nobody needs this product. Like, you just don't
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need it. Guess what happened? Listener Tom wrote in and said, the Satechi dock would be some
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amazing hardware for pro photographers who shoot tethered in a studio or mobile studio. This used to be done
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of a Mac Pro on a trolley and a cinema display, but has moved to laptops. And I know one photographer
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already using an iPad on set. Something like this connected to a big SSD would be really powerful.
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And listener Stephen wrote in and said, I immediately sent a link to the dock to our purchaser at work
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in live audio production and a bunch of mixing consoles used on using an iPad instead of a traditional
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board to mix, import show files, save recordings, etc. Until this point, we've been using a magic keyboard for
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power and a USB dongle to plug in multiple drives and mirror the iPad's display. But this will save a
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lot of space that that keyboard takes up. The point that I was trying to make on the last episode, I
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believe still remains. It's not that the idea of a dock in general is wrong for the iPad is I just
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If these two people, or the people that they know, are getting by without anything currently, this is not the product that's going to change everything in your life. Because you can use any hub to do this. Like you don't need to use the Satechi on the go hub. Any hub will give you what you're looking for.
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That's kind of the point that I was making. Like, that one particular product was funny to me. Because it's like, look at all this IO that you can have on the go. And it's like, I just don't. Anything can be on the go if you take it with you. Like it did that that was more when I'm saying, I still think that my point remains, I'm absolutely not surprised that multiple people were in to tell me, but I will use it.
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I would like feedback, continued feedback from Tom and Stephen on their purchasing and use of this product. If you could please continue writing into me, I would appreciate that.
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My point is made.
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Seems like it.
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We had a question from an anonymous listener who wrote, a question from an iPhone 16 Pro Max user.
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How has the vapor cooling system on the 17 Pro improved the hotness on the backside of the phone when under heavy load, such as charging while playing a game?
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My current phone is almost too hot to touch in these circumstances, and I would consider upgrading if the vapor cooling has really resolved this.
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I believe that it has.
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I think in the time that I've had my iPhone 17 Pro, I've felt it hot once, and it was a daily occurrence for me before.
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Yeah, my 16 Pro, I would get the too hot to charge thing, like basically every time I got in my truck.
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And the vapor cooling thing really seems to have solved it, and I kind of expect that to spread to other products over time.
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You should do.
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Federico, does the air get hot?
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No, it doesn't. It really doesn't.
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And I've been thinking about this. I've spent six months with the iPhone Air at this point.
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Here it comes.
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No, no, no. Here comes nothing.
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It's just...
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Here comes nothing.
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So, I really love how lightweight it is, but six months in, you know, you've got to be realistic.
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The camera is an annoyance, and the battery life is an annoyance.
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Now, unlike others, I think I am not particularly excited about this current iPhone generation.
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Because my mind is projected to the fold in September and whatever they're going to do next year for the 20th anniversary.
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So, I see this sort of interim generation right now as a step towards something better and more exciting for me.
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So, I really do like the iPhone Air.
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But six months in, and maybe I should write about this, you know, especially now that I'm dual carrying the Z Fold 7.
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I find myself reaching, for example, for the Z Fold 7 to take pictures.
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This is a whole separate conversation for me, by the way, how I don't know what Apple has done to the iPhone camera in recent years.
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But boy, do I hate the photographic styles with a passion.
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Oh, I love photographic styles.
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I don't know what they have done.
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The iPhone takes such bad pictures now.
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I don't agree with you.
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Well, you grab a Samsung, you take a photo, and it looks 100 times better by default than whatever the iPhone does.
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It's just my personal taste.
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And I really, really, really, I cannot stress this enough.
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I really hate the photographic styles, the UI, the fact that I don't understand what the words mean.
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It is way too obtuse, right?
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That little stupid touchpad, instead of just, you want me to enter some, you want me to enter some numeric values for words like color and tone.
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Like, aren't those the same thing?
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Like, it's like the iPhone camera requires you to use a dictionary now.
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I just, but this is a tangent that, you know, I've already said enough.
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Anyway, the iPhone Air, what's the name of the listener asking for feedback?
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The iPhone Air does not get hot.
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It gets warm when you're charging it, and the battery doesn't last that much.
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The iPhone Air is a great phone to keep in a backpack, because the little plateau is so grabbable.
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It's really nice to just, like, grab it like that.
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The iPhone Air feels, as an object, it feels so nice.
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It's, and the fact that the computer is all in there, like, as an object, it's fantastic.
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I will say this.
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It feels so nice in the hand.
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But I'm waiting for the fold.
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It's so funny to go from that phone to a folding phone.
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Well, as I've been thinking about this, that's what I wanted to say, not the camera.
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I've been thinking about this.
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I got the Air, because we know two things about the fold, right?
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We know that it's going to be thin on both parts, and we know that it's going to be short.
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And I kind of feel like I've spent six months with a thin part, and part of me wonders if
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I should spend the next six months with a short part of the iPhone experience, which means
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You know what I mean?
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Like, so I tried thin, and maybe next I should try short.
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But it's not short enough.
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But it's not short enough.
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You'd need to go to, like, a 5.
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Get a minute.
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Get, like, an iPhone 5 or something like that, and then you'll be on it.
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I will say, I have a bit of an unfair reputation for flip-flopping with my technology.
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This is the most incredible reasoning I've ever heard to change phones mid-cycle.
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Oh, you think this is incredible?
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One, I'm all for it.
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But two, like, yeah, the gymnastics that we are seeing here are just next level.
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I can do so much better than this.
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Also, you said, no, I mean, you said unfair reputation.
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It is not an unfair reputation.
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You have made some truly incredible flip-flops.
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It's not how, I don't think that's what the record would reflect.
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I think there actually is a record.
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Is there a record?
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Don't you currently have two MacBook Neos?
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One is, uh, the one's going to a kid.
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To replace the, what was it, the downstairs laptop?
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The downstairs laptop.
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So, I'll just provide a lot.
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In computer life, because you wanted to get rid of the desktop for that, right?
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Steven, you have built an entire sort of narrative about this family of yours and this house of yours that only exists to assign computers to these people.
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We've never seen his family.
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Kids don't exist.
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They're always out of town.
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Um, that's the real reason their photos aren't on social media.
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I was there for mental gymnastics.
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Yeah, there you go.
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The whole life is fake.
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I just go to Mary and be like, I really think we need another kid, because I have this, this, uh, iPad that needs a home, you know?
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No, I, you know, the, it is interesting.
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The, what I keep coming back to about the air versus the, um, the foldable is like, is actually the weight.
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Like, is the foldable going to actually weigh more?
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I think it will weigh more than the regular 17.
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I don't know if it'll weigh as much as the 17 Pro, but, and thinking about changing from the air up to the foldable next year.
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Like, I think it may actually feel like a bigger jump in size and weight than it actually will be because the air is so different than what came before.
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Does that make sense?
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I'm sorry to upset you, Steven, but I think it's going to be heavier than the Pro.
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I think it's going to be maybe between the Pro and the Pro Max.
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It's two phones.
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You can't get around that, no matter how thin you make it.
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It's still two phones.
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I'm, I'm very excited though.
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I'm not surprised that Samsung and others may go down this road with Apple to make, uh, thin and wide phones.
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But I mean, you know, the, there was another story recently about like the proposed dimensions of the, the, uh, the foldable iPhone.
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And it's basically what we saw before, you know, a bunch of us 3d printed them.
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And so I pulled that thing back out of the drawer and like, it's weird.
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I, it's, uh, uh, I really look forward to hearing Apple's story on why they chose the size that they have seemingly chosen.
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So you're a menace, Steven.
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You've had a week of being a menace.
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Um, you've now created 3d printable files for a little finder guy and a set of wallpapers.
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Still haven't gotten sued amazingly.
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No takedown notices yet.
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No takedown notices.
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Congratulations to you.
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I mean, I think I even saw it in Daring Fireball.
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So I figure if you haven't gotten it by now, you're probably not going to get it.
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That or like the top of, uh, R slash Apple.
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It's like, okay, I've survived.
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Were you at the, were you on R slash Apple with this?
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Uh, I think the, wait, maybe that was Neo stuff.
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I don't remember.
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It's been a wild couple of weeks.
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Blogging's back.
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Your blog is back.
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You can 3d print your own little finder and there are other models as well.
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In fact, someone beat me to this cause basic Apple guy and I were working on this last week
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and then I did a final test print over the weekend.
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And in that final print, someone else beat me to having a file up, but that's fine.
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Um, and then I was just like going about my day, actually a day off, a vacation day.
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And James Thompson just texted me a bunch of 5k wallpapers of a little finder.
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So, uh, I posted those and then, uh, then I put one of those wallpapers on an iMac G3 to like reinvent the flower power look.
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Whose idea was that?
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That was your idea.
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And it was a good idea.
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Once again, what is it on attribution?
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I feel like I can just start sending you that link more often.
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A little hat tip.
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Uh, attribution and credit.
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I want to, what is it?
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I want to ping back.
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Well, I mean, sure.
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Ping me back.
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I'll ping me back.
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You can just link people to our iMessage thread.
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Just ping me back, Steven.
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Uh, so yes, it's been huge little finder energy over on 512.
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But, uh, I don't have anything else planned other than a face tattoo.
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Nothing else.
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You're gonna, you're gonna go half blue?
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Half and half blue on your face?
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You know, blue, blue and gray, the colors of my college.
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So, you know, it kind of works.
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Is it funny in a way that like the little finder guy actually doesn't have the border,
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you know, like, like actual finder does now.
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So like, if you think about it, the actual best representation of the finder is this little
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Isn't that funny?
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And I, when it first came out, I linked to my thing last summer where I was mad about
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the colors being reversed in Tahoe.
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It was like, I saved his face.
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Well, I don't think that would have been a, like, I don't, if they were just the other
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way around, it's like, ah, he's hideous.
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Ah, burn him.
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Like, you know, I don't think.
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I mean, actually, some of you Mac people may have been like that, you know?
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Like burn him, burn him.
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It wouldn't have been, it would have been a little devil instead of a little angel.
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If his colors were reversed.
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I have a little, uh, four inch little finder sitting on the corner of my desk.
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I can't wait to get my own.
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I'm very excited about him.
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You know what somebody should do?
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They should mod little finder guy into GTA five.
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Just put him everywhere, man.
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Let's get him into it.
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Let's get him into it.
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Let's get him into Fortnite.
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Let's get, what are we going to do to get a little Fortnite guy?
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I think that's the last game Apple would put him in.
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Give him a little finder guy.
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Give him a gun.
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Give him a little finder guy.
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Give him a gun.
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Put a little finder guy in Skyrim, for God's sake.
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Give him a gun.
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Give him a gun.
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Let's see what you'll do.
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Let's unleash him on liquid glass.
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Let's see what happens.
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Mike, I need you to be a judge.
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Oh, this is terrible.
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So, the other evening, I was looking through my calendar for the rest of the week, as one
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And on tomorrow, Friday, March 20th, I won't tell you the year, I have an all-day event
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in my calendar.
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And it says, $5 bet, John Andrea is still at Apple.
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And in the note, it says, Federico says he will gone, I say he is still there.
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Federico says he will gone.
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He will go, yeah.
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He will be gone.
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Find a guy, got him.
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And so, let me read from an Apple press release from December.
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Apple today announced that John Genadrea, Apple's senior vice president, machine learning, blah,
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blah, blah, is stepping down from his position and will serve as an advisor to the company
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before retiring in the spring of 2026.
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Yeah, this is clear cut.
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Federico won.
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Yeah, I mean.
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Because John Genadrea, he will gone.
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Like, he's gone.
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His badge doesn't work.
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You know, like, badge still works?
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No, his badge doesn't work.
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No, it doesn't work.
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That's where Genadrea is.
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It doesn't work.
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He was escorted out of the premises.
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So, Federico, you were owed $5.
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Yeah, give me $5, man.
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Come on, man.
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How can I give you $5?
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Give me $5 and a computer of yours.
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He's up the stakes.
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I mean, isn't it worth, like, those old computers that you have, they were, like, $5, $7?
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It really depends.
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What's an iBook worth?
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Like, I don't know, $12?
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I mean, that is a great question.
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I mean, it's an iBook.
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What could it be?
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What could it be?
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How much is an iBook worth, Steven?
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I'm going to send you money.
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Like a G3 iBook.
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What is that?
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Let's see what eBay says.
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So, I bought an iPod Nano.
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I bought a new in-box iPod Nano.
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Everything's gotten expensive.
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And it was a pretty decent price, but when it arrived, it was super swollen.
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I recycled it.
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So, that's money lost.
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That's unfortunate.
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I was too scared.
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I was too scared to have that.
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You bought something to recycle.
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It turns out, what I did was just, I bought a new in-box iPod Nano, had it for like two
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hours, and then recycled it.
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I'm not as good a collector as Steven, it turns out.
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So, people want several hundred dollars for an iBook G3 now.
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That's too much.
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This is the problem with collecting now.
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It's gotten way too expensive.
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People, I know what I got.
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And I was like, no, you don't.
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You got to bust it up iBook.
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Settle down.
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I'm PayPal-ing you $5, Federico.
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The fees, man.
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He's actually giving like a $45 bet.
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It's the component shortages, you know?
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PayPal can't put the money around really easy.
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Well, thank you for helping us settle that, Mike.
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Federico, I know how you could spend your money.
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You could get some sick new Relay merch.
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It's so good.
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Mine arrived.
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I love it so much.
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I got everything, and I'm super happy with it.
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You can go to Relay.fm slash store, and you can peruse our homages to various classic tech
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companies in a Relay logo style.
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They're super good.
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Go and check them out.
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There are stickers available, too, and t-shirts.
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Yes, it's a good time.
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It's a good time over there at Relay.fm slash store.
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So are you two still in the love affair with the MacBook Neo?
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In the sense that I like using it.
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It's like the iPhone Air, the more I think about it.
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I like using it, but right now I am working on my MacBook Pro.
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So what does that mean?
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It's your downstairs computer.
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It's my downstairs computer.
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I guess you're right.
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It's my downstairs...
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Is that a new expression, by the way?
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Is that a new thing that people...
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People keep saying it.
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But is it like people say it in 2026?
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Like, is it new now?
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It feels like it's a new thing now that there's this laptop, you know?
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Who came up with it?
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I don't know.
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Was it Casey?
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It might have been.
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No, Jason said it to me.
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He said, I keep hearing people talking about having a downstairs computer.
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I'm sure Steven has said this before Casey said it.
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I'll take credit.
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This is a Steven thing.
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I really, really like this little laptop.
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I used it heavily over the last week or so.
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Again, I had some time off for spring break, but I was working on some non-work stuff, and
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it was awesome.
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The battery life's great.
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You know, it's fun to have a blue laptop.
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You know, the Indigo.
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So, on episode 593, Steven said, today, oh, it's at least I'm using the Podsearch thing.
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We have disclosed that you bought an M3 MacBook Air that you have been using as your downstairs
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For some time.
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Someone else said it.
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Yeah, it was me.
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So, let me, should I update you on all the moving around?
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I mean, what, is it upstairs now?
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No, the Neo's my downstairs computer.
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The M3 Air went to a family member who needed a replacement.
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And the Citrus Neo, which I also have, is going to our youngest for, like, a homework and school
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computer, because he has more and more sort of online homework.
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And doing it on an iPad mini is struggling.
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And then he's, like, trying to borrow his sister's laptop for homework.
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It's just kind of a mess.
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So, I'll keep it the Indigo one for me is my downstairs computer.
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And it's great.
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Downstairs computer.
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Yeah, it's really quite, quite special.
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I mean, I keep just, like, looking at the product page.
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And then I think to myself, similar to what Federico is saying, I'm just not going to use
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this computer, so I don't buy it.
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Like, I would use it.
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I would set it up, and I'd be super excited about it.
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And then in, like, two weeks' time, it's just not going to be used anymore.
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Because my MacBook Air is my downstairs computer.
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Well, actually, my iPad Pro is my downstairs computer.
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But my MacBook Air is also that.
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Like, if I need a Mac, I will use my MacBook Air.
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I don't need a MacBook Neo.
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Like, I just don't need it.
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I would have two...
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It's too many computers at that point.
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I mean, we've got to be honest.
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There's too many computers.
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Because now there's three downstairs, and there's too many.
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This has really set the iPad for me as just, like, a way to watch TV my wife doesn't want
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to watch with me.
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So there's that.
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But that's a great use for an iPad, though.
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It means I will not buy a new one for a long time.
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Well, yes, you say that now.
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They'll do, like...
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What's the...
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You know, that Tandem is two.
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What would you say for three?
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They'll make a Tridem OLED, and you'll be like, oh, but I need it for my downstairs TV watcher.
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I think that's the Z Tri-OLED is what you're looking for.
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It's my downstairs TV or my upstairs TV.
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This is going to be you.
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I need an office TV, and I'll just get an iPad for that.
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I've thought about an office TV, but that's ridiculous.
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We should get another iPad.
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Just get another iPad.
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But yeah, the Neo's great.
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And I keep...
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Mike, I texted you this yesterday.
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Like, social media just wants me to see all the Neo takes.
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And wow, do people have some bad takes about the MacBook Neo.
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But one thing that is really cool that, of course, people have been talking about is the repairable nature of it.
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That there's no glue.
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You can replace the keyboard without replacing the top case, which is not true on the other notebooks.
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It's just, it's really cool to see how Apple put this thing together.
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And yeah, you know, clearly they're compromises, but those compromises don't matter for the vast majority of people.
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Especially me and my downstairs computer.
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So, I am thrilled to keep it.
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All right, Federico.
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It's time to go to space.
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With Comet for iOS.
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Yeah, so this is the browser by Perplexity that has been in beta on iOS for the past month or so, at least, that I had access to.
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And it launched on iOS yesterday.
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And I didn't know, but it was also on the iPad.
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I found out later on the App Store.
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It was not in the test flight.
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And it's not a particularly good iPad version at all.
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I mean, it doesn't even have Command-T to create a new tab or Command-L to put the focus in the address bar.
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So, it's a very bare-bones iPad version.
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Just on that note, something's happened in Google Docs and Command-B just doesn't bold anything anymore.
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It just doesn't work.
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On the iPad app.
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So, you know, it's going great over Google as well.
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You know where it would work.
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Downstairs computer.
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On a MacBook Neo?
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Sorry, Federico.
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So, it's primarily an iPhone browser, I will say.
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And, I mean, it's doing Comet things.
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It has a build.
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So, it looks like Safari on the iPhone.
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It has the address bar at the bottom.
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Very much inspired by Safari.
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It uses liquid glass and all of that.
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It's like the rest of the UI is like a mix of Safari and Chrome for iOS.
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I really dislike Chrome for iOS, I should say.
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It's got this segmented control to switch between private mode, regular mode, and your recent tabs from other devices.
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You can sync with other instances of Comet.
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The sync is kind of weird in that you have to initiate a sync chain by putting in a pairing code on secondary devices.
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I wish you could just log in to your perplexity account.
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That is a fascinatingly weird decision.
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It's so weird.
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Let's say I've created my sync chain.
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If I close a tab on one device or whatever, does it do it on the other one?
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Or do I have to sync chain it every time?
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I think you lost me.
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So, like, what are you doing with the sync chain?
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Like, what is happening?
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You're starting a sync chain on one device and then all the other devices need to follow that.
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So, you set the sync code on the first device and then everything else.
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So, you really want to start it on your Mac, assuming that you have Comet on your Mac with more bookmarks or more history.
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And then you want to pair the iPhone to that and then pair the iPad to that and so forth.
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And so, you know, like, if it changes I make on one device then, then I move to all of them?
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Why do they do it this way?
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Yeah, I don't know.
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Like, it seems like it just works like a regular sync.
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Like, why do you have to do this?
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Like, just let me log in with my account and let me set an encryption password like Google Chrome or something.
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I don't know.
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It's like syncing something with an iPad in 2011.
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What are we doing?
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Like, plugging it in and doing it through iTunes.
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The rest is, like, the big feature is, like, the Assistant.
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Like, in Comet on desktop, you have the Assistant, which can be used with text or it can be used with voice.
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So it has access to your tabs.
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You can ask questions about multiple tabs at once.
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You can have conversations with it.
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It's powered by the GPT real-time API, which is pretty good for real-time audio conversations.
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Or you can have the Agentic feature, which is the Browse for Me thing.
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Now, Browse for Me is on Android, is on the Mac, and it's also on iOS, but it behaves slightly different on iOS.
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So this is the feature where the Assistant in Comet takes over your browsing and does things on inside web pages, like it scrolls and it clicks items and, you know, operates virtually on your behalf inside of a web page.
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And it does work on iOS with a rather fascinating twist, which is it doesn't run on device.
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It creates an instance of Comet in the cloud.
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It temporarily transfers your browsing cookies from your current session on the iPhone to the cloud, browses in the cloud, sends you screenshots from the cloud, and then stops the session and theoretically gets rid of your cookies that were temporarily transferred.
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It's just a terrible way of doing it.
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I tested it.
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I tested it.
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Looks like I still haven't been hacked on Amazon, because I did test it with Amazon.
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It does work.
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It does work.
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I'm sure it works, right?
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I just think that is just not ideal, is it, really, as a way to do things?
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I am so curious to know why it was this way on iOS, because it's not like this on Android, even.
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On Android, it works just like on the Mac.
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You use agent mode, you see a blue highlight around the web page, and you see the agent sort of operating the web page in front of you.
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You don't see this, like, remote transfer thing.
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I wonder if it's, because at first I thought app review, but then, well, then they wouldn't allow you to do it at all, right?
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Like, if there was just this issue.
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Maybe it's something to do with the WebKit engine.
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Yeah, because isn't the other versions of this, like, based on Chromium?
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It is based on Chromium, and maybe it could be that Chromium has more, like, accessibility APIs that allow you to control.
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Or they just did not want to build this for WebKit.
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Yeah, I don't want this.
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Yeah, because what it seems is that it's transferring your cookies, and it's operating a Chromium instance in the cloud, because it sends you desktop screenshots that have a widescreen aspect ratio.
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I bet that they just didn't want to put the engineering effort into producing it.
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Can't we have other engines now, though?
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Isn't that a thing?
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Like, web browsers on the iPhone.
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They don't have to use WebKit anymore, or is that just in Europe?
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Well, just in Europe.
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Fair enough.
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So, anyway, I really do like Comet.
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I never use WebKit.
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I like, I kind of like the design of all perplexity things.
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I think they have some really excellent designers.
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And I realized, and I didn't know about this, that a bunch of their designers are coming from, some of them from the browser company, and others from Kraft.
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Not a surprise.
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They have great designers, I think.
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So, they make really polished interfaces, which I appreciate.
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I really like, so I never, never, basically never, ever use the browsing agent.
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I just really like having the integrated assistant for things like questions, like summarize this, or, you know, compare these two articles.
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What do they have in common?
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Like, it's more convenient than, it removes a tiny bit of friction from copying and pasting links from the browser to Claude, or to JADGPT.
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And I kind of like that everything is like in my perplexity account history.
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Like, all my searches, all the things.
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And it's the only company, well, of the two companies that have made an AI browser, OpenAI and Perplexity.
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Perplexity is the only one that, at the moment, ships a browser everywhere except for Linux, whereas OpenAI did Atlas on the Mac.
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And I guess it's abandonware at this point.
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There's also DIA, how could you forget?
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Well, DIA, yeah, but DIA is Mac only.
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Another Mac only thing, whereas Comet, you can get on the Mac, on Android, now iPhone and iPad, and Windows.
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So, I like the, like, I use it as my default browser everywhere.
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I, you know, I was debugging some Windows issues before on my gaming PC, I was using Comet.
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Like, I like that it's everywhere, and I like having the assistant built in.
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And in general, I like the Perplexity UI language.
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Everything they're doing lately is really interesting for me, especially Perplexity computer.
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Comet on iOS, it's out there.
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It's pretty nice.
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Maybe I just, just because I haven't spent any significant time with these browsers, I think, like, I just can't get my head around it yet.
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Like, I kind of feel like the web browser is for me to do the things that I know what I'm doing.
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And then I would go to an AI app to do the AI things.
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Like, you're saying, like, about having the assistant in the browser.
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Like, I just, I don't know.
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Maybe I'm just not in the headspace, but I just can't think of why, what I would do with it there, instead of just going to Claude or whatever and asking it a question.
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You know what I mean?
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Like, I think I've, I can't get, I haven't, I don't think I've yet put together why they would, why I would like them together.
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I think not having to switch apps is the first reason for a lot of people.
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I just don't think I'm doing it, though.
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Like, I'm in the browser and I'm like, oh, let me go ask ChatGPT a question.
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You know what I mean?
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Oh, because you're using ChatGPT from the browser.
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No, like, but I'm not.
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That's what I'm saying.
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Like, I don't, I can't think, maybe I have to pay attention to this.
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Like, I can't think of a scenario where I'm, like, in Safari and doing something.
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And I'm like, oh, I need to go ask ChatGPT about this.
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Interesting.
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Like, I feel like they're kind of separate work in my mind, I think, with the way that I consider them.
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Like, the things that I do with AI tools, I think maybe they're just very specific tasks right now.
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Something that I did last night, for example, I opened a bunch of reviews for the video game Crimson Desert.
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And I selected, like, five articles in comment.
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And I said, can you give me a list of all the opinions that all these reviewers have in common and all the cons, like, all the pros and cons that they have in common.
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And so that was a nice way to basically deal with five different URLs.
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But instead of copying and pasting them, I just selected all the tabs and asked the one question inside the browser.
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So that's sort of the idea.
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Yeah, see, I just don't think I'll think like that.
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Like, for me, with stuff like reviews, I just, I latch on to specific people who I vibe with, you know?
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And it's like, oh, and this is just me with reviews in general.
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Like, I don't, if, say, a game's coming out, I'll be like, right, I know that me and this person's taste align.
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What do they think?
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As opposed to, like, people I don't know or whatever from my outlets I don't really follow or whatever.
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I don't, I don't, I kind of keep that, I think, a little bit more personal.
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But I see the point that you're getting to of, like, if you had, like, say you were trying to buy a TV or whatever, right?
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And it's like, oh, go grab five tabs.
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To me, I think I would just go to ChatGPT and be like, I want a TV, you know?
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And then, like, let's have a conversation about TV time.
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That's, like, just a day away, I guess, until they get to do that.
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Yeah, I think I'm about where you are, Mike.
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The things that I use, I'm trying Claude right now, that I use it for are, feel like, okay, I'm doing this with this tool right now, and then I'm going to go browse.
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And I really can't wrap my head around the, I'm going to let it browse for me.
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I just, I just don't see the place in my life where, like, I need that to happen.
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Maybe I'm wrong.
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Maybe I'm behind the scenes, you know, behind the times, but it feels weird.
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I feel like, obviously, Federico, you are steps ahead, right?
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Because you pay much more attention to these tools.
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So I could imagine that maybe in a few months' time, it will click for me as to why I would want this.
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But it's just, I was like, I was reading, I can see that you enjoy it, and I understand it.
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But it's like, I think we just are approaching our workflows differently.
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That I don't, it doesn't even occur to me to do that, I think, which is interesting.
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It's cool that they made an iPhone app.
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So on Connected Pro, which is the longer, ad-free version of the show, we talked about the Galaxy Z Tri-Fold,
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but it's not the only foldable phone that we're going to talk about today.
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Federico, you alluded to this earlier, that you've been spending time with a foldable phone,
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and you have a bunch of super interesting thoughts.
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You've been using the Z Fold 7.
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Tell us what you've been up to.
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Yeah, so I started testing folding phones years ago.
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I believe I had a Z Fold 3, like five years ago or something.
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And over the years, I tried a bunch.
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I had a OnePlus open that I really liked.
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Then I tried the...
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I had a review unit for the Pixel 9 Pro Fold last year.
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Out of curiosity, over the Christmas break,
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I got a refurbished copy for super cheap of the first generation Pixel Fold.
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The Passport style one that will be kind of similar, but not quite what Apple is allegedly working on.
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And a couple of weeks ago, I got a Z Fold 7.
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And I've been sort of exploring the folding space for years,
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ever since the rumors of, you know, Apple, you know.
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First of all, because I wanted to understand, like,
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what is this concept of a phone that can transform into something else?
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I've always been for flexible devices that can be multiple things at once.
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And so, obviously, the whole concept of a folding phone speaks to me at a very basic level.
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But then when the rumors started that Apple was potentially also getting into this space,
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you know, my interest sort of showed up again.
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And it's also been quite informative as a tech writer to get to know Android better.
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Obviously, it helps that I'm using Android a bunch for gaming and for MPC.
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So, I am quite well-versed in Android at this point.
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But on the productivity side, I really wasn't.
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And so, using these foldable devices has been really, really useful for that.
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The Z Fold 7 is an interesting product.
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It feels very nice, I will say.
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Obviously, a premium device, really expensive device.
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I really like the camera system, which I mentioned before in the show.
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The thing that is common to all of these devices
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is that it's so nice to have a phone
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that feels like a regular phone,
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maybe slightly on the thicker side of a phone,
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on the outside.
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But then, whenever you're doing something
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that you wish you had a little bit more screen,
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to just open it up
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and have maybe a bigger YouTube video
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or taking a look at a bigger photo
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or using two apps at the same time.
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And this is where sort of the Android landscape gets wild
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because all of these companies,
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they have their own takes on multitasking
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and they have their own takes on multi-windowing.
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I really liked whatever OnePlus was doing with the Open,
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which they're not making the Open anymore for some reason,
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even though a bunch of people really liked it.
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And from my perspective,
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they had the most interesting sort of tablet UI for a folding phone
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called Open Canvas.
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That was a really, really interesting take on it.
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Essentially, basically sliding the user interface
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across multiple full-screen apps
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while also letting you use split-screen if you wanted to.
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Whereas it seems now that Samsung and Oppo,
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which I also mentioned before,
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Oppo, this Chinese manufacturer,
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came out with the Find N6,
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which is now widely regarded
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as the first crease-free Android folding phone.
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So you cannot see in most scenarios
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and you cannot feel the crease in the middle of the display.
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But both Samsung and Oppo
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are taking a more traditional approach, maybe.
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They let you do split-screen on screen.
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Split-screen has existed on Android forever.
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You can use two Android apps on a regular phone if you want to.
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Of course, on a folding phone,
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you can have vertical split-screen.
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You can have horizontal split-screen.
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Now, Samsung also lets you do floating windows
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that you can resize.
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And it's like kind of reminiscent
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of their own take-on slide-over, for example,
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where you can swipe from the edge,
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a toolbar comes up,
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you can customize this toolbar.
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It's like a second doc
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that contains a bunch of shortcuts
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for your favorite apps.
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You grab one of these icons,
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you drop it on either side of the screen,
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it creates a split-screen.
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You drop it in the middle,
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it creates a floating window.
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And that's useful for things like 1Password, for example.
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If you just want to drop it in,
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copy a bunch of, you know,
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like a username and a password,
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and then close it,
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that works pretty well.
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And so I am enjoying,
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like I've always enjoyed over the past few years,
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this idea of like,
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I have my regular phone,
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then when I'm on the couch,
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I open it up,
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I can read an article,
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I can watch some YouTube videos.
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Or, for example, Spotify,
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when you open up the Z Fold,
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Spotify takes on the same layout as on the iPad.
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So you've got the right column with now playing,
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and you can browse on the left.
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Where it gets really interesting with Samsung is DeX.
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So this is their desktop mode.
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Where you plug the phone into an external monitor,
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and on the external monitor,
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you get an extended display mode.
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It's like what it used to be with the iPad and Stage Manager.
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Like, you plug in a monitor,
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you get Stage Manager on the external monitor.
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And here you get freeform windowing.
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It's basically that.
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It's like a Chromebook.
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You plug the phone in,
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you get an Android desktop environment on the monitor.
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You can use an external keyboard,
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you can use an external mouse,
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you can use the phone as a virtual touchpad if you want to.
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And you have large tablet windows with desktop controls.
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So like X for closing the line for minimizing that kind of stuff.
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And I think it's both better and worse than iPadOS
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in some very specific ways.
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I think that Samsung is doing a much, much better job than Apple
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when it comes to showing you settings and controls
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at the bottom of the screen.
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On the external monitor,
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you get the equivalent of a Windows 11 taskbar.
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So Control Center,
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like you want to have access to those controls on the monitor,
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you can just click in the bottom right
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and you get the clock,
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you got, you know, wireless radios,
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now playing music controls, that kind of stuff.
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Whereas you can use Control Center
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on an iPad connected to an external display,
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but it's terrible.
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You have a basic version of Mission Control,
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which, weirdly enough, is mapped to Command Tab,
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whereas the Command Tab switcher is actually Option Tab.
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It's kind of weird.
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But you do have a version of Mission Control,
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so you get all of your open windows.
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You can see how many you have open in a workspace.
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The device gets really hot when using an external display.
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I mean, it's a phone, has a Snapdragon 8 Elite inside,
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but it gets really warm.
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And the things that Samsung is doing worse,
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some of those things are out of their control.
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Like, Android tablet apps just suck
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compared to iPad apps.
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It's a sad state of affairs
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and always has been for Android tablets.
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Some of those are better than others,
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like Notion kind of feels like Notion for iPad
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or Notion for desktop,
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but most of them are really phone apps
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blown up to a widescreen aspect ratio.
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They're not great.
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What Samsung is doing,
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it's all their fault,
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is whatever they're doing to deal with resolutions.
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By default, when I was plugging my device
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into my external monitor,
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I was not getting 4K support.
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I was getting 1080p,
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and I couldn't figure out why.
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Turns out that you have to go to the Samsung store,
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so not even the Google Play store,
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the Samsung store,
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and download what is considered to be
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like an official app
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for tweaking your Samsung experience
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called GoodLock.
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GoodLock, not GoodLock.
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GoodLock, which suggested to me
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that it's like, what,
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a lock screen customization thing?
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No, it customizes the entire system.
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And inside of that GoodLock application,
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you can download like plugins.
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They're called modules,
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but they're basically plugins.
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So you download an app,
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and then you have to go into the app
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to download a plugin,
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the plugin is called Multistar,
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for some reason.
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You go into this thing,
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and you have to enable...
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What is going on?
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Where are we?
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You go into this...
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So, you buy the Z Fold 7,
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you plug it into a monitor,
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you only get 1080p.
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Doesn't look great on a 4K monitor.
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It's very blurry.
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You have to open the Samsung store.
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You have to download an application
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from the Samsung store
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that is called GoodLock.
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But it's not actually about the lock screen.
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It's about customizing the system.
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You open this application,
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you download a plugin called Multistar.
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You go into the view of this plugin.
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You have to flip a toggle
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that says enable higher resolutions.
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Then, when you plug in your phone
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into the monitor,
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But you get 4K 60,
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only if you go USB-C to HDMI.
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If you go USB-C to USB-C,
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you get 4K at 30 hertz.
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I spent a whole afternoon
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trying to figure this out.
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So, but this is what you get with Android, right?
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You don't get...
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This to me is the perfect example
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of the Apple experience
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versus the Android experience.
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If you try hard enough on Android,
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you can eventually find a solution.
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The reality is that
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you buy an iPad Pro,
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you plug it into a USB-C to USB-C cable,
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and you get 4K 120 on an external display.
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And that's it.
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So, you know,
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two very different philosophies going on here.
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I'm looking at screenshots.
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I found a version of this app on the Play Store.
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Maybe it doesn't have the thing that you want in there.
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Maybe the Samsung Store has different ones.
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No, it looks the same.
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So, I guess it's also on the Google Play Store.
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The categories of utilities...
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It's made by Samsung.
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Unbelievable.
00:50:54
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It's gestures, extensions, make-up, life-up.
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I believe that Multistar
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lives inside a category called...
00:51:05
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And I swear this is not me joking.
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The category is called Home Up.
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This, to me, feels like just straight,
00:51:15
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like, one-to-one Korean to English.
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Yeah, probably.
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Like, including why it's called Good Lock.
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Like, there's just...
00:51:25
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The localization is,
00:51:26
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can we just make this English?
00:51:29
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if you remove the two different design philosophies
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and all of that,
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there is a core of something interesting going on,
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which is the idea that you have a folding phone,
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and when you plug it into a monitor,
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it gets you a quasi-desktop environment.
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That is really, really interesting.
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And I got...
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I can work on this thing.
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I do use it for regular work
00:51:57
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that involves Slack, Notion, email,
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browsing the web.
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Like, you can use it.
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It's rather fascinating.
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And it works pretty well
00:52:04
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after all the tweaking
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and the fiddling with settings.
00:52:07
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That's an interesting idea.
00:52:10
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And it's also exactly
00:52:12
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what I don't think
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that Apple will do
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with their iPhone fold.
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I absolutely...
00:52:18
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more than happy
00:52:21
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to be proven wrong by Apple,
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but I will say 95%
00:52:26
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that Apple is not going to do this.
00:52:29
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because Apple's in the business
00:52:31
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of selling you a phone
00:52:33
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and a laptop, right?
00:52:35
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And it's interesting
00:52:36
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because the MacBook Neo
00:52:38
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has played into this conversation
00:52:40
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a little bit.
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oh, it's just a phone running macOS.
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Like, you know,
00:52:43
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people want to, like,
00:52:45
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swap around Apple's hardware
00:52:47
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and operating systems,
00:52:47
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and I get that to a degree.
00:52:49
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But this sort of product
00:52:52
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doesn't fit into Apple's
00:52:54
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larger business.
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And even with Samsung,
00:52:59
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I can't imagine
00:53:00
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that a lot of people...
00:53:02
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Like, what percentage of people
00:53:03
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with a phone that can do this
00:53:05
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do this, right?
00:53:06
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The hoops you had to jump through.
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There's a whole community
00:53:10
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of weirdos on...
00:53:11
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Absolutely lovable weirdos
00:53:15
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Let me tell you guys
00:53:16
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about this whole sub...
00:53:18
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This whole sub-market
00:53:22
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of so-called lap dogs.
00:53:27
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Say that again?
00:53:32
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They are laptops
00:53:33
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without a computer inside.
00:53:34
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You plug your phone
00:53:36
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and you get Dex
00:53:39
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on a laptop.
00:53:40
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There's no computer.
00:53:41
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It's just a monitor
00:53:42
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with a keyboard
00:53:43
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and trackpad attached.
00:53:45
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made one of these.
00:53:47
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Didn't Bridge
00:53:48
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make one of these?
00:53:51
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HP, I think,
00:53:52
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made one years ago.
00:53:54
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There are two popular ones
00:53:59
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and the Uperfect
00:54:00
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something, something.
00:54:02
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NextDoc is what I'm thinking of.
00:54:05
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But yeah, I mean,
00:54:07
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it's a niche
00:54:08
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of a niche, right?
00:54:09
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But, I mean,
00:54:12
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look, if you ask me,
00:54:13
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especially now,
00:54:14
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in a post-MacBook Neo
00:54:18
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I gotta be honest.
00:54:20
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if I think of a dream
00:54:23
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Apple product,
00:54:25
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money is not an issue, right?
00:54:28
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In this imagination exercise.
00:54:33
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It's a folding phone.
00:54:35
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That is a phone.
00:54:37
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You open it up,
00:54:37
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it's a tablet.
00:54:38
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You plug it into a monitor,
00:54:39
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you get macOS.
00:54:40
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Are you getting it?
00:54:43
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money is not an issue.
00:54:46
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That is the dream product
00:54:47
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for me right now
00:54:48
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►
because we have seen,
00:54:49
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so, first of all,
00:54:50
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in September, I guess,
00:54:51
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we'll see that Apple
00:54:52
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can make a folding phone.
00:54:53
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So, that's both a phone
00:54:54
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and a tablet,
00:54:56
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when you open it up.
00:54:58
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that they are capable
00:54:59
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of letting you use
00:55:01
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macOS based on a phone chip.
00:55:02
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So, if you ask me right now,
00:55:04
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what's your dream Apple product?
00:55:05
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It's the three products in one.
00:55:07
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But they will never make it.
00:55:10
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things are going to get awkward now
00:55:12
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because the Neo exists, right?
00:55:14
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It is going to make conversations
00:55:15
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►
like this more and more awkward.
00:55:17
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it's already coming for the iPad,
00:55:19
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that creeping,
00:55:21
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why can't I just also run macOS
00:55:23
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when I want to?
00:55:24
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And this is absolutely capable
00:55:26
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of me doing it.
00:55:27
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And now we're into,
00:55:29
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the iPhone is also possible
00:55:31
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a full macOS experience.
00:55:33
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And if I have a one terabyte iPhone,
00:55:35
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why can't I have both operating systems?
00:55:37
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How far away are we
00:55:40
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before people start,
00:55:41
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reverse engineering macOS
00:55:43
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►
onto iPhones now?
00:55:45
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I think there's a lot of
00:55:46
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OS security stuff
00:55:47
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that makes that
00:55:48
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very difficult.
00:55:49
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Like, basically impossible?
00:55:52
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But you're right.
00:55:55
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theoretically,
00:55:58
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that the hardware could do it,
00:56:00
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►
The M1 iPad Pro
00:56:03
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►
this is literally the same chip,
00:56:05
◼
►
That's in the Mac and the iPad.
00:56:06
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►
And now we have an iPhone chip
00:56:09
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►
Apple has broken down
00:56:11
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►
those walls hardware-wise,
00:56:13
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►
and that's a testament
00:56:13
◼
►
to Apple Silicon
00:56:14
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►
more than anything else.
00:56:16
◼
►
but now they have
00:56:17
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►
the walls that are left
00:56:19
◼
►
these are software choices,
00:56:24
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►
that's going to get even worse
00:56:25
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►
with a touchscreen Mac,
00:56:27
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►
potentially coming
00:56:28
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at the end of the year.
00:56:29
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Prepare for more of this.
00:56:33
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I don't see Apple
00:56:34
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►
going down this road.
00:56:35
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►
I think it would be cool.
00:56:37
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►
is it kind of
00:56:37
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the dream of the future
00:56:38
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►
to have like one device
00:56:40
◼
►
that does everything
00:56:42
◼
►
in your life?
00:56:44
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►
that is potentially
00:56:45
◼
►
very interesting
00:56:46
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►
and compelling,
00:56:47
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►
but it doesn't make sense
00:56:50
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►
and their current business.
00:56:52
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►
Or if you want
00:56:53
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►
a downstairs computer.
00:56:55
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►
Downstairs foldable.
00:56:56
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►
Downstairs foldable
00:56:57
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►
or upstairs foldable.
00:56:58
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►
That's right.
00:56:59
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►
We should wrap up
00:57:06
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►
with some very exciting
00:57:07
◼
►
product news.
00:57:10
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►
AirPods Max 2
00:57:19
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►
didn't we already
00:57:20
◼
►
have this product?
00:57:21
◼
►
I was convinced
00:57:23
◼
►
AirPods Max 2.
00:57:25
◼
►
Because they added
00:57:26
◼
►
USB-C, right?
00:57:26
◼
►
you had AirPods Max
00:57:29
◼
►
is what you had.
00:57:30
◼
►
you didn't know that,
00:57:31
◼
►
which is unfortunate,
00:57:36
◼
►
Is anybody excited
00:57:40
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►
because this is,
00:57:41
◼
►
they should have done
00:57:42
◼
►
this a long time ago,
00:57:44
◼
►
This product should not
00:57:46
◼
►
have been left behind
00:57:47
◼
►
for as long as it was
00:57:48
◼
►
left behind.
00:57:50
◼
►
because there are features
00:57:51
◼
►
that AirPods Pro 2
00:57:52
◼
►
had that this did not
00:57:54
◼
►
have, right?
00:57:56
◼
►
adaptive audio,
00:57:57
◼
►
conversation awareness,
00:57:58
◼
►
live translation,
00:58:00
◼
►
these features were never
00:58:03
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►
added to the Max.
00:58:04
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►
Then they revised the Max
00:58:06
◼
►
and didn't add any
00:58:08
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►
of the stuff,
00:58:09
◼
►
Because they did not
00:58:10
◼
►
update the chip.
00:58:11
◼
►
And now they have
00:58:12
◼
►
finally revised it
00:58:13
◼
►
with the chip,
00:58:14
◼
►
but they haven't done
00:58:15
◼
►
anything to the hardware,
00:58:16
◼
►
which also needs work.
00:58:18
◼
►
all the annoyances
00:58:19
◼
►
of the initial version
00:58:23
◼
►
it's all the same.
00:58:25
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►
And the cost.
00:58:26
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►
these are so expensive.
00:58:28
◼
►
didn't take any
00:58:30
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►
of that feedback.
00:58:31
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►
And it's like,
00:58:31
◼
►
it's literally a spec
00:58:34
◼
►
and at least they're
00:58:35
◼
►
still paying attention
00:58:36
◼
►
but I feel like at least...
00:58:39
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►
Not after all this time.
00:58:40
◼
►
Not after all this time.
00:58:42
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►
They had to do more.
00:58:43
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►
They know what people
00:58:44
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►
say about these things,
00:58:46
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►
Because I feel like
00:58:46
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►
the criticism of these
00:58:48
◼
►
was fairly universal.
00:58:50
◼
►
even if the weight
00:58:51
◼
►
didn't bother you
00:58:52
◼
►
it was easy to see
00:58:53
◼
►
they were heavier
00:58:53
◼
►
than anything else.
00:58:57
◼
►
everyone disliked
00:58:59
◼
►
and they weren't
00:59:01
◼
►
we talked about
00:59:01
◼
►
this when they
00:59:02
◼
►
Some of the other
00:59:04
◼
►
products in this
00:59:04
◼
►
category fold up
00:59:06
◼
►
nicely to like put
00:59:08
◼
►
on an airplane.
00:59:08
◼
►
And these things
00:59:11
◼
►
They're bulky,
00:59:11
◼
►
the case is bad.
00:59:12
◼
►
All of that felt
00:59:14
◼
►
pretty universal
00:59:15
◼
►
and Apple was like,
00:59:16
◼
►
we're just gonna
00:59:17
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►
put the H2 in it.
00:59:18
◼
►
It hurts me.
00:59:20
◼
►
it's a bummer.
00:59:21
◼
►
Because they're
00:59:22
◼
►
great headphones.
00:59:23
◼
►
they sound great.
00:59:25
◼
►
I do find them
00:59:26
◼
►
comfortable when
00:59:26
◼
►
I'm wearing them.
00:59:27
◼
►
I love the two
00:59:29
◼
►
like the physical
00:59:30
◼
►
buttons that it
00:59:31
◼
►
they're fantastic
00:59:32
◼
►
for traveling.
00:59:33
◼
►
And I see them.
00:59:36
◼
►
I see them out
00:59:36
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►
in the world.
00:59:37
◼
►
I'm sure you two
00:59:39
◼
►
I see people
00:59:40
◼
►
wearing them,
00:59:40
◼
►
which is always
00:59:41
◼
►
a surprise to me.
00:59:42
◼
►
Because they look
00:59:43
◼
►
they're good
00:59:44
◼
►
looking headphones,
00:59:47
◼
►
have liked to
00:59:47
◼
►
have seen them
00:59:48
◼
►
take a second
00:59:49
◼
►
crack at this
00:59:50
◼
►
with everything
00:59:52
◼
►
that they know
00:59:54
◼
►
years that this
00:59:55
◼
►
product has been
00:59:56
◼
►
But they have
00:59:58
◼
►
not done that.
00:59:58
◼
►
And I find that
00:59:59
◼
►
disappointing.
01:00:00
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►
But I'm also at
01:00:02
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►
the point where
01:00:02
◼
►
I'm super happy
01:00:03
◼
►
that the AirPods
01:00:04
◼
►
Pro 3 are as
01:00:05
◼
►
good as they
01:00:06
◼
►
are for travel
01:00:07
◼
►
the last time
01:00:10
◼
►
wearing them
01:00:11
◼
►
right when I was
01:00:12
◼
►
from Memphis.
01:00:13
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►
And the noise
01:00:15
◼
►
cancellation was
01:00:17
◼
►
I could just
01:00:17
◼
►
wear those now.
01:00:19
◼
►
need to have
01:00:20
◼
►
overrears to
01:00:22
◼
►
get what I want
01:00:23
◼
►
from a plane
01:00:24
◼
►
viewing experience,
01:00:25
◼
►
which is the
01:00:25
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►
main reason I
01:00:26
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►
had the Max's.
01:00:27
◼
►
That reminds me,
01:00:28
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►
I was going to
01:00:36
◼
►
backup pair.
01:00:36
◼
►
They were on
01:00:42
◼
►
battery life
01:00:43
◼
►
original AirPods
01:00:45
◼
►
getting pretty
01:00:49
◼
►
doesn't stay
01:00:52
◼
►
listening to
01:00:53
◼
►
something and
01:00:53
◼
►
it just drops
01:00:56
◼
►
you've put the
01:00:57
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►
speakers, you
01:00:57
◼
►
headphone back
01:00:58
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►
in the case.
01:01:03
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►
Like, there's
01:01:08
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one, mostly.
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don't want to
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threes again
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backed into a
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this product in
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a way that I
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This is exactly
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know people do
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it like, you
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know, something
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that you love
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stockpile on
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limited supply
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scenarios, I'm
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just going to
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go find some
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other headphones
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another brand
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deal with the
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stress of what
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you're currently
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dealing with.
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Beats products
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Because they
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closest, right?
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Yeah, maybe I
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could bring my
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wife on, you
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professional
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Those are the
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ones with the
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over the ear
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little hook.
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try those, but
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yeah, maybe I
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try whatever
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trying to find
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Where are they
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probably the
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Fit is probably
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what you want
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for the most
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they've got the
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little wingtip.
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They come in
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give these a
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report back.
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have transparency
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know how good
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it's going to
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whatever the
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combined mode
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Adaptive, which
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is pretty good.
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tricky spot.
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Frederico, what
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earbuds do you
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use right now?
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not like them
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am I thinking
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of something
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I didn't like
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regulars, didn't
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Yeah, I went
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to AirPods 4.
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like the Pro
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3, actually.
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testing them
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mean, they're
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very similar.
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slightly more
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impressive on
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the Buds 4 Pro
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than the AirPods
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They're a bit,
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like, I really
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love the bass
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compact case.
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really nice.
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very similar
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matter of life
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and death for
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some reason,
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like, holding
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point and be
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like, choose
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Little Finder
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comes in with
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Little Finder
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comes in with
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this new gun.
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Beats Studio
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And they come
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in the transparent,
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but I don't,
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they're kind of
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like the Google
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it all sits up
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in your ear.
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That looks a bit
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strange to me.
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What I'm probably
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going to do is
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just ride these
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out until they
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actually die
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something out.
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It's disappointing.
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Or you could
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just buy some
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I tried them
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when they first
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really didn't
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work for me.
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I just kind of
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get around it.
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events because
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basketball players
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during warm-up
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listening to
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which I can't
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imagine running
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around playing
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basketball with
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headphones on
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strong necks.
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They've been
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training for it.
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You know what
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to find links
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to things we
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they are online
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