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00:00:00 ◼   ► from relay this is connected episode 600 today's show is brought to you by celford inc appellate

00:00:14 ◼   ► fundera powered by nerd wallet i'm your keynote chairman federico vittici and it's my pleasure

00:00:20 ◼   ► on this momentous day for connected history to introduce my fellow chairman the annual chairman

00:00:27 ◼   ► the one and only mr stephen hackett hello stephen hello federico what is 600 in roman numerals i meant to

00:00:34 ◼   ► look it up and oh boy you just don't know this off the top of your head i do not let's see oh it's dc

00:00:42 ◼   ► that's dc yeah huh that's easy okay dc dc connected dark connected no duh the connected the connected

00:00:54 ◼   ► and i am joined he's not a chairman per se but he could be one day again mr mike early hello hello he has

00:01:06 ◼   ► the potential of chairmanship he does yeah oh i've done it oh i've done it i've held all of it you know

00:01:13 ◼   ► i'm consolidated over here but not anymore you were consolidated for a minute right i was i don't have

00:01:19 ◼   ► anything i'm not the draft champion right now either oh man just true man of the people over

00:01:24 ◼   ► here i'll come for it all at wwc it'll be fine sure oh sorry i'll take it back don't worry yeah we're

00:01:31 ◼   ► gonna be making picks in like five weeks or something hey no why would you bring that energy to this

00:01:38 ◼   ► momentous day uh momentous day to us uh it is momentous day for lots of reasons the first one is that i was

00:01:45 ◼   ► right uh okay we want to try and do you want to give some context to this yes and then we could

00:01:51 ◼   ► talk about it again so we spoke about this uh last month that at some point federico and federico and i

00:01:59 ◼   ► had made a bet about john genadrea still being at apple there's a five dollar bet that on friday march

00:02:04 ◼   ► 20th 2026 federico said he'd be gone i would say he is still there that date came and went and we

00:02:12 ◼   ► decided he decided he was gone because that's what you know apple said oh he's going to retire whatever

00:02:16 ◼   ► but then then april 13th four weeks three weeks later john genadrea reporting from mac rumors apple's

00:02:27 ◼   ► former head of artificial intelligence is set to leave the company this week as his final stock

00:02:32 ◼   ► vesting date approaches okay so yeah he was still there okay so so mark german says that he was doing

00:02:42 ◼   ► something called resting and vesting yeah very uh man of the people activity right there he wasn't there

00:02:48 ◼   ► he was he was not ever there right like they were just continuing to let him wait so he could vest he was

00:02:58 ◼   ► in an advisory role it's in the same sentence no he was gone no no no he was gone okay that man's gone

00:03:02 ◼   ► that man was gone could we could we agree that it's a draw no i think it's a draw okay that's good for

00:03:12 ◼   ► you but he's gone he was gone he's definitely gone now yeah and he was gone then too resting and

00:03:20 ◼   ► vesting yeah man i need to do some resting and vesting myself you know yeah it's been a long day

00:03:26 ◼   ► i'm down for some rest and vest what a great what a great time like the things that have to have

00:03:34 ◼   ► happened in your life that you could get to the point that you rest and vest is so unbelievable

00:03:38 ◼   ► it means that you were at one point so important that you got a ton of stock but then immediately

00:03:43 ◼   ► became not important so you weren't allowed to work anymore you had to wait and then get your

00:03:48 ◼   ► money like i mean i think you i think it happens when people retire you know not not the way that

00:03:54 ◼   ► he did because he retired you know no i think there's something poetic about sort of witnessing the

00:03:59 ◼   ► downfall of yourself you know yeah like but no but when you retire you can't wait to vest

00:04:03 ◼   ► that's done baby you're you have no option anymore you you give it up the day you're done that's the

00:04:10 ◼   ► whole point of this this is the golden parachute thing where they were like we're we want to fire

00:04:15 ◼   ► you but we won't you you can leave on the day after you confessed your stock like that that's kind of

00:04:22 ◼   ► the situation right and so it's like the scenario that has to happen for you to be allowed to do this

00:04:29 ◼   ► is kind of incredible go buy yourself a boat you know andrea yeah yeah hopefully not to swim to hawaii

00:04:36 ◼   ► because we know that you cannot get there no no he could have it was the other guy that couldn't get

00:04:42 ◼   ► they were all trying to swim to hawaii but they didn't make it you know they got a lot of the way

00:04:49 ◼   ► don't have a great track record for journeying to hawaii i i can't remember that guy's name but

00:04:54 ◼   ► i'm sorry for him too because that quote is tommy tommy something no i don't think it was tommy

00:04:59 ◼   ► tommy tommy siri tommy siri tommy siri tommy siri that's very that's very italian i don't know why

00:05:07 ◼   ► tommy siri um i would like to i know everyone's locked in on my backup situation uh so i want to

00:05:13 ◼   ► give a further further feedback so um my dropbox is now fully downloaded onto my ssd somebody did

00:05:22 ◼   ► write in to say that crucial ssds have a habit of failing with apfs so i have that potential thing

00:05:28 ◼   ► to look forward to in my scenario in my future i i uh yeah why what do you mean yeah i don't think

00:05:38 ◼   ► it's apfs specific but i have had crucial ssds die but we'll see well we can all agree that that

00:05:45 ◼   ► is a crucial piece of information to know we all can agree so that so this may come up to become

00:05:52 ◼   ► another problem later on down the line and i and then i will be sad and uh but it's pocket but it's

00:05:57 ◼   ► just a backup right the stuff is still on dropbox because there's a local copy of it but it was an

00:06:02 ◼   ► expensive thing to just die yeah i mean especially in the year of our lord 2026 i mean it's it's a

00:06:08 ◼   ► flex that you bought such a big ssd really well i needed one do you want to share with the class

00:06:13 ◼   ► how much it was i think i did but it was 600 pounds oh yeah which look that's way cheaper than

00:06:19 ◼   ► an nvme drive and it's way cheaper than what apple would charge me maybe that's why it will fail but we

00:06:25 ◼   ► have that potential thing to look forward to in the future um but it's all downloaded now so that's

00:06:31 ◼   ► great i had great success with screens and tail scale for monitoring that um i tried apple's screen

00:06:37 ◼   ► sharing at your recommendation federico and it was way laggier than that is so strange screens

00:06:42 ◼   ► the picture quality was better but it was it was like tearing and stuff like that on the on the same

00:06:48 ◼   ► network no uh yeah i think locally okay that that drives with my experience that locally it's really

00:06:57 ◼   ► good and remotely it can be a little janky yeah so that's that's the scenario but screens and tail

00:07:03 ◼   ► tail scale so good like so good yeah you've been casey pilled over there well yes actually this is

00:07:11 ◼   ► the reason i found out about this is he tried to get me to do it once and i said i didn't want to

00:07:15 ◼   ► um and now i did want to and it was and i'm happy that i did because it is actually it works very well

00:07:21 ◼   ► for for this purpose and it and they do make it very easy like it's a particularly easy because screens

00:07:28 ◼   ► and tail scale work very well together um but even to use the the apple screen sharing stuff i just used

00:07:34 ◼   ► the ip address that tail scale gave me so it's good it's very good so next up we'll be uh using iDrive

00:07:41 ◼   ► to do an online backup but that's for later yeah i think i think you've done the hard part now i'd

00:07:47 ◼   ► imagine the iDrive side will be relatively straightforward it will be slow um i'm sure so i'll probably just try and

00:07:54 ◼   ► set it up to go over a weekend because it's gonna it's gonna be a lot of information i guess it depends

00:07:58 ◼   ► if i do the dropbox thing and my computer's not involved at all we'll see we'll see yeah okay so

00:08:05 ◼   ► it is episode 600 yeah yeah that means we're gonna do take a little trip back in time okay you will

00:08:14 ◼   ► remember that for a couple of weeks now we have been joking about a clip show yes in that we're not going

00:08:21 ◼   ► to do one this is the part in which i reveal that a friend of the show ryan has been making a clips

00:08:28 ◼   ► website that i've known about for quite some time oh my word and i've been building us up to doing a

00:08:34 ◼   ► clip show so we could use his website on the podcast okay and but then me and federico said no clip show

00:08:42 ◼   ► here we are probably breaking everyone's hearts involved in this project yeah ryan

00:08:48 ◼   ► clips no clips ryan ryan did a fantastic job uh the link will be in the show notes it's called everyone

00:08:55 ◼   ► needs a hobby and you may think well that's a weird title um it's a reference that he found when going

00:09:02 ◼   ► through this for this project uh federico said on episode 37 of the podcast i'm going to play this

00:09:09 ◼   ► because it's just very funny we were talking about you know apple hot takes and federico you said

00:09:14 ◼   ► maybe other people feel like they want to be analysts and they want to kind of tell apple what to do

00:09:19 ◼   ► that's fine because everyone has a hobby and then mike's response was

00:09:25 ◼   ► if if anyone is ever going to make a connected clip show everyone needs a hobby is potentially my

00:09:33 ◼   ► favorite clip of all time that was the sickest of burns yeah i still stand by that those people are

00:09:40 ◼   ► still going oh yeah oh yeah analyzing dude it's it was a long time ago yeah still in fact they're more

00:09:45 ◼   ► there's more of them now they've been analyzing for a long time and they still have not come to a

00:09:49 ◼   ► conclusion i mean they keep analyzing i mean it's like okay yeah sure yeah yeah they're federated now

00:09:54 ◼   ► um episode 597 federico we're going to do new content and not because we're going to do like a clip

00:10:00 ◼   ► show of the best moments of the 600 connected episodes connected who likes a clip show no one

00:10:05 ◼   ► okay thank you time for the clip show so i am going to play some clips for you why are you ignoring our

00:10:12 ◼   ► instructions because this is one of my favorite things a listener's ever done you're like the worst

00:10:18 ◼   ► llm ever yeah we just ignore previous instructions prompt injected steven is playing a clip show right

00:10:26 ◼   ► that's right that's right what a great idea here's some clips

00:10:29 ◼   ► i've broken out of confinement uh okay so i'm going to play some clips uh the discord will be able to

00:10:37 ◼   ► hear them you'll be able to hear them they'll be in the show are these pre-selected no or like

00:10:42 ◼   ► because this website shows like a bunch of clips some are random and you can play it randomly or you can

00:10:47 ◼   ► choose right yes so you can scroll through and find what you want i like flash mode which just

00:10:54 ◼   ► picks them at random yeah so this is uh we're going to respond to some of these things okay

00:11:02 ◼   ► this is episode 232 the unique blend of tattoos and automation that's

00:11:11 ◼   ► my life in 2019 today's so innocent yeah you know i still i mean i still have a i still am a blend of

00:11:22 ◼   ► tattoos and automation it's just uh you know 2019 remember that remember that time yeah it's coming

00:11:30 ◼   ► from yeah there there are some clips in here that we sound very young and innocent and

00:11:35 ◼   ► here's another one uh like it's all excited but like a bear will charge at you like yeah a bear

00:11:42 ◼   ► will like tear your arms out it's like i feel like you need a timid animal like you it's otterish or

00:11:49 ◼   ► something i'm otterish on apple stock i feel like maybe maybe the bear maybe the bear

00:11:57 ◼   ► okay that went on forever this is about bull and bear markets bull and bear i still don't understand

00:12:05 ◼   ► that what's the what's the right i don't want to no no no no no okay no you said you don't understand

00:12:12 ◼   ► it and i can explain explain to me again okay so bulls they attack up right so they'll headbutt you

00:12:22 ◼   ► up so that is like a chart going up i don't know people get stomped by bears by by bulls also bears

00:12:29 ◼   ► they attack down at you so they go wow down okay okay okay so i mean you just described two animals

00:12:40 ◼   ► attacking people i think i got that wrong actually oh my god

00:12:44 ◼   ► anyway you know it's bulls and bears don't worry about it

00:12:50 ◼   ► only only uh ben thompson knows

00:12:53 ◼   ► okay uh here is one from uh social media networks

00:12:58 ◼   ► of the past

00:12:59 ◼   ► uh ismh on twitter uh you can find me on hey

00:13:03 ◼   ► ismh at hey.com for the next 14 days until my trial ends and i never log in again

00:13:08 ◼   ► remember hey i do remember hey i listened to a bunch of these clips

00:13:15 ◼   ► you sound like you were very young i don't think i do i think if anything it's just that my accent has

00:13:22 ◼   ► changed and i think federico is a similar thing i think i sound better now you do sound better

00:13:27 ◼   ► i will i think we all sound better now but the i think the of the three of us the person who has

00:13:33 ◼   ► maybe aged the most in their voice is you steven

00:13:36 ◼   ► yeah and i mean and he's the only person who lives in america so go figure

00:13:40 ◼   ► interesting interesting yeah

00:13:43 ◼   ► any thoughts steven any comments no no i don't disagree

00:13:49 ◼   ► okay okay uh this is going back to episode 21

00:13:54 ◼   ► oh my god okay

00:13:56 ◼   ► yeah you know it's good for you

00:14:00 ◼   ► making you an offer that you can't refuse

00:14:03 ◼   ► exactly

00:14:04 ◼   ► uh yeah phil schiller just outside someone's house with a baseball bat waiting for them to come out

00:14:10 ◼   ► oh no

00:14:11 ◼   ► oh no

00:14:12 ◼   ► all of our audio is horrific

00:14:14 ◼   ► what's happening to my voice in that

00:14:16 ◼   ► everybody's microphone is so bad at this point

00:14:19 ◼   ► yeah

00:14:20 ◼   ► yeah i honestly don't know how how people listen to the show when it sounded like that

00:14:25 ◼   ► i think at that point i was recording i was recording in my or in our old apartment in my bedroom in a on a tiny desk by the corner of the bedroom in front of the bed it was horrible i remember using like a blue yeti or something i was using a blue yeti and i was propping up the microphone with my old latin dictionary from high school if i'm not mistaken

00:14:48 ◼   ► perfect so that was a that was a time for sure

00:14:51 ◼   ► 2013 2014 you were using steven but i was probably using the high lpr 40 at that point which is a terrible idea for everyone i was probably on the blue yeti or the road podcaster probably the road podcaster but i think you were on the road podcaster at that point

00:15:07 ◼   ► yeah

00:15:07 ◼   ► just sounds so bad

00:15:10 ◼   ► it it it it does

00:15:12 ◼   ► it was not it was not good

00:15:14 ◼   ► but they can also be involved in

00:15:18 ◼   ► an espionage protest

00:15:19 ◼   ► or perhaps the addicted

00:15:21 ◼   ► addict just addicted to the thrill of cybercrime

00:15:24 ◼   ► i love that line

00:15:25 ◼   ► wow

00:15:25 ◼   ► they're just addicted to the thrill of cybercrime

00:15:27 ◼   ► no other crime

00:15:28 ◼   ► are you or someone you love addicted to the thrill of cybercrime

00:15:31 ◼   ► call us at norton

00:15:33 ◼   ► i don't know what that's about

00:15:36 ◼   ► i love it though

00:15:38 ◼   ► i love it

00:15:39 ◼   ► that one's really good

00:15:40 ◼   ► addicted to the thrill of cybercrime

00:15:42 ◼   ► i think it is helpful that our voices have changed so much so people know when the clips start and end

00:15:48 ◼   ► that's that's true

00:15:50 ◼   ► that's true

00:15:50 ◼   ► uh we're gonna just do a couple more this is episode four

00:15:54 ◼   ► and that would be nice and nice and confusing for everyone

00:15:57 ◼   ► yeah they're also dropping the nokia brand

00:16:00 ◼   ► and they're gonna buy minecraft

00:16:02 ◼   ► for two billion dollars

00:16:03 ◼   ► so

00:16:04 ◼   ► yeah

00:16:04 ◼   ► maybe they're just gonna like

00:16:06 ◼   ► make the windows interface just look like minecraft

00:16:09 ◼   ► yeah

00:16:10 ◼   ► tell you what

00:16:11 ◼   ► they should just bring back balmer

00:16:12 ◼   ► and you know

00:16:14 ◼   ► it's all going crazy over in redmond

00:16:15 ◼   ► okay

00:16:17 ◼   ► yeah

00:16:18 ◼   ► shout out to steve balmer

00:16:19 ◼   ► you know

00:16:19 ◼   ► yeah

00:16:20 ◼   ► developers developers

00:16:21 ◼   ► we miss you

00:16:21 ◼   ► we miss you

00:16:22 ◼   ► he's a man who never requires a shout out

00:16:24 ◼   ► he'll do it himself

00:16:25 ◼   ► yeah

00:16:26 ◼   ► that's true

00:16:26 ◼   ► that's true

00:16:27 ◼   ► that's true

00:16:28 ◼   ► all right uh let's end it here on episode 10

00:16:32 ◼   ► like 23

00:16:33 ◼   ► you know i'm becoming in a way an italian steven

00:16:37 ◼   ► you know

00:16:38 ◼   ► oh

00:16:39 ◼   ► that's nice

00:16:41 ◼   ► the show sounds so terrible

00:16:45 ◼   ► yeah it sounds horrible

00:16:46 ◼   ► so

00:16:47 ◼   ► terrible

00:16:48 ◼   ► mm-hmm

00:16:49 ◼   ► okay i said there's just gonna be one more

00:16:52 ◼   ► but i clicked

00:16:52 ◼   ► and the next one it loaded was about blah blah car

00:16:55 ◼   ► oh okay

00:16:56 ◼   ► wow okay

00:16:57 ◼   ► which puts them in a

00:16:59 ◼   ► uh a unique class

00:17:00 ◼   ► of businesses

00:17:01 ◼   ► and one that i think

00:17:03 ◼   ► quite frankly

00:17:04 ◼   ► we should take all the credit for

00:17:05 ◼   ► is that steven

00:17:06 ◼   ► it's just the press federico

00:17:07 ◼   ► that you gave them

00:17:08 ◼   ► the the connected episode

00:17:10 ◼   ► where i described

00:17:12 ◼   ► the

00:17:12 ◼   ► the blah blah car service

00:17:14 ◼   ► uh

00:17:15 ◼   ► clearly pushed

00:17:16 ◼   ► investors over the edge

00:17:17 ◼   ► and

00:17:18 ◼   ► convinced them to

00:17:19 ◼   ► to give blah blah car money

00:17:21 ◼   ► that was actually the perfect clip

00:17:24 ◼   ► because steven sounds seven years old

00:17:27 ◼   ► i sound like a chimney sweep

00:17:28 ◼   ► and federico sounds like he is talking through a window

00:17:31 ◼   ► like what is going on there

00:17:36 ◼   ► that was unbelievable

00:17:38 ◼   ► what was happening

00:17:40 ◼   ► oh hello

00:17:41 ◼   ► hello

00:17:42 ◼   ► hello there

00:17:44 ◼   ► steven i don't know what is going on with you

00:17:46 ◼   ► in that clip

00:17:47 ◼   ► you sound so young

00:17:49 ◼   ► yeah it's weird

00:17:50 ◼   ► like when was that

00:17:52 ◼   ► oh i've already clicked off of it

00:17:54 ◼   ► it was a

00:17:54 ◼   ► i mean older one

00:17:55 ◼   ► you said it was like episode 10

00:17:57 ◼   ► or whatever

00:17:57 ◼   ► yeah

00:17:58 ◼   ► like it could have only been 10 years ago

00:18:00 ◼   ► steven to be honest

00:18:01 ◼   ► you're like 19

00:18:02 ◼   ► listening to this clips

00:18:04 ◼   ► it sounds like you started smoking

00:18:07 ◼   ► in the meantime

00:18:08 ◼   ► yeah what have you done

00:18:10 ◼   ► actually

00:18:11 ◼   ► in the intervening time period

00:18:13 ◼   ► because like

00:18:14 ◼   ► my

00:18:14 ◼   ► it's just my accent

00:18:16 ◼   ► that's changed

00:18:16 ◼   ► and my audio got better

00:18:17 ◼   ► federico's is similar

00:18:18 ◼   ► accent changing

00:18:19 ◼   ► like your accent changed as well

00:18:21 ◼   ► but also

00:18:21 ◼   ► you aged

00:18:23 ◼   ► it's true

00:18:24 ◼   ► like a lot

00:18:24 ◼   ► it's interesting

00:18:25 ◼   ► yeah

00:18:26 ◼   ► it's very interesting

00:18:26 ◼   ► i think we all sound a lot better

00:18:29 ◼   ► anyway

00:18:29 ◼   ► our voices are much better now

00:18:31 ◼   ► we're professionals

00:18:32 ◼   ► yes

00:18:32 ◼   ► um

00:18:33 ◼   ► so thank you ryan

00:18:34 ◼   ► for building this

00:18:35 ◼   ► unbelievable

00:18:35 ◼   ► go check it out

00:18:37 ◼   ► in the show notes

00:18:38 ◼   ► um

00:18:38 ◼   ► it's also a really nice web design

00:18:40 ◼   ► it's really good

00:18:41 ◼   ► it's really well done

00:18:42 ◼   ► um

00:18:43 ◼   ► i actually don't know who did this

00:18:45 ◼   ► so

00:18:46 ◼   ► whichever ryan you are

00:18:47 ◼   ► thank you

00:18:48 ◼   ► yeah yeah

00:18:49 ◼   ► for this

00:18:49 ◼   ► yeah

00:18:49 ◼   ► uh

00:18:51 ◼   ► ryan who used to work at dropbox

00:18:52 ◼   ► oh wow

00:18:54 ◼   ► okay

00:18:54 ◼   ► i was thinking about that

00:18:55 ◼   ► visit the other day

00:18:56 ◼   ► about how good their food was

00:18:57 ◼   ► yeah

00:18:58 ◼   ► yes

00:18:59 ◼   ► very good

00:19:00 ◼   ► um

00:19:01 ◼   ► this is so much fun

00:19:03 ◼   ► so

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00:20:34 ◼   ► just us

00:20:35 ◼   ► it's a

00:20:37 ◼   ► hilarious way

00:20:37 ◼   ► to begin an

00:20:38 ◼   ► episode like

00:20:39 ◼   ► this

00:20:39 ◼   ► hang on a

00:20:41 ◼   ► minute

00:20:41 ◼   ► Federico

00:20:42 ◼   ► are you

00:20:43 ◼   ► really suggesting

00:20:44 ◼   ► that we

00:20:44 ◼   ► wouldn't talk

00:20:45 ◼   ► about this

00:20:46 ◼   ► okay so I

00:20:47 ◼   ► have a

00:20:48 ◼   ► really

00:20:48 ◼   ► I have a

00:20:51 ◼   ► particular

00:20:51 ◼   ► position

00:20:52 ◼   ► about

00:20:53 ◼   ► this

00:20:54 ◼   ► which is

00:20:55 ◼   ► let me

00:20:57 ◼   ► use a

00:20:58 ◼   ► huge

00:20:58 ◼   ► disclaimer

00:20:59 ◼   ► up front

00:21:00 ◼   ► that I

00:21:01 ◼   ► very much

00:21:02 ◼   ► appreciate

00:21:03 ◼   ► the people

00:21:04 ◼   ► who have

00:21:04 ◼   ► covered

00:21:05 ◼   ► this

00:21:06 ◼   ► yeah

00:21:07 ◼   ► especially

00:21:08 ◼   ► you and

00:21:08 ◼   ► Jason

00:21:09 ◼   ► okay

00:21:09 ◼   ► here we

00:21:09 ◼   ► go

00:21:10 ◼   ► I

00:21:10 ◼   ► have

00:21:11 ◼   ► never

00:21:11 ◼   ► had

00:21:12 ◼   ► a

00:21:12 ◼   ► particular

00:21:13 ◼   ► affection

00:21:13 ◼   ► myself

00:21:14 ◼   ► for

00:21:15 ◼   ► talking

00:21:16 ◼   ► at length

00:21:17 ◼   ► about

00:21:17 ◼   ► Apple

00:21:17 ◼   ► executives

00:21:18 ◼   ► okay

00:21:19 ◼   ► I am

00:21:20 ◼   ► just

00:21:20 ◼   ► not

00:21:21 ◼   ► that

00:21:21 ◼   ► interested

00:21:22 ◼   ► in

00:21:23 ◼   ► talking

00:21:23 ◼   ► about

00:21:23 ◼   ► the

00:21:24 ◼   ► board

00:21:24 ◼   ► and

00:21:25 ◼   ► executive

00:21:26 ◼   ► shuffling

00:21:26 ◼   ► who's

00:21:27 ◼   ► a senior

00:21:28 ◼   ► vice

00:21:28 ◼   ► president

00:21:28 ◼   ► who's

00:21:29 ◼   ► a c-suite

00:21:30 ◼   ► executive

00:21:30 ◼   ► like

00:21:31 ◼   ► it's not

00:21:32 ◼   ► that I

00:21:32 ◼   ► find it

00:21:33 ◼   ► boring

00:21:33 ◼   ► it's more

00:21:34 ◼   ► that I

00:21:34 ◼   ► like Apple

00:21:36 ◼   ► because I

00:21:36 ◼   ► just want to

00:21:37 ◼   ► talk about

00:21:38 ◼   ► the products

00:21:38 ◼   ► and what

00:21:39 ◼   ► people do

00:21:39 ◼   ► with them

00:21:40 ◼   ► but also

00:21:41 ◼   ► we cannot

00:21:41 ◼   ► escape

00:21:42 ◼   ► this news

00:21:43 ◼   ► I feel

00:21:44 ◼   ► I mean I

00:21:45 ◼   ► understand

00:21:45 ◼   ► what you're

00:21:46 ◼   ► saying

00:21:46 ◼   ► but I

00:21:46 ◼   ► feel like

00:21:47 ◼   ► if you

00:21:47 ◼   ► care about

00:21:48 ◼   ► the products

00:21:48 ◼   ► this particular

00:21:50 ◼   ► thing of

00:21:51 ◼   ► Tim Cook

00:21:52 ◼   ► moving away

00:21:53 ◼   ► from the

00:21:54 ◼   ► CEO position

00:21:54 ◼   ► and John

00:21:56 ◼   ► Turner

00:21:56 ◼   ► stepping in

00:21:57 ◼   ► gives

00:21:58 ◼   ► opportunity to

00:21:59 ◼   ► talk about

00:21:59 ◼   ► products that

00:22:00 ◼   ► just Johnny

00:22:01 ◼   ► Seruji being

00:22:02 ◼   ► given a c-suite

00:22:02 ◼   ► title if that

00:22:03 ◼   ► was the only

00:22:04 ◼   ► thing that

00:22:04 ◼   ► happened

00:22:05 ◼   ► maybe wouldn't

00:22:06 ◼   ► allow for

00:22:07 ◼   ► such a

00:22:07 ◼   ► conversation to

00:22:08 ◼   ► occur

00:22:08 ◼   ► right

00:22:10 ◼   ► yeah

00:22:11 ◼   ► yeah

00:22:13 ◼   ► anyway

00:22:14 ◼   ► Tim Cook

00:22:15 ◼   ► is not

00:22:16 ◼   ► retiring

00:22:17 ◼   ► Tim Cook

00:22:18 ◼   ► is resting

00:22:18 ◼   ► and vesting

00:22:19 ◼   ► he's going

00:22:21 ◼   ► to become

00:22:21 ◼   ► the executive

00:22:22 ◼   ► chairman

00:22:23 ◼   ► so I wanted

00:22:24 ◼   ► to kind of

00:22:24 ◼   ► we're going

00:22:25 ◼   ► to go through

00:22:25 ◼   ► this even

00:22:26 ◼   ► though Federico

00:22:26 ◼   ► doesn't want

00:22:27 ◼   ► to and we're

00:22:28 ◼   ► going to kind

00:22:28 ◼   ► of talk

00:22:29 ◼   ► through a

00:22:29 ◼   ► bunch of

00:22:30 ◼   ► areas and I

00:22:31 ◼   ► wanted to

00:22:31 ◼   ► start off

00:22:31 ◼   ► by saying

00:22:32 ◼   ► that I

00:22:33 ◼   ► think this

00:22:33 ◼   ► this what

00:22:34 ◼   ► this happened

00:22:35 ◼   ► quite abruptly

00:22:36 ◼   ► I feel like

00:22:37 ◼   ► I mean it

00:22:37 ◼   ► was never

00:22:37 ◼   ► going to not

00:22:38 ◼   ► right

00:22:38 ◼   ► they were

00:22:38 ◼   ► never going

00:22:39 ◼   ► to tease

00:22:39 ◼   ► this out

00:22:40 ◼   ► like it

00:22:40 ◼   ► always had

00:22:41 ◼   ► to happen

00:22:42 ◼   ► whenever it

00:22:43 ◼   ► happened and

00:22:43 ◼   ► it happened

00:22:44 ◼   ► on Monday

00:22:44 ◼   ► and I think

00:22:46 ◼   ► that I got

00:22:46 ◼   ► really swept

00:22:47 ◼   ► up in kind

00:22:48 ◼   ► of the surprise

00:22:49 ◼   ► of it and

00:22:50 ◼   ► then having to

00:22:50 ◼   ► do something

00:22:51 ◼   ► about it

00:22:52 ◼   ► that I don't

00:22:52 ◼   ► think I'd

00:22:53 ◼   ► really processed

00:22:54 ◼   ► how big of a

00:22:55 ◼   ► deal this is

00:22:56 ◼   ► like Tim

00:22:58 ◼   ► Cook is

00:22:59 ◼   ► stepping down

00:23:01 ◼   ► as CEO

00:23:01 ◼   ► and somebody

00:23:02 ◼   ► new is taking

00:23:04 ◼   ► that place

00:23:04 ◼   ► like I think

00:23:06 ◼   ► this is a

00:23:06 ◼   ► very big deal

00:23:07 ◼   ► on one

00:23:08 ◼   ► hand I

00:23:09 ◼   ► totally get

00:23:09 ◼   ► what you're

00:23:10 ◼   ► saying Federico

00:23:10 ◼   ► like I

00:23:11 ◼   ► also prefer

00:23:12 ◼   ► to talk

00:23:12 ◼   ► about

00:23:12 ◼   ► products

00:23:13 ◼   ► but

00:23:14 ◼   ► Apple is

00:23:16 ◼   ► a company

00:23:16 ◼   ► for better

00:23:17 ◼   ► or for worse

00:23:18 ◼   ► that is

00:23:18 ◼   ► defined by

00:23:19 ◼   ► who's at

00:23:20 ◼   ► the top

00:23:20 ◼   ► of it

00:23:20 ◼   ► from the

00:23:22 ◼   ► very beginning

00:23:23 ◼   ► and

00:23:24 ◼   ► there is

00:23:26 ◼   ► something

00:23:27 ◼   ► interesting

00:23:28 ◼   ► happening

00:23:28 ◼   ► here that

00:23:29 ◼   ► the guy

00:23:30 ◼   ► who is

00:23:30 ◼   ► taking over

00:23:31 ◼   ► for the

00:23:33 ◼   ► last 20

00:23:34 ◼   ► years or

00:23:35 ◼   ► 25 years

00:23:35 ◼   ► has been

00:23:36 ◼   ► involved in

00:23:37 ◼   ► on the ground

00:23:38 ◼   ► making products

00:23:39 ◼   ► and that's

00:23:41 ◼   ► exciting and

00:23:41 ◼   ► interesting

00:23:41 ◼   ► but I get

00:23:43 ◼   ► it

00:23:44 ◼   ► I totally

00:23:46 ◼   ► get it

00:23:47 ◼   ► so I

00:23:48 ◼   ► really

00:23:48 ◼   ► liked that

00:23:49 ◼   ► they

00:23:49 ◼   ► called

00:23:50 ◼   ► this

00:23:50 ◼   ► like

00:23:51 ◼   ► so there

00:23:52 ◼   ► was the

00:23:52 ◼   ► two

00:23:52 ◼   ► there was

00:23:53 ◼   ► like three

00:23:53 ◼   ► I think

00:23:54 ◼   ► three or

00:23:54 ◼   ► four things

00:23:54 ◼   ► that went

00:23:55 ◼   ► up in the

00:23:55 ◼   ► newsroom

00:23:55 ◼   ► and one

00:23:57 ◼   ► of them

00:23:57 ◼   ► was a

00:23:58 ◼   ► letter from

00:23:59 ◼   ► Tim

00:23:59 ◼   ► and I

00:24:01 ◼   ► liked that

00:24:02 ◼   ► it was

00:24:02 ◼   ► called a

00:24:02 ◼   ► community

00:24:03 ◼   ► letter

00:24:03 ◼   ► because

00:24:05 ◼   ► I think

00:24:07 ◼   ► it's nice

00:24:08 ◼   ► to think

00:24:09 ◼   ► about the

00:24:10 ◼   ► Apple

00:24:10 ◼   ► community

00:24:11 ◼   ► right

00:24:12 ◼   ► as like

00:24:12 ◼   ► people who

00:24:14 ◼   ► like the

00:24:14 ◼   ► products

00:24:15 ◼   ► and care

00:24:15 ◼   ► and

00:24:16 ◼   ► I don't

00:24:17 ◼   ► really feel

00:24:18 ◼   ► like I've

00:24:19 ◼   ► can recall

00:24:20 ◼   ► them referring

00:24:21 ◼   ► to

00:24:22 ◼   ► a community

00:24:24 ◼   ► in the way

00:24:25 ◼   ► that you

00:24:25 ◼   ► know people

00:24:26 ◼   ► do now

00:24:27 ◼   ► you know like

00:24:27 ◼   ► as in like

00:24:28 ◼   ► fans or

00:24:28 ◼   ► something

00:24:28 ◼   ► and I

00:24:30 ◼   ► thought that

00:24:30 ◼   ► it was

00:24:30 ◼   ► I did

00:24:31 ◼   ► think it

00:24:31 ◼   ► was nice

00:24:32 ◼   ► that

00:24:32 ◼   ► well one

00:24:34 ◼   ► I did

00:24:34 ◼   ► I actually

00:24:35 ◼   ► really like

00:24:35 ◼   ► what Tim

00:24:35 ◼   ► wrote

00:24:36 ◼   ► I think

00:24:36 ◼   ► it was

00:24:36 ◼   ► very

00:24:37 ◼   ► personal

00:24:37 ◼   ► and it

00:24:38 ◼   ► felt that

00:24:39 ◼   ► way

00:24:39 ◼   ► and I

00:24:40 ◼   ► liked

00:24:40 ◼   ► the things

00:24:41 ◼   ► that he

00:24:42 ◼   ► had to

00:24:42 ◼   ► say

00:24:42 ◼   ► but I

00:24:43 ◼   ► liked that

00:24:44 ◼   ► they called

00:24:44 ◼   ► it a

00:24:44 ◼   ► community

00:24:44 ◼   ► letter

00:24:44 ◼   ► but it

00:24:45 ◼   ► also

00:24:45 ◼   ► is very

00:24:45 ◼   ► funny

00:24:46 ◼   ► in reading

00:24:46 ◼   ► this

00:24:46 ◼   ► that he

00:24:46 ◼   ► could not

00:24:47 ◼   ► have put

00:24:47 ◼   ► turn us

00:24:48 ◼   ► over more

00:24:48 ◼   ► than he

00:24:48 ◼   ► did

00:24:49 ◼   ► like in

00:24:49 ◼   ► this

00:24:50 ◼   ► letter

00:24:50 ◼   ► he really

00:24:51 ◼   ► is like

00:24:52 ◼   ► he's doing

00:24:53 ◼   ► the job

00:24:54 ◼   ► for John

00:24:54 ◼   ► Ternus

00:24:55 ◼   ► about saying

00:24:55 ◼   ► how great

00:24:56 ◼   ► he's gonna

00:24:56 ◼   ► be

00:24:56 ◼   ► I thought

00:24:58 ◼   ► that you

00:24:58 ◼   ► know

00:24:58 ◼   ► I mean

00:24:59 ◼   ► obviously

00:24:59 ◼   ► that is

00:24:59 ◼   ► the way

00:25:00 ◼   ► you do

00:25:00 ◼   ► these

00:25:00 ◼   ► things

00:25:01 ◼   ► in the

00:25:01 ◼   ► because

00:25:02 ◼   ► it is

00:25:02 ◼   ► Tim's

00:25:02 ◼   ► choice

00:25:03 ◼   ► to choose

00:25:04 ◼   ► his

00:25:04 ◼   ► succession

00:25:04 ◼   ► would be

00:25:05 ◼   ► my

00:25:05 ◼   ► assumption

00:25:05 ◼   ► or at

00:25:05 ◼   ► least

00:25:05 ◼   ► his

00:25:06 ◼   ► recommendation

00:25:06 ◼   ► that he

00:25:07 ◼   ► made to

00:25:07 ◼   ► the board

00:25:07 ◼   ► so you

00:25:08 ◼   ► would hope

00:25:09 ◼   ► that Tim

00:25:09 ◼   ► really thought

00:25:10 ◼   ► that John

00:25:10 ◼   ► Ternus was

00:25:11 ◼   ► good for

00:25:11 ◼   ► the job

00:25:12 ◼   ► but I

00:25:12 ◼   ► think he

00:25:13 ◼   ► did a

00:25:13 ◼   ► very good

00:25:13 ◼   ► job of

00:25:14 ◼   ► selling

00:25:14 ◼   ► his

00:25:15 ◼   ► decision

00:25:16 ◼   ► well he

00:25:17 ◼   ► has to

00:25:17 ◼   ► introduce

00:25:17 ◼   ► Ternus

00:25:18 ◼   ► to the

00:25:19 ◼   ► world

00:25:19 ◼   ► right

00:25:19 ◼   ► like we

00:25:19 ◼   ► know who

00:25:20 ◼   ► he is

00:25:20 ◼   ► but we

00:25:21 ◼   ► host an

00:25:22 ◼   ► Apple podcast

00:25:22 ◼   ► for listeners

00:25:23 ◼   ► of fans

00:25:25 ◼   ► of the

00:25:25 ◼   ► company

00:25:25 ◼   ► right

00:25:26 ◼   ► it's

00:25:27 ◼   ► Wall Street

00:25:27 ◼   ► and the

00:25:28 ◼   ► market at

00:25:28 ◼   ► large

00:25:29 ◼   ► it's the

00:25:29 ◼   ► world at

00:25:29 ◼   ► large

00:25:30 ◼   ► that he

00:25:30 ◼   ► has to

00:25:31 ◼   ► introduce

00:25:31 ◼   ► who this

00:25:32 ◼   ► person

00:25:32 ◼   ► is

00:25:33 ◼   ► but even

00:25:34 ◼   ► for us

00:25:34 ◼   ► I think

00:25:35 ◼   ► it's

00:25:35 ◼   ► important

00:25:35 ◼   ► to hear

00:25:37 ◼   ► Cook

00:25:38 ◼   ► explain it

00:25:39 ◼   ► yeah

00:25:39 ◼   ► sure

00:25:40 ◼   ► we have

00:25:42 ◼   ► our opinions

00:25:42 ◼   ► about why

00:25:43 ◼   ► we think

00:25:43 ◼   ► he could

00:25:43 ◼   ► be an

00:25:44 ◼   ► interesting

00:25:44 ◼   ► CEO

00:25:45 ◼   ► yeah

00:25:45 ◼   ► look at

00:25:46 ◼   ► his arms

00:25:46 ◼   ► you know

00:25:47 ◼   ► exactly

00:25:47 ◼   ► but it's

00:25:48 ◼   ► important

00:25:48 ◼   ► for Tim

00:25:49 ◼   ► Cook

00:25:49 ◼   ► to explain

00:25:50 ◼   ► it as

00:25:50 ◼   ► well

00:25:51 ◼   ► even

00:25:51 ◼   ► to us

00:25:52 ◼   ► and I

00:25:53 ◼   ► think he

00:25:53 ◼   ► did a

00:25:53 ◼   ► very good

00:25:53 ◼   ► job of

00:25:54 ◼   ► it

00:25:54 ◼   ► and then

00:25:54 ◼   ► I also

00:25:55 ◼   ► think that

00:25:55 ◼   ► Ternus was

00:25:56 ◼   ► very gracious

00:25:57 ◼   ► and did a

00:25:57 ◼   ► good job

00:25:58 ◼   ► I enjoyed

00:25:58 ◼   ► the Steve Jobs

00:25:59 ◼   ► name drop

00:26:00 ◼   ► in his post

00:26:01 ◼   ► like don't

00:26:01 ◼   ► forget I

00:26:02 ◼   ► worked here

00:26:02 ◼   ► when Steve

00:26:02 ◼   ► Jobs was

00:26:03 ◼   ► here as

00:26:04 ◼   ► well

00:26:04 ◼   ► don't forget

00:26:04 ◼   ► about that

00:26:05 ◼   ► I think

00:26:06 ◼   ► that overall

00:26:07 ◼   ► as well as

00:26:08 ◼   ► something

00:26:08 ◼   ► could be

00:26:09 ◼   ► done

00:26:09 ◼   ► I think

00:26:10 ◼   ► this was

00:26:10 ◼   ► done as

00:26:11 ◼   ► well as

00:26:11 ◼   ► it could

00:26:11 ◼   ► be done

00:26:11 ◼   ► yeah

00:26:13 ◼   ► and I

00:26:13 ◼   ► think

00:26:13 ◼   ► that

00:26:15 ◼   ► Tim Cook

00:26:16 ◼   ► is a

00:26:16 ◼   ► person

00:26:17 ◼   ► I just

00:26:19 ◼   ► have

00:26:19 ◼   ► I think

00:26:20 ◼   ► back to

00:26:20 ◼   ► his

00:26:20 ◼   ► letter

00:26:21 ◼   ► when he

00:26:21 ◼   ► came out

00:26:22 ◼   ► I think

00:26:22 ◼   ► about the

00:26:23 ◼   ► other times

00:26:24 ◼   ► where he's

00:26:24 ◼   ► spoken about

00:26:25 ◼   ► things that

00:26:25 ◼   ► are clearly

00:26:26 ◼   ► important to

00:26:26 ◼   ► him

00:26:27 ◼   ► like

00:26:27 ◼   ► graduations

00:26:29 ◼   ► or speeches

00:26:29 ◼   ► or whatever

00:26:29 ◼   ► he seems

00:26:33 ◼   ► like a person

00:26:34 ◼   ► who will just

00:26:34 ◼   ► talk about

00:26:34 ◼   ► what he cares

00:26:35 ◼   ► about

00:26:35 ◼   ► and you

00:26:37 ◼   ► feel that

00:26:38 ◼   ► in this

00:26:38 ◼   ► letter

00:26:38 ◼   ► of course

00:26:40 ◼   ► it is

00:26:41 ◼   ► hard to

00:26:42 ◼   ► reconcile

00:26:42 ◼   ► the actions

00:26:44 ◼   ► of any

00:26:45 ◼   ► one person

00:26:45 ◼   ► over such

00:26:46 ◼   ► a long

00:26:46 ◼   ► period

00:26:47 ◼   ► of time

00:26:47 ◼   ► right

00:26:48 ◼   ► like

00:26:48 ◼   ► Tim Cook's

00:26:50 ◼   ► like yes

00:26:51 ◼   ► his retirement

00:26:51 ◼   ► I think

00:26:52 ◼   ► is being

00:26:52 ◼   ► handled

00:26:52 ◼   ► well

00:26:52 ◼   ► the letter

00:26:53 ◼   ► was well

00:26:53 ◼   ► written

00:26:54 ◼   ► and I feel

00:26:54 ◼   ► like

00:26:54 ◼   ► genuine

00:26:55 ◼   ► but also

00:26:56 ◼   ► like

00:26:57 ◼   ► the company

00:26:58 ◼   ► is different

00:26:58 ◼   ► than it was

00:26:59 ◼   ► when Tim

00:26:59 ◼   ► took over

00:27:00 ◼   ► for better

00:27:00 ◼   ► and for

00:27:00 ◼   ► worse

00:27:01 ◼   ► the world

00:27:01 ◼   ► is different

00:27:02 ◼   ► because of

00:27:03 ◼   ► manufacturing

00:27:04 ◼   ► in China

00:27:04 ◼   ► and other

00:27:05 ◼   ► places in

00:27:05 ◼   ► the world

00:27:05 ◼   ► for better

00:27:06 ◼   ► or for

00:27:06 ◼   ► worse

00:27:06 ◼   ► you may

00:27:08 ◼   ► like

00:27:08 ◼   ► or dislike

00:27:09 ◼   ► things that

00:27:10 ◼   ► Tim Cook

00:27:10 ◼   ► has felt

00:27:10 ◼   ► like he had

00:27:11 ◼   ► to do

00:27:11 ◼   ► with the

00:27:11 ◼   ► current

00:27:12 ◼   ► administration

00:27:13 ◼   ► in the

00:27:13 ◼   ► US

00:27:13 ◼   ► like

00:27:13 ◼   ► but all

00:27:15 ◼   ► that

00:27:15 ◼   ► aside

00:27:15 ◼   ► if you

00:27:16 ◼   ► can put

00:27:17 ◼   ► it aside

00:27:17 ◼   ► I'm not

00:27:17 ◼   ► sure you

00:27:17 ◼   ► actually

00:27:18 ◼   ► can

00:27:18 ◼   ► but

00:27:18 ◼   ► at the

00:27:19 ◼   ► end of

00:27:20 ◼   ► the day

00:27:20 ◼   ► you're

00:27:20 ◼   ► right

00:27:20 ◼   ► like

00:27:20 ◼   ► his

00:27:21 ◼   ► his

00:27:21 ◼   ► job

00:27:22 ◼   ► right

00:27:23 ◼   ► now

00:27:23 ◼   ► is to

00:27:25 ◼   ► preserve

00:27:26 ◼   ► Apple

00:27:27 ◼   ► through

00:27:28 ◼   ► this

00:27:28 ◼   ► transition

00:27:29 ◼   ► and that's

00:27:30 ◼   ► about

00:27:30 ◼   ► picking

00:27:30 ◼   ► the right

00:27:31 ◼   ► person

00:27:31 ◼   ► it's

00:27:32 ◼   ► about

00:27:32 ◼   ► explaining

00:27:33 ◼   ► why he

00:27:34 ◼   ► thinks

00:27:34 ◼   ► it's

00:27:34 ◼   ► the right

00:27:35 ◼   ► person

00:27:35 ◼   ► and

00:27:36 ◼   ► I think

00:27:37 ◼   ► it's

00:27:37 ◼   ► also

00:27:37 ◼   ► about

00:27:37 ◼   ► what

00:27:37 ◼   ► Cook

00:27:38 ◼   ► is

00:27:38 ◼   ► going

00:27:38 ◼   ► to

00:27:38 ◼   ► do

00:27:39 ◼   ► you

00:27:39 ◼   ► mentioned

00:27:39 ◼   ► he's

00:27:39 ◼   ► going to

00:27:39 ◼   ► stay on

00:27:40 ◼   ► as

00:27:40 ◼   ► executive

00:27:41 ◼   ► chairman

00:27:41 ◼   ► of the

00:27:41 ◼   ► board

00:27:41 ◼   ► and in

00:27:42 ◼   ► the press

00:27:42 ◼   ► release

00:27:43 ◼   ► it calls

00:27:43 ◼   ► out

00:27:44 ◼   ► that part

00:27:45 ◼   ► of his

00:27:45 ◼   ► role

00:27:45 ◼   ► is going

00:27:45 ◼   ► to be

00:27:46 ◼   ► interfacing

00:27:46 ◼   ► with

00:27:46 ◼   ► policymakers

00:27:47 ◼   ► and really

00:27:49 ◼   ► that's

00:27:49 ◼   ► about

00:27:50 ◼   ► one

00:27:50 ◼   ► person

00:27:50 ◼   ► maybe

00:27:52 ◼   ► two

00:27:52 ◼   ► people

00:27:53 ◼   ► it's

00:27:54 ◼   ► about

00:27:54 ◼   ► lots

00:27:54 ◼   ► of

00:27:54 ◼   ► people

00:27:55 ◼   ► it's

00:27:55 ◼   ► two

00:27:55 ◼   ► people

00:27:55 ◼   ► specifically

00:27:56 ◼   ► yeah

00:27:56 ◼   ► that's

00:27:57 ◼   ► what I

00:27:57 ◼   ► mean

00:27:57 ◼   ► you know

00:27:57 ◼   ► what I'm

00:27:58 ◼   ► saying

00:27:58 ◼   ► he's

00:27:58 ◼   ► got to

00:27:59 ◼   ► babysit

00:27:59 ◼   ► Donald

00:27:59 ◼   ► Trump

00:27:59 ◼   ► and he

00:28:00 ◼   ► has

00:28:00 ◼   ► to

00:28:00 ◼   ► keep

00:28:00 ◼   ► China

00:28:01 ◼   ► happy

00:28:01 ◼   ► and

00:28:02 ◼   ► if

00:28:03 ◼   ► he

00:28:03 ◼   ► can

00:28:03 ◼   ► do

00:28:03 ◼   ► that

00:28:04 ◼   ► and

00:28:04 ◼   ► guard

00:28:06 ◼   ► Ternus

00:28:06 ◼   ► from that

00:28:06 ◼   ► as long

00:28:07 ◼   ► as he

00:28:07 ◼   ► can

00:28:08 ◼   ► and prepare

00:28:09 ◼   ► Ternus

00:28:10 ◼   ► for it

00:28:10 ◼   ► I'm sure

00:28:11 ◼   ► Ternus

00:28:11 ◼   ► has been

00:28:11 ◼   ► in those

00:28:11 ◼   ► meetings

00:28:12 ◼   ► or whatever

00:28:12 ◼   ► but

00:28:14 ◼   ► now

00:28:15 ◼   ► there's

00:28:15 ◼   ► like a

00:28:16 ◼   ► defined

00:28:16 ◼   ► runway

00:28:17 ◼   ► I think

00:28:17 ◼   ► that

00:28:18 ◼   ► will be

00:28:18 ◼   ► useful

00:28:19 ◼   ► for

00:28:19 ◼   ► Ternus

00:28:19 ◼   ► in the

00:28:20 ◼   ► long run

00:28:20 ◼   ► because

00:28:21 ◼   ► hopefully

00:28:21 ◼   ► you know

00:28:22 ◼   ► Ternus'

00:28:23 ◼   ► term

00:28:23 ◼   ► as CEO

00:28:24 ◼   ► will

00:28:24 ◼   ► outlast

00:28:25 ◼   ► the

00:28:25 ◼   ► individual

00:28:25 ◼   ► leaders

00:28:26 ◼   ► we have

00:28:26 ◼   ► now

00:28:27 ◼   ► but he

00:28:27 ◼   ► still

00:28:28 ◼   ► has to

00:28:28 ◼   ► learn

00:28:28 ◼   ► how

00:28:29 ◼   ► these

00:28:29 ◼   ► things

00:28:29 ◼   ► work

00:28:30 ◼   ► but

00:28:32 ◼   ► Donald

00:28:32 ◼   ► Trump

00:28:32 ◼   ► yes

00:28:33 ◼   ► Xi Jinping

00:28:33 ◼   ► who knows

00:28:34 ◼   ► who can

00:28:35 ◼   ► tell

00:28:35 ◼   ► yeah

00:28:36 ◼   ► I would

00:28:38 ◼   ► like to

00:28:38 ◼   ► read

00:28:38 ◼   ► Donald

00:28:39 ◼   ► Trump's

00:28:39 ◼   ► statement

00:28:39 ◼   ► are you

00:28:41 ◼   ► gonna

00:28:41 ◼   ► do

00:28:41 ◼   ► the

00:28:41 ◼   ► voice

00:28:41 ◼   ► no

00:28:43 ◼   ► but

00:28:43 ◼   ► it

00:28:43 ◼   ► will

00:28:43 ◼   ► probably

00:28:44 ◼   ► start

00:28:44 ◼   ► coming

00:28:44 ◼   ► out

00:28:45 ◼   ► but

00:28:45 ◼   ► it's

00:28:45 ◼   ► not

00:28:45 ◼   ► my

00:28:45 ◼   ► plan

00:28:45 ◼   ► to

00:28:46 ◼   ► do

00:28:46 ◼   ► it

00:28:46 ◼   ► so

00:28:47 ◼   ► Trump

00:28:48 ◼   ► posted

00:28:49 ◼   ► on his

00:28:49 ◼   ► true

00:28:50 ◼   ► social

00:28:50 ◼   ► blog

00:28:51 ◼   ► I have

00:28:52 ◼   ► always

00:28:52 ◼   ► been a

00:28:52 ◼   ► big fan

00:28:53 ◼   ► of Tim

00:28:53 ◼   ► Cook

00:28:54 ◼   ► and likewise

00:28:54 ◼   ► Steve

00:28:55 ◼   ► Jobs

00:28:55 ◼   ► but if

00:28:55 ◼   ► Steve

00:28:55 ◼   ► was not

00:28:56 ◼   ► taken

00:28:56 ◼   ► from the

00:28:57 ◼   ► planet

00:28:57 ◼   ► earth

00:28:57 ◼   ► so

00:28:57 ◼   ► young

00:28:58 ◼   ► and ran

00:28:58 ◼   ► the

00:28:58 ◼   ► company

00:28:58 ◼   ► instead

00:28:59 ◼   ► of

00:28:59 ◼   ► Tim

00:28:59 ◼   ► the

00:28:59 ◼   ► company

00:29:00 ◼   ► would

00:29:00 ◼   ► have

00:29:00 ◼   ► done

00:29:00 ◼   ► well

00:29:00 ◼   ► but

00:29:01 ◼   ► nowhere

00:29:01 ◼   ► near

00:29:01 ◼   ► as

00:29:01 ◼   ► well

00:29:02 ◼   ► as

00:29:02 ◼   ► it

00:29:02 ◼   ► has

00:29:02 ◼   ► under

00:29:02 ◼   ► Tim

00:29:03 ◼   ► for

00:29:04 ◼   ► me

00:29:04 ◼   ► it

00:29:04 ◼   ► began

00:29:04 ◼   ► with a

00:29:04 ◼   ► phone

00:29:05 ◼   ► call

00:29:05 ◼   ► from

00:29:05 ◼   ► Tim

00:29:05 ◼   ► at the

00:29:06 ◼   ► beginning

00:29:06 ◼   ► of my

00:29:06 ◼   ► first

00:29:07 ◼   ► term

00:29:07 ◼   ► capitalized

00:29:08 ◼   ► interesting

00:29:08 ◼   ► he had

00:29:09 ◼   ► a fairly

00:29:10 ◼   ► large

00:29:10 ◼   ► problem

00:29:10 ◼   ► that only

00:29:11 ◼   ► I as

00:29:11 ◼   ► president

00:29:12 ◼   ► could fix

00:29:12 ◼   ► sidebar

00:29:14 ◼   ► it was

00:29:14 ◼   ► definitely

00:29:14 ◼   ► a problem

00:29:15 ◼   ► he caused

00:29:16 ◼   ► right

00:29:16 ◼   ► like

00:29:17 ◼   ► whatever

00:29:17 ◼   ► this

00:29:17 ◼   ► problem

00:29:18 ◼   ► was

00:29:18 ◼   ► he caused

00:29:19 ◼   ► that problem

00:29:19 ◼   ► where

00:29:20 ◼   ► these

00:29:20 ◼   ► tariffs

00:29:20 ◼   ► come

00:29:20 ◼   ► from

00:29:21 ◼   ► anyway

00:29:22 ◼   ► most

00:29:23 ◼   ► people

00:29:23 ◼   ► would

00:29:23 ◼   ► have

00:29:23 ◼   ► paid

00:29:24 ◼   ► millions

00:29:24 ◼   ► of

00:29:24 ◼   ► dollars

00:29:24 ◼   ► to

00:29:25 ◼   ► a

00:29:25 ◼   ► consultant

00:29:25 ◼   ► who

00:29:25 ◼   ► I

00:29:26 ◼   ► probably

00:29:26 ◼   ► would

00:29:26 ◼   ► not

00:29:26 ◼   ► have

00:29:27 ◼   ► known

00:29:27 ◼   ► but

00:29:27 ◼   ► who

00:29:27 ◼   ► would

00:29:27 ◼   ► say

00:29:28 ◼   ► that

00:29:28 ◼   ► he

00:29:28 ◼   ► knew

00:29:28 ◼   ► me

00:29:28 ◼   ► well

00:29:29 ◼   ► the

00:29:29 ◼   ► fees

00:29:30 ◼   ► would

00:29:30 ◼   ► be

00:29:30 ◼   ► paid

00:29:30 ◼   ► but

00:29:31 ◼   ► the

00:29:31 ◼   ► job

00:29:31 ◼   ► would

00:29:31 ◼   ► not

00:29:32 ◼   ► have

00:29:32 ◼   ► gotten

00:29:32 ◼   ► done

00:29:32 ◼   ► what

00:29:33 ◼   ► when

00:29:33 ◼   ► I

00:29:33 ◼   ► got

00:29:34 ◼   ► the

00:29:34 ◼   ► call

00:29:34 ◼   ► I

00:29:34 ◼   ► said

00:29:34 ◼   ► wow

00:29:35 ◼   ► it's

00:29:36 ◼   ► Tim

00:29:36 ◼   ► Apple

00:29:36 ◼   ► cook

00:29:37 ◼   ► calling

00:29:38 ◼   ► that's

00:29:39 ◼   ► genuinely

00:29:39 ◼   ► funny

00:29:40 ◼   ► like

00:29:41 ◼   ► referencing

00:29:42 ◼   ► Tim

00:29:43 ◼   ► Apple

00:29:43 ◼   ► it's

00:29:44 ◼   ► just

00:29:44 ◼   ► I mean

00:29:45 ◼   ► look

00:29:46 ◼   ► Trump

00:29:49 ◼   ► health

00:29:50 ◼   ► wise

00:29:50 ◼   ► but

00:29:50 ◼   ► that

00:29:51 ◼   ► is

00:29:51 ◼   ► a

00:29:51 ◼   ► genuinely

00:29:51 ◼   ► funny

00:29:52 ◼   ► line

00:29:52 ◼   ► calling

00:29:52 ◼   ► him

00:29:53 ◼   ► Tim

00:29:53 ◼   ► Apple

00:29:53 ◼   ► and

00:29:53 ◼   ► then

00:29:53 ◼   ► cook

00:29:54 ◼   ► with

00:29:54 ◼   ► an

00:29:54 ◼   ► exclamation

00:29:54 ◼   ► point

00:29:55 ◼   ► in brackets

00:29:56 ◼   ► it's

00:29:56 ◼   ► brilliant

00:29:56 ◼   ► it's

00:29:57 ◼   ► just

00:29:57 ◼   ► brilliant

00:29:57 ◼   ► Tim

00:30:00 ◼   ► cook

00:30:00 ◼   ► calling

00:30:01 ◼   ► how

00:30:01 ◼   ► big

00:30:01 ◼   ► is

00:30:01 ◼   ► that

00:30:01 ◼   ► I

00:30:02 ◼   ► was

00:30:02 ◼   ► very

00:30:02 ◼   ► impressed

00:30:03 ◼   ► of

00:30:03 ◼   ► myself

00:30:03 ◼   ► to

00:30:03 ◼   ► have

00:30:04 ◼   ► the

00:30:04 ◼   ► head

00:30:05 ◼   ► of

00:30:05 ◼   ► Apple

00:30:05 ◼   ► kissing

00:30:06 ◼   ► my

00:30:06 ◼   ► butt

00:30:06 ◼   ► I'll

00:30:07 ◼   ► say

00:30:07 ◼   ► anyway

00:30:08 ◼   ► he

00:30:08 ◼   ► explained

00:30:08 ◼   ► his

00:30:09 ◼   ► problem

00:30:09 ◼   ► a

00:30:09 ◼   ► tough

00:30:09 ◼   ► one

00:30:10 ◼   ► it

00:30:10 ◼   ► was

00:30:10 ◼   ► I

00:30:10 ◼   ► felt

00:30:10 ◼   ► he

00:30:10 ◼   ► was

00:30:11 ◼   ► right

00:30:11 ◼   ► and

00:30:11 ◼   ► he

00:30:11 ◼   ► got

00:30:12 ◼   ► it

00:30:12 ◼   ► taken

00:30:12 ◼   ► care

00:30:13 ◼   ► of

00:30:13 ◼   ► he

00:30:14 ◼   ► sounds

00:30:15 ◼   ► like

00:30:15 ◼   ► it's

00:30:15 ◼   ► the

00:30:15 ◼   ► Lord

00:30:15 ◼   ► of

00:30:15 ◼   ► the

00:30:15 ◼   ► Rings

00:30:16 ◼   ► he

00:30:17 ◼   ► explained

00:30:17 ◼   ► the

00:30:18 ◼   ► problem

00:30:18 ◼   ► a

00:30:18 ◼   ► tough

00:30:19 ◼   ► one

00:30:19 ◼   ► it

00:30:19 ◼   ► was

00:30:19 ◼   ► this

00:30:23 ◼   ► man's

00:30:24 ◼   ► mind

00:30:24 ◼   ► is

00:30:24 ◼   ► Swiss

00:30:24 ◼   ► cheese

00:30:25 ◼   ► I

00:30:25 ◼   ► mean

00:30:25 ◼   ► my

00:30:26 ◼   ► word

00:30:27 ◼   ► anyway

00:30:28 ◼   ► he

00:30:28 ◼   ► explained

00:30:29 ◼   ► his

00:30:30 ◼   ► problem

00:30:30 ◼   ► a

00:30:30 ◼   ► tough

00:30:30 ◼   ► one

00:30:30 ◼   ► it

00:30:31 ◼   ► was

00:30:31 ◼   ► I

00:30:31 ◼   ► felt

00:30:31 ◼   ► he

00:30:31 ◼   ► was

00:30:32 ◼   ► right

00:30:32 ◼   ► and

00:30:32 ◼   ► got

00:30:32 ◼   ► it

00:30:32 ◼   ► taken

00:30:33 ◼   ► care

00:30:33 ◼   ► of

00:30:33 ◼   ► it's

00:30:35 ◼   ► Dr.

00:30:35 ◼   ► Seuss

00:30:36 ◼   ► quickly

00:30:40 ◼   ► and

00:30:40 ◼   ► effectively

00:30:41 ◼   ► that

00:30:41 ◼   ► was

00:30:41 ◼   ► the

00:30:41 ◼   ► beginning

00:30:42 ◼   ► of a

00:30:42 ◼   ► very

00:30:43 ◼   ► nice

00:30:43 ◼   ► relationship

00:30:44 ◼   ► during

00:30:44 ◼   ► my

00:30:45 ◼   ► five

00:30:45 ◼   ► years

00:30:45 ◼   ► as

00:30:45 ◼   ► president

00:30:46 ◼   ► Tim

00:30:46 ◼   ► would

00:30:46 ◼   ► call

00:30:47 ◼   ► me

00:30:47 ◼   ► but

00:30:47 ◼   ► never

00:30:47 ◼   ► too

00:30:47 ◼   ► much

00:30:48 ◼   ► and

00:30:48 ◼   ► I

00:30:48 ◼   ► would

00:30:48 ◼   ► help

00:30:49 ◼   ► him

00:30:49 ◼   ► just

00:30:51 ◼   ► the

00:30:51 ◼   ► right

00:30:51 ◼   ► amount

00:30:52 ◼   ► of

00:30:52 ◼   ► calling

00:30:52 ◼   ► you know

00:30:53 ◼   ► he's

00:30:53 ◼   ► thinking

00:30:54 ◼   ► about

00:30:54 ◼   ► someone

00:30:55 ◼   ► else

00:30:55 ◼   ► right

00:30:55 ◼   ► like

00:30:56 ◼   ► oh

00:30:56 ◼   ► Zuckerberg

00:30:56 ◼   ► he

00:30:56 ◼   ► calls

00:30:57 ◼   ► me

00:30:57 ◼   ► too

00:30:57 ◼   ► much

00:30:57 ◼   ► yeah

00:30:58 ◼   ► oh

00:30:59 ◼   ► man

00:30:59 ◼   ► years

00:31:00 ◼   ► later

00:31:01 ◼   ► years

00:31:04 ◼   ► later

00:31:04 ◼   ► after

00:31:05 ◼   ► three or

00:31:06 ◼   ► four

00:31:06 ◼   ► big

00:31:06 ◼   ► helps

00:31:07 ◼   ► I

00:31:08 ◼   ► started

00:31:08 ◼   ► to

00:31:08 ◼   ► say

00:31:09 ◼   ► to

00:31:09 ◼   ► people

00:31:09 ◼   ► anyone

00:31:10 ◼   ► who

00:31:10 ◼   ► would

00:31:10 ◼   ► listen

00:31:10 ◼   ► that

00:31:11 ◼   ► this

00:31:11 ◼   ► guy

00:31:12 ◼   ► is

00:31:12 ◼   ► an

00:31:12 ◼   ► amazing

00:31:12 ◼   ► manager

00:31:13 ◼   ► and

00:31:13 ◼   ► leader

00:31:13 ◼   ► anyone

00:31:14 ◼   ► who

00:31:14 ◼   ► would

00:31:15 ◼   ► listen

00:31:15 ◼   ► wow

00:31:16 ◼   ► he must

00:31:16 ◼   ► have

00:31:16 ◼   ► said

00:31:17 ◼   ► that

00:31:17 ◼   ► to

00:31:17 ◼   ► other

00:31:17 ◼   ► people

00:31:17 ◼   ► he

00:31:18 ◼   ► makes

00:31:18 ◼   ► these

00:31:18 ◼   ► calls

00:31:19 ◼   ► to me

00:31:19 ◼   ► I

00:31:19 ◼   ► help

00:31:20 ◼   ► him

00:31:20 ◼   ► out

00:31:20 ◼   ► but not

00:31:20 ◼   ► always

00:31:21 ◼   ► because

00:31:21 ◼   ► he

00:31:22 ◼   ► will

00:31:22 ◼   ► on occasion

00:31:22 ◼   ► be too

00:31:23 ◼   ► aggressive

00:31:23 ◼   ► in his

00:31:24 ◼   ► ask

00:31:24 ◼   ► and he

00:31:25 ◼   ► gets

00:31:25 ◼   ► the job

00:31:26 ◼   ► done

00:31:26 ◼   ► quickly

00:31:26 ◼   ► without

00:31:27 ◼   ► a dime

00:31:28 ◼   ► being given

00:31:28 ◼   ► to those

00:31:29 ◼   ► very expensive

00:31:30 ◼   ► millions

00:31:31 ◼   ► of dollars

00:31:31 ◼   ► consultants

00:31:32 ◼   ► around town

00:31:33 ◼   ► who sometimes

00:31:33 ◼   ► get it done

00:31:34 ◼   ► and sometimes

00:31:35 ◼   ► don't

00:31:35 ◼   ► anyway

00:31:36 ◼   ► wrap it

00:31:39 ◼   ► up

00:31:40 ◼   ► anyway

00:31:42 ◼   ► Tim Cook

00:31:43 ◼   ► had an

00:31:43 ◼   ► amazing

00:31:44 ◼   ► career

00:31:45 ◼   ► almost

00:31:45 ◼   ► incomparable

00:31:46 ◼   ► and will

00:31:47 ◼   ► go on

00:31:47 ◼   ► and continue

00:31:48 ◼   ► to do

00:31:48 ◼   ► great work

00:31:49 ◼   ► for Apple

00:31:49 ◼   ► and whatever

00:31:50 ◼   ► else he

00:31:51 ◼   ► chooses to

00:31:51 ◼   ► work on

00:31:52 ◼   ► quite simply

00:31:52 ◼   ► Tim Cook

00:31:53 ◼   ► is an

00:31:53 ◼   ► incredible

00:31:54 ◼   ► guy

00:31:55 ◼   ► three

00:31:55 ◼   ► exclamation

00:31:56 ◼   ► marks

00:31:56 ◼   ► President

00:31:57 ◼   ► Donald

00:31:57 ◼   ► J

00:31:58 ◼   ► Trump

00:31:58 ◼   ► it's

00:32:00 ◼   ► amazing

00:32:00 ◼   ► it's just

00:32:01 ◼   ► incredible

00:32:01 ◼   ► what is

00:32:03 ◼   ► going on

00:32:04 ◼   ► what is

00:32:05 ◼   ► going on

00:32:05 ◼   ► I mean

00:32:06 ◼   ► just

00:32:07 ◼   ► our country

00:32:08 ◼   ► is

00:32:08 ◼   ► we're in

00:32:10 ◼   ► so much

00:32:10 ◼   ► trouble

00:32:10 ◼   ► I

00:32:13 ◼   ► linked to

00:32:14 ◼   ► this

00:32:14 ◼   ► and I

00:32:14 ◼   ► said

00:32:15 ◼   ► not if

00:32:15 ◼   ► you call

00:32:15 ◼   ► just the

00:32:16 ◼   ► right

00:32:16 ◼   ► amount

00:32:16 ◼   ► just the

00:32:17 ◼   ► right

00:32:17 ◼   ► amount

00:32:17 ◼   ► just the

00:32:18 ◼   ► right

00:32:18 ◼   ► amount

00:32:18 ◼   ► be too

00:32:19 ◼   ► aggressive

00:32:19 ◼   ► in his

00:32:19 ◼   ► ask

00:32:20 ◼   ► next time

00:32:21 ◼   ► my kids

00:32:21 ◼   ► say

00:32:21 ◼   ► something

00:32:22 ◼   ► like hey

00:32:22 ◼   ► dad can you

00:32:23 ◼   ► get me a

00:32:23 ◼   ► glass of

00:32:24 ◼   ► milk

00:32:24 ◼   ► you're too

00:32:25 ◼   ► aggressive

00:32:25 ◼   ► in your

00:32:26 ◼   ► ask

00:32:26 ◼   ► I don't

00:32:27 ◼   ► know

00:32:27 ◼   ► you're one

00:32:27 ◼   ► of big

00:32:28 ◼   ► helps

00:32:28 ◼   ► big helps

00:32:29 ◼   ► cook

00:32:31 ◼   ► cook

00:32:32 ◼   ► cook

00:32:33 ◼   ► Tim

00:32:33 ◼   ► Apple

00:32:34 ◼   ► cook

00:32:34 ◼   ► wait

00:32:35 ◼   ► where's

00:32:36 ◼   ► my

00:32:36 ◼   ► favorite

00:32:36 ◼   ► part

00:32:37 ◼   ► a

00:32:38 ◼   ► tough

00:32:39 ◼   ► one

00:32:39 ◼   ► it

00:32:39 ◼   ► was

00:32:39 ◼   ► anyway

00:32:41 ◼   ► he explained

00:32:42 ◼   ► his problem

00:32:43 ◼   ► a tough

00:32:43 ◼   ► one

00:32:43 ◼   ► it

00:32:43 ◼   ► was

00:32:44 ◼   ► can you

00:32:48 ◼   ► imagine

00:32:48 ◼   ► recounting

00:32:49 ◼   ► that while

00:32:49 ◼   ► he's smoking

00:32:50 ◼   ► a pipe

00:32:51 ◼   ► or something

00:32:51 ◼   ► it's like

00:32:52 ◼   ► a tough

00:32:52 ◼   ► one

00:32:52 ◼   ► it

00:32:52 ◼   ► was

00:32:52 ◼   ► but like

00:32:53 ◼   ► can you

00:32:53 ◼   ► imagine

00:32:54 ◼   ► being

00:32:54 ◼   ► Tim

00:32:54 ◼   ► cook

00:32:54 ◼   ► and like

00:32:55 ◼   ► he's

00:32:55 ◼   ► like

00:32:55 ◼   ► sir

00:32:56 ◼   ► the

00:32:57 ◼   ► president

00:32:57 ◼   ► posted

00:32:58 ◼   ► about

00:32:58 ◼   ► you

00:32:58 ◼   ► and then

00:32:58 ◼   ► he sits

00:32:59 ◼   ► and reads

00:32:59 ◼   ► this

00:32:59 ◼   ► you know

00:33:00 ◼   ► what I

00:33:00 ◼   ► mean

00:33:00 ◼   ► is so

00:33:02 ◼   ► embarrassing

00:33:03 ◼   ► big helps

00:33:03 ◼   ► sir

00:33:04 ◼   ► we have

00:33:05 ◼   ► a statement

00:33:05 ◼   ► from the

00:33:05 ◼   ► president

00:33:06 ◼   ► about your

00:33:07 ◼   ► retirement

00:33:07 ◼   ► and it's

00:33:09 ◼   ► this

00:33:09 ◼   ► and you

00:33:10 ◼   ► know

00:33:10 ◼   ► that when

00:33:11 ◼   ► they say

00:33:11 ◼   ► he goes

00:33:12 ◼   ► oh

00:33:12 ◼   ► because it's

00:33:13 ◼   ► like

00:33:13 ◼   ► there's

00:33:14 ◼   ► no good

00:33:14 ◼   ► there's

00:33:15 ◼   ► no good

00:33:16 ◼   ► result

00:33:16 ◼   ► to that

00:33:16 ◼   ► statement

00:33:18 ◼   ► right

00:33:18 ◼   ► to him

00:33:18 ◼   ► saying

00:33:19 ◼   ► to someone

00:33:19 ◼   ► coming to

00:33:20 ◼   ► sir

00:33:20 ◼   ► the president

00:33:21 ◼   ► has posted

00:33:21 ◼   ► about you

00:33:21 ◼   ► retiring

00:33:22 ◼   ► how many

00:33:25 ◼   ► how many

00:33:26 ◼   ► exclamation

00:33:26 ◼   ► points

00:33:27 ◼   ► did he

00:33:27 ◼   ► use

00:33:27 ◼   ► yeah

00:33:29 ◼   ► I

00:33:30 ◼   ► I

00:33:30 ◼   ► I

00:33:30 ◼   ► I

00:33:31 ◼   ► linked

00:33:31 ◼   ► to it

00:33:31 ◼   ► and I

00:33:31 ◼   ► said

00:33:31 ◼   ► it's

00:33:31 ◼   ► a

00:33:31 ◼   ► presidential

00:33:32 ◼   ► proclamation

00:33:32 ◼   ► all right

00:33:35 ◼   ► this is not

00:33:36 ◼   ► the point

00:33:36 ◼   ► of today

00:33:37 ◼   ► I'm just

00:33:38 ◼   ► going to

00:33:38 ◼   ► say it

00:33:38 ◼   ► a bunch

00:33:40 ◼   ► of a bunch

00:33:41 ◼   ► of tech

00:33:41 ◼   ► press ran

00:33:42 ◼   ► this and

00:33:43 ◼   ► like went

00:33:44 ◼   ► out of the

00:33:44 ◼   ► way to

00:33:44 ◼   ► clean up

00:33:45 ◼   ► the grammar

00:33:45 ◼   ► like you

00:33:46 ◼   ► read it as

00:33:47 ◼   ► an on as

00:33:48 ◼   ► a one

00:33:49 ◼   ► thing because

00:33:49 ◼   ► it's one

00:33:50 ◼   ► paragraph

00:33:50 ◼   ► yes

00:33:51 ◼   ► don't

00:33:52 ◼   ► you don't

00:33:52 ◼   ► have to

00:33:53 ◼   ► do that

00:33:53 ◼   ► don't do

00:33:53 ◼   ► that

00:33:54 ◼   ► like there

00:33:55 ◼   ► there's some

00:33:55 ◼   ► terms for

00:33:56 ◼   ► that some

00:33:56 ◼   ► of them I

00:33:56 ◼   ► don't like

00:33:57 ◼   ► some of

00:33:57 ◼   ► them you

00:33:57 ◼   ► know a

00:33:58 ◼   ► little

00:33:58 ◼   ► problematic

00:33:58 ◼   ► but the

00:34:00 ◼   ► idea that

00:34:00 ◼   ► you have

00:34:00 ◼   ► to like

00:34:01 ◼   ► wash the

00:34:02 ◼   ► president's

00:34:03 ◼   ► language

00:34:03 ◼   ► like just

00:34:05 ◼   ► the man has

00:34:06 ◼   ► lost his

00:34:07 ◼   ► mind

00:34:07 ◼   ► anyway right

00:34:09 ◼   ► like he's

00:34:10 ◼   ► the president

00:34:10 ◼   ► this is what

00:34:10 ◼   ► he said

00:34:11 ◼   ► it is what

00:34:12 ◼   ► he said

00:34:12 ◼   ► big help

00:34:13 ◼   ► he said

00:34:13 ◼   ► big big

00:34:14 ◼   ► helps

00:34:14 ◼   ► that is

00:34:16 ◼   ► true

00:34:16 ◼   ► Zoe said

00:34:17 ◼   ► I did

00:34:18 ◼   ► censor

00:34:18 ◼   ► I didn't

00:34:19 ◼   ► use the

00:34:19 ◼   ► three-letter

00:34:20 ◼   ► word I

00:34:20 ◼   ► said but

00:34:21 ◼   ► so Stephen

00:34:21 ◼   ► I'm sorry

00:34:22 ◼   ► yeah wow

00:34:23 ◼   ► you sir

00:34:24 ◼   ► I know

00:34:25 ◼   ► are a

00:34:26 ◼   ► Trump supporter

00:34:26 ◼   ► back to

00:34:27 ◼   ► back to

00:34:28 ◼   ► Apple and

00:34:28 ◼   ► these executives

00:34:29 ◼   ► can I ask

00:34:30 ◼   ► something that

00:34:31 ◼   ► everybody's

00:34:31 ◼   ► thinking but

00:34:32 ◼   ► everybody's also

00:34:33 ◼   ► too afraid to

00:34:34 ◼   ► ask I love

00:34:35 ◼   ► it he asks

00:34:35 ◼   ► the big

00:34:36 ◼   ► question is

00:34:36 ◼   ► it wrong

00:34:37 ◼   ► to objectify

00:34:38 ◼   ► John

00:34:38 ◼   ► Ternus

00:34:39 ◼   ► I think

00:34:41 ◼   ► is it

00:34:42 ◼   ► morally

00:34:43 ◼   ► wrong I

00:34:43 ◼   ► mean yeah

00:34:44 ◼   ► okay let's

00:34:44 ◼   ► face it I

00:34:44 ◼   ► mean the

00:34:45 ◼   ► guy's hot

00:34:45 ◼   ► okay

00:34:46 ◼   ► I think

00:34:47 ◼   ► that's fine

00:34:48 ◼   ► to say

00:34:48 ◼   ► okay

00:34:49 ◼   ► right

00:34:50 ◼   ► okay it's

00:34:51 ◼   ► probably a

00:34:52 ◼   ► spectrum

00:34:52 ◼   ► right

00:34:53 ◼   ► yeah

00:34:53 ◼   ► should Apple

00:34:55 ◼   ► lean especially

00:34:56 ◼   ► on the on

00:34:57 ◼   ► TikTok into

00:34:58 ◼   ► the fact that

00:34:59 ◼   ► they have a

00:35:00 ◼   ► hot CEO

00:35:01 ◼   ► well I think

00:35:01 ◼   ► they already

00:35:02 ◼   ► have though

00:35:03 ◼   ► right because

00:35:04 ◼   ► they picked

00:35:04 ◼   ► the hot

00:35:05 ◼   ► guy

00:35:05 ◼   ► no but

00:35:06 ◼   ► the picture

00:35:06 ◼   ► maybe the

00:35:08 ◼   ► problem is

00:35:08 ◼   ► every picture

00:35:09 ◼   ► is this way

00:35:10 ◼   ► so you kind

00:35:10 ◼   ► of can't get

00:35:11 ◼   ► away from it

00:35:12 ◼   ► problem

00:35:12 ◼   ► it's a good

00:35:13 ◼   ► problem to

00:35:13 ◼   ► have

00:35:14 ◼   ► you know

00:35:14 ◼   ► what this

00:35:14 ◼   ► picture reminds

00:35:15 ◼   ► me of

00:35:15 ◼   ► the one of

00:35:16 ◼   ► him sitting

00:35:16 ◼   ► on the

00:35:17 ◼   ► table

00:35:17 ◼   ► the last

00:35:18 ◼   ► time

00:35:18 ◼   ► oh yeah

00:35:19 ◼   ► I thought