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255a: Summer Superhero Spectacular: Central City Region


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00:00:39   subsection a Comic Con 2015 welcome back [TS]

00:00:46   everybody to be uncomfortable something [TS]

00:00:47   very special we're doing by specialty we [TS]

00:00:49   don't know what we're doing and it's [TS]

00:00:51   crazy and it's even worse than a draft [TS]

00:00:53   we have decided to perform this summer a [TS]

00:00:56   a tournament if you will of comic-book [TS]

00:00:59   superheroes or superhero in general not [TS]

00:01:02   all of them necessarily from the comics [TS]

00:01:03   almost entirely 64 heroes will enter our [TS]

00:01:07   arena and in the end one hero will be [TS]

00:01:10   crowned the incomparable superhero [TS]

00:01:12   champion and it's all meaningless [TS]

00:01:15   oh god why are we doing this here's how [TS]

00:01:18   it's going to work [TS]

00:01:19   i am your host i have i have consulted [TS]

00:01:22   with a team of experts to create a 64 [TS]

00:01:24   superhero bracket they've been ranked [TS]

00:01:27   you should be able to find a link to the [TS]

00:01:29   tournament bracket in the show notes and [TS]

00:01:33   I i have i have brought some of our fine [TS]

00:01:35   panels together to to defend the honor [TS]

00:01:38   of these heroes the way it's going to [TS]

00:01:41   work is we have 32 pairings in the first [TS]

00:01:45   round there are a couple playing games [TS]

00:01:47   in honor of the n-c-double-a for its [TS]

00:01:49   ridiculous playing games in the NCH [TS]

00:01:50   basketball tournament but generally we [TS]

00:01:53   have 64 teams are 64 heroes 32 matchups [TS]

00:01:57   each in this episode each hero will have [TS]

00:02:01   about a minute statement from an [TS]

00:02:03   advocate of there and then a cruel panel [TS]

00:02:07   of judges will decide the victor [TS]

00:02:10   the cruel panel of judges are these two [TS]

00:02:13   gentlemen Philip Michaels hello hello [TS]

00:02:16   are you ready to be a cruel judge i have [TS]

00:02:19   been training to be cruel all my life [TS]

00:02:21   and Steve let's is the other member of [TS]

00:02:24   the judging panel [TS]

00:02:25   hi Steve hello there Jason although this [TS]

00:02:27   may be the dumbest thing we've ever done [TS]

00:02:29   I will endeavor to be a fair and [TS]

00:02:32   impartial judge we're gonna do a bracket [TS]

00:02:37   for the dumbest thing the copper was [TS]

00:02:38   ever done because that listen to draft i [TS]

00:02:41   hear a draft stupid episode dump draft I [TS]

00:02:45   i have opinion six summer should fill [TS]

00:02:49   and Steve were both agreeable chaps not [TS]

00:02:52   not be able to agree that may be the [TS]

00:02:55   dumbest thing you've ever done [TS]

00:02:56   Steve higher like two peas in a pod then [TS]

00:02:59   then in the end he will be my job to [TS]

00:03:02   break the tie and declare a winner [TS]

00:03:05   each hero wins moves on to the round of [TS]

00:03:07   32 each hero who loses his sent to the [TS]

00:03:10   negative zone of our hearts they become [TS]

00:03:13   the Legion of substitute heroes [TS]

00:03:14   something like that so i will introduce [TS]

00:03:19   our advocates in this round our [TS]

00:03:22   advocates are chips under hello hello [TS]

00:03:25   Dan Morgan hello it's only now hitting [TS]

00:03:28   me how terrible an idea this is really [TS]

00:03:31   took that long how Charlie's got [TS]

00:03:32   everything easy and you're losing every [TS]

00:03:34   debate tonight more and haha indian taco [TS]

00:03:38   is also an advocate hello Jason you you [TS]

00:03:40   have to start calling yourself the [TS]

00:03:41   Grandmaster that's that's the only way [TS]

00:03:43   to give this thing legitimacy really [TS]

00:03:45   this is a contest of Champions Lisa [TS]

00:03:48   Schmeisser is also an advocate hello hi [TS]

00:03:50   there [TS]

00:03:51   Monty Ashley an advocate for his cause [TS]

00:03:54   xlc or and Tony sindelar hello nerds [TS]

00:03:59   alright like and tony is doing his best [TS]

00:04:02   to court the audience early on [TS]

00:04:03   he's getting ready he sounds like he's [TS]

00:04:05   number of himself LOL i am a little [TS]

00:04:08   intimidated you know I feel like I know [TS]

00:04:09   a lot about comic books and then you see [TS]

00:04:11   you see ELISA and Monty and and and [TS]

00:04:14   other folks across the table from you [TS]

00:04:16   and you're like huh what did I sign up [TS]

00:04:18   for again so you know in any in your [TS]

00:04:21   favorite Tony uh [TS]

00:04:22   L&I the the judges are probably the [TS]

00:04:25   least knowledgeable people on comics in [TS]

00:04:27   the known universe [TS]

00:04:29   well I don't know how that helps which [TS]

00:04:31   one of you is advocating for Richie Rich [TS]

00:04:33   tonight because he was really cool [TS]

00:04:35   meeting Richard versatile enough [TS]

00:04:38   Eileen Casper I don't know eat the rich [TS]

00:04:41   eat the rich he has some sanctions [TS]

00:04:43   against him and is not eligible for [TS]

00:04:45   postseason play lego it's like Oh in the [TS]

00:04:47   bracket so here's how this this round [TS]

00:04:50   will work each advocates going to [TS]

00:04:51   advocate for their their hero for a [TS]

00:04:53   minute [TS]

00:04:54   they're not into the the in this round [TS]

00:04:56   we're not looking for arguments about [TS]

00:04:58   why their hero is better than the other [TS]

00:05:00   hero we would just like to hear an [TS]

00:05:03   argument about why this particular hero [TS]

00:05:05   is great or awesome or cool or whatever [TS]

00:05:08   something positive about their hero the [TS]

00:05:10   beginning about a minute their opponent [TS]

00:05:12   will be given about a minute and then [TS]

00:05:13   the judges will render their verdict so [TS]

00:05:16   consider this I hate to say this a lot a [TS]

00:05:19   series of lightning rounds which means [TS]

00:05:21   you'll be here there's a part 1 of 10 we [TS]

00:05:26   begin in the central city region it with [TS]

00:05:31   a matchup between a number one seed and [TS]

00:05:34   a number 16 seed but first we must hear [TS]

00:05:36   the results of a plan match played [TS]

00:05:38   earlier between marvels of the beast and [TS]

00:05:42   DC's Hawkman Andy and not co who was the [TS]

00:05:45   victor of the Beast versus Hawkman [TS]

00:05:48   playing games a beast wanna walk over [TS]

00:05:51   because all the different Hawk men that [TS]

00:05:53   DC has predicted couldn't decide who's [TS]

00:05:55   gonna pick to the field time ran out and [TS]

00:05:57   beats one and a default all right [TS]

00:05:59   that said that is part of that is a good [TS]

00:06:01   way to start so beat beast Henry McCoy [TS]

00:06:05   will be going against he's the number 16 [TS]

00:06:07   seed we going against top-seeded a [TS]

00:06:09   central city region the amazing [TS]

00:06:11   spider-man advocated by Dan more'n the [TS]

00:06:15   low seed goes first because i just [TS]

00:06:17   decided that Amy on you have a minute to [TS]

00:06:20   advocate for the Beast please go ahead [TS]

00:06:23   Thank You Grand Master denise is awesome [TS]

00:06:26   because he's a genius who beats all the [TS]

00:06:28   usual tropes of a fictional genius and [TS]

00:06:30   that he's currently one of the [TS]

00:06:32   Illuminati so he's definitely talk to [TS]

00:06:33   her but he's fun-loving he's socially [TS]

00:06:35   well it [TS]

00:06:36   adjusted he jokes around he's never had [TS]

00:06:38   a drive towards megalomania and all of [TS]

00:06:40   that is at odds with the fact that he's [TS]

00:06:42   you know a beast he supposed to be a [TS]

00:06:44   gorilla or a cat either way he's [TS]

00:06:46   supposedly blue let's put that aside but [TS]

00:06:49   that's cool anyway even there he's [TS]

00:06:50   pretty much spin steered clear of all [TS]

00:06:52   the troops of being a beast he's not [TS]

00:06:54   struggling for acceptance of the world [TS]

00:06:55   that fears and judges and yes but only [TS]

00:06:57   in the sense that he's a mutant he feels [TS]

00:06:59   like he's a light towards mutants he's [TS]

00:07:01   not just a beast he's not particularly [TS]

00:07:03   weird looking within that group so he [TS]

00:07:05   feels familiar there have been some [TS]

00:07:07   storylines were they get him into being [TS]

00:07:08   a misfit yes used to wear a rubber human [TS]

00:07:10   guy mass but the stories about Hank [TS]

00:07:12   McCoy tend to focus on the person the [TS]

00:07:14   character [TS]

00:07:14   moreover he's working for mutant rights [TS]

00:07:16   in addition to fighting he's and he's [TS]

00:07:19   got an interesting point of view and [TS]

00:07:20   that he sometimes with the Avengers [TS]

00:07:21   sometimes with the x-men he fights with [TS]

00:07:24   and alongside and against all of them [TS]

00:07:25   and he associates him with the the [TS]

00:07:29   people feel as though it's possible that [TS]

00:07:30   from us become part of society so he's [TS]

00:07:32   aspirational McCoy is an aspirational [TS]

00:07:35   character and that's why he's awesome [TS]

00:07:37   also because he's blue [TS]

00:07:38   alright he's blue Dan Morgan please [TS]

00:07:41   advocate for spider-man counter-argument [TS]

00:07:44   is T spider-man so he's got no damn [TS]

00:07:49   still not a bad man are you doing it [TS]

00:07:52   through these to go down the list now he [TS]

00:07:54   didn't result in whatever a spider can [TS]

00:07:56   expensive web spider man you yes yeah [TS]

00:08:00   can I have some questions for you please [TS]

00:08:02   please i'm happy to answer questions how [TS]

00:08:05   down my first question is is he strong [TS]

00:08:07   boy [TS]

00:08:09   yes yes god no I'm sorry [TS]

00:08:12   listen was directed to the answer I was [TS]

00:08:15   looking for was listen Bob he's got your [TS]

00:08:18   two black no idea apparently because I [TS]

00:08:21   was not finished with my well this [TS]

00:08:23   totally rating which his ability to spin [TS]

00:08:25   a web at any size any any size giant [TS]

00:08:28   city wide web [TS]

00:08:29   sure why not and gas and more'n another [TS]

00:08:31   question can he catch thieves [TS]

00:08:34   here's your friendly neighborhood [TS]

00:08:35   spider-man no I'm sorry I just like a [TS]

00:08:38   nice [TS]

00:08:39   I'm delighted in beating Cathy job [TS]

00:08:42   Darrell ignore the middle are my answers [TS]

00:08:45   an exciting around one upset huh [TS]

00:08:48   I got a dare you you are definitely [TS]

00:08:49   playing the part of a public defender [TS]

00:08:51   your heart is not in this you just want [TS]

00:08:53   to get to the next item on your docket [TS]

00:08:55   ok now let me notice how I nobody [TS]

00:08:57   heckled Andy during his wrath so let's [TS]

00:08:59   say yes we made it a very you would see [TS]

00:09:02   it's need anything we're done with the [TS]

00:09:05   meeting how I thought it would be like [TS]

00:09:07   three or so before we went off the rails [TS]

00:09:08   don't have you been listening to this [TS]

00:09:11   podcast you get Tony really know you [TS]

00:09:13   guys are awful i don't listen [TS]

00:09:16   judges I'll go first [TS]

00:09:19   um I stand behind no man in my [TS]

00:09:24   admiration for the Beast however [TS]

00:09:25   spider-man is one of the great iconic [TS]

00:09:29   superhero figures [TS]

00:09:31   however times to Dan Morris defensive [TS]

00:09:35   Spiderman was as weak as a kitten [TS]

00:09:39   I rule in favor of the beast [TS]

00:09:43   wow there's a careful boys that's great [TS]

00:09:46   yeah I agree [TS]

00:09:50   spider-man is iconic he's he's a hero I [TS]

00:09:53   grew up with loving he's out there on [TS]

00:09:56   his own he's not hanging out with some [TS]

00:09:57   team of fellow nerds [TS]

00:09:59   finally somebody is making a good [TS]

00:10:00   argument for spider-man girls garage [TS]

00:10:07   guys I can't in good conscience go with [TS]

00:10:10   the Beast I've got to go spider-man but [TS]

00:10:12   in future rounds i fully expect someone [TS]

00:10:15   to sing the entirety of the spider-man [TS]

00:10:18   song if I were to sing the spider-man [TS]

00:10:21   song with thats where vote at this [TS]

00:10:22   juncture [TS]

00:10:23   only if you sing about beast beast email [TS]

00:10:27   whatever a beastie kid can he look like [TS]

00:10:31   a cat [TS]

00:10:32   yes he can look at that watch out he is [TS]

00:10:35   the beastie man allow it [TS]

00:10:38   we're still in the first one there we [TS]

00:10:40   have we have we are still in the first [TS]

00:10:41   one Monty we we have the judges are [TS]

00:10:44   split 121 I will cast the deciding vote [TS]

00:10:46   despite inns in confidence i will say [TS]

00:10:51   well I man is better than the Beast [TS]

00:10:53   spider-man moves on but it was well [TS]

00:10:56   played so it's always what it was i'm [TS]

00:10:57   told now that I can heckle during any of [TS]

00:11:00   these is what is what the gloves are off [TS]

00:11:01   interesting idea but ok once you're done [TS]

00:11:04   I i think no no III don't think your [TS]

00:11:05   gender roles here i think i think the [TS]

00:11:07   rules are what we make I think that may [TS]

00:11:09   be that may be true until we until we [TS]

00:11:11   decide the rules until we for you force [TS]

00:11:13   us to make rules [TS]

00:11:14   let's move on to our next matchup in [TS]

00:11:16   Central City Region the eighth seed [TS]

00:11:19   Aquaman friend to all the fish will be a [TS]

00:11:23   will be advocated by Lisa Schmeisser [TS]

00:11:25   against one of two blue beetles in our [TS]

00:11:28   tournament this the ted kord version of [TS]

00:11:31   the Blue Beetle who is going to be [TS]

00:11:33   advocated by chips under that tough [TS]

00:11:35   eight verses 9 matchup Louis egos first [TS]

00:11:38   chip please speak for Ted Kord the Blue [TS]

00:11:42   Beetle ok guys wrap your brain around [TS]

00:11:45   this wild concept a millionaire with [TS]

00:11:49   high-tech gadgetry but no superpowers [TS]

00:11:51   puts on a suit and fights crime that's [TS]

00:11:55   gonna done [TS]

00:11:56   oh sorry now this guy's this guy's [TS]

00:11:57   battle cry is however just forwards [TS]

00:12:01   wah-ha-ha-ha I give you a character [TS]

00:12:06   created by spider-man creator steve [TS]

00:12:08   ditko a wisecracking insecure acrobatic [TS]

00:12:12   guy with a gun that shoots i kid you not [TS]

00:12:15   burst of compressed air or it acts like [TS]

00:12:19   a strobe light [TS]

00:12:20   so why is Blue Beetle a member of the [TS]

00:12:22   historic and histrionic justice league [TS]

00:12:26   international one of the great super [TS]

00:12:28   heroes of all time because he's fun [TS]

00:12:31   good-natured and he symbolizes the best [TS]

00:12:33   of DC comics in the late eighties [TS]

00:12:35   something that you rarely see in today's [TS]

00:12:37   comics a sense of humor [TS]

00:12:41   Thank You chip Lisa please speak for [TS]

00:12:44   Aquaman [TS]

00:12:47   seventy percent of the globe is covered [TS]

00:12:50   in water there is all of one dude who's [TS]

00:12:53   in charge of all of it from the deepest [TS]

00:12:55   trenches to the most beautiful [TS]

00:12:57   pollination shallows he doesn't despite [TS]

00:13:00   merciless mockery from people who could [TS]

00:13:02   who assume that that he's the useless [TS]

00:13:04   dude from the nineteen seventies Justice [TS]

00:13:06   League cartoons he Brooks no crap and he [TS]

00:13:12   uses his telepathic animal talking [TS]

00:13:14   abilities to do things like have wells [TS]

00:13:15   generate tsunamis he pals around with [TS]

00:13:17   sharks Aquaman is is is he takes no got [TS]

00:13:21   off anybody which is exactly what you [TS]

00:13:23   want from again somebody who has the [TS]

00:13:24   power to hang out with sharks and you [TS]

00:13:26   want him on your side for that then I [TS]

00:13:29   rest my case I always good one advocate [TS]

00:13:33   ends with the sound effects boom that [TS]

00:13:36   question for mishmar sir [TS]

00:13:39   uh-huh go for Aquaman have a hook for a [TS]

00:13:43   hand as a matter of fact judge he does [TS]

00:13:47   have a hook for a hand and he often [TS]

00:13:49   screws on different things to excuse [TS]

00:13:51   it's not just a hook sometimes it's a [TS]

00:13:52   pretend to hand that has superpowers [TS]

00:13:55   sometimes it can have rope so he can [TS]

00:13:57   cast out and catch things or a spatula [TS]

00:14:00   does this hook shoot compressed air and [TS]

00:14:02   or strobe lights [TS]

00:14:04   no that's why he has fish because there [TS]

00:14:06   are actually animals and that they're [TS]

00:14:07   actually animals under the sea that can [TS]

00:14:09   do both in lethal amounts well sure if [TS]

00:14:11   you want something that'll shoot [TS]

00:14:13   compressed air for you [TS]

00:14:15   legal amount of strobe light until it [TS]

00:14:18   you don't look a market leadership is [TS]

00:14:19   know when to delegate and when they have [TS]

00:14:20   other people play to their own strength [TS]

00:14:22   or other fish I think something's off [TS]

00:14:24   here this is not meant to be a debate [TS]

00:14:25   it's two statements and then we move on [TS]

00:14:27   judges I've heard all I need to hear [TS]

00:14:29   Aquaman has a hook for a hand there for [TS]

00:14:32   Aquaman is the winning superhero Steve [TS]

00:14:35   uh you know it's I'm excited about the [TS]

00:14:39   gun that shoots compressed air that [TS]

00:14:40   sounds pretty great [TS]

00:14:42   not sure what he does exactly make you [TS]

00:14:46   laugh i think but yeah that's true [TS]

00:14:48   that's true but i gotta go Aquaman to [TS]

00:14:52   largely because Lisa led with the exact [TS]

00:14:54   same argument that I used when I picked [TS]

00:14:56   Aquaman the superhero drive it [TS]

00:14:59   sucking up to the judges never hurts and [TS]

00:15:01   argue with the volume of water on the [TS]

00:15:03   surface of the planet Earth Aquaman [TS]

00:15:05   moves on to the next round [TS]

00:15:07   by a vote of 220 [TS]

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00:16:24   and we move on to our next pairing in [TS]

00:16:29   the central city region number five seed [TS]

00:16:31   the Silver Surfer advocated by Monty [TS]

00:16:34   going up against the number 12 seed the [TS]

00:16:36   she-hulk actually advocated by Lisa Lisa [TS]

00:16:39   please speak your mind about she-hulk [TS]

00:16:42   think one of the great things about [TS]

00:16:45   she-hulk is how she embraces female [TS]

00:16:47   stereotypes and then completely supports [TS]

00:16:49   them [TS]

00:16:50   she's unabashedly female even when she's [TS]

00:16:52   giant in green and filled with muscles [TS]

00:16:54   and she's fun-loving she parties she [TS]

00:16:57   likes hooking up with folks she goes to [TS]

00:16:59   the beach and she fights crime and she's [TS]

00:17:01   a lawyer [TS]

00:17:02   this is somebody whose entire character [TS]

00:17:04   quest has been about embracing and [TS]

00:17:06   integrating all of the different aspects [TS]

00:17:08   of the personality that make herself and [TS]

00:17:10   that makes it one of the most honest and [TS]

00:17:12   transparent superheroes in the candidate [TS]

00:17:14   it also makes a really happy exception [TS]

00:17:16   to the whole no one must know about my [TS]

00:17:18   secret identity thing going on [TS]

00:17:20   so because she doesn't have that baggage [TS]

00:17:22   and because she does a good job of [TS]

00:17:24   trying to stay true to herself while [TS]

00:17:25   also taking advantage of with her brain [TS]

00:17:27   and her bra on [TS]

00:17:28   she hulk is super awesome all right [TS]

00:17:31   Monty the Silver Surfer the Silver [TS]

00:17:35   Surfer looks great [TS]

00:17:38   that awful Fantastic Four movie he [TS]

00:17:40   looked awesome that doesn't like the [TS]

00:17:42   idea of a dude just surfing around outer [TS]

00:17:44   space and occasionally having cosmic [TS]

00:17:46   powers [TS]

00:17:46   he's basically our entree into the whole [TS]

00:17:48   Marvel cosmic universe that she [TS]

00:17:51   originally appeared as Galactus Herald [TS]

00:17:53   coming down to earth and saying look out [TS]

00:17:55   we're gonna eat your planet after that [TS]

00:17:57   he had his own series where he spent [TS]

00:17:59   every panel moping about how awful life [TS]

00:18:02   was as a cosmic power being he's the [TS]

00:18:05   ultimate tortured hero and in conclusion [TS]

00:18:07   surfing is totally cool alright strong [TS]

00:18:10   point there Monty I judges let's start [TS]

00:18:13   with Steve what you're already thought [TS]

00:18:14   about silver surfer vs she-hulk [TS]

00:18:16   interesting I can't disagree that Silver [TS]

00:18:19   Surfer looks great he is one of the [TS]

00:18:21   coolest looking here as well time [TS]

00:18:22   although the moping aspect of things [TS]

00:18:24   kind of drag him down a little bit [TS]

00:18:26   she-hulk interestingly lot of female [TS]

00:18:30   scenario types it seems like she does [TS]

00:18:32   she goes to the beach he hooks up with [TS]

00:18:33   folks she does it all she sounds a [TS]

00:18:35   little like green Barbie to me so it's a [TS]

00:18:39   it's a tough decision on this one for me [TS]

00:18:42   but I'm gonna have to lean with joe [TS]

00:18:45   satriani and go silver surfer [TS]

00:18:47   interesting film [TS]

00:18:48   well I don't believe either of these [TS]

00:18:51   heroes has a hook for a hand so you can [TS]

00:18:53   find some other evaluated measure it's [TS]

00:18:57   interesting that silver surfers [TS]

00:18:59   mentioned quite prominently in the movie [TS]

00:19:01   crimson tide which is a delightful [TS]

00:19:04   motion picture however silver surfer is [TS]

00:19:07   also featured in the movie called the [TS]

00:19:09   Fantastic Four to which is a terrible [TS]

00:19:12   motion picture i must decide with she [TS]

00:19:16   halkan that's the shit this dishes did [TS]

00:19:19   this decision [TS]

00:19:20   yeah I appealed this decision on the [TS]

00:19:22   grounds that you get pronounce it a [TS]

00:19:25   sustained what do you appeal the [TS]

00:19:28   decision [TS]

00:19:29   No [TS]

00:19:31   world my role for she-hulk add this is a [TS]

00:19:35   very difficult one for me I think both [TS]

00:19:38   arguments were excellent i think these [TS]

00:19:40   are interesting character she Hulka a [TS]

00:19:42   modern character with a lot of a lot of [TS]

00:19:44   things to support her silver surfer the [TS]

00:19:47   history from the Galactic moment up to [TS]

00:19:50   the present day the current Silver [TS]

00:19:51   Surfer comic very interesting as well [TS]

00:19:53   and kind of a departure [TS]

00:19:54   I feel like I'm in the end I think she [TS]

00:19:57   hulk has had even more a self-titled [TS]

00:20:00   series cancelled than silver surfer [TS]

00:20:02   although both of them have been [TS]

00:20:03   cancelled the whole lot in me and I'm [TS]

00:20:06   going to buy a nose i'm going to pick [TS]

00:20:08   the Silver Surfer so silver surfer [TS]

00:20:11   advances to one so close buzzer-beater [TS]

00:20:13   therefore the Silver Surfer use the [TS]

00:20:15   power cosmic centuries real sorry [TS]

00:20:18   shulkie sorry Rocky III love the love [TS]

00:20:21   she helped but sadly we must move on our [TS]

00:20:23   next matchup in the central city region [TS]

00:20:25   4 seed kitty pryde of the x-men [TS]

00:20:28   advocated by Lisa against number 13 [TS]

00:20:32   jonah hex advocated by Tony sindelar [TS]

00:20:34   Tony you are the underdog in so many [TS]

00:20:38   ways please advocate for jonah hex now I [TS]

00:20:42   don't we have underdog in the lineup [TS]

00:20:44   oh my god is and I hate myself also [TS]

00:20:46   recruiting violations made underdog not [TS]

00:20:49   liable to this turn [TS]

00:20:51   well performance-enhancing drugs um he [TS]

00:20:53   Jonah Hex may require some introduction [TS]

00:20:55   because i'm guessing not many folks here [TS]

00:20:57   have read jonah hex comic and I'm not [TS]

00:20:59   going to tie him to the very unfortunate [TS]

00:21:01   just full movie [TS]

00:21:02   don't don't pay any attention to that so [TS]

00:21:04   Jonah Hex is a classic DC comics from [TS]

00:21:06   the Wild West and occasionally the weird [TS]

00:21:09   supernatural west and he is a former [TS]

00:21:12   Confederate soldier turned bounty hunter [TS]

00:21:14   and his he does not really have any [TS]

00:21:16   superpowers other than kind of being [TS]

00:21:18   very ugly and unkillable and he goes on [TS]

00:21:22   various adventures in the Old West [TS]

00:21:23   shooting people wrestling wild animals [TS]

00:21:25   collecting bounties and he is kind of [TS]

00:21:28   your your classic hard-drinking cynical [TS]

00:21:31   antihero always looking for his next [TS]

00:21:33   dollar he's basically Philip michaels [TS]

00:21:35   with a hat done [TS]

00:21:37   oh interesting alright I'm gonna vote [TS]

00:21:39   kitty pryde [TS]

00:21:42   interesting we will have a debate later [TS]

00:21:43   about whether we really ugly is a [TS]

00:21:45   superpower or not [TS]

00:21:47   Lisa kitty pryde please go ahead and [TS]

00:21:50   discuss keeper [TS]

00:21:51   perhaps her her most profound superpower [TS]

00:21:54   is the fact that she was introduced to [TS]

00:21:56   the x-men as a proto Wesley Crusher IE [TS]

00:21:59   and precocious teenager with [TS]

00:22:01   supernatural gifts and yet she managed [TS]

00:22:03   to completely support that the trope and [TS]

00:22:05   became instead one of the linchpins of [TS]

00:22:08   the x-men franchise from her [TS]

00:22:09   introduction of the early eighties to [TS]

00:22:11   today [TS]

00:22:11   kitty pryde has the power to phase [TS]

00:22:13   through objects sure and that's [TS]

00:22:14   interesting because she can drop through [TS]

00:22:16   things you can disappear when necessary [TS]

00:22:18   she can alter the physical properties of [TS]

00:22:20   people she touches and she's a genius [TS]

00:22:21   which is super handy too but she's also [TS]

00:22:24   one of them the beating hearts of the [TS]

00:22:26   x-men she brought out the humanity and [TS]

00:22:28   the better impulses and people like [TS]

00:22:30   storm and wolverine and her colleague [TS]

00:22:34   Colossus she has been a bear for human [TS]

00:22:37   human and or mutant rights are asking [TS]

00:22:40   people to consider the inherent humanity [TS]

00:22:43   anisole no matter what your gifts and [TS]

00:22:46   she is also the reason that she's also [TS]

00:22:49   been a really graceful transition point [TS]

00:22:51   for spin-offs like the new mutants and X [TS]

00:22:54   Factor Excalibur a lot of teams that [TS]

00:22:56   have gone on and a lab utility is it [TS]

00:22:59   were to spread across the globe and make [TS]

00:23:01   the world a better place [TS]

00:23:02   so there we go Thank You judges [TS]

00:23:06   Phil let's start with you he's looking [TS]

00:23:09   for a hat to wear [TS]

00:23:11   okay I appreciate the fact that mr. [TS]

00:23:15   sindelar if I may call him that [TS]

00:23:18   who has compared me to jonah hex with a [TS]

00:23:22   hat mainly in demeanor in demeanor and [TS]

00:23:24   world philosophy i cannot get past the [TS]

00:23:26   fact that jonah hex is ugly [TS]

00:23:28   well not to see you know he had the mark [TS]

00:23:34   of demon if you got the market be sure [TS]

00:23:35   to find you in contempt i roll for Kitty [TS]

00:23:37   Pryde I'll you know I know you but you [TS]

00:23:40   know I i see how this coordinate [TS]

00:23:43   it's not possible uh Terry Hollywood [TS]

00:23:46   about this steve what is your ruling I [TS]

00:23:48   do like the hard-drinking supernatural [TS]

00:23:50   types out but i was listening to [TS]

00:23:53   releases advocacy and I I was kind of my [TS]

00:23:57   eyes bugged out when I heard her start [TS]

00:23:59   with proto Wesley Crusher as though that [TS]

00:24:01   was positive and then realize that [TS]

00:24:03   somehow this character managed to [TS]

00:24:05   subvert the proto Wesley Crusher trope [TS]

00:24:08   which I would have thought was nylon [TS]

00:24:10   impossible so for that reason alone [TS]

00:24:13   I've got to go kitty pryde alright keep [TS]

00:24:15   reading moves on I jonah hex maybe [TS]

00:24:17   unkillable but he is defeatable he has [TS]

00:24:19   been sent away just like at the box [TS]

00:24:22   office [TS]

00:24:22   it's like it though don't mention just [TS]

00:24:24   rolling i did three in a row now I can [TS]

00:24:26   rest for a little bit take a break [TS]

00:24:29   Lisa our next matchup in the central [TS]

00:24:31   city region number 11 seed worthy to [TS]

00:24:35   carry the hammer of Thor beta ray bill [TS]

00:24:36   advocated by chip going against Shazam [TS]

00:24:42   you may also know him as Captain Marvel [TS]

00:24:43   advocated by Monty chip you are the low [TS]

00:24:49   seed please go ahead [TS]

00:24:51   ok I'm i'll grab that it may be kinda [TS]

00:24:55   cool to get your powers from lightning [TS]

00:24:57   but it's another thing to have the power [TS]

00:25:00   to make the Lightning beta ray bill is [TS]

00:25:03   one of the first Marvel characters able [TS]

00:25:04   to lift Thor's hammer who is not in fact [TS]

00:25:07   thorny thereby gain the same powers but [TS]

00:25:09   he's not just some warmed-over [TS]

00:25:11   second-rate Thor check this [TS]

00:25:14   he comes from a race of peaceful [TS]

00:25:16   humanoid aliens but he gave up his [TS]

00:25:19   humanoid alien entity and it was [TS]

00:25:23   transformed into a beast eale horse [TS]

00:25:26   headed half machine to defend his people [TS]

00:25:29   as they were escaping from a burning [TS]

00:25:30   galaxy full of demons so white beta ray [TS]

00:25:34   bill is the greatest hero of all time is [TS]

00:25:38   because he's a floor wax and dessert [TS]

00:25:40   topping he is the Mighty Thor and he's a [TS]

00:25:43   badass cyborg and frankly his hammer [TS]

00:25:45   looks cooler [TS]

00:25:46   alright strong points Monty Captain [TS]

00:25:50   Marvel shows is Captain Marvel now [TS]

00:25:52   officially shazam because even lawyers [TS]

00:25:53   get tired of arguing after if [TS]

00:25:55   decades that happen Marvel is a better [TS]

00:25:58   version of superman instead of being an [TS]

00:26:01   alien who learned to be good American [TS]

00:26:02   because he grew up in the wholesome [TS]

00:26:04   cornfields of small bill he's actually [TS]

00:26:06   literally a good-hearted naive child [TS]

00:26:08   named Billy who also turned into a burly [TS]

00:26:11   superhero his villains are [TS]

00:26:13   enthusiastically weird he's got a [TS]

00:26:15   monster society of evil he fights mr. [TS]

00:26:18   mind a telepathic worm who is a genius [TS]

00:26:21   plus Captain Marvel is very important in [TS]

00:26:24   comics because he's goes all the way [TS]

00:26:26   back to nineteen forty or so please [TS]

00:26:28   still doesn't have a dark side there's [TS]

00:26:30   no stupid Frank Miller reimagining of [TS]

00:26:33   this guy he's still a cheerful [TS]

00:26:36   optimistic guy who flies around and [TS]

00:26:38   punches evil in the face [TS]

00:26:40   alright thank you very very nice seep [TS]

00:26:45   what are your thoughts [TS]

00:26:47   well I'm gonna have to go beta ray bill [TS]

00:26:49   on this one for one reason and one [TS]

00:26:51   reason only as a youth growing up I [TS]

00:26:54   remember seeing the four comics and and [TS]

00:26:57   thinking it looked like the dumbest [TS]

00:26:58   thing ever you know until today and then [TS]

00:27:03   then i ran across the cover of what I [TS]

00:27:07   guess is Thor number 337 which I'm [TS]

00:27:09   looking at right here and it i it has a [TS]

00:27:13   beta ray bill on the cover in the thor [TS]

00:27:14   armor swing his hammer smashing the word [TS]

00:27:17   floor and it made me want to read or [TS]

00:27:20   comic which is something I thought could [TS]

00:27:22   never be done so its beta ray bill for [TS]

00:27:24   me [TS]

00:27:25   Phil what are your thoughts I to hate [TS]

00:27:27   Thor with every fiber of my being [TS]

00:27:29   Steve's arguments have moved me these [TS]

00:27:33   arguments don't listen to steve's [TS]

00:27:35   arguments as a general rule in life I [TS]

00:27:38   was hoping that my arguments were in [TS]

00:27:40   there somewhere [TS]

00:27:41   uh I role for beta ray whatever his name [TS]

00:27:43   is that the double space horse [TS]

00:27:47   yes that guy he seems okay well we've [TS]

00:27:51   got gas we have we have our first upset [TS]

00:27:54   beta ray bill has defeated Captain [TS]

00:27:56   Marvel and Steve that's that's like my [TS]

00:28:00   favorite comic book cover ever to and I [TS]

00:28:01   had that same reaction which store was [TS]

00:28:03   really boring and wait a second now [TS]

00:28:04   there's a space alien with a hammer [TS]

00:28:06   I'm more interested [TS]

00:28:07   so beta ray bill and the upset moves on [TS]

00:28:10   we will move to our next round where [TS]

00:28:12   green lantern advocated by chip the [TS]

00:28:16   number three seed in the central city [TS]

00:28:17   region will be facing hawk-eye this is [TS]

00:28:21   the 14th seed Hawkeye this is younger [TS]

00:28:24   Hawkeye Kate Bishop not older Hawkeye [TS]

00:28:27   Clint Barton who will be hearing from [TS]

00:28:29   later k Bishop advocated by Dan Morgan [TS]

00:28:33   dan will you please go ahead and [TS]

00:28:36   advocate for Kate Bishop Hawkeye [TS]

00:28:37   absolutely well my respect for the Green [TS]

00:28:40   Lantern Corps is second to none but Kate [TS]

00:28:43   bishop doesn't have a magic ring she has [TS]

00:28:45   guts and clits but which is it forgets [TS]

00:28:49   but she's basically so with a person [TS]

00:28:51   with no superpowers she is essentially [TS]

00:28:54   like at one point I think the young [TS]

00:28:55   avengers try to rescue her and she [TS]

00:28:57   basically turns out to essentially help [TS]

00:28:59   rescue yourself and then the rest of the [TS]

00:29:00   young avengers like you guys are [TS]

00:29:01   terrible at this [TS]

00:29:02   not only does she like talk smack to [TS]

00:29:03   both captain america and Hawkeye for [TS]

00:29:06   basically not doing their jobs well [TS]

00:29:08   enough in terms of like training these [TS]

00:29:10   these younger heroes [TS]

00:29:12   she essentially you know basically goes [TS]

00:29:14   out her or her own takes for an [TS]

00:29:15   initiative to become a hero and earns [TS]

00:29:17   the mantle of Hawkeye in her own right [TS]

00:29:19   she's pretty much almost as good an [TS]

00:29:21   archer as clint barton she's the only [TS]

00:29:23   person who will sort of like not take [TS]

00:29:25   his crap and Mike calls him on his stuff [TS]

00:29:27   which is awesome she helps him fight [TS]

00:29:29   crime not like big like superheroes [TS]

00:29:31   necessarily that are super villains that [TS]

00:29:33   are always like trying to like destroy [TS]

00:29:34   the world but like serious crime [TS]

00:29:36   problems that affect people who live you [TS]

00:29:39   know on the streets so she's got like [TS]

00:29:42   that whole like blue-collar aspect to it [TS]

00:29:44   which is which is great i think she's [TS]

00:29:45   she's she's a pragmatic practical [TS]

00:29:48   superhero and she just super kicks ass [TS]

00:29:51   and pretty much every way and clint [TS]

00:29:52   barton even with his dog cannot keep up [TS]

00:29:55   so I say Kate Bishop all the way I got a [TS]

00:29:58   quick question before we move on so [TS]

00:30:01   she's Hawkeye and clint barton and talk [TS]

00:30:03   at the same time [TS]

00:30:04   yes they're actually they're actually [TS]

00:30:05   both hot guys Kohaku's MCR go hawkeyes [TS]

00:30:08   indeed in fact there's dialogue where [TS]

00:30:10   they will say after you Hawkeye know [TS]

00:30:12   after you Hawkeye because they say yes [TS]

00:30:15   they they were she was and she was added [TS]

00:30:17   as i am busy and then he would have [TS]

00:30:19   black as a hot guy and they take 15 [TS]

00:30:21   another both Hawkeyes and which one of [TS]

00:30:23   them is a surgeon in the Korean War uh [TS]

00:30:25   that would haha that would be Alan Alda [TS]

00:30:28   who is an eight seed in a different [TS]

00:30:31   racket i rule for Trapper John chip [TS]

00:30:35   please go ahead with your discussion of [TS]

00:30:38   green lantern ok but I'm kind of in [TS]

00:30:40   trouble here because I've got a good [TS]

00:30:41   friend who cost place at Kate Bishop so [TS]

00:30:43   apologies in advance but oh you're [TS]

00:30:46   eliminated right now [TS]

00:30:47   oh hey no continue kids India's it's [TS]

00:30:51   only open a Green Lantern Hal Jordan is [TS]

00:30:54   the greatest wish fulfillment character [TS]

00:30:56   in comics he's got a magic ring it's [TS]

00:30:58   science but come on to a ten-year-old [TS]

00:30:59   it's totally magic at that can do [TS]

00:31:02   anything as long as the weather has [TS]

00:31:04   enough willpower flight energy beam [TS]

00:31:06   space travel solid light constructs with [TS]

00:31:10   which you beat the tar out of bad guys [TS]

00:31:12   great costume too but two things for me [TS]

00:31:15   put green lantern over the top as the [TS]

00:31:17   greatest hero of all time [TS]

00:31:19   first he's a devil-may-care test pilot [TS]

00:31:22   he's a fearless thrill sick secret [TS]

00:31:25   that's a lot of fun in characterization [TS]

00:31:27   but second in contrast soon after he [TS]

00:31:29   gets the ring he finds out he was chosen [TS]

00:31:31   to be just one of 3599 other space [TS]

00:31:37   policeman in the Green Lantern Corps and [TS]

00:31:39   at its best [TS]

00:31:40   this contrasts between a loan test pilot [TS]

00:31:44   and the member of a huge police force [TS]

00:31:46   he's a complicated compelling hero and [TS]

00:31:49   he's the greatest hero of all time [TS]

00:31:51   may I ask question sure one min select [TS]

00:31:56   one of the dacian that Jason's given up [TS]

00:31:59   already and I was gonna say no but I [TS]

00:32:02   really rather hear the clouds and [TS]

00:32:03   instead of kyle rayner or jon stewart or [TS]

00:32:07   even guy what's-his-name guy gardner [TS]

00:32:11   honey hockey which is English my english [TS]

00:32:13   is green lantern what ya guys spoilers [TS]

00:32:16   spoilers in order no crab face no vest [TS]

00:32:28   and he was and he was robbed out of a [TS]

00:32:31   place on the justice league cartoon all [TS]

00:32:33   allow it right Phil what's your what's [TS]

00:32:35   your verdict then I was moved terribly [TS]

00:32:37   by the argument in favor of not crappy [TS]

00:32:43   Hawkeye k bishop [TS]

00:32:48   yes yes yes not crappy Hawkeye will also [TS]

00:32:50   accept it not crappy Hawkeye however i [TS]

00:32:55   will accept Green Lantern as presented [TS]

00:32:58   to me [TS]

00:32:59   Green Lantern moves on to the next round [TS]

00:33:01   well you don't get you don't get to say [TS]

00:33:03   that without Steve are great lateral [TS]

00:33:04   moves on to the next round Steve what do [TS]

00:33:07   you feel [TS]

00:33:08   um wow well i gotta say a a magic ring [TS]

00:33:13   has never fun on my list of [TS]

00:33:15   wish-fulfillment items that but you fool [TS]

00:33:19   it's like getting more wishes [TS]

00:33:20   I don't know I find that I find the [TS]

00:33:22   whole conceit kind of lame that said the [TS]

00:33:26   whole co hoc I thing I think that feels [TS]

00:33:28   kind of I think you know get your own [TS]

00:33:31   name woman earned that name [TS]

00:33:35   well then why didn't he is surrender his [TS]

00:33:38   name he did for a while he was learning [TS]

00:33:40   grown in donating my only son friends [TS]

00:33:42   names like you put into a ninja for a [TS]

00:33:44   while [TS]

00:33:45   well that it that even that weekend the [TS]

00:33:48   Hawkeye argument even more if I may step [TS]

00:33:50   on my interject Steve box have two eyes [TS]

00:33:54   right thank you want yes Hawks easily [TS]

00:33:57   have to i just want to be up there born [TS]

00:34:00   with two eyes right piles of the worst [TS]

00:34:03   birding podcast of every tune in for [TS]

00:34:05   Best 13 then again i can hardly fault [TS]

00:34:10   there being two hot guys when there are [TS]

00:34:12   thousands of Green Lantern's so I'm [TS]

00:34:14   going hot gay interesting so that that [TS]

00:34:17   is a split decision I it falls to me I [TS]

00:34:21   saw the Ryan Reynolds movie so hot I [TS]

00:34:23   Kate bishop moves on [TS]

00:34:25   Oh Ryan Reynolds well another upset [TS]

00:34:29   because thank you ryan reynolds wherever [TS]

00:34:31   you are is a bad bad bad bad bad movies [TS]

00:34:34   a lot to answer for dude [TS]

00:34:36   we move on to our next round number [TS]

00:34:39   seven seed ms marvel that's Kamala Khan [TS]

00:34:41   advocated by dan will be going up [TS]

00:34:44   against Conn c'mon c'mon c'mon not not [TS]

00:34:46   shiny little money right now she is the [TS]

00:34:49   12 seed in the funk division number 10 [TS]

00:34:53   the flash this is the wally west flash [TS]

00:34:57   not the more familiar Barry Allen flash [TS]

00:35:01   that will be talking to you later [TS]

00:35:02   advocated by chip chip [TS]

00:35:04   you're the underdog so please advocate [TS]

00:35:06   for Wally West as the flash [TS]

00:35:08   well uh the the previous flash the [TS]

00:35:11   Silver Age flash Barry Allen he was [TS]

00:35:12   killed off in the eighties during DC's [TS]

00:35:14   crisis on infinite earths and on one of [TS]

00:35:17   the last pages his former sidekick his [TS]

00:35:20   former sidekick kid flash Wally West he [TS]

00:35:24   was wearing a new costume instead from [TS]

00:35:25   this day on I am the flash and this is [TS]

00:35:28   one of the few times that a sidekick is [TS]

00:35:31   actually lived up to the dream of [TS]

00:35:32   succeeding his partner [TS]

00:35:35   the neat thing about Wally is that it [TS]

00:35:37   wasn't a comfortable transition he at [TS]

00:35:39   first he could only run at the speed of [TS]

00:35:41   sound and he also acted like a real jerk [TS]

00:35:44   because he had a massive inferiority [TS]

00:35:45   complex over the years though he grew [TS]

00:35:49   into the equal of his predecessor he was [TS]

00:35:51   just as fast just as noble but he hung [TS]

00:35:54   on to this sort of ADHD personality that [TS]

00:35:56   he had which makes a whole lot more [TS]

00:35:58   sense for super speedster then the bland [TS]

00:36:02   classic Barry Allen Wally West succeeded [TS]

00:36:06   the DC universe is first and only [TS]

00:36:09   genuine st. and in so doing he became [TS]

00:36:13   more interesting by far ship the [TS]

00:36:17   2-minute Time Lord muscles are working [TS]

00:36:19   really well in this one minute superhero [TS]

00:36:22   format i just want to point that out [TS]

00:36:24   dan you get to work cut out for you tell [TS]

00:36:27   us about Kamala Khan well I i guess i'm [TS]

00:36:29   drawing a theme here with the spunky [TS]

00:36:31   teenage girl heroes because Kamala Khan [TS]

00:36:33   who is from jersey city is exposed to [TS]

00:36:37   some metal via inhuman miss that makes [TS]

00:36:40   her manifest these powers where she can [TS]

00:36:42   shape-shift and she's as a big comic [TS]

00:36:45   book fan already [TS]

00:36:46   she she sort of takes it upon herself to [TS]

00:36:48   use those powers for [TS]

00:36:49   good even you know in sort of a typical [TS]

00:36:51   comic book hero away saving you know a [TS]

00:36:54   fellow classmate of hers who she doesn't [TS]

00:36:55   really like but you know was in trouble [TS]

00:36:56   and so that's what heroes do and so [TS]

00:36:59   Kamala is a among other things writes [TS]

00:37:01   fan fiction about like superheroes so [TS]

00:37:04   she's kind of all uh you know well well [TS]

00:37:06   grounded in that whole reality but she [TS]

00:37:09   also has her own struggles because as [TS]

00:37:10   sort of growing up as a [TS]

00:37:11   pakistani-american and a Muslim that [TS]

00:37:14   she's like dealing with these different [TS]

00:37:16   cultural issues you know she has like to [TS]

00:37:20   deal with her parents who are very [TS]

00:37:21   restrictive about certain things and so [TS]

00:37:22   it's hard to like sneak out and be a [TS]

00:37:23   superhero wear pants are kinda like you [TS]

00:37:25   know grounding you and stuff like that [TS]

00:37:26   so she's got this sort of traditional [TS]

00:37:28   teenage hero blends but seen through [TS]

00:37:30   sort of a different angle of the [TS]

00:37:32   American experience that we haven't [TS]

00:37:34   really experienced as much with [TS]

00:37:36   superheroes and she's also pretty [TS]

00:37:38   kick-ass she takes on the name is marvel [TS]

00:37:40   in inspiration from carol danvers who is [TS]

00:37:43   now captain marvel and decides that you [TS]

00:37:45   know she's going to make that sort of [TS]

00:37:46   hero identity her own and she has [TS]

00:37:48   awesome shape-shifting powers which [TS]

00:37:49   really are super cool right thank you [TS]

00:37:51   Dan [TS]

00:37:53   Steve what are your thoughts hmm tough [TS]

00:37:55   1i like the idea of the kind of fan [TS]

00:38:01   fiction fan girl suddenly becoming a [TS]

00:38:04   hero that's an interesting angle [TS]

00:38:06   although it sounds an awful lot like [TS]

00:38:09   Buffy the supervillains lair to me and [TS]

00:38:15   I'm surprised to hear that there is it [TS]

00:38:16   and any inhuman missed in New Jersey [TS]

00:38:18   somewhere that's that's quite quite a [TS]

00:38:21   twist please don't make me cry [TS]

00:38:24   don't talk about the inhuman magical [TS]

00:38:26   mists that turns people into non legally [TS]

00:38:28   actionable movie characters what you [TS]

00:38:30   don't care for the Terrigen mists for [TS]

00:38:32   the crystals are generated I think [TS]

00:38:34   that's totally makes complete sense our [TS]

00:38:37   cars will watch will clear this [TS]

00:38:41   courtroom [TS]

00:38:42   normal here OCD far be it from us have [TS]

00:38:44   ridiculous things happening this Comic [TS]

00:38:46   Book podcast is taking them presently [TS]

00:38:48   dirt-eater bailiff please Papa Landy [TS]

00:38:50   where the hell is my gavel [TS]

00:38:52   maybe my in madurai satisfied on the [TS]

00:38:55   other hand i also like the idea of the [TS]

00:38:57   of the the kid flash taking on the [TS]

00:39:00   mantle and sort of overcoming his own [TS]

00:39:02   personal Asperger's or ADHD or whatever [TS]

00:39:05   it is that he has in order to become a [TS]

00:39:08   better hero so this is a this is a tough [TS]

00:39:10   one [TS]

00:39:10   you've got an excellent job free of [TS]

00:39:13   restating what the two arguments were 15 [TS]

00:39:16   says you have to turn it over in my head [TS]

00:39:17   from all angles Jason I am that [TS]

00:39:19   conscientious as a judge of Heroes let [TS]

00:39:22   me roll this die here and it came up [TS]

00:39:26   flash all right Phil mr. Morgan would [TS]

00:39:30   have us believe that shape-shifting is a [TS]

00:39:32   superhero power shape-shifting is [TS]

00:39:34   cowardice sir I rule for the flash right [TS]

00:39:40   flash Wally West moves on her superpower [TS]

00:39:44   is not waffling I'm reveling in my [TS]

00:39:47   victory and yet i'm appalled by the [TS]

00:39:50   grounds for the victory [TS]

00:39:52   thank thank you chip Thank You chip I i [TS]

00:39:54   had a role for like that the other check [TS]

00:39:57   she wins too late to see my best and [TS]

00:40:02   most reliable shake hands across and [TS]

00:40:04   roll the dice in chambers they don't do [TS]

00:40:05   it like actually in front of the [TS]

00:40:07   defendant that's that's bad for I [TS]

00:40:09   v-final pairing in the first round in [TS]

00:40:12   the central city region is again a [TS]

00:40:15   battle between chip and Dan this time [TS]

00:40:17   Dan is the underdog chip is going to [TS]

00:40:19   advocate for our number-2 seed captain [TS]

00:40:21   america and dan is going to advocate for [TS]

00:40:24   our 15 seed suggested by Dan and please [TS]

00:40:29   explain who he is [TS]

00:40:30   solar man of the atom while the if you [TS]

00:40:33   don't know it's older man the atom is [TS]

00:40:35   you're really missing out [TS]

00:40:36   solar man the atom goes back to the six [TS]

00:40:39   early sixties sort of out of the the [TS]

00:40:41   fear of the nuclear age he's a scientist [TS]

00:40:44   who is exposed to obviously huge amounts [TS]

00:40:46   of radiation and become sort of a being [TS]

00:40:48   of largely of energy and power he is in [TS]

00:40:52   the valiant comics universe the most [TS]

00:40:54   powerful basically being alive including [TS]

00:40:57   at one point I believe he the universe [TS]

00:41:00   is destroyed him how many he just really [TS]

00:41:02   makes all of it because he is like he's [TS]

00:41:04   kind of like he's got like a doctor [TS]

00:41:05   manhattan bad going on but he's also [TS]

00:41:06   just like this scientist and he deals [TS]

00:41:08   with a lot of these like psychological [TS]

00:41:09   issues and how to how to be the most [TS]

00:41:11   powerful man alive because it's really [TS]

00:41:13   hard to deal with you know having a [TS]

00:41:15   normal life when your body is like [TS]

00:41:17   composed of basically a nuclear furnace [TS]

00:41:19   so he's gotta a very varied history he [TS]

00:41:23   was originally one of the gold key [TS]

00:41:24   heroes of acquired by valiant but I I [TS]

00:41:27   particularly loved his 1990 storylines [TS]

00:41:29   in the valiant comics universe where he [TS]

00:41:32   gets to meet up with a bunch of other [TS]

00:41:33   characters and has that sort of a big [TS]

00:41:36   universe a park where he has to sort of [TS]

00:41:39   remake the universe because it is [TS]

00:41:41   essentially destroyed so I know he's a [TS]

00:41:43   less popular hero and you but seed [TS]

00:41:45   pretty low but he's a he's a really cool [TS]

00:41:47   dude [TS]

00:41:48   all right chip ok I really ought to hate [TS]

00:41:53   captain america he he's the area an [TS]

00:41:56   ideal fighting against Nazis he [TS]

00:41:58   literally wraps himself in the flag he's [TS]

00:42:01   a soldier he barks out orders he's got a [TS]

00:42:03   rigid moral code and Anthony he's at the [TS]

00:42:07   pinnacle of human conditioning and how [TS]

00:42:08   did you get these powers steroids so why [TS]

00:42:13   do I think captain america is actually [TS]

00:42:15   one of the greatest superheroes of all [TS]

00:42:17   time because he does in fact have a [TS]

00:42:19   superpower he's got unmatchable idealism [TS]

00:42:23   he believes that he and his country can [TS]

00:42:25   and must do better he challenges his [TS]

00:42:27   teammates he challenges government to [TS]

00:42:29   not be expedient or the pragmatic but [TS]

00:42:31   just to do what's right [TS]

00:42:33   he's an amazing fighter in an acrobat [TS]

00:42:37   and tactician but more than that he's a [TS]

00:42:39   conscience any catch any cap and he [TS]

00:42:41   challenges the flag rather than blindly [TS]

00:42:43   following it [TS]

00:42:45   captain america i give you solar who's [TS]

00:42:48   he trying little dig at the end their [TS]

00:42:50   film what are your thoughts [TS]

00:42:52   I have always hated captain america and [TS]

00:42:55   all that he stood for [TS]

00:42:56   however i do not even remember who dan [TS]

00:43:02   was advocated god I must roll for the [TS]

00:43:13   ship them all the superheroes captain [TS]

00:43:16   america what [TS]

00:43:18   I actually don't have an inbuilt hatred [TS]

00:43:21   of Captain America I could take him or [TS]

00:43:24   give him I but chips advocacy of them [TS]

00:43:28   was superb and on that basis alone i [TS]

00:43:31   have to give it to Captain America [TS]

00:43:33   although I am intrigued by solar man of [TS]

00:43:35   the atom alright intrigue will get you [TS]

00:43:39   nowhere except a ticket home solar [TS]

00:43:42   manatee Adam is it is despatched you [TS]

00:43:45   will be sad envelope the entire [TS]

00:43:46   university was happy he he was happy to [TS]

00:43:49   just be selected our trip to Central [TS]

00:43:53   City is complete when well that's right [TS]

00:43:55   folks where one quarter of the way done [TS]

00:43:57   oh my god I'll be here all about I know [TS]

00:44:00   our one is complete [TS]

00:44:03   take a break have a sandwich yeah good [TS]

00:44:05   times [TS]

00:44:06   join us tomorrow for the gotham region [TS]

00:44:08   until then I've been Jason still and [TS]

00:44:11   this has been the incomparable superhero [TS]

00:44:14   tournament [TS]

00:44:15   oh god what are we doing [TS]